pc-specs

[high quarry]

so 12GB VRAM, 32GB RAM, thats suprising.

Playing at 1440 Epic, or Ultrawide/4k?

[sturdy zinc]

ultrawidde

[lavish mason]

Soz basically nearly 4k in pixel pushing, with ultra wide, start knocking down the pointless stats like hair quality

[high quarry]

ok, so VRAM is up a little already.

Usually its only 8-9GB though, so prob still related to a leak.

[sturdy zinc]

yeah i have tried to decrease quality it helped a bit

[high quarry]

Reducing settings would just delay it by reducing start VRAM usage.

[glad steeple]

I just tried to check with system requirements lab if i can run the game everything was green and all so I figured I could play the game.. I mean I guess it did say I technically could "run" the game.. but it's virtually almost impossible to play with.. and I checked online so apparently I need to upgrade basically most of my hardware to at least be able to play it decently..

[sturdy zinc]

will probably just have to wait for the patch

[lavish mason]

It's not your hardware, it's the game

[high quarry]

I could get usage to 12GB immedatly at a settlement, but only using my Insane preset going way above Epic

[glad steeple]

I have 8 gb vram and intel i5-7600k 16 gb ram

[lost owl]

Yeah, gering tight there. Maybe low to Medium settings will work. Otherwise Upgrade your gpu and your ram (to 32gb)
You could try and take the risk of a bottleneck until you upgrade your cpu / board.

[high quarry]

Even at lower settings, 1080 upscaled I was seeing > 8GB in Rostok: https://i.imgur.com/SKlTiT4.jpeg

and 24GB system RAM (but I did have discord/sharex/visual studio open I think)

[lost owl]

With everything opened like web browser and discord I will reach around 20GB RAM Usage, with 32GB DDR5

[glad steeple]

honestly I don't really care much for all newer video games.. this is probably the only game that I have love for that I would really want to play myself.. just a big fan of the franchise or something similar like fallout perhaps.. everything else I don't really care for much so really and truly bummed out in every sense of the word.

[high quarry]

I have never seen a leak/massive slowdown. But thats with AMD, 16GB VRAM and 48GB RAM.

[lavish mason]

48 gig of ram is a wrongthink number for ram and you should be ashamed!

I know it's the new hotness but absolutely disgusting!

[lavish mason]

Fallout is similar to stalker?

M8

[azure ore]

how does one find b die ram in 2024

[glad steeple]

Well, sort of. although I wish it had a companion system or joining factions in stalker 2

[coarse linden]

Buying used. That stuff went EOL in 2019

[glad steeple]

The world is big but hardly any real interaction happening between factions

[azure ore]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/w3FKHx/gskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl16-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtznc

[coarse linden]

Well guess that answers your question ;P

[sleek stream]

Fallout = blegh

[high quarry]

64GB was overkill, and 32 was already getting low for my use

[fleet talon]

48gb of ram never heard that 1

[tall grail]

Did they fix crashes occuring with frame gen?

[high quarry]

2x24 became more common when Zen 4 launched

[coarse linden]

But traditions... From 32 you go to 64. None of this heretical new crap

[high quarry]

🚫

[shut elbow]

Booo! Ram jumpscare
12gb - 24gb - 48gb - 96gb

[coarse linden]

This heresy!

[high quarry]

12 and 24 made sense on those triple channel configs

[coarse linden]

Never made sense

But drawbacks of those nonbinary rams are that you cant really mix those with binary ram

Well "drawbacks" who gives a f. Just need to remember look for same kind when feeling like adding more

[high quarry]

The term is non-binary memory. Because there is no such limitation. Its all about density and fitting them on a dimm.

Now what would be weird, but possible, its 2x24 + 2x8 in a 4 dimms for 64 instead of 2x32 or 4x16 😄

as long as you dont mix a binary and non-binary in the same channel I think

[coarse linden]

Honestly no clue if that would work or disable shenanigans it needs. Im just a DDR4 pleb

[high quarry]

https://i.imgur.com/OdoXYxq.png from Kingston

[coarse linden]

Now does overclockable include XMP and EXPO profiles since technically those are overclocked lol

[high quarry]

yep

but, those are their internal terms for their product stacks 🙂

It just means kingston will only support it officially if its JEDEC

[coarse linden]

Tbh now im curious what actually is "stock speed" for DDR5's in general

[high quarry]

as in the lowest they spec?

[lavish mason]

I shall pray for you

[coarse linden]

As in what they run out of the box without EXPO/XMP

[high quarry]

well, they spec higher speeds too, but at specific timings..

I think all the way up to 8800 now, but its something like CL62

[coarse linden]

I mean DDR4 basically runs 1200 out of the box without profile

[high quarry]

actually I think the timings are a range, i.e 62-78

but by spec, DDR5 should go all the way down to 3200, with most mainstream desktop motherboards giving options down to 4000-4800

This says 3200 spec is CL22 🙂

https://i.imgur.com/PDKFJG4.png

[coarse linden]

I still cant get use to those CAS latency numbers lol

Nor will i waste time on thinking about those until its time to upgrade. Then it will matter

[high quarry]

and thats why nobody buys as JDEC spec except datacenters, but even those are sometimes slightly faster than spec.

Its why you see kits like 5600 CL38
Nobody really considers them seriously, but they are faster than JEDEC spec.

[coarse linden]

Doesnt look as sexy as 8000

Ill just look what highest speed Ryzen runs infinity fabric at 1:1 and look that kind of ram since im too old for manual ram overclocks

[shut elbow]

Ah those first ddr5 memory kits
4800mhz cl64 xd

[coarse linden]

And cost GPU worth lol

[high quarry]

My current memory vs JDEC
https://i.imgur.com/Xk7ISYS.png

[shut elbow]

Yea, cost at launch was ridiculous and it performed way worse than medicore ddr4

[coarse linden]

Early adopter tax

[high quarry]

Now you can get a cheap 6000 36-44-44 for $90, and its not really considered that fast

[azure ore]

is this ram kit decent

G.Skill Trident Z Neo

[high quarry]

Generally the Neo is fair timings tuned for AMD EXPO.

[coarse linden]

Think hes talking about B die DDR4

[hard arrow]

get out of here stalker

[high quarry]

There is a neo 3600 CL14 kit, but its easier to find unicorn excrement for cheaper.

[shut elbow]

Do u have slightest idea how little it narrows it down?

[coarse linden]

Samsung quit making those B dies does not help lol

[shut elbow]

M dies r more stable in ddr5*
So for amd its better to buy m die and lower timings

[high quarry]

Yeh, this one: F4-3600C14D-32GTZN

[coarse linden]

But i think hunting for B die is waste of effort unless you like to toy with manual overclocking

Few fps here or there for inflated price doesnt sound good deal to me

[shut elbow]

There is no reason to hunt for b die if u have amd, m dies r more stable with lower timings and ram its not that important if u have intel.
So yes, thats just waste of money

[high quarry]

So generally, just go for a 3600 16-19-19-36 or 16-19-19-39 for < $100

i.e a vengeance lpx or that other gskill neo

You can still add 0.05v for 1.4 and decrease their timings a bit. or 1.45 and go for CL14

There is this premise that you have to buy EXPO/XMP and stick to it, the tech youtubers dont help in this case. Those profile are just a guide to what the manufacturer has validated them to, not what they can run. Run them at whatever they are capable of...

[coarse linden]

Tech youtubers pff

[high quarry]

EXPO/XMP is a convenience/timer saver, and slight bit of confidence of capability, thats it.

[shut elbow]

Most people do not have patience to manually oc a ram.

[coarse linden]

Can be quite pain in the rear

[high quarry]

Exactly, most people wont to choose 1 setting and leave it.

[azure ore]

so for my rizen 7 5800x3d going for the G.Skill Trident Z Neo would be the best option

[high quarry]

The CL16 one, sure. it doesnt matter all too much with an x3D, but tuned timings will help your 1% lows.

[shut elbow]

Paste a link to exact ram u want

[azure ore]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07WTS8T2W?tag=pcp0f-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[high quarry]

I assume he is talking about these https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w3FKHx/gskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl16-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtznc

yeh, exact match.

[shut elbow]

This time assumption was correct but many times it was some wild mismatch so i prefer to ask xd

Yes, this is just good ddr4 ram. Nothing spectacular, just solid one.

[high quarry]

and if you want to speed it up a bit for free, you can just increase the voltage a little and follow one of Buildzoids timing guides

just be careful of b-die specific ones vs hynix etc. People usually use something called Typhoon burner to find which memory chips a kit uses.

[coarse linden]

Or extra lazy there is that tool 1usmus made lol

[high quarry]

Yeh, but I found that to be hit or miss, even with b-die

[coarse linden]

Pretty much

[sturdy zinc]

@high quarry @lavish mason i figuret it out frame generation was what was causing it

[high quarry]

nvidia framegen?

[sturdy zinc]

yepp

[high quarry]

FSR one seems more stable, but also costs more VRAM.

[vast dew]

Guys, I have just bought RTX 4060ti 8gb (instead of 3060 12gb), but I still get drop to 30-40fps in the firts stalker's camp with using QDLSS and FG. There are 70fps avg in an open area, but it also drops to 40 fps with dlss and fg. I have CPU Ryzen 5600g and 16 RAM. On Youtube I saw some tests with the same configuration and fps were around 100. What's the problem?

[lavish mason]

Niiiice work man

[lavish mason]

You just bought an 8gig card? Still able to return it?

[high quarry]

You downgraded your VRAM?

[vast dew]

Yes, but 1080p doesn't need more. Tests show that 8gb is more than enough

[lavish mason]

But it isn't

[high quarry]

except in this game, and half a dozen others..

and what about in 2025-2028?

[lavish mason]

It should be but it's 2024and the enshittification of software performance continues unabated

[vast dew]

I mentioned, that on Youtube a man had same config and normal fps

[high quarry]

Doesnt matter, its a specific scenario, there hoardes of people having issues with 8GB VRAM.

[vast dew]

idk, if 5060 won't be 12 gb

[lavish mason]

But a 1080ti usedoff eBay

Saves money, has 11gig of ram, will perform similar or better than a 4060

[high quarry]

Here is a 1080p, FSR using 9GB VRAM 🙂 https://i.imgur.com/nvEDKAU.jpeg

[vast dew]

However, I asked about difference between YT guy and my PC. I think there is a problem with my PC and it is not about VRAM

[lavish mason]

You haven't even given us a source for the youtuber

[high quarry]

Very well could be, but 8GB VRAM is an issue in 2024, its not an oppinion.

[vast dew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkuLuf77Mmw&t=255s

[lavish mason]

Ryzen 5600

[vast dew]

I can't afford to buy better right now

[lavish mason]

You've got a 5600g. Iirc they really aren't the same. Non X 5600 is what I have and it's ok enough, g iirc was slower and has on board graphics too

[high quarry]

I am playing right now at 9.1GB VRAM usage

[plucky quail]

Nvidia Giving 5060 8GB is damage for everybody that gonna buy it

[lavish mason]

Yeah g card has half the L3 cache and does t support pcie 4.0. .

But really buying 8gig cards in 24 is no bueno. Yeah y had plenty of options

[high quarry]

but they need to save that $10 for the 8GB vs 12GB 🙂

[lavish mason]

And yet people still buy this trash.

[plucky quail]

Next gen should be 5060 12GB, 5070 16GB, 5080 24GB

[lavish mason]

But Nvidia.peole buy this stuff regardless. Even if there was a cheaper better performing amd card with more ram, people would buy the Nvidia failcards

[high quarry]

5080 20GB would be fine

[lavish mason]

It'll be 16 gig

[plucky quail]

Nah FR some games Pull more than 16GB and if the future told us its that 24 for a 1200$ should be in at such performance.

[lavish mason]

Imagine paying 1200 for not even the full GPU chip. People, buck your ideas up or this will never get better for us

[high quarry]

thats the thing, it shouldnt be $1200..

[plucky quail]

The 5090 if report are true is gonna be MSRP 2K

[high quarry]

for a mid size GPU... thats $800 adjusted for inflation (compared to something like 1080)

[lavish mason]

Disgusting

[high quarry]

its a 1.5x price increase

[lavish mason]

And it's not like wages have kept up with inflation either. So in practice it's much larger increase

Wonder if GPUs are included in the CPI calc for inflation , ha

[plucky quail]

If the prices stayed like the GPUs 1080 the currend would only cost 650$

[high quarry]

lets say optimistacally wages kept up at half rate, thats a 1.7x price increase on XX80 GPUs

[lavish mason]

I was happy to pay 650 for my 6900xt . Still smashes now, and was half price from it's abhorrent RRP. Not a bargain but where it should be

[high quarry]

1080 was march 2016, $600 from then to now is $800 by inflation

[tawny thicket]

the 5600G's CPU is the same as the 5500

[lavish mason]

Knock know. It's Nvidia. Bend over

[plucky quail]

Wasint it 500$?

[lavish mason]

Yeah one of the differences in spec for sure between the poster and the tuber

[high quarry]

1080 launched at 599

[lavish mason]

Gtx970 was my last Nvidia card, was 330 dollars at launch

[tawny thicket]

for me (RX6600 + R5 5600G) i get 40-50 FPS in zallisia (first settlement) when CPU limited (without FG)

[lavish mason]

Imagine paying £400 for a 5070

[high quarry]

980->1080 price increase was $40 (after inflation)

[lavish mason]

TBF 1080 was also an accidental performance uplift from Nvidia generationally. Never to be repeated. They left profit on the table and Jensen was sad

[vast dew]

what do you have with FG?

[high quarry]

3080 was where they didnt increase price (actually cheaper launch after inflation)

[lavish mason]

Was getting massively discounted silicon from Samsung so that'll be why. Tsmc 40 series soon sorted that out

[tawny thicket]

70-80 or 60 or so once the memory leaks start having an effect

[high quarry]

Then 4080 was a +$400 price increase over 3080, after inflation.

[lavish mason]

Tsmc don't play

Consumers do pay

[high quarry]

The manufacturing costs get passed to the customer 4x to keep the spreadsheet and investors happy.

[vast dew]

so it means that the problem in CPU. But why is it so significantly. I think the difference between 5600 and 5600g is minimum

[high quarry]

So if it costs another $50 per chip, expect +$200 for a $1400 5080

[lavish mason]

Plus whatever else they wanna add on top,as their halo prodict isn't being contested this gen

[high quarry]

plus the extra cost of beefier 3rd part cards, like strix etc

That's another $100-150

Wuldnt be surprised to see $1500 5080's on launch

[tawny thicket]

the difference between the 5600 and 5600 G is the G has half the cache (32 to 16Mb)

[misty hearth]

anyone recommend msi amd mb's?

[tawny thicket]

dependo

[vast dew]

and fps strongly depends on cahce?

[bitter crag]

Hey guys, so with mostly medium settings and FSR turned on I get around 100fps with a 1080ti and a ryzen 7 5800x3d, but the input lag is unbearable, any way to reduce input lag by any chance?

[high quarry]

cache on the CPU lets it avoid a whole RAM lookup cycle, cache is VERY fast, RAM is relatively slow. its why x3D CPUs are king in gaming.

[tawny thicket]

depends but it always matters to some degree. But i think there's something wrong with your system, even though we have the same CPU i get like 2X perf

[pseudo blade]

what is most vram demanding setting? i really want to play in 4k but in some places it just drop from 60 to 5 fps

[high quarry]

GI, Reflections, Textures, Post Processing

[tawny thicket]

FSR FG right?

[bitter crag]

yessir

[vast dew]

I think the same way, thx

[high quarry]

I have global illumination on Insane atm, at 9.7GB VRAM 🙂

[lavish mason]

Id honestly hold off any upgrades for this game specifically, let them work on some optimisation and the bugs. See where it stands end of Jan

[tawny thicket]

try these: http://pastie.org/p/49Z9SlC814QPtRSwg5CgPc they go into your input.INI file

[vast dew]

You're right, but I thought they fix it soon after release and it doesn't happened

[lavish mason]

Sweet summer child.

Does suck though. I wish I forgot about the launch for 6 months

[misty hearth]

id like to get a new mb and amd cpu, though looking for a mb has been pretty hard and to top that a matx one.

[lavish mason]

It's a reference from ASOIAF, regarding the innocence and hope of youth Vs the hard reality of a veteran

[tawny thicket]

what the ****, did you ping the wrong comment by accident?

[lavish mason]

No, just saw your reacts and replied to your last post, as reply to reacts isn't a thing

[bitter crag]

well input lag is still too much lol, I guess until they optimize the game i'll bear with it lol, I dont have money to upgrade my gpu

[tawny thicket]

i see

[lavish mason]

It's from game of thrones m8

[tawny thicket]

which socket?

[misty hearth]

i havnt decited what cpu id like.

[tawny thicket]

i think you should start there

[high quarry]

I have settings on a wild mix of Insane, Ultra, Epic, High, Medium and Potato 😄

Its 30-50 fps faster then Epic:

https://i.imgur.com/fVRAaRz.jpeg

High VRAM usage, good lighting though, and very playable fps

[pseudo blade]

i need to add 8GB of vram, anyone good at soldering?

[high quarry]

Indoors: https://i.imgur.com/wCNlefc.jpeg

[misty hearth]

for comparison im currently rocking a 12th Gen i7 12700k, any recommendations? the mb i have MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI DDR4, so you think i should stick with that link you sent?

[jolly zinc]

I cant launch the game anymore crashing at shader compilation

Was able to play for 6 hours yesterday without issues

[errant aspen]

I got half way through the game and my storage box caused my game to crash, thought I'll just power through without my inventory, nearly at the end of the game and now going to a vendor to sell is causing me to crash also. Game is literally falling apart as I get to the end.

[lavish mason]

You jest but I watched a vid where someone did just that to an Nvidia GPU

I suspect it might slightly jeprodise the warranty though

[raw abyss]

Guys how common are major fps drops for you? Whenever in a location like a town or some base where there's plenty of npcs my fps randomly go down to like 8-20 and just stay there for few good minutes. Has anyone found some workaround?

[tawny thicket]

for you it might be a better deal to go for a 14/13600K/KF/F (because you are already on a LGA 1700 mobo) but you would need to buy new and update BIOS

[errant aspen]

Have you tried the top mods from nexus for optimisation? They have helped me.

[raw abyss]

yeah I use S2OptimizedTweaks

[tawny thicket]

yes its called:RTX 4090 1080P DLSS UP minimum settings

[broken sage]

Because of the NPCs in towns, its also very CPU heavy as well

[misty hearth]

lemme say, you think upgrading from ddr4 to 5 is worth?

[hard juniper]

it's common, most you can do is try optimisation mods

[raw abyss]

no wonder my poor 3070 can't handle 1440p then lol

[broken sage]

I have a 3070ti and am in the same boat lol

[raw abyss]

Alright, was worried I'm in some small minority that is experiencing this issue. Hope they'll fix it then

[pseudo blade]

3070ti also, can play in 4k until i go in npc areas

[broken sage]

Natively at what fps?

[tawny thicket]

#8gb of VRAM

[raw abyss]

Does it also drop FPS for you whenever you're in a cutscene?

[raw abyss]

Does it actually work better if you have more vram? Or is the issue still there but just less often?

[tawny thicket]

i dont know of the top of my head

[pseudo blade]

dlls balance, even quality.. 60-70 fps. But in npc areas its 4fps

[broken sage]

Without dlss though, natively

[pseudo blade]

"cutscenes" are hell for me, sometimes i just change res in windows to 1080 to go through 😄

[raw abyss]

Yeah half of my cutscenes are in 10-20fps and other half in like 40. Don't remember a single one being in 60
Glad to know I'm not alone with this issue

[high quarry]

cutscenes up the settings automatically, especially things like Hair and DOF

[errant aspen]

Apparently systems with 12gb vram and high end cpus are having less issues

[misty hearth]

all good, thank you for the mb suggestions anyways.

[tawny thicket]

take a look at this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YESz_XA2kKc and decide if you think its worth

[pseudo blade]

i dont mind if it drops to 30fps, but the 4fps is really bad

[raw abyss]

same I can live with 30fps from time to time especially when FSR is on and I get basically double of it (I know half of them are fake frames without input), but 4fps is just way too low lol

[errant aspen]

Honestly, if you're having issues with the game early on, the problems get worse as you go on, I highly recommend waiting for more patches. I've enjoyed the game, but it's been very frustrating and stressful also.

[raw abyss]

Has GSC stated anything regarding plans to fix this issue? Or have they been silent on it?

[errant aspen]

They are aware of all the issues and trying to sort the biggest ones first

[high quarry]

Try a mix of Low, Very Low and Potato (for things you dont care about)

[raw abyss]

Yeah I'm almost in P||ripya||t and it's been a complete mess ever since I||nstitut||e

[raw abyss]

Just wonder if this issue has any priority for them. Hard to specify what the biggest one is to them 😅

[soft stump]

i am about 4h remaining for story missions and the game is unplayable because every 5-10mins it random crashes ue errors

[hard juniper]

just stability and bug fixes for now, performance will probably be bad for a few months, if it ever gets good at all

[lavish mason]

See "ask gsc" channel above

[misty hearth]

thanks 👍

[raw abyss]

They keep mentioning they're working on performance but this statement is so broad it could mean plathera of things so I just wonder how high of a priority this major fps drop is to them

[errant aspen]

Yeah you can also report issues via their website and you'll open up a support ticket with them, follow the email instructions and provide everything they wanna see.

[raw abyss]

Already have and they just told me to check things such as game settings or update my drivers LOL

[lavish mason]

Dude their studio keeps getting its power switched off due to Russia bombing the nations power infrastructure . Give them some slack

[pseudo blade]

are they not in prague?

[raw abyss]

They could have postponed the release or at least let us know what the state of the game is

[misty hearth]

my main concern is when a-life drops. im really hoping performance doesnt take a drop

[raw abyss]

Half of them is in Prague

[raw abyss]

They stated already that they had to postpone a-life due to performance issues so you can only imagine what it will be like 😅
Just wish they told us that beforehand

[pseudo blade]

im gonna make a sign with #8GB card is not dead and go there xD

[lavish mason]

I don't think they could contractually once Microsoft gave them the funding to finish. Sucks i agree.

We shoulda held off if we wanted it to run smoothly, by just reading release reviews. Those of us that are happy anyway to support them even with a slightly broken releas did. They get more leeway than most Dev studios due to the current situation, for me.

Embrace the jank, it's tradition!

[misty hearth]

if it drops and performance isnt great, and even with mods too. i dunno if itll work, love this game but gsc needs a miracle for this to work

[high quarry]

Here is 1080, FSR Q
https://i.imgur.com/v3AqNV3.jpeg
On these settings:
https://i.imgur.com/7I9tvp8.png

[raw abyss]

Kinda my point, if it took them years to get the game in current state then few patches won't fix the major issues

[errant aspen]

That's when you send them your crash data and then when they send you the next set of options to try, you tell them that you tried that and get more specific. I ended up sending my entire save folder to them to check. Tho in the end they said they were aware of the issue and to just keep updating the game when it's available, as well as graphics drivers...

[lavish mason]

They did an interview last week talking about the lead up to release and the issues they got last minute

Presumably big part of this is making it run on an Xbox and ps5, combined with poor QA and a thousand other issues, some out of their hands

[errant aspen]

Also, the other stalker games never got fully smoothed out, tho I think this one will be different. If you're a true stalker fan, you should have been prepared for this.

[lavish mason]

Not that growing the audience to new players is bad

[raw abyss]

Yeah I'm not sure who is responsible for QA (they probably offshored it to some other company) but whoever it is they did piss poor job. So many quests are broken and bugs are prevalent and easy to replicate. I'm sure it's not a case of GSC ignoring it as quests such as On the Edge were patched pretty quickly after we players notified them of it. So it seems like as if QA didn't notify them at all

[misty hearth]

heres hoping mods will work it out, though i dont want that to be the case. mods can only do so much

[errant aspen]

Not at all, it's good they are expanding. Just hope they can balance their dreams with the demand.

[hard juniper]

i agree, but at the same time it's getting ridiculous how many new games are being released with absolutely piss poor performance. You'd think we would've moved away from how things were 15 years ago

[lavish mason]

Hi 5s all round, chaps. Good vibrations

[spare coral]

"Open the game as Administrator" 😭

[soft stump]

for me mods made it worse

[raw abyss]

I don't think the mentality of "previous games were buggy so it's justifiable that the new one is as well" is a good way of thinking. It's literally what led to Bethesda being stuck in time regarding their game design

[errant aspen]

Yeah it's a sorry state of the gaming industry, at least we have Capcom though with their incredible remakes. 🥂

[lavish mason]

Bebethesda is the mehest of meh game developers

[hard juniper]

it's often not QA's fault, yet they get all the hate from players. Finding and reporting bugs is the easiest part of the process. Odds are gsc just didn't have the time to fix them, likely due to other priorities

[errant aspen]

It's not good, overall. But it's to be expected as stalker is such a huge project from day 1.

[misty hearth]

lets just wait and see if these "blueprints" will help. whenever that drops lets hope its soon

[lavish mason]

Todd lying bstrd Howard a d his terrible game engines

[errant aspen]

I have total faith in GSC. It will get there in the end, this means everything to them.

[spare coral]

Mods helped at first but after the updates i think they dont work at all anymore (talking the engine.ini files) or the performance of the game got worse

[soft stump]

tbh i like the game as it is, but random crashes of ue5 is annoying af, im struggling to finish it

[high quarry]

renderer settings still all work

[errant aspen]

UE5 is the consistent issue with games. When that gets stable, then games will start coming out in a better shape.

[high quarry]

All those nexus mods change as much things as possible in the hope something sticks. Half of it is placebo.

[raw abyss]

I do hope they will fix it. There's always a chance they'll collect the money and move on.
I had hope in so many studios before and it's exactly what happened. Looking at you Bannerlord
I pray that GSC will prove me wrong as it does indeed feel more like a passion project.

[spare coral]

Yeah i use the one aproved for grok now that changes only like 3 lines

[errant aspen]

Nah, even with their old games they supported modding as much as possible to get extra hands on deck with limited resources. GSC are no scam lords.

[misty hearth]

yeah crashes are quite random for everyone, ive only had a few. Even with eu5 being jank, im sure the devs will get it sorted

[raw abyss]

Don't know how much of an old crew is still behind the wheel though. Hope they'll prove my scepticism wrong

Also is there any roadmap planned to be released?

[spare coral]

They said they will release one in december so yeah

[raw abyss]

Patch 1.0.4 - Adding battlepass and lootboxes 🔥 💯

[lavish mason]

Battle royale mode and hats coming in 1.0.5

[spare coral]

Lol tbf when they release the pvp mode they could also add a battlepass for skins and shi like that

[hard juniper]

microtransactions when

[tribal cosmos]

no

[hard juniper]

i want to buy gun skins for exorbitant amounts of money

[lavish mason]

Give me horse armour or give me death

[errant aspen]

Give me them sweet Nicki Minaj skins boyeeeeee

[tawny thicket]

what exactly is the progression block|| at the defend zallishsia mission||?

[errant aspen]

For me that is when my storage crate started to crash my game, it was after that event and when I left the area, you get some Comms about it and then I saved, then when I went back my storage box would crash my game and has done ever since.

[tawny thicket]

AND THE GAME HAS DECIDED TO TUN OUT OF VRAM even though if IT WANTED TO it could use 2 more GIGs of VRAM but i guess it wont because of UE's STUPIDITY

[high quarry]

I am mostly at 9GB now

Actually bang on 9.0 atm https://i.imgur.com/vINNKJj.jpeg

[west fractal]

Yeah UE5 rly sucks ass in performance. In other engines you can turn off Raytracing to save VRAM, in UE5 Lumen is baked in and eats VRAM in every scenario.

[tawny thicket]

that wouldnt be so bad IF ONLY epic decided to let the GPU DRIVER handle swapping into RAM AND if UE didnt limit its dGPU VRAM usage to 80%

[west fractal]

If you reach the VRAM limit it uses RAM, thats were peoples FPS get shredded, no? The problem is that RAM is slower than VRAM. I dont think that gets better if the driver handles this.

[green heart]

Ah sounds like I may need to lower my settings

[old forge]

Any method to keep it below 8gb VRAM?

[high quarry]

so is zalissya just bugged forver with those phantom shots and nobody there, can I not use it as a base?

[pseudo blade]

not forever, in like 10 minutes you will hear message through radio

[high quarry]

10 mins? its been 10 hours

[pseudo blade]

just go away xD

[high quarry]

ive been all over the map since

[pseudo blade]

thats some advanced bug

[high quarry]

im just running through it for the 4th time on storyline and wondering

I see someone in THAT building through the window:

https://i.imgur.com/8vvb41P.jpeg

Ghost through the door, they are all piled up going nuts:
https://i.imgur.com/vp3qrbT.jpeg

[acoustic raven]

I've got the same thing. Managed to pass saving the town but every time i go back there, there is an invisible wall of gunfire at the gate

[high quarry]

oops, there is no collision on some of the floors.. https://i.imgur.com/A67QRSE.jpeg

[acoustic raven]

Yeah don't try that when you by the safe box 😄

[high quarry]

Gonna try:
XStartQuestNodeBySID E07_SQ01_Spawn_MonoWave1_Squad

that spawned the monolith there at least

[acoustic raven]

I get an Emission in Rostok and it maxes out my 32gbs of ram and crashes. Nothing i can do, Anyone got a fix?

[high quarry]

I moved away, and everyone came out, works

@acoustic raven So you need to enable the console, and do:
XStartQuestNodeBySID E07_SQ01_Spawn_MonoWave1_Squad

[cursive fossil]

fps limmit to 60 frame gen off

[acoustic raven]

Oh i've completed the quest mate its no worries to me. Thanks tho

[pseudo blade]

isnt the vram leak due to npc spawning under the ground? "we created some bugs not long ago before release with NPCs spawning in the air and dropping back to the bottom. They should actually spawn in the terrain. Why it happened, I don’t know! And also we had some bugs with AI behavior." source: https://www.ign.com/articles/stalker-2-dev-gsc-game-world-explains-for-the-first-time-what-went-wrong-with-a-life-20-and-why-it-was-removed-from-the-games-description-on-steam

is there a way to watch spawned entities?

[acoustic raven]

Oh that makes sense. I will give it a try next time i'm on

[errant aspen]

Lower texture and resolution.

[cursive fossil]

Jup. I am playing my 4060 full hd on high withouth frame gen and 60fps limit and getting stable 60 fps. no lags at all, even if there is lots of nps in rostok and emission.

[fleet talon]

whats this app to get the fps overlay

[errant aspen]

MSI Afterburner / RivaTuner

[pseudo blade]

on fullhd runs good. but who have fullhd monitor in 2024?

[spare coral]

Me

[fleet talon]

i dunno how to set thisd thing up, but im getting solid 150fps on my 7900xtx if anyone wants to copy my setup
https://imgur.com/a/Z2uLLdo

[high quarry]

Someone was asking about lower VRAM usage, here is 6.5GB in Zalissya https://i.imgur.com/DtTxqjj.jpeg

I ran to all 4 entrances and did 2 passes of the traders.
Peaked at 7.3GB
Settled at 6.6GB

https://i.imgur.com/NFzeEGp.jpeg

Get it here:
https://gist.github.com/ColesyM/40ac817dd1508e44b8de9779edbc8c72

After sleeping, and sunlight: 7GB
https://i.imgur.com/D1Fb88J.jpeg

[fleet talon]

this a weird one... after stal;ker crashes, my CPU goes so so hot,

[high quarry]

Native 1080 vs FSR Balanced is about +0.15GB, Going to 1440 is about +0.85GB

[pseudo blade]

so im in Malachite right now. 4k res. 50fps, but lighting is little bit weir, maybe it will load

[high quarry]

GI is based on EPIC, but lower probe cache res and density to lower VRAM usage

Same with shadows, High, but half the res

[spare coral]

Have you tried loading a save in the settlement? Some people say the vram peaks after loading a save in settlements

[high quarry]

I did 1 quick load

[pseudo blade]

looking good so far, no frame drops due to full vram https://www.2i.cz/images/2024/12/08/20241208184002_1.jpg

[high quarry]

Put VRAM on overlay?

[flint mulch]

I have 3 friends with the same problem, can’t even play to begin with.

[high quarry]

Load one of the overlays in RTSS:
https://i.imgur.com/6JcckAr.png

[pseudo blade]

thats the MEM value isnt it?

[high quarry]

%GPU1 memory usage%

[pseudo blade]

i dont know where to put this, but i have activated GPU dedicated memory usage

[high quarry]

open RTSS,
Setup, Plugins, Tick OverlayEditor
Double click OverlayEditor
Load one of the profiles, or add a label with %GPU1 memory usage%
Close Editor and Save.

[pseudo blade]

can you send me the layout so i can load it up? I cant figure it out

[high quarry]

They are all included in the RTSS install
C:\Program Files (x86)\RivaTuner Statistics Server\Plugins\Client\Overlays

[pseudo blade]

yes i see them

[pseudo blade]

@high quarry 70fps outside, but enviroment looks like its frosted xD

https://www.2i.cz/images/2024/12/08/20241208192333_1.jpg https://www.2i.cz/images/2024/12/08/20241208192611_1.jpg

reflections of sky in buildings in water https://www.2i.cz/images/2024/12/08/20241208192921_1.jpg

[sinful radish]

It looks great man. If you want more foilage turn up the view distance I believe. If that doesnt fix it then its the foilage setting.

[sinful radish]

oof this doesnt look great tho. Im guessing the water reflections is based on the reflections graphic settings. Mine is on medium. I use medium or low reflections in most games so that I dont get blinded by my own flash light just looking at a wall lol. Or it makes it so not everything has been covered in a shiny coat of clear coat. Medium seems to just make the metal objects shine slightly as they do in real life. If that doesnt fix the weird reflexions let me know!

[royal parrot]

Thank you, this fixed it for me! At Rostok I was crashing every single time after an emission ends, and I have not even found the weird bolt yet so I know its not that issue.

[drowsy lance]

how is this still an issue, how do devs not try to run their games on different machines, like 20% of pc owners can only run those types of specs bruh.

[sinful radish]

Most people are getting the game to run fine on their native resolutions using some medium settings but mostly high and epic.

[sinful radish]

essentially, if you were unable to run cyberpunk at max settings and had to use medium on the most taxing settings; you will not be able to run epic settings on stalker 2. Shocker.

[drowsy lance]

i can run ultra rtx medium at 70 fps

stalker 2 always just tanks to 30 even on low in random areas of the map

[late ferry]

manwithfoot has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[pseudo blade]

Richter doing his thing again with 5fps.. look at him smiling https://www.2i.cz/images/2024/12/08/20241208203932_1.jpg whats weird is the gpu usage is 100% and PWR only 140W.. normaly pwr is 270W

[glass vault]

if you are looking at the minumum spec beinga 1060 that is a almost 10 yr old card. it shouldn't be hard to play at 30fps but for the 60fps limit it is higher requirement than i would like

[sinful radish]

I have optimized settings guys, message me ill dm them. The bot is freaking out on me right now.

[high quarry]

Yep, this is the foliage, usually tree distance

[glass vault]

i don't think anyone has gotten above 80fps without frame gen. even when i went to 1440p from 4k the fps didn't change much

[high quarry]

You can, but you have to either go low res or tank the settings.

then with frame gen its 170-220

[sinful radish]

I dont recommend turning off fsr fram gen. I dont recommend using dlss frame gen since too many people are having issues with it.

[glass vault]

my point being having a high end gpu right now doesn't give a big advantage in its current state

[high quarry]

i.e Rostok bar at 1080p with some lower settings; https://i.imgur.com/SKlTiT4.jpeg

[sinful radish]

when did I partake in that point lol Earlier I said most people are getting this game to run fine.

[pseudo blade]

look at mine rostok bar 😄 https://www.2i.cz/images/2024/12/08/20241208203932_1.jpg

[glass vault]

didn't say most people can't run it. we just are all on the same playing field it seems

[high quarry]

😄

https://i.imgur.com/nvEDKAU.jpeg

[sinful radish]

wtf are you replying to me for then. I never said anything about gpu's

[glass vault]

boredom i guess idk

[high quarry]

The flashlight is so bad for lighting. You spend all that GPU time to get low fps, and then wipeout all the global illumination with a warm overcurved directional light.

[sinful radish]

flashlight bad https://ibb.co/g72LzrB Im drunk in this screenshot hence why the colors look better and hes crooked

frog good tho https://ibb.co/8gFyCTp

[high quarry]

static directional lights in the scene arent too bad. Yes they overpower the lumen again, but they blend much better because that is designed to blend together: https://i.imgur.com/oDstw3h.jpeg

but this is why we are only getting 60-90 fps, and why UE5 relies on lumen:

https://i.imgur.com/jI8qWPR.jpeg

[glass vault]

one hardware ray tracing we should get better fps

[sinful radish]

okay you showed a screen shot with lighting coming from a nearby lamp. Dude that lamp is probably 1/3 of the power of a miltary grade flashlight or headlamp. Typically 1000 lumens. Its going to completely white out anything from afternoon to morning. Also the lamp shows a soft yellow. Tactical lights are blinding led white. They arnt meant for scenic lighting of your living room. They are meant to literally disable an enemies ability to see you all together and completely light up what your looking at to see whats hiding in the bushes or in the dark room

[high quarry]

yeh, the eye adaptation is super slow and unbalanced.

You can 0 out the adaptation attenuation so light is bright and rest is dark, but its too dark the rest of the time, like they havnt balanced their light source intensities enough.

[glass vault]

1000lumen weapon lights are no joke. that will light up an entire room about the same as a 75w tradition light bulb

[high quarry]

Like how much this little lamp lights up the room:

https://i.imgur.com/szYvZXI.jpeg

[glass vault]

2 lumen lamp

[sinful radish]

yeah if you shined a 1000 lumen light at any street light or yellow lamp, its going to white it out as it should in real life.

[high quarry]

This is the same lamp turned off, and the eye attenuation ramped up:

https://i.imgur.com/4F5f4zo.jpeg

[sinful radish]

bro there is no lamp in that photo...............not on that is. Neat the game turns lights off during the day

[edgy oriole]

waiting for a optimization patch be like 😭

[high quarry]

Its the same view, lamp is turnd off..

its like they intentionally made everything too dark, and the lights too weak

[edgy oriole]

the dynamic range is a bit wonky imo

[high quarry]

yep

[late ferry]

manwithfoot has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[glass vault]

my best guess is to get a more creepy and scary vibe for when you are in the labs

[high quarry]

Just this will brighten things up:

r.EyeAdaptation.LensAttenuation=2

[sinful radish]

Lol i get warned just for posting links sometimes. But dont you see the aesthetic they are going for? they dont want you to feel like you are in new zealand breathing clean air milking cows. Its a post apocalyptic game with nuclear fallout. The sky isnt what it once was, and building are barricaded preventing more light. The doorway in front of you: barricaded. The window: barricaded= less light. The skybox is currently in overcast= less light

[high quarry]

If the flashlight wasnt so bad and destructive to the nice lumen views, I wouldnt mind it being so dark, its the vibe.

[real spear]

would anyone by any chance know how to improve this?
https://imgur.com/a/aVh8NnR RTX 3070ti I7 10th gem 64GB ram

[sinful radish]

your fps is 3?

[real spear]

yup 3-4 fps consistently never gone above that everything on low

[glass vault]

probably reduce quality for texutres. im not sure how you got it that bad. too much vram usage?

[high quarry]

Are you even sure its using your GPU and not some integrated graphics?

[real spear]

I do have to note it a 3440x1440 screen but I don't think it should be this bad then and I just can't find a fix

[real spear]

don't have an integrated graphics card

[glass vault]

try medium settings and see if that clears it up.

[sinful radish]

try checking out this video my man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=814y2OPLsX0. I followed everything to a T except I changed textures to high and I recommend using any upscaling method that is 66 percent resolution. He recommends the 100 percent methods which was causing a lot of instability in fps.

[high quarry]

Try potato preset.. just for a sanity check...

https://github.com/ColesyM/S2SettingsGenerator/releases

Will look something like this, but it for sure should get 100+ at 1080 with FSR and framegen

https://i.imgur.com/fUvFoxV.jpeg

[sinful radish]

Im getting As much as 165 fps at times on 2k resolution my man, and a lot of my settings are still on epic. Just peep that youtube guide

[high quarry]

Yeh, I can get same with higher than epic..

[sinful radish]

https://ibb.co/g72LzrB

[real spear]

gonna try the vid right now, potato mode did indeed look well interesting but it did give me 15fps so that's a change

[sinful radish]

the lighting looks goodhttps://ibb.co/zsc7hph

[high quarry]

I have no problems balancing settings for fps, its why I made the settings generator tool 😄

https://i.imgur.com/w2JySlw.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/bLRxdBi.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/eOLNDMM.jpeg

[sinful radish]

LOL then why did you just tell that guy to set to all medium settings. Very contradicting. Then do a 180 and say " I get well over your fps with better than those settings. You win the pissing contest my friend.

[high quarry]

because I was telling him to try the MINIMUM settings possible to sanity check getting 3 fps with a 3070

because it should do 100+ easy on the minimum

[sinful radish]

YOU SAID TO RUN LOWER THAN MEDIUM GO POTATO> Then you 180 and go blah blah im the best. Im good dude thats a mute for me

[high quarry]

eh?

I was telling him to try potato, and warning him what it would like like ahead of time, I wasnt bragging about extremely low settings.

If fps range isnt normal with those, there is something else wrong, and its not messed up graphics settings.

[tawny thicket]

have you tried 1080p? and what settings have you tried to play on?

[real spear]

so currently compiling the shaders with the actual potato generated settings and gonna see what that gives you
I have tried what nvidea reccomends in the profile, I tried 2 notches lower
then I turned everything down to low which well didn't do much to even come close to 30 either
then I tried some optimisation mods some of which got me up to 15-20 up untill the last update which kinda put me back into the 4-5 fps range for the past couple of days rlly so yea haven't gone much above that in the last week (sorry for the big msg)

[high quarry]

Are you also sure NVIDIA DSR isnt on? (rendering at a much higher resolution and scaling down)

Thats DSR factors in nvidia control panel

https://www.nvidia.com/content/dam/en-zz/Solutions/geforce/news/dynamic-super-resolution-instantly-improves-your-games-with-4k-quality-graphics-on-any-monitor/nvidia-control-panel-dsr-sharpness.png

[sinful radish]

Ill tell you right now, no one is running S2 at 4k and having a good time. Might want to consider running a 1080- 2k native monitor. If thats not possible you can run window mode at a lower resolution than your native.

[tawny thicket]

OOOoooofff wait i need my tinfoil hat

tinfoil hat on you actually have a GT 1030

[real spear]

DSR is indeed off https://imgur.com/a/mKwLgi8

[high quarry]

As in a fake one?
GPU-Z should be able to tell

[tawny thicket]

yeah that is what my tinfoil hat told me

[real spear]

https://imgur.com/a/8gAAVHq so I get that the tinfoil hat might come in but yea here is the overlay from GPUZ (tbf I don't get why it performs so horrible either at this point hence why I came here to see if anybody knows a fix)

[tawny thicket]

what do you have oened in the background? Because the overlay says that you are using 36gb of RAM

[real spear]

discord, google and visual studio (ironically enough a computer science student who can't figure out what's wrong with the computer xD)

[tawny thicket]

AAAAAHHHHHHHHH DAMM IT TINFOIL HAT I THOUGHT I COULD TRUST YOU!!!!!!!!! now the hat's about to get SPANKED for LYING!!!!!🤬👺

[high quarry]

Only thing that looks very odd at on that GPU-z is Texture Fill Rate

should try a newer GPU-Z that can also read the die, transistors, date and rebar

[tawny thicket]

to me the clock seem EXTREMLY LOW

[sinful radish]

Lesson number one, only game with discord in the background and a calculator and note pad. Internet browser and other software/programs use too much of your performance

[high quarry]

but from the rest of the specs, it looks something like a MSI Gaming X Trio

[sinful radish]

Even with only discord open, i wouldnt stream a game you are having problems with. Streaming is very impactful on performance

[tawny thicket]

uuhhh question why are you pinging me???

[sinful radish]

oops wrong guy. I was wondering why the name looked different

[high quarry]

not enough for 3 fps, NVENC streaming does cost some performance, because it eats into memory bandwidth, but usually not more than about 10%

[sinful radish]

@tawny thicket This guy has an old gt card???

[tawny thicket]

no just my tinfoil hat telling me stupid s**t (he has a 3070TIE)

[real spear]

https://imgur.com/a/wIlTNUA just updated GPU-Z to the newest version as for clockspeed that is regulated by the nvidea app

[sinful radish]

I bought a gt 1030 and a dell optiplex and merged the two for like 220 bucks and now my gf plays gta 5 online on it with solid 60 fps. Had to turn down a couple things but not much

[tawny thicket]

resizable BAR is disabled. could that be affecting the performance? (usually its like one or two percent but you never know)

[real spear]

wouldn't that only be an issue if the CPU was bottlenecking it? can try it regardless

[sinful radish]

Try running 1080 p resolution. Windowed mode will look better if your native resolution is 4k or 2k. Full screen will make it look kinda blurry downscaling that much. You can use sharpness tho to help if thats what you want.

[tawny thicket]

have you tried clearing the shader cache in the NVIDIA driver? (if there is an option as such)

[real spear]

https://imgur.com/a/1H6RirR well against my expectations with potato and bar turned on it does become playable

[tawny thicket]

i think VRAM usage is still way too high / abnormal

[real spear]

would that indicate something wrong with the card or? cause this is the only game that seems to have issues with it

[high quarry]

but, potato is aweful to look at

so try a mix of potato, very low and low
with the things you prefer the most at low

[real spear]

that is true but I played on the PS1 and 2 so nothing I can't handle my main requirement was to rlly get it to 26 fps atleast to play the game somewhat hahaha
rlly happy that I got it to this level already

[high quarry]

Also, you are a little CPU limited
Ryzen 3600 or similar?

[real spear]

cpu is a i7 10700K

not the best CPU given moore's law so might wanna upgrade that indeed but also not the oldest

[high quarry]

Ah ok, not much you can do there then, assuming its stock/cooled/boosting properly

[real spear]

haven't rlly looked into that direction too much since cpu seems to be quite idle alot of the time mainly GPU spiking to 99% but like lightning said if VRAM is way too high something else might be off

[high quarry]

GPU will stay at 99% most of the time, thats what you want.

Mine is like that ALL of the time, I am never CPU limited.

[tawny thicket]

can you see anything unusuall in task manager? (like IDK some random thing eating 10gb of RAM)

[real spear]

nothing unusual no rainmeter is the only other thing that takes a bit of GPU power 1.2%

[high quarry]

I made Potato for 6GB cards and laptops, so you should be good to afford some better settings for Textures at least

[tawny thicket]

@real spear Actually the VRAM lines up pretty well to 1440P FSR AA with potatoe mode and near a settlement

Have you tried DLSS?

[real spear]

yes I have that is the only thing on by default no matter the game always on performance

[soft stump]

bro i just upgraded my diamont exoskeleton with sprint i unequiped it and it disappeared, i cant believe even that is bugged

[tawny thicket]

ok, that is weird

Then there is still something wrong there (VRAM)

[real spear]

with DLSS itself? could it be CUDA drivers messing with that?

[high quarry]

I dont really know whats running on the system, but something tells me there is something loading up some CPU and thrashing RAM.

[tawny thicket]

Wait, there is such a thing as "CUDA" drivers?

[real spear]

yea CUDNN and CUDA, I normally use them for parallelisation to speed up AI model training

but nvidea requires you to have seperate drivers for that

[tawny thicket]

I swear i never check NVIDIA drivers. Also good to know

[real spear]

I only do when my compiler starts throwing errors again hahaha it's lovely to debug cuda code

https://imgur.com/a/O4Xl8qV as for the ram comparing idle to when the game is running I'd say the game uses a good 16GB which should be more then fine

[tawny thicket]

R.I.P.

[tawny thicket]

so your saying the game uses 16gb?for me it only uses 6gb (edit:more like 8)

[real spear]

yea basically
idle I use about 14-16 as in the image and as you noted when the game is on 32GB is in use

[high quarry]

Ram is only 1066mhz too, so that will cause some nasty 1% lows

[tawny thicket]

*2133MT IIRC

[high quarry]

yep

[tawny thicket]

Then why would you write 1066MH ?

[high quarry]

because thats what it runs at.

[tawny thicket]

What

[high quarry]

2133 MT/s is 1066mhz, its DDR

[tawny thicket]

I thought it was the other way around

[high quarry]

nope, Double Data Rate is logical doubling, so the frequency is half.

[tawny thicket]

Guess i learn something new every day

[high quarry]

So my 6400 expo is 3200mhz:
https://i.imgur.com/BipBVdw.png

[real spear]

given that calculation they should be at 1600MHz but I didn't know that DDR was logical doubling so learned something new

[high quarry]

Then you dont have XMP set in BIOS (which it might not do at 64GB)

[real spear]

that is very likely, never changed anything ram related in BIOS

[high quarry]

then you are running your ram at only 2/3rd of its speed

[real spear]

well found a way to play the high preset on 60ish fps give or take
turns out the steam overlay had turned itself back on and was having a bit of a resource fight with the nvidea overlay

[tawny thicket]

Oh, nice! still at 1440P right?

[real spear]

yes, 50-60 FPS stable (settlements around 40 but still not too shabby)
I searched way too far and long for it to just be the steam overlay being back but it is resolved

[tawny thicket]

I also had no idea that the steam overlay kills perf like that

[topaz oar]

Have they fixed the leaks yet or we still waiting on that?

[tawny thicket]

Unless there has been a patch that I'm not aware of NO, not fully anyway

[topaz oar]

Meh, figured id check in on things lol! i wont play it until they fix it or at least most of it.

[sand nimbus]

Soanisl. Rossini

[soft stump]

with reload i got it back and after 2-3 reloads it worked the sprint mod

[arctic mauve]

could my lenovo legion y740 run stalker 2? CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9750H CPU @ 2.60GHz RAM: 16.0 GB
GPU processor: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti

[plucky quail]

It will survive

[arctic mauve]

how well would you say it would survive? I tried running the game on launch day and I couldn’t make it through the prologue and had to play on absolute minimum settings. gpu was getting near 85°C. have the patches fixed this or is my system just not up to date

[plucky quail]

Not gonna fix it like that. You got a Laptop so it gonna be worst than on pc with that Spec. How much Vram you got?

[arctic mauve]

5966 mb

[plucky quail]

I Think only with FSR Quality all low

But its not gonna be great like around 25-40FPS

[arctic mauve]

a shame, hopefully they port it to ps5

[plucky quail]

Dont think so least anytime soon

[plucky quail]

Maybe get a Xbox series S 200$ or 150$ used.

[severe acorn]

I'm stuck on the Extreme Simplicity the NPC that I need to talk to is not there and I can't move on in the game

[errant aspen]

Have you tried loading an earlier save and doing it again?

[worthy halo]

:ping_pong: PONG / LATENCY :ping_pong:

:slight_smile: Client latency

67 MS

:slight_smile: Shard latency

104 MS

Issues on discords side could create weird or high latency.

[rancid bramble]

30 fps with a controller would be alright

[white pilot]

Is there a way to fix weird mouse input lag ?

[sand pagoda]

@white pilot install this mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/7

[white pilot]

Thanks homie will give it a shot

[sand pagoda]

It won't outright fix the input lag, but it will certainly get rid of most of it

especially if you're using frame generation.

[old forge]

The game usually starts out ok, but after a few minutes goes into framerate limp mode. Starting out at 100fps.. ending out in 10fps.. I have moved from High-> medium and down to low, same problem.. Seems to be connected to a memleak or something..
Changed from 1440p to 1080p as well.. didnt help..
Specs: Intel 14700F, 32GB ddr5, Nvidia RTX4060, SSD, Win11 24h2, latests Nvidia drivers etc..

[lavish mason]

8gb GPU strikes again

[old forge]

japp, but reducing textures, reducing resolution etc.. doesnt help

[kind raptor]

can my i7 11800h 3060 6g vram 16g ram laptop play this atleast on low?

[ripe bramble]

i play it on 2K medium DLSS work around 60 most of the time / 3060 TI

[kind raptor]

do you include Optimize Mod or with FG aswell? because i read that FG cause massive input lag.

[stable kite]

Yeah on medium to low but wait for patches cause the game drops to 5 out of nowhere and if you can add more ram would be great here uses up to 22gb

[old forge]

The funny thing is that the game itselves uses around 4-5GB of main-memory, but its using 6->22GB of Vram.. Mainmem keeps creeping up to 6-7GB until crash, or fps limp mode (memleak?)
I have noticed that if im in limp-mode, and move my ass into a new area, sometimes it resets and i get back to 100fps.. for 5mins...

[lavish mason]

Yes

[ripe bramble]

i use it when i start playing and then i get so many crash when i turn it off its gone i think its a problem for now

for now i just use optimize mode and a another mode for stamina its a game changer for me the stamina in game is shit now without mode

[compact birch]

I tryd to play on rtx 3060 mobile with 16 RAM , the game runs fine on medium preset, but the same like most of playes got, its dropind fps to 5 - 10. Hope devs will do something with that, i was realy hoping to play thes game in my laptop.🤷‍♂️

[cursive fossil]

fps limmit to 60fps and your fine

[vernal spire]

so what's the latest topic?

[blissful niche]

game vs steak

[wicked meteor]

crazy

[deft imp]

How many fps you getting?

[sand nimbus]

Its not fixing it. Its the memory leak issue that makes the game unplayable since release

[green heart]

I wonder what is causing some people getting a memory leak and others not getting it.

[cursive fossil]

Is not a fix but is a work-arround.

[olive crest]

does it work?

[cursive fossil]

Operating the GPU close on its limmit can cause this memory leak, where you then have this steady bellow 20fps.

[green heart]

ah, fair enough thats good to know.

[olive crest]

when i first launched the game it took hours for the memory leak frame drrops to start i raan on High settings at 50-60 fps no issue

[sand nimbus]

BS

[cursive fossil]

try fps limmit on 60fps and disable frame gen. is your gou operating not close to the limmit like 80% or so then you should be fine

[olive crest]

fps limit 30, no frame gen, TSR at 30 scale, all lowest settings, 1440p still stuck at 5-7fps

[cursive fossil]

Its only an assumption. But for many it worked out pretty well.

[cursive fossil]

what setup?

[cursive fossil]

Have you restardet the game completely after applying the settings?

[olive crest]

Win 10, R7 3800X, RTX3070, 32GB DDR4 @3600MHz, 1440p

[olive crest]

yes, and tried different save states, will restart PC to to be sure

[cursive fossil]

thats very weird. fsr 3 and dlss off, yes?

[cursive fossil]

what us the gpu and vram stats showing? are they running close to the limmits?

[olive crest]

how would you monitor that? according to tm memorys at 72-80% usage
gpu just syas 2% which i doubt.

bg usage for ram is 30%

[sand dune]

i've resolved my insanely low fps issue with 12900k, 3080ti, and 32gb of ram. ended up being nvidia drivers. i updated it right around when stalker2 was released, but that one must've been bad. i updated it again last night, and i'm now getting 80+ fps opposed to the mid 20s I was getting before.

[shut elbow]

Their drivers become much worse recently.
I had to reinstall it like 3 time in last 2 years and like 2 in past 7 years

[glass vault]

oh shit really. yippie higher fps time

[sand dune]

yup. even upgraded to a 9800x3d and it still ran at the same mid 20's fps until i updated the drivers again. so its definitely something with the old driver.

[glass vault]

wait did you get the stalker 2 launch drivers or did you have an older one? because when i played at launch i was getting 70-80 pretty well

[tawny thicket]

you managed to get one? i thought that was impossible

[sand dune]

pretty sure it was the launch drivers. i first updated 1~3 days after stalker2 release.

[sand dune]

my microcenter had 25+ in stock when i went to grab one. guess i got lucky.

[glass vault]

launch drivers are sent out a few days early btw. so it sounds like nvidia drivers didn't have stalker 2 support/ make it run faster

[tawny thicket]

oh i guess microcenter still has them

[sand dune]

it mentioned stalker2 on the release notes, so thought i'd be good. but nope lol.

[glass vault]

it happens with every early launch. having thousands of people playing the game shows the flaws fast

[sand dune]

im just glad i finally got it resolved. i was about to throw my pc out the window lol

[glass vault]

thats cool microcenter still sells 12900k bundles for 400

[coral token]

hey all

I'm unsure if I can even play anymore any games sadly due to carpal tunnel syndrome in my left hand

only thing I can see that sort of works is having something under arm to support it

[plucky quail]

Was that really Nvidia Driver?

[vapid wigeon]

It's more so Nvidia than an AMD thing, but hard to tell why. FG is to blame mostly with DLSS and also lesser Vram cards in general. I even ditched UW and went to 4k last week and I'm still pushing my card to its limit and doing fine, it hardly budges even close to its 20gb limit. So its an odd one for sure.

[fading stone]

anyone else not having nvidia optimisation for S2 profile not appearing? new driver was supposed to register it

[lavish mason]

Seems like an insurmountable problem. Your only sensible recourse it to amputate the arm at the shoulder

[sand dune]

go buy a wrist brace. i have carpal tunnel too, and that's what i use when it flares up.

[lavish mason]

Possibly suggests the keyboard feet are deployed in error too? Flatten the keyboard if you can. Carpel tunnel does suck

[glass vault]

office chair gang

[errant aspen]

If anybody gets the bug where it crashes the game on opening and using your yellow loot box storage in bases, open it up and press r to collect all loot and then close it without interacting with it with your mouse. Then find a blue box in the base and use that instead. You can send coupons to my PDA. 🥂

[flat brook]

A palm rest + flattening the keyboard might not be enough anymore, but a wrist brace and half hour/hourly breaks can definitely help

[errant aspen]

After playing nearly half the game without my stash box, I gave that a try and it actually worked, I slowly moved towards my new box to transfer it all 🤣

[cursive fossil]

well, open nvidia console and enable the HUD Dsiplay. At least you can see GPU and CPU. But for more details you must install MSI Afternburner to get more details out of it, for e.g VRAM and so on.

[lavish mason]

I also found learning the stranger technique and flipping my self soothing activities to my offhand helped immensely

[glass vault]

nvidia app does this as well

[cursive fossil]

right, seems like with the new UI.

[glass vault]

the nividia app is a great improvement over geforce experience

[plucky quail]

How about all the Controls from the Control app? Are they in or need to be still implemented?

[deft zenith]

https://youtu.be/814y2OPLsX0?si=ObvZwS6ixwypC727

[heady tide]

have looked at those small onehanded keyboards (razer tartarus for example)? these things are available in a lot of different "shapes" to support your wrist and may solve your issue

[deft zenith]

This was a pretty good guide in settings optimization

[glass vault]

the whole point for the nividia app was to combine experience and control panel together

[plucky quail]

Yea but i heard that many Settings are not in that where in the Control panel.

[deft zenith]

Some settings barely change any cpu, or gpu benchmarks, right now it seems.

[glass vault]

it simplifies the big ones like upscailing, monitor hz but it still has the original panel shortcut

UI is much better than experience plus no stupid account to use the program

[shut elbow]

And it should stay that way. Its simple and functional, i HATE flashy, bloated control panels

[deft zenith]

I got an AMD Rysen 7 9800 x3D CPU - with an AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT GPU

I'm running with the settings close to the youtube link i posted. Getting 58-74 fps on Zalissya

[glass vault]

it makes it easier for new people to not get swamped by every piece of info. like no normal person uses the settings to set custom gamma levels and color levels

[deft zenith]

Its kinda all over depending where the npc's are

[glass vault]

fps drops going to any npc outpost just tanks hard.

that is 100% a scam

DO no click this link. it probably trying to yoink your login for steam. this is not how steam gift cards are distributed. he also was here just to send the link.

[deft zenith]

Still getting npc hiccups in Zalissya, the hands and head rendering in every now and again. But its pretty smooth here. I've been hearing a few bumps in the road for Navidia. Been looking to see how S2 is doing on Intel and nividia hardware for cross referencing

[glass vault]

im using 7950x3d and a 3080ti i still get hicups on medium 1440p at bases. could be vram size problem

[red radish]

settlements/towns seem to be horrible ||rostok|| damn near breaks my game

[tawny thicket]

#SCAM

[primal sentinel]

Report the post to mods

[glass vault]

@pure ibex can you do me a solid and delete the scam link

the zone taketh

[austere crest]

When is the CDO constructor error ever getting fixed?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1311817583351169114/1315719867265061006/image.png?ex=67586f1d&is=67571d9d&hm=7acd07a83494186f1d0b196834e8e66444a2a8129e1916daf96364328c619f28&

[glass vault]

no eta like every other bug. the answer is eventually

[austere crest]

So, game is just a beta release right now...like most games these days...phucking 150 GB...

[tawny thicket]

the message was deleted🤪🎉🥳

[flat brook]

Personally with a decently OC’d 13700K, I get close to no stutters/hiccups around NPC Hubs. It gradually drops from 110-120 to 100-110 FPS going into Rostok for me, and from 80-90 to 70-75 without FG

GPU Usage stays pegged between 94-99%

[plucky quail]

Intel is better in this game except you have the best CPU 9800X3D everything below is just Intel I5 14600K beats the 7800X3D

[coral token]

well this issue is only recent problem most likely will need to get surgery done

[coral token]

can you recommend any good wristbraces?

[coral token]

I forgot that I had keyboard heightened now lowered it sort of helps with something under arm itself to keep it higher

[deft zenith]

Niiice! Yeah i avoided intel 13th and 14th gen cpu's because of the on going issues with them. Debated the rysen 9 X 3D cpu, but was crazy pricey in September

[plucky quail]

Next year i bet you can get one for pretty good price.

Wonder how the used maked for 7800X3D is gonna be. 💸

[heady tide]

good luck buddy.. tf am i even supposed to do instead of wasting hours in games?!

[coral token]

any x3ds are imho great

[shut elbow]

Stalker 2 is so badly optimized that it runs better on worse cpu? 🤨

[coral token]

I work as a chef so have to fix this issue as soon as possible since I can't work with non functioning hand that holds food I am cutting

[deft zenith]

I do hope to upgrade this pc in the future. But un'clocked , i hope to be set for awhile. Hope those prices fall real nice

[coral token]

what specs rn

[plucky quail]

Well no its cus Intel has much better single core performance and the higher clocks are apparently better in this game. Has nothing to do with opti its gonna stay that way i would say

[deft zenith]

I got an AMD Rysen 7 9800 x3D CPU - with an AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT GPU

No overclocking or anything

[shut elbow]

Duh
Its like 4 years old info.
Intel lost crown 2 generations ago

[coral token]

I mean sounds like quite set for a while already

[heady tide]

yeah. .. dragon is right. AMD is now king when it comes to gaming

[deft zenith]

I'm hoping! Very very much so

[coral token]

Zen architecture since zen3 has been beating intel on IPC

[fleet talon]

Just got a 2nd 7900xtx to test temps. My asrock phantom 7900xtx is getting very hot and now noisy as fan, hopefully the sapphire pulse is better

[shut elbow]

Undervolt it. 9800x3d loves undervolt. Mine runs at -30, 5.6 all core below 70⁰C full load xd

[coral token]

I should undervolt my 5800x3d see if any gains

[deft zenith]

Intel is also better on heat, but 13th and 14th had the voltage issue and chip degradation. I do hope they get their stuff ironed out cause they make a damn good product

[coral token]

if there was no zen architecture you'd still get from intel quad core i7s tbh

[deft zenith]

I'm still a novice with how long I've been away from pc's, so undervolting in the bio's is something i don't wanna tamper with

[flat brook]

You can do it through Ryzen Master, has a much more user friendly GUI

[plucky quail]

IDK why you are interpreting stuff. But saying its cus of Opti does not say why AMD is worst in his game. I am ONLY saying in this game cus of the single core performance.
Talking like if i am arguing if AMD is the Crown in CPU.

[fleet talon]

Yeh do it with software within when it crashes it will revert

[shut elbow]

Every x3d loves undervolt, but gains on 9800x3d r ridiculous xd

[flat brook]

Any unstable voltage you push trough Ryzen Master will be reset when it inevitably crashes and reboots your PC, and considering you’re undervolting as opposed to overvolting, you don’t have to get a heart attack when it happens

[heady tide]

only lowering vcore or voltage/clock-curve a little ist pretty easy and could get you better temps aka better clock at same temps as before.

[flat brook]

^ Instead of 1,4V @ 5.3GHz, I run my chip at 1.25V @ 5.9GHz, staying between 50-60C and significantly cutting down on power consumption.

[shut elbow]

I have to try real oc later. Some folks manage to get stable 6.4ghz on 9800x3d xd

[coral token]

for me it's easier to bios uefi than this improved GUI so mind explaining how ryzen master works?

[flat brook]

If you give me an hour, I might even be able to walk you through it. Pretty sure Ryzen Master and AMD firmware is still installed on my drive🤣

[plucky quail]

Is there any post?

[austere crane]

fyi if anyone might be curious or interested in making the same upgrade, i recently went from a 5800x3d w/ 32gb ddr4 3600 to a 9800x3d w/ 32gb ddr5 6400 cl32. (i play some other games like flight simulator, dcs world, arma etc which are very CPU intensive before anyone gives me crap about it. those games can and will eat all the cpu you can throw at them.) i like to play most unreal games (well, the demanding ones) on my 120hz display at 1/2 vsync with the 60fps frame limit to keep input lag down, this all gives the best possible frame pacing/consistency provided you can maintain 60fps at all times, since if you do drop below it, Gsync does not work because of the fractional vsync.

anywhose, we all know the worst spots in stalker 2 are the npc settlements so that's where i focused. i can just barely maintain 60fps (with minimal GPU load to make sure it's not impacting the results) with the 9800x3D in most settlements. Zalissya is still the worst by far, particularly entering the area from the southern road. still see a moment of frame drops until the game loads everything and stabilizes. slag heap is second heaviest and just gives me a hint of frame drop running up the main road/entrance. the rest don't give the slightest hiccup. before with the 5800x3d it was quite a bit worse.

tl;dr is stalker 2 is horrifically unoptimized but if you throw best of the best hardware at it... it's still horrifically unoptimized :p

edit: this is all obviously without frame gen, before anyone has the instant lizard brain response of BUT I GET 144 FPS ON MY 5700X

[shut elbow]

Current record is 7.24
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/processors/the-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-just-hit-6-9-ghz-and-thousands-of-in-game-fps-with-an-overclock-and-it-barely-even-broke-a-sweat/

[late ferry]

samusracer has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[austere crane]

btw when i say smooth frame pacing, i mean perfect 16.67ms across the board, which is not the standard most people use

[coral token]

I'd appreciate it

[plucky quail]

I hope we can see soon Benchmark of Intels new GPUs most interested of the B570 with the 10GB of Vram. Least in Indiana we would see much better stats against the 4060. And low end builds gonna be sick.

[shut elbow]

4060 is a crime against humanity.

[austere crane]

nvidia needs competition, in any segment of the market. i hope intel lays the smack down in bang for the buck in that low end market. then maybe they can start ramping up to higher end stuff

because good lord the 5000 series gpu launch is going to be disgusting in every way

[shut elbow]

It their new cards r weaker than trash called 4060 then there is no hope

[austere crane]

nvidia getting insanely bold with their pricing without any competition, scalpers, fake scarcity... all of it

mark my words, we are gonna be seeing 5090 (base founder's edition ones or whatever nvidia ends up calling them) going for $3000+ on the scalper market. and i think the msrp is going to be $2199 to $2399

[plucky quail]

OMG the reports of the 5060 with only 8GB of Vram would be just disgusting

[austere crane]

dude it would blow my mind if they do that... they probably will though

[late ferry]

kerensk has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[coral token]

F getting new gpu with 8gb ram like my 6800xt already has 16gb

[plucky quail]

well they say least the 580 is 10% faster than 4060 so thats good and if the 570 is same and performance 100$ less with all the features that Nvidia has would be a banger. Well if AMD does not also has something.

[austere crane]

8gb is utterly useless in modern gaming. the 12gb on my 3080 ti isn't enough at 1440p on many games

[austere crane]

amd already announced they are getting out of gaming gpus entirely, nvidia will have no competition other than from intel in the low end

hence why the 5000 release is just going to be a total s***show

[heady tide]

sadly, this is probably very true. pricing will be bonkers

edit: and idiots will still buy it. "1.5k for mid-end gpu? man thanks frickin robbery buys it anyways"

[austere crane]

yeah, i don't think people are prepared for how low nvidia is about to stoop. and by low i mean high :p

[plucky quail]

"out of gaming gpus entirely?" You mean high end but low end they gonna bring out so 70 Performance level. (probably)

[plucky quail]

I think about 2000$ 5090 Buyers.

[austere crane]

maybe, i'm not 100% sure where they are considering the "cut off" point but i believe it was only low end stuff

[plucky quail]

What gonna be the 6090? 5K

[austere crane]

the 5090 is for sure going to be $2000 minimum but i think that's too conservative. like i said, i think msrp for founders edition will be $2199 maybe higher, and then the board partners will be $2399 and up (the sky's the limit really...)

inflation is a reality and even the 32gb vram alone is very costly

i saw some leaked marketing stuff from nvidia saying it's meant for "professionals" (idk if they mean like content creators or what) but prepare yourselves for eye watering pricing

[green heart]

and then game publishers will still be like "people are still only playing fortnite !!!!" well duh people cant get a mortagage for their GPUs

[plucky quail]

Well we know they are gonna go low-mid range only like the 5700XT was also only mid. But after 8000Gen they will again go to High end GPUs. Cus they gonna combine there server GPUs and Gaming GPUs and gonna call it UDNA (Unified).

[green heart]

my 6650XT is still doing really well on video games.
problem is UE5 games

[plucky quail]

Yea deff gonna be more than the MSRP like the 4090 was also pretty high.

[austere crane]

UE5 is definitely gonna be the driver of most 5000 series upgrade purchases imo, lol

[coral token]

my 6800xt doing really well too and even on ue5 doesn't struggle too much

[plucky quail]

I know in DX12 Fortnite AMD is faster than Nvidia like now with 7900XTX and 4080SUper. But DX11 Nvidia has better FPS. I dont know that API Performance mode uses but by that its gonna more CPU bound than GPU.

[green heart]

atm im trying to optimise further so I can turn off framegen

[austere crane]

i know my 3080 ti is just around the corner from being 2 generations old, but my god i can barely get ~45 fps at 1440p dlss performance in indiana jones with full pathtracing turned on. it's so demanding i honestly don't understand why developers bother, the marketshare of customers who can utilize those features has to be literally like 1%

[green heart]

its so publishers can put "ooo look at this shiny!!!" on the marketing material

[austere crane]

i suppose, but like... even the most braindead gamer has to be aware "i'm never gonna be able to run that" lol

[heady tide]

NVIDIA annual net income for 2024 was $29.76B, a 581.32% increase from 2023.
NVIDIA annual net income for 2023 was $4.368B, a 55.21% decline from 2022.
NVIDIA annual net income for 2022 was $9.752B, a 125.12% increase from 2021.

bois realized how much they could squeeze the customers..

[green heart]

imagine what its gonna be like on console

[plucky quail]

Yea the new AMD Driver fixed the 1% low massive and now it feels smooth.

[plucky quail]

They could actually throw the Consumer Market away and dont get a hit by that.

[coral token]

sweet new drivers

[austere crane]

consoles are never, ever going to have the level of specs to run pathtracing and similar things. i think consoles as a concept will be completely dead and everything will have gone to streaming (uggggh) before console hardware gets anywhere close

[green heart]

im on linux so I dont get a new driver update until theres a kernel update but there is a kernel update for me lol

@austere crane xbox currently sold less units than the gamecube did and that was considered a failure, and I heard that the PS5 pro is struggling with some video games as well.

[plucky quail]

Lets pray to the Hardware Gods that dont happen. Also being scared by the Idea that nothing is gonna be real frames and all frames by AI.

[austere crane]

yeah, the ps5 pro is kind of a joke atm (although that has a lot to do with the software side of things too, like how bad PSSR is) but i think it's proof positive that consoles can't compete in that market anymore. the sony ceo himself more or less stated that the future of the company isn't in pushing faster hardware and better raytracing and all that. and no doubt the abysmal ps5 pro launch is only cementing that notion

[green heart]

like nothing is going to get optimised because hardware side of things is like "oooo like at this new shiny thing thats limited to our GPUs only !!!!!!!! with this you can get a boost in fps and make all games smooth for * cough * £3000 * cough *"

[flat brook]

@coral token

https://imgur.com/a/SQ3hUl0

Profile 1 > Manual > Peak core voltage

[flat brook]

Only save profile when your settings have passed thorough testing, and I advise against applying profile on startup unless you’re 10000% sure it’s completely stable

[plucky quail]

Shame that many Nvidia users that have not enough Vram (pertty much 3070, 4060 4070 Variants) are gonna have to upgrade or play lower settings even if there GPU can do more. The 4060 is now outdated less than 2Years after launch.

[coral token]

I will try this

[flat brook]

I would do 0.05V increments initially, and then 0.01V increments once you hit your first BSOD

[cursive fossil]

IMO consoles could never keep up with PC in terms of quality and performance. Only beginners, sporadic players and little kids using consoles since is easy, cheap and convinient.

[flat brook]

So 1.35 > 1.30 > 1.25 > 1.20 (BSOD > 1.24 etc

[coral token]

that's logical tbh

[flat brook]

@coral token And test increments under load of course, I recommend Cinebench, not AMD’s own tester

[heady tide]

it is already outdated, i think. besides some new dlss stuff the 4060 gets hammered by anything above 3070 lvl

[coral token]

weird doesn't let me change there anything on cpu itself

[flat brook]

You in Profile 1 with the mode set to manual? Which chip specifically?

[plucky quail]

And do long test so that you dont miss the erro and get later in games BSOD experiences

[coral token]

only shows me memory stuff in profile 1

and I/O which all is useless I'll just do in UEFI

[flat brook]

Ryzen Master should allow you to touch everything your BIOS will let you touch on X/X3D chips, even on B boards, strange

[coral token]

is x470f board

[flat brook]

Yeah I don’t see why RM wouldn’t allow you to touch anything besides memory/IO on a X470 board and X/X3D chip

[coral token]

I'll go in UEFI

[flat brook]

100% sure you had Manual mode selected in Profile 1? IIRC the only way things would be greyed out is when you have Default selected in the profiler

[coral token]

it's a bit weird that doesn't show up at all under profiles cpu stuff not sure why

[flat brook]

At the top when you click Profile 1, it doesn’t have Default, Precision boost overdrive, Auto overclock and Manual like in the image I linked?

[coral token]

yep doesn't

ah I know why mobo has it locked down

[flat brook]

BIOS’ regulated?

[coral token]

yep, asus mobo lol

so gonna go change some settings there

[flat brook]

Makes sense, one of the reasons I handicapped my ASUS board. Probably also the reason my 13700K is still healthy. ASUS has a very bad track record when it comes to voltage regulation over the past 3/4 years

[coral token]

It's am4 board x470 chipset so not as affected

[grave radish]

that aside, adults forget how the MOST PLAYED GAMES these days literally are fortnite and roblox and minecraft. the kids go crazy for those games

[coral token]

What I heard other ones did get worse voltage and even fried some x3ds

[coral token]

But wait my vddcr cpu voltage already is at 1.1v lol

[wary totem]

[green heart]

yeah the most played games is literally live service games from like 2016

[heady tide]

yup. asus stock voltage settings fried some X3D, because they exceeded what AMD recommended as max voltage. then they released a bios update to fix that issue, which was labelled as "beta" hence voids your warranty.
besides the crazy high voltage, ASUS's failure protection failed horribly in some cases (mostly expensive af high end boards) and fried other hardware when an X3D died.
rough times for good ol ASUS.. hopefully they learned from it

[flat brook]

Jesus Christ, 7800X3D went from 540,- to 599,- at the retailers in my country

Gonna be a while before the 9800X3D becomes available and a viable upgrade

[green heart]

Yeah everything's gone to being expensive again

[pseudo blade]

What currency?

[flat brook]

Euro

[pseudo blade]

589€ in cz

[flat brook]

Yeah just gonna hold off for a bit and see when 9800X3Ds are in stock again and for what price. They sold out a day after launch priced at 650€ here

[leaden dune]

That's insane lol, I bought my 7800X3D last year for 330

[flat brook]

If we had those prices here last year I would have gone for that as well. But the 7800X3D was 480-490 last year in my region, and my 13700K was 310

[leaden dune]

Sorry to hear, it's definitely tough in some regions

[deft bloom]

I remember making the shameful decision to buy the 7900xtx for about 1000 USD. Great card haven't had any issues... the only issue was the financial impact

[glass vault]

insane to see a 9800x3d being only 150$ less than a 7950x3d for double the core count

[leaden dune]

The 9800X3D is barely In stock in Europe, if at all, and even then the cost is close to 700 euros for the few I've seen

[glass vault]

i mean i understand wanting the best cpu on the market but man the cost difference doesn't make alot of sense

[leaden dune]

It's absolutely not worth paying that artificial premium, maybe in a few months when supply and prices have come down to be more reasonable

[glass vault]

gotta love amd for the fact of keeping a socket alive for so long. saves on ewaste

[pseudo blade]

Is it stock in Japan?

Dubai have far more low prices of hw.

[glass vault]

supply and demand at its finest

[pseudo blade]

You can fly to Dubai and back for few 100€ 😄

[visual terrace]

God it’s cringe when people show off their specs. Like bro who cares

[hard juniper]

real

[wintry needle]

username relevant 👀

[lost owl]

Same reason why I went for the 14600k. The 7800X3D started around 280 bucks here and is around 480 right now.

[heady tide]

yeah. imagine someone would flex a pretty much highend system and then slap some weird af amount of ram in it

[high quarry]

rewrote ini export from the settings generator to use reflection and prop and sanity check the property written. Fixed a lot of wrong exports.

A balanced profile in Zalissya, 1080, FSR Q + FG: https://i.imgur.com/51EH4lr.jpeg

[plucky quail]

Is that CPU or GPU test?

[high quarry]

both, a balance

[plucky quail]

Yea but are you testing CPU or the GPU. Cus if CPU then there is no AI to test to.

[plucky quail]

FR. But anyways like your Username 🙂

[high quarry]

doesnt matter for me, I am never CPU limited

[thin wagon]

Is it normal my 1% lows are in the 40s? I have a 4090 and 7600x3d.

[lost owl]

The real struggle is to have or to not have an anime bloodsucker sticker on your case

[hard juniper]

yes

[thin wagon]

Do you think that will be fixed.

[thin wagon]

what cpu do you have. I have a 7600x3d and i am still limited

[high quarry]

9800x3D

[thin wagon]

Damn bro. if you were limited. wed be in real trouble

[high quarry]

Well I am, but only up at 280-350fps.

[thin wagon]

what resolution? whats your gpu

[high quarry]

I am always GPU limited, so have to scale down res to get more fps.

[thin wagon]

is there any settings i can turn down to be less cpu limited?

[high quarry]

anything to do with geometry usually helps

[shut elbow]

basically 1h after launch it was unavalaible. EVERYWHERE
Right now, if there is one, it costs 600-700 euro

[high quarry]

In Zalissya around 10-12 NPCs, it doesnt become CPU limited until 310fps

Which isnt any sort of realistic scenario, generally tops out at 170fps at 1080 FSR Q while close to them: https://i.imgur.com/LhYLSdU.png

[glass vault]

I'm comparing retail listings

[high quarry]

NPCs generally dont cause much FPS drop, its more about the geometry detail up close:

https://i.imgur.com/8sBMmxG.jpeg

They raise the multi-core CPU usage by about 10-15%, but still < 50% on an 8/16 core

[icy anvil]

4070 super is required for playing the game

[coral token]

Damn

[flat brook]

I got my 13700K for 310, Mobo for 90 bucks cheaper than the AM5 counterpart, so no brainer on my end as well

[high quarry]

Anyone interested in this balanced Engine.ini? I could put up a gist

https://i.imgur.com/PiZleWW.jpeg

[midnight anvil]

for shits and giggles i ran stalker 2 on my girlfriends computer. shes got a 3070 ti 32 gb and a ryzen 9. still runs like dog. got a better cpu than my i9 9900k and it still struggled

8gb vram card as well

[high quarry]

of course, its an 8GB mid-range GPU, CPU only matters for: multicore around NPCs, and single core for detailed geometry.

[midnight anvil]

so basically GSC is like...get a 4090

[high quarry]

pretty much 😄

[midnight anvil]

sums about development these days

[high quarry]

You can get by on a mid-high GPU with a 16GB card, but thats still $500

and you have to lower settings, and upscale and framegen..

This is on a 7800XT hellhound: https://i.imgur.com/LdEbI9A.jpeg

[midnight anvil]

so mid high being 4070+?

[vocal horizon]

yeah pretty much

[midnight anvil]

yeah im lucky enough to get 90

[high quarry]

4070 is a little weaker in raster, but yeh, 4070 super

[midnight anvil]

so that jump between a 4060ti and a 4070 is super high

[high quarry]

+$200 (or $100 for AMD)

[midnight anvil]

unless 4070 is just barely cutting it

[vocal horizon]

idk I get around 70 fps on 1440p ultrawide medium settings (4070)

[midnight anvil]

aye. im going to upgrade to a 5800x3d and maybe some day ill get a amd card

[high quarry]

7900 GRE would be better than both, but its too good value so mostly sold out/price bumped now

[midnight anvil]

in town? im lucky enough to to see 40 without it becoming a slideshow

[vocal horizon]

I get around 60 fps in town with a 5700x3d

[high quarry]

145-160 in wild, 120-130 in town

[midnight anvil]

yeah the stuttering is horrendous for me. ive been mobbing on gamma lately

[high quarry]

actually, I am on running up the road to Rostok, so will see if its still > 100 with this profile

[midnight anvil]

so far slag is the worst for me

[high quarry]

its locked to my limit of 160 for now

[midnight anvil]

i am curious though for my setup with a balanced engine.ini

i set my ram setting in gameusersettings but when i load an engine.ini its somehow worse

[high quarry]

Do you want my current Engine.ini?

[midnight anvil]

sure. ill give it a shot

my setup 4060 ti i9-9900k 32 gb of ram and 8gb vram

[high quarry]

https://gist.github.com/ColesyM/dcb020b56a248c6c8587c18a0d523457

[midnight anvil]

okay do i need to change in game settings or plug that and play?

[high quarry]

that will override all the in game settings, except upscaling/res

[midnight anvil]

gotcha

[high quarry]

So you prob still want DLSS/FSR etc

[midnight anvil]

ive been using dlss and FG, seems to work really well

[high quarry]

This is at 90% screen res:
https://i.imgur.com/wzOJ4Bg.jpeg

[vocal horizon]

bros cpu costs more than his gpu lol

[high quarry]

yep 😦 need that 7900xtx...

[midnight anvil]

dont even remember what i paid for it lmfaooo

[high quarry]

my 7800XT was 570 EUR
my 9800X3D was 545 EUR
so not quite 🙂

[midnight anvil]

so off the rip i have 80fps in zalissya. i also have mods...i dont have alife extended. but i have a few.

[high quarry]

In Rostok around NPCs, near Traders, Bar/Arena https://i.imgur.com/ZB3x7V6.jpeg

[midnight anvil]

god man you have a nice computer

[high quarry]

notice CPU usage climbed to 51%, that's the effect NPCs have.

[midnight anvil]

and i fear working on A life could make outside be a clusterfeck

[high quarry]

In the trader area: https://i.imgur.com/yBmaYe6.jpeg

[midnight anvil]

yeah that area really hurt for me. id have to restart to play

[high quarry]

in Rostok bar:
https://i.imgur.com/mxDaf5d.jpeg

This smoke above the tables has a weird interaction with the lightshafts at first, but it settles pretty quick: https://i.imgur.com/17fNhiK.jpeg

[strong rapids]

What do you guys think about a 4060 Ti 8gb running this game?

[midnight anvil]

dogshite my friend

[strong rapids]

I'm looking to upgrade to a 24gb card, I'm assuming that will run the game much better

[high quarry]

16GB cards are enough.

[strong rapids]

I am on 1440p, are you sure?

[high quarry]

Yep, I am on 1440 right now, in Rostok, looking at Arena Arnie:

https://i.imgur.com/7Kce4KR.jpeg

9.6GB

[strong rapids]

Yeahp, my card is why I'm getting frame problems then, I think I may go with 24gb anyway, just to really future proof my rig

[high quarry]

Maybe a 20GB card then

[strong rapids]

I didn't consider 20gb, I will do some research on them now, thank you friend :)

[high quarry]

This thing:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z9xRsY/powercolor-red-devil-radeon-rx-7900-xt-20-gb-video-card-rx7900xt-20g-eoc

Its much more powerful than mine.

[midnight anvil]

post performance pics

that looks like a BEEFY card

[strong rapids]

Amazing card, and only just out of my budget, I'll pick it up as soon as I have the extra dosh

[high quarry]

it is, the below that is a hellhound thats less bulky

[midnight anvil]

honestly.

thats not a bad price AT ALL. its still a lot but. i expected 1000+

[high quarry]

well no, it doesnt have the NVIDIA tax 😄

[strong rapids]

Exactly, 20gb for that price almost feels like its too good to be true haha, I think it's time I dumped nvidia

[midnight anvil]

ahh thats right...

[vocal horizon]

hopefully when fsr 4 comes out it will be close to dlss

[midnight anvil]

an am5 cpu is the only choice for that right?

[high quarry]

not the only one
9800x3D was just the best option, not that you can find it in stock..

[midnight anvil]

so i couldnt use am4 if i got that card?

[high quarry]

of course, 5700x3D, 5800x3D, 5800x, 5900x, 5950x etc

[midnight anvil]

it would bottleneck?

[strong rapids]

oh btw, I have an AMD Ryzen 5 5600x, is that still good enough?

[high quarry]

mid-low now, its 3.5y old

actually, 2.5, closer to 3

[midnight anvil]

oh cool...i think i was going for a 5800x3d

[strong rapids]

should I invest in the 20gb gpu or a new cpu first? I'm assuming the gpu is more important in this case

[glass vault]

5700x3d is a better bet to find new 5800x3d you are at mercy of ebay

[midnight anvil]

thought i saw it on amazon

[glass vault]

i would say gpu but i would wait till lat january

[high quarry]

Look what this guy does to my single core CPU usage: https://i.imgur.com/6nvrSrF.jpeg

[strong rapids]

I planned to do exactly that, thanks for answering my questions guys ^^

[high quarry]

its small geometry that spikes single cores

[vocal horizon]

you mightve but the 5700x3d is like 3x cheaper for 5-10% slower

[wintry needle]

what the actual living fvck is that two headed abomination that took about 40 shotgun shells to the face and 17 medkits to kill???

[glass vault]

windego

[vocal horizon]

chimera, I dont even bother fighting them

[high quarry]

This guy is even worse, he has a backpack and some smaller features, 95% core:

https://i.imgur.com/4BfBNbt.jpeg

[glass vault]

what software are you using for monitoring?

[high quarry]

rivatuner statistics

[wintry needle]

you mean we'll have to kill him too at some stage, and he's tough as coffin nails?

[high quarry]

no, I meant he is harsh on CPU single core 😄

[wintry needle]

aahhh thank fvck 😅

[high quarry]

Found something with even more bits of even smaller geometry, 98% CPU core

https://i.imgur.com/aUH17mX.jpeg

its some kind of radiator with > 100 pipes on it

curious what this is doing to my CPU temps

not much, 55C

[wintry needle]

this fella was guarding a rich stash plus a perfect condition vs vintar and 3 boxes of ammo for it 😄

[high quarry]

I love it when its bright sun, not cloudy:

https://i.imgur.com/nppjA9T.jpeg

and now its stormy and raining 😄

[austere crane]

it is a gorgeous, gorgeous game much of the time 👍

[high quarry]

Yeh, but especially that mix of lumen and directional light+shadows when it blends how its supposed to: https://i.imgur.com/bN52XCi.jpeg

[austere crane]

yeah, that's when it looks jaw dropping

[high quarry]

im happy with that profile
140-160 (because capped)
120-130 up close to multiple NPCs

[wooden rapids]

How’s your fps?

7900xtx and 7900x, optimized setting I get like 130 fps with far 3 on 1440p

[high quarry]

WIsh I had 7900xtx, so I could run native res

[wooden rapids]

Native is 90 fps…

[high quarry]

Yeh, but thats with 7800XT on my profile

150fps with 77% scaling, I need 30-40% more raster perf.

[wooden rapids]

I just use fsr with quality preset. Maybe a 9800X3D might help

[high quarry]

thats something between 7900XT and 7900XTX, so would be XTX

FSR quality is too low for me, and thats more like 170fps

[wooden rapids]

Upscaling have artifacts

Xess ultra quality plus is always my go to for that native feeling. Also AMD Fluid Motion Frame 2 is nice but too much stuttering

[high quarry]

77% just seems nicer than 67% FSR Quality
https://i.imgur.com/TAxqPPh.jpeg

[wooden rapids]

u have the 9800X3D

[high quarry]

yeh, so I dont lose fps in places like Rostok:
https://i.imgur.com/ZB3x7V6.jpeg

[wooden rapids]

sad, I always wanted an X3D chips, I just compress and unzip stuff too much so I need them extra cores

[inner depot]

thats bc u r Ward.

[fleet wraith]

I'm waiting on my new case to build my 9800x3d

[high quarry]

yeh, but because of its clock it does well to keep up with the 32 thread CPUs

https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/images/winrar.png

overall for compress/decompress its prob similar to 12900k

[wooden rapids]

Maybe I should upgrade to 9950X3D or the equivalent in near future, would benefit greatly the AW2725DF, 360hz oled

[glass vault]

i would say probably worth it if both CCDs get the vcache otherwise gaming a 9800x3d is better

[wooden rapids]

Hold your horses, the new structural update may fix the Dual CCD issues latency once and for all

[vocal horizon]

well the issue with the more than 8c x3d cpus is that only 1 ccd has x3d on it, so a 9950x3d is basically a 9800x3d but with 8 regular cores

[glass vault]

its the jack of all trades but a master of none. i got the 7950x3d and its good but not worth the premium for it. if you do enough produtivity then just choose a 9800x3d or the 9950x only time i would say do it is if you do both the same ammount

[vocal horizon]

and the 12 core one sucks even more cause it also has 2 ccds but they are both 6 core ccds so its the equivalent of a 6 core x3d part

[glass vault]

im gonna wait till the 10000 if they even call it that. but rumors i have heard is more density to around 12cores per ccd

[wooden rapids]

One CCDD at the time I know, but the 18 cores would benefit me

7950X3D was the worst of both world. Low clock speed and the whole dual CCD shenanigans 9950X3D shall be world class with OC potential and fixes

[glass vault]

its not the worst of both worlds. its not the best of any. also the low clock speed was for only one of the CCD

but i will say the new x3d platform does have a big ipc improvement with that .5ghz base clock can be nice. but turbo clock isn't as big of an increase

[mellow egret]

finally got my new RAM, time to see if this was the issue

[wooden rapids]

I just want my cores... and the gaming performance, Arrow lake was a trainwreck, so no intel this update. Z890 boards look amazing compare to what X870(E) have to offer.

[mellow egret]

32GB DDR4 3600 in 2x16 sticks. Swapped from 4 sticks of 8GB.

[glass vault]

arrow lake was gonna flow. both SMT removale & chiplet design at the same time too many variable changes for it to be good

[mellow egret]

now to wait like 2 months and then order 2 more sticks of 16GB

pretty sure S2 will be the only game I ever play to even get close to using that kind of memory

[glass vault]

i think it would be better to put that money towards a new platform 32gb is plenty. unless you doing produtivity

[vocal horizon]

escape from tarkov will like to speak to you

[mellow egret]

you know what, I really need to look into Tarkov now that I have a rig that can handle something like it
I honestly forgot about it amid grayzone warfare and bodycam

I have however heard the cheating is out of this world

[glass vault]

Tarkov cheating is also pretty bad

[wooden rapids]

it was disaster.
They cannot be manufactured in-house, Chiplet was supposed to be less complex to manufacture and yield higher.

[mellow egret]

wish I had the time to get back into milsim stuff for like ARMA but I work too much, Tarkov seems like it would be a bit of a time sink for not much gain too.

[glass vault]

Pretty sure they split their manufacturing from their CPU design. Not sure if they are also using a process that tsmc has but they don't due to regulations. Seems like they can produce 5nm but tsmc must have it better for yields

[wooden rapids]

Not capable economically, raptor lake was fine until it was hit with microcode issues. They did split but their foundry are still manufacturing nodes for them. Like how LG Display are manufacturing Display Panels for LG electronics to leverage lower cost. And they aren't capable of manufacturing their gpu in-house yet

[wooden rapids]

hwo is your VRAM usage so far?

[plucky quail]

They dont have there Fabs build that should have been making the Arrowlake. They are even skipping 2nm and going for 1.8nm cus they take to long for building the Fabs

[glass vault]

They are trying to get ahead of the curve. Tsmc and Samsung are planned to have 2nm by next year

[wooden rapids]

they might not be alive until then 💀, at least the foundry division. They are planning on selling 49% shares to rasie capital

[glass vault]

They are getting bailed out by the us government. To keep some domestic computer chip production

[wooden rapids]

Only good thing they have right now is XeSS upscaling

[wooden rapids]

Swear to god, if you mention TBTF...
An acquisition is happening, by whom? IDK

[glass vault]

No talking Chips act

[wooden rapids]

how bad is AFMF2?

[wooden rapids]

it just subsidizations and loans. it was handout to everyone, TSMC got some, but TSMC cannot manufacture their N2 nodes abroad.

[glass vault]

they haven't got the money so its still gonna happen. they most likely won't let the one domestic chip producer fall

[flat brook]

^ The US would likely turn on the money valve indefinitely to secure a reliable competitor to TSMC, domestically

[wooden rapids]

it is simply a consolidation/acquisition, Qualcomm was gonna foot the bill. Maybe even a PE gonna do it
In another note, did anyone try Stalker 2 on an ARM laptop?

took an hour to compile shader on my m2 pro mbp

[glass vault]

Qualcomm is dead. Lost arm rights haven't seen anything saying they got it back

yeah 60day notice starting in october

[wooden rapids]

lunar lake and Ryzen Strix AI already killed it

[glass vault]

what powers every android phone. hint snapdragon owned by qualcomm

[flat brook]

If apple lays off the chips, I don’t think QC getting back up is a reasonable projection for their future

[wooden rapids]

Desktop and laptop ffs

[glass vault]

their laptop scene was very new their android/mobile scene is what is currently/was funding the company

[wooden rapids]

they pratically own the modem chip

A18 Pro can theorically run Stalker 2

[glass vault]

still a much smaller market the phones

[wooden rapids]

apple exists, someone please port S2 to iOS, it's gonna be a funny tech demo for next year apple demo

[glass vault]

Android has more market share from what I saw rumor being and to take qualcomms place

[flat brook]

QC punching the roof if that happens

[wooden rapids]

A18 literally smokes 14900KS in single cores and equal to 9950X. I expect A19 Pro GPU to be godlike

[mellow egret]

6.8/8GB

[glad steeple]

is there a mod to balance out the damage received? I have an exo and 2 compass artifacts on me and they still do a ton of damage the only damage I can actually feel has been negated is the vortex bubble anomaly which I don't receive dmg from but other sources of damage still deal a lot like it's not working at all

[hard arrow]

modular hard mode´s mod by AniHVX

[mellow egret]

game is running perfectly. it had to be a bad stick of RAM, and I guess it was only getting used when my memory was starting to max out.