pc-specs

[vestal gate]

yeah it's something but hey at least it fixed something for ya I've died like 5-10 times now and I haven't had the fps drop thing

[naive hound]

im tryed tsr but im gonna try it again when i next go on

[marble harbor]

I tbh noticed something weird, idk if it's based on "realistic balistic bullet hitting the target badly because of distance", but, shooting from 80-70m a target, seems that when you hit them, it doesn't make the same damage as if you were close enough, has anyone else noticed this? I think it's intended however

[naive hound]

im stuck in the hole because the game wanted me to climb in there for a mission im just about to get UE editor to get myself out

[ember scaffold]

I mean, it would make sense, but only if the target you’re shooting at is wearing body armor. Then, the bullet would be slowed down more quickly since it lost some of the momentum. But in a case where your target is not wearing body armor, it shouldn’t make a difference

Unless you’re shooting pallets, which would lose most of the momentum, if not all at 80m

The thing about AA options in this game is weird though. I can only use XESS. If I use any other AA, I get heavy ghosting

And XESS suffers from pixelated gun light refraction, which is not cool at all

No AA is nice, but hurts my eyes at 4k

[wild dune]

noticed the same thing

[flat brook]

That’s intended. Projectiles lose energy over time in flight, some a lot faster than other

[glad tree]

what if I use a i9 9900k with a 4070super, what graphics may I approach with those specs, and of course 32gb of ram ddr4 3200mhz

rn I just want to play this game so bad, too much time waiting and my pc is not running it, I have to play it, at least next year. I will wait for you gsc, hoping that I could play this at high with a bit cheaper gpu. Love you all

[candid sequoia]

why fps on this game are so bad

runs good fora bit and then starts to drop

[icy anvil]

The first base is quite horrible for your fps

[cosmic jackal]

Most likely vram issue

[candid sequoia]

how you fix it?

im running a 4060 ti 32gb ram

i dont thinkl high settings should be an issue here

[dry merlin]

For what it's worth, my 3080 Ti, 32gb DDR4 RAM, and ryzen 5800X run 50-100 FPS at medium settings. DLSS on, no frame gen

[restive root]

Another day, another set of people with 8gb vram GPUs not understanding they dont have enough VRAM to play the game.

[dry merlin]

A friend with a 3080 Ti and an intel 14th gen CPU runs it on epic at like 80-100

I know it's not the same specs as yours but hopefully gives you some idea

[candid sequoia]

ya i know

they need to release an update to fix this issue

[glad tree]

Idk what cpu I can get, My motherboard is a Msi z370 a-pro the socket is 1151, and so I do not know how high should I go to make it run Stalker 2 in a enjoyable way, the I9 9900k is the highest cpu I can get, but to be honest I don't know if is it worth it or should I go for something cheaper

[restive root]

socket 1151 is 10 years old. its a dead platform. you gotta get a whole new pc

[pulsar turtle]

you should try it out yourself irl

[glad tree]

Guess It'll take more than a year

[livid mason]

any fixes for blue screen crashing when shader compilation on start

[glad tree]

So what should I build, the moment I got my PC I forgot of looking for news of pc technology, I know I can only keep my m2, my two HDDs and my PSU of 750w 80 plus gold. So what's next step

[restive root]

RIP. sorry to hear that.

[glad tree]

I tryna look it scenario in a good way, the I moment I'll be able to play it I'll find myself surrounded of mods idk hahhha

[raw sleet]

i liked my 9900k, but I had a mobo failure and that cpu isn't compatible with ddr5 boards; so i stepped up to 12th gen

[hybrid veldt]

just drop $1500 and get a pc that'll last the next 10 years

[last owl]

depends what your budget?

Personally, I would run a 4070 or 4080 with a newer ryzen an intel processor. but that would cost around $1600 for the pc at least

[flat brook]

Ahem

https://youtu.be/M-2Scfj4FZk?si=MQz4GLcBM2X3aybe

Follow the build above for peak PC performance.

[glad tree]

I'm up to go that expensive as I'm planning to buying everything step by step

[sullen lily]

It’s so slow😭

[hard arrow]

sadly its too old, its gonna be a big limitation ,but what you can do is maybe ... (5min later)
tried to made a budget for ya but that motherboard is BIG drawback, it doesnt even run with a i9 9900k which has less performance than my ryzen 5 5600g.
and im running a 3060 ti + ryzen 5 5600g currently my cpu is doing bottleneck for a 12% , not a big deal but given this information , you wouldnt be able to run even a 3060 + i9 9900k.
If you really want to keep that motherboard , you need to aim for RTX 2060 + i7 8700k.
And you could run the game with dlss low 1080p with some drops to 40fps on some towns or 1080p 80fps with frame gen.

[sullen lily]

I can’t even enjoy a cutscene…

[hard arrow]

game ask for top hardware to run, sadly, UE5.1 is not well optimized

[last owl]

real, the game crashes a lot around npc's for me

[sullen lily]

I’m on the opening cutscene

[hard arrow]

yea, so you need an ryzen 7800X3D + 4060

[hard arrow]

verify files on steam , maybe something is missing

[glad tree]

Perhaps I need to accept it, start with a new MoBo... so Ryzen is bulling Intel nowadays?

[hard arrow]

yes, im not keeping up with the latest news on CPU but from what i heard ryzen still is cheaper and runs faster than intel

[glad tree]

Well so, Ima do some research for my new PC in future

[flat brook]

AMD is currently at a really weird price point, not sure how it is over in the US, but Intel chips barring Arrowlake are actually cheaper at the moment. And due to lack of proper 3D v-cache utilization, performing better too.

Hopefully that changes soon, both for the pricing of Ryzen chips and their performance in S2.

[hard arrow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/syu5tp/all_300_motherboard_feature_set_and_general_use/ follow this guide for motherboards, chose S, or A motherboards only. or regret it

[runic shadow]

lack of proper 3D v-cache utilization
how do you figure

my 9800x3d seems to do very well in stalker 2

[flat brook]

Yes, but the 7800X3D is getting beaten by a 13600K. It shouldn’t The top 5 performers are predominantly Intel, 4/5, with the 9800X3D taking Number 1.

[last owl]

ryzen only runs faster than intel in certian performances. On average for gaming, you would want an intel processor bc it has faster single core speeds. If you were doing multi-core programs such as like video editing and stuff, it would run better. I run a Ryzen cpu, but I'm probably going to upgrade to an intel for my next set of upgrades

[flat brook]

https://imgur.com/a/hg2Yg11

@runic shadow This really shouldn’t be happening.

[last owl]

lmao no way it gets the same performance. that is actually insane

[late ferry]

jfpss has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hasty pilot]

What kind of game is this, in the final battle my game keeps crashing at 5 fps

every single time!!!

[hard arrow]

from what it seems, ryzen is ahead for a little bit https://youtu.be/Zue30tcu0mY

[last owl]

your pc is probably struggling to render in all the npc's. NPC's in this game are really taxing on the system.

V4n: really? I didn't know that. very interesting

[hard arrow]

also across all the generation of both cpus, ryzen achieves better performance for the same price than intel.

[hasty pilot]

1660ti, 5700x3d, 32gb ram

[naive hound]

very true npcs tank my fps

[runic shadow]

where is that from

[last owl]

its because from what I've seen and heard from modders, NPC's are linked to the cpu very heavily. For whatever reason they just eat all of the cpu's performance and it is what essentially killed A-Life within the game

[flat brook]

When everything is sold at MSRP, agreed.

Here in the EU currently, a 7800X3D will set you back anywhere from just over 500, to upwards of 650. Where as Intel chips of similar performance are nearly over 25% cheaper due to low demand and their latest “tomfoolery”

@runic shadow https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Stalker-2-Spiel-34596/Specials/Release-Test-Review-Steam-Benchmarks-Day-0-Patch-1459736/6/

[hard arrow]

it seems that 1660ti runs out of Vram in that part of the game, try shadow at low and lower the resolution a little bit using TSR and the graphical detail lower it to medium or high , so you solve that VRAM bottleneck

[naive hound]

so is A life being broken causing it or just A life as a whole?

[cosmic jackal]

Lmao bought this cpu like 3-4 months ago in Germany for 350€

[hasty pilot]

it's not the npcs. the scene itself doesn't have many npcs. the problem happens when you press the button on the monitors

[runic shadow]

Id be curious to see how these numbers change after the performance improvements of the first patch. Im doing benchmarks of my own for a side project, Ill be doing 5800x3d, 7800x3d, and 9800x3d. not entirely in the budget to look at intel atm though

[hard arrow]

it has to be something related to behavior system and npc actions.,,, which is not precisely a-life matter, alife more or less manages the macro part of the AI , while each individual npc manages the micro part of the AI (animations, dialogues, combat behavior, pathfinding in combat)

[hasty pilot]

here it uses 4gb of 6gb of vram... please... say something that makes sense instead of blaming the hardware.

[last owl]

I'm honestly not 100% sure, but I think its because a bit of both. Its proably like a self destructive cycle, but that is just a theory. All I know is that the NPC's killed A-Life due to them just existing, which killed A-Life

[flat brook]

I can always chuck in mine if you want more data, have several Intel systems still laying around, just need to swap out drives and clear/update drivers and firmware.

I expect the X3D chips to soar significantly if GSC picks up the ball on this. X3D chips are somehow underperforming by a significant margin.

[cosmic jackal]

Nvm just checked cpu prizes even the 9800x3d is above 600€ back when I ordered it. What's happening?lmao

[hard arrow]

well i was using a 1660 and i couldnt run the game , definetely could be either hardware + bad optimization

[last owl]

its definitely both for sure, the 1660 is just not enough for this game from what I've seen others who tried to run it

[runic shadow]

well I need consistent data is really the thing. clean install of windows, following methodologies etc. if you google ||comparebench|| youll see my project. I dont wanna advertise though

[naive hound]

also you can easily blame memory leaks for poor performance the memory leaks seems to be very impacting i've seen people go from 60 fps to 20-30 just from playing the game for 30 mins what isnt long at all

[flat brook]

When I bought my 13700K last year, the 7800X3D was 440, now it’s priced at 530 here. 13700K was 310.

Besides me doing more productivity than I do gaming, I just don’t see the necessity in spending that extra cash on an X3D chip for my particular scenario. Luckily that’s why we have plenty of choices in terms of hardware

[hasty pilot]

bro, i'm playing at 70 fps without frame gen.. how is it not enough? 😂

[hard arrow]

70 fps with that videocard? 720p everything at low?

[flat brook]

I have an NVME drive with a barebones copy of W10 specifically for data accumulation (For different purposes), I’ll see what I can do.

[last owl]

that is also true. even on my setup, at least every hourish the game just decides to become a slideshow, its really bad.

it could definitely be a combination of both things, again, I'm honestly just speculating

[naive hound]

personal experience but 40-50 FPS is playable thats without frame gen memory leak just seems to kill my fps almost instantly though after loading the game

[flat brook]

You might want to keep Process Lasso/Task manager open while you’re in the process of loading in, just to figure out exactly which type of memory leak it is

[hasty pilot]

1080p, tsr 65% low

[hard arrow]

i had a 1660 using 1080p tsr 60% low and it never got close to 70fps in the wilderness , plus 10 hours optimizing the engine.ini

[naive hound]

damn is your card overclocked? thats why then

[hasty pilot]

yes

[last owl]

ah ok that would explain things yea

[hasty pilot]

1660 ti is 30% faster with oc

[naive hound]

as much as i wanna learn how to overclock i wanna get my self a test rig for it

[hard arrow]

do you undervolt at least? i stay away from overclocking just to be safe

[naive hound]

honestly ive been recommended it but never actually tried it

[hard arrow]

undervolting is a miracle, less wattage use, less temp, better fps, better stability and completely 100% safe

[naive hound]

i got one fan on my pc so better temps is a huge thing for me

[hard arrow]

not only, that , you also increase the gpu life span

msi afterburn and watch a simple guide of undervolting you wont regret it

[naive hound]

luckily im building a new pc next year tryna get something with a 40 series and might go with amd cpu not sure yet though

[hard arrow]

good luck , bro

[naive hound]

Thanks dude

[timber wyvern]

im sure this has been asked a million times already, but is the frame drop in npc dense areas still an issue for many? i have a 2060, ryzen 7 5700x, and 32gb of ram and im still having issues with it

[last owl]

yup, it doesn't hit me as hard as it was, but it does still hit. sometimes for me even looking at an npc will crash the game

also upon a little bit of testing, the memory leak issues are seemingly V-Ram related, at least on my end anyways

[flat brook]

It’s still an issue for everyone that doesn’t have a very high end CPU, not sure when they’re planning on releasing the optimization patches

[last owl]

which shouldn't be the case bc I'll go from a smooth 60-70fps to a whopping like 10

[timber wyvern]

same here, i drop from like 10-8 when i avg around 60-70

[naive hound]

im running the same gpu with with a i5 10400 f and have exactly the same problem

[hasty pilot]

same here

[timber wyvern]

i dont get it man, my friend has a lower end cpu + gpu than mine and he hasn't had the issue since 1.0.1, hopefully it'll happen soon bc i have been enjoying the game

[naive hound]

is his overclocked by any chance?

[hasty pilot]

on mine it drops to 5 fps and stays stuck at 5 fps... it only comes back if I reset/load the save again (sometimes it doesn't) and by restarting the game

1660ti (oc) 5700x3d 32gb ram

[naive hound]

i have seen people recommending tsr for upscaling at 50 res and it might fix a memory leak from said people

[last owl]

yup same. thats the memory leak

[naive hound]

your overclock might have something to do with it only thing i could think

[hasty pilot]

The overclock makes the game crash more... but so far I don't see a problem, I can run at 70 fps and with frame gen up to 160 fps... the overclock has benefits and harms

If I use + 130mhz on the gpu core the game doesn't even open, it crashes on the loading screen

[timber wyvern]

i was actually entirely wrong lmao he has a ryzen 9 5900x, and its overclocked with a 1660ti. i thought that his was worse than mine

[last owl]

apparently, my game is being CPU bound just by existing so that's pretty neat

[hasty pilot]

5700x3d - 5900x have the same performace in games

[naive hound]

damn ngl its just depressing to hear people getting okay frame rates on this game while im just stuck here at 40-50 without npcs or ai around me and with ai around its at like 20-30 fps

[last owl]

damn, what specs are you running?

[hasty pilot]

try some mods at nexusmods

[timber wyvern]

i dont have the x3d just the 5700x, i am debating if i should upgrade my gpu or cpu soon tho

[naive hound]

2060 12gb with a i5 10400f and 16 of ddr4 ram

[hasty pilot]

'STALKER 2 Anti-Stutter Mod and Massive FPS Boost' - nexusmods (Grok approved)

[naive hound]

i've tried every mod and get simillar performace with most but i can give them another try maybe

[last owl]

damn, those specs aren't bad either

[hasty pilot]

Try the 'peak' file

[naive hound]

i know most modern games at like 120fps or more

[last owl]

I had the 2060 standard, but it only came with like iirc 8gb of VRAM and I was running it OC'd

[naive hound]

isnt that the one that makes your game into a patato basically?

[naive hound]

got mine as a hand me down from my brother

[hasty pilot]

this mod is a cut above the potato, it doesn't make the game so ugly

peak file

[last owl]

dude thats so funny, I gave MY brother my old 2060

[naive hound]

guessing i should move any other perf mod out of the mod folder before hand

[naive hound]

i overheated my 1650 like a month before it so he saved me so much money

[flat brook]

Yes, and undo any engine.ini tweaks if you’ve done those

[naive hound]

dont got no engine.ini tweaks atm

[flat brook]

Good to go then, never use more than one optimization mod/.ini file, they’ll conflict like mad and cause a whole host of unintended effects

[naive hound]

i just realised i've played both xbox gp and steam version and never once have i had a engine.ini folder generated

[hard arrow]

maybe he disabled lumen , when disabled the game looks horrible but gives you like +50 fps

[naive hound]

damn thats alot

[hard arrow]

alot of processing is happening with the lighting, alot of calculation for the lighting bouncing off materials into other materials

[hard arrow]

the game doesnt generate an engine.ini unless you do create it i think

[naive hound]

i dont care too much about graphics as long as it doesnt look like a ps2 game i just want stable performance

[naive hound]

i have seen people say it just generates but i think you have to force it too

[hard arrow]

it does looks bad, its looks really really bad, no lighting basically, interior look worst than a ps1 game

[naive hound]

i guess it shows how much devs rely on UE5 Tools and such in modern game development

[violet cobalt]

Might only be true for Steam version but that was the case for me

[naive hound]

weird question how far into the game are you becuase im stuck in a place and want to see if theres anyway of getting out before i use the UE dev tools currently softlocked myself i think

[hard arrow]

the thing is , the lighting is already handle mostly by UE5 because thats the thing UE5 promotes, baked lightmap is for other engines, you can still do it but its alot of work for something that lumen does better althrough at the cost of massive performance difference. The problem with lumen and nanite its not the technology itself but the implementation , it needs tweaking , nanite calculates subpixel quality for 10% to 20% of the images that its not able to be render anyways, meaning it wastes quality for things that doesnt produce any values. Its not a bad thing UE5 has a bad image also because not every game is on the latest version , 5.4 handles CPU usage much better

[naive hound]

ive seen a lot of people say 5.4 handles alot better

[hard arrow]

if UE5 increases the performance optimization in the near future, its bound to be the best engine for the next 5 years, its the only thing missing

[hard arrow]

thats something related to bugs, programming bugs mostlikely , the game is too dynamic and lots of validations are happening for many scenarios, like baldur gates 3 it was a complete mess day 1 , needed some patch to solve critical quest bugs

[naive hound]

i've looked everywhere seem like im gonna have to resort to UE dev console mod

first time i've been softlocked my entire playthrough

[hard arrow]

sucks, im very early into the game , i started the playthough with 1660 i couldnt enjoy it, bought a new gpu and now im restarting the game to experience it correctly from 0

[naive hound]

out of all places i stuck in a hole a big one

for my pc build next year gonna try see if i can get a 4070 on black friday for mid 400's ofc i have no money rn so couldnt do it if i wanted 😔

[hard arrow]

what you have right now ?

[naive hound]

2060 its not bad but i need to future proof my pc to be honest with you im seeing a lot of modern games are starting to struggle

[hard arrow]

wait for the next generation to come on RTX 50 , i think its not too far away maybe february, then prices from RTX 40 will drop, people will sell them used too . then buy a RTX 40 series which most likely will keep up with RTX 50 for a small performance margin . profit. ?

[naive hound]

honestly i dont know how much better gpus can get now lol seems like nvidia are really reaching

i really hope this mod doesnt get rid of acheivements

[hard arrow]

they dont , they go up in performance by 10% or 20%.

[last owl]

idk it still can go pretty far, we've still just really only hit the tip of the iceberg with performance. I'm sure in another 10 years things are gonna be even crazier

[naive hound]

by the time i by the 4070 next year 50 series should drop meaning i can get it cheaper

[hard arrow]

and from a business point of view, if you are nvidia: why sell a card that doubles or triples the performance of your last generation when you can just sell a new gpu that only has a 20% performance improv?

[last owl]

because then you can make it 500% more expensive :3

[naive hound]

i mean as if most of the 40 series arent overkill enough

i mean i dont know if i say its overkill for modern gaming standards considering performance in most games

[hard arrow]

then nobody will buy it but rich people, who represents 1% of the population or less , and AMD wins the market by stablishing a foothold across the whole gaming community

[last owl]

idk people still bought the 4090, and Nvida has plenty of cards on the market

[hard arrow]

prices are more of less relatives even for 4090, but if a company creates a super gpu with 500% performance diference to other gpus and sells it for 5000usd, nobody will buy it

[naive hound]

i cant be the only one who has used UE dev tool to unsoftlock themselves right?

[last owl]

true not for 5k, but I'm sure if they priced it around 1.5k ppl would still buy it

[raw sleet]

nvidia make the bulk of their money on datacenter AI now.. they can just about give away GPUs and not even feel it.. or they could abandon the gaming market entirely for AI and crypto sales

need more real competition in the GPU space, especially now that AMD is backing down from high tier GPU's

[hard arrow]

not to mention , you will need a super CPU along with that super GPU just to not bottleneck it, so you also need a super powersuply and a super motherboard to handle that level of processing, and then you sell that rig for 30.000 usd

[last owl]

100% agreed, especially in the high performance areas. it would be really cool to have a rival for nvidia products. Although tbh I don't think that will happen anytime soon just due to Nvida having insane AI integration with their products

[raw sleet]

the other problem is TSMC is the only real place to fab

[last owl]

also very true

[ember scaffold]

The opening cutscene ran for me in less than 30 fps and I’m on a 13600k and 7900xtx. Performance starts improving a lot from the moment you step foot into The Zone. It could have just been a bug from my end though, but I’m not sure.

[hollow nexus]

gaming market will probably crash if studios keep pumping out unfinish crap. 1983 all over again, hopefully

[sand nimbus]

Yes

[ember scaffold]

Too big of an industry for this to happen. Gaming has only become more and more popular and there will be no decline in popularity. However, the quality of games is starting to drop. Most gamers don’t care though. Most people play old games. There are even people that wait 2 years before playing any new triple A game. We are in the minority here. Almost nobody plays UE5 games or any other type of graphically demanding games.

[raw sleet]

i certainly won't blindly buy anything with UE5 from now on, that's for sure (not until I have hardware that will run it native 4k no upscale min 120fps)

[hollow nexus]

AAA will crash. Indies are cooking... only real innovation comes from them nowadays. Maybe sometime AAA will realize actual gameplay matters more than pretty graphics

[ember scaffold]

That’s debatable, since loyalty is a big factor in sales. Sony could release a complete piece of crap rn, and more people will buy that than the total amount of people that bought Stalker 2 Heart of Chernobyl

[hollow nexus]

true... stupidity knows no boundaries.

[sour nacelle]

Wasn't that just proven untrue with the Concord situation

[ember scaffold]

The thing is, it only leads to these companies not caring and releasing unfinished products

[ember scaffold]

Concord was a copy of Overwatch. Even if you forced people into playing it, they would still get bored

[sour nacelle]

I disagree. If they did a good job with it then people would play it forever, look how popular Overwatch was and for how long during the first installment

All it really takes is semi consistent content updates and a competitive nature to the game to keep it alive, another example being CSGO

[ancient jacinth]

i'm getting 2 fps stuttering so much after launching in the game wth?

[raw sleet]

"We gotta get it out NOWWWW! in time for Christmas!!1!" So they leave it unfinished, unoptimized and full of placeholder bullshit. Before long after that the check writers tell them to dump it in the bin of history.

[sour nacelle]

I personally would still be playing Overwatch 1 with my friends if we hadn't already mentally checked out of Overwatch and could duo queue tank lol

[raw sleet]

specs?

[ancient jacinth]

rtx 2070, 8gb vram ryzen 7 2700 x 8 core 16 threads, 500 gb ssd, 2 tb hard, 16gb memory 2600 mhz, like almost 6 years old this machine

[raw sleet]

i can't speak for that CPU but the 2070 is gonna have a bad time.. this is how it runs on older gen hardware, sadly (i have a 2080ti and I gotta run it in a 1080p window locked to 60)

[ancient jacinth]

yeah i'd figured

[long ravine]

Hey sorry to ask in here but do any of you all have a save file that is roughly mid story (Ad Astera per Aspera or somewhere similar)? I just lost about 30 hours of progress when my PC crashed lol

[hollow nexus]

what happened to your saves?

[long ravine]

Had one long 15hr session, when the game crashed, it wiped all saves from that session and gamepass didn't update them. When gamepass came back online it wiped over my local data

[hollow nexus]

the game autosaves constantly
oof just read the gamepass thing... that's weird and sad 🇫

I don't ahve a midgame save unfortunately... progressing very slowly since I quickly run out of patience having to reload the game every 15 minutes because it sinks to 5 fps

[hybrid veldt]

you have frame gen on?

[hollow nexus]

Has there been any recognition by GSC so far of the 5 FPS death freeze? There's 100% some code bug that is pegging the GPU with low complexity tasks.

[sand nimbus]

Yesnt, 100% gpu usage but low temperature is the gpu fallback that happens after vram miss allocation

[sand nimbus]

Real

[tepid steppe]

If only we could flush out vram

Noticed I don't get stutters almost at all (less than second) when all low and using stutters fix engine base. I can have quite stutter free with everything medium but hanging around bases causes them to appear in few minutes of running around, seems like vram gets full even if it's showing only 5,1gbjusage with 6Gb it's out of vram

[raw sleet]

what res you running at?

[sand nimbus]

I think you can disable gpu fallback but I wouldn't tbh

But this is exactly what causes the fps to go single digit, unless unreal engine itself has some fallback

[tepid steppe]

The cuda setting at Nvidia CP?

[tepid steppe]

1080p laptop 5600h 32, 3060 6gb

[pine crescent]

Which Fullscreen setting is best for performance?

[raw sleet]

that's pretty good considering; hows fps?

[coral token]

saw a video of benchmark with 4070s same settings as me and dude was getting worse performance

[coral token]

I'd say exclusive but you can't alt tab then so I use borderless myself

[high quarry]

new Intel GPU reveal in 5h

[raw sleet]

battlemage?

[high quarry]

yeh

[raw sleet]

I hope that division isn't going to go anywhere now that the CEO is retiring

[high quarry]

Will prob be up to whoever replaces him, yeh

Intel might take drastic steps to cut low/no profit programs

[raw sleet]

Yeah, they've already let a lot of people go.. 2000 or more folks now looking for work

[high quarry]

As for battlemage itself, I am hoping for 16GB, $399, competing properly with 4060 ti

because they will prob end up at $300

[spare coral]

I might actually end up buying battlemage cards if the leaks are true

[high quarry]

Unless they pull some big surprise and compete with 4070 at $449

we have to wait until Jan 7th for official AMD and NVIDIA GPU news

[raw sleet]

nvidia 50series msrp's will be what influences me.. if they're gonna be greedy pigs then yeah, bailing out from team green

[high quarry]

You are wondering if NVIDIA/AMD are gonna be greedy... 😁

[south nexus]

cant believe i just fixed this starting shiet https://imgur.com/a/booLvub and all my stuttering just buying a new ssd

[raw sleet]

AMD probably not so much and they're ditching the high tier gpu space.. not as bad as moneybags nvidia with the billions they getting from AI

[high quarry]

Yeh, they are both bad, NVIDIA is just far worse.

AMD will continue to price up to whatever they can get away with, with their lack of market share.

[raw sleet]

and then you take into account their purposely low inventories, scalpers worse than ticketmaster adding x2 to msrp.. f' that noise

[high quarry]

and then everyone goes and buys 8GB 5060's because of it

at 40-60% more than they should rightfully cost still

[raw sleet]

/smh yeah.. 12-16gb vram should be the absolute minimum now

[high quarry]

60 series should be 12, 70 should be 16, 80 should be 20, then who cares above that

[raw sleet]

I wonder if the top end 50 series will do any of that nvidia ACE stuff.. that noodle shop demo was honestly pretty cool

[high quarry]

It would be nice in games like Cyberpunk

[crisp latch]

LowLevelFatalError [File:D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Util.cpp] [Line: 880] CurrentQueue.Device->GetDevice()->GetDeviceRemovedReason() failed at D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Submission.cpp:910 with error 887A0006

If anyone have this crash disable hardware aceleration on windows solve it

[nocturne tundra]

7800 XT coming today, can’t wait to be able to play this game at decent settings now

[charred sand]

Morning all

[tame ermine]

I’m still shocked the rec specs say 32gb ram

[charred sand]

IKR

man the bloodsuckers really scare the hell outta you, i nearly needed clean pants

[minor hatch]

I don't know if this is the right channel.. but does Stalker 2 1080p look good or is it too blurry ?

[tame ermine]

Looks good

[minor hatch]

Thanks

[charred sand]

Depends on the upscaling I think

[lilac spindle]

Ryzen 7 5800X RTX 3070 is running fine but lots of stuttering maybe because im on 3440x1440p?

Not a spec nut tbh…

[steel geyser]

Might be vram

[lilac spindle]

I got 32Gb DDR4 and 8 on the card

[dire sorrel]

Definitely vram. I have a 3070 and at 1080 vram hovers over 7000MB

Maybe drop texture quality a bit to free up vram

[austere gorge]

are you running DLSS on performance with frame gen on? Im getting 90-100 on a 3060 ti ryzen 7 3700x

[lilac spindle]

Might try that thanks trying to get a solid 60fps as I hate under that haha

[lilac spindle]

Yes I am

[austere gorge]

maybe try the s.2 optimization mod from nexus, using it currently and I get frame drops in towns, but im getting good solid frames 90% of the time. Game also just has optimization thats kinda poor

[brisk plaza]

running at 5120 x 1440p at high settings with dlss on quality the game is running 99% fine but the vram leaks is whats causing problems currently it seems to be happening around npcs

[slow axle]

hello, i am experiencing frequent lag spikes which drop my fps to 0 for a few seconds, is this possible due to me having 16gb ram?
my specs:
5600x
3060 12gb
16gb ram

playing on 1440p high-medium settings
except the spikes, i run the game at around 75fps

[static fractal]

Hello,

I play on Ryzen 5 7600 + RX 7900 XT + 32 GB RAM at 1440p. Game is running smoothly however I am encountering pretty frequent crashes (IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL, PC freeze and hard reset, restarting PC, etc.) is it most probably due to optimization and not yet released drivers from AMD or should I also look for the issue elsewhere?

[static fractal]

If those lag spikes are near inhabitated areas I guess it is generating NPCs

[slow axle]

those lags happen anywhere, not limited to settlements

[austere gorge]

Could upgrade the ram for sure, but I think you'd be better off by changing resolution to 1080

[slow axle]

my monitor is 1440, i dont know how could i do that without the game going ugly and off-scaled :/

[static fractal]

maybe lowering details or trying to render at 1080p instead of 1440p as proposed by @austere gorge

[old light]

I get the same thing, game just freezes and everything stops for 5-10 seconds before getting back on track but i've got 96Gb of ram on my workstation so i don't think 16Gb of ram is to blame.

[austere gorge]

Lower details, make sure the DLSS is on Performance and FSR is on below that, Turn motion blur strength all the way off too

[brisk plaza]

Could use dlss also on quality 1440p is 900p I believe

[coral token]

Which version of amd adrenalin you have

[austere gorge]

Verify file integrity just in case. Had the same issue

[slow axle]

how can i change that? I am using Dlss upscaling on Performance or Balance, and frame generation is turned on

[static fractal]

Latest one so 24.10.1

@austere gorge Already did that and also reinstalled PC so I am fully sure

[coral token]

Did you fully DDU any previous drivers also what PSU you have

[static fractal]

indeed last time (after reinstalling PC) I also tried DDU in safe mode + drivers from AMD site once more

EVGA GOLD 1000W

@austere gorge totally random

[austere gorge]

It'll be in the graphics settings, just scroll through the detail and lower it as you feel.

@static fractal Is there anywhere specific that it's happening at or is completely random based on the actions you make? No other programs running at the same time?

[slow axle]

arent DLSS and FSR mutually exclusive?

[flat brook]

Check windows event viewer to see if an executable is causing it, if it isn’t being caused by an executable, faulty memory is also a possibility

[brisk plaza]

Maybe try to monitor the performance

[austere gorge]

to nividia cards yes (I believe, could be wrong)

[hearty pollen]

Typically, but this game has some really strange solutions. Dlss and AA Is under the same category/setting

[brisk plaza]

It’s probably vram leaks again though

[slow axle]

Also my SSD drive is pretty old and slow now, could that be the case?

[brisk plaza]

My game drops to around 7 fps when it starts leaking memory

[austere gorge]

Do you have issues with other games or only this one? If there's issues with other games, def the ssd

[coral token]

how old is your PSU I mean I had EVGA Gold 1000W was specifically G1 version fail on me in past

[hearty pollen]

Eeeh, not really unless it's actually faulty and acting up. Or you experience the same issues in other games

Btw , not a bad idea to keep up with firmware updates on your ssd regardless

[brisk plaza]

Also check if you are cpu bottlenecked in stalker

[static fractal]

Event Viewer is not my forte so I am not sure what to look for exactly or better say where to look for it 😄

@coral token so far no problem... it is +-2 years old G6 revision

[charred sand]

Literally upgraded my cpu today because of this

[hearty pollen]

Everyone is, given the current state of optimisations. This suggestion needs a broader definition to make sense.

[brisk plaza]

I had horrendous performance since I was cpu bottlenecked

[slow axle]

additional info for the issue, when my fps drop to 0 so does the gpu and cpu usage, i dont know if it clears anything up

[charred sand]

the ms latency is a killer in this, 60-70ms

[hearty pollen]

Yes, ofc. But also my 7800x3d struggles in cities on this game. While it's not last gen, it runs circles around 95% of anything available on the marked in games.

[flat brook]

Windows Event viewer > Windows logs > System and application, then check the description on anything that displays a red triangle/critical error message. Look for either a driver name or program executable.

[charred sand]

I upgraded to a 5700x3d, was bottlenecking previously

[hearty pollen]

Yeah, my point is that this game is so insanely taxing the term bottleneck is starting to become the norm.

[brisk plaza]

Currently for me the only problem is the vram leaks

[charred sand]

I'm assuming the latency making it look choppy is down to the game itself

[brisk plaza]

If you are running with frame gen your base fps matters a lot

[charred sand]

Without frame gen it's horrid

[marble harbor]

who allowed this video, oh my god xDD

[brisk plaza]

What gpu do you have

[charred sand]

4070 Super

[flat brook]

We call it a bottleneck because the CPU gets so overloaded with calls that it ends up slowing down the main render thread, thus not allowing the GPU to be fully utilized in those instances. This has the same effect as a CPU bottleneck, despite it not actually being the CPU that’s bottlenecking the card.

[brisk plaza]

I have a 4070ti you should be getting similar performance to me the game runs perfectly fine

[flat brook]

The Verge

[hearty pollen]

Yes, that's why we need to be rather clear on what we mean by bottleneck in this context, considering everyone is currently bottlenecked, albeit by different levels.

[brisk plaza]

I don’t have a x3d cpu btw I have a 5800x

[charred sand]

Yeah but, what's your res/refresh rate?

[hearty pollen]

I've seen a increasingly number of reports of x3ds having issues, so I'm suspecting this might be my case too. Really odd but

[brisk plaza]

5120 x 1440p so almost 4k 240hz I’m running on high settings with dlss on quality and frame gen on

[hearty pollen]

Jesus christ, on a 4070ti? That's wildly impressive.

[charred sand]

Lemme try these settings, I'm at 1440p 165

[brisk plaza]

It would be impressive if the game didn’t leak vram after playing for a while

[high quarry]

The lumen cache and spacing doesn't really care much about your resolution, so you always have that overhead before you scale up. That being said, all the screen space effects are incredibly heavy, so fps scales rapidly with screen res.

[keen prairie]

people if you play on steam make sure to make a backup folder of your game i nearly lost 50 hours

[static fractal]

one of the errors

Windows cannot load the extensible counter DLL "C:\WINDOWS\system32\sysmain.dll" (Win32 error code The specified module could not be found.).

others shows mostly that secure boot is turned off

[coral token]

ah fair enough so not same version as what I had but I changed it back then for Corsair HX1200i the one with blue lettering and that PSU has been going strong since

[static fractal]

Corsair is corsair ❤️

[charred sand]

The compling shaders every launch

[high quarry]

You can vastly reduce the settings and gain 25-50fps, but the biggest difference I have seen is always with res/upscaling.
i.e this is config generator Very Low with FSR Quality

https://i.imgur.com/opC9S3g.jpeg

[flat brook]

X3Ds are not performing as well as they should, whether this is due to a lack of proper 3D V-cache utilization is uncertain. But in CPU benchmarks for S2 specifically, the 7800X3D gets surpassed by the 13600K, and the 7950X3D gets surpassed by the 7700X…

[charred sand]

I get 120 fps and latency of 76 :/ because of the latency it doesnt feel 120

[coral token]

what I've heard they cooperate with one japanese capacitor company for long time and older ones were made by them

oh wait not Japanese Taiwanese SuperFlower

[flat brook]

Run PowerShell as admin

Type in : sfc /scannow and let it run, feel free to ping me with the results

[coral token]

but EVGA has been using them too

[high quarry]

Yeh, you can just straight up buy Superflower Leadx

[static fractal]

I have already tried that but I will try it once more I usually run 2 other commands (DISM) afterwards

@flat brook finished
Beginning system scan. This process will take some time.

Beginning verification phase of system scan.
Verification 100% complete.

Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.

[high quarry]

I think this is their latest 1KW plat https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FVXV3C/super-flower-leadex-vii-platinum-pro-1000-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-1000f14xp

[hearty pollen]

While low performance is one, I've seen (while anecdotal) a increase in issues/crashes/stuff like that with x3ds.

[high quarry]

I have no issue with the latest x3D, I dont become CPU limited until much higher fps.

[hearty pollen]

9800x3d I assume?

[high quarry]

yeh

with framegen on, and nuking graphics settings or res stupidly low, get CPU bottlenecked between 350-500 fps, depending whats onscreen/nearby

[hearty pollen]

To be fair, in mostly fighting the vram memory leak issue, and to some extent ram memory leak issue. Which is regardless of the rest of the bunch of issues

[high quarry]

completely stripping graphics down here, CPU bottlenecked at 400 fps
https://i.imgur.com/6n9001n.jpeg

Crushing resolution down to 10% (i.e 144p), CPU bottlenecked at 500+
https://i.imgur.com/oirl5bO.jpeg

[charred sand]

Why are you getting the fps that high when you fresh rate is much lower

[high quarry]

I just uncapped to 999

not that it would ever go that high, hard limit seems to be around 550

but you can do 'potato' quality settings without stripping everything away: https://i.imgur.com/42V5AMq.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/Ol945F0.jpeg

More potato at native 1440p https://i.imgur.com/e2Sun26.jpeg

in a settlment with potato: https://i.imgur.com/FfrQMMF.jpeg

[coral token]

Which windows you run?

[coral token]

Wait is this with lowest settings?

[high quarry]

Its 2 levels lower than in-game Low.

[coral token]

Looking like OG stalker lol

[high quarry]

Generator has presets for Potato, Very Low, Low, Epic so far.

Tonight I can have a go at, Medium, High, Very High, Ultra, Insane.

[signal quiver]

Vanilla gang ftw

[ebon epoch]

I'd like to fiddle around with settings and optimize my game but I'm at a loss

[high quarry]

https://github.com/ColesyM/S2SettingsGenerator/releases

[ebon epoch]

'cause my go-to is to lower light and shadows and stuff like AO, but I really really like the lighting in this game.

[coral token]

What I find interesting on FSR NativeAA I get 100 fps on quality closer to 200 at 1440p all epic settings

[high quarry]

all the graphics settings exposed there, that are hidden behind the ingame presets

[ebon epoch]

so I feel like if I took out stuff like effects and illumination, which is what I usually do, it'll take away from the experience.

[high quarry]

This happens when you have a fill rate limited GPU, so it scales fast with res.

[winter briar]

It runs just fine on my 2060 super

[ebon epoch]

I've already been fiddling way more than I feel comfortable with but it's been mostly just presets and supersampling, don't want to add individual settings to the mix

[coral token]

Other thing is frame time is usually 5-7ms at most seen it go to 15ms

[high quarry]

15 would be a drop to 66fps

[coral token]

GPU is running 96-99% CPU 55-60%

[ember scaffold]

You’ll still get light shafts. You can’t really make it worse as long as you keep global illumination on medium. However, shadows are a big problem. Environmental shadows set to medium render 2 feet in front of you, resulting in a lot of soft shadows in front of you that pop into sharp shadows as you get closer to them

[coral token]

1% lows are usually around 140 in hubs drops to 100 with some spikes below that

[static fractal]

Windows 11 24H2

[high quarry]

if you arent CPU limited you should be able to do 1080p, FSR Performance/UPerf at 300 fps 🙂

[coral token]

I'm on Windows 10 I refuse to get that bloatware 11 lol

[high quarry]

Not that you would want to play like that of course.

[coral token]

My monitor is 1440p 29" 165hz

[static fractal]

tbh I was also thinking of moving onto 10 once more cuz that 11 is not best not worst but not yet fully fixed 😄

[high quarry]

If you enable the in game console (mod), you can set whatever screen percentage you want, and not be limited to FSR Q at 67%,
around 80% works well, or 77.77 if you want to res align

[ember scaffold]

I average 10 fps less on Windows 11 in most games when my fps is above 150, with the exception of specially optimized games for Windows 11, like Alan Wake 2

[ebon epoch]

"I use windows [version], I don't need that bloatware windows [version + 1]" - Every windows user, ever.

[coral token]

Just return to latest win 10 and ride or die with it till end times as its better

[high quarry]

F10 for console (with mod)
r.screenpercentage 80

[ember scaffold]

This has been true ever since Windows 98. Fr

[coral token]

I'd go back for 7 if my cpu would support it lmao

[high quarry]

you cant set that in .ini, must do it in game.

[coral token]

But lack of DX12 is why I don't tbh

[wintry needle]

I stayed on 7, bypassed 8, 8.1 and 10, and turned my back on Windows when they pulled the plug on 7

[coral token]

10 compared to 8 and 8.1 is closer to 7 tbh

[ebon epoch]

Consistently getting this when speaking to Borodin on the king of the hill quest:

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x0000000000000004

[high quarry]

Nope, I stay on latest stable. I pay attention to the kernel speed improvements and learn how to make stripped installers and optimize.

[fading stone]

how do you play s2, w10 is req

[wintry needle]

We are approaching the part where you buy the components but your OS maker effectively declares that it's not your PC but theirs

[ember scaffold]

Is it true Windows 11 laptops don’t let you turn UEFI booting off in bios? Resulting in being unable to install old OSes? I believe that all desktop UEFI motherboards come with the option for Legacy mode and CSM support

[high quarry]

some laptops BIOS are very locked down, yes

[coral token]

Desktop does need to check my win 11 laptop maybe can on it

[wintry needle]

I'm on linux, using a translation layer called VKD3D that makes linux understand DX12

[coral token]

Which Linux is actually good version?

[high quarry]

Has anyone tried DLSS on AMD on S2? (DLSS-Enabler)

[fading stone]

linux huh? why not steamOS in that case, you migh as well hop in as much game compatibility you can get

[coral token]

Haven't tried that now am curious can you dm it to me

[high quarry]

DLSS-Enabler

[coral token]

I tried every option of the AA so far FSR been best

[ebon epoch]

lmao have fun getting scammed by micro$$CAM charging you to take away features 🤣 🤣 🤣 ||I'm kidding||

[coral token]

Followed by TSR

[wintry needle]

SteamOS is Linux 🙂 in fact my system barely differs from genuine SreamOS

[high quarry]

If they charged me more for 11, I wouldnt be on it 😄

[ebon epoch]

Like I legit remember people saying 98 was a scam to fleece users and 95 was just fine

[coral token]

Win 11 actually did take away features

[ember scaffold]

I did it normally. I can use DLAA and DLSS on my 7900xtx, because I also have a RTX 2060 Super as my second GPU. From my experience, it’s the same ghosting mess as on fsr, but the game does look a bit sharper when upscaling, and performance is 1-2 fps better with DLSS.

[high quarry]

I just keep moving my windows Pro key along with my builds, now on 24H2 using same old key on new CPU, Mobo, RAM

[coral token]

I mean 95 98 if not mistaken NT and then XP followed by 7 and 10 have been better ones

[ebon epoch]

they've been taking out features forever. 1.0 was feature complete and it's been downhill since.

it's like 40k, every new OS is just a pale imitation of is gloriuth forebearers

[coral token]

When are we gonna initiate rites to please machine God

[high quarry]

I set up a laptop recently (no OS), put Win 11 Home on it, which obviously doesnt cost anything, expecting the Activate/Watermark, but it wasnt there. I t just activated. I wonder if that hardware had a key tied to it, even though it was sold with no OS.

[coral token]

If I recall win 11 home was given for free pro version isn't

[ember scaffold]

If you connected with the same Microsoft account, it auto activates

[wintry needle]

Yep, stored in the BIOS

[flat brook]

The c-consciousness could learn a thing or two from the Adeptus Mechanicus

[high quarry]

no MS account

[ebon epoch]

sigh I guess I'm paying off that quest.
pay2win for shame gsc

[coral token]

Just shoot the shit out of Varran lmao

[ebon epoch]

or that

[coral token]

I went and killed all of them tbh

[ebon epoch]

if anything, the humongous piles of medipacks and food you get from just playing easily translate into piles of coupons as well

[coral token]

Bro I went to NPP reactor side and got that cuirass exo me go gunfight pop exo on and they barely do anything to me lol

[high quarry]

I might add in my own 'balanced' preset to the top list.. https://i.imgur.com/tPTABw9.png

[coral token]

Haven't even fully upgraded it to be able to run doesnt matter I run this duty set I bought other times as it's pretty good for minor scuffles

We have no join factions sadly yet

But I sense my stalker will remain a loner lmao since am pissing off almost everyone

[ebon epoch]

I'd personally appreciate something based on medium that can keep the performance of medium but that is optimized to make it look better if that's a thing.

like ynow microing the individual settings so as to accentuate the stuff that makes it look better and dial down the stuff that isn't as important

[wintry needle]

There are endless discussions about this, which basically all boil down to "what do you prefer?"
Stability? Fedora
Bleeding edge? Arch
User friendly? Mint (this is misleading because these days all of them are user friendly, but Mint is the closest to the "Windows experience")
Gaming is priority? Try Garuda or Bazzite

[ebon epoch]

my computer is holding out for dear life but at least I know on medium preset at most I'll have to switch dlss from quality to balanced if it gets a little hitchy

but the problem is that dlss often likes to just dump settings and suddenly the game looks like crap

[high quarry]

You could try something inbetween, like FSR 63%

Better res than Balanced, but lower than Quality

[ebon epoch]

I'm trying TSR at 80% and it works well so far but I know once I get in a town it's gonna tank in all likelihood

[high quarry]

80% is still pretty high

[ebon epoch]

yeah my rig can just handle no supersampling at 1440 outside of towns. Maybe not constant 60 but it can handle it pretty well

[high quarry]

https://cdn.thefpsreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/amd-fidelityfx-super-resolution-nvidia-dlss-resolutions.jpg

[coral token]

I'd say one that's good for productivity and gaming

[ebon epoch]

I like TSR 'cause both quality and scaling are independent and manual. It just kinda sucks at the more performance oriented stuff, quality really takes a hit.

[high quarry]

Yeh, TSR is very temporal, which means it settles into a stable image when not moving. However it is more prone to ghosting and grainy noise.

[coral token]

One thing I don't understand about FSR is why it sets it to 66%

[crisp latch]

is there any way to solve memory leaks?

[high quarry]

because thats just the preset exposed.
Get the console mod and use r.screenpercentage and do 77

[coral token]

But it's not linear scaling from let's say 1440p to 1080p

[high quarry]

66.66..7% is just the scale factor of 1.5
77 is 1.3

[ebon epoch]

what memory leaks are you encountering? Are you getting an OoM crash?

[crisp latch]

no, after a while playing my fps goes to 5 or something very low, but there is no crash

[high quarry]

If you want true 1080->1440, use 75

[ebon epoch]

in settlements?

[crisp latch]

it happen on garbage and then it happen on Rookie village too

[coral token]

I mean I'd say upscale from true 1080 to the true 1440p would make more sense

[nocturne tundra]

GPU upgrade complete, let's hope the game is more playable

[ebon epoch]

what are your specs and settings?

[coral token]

What you went from to what?

[crisp latch]

i play on high with the frame gen of amd, game runs nice but i have this issue after a while playing, 2080 super and 9900kf oc at 5ghz

[high quarry]

or 1008 or 1152 - https://pacoup.com/2011/06/12/list-of-true-169-resolutions/

[nocturne tundra]

3060 to RX 7800 XT 16gb

[coral token]

Solid upgrade lad

[ebon epoch]

FSR 3 kinda craps the bed sometimes. It could be that. I personally recommend lossless scaling if you're going to use framegen, but either way I disable it 'cause it will eventually tank my performance one way or the other

[high quarry]

so 70% or 80%

[coral token]

Get 24.10.1 driver and should be good

[ebon epoch]

I'm skeptical of it being a "memory leak". Usually with memory leaks you get eventual crashes, but in my experience framegen is quite wonky performance wise.

[nocturne tundra]

thanks horse 🫡

[high quarry]

framegen has been rock solid for me, but I never run out of RAM or have stutters

[coral token]

Same here

[ebon epoch]

it can be that if you get into a place where your rig can't keep up framegen will only make things worse. I mean my rig is just about there in terms of performance for this game.

[high quarry]

Then new Zen 5 Epyc is a beast with 384 threads.

[spare coral]

I have stutters but not as bad as before
My ram and vram are pretty much maxed tho but the game has been more solid for me since the updates

[coral token]

If your gpu after AA is not pushing good fps frame gen will hurt

By good at least 60fps base

At most I see vram at 11-13gb ram from 10-20gb

[spare coral]

47+ fps at least to not get crazy input lag from my experience

[rare temple]

Want to turn off shader compilation? First off, make sure you've compiled then at least once. Also, if your GPU drivers get updated or a new patch comes out, you need to turn it back on after the update/patch and recompile the shaders. Then you can turn if off again after that.

Basically, modify the Engine.ini file. Depending on what platform you are on, you'll need to find it. It's either in the Widows or WinGDK sub-directory of thwe "Stalker2" folder:

%LOCALAPPDATA%\Stalker2\Saved\Config\Windows

Game Pass via Xbox App:

%LOCALAPPDATA%\Stalker2\Saved\Config\WinGDK

Edit the Engine.ini file and add the following:

[SystemSettings] r.PSOWarmup.WarmupMaterials=0

That should do it. Again, if your GPU drivers get updated or a new patch is sent out, you need to re-enable compilation and launch the game. After that, you can disable it again.

[high quarry]

never really see more than 9, but a bigger shader compile seems to eat up VRAM that it never properly releases. So a fresh game start after full shaders compile is a good idea.

[coral token]

Yup

Shader compile hurts tbh but even with it my PC does good lmao

[high quarry]

Yeh, dont turn off warmup on a fresh install/not yet compiled. You will get shader compile stutter moving around the world.

[ebon epoch]

the game seems to run on a pretty absurd overhead even in the main menu, from experience.

[spare coral]

I remember that the last of us part 1 on pc had a 40 minutes shader compilation each time you opened the game

[ebon epoch]

not quite a "leak" but certainly similar effect.

[high quarry]

it wouldnt hurt to have that menu scene as a static image on lower VRAM systems..

[slow axle]

could the shader warmup skip be the reason for lag spikes to 0fps on pc? i have compiled them previously already, but the environment seems to render pretty slowly

[ebon epoch]

having to load shaders on the go would probably cause hitching, yes.

[high quarry]

if something caused the previous cache to be invalid, yes. The compile will stall the render thread.

[slow axle]

okay, i might try to remove the mod then, the compiling time didnt bother me that much anyways

[high quarry]

Its unclear exactly which settings invalidate it, it doesnt seem to be 1:1 with the menu items that demand restart.

[coral token]

What's weird on 1.0 I had shader compile disappear itself didn't thinker with .ini lol

[errant tiger]

4060TI/4070/4060 + 5 3600 I know that the processor is a bit old, but it will work as an intermediate solution before upgrading to the 5700X3D?

[spare coral]

It will struggle but yeah

[high quarry]

one of the mod files for that in game console turns off shader warmup, I had to unpak it, take that line out, and repak it

[charred sand]

I had a 5600x and had bottleneck, upgraded to a 5700x3d today

[sage aurora]

Can i play with Rtx 2080 and 9800x3d with balance settings without frame gen?

[ebon epoch]

you will probably be able to play at medium with balanced dlss without framegen, yes.

[errant tiger]

It's better to upgrade the processor right away and then the gpu? I thought it was the opposite since it's more of a difference, but I'm not sure anymore.

[charred sand]

Ive heard its more cpu intensive than gpu really

[flat brook]

In its current state, S2 is extremely taxing on the CPU around NPC hubs. Meaning if you don’t want any framerate/frametime drops walking in and out of Rostok, you’re gonna need a pretty beefy CPU

[ebon epoch]

@sage aurora I would recommend a couple performance mods but otherwise you should be fine:

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/7
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/9

On stk2 read the readme to correctly place all three files.

With these two you should be fine on medium at 1440p with balanced dlss

[high quarry]

sounds like 60-70 fps

[sage aurora]

@ebon epoch thank you so much

@high quarry good for me i dont care 100 fps+

[errant tiger]

I don't actually have the amount for a 4070 gpu either, and the update from 2060 to 4060 doesn't make much sense on that I think the new processor makes more sense.

[high quarry]

if you can get 80+ though, framegen may be worth it. At 150+ input lag is not that noticable.

[graceful stratus]

whats your problem with frame gen

[visual lagoon]

does the 3D help with performance around NPC hubs?
cuz i got a 5700x and still run into less than desirable performance

[high quarry]

framegen feels a bit icky at 130fps or less

[sage aurora]

@high quarry if I get 80+ i will try then thank you

[charred sand]

For me it's the latency, it's too high and 60fps feels like 30

[high quarry]

but if you have 70+ fps before framege, def worth it IMO

[graceful stratus]

with 4070ti i use framegen and got stable 120fps on 165hz display

[charred sand]

But what's the latency?

[high quarry]

epic native would only be 100fps for me, so no go.

[graceful stratus]

is ok for me, i dont have any but i noticed the knife animation and hit got high latency

[charred sand]

See mines around the 70ms mark, which feels so choppy

[slow axle]

3060 12gb
5600X
16gb ram

could i run medium at 1440 without frame gen?

[graceful stratus]

can you make a short video about it?

[high quarry]

Run, yes. but I would guess around 50-60 fps with RAM issues.

[slow axle]

60 would be enough for me, im just trying to get rid of lag spikes

[tame ermine]

Like what

[tame ermine]

Did u get the cpu already ?

[lost summit]

Guys do you recomend any performance mode for stalker 2? With my r5 1600 af, rx 5700 and 32gb ram i only get 50-60 fps at low with fsr (performance) 1440p. 1080p isn't any better tho.

[finite garnet]

do you have some perfomamance mods installed?

[bleak adder]

where can i install the mods?

[finite garnet]

custom engine.ini worked for me, avrageing like 90 fps not on 2k with 2080 and 5950x

[bleak adder]

what about 1660ti?

[lost summit]

no

[sand nimbus]

Not worth it

[finite garnet]

I feel like 1660ti is not good enough, UE5 is not optimized tbh

[spare coral]

I feel like even with performance mods you wont get any better framerate
Your cpu is too weak for the game

[bleak adder]

then what about steam deck?

[spare coral]

Even worse than a 1660ti

[finite garnet]

Ive seen some videos and its runs quite badly on deck

[bleak adder]

then i cant play💀

[finite garnet]

sell the deck and buy like 20 series card Kappa

[spare coral]

What about the other specs

[lost summit]

My cpu sits on 35-40% usage all the time somehow

[bleak adder]

i will buy series s

[finite garnet]

same on 5950x, gpu is like 98% xD

I did some engine.ini adjustment so it utilized cpu more, gained like 10 fps maybe

[lost summit]

can you send me a vide or something for it?

[spare coral]

Check the ultimate engine from nexus mod for stalker 2
It worked for me

[finite garnet]

I can send you my engine.ini, try how that works.
I play with FSR and DLSS both on

[lost summit]

I have amd card

[finite garnet]

amd has also dlss type of thing, not sure what its named 😄

[lost summit]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/17
This?

[lost summit]

yeah, FSR

[spare coral]

Ye, just dont forget the change vram and stuff from the engine.ini according to your specs

[spare coral]

FSR

[finite garnet]

so run FSR Frame gen and FSR with the mod, should help alot

atfirst Frame gen messed with my mouse acceleration, but mods fixed that

[spare coral]

The mods made it a lot better for me too

[lost summit]

I moded gameusersettings with ultimate engine, what mods now?

[vague nexus]

Any advice to reduce suttering all the time? I7 14700k RTX 4070 super 32 gb RAM, i try some performance mod but was not enough 😢

[spare coral]

I think that should be enough tbf all the other mods basically change the same thing

[lost summit]

Should i turn on framegen?

[finite garnet]

yes, this is the fps saver

[finite garnet]

have you tried Frame Generation?

[lost summit]

I turned it of because before patch it made my game drop to 15fps and be stuck at that point

[vague nexus]

Yes and reduce stuttering not at all and give me input lag

[finite garnet]

is your mods folder called just "mods" or "~mods"

[vague nexus]

this: ~mods

[finite garnet]

I have worse setup and I can get solid 90+ with Engine.ini and one perf mode

on 1440p also

[vague nexus]

Can you tell me which engine.ini recommend to download?

Optimized Tweaks S.2 - Reduced Stutter Mouse Fix Improved Performance Lower Latency base version?

[spare coral]

Ultimate engine tweak is what worked for me the best

[lavish mason]

im really confused currently. I dont have amazing specs and my AMD Adrenalin software is claiming im getting around 237 fps average

[spare coral]

Thats great lol

[lavish mason]

and ive got my max frames limited to 150. so something is ..... odd

[vague nexus]

maybe amd performance better?

[spare coral]

Are you using framegen? Framegen usually ignores the cap

[lavish mason]

r5 5600 (non x) 32 gig ram radeon 6900xt. And yeah ive got FSR on

[fresh roost]

if you struggle with low latency with dlss + frame generation like I did, enable nvidia reflex boost and set ingame sensitivity to 0. Works like a charm

[finite garnet]

that also yes!

[vague nexus]

interesting

[spare coral]

It only limits the real framerate not the framegenerated one

[lavish mason]

that makes sense then

[flat brook]

Also, Enable NV Reflex in control panel, set Vsync to fast, run borderless. I personally use DLAA + Frame generation with a 13700K and 4070Ti-S, haven’t had a stutter since the first time I did some small tweaks in Zalissya

[wispy thistle]

any advice for nvidia users getting consistent crashes at quest cutscenes?

[lavish mason]

i believe the general consensus is its a skill issue?

[lost summit]

80-90 fps now. Thx guys. I think about switching FSR to quality or even native now

[spare coral]

Try quality first and tell us how it goes

[smoky totem]

Did you go to NVIDIA panel and under Manage 3D increase your Shader cache to at least 10?

[lost summit]

About same i will say.

||i monolith base or idk what it is||

But Native is to much. I think i will just change settings to medium with fsr quailty

[finite garnet]

I run DlSS quality, it does not look bad or different

[vague nexus]

runs good but still some stuttering on agroprom, maybe is my pc idk, i have all drivers up to date

[tough shell]

this is pretty much how I was running it getting around 100+ FPS but since one of the last two patches DLSS frame gen seems to be causing crashes

[flat brook]

You should keep an eye on your hardware analytics with something like RivaTuner. There could be a whole host of reasons, like automatic turbo boost, thermal throttling etc

[flat brook]

Damn, I’ve encountered only 1 memory leak so far in 90+ hours, but it wasn’t because of Frame gen, otherwise it should have happened a lot more.

It’s a shame how the game runs so inconsistent between setups.

[tough shell]

yeah I had literally no problems for like 40 hours prior so it's odd

was just trying to test different configs for the last bit and frame gen seems to be the only common variable so will have to do without for now, 4080 Super and 9950X for context but DLSS Quality vs DLAA made no difference

[vague nexus]

I will check this, i7 14th is hot but i don't reach the tj max, is like 70-86 those are "normal" temps to this cpu, but i need improve extract air cooler fans, so maybe is something about turbo boost

i will check with hwmonitor while playing to see any red numbers

[flat brook]

I would recommend locking your voltages at 1.35v for your P-cores, setting max short term boost wattage to 150W, and locking core ratio at 53/54x for all P-cores.

[flat brook]

You could also try 1.3V for all P-cores, but every chip is different and that might not end up being stable for you. I can run at 1.25V with a core ratio of 58x just fine however, the gist is that you want clock speeds and voltages to be stable and consistent, not jumping around the place dictated by load.

[minor sun]

Has anyone noticed performance drop after the latest patch compared to pre patch?

[vague nexus]

I will check this in gigabyte bios cuz i am pretty new in this topic

[vague nexus]

P core voltage is internal cpu vcore offset?

[flat brook]

Use Intel XTU, gives you a clearer oversight and automatically reverts changes should they become unstable.

Offset goes into positive and negative based off the default voltage. I.E if default voltage is 1.35, setting offset to 0.05 will make it aim for 1.4V.

But, setting core ratio to 53/54x for all P-cores and a -0.05v offset for them is already more than enough to get them running at a consistent speed and voltage.

[vague nexus]

All this changes can be made with XTU right? Important: I have a b motherboard

[flat brook]

Yes, considering your chip is unlocked, you should be able to set voltage offset to negative, core ratio to 53x and max short term wattage boost to 150W, even with a B690/790 motherboard

[vague nexus]

Core voltage offset is unable grey color cant change it

[flat brook]

What about power draw and core ratio?

[vague nexus]

Core ratio yea is in 43x

[flat brook]

Wow, that’s low. 43x? Not 53?

[nocturne tundra]

getting exception access violation now with new gpu installed, drivers and everything updated, it's happening while compiling the shaders first time around

[vague nexus]

Turbo boost short power is in 200w
Turbo boost power max 200w

[flat brook]

Remember, the 8 cores on the left are your P cores, those are the ones you want at 53x. The ones on the right are your E-cores, they can stay at 42x

[vague nexus]

I see better now p core section have 55x and 56x and the e cores have 43x all

[flat brook]

Bring that down to 150, I haven’t seen mine get pushed beyond 130W, even at 5.8GHz. The power draw and heat is not worth the negligible performance increase, and usually is detrimental during gaming sessions

[vague nexus]

Both?

[flat brook]

Alright, that all checks out then. Not sure what else could be going on. Do an hour of testing with RivaTuner performance overlay, keep an eye on your CPU average core usage and clock speeds/temps

[flat brook]

Short term and long term to 150W, yes.

[vague nexus]

Ok so p cores and e cores are ok?

[flat brook]

Yes

[vague nexus]

Ok I change those voltages I will test

I see that core voltage can’t be change because undervolt protection is enabled and will prevent voltage from being set below the boot-time voltage, so is something in the bios

Thanks for the help Ronin I will test and let you know 🙏

[nocturne tundra]

anyone know how to fix exception access violation error on shader compilation after a fresh re install of the game

[surreal flint]

Wanna know how good my pc is to run this game:

Cpu: intel i5-13600kf
Gpu: 4060ti
Ram: 32gb

[vague nexus]

Yes, i mean you can run it, some medium maybe high settings

[surreal flint]

Would I have any issues?

Ah my bad, didn't see the edit aha

[vague nexus]

The game has performance issues for many people, but definetly you can play it

[serene meteor]

No update yet?

[vague nexus]

2 until now, nothing today yet

[surreal flint]

Ah cheers, I imagine my cpu is holding me back the most right?

[serene meteor]

Yeah, im still with gpu memory and usage leaks

[vague nexus]

I run the game with a 12600k and works good in medium/high

and any mod performance will help

[surreal flint]

I have been playing on high but feel like I may need an upgrade. Was wondering if I was to upgrade, what would you recommend?

[vague nexus]

i feel the same with the i5 12600k / 4070 super, i upgrade the cpu and work better

but in your case i think is worth to upgrade the gpu, of course depends of your money

[surreal flint]

Oh damn really?

[vague nexus]

your have a great pc but the reality of this kind of game are so much demanding bc ue5

i will keep your rig tbh and wait the game get optimized, save money

[charred sand]

Yeah performance isn't great, I'm waiting for now

[vague nexus]

you can buy a m.2 storage, worth it, more faster process

[charred sand]

Won't help the game tho, loading times yes

[vague nexus]

Exactly, the game is just thing of devs

[surreal flint]

Fair, I figured I did have a pretty good rig but just felt like maybe it was my rig. I'll see how these performance patches go and run from there

[tiny vault]

Hi guys NOW MY GAME CRASH EVERYTIME I PRESS "ESC" 🤣

[charred sand]

Gotta wait for them patches yo

[tiny vault]

nothing more i can do xD

[ember scaffold]

How does the game look on the xbox series x ?

[charred sand]

Believe me, I've tried everything to reduce latency and increase fps, nothing really works, so I'm putting it down to the game itself

[tiny vault]

but i lamost make two parts from my keayboard

[grave knoll]

hey everyone! I have a laptop with 3060 6b vram (yeah i know...), AMD Ryzen 7 6800H and 16 gb of ram, putting more ram will mitigate memory leak or this leak is more about Vram? because besides leaks it runs fine surprisingly

[vague nexus]

30% of cpu usage playing stalker 2 is normal?

[tiny vault]

Im very very huge fan, but i have never EVER play so horible bronken game before

[ember scaffold]

Technically, it would, if you were to move on the map at the speed of 800km an hour, and the game would load a lot more textures from the drive, onto the system memory, but this isn’t the case, so at most, you’re seeing the same performance as on SATA3. However, there is a bug that causes everything to load in low poly mode at the start of the game. It fixes itself after a couple of seconds though

[charred sand]

Yeah I've seen that myself, but still

[ember scaffold]

Total core usage? Yes. One thread usage? No

[vague nexus]

not sure let me check with rivatuenr

[ember scaffold]

Like, if you were to track the usage of the first thread, it would be maxed out at 100% most likely

After the first thread gets maxed out, you’ll start noticing memory bottlenecks

This is where 3000MT RAM can be a pain to use

[charred sand]

Mines a lot lower now since I upgraded to a 5700x3D

[ember scaffold]

Yeah. The thing is, after 4 cores, games will barely touch the rest. UE5 Engine I believe will be pretty heavy and still touch on 8 cores, but only the first 4 will have normal usage, the rest will be slightly touched. The first thread should still be maxed out though, in the case that your GPU isn’t reaching 100% usage. From that point on, higher RAM speed will save you some extra frames.

This can remain true, as long as you’re not frying your CPU up with an RTX 4090 at 1080p res. At which point, you’d need 6000MT RAM to even utilize 50% of what the 4090 can offer

But at 1440p and 2160p, RAM speed literally barely makes a difference, since you’ll be GPU bound in most titles

[tiny vault]

I CANT EVE RESPAWN WITHOUT CRACH!!!!!!!

[coral token]

No

[jade raptor]

Hopefully they do more anti stutter fixes, game is terrible currently,
3070 @4k Ultra wide
Normally get around 80-100fps, but drop down to sub 10 frequently, either after death or new area
Reboot doesn't always fix it either
I noticed when it stutters CPU usage drops off a bunch

Tried so many mods and engine changes, no luck so far

[high quarry]

3070 🙃 4K 😬

Main reason I upgraded from 3070 was it was far too limited for 1440p ultrawide, nevermind 4K ultrawide.

[onyx jungle]

Any update on the error being fixed?

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x0000000000000000

This comes up at launch on PC Game Pass version in Nvidia Geforce. Same error the whole time and can not even load into the game 😦

[jade raptor]

Never really have an issue tbh. As mentioned when it's not stuttering I'm on 80+ fps
It's just this stutter

[high quarry]

Other people had the issue, I think the support was indicating it was something messed up with xbox game services or something.

[gaunt onyx]

How much did this upgrade help? I'm planning to do exactly this.

[charred sand]

Not a great deal if I'm honest, I did it more for the bottleneck, and for other games too

[onyx jungle]

Hmmmm ok. Will try to get this figured out. Would be nice to play on laptop as I'm away from PC

[high quarry]

5600x had higher clock, but 5700x3D has 2 extra cores and the 3D cache, in most games it will be better.

[hollow nexus]

The game is bugged and cooked. Not your RAM's fault.

[gaunt onyx]

What do you mean by not great deal? Did you see FPS gains in bases with lots of NPC's like Zalisya?

[charred sand]

I mean that the game needs more optimizations etc, I did see an fps increase, but because of the high latency it still looked/felt choppy

[high quarry]

It is possible though, if running out of RAM and paging to a slower disk its entirely feasible it could stall to 0

if you are running out of both RAM and VRAM, you are cooked, as the kids say.

[hollow nexus]

Welcome to 5fps death freeze. Happens to a lot of us, even on top tier hardware. GSC has not recognized the issue yet.

[high quarry]

and the cause is still not exactly known.

[gaunt onyx]

I have 4070 Super and for me the game is heavily CPU bottlenecked most of the time, I hardly see GPU utilization above 90% even with most settings on high. No framegen. But I wonder how much 5700x3d helps. V-Cache should help in most typical single-thread heavy games (which I assume this one is too), but also for multithreaded as well due to more cores. But in rare case when game is single-thread heavy but also utilizes CPU cache effectively, 5600x might be faster due to higher clocks. But my guess is these types of games are very rare.

[high quarry]

The trend is, it happens quicker on lower VRAM and RAM systems.

[charred sand]

Higher clocks isn't always best, it has 8 cores instead of 6

[steady torrent]

its due to memory leaks , it is in the current patch but still the issue persists

[high quarry]

My guess is that it is mostly likely an UE bug related to lumen cache and its updates, especially with large lighting changes like fom indoor to outdoor.

[hollow nexus]

I dont think its a leak. I think its some poorly written code thats doing unecessary calls to the GPU. VRAM does not rise or go over the limits when it happens (at least for me). Frequently I get it with over 1GB free VRAM... also ram is not an issue on my machine no even close.

[high quarry]

never had it, but I always have 6-7GB VRAM left, and 12+GB sys RAM left.

[hollow nexus]

I get this bug even when standing still (i.e. in theory no reason for huge visual changes to be suddenly calculated)

[gaunt onyx]

Btw, I never had any stuttering issues people are talking about, nor crashes (only once for 40+ hrs). 32 gigs of RAM, 12 gigs of VRAM. I did use an Ultimate Engine Tweak mod (recommend it above all others). And there are no leaks even after long play sessions (VRAM utilization is quite low, but I'm at 1080p DLAA).

[south light]

I got an 5800x cpu with a 4070 super no need for an upgrade?

[high quarry]

Anything that moves that can cause HLOD tree updates and lumen cache invalidates, doesnt have to be you.

[hollow nexus]

If it was VRAM related I think people on 4090s wouldnt be having the exact same issue

[vapid wigeon]

The only thing I found about UE5 having a leak was the DLSS & FSR options being added. On the UE forums this was a thing for earlier UE5 but now? Could be back again. And it was pointed out it was more a DLSS thing than anything else.

[hollow nexus]

Then its also poorly written code if its rendering and doing expensive calculations on things I cant see

[midnight anvil]

Do we have an idea when the next patch is?

[high quarry]

or it could be something silly, like a cascade of Niagara effects repeating over and over..

[vapid wigeon]

Other wise I've still had zero issues so I can't say what it would be, wish I could help. lol Might pop in that 4070 ti S and play for a while and see how it goes if I can re-produce it.

[late ferry]

0x61475634 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hollow nexus]

I'm very convinced the 5 fps death freeze is bad code spamming the GPU with cheap calls.

I'm almost convincing myself to learn how to use nvidia nsight just to try and figure this out

[lavish mason]

flawless technical analysis

[vapid wigeon]

it does show on UE5 dev posts a vram leak can easily be caused with bad local variables and reference calls or some crap too. Using AMD though I've had no issue like this so I can't really look into anything happening.

[gaunt onyx]

5800x3d might be much better as the game currently very CPU limited unless you're playing at 4K DLAA and ultra settings with this card. But it's not a good value for an outdated AM4 platform. I wouldn't upgrade just for this one game if I were you, wait for optimization patches and/or mods.

[high quarry]

https://x.com/VideoCardz/status/1863943102102159647?t=aHt93rHqWgmcB_5WkuqYww

[vapid wigeon]

lol I applaud intel for trying but they're just not a great option unless its still 1080p people are aiming for.

[vague nexus]

I have same gpu and i7 14700k and i have a lot un sttutering

[lavish mason]

5700x3d from everyones favourite bulk chinese etailer is where the value is at currently

was around £125 delivered on monday, so ebay resellers @ £140 will be seen. your local prices may vary etc

[gaunt onyx]

Maybe it's intel-specific? Try tweak mods on Nexus, they appear to fix stuttering for many people.

[high quarry]

Still, its like a 4060 ti 16GB, for $250 retail, if that thing hits sales..

[lavish mason]

how much itll help btw, i suspect patches and bug fixes will help more, but in general the x3d will outperform the x chip in most games

[vapid wigeon]

For stuttering on intel its more than likely some P & E core crap going on for most. Go figure.

[vague nexus]

i try like 3 or 4 performance mods and help a little but anyways sometimes still stutering

[vague nexus]

maybe disabling e cores? i will see

[vapid wigeon]

Possibly, worth a shot. It shouldn't stutter due to the CPU though unless its jumping around like I mentioned to the wrong cores repeatedly.

[primal sentinel]

@high quarry Your S2SG exe windows no likey.

[vapid wigeon]

The whole P & E core crap was reported before in UE5 and also Unity when they first dropped. It would default to E cores and lower clocks.

[edgy oriole]

i think the game is new enough to know not to use them, but I turn the affinity off anyways because it helps me in deadlock :V

[vapid wigeon]

You'd think so but its untelling if its game code to blame or the engine its self.

[high quarry]

.NET 8.0

[primal sentinel]

Possible portable version coming soon?

[edgy oriole]

turning affinity off in deadlock nets me 50 fps, just a solid 50 fps boost, it doesn't stutter with them on though, CS2 (another source 2 game) straight up doesnt use them if I don't them not to, stalker 2 I don't notice a difference tbh

[high quarry]

I think this is the right one
https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/thank-you/runtime-desktop-8.0.11-windows-x64-installer

but also try https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/thank-you/runtime-8.0.11-windows-x64-installer

[vapid wigeon]

Yeah, so I highly doubt it would be E core issues. But as I said always a possibility even with other systems when someone else is fine.

[edgy oriole]

yeah I still turn affinity off just in case honestly, a bit of a pain I could set up a shortcut script but it's not a crap ton of effort to turn 4 cores off in task manager

[vapid wigeon]

For the most part the stutters are like I mentioned for days. I'd notice Nvidia likes to drop in power usage randomly A LOT in this game for some and then you'll see stutters. It'll go from full wattage to 90-110 ranges even lower at random then bounce back also aligning with utilization from 70-90s over and over a lot.

[hollow nexus]

Thats because the gpu is flooded with low complexity calls

[vapid wigeon]

2 people with a 4090 showed me this happening on their end, I saw it on my wifes PC too. And all specs are within range with no issues to run the cards, so.

[hollow nexus]

Thats what im talking about. There's some piece of really poorly optimized code pegging the GPU with useless, cheap, calls. The effect is the GPU getting spammed but its power draw falling because they are not complex calls

Well... idk if useless calls.. but many of cheap ones.

[vapid wigeon]

Given I'm on AMD I've not had this issue even once, power stays pegged at max and gpu usage is 97-100 full time for hours on end, works flawlessly. So its really only bothering Nvidia.

[high quarry]

So new Intel B580 pretty much looks worth it under 2 conditions:
You can get a 12GB card.
The price is <= $250.

[hollow nexus]

Indeed I dont recall hearing of this issue with amd gpus

[high quarry]

Not had it either, 7800XT

[lavish mason]

my main issue is i have to turn my heating down when the gpu is pgged in the mid to high 90%s

[vapid wigeon]

Honestly it makes sense as to why too. They did state they were working on optimization the best they can, given that consoles are both AMD too, go figure. The Nvidia side needs more work.

[south light]

Okay good to know but my cpu is like 50 percent in usage so I might think there is currently no real bottleneck, the next upgrade I will do is most likely to geht AM5

[edgy oriole]

yeah same here, 50% cpu 90% gpu

[high quarry]

So people would be better off with a 7800XT/7900 GRE than a 4060 ti / 4070 atm in this game?

[misty hearth]

anyone think upgrading from 32gb of ddr4 to ddr5 worth?

[vapid wigeon]

lol seems so, it'll probably remain this way unless they're going 4k. If they apparently optimize it more for console, theres the answer.

[tepid steppe]

unless you on spesific intel, thats not possible

[high quarry]

7800XT prices remain fair.
7900XT/7900XTX prices are still very high.

[vapid wigeon]

XT is still around 599 or so around here. XTX can be had for 699 if lucky but they're gone quickly. Still hovering around averages of 750+ though.

[high quarry]

7900 GRE seems to depend where you are. Can be had for cheap, but not a lot of them in some places.

[edgy oriole]

how fast is that ddr4?

[vapid wigeon]

That 8800XT rumor looks HAWT though! lol 45% increase in RT matching a 4080S and over all raster better than an XTX? Pfft. Doubtful but if so? Sheesh.

[high quarry]

7900GRE is only 5% more than the 7800XT here, its a no brainer.

Just gotta hope they keep that 8800XT msrp at < 600

[misty hearth]

ddr4 3000 (PC4 24000)

[vapid wigeon]

If they do and thats what they call their "mid-range" as they claim? I'm all for mid range ahahah. I'll gladly get one.

[edgy oriole]

hm, maybe if you get a newer cpu too I am not sure, all I know is that ddr5 has more latency but their speed makes up for it

[misty hearth]

i have a i7 12700k , you think i should upgrade cpu and ram then?

[high quarry]

If you can run DDR5 6000+ at CL30 its def worth it.

12700k can

[edgy oriole]

yeah 12th series is one of those in between I think can do either ddr4 or ddr5

my recent upgrade was i9-10900X + DDR4 3600 CL17 to i5-12600k + DDR5 5000 CL38, no idea if it's actually faster

[misty hearth]

in terms of gaming is upgrading from my cpu to an i9 worth?

[high quarry]

2x16 6000 CL30 kits are very common now, so prices came down

[vapid wigeon]

12th gen officially only supports up to 4800 DDR5, you can use higher, but wont see a change honestly like you would Ryzen on AM4's platform or AM5 going from 4800 to 5600 scenarios.

[high quarry]

but venture to 6400 and prices increase, and even more for 7200-8000

[edgy oriole]

I paid like $400 for my DDR4 3600 CL17 😭 😭 in like 2018... during the ram shortage it was a really bad purchace

[wintry needle]

So CL30 is the sweet spot on DDR5?

[high quarry]

depends on MT/s, and which CPU

[broken needle]

4x8go now about 80€ the stick of 4400mhz b-die, so 160€

[vapid wigeon]

If On 12th gen theres really no need for DDR5 though so it'd kinda be a waste of money lol

[steel geyser]

in gaming there is not much to gain going from a i5 to a i9

[misty hearth]

so new mb, ram, and cpu? alright

[high quarry]

Get a Ryzen 7th-9th, and 6400 is a bit of a lottery, but most can do 6000 CL30 just fine.

[wintry needle]

I should read up on AM5, then again an upgrade is not on the cards anytime soon.... The rain smells like bathroom renovation 👀 😢

[hazy briar]

my game is a crashing mess ,idkw but ive tried everything

[vapid wigeon]

Have you tried yelling at it?

[lavish mason]

im team red but never get my hopes up too much on release rumours. we al lremember vega still (and all the others). noones beating nvidia any time soon in performance

[high quarry]

Same with 8000 in 2:1 mode, but the burden shift more to the motherboard

[wintry needle]

Depending on mobo I wouldn't get 4 sticks... In mine 2 is faster than 4, the manual even discouraged using 4 sticks

[hazy briar]

any body have any ideas how to fix it

[lavish mason]

have you tried microwaving your router?

[misty hearth]

anyone recommend an am5 cpu?

[broken needle]

sure the best is 2x8 >4x8 >2x16 for ddr4, but it's lottery bin

[high quarry]

Meh, for most DDR4 just go 2x16 3600 16-18.
If you get a b-die bin and can do CL14, fine, otherwise just do 16

[vapid wigeon]

Eh, not worried about beating another company lol its all about perf/dollar for me. Im not spending 1000's on a GPU. Mean while, 7900 XT here and playing games that DONT crash for me, perform well, and can do epic all day on just about anything while at the regular 4080's heels in most things at my resolution. Thats money saved and worth it!

So if AMD's 8800XT rumor is legit? Thats a steal if its again the right price.

I mean look at the XTX. It can be had for a regular price around 800 after tax mostly depending on the brand. Beating a 4080S and head to head with a 4090 at the price is GOLD!

[lavish mason]

yeah fair, im not actually a fanboy, just happened top pick up whatever was the best value performer for my budget at the time.usually an outgoing gen higher peforming card on discount. Still think £800 quid for a gpu is abhorrent though

[broken needle]

just optimise engine/softs instead of pushing always expensive and power hungry pc components

[high quarry]

xtx even beats 4090 in pure raster if theres no RT/compute in some games..

[vapid wigeon]

Open box deals are your best friend! lol always remember that.

[vapid wigeon]

Yep! Even the regular XT has in some RARE titles on SUPER RARE occasions lol oddly enough.

[wintry needle]

What's the recommended PSU to drive a XTX?

[high quarry]

e.g in Tarkov id take a 7900XT over a 4070 super ti

[steel geyser]

Best CPU-s in 2024 if you interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zue30tcu0mY

[edgy oriole]

bruh mfw a 4060 is equivilant to the 1080 ti in raster

[lavish mason]

1080 was a glorious card. the rtx tax since, and massive increase in pricing, less so

[edgy oriole]

I went from a 1080 ti to a 2080 ti, doesn't feel like a massive upgrade LOL

[lavish mason]

because it wasnt

[hazy briar]

i asked a question in gsc ask and they still heavent replied it yet ,i asked about crashing constantly ,is anybody else going through this

[vapid wigeon]

I believe its 850-ish for most XTX models, other wise 750 for base I think. I know it was 650-750 for the XT variants. I went with 1000w Evga Gold lol Just to be safe, plus I had a 3090 before this so go figure.. damn thing sipped 500+ watt

[edgy oriole]

I get some more FPS in my competitive game but that's it, I can maybe do very light RTX and DLSS stuf now

[high quarry]

4060 is a low end GPU when segregating into 3 chips..

[steel geyser]

i had a 1070, then got a 3070, now i have a 4070S, all are very good cards

i also like Frame Gen, making high refresh rate gaming possible

[lavish mason]

fsr is open source

[wintry needle]

I still to this day believe Nv accidentally released a card too good, so good they were in trouble maintaining the drip feed of performance they usually do

[high quarry]

Nothing else really uses AD107, the closest thing is laptop GPUs

[lavish mason]

they also believed the vega hype, and released a card to crush it, maybe? 😄 They quickly learned to never give us so much again.

[wintry needle]

Plausible! 😆

[edgy oriole]

hey I can try hl2 rtx now with a 2080 ti :3

[lavish mason]

and had some work to do to override the bad taste the whole 970gtx with fake half a gig of ram drama

[edgy oriole]

I could play quake rtx on my 1080ti at ludicrous low resolution

[high quarry]

But generally just go for the 7900GRE if thats your price bracket, or wait to see what AMD/NVIDIA actually say on Jan 7th

[lavish mason]

then buy the last gen for massive discounts, and ignore the marketting hype for new products for the next 2 years

[vapid wigeon]

Best card that I had from Nvidia that I kept the longest was a GTX 260 Core 216. ❤️ lol I used to love Nvidia I swear. But those prices slowly became the "NOPE" of my gaming world. Last Nvidia card I had was a 3090 only because a guy wanted my 6950 for it for some reason, figured I'd try it out. Other wise I've had AMD since the 5700 launch, a 6800, 6950, and before that was a 1060 6gb, 770, 760, 660, 560, 260, 9800 gt, 9500gt, radeon 2400 HD, Radeon x1300 and so on.

[edgy oriole]

bruh you STOLE that 3090 wtf

[primal sentinel]

Yeah. 6750 xt, 7800 xt, & 7900GRE are best price/perf imo

[hollow nexus]

Funny that they have nvidia sponsorship right?

[vapid wigeon]

lmao nah the 6950 beat that 3090 in TONS of things really.

[edgy oriole]

oh nvm I was thinking the HD series cards 🤣

[vapid wigeon]

god no lmao But yeah the 6950 beat the 3090 in lots of games, until RT was involved. Then I traded the 3090 to a 7900 XT, the guy wanted Nvidia again go figure. And yet again, Gained more FPS and even better RT. Epic deal for me. RIP to the guy.

[edgy oriole]

hahaha

[flat brook]

Eh, ive seen plenty of people reporting the same VRAM and access violation crashes over on the EFP server with RX 6000 series cards, I don’t think the game differentiates between brand at this point

[vapid wigeon]

I've played that pretty well with both the 6950 and 7900 XT and never had issues like people claimed really. Its hard to tell what all people got going on, gotta remember, AMD is picky with people using card risers, extension cables and so on too. And LOTS use that kinda crap.

[hollow nexus]

Different issue I believe

[vapid wigeon]

If I re-call the Vram issues were due to page files and actual ram related things.

It was like when I'd play icarus with the 6950 I had vram crashes for no reason until I realized it was the page file its self, I had it too low despite having 32gb of ram and so on. Didn't matter.

[flat brook]

I believe not, they can’t stand in Rostok for longer than 20 minutes before they dip to 5-10 FPS.

[flat brook]

That’s the hard thing about it, I haven’t experienced any of the GPU related issues Nvidia users have either, and I refuse to believe my prayers to the Monolith are the sole reason I’ve been spared.

[edgy oriole]

o monolita pls gib 7900xtx

[vapid wigeon]

I'm telling you, the past year Nvidia has done nothing but release bs drivers. People say im being a fan boy but the proof is all over in steam discusions and reddit. People are literally fed up with their higher end cards just NOT doing it any more. The last few months I saw posts of losing upwards to 20 fps for 40 series on some titles thanks to driver updates alone.

Like I've been over here thinking.. WHAT are they doing? Its becoming a trend now. Almost like an apple move lmao "Hey, get a 50 series" winkwink

[lavish mason]

the enshittification of products; be they hardware or software, continues apace

[wintry needle]

All going as planned

Then again, I'm probably the most jaded fúcker on this green earth so don't mind me

[lavish mason]

jaded is my favourite tone of green, aye

[flat brook]

Jade goes hard af ngl

[wintry needle]

Hmmmm
Maybe 'cynical' would be a better word here

[hollow nexus]

Again I dont believe its a vram issue (talking about the 5fps death freeze). How are people with 4090s having the same problem. When I have it i still have 0.5-1.5GB free vram.

[hollow nexus]

The crash and the drop to 5FPS might not be related. I never get crashes but always get the 5FPS death freeze. But who knows..

[edgy oriole]

planned obsolecense is one hell of a drug

[wintry needle]

Lmao I have 7 (seven) perfectly working smartphones in my drawer because they're not getting security updates anymore.and they also can't be unlocked to be repurposed

[vapid wigeon]

Something a long the line of vram and how its swapped and worked within nvidias overhead driver side being corrupt or hanging

[edgy oriole]

i guess you COULD use them, but whenever the old networks are offline you're fully effed. but iirc my 5g+ phone still uses 3g for calls smh

[wintry needle]

Imagine it comes out that it's been a nv driver issue all along and we were lambasting poor devs here

[vapid wigeon]

Oh I know its half the issue for sure, I'd say 80% driver 20% devs

As I said I've seen nothing but issues in several titles posted in steam discussion more than ever lately. Its a growing thing. I think its all due to them trying to update gf experience and their beta apps plus you know how they basically bundle their drivers all for the same card into one now vs how they did before needing a specific one.

[gaunt onyx]

You need to look at per-thread usage, total usage means nothing in this case. I'm pretty sure you are CPU bottlenecked.

[ebon ridge]

when it will be functional FG on rtx 4060?🫣

[edgy oriole]

for me its not even maxing out the threads either, the cpu bottle is so real ><

[toxic cradle]

First game I’ve refunded on steam in 7 years. Performance is abysmal. Please fix this, I’m desperate to play it…

[edgy oriole]

I got it from the seven seas... but have an internal promise to buy when im not a broke mf 😭 sorry ukraine

even then the performance keeps me from booting it up so I feel u @toxic cradle 😦

[toxic cradle]

It’s literally unplayable

[agile harbor]

CPU bottlenecks come in all shapes and sizes, and you certainly won't always see 100% usage of the whole chip or even just one core. I see my GPU waiting on my 7800x3D in certain areas in this title, and in a number of other UE5 titles even at 4K. PresentMon makes this very easy to see in their frametime over GPU Busy graphs.

[agile harbor]

Should function just fine assuming you could maintain roughly 60fps without it on. Below that its never going to feel good.

[edgy oriole]

I think it's cheesy even if you have enough fps

[agile harbor]

I don't care as long as it improves the experience. I can sit on my 118fps framerate cap now most when out in the zone. Settlements are a little different.

[edgy oriole]

the input feels like im on GHB

[runic shadow]

Specs?

[agile harbor]

With the mouse smoothing adjustments and Reflex on, either its not bad or i am just not susceptible.

[vapid wigeon]

If input lag is a thing.. you're using FG below 60 fps really.

[wintry needle]

Framegen was marketed to me like "you don't need to be able to push 60fps, we'll insert new frames to bring it up to that level", am I misinterpreting what FG even is, or it failed its goal?

[edgy oriole]

and i can feel the blurriness of the interpolated frames its literally like that crap they put on TVs

[agile harbor]

If you're below 60 with FG off, you're never going to have a good experience with it on.

[ember scaffold]

6950XT was a total beast. It often beat the RTX 3090 TI in pure performance at 1440p especially. It was only losing a lot to raytracing. Even at 4k, crap was tight

[runic shadow]

I play at 90fps with FG off, with it on its still got a lot of input lag. I think frame gen is just a bad idea in practice.

[edgy oriole]

framegen for not-input controlled rendered content I think would be cool

[agile harbor]

I hated it early on but now 80ish hours into the game, I've settled on my settings and just enjoying the game.

4K. Epic Preset, motion blur 0%, DLSS Quality, FG on Auto

[vapid wigeon]

Yep, this! And people say FG looks like crap but its mostly due to that alone. If they're below 60 and then try it with other things on you'll see ghosting and all that bs. If you're 60+ and use it it will pretty much be flawless with almost no input lag what so ever.

Like when I tried it with FG on and AFMF on for AMD I had 180+ and ZERO input delay, even frame times dropped too.

If I tried that on a 6600 XT? FAIL FAIL FAIL lmao

[wintry needle]

But why tf would we even need FG if we're above 60 anyway??

[vapid wigeon]

Because for some reason everyone wants 300+ FPS any more lol

[agile harbor]

Anything above 60 just feel better.

[vapid wigeon]

I personally dont care, I only used it to test and see how high it would go with it. I dont use it other wise, no need to.

[wintry needle]

Ffs
Apparently another one of those "solution seeking a problem" things

[agile harbor]

I can maintain 60-70 with it off but turning it on feels better so its as simple as that, for me.

May be different for you.

[vapid wigeon]

If a lot of people would actively use G-Sync and Freesync properly they wouldn't give a damn if it were 60-80s or so lol You wouldn't notice much at all. What most people don't know is JUST BECAUSE your monitor says its either, doesn't mean its active at all. Half the time you gotta enable it in the monitor its self. lol

[agile harbor]

Eh, as a GSync user since mid-2016 across 3 displays, I dunno about that.

[edgy oriole]

then there is the issue if you get below a certain framerate that g-sync just doesn't operate at, iirc its 48 hz?

[wintry needle]

Also monitor may support it via DP but not HDMI, or vice versa, etc.

[vapid wigeon]

I mean for me, I use Freesync and AMD so its possibly different from my perspective lol

[agile harbor]

Depends on the display.

But yes there is often a minimum limit. Maximum too, simply the displays refresh rate.

[spare coral]

"High refresh rate experience" nerds that wants 165hz on everygame they play
Also fg feels nice going from 45+ fps for singleplayer games but this game already has ton of input lag even without it

[agile harbor]

I global cap frames at 118fps to keep everythign inside my 120Hz GSync window. Not that this is relevant for this game LOL

[high quarry]

Hadnt tried the WiFi adapter on this motherboard yet, seems to work.. https://www.speedtest.net/result/17087388146.png

[vapid wigeon]

Yeah I cap everything around 160 lol as for this game yeah no. Max I've seen with without FG and FSR was 80-90s with FG and still FSR off its like 110-120s, typically hovering around 100-108.

[balmy dome]

anyone else getting times where their GPU load goes to 100% and drops the frames anything between 10-25?

[vapid wigeon]

Hello Nvidia user! 🤣

[spare coral]

A lot of people, this game kinda goes to shit with nvidia gpus for some reason

[balmy dome]

i thought we are past that goofy argument already but ig not 🤓

[high quarry]

Its an observation, not an argument?

[vapid wigeon]

I'd honestly try other drivers, not many people have did so for some reason. 2 months ago was the drivers people would roll back to having these frame drops with Nvidia and UE5 that I found.

[balmy dome]

tried to rollback drivers and tried to DDU current drivers and install them back, but no difference so far

[vapid wigeon]

Its an actual fact lol AMD doesn't do that in this game for some reason. We're trying to find solutions but no luck for Nvidia folks atm.

[high quarry]

Buildzoid is doing a 9800x3D OC Stream atm

[spare coral]

Weird because nvidia was promoting this game too

[balmy dome]

and even added new drivers for stalker 2 release, crazy times we are living in

[spare coral]

Amd still doesnt have drivers for stalker 2

[edgy oriole]

any mad scientist play on old nvidia drivers?

[late ferry]

kenuv2 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[agile harbor]

Every few hours or so this happens. I have to save and relaunch the game. (though GPU load is 100% when gaming normally, as it should be). VRAM is maxed out when this happens, iv'e noticed.

[vapid wigeon]

I'm still on the drivers from like 5 months ago and playing fine with no crashes or stutters, issues, etc lmao And AMD drivers were "CRAP" remember?

[wintry needle]

Oh how the turntables

[edgy oriole]

I am curious if anyone is playing fine on old nv drivers and if they actually did anything

[high quarry]

I am on 24.10.1 without issue

[balmy dome]

i really dont think that is very "healthy" for your GPU load to be 100% at all times :D

[vapid wigeon]

It's supposed to be 100% load gaming

[south light]

So if my ryzen 7 5800x is bottleneck which should I get instead? Only way to get a real upgrade is to switch to am5 right?

[flat brook]

It’s supposed to run at 99+% utilization when playing games

[agile harbor]

Must not be very familiar with PC's but if it wasn't, then you have performance left on the table and something is holding up the GPU. That's exactly how it should be.

[vapid wigeon]

Wanna save money? AM5 and a 7700X would give you a proper jump! Not even that costly.

[untold marsh]

Frame generation is basically taking two pictures and guessing the frames in between. Like bad animations that between key frames will just wierdly morph pictures. I really don't understand the hype around it too tbh.

[south light]

I was dumb a couple months ago, I bought a new mb I wish I would knew earlier

[balmy dome]

probably none of the games are running at full gpu utilization that i play, at this moment stalker is running both 70% on CPU and 60ish on GPU

[agile harbor]

Unfortunate marketing to those that don't follow this stuff as a hobby. Shame on them, TBH. It has its uses for sure but only if certain conditions are met.

[vapid wigeon]

Then there's an issue. It shouldn't be 60ish on GPU at all in stalker.

[agile harbor]

I'd be curious to see your frametime / GPU Busy graph while playing. Its likely your GPU is being held up somewhere in the chain.

[edgy oriole]

wow cpu is really struggling there

[wintry needle]

The performance is there to be used

[flat brook]

We all know he’s being held back by his PSU. He needs atleast a 1600W brick, and its great future proofing until we move to wall socketed GPUs.

[austere gorge]

You definitely do not need 1600W lmao. 1000 max is perfectly fine

[balmy dome]

i wish i knew where, id understand it to be higher since im playing on older hardware, but getting 100% load on GPU just drops the frames to 15fps so id prefer it not to jump to 100% :D

[wintry needle]

He jesting

[edgy oriole]

my pc uses ~650w total under full load xP

[flat brook]

[austere gorge]

Whoops, sorry freedom stalker here

[vapid wigeon]

[wintry needle]

But yea... Looking forward to the day I need a cable thick as my thumb going from the GPU into an external PSU that I needed an electrician to wire into the house

380V 3 phase

[charred sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=814y2OPLsX0

For those trying to help performance, this helped me a lot, it's at least playable to me now

[balmy dome]

after playing a while, it seems that CPU load is higher around 80% and for GPU its 75% which dont sound normal in a game like this. Im currently using 750w so is it time to upgrade that or start to investigate that issue from somewhere else?

[edgy oriole]

yeah I got results and didnt destroy the visuals 😄, very good to know that some settings just affect visuals but not perf

[wintry needle]

Would your card (or any card) ramp down performance if there's not enough juice, or it'd just crash?

[agile harbor]

System specs?

[edgy oriole]

your pc would just turn off I think

[vital spear]

It just shows that CPU starts to bottleneck GPU. Remember GPU should stay at 100% usage if you don't limit your FPS.

[high quarry]

The lower your res/upscaling, the more likely you are to hit a CPU bottleneck due to higher fps.

[spare coral]

Its bottlenecking (prolly the cpu) cause this game is unoptomized
If it was something related to your power supply your pc would turn off

[high quarry]

I cant hit a CPU bottleneck at any reasonable res. Always 100% GPU limited.

[agile harbor]

This doesn't sound anything like a PSU issue

[balmy dome]

Ryzen 5 5500, RTX 2060(both overclocked) , 32gb ram at 3600mhz and they are on 750w psu. CPU and GPU should be fine together without any bigger bottleneck between them

Temp wise both CPU is at 65c and GPU is at 80c

[vital spear]

I remember when before first patch game capped my 48GB of ram

[spare coral]

Even better cpus get bottlenecked on this game, this game just trash most mid range cpus (and even high end cpus)

[agile harbor]

It should, but the R5 5500 isn't great. I always highly suggest (or did back when Zen4 was newer) to try to push towards 5600 as a minimum. Double the cache helps a lot in games.

Assuming this is 1080p?

[balmy dome]

yeah ive had this cpu few years now, im planning to upgrade both cpu and gpu in near future. 1080p at 280hz

[agile harbor]

I see minor CPU bottlenecking in towns/settlements with a 7800x3D playing at 4K so yeah, the game needs work.

Hasn't stopped me from enjoying it for 80 hours though.

[high quarry]

I dont see one with 9800x3D until 300fps+

[vital spear]

Also remeber if your 750w PSU wasn't enough it should just cut your power and restart PC. It doesn't lower your performance when it can't handle it.

[balmy dome]

yeah i think i checked few years back that 750w should be fine for those parts. Just wondering where the rest of the performance goes in different games

[agile harbor]

Measured how? As these chips aren't very different, and 300fps isn't achievable at 4K Epic anyway.

[high quarry]

Only way is to lower res to get such high fps

on busy places thats 300fps, less busy is 400fps, and somewhere without much around like water is 500fps

[agile harbor]

More than plenty, for sure. Really isn't a PSU issue.

[spare coral]

I dont think your pc even reaches 500 wtts lol

[high quarry]

You have to go all the way down to something stupid like 144p to get 400fps+

[fickle sierra]

mouse acceleration disable

win-key+r

%userprofile%\appdata\Local\Stalker2\Saved\Config\Windows```
locate input.ini paste in

[/script/engine.inputsettings]
RawMouseInputEnabled=Enabled
bEnableMouseSmoothing=False
bViewAccelerationEnabled=False

Makes mouse X/Y movements the same speed
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/57?tab=description

both of this are basicly mandatory so the input does not feel like crap
if you can enable nvidia reflex
if you hitting around 60 fps try enabeling AMD´s Frame generation
you will get a very very slight input delay but it should smooth out frames and make it better overall.

[balmy dome]

Im just out of ideas where to start resolving the problem about cpu and gpu usage since i dont think my gpu has reached 100% in any games other than stalker and then it causes issues with the game

[edgy oriole]

ive disabled smoothing already, FG is still like being on GHB lol

[agile harbor]

All said and done a Ryzen 5 5500 and a 2060 is going to struggle in this game in its current state. Maybe try the video suggested here. #pc-specs message @balmy dome

[balmy dome]

right now im averaging around 90-110 out of towns but in towns and settlements it gets unplayable

[spare coral]

This game has lot of issues but your rig is also weak for this game

[high quarry]

Lowering settings right down will get you 25-50 fps, but nothing nearly as much as lower res gets you.

[fickle sierra]

yeah you need the Y/X fix too otherwise looking up down will be slower then looking left right wich makes aiming impossible at least for me.

and yeah if you do not hit around 60 fps without Frame generation then input delay will increase and can be annoying as hell

not sure wich gpu you have but try DLSS-quality or FSR-quality in combination with FSR Frame generation
or if this does not work for you try without Frame generation

[edgy oriole]

i have that mod too, FG is just aids

[agile harbor]

The towns will hit the CPU hard. I can watch CPU usage as I walk towards the main starting town I can never remember how to spell climb from 30's out in the zone up to the 60's in usage.

[edgy oriole]

underground is even worse than the settlements in my experience

[fickle sierra]

it is iam on a 2080 in 1080p and i basicly have to use it as it makes the game way more smoother in terms of spikes and dips in this case its the first game where i can actualy life with amd´s FG on. alltough its not as repsonsive as without it.

[balmy dome]

in towns my gpu just hits 100% and fps goes below 30, otherwise out of towns i stay stable at 90-110fps with both cpu and gpu at around 65-80

[high quarry]

9800x3D doesnt really go past 40%, mostly low 30%

but, single cores will hit 90% with lower res when hitting 220-250 fps

https://i.imgur.com/98Ves5z.jpeg

[agile harbor]

There is something else at play there with how the games setup. It would if the game was configured the same.

[spare coral]

The towns eat all of your gpu's vram too

[agile harbor]

Yes, all 24GB of it.

[balmy dome]

vram is around 4gb in towns, so there is around 2gb to play with still

[edgy oriole]

there must be something wrong with how the game draws the environment..... because underground its as if its rendering the overworld too and fps just tanks

[high quarry]

VRAM does spike up a little, hit 7.7 on low graphics settings on the shevchenko https://i.imgur.com/FfrQMMF.jpeg (at native 1440)

[agile harbor]

Open world and underground run great for me, weird.

[spare coral]

Same

[balmy dome]

im thinking about disabling and reverting the OC's both on cpu and gpu to see if it has a wierd issue how the game performs

[edgy oriole]

open world runs the best but I swear underground is worse than settlement may be equal

[high quarry]

underground?

[edgy oriole]

yea tunnels and when I was in the sphere it was really bad

[agile harbor]

tunnels and undground complexes. You spend a lot of time in them lol

[spare coral]

I would say give it a try and if it doesnt make it better just wait for a patch that adresses the optimization