☢┃stalker-general

[serene barn]

Is it weird to hope its still a ways off so i have time to finish this playthrough lol

[tame panther]

Speedrun it

[small quest]

Imagine, imagine they actually said something to us simps.

[golden gulch]

Nothing happen
F#$&

[serene barn]

i'm at the part where i need to get into the stalker control place and i have pretty much vacuumed all the other places for loot

[proven hollow]

hy would they communicate with us peasants and serfs?

[small quest]

we are filth.

[charred nova]

Credit to afigy

[shell flax]

Incredible effort

HOWEVER

[shell flax]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-pissed-rage-smash-fight-gif-10873375

[proven hollow]

i have no idea what afigy means

[charred nova]

The user in this discord with that name

[charred nova]

Had to do it

[frigid axle]

[hardy totem]

Mastercrafted bait tbh

[old forge]

https://tenor.com/view/british-cop-screaming-screaming-sad-gif-10576833416044093400

[proven hollow]

even in our wildest made up fantasies about an update we don't have binoculars yet

[old forge]

Hey buddy be happy with ur almanac ads

Tbh the only pings I look forward to are the almanac ads give me more GSC

Stalker 2 is old news I need more almanac

[frigid axle]

btw guys, my S2 is stuck at "setting up profile" part after my electricity went out, i have connection, i have everything, i tried to close and reopen the game but it's stuck at Setting up profile

[proven hollow]

how am i expected to read those small letters without binoculars?!

[main jewel]

so this is fake

ro

bro

if i dont hear anything about this game in the near future

someones gunna get it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262733079634645032/1424741901117952011/6fd6ee6a0ec9b016e74fd97f203cb7e9.gif

[main jewel]

nothing EVER happens

[old forge]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-maytech-monolith-prayer-gif-16869366242639767810

[main jewel]

NOTHIJG HAPPENS AT ALL

[charred nova]

Totally fake

[serene barn]

i feel like...the game has something in it where it'll change NPCs. like i reloaded a quicksave some times trying to sneak out of the Chemical Plant now there's just 2 who went missing

[main jewel]

biggest gsc fumble of all time

this is like the same amount of actual news content i get from bbc news and channel 2

spoiler alert… NOTHINNNNGGGG

[charred nova]

The world is ending

[main jewel]

maybe a live high speed chase once n awhile

[charred nova]

Just kidding

[main jewel]

theres a reason why people think stalker 2 is a dead game and here it is 🌩️

[main jewel]

if the world ends before the dlc i might be the angriest person on the ending earth

something better come up today and if it doesnt i wont be mr nice person anymo…

[charred nova]

I never got to drive a rx7 I will wonder this universe forever totally unfulfilled

[main jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1266191471963410573/1502434962199019641/attachment.gif

[proven hollow]

nah u a soft egg

[charred nova]

Mol1t already posted in ask gsc

[main jewel]

gsc is the monolith and we are its followers… accept it has abandoned us as we cant hear a single freaking bit of actual news EVERRRR

AND I USED THE WRONG WORDDD

EXCEPT

not accept

[charred nova]

Nothing is happening

[main jewel]

im an inch closer to cracking

[charred nova]

The numbers mean nothing

[main jewel]

i saw that

the first to go is gunna be kuro by the way

but erm the community deserves quite a bit more communication from a vanilla game that is 1/3 complete and not what gsc originally promised us before launch

[charred nova]

Not even hiding it anymore

[main jewel]

7.62x39 pkm

[deft tartan]

They meant a lot to us…

[charred nova]

I know we have nothing else

[deft tartan]

[charred nova]

[main jewel]

oh yeah bro hes going to be SLAUGHTERED

[vale shadow]

xdddddd

[south wasp]

"Every death of a bandits leave a void within me." 🔥 ✍️

[vale shadow]

Its not May 12, its December 5

[charred nova]

The game is made by Europeans

So 12/5 is may 12th

[vale shadow]

Yeah, but europeans sometimes can use M/D

[charred nova]

Never heard of any European doing that

Let alone Ukrainians

Mol1t confirmed the number means nothing anyway

[charred nova]

Melt him down into soup

[vale shadow]

Im doing that sometimes when I talk to americans

[vale shadow]

What if it's part of a secret quest

[charred nova]

It’s 3 numbers

It’s a date or it’s nothing

In this case it’s nothing

[robust pendant]

I wish I could say "f*ck you"😭

[main jewel]

and then ill drink it

[charred nova]

Fuck you too buddy

[robust pendant]

WOLF YOU MISSED THIS ONE

[charred nova]

We command wolf

He can not control us

[main jewel]

“everyday the void of heartbreaking silence from gsc carves a uneven hole into my heart that only an rpd can fit” GSC PLEASEEEE LISTEN TO MY CALLLLLLLLL GIVE US SOME NEWS AND BRING BACK THE RPD

gsc im the only girl who plays games and washes dishes please bro

[charred nova]

Certified girl gamer

[main jewel]

like

gsc if your shy then i can talk for ypu

[charred nova]

Lexa will seduce gsc

[serene barn]

i wonder if it's possible to clear out the Chemical Plant during the escape without the alarm going off

[charred nova]

But jokes aside one more month

Then we can get excited

[shell flax]

https://tenor.com/view/mag-dump-paul-harrell-m16-rifle-rifle-range-gif-3190806691382410079

[deft tartan]

I’ve heard the exact same phrase a month ago

[charred nova]

I mean that’s pure cope

Summer is summer

[scenic scarab]

Vrag monolita!

[charred nova]

Summer hasn’t started yet

Summer starts June 1st

Ends with August

[deft tartan]

True, if the DLC doesn’t get delayed to autumn or winter

[charred nova]

Indeed

Probably will

[main jewel]

everyone gets scared on the stage

eeeuuuhh eeehhuuueeee 😢

[charred nova]

Wdym

[main jewel]

CAN MY MESSAGES LOADDD

for what

a wasteland of nothingness!??!!?!?!?!??!?!!???!??!

today is a day of disappointment

[main jewel]

my message didnt loaf

that was after the uh i can speak for gsc trust if they r shy

[charred nova]

Oh lol

[dusty rivet]

How far into the game do u get night vision goggles? I cant see shit at night

[south wasp]

Loaf

[shell flax]

Get past Seven Seals and once you open the map up fully you can find em in some merchants

[south wasp]

Mmm, a hungry bandit thinks of bread

[proven hollow]

#🤨┃stalker_memes message

[serene barn]

damn my game crashed

[main jewel]

MESSAGES LOAD HOLY

OH MY GODDD

@meager crag my internet is too bad but i think this pfp aint it so wrm can you tell them to do something about it

the uh lambo8484_11664 btw crimsok

crimson

LOADDDD MESSAGES

[serene barn]

that pfp looks fake af

fun, now my steam won't sync the saves

[main jewel]

okau hopefully my internet works but having a pfp like that in a server full of minors aint it so please change it

i think its working now guys

[dusty rivet]

Fixed

[serene barn]

man what do i do now, i feel like i will be put back a lot lol.

[dusty rivet]

So im like 2 hours in, so i wont see nvg anytime soon?

[main jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1456489231143928015/1502691953655943310/IMG_0077.gif

[scenic scarab]

Si corro stalker 2 en mi pc la pobre se funde y me quema la casa

[shell flax]

Have you opened up the rest of the Zone?

[dusty rivet]

Not sure what this means, i JUST got to the first town, Valis-something

[brittle charm]

Nothing ever happens

[shell flax]

Keep following the story, it’ll open soon

[pure harness]

Hello, I went here looking for some help.
I'm playing Stalker 2 on pc, patch 1.9.
Is it just me, or does aiming and shooting in this game feel straight up horrible? I literally can't hit any enemy further than 5 meters from me, I keep mag dumping and missing every single shot. I think it was bearable for a while, but I'm 5 minutes into ||Faust|| boss fight and I'm just about to rage quit. For me it feels like this game was made with aim assist in mind, which is not even accessible without a pad

[dusty rivet]

How will i know that its opened up fully?

[shell flax]

A character depending on your choices will tell you how to leave the lesser zone

[serene barn]

are you shooting the guy because for Faust you're supposed to shoot the "lamp" on his waist.

[pure harness]

Faust is just the example. My problem is that I'm not shooting anything

[shell flax]

What mods are you using if any

[serene barn]

er idk, i am able to hit things fairly fine enough.

[main jewel]

destroy the lamps

okay so erm the gun play is fine its justbthe uh faust fight is weird, usually a rpg can just one shot him

then rpg him

he died

dies

[pure harness]

none

[shell flax]

Are you just flipping to auto and letting it rip?

[pure harness]

Not really, if I ever switch to full auto then only for short bursts

[shell flax]

Can we just get a personal role for Lexa that just says ‘Ass internet’

[main jewel]

i would like that

[shell flax]

I’m gonna be honest dude this doesn’t seem like a bug or anything, so you’re just missing every shot on Faust?

[pure harness]

It's like the 3rd time I'm saying that Faust is just an example, I'm talking about the whole game

[serene barn]

i wish Steam would like, tell me exactly why it's not syncing my saves instead of just telling me it can't a second after i hit the retry button.

[pure harness]

I've been playing around with sensivity for a while now and no matter what I do, my mouse feels like it's covered in molasses

[serene barn]

whenever someone talks about having issues like yours i just wonder what their gameplay looks like.

[pure harness]

Not pleasantly

I guess I'll play around some more

[serene barn]

like i don't have that issue so idk what's going on, on your end.

[golden gulch]

You need to shoot his lamp, not sure if RPG will do, or even explosive in general

[digital geyser]

What mods do you have? did you verify game files?

[charred nova]

Verify game files

[serene barn]

finally, the cloud saves synced

[small quest]

uninstall game — wait another year

[meager crag]

Oh, you mean the boob window one?

We actually talked about it yesterday, but Kuro and Jeb thought it was fine

Which, honestly, is very expected

[serene barn]

still feels weird to pull out the "server full of minors" card for a server for games i am fairly sure is rated for adults

like HoC is PEGI rated 18

[meager crag]

To be fair, it's a parental advice thing, doesn't mean it's always the case

[serene barn]

and the Trilogy Collectin seems to also be 18

[meager crag]

I know CoP is 16

Not sure about the rest

[serene barn]

sure i just find it weird a way that we gotta consider the kids even when they shouldn't be here in the first place.

[meager crag]

But in general, crotch shots and large boob windows are just kinda yikes

[serene barn]

i'm not gonna disagree there. like there is no reason to pick those type of shots for a Profile Picture.

[main jewel]

erm it should destroy the lamp too

cause thats how he dies

yeah it do

cause you dont shoot faust at all when you destroy his hip lamp it starts the cutscene

[main jewel]

yup

[meager crag]

Yeah, I suppose. The games are 16-18+ but that's just a parental advice thing and the server is accessible to basically anyone tbf

[main jewel]

its a suggestive pfp

and erm

thats kinda the point of those dresses too

kitty

who wants a cat

[meager crag]

Well, I already got a dumped cat here

So I'll leave that kitty for some other Chad

[serene barn]

think when i'm done with my Spark run imma find videos on 2 to watch. like lore n stuff. gotta be stuff i didn't pick up on.

[sleek hemlock]

Me

[main jewel]

here you go

[sleek hemlock]

Thanks I'm actually a cat person

[frozen stratus]

Hah!

[dreamy dagger]

20 mins till GSC either does an announcement or buries this game forever

[marble gyro]

20 mins till break is over and I continue making this bread

[small quest]

the lack of comms creates the nonsense hopium in this community

speak to your customers GSC you mutts

[meager crag]

Hope is the first step to disappointment

[slender abyss]

An emission just finished like five minutes ago and I went to the poisonous hole for an artifact farm and there's no artifact is this a bug?

[shell flax]

No. Especially if you just grabbed an artifact there, emissions don’t respawn every single artifact zone.

[robust pendant]

What do you want them to communicate tho?
"Hey, we dont have it yet, but we are still working on it!"
It's what they always have been doing in #📜┃gsc-answers

[dusky pawn]

It seems the cost of cope is just a mild aneurysm

[small quest]

Roadmap

[small quest]

Answers channel is a joke.

[robust pendant]

Roadmap for what? For something they dont have? Its more hopium

[visual mortar]

they always be talking about roadmaps .. what about railmaps..

[dusky pawn]

Clearly the weird scribble in some trailer/image must be a secret roadmap release date

[proven hollow]

not that far fetched from a company that places extensive intricate puzzles in its games for people to solve...

[dreamy dagger]

So was that binoculars hint for May 12... a troll?

[regal pulsar]

Kinda yes

No UE 5.5.4 for today

I curse that stupid video

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-gamer-monitor-throw-monitor-destroy-polish-guy-gif-24975315

[foggy olive]

Wasn't that on April 1st?

[dreamy dagger]

At this point.... GSC is trolling people that keep their company up...

[robust pendant]

It was April 1st Krezzin

[dreamy dagger]

@waxen marten I want a refund!

[robust pendant]

Although it was a pretty stupid troll because its something that many genuinely ask

Im sure they'll add it (sometime) thi

[still edge]

stalker 2 is just a bunch of letters

[regal pulsar]

And numbers

[still edge]

alife is just a word

[regal pulsar]

Still communication between community and Devs could be better

[dreamy dagger]

Fvck this game. I'm out!

[still edge]

suss community support by GSC

[foggy olive]

I already said it. People made up their own date and started praying for it. Then they started getting angry. And then they got disappointed (because they fooled themselves). Did anyone really believe that it would happen? I replied in the chat that nothing would happen, lol.

[dark granite]

guys does anyone have time to help me with stalker gamma error cus i cant join there discord

[robust pendant]

Make a fake account and ask there

[dark granite]

i tried but i still cant join

[robust pendant]

#🔩┃trilogy_modifications
And pray someone answers

[still edge]

i mean , why would a promotional image for the game with a clear image of "12/05" would mean anything at all , its not like the devs do subtle foreshadowing ever

[shell flax]

On April fools?

[regal pulsar]

Managers had plenty of time to say that nothing is going to happen on May 12. But in the end they just said it today

And as someone said before GSC often puts hints into their videos, so it was only natural to wonder what might happen today

Plus, we were promised an engine update by the end of 2025, and 5 months after that we basically know nothing

So GSC has it coming

[still edge]

thats super suss

[river chasm]

I dunno that they can be held accountable for the spontaneous delirium of the players

[dreamy dagger]

GSC are at this point scammers

[still edge]

why deny it on the same day

[river chasm]

Next we're gonna be reading tea leaves to figure out the release date

[dreamy dagger]

I want my money back

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-maytech-monolith-prayer-gif-16869366242639767810

[foggy olive]

wasn't this an April Fool's joke that came out banally because people wrote "give us binoculars!" to which they simply dropped the video as a joke?🤣

[river chasm]

The video was indeed an April fools upload, a reference to a prior April fools video of a knife model

[foggy olive]

Considering that update releases are postponed quite often, everyone really expected something to come out today, in my opinion, this is very naive.

[regal pulsar]

You can argue that posting the video was a joke, but the date was legit

And as I said, the next day GSC simply could explain that the date is a joke as well. They would have less problems and middle fingers in their latest post

[forest bluff]

Middle fingers that they turned off

[foggy olive]

with such success you can look for any new date like the Aztecs and when nothing happens sacrifice someone with the date change

[forest bluff]

Clearly don't want the actual feed back about the fact that letting the community hype itself up will come back on them regardless cause people won't blame themselves

[river chasm]

It's definitely easier than admitting it was pretty obviously dumb to hype yourself up over an incidental texture in an April fools video

I wouldn't have expected it to require clarification either

[foggy olive]

Of course not, no one wants to feel like a fool

Even though I guessed it would happen and wrote that nothing would happen, people still believed in some magic numbers they found

[forest bluff]

I figured nothing would happen but still wish it could have been lol

[dreamy dagger]

Yeah, you put "random letters" on your 3D models... by accident

[foggy olive]

There was another date on the table where the new engine was written, maybe the sect that believes in the Mayan/Aztec calendar will move it to a new date and then start doom day again?

[regal pulsar]

I think the bigger problem here is that we have been waiting for so long for this update and after so long we still know basically nothing
So no wonder GSC received backlash

[foggy olive]

it was that video where the zombies are in the room and there's also some kind of date there

[regal pulsar]

And they probably will get even more with NDA type of answers

[forest bluff]

Ita just silly this lack of communication is why so many people are pissed rn

[regal pulsar]

As far as I remember there is only 5.5.4 number

[meager crag]

Hopium never ends well tbf

[foggy olive]

people there found some more numbers on the table 😄

[river chasm]

But this is probably also why there is not more communication

[foggy olive]

I can look it up if you're interested, although I don't believe in those dates

[forest bluff]

If it were clear concise it would be good but it's the almost trolling they are doing now

[bold smelt]

Did stoc delude itself into thinking something ever happens again

[foggy olive]

Did anyone ask what will happen on 12.05 and is anything planned? There seems to be only 1 question and it was answered

[dreamy dagger]

Grigorovych Scam Company. #ChangeMyMind

[bold smelt]

Cheesy

[regal pulsar]

Nobody knew anything but everyone had hope for something

[dreamy dagger]

There's no hope with this company, man

All it does is it wants more money via discounts

[bold smelt]

Wait so did people get hyped up by numbers on binoculars, what were the numbers

[dreamy dagger]

Max Krippa should be put in jail for at least 15 years

[bold smelt]

You are getting way too emotional over a video game

[scenic scaffold]

maybe they shouldn't put random numbers on models that don't have any meaning. I mean, these guys throw ARG's puzzles all the time and expect people to not speculate it's a date of some sort? i don't buy that it's just a number.

[still edge]

i take it back, the binoculars 12/05 was an april´s fools joke, nothing to complain about ,we got bamboozled

i didnt realize it was release 1 of april

[dreamy dagger]

Me?

[foggy olive]

come on, with this much success we can set a new date, have hope again, and nothing else will happen

[bold smelt]

Are you sure they didnt say 12/50? Because thats literally just the magnification

[scenic scaffold]

does it say 12/50?

[regal pulsar]

It is the best you can have with such outrageous communication from Devs

Ngl

[dreamy dagger]

**management

Devs arent the issue, the incompetent management (prolly having their diplomas bought, lol, how else...) is

[bold smelt]

I wouldnt know thats why im asking you

I didnt bother overanalyzing a 5 minute april fools joke

[scenic scaffold]

considering it says "12/05" idk how that would be mistaken for the magnification of "12/50"

[bold smelt]

I dont get how that would be mistaken for a date either

Thats a huge reach

[scenic scaffold]

in european countries they do dates 12/05/2026

[dreamy dagger]

Dont bother peeps

[scenic scaffold]

for may

[bold smelt]

European countries do it wrong

[regal pulsar]

For example, there are tons of bugs after patch 1.8, when do we get any fixes? Who knows , Devs continue to keep silence

[dreamy dagger]

This game is half dead (dead serious)

[scenic scaffold]

either way. they shot themselves in the foot.

nobody trusts them lol

[deft plume]

well, they need to pull of bunch of fixes before dlc, if not, then there is no need to buy dlc at all

[scenic scaffold]

and they will leave people in the dark until they feel like gracing us with news for the $80 dollar game

[foggy olive]

here you have one more data lol

[foggy olive]

Is there a year listed there?

[scenic scaffold]

not that i can see

[bold smelt]

It could be 5/12/2027

[foggy olive]

or 2033

or 2039

[scenic scaffold]

yup

[deft plume]

to be honest, I got burned once , since this was the only game I bought without looking at reviews or waiting, just to be beta tester in a half baked game with false marketing...now I wait and see if they can deliver since I love franchise, but love alone is not enough, they need to cook 😄

[bold smelt]

My theory is it probably was an actual teaser but they couldnt get it done in time so they pushed it back silently

[scenic scaffold]

that is also my theory

[frigid hill]

hannybuns has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[foggy olive]

here we are again, you give yourself vain hope again

[bold smelt]

I dont really have hope, i liked s2 when it came out and already finished playing it, i dont need hope that itll be good since i already like it

[scenic scaffold]

they bailed cause they can't fix the game fast enough lmao

[foggy olive]

In general, the higher the expectations for something, the greater the disappointment, so I don't see the point in it at all. Whatever happens, happens.

[dreamy dagger]

You further fuel my theory about GSC.. being Griga's scam company

[scenic scaffold]

So with the 12/05 being a nothing burger ig we can all assume the 5.5.4 is probably just a nothing burger as well

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-back-gif-7570332286871639068

[scenic scaffold]

it's the same type of message

idk why the 5.5.4 would be different

[foggy olive]

There won't be a WOW effect, but it should help in some ways

[main jewel]

ooouygghhhh

[foggy olive]

because people are taking GZW as an example which improves performance when migrating from 5.00

[main jewel]

mol1tussle said the numbers mean nothing

our only hope

[regal pulsar]

Gsc spent so much time on this update, so if there is no wow effect, what is the point of so much efforts

[scenic scaffold]

so 5.5.4 means nothing

[regal pulsar]

Cuz it's just a number as well

[main jewel]

the date on the binoculars

[foggy olive]

I played GZW at 5.00 and now. Did it somehow get super better and the increase in fps is 100? No. Did the strange fps drops from 140 to 40 disappear when aiming and other things? Yes

[main jewel]

5.5.4 is specifically the engine

thats just gsc confirming that its that engine

but the binocular numbers mean nothing

[scenic scaffold]

so they confirmed the numbers are something

[main jewel]

it was a prolonged april fools joke

the binoculars

[scenic scaffold]

bad joke

[main jewel]

but 5.5.4 is obviously just the new engine

[scenic scaffold]

nobodies laughing

[foggy olive]

I'm not a developer so don't ask me. Maybe they just want to somehow bring it to normal but with a very long term

[main jewel]

that is common knowledge

[scenic scaffold]

im cool with the engine update. the only reason ik 5.5.4 is real cause of the roadmap (thankgod they put that out)

[main jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1456489231143928015/1502691953655943310/IMG_0077.gif

[foggy olive]

I've been laughing for 2 days in a row.

[scenic scaffold]

bad humor ig idk

[foggy olive]

I wrote about this yesterday but no one believed it.

[scenic scaffold]

i seen.

[wicked magnet]

not humor just humiliation

[foggy olive]

Well, you can always come up with a new date and believe in it. No one will limit you in this

[hardy totem]

Do we need to send help?

[placid estuary]

All I'm seeing is a schizorambling of people, who took a mere fan theory about the meaning of some random marks on binoculars (which originated from the ARG Discord channel & was spread by a couple of specific YTbers) as a gospel & something GSC have always specifically intended. You're kinda crazy, lads. As was rightfully pointed out earlier, the April Fools vid was nothing more than a callback to the one posted several years back featuring a combat knife, as well as a slight hint to address one of the WIP points of the latest available roadmap. It's totally on masses to blame themselves for the dеlusіоns of their literal own making, GSC's not supposed nor obligated to follow & pay attention to every single аssрull this community comes up with.

[foggy olive]

Rather, help is needed by those who are disappointed. Because they waited until the last for their 2nd coming, which did not happen.

[placid estuary]

Second coming of what? Meds.

[scenic scaffold]

at the end of the day, im just gonna go back to GAMMA till dlc drop

[foggy olive]

mean the 2.0 patch

[scenic scaffold]

just more disappointed that there isnt a teaser or something today. but if the goal was to troll then Congrats on the april fools joke, you suuuuuuuure got em.

[placid estuary]

It's in the works, what is your point?

[smoky hawk]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/new-arsenal-7/downloads/new-arsenal-71

[main jewel]

well it was a april fools joke bro

theres a reason the binocular video was released on april 1st

but erm gsc needs to communicate more

[foggy olive]

that people come up with sacred dates for themselves and believe in them, and when nothing happens, angry posts about deception begin

[placid estuary]

Why specifically today? Because someone in the ARG channel has zoomed in on a random mark on a model showcased in the April Fools video, a particular YTber went on to make the whole ahh video about it & everyone immediately took it as a divine sign? Do you hear yourself?

[foggy olive]

This all reminds me of some Mayans and Aztecs. Only without the sacrifices lol

[scenic scaffold]

Brother, people in here are starving for info for stalker 2 progress

[smoky hawk]

they havce done this before

[main jewel]

OBLIVION LOST MENTIONNNN

OBLIVION LOST MENTIONNN

AHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA

[smoky hawk]

dont act like this isnt a popular PR Move

[main jewel]

LEEHH LEEHHHH LEH

[hardy totem]

Weren't they right though? Don't you remember the world coming to an end in 2012?

[placid estuary]

What is your evidence for the marks on binos being a PR move & not just a random part of the model?

[foggy olive]

This is what today looks like for fans😅

[main jewel]

well its so people talk about it

this server was absolutely dead before hand

now everyones mad

then when gsc does have an announcement

people will be more excited

lets all not be excited for the next announcement guys

[smoky hawk]

I dont have proof that it is, I have proof that it isnt
but thats not what I said, I said that GSC has done this stunt for Hype before, and this isnt uncommon in PR, so GSC shouldve known

[main jewel]

itll show them

[scenic scaffold]

of course they're going to get hyped. im not saying they have to. they're obv going to do what they want. they only answer questions 1 or 2 a week. the announcements give no answers.

[smoky hawk]

if the CMs didnt want the date to be seen as an important one they couldve sent this message 2 weeks ago
#📜┃gsc-answers message

[scenic scaffold]

yup

[main jewel]

ougg

[scenic scaffold]

they wanted that hype on purpose

[smoky hawk]

also, Fast Travel is already in the game, why are people asking for it

[main jewel]

people want the fallout 4 bethesda one

or slash gamma one

one of those 2

open the pda and press a poi and teleport

thats what most people want

[foggy olive]

I wonder if anyone asked about this in the questions 2 weeks ago? If so, then of course you can have complaints, but if not, what's the problem?

[main jewel]

a handful want the ability to ask random npcs to guide you to where they are going

[hardy totem]

YeAh bUT it ISn'T fASt eNOUgh

[main jewel]

it’s genuinely the most mind fingering stupid thinf ever

[smoky hawk]

Mol1t couldve talked about it outside of that channel, he couldve said it here and rectified stuff, but they didnt, despite being a popular theory

[scenic scaffold]

imagine being a stan for GSC

[scenic scaffold]

they knew what they were doing.

[foggy olive]

with such success we can create a theory about 15.08 for example and expand it and then demand explanations why nothing happened

[main jewel]

i love gsc but i god bro i wish we had like more communication

[scenic scaffold]

NDA's for VIDEO GAMES is beyond moronic

[frigid hill]

ilcp. has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[placid estuary]

They should've foreseen some random schizo x10 zooming on a particular part of the model whilst coming up with some BS & not create the model the way it was or should've addressed this idiocy specifically when there are dozens of tasks and questions to reply at hand? Are we mentally well or there is indeed some "slight overreaction" going on?

[main jewel]

wrm well

not really

uhm

[scenic scaffold]

To the extent that most publishers take it. yes

[foggy olive]

agrred

[main jewel]

gsc is just really protective

[scenic scaffold]

I don't believe in NDA's so there isn't any debates to beheld

[main jewel]

[scenic scaffold]

so is rockstar and all that crap

[smoky hawk]

it was GSC themselves that zoomed into the model and showcased it, they have shown that they do this kind of PR all the time, its not at all unreasonable to expect this from GSC, and the CMs job is to gauge and clear things with the community, I expect them to see what the community is saying and acting, and rectify it when it isnt right
I havent seen any overreaction when the most I have seen until now is ha ho well, I expected that
I think youre the one overreacting on how little reaction people have

[main jewel]

theres nothing wrong with that

i just WISSHHH we could hear more

but they have their reasons

ho ho ho meerryy chritismaa

[still edge]

but it was release in the 1th of april

i didnt realize it was an april´s fool

[placid estuary]

Are you trying to tell me GSC themselves have zoomed in on the marks & have put the emphasis on em? My guy, did you watch the video? It's literally a model of binoculars floating in the air & rotating, nothing else. What you've grown to expect from that silly video is your personal concern, not at all something to blame & call the company scammers for, which has indeed what's been going on in the chat, ICYMI.

[odd sky]

Because of the leaks and threats against gsc employees

[scenic scaffold]

continuity, consistency, and transparency is all i freaking ask for

[smoky hawk]

yes, it was them that made the texture, put the numbers there, made an entire video of the model floating in a 3d white space showcasing those numbers, its them literally showing them to me, and I am not, nor have I seen, GSC being called scammers for this

I have seen people being disappointed, from this particular incident

[visual mortar]

dude what

its proprietary property of course they're going to have NDAs

[scenic scaffold]

ik alot of people won't agree with me.

[smoky hawk]

we can browse your history of saying stupid shit for clicks

[visual mortar]

you can't go and ask cheezit for their recipe of their crackers, its NDA and proprietary

genuinely a silly take

[placid estuary]

It was totally about the numbers & not the binos, wasn't it? Meds.

[smoky hawk]

as you say

I shall take my arsenic pills

[visual mortar]

"i know i said something retarded"

[scenic scaffold]

Ik ik. there is a lot there to unpack

[hardy totem]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-feline-meme-funny-gif-8764472215214951735

[frigid axle]

Vanilla Veteran Playthrough is sucking my soul out

[scenic scaffold]

NDA's can be very dangerous

[visual mortar]

didn't think this far ahead, did you

[visual mortar]

how

[scenic scaffold]

Diddy

[visual mortar]

yup

[frigid axle]

what is even the convo about

[hardy totem]

General derailment

[visual mortar]

this Diddyblud thinks he typin on a calculator

[scenic scaffold]

and a lot of other companies that kinda hold people hostage cause of it. im not saying GSC or video games are THAT crazy. i just think NDA's are very extreme especially when applied to video game super secret recipes (it's all UE5)\

[frigid axle]

[scenic scaffold]

NDA's aren't all inherently bad.

[visual mortar]

do you know what a NDA is/does

[frigid axle]

Noon Door Account?

[visual mortar]

yep yep

that's it

you got it

[frigid axle]

National Degyatrev Anus

[visual mortar]

no not it

[charred nova]

If you could not have NDAs for a game people could just leak literally everything about it

[frigid axle]

Nullified Dumpster Anecdote

[charred nova]

and face no legal consequences

[scenic scaffold]

most people would play anyway

since most people don't make video games

[native idol]

Nehoda dihh Agency is clearly the only choice

[visual mortar]

but thats not the point

[charred nova]

they could go on public forms and post the entire game months in advance and no one could do anything about it

[scenic scaffold]

i mean i know the ending of most of the movies i watch

[scenic scaffold]

Didn't a stalker 2 build leak

[frigid axle]

it doesn't mean everyone should know

[visual mortar]

every single little detail could be shared and possibly replicated, so then GSC would essentially have no purpose

[scenic scaffold]

and everyone still ended up buying it

[charred nova]

yup and im sure gsc would have taken action had the person behind it been caught

[visual mortar]

yeah but because of it they had to change things

[scenic scaffold]

like, even if there is transparency for a something, you can still enjoy it

[visual mortar]

like the hl2 leak

[frigid axle]

you're the type of guy who would spoil the End of Avengers Endgame and act like it's not big deal

[charred nova]

end game was mid

bad example

[scenic scaffold]

well.. it's just a movie.. so it isn't a big deal

just like games.. aren't that big of a deal.

[frigid axle]

I saw a lotta lotta memes about it back when it came out,

"oh yea btw Iron man dies"

[visual mortar]

the fuck you mean "just a movie"

[scenic scaffold]

it was a good movie. but just a movie

[visual mortar]

it was the top grossing film of all time

[charred nova]

if i piss all over your bathroom floor it's not a big deal you can just clean it up right?

[scenic scaffold]

i prefered age of ultron

[charred nova]

so why does it matter

[hardy totem]

Or the recent avatar movie leak, "yeah that's fine!"

[visual mortar]

ah gee all business is boiled down to just a thing yeah

[scenic scaffold]

that's not the same as a movie or video game

[charred nova]

why not?

[visual mortar]

i suppose those government documents leaked about prototype weaponry... its just guns though

[charred nova]

if you spoil a movie its just annoying afterall

[scenic scaffold]

those are mediums. you are physically pissing on my floor

[visual mortar]

retarded bait

2/10

[charred nova]

if i piss on your floor it's also annoying

[frigid axle]

Ai slop is just images and no creativity, nothing bad

[dreamy plover]

shi needs fing up yall lets go

[charred nova]

yet you have a problem if i do that but not if i ruin a movie for you

[visual mortar]

wookie

[scenic scaffold]

pissing on the floor doesn't = spoiling a movie

[frigid axle]

btw in stalker 3,the domino of sidorocich, Skif dies at the end

[scenic scaffold]

try again

[visual mortar]

what is this logic

[dreamy plover]

im gonna be a good boy today dont worry

[hardy totem]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-emoji-disintegrating-emoji-disappearing-meme-21st-century-gif-24891417

[scenic scaffold]

that's what im saying

[frigid axle]

how did bro get the 4k gif

[visual mortar]

no what is YOUR logic

[hardy totem]

Jack gave it to me if I recall correctly

[scenic scaffold]

oh i forgot it's an echo chamber in here

[visual mortar]

obviously pissing on the floor isn't the EXACT same as spoiling a movie moron

[dreamy plover]

jack was 10 000 bc names ago

[scenic scaffold]

holy fugg it's retarded in here

[visual mortar]

the point is NDA protects the company from exposing all of their secrets

[scenic scaffold]

yes

[visual mortar]

yeah the people with sense are retarded ..m

[visual mortar]

so then what are you getting at

[frigid axle]

If you're the only one who thinks differently, i think you're the only one who's like that my guy

[visual mortar]

hollow knocking sound

[hardy totem]

-# "Holy shit it smells of retard in here, open a goddamn window"

[dreamy plover]

Sin is that you bro

[charred nova]

So are you saying just because the secrets are for a game

[visual mortar]

i made that up

[charred nova]

they don't matter

[frigid axle]

there's an emission though

[visual mortar]

sin didn't come up with that

[charred nova]

and you should be allowed to leak them

[scenic scaffold]

I'll conceide. NDA's are necessary

[visual mortar]

dont give him credit

sin isnt funny

[dreamy plover]

funny < based

[frigid axle]

@marble gyro you're such a funny guy, tampico took your pun

[dreamy plover]

boy their struggling with that update yall. gta6 before ue 5.4.4

[hardy totem]

Alright gentlemen, I could stay here and observe the bickering

But I don't want to

Ciao

[dreamy plover]

They're

[merry saddle]

Patrolling the zone will make you wish for a nuclear spring.

[scenic scaffold]

i'll admit that NDA's are necessary. but i'll die on the hill that they hurt video game development more than it helps it.

especially games with such huge communities like stalker

[frigid axle]

guys how do i make the sound of like, metal and handling a little more loud than the other sounds? i like the sounds of reloading, switching guns, and taking out your gun in general, how do i amplify them? the Narrow dynamic range doesn't do much

[robust pendant]

I think this person doesnt know the concept of "scrapped projects / goals"

[visual mortar]

[scenic scaffold]

so if i knew what was supposed to be there and was taken out, i wouldn't play the game?

[visual mortar]

weird hill to immediately die on

[visual mortar]

i mean yeah?

false expectations

NDAs prevent that

[scenic scaffold]

Maybe its because i follow alot of EA games where there is a lot more transparency.

[visual mortar]

if you spill every little detail about a game during development including cut and changed content you would have false expectations

[robust pendant]

you dont have to know every single detail of development. Imagine if a valve employee didnt have NDA. The amount of projects they were like "OMG WE HAVE THIS GUYS YOU DONT KNOW WHAT'S COMING" to be scrapped like 6 months later

[visual mortar]

no its about the same lmao

they definitely have NDAs too

[robust pendant]

"I follow a lof ot EA games" ma brooooooooooooodaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, holy shiiiiiiiiiit

daaaaaaaaaayum, what a way to end it

[scenic scaffold]

good god. can you guys not have a conversation without being derrogative as hell?

[robust pendant]

I can, I just dont want to

not in this case at least, cause its funny as hell that you mentioned EA games in this type of talk

[scenic scaffold]

The EA games i follow are pretty transparent

Road to Vostok / The Path into the Abyss

[robust pendant]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH, you mean Early Access, not EA the company

[scenic scaffold]

to expect the same out of AAA is goofy

[robust pendant]

I retract what I said then, my b

[scenic scaffold]

oh okay.

that makes sense

Yeah, early access tends to have more transparency and it makes it actually more fun to follow along than everything being secretive

[shell flax]

I had the same thought and I was confused as hell for a bit

[scenic scaffold]

but that is up to personal preference ig. idk.

i like to know what im paying for

[visual mortar]

dude, you're arguing something that just doesn't work, its very silly

[shell flax]

Truthfully having to jump between jobs the last year or so, I haven’t been following 100% so the secrecy doesn’t really bug me

[visual mortar]

not necessarily

[scenic scaffold]

I know. cause NDA is pretty much embedded into the industry. im barking up the wrong tree and it's unneccessary

[visual mortar]

regardless of what they show, if they have a studio and a team, they are still all under NDA, because there is definitely stuff you won't ever see

[scenic scaffold]

and they can hurt the employee'

[visual mortar]

they choose to show you what they want you to see

[visual mortar]

you never explained how

[scenic scaffold]

discussing fixes or bugs things of that nature

they have to wait for the company to publish it officially. blah blah

[visual mortar]

why are they discussing it

its internal why are they talking about it

if they are a blabbermouth thats on them

oh I just HAVE to share company secrets ohhh its so PAINFUL

[scenic scaffold]

when i was reading about NDA

It can overreach to employees discussing stuff to each other

[shell flax]

Fast track to getting blacklisted

[scenic scaffold]

i mean, it all comes down to who made the specifics and crap. i

[visual mortar]

what

if its internal its internal

[scenic scaffold]

NDAs sometimes prohibit employees from discussing working conditions, crunch culture, or management problems

[visual mortar]

you genuinely are not understanding what an NDA is for. its legally binding someon to not disclose business sensitive material to the public

[scenic scaffold]

yes. im talking about the overreach that NDA's can often have

it is what it is. Stalker 2 got hacked and leaked anyway. NDA didn't stop it.

[shell flax]

What the fuck does a breach have to do with NDAs

[digital plinth]

[scenic scaffold]

NDA's are overused as a security blanket

[shell flax]

What does NDA stand for

[scenic scaffold]

Im not disagreeing with you. a hack is different than a leak

[visual mortar]

because the people who leaked it were cyberterrorists and not under NDA

i dont think a criminal would follow the law

[visual mortar]

they are genuinely not

its literally for keeping internal secrets

[shell flax]

For game devs it would be shit like in house engine stuff

[dusky pawn]

NDAs and non competes are the scourge of many industries but I think people here think you are talking about them specifically in context of fun game information

[visual mortar]

and management, hr, business models, funding, cyber security, network organization, etc

more than that

[dusky pawn]

Or just silencing someone in fear of them spreading information about improper work ethic like slaughterhouses that force practicing students to not share anything about what goes inside in fear of being exposed for...honestly they dont even fear exposing irregularities they are just scared of the general public being more aware of the process lmao

[scenic scaffold]

This is the type of shit that needs to be protected. Im not debating that at all

[dusky pawn]

Yeah he is debating forcing employees into NDAs only to shut them up regarding shady practices which does happen

[visual mortar]

no shit, but you're not understanding that the game is their product and falls into thes e categories

[dusky pawn]

The game is irrelevant to what this person is actually trying to say

[visual mortar]

no it is not

[dusky pawn]

Yes it is

[visual mortar]

refer to the actual origin of the topic

the whole argument is that the NDA over the game is harmful to the employees

this conversation is specific to game development

NDAs protect the studio and the public

[scenic scaffold]

Uh..

[visual mortar]

simple as

[dusky pawn]

it seems you are the only one saying that

[visual mortar]

saying qhat

[dusky pawn]

.

[scenic scaffold]

i mentioned diddy. i mentioned movies. i mentioned games

[dusky pawn]

I mentioned slaughterhouses

[visual mortar]

??

what the fuck is this argument rhen

you're just agreeing that NDAs are needed

[dusky pawn]

A part of a larger conversation that has many facets to it ?

[visual mortar]

like?

[scenic scaffold]

multiple examples of how NDA's are unnecessary?

[visual mortar]

what examples?

leaks? internal discussion?

those are under nda

???

[scenic scaffold]

are you under NDA?

[visual mortar]

makes an argument and then doesn't stick to it

[dreamy plover]

kids still arguing

[visual mortar]

for what?

at my job? yeah

highly sensitive material

[dusky pawn]

I dont even have a job and im under an NDA

Just to pass another year of uni

[visual mortar]

i really doubt that

[dreamy plover]

I am righter than you

[dusky pawn]

I have a 2 week practice at a slaughterhouse regarding post slaughter carcass examination and pre slaughter animal examination for which I have to sign an NDA to even be allowed to enter the premises

[visual mortar]

so yeah you worked there

makes sense

[dreamy plover]

more righteous?

[dusky pawn]

No

I dont 'work' i dont get payed and ive never been there

[visual mortar]

what do you mean no

[visual mortar]

so the why the fuck were you there

[dusky pawn]

Im simply observing someone else work and im supposed to learn

[visual mortar]

thats related your education duh

[dusky pawn]

And I will be there in 2 months but the paperwork is done already

[visual mortar]

its sensitive

and specific to this business

of course they're not going to let EVERYONE in

you have to agree to their terms

why is this a bad thing

[dusky pawn]

Its essential to my education and its not sensitive its just to protect the owner so that I cant speak about anything that goes inside to anyone other than authorities

[visual mortar]

yes

that literally means its sensitive

you signed an NDA to protect business and industry secrets

[dusky pawn]

The process of slaughter is not a secret in any way

[visual mortar]

yes it is

it is how they compete

[dusky pawn]

The NDA does not even entail the technology in fact

[visual mortar]

their business exists as competition

if everything is exposed then what's the point

[visual mortar]

so then it includes the rest of the shit i talked about

[dusky pawn]

It is only aimed at preventing students from exposing irregularities in animal treatment or the process of meat handling to the public

[visual mortar]

[dusky pawn]

Nope

[visual mortar]

true
.

the corruption.... the control... ..
. . .

if its illegal it is not under NDA btw

thats why whistleblowers are a thing

[dusky pawn]

All the machinery is built by 3rd party the software for them is 3rd party meanwhile the process of slaughter and the building layout and construction+employee training and behavior is regulated by law

[visual mortar]

so its an empty document that says "don't."

[visual mortar]

awesome so what is the problem

[dusky pawn]

Dont speak about what goes on inside regarding animals and animal products

[visual mortar]

makes sense

[blazing ingot]

Break into the Cordon farm, film the terrible conditions that fleshes have to live in.
-# ⓘ Signed • 𝓜𝓸𝓷𝓼𝓽𝓮𝓻 𝓘𝓷 𝓐 𝓓𝓻𝓪𝔀𝓮𝓻 👑

[visual mortar]

oh its my favorite guy

[dusky pawn]

The problem is that this makes procuring educational material harder and makes it harder to actually improve the well being of animals inside because the only person we'd be allowed to report to is the regional admin vet who is honestly quite limited in their power or sometimes complacent in the practices that take place

[visual mortar]

how is it harder. it narrows down the material to specifically authorized students, preventing all sorts of security breaches

[dusky pawn]

Police has 0 authority here so if the vet was complacent the only other way of exerting influence would realistically be the internet mob/media pressure which the NDA prevents

[visual mortar]

"police has 0 authority '

what

[dusky pawn]

Yes

[shell flax]

What the fuck do you mean the police have 0 authority

[visual mortar]

where the fuck are you, Brazil

cartel run mexican state?

the Philippines?

[dusky pawn]

Im not saying police has no authority overall im saying in this case they dont have authority

[visual mortar]

yes they do

they have full authority

[shell flax]

NDAs cannot protect against illegal stuff, if it’s against the law you can report it

[visual mortar]

exactly

[dusky pawn]

Nope they are not given the power to determine if the animals are handled properly or not only the vet administration and courts can

[visual mortar]

lmao what

if its illegal it is illegal

[shell flax]

Horseshit

[visual mortar]

they can determine anything

get osha and county inspectors involved

[dusky pawn]

Yes I can to one vet administrator and not even directly only through my university because otherwise I face the burden in any defamation lawsuit

[visual mortar]

federal and municipal staff

the government has full authority dude

[shell flax]

[visual mortar]

that slaughterhouse is on city/county property

[dusky pawn]

Osha is not a thing outside of america lmao

[visual mortar]

okay then where are you

[shell flax]

So you’re telling me some bumass university has more authority over the students then the government in your area

[visual mortar]

your country likely has a similar department/ministry

[dusky pawn]

Poland where this is handled specifically by government admin vets who have the authority in this

[visual mortar]

alright lets fact check your ignorance

[dusky pawn]

Who also follow a chain of command from municipal to state to central

[dusky pawn]

Lmao I had to pass exams regarding the administrative structure

Its hilarious you are questioning this when you dont even know a singular word in my language other than k***a

[visual mortar]

oh what do you know osha does exist outside the us and there is a polish council that oversees this

[dusky pawn]

Besides our university authorities have instructed us on this specifically anyway

[visual mortar]

https://osha.europa.eu/en/about-eu-osha/national-focal-points/poland
https://www.wetgiw.gov.pl/english/general

[visual mortar]

im sure they have

[dusky pawn]

This is GIW not OSHA lmao

[visual mortar]

look closer bud

[shell flax]

My college also told me not to report suspicious shit on campus to outside authorities, i gleefully ignored that

[dusky pawn]

Yes im looking and you sent me the vet GIW site and a european OSHA site
One of which I mentioned and the other has no direct authority

[visual mortar]

and how does it not

[dusky pawn]

Because our equivalent is called PIP and it is independent of it operationally

[visual mortar]

how is it independent

[dusky pawn]

It also would not even intervene in the case of animals because they handle WORK SAFETY not animal wellbeing or health

[dusky pawn]

Do you even know how europe functions ?

We dont have some federal board for everything that directly oversees every agency of every country its way looser than this

[visual mortar]

so everything is unregulated and everything is littered with corruption and no control

complete anarchy....

at this point this has gone so fucking far off the rails, you have a problem with your government organization not fucking NDAs lmao

this has nothing to do with NDAs at this point

[dusky pawn]

The governments of every individual country govern it and follow wide overarching rules set by the european parliament and board

The ultimate authority is not anything european it is our own government

Unless its some very very large concepts like regulations but still the actual overseer of the regulations being followed will be something governed by our own government

[dusky pawn]

But yes we have gone off the rails

[visual mortar]

damn thats crazy

so anyways

NDAs are essential and good

[shell flax]

I genuinely think chugging four bottles of Everclear would’ve been more productive then this

[dusky pawn]

Bad corporate pressure device

[visual mortar]

now we're back pedalling

how

[dusky pawn]

Just agreeing to disagree

[visual mortar]

its so funny because like a hundred times the argument "oh its bad for employees n stuff" qas brought up but not once was it elaborated on

total kirylow funeral

[scenic scaffold]

NDAs in this context prevent employees from reporting to anyone outside the regional vet
The regional vet is the only enforcement mechanism and is potentially complacent
PIP won't intervene, police have no specific jurisdiction, EU bodies have no direct enforcement
Public/media pressure is the last resort and the NDA specifically kills that
Therefore employees are left with zero practical recourse

[dusky pawn]

Yeah basically

[sleek hemlock]

So realistically when could we expect the engine update I mean surely a bunch of progress has been done that's probably why they haven't bothered with the announcements or roadmap it's to keep hope minimum

[dusky pawn]

Uhh with dlc

At this point i would not expect it sooner

[meager crag]

Don't get your hopes up tbh

Having a low expectation is usually the more realistic approach and also makes sure you don't get disappointed in the end

Hype has a habit of biting you in the bum

[dusky pawn]

I think any S2 owner knows this by now surely

[meager crag]

Seeing this chat sometimes, I really doubt it tbh

[visual mortar]

this is an insanely specific context so it doesn't really matter

[meager crag]

Honestly, it's not just good advice for HoC, it's good advice in general

[visual mortar]

crimson never played s2 btw

[meager crag]

REAL

n't

I played it and hated the controls

https://tenor.com/view/ehe-anime-gif-anime-girl-teehee-gif-27178660

[visual mortar]

the keybinds menu

[meager crag]

SUCK

It legit forces you to play with the original keybinds because custom keybinds don't work

[visual mortar]

if you say so i can

[visual mortar]

well that is just incorrect

[meager crag]

Alright

"so"

[visual mortar]

even on release

[visual mortar]

on it

[sleek hemlock]

I think if anything realistically we may get a announcement possibly not expecting on June 5th or 7th because the summer games fest and also or Xbox showcase

[meager crag]

For context, I tried rebinding the controls to that of the Trilogy

[visual mortar]

i did just fine

[meager crag]

I'm not sure what didn't work, but something didn't work

[visual mortar]

therefore the game sucks

[meager crag]

Bait used to be made with quality

[visual mortar]

insane logic

[visual mortar]

it is user error

[meager crag]

Eh, bit of both

[visual mortar]

jack has better logic than this and he has shit opinions

[meager crag]

If rebinding keys did work, then we wouldn't be talking about this

[meager crag]

50/50 tbf

[visual mortar]

if you did it correctly we would also not be talking about this

[meager crag]

Ah, so you admit the keybinds are bad

Because I did it correctly

[visual mortar]

what

[meager crag]

[visual mortar]

well you didn't

[meager crag]

Says you

[visual mortar]

because i did and it worked

[visual mortar]

yeah i did says

[meager crag]

Yeah, just in those 5 seconds

[visual mortar]

what

crimson when do you hit puberty

[vocal wave]

stalker 2 gamma mod when

[still current]

Never

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-food-eating-cat-eating-gif-1320502635529344444

[warm sorrel]

Hi guys, do you know why the guide "machine" on Monolith Island isn't working?

[shell flax]

Truthfully any ‘gamma’ mod likely won’t be made by Grok. I’ve got bets with a few buddies that a few of the modders here will hit that point before Grok even looks at S2 again.

[vocal wave]

he did make stalker gamma the best stalker you can play tough

[twilit osprey]

Any leaks about the UE 5.5.4 drop?

[vocal wave]

once you play that it feels weird going back to S2

[dreamy plover]

today im not here to offend anyone do you belive it?

[dreamy plover]

more leaks ab out gta 6 rn

[twilit osprey]

when is that supposed to drop? This year?

[twilit osprey]

Place a support ticket with GSC via their site man

[dreamy plover]

id say ask gsc why the game is barely working 2 years in my guy

[deft plume]

like they would answer

[twilit osprey]

You're right......I've been waiting for a year and 4 1/2 months on this game.....and it not where it should have been by January of this year

Announcing DLC without making the base game great is Bass Ackward

[dreamy plover]

more content more money

2+2=5 strategy

[twilit osprey]

That's obvious and it's to show that GSC are actually working on it too

[deft plume]

well, they were aware they sold us 1/2 of the game at release

[visual mortar]

I forbid Grok's filthy countenance from entering the domain of the Grand Stalker 2

[dreamy plover]

definitely doing free work for gsc right here (take it on the chin dont block me pls)

[twilit osprey]

They were.......I forgave them but expected a masterpiece after so many years

[vocal wave]

dude

[visual mortar]

I will do much more than block

like

idk

but it would be bad or something

[dreamy plover]

ok just dont change my name pls haha

[visual mortar]

I can sense doubt in your soul. You are in between the temptations of Gammnation and eternal salvation. Choose carefully...

[serene barn]

i really hate the fact that a company can do what they did and there's really nothing we could do about it.

[visual mortar]

what if your name became woogie

[visual mortar]

who did what

[deft plume]

same, war situation, game being released after many years, I kind of hoped for things to get better by a lot by now, but somehow they did not and lack of transparency and communication just made things worse

[serene barn]

take 110 usd from people and the game being so unstable and shit for a long time.

[visual mortar]

i hate that argument lmao

you willingly paid 110

for a $60 game

🥀

[serene barn]

i willing paid for a game that i expected to be stable because it's a damn product i was sold

hello lmao. how is that a bad argument

[dreamy plover]

stalker fans love each other jesus

[visual mortar]

the price you chose was your own fault, you can complain about the game but they didn't "take 110 usd" from you

[serene barn]

i paid top dollar only to get something loaded with issues and shit and i'm the one that had to wait to get my money's value of the game

[visual mortar]

you gave that to them

before you even knew the quality of the product

people will never learn to stop preordering 💔

[serene barn]

it will never be on me that something i am sold, is not working well. what are you even talking about

[visual mortar]

you bought it before you could even see it

waiting until release is always the smartest choice

[sage dew]

I pre-purchased - rarely ever do... Seen ultimate pack GSC arent just any large corpo devs .. they just arent OK? so I bought ultimate update - supporting favorite dev. and I am broke

[serene barn]

so? in what world is it unreasonable for me to expect that something i am sold, works?

[visual mortar]

i mean it works

its not completely broken

[dreamy plover]

people called me 'dont chasnge my name....' so i gues thats ok

[visual mortar]

its about as clunky as soc

imo

if it was completely unplayable I'd agree

but it is pretty playable

mechanism

[serene barn]

it's like how when Fallout 76 came out it was literally working so bad that a law in Autralia kicked in for people there that entitiled them to a refund because the game was so bad it was considered selling a faulty product. that should be a thing everywhere.

[bold smelt]

i think getting mad at a dev for underperforming when you preordered is a fools errand no matter who or what happened because they didnt lie to you about anything, you put all of your eggs into one basket and got disappointed

[civic whale]

how much longer do i have to play for x18 when i'm at the Answers Come At A Price mission?

[dreamy plover]

whats my name

[civic whale]

wookie321

[dreamy plover]

soz just checking

[serene barn]

i just don't get the idea that it's on the customer and not the seller that sold something they knew was faulty.

[shell flax]

Please do post anything where S2 got so bad The Government had to step in

[dreamy plover]

whats my nameeee,.,,,

[bold smelt]

its on the seller to do their research before buying a faulty product

[dreamy plover]

heisenberg

[shell flax]

S2 didn’t even get removed from a storefront like 2077 did

[serene barn]

not reasonable when the product can be as faulty as it was lol.

[visual mortar]

fallout 76 is an mmo and the online portion barely worked on release. so the game was completely unplayable.

[bold smelt]

if you give a company "trust" then of course you are going to get burned, they want money, not fanboys

[visual mortar]

stalker 2 still works and is fully playable until the wnd

so that doesn't really apply

[shell flax]

It is perfectly reasonable when Stalker as a series has always had bad launches

[vocal wave]

If the started by just throwing away all the code that makes this game feel like a console game and play more like a PC game as a start. And we take it from there... 🙄

[bold smelt]

if you did your research you would know the product is faulty, its like buying a broken down car and complaining that its on the seller you cant drive it

[serene barn]

like i just think there should be consequences for selling games you know for a fact just isn't ready.

[visual mortar]

⛽

[bold smelt]

there already are, its called not buying the game

[serene barn]

and how is that a consequence for GSC?

[shell flax]

They don’t get your money

What the fuck do you want? The Ukrainian government to sue GSC?

[visual mortar]

ehh that's a bad analogy because the vehicle was used by someone already

[bold smelt]

what? of COURSE a company not getting MONEY is going to be a huge consequence

[serene barn]

there is no consequence for GSC for selling something to people in the state they did.

[bold smelt]

regardless my point got across

[shell flax]

NAME A CONSEQUENCE THEN

[serene barn]

like it should simply just work well enough when it's a product that is sold.

[bold smelt]

is ruined PR and several financial setbacks not a consequence?

[visual mortar]

hey man quiet down

inside voice

[vapid galleon]

what dudes are yammering about

[serene barn]

it'll just never be reasonably put the fault on the buyer when the seller knows their product isn't what they advertised and is faulty lol.

[visual mortar]

conquerer classically adding nothing

[shell flax]

[bold smelt]

its on the buyer for buying faulty product and expecting it not to be faulty, that isnt a game thing, that happens in literally every industry with every product, you didnt do your research and got burned

[slender abyss]

God this hypercube artifact isn't spawning for me been trying to farm for this artifact for almost 3 hrs

[serene barn]

like in other things where a producer is selling shit they know is broken or faulty, there is consequences for doing that on purpose.

but the closest that we get is if we can refund it in less than 2 hours of playing it.

[vapid galleon]

a baseless comment came

[shell flax]

bro the consequences are ruined PR and no one buying it

[visual mortar]

x2

[bold smelt]

the ford pinto was a huge success and it literally blew up and killed people

[vapid galleon]

x10 for you i guess

[shell flax]

Also S2 despite what people cry about was a massive success financially

[serene barn]

if you go to a store to buy a drill, you expect that drill to work lol. that's literally the same thing here.

[bold smelt]

yeah but the game is permanently stained with a horrible reputation that will undoubtably push away new buyers in droves

[slender abyss]

Why does rng hate me so much

[shell flax]

2077 and Diablo 4 say otherwise

[vapid galleon]

becuase it's RNG

[civic whale]

can someone answer this please?

[vapid galleon]

basically gambling

[serene barn]

i buy a game that specifically isn't advertised as an early access thing. i expect that game to be working within some parameters.

[bold smelt]

if you looked up and google said the drill is faulty, its on you for buying it knowing it was faulty

[vapid galleon]

absolutely

[bold smelt]

to be honest idk how 2077 turned its reputation around so hard

[serene barn]

reminds me of how when Cyberpunk 2077 came out, it was so broken that it was straight up pulled from the Digital store.

[vapid galleon]

nice point, games can be change/more develop and become a very good

Cyberpunk is a classic example for it

[vapid galleon]

++

[serene barn]

they can change. other stories is No Mans Sky, or at least i heard that turned out great.

[shell flax]

You guys are so certain S2 is permanently stained but remember not everyone follows along with this shit. People are gonna see their friends playing S2 and ask how it is. Yes to the actual community S2 has a stain (Again, Stalker games are 4 for 4 with bad launches) but the average gamer isn’t gonna care if they enjoy the game or their buddy recommends it.

[vapid galleon]

early acces a very good thing as long as developers don't abuse it

[vapid galleon]

yeah No Man Sky is a another example

[bold smelt]

not everyone is neurotic and on discord 24/7 true, but it will still push away a fair amount of people

speaking of, im gonna stop being neurotic on discord and play my game instead of arguing online

[shell flax]

Hell imma be real, most Stalker fans probably aren’t even on the discord

[vapid galleon]

you're right, as a normal player, S2 is a very good game btw it was a good advanture. We're critizing it as a fan and bone community bro we're playing this trilogy and mods for years

that's why we're not happy

[bold smelt]

i didnt specify this discord

[shell flax]

Oh I agree, S2 launched in a rough way

[vapid galleon]

Stalker 2 will provide you 100+ hours good game time

and deserves its money

[serene barn]

yeah i've heard about some times where people did use it as a get outa jail card to try to avoid criticism

[shell flax]

I enjoy the game immensely but I don’t believe in stroking a game just because you enjoy it.

I get more annoyed at dumbasses who just lie about non existent stuff

[vapid galleon]

wait, what about early pre-production lmao

[vapid galleon]

both true, it's absurd to criticize the impossible, it's absurd to criticize the incompatible

[shell flax]

Like that Jaime dude who modded his game, lied about having mods and then complained about his game having issues caused by the mods

[serene barn]

ugh, lol.

[shell flax]

Suffer at the memory alongside me

[vapid galleon]

lol but don't gossip it just lack of culture

[vapid galleon]

don't say memory

[shell flax]

Gossip? The man did it in this discord repeatedly

[serene barn]

soo anyway, steam says i have 656 hours on Stalker 2

[civic whale]

ram?

[visual mortar]

watch out I saw a dromedary behind you

[serene barn]

wonder about actual play time.

[shell flax]

236 on Steam, 100 on PS5 and nearly 3k on Xbox

[vapid galleon]

okay continue to seeing

[visual mortar]

is this tuff

[vapid galleon]

Rostok, Ram, Stalker 2 = ???

[vapid galleon]

it must be like that for you, low mental

[serene barn]

you think Stalkers have tried to eat the animals in the zone

[visual mortar]

what

[civic whale]

hm.... only 9.4gb used rn and i'm ingame on epic settings lmao

[vapid galleon]

yeah GSC fixed it for a long time ago

[civic whale]

that's what i get for using like 3 gigabytes less on startup than windows does on startup

[vapid galleon]

clear sky and dogs...

[shell flax]

They literally eat Flesh

And Boar

[serene barn]

no i meant like, the non mutants, silly

[shell flax]

Oh definitely

[serene barn]

the snakes, lizards, frawgs.

[vapid galleon]

imagine you living in the Zone, these two would probably be your two favorite foods hehe

[serene barn]

squirrel

[shell flax]

Also reminder: there’s a decent wolf population in Chornobyl IRL

[serene barn]

isn't the Psuedodogs supposed to be mutated wolves?

[shell flax]

No