☢┃stalker-general

[tall hawk]

never said it was, they're a AA studio not some AAA megacorpo like EA or Ubisoft

[tame gazelle]

Maybe the DLC will add Faction Wars then he-_hehe_hehehe not.

[worldly ingot]

Over 20 hours I think on the steam page?

[bitter plover]

But like like almost half of company cant be considered as normal employee, bcs they canliteraly work only few hours a day

[tame gazelle]

yeah but that game probably works as intended

[tall hawk]

also consider that not everyone is even a developer, they still have writers, artists, VAs, project managers, HR, etc

[bitter plover]

yeah. 30-50 USD/Euro os normal price for DLC now or expansion rather

[worldly ingot]

nvm doesnt say on the steam page but I swear I saw 20+ hours

[bitter plover]

They said dozens of hours for main story. So 20+ hours is true

[worldly ingot]

That part is true but considering how many resources it takes and everything I don't expect it to be less than 30 euro

[worldly ingot]

Sadly yeah

which is also why I just bought ultimate edition instantly so I dont need to pay for the dlc and it will come out less overall

[bitter plover]

Its simple math. Upgrade from standard to ultimate is 60 euro, which has both DLCs included. There is no way, that one DLC will cost less than 30 Euro

[tame gazelle]

holy

[bitter plover]

If the DLC will have 20-30 hours of content (or more), 30 Euro would actualy be bellow the average price for the Hour/price ratio in recent DLCs prices

[tall hawk]

faction wars wasnt in stalker since clear sky

[worldly ingot]

Yup and I expect the 2 regions it does add to have side missions and such besides the main missions

[bitter plover]

there will be at least some kind of faction wars in game for sure

maybe just between Duty and Freedom, but it will be in

[worldly ingot]

I hope so, at least between freedom and duty, I almost said and their closest allies but factions don't really work that way anymore lol

Call of Pripyat: Degtyarev goes to Rookie Village, asks how anomalies work, game ends

[tame gazelle]

yeah ill believe it when i see it. no hotfix for half a year, weird cinematic/pre rendered trailers masking as gameplay from before

but heres hoping

[bitter plover]

thats fair

[worldly ingot]

I have hope that the engine update won't make it unplayable for us that barely run it on low settings lol

The best part on my PC is corsair 32GB Ram

[tame gazelle]

if anything foliage/vegetation should be alot more optimized in later UE builds'

[bitter plover]

like we are sure, that the reason for no actuall big fixes or improvements into the game are due to them already moving ppl onto updated UE branch, so it all now waits for the update to ge into live version. But, it doesnt mean, that its really true and that all will be good by then. So as i said, its very fair, to be sceptic, until its rly in game

[tame gazelle]

from everything ive seen and read

[bitter plover]

it should. But it still isnt where it should even on newest UE versions. I have zero expectations, that we will see nanite foliage in Stalker ever, so its still everything around good LOD works of GSC

[worldly ingot]

I just wish they focus the entire team on a project instead - like make everyone work on the engine first then go from there (patch 1.9, DLC), but they probably know better than me

[worldly ingot]

That's good to hear, I run the game on like 80-90? fps on low settings I just want to keep it that way

[bitter plover]

You have dev teams and every team does something different. You cant use artists for UE update, or any other devs, that are in no use for UE update. So they were on DLC from begining.

[fervent island]

Modders literally do better job than the devs.
That is literally any game with a proper modding community

[tame gazelle]

i do love the art direction in this game, so why not let the artist try their hand on programming - it cant get worse

[bitter plover]

They said, that they move teams in paralel and once the team is finished on one project and cant help it any further, they move them onto next project, to not have to kick them out (by projects, they mean DLC 1, DLC 2, MP project and new game in preproduction)

[worldly ingot]

Sure but I meant more like everyone that can work on UE works on UE firstly, not that it's spread onto the DLC that really can wait, I just feel like they want to bring in more content to keep the playerbase happy first

[worldly ingot]

Alright then 🙂

[bitter plover]

im sure, that most of coders and ppl like that worked mostly on UE update and some on DLCs specific mechanics

[fervent island]

Imagine that the next game be a digital card game

[worldly ingot]

As someone who loves those that's a win - but it wouldn't really work lol

[bitter plover]

WHo knows what it will be. They have planned two games for future. One New IP and one existing IP. Nothing more to be said. Both are for far future and only very few ppl are working on it RN (i guess just preproduction, in planning what those games even will be and etc. No actuall dev force)

[tame gazelle]

but Stalker 2 isnt out of early access even 🙁

ok that was my last for today 😄

[fervent island]

one new IP
U are talking about S.T.R.A.N.G.E.R?, i think that Sergey Grigorovich said that GSC don't has much to do there (apart of that he's GSC itself)

[bitter plover]

As i said, when you have ppl, that already finished their work on S2 and their DLCs and cant help it any way, you move them onto next project.

[final vigil]

Strelok's hideout!!

[river chasm]

No GSC has confirmed they've started on a new property. Presumably just very early pre production though

[bitter plover]

Stranger is not GSCs work. So no

[final vigil]

theres going to be another STAKLER?!

[bitter plover]

this

[fervent island]

GSC working in Kingdom Come Deliverance ukraini edition then

[final vigil]

Did GSC work on Cossaks? cause....

[tall hawk]

this would unironically be fire

let us paint eggs as a side activity

[worldly ingot]

It will be a papers please version where you play as sidorovich with a chicken eating minigame

[tame gazelle]

i wouldnt mind a Stalker 2 from Warhorse Studios - there was more A-life in that game than this game 10 times.

[tall hawk]

yeah that was their first game series

[final vigil]

lol

[worldly ingot]

this time the chicken will be rendered even better

[tall hawk]

do you think sidorovich would like dave's hot chicken?

[final vigil]

why...why does Strelok sound like Skif in his voice message.....

[fervent island]

one existing IP
Firestarter 2 would be real

[final vigil]

why do both their names start with a freaking S.....

[worldly ingot]

Most definitely, better question is where does he get chicken in the zone from

[tall hawk]

doordash

he doesnt tip tho

[worldly ingot]

Yup we knew that tho

[worldly ingot]

Ruins my immersion that he has same buy and sell prices as every other vendor in stalker 2

[bitter plover]

their system wouldnt fit Stalker tho. Alife is more than just simulation of NPC going to work, sleep, eat and repeat

[worldly ingot]

selling to him at normal prices just felt odd

[bitter plover]

I would even say, that its easier to do NPC simulation system as in TES games and KCD, than actuall good Alife

[tame gazelle]

I would really like to know what A-life 2.0 is as advertised on release. After 400h in game i've yet to notice 2.0

[tall hawk]

plot of first game from wikipedia:

By the year 2010, video games have gotten so advanced that people are able to upload their consciousnesses into virtual reality machines to experience more realistic and lifelike simulations than ever before

I think they might have to change some dates in the story 😭

anyways the game itself sounds cool

[bitter plover]

Bcs in alife, you have to merge also some fights and other behaviour on the map. Basicaly merging NPC simulation of TES and KCD with simulation of NPCs on map of Mount and Blade

[fervent island]

By the year 2040, video games have gotten so advanced that people are able to upload their consciousnesses into virtual reality machines to experience more realistic and lifelike simulations than ever before
Fixed

[bitter plover]

yeah, that was just bad. I hope we will see it in future tho.

[worldly ingot]

Damn I love M&B

[bitter plover]

MaB is love

[worldly ingot]

Warband was so good to f around with

[bitter plover]

Warband especialy

Shame that they did Bannerlord so dirty

[worldly ingot]

Tried it on release felt unpolished and never got back around to it :/ when I get bored maybe if they fixed it

[bitter plover]

Its not fixed

its just..unpolished. its working, but its just not as their previous games

[worldly ingot]

🙁 Damn, by try I still completed it by conquering everyone with my own faction, it was cool that you could import your own banners too tbh

[bitter plover]

Bannerkings mod adds tons of stuff that makes the game what i wanted. But its shame, that you have to rely on mods

[worldly ingot]

Yeah for that game specifically it just felt too odd, warband was clean

[bitter plover]

Warband was much simpler and yet it feels much more complex

[slow crypt]

How can someone play the same single-player game for 400 hours?

[bitter plover]

I have to have almost 2000h on Mount and Blade it just happens when the game is replayable

[shell flax]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[worldly ingot]

Yup it just does what it sets out to do REALLY well

[shell flax]

[worldly ingot]

Well sandbox games are much different than wolfenstein for example

[shell flax]

This isn’t counting PS5 or PC

[worldly ingot]

There is an infinite number of ways the game can go - and in almost all of them Swadia gets conquered first

[bitter plover]

the issue was management. I was part of early testers and was a lot active on forums and there were some active devs, that pushed the game to much better state and wanted to add very good mechanics, but management didnt want it. It now feels like, that litelary just like 5 devs actually worked on mechanics and gameplay and thats why it is unpolished

[slow crypt]

Yeah, but games like Stalker 2?

[bitter plover]

noice

[bitter plover]

why not. I had 200 hours in first week just by trying all story choices. Then add few more plays after that and you are asily at 400 hours

[worldly ingot]

Ye I meant that for Warband mostly - Bannerlord is like a half finished project and it sucks, even though I still enjoyed it somewhat :/

[shell flax]

‘But games like stalker 2?’
An open world single player game? Easily

[worldly ingot]

There is legit so many things to do in Bannerlord but it all feels barebones

[bitter plover]

yeah

[slow crypt]

Well, the content isn't exactly what you'd call varied

[worldly ingot]

Being open world and not SoC helps it a lot

[shell flax]

ok, and?

[worldly ingot]

It's still fun, there is some A life, how do people on GAMMA have thousands of hours too

[shell flax]

Mods, challenge runs and more

[bitter plover]

Exactly. asking this in game, where i had literaly 130h just in frist playtrough just bcs of exploring of map is interesting. And i wasnt larping or something.

[worldly ingot]

To explore everything and get every achievement you'd need like over 250+ hours at least

[tall hawk]

realistically the only reason they do on GAMMA is because tarkov costs money

[shell flax]

Hell there’s one dude here doing a deathless run for S2 and he’s nearly done

[worldly ingot]

Honestly EFP>GAMMA, Warfare+story is peak

[bitter plover]

Tarkov is horendous

[slow crypt]

Gamma has nothing to do with Tarkov get that out of your heads

[worldly ingot]

He's on SCAR - 1200 hours in the game

[shell flax]

Not really, gamma really only uses guns and animations from Tarkov

[tall hawk]

it literally is tarkov gameplay loop

[worldly ingot]

It has nothing to do with STALKER either tbh

[bitter plover]

it isnt. Its just hardcore survival. Nothing else like in Tarkov

[shell flax]

Ok where’s the extraction

[slow crypt]

Comparing a sandbox to an extraction shooter is like... not having any lights

[tall hawk]

I mean the general shooting and inventory management

[visual mortar]

have you actually played tarkov, or ANY extraction game

[worldly ingot]

Bro's why isn't STALKER 2 like real STALKER... you know GAMMA and such

[slow crypt]

Like hundreds of different shooters? Wow!

[shell flax]

Look I only played Tarkov cause a buddy gifted it to me, GAMMA plays closer to DayZ then Tarkov lmao

[tall hawk]

nah it has that annoying "HECKIN HYPER REALISM AND TACTICOOL DOOD" stuff that really only Tarkov does

[violet bloom]

i need a lil help rq chat

[slow crypt]

these opinions always come from people who haven't even played Tarkov

[violet bloom]

wait no nvm

[shell flax]

Blow up Dalin with an RPG

Next question

[worldly ingot]

I know a guy who beat GTA San Andreas over 40 times but that guy isn't right in the head so

[visual mortar]

I condemn thee in the name of the Sorrowful One, Drewski, into GAMMNATION

[tall hawk]

I have. What I meant by "gameplay loop" wasn't literally the extraction, more the moment to moment gameplay of the shooting, health system, inventory management, "tacticool" weapons modding stuff

[visual mortar]

that isn't gameplay loop then

[worldly ingot]

You go spark first mission into showing pda so you get the combatant

[violet bloom]

wasnt even that but ok

[visual mortar]

duck.

[shell flax]

The GAMMA health system is ten times more annoying then Tarkov

[worldly ingot]

It was the one I mentioned I know

[tall hawk]

"I condemn thee in the name of Moloch, Baal, and Satan" ahh statement 😭

[slow crypt]

it doesn't even feel the same to shoot what are you yaping

[visual mortar]

yeah that's the fucking joke smartass

💔

[worldly ingot]

The GAMMA repair system is 50 times more annoying than anything you have ever experienced in video games too

[violet bloom]

huh?

[tame gazelle]

this one dude is hurrdurr

[worldly ingot]

You go richter and not zotov then you show the pda and you get the combatant ak for free 100% durability next question

[visual mortar]

i. freaking. hate. gamma

[tall hawk]

I KNOW you aren't talking bro 😭

[violet bloom]

so im in the monolithian hospital, should i just send it? i have the liberty exoskeleton

[slow crypt]

seeking for advice chat is a nicer option

[violet bloom]

i did this in my first playthrough

[tall hawk]

if you are where I think you are then yeah

[violet bloom]

sorry but it takes a while to get any response

[tall hawk]

I just ran out my first playthrough and still got the bonus cash from Doc

[slow crypt]

a make sense

[worldly ingot]

Why don't you like not being able to buy a single weapon from the legit HQ of factions like the MILITARY, and then having to find 50 different parts for a gun?

[violet bloom]

aight thanks

[shell flax]

The gun and merchant systems annoy me

[small quest]

You can just tab these off or on?

[shell flax]

The 4 Gauge KSG is something KelTec definitely would do though

[worldly ingot]

Bro why would you be able to buy weapons from the MILITARY faction in their zone headquarters, doesn't it all come together for you?

[tall hawk]

why does it need to be up to the user to make their gameplay experience not suck? Isn't that the modpack developer's job?

[small quest]

Tbh some of the systems in stalker 2 could do with some depth.

The health and economy is crap.

[visual mortar]

i LOVE killing a guy and going "woah his gun is really cool i want it" only to find out its fucking broken and not functioning in the slightest and there's only 3 and a half bullets for it. but he somehow was able to nearly kill me for four minutes

[tame gazelle]

i cant hahahahahah

[tall hawk]

they both work the exact same as the OT iirc, at least health does

[tame gazelle]

please continue

[bitter plover]

this is where GZW shines. It has best system imo. And same with healing items. Its simple, easy, yet hardcorish and immersive. No item bloat

[worldly ingot]

Bro that's such a cooool system

[small quest]

It’s an single player open ended sandbox, you do you

[tame gazelle]

mr gammaknight

[slow crypt]

This place is filling up with gamma junk

[tame gazelle]

Gamma:Tarkov 1:1

[small quest]

A game that is 20years old. Maybe some evolution would be nice?

[tall hawk]

what really needs a revamp is the attachment system, it doesn't have to be gammaslop where I can put eight million gunsights on a single rifle but I'd prefer if I had a choice of what holos/reddots I could put on my guns

[main jewel]

lets ban everyone

[tall hawk]

Dr Gammaknight, I worked hard for my PhD

[worldly ingot]

It's called a modular modpack, the default settings are what the mod maker wanted, still don't like GAMMA tho

[tame gazelle]

then you should be able to understand the concept of options.

[fervent island]

Because some people is more creative at the hour at what to do in the game (?, for the "conventional people" HoC isn't for more of mmm, 200 hours max???

[small quest]

See half of the fans of stalker seem to just be gun porn nerds. I can’t be arsed with another AK variant or a better/more niche scope.

Maybe some bug fixes would be sick though.

[slow crypt]

Stalker 2 is so interesting that people are talking about Gamma

[bitter plover]

Grok is truly a person

[tall hawk]

fans of "stalker" that havent even touched the OT

[worldly ingot]

Someone called GAMMA Tarkov and it all spiraled

[tall hawk]

ngl gamma/anomaly fans aren't real stalker fans, if you don't play the OT or 2.

[worldly ingot]

of all time

[tall hawk]

I said nothing but the truth, I regret nothing

[tame gazelle]

wooow i would never guess u would be a gatekeeper

[worldly ingot]

Well GAMMA isn't STALKER so you are correct

[tall hawk]

Thank you!

[slow crypt]

Are you getting the hang of following the bait

[shell flax]

If I see someone championing the idea of an in depth healing system in S2 I’m putting red loctite on their car’s gas cap

[bitter plover]

gamma deez nuts

[worldly ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nb3q1oROOg

[worldly lion]

the good kind?

[smoky hawk]

he's cerberus himself

[small quest]

Pretty sure anyone enduring this game even if stalker 2 was their entry point. Is a true stalker fan.

They get it.

[tall hawk]

How am I supposed to have fun? There isn't a separate health bar for every individual appendage!!

[smoky hawk]

the actual dread and despair kind

and confusion

[worldly lion]

i see, woulod you recommend it then?

[worldly ingot]

They should really implement GAMMA's repair system into STALKER 2 to make it feel more like STALKER

[bitter plover]

[smoky hawk]

yes, it will haunt your entire life as you play, take some time off of it, remember it exists and try again, ad nauseam

[worldly lion]

i believe they should make the zone less colorful

[shell flax]

Banished to the realm of stupid STALKER drama for two days

[fervent island]

ew

[worldly lion]

are there chimeras in the game

[tame gazelle]

i love both, but i can truly understand why GAMMA has more concurrent players at probably all times except on release or when the DLC drops.

[tall hawk]

They should also remove all the color and make the game borderline grayscale, the game as is might as well just be Fortnite with how colorful it is

[smoky hawk]

yes late game

[slow crypt]

You can use the NVIDIA Control Panel or the AMD Control Panel for that.

[worldly lion]

ah i see, thanks

[tall hawk]

because of little kids who want Tarkov but their mom said no

[tame gazelle]

do you really think kids play Stalker? no

[shell flax]

I’m still of the opinion if you obsess over player count for a single player game, live service has microwaved your brain

[slow crypt]

Considering that you're comparing them, you must be one of those, right?

[worldly ingot]

Marked one what the hell

[smoky hawk]

yes

[shell flax]

is this an actual question

[tall hawk]

DOOOOD THE GAYME IS HECKIN DEAD THEY LOST THEIR PLAYERS AFTER THEY ALL BEAT THE MAIN STORY DOOOOOOD

[maiden prairie]

i mean i was 13 or 14 when i first played stalker

[worldly ingot]

They wouldn't be able to set up GAMMA

[tall hawk]

not real stalker

[tame gazelle]

yes ofc, back in the days

[maiden prairie]

it was last year

[tame gazelle]

but i would say there are less kids nowadays that tries stalker than 20 years ago

[smoky hawk]

its literally a step by step guide
if they can't, they are mentally deficient

[worldly ingot]

I was 9 when I started playing CoP 🙂

[bitter plover]

damm, what a plot twist

[smoky hawk]

a kid can follow a numbered list

[slow crypt]

I know someone who let an 11 yearold play Lab X16

[maiden prairie]

i think my first encouter with x-18 was much worse than with x-16

almost shat myself

[slow crypt]

I don't think that matters much at age 11

[worldly ingot]

I had trouble getting Skyrim mods to work when I was 10 lol

[tall hawk]

going to X-18 for the first time is like playing through HL2 for the first time and getting to Ravenholm

[shell flax]

Skyrim mods also break like glass if you scratch your ass at the wrong angle

[smoky hawk]

well yhea but you are here so , the later rule is proven

[maiden prairie]

god i have to finally finnish hl2, it's like i'm lacking huge part of single player gaming

[slow crypt]

Well, time to play Risk of Rain keep up with that Tarkov = Gamma thing

[maiden prairie]

but i got through ravenholm

[tame gazelle]

risk of rain 2 is the same as megabonk

[worldly ingot]

Yup I'm retarded for sure, I don't think you people know how dumb 10 year olds are but alr

[tame gazelle]

would someone here probably say

[jolly canyon]

Where’s that 1.9 at

[smoky hawk]

I was playing Deus Ex when I was 10 in a diff lang than my own and I made it about half way thru thru trial and error alone

and reading a list isnt even like trial and error

you have google man

[tame gazelle]

AI man > Google man

[worldly ingot]

? I don't know what I am supposed to do with that information, I am just saying most 10 year olds are stupid especially with technology, I know from helping my sister's kid, and that guy is not very stupid lol

[shell flax]

I mean at ten years old I jumped out of a moving van on my way to baseball practice

[tame gazelle]

feelsniceman

[marble gyro]

Yes

[smoky hawk]

that explains a lot
did you also hit your head in the fall?

[maiden prairie]

is 1.9 in the room with us?

[worldly ingot]

I just don't know how far I would get since most tech shit that I learned as a kid my cousin helped with so

[jolly canyon]

Claude, mod my copy of Stalker 2 to make the gameplay basically the same as Stalker GAMMA

[tame gazelle]

sorry for spamming, but i just got knocked down by a bloodsucker so just typing here untill the animation is over

[smoky hawk]

make lemon shortcake

its a more productive use of time

[worldly ingot]

SoonTM (next week)

[marble gyro]

Nah nah, hear me out

[maiden prairie]

does the mass bloodsucker spawn already fixed?

[marble gyro]

Double chocolate cookie brownies

[jolly canyon]

My cat ate the 1.9, I’m waiting for him to throw it up

[worldly ingot]

Honey faust clones killed me during his stagger animation at the 1st duga assault again, time to travel all the way from Zalissya

[bitter plover]

should be in 1.9

[maiden prairie]

pat his stomach

[maiden prairie]

good

[smoky hawk]

I know your fat tsk tsk

[jolly canyon]

He gonna bite me if I touch belly

[maiden prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[smoky hawk]

you gotta go to the gym witb me

[worldly ingot]

They were really on something with Master difficulty and how split up it's saves are

[smoky hawk]

yhea, they had their hands on a mound of shit

[marble gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-heavy-breathing-intensifies-fat-cat-gif-11159759

[maiden prairie]

i can go

[tall hawk]

what if instead of arguing about tarkov: gamma we just went to the gym and worked out?

[smoky hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/let's-go-lets-goo-woo-woohoo-slaphands-gif-2455885103646184999

[tame gazelle]

master mode is very nice when u get beamed head eyes between two telephone poles that has a a gap of a total of 2mm

[maiden prairie]

just finished my fbw as it meant to be easy on fridays, now i have fbpain

[jolly canyon]

I escaped from tarkov, what now?

[marble gyro]

Poles are made of wood, bullets go through wood

[maiden prairie]

enter the zone

[worldly ingot]

Time to travel 1km back to that point now I save scummed a lot on master

[maiden prairie]

i'm not made of wood bro

[tall hawk]

would it really be STALKER if Master difficulty was playable without save scumming?

[tall hawk]

An IQ too high?

[worldly ingot]

thats why we love stalker

[tame gazelle]

ah yes the problem was the material... not that the npcs clearly can see you and aggro onto you through a gap that no one should be able to notice.

[worldly ingot]

whip best weapon in stalker 2 and you can't convince me otherwise

[maiden prairie]

only if it stands for incountable quantities

[jolly canyon]

Simply never miss any shots

[marble gyro]

They only aggro if you make a noise in their general direction

[worldly ingot]

Also Operator exo>Diamond exo is the connoisseur's choice

[tame gazelle]

Yessir, that is also my experience after 400h surely

[marble gyro]

Not an aim bot, it most has to do with location and sound

[tall hawk]

hear guy hiding behind wooden telephone pole
shoot telephone pole with rifle round, wood is rotted so it flies right through

[maiden prairie]

Diamond exo got the best looks

[marble gyro]

Because master intensifies their cone of vision and hearing

[worldly ingot]

Yeah it's pretty good when I swap to 3rd person but no joke the monolith armors always looked the cleanest

[marble gyro]

Since the game also has a sound detection mechanic

[worldly ingot]

Operator's 20% accuracy buff is GOATed

[tame gazelle]

it has yes but does it work

[maiden prairie]

man irl i got no 3rd person too so i wear hobo clothes anyways

[worldly ingot]

Yup

[tall hawk]

considering you're coping and seething over enemies "seeing" you through cover I think it does

[marble gyro]

Even when crouched, on master you don't realize that blue bar above your head still exists amd Everytime you collide with a solid object that bar Maxes out to where every npc can hear you In a 30m radius

[worldly ingot]

But irl you can actually see what you wear, in stalker it's basically just the hands

[tame gazelle]

ah yes i am FURIOUS here im sitting! arrrrghhh! so mad

[maiden prairie]

use your imagination, i wouldn't expect any unbroken mirrors in "post apocalyptic" world

[tall hawk]

I think GSC should actually give all enemies xray vision as well as letting their bullets penetrate all cover

[worldly ingot]

also hornhead horns are the most worthwhile business in the zone

[marble gyro]

I mean they currently do

[worldly ingot]

that's an interesting design

[tame gazelle]

oh me oh my

[jolly canyon]

Simply throw a few of the 3000000 grenades the game hands you

[marble gyro]

Even a pmm can penetrate the strongest of metal

[tall hawk]

nadespam always wins lol

[marble gyro]

Like atm it's busted

[maiden prairie]

why only a few? ALL OF THEM

[tame gazelle]

what? what is not working? hmm

[worldly ingot]

Nah those get sold and we equip underbarrels and never use them too 👌

[marble gyro]

Piercing values

[tame gazelle]

huuuuuuuuuuuuuh that is weird?

[marble gyro]

Way to high, if the game had bows and arrows, the arrow would pierce through metal as well

[tame gazelle]

wasnt that by design

[marble gyro]

Nope

[tame gazelle]

[worldly ingot]

and bison with ap 2 shotting exos in earlier versions

[marble gyro]

Skifs pistol used to kill exos too in earlier builds

[worldly ingot]

ye now rhino took it's place

[marble gyro]

Which it should

Gun is a handcannon

But ass against mutants

[worldly ingot]

i am not saying it shouldn't, and i understand it's about progression but AK needing more to kill than a PP bison late game sets me off

[marble gyro]

Majority of the late game guns feel like mid game

Hell even the gauss rifle hardly one shots

Rpgs have a RNG damage value

Damage in general is all over the place

[visual mortar]

a bullet zips by and penetrates your skull

HOLLY SHITNSNIPER GET DOWN

[worldly ingot]

Which is still fine imo, when you are in pripyat you should feel like you will be hunted since it's the biggest concentration of monolithians

[worldly ingot]

Ye I noticed that when I oneshot faust with it, repeated the fight for the other achievement and same kind of shot didn't even do damage

[marble gyro]

Yeah, but I should also feel like "I CAN KILL THEM WITH THE WEAPONS I HAVE"

[worldly ingot]

Which is also why I think Whip is the best weapon in the game for human fights, 1 shot to the skull, 21 round mag

semi auto

[marble gyro]

I dunno man, in comparison to older games, guns worked sorta like guns, and these guns work like bb guns

[worldly ingot]

Yeah to the body I agree

[marble gyro]

Damage just needs to be readjusted big time

Oh and there are also times when damage is not even calculated

You shoot someone in the head, blood splatters and yet you bring a console command to see what damage value you did and it shows 0

It's like the game runs on a live server, and it lags

[worldly ingot]

Huh that's interesting, reminds me of something that someone theorized in SoC that kinda makes sense: when you stagger an enemy after shooting them in the head they get invincibility frames while stunned, and it does feel that way

[marble gyro]

Your ping reaches 1000 and you do absolutely no damage

[worldly ingot]

didn't have many such issues myself tbh

the gunplay has been a big + for me in this game, it's basically what I want after coming off from Fallout and being OP after the first 20 levels and having to limit myself

[marble gyro]

Gunplay is good for show

But not so good in performance

[worldly ingot]

Fair I guess

[stuck adder]

Any hints on how to beat ||Faust|| on Master difficulty? 🙏

[marble gyro]

Shoot his lamps

Pull rpg out

Pray

[stuck adder]

Will grenades help? I gathered like 15 lmao

[main jewel]

eh not as much as an rpg

[worldly ingot]

Mostly hide behind cover, shoot his clones if they are getting closer than he is, spray his lamp down, it's a medkit check fight

[worldly ingot]

Also I oneshot him with the RPG on master difficulty

[stuck adder]

I plan on to use shotgun to destroy three lamps for the first phase and then to camp at one place and just pray

Also I have 40 medkits in total so 🙏

[worldly ingot]

for the first phase you can legit just run around shooting all 3 out, I didn't have any problems with that

[stuck adder]

Also I think it is randomized where the clones spawn?

[bronze holly]

What are you talking about I just wobble through the zone using my blue shield thing when I want to and throw stuff through walls. I only use guns when I make them fly and shoot them while their empty

[marble gyro]

Big ass drops of rain outside rn

[worldly ingot]

They probably have some fixed spawn places just like they had on the first duga assault (3 on the building, 2 on the side gate that you can't enter, and idk how many from the front

[worldly ingot]

[marble gyro]

Time to eat a big ass brownie and drink some milk

[ember cradle]

I wish that before the ending they auto saved at the no return so you can continue exploring

[visual mortar]

is this canonical

[stuck adder]

I mostly died in the first place cause of the enemy placement

[marble gyro]

Double chocolate brownie Cookie and a glass of milk, everyday as long as there is some left

[ember cradle]

Time to explore, bandits tremble at my mere presence

[stuck adder]

I DID IT!

I only beat ||Faust|| cause he somehow managed to get to my place and I managed to pull out my shotgun and blast off his lamp

[worldly ingot]

Still counts though 🙂 a lot of people struggle with that fight so wp!

[worldly ingot]

Must be a sight seeing a gauss gun exo as a zalissya bandit

[brittle charm]

You can’t kill God. Just like you cannot get rid of the sky above. || IYKYK ||

[stuck adder]

I only had Riemann and Monolitian M860

And to be completely honest; ||Faust|| boss fight sucks lmao

[still current]

[fiery ibex]

Wow 💔 wtf so I basically failed to rescue my kind, the stalkers

[marble gyro]

Yo siiiic!!!

DayZ got a next gen update

[stuck adder]

Also I ain't using an SMG lmao
It breaks too fast

[twilit osprey]

does anyone know when the 1.9 patch is supposed to drop now? Thanks

[native idol]

I believe they are hoping for sometime next week

[twilit osprey]

Thank you 🙂

[stuck adder]

What can we expect from the patch 1.9?

[native idol]

I believe a new mission with a new location, bug fixes and some new loading screens

[stuck adder]

Can we get a nerf on bloodsuckers? 🙏

[native idol]

Why would we get a nerf on bloodsuckers? They are meant to be a threat in the zone. I just don't see that happening at all IMO.

[bitter plover]

Fix to bloodsucker spawns are in

or should be

[stuck adder]

Because mostly they just jump at you, stunning you, and shortly after, they decide to slap you to death

[native idol]

Thats just what they do

[native idol]

Do we know if the poltergeist through wall bug is getting fixed in 1.9? I don't know if it has been said one way or not.

[stuck adder]

To be honest, I did not have that terrible of luck with them, one or two good headshots with a shotgun is good enough

[bitter plover]

wasnt said

[native idol]

Well I sure hope it comes sooner rather than later.

[still current]

[frigid hill]

lordlandon_aizen has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[worldly ingot]

Yup :/

[vapid galleon]

get wolf'd

[worldly ingot]

Damn doing it with the 860 is crazy, it's so bad if it isn't the extended mag one 😅

[stuck adder]

But it worked lmao

[worldly ingot]

you can get one which has a 10 mag size and reloads in one go like a saiga, get it if you can

[worldly ingot]

Bloodsuckers in previous games no matter how creepy did nothing besides in CoP where they stunned you but you were immune during it anyways

[stuck adder]

Yeah, bloodsuckers in SoC and CS were meh, in CoP, they did something and in HoC, they are an absolute pain

[worldly ingot]

Shah's mate is a good one but you're already way ahead story wise

[worldly ingot]

It's better this way imo where they are a threat

[stuck adder]

On the one hand, yeah, on the other hand, as I play it on Master, if you encounter one on the open field and can't get a high ground...just pray

[worldly ingot]

Ye they're trickier, in like STALKER GAMMA you legit had specific ways to fully dodge every mutant, if you memorized it they were trivial

[worldly ingot]

In my opinion if any mutant needs smth actually snorks need a fix because they hit you even if you're 10m away from them with the leap attack

And they spawn in packs of 6-8 early game even sometimes

[stuck adder]

Can confirm, they can even one shot you on Master even with like, pretty good suit

Hope they will at least add an achievement for beating it on Master difficulty, which on the other hand, wouldn't make sense for the older titles, since they had the same achievement for beating the game on Veteran/Master

[carmine star]

That would mean one of GSC actually ahs to beat it on master

[worldly ingot]

Well I'd still like if they did but ONLY if they actually fix the save rates that master has on main missions, they're long af and basically never save

Like save mid mission sometimes at least, it should be a challenge but still

[tame gazelle]

fighting burers on master mode when they wallhack is my new favourite pastime. cant fathom this has been in the game for months, how unfun

[arctic flower]

is there a mini map mod? something like the old stalker games?

[ember cradle]

Yeah I kinda messed that up to

[iron wind]

!roadmap

[fiery ibex]

Wait….my stalkers….they work for the c-conscious which the seven scientists are dead and the only THING THAT I SAW AT MALACHITE ARE WAS A PSI HALLUCINATION, JUST LIKE THE MONOLITH AND FAUSTS CLONES, AND THE STALKERS ARE ACTUALLY A PROGRAM MADE BY C-CONSCIOUS? SO ALL MY COMRADES AND ME WORK FOR THE VERY THING THAT I WANTED TO DESTROY????? 😭

Who do I even trust at this point

I FOUND A GUITAR THAT I CAN KEEP

[robust pendant]

Only the mods for the old stalker games. S2 doesnt have great modding capabilities compared to them

[fiery ibex]

The engineer guy with the truck in his shop? And I don’t see any weapons

Ohhh the partner gun 💀 isn’t that just a slightly upgraded emr

[worldly ingot]

Yeah but it's unique and I hoard those lol, it's not even good (just like the EMR)

[gentle nova]

Who up stalkin rn

[main jewel]

yes

[frigid hill]

verdun1862 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[forest tapir]

I heavily dislike this gun

[ocean zephyr]

tbf is just got official modding support a little while ago

[robust pendant]

I am 100% convinced it won't get at all the level of customizability of the old engine, or forks of it

Of course Unreal Engine can be modified, but idk how much can you allow if you don't have certain stuff

[ocean zephyr]

Yea but you're comparing a 20 year old game to a two year old one with like 6 months worht of modding capacity tbf

[robust pendant]

and of course, most of the decent mods came after years. Imagine how longer they should take on unreal, especially on how inaccessible it is

[ocean zephyr]

It is an entire game engine, very heavily I should think.

[robust pendant]

afaik, it's pretty restricted now

[ocean zephyr]

Yes but the zone kit is still being updated, as is the game. So some mods may not ever be made as the game already has them.

[worldly ingot]

im stalking my shit rn

[robust pendant]

thats why I said that I don't believe it will be as customizable. The game needs updates and the kit is still getting updated. The old xray kits just have them all already

[worldly ingot]

Not to mention the dev tools haven't been fully released yet

[robust pendant]

so instead of making everything free, they are limiting it

[worldly ingot]

release the files

[robust pendant]

but if this one day happens and the dev kit is, somehow (I doubt), fully open to customizability, that would take years, based on how they are doing it

[gentle nova]

Tuff asl stalker

[robust pendant]

cause if they did want full customizability, they would've released some unreal engine sdk or smth with full support or everything, but they didn't

[worldly ingot]

Stay calm lads give it 20 years and we will get a STALKER 2: Heart of GAMMA

[brittle steppe]

I saw this and dropped all my files on the ground. Thanks man

[marble gyro]

I have finished starfield

50hrs, not bad, now im going to do my first unity run, and HOPEFULLY not kill my companions

Honestly I love the multiverse theory, so this game is definitely good for me

[maiden wing]

New player, standard ps5, hands down one of the best games i have played in years (the small issues are nothing when considering how awesome everything else is)

[rotund coral]

hi

[visual mortar]

hello users

[worldly ingot]

Glad to hear it, I felt the same way on my first playthrough 🙂

[snow basalt]

Does anyone have any sources for a 40mm GOST gas mask filter to put on my gp5? I need to find one. It doesnt even have to be a real filter. It can be a 3d printed dummy

[distant palm]

Anybody else playing stalker 2 on PC and utilizing RTX 3050? If so, how is the game performing for you?

[snow basalt]

I have a 3090, idk if theyre much different

[distant palm]

Same, have never really researched the difference. But I’m on a military establishment for the next 5 months. Got my gaming laptop I bought for processing drone survey data back in 2023. It’s got a 3050 so was wondering how the game operated on it

[snow basalt]

My game runs well on high graphics with my 4 year old 3090, it lags a bit with epic graphics

[robust pendant]

bro it's incredibly different, it's unreal 😭

[robust pendant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYIB4YpUutQ

[snow basalt]

Ok

[robust pendant]

you can probably get stable 30 fps if you limit it, although I think this is before the patch that increased the performance

[snow basalt]

How do I even see my fps

[distant palm]

So I’m fooked with this 3050?

[robust pendant]

alt + z, statistics

[snow basalt]

Thanks ill check tommorow

I probably get abt 60

[robust pendant]

I mean, not really? playing at 30 is not that bad

[snow basalt]

I can run war thunder on movie graphics at 160-200 fps

[distant palm]

What if I downloaded that free modded game? Gama/anomaly?

[robust pendant]

you'll get 60 for sure if you make some adjustments (to gamma, anomaly should be ez 60), yeah

[snow basalt]

Ok bye everyone

[robust pendant]

although those are more sandbox/survival mods more than anything

they don't have much apart from the novelty, but it's fun for some hours

[distant palm]

True but just like the adventure. I’ve been playing stalker 2 on Xbox with the freeplay mod. I brought my Xbox but did not bring my extra tv because I was told there was one in my room… to which there is not. Now, I could go grab a capture card from best buy or something

[robust pendant]

yeah, ig if you like the adventrue, you'll be fine

you also have stuff like CotZ btw, or IWP, or Dead Air

freeplay like Anomaly, but has some interesting stuff that make them unique

[distant palm]

Well I’ve played the main story and gotten all endings… so this just lets me be a stalker

[robust pendant]

have you played the original three games?

[distant palm]

🤔 I’ll check those out on YouTube

[distant palm]

Negative. Stalker 2 was the first one to come to console I believe. Had watched several videos on the originals but never thought buying a PC to play a game was reasonable. I bought this PC because the military Gtechs the military gives us just do not have any processing power whatsoever. And survey drones collect terabytes of data. What would take weeks to process with military grade computers only takes a few hours with this laptop

[robust pendant]

fast as shit
well, if you want, you can try them out, they are pretty good

or you can try other mods that are more story focused, like spatial anomaly, dreamcatcher, return to the zone, etc, theres plenty

[gaunt jungle]

#fortheward

[distant palm]

Never gamed on PC. Do I need steam or whatever to play em?

[gaunt jungle]

Yeah

[robust pendant]

you do need steam, yeah. or gog if you like

[gaunt jungle]

I think it's also on epic

[robust pendant]

better use a good platform instead

[gaunt jungle]

I only have epic for one game

Dead Island 2

New Poppy Playtime lore drop

Yarnaby is part of the Ward

#fortheward

[distant palm]

Wish I had more time for gaming but family and military and civilian take up most of it. So I just stick with stalker and have my little adventures here and there.

[main jewel]

sonion ring

the ward is buns

[dry siren]

mmmm

i walked into an alcohol anomaly

it made me piss myself and pass out and puke in my exoskeleton

[main jewel]

erm

what the flarp

[distant palm]

Ward is boss! Gotta love a government funded military that takes whatever they want 😂

[dry siren]

beer :)

[main jewel]

lowkey

that seems to happen alot

lets talk about onion rings instead

[distant palm]

Oh yeah I forgot

Ok, fixed the problem

[main jewel]

me rough

rough like roux like rouu

i made it sound like too

cause im silly

[vital storm]

is there a quick melee attack ? having to swap to knife to loot is kinda annoying

[fiery ibex]

Hey….where tf is my prypiat ultimate edition stash items like the magrach???? I only see the Hunter sniper :(((

:(. where’s my stuff bro, am at end game and my ultimate stuff that I paid for isn’t in the stash

Please help

[fiery ibex]

Am really sad now :(, I never got the margach saga or the ward exo

[final vigil]

I keep dying to Faust lol

[fiery ibex]

Shoot the container on his hip

[final vigil]

THANK YOU!

Im wearing freaking NVG and I cant make it out

[fiery ibex]

:). you’re welcome.

[fiery ibex]

Good luck!

[final vigil]

I almost got it this time.

this is nothing compared to freaking Strelok's teleportation thing

[boreal sphinx]

— Do you like movies?
— Have you seen our “Prometheus”?
Yes, daily screenings are still available such as Dark Night of the Bloodsuckers, Revenge of the Monolithians and Burner: Burn Harder just to name a few. However, I do agree that the audience numbers are low and they tend not to walk out alive after the screening.

[brittle charm]

I have PTSD from that and Faust’s fight, mostly because of how laggy it is and how much it made my game crash.

[fervent island]

At this point, don't have a "a bit strong modding" due to the time that has been passed is not excuse compared to the trilogy by the time, the problem is not the time, the problem is that the SDK for now is barebones for receive total conversions.
Each title of the trilogy already had total conversions and story mods in 2 years or less after the release.

[woven hound]

What if strelok is faust

[rugged star]

We all know strelok is really sidorovich

[woven hound]

Sidorovich is faust tho

[dreamy plover]

might be a wild take but I think lost alpha looks better than s2. it's the foliage. Looks a lot more like eastern Europe to me

[dusky pawn]

Seeing as they literally scanned actual plants in the area for S2 and lost alpha just uses some generic assets this is objectively incorrect lol

However S2 suffers from unnecessary blur and it has a less washed out color palette so maybe thats whats bothering you

[dreamy plover]

I mean I spent a chunk of my life in eastern Europe and S2 rarely looks anything like it. And it's not that it bothers me, it just doesn't have that look, that atmosphere. And even if you watch vlogs on YT from trips to the exclusion zone in summer time it still looks closer to Lost Alpha imo

[dusky pawn]

The buildings are literally mostly copied from the place and so are the plants
I also live in a post commie city in a spot with similar vegetation (the whole eastern european plain shares most of it) and I dont see anything wrong

[dusky pawn]

Yeah no the weird dead bushes and washed out colors have nothing to do with how the zone looks like on vlogs

[dreamy plover]

if I could post screens on here we could have a battle but I can't

[dusky pawn]

But its very hard to tell what your actual problem is (for you even) cause articulating vibes isnt easy

[bitter plover]

you also have to consider, that Stalker has vegetation from specific time of year, while some captures can be from completely diferent time, which makes the colour and heigt of vegetation different

Stalker 2 has great assets. They are detailed. Some art style could be changed imo for them (i mean for vegetation), but basicaly only thing that hurts its look are variety (which is getting better witch every patch) and density (also getting better)

[dreamy plover]

yeah totally. IMO the foliage should look something closer to KCD 2. A lot more green, bushes overgrown around the buildings, more poplar trees. Maybe it was cut back for the sake of performance in s2. And a lot was cut for performance gains

[bitter plover]

KCD 2 foliage has very great art style. They made the asset very well visualy, but from graphic fidelity, they are far from S2 quality. If they would be able to merge them, it would be stellar

[dreamy plover]

building are not foliage. I'm specifically talking about the foliage here. It's the green stuff you see in the nature

[dreamy plover]

idk for me s2 has great textures but the foliage looks like dead twigs

[undone plaza]

Idk dude, i can say like Ukrainian
Atmosphere captured actually good
In game fall, and its looking like fall idk

Maybe non-snow winter

[bitter plover]

Yeah, imo ART is one of best things on Stalker 2. They just need to get the UE to better state to not have LODs issues, inconsitency in texture quality and blurr from upscalers. ANd it would be insane

even now, Stalker is absolutely phenomal visual wise on high end PCs

[undone plaza]

Also if you see place near Duga - you see its a lot greener grass

I think grass in zone so dead bcs emission+psy

[dusky pawn]

Then you are objectively wrong since S2 is the only stalker that had irl foliage scanned specifically for it

Its also summer I think

And as for dead twigs yeah we have those too probably because some places like the burnt forest are made up

[dreamy plover]

tbh I might be, all I'm saying is it doesn't look great and it's just my opinion and that's ok

[dusky pawn]

Czech plain surrounded by mountains vs outskirts of the largest swamp in all of europe
H m m

Id atleast look at examples that arent behind one of the largest mountain ranges in all of europe when it comes to comparing nature

[dusky pawn]

Likely because of the dumbass blur which I also hate

[undone plaza]

Czech foliage fr so different
In general region-to-region in Ukraine different

[dusky pawn]

Might also be a different season as for kcd never played it but if its spring time then its incomparable to summer time in this climate

[bitter plover]

Czech vegetation is very simmilar to Ukraine one, you just need to look at simmilar places in terms of soil and etc.

Stalkers vegetation is great, it just need to get crispy clear, bcs the upscalers blurr and engines blurr hurt it a lot

[undone plaza]

If i remember right czech have super different soil type tbh

[bitter plover]

depends on location

We have very diverse soil types around the coutry

but we have a lot of places, that are basicaly same

[dreamy plover]

IDK. I remember playing shadow of chornobyl in 2007 and it immediately had that easter europe feel in cordon. Poplar trees, the winding road. S2 dont have that immediate esthetic

[bitter plover]

SoC was highly artistic

S2 is more realistic

[dreamy plover]

then the exclusion zone must be totally different to the rest of europe if s2 'realism' is anything to go by

again just an opinion. And I've never physically been to the exclusion zone myself sadly

[dusky pawn]

It isnt

S2 looks very similar to varmia where I live

With the only difference being topography+ the super swamp that starts north

I used to hang out in an abandoned gravel factory near my house and it basically looked like S2 does in the summer

Ok I even managed to identify you 3 species of real plants that grow in UA on art station S2 foliage pics and I am terrible when it comes to botanics #📸┃screens_and_videos

They even bothered to include amanita muscaria caps that are half eaten or in different stages of life and you compare it to the lifeless twigs from og stalkers bruh

[craggy sphinx]

To all the people giving stalker a bad name in the comments on the metro 4 announcement give your heads a wobble and do your research 😂
Developer: 4A Games has operated in Ukraine and Malta since 2005, created by industry veterans, many of whom worked on S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl.
Have a great day everyone

[dusky pawn]

WHAT

[brittle charm]

What?

What announcement?

[craggy sphinx]

It’s on Facebook

[brittle charm]

Metro 4 hasn’t even been officially announced, it’s just rumors

[craggy sphinx]

I know but still the comments got me raging 😂

[dusky pawn]

Aww its just rumors

[dusky pawn]

Also wtf are they writing about lmao

[brittle charm]

There’s some people saying there’s gonna a trailer or something next week but that’s not confirmed

[craggy sphinx]

How disappointed in stalker 2 they were and I’m like cracks fingers game on

[brittle charm]

Probably just talking shit about S2, which is really understandable.

[dusky pawn]

Ahh the usual

Its becoming a sort of olympic sport nowadays

[craggy sphinx]

True buuuut i had to tell them the above make them eat their words and also tell them in the summer to give it another go when DLC drops

[brittle charm]

Like I’m thinking these guys are disgruntled Stalker fans but they sound more like random guys using a post about a similar but completely different game that hasn’t even been released or announced as an excuse to dunk on S2.

[dusky pawn]

Its usually tourists not fans

[brittle charm]

Exactly what I’m thinking.

[dusky pawn]

They will complain anyway until gsc releases a netflix anime with sad music only then will they forgive them

[brittle charm]

Criticism and frustration about broken promises and an unfinished game is fine. But just complaining about it just cause sounds like they need a job IRL.

That’s like me complaining about my local pizza when someone brings up the economy.

[dreamy plover]

Wow you are very passionate about changing somebody's opinion on discord but it ain't happening lil bro. I'm talking about how the foliage looks in general not how detailed a leaf is in comparison to a leaf from a game made in the early 2000s

[dusky pawn]

I dont really care about you in particular just dont want someone to actually believe this and start parotting it

And yeah the foliage in general looks meh because of the weird blur this game has I think everyone knows this

However you are coping if you think its not realistic to the area or less detailed

[dreamy plover]

okay...

[obsidian pond]

im new anyone wanna play? (stalker faction)

[bitter plover]

Metro 4 was confirmed by insiders, that it will appear on State of Play and will be officialy announced

It was confirmed by Natethehate, which is very credible insider

[bitter plover]

how are they giving it a bad name?

[dusky pawn]

Ehh so leak still

[bitter plover]

yep

there is also leaked build of canceled version from 2022 going around

[woven hound]

i didnt see no metro 1, 2 or 3

[dusky pawn]

We dont know the name smartass

[cyan sparrow]

Bye bye bot 🤖 botty bot 🤖

[cyan sparrow]

Based

[craggy sphinx]

Just calling it a disappointment when they haven’t played it since launch

[bitter plover]

yeah, that would make sense

[craggy sphinx]

My problem is I’m incredibly loyal 😭

[bitter plover]

how is that relevant?

[graceful fossil]

Anybody else want to see a FN/FAL in game.

[bitter plover]

Stalker and Metro are very very different games. If someone will shit on Stalker, just bcs it released broken and not then play it again and will bad name it bcs they think Metro is better. Its just their dumbness, that they cant understand, that they just like different kind of game

[dreamy dagger]

Another day without engine upgrade

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAm going krazzeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Mark this as spam, you flathead @frigid hill

[sick rain]

is 1.9 coming this week or next?

[foggy olive]

You mean tomorrow or today?

[bitter plover]

Krezzin will get even more crazy. What a day

[glacial relic]

(which is getting better witch every patch) and density (also getting better)

Wait are they adding more diverse models in the enviro with each patch? And improving the density? I've never noticed that

[bitter plover]

yes

1.5-1.7 every patch did that

They aded more assets into grass and flower vegetation pool. Some trees were added. And mostly, there are more trees everywhere. Its not by much, but it is

And grass/flowers are much more diverse. Some areas have big difference. Others are same as before

[glacial relic]

really cool, I'll pay more attention then, and hopefully they'll do the same with next week's patch 🤞

[bitter plover]

if you look at Vatis videos about patch notes and changes after its releases. He shows some changes about foliage and trees in it

[carmine star]

Hey Krezzin when did the last patch release again?

[still current]

Somewhere around 2 months

Patch should come next week

It's been always the same duration between patches

Logically, it'll be the same

[still current]

Engine upgrade will be 2.0, so no less than 2more months

[dreamy dagger]

I have 1.5 months to live

........................NoooooooOoOOoOOooo00000000000000000000000

[oblique igloo]

BUT MUCH MORE TIME HAS PASSED SINCE PATCH 1.8 UNTOLD STORIES, CERTAINLY THEY WILL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE DLC AND MANY DEVELOPERS HAVE CONCENTRATED ON THE DLC AND OTHERS ON THE PATCH, HOPING IT DOESN'T BREAK ANYTHING BUT IT'S A GOOD CORRECTIVE PATCH AS IT ALSO PUTS NEW QUESTS X18, ETC.sorry caps lock guys

However, it is important that they have done things well and that they work well for the LDC because it will be important for the continuation of the game's life, it will be an important stage and in my opinion GSC knows this well.

[ocean zephyr]

Okay fair enough, that's a good point.

[still current]

Yeah. This patch has a reason behind it. Can't say it, but you'll probably know yourself when it's out.

Mol1t already teased the patch content, so ig there is no need to say anything.

Either way, it should come any day next week

[fluid beacon]

Bigger enemy radius and binoculars yessss

Or the bicycle is real

[still current]

I mean, patch testing started a while back, so the aim there to provide you all a well tested patch with minimal bugs and such. The wait is always worth it quality wise.

[cyan sparrow]

5 months for hotfix

[still current]

That's probably 2.0

[oblique igloo]

ok yes I guess I know you can't say anything but I really hope that all this time they have done things well and I believe that it will solve many of the things that are still not going well

binocular release dlc probably yes

[still current]

Naturally. I won't overhype anyone and would probably postpone the overhype to 2.0

[cyan sparrow]

You need to have content for binos in the first place

[still current]

Would probably be similar to honta jobs

[fluid beacon]

More bird types and bird watching checklist to make binoculars worth while

Fishing dlc

[still current]

Dw guys, most of our worries will fade after engine upgrade.

I suspect it to come prior to dlc release, so there's plenty of time ahead to perfect things

[fluid beacon]

How does one know this?

[still current]

Patch work only exists to improve quality and thus far, things were steadily improved. Engine upgrade will open the way for actual deeper improvements and would present the long awaited radius extention and quality improvements

Why else would it be a thing if not for that

[fluid beacon]

I've put off playing since like 1.4, just want to have the full experience instead of needing to replay

[still current]

That's the best way to do it

I'd recommend the engine upgrade as a start

This fall will be pretty interesting

[cyan sparrow]

Damm another year of waiting

[still current]

I mean summer

This summer

We'll have both dlc and pretty much a lot of long awaited stuff

[oblique igloo]

Yes I agree with you that the patches we have had have greatly improved the game and the engine update will certainly open up to much deeper applications and very important constant improvements and additions to the mini quest weapons above all.

[still current]

Pretty sure we will be fairly satisfied

My hype is back and that means quite a lot

[cyan sparrow]

You got my attention a little bit

[small quest]

I would say don’t expect this engine upgrade to be a silver bullet.

We don’t have a good track history of smooth non buggy launches.

[cyan sparrow]

So they planning to release the game as should be done back in the 2024?

[fluid beacon]

In my opinion I think they should scrap multiplayer entirely and focus on sp and dlc quality, its been so long I don't see a lot of people caring to come back and play MP if they done the game already

[small quest]

Yup. Bin MP entirely. I’d be surprised if they have been working on it tbh.

Resource hog for zero gain. Focus on the core product.

[fluid beacon]

Imagine launching when we're "fingers crossed" close to GTA 6

[smoky hawk]

what does a bad game have to do with this?

[cyan sparrow]

I still don’t understand with so many devs on board everything takes such amount of time, and when gets update then straight await for hotfix begins.

[fluid beacon]

Stalker or GTA lol

[smoky hawk]

whatever makes you madder

[fluid beacon]

Either or just hope GTA launches complete and we ain't cope waiting for years to play

[shell flax]

If you’re in PC you will be

[fluid beacon]

Pro plus pc

[cyan sparrow]

It wont happen, GTA need RAM 🐏 xD

[smoky hawk]

even if GTA launches complete itll still be complete ass shit like Rockstarts other catalogue

there is no reason to wait for it

[still current]

There was no update on MP so, it's likely to have no priority over development

[fluid beacon]

Sales success says otherwise and player counts but you hate what you need

[shell flax]

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if multiplayer development doesn’t start until the second dlc launches

[smoky hawk]

my game is better because it's slop has spread thru more lobotomites

[tame gazelle]

how can stalker 2 get multiplayer? the game has ping in singleplayer. jesus

[fluid beacon]

Neither is my game but one is still in a state of incompleteness after all this time, hope R* with their infinite money can put out a good GTA

[still current]

Yeah. Core game takes priority

[smoky hawk]

like I said, you can see the trackrecord Rockstar has, zero good games

[tame gazelle]

we went to the moon again before GSC could fix collisions on objects.

[fluid beacon]

In your opinion but not facts

[smoky hawk]

my opinion is the fact

[cyan sparrow]

Crimson Desert released more updates by listening to community under 3 weeks than GSC in those years 😭

[fluid beacon]

How can you say RDR2 is not a good game

[shell flax]

3 times GSC’s size and the studio is an MMO studio

[smoky hawk]

movies should stop stepping on games toes, it's boring shlock, I am so tried of this "interpersonal story" shit, every single byte of this game is just needless meandering about useless shit to make it the most unfun game ever, its only propped up by lobotomites, aka, the Playstation player, who believes watching a movie is the pinacle of gaming

[cyan sparrow]

Yes I can tell the difference but we speaking about 3 weeks vs years, even if it’s 3x bigger then GSC are behind in efficiency

[oblique igloo]

rdr2 its a masterpiece of game Even today, the life in that game in RDR2 is still a tough one for the best open world games and it's something spectacular.

[fluid beacon]

Same can be said about games being made from books lol

[smoky hawk]

like what

[fluid beacon]

Imagine waking up and drinking copeaid for GSC who has released such a broken product then assuming they'll fix it all when you have no inside knowledge of anything other than cope

[smoky hawk]

Stalker isnt based on books?

do you think Stalker is an adaptation of Roadside Picnic? you dumb?

[fluid beacon]

Wasn't saying that did i

[fluid beacon]

You assume too much

[shell flax]

Stalker has always launched in varying degrees of rough shape

Hell wasn’t Clear Sky even more fucked on launch?

[tame gazelle]

crimson desert had 250 devs

[still current]

what the fuck is happening now

[smoky hawk]

true, the answer to the earlier comment "same can be said about games being made from books"
is, no, they cant, the material source isnt what is wrong about RDR2, but it is it's design

[tame gazelle]

i thought gsc had more

[smoky hawk]

much like Uncharted

[cyan sparrow]

This

[bitter plover]

well, in last intereview, they said, that they have ppl working on some MP project (which is deffinitely S2 MP). So at least that

[cyan sparrow]

Sadge

[tame gazelle]

GSC cant even push out a hotfix for the Burers and Poltergeists because they are not even allowed to "release patches for a single issue on its own" - this is a quote btw.

[cyan sparrow]

How to work something where ground is broken

[fluid beacon]

Most would say it's a masterpiece of technological triumph especially when you remember it came out for PS4 and XOne, still finding new things about the small details to this day, R* push the envelope up for those things, story wise meh but the actual games are always above the rest

[cyan sparrow]

And putting nda on hotfix lmao

[tame gazelle]

imagine having 2 mobs that wallhacks u and has a dmg that deal over 90% each hit early game and they not fixed it for 5 months. L O L

[bitter plover]

GSC literaly pumped shit ton of patches and added things ppl wanted.

[tame gazelle]

like what the faust.

[cyan sparrow]

I didn’t want items oneshotting me through the walls

[fluid beacon]

But it's still the same non existent ai and radius blob game, just with plasters to fool the average player into thinking it's fixed

[tame gazelle]

support is like "we are investigating and are actively working on a fix after identifying the issue, and will be included in an upcoming patch" - wthat

[bitter plover]

You said, that CS did updates and did things, that ppl watned and that GSC didnt. Which is factual lie. Nothing more to add

[tame gazelle]

which patch

[bitter plover]

sure buddy

[smoky hawk]

Story is boring shlock and the things people keep losing their entire minds over is complete fucking useless shit, maybe they should use the money required to make the horses balls curl up to hire a QA person to tell them that their gameplay is fucking ass and that their slow as fuck animation based movement is dumb, and that their missions are awfully boring

[fluid beacon]

In your opinion

[cyan sparrow]

I said ‚more” In the meaning of the time frame. Read with comprehension

[smoky hawk]

in fact

do you have so little self worth that you dont think your own opinion on a piece of media is the correct one?

[fluid beacon]

Lol sure bud, forgot we are all hive mind

[tame gazelle]

how does stalker 2 keep any new player the last months when they game is broken and enemies wallhack you i wonder

[smoky hawk]

hive mind? no, you are just wrong

[bitter plover]

its great from technological standpoint. And great to loreplaying. But outside of that, its pretty average gameplay with linear story and great graphics. Its larp simulator most of anything

[fluid beacon]

And your shilling for GSC which is also wrong

[bronze holly]

Patch when

[smoky hawk]

almost daily I talk about S2 wrong points, but its only shilling when I talk about the wrong points of a game you like

[bitter plover]

still not true

[tame gazelle]

its not a good sign when a singleplayer game starts to mimic star citizen

[smoky hawk]

all of the mod team talks about where GSC fucked up and we all have opinions that are not in line with them, we are volunteers, we arent employees

[cyan sparrow]

Subjective opinion it has place to be true by my observation.

[fluid beacon]

Did I come in and say anything about S2 over GTA? No. I states releasing anything S2 MP near GTA would be foolish

[cyan sparrow]

Lmao

[bitter plover]

there is nothing simmilar to SC here

maybe delays

[smoky hawk]

I dont understand why, considering S2 MP is not competing with GTA

[fluid beacon]

You latching onto me liking GTA when I didn't say I did lol

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-meme-walter-white-tongue-lick-walter-white-licking-gif-13235663215755233337

[cyan sparrow]

I cannot unpatch that

[fluid beacon]

You can't see why releasing it anywhere near GTA would be mad?

[tame gazelle]

take a look at the NPCs and how they act and walk around. You will notice it. They stand on couches, they collision with doors - with each other. They suddenly hang off a roof by their hand... i mean

[dreamy dagger]

I'mma pass this joint, try it passes joint

[fluid beacon]

When entire industry is avoiding launching near GTA lol

[smoky hawk]

no I cannot, I could see your argument if it was anything like gta, but it isnt, and I also cannot see anybody that would like GTA, such people have no intelligence

[dreamy dagger]

Joint Operations Centre!

[tame gazelle]

first patch after 5 months: "we opened a door"

[cyan sparrow]

Unfortunately the diversity in opinions will be only „slowed” down xD

[dreamy dagger]

Cancel Stalker 2

[tame gazelle]

its a nice door tho

[shell flax]

Have you played the Trilogy? They levitate through walls, burn themselves to death on campfires offscreen and more

[fluid beacon]

Just cause you don't like a game makes people who do unintelligent? Go figure

[smoky hawk]

you already did

[dreamy dagger]

Nobody gives a rat's ass!

[sick rain]

yes

[bitter plover]

still nothing simmilar. Main issue of SC AI is backend. In terms of Stalker, its sometimes path finding or getting stuck in calculating what to do

[tame gazelle]

frontend backend it still looks the same to me

[smoky hawk]

it does, if you had ANY conviction at all you'd say your own opinions are the right ones, otherwise, why would you hold the wrong opinion?

[tame gazelle]

if it doesnt work it doesnt work

[dreamy dagger]

@bitter plover Multiplaya when?

[fluid beacon]

In my opinion you're wrong so that makes it fact from your intelligence XD

[bitter plover]

Idk. Your mom i guess

[dreamy dagger]

I'm this close to freeing 160 gb of space

[smoky hawk]

yes, and in my opinion, youre a lobotomite,

[bitter plover]

[smoky hawk]

you never will

[fluid beacon]

You have no brain

[dreamy dagger]

What is up with you and Mozi always thinking about moms? Are you into GILFS?!??!

[smoky hawk]

Krezzin's "this close" is literally the bottom of the Marianna Trench

[smoky hawk]

from a lobotomite, this is an honour

[fluid beacon]

Think the engine upgrade will lower size?

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-peggy-bundy-katey-sagal-married-with-children-lol-gif-23009316

[bitter plover]

[smoky hawk]

you wish

[fluid beacon]

Did you learn the word today and love to use it

[dreamy dagger]

Why would you want to decrease your size... @dusty viper Give this man some knowledge...

[smoky hawk]

when the hat fits

[bitter plover]

honestly it can. But who knows

[dreamy dagger]

GILF LOVER spotted. Lmao. Man's into grandmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MASsive disappointment!

[fluid beacon]

Getting offended cause I said S2 MP near GTA would be silly, your a fool and an incel just from your instant aggression, neanderthal shill

[smoky hawk]

expecting lower sizes from new games is like expecting a win from the gambling machine
at this point youre better off expecting for GSC to stop using lumen

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/sidorovich-laughing-sidorovich-stalker-gsc-game-world-gsc-gif-10511308776135339550

[bitter plover]

[smoky hawk]

mad? lol

[bitter plover]

well, stopping using lumen would make the size bigger

[small quest]

The GSC D riders in these chats are immense. Can’t tell if cope or stooge.

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-face-troll-troll-face-meme-gif-14801252562890657989

[fluid beacon]

You clearly are lol

[worldly ingot]

I dont think S2 MP is coming lads

[smoky hawk]

am I?

[dreamy dagger]

Are you talking about Tlap? Mans a known GSCatekeeper tho

[tame gazelle]

the file size of this game is the least of its problems

[dusty viper]

Not using Lumen will make the game bigger

[small quest]

I only brought this game for MP

[dusty viper]

File size is irrelevant

[smoky hawk]

HO NO, WORDS ON THE SCREEN, MY WORST ENEMY, MY HANDS ARE LITERALLY BRUNING AHHHHHHHHH

is that what you want?

[bitter plover]

two words. Sofia Vergara

[fluid beacon]

Yes since you are keeping on at something I said about mp and got personal, yes I'd say your big bad

[dreamy dagger]

Johnsons size matters!

[smoky hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295

[dreamy dagger]

Oh hell yeah. ERECTICUS!!!!!!!!!!! Kek!

[worldly ingot]

Yup liking a game you dont is disgusting really

[bitter plover]

take pills bro

[dreamy dagger]

I ain't takin no Viagra Boys!

[smoky hawk]

not the point

[small quest]

Liking or shilling? There is a diff. We all like the game in some form bro. We are on the discord for it.

[smoky hawk]

do you? nha I hate games

[dusty viper]

What is the point?
The way to make the game smaller would be to use Ray Tracing wholly and entirely.

[smoky hawk]

if you were a real gamer, you would hate games

[fluid beacon]

Loads of GSC butt lickers defending their broken a** game which will still be broken even with the mythical touted engine upgrade, hate to be in a companies pocket when I don't get paid to do so, dummies.

[smoky hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/its-grim-its-peak-its-mid-old-man-it's-sunday-gif-8453053925671532900

[dusty viper]

I hope its the same hate you feel for SoC / CS / CoP ?

[bitter plover]

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/absolutely-asian-parliament-attractive-benjammins-flirting-gif-15820951358516899642

[tame gazelle]

i love to pay 60 dollars for products that works sometimes.

[fluid beacon]

Loves them apart from unmodded cs

[worldly ingot]

What part of the game doesn’t work I genuinely don’t understand what you people are talking about

[dreamy dagger]

I aint paying no more

[worldly ingot]

Like can you not finish the game or smth

[smoky hawk]

the point is expecting a modern games size to get smaller with an engine update is a crapshoot, Lumen being done away with is literally impossible, and even that would be less wishful thinking than the earlier

[fluid beacon]

Game is half what the ogs were and your a boot licker if you deny that fact

[dusty viper]

They are broken too. All 3 of them.

[small quest]

First port of call as defence. Mention OG trilogy.

If fail. Ask if they have played gamma.

[smoky hawk]

and Im the one whose mad?

[dusty viper]

I dont want the game to become smaller in file size. I dont care for this.

[fluid beacon]

You still keeping on mate, go touch grass, loser energy

[smoky hawk]

You literally own the worst opinions on Engine Discussions brother

its fine

[tame gazelle]

Enemies that one shot you through walls and they have not fixed this issue for months and months and months and months. I breaks ironman playthroughs and whatnot on master difficulty. Its broken.

[dusty viper]

Something can be banal and still be a correct response.

[worldly ingot]

Half of what? Game takes 150+ hours to fully explore

[tame gazelle]

Enemies throw objects through solid objects. If this is not broken i dont know what is.

[bitter plover]

now seriously. Why its half of OGs?

[dusty viper]

It is 2026.
Yes, right now a SSD is expensive. That too will pass. A 4 TB SSD was 200 EUR in 2024 though.
Who cares?

[worldly ingot]

Yes burers and poltergeists can hit you through walls, but besides that nothing in the game is broken broken

[dusty viper]

Seriously - who cares for 200 GB when 4 TB was that cheap?

[dreamy dagger]

My file library does

[smoky hawk]

AI is basically half of what CS had, youd have a better chance if it was COP, that would be like, Active AI Interections

[dreamy dagger]

[bitter plover]

bro you have like 10 harddisks. just delete something

[smoky hawk]

I despise your Moores Law Infection, it is obhorrent

[worldly ingot]

Some people don’t want to spend 200 euro on storage alone, my whole PC cost 600 euro

[fluid beacon]

The core mechanics, brain dead ai, brain dead pathing, anomalies which may as well not be there cause they're easy to deal with, economics which are broken still to this day, glitchy story animations

Game maybe big but it's boring when stuff is broken

[tame gazelle]

Nothing? Lumen? AI? Fake Shadows?

[dusty viper]

I literally sent you hardware for free

[smoky hawk]

hmmm, let me guess, you mostly played Call of Pripyat

[dusty viper]

It is normal. That is how things work.

[worldly ingot]

I guess we played different versions of SoC, CS, CoP and stalker 2 I guess

[tame gazelle]

like this flashlight shadow they added that just floats in the air behind the characters and/or objects. holy weird.

[smoky hawk]

it has been untrue since 2004

[fluid beacon]

Competed all 3 and moved onto mods like most did

[bitter plover]

The game has issues. Some things needs love, like some rebalancing. And fixing some bugs and engine issues. But its not some broken mess as you make ti up to be

[small quest]

I get a bug every time I boot the game. Artefacts under the floor. Wallhack enemies. Visual bugs in lighting. Random AI spawning in front of you. Still the occasional flying ragdoll. 10000 bloodsucker spawn.

These are basic fixes. Any other game. Basic fixes.

[smoky hawk]

not denying, we have a bell ringer

[dusty viper]

OK. Some people want to eat and not be fat but that is impossible.

[fluid beacon]

You like making things up in your little mind don't you

[dusty viper]

SSDs and HDDS arent like processing power

[smoky hawk]

well I can confirm this, I mean, you link your Steam prof in your Discord prof

huh

did you actually play Clear Sky?

[small quest]

That is the worst shadow I’ve ever seen. I really struggle to understand it. Look at the old lighting system. Hard flashlight shadows cast inside and out.

This fuzzy black outline we got. What bro?!

[fluid beacon]

Ever heard of multi accounts or gog, numpty

[tame gazelle]

For 60 dollars the support of this game should be more active, 5 months waiting when there are severeal bugs that are very appaerent is not good. And I don't understand why anyone would want to wait that long for something that should get fixed.

[dreamy dagger]

My file library grew big by 1 TB since 2025

[dusty viper]

When Clear Sky came out and it was 10 GB in 2008 or so, did you protest its file size? Or did you accept it back then?

[smoky hawk]

mayhaps, but you do have 100 combined hours on COP + SOC
I think it weird you own those 2 and not CS

[dreamy dagger]

Shits expanding faster than NASA's plans

[tame gazelle]

Do people not like their own money or what

[fluid beacon]

If you look at my account you'd see I don't own Cs on that account sooo means I have them elsewhere too

[dreamy dagger]

Blood Money, I loved that game!

[smoky hawk]

I had no way to accept it, not everybody is as old as you, Moores Law has been dead since 2004, we do not get doubling effects from mere sizing

[smoky hawk]

no that I do say is weird, did you specficially buy only SOC and COP?

I mean, theyre cheaper on the bundle

[fluid beacon]

No I had cs elsewhere

Wasn't a bundle when I bought them

[dusty viper]

We are discussing the SIZE of the game. From 2001 till 2008 games got 12-15 times bigger. From 2008 till 2024 games got just 15-17 times bigger.

This is unserious. You dont need to be old, do research

[shell flax]

I think I’d get less cancer standing in Reactor 4 right now

[worldly ingot]

I mean you are saying things like stalker 2 has bad AI compared to SoC brother

[smoky hawk]

I believe they were in a bundle even when I bought them back at 2014, but its irrelevant anyway

[bitter plover]

core mechanics are literaly same as in OGs. AI should be better, but its not worse than in OGs. Same with Alife. Anomalies are literaly easy same way as in OGs, pathfinding is sometimes stupid, but it was even worse in OGs (enemies literaly never flanked, they just had so bad path finding, that they literaly chose longer route. Enemies also knew your location 100%, there was nothing like check if you are visible to them. It is here). Economics are very okay, they are tedious for harder difficulties, but they are okay. Glitchy anomations are stil muuuch better than anything from Trilogy.

THis game has issue, but dont come here saying, taht it half of OG, bcs those game were not better in this

[smoky hawk]

80 hours on COP

[tame gazelle]

Reactor 4 is good for your sinuses

[fluid beacon]

Bro the ai was infinitely better in CS even when broken

And soc

[worldly ingot]

It most definitely is better than SoC, you can argue about CoP if you want

[dusty viper]

I do believe combat AI in CS was overall better than S2 is right now, but A-Life simulation for S2 is equal to CS. And crushes SoC with ease.
I sometimes think most fans dont play the OGs IDK

[shell flax]

Didn’t the AI often break in CS to the point that the entire faction war system just fucked itself?

[dreamy dagger]

CS sucks chicken toes and you can't prove me wrong

[slow crypt]

yeap is shit

[dusty viper]

Dont make me question me sending you the 3070 for free brother ;d

[bitter plover]

No. Only CS had better AI in some aspects. It had little better Alife (we will get over that soon). And it had smart cover system, bcs they handpicked assets and ticked them as cover for NPCs in combat. YOu cant do that to huge open world. S2 Alife is better than in SoC

[smoky hawk]

no, you brough into conversation the size and pirce of SSDs, and that will get better in the future
this is a diseasaed thought, there is a diseaded way of thinking about tech that is characteristically old
it comes from Moores Law and the 80s-2004 way Tech just, kept getting better by multiple of 2 every year or so, but thats dead, its been dead for 2 decades, however, this happening has encrusted a way of thinking into tech people that has been hard to get rid off, this way of thinking is what comes in the future will always be better than what I had and therefore I need not question the now, for I am stopping the future that will be better
I abhor this

[fluid beacon]

There is no simulation it's a radius spawn system with offline unspawned NPC's which makes snipers useless, how's that better than the ogs which you could snipe and use binoculars?

[bitter plover]

yes

[fluid beacon]

Why you defending something which is worse than what we had even after the bandaid patches

[worldly ingot]

That’s why people say most people criticizing Stalker 2 never played the OGs

[bitter plover]

thats literaly no true.

[dusty viper]

Moore's Law is not about SSDs. It is about processing power.

If you WANT a small file size - champion Ray Tracing for all games. No Raster lighting will help bring down file sizes a LOT

[slow crypt]

What does A-Life matter when in Stalker 2 they can't even take cover behind a tree?

[small quest]

Shouldn’t we want the Ai to be better than a 20year old game?

[worldly ingot]

But besides some things in CoP it’s really not tho

[smoky hawk]

yes, but what I just said is not about SSDs its about a state of mind

[dusty viper]

Is this the Dave cope video?

[shell flax]

they can

[bitter plover]

we should. Thats not the topic tho

[slow crypt]

They may be able to do it, but doing it well is another matter

[small quest]

Checking. I do get enraged by the comparison as if that’s the target.

[dusty viper]

I wont accept inferior assets or worse geometry or less content in my game because someone is stuck on bad hardware?

[fluid beacon]

The ai is dumb, the mutants acted like humans and hid when player ontop of anything? The pathing of ai is basic as

[worldly ingot]

Like AI and aim is questionable, still better than SoC is all I mean

[tame gazelle]

AI-life combat: "Aight boys, we're gonna meet on this road at 3pm! REMEMBER, stand in a row so we all can have a fair shot! Ok? Lets go."

[smoky hawk]

let me repeat what I just said "...encrusted a way of thinking into tech people that has been hard to get rid off, this way of thinking is what comes in the future will always be better than what I had and therefore I need not question the now, for I am stopping the future that will be better"

[bitter plover]

nah, Im dissapointed too. Most of us are. We want more. But we want straight facts and we dont like, when someone comes here abnd start yapping with things, that are not true. And most ppl do that exactly by comparing it to OGs

[smoky hawk]

Im sorry Char, you prove me right

[fluid beacon]

Who cares about soc when S2 is worse than CS and CoP

[slow crypt]

When an Ubisoft game surpasses you in artificial intelligence...

[dusty viper]

https://youtu.be/Kc1OTaj4V8k

Here.

[worldly ingot]

You mean they did that in the OG games? They do that in this one too, try it my guy

[smoky hawk]

you have a parasite in your brain that will always tell you, the new thing is always better, if I question the new thing, then I am stopping progress

[dusty viper]

Because it is better.
I love old games. But I do not love old hardware.
Art can be great always. Engineering can have new potholes damaging it, but it goes in a way in which new IS better

[bitter plover]

Mutants literaly do taht in OGs. Mutants literaly get stucked in OGs, when you go on stairs, bcs they cant understand it, even when they can easily go to you. Again. Stop comparing it to OGs, when you dont know

[fluid beacon]

Your describing everyone defending s2

[dusty viper]

I am an industrial engineer not some hippie

[tame gazelle]

the AI cant hit each other when they stand 2m apart face to face on a road, meanwhile they will headshot beam the player through a 2 millimeter gap 150m away (oops i forgot the 100m bubble).

[smoky hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/ne-tak-gif-4325313957143818086

YOU PROVE ME RIGHT AGAIN

[dusty viper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc1OTaj4V8k&t

See this.

[smoky hawk]

I am presenting this as an essay

[fluid beacon]

The ai could complete missions in the og even without player interference, can they do that in S2 now?

[smoky hawk]

they couldnt

[dusty viper]

What MUST HAPPEN for the game to be smaller in file size? Tell me the tradeoff. Stop with these silly meta narratives. be specific

[smoky hawk]

this was never actually iterated uppon

[bitter plover]

if only ppl didnt get mad, when fights resolved before ppl get close to these fights. They might didnt code this shit into it

[dusty viper]

That never happened.

[fluid beacon]

Say that to cs

[bitter plover]

thats not true bro

[smoky hawk]

Im not talking about the confines of Stalker 2 or games, I am talking about a manner of thinking that you fall into, when it comes to the whole of Technology

[tame gazelle]

yes blame the players for bad coding

[shell flax]

Honestly at this point this has turned into Autark getting fact checked and it’s funny as shit

[worldly ingot]

I am a fan of old games. I am a fan of Fallout 1, 2, old Wolfenstein series etc. but you are blatantly lying about things that are in the game already and better than the originals for no reason

[cyan sparrow]

Im sorry my bad

I just wanted to pkay the game

[tame gazelle]

hahaha uve not even said anything

[bitter plover]

nah. They put it in intentionaly, bcs some idiots wanted that

[fluid beacon]

Love a good fact check by people so easily upset 😭

[dusty viper]

I am a Clear Sky fan.

[worldly ingot]

You are talking about something they planned to add along with the NPCs being able to complete the main quest before you (in SoC), just blatant lies again