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1.7.1 is out and they say nothing about burer and bs over spawn.
PATCH 1.7.1 WE ARE SO BACK
dude shut up you have gamma server tag
so what are you doing here if you're not interested, you can see how
so?
its literally just out literally no onr has experience it
wait, why I don't see anything in update history on Steam? where to see changes?
thank god i've been proven wrong 
and what i said that offend you?
We are back with Update 1.7.1. This time we brought back artifacts that were hiding underground (even though Hamster begged us not to do so until he sells all his brand-new shovels) and… power cables! molt is crazy hahaha😂
this is the stalker discord, you have underestimated out hatred for gamma
Is south Garbage supposed to be full of Burers?
I just killed my 7th in a row and I'm starting to wonder if this is intentional...
Or if it's like the blind dog waves we had a few patches ago.
@waxen marten what about artifact fields that already have an artifact underground though?
update just dropped might wanna install that
I REPORTED IT 🫡 Fixed an issue where the power lines could disappear on approach.
i dont underestimated it, i just dont give a f* about your hatred. sincerely.
it's 8.2 GB for me
i think it will reset artifacts in existing saves
okay and?
eww gamma
youre still complaining when you havent experienced it
asking about it
what am i compain?
1.7 = + 50 FPS => 1.7.1 probably - 30 FPS
Whoa that was weird good thing I went back out and tried again
Didn't see any mention of Burers in the patch notes.
But fingers crossed, I suppose
can someone please check if it's possible to sell artifacts 
It says 7gb now
i said they dont say anything about mutant spawn. am i said that they didnt fix it?
it said 7 GB in the scheduled list for me, now while downloading it says 8.2 GB
wait i think your wording is just really wrong and i might have misinterpreted what you were trying to say
8.5gb for ps5
Apparently 6.95 on Xbox assuming your on pc
i sincerely apologize if that's the case
yeah
nvm
when patvh 1.7.2???
if you return to anomalous fields with underground artefacts, they should go back to the overworld
did the patch fix poltergeists throwing stuff through walls molt?
I cant wait to check artifacts right now
Great, will test it soon
What about wide anomalies
2 artifacts for 1, its christmas come on
I just want to know if I can play again without being up to my neck in Burers
This!
they are come back ? https://i.gyazo.com/da60994125bce57aa326fa638eb6623d.jpg
burers and my previously stated issue don’t seem to be in the patch notes 💔
What about poltergeists, burers throwing through walls
And also if they still throw objects through walls
why they are red? its very not good for environment, also could scary birds
neither do npcs with wall hacks
Omg surely they fixed that
@violet dune missing in 1.7 i reported it
@waxen marten hey sorry, any news on when ps5 mods will be available? Maybe next year?
bro that’s not happening for a while
Ahh ok
i reckon like second quarter of 2026 at least
Well that sucks a”” lol
i'm tryna check the patchnote but my wifi is so bad arghhh
Be bored to death of the game by then lmao
In update 1.7.1, we exterminated some pesky anomalies, especially underground ones that were stealing artifacts from the Zone, and returned the missing power lines.
Introduced fail-safe mechanism for cases where mod incompatibility prevents users from launching title
Fixed an issue where the power lines could disappear on approach.
Fixed an issue where the Ward NPC could teleport in the player's field of view after killing noontiders during the Wishful Thinking mission.
Fixed an issue where the Ward soldiers could not help Skif to hold position during the Assault On The Duga mission.
Fixed a massive performance drop on opening PDA while the Shadows option is set to Epic.
Fixed an issue where the player could sprint while overweighted with loot.
Fixed an issue where the player could observe texture flickering on the staircase after the cutscene during the Back To The Slag Heap mission.
Fixed an issue where the player could have visual artifacts on Richter during the cinematic in the The Price Goes Up mission.
Fixed shadows on Skif's hands during the cutscene in the Back To The Slag Heap mission.
Fixed an issue where the player could use weapon attachments from the trade window.
Fixed an issue where the settings values could be displayed incorrectly after using the auto-detect or reset settings features.
Fixed an issue that could cause artifacts to spawn under the ground.
Fixed several issues with dead zone settings for the DualSense controller.
Fixed crashes.
Thank you very much for your ongoing feedback and support. Comments you write on social media and bug reports you send to the Technical Support Hub help the Zone become a better place with each update. Please, continue sharing your thoughts here on Steam and other socials, and if you see the anomaly that is not supposed to be in the Zone, report it to the Technical Support Hub:
How much does this update weigh? I can't figure out because I was installing mods at that moment.
ur not missing much, the only impactful mod available on console is better balistics difficulty overhaul
burers and poltergeists throwing stuff through walls better be fixed bro....
hey thats not really bad, they fixed alot of things
Anyone wanna test this? I'm just gonna put the game on pause if it isn't.
it’s not in the patch notes so no
yeah fr, ive been putting off playing because of that stupid ass bug
Anyone have save near poltergeist? Curious if this is fixed but not in patch notes
they would put it at the top if it was fixed
it aint that game changing imo
So what is the size of this update? Can someone answer?
no bigger than 10 gigs
just kill them lmfao™
on master its game breaking
8.5 gigs on ps5
8.2 GB on pc
~8GB
150tb on xbox
Thanks!
This
what 150gb
it is painful enough as it is, with the reduced saving opportunities
eeh, you can still hear the noise of them lifting it up before they throw it, so you still need to dodge whether it comes through a wall or not
did 7.1 make the game run any better?
yeah sure, but one mistake and you are dead, say goodbye to 30-60 minutes of progress
one point of it all is that i can go behind the corner and wait it out, heal and stuff
wdym i gotta jump and run, stopping me from healing or reloading
Hope whole of my mods don't break it 😂
true but it would be nice if the problem had been solved even if not mentioned in the notes
ARG shadow drop?
me personally i just play it safe, go back to hub before a big mission
did they fix enemies shooting me through walls? or detecting me through walls?
chat should i get streloks stalker tattoo
on forehead yes
true
Next one would be 0.7.1.1
i was thinking on the arm where he has it but that also a good idea
@robo you promissed us it would come today : o
Dead zones setting are still not working correctly, I have TMR sticks installed on dualsence, and have 0 drift, but setting drift zone to 0% still results in the character walking itself
if you're being noisy they will always detect you through walls, especially if they see you go behind the wall, the problem is more bullets passing through conceret atm
The road to 1.0
play on kbm if you have the option, it’s much better
1.7.2 when though?
if alot of people complain
and more game breaking bugs are introduced
Non existing for the moment. It can only be a thing if new anomalies show
when is the dlc?!? if it’s not within the next TWO WEEKS i’m going to review bomb the game!
there's always more bugs
1.7.1 wait is over, now we wait for 1.7.2
it seems to me, or that they can precisely shoot me through a tall field of grass, but i cant see them at all
now 1.7.2 for burers and poltergeists😂
fixed in 1.7 i believe
been 2 patches since they gave ai aimbot and poltergeists the ability to throw stuff through walls btw
no, i got it at the ps5 launch and this happens way too often
binoculars when?
its a ps5 patch or not
huh i never got it after 1.7
hopefully tomorrow
weird
3 weeks
ANyone know the answer?
Loading the game... lets see.
the patch is also for ps5?
I have my ps5 pro connected to the TV on the couch, kbm is not comfortable solution. And I love gyro aim on dualsence. Just noticed that they “fixed” dead zones on the 1.7.1, but it is still not working correctly. Even 5% dead zone results in the drift. I use 0% dead zone on the Steam Deck with the same controller, no issues in any game
great, patch is downloaded, let's go artifact hunting
like tall grass enemies just either dont shoot at me or shoot very inaccurately
Next year
slow down man the patch just released

Or 1.7.1.1
I am speed
idk, they can track my every movement and hit me with no issues in a tall grass field, at over 50 meters of distancr
Can’t I give my opinion? How some of you rly cry
Did the patch fix burer wallhack also? I didn't saw it in patch notes
Yeah. It does fix some problems affecting fair game progression
honestly respect for you playing on the couch. i hope they fix it soon
don’t think so
Still waiting for optimisation
I'm only interested in the game running better, its so stutery atm
imma test the patch tmrw morning im eepy asf
so fair
1.7 brings alot of optimization
Can confirm that artifacts that where stuck before the patch are now on working properly on ps5 pro. Just checked myself
I hardly get any stutters
Respawn
Hey you still have + 20, profit

imagine what the engine change will bring
1.7 made the game go from a ghosting blurry mess to a clear beautiful image on xbox series x
Not enough. Compare it to Arc Raiders performance and you will understand what is an optimisation
Nah, game is significantly smoother now.
so, many, bugs
they will remain underground forever
since .7 or .71
yeah game is smoother on my end, but def can use some more tinkering
You mean delete nanite and lumen? 
well arc raiders doesn’t have a 64km2 map with persistent ai now does it
AAA Story Driven Open World game with tons of content and a 60x60km map and a extraction multiplayer pvp shooter
7 and slightly .1
just tested, electric cables are back. game is fixed
Wonder if these powerlines are gonna effect Xbox performance lol
The items still through the wall
FAAAAAAAAK
i know the poisonous hole anomaly had one in the ground for me, so let's go check it out
Have you ever heard about streaming assets?
the issue is im getting 100+ fps, but the whole game feels stuttery, mouse movement feels choppy, the game is shimmering with the lumen crap, it looks shit, and feels shit, the 100fps means nothing
the game is designed to be played offline
you ever heard of critical thinking
uuh, why are my subtitles leaving a trail of white particles when running?
Considering that in my comparisons I only get an average of 5 fps more than in version 1.0, I'm still waiting for optimization.
New save

don’t play with me like this dude 😭
Nope. The reason they disappeared was render issue
I don’t even wanna hear all the bugs
Ain't no way bro
So the answer is no, you have no clue what you are talking about
check FSR/DLSS frame gen
from what I remember the lighting was manually set there and it worked strangely for months, in Stalker there is a nanite and lumen, although it looks better but the computer eats up resources like an Abrams gasoline
Where? You mean poltergeist attacks?
im using FSR QUality
frame gen adds a ton of input lag
no, like unironically, when there's subtitles on my screen and i move fast there's little particles/graphical glitches above and below them
Ghosting, UE5 problem
they should implement hardware raytracing to the game, better quality and performance compared to lumen
Nooo, don't tell me that! I have soo many hours!
why don’t you just apply at gsc and fix the game then mr game dev
what do you play on
i believe its an engine problem
pc
The electric lines are also back in game on ps5
Why don’t you tell me what to do?
HW RT would just be HW lumen tho
since its UE 5 
like the implementation of upscaling and allat
Yup they are stuck now. You'll need to either try to get them out or make a new save
There are a lot of ideas for better things, let's see what happens
Bro, the Stalker community is starting to look more and more like the Call of Duty community 😭
they did just tell you what to do though
This CHAT CIRCLE
Cry for new patch delays -> patch releases -> Cry about performance -> Cry for new patch delays -> patch releases -> Cry about performance -> etc
i mean would still be better than software
it's glorious
Wut
Is that the chats fault tho?
if it was more UE games would have this
i didnt ever see that issue, not even in this game tbh
Got my new laptop with a 275HX + 5090L and replaying Stalker 2 with 90-100 fps now feels so much better. Previously with a 5900HX + 3080L was a laggy mess.
Are you talking about loot boxes and Nicki Minaj skins?
Don’t don’t or don’t not tell then 🤣
good stuff dude love that for you
1/3 OF U DONT EVEN PLAY A GAME, JUST CRY HERE IN CHAT
yeah, it would be, just wanted to be pedantic sry 
what you saying 😭😭😭😭 i’m crine
That is why this chat is the best, you can litarally reuse all the arguments and conversations every patch cycle
most incomprehensible english ive ever read
More like a group of bootlickers easy to bait
climbing ladders produce alot of ghosting for me
Cause it’s not my native language, mock me more
i hope the battlepass comes next patch. i’ve been waiting all year
yeah english isnt my native language either but i still got a C1 in it?
The worst is yet to come, when the DLC comes out. New bugs new fix xd
you’re doing quite good for it being your second language tbf
they promised us multiplayer shortly after launch
you speak english because it's the only language you know, i speak english cause it's the only language you know 
did they even say what type of multiplayer
It's my party and I'll cry if I want to cry if I want to, cry if I want to.
You would cry too if it happened to you
XD
The only place that got some performance issues is redforest
now that could be a lumen or TAA/U issue
diferent issue from what i was responding to tho
damn 😭
they did rebuke the coop multiplayer claims, prolly capture the artifact and tdm
I'm devastated.... second time i let myself to be killed from items through the wall.
I don't know if I wanna explore more the game, feels like bug hunting not artifacts hunting....
now Capture the Artifact sounds good
Yep, confirmed, they still throw stuff through walls. Waiting for next patch...
Sounds like the game is still not finished
coop multiplayer is perfect for games like stalker
they should do like a 100 person server where it’s like tarkov kind of with safe zones and you like get gear and sell it or something 🤷♂️
imagine they added an artifact called "Sidorovich's KFC"
idk why they didnt atleast think about it
Just turn off frame gen
Now I'm just waiting on engine rebuild to jump back in
cool but also tarkov slop upon tarkov slop
if it were finished
when they said multiplayer i though of coop too
like scar's Toasted Bread
IT IS CONFIRMED POLTERGEISTS CAN STILL THROW THROUGH WALLS
my vision would only be kind of similar but you’re low-key right
well color me surprised, the artifact was actually above ground
1.7.2 when
jammer, relax
UE with enabled Nanite and Lumen was a mistake. That’s my take. That’s all.
The people wanna know
I dont get why they even want to do shooter multiplayer and not if anything coop multiplayer
nanite is actually good for LODs and such, but main issue with stalker 2 is that they ONLY use lumen for both outdoors and indoors lighting... which is crazy
imaging exploring the zone with your friend. that would’ve peak
great now there will be people complaining that 1.7.2 isn't out
They should make a multiplayer where you can plant and harvest crops and raise domesticated fleshes, like a small farm and ranch and you can trade artifacts for seeds and then you can do quest for community center where you unlock little controllers that help you work on your farm
baked lighting could def work indoors and would also work outdoors
wait, a new technology will come out that will drop the fps even more and then on the 5090 you will have 60 fps with frame generation
Waiting for Engine update -> Cries why they updated engine -> Chat "experts" explains why XRAY is 100x better than UE5 -> Waiting for Engine update -> etc
the lighting and reflection in stalker 2 is shit
this is actually fire
thats like the only major problem with graphics
I have 1080
pretty sure you cant mix and match baked with lumen
The problem is that the game is not fixed, like go play master diff and meet 2-3 protas in the building, good luck
no wonder your game looks bad if you’ve got a 1080
It's actually bad. Nanite is worse than normal LOD
Stalker 2 Extraction BR! Last guy standing takes everyones loot
dont know much about unreal tho, just shooting shit
make sure there’s a battlepass with a strelok skin and a wishgranter weapon camo
Almost all games run fine, except Stalker though
What if we already have multiplayer, but it has always been multiple objects flying through walls to kill the player. Huge if true 
also this game only uses nanite on buildings and such
foliage and everything else is using old fashioned LOD'S
(those LOD's look sh't BTW)
you need to unlock battlepass with battlepass
1080 is like the bottom of the barrel card. i’m surprised your computer hasn’t exploded
Guys who didn’t tell them about the poltergeists… we had three weeks to tell them…
The real multiplayer is invading other people's games as poltergeist and killing them with stuff through the walls
how many stalker bucks does the battlepass cost?
Everyone was yapping about it....
You complain about people complaining 😭
hey don't diss the 1080 like that (but i have to agree, a 1080 in nearly 2026 is crazy)
Oh noooo. This could be a perfect patch.
Oh, sorry, I’ll immediately go and buy a modern card 🤣
What have we become as humanity 😭
ok then i will complain about people complaining about people complaining
Maybe it’s just part of poltergeists abilities now…
the 1080 is like a vietnam veteran, still kicking, capable in its prime but ultimately you gotta let it rest
Don't act deep 😭
i'll complain 5.5 isnt out yet
that i agree
I hate 2.0, it's a disgusting number.
I'm kinda tired of it, specially when you support devs with several game copies, and art book.
can someone tell grok to just make gamma 2 already
i'll complain about you complaining about my complaining 
complain to him
Feels like a big thank you to all the people who bought it recently also 🤷♂️
“At least I’m not a bootlicker.”
not enough mods for grok to steal sadly
They should make a StalkerGO! Mobile game where you walk around and catch mutants with artifacts and you can visit anomaly fields and spin them to get more artifacts to catch more mutants
Who’s walking though
You play as Strider obviously it's in the name
are we throwing shade at THE grok
Don't we already kinda have it. I seen a craft mod and some others that look like gamma
Ahem… cough cough… three weeks…. Ahem 😬
yes WE are
And sued by Nintendo
i know WE (and i mean all of us) would NEVER throw shade at THE grok
oh boy you have never seen how gamma-phobic some of the people here is

been playing alot of stalker gamma recently.. but i miss stalker 2 so much, i wanna wait till the new dlcs and stuff come out
People just hateful
gamma-phobia isn't a real thing, it's just what slop-fanboys call good taste
gamma has objectively done so much for the community in the time before stalker 2
gamma-phobic has gotta be one of the most terminally online things I've ever seen being said.
and i think grok is THE GOAT
Already stalker you’ll win me over if you start rolling out the mods…
and all the mod authors
Who also thinks that unique anomalous areas are underutilized in S2?
and none of it was positive 
So the artifacts are fixed, but burers owerspawning is not?
i don’t think stalker would’ve survived without the mods
pripyat is underwhelmingly underutilized
Ofc
i mean yeah it helped with the game's reach but it did make people have a different expectation for stalker 2
1 iq lukewarm take
i think stalker 2 could’ve taken a bit more from gamma. especially the crafting system
yess the goat at uncrediting mod authors!!
@pseudo gate gotta get m701 super and blast those midget fools with one shot headshot. Their fingers sell like crazy.
hell no the crafting in anomaly is HORRENDOUS
the bait is so bad...
Oh yeah I forgot about the mutant spawns aha. Wonder if that’s tripled instead
i like the crafting but to each their own
I do that with mosin, 4 shots that's it
Just annoying to traverse the garbage that's it
one thing i love about stalker games since clear sky is artifact hunting.. and gamma somehow made it unfun, but it is more involved i guess
No robo has one opinion and only that no one else’s matter it’s just a thing
oh i see
“the bait is so bad” 💀
how come gamma boys always come with the most hilarious takes, but then you find out they were actually serious
so sad
i bet ur cute irl
I get that vibe
I wonder why can't gamma players just play gamma instead of wanting S2 to become gamma2
cute as a snork with a fork
They should make stalker multiplayer where you spend all day on discord complaining about everything in the game instead of doing literally anything else and call it The Crying Zone
i never said i like gamma more, because i think stalker 2 is better it just could’ve taken inspiration from the crafting system in gamma
Because they have negative iq

Bread
like why the hell do i gotta collect 5 chimera hearts, 5 burer fingers, 5 diet cokes and one large fry + 2 fully charged artifacts to make one tier 4 artifact, i get that its supposed to be the best artifact in the world but holy grind that is not fun.. and also you need to find the recipe book from a sin or monolith soldier, but that is easy i found

Half the people come to bait in this chat because people cry a lot
"bread"
give this man a true
🍞
Does stalker really needs crafting slop?
Mutant hides and kevlar is always the better option in gamma artifacts are literally garbage made for autistic man babies
yall hear me out
i think gsc current vision is to improve on the original trilogy's mechanic, not adding onto it
i think you should be able to make weapon cleaning kits and armour repair kits at the very least. having crafting or cooking also incentivises exploration and keeps the game interesting
Hello,
hell naw just chug 10 cans of unspecified meat
why are they telling the truth?
there's unironically a reason why nobody eats anything that lives or grows in the zone
Want to join the game but overall i tried many mods but its really bad how NPC react and shoot with shotguns like a sniper, is there a way to remove this problem with a mod?

Well, if you are not shitting on gamma players or complaining about everything even remotely connected to Stalker 2 what are you even doing here?
that problem has been fixed since patch 1.7.
When was the last time you played?
“radiation hurts my tummy ☹️🥺”
The original trilogy didn't need it but in stalker 2 and how fast your weapons break having repair kits is almost a necessity, because traveling in the game is horrible. Either they need to put local guides who can travel you to a base and back for repairs or add repairs kits or make durability better
"I want S2 to be like Gamma, that's what I was told on the Gamma Discord channel."
oh what’s this glowing rock? let me put it in my pocket right now
no not really, just played some days ago with 1.7.1 and they saw me so far away and instant shot me 😄
I don't mind weapon maintenance kits, but on master I'm often doing shorter runs anyways
in call of pripyat, guns tend to break with use and if a grenade explodes near you, say goodbye to 10% of the durability
strange those shotgunners couldnt even hit me 10 yards away
It'll eat your tummy also

how about putting it in your stomach
glowing anomalous shit
shadow of chornobyl had that fun thing with artifacts that allowed you to repair your equipment, especially since there were no mechanics in that game
There is simply no excuse that your gun goes from 100 to 50 in about 2-3 skirmishes
exactly
Yeah, I agree
people in the zone just dont know how to clean guns ig
It breaks immersion more than anything
typical that a gamma fanboy wouldn't understand the difference between keeping a rock at your belt and eating irridiated meat 
never experienced that outside of master
me when the bait is bad
In the gunfight you're not thinking about survival but "oh damn I got shot 2 times that's -5k coupons"
bait ain't bad if you take it...
touché
Like the health is the cheapest thing to restore
my USP literally starts jamming after 2 mags in master
my second "problem" is : the world is very empty, most the time i am just walking from A to B, what do you guys do in this case to enjoy the game?
i feel like everyone would know how to do that but whatever
with guns and armor breaking so fast in stalker 2, i guess the devs wanted to make players look for other equipment, rather than fix them... but alas the upgrade system would be totally pointless because of it
artifact hunting, killing random bandits, going on side quests, getting bent over and rimmed by mutants, etc.
It was like that in SoC but SoC wasn't huge open world game
breathe in the atmosphere
If they wanted you to have 20 guns to switch they wouldn't have limited the carry limit so much or made unique weapons that barely do anything special
It was semi-linear at best
They found the slav who stole all the copper wires?
Reason: Bad word usage
I cant say slav?
is your name based nano
Apparently you can
They simply fuked up the balancing of durability and degrading
Oh well, another 2 weeks till 1.7.2 that will fix overspawning
Wales and Greece gotta have the coolest flags oat
albania is up there
Midbania
bruh cool eagle on a red flag is tuff
Albania's flag overrated
indian flag is a glorified peter griffin meme
Indians flag has the ugliest colours ever
It's one thing if you're out in the world exploring you can slowly run back to a base for repairs but this game has missions where you're constantly in a firefight with no escape and I played on the hardest difficulty before master and often went red with my weapons
powerlines be looking thick though: #📸┃screens_and_videos message
It's just badly designed/tested
just abandon the missions lol
so we are joking
like youre about to go somewhere else?
trek 5km to the nearest hub
It's the main story you low IQ mongrel
Take a chill pill
you can just abandon missions like that though
he can't help it he's a gamma fanboy
except maybe like SIRCAA or Point of No Return
in swamps for example you can find atleast 3 new weapons, just abandon your old upgraded guns
What's wrong with gamma
Am I dreaming or did stalker 2 get an update
apparently no one here likes gamma
youre in a coma
Does new update fix artifacts spawning under ground?
youre about to wake up in exactly 5 minutes
I like gamma
same dude, same
enjoy 2030
yes
its in the patchnote
I haven't played it because unfortunately I'm on console until I have enough money for a PC
But it looks alright for a mod
i play on the missus pc
It's no magnum opus
it’s no fortnite but it’s aight
it’s no concord but it’s aight
well about that
Anyway it's time to pray to the Monolith
what if instead of stalker 2 it was stallker 2 and you just stall sircaa by doijg dumb shit
Opening the map still causes a slight FPS drop, no where as near as 1.7
Did they fix the artifacting/flickering with DLSS Enabled for 5000 series cards in this patch or is that still a thing
oh, it's that guy
They actually didn't fix anything this Patch it's an out of season April fools joke the 8 gigs download is just stalker memes and fart sound effects for a future update
you’re not supposed to tell them that
Dam....
"Answer:
bureres and poltergeists aren't fixed yet"
No one can tell me what to do! I'm a real Rebel, rules are meant to be broken
this is a shame but never mind what we have to do
so tuff 😎
tougher than any gamma player 
oook rebel assault
So wait the new update fixed some anomalies that weren't spawning artifacts even though you could see them with the scanner?
i dont get why people keep saying like "i'll wait for the game to be fixed one year after launch!!!!!" like damn just play the game if you really want to or at least keep it to yourself
Because that happened to me like in 5 anomalies or so
it was spawning but it was underground
Yes exactly
So that's fixed yeah?
yeah its fixed
tougher than a tough guy
all artifact position should be reset
Nice i wanted to get all of them but i couldn't do some heh
i havent tested it myself but from whst i can tell yeah
Wtf did they fix anything? The artifacts are still underground bro im starting to get pretty annoyed by this shit dont tell me i have to start a new save file
is your save file directly next to an anomaly orrr
Try validating files
cuz if thats the case then it wont be reset
Some huge ass update
walk awayfrom it a big while, then go back
Like for example yesterday i did Weird Water artifact, once it got bugged underground (i could only see the bottle cap lmao but couldn't pick it up). I loaded the save 10 mins prior, went again, then it spawned correctly
Wow, setting the bar really low I see
Taking forever to download
The game? 
its only ~8GB wdym
Maybe your Internet is just hogwash
100mbps
thats really shit
I wasnt even close to the artifact i marked all stuck artifacts and when i read they patched i took a guide from pripyat to rookie village and guess what the death cave artifact is still stuck at the exact same position
Ehh i have 500 i don't mind
How many hours 
500 is like pretty fine
Yeah good for me
300 is like the lowest possible
No its not
1Gbps is ideal
damn how much that cost
You must be wanting to download trumps ass
Well a lot of the world isn't ideal.
I wanna get it but at the same time i don't really download all that much. So i am asking myself, is it really worth it?
I get 140 down on average
i hotspot with my phone and get around 200-300
like 20 bucks a month lol
This patch is so ass bruh what are they doing
DAMN
idk man other people are playing fine idk whats your problem
working on da engin updat
this has been remedied for the most part. PDA doesnt use FSR but instead of a crippling 30fps its now at the fps the game would be running at if it wasnt using fsr. (About 70ish fps for me at the time of writing)
Just checked..300mbps
Wires are back :/ wouldn’t they be stripped for copper by now
thats like 12 MB/s no wonder
Give me all your copper
My problem is the exact same since before the patch. Artifacts are 50% chance spawning underground and staying there
Ofc
energy company of ukraine came and fixed it real quick
🥀
OFC
I need to sell it to buy a guass rifle
then idk what is your problem other peoples artifact are spawning above ground
and this is a detail😆
I've sold all the exos in the game except the freedom one
real men go and scavenge for that gauss
buy le car
Ah yes the problem the devs themselves confirmed they know about is a "me" problem bro go f urself
Real men don't get their asses kicked by a bunch of ruffians in tracksuits then disband their entire faction
respectfully, no
are you just resorting to personally insulting me because you're not taking my or other people's advices and your head is so dense that it rejects all matters including your mother's kiss from when you were born or what?
Hey bro I'm selling a gaus rifle real cheap in dark valley at the pig farm only 800koupons come quick before it's gone 😉
Nice try
Seems like i hit a nerve lmao
tbf you insulted me first
Before the update I went on an artifact run across the zone. 3 to 4 anomalies had artifact's stuck in the ground just as I entered into em and it was really crippling n painful. iv even occasionally had artifact's spawn normally, then proceed to clip into the ground. I will try out an artifact run in 1.7.1 to see if this issue persists for me. Hope those artifact's respawn and dont get stuck in the ground for u in the future
Why arent yiu guys playing instead yapping
Yes bc u act like a known bug is some kind of "only you" problem and youre literally shilling for devs that cant fix their freaking game 1year after launch
for me at least two artifacts which were previously below ground are back up
They should add Uber in the game with next update, you can open your pda and order some food or a ride would be really cool
Take a look at this guy thinking that anyone here plays the game 
So no fix for npc wallhacking?
i can't download the patch because my wifi is down for like a week by now </3
Wrong guess?
no, working on it
If your wifes down for a week you should see a doctor
Reason: Bad word usage
welp there goes another month waiting 😄
Seems like some artifacts (those with fixed spawns) are still stuck underground
I'm waiting for farcry 3 to download on my PDA
the most ukrainian looking ukrainian i've ever seen
true
Whens fc7 coming?
you cant say the f word?
Faust
nah, you can say shit though
rip
I can say it
Actually stelok is peak Ukraine goopnik physiology with his widow peak hairline
2077
Feminist
Female
i have that strelok hairline

did they fix collision with the glass anomolies?
It's so over for you bro
i honestly thought you were talking about the other f word for a moment lmfao
Hitbox is same
yk, the one we (gays) can reclaim?
now hold up just because we play stalker doesn't mean we're gay 
Reason: Bad word usage
Wait, it doesnt?
kill the bot.
you have high hopes i see
Your monolith badge implies otherwise
One comment above this
nah nah i was talking about me and the other guy
Speak for yourself
yea but did they fix player collision with em cuz on 1.7 release you couldnt go thru em.
Okay wardbootlicker
pffttt- ohhh, nooo, I mean the one I use pretty much every day not the one that I own and have the right to use xP
You're just upset you don't have a giant glowing rock that speaks to you
Where can i report bugs?
other guy or other gay?
Ward is the best faction, no amount of crying will change it
trrruuueeeeeeeeee, the other gay is so real
how about both
freedom fresh bread
Sent an email to zelensky
I didn't say anything about the faction I just said you're a boot licker
Everyone knows spark is the best and only wants the best for the zone
I like me the shiny glowy rock but freedom did give me some free bread...
Freedom freaks have sex with mutants so don't even start talking shit freedom boi
false
Truth nuke
Why you trolling? 🤦🏻♂️
grok projecting his own sexual desires again smh
duty propaganda
Freedom is just a bunch of stoners
Freedom are sellouts 🙏
yk that line can be said by all stalkers
Duty would've bummed freedom if the ward didn't save them
in soc
Freedom propaganda
This has been confirmed in CS cut content don't even try to deny it bloodsucker lover
it was written in the pibles 3000 years ago
duty propaganda
Fits like a glove
Truth*
Duty fell apart
duty fell off hard
l take
So did the monomid
hell nah monolith literally did a resurrection
you tested because if burer they pass through with objects
Duty, Freedom…all will be cut down in the name of the monolith
Skif hard carried it
Time to find new game to play, and come back next year?
implying that they even were that good at their own job
Duty do be lacking doe
just play stalker if you want to
Nerfed by devs for being too strong
honestly i dont mind the bugs that much they dont affect gameplay too much
Had a bug where a zombie wouldn't die
Those are just anomalies
All of the factions fell off hard except for ward and Sircca
Freedom=Degenerate capitalist mutant enjoyers
Bandits=lol lmao even
Loners=Care bear Bandits
Mercs=Pushed out
Duty=Depressed because of the treaty
Clear Sky=RIP BOZO PACKWATCH 💯
Monolith=literally non existent until skif
I really wish to but my frustration that each update we get new bugs is just.... ah.
Is there any way to force a fixed location artifact to respawn?
Capitalism mid, elitism on top
if youre willing to mod then install UETools, noclip to get the artifsct and let it naturally respawn
Many brothers and sisters are still fighting in Pripyat before Sirrca, and hostile monolith can spawn in red forest/yannov
Cant im playing on ps5
I did an ending at launch and the game was still playable (Though not very good) when S2 released. Id say its about clear sky unmodded level of buggyness from my experience.
Bandits are just grenade spammers who shout slurs and obscenities
Me fr fr
Bandits fell off when they lost bandit radio
So basically the average mw2 "try hard"
facts
freedom fell off when they lost uncle yar
Those aren't monoliths, they literally have no connection to ccon/wish granter before Skif goes to wild territory
they need to bring back the radios from clear sky, i miss the freedom radio aswell
Skif is the only reason monolithians are relevant in stalker 2
freedom radio is also a banger
"I no have microscope...!"
Is Skif just some guy who lost his apartment?
yes
He was chosen by ccon to lose his apartment
A random guy who lost his apartment who revived the monolith
monolith didnt survive for long tho either way, depending on what ending you took
I've been sliming them before I even got to sircaa
Honestly. The biggest bit of fridge brilliance in the game was SIRCAA and the Ward.
They got the experience of working for and against oligarchy (and the whole banality of evil) right - hell yes the Ward is nicer to work for and all good on the surface; that's almost always the case with IRL evil.
Wait the ward is considered evil??
By terrorists
ward is evil, they literally 1984 the world in their ending
They're comfortable being tools for people who want to control the world
Their ultimate goal is literal mind control and world domination.
They're the guys behind the group that became C Consciousness - the goal was always domination over humanity as a whole.
Perfect world*
basically argatha is evil but korshunov and dalin is not, however they are just pawns for argatha
Are there any other good ending?
Is there any "good" faction in this game?
skif
Spark
Reason: Bad word usage
no except maybe the corps
Can you kill the evil ward woman who smokes?
The corps are good, they've never wronged anyone
sadly no
Which is what makes their depiction brilliant.
They're an actual represtation of what it feels like working with some of the most evil people and organizations..
Monolith
Why is he lying gif
I helped the ward until i sided with strelok
Malachite, I suppose.
Isnt the monolith the same as the ward tho
Is streloks ending the good ending?
Ish. More like their very rabid zombie guard dog.
not really they are just brainwashed stalker turned soldier
up to you to decide tbh
Does it ruin the world?
But like the monolith is just a program of mind control used by the ward isnt it?
nah, strelok's ending doesn't ruin the world
Usually - the good, bad, best, worst endings are up to how you view the experience as you progress & experieince the interactions.
no, it's the c-consciousness, not the ward
no the monolith is used by original c conciousness
And the ward isnt?
no the ward is SIRCAA
If you ever work for Nestle (or HDFC, or even Chiquita) or their execs (for example), you'll be on the gravy train and be treated nice.
They're all nice, congenial, and absolutely a-ok with committing actual atrocities or even mass murder.
So the ward is basically backed by sircaa who is trying to do the same as the c con before?
kindaz yeah
No
Same backers. Same objective.
They all but spell it out for you with Agatha
pretty much, it's all the Group in the end pulling the strings
Is there an ending where i can use and outsmart everyone?
What dealing with oligarchs feels like IRL.
A very Ukrainian game, I suppose.
skifs but you end up making anomalies across the entire world
Can you elaborate pls
that's entirely dependent on how you perceive the ending tbh
Eh. Sometimes you gotta burn a few forests to steal fire from the gods.
I want an ending where i survive and am happy
Sure, people have very bad media literacy and make fanfiction in their head to support their claims
if you think making sure ward and the group can never get their greedy little hands on the zone is outsmarting them, then strelok is a good ending
i say that is a good thing if we can find the use for the energies created by artifacts
Ward ending
stop trying to mislead the rookie you ward glazer
if you want that then the ward ending but the entire world gets 1984'd
No like can u pls tell me why ward and c con arent the same i find it super interesting
Ward isn't a hivemind and you optionally join it
Ward is for people who's favorite position is missionary
Can I still go for the ward ending even if i fled korshunov
c conciousness are the people who created the zone back in 2006
sircaa was created after with the goal of "using the zone's energy for the greater good" but deep inside they just wanna control the world
no
Can i kill him atleast?
Because they just aren't, c con is collective AI if you will made up from old scientists. The Ward is a PMC hired by Siirca who are the "evolution" of the ecologicst
yes, you get to kill him if you escaped from him
the c-consciousness is a combined consciousness of volunteer scientists, they were part of the group, the group split up, some part became clear sky, the other part continued as the Ministry of Defense and Secret Technologies, which eventually created sircaa and the ward
"Fixed crashes." - woo!
Ok thanks yall i think i get it. Is there an ending where i join no one and done what i want?
колеги в мене проблема зі сталкером
nah, spark is the evolution of ecologists, ward is basically duty 2.0
в мене гра артифачить
yes, you essentially give the zone freedom
#💬┃ua_offtop
екран трясе
wrong channel
I suppose Kymanov is technically the best ending for the world.
Or Strelok, based on how you view tech and progress.
And how do i do that? Is it still possible if i sided with any faction before?
Did yall mfers fixed that bug where controllers could launch objects thru walls?
Spark is...something.
And Ward is straight evil.
No it literally says so in the ending of CoP stelok passes on zone info to the government and they created Siirca and stelok became head advisor
there are many inflection points in the story where you can change wagons, they are obvious
it is possible if you betray scar, korshunov and strelok
i don't remember the exact details, you can look it up though
nah
Only your choices in the third act are final
Spark isnt the evolution of the ecologists, Spark was featured in COP as a squad of STALKERS taht were helping scientists, theh are still stalkers
Ecologists arent Stalkers
Thought they said they'd fix it no?
They will. But for now they fixed other things first
God i really like the game so much but the artifact underground bug is dampening my fun immensely
i get it but like considering the roles spark would probably be closest to ecolog in the original game
It's like you people don't even play the stupid games how are you so bad at understanding a story
true, but Spark was re-created essentially by the group
says in 1.7.1 they fixed it
Good news about the patch today
I have but 2 simple request for Stalker 2.
One can you please reduce the zoom in conversations, I don't need npcs to breath the smell of vodka and sausage on me.
Two please increase the distance between you and the npc that you could start conversation about 2 meters from it. Is much as I like them I like my personal space.
Thank you.
And then along came Agatha and the "group".
Welcome to oligarchy and corruption
It isnt tho jus tested it. The death cave artifact and some other fixed spawns are still underground
they are just, a squad that specialized with working with the ecologists, you could compare them to a runner that specializes in working with a certain trader
Artifacts already underground are still screwed
no? At least in S2 ||they are killed by the group and that is what lets Scar infiltrate it do with it what he wants||
Different people, different intepretation of the story, stop trying to insult people who have a different view than you
Wow so i have to start a new run to get them all? Are you serious
They got screwed too.
Damn is the backstory depressing when you learn about it.
it doesnt make artifacts that are already underground reset, only those that are spawning, new ones
they are killed by ward, then recreated by scar under instructions of the group
Bruh why would they do this? Why cant they make the artifats respawn after some days ingame if not picked up
The one ending I really want is one where I can kill the group - all of them.
||I dont think you can say Scar is working for The Group orders when he is pretty pontedly working against them in how he sets up the new Spark||
i mean yeah but their involvement in working with malachite could be considered research
It's not about interpretation or anything you just straight up talked out of your ass about something that has been very clearly explained in the games. Spark, Ecologicst and Siirca nothing was left for interpretation it's just you who can't understand it
if you are one of those people that tries to slip everything under work expenses in your taxes, sure
I was talking about the roles of the factions not the lore.
These are his instructions from the ministry of defense and secret technologies that you find on the PDA on his body:
(Reframe SCR#01M) Instructions:
* Locate an active Alpha Artifact or recruit a person to bring it to SIRCAA and keep them under control.
* An Alpha Artifact is needed in X11 to restore the functionality of the X-Network.
* Use Orbita Station to recruit scientists.
* Assemble a working Visiograph at STC Malachite (X17) using modules found in the Zone.
* Activate the Visiograph.
* Await further instructions.
That is essentially the groups goal
Scar isn't working for the group he is working for c-con which are not the same anymore and have different goals
like how they feels when compared to the factions in the original game
The things he does after he does this, are what really show he doesnt work for The Group tho, everybody wants Skif to advance the story by taking the artifact to SIIRCA
Hmm, I suppose he does disobey them to put himself in the C-cnsciousness seat
i think in the end he's just an utterly delusional person, buying into the nonsense he has been shown
Yo is burers sniping you through walls fixed
the consequences of stuffing 2 minds in 1 body
nah
2 mins after installing 1.7.1 burer took my unique shotgun below the ground. GG
RIP Margach D12. Nice knowing you
well, you see, a shotgun is not an artifact and is therefor still eligeble to be eaten by the ground 
Zone judged him: #📸┃screens_and_videos message
but also this is the 4th Burer in the area what is this. Invasion
Btw who is that stalker that saved Strelok at the very beginning of Shadow of Chernobyl. It wasn't Hunter, was he?
Hotfix on a Hotfix next year…
5th Burer in the area nice
I hope it’s just a one instance 
I contributed to this patch
there is only one shotgun in the game indeed and you need ultimate edition for it... I paid premium for a Burer to take it away
Saiga?
And everything flying through walls, objects, fences 
unique saiga yes
Sorry for your loss, any chance revert some previous save file?
I can just reload but imagine playing master difficulty and your last save was like 2h ago
I see, lucky you!
I'd be very mad... but now I'm just laughing.
such is the way of the zone
A stalker named Red or aka Saviour.
IIRC that’s the only time you see him is in that cutscene.
Is the screen having an aneurism fixed in this update
Reason: Bad word usage
You are not allowed to tag everyone. Also why would you do that for just that.
So 1.7.2 when ?
Rumored to be in the first dlc, stalkers in newbie village talk about how he's out for a run but will be back soon
I had an issue where I had a snork screaming in my ear miles away, even though I had moved away from that area. But that was on release day.
Yes
Can't help you with this, I have no clue
Neither do I have the issue anymore
Maybe ask in #❔┃seeking-for-advice instead
Like all the recurring characters in Stalker 2 are done greatly. Strelok is certified badass but a bit paranoid (not surprised), Scar is crazy but friendly and Degtaryev is just plain unit. Great voice actors for all in eng too.
Scar and Stelok are actually really horrible in 2, understandable for scar but they really did stelok dirty with his personality change
So those who tested 1.7.1 does it worth it ?
It does worth it
How do i skip time to day from night guys?
Sleep
Im liking it
Where
Bed
Wheres it
in a house
Dont know where you are in game, if in the begininging then Zalyssia is the first place if I`m not mistaken, dont remember if there are beds in Post Office
PS5 dual sense controller on PC still bugged 
wait for 1.7.2
Honestly i found less bugs in the first version of the game, or at least less breaking bugs. But maybe it's my feeling
Says “cant sleep status ailment”
Maybe your Skif hasn't eaten in a while
Bleeding and having high amounts of radiation can also prevent you from sleeping
Yes almost
When crouching, is ther a way to disable that vignette?
Am a YouTube content creator where can I post my videos that are related to stalker ?
how much it takes to fix artifacts droppin underground and bringin back power cables? like 2 weeks... srsly, is one person only working on those patches u celebreting so much? xD
You need a content creators role to post your own youtube videos
The one intern is doing his best ok
Yes, broski. they could just clicked 1 button "Fix Artifacts" and 1 checkbox "Add back cables"... imagine 2 buttons took 2 weeks... insane
Bruh even after the update game crashes when tryna use any mods
yea, it should take month xDDDD
Dude. Its not gsc's fault that the bandits in the zone are stealing all the copper wires
What cables were removed then re-added? Is it the cables attached to the blimp above Zalyssia?
i cant believe, its just 2 buttons. it takes like 10s to do it... damn and it took them 2 weeks XDDDDD imagine? XDD
fix 2 things, mess up 20, just a regular GSC fixing progress xDDD
Electricity masts
Power cables
Ah ok. Ty.
copium overload
hell nahh its true XDDD
1.7.2 next year
They were also busy with other fixes. Not just artifacts and the power lines
thats real
BRO its JUST 2 BUTTONS XD u dont get it, it takes like 1min to fix everything
Shame they didn’t get the poltergeists and Burers sorted out, makes fighting then a lot more.. interesting with their new ability to fire shit through walls and seech.
Then apply to gsc and show them how its done. If its fixed as quickly as you say it is, it will only benefit the game. Just fix stuff. Takes only 2 mins. Ez.
yessss, its like 1 min xDD
I bet you will roll out a dlc every other week. Just add stuff. Ez.
Yes!
Where is list of the new current bugs XDDD
I seen Brururuer almost taken someones ultimate edition gun underground
5 min with ChatGPT, am i hired?
Damb, that bug still there
pffff every 2 days new DLC xDD
Go for it. Use AI to fix the game. Code written in nano seconds.
I’m assuming so, haven’t tried the new patch yet until a bit later tonight but I seen no mention of a fix to them and I think I seen in GSC answers channel that will probably be in the next patch.
in game like stalker 2? no fkin problem, easy af
Gsc just lazy and stoopid.
hey guys, i finally got my new PC
Chat should i apply for gsc
(i can make python type hello world)
yes, thats true
@dreamy dagger Where are you!? Missing all the party of the hotfix on a hotix xDDD
hottits
Someone from the ccon server mentioned the bug is still there, so I am assuming it isn't fixed yet.
Spec list. Show us. Show us now.
cmon, dont lose hope, they promised us Engine Update and New Missions, still in this year, GSC never breaks their word, right?
FLex to the end
Engine update was not a this year promise
like they didnt 20 times when changing release date just to release garbage junk xD
Must be a finicky fix if they couldn’t solve it within this patch tbh. Weird how things can end up like this while fixing other things it breaks something else lol.

yes it was
I just hope the artifacts going under the ground is actually fixed, because I planned on making this new playthrough trying to collect all of them.
Stalker 2 2022
r5 5600
nvidia rtx 5060
32 gb ddr4
1 tb ssd pcie 4.0
650w 80+ bronze
Asus A520-M
engine update its just like button "update to 5.7", devs dont need anything to do.. just wait 5min for update xD
Yeah it was.
They said “Q4 2025”
Not bad. Not bad.
Then it got moved.
Just like the mods for Witcher 3.
Holy ragebait
Hewwo A Lvl 5 Mewtwo
Reason: Bad word usage
my friend graphic designer fixed those problems in 5 min with new engine, thats correct
Burer takes guns underground now, kill him with a knife
Yeah same dude, I’m just about to leave the Lesser Zone on my master 0 death run and I’ve only managed to get about 4-5 Artis due to them being stuck.
ok wolf
Make aure the ram is not running at stock speed and has xmp enabled for free ef pee es.
GSC indeed lazy af, they dont really care now after ps5 release
im done with this
That's harash to say, all 300+ devs cannot be lazy
With what. Trolling?
Zelensky told them not to fix burers because it's hilarious how people complain about it, he's such a troll
someone must work little
me, trolling?? never 
They’ve literally just dropped a patch today, I think if they didn’t care anymore we wouldn’t be getting patches and updates. It’s a shame not everything could be fixed within 1 patch but that’s wishful thinking.
engine update is indeed 5 min work, bringing back cables and artfifacts from ground is indeed 5 min, but how could u know that if u spend whole life in the zone lol
i would not even say its a ragebait or trolling. its too obvious
Just an average day on Stalker official discord, after every update.
Everyone sure is stupid except me
yes, connect cables to generators and engine will update itself
Stoopid
U are yes I'm smart
go learn something from internet, no, u choosed to be half intelligent and troll lmao
Plebs calm down why the diversity?
did you learned anything from internet?
dude thinking engine update and bringing something back from previous patch is month of work with whole squad xDDDDD
you're absolutely right and we'll get some popcorn and read a thousand things
oh sorry, engine update takes them even few months xDDDDD
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Why don't you guys just play Gamma instead
Gamma def 10 times better than current stalker 2, but how much can guy play one game? if i paid for stalker 2 that is in 0.7.1 state xDDDD
honse
Honse
looks like all of u pay money for anal sex 😄
bro I’m ace
Is this guy ok
but u re being smashed
I get my anal Sex for free thank you very much
my mom said sex is bad
I was told it ain’t gay if I’m the giver and not the taker.
Don't ask you mom how you was made 
she don’t talk to me
Its okey to be the little spoon
i heard opposite 
I heard it ain’t gay if you say “no homo”
Remember. What happens in prison, stays in prison.
I wouldn't talk to a Corps member either
what? i paid full price for game that isnt still finished in over one year? OH WELL ILL JUST WAIT ANOTHER YEAR, after all they re doing great job, fantastic job
This chat on shrooms or something today
What happens at Skadovs stays at Skadovsk
why we should even complain? on what? EVERYTHING IS FIIIINEEEEE
Game is finished tho. They just add stuff at this point.
I wouldn’t talk to a Warden either if I were your mother
hahahahha, this dude said the game is finished xDDDDD
Then what isnt finished?
yea finished, no hope left for it lmao
My mother talks to me just fine she said "Ward is best faction son" I say "Yes mother"
Then what isnt finished?
You mean feature creep?
I am going to go make something to eat, hopefully chat will calm down by then
He is trolling 😛
Not really
mine gave me up for adoption
No it won't
NPCs working? FPS working? Crashes? yes? Guns? yes?
Good choice
I mean him, not you
You can say the word 'shit' in this server, Wolf won't bite
Deggy took me in
Hey buddy I get my crap for free alright
Npc have a semblance of AI now. Performance gotten a good boost with 1.7. what crashes other than caused by mod incompatibility? And what is wrong with the guns?
defending such a scammers, makes u a freaking scammers xd
No. You are just a kid who jap jap jap. No content.
bro npcs from 2010 game works 100 times better lol
For The Monolith.
this patch do smth? from artefact on the ground now ammo from creats go undergorund 🙂 npc still spawning like shit in this alife bubble .... GSC WTF?
what fking mods? xD game is crashing clean
Thinking we pay for gay sex and crap, we have plenty of both here
Lmao
But those are tweaks. Doesnt have to do with game finished or not. Game is finished.
Oh wow someone popping in to say the game is unfinished, how original. A fresh perspective.
Oof might wanna censor that next time
