☢┃stalker-general

[feral sigil]

Ps5 has two good games this entire gen returnal and demkn souls evrything else is mid

[zenith phoenix]

bro's still in the console war, in the year of 2025.

[cyan sparrow]

ahhh those console players these days

[knotty pelican]

or 3.0

[proven hollow]

yeah, join the glorious pc group, where we get to alpha test all the games before they're released on consoles

[knotty pelican]

dont play stalker only wait for patch=)

[zenith phoenix]

so true

[feral sigil]

Nah bro i just want to plug and play i dont need to make 3 million settings before starting a game

Never had a crash in 20 years of gaming

[cyan sparrow]

That's why Ai will replace people who are resistant to think

[proven hollow]

low effort bait

[cyan sparrow]

Dammm

[oblique igloo]

the last of us is good game uncharted series good game spiderman god of war its full good games

[feral sigil]

But thats the thing tho you spend more time making settings than playing tell me i am wrong

Bro those are ps4 games

[shadow token]

this is true, that white thing is the worst thing i buyed in my life

[proven hollow]

wdym making settings?

like what is that supposed to mean?

[zenith phoenix]

if you know what you're doing, no.

[feral sigil]

Just visit steam forums hundreds of threads everyday with people complaining theier game wont start

[zenith phoenix]

Consoles are goated if you're lazy, can't argue with that tho

[shadow token]

i mean, beign lazy it's like beign veeeeeeeeeeeeeery lazy in this case

[zenith phoenix]

Steam forums are a cesspool of trolls. Not indicative of anything.

[cyan sparrow]

steam forums and reddit

[proven hollow]

lmao, "delulu" as the kids these days say

[zenith phoenix]

Or they're trying to run these games on their 20 year old hardware

[cyan sparrow]

It's super easy to use pc's in modern days...

[shadow token]

And discord

[zenith phoenix]

discord especially

[feral sigil]

Look i am not hating PC i am just romantic i grew up with consoles thats it

[proven hollow]

ok i am hating on consoles though

[feral sigil]

Pc is great because it has a lot of uses

[proven hollow]

[cyan sparrow]

romantic and consoles hmmmm....

[zenith phoenix]

i'm not, consoles are fine.

[shadow token]

That usb is for the controller cable

[proven hollow]

after the thousand "when xbox mods being updated?" post and message on this discord i'll pass

[oblique igloo]

Not everyone knows how to use a PC, my dear. Many are afraid to try, so they switch to consoles, turn them on and play stream games, etc. PCs need to be updated from time to time, and there are problems. It's not easy for everyone.

[proven hollow]

if you don't know how to operate a pc you can barely function in modern day society, all office work and 90% of non office work involves pc's

[shadow token]

I imagine these people half bald with glasses and white hair, walking with a cane while saying that

[cyan sparrow]

That's a scary statement...

[proven hollow]

the only people i've ever met who can't use pc's are absolute fossil boomers who are still stuck in dead end jobs

[oblique igloo]

That's true, but I agree with you. However, I have friends younger than me who were born with these things and yet they don't know what a video card is or how to download a PDF. They often come to me because their PC is slow or they don't know how to install antivirus software or a programme to clean up their PC

[proven hollow]

ok, agreed, the newer generation also seems a little clueless at times

[charred nova]

Those people are likely just screwed

If your too dumb to use google

I think your a lost cause frankly

[proven hollow]

eeh, google literally does extra effort to give you crap results so you search more and get more ads shown

[feral sigil]

Lmao bro like 7 out of 10 pc users just use their pc for youtube

Also as far as gaming goes you need to update every two years max, i spend 500 for an xbox an i am gucci for like 8 years

Because guess what the devs optimize their games for MY console

[proven hollow]

that makes 0 sense, they optimise it for a console which has the same hardware throughout its lifetime and that means that pc somehow need updated hardware?

[charred nova]

You don’t need to upgrade every 2 years

My buddy gamed on a 1070 ti for 8 years no problems

Literally used it till it died

[stuck grove]

A console is like dvd player but movies turned into video games

PC is now much more usable but back in the day it would crash a lot, you would need extra software to clean up your hdd, use antivirus and very often format your hdd

Nowadays the only reason to have a console is how easy it is to plug into tv or take it with you to your friend.

[feral sigil]

Lmao but you know i bet he was on 1080 30fps rofl

I spent 500 for 2k 60 see the difference

[oblique igloo]

Consoles are simple: just switch them on and go. It's much easier.

[charred nova]

Nah he wasn’t

[chrome jetty]

And more expensive

[oblique igloo]

more people used console for not troubles

[charred nova]

Consoles are dying out because companies are eliminating the only reason to buy them

Exclusive games

[stuck grove]

Yeah now with w11 developed by vibe coders there is a merit. Otherwise eh windows downloads all drivers you might need

[chrome jetty]

Gabecube on its way to destroy console companies

[charred nova]

Unlikely

[chrome jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/valve-steam-steam-machine-gif-10195138486234832516

[charred nova]

It’s gonna cost like 700 bux so

Won’t be destroying any console companies

[chrome jetty]

Depends how far Valve will go with the marketing

[charred nova]

But as I was saying the whole point of consoles is basically gone now

Nintendo is the only one who still seems to understand the point

[chrome jetty]

It's gonna be aprox 500/400 bucks, where did that 700 bucks came from

[charred nova]

Valve them selves said it won’t be priced like a console

But rather a pc

The hopium of it being a console killer died with that statement

[proven hollow]

console market share has been steadily dropping for a while now, pc and mobile growing

[cyan sparrow]

Yes, indeed. Console became irrelevant when companies started to implement digital copies.

[chrome jetty]

yes and if you check the prices by its components it won't cost 700 bucks lol

[charred nova]

Also China doesn’t allow consoles at all

Which is a giant market

[feral sigil]

Cloud gaming will kill consoles not valve just watch what gerforce now can do

[cyan sparrow]

Bc they need mmo players

[chrome jetty]

they lifted it years ago

[oblique igloo]

steam machine will cost 799 or 899 euro o dollar perhaps you don't know the real price

[feral sigil]

4k 120fps with just 100mpbs internet and a controller

[oblique igloo]

in my opinion

[feral sigil]

All steam and gamepass library

[charred nova]

That’s what I’m saying

[chrome jetty]

Bro have you even checked the hardware lmfao

[charred nova]

It’s not a console killer

[cyan sparrow]

There're infrastructure constrains to deliver cloud gaming, some big companies admitted themselves.

[charred nova]

It’s likely gonna end up being a fairly niche product

[proven hollow]

with current ram prices everything is gonna be hella expensive

[charred nova]

True sooner or later consoles gonna feel it too once supply runs out

[shadow token]

is not that good playstation sold consoles knowing they will loose in spec's value

[chrome jetty]

Valve saying the priority is gonna be affordability

If you calculate the price of the hardware you will notice that it's gonna be around 400-500 bucks

[oblique igloo]

Yes, it's true now, and it's crazy that RAM sticks now come as a package with the motherboard.

[charred nova]

Kuro im sorry brother but your coping

Valve said it will be priced like a pc not a console

Its gonna be 700 bux

[feral sigil]

Xbox already teased their new console.will cost around 1200

[charred nova]

This is just the facts of the matter

[charred nova]

If true Xbox is really over

[chrome jetty]

Playstation have cheaper console compared to the hardware but has a locked service so they make money with their closed market, just like many other companies

Sell the hardware for a cheaper price

Overprice the service

[charred nova]

Nothing of value is lost

[shadow token]

what i wonder is why xbox will keep selling consoles, they seems to be very invested in cloud services

[charred nova]

Valve said they aren’t doing that

That’s the entire point of the statement

[chrome jetty]

Read their statements and calculate the hardware, do you want me to show you a pic of PC builder?

[charred nova]

The console is sold for a profit not a loss

[chrome jetty]

I am talking about Playstation

[chrome jetty]

Not really as much, Valve knows they will profit from Steam because even if you have a PC you are very likely to end up using Steam either way

[shadow token]

yep this is exactly as they work

[cyan sparrow]

I they kept increasing pricing and from november 18 till almost 30 dollars, while titles getting removed from.
Totall non-sense for the game pass model.

[feral sigil]

I cant wait for sony price announcement for ps6 with the current economy

[charred nova]

Steam machine is gonna be 700 plus

[chrome jetty]

I will say it again, Valve said that the main point of the Steam Machine is affordability

[charred nova]

And then instantly contradicted this

[chrome jetty]

I don't know why you keep copy pasting what other journalists says without even researching the hardware

[shadow token]

xbox don't know what is happening in the world they seem very lost

[charred nova]

It’s valves own statement bro

It’s not what some journalist made up

[feral sigil]

I agree, i just pay for a month play like 3 or 4 games i like and thats it

[chrome jetty]

Source?

[proven hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/source-sauce-talking-heads-whats-your-source-gif-5191415888516823269

[chrome jetty]

The price is not listed btw, i know because i looked for it yesterday

[cobalt fiber]

Games have been removed and new ones added on game pass since it was a thing

It’s nothing new and there’s no conspiracy

[charred nova]

https://youtu.be/yvu66Y2VLq8?si=s7x4C-CYlzAgCfiC

[proven hollow]

yeah, there has always been a little tag on games "soon removed from gamepass" as well

[shadow token]

i don't understand how can gamepass keep living, it seems like a doomed project since the first day for me

[feral sigil]

It has 30m subscribers

[shadow token]

not to mention the impact that have on little devs studios

[proven hollow]

eeh, i took it a few times to play some singleplayer games on there that i wanted to give a try

[charred nova]

Streaming in general is a car barreling off a cliff at high velocity

[cyan sparrow]

I'm not pursuing that's a conspiracy, however good games been removed... which could keep more players.

[feral sigil]

They getting paid upfront everyones happy

[charred nova]

It’s why all streaming services are turning into cable

With mandatory 3 minute ad breaks

[shadow token]

tell that to tango or arkane

[proven hollow]

but pretty much all my microsoft services are broken on this pc for some reason ever since i installed windows 11

[charred nova]

Gamepass is not long for this world

It’s almost certainly operated at a loss

[feral sigil]

Yea i mean redfall was really bad

Hows that ms fault

[shadow token]

dude redfall was a microsoft thing 100% sure

[oblique igloo]

This year it has increased so much that it is no longer worthwhile. Perhaps that PC that has not increased so much.

[shadow token]

they were coming from prey and dishonored what are you talking about

[chrome jetty]

They haven't stated the price, they stated that it's gonna be a mid-level PC but with a competitive price in order to be affordable compared to the same mid-level PC that they sell with the same components

Nothing burger

[proven hollow]

what game developers need to go back to understanding is that when people come home from work, they want to launch a game, shoot shit, or experience a rich story and setting

[charred nova]

How much does a mid level cost

[chrome jetty]

1:23:15 btw

[charred nova]

700 to 1000 dollars

[cyan sparrow]

People who really loves gaming buys a pc. Based

[cobalt fiber]

But that’s always happened

Games come and games go

[chrome jetty]

Again, it's very different from your claim that Valve announced the price, it just proved what i said that Valve main priority is affordability so it's gonna be less than the price of a PC with the same hardware

Plus counting that it won't have Windows but rather SteamOS, which decreases the price by like 50-100 bucks

[oblique igloo]

It will definitely be in that price range. You can't get a Steam Machine for €500 like you can a console.

[cobalt fiber]

Higher spending - acquisitions, Fortnite pass, etc. = higher sub cost

[proven hollow]

and entire genres of games just don't exist on console, indie games, MMORPG's are hugely limited, strategy games as well

[cobalt fiber]

People begged for the activision blizzard acquisition for day one cod releases & Bethesda game pass day ones and overall GP access

[shadow token]

i'm praying to Monolith for State of Decay 3 health

[cobalt fiber]

When they got it they cried cos they didn’t get to keep paying $15

When really it’s common sense

And everything everywhere is going up in price

[cyan sparrow]

You're praying to the wrong group.

[cobalt fiber]

It was never going to be forever sustainable at its old price

[charred nova]

That’s not what I said at all lmfao

I said they announced it would be priced like a pc

[cyan sparrow]

Yes, indeed. That's best choice is still pc.

[chrome jetty]

What did it say then? You should check the timestamp

[charred nova]

that’s all they said

[cobalt fiber]

I still pay for game pass ultimate cos it’s really not that deep of a price hike

Unless you’re like

[oblique igloo]

Not only that, but another problem is the acquisition of Activision and the inclusion of Call of Duty in Game Pass, which everyone is complaining about, but it has always sold very well as a game, and lots of people play it on Game Pass, and in my opinion, this has caused Microsoft Xbox to lose a lot of money.

[cobalt fiber]

Unemployed

[shadow token]

Don't judge a desperate man

[cobalt fiber]

How they lost money?

[cyan sparrow]

I don't, my goal is to navigate you on the right path.

[cobalt fiber]

Cos a few people on Reddit say they cancelled their subscription?

They’re still making a profit

Xbox being dead is a conspiracy theory drawn up by people who can’t afford $10-15

The answer to which is simply, earn some money

[oblique igloo]

t's not official, but if they've increased the gamepass so much, I think there's something to cover up in terms of lost money

[cobalt fiber]

They’re increasing prices because of increased costs and the cost of living global crisis

lol

[tiny merlin]

Or its jus coroprate greed

[cobalt fiber]

They’re still flipping a profit

Also cloud gaming is a lot more stable than it was

And was a selling point

[feral sigil]

Investers are really not happy with xbox income right now and this is a huge problem

[oblique igloo]

Hmm, I'm not really convinced about this. I don't think it's the crisis's fault if gamepasses are increasing.

[shadow token]

i don't feel like the xbox environment feels healthy and focused at the moment to be honest, more like the opposite and this would be incoherent with profits

And i don't think that Valve incursion will improve this

[oblique igloo]

They want you to believe that, but in my opinion, the reality is quite different. In any case, Microsoft Xbox is in good health; it's not going to die tomorrow. Let's be clear, it's doing more than fine.

[shadow token]

is in good health as much as a grandpa conected to oxygen tank

cause he can live

[oblique igloo]

hahahaha maybe

[feral sigil]

Xbox hardware alone is -29% down how is that good

[shadow token]

this is all subjective, i'm a little console hater to be honest

[oblique igloo]

Bye, I'm off to play The Beast. Looking forward to patch 1.7.1.

[tiny merlin]

I hate both consoles and PCs, mobile gaming supermacy!

[proven hollow]

should be talking about how GSC gonna be broke unless they fix their game tbh

[shadow token]

pick your poison

[oblique igloo]

mobile is future Companies make billions in profits from mobile gaming.

[tiny merlin]

Yup, both consoles and PC dont come close

[proven hollow]

unironically yes, mobile gaming is by far the most interesting to invest in

i mean the games on there are borderline gambling/addiction simulators, but that's why it works

[oblique igloo]

Oh yes, that's true.

[shadow token]

mmm well tell that to gta6 launch at the near future

[cyan sparrow]

Everyone wants now mobile gaming, and gamma...

[proven hollow]

not from the persective of a game company making games for consoles/pc you numbnut...

[oblique igloo]

We'll see with the launch of GTA 6, which I think we'll see in 2027. I hope not, but I have a feeling we will.

[shadow token]

100% end of 2026

[proven hollow]

one of the few games that pc players won't have to alpha test

[shadow token]

so don't worry

[feral sigil]

I hate mobile gaming

[oblique igloo]

I really hope so

gta6 end 2026

[shadow token]

gta 6 is the only reason i didn't sold my ps5 yet

[proven hollow]

eeh, i can see the appeal of mobile gaming, since it's easy to pick up everywhere for just a few minutes, but it's one of those addictions i'm not gonna get into, like smoking

[oblique igloo]

See you later, and behave yourselves—don't fight over 1.7.1.

[proven hollow]

i was at the movies last week and some person sitting next to me pulled out her damned phone every five minutes to play some game

[oblique igloo]

its realy true

[stark crescent]

Why go to movies if ue gonna game on ur phone...

[proven hollow]

yeah i don't understand that either

[stark crescent]

And why phone. Just bring your pc. Battery pack. Wifi.

[feral sigil]

Maybe he didnt like the movie

[proven hollow]

i think she was mostly there cause her partner wanted to see the movie tbh

[burnt bridge]

Meh I’d just watch the movie and not care about other people

[cyan sparrow]

We had once on the standup a guy who played some CoD/CS alike game, and got exposed, because of his glasses reflection.

[proven hollow]

pretty much what i did

[feral sigil]

Anyways there are two billion players in the world and most of them on mobile so we have to respect that but personally i wont ever support it the majority of games are lame

[violet dune]

Call of Duty

[feral sigil]

Like even if a good game is ported there its not the same experience bro lets be real

[cyan sparrow]

CoD7 is peak

[visual mortar]

Black Ops 1?

the 7th CoD

[cyan sparrow]

Contextual yes, just a jest.

btw

When i get back my name

@tiny merlin You're typing a essay?

My name is back! WHoooaaa

[tiny merlin]

Mobile gaming is for the masses, that is an unfortunate truth. Most people are not interested in gaming on PCs or even consoles (that have an easiness of access feel about them). That plus, unfortunately, for some time now, big corporations have had a huge bloat of corporate and, to some degree, active workers that slows the whole process down, especially in the gaming industry, where you have meetings about scheduling meetings about three different departments greenlighting even the smallest changes or proposals

[tiny merlin]

Hahaha, yea

[sand magnet]

no shit

[tiny merlin]

TLDR: I hate it here

[cyan sparrow]

In gaming industry or server? xD

[sand magnet]

Goddamn, if they add the ability to smoke cigarettes, when they finish adding everything that should have been there from the very beginning, I'll be a fcg old man.

[hardy totem]

Yes

[tiny merlin]

both? both! both is good 😁

[hardy totem]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[proven hollow]

i think it's also just that you can do it during a break at work, during transit with public transport, when waiting for someone, etc

[tiny merlin]

Easiness of access, for sure

[charred nova]

Come on bro this place isn’t so bad

We hate on gamma players we talk about how bad the game is and what else could you want

[tiny merlin]

Ok, enough with this down-to-earth reality stupidity. What are we hating on next?

[charred nova]

I like this guy

He’s got true hater energy

[tiny merlin]

[ancient fractal]

I love putting the flag of Jordan everywhere

[tiny merlin]

Yee, nooo, not touching that topic with a ten-foot pole

[mortal skiff]

Yo gng

[ancient fractal]

Michael jordan

[mortal skiff]

2 guns different ammo or 2 guns same ammo

[ancient fractal]

Games and bacon for life or no games

[charred nova]

bro puts up a flag with a pair of shoes on it

[mortal skiff]

So basically different ammo?

[ancient fractal]

Michael Jordan should own a country

Both of them

[burnt bridge]

No hotfix today sad times

Gotta be before the weekend surely

[cyan sparrow]

You can continue play gamma for sure

[bright ether]

I FIXED THE LUMEN!

[proven hollow]

i don't think we can expect the patch before next week tbh

[burnt bridge]

Okay

[ancient fractal]

Will the next update let us join freedom and marry bloodsuckers

[burnt bridge]

The way he has been talking about it like they are still working on stuff seems that way

[ancient fractal]

Michael Jordan and Michael b Jordan should fight to control the country of Jordan

[proven hollow]

yup

[feral sigil]

My bet is next tuesday

[tiny merlin]

Probably more things to fix than they initially suspected. Ahhh, I can't wait for all the posts on Reddit and Steam

[ancient fractal]

The cnpp wouldn't have exploded if it wasn't communist trash 🙏

And if they actually cared for it way more

[proven hollow]

"Perhaps, all the the CNPP really needs is our compassion"

[charred nova]

Mans having some very agreeable takes today

[ancient fractal]

Literally

[golden gulch]

They ##$&ed up so badly the patch isn't ready today

[ancient fractal]

The reds made the safest energy source the most dangerous for 2 seconds

[charred nova]

Those graphite tipped rods would have behaved if they hadn’t just got a nasty call from the wife the night before

[proven hollow]

I've got a graphite tipped rod for you

[ancient fractal]

La passion

[proven hollow]

As in, i'm selling enriched uranium

[charred nova]

His fiancé the lead plates told him this wasn’t working

It’s no surprise bro was off his game

[proven hollow]

want some?

[torpid schooner]

[ancient fractal]

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[tiny merlin]

Is that a graphite tripped rod in you pocket or are you just happy to se me

[bright ether]

Share my excitement! Now this game looks all right!

[hallow shadow]

Of course.
When I don’t own the game, we get to smoke cigarettes.

[little mantle]

[torpid schooner]

glory to the monolith

[little mantle]

Yes

[feral sigil]

1.7.1 will be nice if they add some snow for xmas

[ancient fractal]

Nuclear winter

[feral sigil]

I hope that mo1lt dude reads my comment

[tiny merlin]

All the bloodsuckers with santa clothes, the Buers in green like gnomes

[violet dune]

buddy thinks 0.0.1 patch of the major patch = 64km snow map

[feral sigil]

Bro i am not asking to rewrite the code lmfao just some snoq effects would be nice

[violet dune]

just download more rams

[stuck seal]

Instructions unclear, I now have a collection of photographs of bovine creatures in my photo gallery

[proven hollow]

yeah patch ain't looking good boys, finally got a saturday all freed up and can't even play stalker properly 🙁

[wicked magnet]

Blue balls

[proven hollow]

the blue-est

[tiny merlin]

[proven hollow]

the fastest mods in the west 😛

[tiny merlin]

The bot didnt even know what hit him

[slow crypt]

pls

[old forge]

Monolit monolit please release 1.7.1

[slow crypt]

Why the rush?

[slow crypt]

Did you guys have so many problems with version 1.7?

[regal sinew]

I can’t get any artifacts without this fix coming.

[old forge]

Artifacts are pretty borked

[regal sinew]

They’re all spawning underground.

[old forge]

Otherwise it’s whatever

[slow crypt]

Ah, I didn't play that much to know that, curious.

Honestly, it seems strange to me that they're updating the game so much before the engine change; isn't that counterproductive?

[proven hollow]

they can't exactly leave the game broken while still working on the engine update either, and i'm sure the last few updates were made with the engine update in mind

[regal sinew]

I was like half way through a Veteran run with no deaths then Master difficulty came out, so I started again a Master run with no deaths, haven’t made it out of the Lesser Zone yet but I’m close but I can’t get any fuggin Artis!

[proven hollow]

the main problem is that they made a lot of custom systems in the engine that needs to be ported, all the stock stuff in the game is probably backwards compatible to some decent degree

[slow crypt]

but doesn't that mean that while they're updating the game, they're also updating the new version at the same time?

It sounds super impractical

[proven hollow]

not really, say you have a custom system for artifact spawning, and you are recreating that exact system in the newer version of the engine, whatever work you do on it will transfer with to the new engine, it doesn't require any more work to transfer the old unchanged system to the new engine than it does to transfer the new updated system to the new engine.

[tiny merlin]

I suppose that is why the patches are a little slow now after the 1.7., they probably are focusing on the engine update. So probably a smaller portion of time/work is focused on fixing bugs, especially as you mentioned in some capacity these patches now are probably redundant, considering the engine update

[proven hollow]

and a decent chunk will be backwards compatible between engine versions with slight changes, it's the custom systems that are the real time sink i think

[slow crypt]

Well, that and the DLC... I don't know why people are happy about that.

[pseudo gate]

But also maybe they are digging into fundamental issue of collision detection for everything, npcs, artifacts, items

It was there since 1.0 after all

[proven hollow]

it does seem to extend beyond artifacts yeah, i've seen the ground swallow anything, from bodies, to guns, to artifacts

[slow crypt]

Wait, now that I remember, the first corpse from the prologue appears buried underground; I noticed it in the last benchmark I did.

I thought it was a random bug

[proven hollow]

well, generally corpses do tend to be buried underground, ever been to a cemetery?

[tiny merlin]

Yeah, it's some kind of bigger issue. There is also a possibility that maybe the newer version of the engine solves that or helps with tackling that problem.

[slow crypt]

Now, I want to see if they can optimize the game without downgrading it.

There are areas with so little vegetation compared to version 1.0 that they look like they're from Fallout: New Vegas.

[kindred fable]

Can you tell me where? I have both 1.7 and 1.0 installed rn

[slow crypt]

Me too, it's noticeable in many areas, even in the early cinematics placing the sensor in the prologue; I publish many images in C con

[eternal mountain]

thats interesting, i remember 1.0 vegetation looking so ass, now its more eyecandyish and lush

[vernal rampart]

Donnie brasco

[cobalt fiber]

Fuhgedaboutit

[slow crypt]

There are more, but they're worse positioned in version 1.0.

It's very noticeable that it was procedurally placed using that Unreal tool.

[vernal rampart]

Donnie brasco

[cobalt fiber]

Fuhgedaboutit

[vernal rampart]

Donnie brasco

[cobalt fiber]

Fuhgedaboutit!

[eternal mountain]

yeah different quality settings yield different positions

[vernal rampart]

Donnie brasco

DONNIE BRASCO

[slow crypt]

Even in terms of quantity, version 1.0 still had more, that's what I mean

I will send screenshots in the screens chat

[hallow shadow]

In regard to the announcement about the Cooling Towers.
If you’re on Series S, don’t go up to the top of the Tower.
You will crash, after using the teleport anomaly, if you didn’t crash partway up the jumping platform.

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-face-itstommylove-stalker-stalker-2-laughing-gif-5825873400318228145

Grok thinking I got banned... I left myself!!!

https://tenor.com/view/risitas-el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-issou-jesus-gif-12145166

[kindred fable]

I did some direct comparisons of some random spots I had screenshoted and looks like I was lucky enough to screenshot the ones that have more foliage in 1.7. Check out my last screenshots in #💬┃en_offtop

[hallow shadow]

100% of the time, by the way. There hasn’t been a fix for this.

Series S players, I’m sorry. But we can only hang out under the Cooling Tower

[lunar wharf]

You know youcan browse discords without joining them right?

[solemn viper]

How do I make sure that my mods are all completely disabled/removed?

[dreamy dagger]

You can?

[lunar wharf]

Well at least it was an option a while ago

[stuck pivot]

Patch when, patch when, patch when

[hallow shadow]

Oh, is the Gamma glazer guy?

[lunar wharf]

You can anyway join in, grab what you want and leave

[slow crypt]

Look at my images; the low graphic quality doesn't help you in comparisons.

[dreamy dagger]

Alright, I'll wait for GAMMA 2...

[solemn viper]

Pls help, it can’t be that hard to help

[hallow shadow]

Are you on Xbox, or PC?

Can’t you just tell if all of your stuff isn’t gone?

It’s a PC. Aren’t they supposed to be like.., Smart?

[novel wave]

could delete the workshop folder with the mods in them

[shell flax]

Depends on if they’re using Steam mods or manually installed ones from nexus, Mewtwo

[hallow shadow]

That’s why I asked.

[kindred fable]

Yea, I know, I wasn't making them for comparing the graphics, just wanted to see the way scenes change as a whole

[hallow shadow]

Cause Mod.io on console is different for PC, apparently. I just learned that.

[shell flax]

Manually installed ones can sometimes hide themselves if the installation is weird or if you use Vortex (Dogshit mod manager btw )

[hallow shadow]

I learn something new, every day.

VOULEZ-VOUS EN SAVOIR PLUS?!

[cyan sparrow]

No patch….

[slow crypt]

I did performance tests, and honestly, for 12 months there's very little difference (only populated areas saw significant improvements).

[shadow token]

I just wake up and watch that cigar thing and i though it was an oficial update…. Dissapointed as hell

[hallow shadow]

Bro, smoking anims is groundbreaking. Fk you mean?

Ultimate RP realizzum in the Zone smoke mah smokes, eats me rations, protects me little un’s, and praise me Emprah

Funny hat man said I get fruit, today.

[shadow token]

Meantime my f**** artofacts spawning underground while they’re promoting smoke behaviour on young teenz not good gsc not good

[old forge]

Monolit

[hallow shadow]

ZA MOHOLIT

[kindred fable]

I have like ~10+ fps in general (while playing on min settings cause gtx1080 and r5 2600x)

[slow crypt]

It depends on the area; if you look at the screenshots, I barely saw any extra performance, especially if there are no NPCs in the scene.

In Zalasia, it was the area I noticed the most with 30%

all other areas I barely get 5-8 fps, so it falls short.

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/bullshit-bull-bs-no-jon-stewart-gif-20371511

[charred nova]

well sir if you just get the up coming 9950x3d2 surely that will fix your problem

[old forge]

U downloading gam gam?

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-washington-american-gangster-gif-10559307

[old forge]

I know u are krezz

[old forge]

Where were u last night???

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-stretch-legs-paws-gif-6882704

[shadow token]

Here we go again is that time of the day where the chat genuinely give me headaches

[hallow shadow]

“Stormin’ through The Zone like my name is El Niña.
Cause I’m hanging out back, drinking with Uncle Lyonya!
As a kid, my name was Skif, and no one knew me by name.
Just my own Slag party cause nobody came.
Well, I know I’m not the one you thought you knew back in Rostok.
Never going, never showing up when we had to.
Artifacts that we crave, don’t tell us to behave
I’m sick of always hearing “not your age”
I don’t wanna waste my time, become a casualty of CNPP.
I’ll never fall in line, become another victim of the mutant nests, and back down!”
-Fat Zone, Breeki 41

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/when-you-do-something-stupid-and-look-around-to-make-sure-nobody-saw-that-gif-26445197

[shadow token]

[still edge]

#📜┃gsc-answers message
Uneployeed behavior

[vernal rampart]

Yea right

@dreamy dagger

[true beacon]

So could anyone of you help me with SOC

[vernal rampart]

Soc?

[zenith phoenix]

bro u have the veteran rank on the stalker discord

[true beacon]

Shadow of Chernobyl, I need some help

[vernal rampart]

What help

[still edge]

And?

[zenith phoenix]

no patch, i'm out

[true beacon]

I'm Tryna do the mission in radar where you have to turn off the brain scorcher and it shows I need radiation protection

[vernal rampart]

Soc is a dlc?

[true beacon]

Where do I acquire such a protecrion

[true beacon]

Shadow of Chernobyl mate

The first game of the stalker series 🙏🏻🥀

[tall hawk]

isnt there a special suit you need to get from the scientists

[vernal rampart]

Been 2 days I started playing stalker..with stalker 2

[true beacon]

I got a helmet

[tall hawk]

yeah that

[true beacon]

But it still killse

[tall hawk]

does a timer not show up when you enter the area with the scorcher

[vernal rampart]

Do u need any help with staler 2?

[true beacon]

The problem is I can't even walk there cause the radiation kills me

[tall hawk]

take antirad I guess

[vernal rampart]

Do u need any help with staler 2?

[true beacon]

Aight imma try

But it kills me very fast tho

[true beacon]

Nah ,thx

[shadow token]

dissaponted too

[feral sigil]

Mol1t said yesterday they are still working on the fix its obvious it aint coming till next week

[dreamy dagger]

2 weeks for 1 hotfix?

Mad world!

2 girls 1 c....

Wrong chat, sorry

[tiny merlin]

Well I dont know, how long does it take to code: <if bugs=true then fix_bugs>?

[true beacon]

Doesn't work im dying too fast

[dreamy dagger]

2 suckers 1 room

WHAT DO YOU DO?

[tiny merlin]

Suck the room

[feral sigil]

Turn off ps5

[violet dune]

NEW LEAKS: "cooling pond overheated so much that in winter the water stayed almost warm, even when everything around was frozen." GG NEXT DLC WILL HAVE WINTER

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-lol-lmao-so-funny-laugh-gif-17907880

[dreamy dagger]

@waxen marten 1.8 by the end of December 2025???

2.0 by the end of Summer 26?!

[feral sigil]

Engine update by the end of 3040

Mo1lt come on bro we all here are diehard fans give us something

We wont tell anyone

[tiny merlin]

Not a soul will know, pinky promise

[cyan sparrow]

Someone told me Stalker 2 GOTY 2032

[tall hawk]

GOTY 2024 but close enough

actually the first time a game other than Halo Reach has won a GOTY award in my book

[cyan sparrow]

In 2024 the game wasn’t released yet

and still isn’t in 1.0 state

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/do-something-meme-gif-8007840

[tall hawk]

still mogged everything else in 2024

[old forge]

That’s what I’m saying

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/cinemagraph-fight-club-edward-norton-hug-support-group-gif-3419168

[feral sigil]

Yall think stalker 2 coop would be fun ?

[violet dune]

yes, they already making it

[dreamy dagger]

They cooken

[feral sigil]

Oh nice,i thought it was pvp on ly

[violet dune]

its pvp / pve like arc raiders

[dreamy dagger]

You just been trolled. In fact, coop was announced as never happening way back in 2019 or so by Super_Prophet.

@stark crescent IZ REALZZZZZZZZZZ

[stark crescent]

i get headshotted by everything! i die by radiation everywhere!

but imma be fine. im gonna figure it out myself

that is the stalker way

[violet dune]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-what-huh-gif-14026649281713077235

[true beacon]

nah he asked if i need help with stalker 2, which i dont. i need help with shadow of chernobyl

[stark crescent]

i mean. down to the base, all stalker games are kind of the same

just fit the best equipment

[vernal rampart]

Why not

[true beacon]

because i dont have stalker 2

[vernal rampart]

@dreamy dagger hi

[stark crescent]

but this is the stalker 2 chat

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/evaan-humpday-gif-20876592

[vernal rampart]

@dreamy dagger just reminded me theres so many puppies roaming around

What say bud @dreamy dagger

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-dance-orange-is-the-new-black-season06-orange-is-the-new-black-brasil-gif-12143597

[vernal rampart]

What’s that on laptip

[vernal rampart]

@true beacon

[true beacon]

yeah sry didnt saw the other one

[cyan sparrow]

How is Gamma so far? enjoying?

[untold prawn]

I’m in a dilemma I bought on day one stalker 2 on pc liked it but way too much buggs now I don’t have a pc anymore so I’m wondering should I get it on ps5?

[vernal rampart]

You usually sirry to strangers on net? That sad life?

[kind citrus]

ni hao fine skif

[vernal rampart]

Ni hao ma

Damn chinese

[kind citrus]

😭 sorry i don't speak mandarin
does this mean "how are you"

[shadow token]

That’s manners

[stark crescent]

you traded your pc for a ps5?

[vernal rampart]

No it meant china shat in her breakfast bowl

[kind citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[stark crescent]

are you dumb?

[vernal rampart]

Who

[kind citrus]

depends how good the PC is
gaming on console is cheaper

[stark crescent]

you need to pay a subscription to play online. not to mention you pay 10 bucks extra, console tax, for games

[vernal rampart]

Console is stupidity

[stark crescent]

how is console gaming cheaper than pc gaming. plus, with pc gaming, you can resell old hardware whenever you upgrade. so upgrading doesnt cost that much more.

[vernal rampart]

Pc = cheaper beter

[kind citrus]

building a pc rn is incredibly expensive
thanks to clanker companies hoarding everything

[vernal rampart]

Dumb

[untold prawn]

No I just don’t have it anymore

[kind citrus]

even 32GB of ddr5 ram costs 26k INR(289USD) here, you can get a RTX 9060 XT 8GB by throwing 50 USD extra

[vernal rampart]

Ok anyways guys, i am just two large pegs down on old monk rum. So was just messing around. Please dont mind😍

I will now go and walk Django out

[stark crescent]

you can try finding some older ddr4 parts. i mean, unless you are doing production, the difference between ddr4 and ddr5 is literally just a couple of frames in games.

im still sporting a 5800x3d, which is still sometimes outperforming intel's latest. so its not that bad.

[kind citrus]

DDR5 is good for upgradibility in the future
apart from that, i agree with you

[kind citrus]

😭 tht's not a bad cpu afdhhoafhsdaf

tbh i play pre 2015 games for the most part so games are cheap for me

[stark crescent]

card...

[kind citrus]

cpu typo

hopefully by the time i get a job, the prices are lower

i'd like to build a pc too

[neon schooner]

This "PIONER" game feels like Stalker but as MMO

[hallow shadow]

New Major Order?
“Liberate the Mustafar System”

[kind citrus]

jst checked, it has anomalies and pda so it's definitely inspired by STALKER

[neon schooner]

Yuh

And it's also UE5 💔

This stutters on any settings

[kind citrus]

well most AAA games these days are ue5

[cyan sparrow]

UE5 is great!

[kind citrus]

except rockstar and remedy, all the AAA games are UE5(could also include crytek but their latest game is hunt showdown and they haven't released any major game recently)

[vernal rampart]

What’s rock star then

Unity?

[kind citrus]

RAGE engine

[vernal rampart]

Rdr2?

[neon schooner]

Also Capcom, Ubisoft, EA

[kind citrus]

their own proprietary engine
Remedy uses northlight and crytek uses cryengine

[kind citrus]

every rockstar game post GTA san andreas is built on rage engine

[frigid hill]

stalkerwalky has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[kind citrus]

capcom? didn't know that
Yeah i forgot ubi, they have their own engine

[vernal rampart]

Cat

[neon schooner]

Funny how they made Russians use their own analog because of an exclusive contract

[kind citrus]

yes?

[vernal rampart]

Hey cat

[neon schooner]

The same as with Atomic Heart

[vernal rampart]

😘

[kind citrus]

wdym

[neon schooner]

Ofc Capcom uses their own engine

[kind citrus]

what?

[vernal rampart]

Respond to that @kind citrus

[kind citrus]

i am a guy 🫃

[slow crypt]

Unity, Frostbite, Decima Engine, RAGE, dantelion2 etc...

[vernal rampart]

Yuck 🤮

Wtf u call yourself.. cat

[neon schooner]

Devs that made the game made an exclusive contract with Rostelekom to make their game an exclusive of their platform for Russians and Belarusians

[vernal rampart]

That’s sissy

[kind citrus]

yeah i missed frostbite, didn't know about the others
Unity too but most AAA games don't use unity if i am not wrong?

[vernal rampart]

Aaa no game on unity

[kind citrus]

i wanna be anonymous so i entered a random word

[slow crypt]

Considering the funding, games like Tarkov are considered AAA titles.

[neon schooner]

Rust, Cities Skylines, Genshin Impact

[feral gust]

UE 5 with lumen and nanite🤮, U5 without it, kinda ok

[vernal rampart]

Played none

[neon schooner]

And also Cuphead

[vernal rampart]

Never heard

[neon schooner]

And Subnautica

[slow crypt]

for putting even rust

[slow crypt]

is not aaa game

[vernal rampart]

Damgerous dave

[hallow shadow]

Yeah, no. I agree.
Those server-based survival games are too toxic to be AAA

[kind citrus]

yaeh if i am not wrong AAA games are supposed to have 10m+USD in funding

[feral gust]

Any good ue 5 game is one where they removed nanite and lumen and modified the engine like arc raiders

[vernal rampart]

Tarkov?

[neon schooner]

Damn

[neon schooner]

Dying light the beast

[slow crypt]

I doubt they're that few; if that were the case, most would be.

[hallow shadow]

I’ve never played Tarkov specifically.
But if it’s an extraction shooter… Yeah. I automatically assume the worst.

[misty goblet]

I was really hoping for a new update today 🙁 sure it'll come eventually but got my hopes up for some reason

[neon schooner]

I have very weird taste in games so uh yeah, most games just don't click for me

[slow crypt]

The thing is, of all the games released for Unreal Engine 5, only one hasn't crashed, and that's Expedition 33. although with its own version

[neon schooner]

But some peak franchises do thankfully

[hallow shadow]

Outer Worlds 2

[kind citrus]

what's expedition 33 even about? i haven't checked it out

[slow crypt]

shit optimization budy

[neon schooner]

I don't like expedition 33, in all honesty

[hallow shadow]

I wanna say that’s a UE5 game, and I didn’t crash once.

[neon schooner]

Every time a number changes people of that age die

[kind citrus]

😭 oh it's a turn based RPG ahhhhhhh

[hallow shadow]

Shit optimization? Buddy, I play on a Series S.
Optimization is fine.
Just upgrade

[slow crypt]

Persona 3 French version of Unreal engine jajaja

[neon schooner]

That's basically it

[feral gust]

Cause it is modified, every u5 has to be, otherwishe it is shit fest

[slow crypt]

bad bait boy

[neon schooner]

Nvidia has their own UE5 based engine which is VERY heavily modified

And that's where The Finals and Arc Raiders come from

[hallow shadow]

It’s not bad bait, dawg.
You’re just wrong.

Blegh. Arc Raiders.

[slow crypt]

Improve the bait next time

[hallow shadow]

My Series S shouldn’t be able to do what your rig can’t.
Run games.

[neon schooner]

Everything that's left from UE5 there is like... the very base

[slow crypt]

desperate bait 😭 crazy

[valid umbra]

DAM SEEING THose photos in #media im supper excited to finally reach pripyat

[neon schooner]

And The Witcher 4 devs are rewriting UE5 too rn

[hallow shadow]

It’s not really bait, Dr Kruger.

CDPR better be cooking with Witcher 4.

[slow crypt]

Yeah, whatever you say have a good day kidp

[hallow shadow]

I’m still waiting on mods for W3 to hit console, next year.

[neon schooner]

I dunno what have they done to optimization on PCs there

Because Outer worlds 2 is one of the most unoptimized games on PC so far

[sacred cedar]

So no Patch this week huh?

[neon schooner]

You can run the game at 60 fps with ray tracing with rtx 5090... in 720p

[hallow shadow]

Most people I encounter saying “unplayable” and “bad performance” are usually folks with subpar rigs.

My series chugs these games just fine. It’s a computer issue, not a Dev issue. To me, at least.

[neon schooner]

You guys don't have hardware ray tracing at all there, that's why

[hallow shadow]

Ok. Well, get a card that can?

[neon schooner]

5090 can't.

[hallow shadow]

Or play a different game?
But it’s not unplayable.
I can play it.

[charred nova]

sure you can

[violet dune]

gtx 760 gpu, 8gb ddr3, i5-6400k, 7200 hdd and this dog ahh game cant handle 4k 60fps...

[charred nova]

get out your bga rework station and get to work

there is at least 15 to 20 percent more performance you can get

[lean dome]

4070ti is bang for buck

[weary hedge]

Series x can

[slow crypt]

The guy must think his version of the Series S doesn't come with upscaling, capped frames, and altered graphics; it's typical of desperate users of consoles like the Series S to do this.

[neon schooner]

This game has some weird CPU bottleneck for some reason

[charred nova]

9950x3d2

just around the corner

[neon schooner]

The best CPU on the market bottlenecks 5090 in this game for some weird reason

So that's why you physically can't get above 60 fps without frame gen

You can look at benchmarks

[charred nova]

well there gonna release an even better one soon

[violet dune]

because blodsuckers sucking hard

[charred nova]

get that

[dreamy dagger]

Good sex

[proven hollow]

people who play gamma don't have sex

[neon schooner]

Hardware ray tracing is PC only

[charred nova]

pretty sure consoles have some rt cores

[slow crypt]

Yes, it depends on the console to a lesser extent.

[neon schooner]

It doesn't necessarily mean devs let console gamers run the game at rt

[hallow shadow]

Shiiiit. Consoles can only ever ray trace at like the lowest

[neon schooner]

Outer worlds 2 devs obviously don't, because it'd ruin the performance

[cyan sparrow]

Consoles vs Pc; part 2 on Stalker officials.

[hallow shadow]

Like for Fallout and Skyrim mods?
Changing those ini’s (for console) can be bad.

[neon schooner]

The game runs okayish without ray tracing

[slow crypt]

The game looks mediocre for how it's running

[hallow shadow]

Especially if you completely disable some stuff. Console has to have it all toned down. But it can be done.

[charred nova]

i mean i heard that game was mid as hell anyways

[weary hedge]

Nah, you can on x. You take a dip in fps but not impossible. For example elden ring is capable of this. But most pcs can’t even run ray tracing lmao

[neon schooner]

True

[hallow shadow]

It wasn’t mid.
The people who wrote the reviews just didn’t know what they were playing.

They can’t read, probably.
Speaking corporate is a bit too much, for some.

[neon schooner]

Tell me where's the setting on series x to turn on ray tracing in outer worlds 2

Hardware ray tracing

[hallow shadow]

“The writing is boring” no. You just don’t know what you’re reading.
“The enemies are bullet sponges” did you not know this was an RPG, requires builds?

[weary hedge]

I dont know about that game. It’s up to the developers to optimize such things

[mint thunder]

oi oi

[slow crypt]

The RTX feature in Elder Ring is practically nonexistent; I say this because it's not even noticeable, and I don't know what it's used for.

[neon schooner]

I was talking about specifically outer worlds 2. I know it supports ray tracing

[cyan sparrow]

Soon you guys will start to speak same positive about Starfield

[charred nova]

its writing and story will always stand in the shadow of new vegas

that is just the reality of it

[dreamy dagger]

https://c.tenor.com/kaqGbQN5jq4AAAAd/tenor.gif

[hallow shadow]

New Vegas has been overglazed.

[weary hedge]

Obviously it’s not universal on console because the hardware isn’t good enough

[weary hedge]

Shadows was the biggest factor

[charred nova]

has better writing than outerworlds

lol

[neon schooner]

Some games have forced ray tracing nowadays. And for some reason games with forced ray tracing sometimes run better than games without it (new DOOM)

[charred nova]

i mean idk the new indian jones game had forced rt but it runs pretty good

[hallow shadow]

Not really. That’s just a nostalgia bias.

[weary hedge]

New doom looked like shit on console

[neon schooner]

It runs pretty well I think

[charred nova]

it does

i played it on both my 3090 and 9070 xt

[neon schooner]

Looks amazing on my rig somehow

[charred nova]

runs really well

[hallow shadow]

Dark Ages did look kinda dookie. It was dookie.
Two levels in, and turned it off.

[charred nova]

yah dark ages looked uninteresting

i didn't even bother

[neon schooner]

I ran it on nightmare settings without any upscaling in 60-70fps

[weary hedge]

It’s extremely burry and the textures are smeared

[cobalt fiber]

I mean

Outer worlds 2 was definitely mid

So was the first one

[frigid hill]

stalkerwalky has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[weary hedge]

But yeah pc got the good end of the stick for that game

[neon schooner]

And this game looked so damn juicy

🙏

[hallow shadow]

Outer Worlds is better than Avowed, and aside from Outer Worlds, and New Vegas.., Obsidian has no real track record.

All of their games could be considered “mid”

[cobalt fiber]

Avowed is shit, Outer Worlds is mid

New Vegas is hot shit

[hallow shadow]

Why were they mid to you?

[charred nova]

thats not really saying much

[weary hedge]

Avowed was so disappointing. The hype was real

[hallow shadow]

Because Obsidian really isn’t much.

[cobalt fiber]

The writing wasn’t great, watered down

Enemy design was poor

World design could have been better

[slow crypt]

so bad, skyrim is 100% better

[cobalt fiber]

Setting was good

[weary hedge]

Beautiful world creation but god damn the combat lmao

[hallow shadow]

The writing was hilarious.

What? Did you just not understand any of it?

[neon schooner]

Me watching conversation about RPGs when I hate this genre:

[cobalt fiber]

I understood it fine

I just thought it was shite

[hallow shadow]

Hm.

[cobalt fiber]

Obsidian also piggy back off their NV success as shown in most of their marketing

A game which was not even completely theirs

[dreamy dagger]

Bro, Gamma is epic. Done few quests already.

[weary hedge]

Fallout has always just been okay. The tactical ones is where it shined

[hallow shadow]

That. Most people give Obsidian too much credit for New Vegas.
Bethesda did most of the work for them.

[cobalt fiber]

Yeah lol

[dreamy dagger]

Fallout is for gays

[cyan sparrow]

What!? xD

[cobalt fiber]

It really shouldn’t be a huge part of their marketing

[dreamy dagger]

GAMMA FOR DAYS

[cobalt fiber]

Like don’t get me wrong I can play OW start to finish and have a decent enough time

[weary hedge]

I’d honestly rather play gamma than fallout 4 and I loved that game on release

[cobalt fiber]

But it could have been a lot more

[neon schooner]

Nah, I'm gay and I disprove this

[hallow shadow]

Never played gamma. I just talk shit.

I play FO4. But by “play” I mean “scroll through mod menu and remember why I hated that game”

[cobalt fiber]

I finished FO4 once and have attempted playthroughs since

Can’t see them through

[weary hedge]

The mods are chopped for that game. Half the shit is gooner slop and the other half will crash ur shit lmao

[cobalt fiber]

There’s a settlement mod with professional VAs which is decent

[hallow shadow]

I’m on a server where the folks helped make the Unofficial Patch.

So like. They help me with my LO all the time.

[charred nova]

well they did completely make it

but there 2 most universally loved games

were made when i was 2 years old and when i was 7

[cobalt fiber]

Interplay Fallouts were the best ones

[hallow shadow]

Someone taught the “I’d rather stare at a girls ass” folks how to make mods.
Now here we are.

[cobalt fiber]

Sadly the thing is

Next ES will suck

As will FO5

[weary hedge]

It’s so fucking cursed bro😭

[hallow shadow]

Yup.

[cobalt fiber]

Starfield is living proof that Bethesda have dropped the ball completely

[hallow shadow]

Because the Bethesda fanboys eat it all up.
The Oblivion remaster was a test, and nostalgia made us fail.

[cobalt fiber]

I tried to give that shit a good chance too

A few times

But the characters are so bad

The quests are even worse

[hallow shadow]

I regret preordering the fancy-bish version of Starfield.

[charred nova]

i mean this is like a lot of games imbr

[cobalt fiber]

I did too

For early access lol

[charred nova]

go look at terraria textures packs

[hallow shadow]

SAAAME

[charred nova]

with the nsfw filter turned off on workshop

and sort by popular

and you will be very dissapointed

[hallow shadow]

It was a birthday gift to myself. I hated it.

[cobalt fiber]

I really did give it a good go like

40 hours or so

But it was just really bad

[hallow shadow]

Just like that Starship Troopers game. Extermination?
Hotdog water

[weary hedge]

This generation is cooked

[cobalt fiber]

The only good thing about starfield was the Vanguard quest line

And even that wasn’t great

[hallow shadow]

The only good thing about Starfield was the Half-Life references at the end of the game.
And the other callouts to better scifi inspiration.
Best part of Starfield was where it came from.

[strong onyx]

There's good things about Starfield? Press X to doubt.

[neon schooner]

Did someone say half life?

HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED

[hallow shadow]

Nae. Simidah

[strong onyx]

Back to your cave, no half like 3 yet.

[weary hedge]

When is subnautica 2 dropping

[charred nova]

likely never

[neon schooner]

I NEED IT AGHHHH

[charred nova]

the studio got totally fucked over by the publisher

[weary hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-gif-20014225

[strong onyx]

2026 Early Access.

[neon schooner]

Guys I tell you half life 3 is.... Half life 3

[charred nova]

and now they are cooked up in a multi million lawsuit over illegal termination

[weary hedge]

I seen that

[neon schooner]

It's gonna be a huge miracle if the game turns out to be at least decent

[weary hedge]

I need it

[neon schooner]

I love Subnautica and it's sad to see what's happening to the devs

[strong onyx]

Same.

[strong onyx]

...which is?

[weary hedge]

I like what they are doing with it. Here’s hoping it doesn’t run like shit

[hallow shadow]

If Ranni is a Lunar Princess, and the Moon only comes out at night. And night is dark, and darkness is the absence of light. And darkness is black. And the moonlight altar is on a plateau, and a plateau is just a mesa. Half life 3 confirmed.

[strong onyx]

Shouldn't.

[mint thunder]

strelok🗿

[sacred cedar]

Lol whatever they deserve it, subnautica is mid as hell

[neon schooner]

Their entire leadership team was replaced just to avoid 250 million payout which they will have to pay anyway at this point

[hallow shadow]

Helldivers Mission Objectives are so funny, dude.
“Destroy Socialist Industry”

[neon schooner]

I will absolutely destroy everything and everyone in your life for these words

[strong onyx]

I'm not sure most of their developers care.

[neon schooner]

;3

[sacred cedar]

Cry me a river lol
Lmao even

[strong onyx]

They wouldn't see that money anyway.

[charred nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/695870515092389948/1083771364818813088/caption.gif

[weary hedge]

Democracy at its finest

[neon schooner]

Well then why'd they delay the release

[proven hollow]

eww socialists

[sacred cedar]

I don't like you either yet you're here yapping away it's a free country

[mint thunder]

anyone else like using the Texan 😁

[hallow shadow]

I’m hot-dropping on Fury, right now.
Looks like Mustafar down here.
Time to spill some oil
Woe, Democracy upon the Sparkjaws

[strong onyx]

Because it's Krafton.

[weary hedge]

Subnautica series has always been a passion product. They had and probably still have a lot of good employees who take their work seriously

[sacred cedar]

It's literally the best shotgun in the game so probably a lot of people

[strong onyx]

There was no way they were going to pay out $250 million as a bonus lol.

[mint thunder]

hell yeah brother

[charred nova]

its not the best lmao

siaga way better

[mint thunder]

ayy cheezits

[neon schooner]

I hope those employees won't burn out or something

[strong onyx]

They almost went out of bussiness making the first game.

[sacred cedar]

It's not, saiga is just semi auto which is easier for people to use

[weary hedge]

The new planets look fucking awesome

[sacred cedar]

You get better bang for buck with the Texan it you can aim fast

[charred nova]

whos aiming down sights with a shot gun

[hallow shadow]

Literal Star Wars Episode 3 lookin shit, dude.

Anakin Vs Obiwan is literally going down, 2 klicks east.

[strong onyx]

so anyway, i just started blasting.

[sacred cedar]

People who don't have a hard time with it

[strong onyx]

skill issue then

[hallow shadow]

Your shotguns have sights?

Mine just has a funny bead on the end of the barrel.
Good luck, lol

[sacred cedar]

All weapons have iron sights

[charred nova]

the saiga can kill faster than the texans cus it fires faster

[dreamy dagger]

So I started blasting

[strong onyx]

you wanna talk about shotguns, that new helldivers shotgun is hilarious.

[weary hedge]

So glad that game did well. I know the 2nd one gets a lot of shade for valid reasons but I still found it very enjoyable. It was more of a dlc than anything tho

[hallow shadow]

Doom Slayer’s “Double Freedom”

[sacred cedar]

Lol lmao even

[strong onyx]

theyre gonna nerf it for sure

[dreamy dagger]

SO I STARTED BLASTING

[hallow shadow]

That shotgun is absolutely Cake

[dreamy dagger]

So I just started blasting

[strong onyx]

maxigun needs a buff, still great though.

[hallow shadow]

Dropping anything with that thing. It’s stupid.

[strong onyx]

maxigun > shotgun cause cool factor

[hallow shadow]

I hate the One-Two.
Maxigun, I haven’t tried.

[dreamy dagger]

Cant you let me keep blasting?

[charred nova]

if you wanna argue it kinda sucks because it has to be repaired every 150 shots or so that is a fair argument

[hallow shadow]

Wish One-Two was Medium Pen. Makes no sense.

[strong onyx]

it needs 1,000 rounds instead of 750, and 250 pickups instead of 200.

[weary hedge]

The mini gun looks fun

[strong onyx]

I think I still prefer my stalwart

[hallow shadow]

The GL is lackluster, and customization lacks.
One-Two is a shit gun.

[strong onyx]

stalwart my beloved.

[hallow shadow]

I’m still rocking Autocannon or MG40

[dreamy dagger]

Shut up, jackass

[strong onyx]

I havent used the auto cannon in over a year.

[sacred cedar]

It doesn't suck the Texan is just better, not only has it better base stats in accuracy and range but it's also easier to fully upgrade because of the schematics r

[hallow shadow]

Stalwart goes hard.
Reminds me of my old SAW

[weary hedge]

It’s still a fun gun to use. But it’s hard to beat the coyote

[strong onyx]

Stalwart + Erupter on Illuminate fucks.

[hallow shadow]

I lower the ROF, to raise accuracy.
It shreds

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/starship-troopers-paul-verhoeven-robert-heinlein-buenos-aires-kill-them-all-gif-23642456

[strong onyx]

You don't even ened anti-tank on illuminate.

[charred nova]

oh im talking about the one thats found in the locked door in Pripyat if you have the dlc

that one has better stats

[strong onyx]

erupter can take care of everything by itself if you can aim.

[hallow shadow]

I haven’t bought that Bond. I still use the Liberator Penetrator

[strong onyx]

I own all of them but like 3 😮

[dreamy dagger]

Guys, he got penetrated!

[strong onyx]

you can penetrate deez nuts

[weary hedge]

Did they ever buff the halo guns? I’ve been wanting to use the AR again but damn was it dookie

[charred nova]

lets open stalker 2 and check

[hallow shadow]

Yeah. The SMG and Pistol got buffed.

[strong onyx]

They reworked most of the weapons in the game a few patches ago but yes.

[charred nova]

i just gotta be careful what i show lol

[dreamy dagger]

Always thought Mewtwo is straight.Turnsout he's not!

[hallow shadow]

I regularly SC Farm with the SMG. Keeps me hidden.

[strong onyx]

the game is also 23GB on PC instead of 153GB which is nice.

[weary hedge]

Bout damn time

[sacred cedar]

Even then the Texan has better stats, and since the margach is a dlc only weapon not everyone can use it

[hallow shadow]

At close range, the Halo SMG will absolutely destroy most anything with low armor.

Durable Damage got buffed, too. It’s deadlier than it was.

[sacred cedar]

So purely statistically speaking the Texan is by far the best shotgun in the game with more usage then the magarch

[charred nova]

12 round mag or 20 round drum that you can just dump into any high health mutant super fast wins out for me still

[hallow shadow]

Eh. I feel like Texan burns more rounds.

[strong onyx]

https://i.imgur.com/xDTVXRU.png

wild.

[charred nova]

simply can kill way faster

[sacred cedar]

You have to find the drum mag first while you get 12 in the Texan out of the bag

[charred nova]

you find the texans in the same place you find the drum mag

pripyat

[sacred cedar]

I never felt the need to replace my Texan with the saiga on stalker difficulty when the game came out

[charred nova]

well theres your issue

stalker difficulty

[sacred cedar]

There was no master difficulty

[charred nova]

there was veteran

[sacred cedar]

Is veteran above stalker?

[strong onyx]

I still play on stalker but I use mods to balance it out.

[charred nova]

yes

[sacred cedar]

Was veteran the highest difficulty? Whatever the highest was I played that and I was fine using the Texan

[strong onyx]

OK, time for some horizon zero dawn. 👋

[dreamy dagger]

Anyone who plays anything less than Master is gay

[strong onyx]

master is broken with mods so i cant play it

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/rafael-barba-svu-law-and-order-thats-all-you-got-gif-16299027

[strong onyx]

@charred nova is there a level role above the purple one?

[charred nova]

i forgot i was messing around with a mod that let me apply every upgrade

lol

[charred nova]

yes 2

orange and yellow

[strong onyx]

wtf

whats the requires level 5000?

[charred nova]

uh no

level 50

[dreamy dagger]

@charred nova What is the required level to join the Krezzined Stalkers faction?

[charred nova]

but im looking at it right now

the siaga and the texan basically have the same stats

the texan does a tiny bit more damage

and handling on a shot gun literally doesn't matter

[hallow shadow]

Until you’re handling a shotgun.

[dreamy dagger]

So I started blasting

[dreamy dagger]

SO I STARTED BLASTING

[charred nova]

maybe in real life lol

[hallow shadow]

I’m a little dude. Shotguns are something I’m picky about.

[weary hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/plants-vs-zombies-pvz-zombie-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-gif-gif-8558923502871636224

[shell flax]

The DP-12 is massive irl for a bullpup shotgun as well so you’d be a bit clunkier handling it if we went with real life physics

Also heavy as shit since it can hold 12, 14 or 16 shells depending on which one you buy

Like it’s over 10 lbs fully loaded lmao

[weary hedge]

Honestly such a sick gun

[umbral lodge]

So since I started over I found a gp37 in the lesser zone

I think the game wants me to use it after I talked smack about it the other day

[cerulean crane]

hi everyone!

[weary hedge]

https://stdgun.com/dp-12-generation-ii-double-barrel-pump-shotgun-flat-dark-earth/

[shell flax]

One gun I fully intend to grab IRL just for the sheer fun factor of firing off so much twelve gauge

[cerulean crane]

i am new and wondering how to best catch artifacts? when i carefully try to get close to them, they jump away again

[weary hedge]

16 hundred and it’s urs

[sacred cedar]

Open console
Type in tgm
And just in there and left click easy peasy

[shadow token]

Hello, there is a bug at the moment making artifact spawn under terrain, take a look at this message maybe it helps #☢┃stalker-general message

[shell flax]

My LGS has em online for twelve hundred

[cyan sparrow]

They still looking underground after all those artifacts?

[proven hollow]

bruh even GSC can't find them anymore

[cerulean crane]

for me it doesn't seem to be underground, it just keeps jumping away

[cyan sparrow]

I meant gsc

[cerulean crane]

i don't use console(-mod)

[shadow token]

yeah, i think this is normal behaviour maybe due to anomalyes interaction with the thing you throw to trigger anomalies

[cyan sparrow]

You should jump after them, you know how to jump in the game yes?

[dreamy dagger]

Double Penetrator 12?!

[cerulean crane]

and land into an anomaly? 😄 or was it sarcasm? 😄

[sacred cedar]

Don't be a pussy bro just grab that thang and use a medkit

[cyan sparrow]

You need to do agile jumping

[sacred cedar]

Be a man!

[weary hedge]

Hell yeah. I’ve been wanting to get my hands on an MP5 PDW

[shell flax]

My LGS had a USP for sale at 700 too one day and all I could do was walk away sad as hell because I’m broke

[cyan sparrow]

and each time when you see a Monolith, throw a bolt in their head; you will hear a strange echo..

[weary hedge]

Damnnn, gotta get some bread for the fancy toys

I really wanna shoot a thumper but damn they are hard to find

[shell flax]

My store has a full auto saw you can rent, fire off 60 round belts

I also saw a Mark 23 there (USPs big brother) and i had to laugh at how cartoonishly massive of a hand gun it is

[weary hedge]

Yeah that gun is goofy. I dislike big handguns. I like em versatile and silent

Good ol glock gets the name across

[shell flax]

They have a lot of used guns there for sale

Surprisingly mainly H&K

[shadow token]

Gsc what about some christmas gif as a new gun

[shell flax]

I saw a used Tavor 7 there and I nearly said ‘Screw it buying this thing’

[weary hedge]

H&K sells a lot of good guns. I like em

[cyan sparrow]

I did order art book, someone told me that index need to be read only with psi block

[shadow token]

Idk but probably some vodka would help

[cyan sparrow]

I’m teetotaler, i can only medicine

[shell flax]

The day the G36 comes to the states is the day I go into debt

[shadow token]

Hk416>m4

[smoky hawk]

have you ever bought a hk gun?

[dreamy dagger]

The day I die is the day this server celebrates?!?!?!?

[weary hedge]

I own several handguns, 2 rifles and a shotgun made by em

[smoky hawk]

irl?

[dreamy dagger]

I own youu

[weary hedge]

Nah stalker 2 🤣

Yes

[dreamy dagger]

I OWN YOU

[kindred fable]

OP3 for S2 made by everybody around the world when

[sacred cedar]

You can't own people no more man, good old times are over

[hallow shadow]

Dang.

[cyan sparrow]

He own gamma

[hallow shadow]

That escalated quickly

[cyan sparrow]

So he is a bit confused

[hallow shadow]

Who would wanna own Gamma?

[cyan sparrow]

Krezzin

[hardy totem]

-# gog

[hallow shadow]

Oh. Yeah.
That makes sense.

[vapid galleon]

get gog'd

[hardy totem]

https://tenor.com/view/yıldızlı-gece-van-gogh-starry-night-painting-gif-12985322092049114307

[vapid galleon]

get Gogh'd

[vapid galleon]

no one because I can download it for free in Github

[cyan sparrow]

Wait, GitHub including content owns Microslop

I mean Microsoft

[hallow shadow]

These new Helldivers Lava Worlds effing suuuuuuck

This suuuuuucks! Ruuuun The Bot Drop is coming!