☢┃stalker-general

[fickle hill]

Whats sad is all that water has every ore type mixed into it

[static lark]

Actually it’s like 3 towns

[charred nova]

Wiki says it’s contents include my favorite metal

Arsenic

YUMMY

[static lark]

I thought arsenic was a gas

[charred nova]

No

It’s a metal

If it was a gas you could depopulate entire cities with it in hours

[fickle hill]

Yeah really

[charred nova]

Fun fact most modern electronics contain arsenic

[static lark]

But yeah they built a dam on a river and kinda just didn’t warn anyone down river so 3 towns just got drowned

[charred nova]

It’s used a doping material for ion implanting

[static lark]

1920s Deep South in America hijinks 👍

[charred nova]

Oops

I’m very sorry for killing all those people

We won’t do it again

[static lark]

Spoiler alert
|| they did it again…. A lot of times ||

[charred nova]

Who could have seen this coming

My towns claim to fame in granite stone mines

There are massive open pit mines now lakes all over the place

[hoary crest]

Similar story where im at

They look nice and idyllic for a swim, till you realise how deep they are

Or you know, residual chemicals in the water

[static lark]

The town I grew up in was originally in the 1890s a railroad town (the railroad was founded by a confederate officer) and then in the 1920s they decided a nearby river would look better as a lake so they built a fat dam and drowned 3 other towns under the new man made lake and then kinda just became a lake town

[fickle hill]

Nothing like digging for netherite in real life and the blocks they used to cover the water leaks rotted away

[static lark]

It’s a big… big ahh lake though

[charred nova]

They stopped the mines in the 1930s when the Scandinavian migrants decided they would no longer work for 75 cents a day

[static lark]

Sounds like communism

[charred nova]

Well unlike other types of mines

The margins for granite are kinda low

[static lark]

You’ll work for your barely livable wages and you’ll like it

[charred nova]

So once they needed a livable wage the gig was up

[charred nova]

Well they were mostly tricked into doing it

Because they didn’t speak English

[static lark]

Yeah nah most the people who founded my town weren’t immigrants or anything… mostly just defeated confederates who decided making a railway hub would be the easiest thing to do

Then they drowned 3 towns. One of the towns had a gold mine so I assume under the lake there’s some gold somewhere

[charred nova]

It’s time to get rich

[static lark]

I’m not diving to the bottom of a lake to go INSIDE a probably collapsed gold mine that’s also probably full of people who drowned 100 years ago

They can keep the gold

[hoary crest]

No balls

[fickle hill]

There would be nothing like the titanic just clothes no bones

[charred nova]

Fuck those guys it’s my gold now

[hallow shadow]

Gold doesn’t even back our economy, anyway.

The gold standard died a while ago.

[charred nova]

So what

[static lark]

The titanic is in salt water

[hallow shadow]

Literal “worth” is straight up just made up.

[hoary crest]

I dont think any country uses the gold standard anymore

[charred nova]

Rather my government made it up then crypto bros

[static lark]

This is just a salt water lake idk what water does to dead bodies

[hoary crest]

Inflation made that inherently unsustainable

[hallow shadow]

That’s the same thing.

One is just tangible.
Both are artificial.

[fickle hill]

If that's what you believe then bring the dead and bury them properly

[static lark]

I didn’t drown the towns under the lake

[charred nova]

Idk those people

[hoary crest]

Ah yes, digging up a mass grave to make a mass grave

[charred nova]

Yah I’m in the mass grave digging business

[static lark]

I’m not touching those bodies they can stay there

[charred nova]

[fickle hill]

Yeah we gotta do a crate opening

[charred nova]

Trust me every time there’s a new dictator in town business is booming

[static lark]

That is quite literally NOT my job

[charred nova]

Cracker Jacks mass grave digging company

[hallow shadow]

Only if you do your own quality assurance.

[charred nova]

Oh we do

We even offer confirmed kill checks

Were we will shoot every corpse in the head one more time just to make sure there dead

Extra 5000 dollars though

[hallow shadow]

Ah. You’re one of those.

[static lark]

Look… I’m not for drowning multiple towns for the advancement of the local economy…. BUT

[fickle hill]

[hallow shadow]

BUT, parts of Florida can go.

[charred nova]

I just offer a service

It’s quite morally grey really

[hallow shadow]

Much like a landlord, huh?
It’s not morally grey.

It’s profiting off of death.

But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night?

[fickle hill]

Something has to pay the bills

[static lark]

Why should the dead care if I’m profiting off of death… they’re dead

[charred nova]

I got a family to feed and cars to buy

I didn’t kill the people

[hallow shadow]

Sounds Israeli.

[static lark]

(These are not the actual views that I hold this is all satire)

[charred nova]

I just buried them

[hallow shadow]

I bet, kiddo.

[charred nova]

Well if I killed them that would be unethical

Too much paper work really

[hallow shadow]

Yeah. You’re one of those.

[charred nova]

I’m just a morally grey business man

What you want from me

[static lark]

Capitalism is fueled by the innovation of communities (crimes unto humanity but at least we’re richer)

[hallow shadow]

There’s no such thing as a morally grey business man.

[static lark]

I love capitalism

[hallow shadow]

NECESSITY breeds innovation

Or are you about to tell me that the Wheel and Fire were made/discovered because of a profit motive?

[fickle hill]

at the end of the day if none one then who will?

[charred nova]

I mean you could

[hallow shadow]

You would be wrong.

[static lark]

Exactly WE HAD TO DROWN THOSE 3 TOWNS

IT WAS A NECESSITY

[charred nova]

Perhaps man invented the wheel so he could move more bread to his stall

And thus sell more bread

[hallow shadow]

NEVCESSARY FOR MAH WALLET

[charred nova]

Those bitches had it coming

[static lark]

Those women and children had it coming

[charred nova]

Someone should have checked there hard drives

They were probably bad people

[hallow shadow]

The look on a capitalist’s face, when I bang their wife without a profit motive.

[static lark]

I will say… at least capitalism works

[charred nova]

Yah I banged there mom with a profit motive

When they give up in despair

I get there house

Massive W

[hallow shadow]

It works the way it is intended, and must be destroyed.

[charred nova]

Try harder next time kid looks like your going back to the battle bus

[weary hedge]

I smell communism in the air

[hallow shadow]

I smell misconceptions and brainwash. But I’m not complaining.

[static lark]

Just a reminder the dude who theorized communism was forced out of his home nation and died in the birthplace of capitalism

[hallow shadow]

Capitalists have you convinced the wrong people are lazy.

Much like a landlord is the same as the guy who buys all the Xbox’s in a store, and sells them back to the community at a mark up.

Capitalism.

[fickle hill]

As the harworking american who cleans after day to day karens I can agree

[still current]

Your artifact

[static lark]

Hello almighty moderator

[still current]

Hi

[static lark]

How come you guys get fancy names

[still current]

Wdym?

[charred nova]

The lazy bed blobs who won’t work at mc Donald’s are lesser than I am

That’s true

[static lark]

Shiny

[charred nova]

Those people are parasites

GET A FUCKEN JOB

[weary hedge]

America is full of them and they eat up our tax funds and complain about everything 😂

[hallow shadow]

“Get a job”
-Some Discord Mod

[still current]

Ah, we got the gradient feature on board.

[static lark]

Everyone should have a job

[charred nova]

I have a job

https://tenor.com/view/1984-george-orwell-george-orwell-1984-1984-chips-1984-ruffles-gif-7144052804264359069

[hallow shadow]

Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital.

[charred nova]

I’d be doing it right now

[hallow shadow]

Up until recent human history, humans had always been able to enjoy the full fruits of their labor.

[charred nova]

But I’ve been waiting 4 hours for someone else to do their job

So I’m not making much progress

[fickle hill]

Oh that's discords recent update where roles can shift between 2 colors

[hallow shadow]

The new gradient names are kinda cool.
Not gonna lie.

[weary hedge]

Labor has been something we humans have done since the beginning of time. It’s how we develop😂

[still current]

The fuck you guys are on?

Go to Off-topic

[weary hedge]

Good question

[static lark]

Apparently we’re fighting the Cold War again

[weary hedge]

Russia needs it

[static lark]

I’m just gonna put in one small thing, for someone who’s so supportive of Ukraine you’ve really got a hard on for communism… something that Ukraine has banned

[fickle hill]

Then give us something to stay on topic

[still current]

https://tenor.com/view/i-want-problems-always-i-want-problems-always-gif-12394244509897766947

I don't like cold wars I want problems, always

[static lark]

Guns

[charred nova]

Guns

Where is the wa2000 in stalker 2

[weary hedge]

Stalker lore

[hallow shadow]

Those are parroted talking points.
Maybe ask some Ukrainians who read, know, and lived history.

Communism ≠ Soviet Union.

[static lark]

The same place it is in real life…. Museums cause it’s goofy

[still current]

Lazy it's not like you're gonna leave the continent haha it's literally one click #💬┃en_offtop

[hallow shadow]

WA2000 is a classic.

I miss Rainbow Six Rogue Spear

[fickle hill]

[still current]

But well, keep going on guns

[charred nova]

Most Ukrainians in this server would bite your head off for even suggesting communism or socialism

[hallow shadow]

Sure.

[charred nova]

Yah my museum in the zone

[static lark]

We need more bullpups

[shell flax]

TS12 shotgun

[charred nova]

I like the one you suggested

[static lark]

And more goofy Soviet weapons

[charred nova]

It’s really cool

[weary hedge]

Rightfully so. Russia does some sickening things. But anyways I should stop talking about this. Anyone else love what they did with spark in s2

[charred nova]

No

Spark sucks

[weary hedge]

Lame

[static lark]

I don’t even know sparks purpose I’m just siding with them cause I blame Ward for killing Noon

[fickle hill]

They're never in one place minus the bartender in malachite

[hallow shadow]

Spark is the Shining Zone folks.

[charred nova]

https://tenor.com/view/roleism-roleist-purple-role-kenjaku-gif-6349955512647677456

[static lark]

Yeah idk what that means

[hallow shadow]

Turn the whole WORLD into the Zone.

[static lark]

I agree with this

[weary hedge]

To find the "Shining Zone" and/or make the Zone a more hospitable place, potentially through tampering with the Noosphere. They are essentially a faction of stalkers who follow Scar's vision of the Zone, which is the opposite of the "Dark Side" of the Zone. They also assist scientists at Malachite with their research.

[hallow shadow]

But that’s communism.

[static lark]

No the whole world being the zone is just making everywhere have cool shit

[charred nova]

That’s the skif ending

[static lark]

The traders being in the zone is capitalism, they use their skills and tools and goods to sell for their own personal gain

[charred nova]

Scars ending is he dooms everyone in the zone to die

[static lark]

Based

[weary hedge]

Angry merc boyo

[static lark]

So basically the 2 main faction endings are just screwing everyone in the zone

[hallow shadow]

You’re conflating commerce with capitalism.

SIRCAA is capitalist.
Warlock and Hamster are trying to survive.

Different.

[static lark]

Alright ig I’m pulling out the definition of communism rq

[charred nova]

This mentally ill losers baby raged so hard he killed a 100k people FIND OUT HOW NOW

[static lark]

Capitalism is an economic system where private individuals or corporations own the means of production, and where goods and services are produced and distributed for profit, often through competition in a free market. It is characterized by private ownership, free markets, and profit-seeking as the primary drivers of economic activity

Communism is a socioeconomic and political ideology advocating for a classless society where the means of production are owned and controlled by the community as a whole, rather than by private individuals or the state. It envisions a society without private property, social classes, money, or the state, and where resources are distributed based on need

[charred nova]

Shut up about this

[weary hedge]

gg easy better luck next time😘

[charred nova]

We are killing all communists

End of story

Anyway

[hallow shadow]

I’m so glad you believe everything the internet tells you.

[charred nova]

Back on topic

[static lark]

The traders are practicing capitalism in the zone

[fickle hill]

Night vision

[charred nova]

Night vision muh balls

[static lark]

I hope we get to see some “ancient” variants by that I mean like late 60s versions

[shell flax]

Red NVGs that make you hallucinate

[weary hedge]

X-ray vision so I can look at richters juicy cheeks

[static lark]

Yeah basically

[fickle hill]

Blue night vision all the way

[charred nova]

My dad actually got invited to an military tech demo sorta of thing

He got to try out one of the first colored night vision googles

[fickle hill]

Will he run the pinkies

[static lark]

Give me AN/PVS-5

[hallow shadow]

Black/White Hot

I prefer thermal.

[static lark]

Just cause they look cool

[charred nova]

Apparently the military wasn’t interested due to its insane price but he said it worked surprisingly well

Well one of them

2 companies had a pair

[fickle hill]

Man

[charred nova]

One he said was awesome the other was apparently awful

[static lark]

I’d buy NVGs irl if the good ones didn’t cost what a brand new car costs

[hallow shadow]

First thing I did with NVGs was look up at the stars.
Like an idiot.

[charred nova]

I think the good color nvgs cost north of 100k per unit

[hallow shadow]

Opohhh. Aaaahhhh

[static lark]

Exactly

[hallow shadow]

Get a job.

[static lark]

You could get the 4 tubed ones for like 40k

[charred nova]

I’m not spending 100k on some cool googles

[hallow shadow]

Brokie

[charred nova]

I’d spend that on a rx7

[static lark]

I have a job… I just fr don’t need goggles that make me see in the dark

[hallow shadow]

Unemployed excuses.

Being like my hero, Jack.

[charred nova]

I’d have enough for a rx7 and have enough left over for a sti

I’d be winning

[static lark]

You realize night vision companies aren’t directly targeting civilians as their primary customers…

[charred nova]

I am a hero

[hallow shadow]

And then you wake up

[charred nova]

Thanks for boosting my Ego

[still current]

Real or fake

[static lark]

They’re targeting like… security agencies, militaries, police forces

[hallow shadow]

Then why does some civi want them?

Go join up. See what they’re like. Get some NVGs

[static lark]

Which would make NVGs extremely rare in the zone tbh, only IPSF and maybe Ward would have the new models

[static lark]

Cause I think they’re neat not cause I need them

[hallow shadow]

Then go buy one.

[hoary crest]

Just as well I signed on with IPSF then innit 😄

[static lark]

Same with the guns I own… I don’t need my guns I just think they’re neat

[hallow shadow]

Basic consumer behavior.

[static lark]

Don’t you sell welded metal trees?

[charred nova]

I do

[hallow shadow]

Yeah. That’s called commerce.

[charred nova]

I sell those trees from the loreaxe

[static lark]

Your entire business model depends on privately controlling the means of production… which is capitalism

[hallow shadow]

I don’t own the steel I use.

[static lark]

So you’re stealing

[hallow shadow]

I have to buy it.

[static lark]

Ok then you buy the steel from the person who owns it transporting that capital to you where you use it to make a product which you then sell for money

[charred nova]

Shut up

[static lark]

Yes sir

[charred nova]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-george-orwell-george-orwell-1984-1984-chips-1984-ruffles-gif-7144052804264359069

No more talk about this

[hallow shadow]

Good boy

[charred nova]

Any more economic theory and I’m gonna become mao and send you all to gulag

[static lark]

I mean at least I actually know the definition of the thing I’m defending

But you know we won’t talk about that ANYWAYYYYYY

@charred nova Why do you like the hellion/VHS-2 idea so much?

Technically it is just the Fora Reskinned, I suppose it might be better at range and it would spawn 5.56 instead of 5.45

[charred nova]

It just looks really cool

[static lark]

Makes sense

[hoary crest]

I have to agree, its a very cool looking gun

[static lark]

Too bad it probably wouldn’t be that great in game

Cause GSC hates 5.56 for some reason

[hoary crest]

I mean.. The Carmel is pretty decent under vanilla balancing

Thats 5.56

[static lark]

200+ AP rounds to kill chimera

[hoary crest]

🤷‍♂️ Download a rebalance mod then

[static lark]

I don’t care enough I just use the Dnipro cause it’s broken for no reason

Idk why it’s called the Malyuk irl cause iirc Malyuk means something like baby

[hoary crest]

If you care about DPS, you'd probably use the VSS with 'stendo mag, but it is what it is

[static lark]

I don’t put my AR on full auto

[shell flax]

Why in gods green earth are you using an AR on a chimera

[charred nova]

Like it looks like a hk416 as a bull pup

Which is kinda sick

[static lark]

I just semi them till they die

[static lark]

Arena.

[charred nova]

[hallow shadow]

That’s a worthy bullpup.

[static lark]

I like that it has the goofy charging handle in the carry handle

[hoary crest]

Its like a FAMAS.. if the FAMAS wasnt janky as all hell

When do we get G3 anyway?

[static lark]

It’s like the FAMAS but better cause it doesn’t have a 3rnd burst with a mag capacity that isn’t divisible by 3

[shell flax]

Give me a Tavor 7 for .308 I say again

[static lark]

What French guy was like “let’s make a 3 round burst rifle and give it a 25 round mag”

[hoary crest]

It was a Frenchman, what did you expect? 😄

[hallow shadow]

The French go hard.

[static lark]

The trigger guard is also neat looking

[hoary crest]

I'm not allowed to admit that, because British (they do)

[hallow shadow]

I wouldn’t be able to call myself American, if it weren’t for the French.

Americans, hating on the French, lack self awareness

[static lark]

I also like the HK looking fire selector

[hallow shadow]

Marquis de Sade?
Wrote the book on fkn.

[static lark]

Also CLEAR MAGS clear mags are cool more guns should have clear mags

[unkempt vault]

I just got to that fight

[charred nova]

aren’t they like prone to cracking

[unkempt vault]

I had to load back because sleeping killed a timer on a quest in another area so I have to do the fight all over again

[static lark]

You use like 200 rounds, I couldn’t get the cheat gun cause the dude didn’t spawn

[fickle hill]

Fun fact you can see the ammunition on clipped mags if like the G36

[static lark]

I know like early transparent mags had issues but I don’t see why clear polymer would be worse than black or any other colored polymer

[unkempt vault]

My game is just chugging for no reason

[unkempt vault]

Well A. it’s plastic
B. It’s plastic
C. It’s plastic
And D. It’s plastic

[static lark]

Also this is an actual Croatian one and it has an HK G36 type of mag where it can clip to another mag which is cool, the ones that Springfield Armory sells in America just come with Magpul P-Mags

[unkempt vault]

I don’t get the appeal of stanag

[charred nova]

Fair

[static lark]

Stanag are the metal ones, P-Mags are polymer ones

[unkempt vault]

Oh

[static lark]

Yeah Stanags are awesome

[unkempt vault]

[static lark]

I also like P-Mags though cause they’re lighter

[still current]

[static lark]

The Springfield ones are literally exactly the same though except iirc they’re made in America and the only difference is instead of having the Croatian markings it has Springfield markings

They’re cool I’m gonna buy one at some point soon

[charred nova]

Based

[static lark]

It has a full length of 29.75 inches
A normal AR15 with a full length barrel is 36 inches so you’re 6.25 inches shorter which is nice

[charred nova]

We need it in stalker 2

[static lark]

It’s not like it’s impossible

[charred nova]

Once the zone kit 2 drops

Gonna have to make commissions

[hallow shadow]

I hope Bruise gets fixed, sometime soon.

I’d really like to see what that guy has to sell.

No matter how I save-scum, he never becomes trade-able.

They’re Brood, anyway.

[unkempt vault]

I can’t even talk to the guy because he’s in combat constantly and the timer runs out

[hallow shadow]

It’s kinda sad.
He’s just kinda… There.

I haven’t had the heart to just outright murder him, yet.

I wonder if he has good loot..

[plain fiber]

What's up shitlords?

[timber crow]

Hey, do you know how ask-gsc question works? i asked question about 10 days ago, still no answer and today i see they asnwered questions related to roadmap, so these questions had to be asked yesterday

[rigid robin]

Maybe you should do something else

[plain fiber]

Questions don't always get answered, they pick and choose what's been submitted.

[weary hedge]

Bruh the gsc isn't answering none of my questions

[timber crow]

sad to hear, thought they care more

[weary hedge]

Nah and sheesh I feel like that's sarcasm

[echo nimbus]

They can't answer every question

[plain fiber]

They probably receive thousands of questions per day; it's not a matter of whether or not they care, it's a matter of how much time they have in the day, and what questions are most important and/or easiest to answer.

[weary hedge]

Srry tho ;-;

[plain fiber]

For what? My response was aimed at @timber crow.

[sick shale]

be it some of those questions they picked

[plain fiber]

Excuse me?

[sick shale]

to use a example

[weary hedge]

Damn I just feel bad for asking u ig

[sick shale]

the question "how do I select a role?" (roughly the quote)

[echo nimbus]

💀 that's insane lmao

[plain fiber]

Lol, that's not even worth GSC's time to answer. Go ask a moderator.

[sick shale]

get my point?

[plain fiber]

Yes.

[sick shale]

Suppose a question to ask next, wonder if we'll get a RPD in near esh future

[timber crow]

yeah, maybe they got a lot, and some are irrational and not worth to asnswer, but i expected some kind of queue. nvm anyways

[sick shale]

would enjoy a SAW style MG to go with the current GPMG we got

[plain fiber]

What was your question?

[timber crow]

related to game flora, and some of old zones, especially tree models

i feel like old zones, like kordon or agroprom lack some of old spirit, due to small and poor tree models, and was wondering if they ever are planning to add some more, or change them, like classic toplars along the kordon road

[plain fiber]

@waxen marten Mol1t, would you have an answer for them? ☝️

[timber crow]

i can paste whole question

[sick shale]

Would be interesting to get some more flora to change some of the vibe of each zone area

[timber crow]

whole question was:

As a long-time fan of your series since SoC, I truly love Stalker 2. While I believe many issues can be addressed over time, I do have one concern: are you planning to improve or modify the flora? Some of the new locations capture the Stalker atmosphere beautifully; however, I feel that several of the old zones have lost their distinctive style. This, I think, is mainly due to the current tree models. For instance, the main road in Cordon, the road in Agroprom, and the entrance to Sidorovich’s bunker in the earlier games all had a distinctly Slavic feel thanks to their iconic trees. At the moment, some of these areas feel underwhelming by comparison. Do you plan to add more variety in large trees, such as poplars?

[wooden walrus]

Truly callous of them to not address this very important concern right away

Mb for the ping, looks like discord was saving the @ from like 5 hours ago

[timber crow]

i mean i didnt expect answer right away, I'm just asking how question works

[sick shale]

np

[plain fiber]

Priority system basically. What can they answer quickly and easily, and is the question something that a lot of people care about?

[rigid robin]

It’s like they are at war or something

[plain fiber]

I think the company is a 50/50 split between their offices in Prague and Kyiv.

[fathom gate]

guys, is there a weapons specialist vendor in chemical factory? apart from ed? Ed is shit

[sick shale]

so a tech or a trader ya mean?

[fathom gate]

trader

[sick shale]

to memory only trader is outside with the guide

unless you count the doc

[fathom gate]

like in most locations so far I have seen 4 people. 1. food vendor, 2. medic, 3. weapons vendor and 4 tech. but in chemical plant I only see medic, food and tech

[sick shale]

in terms of 3

[weary hedge]

Ah man I wish it will tell me if it's coming to the ps plus subscription ;-;

[sick shale]

that tends towards general vendor, rostok is only ones with dedicated merchants towards certain things

[smoky hawk]

HA!

BROKE

[hoary crest]

Being 6.25 inches shorter is usually an issue 😏

[fathom gate]

hmm

[static lark]

When we’re talking about guns it’s a good thing

[weary hedge]

Bruh I don't need u to say that to me I am just to lazy to buy the actual game so don't be rude about it

[hoary crest]

😔

[smoky hawk]

HA! LAZY

go clean your room

[static lark]

It’s on Gamepass

[weary hedge]

-_-

[sick shale]

various of the general vendors sell both weapons and armor, such as hamster

[fathom gate]

I was about to say that

[weary hedge]

I ain't on Xbox anymore I switched consoles

[echo nimbus]

Gamepass 💀

[hoary crest]

Its not even out on PS yet is it?

[static lark]

Gamepass is great idk why people hate on it

[weary hedge]

Nope not until later on this year

[echo nimbus]

Cuz it's funny 😁

[smoky hawk]

its a mark of the beast
console player

[fathom gate]

weapon and armor yes mostly go together. but in chemical plant Ed only sells food but buys weapons also .. thats why he gives bad coupons

[plain fiber]

Why would you do that to yourself? Playstation has fallen way beyond Xbox and PC.

[static lark]

Did your father ever tell you he was proud of you

[sick shale]

in terms of dedicated you have ragman & eugene at Rostok for dedicated warsaw & nato weapon vendors respectively, than Branch if I recall is her name as the dedicated armor vendor, than you have the two barkeeps that sell various ammo & weapons in addition

[hoary crest]

No point in hating on gamepass, if you're gonna hate on anything, hate on consoles themselves 😄 Paying for the privilege of playing online when you already pay your ISP and what not 😄

[sick shale]

yeah, he is the bar keep

[weary hedge]

Because I need a damn break from xbox

[echo nimbus]

I hate on console as well

[smoky hawk]

as I was dropping slurs on mw4, a lot

[static lark]

Cause I’m proud of you.

[sick shale]

you can sell guns to barkeeps last I checked, be it at a reduced price (Similar for medics & the like)

[static lark]

Modern Warfare 4 isn’t a thing

[hoary crest]

MW4, pfft, you dunno the glory days of the OG MW2

[hallow shadow]

MW2 lobbies went hard.

[fathom gate]

yeah and I just reached chemical plant for the first time and havnt been to rostok yet. so most locations havnt opened yet. I am still early in story

[static lark]

Oh you mean CoD4

[hallow shadow]

Some of these folks probably weren’t born.

[sick shale]

ya know, I haven't kept up with COD much, but i expected if there was a BO6 we would be at like what, MW7?

[hoary crest]

They did, it was the shit back in the day

[smoky hawk]

yes, Cod4,MW somethinbg

[hoary crest]

Ok, based

[smoky hawk]

sorry?

[thorny shard]

anything new about the pre order packages?

[sick shale]

saw talk of MW, thought you meant Modern warfare

[hoary crest]

You can now upgrade

[thorny shard]

are they still arriving early 2026?

[static lark]

That is what he means

[smoky hawk]

wdym there is a BO6?
MW7?

you sound crazy

[static lark]

But not the new MWs they’re garbage (besides MW2019 it’s great)

[sick shale]

Ah, so ya know than the guy outside in the shack near a power station is the general merchant (with the guide toadstool)

[thorny shard]

i pre-ordered the game (with merch stuff)

[hoary crest]

Havent touched a CoD since Bo2, and nor will I ever, its just fifa tier slop nowdays

[sick shale]

correction, there is a black ops 7 coming out.

[hallow shadow]

There’s Modern Warfare, MW2, MW3, MW:Nostalgia, MW2:Nostalgia, and MW3: Nostalgia.

[fathom gate]

yeah I will probably not sell anything then until I open up the story more

[static lark]

MW2019 was great but that was the last good one

[hallow shadow]

All in one oversized launcher on console.

[smoky hawk]

?????

[sick shale]

Permission to drop a youtube link?

[hoary crest]

Tfw there is a Bloodsucker outside and an emmision going off D:

[smoky hawk]

you couldnt?

[hallow shadow]

Oh yeah, BO7 announced, in response to the BO6 Beta.

[fathom gate]

also what do you guy prefer more, Seva-D or Corundum suite?

[sick shale]

more asking permission

[static lark]

Falcon

[hoary crest]

Neither, PSZ-7

[hallow shadow]

As if CoD is gonna crawl out from under that one.

[sick shale]

https://youtu.be/EDun9xGz7Zk?si=nsPVVdQEd8cYeeBd

[smoky hawk]

its not gonna embed but you can

[sick shale]

This is the trailer for BO7 that I found by looking it up

[fathom gate]

I am guessing its an end game?

[hoary crest]

It is not, it's extremely early game 😄

[fathom gate]

really? I should find it then

[sick shale]

hmm, SEVA wise, I do V

[hallow shadow]

Gotta get you the PSZ-5V

[hoary crest]

If you care about statistics, it is not a good armour, I use it because it keeps the game hard

[hallow shadow]

In Garbage.

[sick shale]

SEVA-D & such can be found around some stashes

[fathom gate]

what do you mean?

[hoary crest]

I mean it has shit statistics, so you die fast when wearing it

[fathom gate]

I have Seva-D and COrundum but cant decide which one to upgrade and spend more coupons on

[sick shale]

(HG's brain got mixed up and reread this)

[hallow shadow]

laughs in Better Ballistics
We all die fast, now.

[sick shale]

Seva-D & corundum are different uses cases

[fathom gate]

haha mate then I will avoid it. I am new to stalker lol

[hallow shadow]

PSZ-5V

[hoary crest]

Yeah but like, I'm a literal one tap for anything bigger than a baby AK lmao

[hallow shadow]

Did you just start?

[sick shale]

the Seva series leans towards enviromental hazards, conrum (for however long you will want to wear that monsteriousity), is for direct combat

[hoary crest]

No, thats just the armour I choose to use to keep the difficulty up

[hallow shadow]

Ohhh.

[fathom gate]

hmm well I cant carry two suits haha so I have to pick one right?

[hoary crest]

It also has bad artifact slots, so no crutching on OP shit

[sick shale]

in terms of the options through, I would suggest you keep a eye out for the Seva-V, it is quite a nice one

[hallow shadow]

Dang. That’s some brave shit.
I couldn’t… Well… False.
I prefer speed and precision over bulk and power.

[static lark]

What faction uses the PSZ-9N Wolfhound?

[hoary crest]

Mercs iirc

[static lark]

I know the Falcon is Spark

[weary hedge]

Can't wait until stalker 2 comes out on PS5

[sick shale]

mercs

[hallow shadow]

I hope y’all get mod support, too.

[static lark]

What’s the Ward armor?

[hallow shadow]

I know PS likes to play fk-fk games with mods.

[sick shale]

convoy to memory

[hoary crest]

Operator Exo, can't member the name of the othe rone

[hallow shadow]

Just ask the Bethesda fans.

[sick shale]

operator is the exo version as paydirt said

[hoary crest]

Yeah, thats it, Convoy, can get that early too and iirc its pretty decent

[sick shale]

depending on path, you can get a free one prior to sircca

[hoary crest]

You can get a free one just after leaving the lesser zone

[sick shale]

for hardly going off the beaten path

[hoary crest]

Ye, just a bit of portal hopping

[static lark]

It’d be cool if Noon had armor other than the Zircon

Cause that’s the monolith armor

[plain fiber]

I hope we get radsuits for the other factions as well.

[hallow shadow]

This was a triumph,
I’m making a note, here,
Huge success.

It’s hard to overstate my satisfaction

APERTURE SCIENCE
we do what we must,
Because we can.

For the good of all of us

[static lark]

Zircon isn’t even that great

[plain fiber]

Except the ones who are dead.

[hallow shadow]

Except the ones who are dead.

Now there’s no use crying over every mistake.
You just keep on trying till you run out of cake

[hoary crest]

I mean, you can get Ecologist rad suit, an upgraded one depending on where you look

[hallow shadow]

And the science gets done,
And you make a neat gun

For the people who are
Still alive

[static lark]

I just hope Noontide comes back somehow

[plain fiber]

That's an SSP suit, not a radsuit. I'm talking about the suit that makes up the base of an exoskeleton, which is what the Corundum suit is.

[static lark]

No it’s not, the Corundum is the base of the Exos

[hoary crest]

Arent there already multiple versions of that?

[plain fiber]

Oh my bad, I'm getting my suits confused.

[hoary crest]

They're already a thing are they not?

[plain fiber]

Not as standalone suits no.

[hoary crest]

I think the Bulat is the one that makes up the Operator exo undersuit

[static lark]

The only thing the Zircon is is the base battle armor of Monolith and Noon

[plain fiber]

I think some NPCs have them, but not the player.

[plain fiber]

Well I'm talking about the radiation suit, not the PSZ suits that some exos use.

[hoary crest]

🤷‍♂️ I kinda figured the Corundum was just an extreme thing of its own

[static lark]

You can get the Corundum by itself but it also is the suit that the Exos are built off

Most of the exos at least some of them are other suits

[hoary crest]

The other exos are almost purpose designed and only a Monolith trooper is gonna run about in an non-powered set like that

Or you know, Skif

[static lark]

The Diamond is the monolith suit and it’s powered

[hoary crest]

There is the Ruby also

[static lark]

Yeah but who uses the Ruby?

[hoary crest]

P'sure that one is also Monolith

[hardy totem]

People with monolith brainrot

[static lark]

Yeah Ruby is also Monolith

And all of the Noon stuff is just stolen monolith stuffs

That’s why Noon is the best faction they have the best stuff

Too bad it’s all just stolen from Monolith

[plain fiber]

Not true, there are multiple instances of non-Monolith stalkers running around in suits like that. Beard is a prime example though there are many others as well.

[static lark]

Aren’t most the exo suits just like construction based

[plain fiber]

In S.T.A.L.K.E.R. I believe they were always meant for military use.

[static lark]

Not all of them, in SIRCAA at the Exo display they mention some of the suits were made for construction purposes

[plain fiber]

Or at least the ones we see in-game are.

That might be a retcon then? I think I remember dialogue or something mentioning that the exoskeletons in S.T.A.L.K.E.R were based off of a leaked military prototype or something.

In-universe mind you, not IRL.

[stuck seal]

Meant for military use, never given to the military

[static lark]

Idk I just know the exhibit at SIRCAA is glazing Dalin and mentions Exos made for construction use

[plain fiber]

Oh I'm sure that exos were made for construction use at some point, but from what I remember the exoskeletons we see and use in-game were always meant for military purposes.

[static lark]

No one glazes Dalin more than SIRCAA

[stuck seal]

Also it does indeed make sense that the exo is used for construction, because all the exo does is help in load bearing, that’s all the exoskeleton itself does

[plain fiber]

Yeah definitely, plus we see evidence that they can be setup to work with other suits too.

[static lark]

That’s kinda why we want them irl, so we can give troops more gear without it affecting their agility

[stuck seal]

The increased protection is provided by the body armor that comes with it but isn’t apart of it as we see that big vest with the exo is seen worn by NPCs without the exo

[plain fiber]

E.G. the Corundum suit.

[stuck seal]

People used to want them, they don’t anymore

[static lark]

I think the US is still trying to mess around with exos but it probably won’t go anywhere

[plain fiber]

If they do, it'll probably end up being more akin to a vehicle rather than something you "wear".

[static lark]

There’s not really a great way to power them without having a fat battery bank on your back, and then at that point the pros of a load bearing Exo kinda defeats its own purpose

[stuck seal]

But in stalker it works

[plain fiber]

I mean, I could see something like that be useful in urban warfare. Gain the utility of a vehicle while having (most) of the mobility of a foot soldier.

[stuck seal]

I have a feeling that the veterans for factions get exos because the armor they wear is so heavy that they need exos to be able to move around with such heavy armor

[static lark]

I mean from what i understand the military wasn’t trying to increase the strength or speed of soldiers with exos they just wanted to be able to give them more gear without them having less agility

[plain fiber]

That armor can be worn without the exoskeleton component though. We see multiple NPCs doing this in the original trilogy.

[stuck seal]

I know, I said that before

[plain fiber]

My bad.

[stuck seal]

However it feels kinda odd that they’re given exos, other than making them look more dangerous, it doesn’t serve much purpose in lore

[static lark]

I like wearing the exo in game but then I look at my repair costs and realize it’s not worth it

I went from 120,000 Koupons to 40,000 Koupons very quickly

[stuck seal]

So I’m thinking there’s even heavier armor in the zone that might be too heavy for normal, in lore, of course in game it’s the same vest

[stuck seal]

Gotta get on that artifact grind

[plain fiber]

I mean, the Corundum suit description does mention it being quite heavy iirc, but not so heavy that it strictly requires an exoskeleton.

[static lark]

I did

I went an got like 12 artifacts and sold them just to get back to 120,000

[stuck seal]

I had 500k once, I took it for granted, never saw that much money again

[static lark]

I wanna go get the FALCON armor in Malachite but idk if the repair costs will be that much lower so I might just go get some Bulat armor and go about my business

Right now I’m wearing SEVA-I cause I found it in Yantar

[stuck seal]

You know where to find bulat?

[static lark]

Nope but MapGenie

[stuck seal]

Army warehouse

[static lark]

Where at?

[stuck seal]

North of burnt forest, across the bridge I believe west of chemical plant

[static lark]

Ag Chem Plant

[stuck seal]

It’s been so long I don’t remember the code for the door, but the door codes are simple enough you don’t have to search it up

[static lark]

Yeah I’ll go over there at some point and grab it

[static lark]

Mapgenie tells you it is 0690

Good job GSC

[stuck seal]

One gripe I have is that most door codes have a hint at the door itself, most, sometimes you could completely miss the hint because you entered the facility/complex/town from the wrong direction

[static lark]

I’ll be completely honest… I never bother to find the codes

If they were random I would but it’s easier to just go on Google and search up the name of the location and the code is already solved for you

Since they’re all set codes that never change

[stuck seal]

Stalker 2 update where the game can detect if you actually found the code or not and punishes you if you don’t find the code properly

[compact zephyr]

Anyone else having issues with the swift change sidequest? Every time id get up to jumper and blueish they are already dead before i can deal with hog

[stuck seal]

They should be alongside you before the hog fight, just jump in front of them and take all the hits

[static lark]

Not my fault they set the codes and they never change

[compact zephyr]

Thats the issue i run straight up there and open the door and they are already dead before i can even do anything

[plain fiber]

There's also a SEVA-I in Eastern Duga. Fully upgraded, it's about on the same level as the Falcon, so it's pretty much just personal preference.

[stuck seal]

So you don’t talk to them before hog arrives?

[static lark]

I’m still gonna go grab the Falcon just to say I have it. But like I said I’m probably just gonna go get Bulat and not worry about it

[compact zephyr]

No, you hear hog say he needs to check em and by time i get up there they are dead outside

[plain fiber]

I fully upgraded it and then sold it once I found the SEVA-I. I've always preferred SEVA suits to PSZ heavy suits.

[stuck seal]

I’ve never experienced that, it may be an intentional option for the quest

[static lark]

The SEVA suits make you look goofy so I don’t like them

[plain fiber]

I love the look of the SEVAs personally. Combat HAZMAT suit; I'm into the aesthetic.

[compact zephyr]

I have no idea, because after i kill them it still wants me to talk to him and kinda hard to while hes dead

[static lark]

I feel like Skif in universe would probably just wear the Bulat since it’s what UA adopted

[stuck seal]

It was adopted at one point

[plain fiber]

I'm still bothered that Skif's service pistol is a Makarov and not a Fort-14 or something.

[stuck seal]

Might need to go all the way back to the beginning of the quest, I hope you have a save there

[stuck seal]

The fora pistols aren’t in stalker 2 anyway

[static lark]

I still don’t know why they adopted Bulat over Wolfhound

[compact zephyr]

I do and damn i really dont want to fight that controller again

[plain fiber]

They need to be though.

[stuck seal]

Degtyarev’s service pistol was also a Makarov

Or was it

[static lark]

Or no they adopted Berill over Bulat

[plain fiber]

Yeah it was.

[static lark]

I had it wrong

[stuck seal]

Well now the military uses other stuff, the armor that the IPSF use is probably just surplus

[obtuse veldt]

But Degtyarev was a stalker infiltrator

[static lark]

Isn’t IPSF a private force that isn’t tied to any nation

[obtuse veldt]

Had to start with the looks of one.

[stuck seal]

Yes

[plain fiber]

Honestly, Degtyarev's service pistol should have been a Fort variant too. Ukrainian Secret Service (or whatever USS stood for) and he's rocking a Makarov?

[stuck seal]

The military in the zone get the short end of the stick

[obtuse veldt]

Probably to merge with the stalkers

[static lark]

Probably cause they’re not supposed to be there anymore

[plain fiber]

Using a Fort-12 instead of a Makarov isn't going to make him stand out. It's just a handgun, and one that a lot of other stalkers use.

[stuck seal]

The fort pistols also match with stalkers because it’s super common

[static lark]

Isn’t the Zone like autonomous now?

[stuck seal]

Privatized

The Zone is still very much under the authority of the government, the government just outsources the job to IPSF and SIRCAA

[static lark]

The Fora-12 is just a Ukrainian High Power?

[stuck seal]

Ecologists, while still technically government workers, are under the payroll of SIRCAA, which is government funded but not government run (officially) from what I understand

[cyan mulch]

Fora is ukraine version of tar-21

[plain fiber]

Oh crap, I forgot! The Browning Hi-Power is also missing from S2!

[stuck seal]

Fora is ukraine version of g36

[static lark]

We’re talking about a pistol

[static lark]

The Fora is the Tavor

[stuck seal]

The fora is the m249

[static lark]

There’s not really any point for it to exist

I don’t think anyone around Ukraine ever adopted the HP

But same goes for the USP so

[stuck seal]

Is there even a 9x19 default pistol? There’s a conversion for edp I know that

[static lark]

I mean the Gambit drops 9x19

[stuck seal]

True, but that’s a variant

I guess the answer is no

[static lark]

I honestly think they had a lot more guns planned and then they weren’t finished so they just cut them and forgot to cut the ammo types

[cyan mulch]

Aye, tought u were all talking about the rifle

[static lark]

That’s what they did for 7.62x39 at least

[stuck seal]

And they don’t let us buy it from traders

[static lark]

Cause 9x19 is only used by the Vector, MP5, and Gambit iirc

And that’s wrong cause the Vector should be 45 iirc

[stuck seal]

It can be converted to 45

There is a 9mm vector that exists

[static lark]

Yeah but everyone knows the vector as 45

[stuck seal]

All the more reason to be unique

[hallow shadow]

Kinda like a P90 can be 9mm and 5.7, iirc

[static lark]

no.

[hallow shadow]

Which… Would be cool, in the Zone.

[static lark]

P90s are only 5.7

Idk if you’d even be able to make a 9mm P90 work

[stuck seal]

Should’ve called it the P5.7 then smh my head

[static lark]

It’s called the P90 cause it finished development in 1990

[stuck seal]

I know

[hallow shadow]

Ohhh. P90 was meant to replace 9mil SMGs.
The weapon would look funny, in 9mil.

Bigger barrel and such.

[static lark]

Idk what the P means

Produkt 90?

[stuck seal]

I know what it means

[static lark]

Oh it literally means Project 90

MP7 is cooler than the P90

[hallow shadow]

We could always get a 10mm MP5

[static lark]

Only reason anyone thinks the P90 is cool and futuristic is cause of Stargate

[wooden walrus]

yes how could someone think that of an smg with a humongous, unique magazine

[hallow shadow]

I like the feeding mechanism, in P90’s.
And their look.

But, SG: Atlantis made those guns cool.

[wooden walrus]

cool and futuristic? What are some kind of stargate nerd

[static lark]

Technically a PDW but yeah

I hate the designation PDW though

[hallow shadow]

It’s the way the rounds load, for me.
Such a neat little machine.

Rounds face one way, rounds fired in a different way.

[static lark]

Every gun is a Personal Defense Weapon

[stuck seal]

I have an AGS-30 for personal defense

[static lark]

That’d do it

[hallow shadow]

Got me a Glock, a 6.8 AR, and .243 Bolt action.

I love my .243, honestly.
Not a bad round.

Glock stays at home.
I carry a 92F.
Cause I’m a creature of habit.

[analog lintel]

Only after the ending :)

this server needs a project y patch to express my allegiance to TRUE FREEDOM

[hallow shadow]

Does anyone else get a weird screen artifact when using the better flashlight (Xbox)
Everything to the right of my weapon is dimmed out in a perfectly straight line.

[static lark]

You like boys don’t ya

[analog lintel]

Kissing Richter on the mouth is a prerequisite for the Project Y ending

[static lark]

See EVERY SINGLE FREEDOM GUY

Freedom should just change their patch to the pride flag

[analog lintel]

when we kill the pretender myklukha and return freedom to the path of real anarchy the pride flag will be added to the patch

[hallow shadow]

I’ll kiss the hell out of Richter.

[static lark]

It’s every freedom guy.

I can’t talk Noon is practically just the AA for Monolithians

[hallow shadow]

“Whoa, some fireworks, huh?”

We were meant for each other.

[static lark]

Recovering Crackheads but instead of Crack its Mind Control

[analog lintel]

Real. It's crazy how intimate the Project Y route convo with him is. The strelok route he's like "thanks for saving me ig" and in project y he's like "YOU MEAN THE WORLD TO ME YOUVE CHANGED ME IN WAYS I CANNOT FATHOM I WOULD LOVE TO BE YOUR GUARDIAN ANGEL SKIF THE ZONE HAS BROUGHT US TOGETHER WE ARE SOULMATES YOURE SO SEXY PLEASE END THE WORLD ITD BE REALLY HOT BABE HAHA"

[analog lintel]

its actually marriage counselling but everyone else is the counselors and you have to keep faust and strider from divorce

[hallow shadow]

Once he started talking about Crows in the Zone, I was all
“My man has a heart”

Goodest dude in the whole Zone

[static lark]

So why is Noon and Spark working together cause doesn’t Noon wanna contain the zone while Spark wants the zone to spread all across earth

Or is it a “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” kinda thing cause they both hate Ward

[analog lintel]

spark doesnt want to spread the zone, that's doctor and project Y

[hallow shadow]

I thought Richter was a Sparker.
Gaffer called him one, right in front of me.

[plain fiber]

Just because Ukraine never adopted the HP doesn't mean it shouldn't be found in the Zone. By that logic, we shouldn't be able to find anything that isn't either an Eastern Bloc or Ukrainian weapon anywhere in-game.

[static lark]

Richter is a sparker

[analog lintel]

richter is an associate but he ends up fully parting ways with spark if you get the project y or strelok ending

[plain fiber]

There is not, we're still missing a bunch of weapons from the trilogy or at least more modern replacements.

Well okay, there are two 9x19 default pistols, but the problem is that they're both uniques.

[hallow shadow]

I’m going Ward, for my first playthrough.
Gotta get it out of the way, and let Richter hate me.

[frigid hill]

malaize has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[static lark]

That’s not what I said, I don’t think anyone around the zone adopted it either meaning nearby people who’re entering the Zone wouldn’t really have one. Sure there might be some there but i don’t think there’d be a lot

[hallow shadow]

Ouch.

[analog lintel]

if you go on the spark route he stays with them but he's getting more disillusioned as the game goes on, so you have to actively push him to stay with spark by being really horrible (going for the ward or spark routes yourself)

[plain fiber]

My bad for misunderstanding you then. And that's not true, you could regularly find the Browning HP being used by Mercs, Loners, and I believe Freedomers in the trilogy.

[static lark]

I actually really like Richter cause after you blow up SIRCAA he halfway freaks out about the Noon members not responding on radio then he freaks out when they start shooting at yall, makes me feel like he actually cared about them

[static lark]

By “around the zone” I mean the countries bordering the zone (Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, Poland, Etc etc)

I get what you’re saying and I get that half of the guns in the game especially original trilogy we’re just added cause a dev thought the gun was cool

[plain fiber]

Okay...but it's not just Ukrainians and other Eastern Europeans that are in/coming to the Zone.

[static lark]

I’m just saying from a realistic point of view the HP being in the zone doesn’t make much sense especially since by 2001 there’d be much better 9x19 handguns

[fervent estuary]

When patch?

[analog lintel]

the thing that separates richter from the rest of spark is that spark don't actually like the zone. if they liked the zone they wouldn't be obsessed with finding a "better" one. spark is all mysticism and smoke and mirrors, but at the end of the day they're sad people who can't see the beauty in the world around them anymore (unlike richter who loves the world because he's a wonderful little guy full of merriment)

[plain fiber]

It's alternate history hard sci-fi, just let it be. If it were trying to be 100% realistic we wouldn't see as many Grozas and AN-94s as we do in the trilogy.

[static lark]

Yeah no I get that

[hallow shadow]

As an American, who was stationed in Europe, he literally reminded me of a happy German after a few beers.

Richter is my homie.

[static lark]

Germans can be happy?

[analog lintel]

richter is a sad drunk actually

[plain fiber]

You're not wrong though, even by Clear Sky the Browning HP was pretty old.

[hallow shadow]

Don’t tell me that.

[static lark]

Yeah there’s way better options for way cheaper

[hallow shadow]

I will hug him.

[stuck seal]

If it were trying to be 100% realistic everyone in the zone would have very bad stomach issues

[static lark]

Literally just Glock would steamroll HP

[static lark]

Everyone would just have cancer of every type

[analog lintel]

I want to hug everyone in Noon (including faust). Also Richter. Also Dalin but I punch Dalin in the face first.

[stuck seal]

Stalkers wouldn’t be trying to get artifact they’ll just start stripping cars for parts

[static lark]

While I personally love the HP and want one irl it’d just make more sense for people in the zone to have other guns than it

[analog lintel]

thats what the diggers do, i believe

[plain fiber]

So here are the guns from the original trilogy that we're still missing/haven't gotten a more modern replacement:

• Fort-12

• Makarov PB

• Walther P99

• Beretta M9

• Browning Hi-Power

• Desert Eagle

• AN-94

• L85A1

• SIG 550

• FN F2000

[analog lintel]

well they scrounge junk in general, but cars too

[static lark]

Nah Faust can die.

[stuck seal]

I feel like we don’t NEED those guns, there’s already guns that are close enough

[static lark]

As a Noon fan Faust can just die

[analog lintel]

I can fix him.

[plain fiber]

For a couple of them sure, but we definitely need more handguns, especially 9x19 default pistols that aren't uniques.

[stuck seal]

Especially l85 not even bandits would want that

[analog lintel]

I'm also a Noon fan but I CAN FIX HIM. WE HAVE TO BELIEVE HE ISN'T BEYOND SAVING

[static lark]

The Fort-12 makes more sense than the HP but sadly the Fort is in 9x18

[bright linden]

someone make gamma for stalker 2

[stuck seal]

No

[plain fiber]

No yeah, the L85 can stay gone, but we do still need a 5.56 rifle that serves as the equivalent to the AKS-74U. Right now we don't have that.

[stuck seal]

Like a short barrel AR?

[static lark]

I mean I guess the Fora conversion

[stuck seal]

Like a short barrel AR or do you mean like a cheap AR

Like the l85

[plain fiber]

Fora is a mid-tier weapon though. We need a bottom tier 5.56 equivalent to the AKS-74U is my point.

[static lark]

If we mean a cheap AR then just get the AR18

[plain fiber]

Cheap/bottom tier 5.56.

[static lark]

It’s what the L85 was based on but the Brits ruined it with the whole bullpup part

[plain fiber]

Also, more guns is never a bad thing imo.

[static lark]

More guns is always a great thing

[stuck seal]

Maybe instead of l85 it’s something like a 1970s m4, like no rails or nothing just the carry handle

[static lark]

AR18

[stuck seal]

That’s something that would be common in the zone as it’s practical and cheap

[plain fiber]

Hell, given the setting is alternate history hard sci-fi, give us a G11 and Pancor Jackhammer.

[stuck seal]

Practical, cheap, common (sort of)

[static lark]

The literal reason the AR18 was made was to just be an AR15 but cheaper

Which is why the IRA really liked the AR18 cause it was cheap as balls

But the IRA also had Barrett M82s

[plain fiber]

Oooooh, give us PDWs like the MP7 and the P90.

[static lark]

The MP7 isn’t in 5.7 it’s in 4.6

[plain fiber]

Ah shit you're right. I'm getting my calibers mixed up.

[static lark]

But it also removes everything that makes it an AR since it functions like an AK

[plain fiber]

Give me a Soviet-era pump-action like the KS-98(?).

[static lark]

They removed the direct gas impingement system and gave it short stroke gas piston instead

[static lark]

You mean the 4 gauge shotgun?

[plain fiber]

I think so?

Also damn, I didn't realize that thing was 4 gauge.

[static lark]

KS-23

[static lark]

And technically it doesn’t by American standards, by American standards it shoots 6.278 Gauge but by European standards it shoots 4 gauge

[hoary crest]

I want an STM-9.

[hoary crest]

Also yes

[static lark]

That’s just a 9mm AR

[hoary crest]

Yes, yes it is

[static lark]

Give us an ADAR

The ADAR 2-15

It’s literally just a Russian Civilian Market AR15

[hoary crest]

Also where MP7

[static lark]

It would make sense to be in the zone, it’s 5.56, and from what I know it’s cheap

Also it looks Russian it doesn’t look American if that’s what they’re worried about

@charred nova Please post a picture of the ADAR 2-15 for me

He’s cool and likes my gun suggestions so this should be easy

[hoary crest]

Its an M4 with wooden furniture

[static lark]

It’s not an M4

It’s an AR15 that was made for the Russian civilian market… with wooden furniture

Cause Russians hate black polymer up until like 2012

[pine magnet]

WHY THE MISSIONS WITH KILLINH FAUST IS SO HARD

[hoary crest]

Idk why they decided to put a VSS style stock on it anyway, it looks goofy

[pine magnet]

I QUITED THE GAME CAUSE I COULDNT PASS IT MAN

[static lark]

Cause he’s got super powers…. (You also never kill him)

[hoary crest]

Handguard is nice, stock is awful

[static lark]

You used the one picture…. Where it doesn’t have the wood furniture

[pine magnet]

Man i lost every ammo and was hitting his clones with kinfe

[static lark]

Thanks Jack

[static lark]

I kinda like the stock

[hoary crest]

The top bit is nice, the rest of the stock, no thank you

[stuck seal]

That’s just gamma/tarkov

[static lark]

By all means it’s probably horrible ergonomically speaking, but it looks cool

[static lark]

You guys asked for a cheap AR I gave you cheap AR

[stuck seal]

I didn’t ask for it

You guys is a vague term

[gusty nexus]

I just had a truly oldschool STALKER moment.
An ISPF guy snuck up on me during a fire fight, shot me point blank and melee'd me once to death while reloading.

[hoary crest]

Why not just put in a 5.56 AK

[static lark]

The foregrip reminds me of a SVD foregrip but chopped down

They circumcised a SVD

[hoary crest]

SVT-40 also, needs to happen

Also SKS, with wood furniture

[static lark]

Cause I was told CHEAP AR equivalent to the AK74 so I thought of the only cheap Russian AR I know

[pine magnet]

Can u play online in stalker 2

[static lark]

Also 5.56 AKs are abominations and shouldn’t exist

[hoary crest]

We have the 416, yes its not particularly cheap, but it is the "starter" 5.56 weapon

[static lark]

Well they want cheaper

[hoary crest]

Bring a slingshot

[static lark]

So like I said a Russian Civilian AR with wood furniture

It’d be Semi Auto only

[hoary crest]

Tsk, SKS or bust

[static lark]

That’s just a AK47 but reskinned and with smaller mags

Only reason the Chinese, Viets, and Russians used them for as long as they did was cause cheap

And ceremonies

[hoary crest]

It also looks nice

Also none of that mag fed modern bollocks, an old one with an internal mag

[polar silo]

Nah we need a sks

[stuck seal]

Do we really need that many marksman weapons?

[hoary crest]

Yes

[static lark]

Just gimme the SVT40 if we NEED a low capacity semi auto rifle

[stuck seal]

“Everyone is here” ahh game

[polar silo]

Idk about you but I’d be using the sks as a mid range just like an ak

[polar silo]

Sks cooler

[static lark]

No the SVT is way cooler

[polar silo]

Nuh uh

[static lark]

It even looks better

[polar silo]

That’s an outrageous statement

[hoary crest]

Someone didnt play DayZ and it shows 😔

[polar silo]

You need to be banned for having the audacity to say that ngl

[stuck seal]

The m701 is cooler because it’s actually in the game

[static lark]

I played DayZ like every day from 2020-2022

[hoary crest]

What do you expect from a Nooner 😄

[static lark]

I went hard on the RP servers

Then the server I played a lot on shut down and I just didn’t bother to find another one

[polar silo]

Leaving the way of the monolith left them a little challenged lol

[static lark]

I have at least like 2k hours on DayZ

[polar silo]

Then you should know the sks is a sick ass weapon

[static lark]

WHY WOULD I WANT A LESS CAPABLE AK

[polar silo]

BECAUSE ITS COOL

[static lark]

THE ONLY REASON ANYONE USES SKS IS CAUSE THEYRE CHEAPER THAN AKS

[polar silo]

AND LOOK COOLER

[static lark]

THATS THE ONLY REASON

[hoary crest]

Because our AK's are in 5.45, not 7.62..

[static lark]

IT IS A WORSE RIFLE WANNA KNOW HOW I KNOW THAT?

[polar silo]

Akm

[hoary crest]

Not in game

[hallow shadow]

I used a slingshot, downrange.
Illegal as hell, but I gave it to my gunner.

He used it to keep kids from climbing up on our RPG cages.
We used marbles.

[polar silo]

Neither is the sks

[hoary crest]

No, but which would you rather have?

[polar silo]

Sks

[static lark]

IF IT WAS A BETTER RIFLE HALF THE WORLD WOULD HAVE ADOPTED IT INSTEAD OF THE AK

[hoary crest]

The only correct answer

[stuck seal]

Everyone in the zone would probably just use flip flops rather than an sks

[hallow shadow]

SKS goes hard.
DMR life.

[polar silo]

Sks is such a cool weapon

[hoary crest]

Laz' is gonna pop a blood vessel in a minute 😄

[hallow shadow]

Semi, or die.

[stuck seal]

When the marksman rifle is undesignated

[static lark]

It’s not even a DMR it serves the exact same purpose as the AK it was the standard infantry rifle for every nation that used it until they either could afford enough AKs or for russias case until they invented the AK

[hoary crest]

Yeah, he's right, its an infantry rifle, but a cool as heck one 😄

[hallow shadow]

Anything is a DMR, if you know how to shoot.

The M16 is considered a DMR

[stuck seal]

Anything is a DMR is you’re brave enough

[polar silo]

Speaking of m16 how come we don’t have one in stalker

[static lark]

i hope you guys have a weird nut every time you nut from here on out

[stuck seal]

Lr300 which then became 416

[hallow shadow]

If you’re in the army, and they send you to LRM school…
You get back to your cheap ass unit, they hand you an M16/Acog and say “DMR”

[hoary crest]

Don't care, want SKS

[stuck seal]

M16 serves no purpose

[hallow shadow]

Yes it does.
Extended range compared to its M4 counterpart.

DMR

[stuck seal]

I’m talking about in game brother

[hallow shadow]

Ohhhhh

[static lark]

If you guys want a DMR so bad just use the SVD

[polar silo]

It looks absolutely sick and it’s a burst which we have a severe lack of

[hallow shadow]

GOTTA HAVE ME THAT CARRY HANDLE

[stuck seal]

The apsb is burst

[static lark]

Wow

[polar silo]

And that’s like the only one lmao

[static lark]

Isn’t the Kharod burst

Doesn’t it have the option i mean

[polar silo]

The only forced burst I should say

But like the m16 is such a cool gun and could be used as like a middle ground for the g37 and the 416

[static lark]

Both the G36 and 416 are better guns btw

[polar silo]

Buff the shit out of the m16 and make it a middle ground

Seeing as how we have tiered guns there’s a way it could work in that case

[static lark]

I’m gonna have a brain aneurysm

[polar silo]

Lmao

[static lark]

I’m gonna go buy a garbage shot to hell SKS and blow it up just to record it and send it here

This is what you’ve pushed me to do. I AM GONNA MAKE SURE ITS A SOVIET MADE ONE FROM TULA

[hallow shadow]

The M16 isn’t worse than those weapons, other than a lack of automatic fire.

[polar silo]

You wouldn’t dare

[hallow shadow]

M16 goes brr

[frigid hill]

opiumaniac has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[polar silo]

Also that’s debatable. The m16 would have better control and be more accurate especially at range

[hallow shadow]

Get you a nice A4

[hallow shadow]

It could compete with the other longer range weapons, but not with power.

[static lark]

We’re gonna ignore that “opiumaniac” just sent 4 strange links and immediately got Wolf’d

[hallow shadow]

Ahhh. Burning opium fields.
Good ol Afghanistan.

[polar silo]

It would be a mix of an ar and a dmr style

Slap an acog and you’re golden

[static lark]

Just use the SVD

[hallow shadow]

SR25

[polar silo]

Expensive ammo

[static lark]

I have like 300 rounds of 7.62x54r in game

[hallow shadow]

I used one, for a short time.
But all MPs generally get an ACOG.

M16/Acog is no joke.

[static lark]

But i also never use the SVD cause 100m bubble

[hoary crest]

No, I will use the Mosin, until we get an SKS

[polar silo]

Of regular or high quality?

[static lark]

I’d use the mosin as my main rifle unironically if they’d just let me take the PU off of it without having to put a goofy rail on top of the gun

[polar silo]

Mods baby

[hallow shadow]

I do, however, not enjoy the fact that Kharod is the only viable 5.56 weapon.

[hoary crest]

This guy gets it

[static lark]

I think both but i think i have ~220 of the high quality

I literally just never use 7.62x54r cause why would i besides PKM and the PKM weighs too much

[static lark]

So 300 regular and like 220 high quality

[lean viper]

Alr so after artifacts hunting for hours yesterday I logged on today and got the hypercube, so now imma just finish the game, I’ve done spark and ward ending now imma get onto Strelok and kaymanov. Thing is, I head strelok ending is the best so i think imma do kymanov first, also I have taken both but idk which one is better so should I go through olyimpya or polissya bc ik that the Olympia has constant fighting but polissya has smth else I forgot which one do I take

[hoary crest]

You are playing with Better Ballistics, literally every rifle is endgame viable with that

[stuck seal]

How much did the pkm weigh in the trilogy?

[hallow shadow]

I meant Vanilla, but yeah. I have BB.

[stuck seal]

Every rifle is endgame viable if you hit headshots

[hoary crest]

Well, yes, but in BB guns behave like, you know guns, you shoot man, he die

[static lark]

The Monolith don’t seem to care much about headshots

[stuck seal]

Yeah they are well armored

[static lark]

I fought some monolith last night and i swear i headshotted one of them like 8 times before he died

[polar silo]

Can’t use regular 7.62 for the svd sadly

[static lark]

Using Dnipro, granted i was using regular bullets but still

[hallow shadow]

Other than the fact that every enemy ever will always have a higher armor rating than Skif.

[polar silo]

Bringing the mosin in forced the svd to use ap and high quality

[stuck seal]

I killed an exo in 3 headshots with the ak74, ball ammo

[stuck seal]

You can upgrade it so it can use ball ammo too

[lean viper]

Right can SOMONE reply gng

[static lark]

And they for some reason decided to make it where you can upgrade mosin to only use high quality, why in the hell would i want a gun nicknamed “The Garbage-Rod” to shoot high quality ammo

[stuck seal]

To be funny

[hallow shadow]

To poke trash.

[static lark]

Yeah cool ig (idk what you’re talking about but you wanted a response)

[hoary crest]

So what is better a Mosin or an SKS? 😄

[static lark]

Mosin

[hallow shadow]

SKS

Semi, smaller, modular.

[stuck seal]

Famas

[static lark]

“Modular”

[hallow shadow]

All-around better firing platform.

[hoary crest]

The old ones are not modular lol

[hallow shadow]

You didn’t specify what year.
If it’s got rails, it’s fine.

[hoary crest]

You can put a sight on it, and a bayonet, thats about it 😄

[static lark]

None of them are modular unless you buy a aftermarket chassis and slap on it

[hallow shadow]

Same with a mosin.

[hoary crest]

Hell no, old wooden one, not some goofy modern one

[stuck seal]

There should be a super trader that sells a ton of different weapons that everyone wants and begs for, the catch is that it’s super expensive and when you do buy it it’s just a plastic replica that doesn’t work

[static lark]

I mean you can make a mosin modular by doing the same thing, you can rip the wood off and put a rail chassis on it

[hallow shadow]

But the SKS doesn’t suffer from a debilitating rate of fire, and lack of maneuverability.

[static lark]

Idk why you’d want that

[hoary crest]

I just wanna be able to put a suppressor on it D:

[hallow shadow]

I’d still take the SKS, any day.

[hoary crest]

Can put a brake on it, why not a threaded endcap. Big sad

[static lark]

Wow one of the top mods is “Mosin no default sight”

[hoary crest]

Just use OXA

[hallow shadow]

It’s not on console. Yet

[hoary crest]

(No I will not stop stanning for it)

[static lark]

Yeah im playing on Xbox bud

[hoary crest]

Unfortunate

[static lark]

My pc couldn’t handle this game it was built for FNV

[hoary crest]

Idk if he has plans to port it over or not

[hallow shadow]

I hope.

[polar silo]

What’s OXA

[static lark]

I’m gonna play unmodded for my first playthrough anyway

[hallow shadow]

Oxide’s Extended Armory

[static lark]

What’s it add

[hoary crest]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/939?tab=description

[polar silo]

Hopefully that gets added. Don’t know what it adds but more guns is always good