☢┃stalker-general

[cedar bronze]

which is weird cus that's shouldn't effect gpu no?

I don't understand this game at all...

[charred nova]

CPU bottleneck

The game is extremely cpu limited

[cedar bronze]

but DLSS quality improves the fps some how.. even though gpu usage isn't maxing out..

maybe v-ram issue? I have only 12 gig..

[charred nova]

CPU

[cedar bronze]

if cpu bottleneck, then how is dlss imrpving it? ;-;

[charred nova]

The reason gpu won’t max out is cus cpu

[cedar bronze]

yes I understand that, but that's what confuses me na? if CPU is the issue then me using DLAA should have no performence diff.. but playin in native resolution does make game run like 4-5 fps less on avg near humans...

shouldn't that not happen if cpu is the only issue.
I've a 5600x which is recommended spec too right?

[charred nova]

Oh nah that cpu is far from optimal

It doesn’t have v cache

[cedar bronze]

[charred nova]

Also that’s basically just margin of error

[obtuse veldt]

Or a 5900x

[violet dune]

cheeki breeki iv damke

[cedar bronze]

no, its consistant, i checked multiple time

with dlaa on, my fps drop below 40, but without it, it's 40+. So I can feel it on the input lag too

[charred nova]

That’s not gonna do much

V cache will though

[charred nova]

I’m no expert but one probably just has more cpu overhead

Simple facts of the matter are if you aren’t hitting full gpu use its the cpu

Or you got a fps cap but that’s not the case

[timid siren]

Just what I was thinking...

[cedar bronze]

hmm.. I see

[dusky sequoia]

Roadmap in 2.5 femtoseconds

[coarse falcon]

How long it will be after converting to femboyseconds?

[tardy rain]

bruh, its 2025, they're called femalepresentingseconds

[charred nova]

[honest ferry]

1.6 when

[charred nova]

Never

[honest ferry]

you ated it

[fickle hill]

[charred nova]

Yah I did was delicious

[floral elm]

Did it taste like A life and more content?

[charred nova]

Can’t say

[fickle hill]

It will come out as bug fixes and a message with no optimization

[chrome jetty]

[still current]

[smoky gull]

i joined this server just to ask a question

when the hell does stalker cop get good

[still current]

Jupiter underground

[smoky gull]

how far is that

[still current]

Far

[smoky gull]

yea im cooked bro

[still current]

Where' you at

[smoky gull]

road to prypiat: talk to the guide

[still current]

Ah

Close

Very

[smoky gull]

am i playign the game wrong or something

[still current]

Nah

[smoky gull]

i have to keep walking to the end of the world just to examine some helicopters

its like a walking sim with shooting dogs every once in a while

[still current]

Jupiter underground is THE way to pripyat

Good luck there lmao haha

[smoky gull]

do i need to be prepared

all i have is a pistol and an ak with no ammo

[still current]

Well, main missions are not everything yk. There are plenty of stuff to do in between

Don't tell me yo go full on mission

[smoky gull]

i know but ive never been a big fan of the side quests in stalker games except stalker 2

[still current]

Story mission*

[smoky gull]

about that....

[still current]

Well, you're missing all the fun

[smoky gull]

the only sidequest i did was nitros

[still current]

cuz some are better than S2

[smoky gull]

ill try doing more when i reach the jupiter undergroud place

but rn cop def has the slowest start of them all

[still current]

You have the bloodsucker lair in zaton, the gonta arc, and the wheel artifact mission

You just rushed through all the good stuff and made the game as you described it to be

[smoky gull]

also is it normal that cop has so many big empty buildings

[still current]

Yeah

Cuz it's an exclusion zone and such haha

[smoky gull]

its kinda weird

i wish they would atleast have some loot in them

[still current]

Btw, Jupiter underground is basically the transition point from end midgame to endgame

[smoky gull]

oh wow

also do we have any news on stalker 2 dlc

[still current]

I bet you spent 10hrs or less

[smoky gull]

im at 6.7 hours rn

most of it is spent afk lol

i cant wait to play stalker gamma though

shit looks beautifull

[still current]

My brain after that statement

[obtuse veldt]

Same

Wtf is he doing...

Not even following the S2 canon where deggy helped the bandits and kept freedumb and dooty in a stalemate so they started leaving their factions

[graceful dirge]

Did Deggy canonically recruit Strider & the boys into Freedom or Duty because had to be one or the other right for him to have survived from CoP to HoC

[pseudo gate]

he recruited them to Ward

Hope Deggy gets a bigger role in S2 DLCs, he and his faction are kinda....bland and just there

[acoustic orchid]

Oh 😂

[kindred fable]

Gamming

GSC answers are very cool, I like to know that they don't know anything and that time will tell...

If they'll drop the ability to join factions in 1.6 it would be kinda interesting to see

[ivory scarab]

I never even understood what the Corp is. Is Deggy still part of the military are they a Ukrainian military unit, a subsection of the IPSF, or just a group of really seasoned stalkers under his command guarding the city

[stuck seal]

Considering some of them have lines regarding military service and military terminology, they most likely are either military or IPSF

And people would say that they’re stalkers who become part of the military but I think even with a license, a stalker would have to be taken out of the zone and sent to a training camp for basic training at least to be enlisted. Which is something the military probably wouldn’t do, so they’re most likely just military

I like to think that deg didn’t actually help the bandits, but that the bandits eventually just took over on their own. Stalker numbers in the center at the time were already low, for both bandits and loners, so sultan had the advantage of skadovsk being isolated

[charred nova]

You could say that about freedom and duty as well lol

Effectively they’re just scene dressing

[jovial sable]

I don't think I've seen duty fight freedom in the wild

[stuck seal]

Their organizations may be in conflict but they’re not aggressive towards each other anymore

[charred nova]

I mean they don’t do anything

You can’t even take a quest from either faction leader

[stuck seal]

Plus, just because the guy in charge wants me to hate someone doesn’t mean I’m going to hate them

That’s one thing I feel that the trilogy doesn’t touch on, they treat freedom members and duty members as robots that must hate each other at all costs and doesn’t make much sense

[jovial sable]

what's the difference between freedom and spark?

[stuck seal]

Spark help scientists

Like loners but solely for science

[jovial sable]

Did spark exist in the trilogy?

[stuck seal]

Not exactly

[still current]

I think that would take a bit of effort to introduce tbh
I mean, not the oh I joined that faction and changed general relations and that's it yk? I wouldn't hope for a lifeless feature such as that, so it either come with factions side quests, conflicts or whatever, or never even dare to surface. I personally think it won't come until dlc phase (perhaps introduce the whole thing as a free update dlc). Well, I can't know, so whatever comes, it gotta add some value, or better without

[stuck seal]

I feel like skif wouldn’t get involved in faction stuff

[still current]

Saddest fact

[stuck seal]

Other than the two main options

Just like Strelok or deg wouldn’t join a faction

Just not in their interest, they’re not in need of a community to be safe or provide protection and food

They’re individuals on a mission, determined on their goal, they don’t care about the silly “ideals” of the factions, who are so focused on making themselves look good and sabotaging others that they don’t bring any meaningful change to the zone

[shrewd needle]

Screw faction wars; give me the original trilogy's weapons, A-Life and better ballistics.

[stuck seal]

If I wanted the trilogy I would play the trilogy (I do)

[charred nova]

Like I know the hope was it would all come as a free update but…..

:/

If the shining zone is right

We are gonna end up paying for cut content

[still current]

Idc tbh

[charred nova]

I do

[still current]

I'll welcome any quality stuff with open arms

[charred nova]

Because they said they wouldn’t charge for cut content

[still current]

And who said they will other than superstition

Thing is, it'd be best to wait and see

[charred nova]

It’s written in the shining zone my brother

[still current]

I'm not a believer shining zone is Scar's imposed collective dream

Or nightmare

Depending on the preference and pov

[charred nova]

Also it was data mined from the 1.5 test

[regal vine]

I’m stalking it…

[still current]

Huh

Stalking what

[charred nova]

Deez nuts

[still current]

Deez mama's beads

[floral elm]

Im stalking it so good

[charred nova]

Alright ladies knock it off

[inland mantle]

One would hope not given the games already paid for. Cut dlc, yeah it it’s like a decent sized expansion or new story/factions. pay to get the rest of Pripyat? Nahhhhh

At that point just mod the rest of Pripyat in if we were expected to pay for it

[still current]

I have no reason to talk about data mined stuff it's never entierly authentic

And ofc, you never know

[charred nova]

It would really suck if major amounts of content to make the game complete ends up locked behind dlc

[pseudo gate]

Most likely they are former military or really seasoned stalkers and Deggy himself gas access to military gear through his former connections
And they are convenient to IPSF since they protec the city

[still current]

It would, but it's simply as if I said oh, I read your 3old drawing book and i came to the conclusion that you are possessed

[charred nova]

Not really an apt comparison at all

This was discovered a month ago

[still current]

It is

[still current]

So what? Did it come as faction_dlc_quest_blah.blah?

What kind of note that gave the idea of a paid dlc?

[inland mantle]

And that’s why in game AK-74 are green furniture, border security of Ukraine uses wood/plum mostly on their ak-74 but they are also given that Soviet era green in some cases. All the AK-74’s in game are most likely surplus Soviet era rifles provided by the ISPF

[stuck seal]

I think it’s green because GSC thought it looks nice

The 74ms in S2 are the same model as the trilogy and in the trilogy they are more like an olive kind of green (at least to me) and doesn’t look like any standard issue 74m

Seems stylized for multiple purposes

[shrewd needle]

NGL, I prefer the polymer furniture of the AK-74U from SoC than the wood of other games.

[inland mantle]

Different stock in the OG and a little bit of different detail on the handguard and magazine but otherwise mostly the same. It’s not an out of world thought that the ISPF would have provided a bunch of surplus AK-74M in turn for favors/koupons. and in the earlier stalker games it makes sense why they are the same color as now, the green is Soviet era. That’s not standard issue now. Lots of surplus and is mostly as a reward for service

Only a few are issues now in regular border service

[stuck seal]

Oh, I thought they both have the same triangular foldable stock?

Or is it fixed not foldable?

[inland mantle]

I think the OG games do but in S2 it’s the fixed stock in the same green

But it’s still standard issue depending on what you need the rifle for. Different variants for different jobs but the same rifle at the core

[stuck seal]

It is in fact the metal triangular stock in stalker 2

[inland mantle]

Oh it is lmao, I thought it was fixed

[stuck seal]

It might be fixed, but it’s not the standard polymer stock

[inland mantle]

Still, my original point stands on the handguard and magazine color as the state of Ukraine border security does use different stocks and whatnot

[stuck seal]

Well, “standard” in the world of stalker the triangular stock might be the stock that all standard 74ms come with

[inland mantle]

Probably. I just believe the color choice isn’t based on preference of that color but for a lore reason, as there are tons of Soviet era ak-74 withtbgeeen furniture that are also used by Ukraine and Russia, so would make sense to sell them to stalkers

Or ward/the duty issued them and taking them into the zone to be killed by stalkers and have them taken

Easier to sneak surplus in rather than currently issued weapons

[stuck seal]

We could go into the lore implications of the color of the AKs but in truth, GSC chose one model and that’s the model they’re gonna use, so anyone in the zone is gonna use that gun, they’re not going to make different AK74M models just for lore purposes

Many games are also like this, where one weapon model is used for everything because the devs aren’t going to make multiple different models just for lore sake

[inland mantle]

I understand, I don’t mean stalker 2 itself but all the stalker games as a whole, could be the lore reason on the model as many games do change models for later games because they need new models, but it’s stayed the same and green is an unusual color for it

It’s not common except with border security

[stuck seal]

Though if they could make an AK74M with a rail dovetail mount or something that would be nice, nothing against the pso I like the pso, but some other options would be appreciated. Then again, it’s an early game gun, therefore I agree that it should be limited in choices like just having one scope option

If you want more options, you gotta get a higher tier weapon

[inland mantle]

Eh early game or not I feel like it should have at least the option for a collimator sight. A sight won’t make or break it as an early game gun (unless it’s thermal or some shit)

It can have extended mag and a GP-25

[stuck seal]

Yeah like the 74u can have a collimator

[inland mantle]

And a suppressor on special

I hope GSC adds the OKP-7 optic when AKM gets added. Those two together are 🔥

[stuck seal]

Rail or dovetail?

[smoky hawk]

The green signifies it is a Border Patrol AK

[inland mantle]

That’s what figured, because the only time green is used on the AK-74 is for border patrol, not really standard issue anymore but more as a service rewards

Makes sense for them to be green as the ISPF would have them and obviously sell surplus to the zone stalkers for money or favors

[shell flax]

Day 2 of no severe issues on my PC run

Still no idea what made the game shit itself so forcefully

[smoky hawk]

Mods or outdated saves

[shell flax]

Probably a mod went wrong then

Because those were fresh saves

[compact root]

Are they still doing dlc's? Thought they abandoned the game and just doing damage control patches wise? Like its been 9 months and no progress has been made lmao

[somber rose]

I too like telling lies and ragebaiting, friend request sent

[lean viper]

Uhh

Hey. I need help, I’ve completed the ward and spark endings

And I didn’t have a save to before the eternal spring burnt forest choice

So I’ve restarted all the way back at the first trip to wild island

And I’m just wondering because I’ve sided with spark for my last 2 endings and so that meant choosing Noontide at SIRCAA

So I was locked out of chemical base but I had Rostock

But now I’m deciding to side with ward bc I wanna play every bit of the game and see all options

So I know I will be given access to chemical base

But will I be locked out of Rostock??

Because I’ve tried to see online and I’ve read that I’ll be locked out of chemical base if I choose Noontide

But it doesn’t say anywhere that I will be locked out of Rostok

So maybe it’s just Assuming I have common sense and I do get locked out of rostok

Or maybe I have access to both?? I don’t know I just need someone to answer

[graceful dirge]

You never lose access to Rostok fully if you side with Ward, just wouldn't be able to go into the Spark base which is outside of the main hub area & there's no point to going there beyond moving the questline forward when necessary to meet there

So you are fine to side with Ward & still be able to use the Rostok hub area, as the Freedomers running it + Loners populating it are neutral either way

[lean viper]

So is the spark base just that train area with that repair guy??

[inland mantle]

I really hope the desert eagle mod comes to xbox because that firing sound is amazing. The best part is the added detail to the recoil audio, that heavy clunk from the slide with each shot is 🔥 and a detail most games miss

Firing a desert eagle isn’t about hitting your target. It’s getting to experience firing it and hearing the chunk and feeling the power

[graceful dirge]

Yes, so you really aren't missing out on anything when you lose access to it

[graceful dirge]

Honestly it's shocking that wasn't something we got in vanilla, both bc classic returning weapon & we have some other strange Israeli additions like IWI Carmel & Fort-221 being UA TAR-21 clone so to omit the only one that was present before is certainly strange

[subtle bison]

Boys this is very important

Is Freedom fully Ukrainian

This is going to make or break my argument on freedom on the paper.

[charred nova]

In the original trilogy no

In stalker 2 yah

[subtle bison]

You mean only the members in stalker 2 are born Ukrainian?

[fierce nexus]

🇺🇦

[charred nova]

All Russians are retconned out of the game if they were ever implied to exist in the original games as members of freedom

[subtle bison]

Oh so yeah I guess freedom is fully Ukrainian then.

Because they just retconned the russian members

[mortal bloom]

No i saw black people there in freedom

[charred nova]

wasn't that only at zaton region

or am i mistaken

[mortal bloom]

There is no freedom on zaton

[charred nova]

no i know the only black guy i could think of was the bar keeper

but ill believe yah

[mortal bloom]

We were talking about freedom

[charred nova]

fair enough

[mortal bloom]

Weren't we

[charred nova]

no we were

thats my bad

[mortal bloom]

yeah

[charred nova]

unfortunately pal

looks like i was wrong

not all freedomers are ukranian

[mortal bloom]

also u can meet asian freedomer hanging out with his friends near rookies village

[charred nova]

bruh

[echo nimbus]

Isn't there one at the yaniv station as well

[charred nova]

bro already brought it up

[pale river]

What's with the ballistic mechanics of this game?? I have to shoot a Bandit 5 times or more with an AK before he goes down. This is nothing like how weapons work in Escape From Tarkov! Immersive Game my ass!

[mortal bloom]

I agree. Install some rebalance mods

[graceful dirge]

Use the mod "Better Ballistics"

[muted flame]

I have a npc blocking a doorway

what do i do, i cannot leave warlocks bar

[chilly bloom]

IM WATCHING THE BATTLE OF GODS

A PSUDOGIANT AND A CHIMERA ARE FIGHTING

[muted flame]

please dont let my gaem end beacuse a npc is cock blocking me

Im starting to get really pissed off now

how is this still a bug

[cedar bronze]

can you access the guide?

[muted flame]

No

[cedar bronze]

hmm.. odd.. the npc isn't moving at all?

is there an emmision going or something?

[muted flame]

no, he ran in here beacuse of the emmison

and now its been 2 days and hes just standing there

[cedar bronze]

rip.. I guess you gotta reload a save at this point..

[muted flame]

hes stanced up in the soor way blocking it

[cedar bronze]

maybe reply the save before the emmision and go in a different building.

[muted flame]

I didnt even entre this building duriong the emmison

[cedar bronze]

💀

[muted flame]

he went here on his own , imma instlal a console mod so i can noclip this shit

how is this still a bug tho man its been almost a year

[stuck seal]

I can’t tell if this is satire

[cedar bronze]

I mean bugs in stalker is a given at this point..

💀, specially when it's related to NPCs...

to this day, I'm often left wondering where I'm being shot from cus of that one npc that can see you though 2 walls and poke his gun through it..

[muted flame]

I expect like items going ballistic and stuff like that, not NPC crap, why not just make npcs force move if the player runs into them

[stuck seal]

soc fans when they’re trying to escort kruglov and he just straight up kills both himself and the players or jumps into an anomaly

[cedar bronze]

lol

[subtle bison]

In the og games?

[stuck seal]

I mean it seems anyone can join freedom, and with all the different people in the zone, freedom’s ranks would be pretty diverse

Is ranks even the right term?

[muted flame]

Cool, now that ive installed the console mod the crashes on start up

[stuck seal]

More like, freedom’s population? They don’t really have ranks…

[muted flame]

Im done what a fuckign perfect storm this game is

[dusk stag]

Is this where we can ask rules questions? If so, the RPO-44 has an accurate range of: -. Does this mean no accurate range and cannot hit double 2s?

[charred nova]

In stalker 2

[tardy rain]

Did you search Nexus for 'console' and download the first thing you could find?

[muted flame]

UEtools

It's recommended in every post I've read

[tardy rain]

lol

most recent comments on nexus are people complaining it breaks the game

and it hasn't been updated in 8 months

[muted flame]

Well what else am I to do

I've done over 3hrs of gameplay and he's still there

[tardy rain]

simple modloader or UE4SS

[muted flame]

Can you dm the links please I'm afk rn

[tardy rain]

sure

[muted flame]

Ty I'll look into them next time I game

[tardy rain]

but you have to promise you've learned your lesson about checking when mods were last updated

[muted flame]

Depends if you've just sent me 2 outdated mods or not

[tardy rain]

That's the next lesson; don't click on links from strangers

[muted flame]

I have decided to place my trust in you

This ain't the zone

[echo nimbus]

Lmao 🤣

[obtuse veldt]

oof

[chilly bloom]

I just watched someone from duty hang out with 3 guys from liberty

[fickle hill]

I had a bond of them in Zel both freedom and duty stacked on top of each other help Gaffer fight the monolith attack after everyone died

[chilly bloom]

Im so sad about zassilya tho

It glitched and i didnt know it was under attack

So all i heard was "dont come to zassilya all that is here is death"

[fickle hill]

In my run I wanted them to die but they never died no matter how many times I ran away

[chilly bloom]

Why?

[fickle hill]

Loot

Stashes every corpse counts

[chilly bloom]

Stashes in the lower zone arent even that geared

Its some 9×18, 9×19, and some consumables

[fickle hill]

You get a stash location randomly you can get one in the cordon and it will be located in cooling towers

[chilly bloom]

Ok

[fickle hill]

I only learned that the Grom S-15 is in one place and never once did it ever show up as a "stash"

[chilly bloom]

Ah

[fickle hill]

And I am also able to write down stash locations such as buckshot for the Rhino blueprints

[chilly bloom]

Ah

[pale river]

So noticing some bugs with A-Life where this group of Stalkers are constantly being shot at and not do anything except continue walking

I mean I can certainly hear them feeling the shots as they moan in pain but don't do anything at all about it

[lean viper]

Anyone know some Stalker music or the music that’s typically in videos or edits of it

[primal nimbus]

One of my favorite scenes

[subtle bison]

Stalkers: it is what it is

[stuck seal]

Weird, there’s a stash at the dam in yantar, you get the code to it from trucks at the car dump and chopper field, none of the trucks say 8 on them yet 8 is part of the code

One of the trucks has a 6 but the six isn’t a part of the code, I guess GSC made a typo

Or they thought that 6 was 8

[wintry pumice]

Why is he having fun?

[bitter stone]

Can someone tell me why I can’t search/loot mutants i get the grey X for the dead body’s from mutants but Iv never been able to look one and im in the garbage area now

[inland mantle]

Probably running an out of date mod

Check all your mods to see what they do exactly and which mods haven’t been updated since the last update

[wooden walrus]

Yeah that's the most likely explanation. Clear your mods.

[primal nimbus]

Completed Metro 2033, and got the bad/canon ending.

[shrewd needle]

This is why I use MapGenie.

[still current]

[weary hedge]

How is this game. I’ve been meaning to play it sometime in the near future

[pseudo crater]

A little piece of history.
A day like today 2505 years ago Leonidas said the epic phrase:
Μολών λαβέ = "come and get them"
And the most epic battle in the history of humanity started, where 301 men went against the biggest army ever assembled, giving them hell for 3 days and 3 nights. Still echoing through the ageless stones...

[spare canopy]

What's that?

[regal vine]

I’m stalking it

I’m about to stalker

[stuck seal]

I’m only slightly annoyed

It’s probably a reasonable mistake, I don’t think they would intentionally make the code have 8 despite there not being a hint there’s an 8 in there

[shrewd needle]

Maps of various games that show everything like item locations, quests, other notes as put up by the community.

[shrewd needle]

It's just easier for me; I like exploring the Zone to an extent, then it tires me.

[fickle hill]

"MY PRECIOUS"

[plucky lark]

Morning

[fickle hill]

Hi

[neon elk]

I need some opinions. I wanna learn some stalker guitar tracks but idk which one i should learn. I alr know how to play track 6 and 7. He was a good stalker and the ferris wheel of pripyat

[pseudo gate]

Bandits radio from CS bandits base is all you need

[compact plume]

sorry to be that guy but anyone know when the next set of mods come to xbox?

[pseudo gate]

Don't bother with the rest

[plucky lark]

Mods on Xbox?

[compact plume]

yes we have the mods thing i’m running quite a few, dynamic weather being the main one

[plucky lark]

Nice

[spare canopy]

Awesome... I use the online one, can't remember what it is called

[shrewd needle]

Yea, MapGenie is online.

[flint bobcat]

why do they release p2w content

[thin apex]

pinged and it's just gib us more money 🥀

[tame gazelle]

man ya'll missed an opportunity here GSC to add the NVGs to the deluxe version

[chrome jetty]

It's skins

Weapons and equipment skins

[tame gazelle]

imagine the great PR that would make

[tawdry oar]

meh got the ultimate already, but upgrade is always good

[thin apex]

OXA exists

[chrome jetty]

Why would NVGs be under DLC/additional paid content?

[flint bobcat]

oh I see

[chrome jetty]

You already have all of these with ultimate

[thin apex]

we already have NVG in free

[tawdry oar]

others might need the upgrade so yeah

[tame gazelle]

Why not

don't be greedy

[thin apex]

oxide just needs to get OXA onto console too

[serene barn]

upgrade packs, ok, but promised DLC when? lol

[shrewd needle]

HELL NO!

[left crystal]

No stalker 2 ultimate you're not true stalker fan

[fleet nymph]

So is multiplayer just a dead thing?

[pastel badge]

Give us more money! Please americans!

[hot meteor]

does the upgrade pack apply to gamepass editions? it's the one thing not mentioned in their faq

[fleet nymph]

Like did they give up on it? I bought the game thinking there was some sort of multiplayer because they said there would be “shortly after release”

[left crystal]

Hey why you have my pic?

[pastel badge]

Why you have mine?

[umbral garnet]

where do i see what edition i have

[left crystal]

No you have mine, you know it's mine

[pastel badge]

Yours is shooped. I am orignal

[left crystal]

Nope

[severe light]

Hello, I'm looking to upgrade my Stalker game once it gets more updates so I can get back to it fully. However, how do you obtain the additional item? Is it "given" to you, or are these new items available to buy / find? I don't want to start a new playthrough with OP stuff, I'd like to deserve it

[gloomy citrus]

Good question, what do you say? @sour wasp

[lament dust]

I'd buy the ultimate if it came with 50% more fps pack

[left crystal]

No scattered around the map as you progress

They are stashes so you have to go get them

[severe light]

Thank you so much! Definitely will get the upgrade then

[gloomy citrus]

There will be a quest that gives you all the locations of the aformentioned bonuses from deluxe and ultimate editions. You just need to complete the 1st chapter of the story.

[lofty nexus]

So when is stalker 2 gonna be good like the original trilogy

[severe light]

Just perfect, thanks

[zenith cradle]

never

[pastel badge]

Is the whole north side of the map dead? Have any quests been added or is it still deserted

[lofty nexus]

I think I would rather endure the pain of gamma than play through the rest of my boring ass stalker playthrough

[left crystal]

Don't think much been added

The CNPP itself not accessible yet hahaha

[pastel badge]

At least concord was open about being trash. Stalker 2 has been the biggest bait and switch in gaming history

[gloomy citrus]

Iron Forest and CNPP are still locked. Though there will be new areas to explore in the upcoming DLCs.

#📜┃gsc-answers message

[left crystal]

Sure sure ik

Played it once tho and still waiting

[gloomy citrus]

People been expecting Limansk since forever.

[left crystal]

Take it easy xD

[pastel badge]

Prove me wrong

[tranquil jewel]

Its a shame I don’t have image perms cause I have a perfect jak for you.

[gloomy citrus]

But hey I always like the CNPP area. Its just wide and huge.

[hardy totem]

Your pfps make this convo very confusing

[weary hedge]

I just want a battle pass already

[left crystal]

Yeah one is made by huge AAA company with big budget and peaceful country the other is made by small studio that's in war and lost a bunch of people

And still came with an acceptable game

[pastel badge]

Bro lethal company had more content on launch

It's okay to admit we got fleeced.

[weary hedge]

Blatantly false

[lofty nexus]

Just dm it to me I wanna see

[runic minnow]

No it didn’t brah

[gloomy citrus]

Doesnt take long for S2 to be good since release no?

[left crystal]

Lol, are you even playing the game?

[sour wasp]

I will try to clarify your question, as I do not have an answer at the moment.

[gloomy citrus]

Theres always something fixed in every patches which is good.

[left crystal]

Sure it lacks side quests and a lot of running, but the main story isn't actually bad

[frigid hill]

ur_boi_phrog has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hot meteor]

Thank you!

[weary hedge]

It does but if it ever leaves gamepass ur down a game with a dlc

[lofty nexus]

Buh

[surreal aurora]

As far as a main release of S2, it was solid. I enjoyed it a ton. But as someone who's played it for 300+ hours, I'm ready for some more content/DLC. I'm reeling for it, but I'll also be patient for it.

[umbral garnet]

where do i see what edition i have

[left crystal]

Btw last time I played the game was at 1.3 but ik it's been much better and they are giving what people want

[lofty nexus]

I love paying 120 to play walk around with my mah thumb up my butt to do a bs quest simulator

[gloomy citrus]

Which platform? I can only tell Steam.

[umbral garnet]

steam yes

[umbral garnet]

belive it or not, many many many people enjoy this.

[runic minnow]

Game just needs more optimization and better emissions

[umbral garnet]

i am one of than many many many

[gloomy citrus]

When you're about to click play, scroll down a bit. There should be a DLC window to your right.

[runic minnow]

Multiplayer would actually be so fire for stalker 2

[left crystal]

xD I played $55 for ultimate on preorder

[weary hedge]

Gun plays pretty tight when the npcs don’t beam you 5 miles away

[trail fiber]

Howdy from the Midwest

[weary hedge]

Howdy gamer

[hardy totem]

Great! Enjoy your purchase and have a fantastic day

[gloomy citrus]

A bit unfortunate that Stalker never had co-op mode where you can explore the zone with friends. The most common thing would be pushing your so called friend into an anomaly.

[left crystal]

Hahahahaha the guy is looking for the day when he could push his friend into an anomaly

[dusky sequoia]

how expensive the dlcs will be you guys think ? Trying to guess if the ultimate upgrade is worth it (I don't care about unique guns and suits)

[weary hedge]

That’s the whole dlcs😭

[trail fiber]

How are yall

[umbral garnet]

far cry 6 did good multiplayer. nothing changes just the ability to be 2 people and do the story together

[left crystal]

That's called co-op more than multiplayer

[dusky sequoia]

I mean, when I say DLCs I talk about the story expansions

[gloomy citrus]

That depends on whatever currency you're using and they're on discount too.

[weary hedge]

Nothings confirmed yet

[wild creek]

just upgraded to the ultimate edition 🥳🥳

[left crystal]

Congrats

[dusky sequoia]

38euros for some guns 😫

[gloomy citrus]

#📜┃gsc-answers message

I believe there will be additional quests.

[warm stone]

sigh....thought they will announce the roadmap for q3

[wild creek]

and support for the devs ❤️

[weary hedge]

Pretty much

[sour wasp]

Yes, it will work for the Game Pass version.

[runic minnow]

watching as my friend walks into and gets pulled apart into a million pieces by a whirligig because he was scrolling Instagram reels

[trail fiber]

Far Cry 6 was alright

Only You

And yes im talking about how trippy Jacob Seed trials were when you heard that old song

[left crystal]

Yup yup, no insta in the zone my friend

Or no one dares and lives to tell the story

[warm stone]

i feel a bit let down, given how slow the progress is. No word of any DLC, or the MP part....

[sturdy verge]

will the upgrade still be available after the limited sale?

[obtuse veldt]

Yes

[river geyser]

Edition upgrades came and yet still no multiplayer. What did they mean by this.

[gloomy citrus]

Its still in the works. I believe the devs are still busy optimizing the game as top priority.

#📜┃gsc-answers message

You know what they say, theres always room for improvements.

#📜┃gsc-answers message

[umbral garnet]

true

[lofty nexus]

Oh I agree I do wish there was an option to simulate more realistic recoil though

[umbral garnet]

wish they added more content and immersion like stalker, although when you end far cry 6 it makes it so each week the enemies capture territory back so if you capture all enemy stuff, then do the final mission and come back some months later all your progress is gone

[gloomy citrus]

Oh right, that counts as A-Life improvement.

[trail fiber]

Yeah, FC6 does that, when you capture a enemy territory, they come back and take it back

Or probably after the story is completed

[umbral garnet]

cant drive 100 meters without having to stop to capture a checkpoint 🙏

[warm stone]

i mean yeah, better late than never. Still, it would be nice if they could speed up a bit

[trail fiber]

Same here, I had a stupid remake from Thousand Hours from Sonora Dinamita but instead of Mil Horas, it is Guapo the alligator

Im like God that song got stuck in my head when I had guapo with me

[dreamy dagger]

8 months for editions upgrade. Hiludacrious.

[lofty nexus]

And two new guns

[quartz hollow]

Only gsc would release a deluxe and ultimate edition despite their game still being broken lol

[lost needle]

Announcement so fire im upgrading my shit rn

[fiery yew]

These were announced and released when the game originally came out.

[hot meteor]

Thank you for the answer!

[terse ravine]

whats the bonus quest you get from the upgrades

[sterile radish]

for the journalist?

[terse ravine]

oh alright, i wasn't sure if that was the quest since its basically a fetch quest

do you know what the campfire pre-order bonus was?

[sterile radish]

if I recall, it should include extra guitar melodies/stories

[echo nimbus]

finally upgraded stalker 2 was it worth it? prob not did i do it? hell yeah

[maiden creek]

yo so ive uopgrade stlaker 2

but when i went ot the osundtrack and artbook the foldere is empty

please help

[echo nimbus]

try verifying ur games integrity

[shrewd needle]

Game has broken ballistics...never had integrity since v1.0. 😏

[maiden creek]

it said 0 files have bveen verify

ive also verify the gmaes too

when i click download album, it states that i am downloading a 0kb fiels

[lofty nexus]

They have been out since release I made the mistake of buying ultimate

Although the game has potential

[echo nimbus]

try restarting steam

[plucky pasture]

BROO where is Ray trading

[maiden creek]

already did

ive restart pc too

[cerulean copper]

Yo! So now that we can update editions, I have the limited physical edition on steam, but I only see standard to deluxe, deluxe to ulti, and standard to ultimate edition available

If I want to upgrade to ultimate, would I be categorized as deluxe?

[maiden creek]

if u already have deluxe version then buy the from deluxe to ultimate version

[cerulean copper]

mine is called li,ited edition nit deluxe

[maiden creek]

im confused, okey, tell me do u have stalekr 2 ost and artbook?( in ur soundtrack on steam)

[cerulean copper]

No. only preorder bonuses (physical stuff & journalist quest)

[maiden creek]

i see, so right now u are in stnadard edition, so if u want to upgrade to ultimate then choose standard to deluxe

*choose standard to ultimate

[cerulean copper]

got it thanks!

[still current]

[meager crag]

[honest ferry]

[chilly leaf]

Really want to like the svdm but using only one version of the 7.62x54 ammo kinda killed it for me

Just using three line rn

[shrewd needle]

SVD can't use more than one type of bullet now?

[honest ferry]

it can use AP and high grade

same with svu

[cedar stag]

i wonder... how would they even implement a Battlepass to Stalker 2
i mean i have the preorder ultimate edition but i have no idea where that would even fit

[shrewd needle]

There's a 'high-grade' now? WTF?

Why couldn't we just stick to realistic ones like they were?

Ball, AP, expansive, high-velocity...like...WTF does 'high-grade' even mean?

[stuck seal]

…

There are higher quality rounds made for snipers

Usually higher calibers get these kinds of ammunition types

I don’t know their exact designation but it’s used for both military and sporting use

They exist for 7.62x51 and 54 irl from what I know

But there are of course other calibers as well

[somber pecan]

Stuff like match-grade

I think the difference realistically would be slug weight and powder load

Round pressure, n such

[distant perch]

Hi

[obtuse veldt]

Cant use regulars, only AP and High Quality AKA Flat ammo

Same thing for SVDM MK3 and M701

[frigid hill]

timothy6952 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[plain fiber]

So shit is fine but bullsh*t isn't? That makes tons of sense.

[somber rose]

There are like, 8 different variants of 5.56.

[chilly leaf]

I realized that like as soon as I got it then swapped to the three line lol

I mean high damage is cool but id like more than 20 shots thank you lol

[plain fiber]

Anyways!

@shrewd needle At least the game has ballistics that can be improved down the line. I had someone once declare that the game didn't have any at all, which is BS considering I have to adjust barrel height when using a Vintorez.

[chilly leaf]

Just need to find a place to buy good scopes

[somber rose]

Amnesia, if I recall, doesn't desire actual ballistic modeling

[plain fiber]

Uh...why? We had it in the original trilogy, we should have it in S2.

[somber rose]

Says "it's a game" and "Better Ballistics is good enough". I dunno, seemed weird.

[plain fiber]

Yeah...I'd rather GSC improve that on their own rather than relying wholly on mods to improve it.

And so what if it's a game? When the expanded spawn/A-Life bubble inevitably comes, I want to be able to properly snipe, not just beam enemies in the head with a hit-scan laser.

[somber rose]

Yeah I don't understand his position at all. Seems to be under the impression that ballistics are demanding to simulate

[plain fiber]

Doesn't Unreal also have native ballistic simulation?

[somber rose]

"Uh...everyone? STALKER is not a simulator, so trying to simulate 100% ballistics is an exercise in futility."

[spare canopy]

I would like to which idiot it was to f*ck up the top of the cooling towers, remove the little plank and test of faith.

None of it is there anymore.... For No fecking reason.

Why are GCS hellbent on making everything shit.

[somber rose]

It's also silly there are invisible walls preventing you from going all the way around

[spare canopy]

Like WTAF!!

Seriously, sack the twat that is making these insane design choices.

[plain fiber]

That's such a terrible argument lol. One thing I've always liked about S.T.A.L.K.E.R. was how it was hard sci-fi; everything remained relatively grounded with realtiy, and I felt like the realistic ballistics played a part in that.

[somber rose]

Agreed.

[plain fiber]

@waxen marten Hey Mol1t, what did happen with that plank? Do you know what the reasoning was for it being removed?

[spare canopy]

So where is there safe jumping spot now?

What is the point in a f--king death counter, if everything is so f--king broken in this game?

Game development by morons, 101.

[plain fiber]

Alright, be nice now.

[spare canopy]

no, they no to understand and just stop fecking everything up.

[plain fiber]

I highly, highly doubt that it's actually that black & white. Developers generally don't go around deliberately screwing up their game.

[somber rose]

This is not worth getting upset over.

[plain fiber]

Whatever GSC's reasoning, I'm sure it's something that can easily be added back in, either by them or by a modder.

[spare canopy]

Oh really, the top of the cooling towers was perfectly fine the way it was.... Not it's a frustrating loading simulator, trying to get down again from the fecking thing... and what for a red fecking gun and invisible walls...

It really is black and white...

[somber rose]

Yeah, but your emotional investment is disproportionate to the issue.

[plain fiber]

I wonder if they might be redesigning it or something? I remember having issues where even though it looked like I was aiming in the right spot, I'd splatter against the ground.

[somber rose]

I'd appreciate a redesign up there.

[kindred timber]

This ain’t entirely right btw, there was some limited involvement from GSC even though it was mostly outsourced. But GSC did the QA (which they are fully to blame for, considering how many issues with this release slipped through) and community managers even created the achievements. I mean the ideas, not the technical implementation, but you get the gist.

[plain fiber]

If I remember correctly, you'd also slide against the side of the tower if you didn't get enough distance with your jump. It didn't hurt you or anything, but I did always find that a bit immersion-breaking.

[spare canopy]

No, my response to hundreds of stupid frustrations in this game.

Not just this one thing... Spawn simulator is back with fecking bloodsuckers everywhere, constant spawns in two's in three's...

Every time they update this game, they make it worse.

Some whitless wonder makes changes to the game for no reason, and makes it worse.

[plain fiber]

I'll be honest, even with the mistakes and missteps GSC has done, I'd feel better if they fully took over the development of the EEs. Are they doing the patches or is that also being done by the outsourced team?

[somber rose]

Still not worth getting angry over.

[spare canopy]

I am not angry, just being brutally honest about this sack of shyte.

[somber rose]

You are very, very, clearly angry.

[plain fiber]

Every time they update this game, they make it worse.

Welcome to the wonderful world of programming a video game. Everything is interconnected, so when you change one thing, you now have to change everything that it was connected to and make sure stuff isn't breaking.

I've only very lightly dabbled in game dev, but I can't imagine how much of a pain in the ass it is to get a game as complex as S2 functioing properly.

[spare canopy]

no, no I am not.

[spare canopy]

Come on.

99% of developers make their games better over time. So don't pull that one on me.

[shrewd needle]

Yea, I know about match-grade, but I figured that was the 'Flat'.

[plain fiber]

But they have made the game better over time. Just because there are still issues doesn't mean it hasn't gotten better, because it objectively has.

[somber rose]

"DON'T PULL THAT ON ME!! THIS GAME IS SHYTE!!! I'M NOT ANGRY"

[kindred timber]

I am not fully aware of the extent, but there have definitely been traces of involvement from both.

[shrewd needle]

Yes, I'm aware of that.

[shrewd needle]

I know, but again, I figured that was the 'Flat'...high-velocity, match-grade made for higher accuracy over longer distances.

[shrewd needle]

Shame, TBF...ball ammunition is basically the same and locking it out...hopefully, Better Ballistics fixes it.

[shrewd needle]

So would I, NGL...

[shrewd needle]

That, I agree with.

[spare canopy]

Yes, the game is shyte, it has got worse and most developers do improve their game over time.

All S2 has got going for it sound, atmosphere and graphics... everything else is broken as F.... A-life, your having a laugh!

I stopped playing for months, and keep trying to give it a go, coz I loved SoC so much, but this game is getting worse, and being developed by clueless children.

[somber rose]

Bruh you're acting like a child.

[shrewd needle]

I'd said that I didn't want 100% realistic ballistics; if you're going to model how heat changes barrel deformation and affects accuracy, it's going to be off-putting.

There's realistic enough and reality simulation.

[plain fiber]

Thank you for clarifying. And yeah, I'm okay with not haveing 100% true-to-life ballistic simulation, but I would like what we have now to be improved.

[spare canopy]

No, I am behonest and calling it for what it is.

Getting tired os so much of a game being broken that £50 for... is not what I like to spend my money on.

[somber rose]

The way you talk about it makes it sound like you're about to truck bomb GSC. Just be aware of that.

[shrewd needle]

Exactly. Decanus just likes to twist the argument to his favour and talk complete nonsense which is why I blocked him.

[spare canopy]

You just want gun balastics to make sense with as much accuracy as entertainingly possible... It's game, but you can aim for great ballistics though.

[plain fiber]

being developed by clueless children

You do know that there are OGs still with the company right? It's not just a bunch of fresh college graduates, and they almost certainly hired new people with experience as well.

[somber rose]

I quoted you directly.

[shrewd needle]

Great doesn't mean you need to simulate reality, which is what he wants.

[stuck seal]

Idk why people expect stalker to be a realistic game, it never was

[shrewd needle]

There's a point where it gets both pedantic, problematic to simulate and just overall not fun in a game meant to be fun.

[spare canopy]

Yeah, and the decent ones left and made the metro series.

[hardy totem]

https://tenor.com/view/stalking-gif-23099546

[somber rose]

For instance.

[shrewd needle]

Exactly. There's certainly a lot of grounding, but it's not a reality simulator.

[meager crag]

I don't know why people expected HoC to be good to begin with

[plain fiber]

Pretty sure that happened before Clear Sky. The teams changed with each entry of the trilogy iirc.

[shrewd needle]

TBF, HoC is better than what a lot of modern games are.

[somber rose]

worse ballistics than CoD though right

[spare canopy]

And after most probably too.

[plain fiber]

Well the CEO at the time wasn't great, but even still, the gaming industry has a lot of turnover in it. People leaving or being laid off after a project is finished isn't uncommon.

[stuck seal]

What does ballistics mean in this case? Bullet affects on the body or bullet performance in things like travel and drop

[meager crag]

Debatable, but yes, modern AAA games are mostly a joke

[spare canopy]

Locking weapon strength behind story progress is the worst kind of ballistics in game there is.

As non of it makes sence at all.

[somber rose]

Whatever Amnesia wants it to mean

[shrewd needle]

Yes, so compared to that, HoC is A LOT better and actually functional.

[stuck seal]

Weapon strengths?

[shrewd needle]

I meant the game in general; I agree with the weapons being screwed otherwise.

[meager crag]

I'll stick to the TrilOG if you don't mind

[spare canopy]

If you use mods.

[spare canopy]

That's a fair argument.

[shrewd needle]

I mean vanilla S2 is in a lot better state than what modern games generally ship with.

[plain fiber]

Combination of all of it. There are two mods right now iirc that improve the ballistics of the bullets themselves, and one that improves how they affect NPCs.

[plain fiber]

They did that in Shadow of Chernobyl.

[stuck seal]

The only thing I see wrong with the bullets is how 9x39 drops like a mortar

[spare canopy]

Once I got the 5k, I never used another weapon.

just swapped the ammo, AP or normal, only 2 I ever used.

[stuck seal]

Man portable zone mortar system

[meager crag]

Same with all the games, it's just that SoC's weapons are tiered while CS and CoP had at least some balancing to allow some play choice on what they prefer

[shrewd needle]

Also, back during the original argument with Decanus, I'd said that CoD has better ballistics than S2; he also took that argument and twisted it around.

Because at least in CoD, you don't need 500 bullets to kill someone because someone decided all weapons to have extremely shit damage, which is what S2 does even if it models ballistics.

[somber rose]

"I'm pretty sure stalker 2 has hit-scan"

[shrewd needle]

When a rifle can't kill a Bloodsucker in 1 magazine, you know CoD does it better...

[plain fiber]

Does it still do it with the GROZA? I'm pretty sure on the Vintorez and VAL it's supposed to simulate the rounds being sub-sonic or something.

[meager crag]

Or the Trilogy

[plain fiber]

Bloodsuckers also have too much health and armor. Frankly, mutants shouldn't have any armor value, just health. Well, except for maybe the pseudogiant.

[hardy totem]

Why wouldn't it with the groza? Subsonic rounds are subsonic rounds

[stuck seal]

At launch I killed the tutorial sucker with a mag and a half from the ak

[shrewd needle]

Yep, that's why I brought up CoD; it's such a low bar, that if you can't cross that in terms of weapon damage, there's a genuine skill issue.

[stuck seal]

But since then it’s a lot harder to kill ‘em

Buckshot is my savior though

[shrewd needle]

Actually, Groza would be slightly worse due to shorter barrel?

[stuck seal]

CoD is also built around arcade arena pvp gameplay so I don’t think that’s even like fair

[hardy totem]

I couldn't tell you if barrel length is the only factor influencing that, but I doubt it

[shrewd needle]

I was talking specifically about ballistics, not the entire game. Even more specifically, weapon damage.

Basically using an extreme example to make a point.

[plain fiber]

Right, but it's never been explicitly stated that ALL of the 9x39 rounds we see are subsonic. The Vintorez and VAL have the integrated suppressors, and I believe were meant to function at their best with subsonic ammunition, which is why I was wondering if it was based on the gun more than the ammo in this case. (I know that's not realistic, I'm thinking in terms of game design here.)

[stuck seal]

I’ve seen the SR3M shoot and rounds drop after like 100 meters

[shrewd needle]

No, I'm saying that the VSS and the VAL have longer barrels, so they'd help the 9 X 39 perform peak (400 metres range or something?)...

Groza would probably do less damage purely from barrel length, but yes, I know other factors would influence...hence being abstracted into lower damage and lower range, I figure.

[stuck seal]

But that’s also a shorter barrel

[chilly leaf]

I just see people talking about how there are spawns of multiple blood suckers when it takes like 4-5 point blank shotgun blasts to kill one right now

[charred nova]

If they did the qa that’s a big rough

[shrewd needle]

Uh, I thought 9 X 39 was designed to be sub-sonic?

[shrewd needle]

I mean...I generally get 2 on me. Randomly.

[plain fiber]

I think it has subsonic and supersonic variants?

Hang on, I'm looking at the Wikipedia article right now.

[shrewd needle]

All rounds show as 280-320 metres/second.

[plain fiber]

Hold on.

[stuck seal]

Just kinda funny that the vss is seen as a marksman rifle yet if it is used with its intended ammo it doesn’t have a lot of range, 200 meters practical range

I guess it’s like an urban marksman

[shrewd needle]

I mean, that's also the best place to use suppressors too; wouldn't make much sense in an open field.

Not that suppressors are useless, just priority, I guess.

[frigid hill]

dark_dezo_f has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[plain fiber]

@shrewd needle Wow, I'm blind as hell, it says right at the top of the article below the title: "Soviet subsonic rifle cartridge"

[vapid galleon]

How many years in that fu**ing Zone mate?

[plain fiber]

So...the intense bullet drop is meant to simulate that I would assume.

[shrewd needle]

Yep, the cartridge is designed to be sub-sonic, so the VSS/VAL would provide peak performance due to long barrels and the Groza would rely more on urban-combat-style high-calibre damage (but with lower terminal performance).

[shrewd needle]

A bit too intense in-game, TBF.

[inland sage]

I can't help but feel it's a bit too intense bullet drop but 🤷

[kindred timber]

There are quite a few GSC names in credits yeah, QA is among them.

[shrewd needle]

I mean, the VSS in Clear Sky dropped at 100 metres...which is like 25% of the actual range.

[hardy totem]

All bulletdrop is too intense in S2

[plain fiber]

I believe that the GROZA, the Vintorez, and the VAL were intended for use by special forces in urban environments, so the low range wouldn't be that big of an issue.

[shrewd needle]

Same in trilogy, though, as above.

[inland sage]

...shockingly my repair bill is only 37k coupons for my equipped stuff

[stuck seal]

only

[plain fiber]

I mean, what's the saying? "No plan survives contact with the enemy"? I'm pretty sure that phrase applies to software and game development.

[shrewd needle]

Yep. But overall, the VSS would be good for sniping from a high-rise, whereas Groza would be useless at that range, since it'd probably both lose terminal performance and bullet dispersion would also be an issue?

[inland sage]

...yeah, only. My SSP-1001 Survey armor is at 19%.

I haven't even gotten to the cost of the weapons I had to unequip because of increasing jam rate or running out of ammo.

[shrewd needle]

Lower difficulty when repairing/upgrading/buying/selling. Raise it later.

[stuck seal]

That’s cheating lol

[shrewd needle]

I mean...in this economy, everyone needs a cheat.

[stuck seal]

Thinking like a bandit

[shrewd needle]

Be glad S2 doesn't model inflation. Or you'd be Sidorovich's slave by now.

[inland sage]

...I had 100k coupons, I don't think I needed to change the difficulty for that.

[shrewd needle]

You do; lower difficulties provide better rates (both purchases and sales). Save more money in the long run.

[inland sage]

It just doesn't matter enough to me to do that.

[plain fiber]

Oh sure, the Vintorez probably was built for sniping or at least marksmanship, but only at shorter ranges like you're saying.

Considering the Groza is a bullpup and can come with an integrated grenade launcher, I always assumed it was meant as a CQC assault weapon or something along those lines; not really meant to go beyond medium-range.

[stuck seal]

I had 300k, and then I bought recklessly…..

[inland sage]

So go out into the zone and earn more coupons

[shrewd needle]

Imagine earning just 3000 for a mission and spending 300,000.

[inland sage]

I got a magic cube now though so that'll help with not dying

[kindred timber]

Yeah I get it that they actually saw it all as an improvement. Which is arguably even more disappointing.

When I saw the guy who remade the HUD put it into his Artstation like a valuable piece of portfolio he was proud of, I was baffled. How can you not see how bad it is?

[inland sage]

I ran into my first monolith patrol on my way to the Skadovsk after SIRCAA and died to death since I wasn't ready, then after I loaded and went to fight them they got butchered by a bloodsucker before I could really fight them much.

[shrewd needle]

Yep, Wikipedia lists the effective range of the Groza as 200 metres and the VSS as 300-400 metres, so I guess barrel length makes a big difference + possibly using normal ammunition in the Groza and high-quality rounds in the VSS...

So, likely that 'Flat' ensures the VSS' normal range, whereas FMJ/AP/Expansive would be around 300 in the VSS and 200 in the Groza.

Also, Groza would probably do better with suppressor and flat, but we don't talk about that.

[spare canopy]

or just use a repair mod that makes sense

[inland sage]

Plus ammo you find in the zone isn't likely to be great quality anyways, even if it's the better stuff.

[plain fiber]

I mean, if it was ArtStation, it might not necessarily be that he was proud of it, it was just something to add to the porfolio. Like "Here's something that I did.".

[shrewd needle]

Or a trainer; that's just easier. Unlimited weight and self-repairing stuff.

[shrewd needle]

What HUD?

[spare canopy]

Cant stand cheating and thats cheating

[meager crag]

I also feel like it's also a matter of the caliber. I'm absolutely no expert, but at least in-game (Trilogy), 9x39mm has less velocity compared to other rifle calibers. When looking at the Tunder S14 and the Storm, the Storm does indeed feel more like a versatile weapon good at short and medium range where the Tunder S14 feels better for close-range engagements

[plain fiber]

Nah, they have no difficulty getting high-quality stuff into the Zone. The black market economy there is clearly a thriving, well-oiled machine.

[shrewd needle]

Well, a game's supposed to be fun, so I'd rather cheat than be frustrated. Also, blame the economy, else I wouldn't need to.

[shrewd needle]

But of course (and fairly realistic, I guess).

[plain fiber]

Yeah, the 5.45 version of the Groza in-game actually does feel different to the 9x39 version. I swear it even looked like the bullets were moving faster.

[plain fiber]

It's a single-player game, who gives a shit?

[inland sage]

Now that's buying. I'm talking about the ammo you find on a blood covered shelf or in a musty old bunker full of skeletons and zombies.

[meager crag]

• the Storm has a 3-round burst fire mode, supporting this kind of gunplay style as well

[inland sage]

Or on one of the hundreds of corpses you create during your time in the Zone.

[plain fiber]

Oh that stuff. Yeah, that stuff probably isn't in the best condition.

[shrewd needle]

That's storage by random stalkers that you steal from. 😏

[kindred timber]

It was very important for me to keep the original cozy and nostalgic style that many fans love. I really hope I managed to refresh the interface while keeping its spirit.

[meager crag]

The Tunder S14 only has an automatic and semi-automatic mode (CoP)

[hardy totem]

"Full repairs? In this economy!?"

[plain fiber]

Oh dear.

[kindred timber]

Yeah. That.

[plain fiber]

Oh dear...

[meager crag]

HoC?

[plain fiber]

Trilogy EEs.

[shrewd needle]

I'm confused.

[inland sage]

I like just going out and shooting some bandits and maybe finding some stashes and then selling loot...so I tend to have enough coupons for my needs.

[meager crag]

Oh, eh, who cares. it's TrilogEE. TrilOG is obviously superior

[plain fiber]

I kind of wish GSC had just put out bug fixes and other improvements for the original versions for PC via a patch or two and made the EEs console-exclusive or something.

Maybe that just wasn't possible or practical? Idk.

[kindred timber]

EE HUD remake by Ed Streltsov, quote from his Artstation.

[spare canopy]

The problem is that GCS did everything half asked... Like the never fully committed to anything.

You have food and hunger mechanics... But food is everywhere,, you literally eat 40 sausages a day, which is an utter joke.

So you either need to food really scarce, only purchase able from bars and bases, then the food you need to buy needs to be perishable, or failing that, food just gives you buffs to stamina for a few hours, until you next eat your buff... But as it is, the food mechanic is just a fecking joke, half asked and poorly implemented. Just like every other mechanic in this game.

Including the economy. So rather than cheating, I just wish GSC got the bloody act together and sort this mess of a game.~

No one should have to cheat to to get around poorly designed fecked up mechanics.

[meager crag]

"remake"

[kindred timber]

people BEGGED for achievements and gamepad support.

[meager crag]

Downgrade

[inland sage]

Food is a weight issue for inventory

[meager crag]

The original is literally better lmfao

[kindred timber]

Of course it is. We all know it. The problem is, that guy doesn't understand that what he did is a downgraded soulless HUD in higher res.

[hardy totem]

My headcanon is that skiff takes a bite from a sausage and then yeets it over his shoulder. He doesn't eat all that, he's just very wasteful

[plain fiber]

Oh I know, but did that really require a full remaster? Couldn't that stuff be added through patches?

[meager crag]

And this was back in 2020

Quite the meme

[plain fiber]

The survival mechanics in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. have never been super important. It was like this in the original trilogy too.

[shrewd needle]

Well said; I agree completely. Which is why I have to cheat.

I also cheated in the trilogy, but the ONLY cheat I used was unlimited weight (never compromising on that). And even that's because modifying shit in the files doesn't work, for some reason.

Other than that, I never felt the need to cheat because the games were so well-made, it's not even funny.

[plain fiber]

Really? They actually couldn't do WASD and Ctrl? Come on man, if I could figure that shit out as a kid you can do it as an adult.

[meager crag]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[spare canopy]

Then don't put them in, they just annoying and frustrating most of the time.

The nature of the zone means, they game, IMO, would well suited for something more serious, with proper mechanics...#

[shrewd needle]

Is that a joke? Like, I get the whole 'can't do everything with one hand', but like...really?

[meager crag]

I sure hope so

[kindred timber]

The remaster plans were here as early as 2021, from what I know.

I did expect them to do more than AI texture upscale, though.

[frigid hill]

timothy6952 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[shrewd needle]

I mean, I do agree with the core of the argument (using P to open PDA when your hand's on the other end is basically stupidity).

But that's why re-binds exist.

[hardy totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1304803649171488838/1305581757256564746/lv_0_20241001214630.gif

[kindred timber]

It's hard to talk about the mess EE is without those.

[meager crag]

I don't mind it

[plain fiber]

I mean, if you want hardcore survival, you play MISERY or something that uses it as a base like Anomaly or GAMMA.

[meager crag]

It makes sense

P for PDA

I for Inventory

[shrewd needle]

Yea, but reaching for it is an exercise in pain.

[meager crag]

O for... detectOr...?

[plain fiber]

Lol, yeah I never got that one either. Unless....what's the Ukrainian and Russian words for detector?

[meager crag]

L for Flashlight also makes sense asf

[shrewd needle]

It's why I re-bound it...F1 for PDA, F2 for map, F3 for the first set and F4 for second set of hot-keys.

Simple and easy, without moving the hand ever.

[plain fiber]

Yep, L for Light.

[meager crag]

Honestly, it's probably because it's between I and P

[shrewd needle]

I prefer F. Much closer.

Unironically, it can't be re-bound, which is a pain.

[meager crag]

And what about the quickbinds of CoP for stuff like food and medkits?

[meager crag]

F already opens doors or interacts with inventories, so what is that one then?

[shrewd needle]

F3 and F4, as I said above (which works since, unlike CoP, one key is used for 2 functions).

[shrewd needle]

Use key will ALWAYS be E. That's never changing.

It's been that way since eternity and whoever decided to change it to F needs a bonk in the head.

[meager crag]

Then how do you strafe to the right?

[plain fiber]

Improvements to the survival mechanics in S2 are probably coming. I remember what we had in CoP was a noticeable change and improvement from SoC and CS, but it was clearly more experimental.

S2 does apparently have stuff in the code for a Master difficulty, which I imagine they might want to use as the game's hardcore difficulty, including survival mechanics.

[shrewd needle]

Q. D is for 'duck/crouch'.

[plain fiber]

????

[shrewd needle]

Ctrl is for 'I forgot right now'.

[spare canopy]

Yup, it really is bad sign opf how poor a game is, when tyhe first thing you do is install 20 mods, just make the game half make sense. Just get ride of the garbage the devs are churning out, coz they litterally have no idea what they are doing. Or at least the people who signing off on stuff don't.

There is very little consistency in this game, between anything, not a lot makes sense at all.

[chilly leaf]

Its always fascinating seeing the different keys people use for things

[shrewd needle]

What?

[plain fiber]

You rebound duck and crouch to Q and D?

[meager crag]

Lemme guess, movement = arrow keys?

[plain fiber]

God, I feel like I'm watching that walkthrough of F.E.A.R.: Perseus Mandate all over again.

[hardy totem]

Where would I bind lean left and right on a guitar-hero guitar?

[shrewd needle]

I did have to install at least 9 (and that's rare; since I only needed the Reclamation Projects for the trilogy)...so yea, I agree.

[meager crag]

Best DLC fr

[chilly leaf]

Yooooo you're not even wrong only mods I use is one that lowers weight to 75% of what it usually is and another mod that increases the ledge grab mechanic by a little bit

[shrewd needle]

D for 'duck' (IDK what game had that instead of 'crouch', but it stuck). And since I couldn't use D to strafe, I use Q for it.

[plain fiber]

I've never felt the need to install mods yet. Plus I don't want to have to worry about compatibility issues for when the next patch or hotfix drops.

[shrewd needle]

That ledge-grab needs to be vanilla; Skif basically has no skills at climbing.

CJ had better skills in 2004.

[meager crag]

D isn't strafe normally

[plain fiber]

I'm hoping that GSC implements that at some point.

[shrewd needle]

Uh...D is for strafing right, though, for most people? A = strafe left and D = strafe right?

[meager crag]

Oh

That strafe

I meant looking around corners

[plain fiber]

You're correct.

[shrewd needle]

They can't even implement guns properly...imagine fixing the actual game.

[meager crag]

[hardy totem]

Strafing is not leaning

[plain fiber]

You mean leaning?

[meager crag]

Aye

Somehow got the terms mixed up

Not even sure how

[shrewd needle]

Oh, I bound that to, uh...I think X and C.

[chilly leaf]

Honestly thats one mechanic that made me really like this game, no other fps I've played has that

[hardy totem]

Second language stuff

[plain fiber]

I've never had any major issues with the guns?

[meager crag]

Nuh-uh

[spare canopy]

Where did I say hardcore survival?

So why are you putting words in my mouth?

I said the game lends it's self to a more serious approach... The sound, the atmosphere, the graphics, deserve something that is serious, and has effort put in to things...

And what is exactly hardcore about buying food bars and bases? Before you set out in the morning...

Or not spawning things every fecking five feet?

[meager crag]

Third

[shrewd needle]

Skill issue. 😏

[hardy totem]

THIRD

[meager crag]

And even then, I somehow thought that was the term they used in-game

[hardy totem]

right

[chilly leaf]

I bound the peaking to the mouse buttons on both sides of my mouse for realism lol

[shrewd needle]

I have only 2 buttons, so I don't get that luxury, unfortunately.

[chilly leaf]

Shotguns feel iffy but besides that not really

[shrewd needle]

The ballistics, I mean. Same thing either ways.

[spare canopy]

Then the bar you set for games is almost non existent.

[meager crag]

Wy kwam fram Fryslan

[chilly leaf]

Ay trust me invest ina. Good mouse, shi makes gaming so much convenient

[shrewd needle]

Send money and I will.

[chilly leaf]

Touche lmao

Could always go download some ram too....

[chilly leaf]

Im so tempted to install the less aimbot mod

[shrewd needle]

X and C are for leaning, BTW, for me. V is for changing fire-modes and T is for swapping ammunition.

[plain fiber]

Calm the f*ck down, it sounded like you were talking about hardcore survival with your complaints about the current implementation of the hunger system.

I agree that all of the survival mechanics do need improvement, as well as the loot balance. You're right that there's too much food sitting around. There's also too much medical supplies like medkits and bandages.

[shrewd needle]

Fortunately, I got some RAM recently; went from 12 GB to 40, so good for a bit.

[chilly leaf]

Wait how does that work

[meager crag]

And uh, what about the underbarrel grenade launcher?

[plain fiber]

Keyword: yet. I also mentioned that I'm holding off for now since I don't want to deal with compatibility issues when the next patch or hotfix drops and breaks whatever mods I have installed.

[shrewd needle]

Also, why don't you both just kiss already? Both of you need to calm down.

[chilly leaf]

I thought it was like 8, 16, 32

[shrewd needle]

I kept that for B; overlapping keys are a problem.

[meager crag]

The perfect relation in a nutshell

[shrewd needle]

Had 8 + 4 before, now 8 + 32. Again, monies...

[meager crag]

"kept"? Oh no

[hardy totem]

https://tenor.com/view/master-oogway-kung-fu-panda-inner-peace-gif-11501603

[plain fiber]

I'm good. Just thinking about what to have for dinner.

[meager crag]

YOU MOVED IT BY ONE KEY?

[chilly leaf]

Iirc from my days of pc building its important to have dual channel ram sticks so that your memory has better efficiency

[meager crag]

FROM V TO B?!

[shrewd needle]

It's B in vanilla...

[meager crag]

ARE YOU MAD?!?!

V

[chilly leaf]

Like 8 + 8

or 16 + 16

[shrewd needle]

Yes, I know, but monies.

[spare canopy]

I am calm... I am not the one putting words into peoples mouths that were never said.

I fecking hate hardcore survival games, as most of the time it's just unrealistic BS. Like dying of starvation after a day... When really you can live for 2-3 weeks without food, it's the water that is the problem.

But I would like a more serious games, that mean you don;t eat 40 fecking sausages a day, because at least 2% thought power has gone into the mechanic.

[fickle hill]

[shrewd needle]

UBGL is B in vanilla; I DIDN'T change it. Kept it what it is, since the key is otherwise unused.

[plain fiber]

My next build is going to do 32x32.

[chilly leaf]

I getchu, took me like 2 years before I got better ram

[meager crag]

Nuh-uh, it's V

[shrewd needle]

Yep, send me another stick of 32.

[plain fiber]

Well then I apologize for misunderstanding the point you were trying to make.

[meager crag]

Didn't they address this problem ages ago? Wasn't it fixed?

[chilly leaf]

Im not gonna lie unless you are rendering the apocalypse I don't see why you'd need more than 32 🗿

[spare canopy]

No worries, I want it more serious, not anal 😄

[meager crag]

Sounds pretty serious

[shrewd needle]

I use V to switch firing-modes, so using it for the UBGL would cause problems due to that. I change firing modes all the time, but the UBGL...I don't think I ever used it.

Especially since they ruined them (you could actually use the GL sights in the trilogy)...that was moronic, NGL...to disable the sights.

[spare canopy]

What problem?

[meager crag]

The hunger issue

[plain fiber]

I believe we are in agreement; there's too much loot (namely food and medicine) and the survival mechanics need to be improved so that they actually matter.

[shrewd needle]

If you're an iGPU gamer like me or doing a lot of VMs...

Like hey, I can run 2 tabs of Chrome, now!

[hardy totem]

Sick flex

[fickle hill]

Eh just stack em and you can sell em when you get 300 med kits that's over 20k Coupons right there

[plain fiber]

@spare canopy I think GSC has mentioned improvements are coming. I remember hearing stuff being changed about the way energy drinks work, including giving them negative side effects for drinking too many in one sitting. Addiction and straight-up caffeine shakes from what I remember.

[shrewd needle]

TBF, Firefox uses multiple GBs too, so...it's not like either browser's better, but...yea.

[meager crag]

https://tenor.com/view/hackerman-gif-13247933

[fickle hill]

That's money for the prison wallet

[spare canopy]

The problem is the mechanic is half asked slop, that doesn't make sense. Food should be scarce in the zone, apart from in hubs, and should be perishable... And possibly other mechanics, to make more uses of the populated areas etc.

[meager crag]

To be fair, it is HoC

[surreal token]

how's S2 now after 1.1.4? (i played back in january)

[meager crag]

Of course it's half-arsed slop

[shrewd needle]

There's only the prison, never the wallet.

[chilly leaf]

Firefox better

[shrewd needle]

Please, we don't need perishable food; I already have an insane time with inventory management.

[chilly leaf]

Replace bread with hardtack!!!!!

[shrewd needle]

Oh, I agree; it still uses too much RAM, NGL.

[plain fiber]

Eh....I don't think food should be scarce necessarily. The Zone is a radioactive hellscape, but it's not post-apocalypse. There's a thriving black market that's been around in-game for over 20 years and shows no signs of stopping, and it's clearly not very hard to smuggle shit in an out.

[meager crag]

But no, I don't feel like food should be that rare in the Zone. Think about it, how come that all the people in the Zone can even survive there or have weapons? They're all getting supplies from the Big Land because the Big Land wants what the Zone has and the Stalkers can give it to them. It's mutually beneficial

HOWEVER

[shrewd needle]

Food will never be scarce, but just not as much as now.

The amount of bread...I got like 1000 pieces of bread just by MapGenie. And that's saying something.

[plain fiber]

Food just sitting out in the world and in stashes should be way less common yes, but food itself shouldn't be scarce.

[shrewd needle]

250+ Beer. Similar for Vodka.

[meager crag]

Now that HoC has retconned artifacts, why would the Big Land still need Stalkers?

[shrewd needle]

To get them without paying a tax to SIRCAA. 😏

[plain fiber]

I don't think they're completely retconned. Besides, wasn't the idea of them turning into useless lumps after a while originally from pre-release SoC?

[meager crag]

Nope, it's a HoC thing

[spare canopy]

They say a lot, but they don;t seem to know how to improve things, they just seem to make things unnecessarily frustrating, like the top of the towers for example.

I literally have no faith in them, and that is where my frustration comes from.

Like we have implemented or greatly improved A-life now.... Yeah, great, spawn simulator is back, but at least people sit around fires now and disappear... What a great success...

[shrewd needle]

Top of towers?

[meager crag]

Pre-release could be, but it's not in the original games, so it's a retcon in HoC

So in that regard, I do agree with you. There shouldn't only be less food, ammo, whatever, but also less Stalkers

[shrewd needle]

HoC has no 'ret', only 'con'. The plot conned everyone. 😏

And the entire game feels like a con-job.

[meager crag]

They also haven't "ret" the original lore

[plain fiber]

I can't remember, do artifacts go bad immediately after leaving the Zone, or does it take some time?

[charred nova]

What happened to the a750

[shrewd needle]

Some time.

[surreal token]

is it still worth to wait more updates before thinking replaying

[shrewd needle]

Still running; I was saying in general, since I gamed on the iGPU before it came along and will most likely be iGPU after the A750 dies.

[meager crag]

Pretty sure some time, but still fairly fast

[charred nova]

Why would it die

[plain fiber]

If it's not immediate, then it shouldn't be that hard to find some rich idiot to sell the artifact(s) too before the go bad.

Plus, you can probably still do research and experiments on them before they become lint as well.

[shrewd needle]

Because it's sealed with no external screws, and the internal packaging is a mess (watch Gamers Nexus tearing an Arc down to know)...cleaning it is basically impossible for me.

[spare canopy]

You misunderstand me... You shouldn't find 50 billion tons of fresh food lying around the place, it should only be scarce in the zone, outside of settlements etc...

Like, going into an X-lab that hasn't been opened for 20 years, only to find 200 fresh sausages and bread scattered around the place.

You should be buying food before you go out to take with you, a daily expense, but it needs to be done properly though. Not just make it anal and frustrating.

[shrewd needle]

No. I don't want to buy food daily, thanks. This isn't real life...I'd rather store some before-hand and just go out after waking up.

[fickle hill]

You can find a trail of BREAD in restok

[shrewd needle]

Petition to rename 'Rostok' to 'Restok' since everyone goes there for re-stocking their shit.

[spare canopy]

then buy enough so you don't have to do it every day.

[plain fiber]

I agree with you there. The abandoned locations should not have any fresh food lying around. If there is food, it needs to be old and potentially hazardous to your health. Or hell, add in more canned food items and give us special "old" variants that can only be found in abandoned locations like that.

[meager crag]

CoP has this as well. Perfectly edible

[fickle hill]

[shrewd needle]

Yes, except with the idea of 'perishable food', it becomes impossible.

[spare canopy]

Hate CoP

[meager crag]

Nuh-uh

[shrewd needle]

Skill issue.

[plain fiber]

I disagree, and I'm definitely not as cynical about the future of this game as you are, but I'll leave it at that.

[shrewd needle]

CoP literally has the most QoL out of the trilogy. Except for the screwed-up weapon attachments (where's my suppressed Desert Eagle?)...

[meager crag]

And best weapon/armor balance

Even if Vasim disagrees

[shrewd needle]

TBF, I'd have liked all armours having upgrade options for NVGs and thermal vision with IFF...only some having it and some not is basically pain.

Well, helmets, that is; I keep forgetting helmets are a CoP addition.

[meager crag]

Problem is that, for what the game actually offers in playstyles and the like, it can't really shine due to how small the game is, yet also because of how big the maps are

[spare canopy]

That is your opinion, but for me, I jsut didn't like the game... the story...

SoC and CS for me, may not have the best mechanics, but were the far superior game over all.

[shrewd needle]

It's still good (also, let's not forget that also the most stable)...

[plain fiber]

I chalk it up to jank with how that was still a thing in the original trilogy.

[shrewd needle]

I mean, SoC had atmosphere and CS had a real dystopia...CoP was basically a detective story, so of course.

[meager crag]

I dunno, I don't mind it. Each armor has its own playstyle. I wouldn't want to go out during the night with a suit not great at protecting me against bullets, bites and scratches

[shrewd needle]

But CoP is far more refined as a game. More stable, less buggy, more balanced and workable.

[shrewd needle]

I meant the helmets having upgrade options for NVGs/thermals, that is. And only upgrades, not in-built.

[meager crag]

Ah

[plain fiber]

CoP is my favorite entry overall of the trilogy, but I like Clear Sky more on a mechanical level, and Shadow of Chernobyl just for its sheer atmosphere. (Not that the other entries didn't also have atmosphere, but Shadow of Chernobyl had more of quiet moments that allowed it to shine.)

CoP's weapon and suit balance and weapon and suit upgrades were also the best imo.

[spare canopy]

Yeah, because the only setting for perishable food, has to be two hours and silly stupid settings.

Why do you always arguments to the extreme of things?

Why can't you ever think, well, if they get the balance right, and food goes off at a sensible rate it could work.

But nope, you go to, lets have a setting that makes it utterly frustrating.

[meager crag]

Well yes, maybe I don't agree with all of them getting NVG options, but I do feel like the helmets are tiered, which kinda sucks but I also kinda understand it

[shrewd needle]

SoC's atmosphere is unmatched, NGL...the game is jank, but the atmosphere is incredible.

HoC matches that in some places due to the upgraded graphics, but that's about it; that and the other games never have that level of atmosphere again.

[plain fiber]

There's definitely a happy medium somewhere in the middle.

[shrewd needle]

Because I don't want the food to go off; as I said before, managing the inventory is already insane many times.

Having food that just...dies...is not something I look forward to either ways.

[meager crag]

Like, in what way would a Gas Mask be better than a Screen Helmet in whatever scenario?

[spare canopy]

Yup, CoP, just really wasn't for me. It just didn;t tiggle the right parts for me.

[meager crag]

Realistically, that is

[shrewd needle]

That's understandable.

[plain fiber]

I disagree. I think CS and CoP have plenty of moments that match the atmosphere of SoC. HoC I think just needs more work to make it shine, but I think it has the base for the atmosphere to be as good as SoC.

[meager crag]

CoP, less so, but CS, definitely

[shrewd needle]

Of course, not; I agree there, but you could always wear NVG goggles on top of it if you're poor and just need a helmet without breaking the bank. That's the only complaint I have; otherwise the armours are fine.

[spare canopy]

It's insane because of everything is half asked slop.

It wouldn't be like that, if it was properly thought out.

[plain fiber]

I think you can say half-assed.

*EDIT*

Yep.

[shrewd needle]

Well, that is kind of a general issue of HoC, so IDK how anything will ever be fixed in this case.

[meager crag]

All part of the balance imo, despite helmets not being balanced

[plain fiber]

Ass

Assed

Right, looks like that's okay.

[spare canopy]

I had a fat finger moment, combined with brainfart. I was avoidning, I just put the wrong word in... dyslexia... 😄

[shrewd needle]

I mean...I've never felt CS to match SoC; CS always felt more 'brighter' and less 'dystopian/lonely' because you knew that there was a lively world around you.

Whereas SoC...you were all alone. No faction heloing you, no one around you, no tons of people...

[meager crag]

You're lucky, looks like you won't get Ass-assinated by Wolf today

[shrewd needle]

Exactly, but also...screw the balance. 😏

[plain fiber]

I generally agree with CS, but it absolutely had moments that matched imo. When you were in one of those areas that were truly desolate and you were away from all the hustle and bustle? Ooooh, it was like a drug.

[surreal token]

as for me. CoP for sure was fun, I personally don't like gritty mud crawler. and navigation experience in CoP was much better than CS or SoC

[hardy totem]

Go all in and say half-axed from now on

[meager crag]

But muh balance and player freedom in selecting the gear that best fits my playstyle/the situation I'm about to face

[plain fiber]

Ass-ass-inated.

[shrewd needle]

Sure, again, I agree that all games have their moments, but for SoC, the atmosphere existed throughout the game. That is what's missing in the other games...they only have moments, but no consistency.

[shrewd needle]

Player freedom good, 'muh balance' not so much. And again, I didn't mind anything, only the NVGs and thermals.

[plain fiber]

Ah my bad. Yeah, it was more consistent in SoC for sure. I think it was also pretty consistent in CoP too, though less so simply because there weren't as many areas to explore.

[spare canopy]

I mean, if GSC just stopped screwing up so much, and actually did things that gave people hope, that would be a start.

And I really haven’t seen much, or what I am looking for at least, to do be able to say, they will get it right.

[plain fiber]

Patch 1.5 was a huge step in the right direction.

[meager crag]

I dunno dawg, I like it when even early game weapons can be upgraded to be usable late-game

[chilly bloom]

I hate that the rhino shoots 9×39

[meager crag]

Same with armor

[surreal token]

are mutants in HoC still bullet sponges?

[shrewd needle]

CoP had the benefit of larger individual areas that created desolation...and the Jupiter Factory is genuinely creepy, NGL. And I had my own bug/experience with it that makes me abhor it with passion.

[fickle hill]

It can shoot buckshot

[shrewd needle]

Same. Just like IRL. 😏

[chilly bloom]

But its based on the python

[plain fiber]

Jupiter Plant is exactly the place I was thinking of when I think of atmosphere in CoP.

[meager crag]

This is a game

[surreal token]

pripyat had eerines too

[spare canopy]

Done nothing for me being honest.

[meager crag]

CS can still be pretty dark at times