☢┃stalker-general

[charred nova]

oh im aware of this

its just a far more complicated issue

[safe imp]

the crew 1, ubisoft game that was quite fun and was shut down by ubisoft, with no way to ever log into the game anymore, that sparked it. Driver san francisco is another driving game that was really good, took off shelves and virtual stores even though it's a really good game and it does make you think a lot. That's two things that initially made it real

[charred nova]

that is being caused by deep rooted flaws in our soceity

[somber rose]

games have been shutting down their servers for 20 years. People find ways if they care, if they don't, oh well.

[charred nova]

why should it be though

why should it be that way

[uneven barn]

yes, and that's why stuff like SKG exists

[somber rose]

because if people cared they would survive.

[charred nova]

they can't in many cases

[inland mantle]

I do care. I live in Canada, third generation here second born. My family came from Ukraine and Belarus to have a better life and Canada has been nothing but crap. Our economy now is so bad that post covid everyone that had a savings account blew through on inflated prices which have gotten 5x worse since. Retirement is a pipe dream now for most because they are paycheque to paycheque

[charred nova]

companies can sue them into the ground and they can do nothing

[somber rose]

I was able to play Resident Evil Outbreak, a playstation 2 exclusive, online on my pc last year because people cared.

[charred nova]

sure

thats a single case

[safe imp]

people started making the crew 1 private servers work, when ubisoft noticed they removed people's licenses to the game, even though said people paid for the game

[charred nova]

but there are many cases where this is not possible

[somber rose]

🤷‍♂️ don't buy ubisoft games.

[safe imp]

well yeah sure that's another thing tho

[somber rose]

Personally I wouldn't forgive them for Black Flag.

[safe imp]

ubisoft has really good IPs, they have huge potential, they just screw it up every time they get the chance to. Doesn't mean we should be fine with it

also why are content creators above mods on the right? just noticed

[charred nova]

gsc wanted it

[safe imp]

huh.

[somber rose]

What do you expect them to do? Maintain the servers forever?

[charred nova]

no

[somber rose]

God willing ubisoft dies completely.

[safe imp]

they want them to either maintain the servers, or release offline patches, or even better server files to host private servers

[charred nova]

the laws would force companies to provide the tools to keep playing once they pull the plug on their own service

[safe imp]

the main argument is that companies have trade secrets behind these servers that they wouldn't want to share. The main answer is "fuck the trade secrets, sharing them will help every game be better"

[charred nova]

this has already been discussed and explained

[safe imp]

but also, they can definitely make a "worse" version (without these stupid secrets)

[charred nova]

all of the actual valuable trade secret stuff

for example the anti cheat

are not needed for you to host private servers

[somber rose]

anticheat is the biggest issue tbh

[charred nova]

just remove it

[somber rose]

Star Wars Battlefront 2.png

[safe imp]

oh im thinking more like some new better way to handle how players connect that hasn't been seen before

[somber rose]

Are you expecting private servers to be maintainable for something like an MMO?

[safe imp]

but again, just make a version using what is generally used, or cry about it and release it and help people

[charred nova]

basically if you build the server back in any sort of modular way they can easily just remove all but the core server and just give people that

[charred nova]

why wouldn't they be?

many mmos already have private servers

[safe imp]

if the game dies to the point it needs private servers it will not be a struggle to run. Also, even if it isn't that's not the point, people want the tools to do it even if it means they get to play with 4 of their friends and thats it

[somber rose]

Because game dev is moving away from anti-cheat and moving towards server verification of almost every action. This means very, very expensive cloud services.

[charred nova]

for a server of like 30 people i don't think it would be that bad

[somber rose]

For WOW clones sure, but not for modern MMOs.

[safe imp]

if some rich guy who loves the game wants to do it he should be able to, then it can die in a month but at least it was fun

[charred nova]

if its hard to run thats not of companies concern

[somber rose]

We're talking server-side physics.

[charred nova]

all that matters is they provide the resources for it to be run

[safe imp]

the demand is not to make it perform well or to make it usable by some random guy on his pentium, the demand is to provide it at all

[charred nova]

if it requires a 50k dollar server then oh well

[fierce nexus]

[somber rose]

with proprietary backend technology that their competitors will immediately steal

[charred nova]

just remove it

can easily be done

[somber rose]

that's not possible.

[charred nova]

100 percent can be and has been done

[somber rose]

You want the tools but are asking to remove the tools.

[somber rose]

For WOW clones, 25 year old games.

Imagine running something like Star Citizen on a private server.

Impossible.

[charred nova]

im sure it could be possible

[safe imp]

that's why the other option is to leave players an offline version, locally ran, even if it's like half a terabyte cause of all the shit you need to load

[charred nova]

they got a real dev on to talk about this with louis rossman he seemed fairly convinced it was not that tall of a ask

[somber rose]

Star citizen meshes a dozen servers together and tracks every single entity's physics. You're talking millions of entities.

[charred nova]

yah for lots of people

[somber rose]

Backend tech is changing.

[charred nova]

you don't need that for 20 people

[somber rose]

You cannot 'remove' backend, that will be stolen.

[safe imp]

you're missing the point where it doesn't have to be doable for a single person to run it, it just has to be a possibility no matter how remote it is that someone wants to try hosting it

if you're releasing a game with groundbreaking tech and it dies so fast you have a problem with sharing said tech and no one else got to maybe the tech wasn't so good to begin with

[inland mantle]

Is there a page where we can specifically ask questions about mods/request?

[echo nimbus]

Yeah but I feel like if u take away the chimeras speed or the pseudo giants tanking potential u kinda ruin the thing that's unique abt that enemy imo

[somber rose]

Getting these things to run is a miracle and the result of a billion dollar investment. I'm not capitalist, but I think forcing companies to give this tech to the masses for free after such an investment will have a very large cooling effect.

The 'backend' is the hosting service. You cannot separate that f rom the game without refactoring the entire game.

[inland mantle]

Well I would say keep the boss variants the same with added stuff, but for balancing reasons might be a bit op

[charred nova]

i mean people did this for lego universe a 2010 mmo

and it will run on a rice cooker

[safe imp]

it will have the side effects of having companies actually think before releasing an online game, think about how the game needs to not die in 2 months so they need to put actual effort in

[charred nova]

took them 12 years of work

[echo nimbus]

U could tie the bosses to the altered artifacts so that u need to beat an op boss to get an op artifact

[charred nova]

to rebuild the entire server back end from scratch

[somber rose]

Yes, and the way games are being developed now are completely different.

Once you move away from anti-cheat it's a different world.

[charred nova]

how would you move away from anti cheat

[somber rose]

Server side actions.

[charred nova]

thats never stopped cheating before

[somber rose]

It's never been done at this scale

[inland mantle]

Ah that’s true

[safe imp]

if the company needs to hide its secrets they'll keep the game online for however long they want to before releasing the files to the public. If the game dies the servers will not be that expensive to keep up at all

[charred nova]

frankly it doesn't really matter how hard it would be

[inland mantle]

We good to @ people here to ask something?

[charred nova]

if the law passes

companies gotta do it

[echo nimbus]

I think there's no need to nerf the alpha bosses that you proposed if they are tied to an optional but very good reward imo

[charred nova]

if they want to or not they have to

[safe imp]

it's also not retroactive obviously, so the thought process behind game design will shift towards making better online games that can last longer

[charred nova]

it is semi retroactive

basically shields people from legal actions

[safe imp]

i read it wasn't retroactive?

[echo nimbus]

Maybe if they add like more faction stuff or faction based quest u can get the mutant loot as well and trade it for exclusive gear or smt

[charred nova]

companies wont need to do anything regarding there old games

but they can't take legal action against people making there old games playable

[safe imp]

oh well that's simply just a good thing so

should never have been possible to take legal action against that

[charred nova]

the lego universe people are excited for the possibilities because

lego is fairly nice as far as large companies go but

they told the people behind the project they could not host any public servers

[frigid hill]

deko000 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[safe imp]

i have no clue what i said there

[charred nova]

the law would make that no longer hold any water

lego universe is a fairly small group of people

[safe imp]

"oh no my 2008 game with 1k players is soon gonna be playable because these guys made it playable again, my brand new game with 800k players will suffer too much because of it, jarvis throw a nuke at their house"

[charred nova]

id bet 95 percent of people my age never even heard of it lol

[safe imp]

i haven't but that's just cause i dont care about lego

[charred nova]

it was only in active development for 9 months while live

[safe imp]

is it that top down game where you destroy bricks in like cities and such and collect em with also missions?

oh, then it's not, if it wasnt finished

[charred nova]

it was

but baiscally right before the next large expansion dropped

lego pulled the plug

[obtuse veldt]

Wolf acts weird with even the minimal swears

[charred nova]

reportedly lego saw a player drop off due inbetween the expansions

and decided the game was a flop and killed it

[safe imp]

i looked it up, is it MMO lego?

[charred nova]

yes

[safe imp]

that sounds kinda cool

[charred nova]

it was

[safe imp]

ngl i was fully hooked to lego fortnite for a month, this looks pretty similiar maybe besides the building

i should play that again, such a fun survival game

[charred nova]

it was super cool because it was like a totally unique thing

[safe imp]

an mmo is an unique thing?

[charred nova]

no

as far as a lego property

had a lot of very dark and mature themes that you would never see from lego even back then

[safe imp]

oh i see

the sonic boom of lego games

[charred nova]

nah

cus it was actually really good

[safe imp]

sonic boom kinda slaps

it's mostly not great but when it decides to be real it's so good lol

[charred nova]

only real problem with it is

since it was basically a mmo in the super early stages

of its life

its a little sparce for content

it only ever got 2 major expansions so ;/

[safe imp]

it never got its The Taken King 💔

[charred nova]

there was stuff planned up to about a year out from when all dev work stopped on the game

and it hurts so much to see what could have been

[safe imp]

did they have raids

[charred nova]

uh

kinda

[safe imp]

i have felt this way towards some games, mainly hyper scape, it broke me when that game was shut down so early ngl

[charred nova]

the raids the game had were actually pretty hard

[safe imp]

Defiance made me sad when it shut down too, then a company reopened it and even made most of the DLC free.. sadly that showed me how unbalanced and boring the game could be lol

[charred nova]

though once you got higher level

they can be cheesed

most of the cheese likely would have been patched out but....

but some people are making new content for the game very slowly

more so restoring old content

[safe imp]

unrelated but, its so hard to see people who make cod content, especially warzone, try to steer off of cod cause of how bad it is now and try making content on other games just to get a tenth of the viewership of the cod videos so they're forced to do cod BS or they're basically out of a job

[charred nova]

the real tragedy is some critical client version are currently lost media

[safe imp]

oh that's unfortunate

[charred nova]

basically there was a version of the client that contained roughtly 90 percent of the future expansion

and that version is sadly entirely lost

[safe imp]

similiar thing happened with playstation home's revival but they managed to find some random guy who had some data in their ps3 somehow

[charred nova]

never liked cod

[safe imp]

i can like an arcadey shooter from time to time but cod has been full on BS for a couple years, not much fun at all. MW3 2023 was slightly fun tho not great

[fickle hill]

Microsoft is running it on AI after the 10,000 dev layoff and it's sweet to see the only problem is now the content is gonna get worse

[safe imp]

hard to make it worse but they'll manage

[charred nova]

the bigges tradegy is we can't even ask the studio if they have the files because the studio basically uprooted everything to move to Denmark to be near lego

[echo nimbus]

Well cod gamers r the same ppl that buy a worse version of the previous game similar to ea players that buy the exact same game every year because ea adds a 1 to the year 💀

[charred nova]

so when they killed the game

the studio died instantly

they bet the entire company on the game

[fickle hill]

You would be amazed on how the spiral only goes deeper

[safe imp]

if people buy black ops 7 en masse it'll be on par with people buying fifa every year

[charred nova]

i mean thats what it is

its yearly slop

[echo nimbus]

I hope ea goes bankrupt but it won't cause of the surprisingly large amount of questionable individuals who continue to buy their game

[safe imp]

so far i would say sports fans are worse because the games there are LITERALLY the same, cod at least changes some stuff, especially when they used to change the whole game with futuristic and ww2 and modern etc. But black ops 7 is literally black ops 6 but 2026

[charred nova]

its why BF1 and BFV were so goated

[safe imp]

mw3 2023 was a mw2 dlc but at least in that game they fully overhauled the actual gameplay, the only similiar thing was the graphics
black ops 7, from the limited information we have, will be the literal same game..

[safe imp]

i never liked them..

[fickle hill]

Unsalted

[charred nova]

we are no longer friends

[safe imp]

but that's mainly due to the fact I played them very late and on pc

[safe imp]

playing older BF titles on PC is just a bad idea you'll never get to play a non sweaty tryhard game sadly

[charred nova]

its why i loved battlebit

[echo nimbus]

Sports fans vs gacha fans would be a very interesting fight 😭

[charred nova]

its the only other game ive ever played

that felt similiar to BFV and BF1

[safe imp]

gacha fans vs gacha fans? have you seen FUT

[fickle hill]

That's everygame

[safe imp]

shooters mostly, battlefield though i genuinely think has it worst besides some niche games

[echo nimbus]

💀 oh shoot ur right I forgot ea loves microtransactions

Did u guys see someome at ubisoft saying microtransactions enhance the user experience lmao

[fickle hill]

Which is why you learn and adapt

[charred nova]

this guy comes to my chat and talks bad on battlefield bro

can you BELIEVE THIS GUY

except 2042

that game was mega aids

[safe imp]

2042 is my 2nd most played battlefield after bf4

[echo nimbus]

💀

[safe imp]

if i was playing on console, BF1 would be my most played by far, i played it once on ps4 and it was a much more enjoyable experience

[still current]

[charred nova]

bro

this guy

[still current]

Still Off-topic since lego mention I see

[safe imp]

2042 is still kinda okay on pc because since it's the latest one it doesn't only have good players on it, you can still find normal lobbies
bf1, all i saw all the time was ridicously cracked people spamming broken op vehicles, while bf5 had the worst hit registration out of any shooter i've ever played. BF1 is definitely a great game and im sure was amazing on release and in his year(s), it's just not enjoyable now at least on pc

[still current]

Jack, the agent of chaos

[fickle hill]

Well what do you expect

[still current]

Compliance

[fickle hill]

Who wants to move their fingers to click onto another channel

[still current]

I'll beat jack in front of you

https://tenor.com/view/foghorn-leghorn-spank-beat-beating-gif-12866723695374477811

[fickle hill]

What you gonna give him the magic hand in the back of a walmart?

[still current]

I'll give him a hug

[fickle hill]

Go ahead keep staring at the bag of rice

[shell flax]

We need to blow up the slag heap

[fickle hill]

Good luck

[primal nimbus]

Invest in Loners more

[unkempt vault]

We need to take back Rostok

[fiery iris]

why is my sensitivity so low

its on maximum and yet its still very slow

[unreal reef]

I think the STALKER devs would make a good TWD game

[echo nimbus]

Change ur dpi

[unreal reef]

Think about it like this, at least it ain't Metro and your sensitivity changes with your weight

[echo nimbus]

Honestly if they had the time and resources to polish their game I could kinda see it but gsc is def weaker on the narrative side of things imo

[unreal reef]

I'd like to see an open world TWD dead that ISNT shit. Have a world space like STALKER 2 per state

[echo nimbus]

Yeah but the story would prob be trash or mediocre at best

[unreal reef]

Wouldn't need a main story. Just plotlines per state

Nothing major, just survivor plots

[echo nimbus]

Eh I think some people would prefer it having some what of a story but as a survival game it'd prob be pretty good 👍

[fiery iris]

im on console

[echo nimbus]

OH 💀

[fiery iris]

it seems to drop my sensitivity whenever i enter stc malachite for somereason

[inland mantle]

Mosin Nagant+iron sight mod+BB=absolute mutant destroyer

Two shot poltigeist or suckers

[echo nimbus]

Does ur fps drop cuz on my old pc when my fps dropped my sense dropped down

[inland mantle]

Love the mosin. Seriously one of the best guns they could’ve added. Now, PPSH-41

AKM and Nagant M1895

[fiery iris]

no it doesn't

[unborn hill]

anyone know how to fix this... I'm just tryna play the game man

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[echo nimbus]

Yeah idk much abt console my bad 😅 I'd look up on reddit or smt

[inland mantle]

Yup sure enough in Rostock there’s an AKM model with wood furniture sitting there. Why isn’t it in the game 😭 all they have to do is reuse the ak-74 animations, change the sound a little bit and tweak its stats

[ebon blade]

Watch out! It's the Invisible Mutant Guy!

[inland mantle]

@safe imp

[jovial sable]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-shocked-upset-stop-no-gif-5541443

[somber rose]

BF2142>BF2>BFBC2>BF1>BFBC>BF3>BF4>C&B torture>BF2042>BF5

[jovial sable]

stupid tenor gif doesn't work

[inland mantle]

Mama always told me to put another in the head, just to make sure they stay down

[jovial sable]

hey, bloodsuckers are scary, okay?

[inland mantle]

Nah, based mutant. What’s scary is a burer flinging the keys you need for a door into god knows where

[shell flax]

Understood, Burers can now catch bullets

[jovial sable]

that just happened to me in Pripyat with a Poltergeist. I was going crazy looking for the key.

Took me a while to realize the key was probly thrown somewhere. Like an hour waster.

[fickle hill]

I have had a couple of those times

But Poltergeist can do the same sadly

[inland mantle]

Yup, they fling them far. Polties and burers. Bigger trolls than @somber rose

[jovial sable]

It's funny that Burers can't take away Skif's pistol

[inland mantle]

Yup both fling keys into Neverland. Sure makes for an exciting quest. A simple 10 minute area becomes an hour adventure

[inland mantle]

Quest item FTW

I have skids pistol with expansive rounds just for them

[fickle hill]

I know right if only

[inland mantle]

Don’t give GSC any ideas

[fickle hill]

I want that thing gone

I hate looking at it

[inland mantle]

Another stupid death. Go near a train track with a train to cross a river, taking minor rads. Rushes to a group ahead of me just to watch them all die, and proceed to die instantly. Very irradiated train

[fickle hill]

Cooling towers to cement factory?

[inland mantle]

Yup

[fickle hill]

Yep it's a radiation barrier

[inland mantle]

Buddy know exactly where 😂 I know I ain’t the first

I figured I could cross there. Gotta go further I guess

[fickle hill]

Yeah I watched a group of bandits just collapse

[inland mantle]

Mine was duty patrol. In hindsight, seeing two X marks on the compass should’ve told me all I needed, but since duty walked into it figured I’d heal on other side. I could never do a no death run purely because of dumb deaths

[fickle hill]

I wonder if that's an easter egg since it would be stupid to just make that a death barrier

[inland mantle]

Maybe, but I don’t remember a game or movie with a death train

Unless it’s a darkwatch reference?

[fickle hill]

Maybe since it is like the hook in Jupiter where you take radiation damage just because it is from Chernobyl itself

[inland mantle]

Definitely could be. Metal holds radiation super well, and it makes sense since two cooling towers are right nearby

But then that doesn’t make sense cause neither are irradiated areas

We need a mod that adds a detector style Geiger counter that shows radiation levels ahead of us so we don’t have to wonder if its a safe amount

[shell flax]

one cooling tower is home to a giant ass flame tornado locked in perpetuity, sense is kinda lost lmao

[fickle hill]

Yeah just for them to make it real to where it just breaks getting near chernobyl itself

[inland mantle]

True. That tornado artifact isn’t even that great imo. Hypercubeband liquid rock better

[fickle hill]

Or even death valley

[inland mantle]

I can’t wait for mods being able to be manually tested and uploaded. Once that happens going to overhaul the game so bad. Animations, guns, survival overhauls, lighting, textures, qol stuff like a Geiger counter handheld if that gets made etc. new mutants

Love using weapon reposition tacticool, just too bad the weapons aren’t just a little bit further away. Maybe a few inches or so of the stock showing at idle

[fickle hill]

Remember skif is a ex militant and he waste his time inspecting weapons rather than getting it unjammed and shooting

1.5 seconds is wasted just to unjam any assault rifle

[inland mantle]

Yeah could be a little more accurate. He does it right to inspect the chamber quick to see what kind of jam it is, but then he actually unjams it with no urgency

Like the kora, rack that damn slide and get the round out of there lol. Rack it and hit it to make sure slides all the way forward and continue

But no he gives the slide 3 little pulls back to pop the round out and is all gentle with it

[fickle hill]

Yeah

[fiery iris]

someone give me a loadout

[shell flax]

GP37, Spas, Kora

[inland mantle]

I have no doubt that full animation overhauls will come out that change the weapons animations themselves but realistic unjams too

[fiery iris]

i was acually running that but not the spas

[inland mantle]

As lavina, mosin nagant with collimator, kora

[fiery iris]

i was using the m860

[inland mantle]

Do you use better ballistics mod?

[fiery iris]

of course i do

[inland mantle]

Then I stand by my above loadout. Lavina for close to mid range, mosin mid to long/mutants and kora backup

[inland mantle]

Why ask lol, I think everyone and their grandmother will be using BB

[somber rose]

Aks74u for all ranges and enemies

Or monolith 416

[weary hedge]

74u on top

[charred nova]

Where are my skifs pistol only Folks

[inland mantle]

5.45, 9x39 and 7.62x54 are easy mode

[jovial sable]

omg here!

[inland mantle]

I like lavina for assault rifle choice

[charred nova]

Based

[weary hedge]

When I use pistols I only rock his lmao

[charred nova]

Until they added the 1911

[weary hedge]

Or the 1911 when I’m feeling quirky

[charred nova]

The only pistol that was better was the apsb

[inland mantle]

Kora gang on top

Only thing more classic than a makarov, is the 1911

[charred nova]

Some guy in mod chat earlier showed up his deagle mod

[weary hedge]

Gambits fun to use but it’s pretty dog shit

[charred nova]

Honestly really was worried no one was ever gonna release any gun mods lol

[inland mantle]

Practicality 1/10
ammo rarity 0/10
cool factor 11/10
ability to blast bandits 100/10
accuracy maybe

[charred nova]

The original stalker games

[weary hedge]

That’s sick. I hope to see more well made gun mods soon

[charred nova]

Had a deagle

It’s a classic

[charred nova]

Wasn’t perfect but it looked damn good for an early gun mod

It even had a custom ammo type

[weary hedge]

Hell yeah props to him for putting in work

[charred nova]

#en-mods-general message

[inland mantle]

Idk if this is the right question to ask, but was it made for nexus or official pc using sdk?

[charred nova]

Sdk

[weary hedge]

Honestly not bad

[charred nova]

Well I imagine it was anyway

Consider gsc literally made a tutorial for how to add guns

[weary hedge]

I wanna see a Thompson or a Grease Gun😂

[inland mantle]

Oh man that’s a pretty good deagle mod. If made with sdk, praying for port. That thing looks fun

[inland mantle]

Lewis gun

[charred nova]

Nah

1895 or nothing

[inland mantle]

Are you referring to the Nagant M1895?

[charred nova]

No

The browning 1895

[weary hedge]

That’s its real name but it also went by grease gun

[weary hedge]

This would be tough

[inland mantle]

Ah that would be sweet. I am hoping for a Nagant M1895 revolver. Only one in existence afaik that can be suppressed

[weary hedge]

I’d love to see a lever action gun

[inland mantle]

Grease gun was the cheap American smg, Lewis gun is a pan fed lmg

[inland mantle]

Winchester 1886 would be 🔥

[charred nova]

Nah

The 1895 is literally the coolest lever action

Not only that

[weary hedge]

Oh ur talking about the Russian lmg

[charred nova]

No

The Lewis is also pan fed

[inland mantle]

No the American Lewis gun lmg that was designed by colonel newton lewis. Wish I could post picture. It’s the one with a small pan at the rear and a giant water cooled barrel

[charred nova]

It was American made but

Never got put into service with the Americans

[inland mantle]

Didn’t it for a little bit? I know the Brit’s used it tons

[weary hedge]

That’s sick I didn’t know the Lewis gun had multiple models

[charred nova]

Don’t think so

[inland mantle]

Only the one Lewis gun I know of. Are you maybe thinking of the DP-28? That’s a Russian made pan fed lmg

[charred nova]

Nah I looked it up

Apparently the marines used it

[weary hedge]

Oh shit maybe

[inland mantle]

Another gun I’d love to see is the German MG08. Coolest looking water cooled lmg out there imo. One big beefy leadthrower

[weary hedge]

Yeah I got them mixed up. Didn’t the Russians use quite a bit of Lewis guns in ww2 in one of the battles against the Germans

[weary hedge]

That thing is a beast

[charred nova]

The m1895 browning makes the most sense in stalker of other guns of that area cus it’s most common form is in 7.62x54

As used by the imperial Russian army

[weary hedge]

Hell yeah I can see someone making a mod for that in the future. Look at fallout 4 that games got every gun under the sun because of moderate

[inland mantle]

The Russians did use the Lewis gun but only in the early stages of ww2. It was mainly used by the red army during the civil war

[weary hedge]

Modders*

[inland mantle]

S2 will probably be the same honestly. S2 is fallout for adults

[weary hedge]

Ahhh good to know. It’s been a minute since I’ve looked into Russian history

[inland mantle]

I’ve looked into it and ukranian history lots as that’s where each side of my family came from. Maternal Ukraine, paternal Russia

3rd generation in Canada. Was great grandparents that came here. Now want to go back cause Canada sucks lately 😂

[weary hedge]

That’s awesome. My heart goes out to Ukraine and its people. I mainly study Japanese history and other small Asian cultures because that is where most my family is from

[charred nova]

https://youtube.com/shorts/NXcD9dFwIR8?feature=shared

Like bro

Don’t tell me

This wouldn’t be the coolest thing ever

[inland mantle]

I don’t want to get into politics here, but I can’t say anything in regards to the current situation because my family is from both countries

[weary hedge]

That thing sounds beautiful

[inland mantle]

Both the 1886 and 1895. 1895 for mid to late game, 86 for early

The ‘95 is a thumper

[weary hedge]

I respect that

[inland mantle]

That 1895 sound though is amazing. Pray for an sdk mod 🙏

Here’s a question because I don’t know jack about modding. I know nexus you need perms to port mods, but if a mod is made with sdk for the official support, do you still need perms to port the mods?

And second, can nexus mods physically be converted to sdk?

[weary hedge]

I would ask that in the modding channel. I bet there’s a handful of people in there with some experience with that

[inland mantle]

Yeah I’ll probably ask there. I like to learn what I can as I’ll be learning how to create mods once I get a gaming pc. Vanilla games are fun but mods create a truly unique game

[weary hedge]

%100. I support mods because they allow the player to cater the game to their desire. You should also look up forums on the internet

[charred nova]

The 95 should be a one of one type weapon

Where you do a special quest to obtain it

[inland mantle]

I can totally get behind that. Make the quest accessible any time, but def a one off weapon. Possibly a hunter who used it to try hunt a chimera or something and you have to kill it to get to his rifle?

Seems like something legit

[weary hedge]

Or you find it on a skeleton that used the weapon a long time ago wearing old war gear

[inland mantle]

Forums pertaining to creation of mods?

[weary hedge]

Yeah and how the process of getting mods passed through gsc

[charred nova]

Honestly that’d be goated as fuck

And it has 0 durability lol

[inland mantle]

I know they are working to make it so authors can manually test and upload themselves in the future

[weary hedge]

Hell yeah😂

[inland mantle]

Alright whose making the 1895 unique with quest 😂

We got the idea sorted out

[charred nova]

I’ll put down 200 usd

I’ll even volunteer to voice act the quest giver

[weary hedge]

Or just make it so you gain the quest through a pda, note or random encounter

[inland mantle]

So what’s with the super blurry section of the map by the cooling towers? Future expansion?

[frigid hill]

soulxcalibur7 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[inland mantle]

Someone convince me to try the kharod out for the first time

[jovial sable]

don't

[thin apex]

maybe

it's also just the covering up the iron forest, CNPP/sarcophagus and generators, very prolific areas of the zone

which you do get transported to I believe the generators in end game depending on your ending route

[inland mantle]

Generators yep

Man I just was in Pripyat early exploring, and I came across a building and my detector was going nuts. Picking up all these dead sponge artifacts and realized psi was getting me. I got the artifact and the rads ended but like man thought I hit the motherload 😂

I was like jackpot mf

[jovial sable]

Can you get into SIRCAA after leaving the first time?

[inland mantle]

I believe sircaa is a one and done

Created a save and bought kharod and ammo and decked it out fully. Nothing special compared to even AK-74 or lavina (with BB anyways)

[honest ferry]

by launching yourself in there

[thin apex]

with BB its just a hk416 but more ugly

[ocean glen]

anyone in the swamps in 2

[thin apex]

why

[ocean glen]

just asking

tryna find ppl to talk to

[stuck seal]

Oh you’ll find people to talk to in the swamps alright

[inland mantle]

Go to zaton and go to the gates of sircaa, follow the train track to the end to where there’s a tunnel. Inside is someone you really want to talk to

[stuck seal]

Not so fun fact btw you can complete the emitter quest in the swamps before you activate the quest

[ocean glen]

oh yes very social in there

[ocean glen]

thats cool

[stuck seal]

You can do parts for quite a few quests before the quests become active, like the one in azimuth station, you can unlock the doors and disable the traps before the battle there happens

[inland mantle]

Go to the place I mentioned when you can, very important npc there

[ocean glen]

so can you kill the mutant thing in the swamp

i dumped like 150 ak rounds into it its still kicking like hell

[inland mantle]

Aim everything you’ve got into the big head, that’s it’s weak point

Second weak point is the small head, but big is better

[ocean glen]

ok im bout out of ammo now

damn guess imma just run for it

[inland mantle]

If you do manage to kill it, there is a vs vintar inside

That mutant is a chimera. Can’t talk to it, but you get like 4k for its claw plus the vintar, and bragging rights for killing it

Also while your in zaton you can get the high capacity mag for the vintar as well

[inland mantle]

You been getting them stuck and visible this patch as well?

And non hostile?

Am I the only one who doesn’t like using exo suits because of the visible arms and bulky vambraces?

[ebon blade]

This is an older screenshot from several months ago.

[honest ferry]

prettyboy

[ebon blade]

I always try to find a Bus Stop if I can to get my back in a corner to fight them.

[inland mantle]

I always just walk backwards and let them beeline towards me and headshot them

[honest ferry]

you like kissing bloodusckers dont you

[frigid hill]

soulxcalibur7 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[honest ferry]

nice

[inland mantle]

Who’s this soulcaliber guy who keeps getting wolfed

[ebon blade]

Some people post nothing but bad words and say nothing else. It's a mystery.

[inland mantle]

Strange

[honest ferry]

hes a bot because it got posted in every channel

[inland mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-hammer-futurama-scruffy-gif-20750885

[ebon blade]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-hammer-futurama-scruffy-gif-20750885

[inland mantle]

How’d you get it to show?

[shrewd needle]

Permissions. Moderators are exempt from the GIF-posting (or rather, video embed) restrictions.

[inland mantle]

Ah gotcha

[shrewd needle]

Basically power abuse.

Speaking of power abuse, time to bring out the old AK with AP rounds and wipe the shit out of both Duty and Freedom permanently.

[inland mantle]

Time to take down the oligarchs!

[shrewd needle]

Actually, SIRCAA = oligarchs. Freedom and Duty = kids with lethal toys.

[pulsar hearth]

havent played since march, is there low odds for mutant loot or is there something i missed before i can loot them?

[inland mantle]

I just found out how good the kora with expansive rounds is against a poltergeist. Very nice

[shrewd needle]

I haven't updated my game, so no M1911 for me.

[inland mantle]

I meant the moderators with their gif power abuse 😂

[shrewd needle]

Oh...that works!

[inland mantle]

Sircaa definitely oligarchs though. Bunch of rich political scientists trying to run the zone for profit

[shrewd needle]

Not for profit, actually...Dalin and the scientists are idealistic. It's Agatha and her benefactors that have unknown intentions.

[inland mantle]

Can’t wait for a console mod for no camera zoom while ads. Can’t stand being zoomed in while aiming, especially while enemies are flanking me courtesy of a mod I got

[shrewd needle]

Well, maybe Hermann is one of the rare few who're doing it for profit.

[shrewd needle]

I'm pretty sure that'll disable sniper zoom too.

[inland mantle]

Oh that’s right, haven’t played til the end since launch. Forgot that dalin isn’t that bad

[inland mantle]

Maybe, I don’t think so though. I know on fallout when I had a mod that disabled that, it somehow kept the magnification, but not the fov zoom in

[shrewd needle]

Basically every scientist (short of bad apples like Hermann) is shown as idealistic...like, they've got their own personalities, but almost all of them are concerned with using the Zone for the greater good.

[shrewd needle]

Yea, but this isn't Fallout...the FoV zoom is used for ALL the zoom, including snipers.

I know because there's this camera modification by Otis_Inf...if you change FoV, it disables any form of zoom completely.

[inland mantle]

We’d have to ask someone who uses a no can zoom mod. I imagine there’s a way to not disable the scope zoom. Or just except them from the mod completely

[shrewd needle]

The problem is that the scope doesn't use a separate zoom. You can see it when using the assault rifle scopes...the entire view zooms in, including outside the scope.

[inland mantle]

I might have to YouTube it and see. I don’t really snipe anyways from that far. Even without zoom, just having the scope I’ll pick people off with headshots at mid range

[shrewd needle]

Yes, but that only happens because the scops have zoom; everything except the holographic sight zooms you in to enable those precise shots.

And that 'zoom' is just a simple FoV change which is global, so if you disable that FoV change, the zoom dies. 😔

[inland mantle]

Just run an optic if I need. My playstyle is more run n gun or peak corners and pick them off with as val or weapon with collimator

[shrewd needle]

Use the VSS Vintorez. Bestesto 'assault rifle'. In vanilla, VAL is a waste of ammunition.

[inland mantle]

I’m using BB so they are both equal to eachother, so I use the lavina close range with open sights/auto and slap a scope and semi for mid range

[shrewd needle]

Oh...OK, that's fair.

[inland mantle]

BB is top tier imo. Balances calibers nicely

[shrewd needle]

I use the G36 with the Beta C-Mag. 100 rounds of 5.56 = everything goes down.

[shrewd needle]

BB turns the ballistics into what they should be. Vanilla ballistics are utter garbage and IDK who decided that was 'fine'.

[inland mantle]

I haven’t actually used it in combat yet. I tried it out just for recoil and animations

[inland mantle]

Exactly. Same caliber guns only have minor damage differences, and that’s I’m guessing to imitate different loads of grain. A AK-74 and malyuk wouldn’t have the exact same max psi resistance

Similar but not exact

[shrewd needle]

Uh...psi-resistance?

[inland mantle]

Wrong terminology there, but every barrel/receiver has a max psi from the round it can withstand

[shrewd needle]

I've wanted to use the VAL, but I prefer larger magazines. 20-30 rounds no longer do it for me.

[shrewd needle]

Pressure...right. I was like...why would psionics be involved there. 😆

[inland mantle]

Oh haha no pounds per square inch

[inland mantle]

I admit it’s a little low for me too, but that’s why I’m hoping someone makes/ports a mod for faster ads speed and reload speed

[shrewd needle]

Actually, all the ammunition would be the same, so short of manufacturing tolerances, all the bullets would be the same grain, wouldn't it?

[inland mantle]

Skif is a little slow for ex military

[shrewd needle]

That's an under-statement, Skif takes a few years to reload his weapons.

Meanwhile Val Kilmer doing professional reloads back in 1994 for being an actor.

[inland mantle]

That would depend on the brand manufacturing the rounds, like here a hornady and a federal of the same caliber don’t have the same. We can assume for military purpose though they would be roughly the same for all to be safe. You wouldn’t run a 3/4 max load in an ak like you would for a high power hunting rifle

[somber rose]

barrel length is also important

[inland mantle]

Ah yup muzzle velocity is important

[shrewd needle]

Yep, and it's the Zone, so basically all ammunition would be either military surplus or black market, but since they're usable in all guns without modifications, I presume it's basic military rounds that are 'loaded safe'.

[shrewd needle]

Yes, but the problem in vanilla is that damage is based on arbitrary values; guns do shit damage and have variations based on progression rather than actual weapon statistics.

2 weapons shooting 5.56 would do the exact same damage...only accuracy, drift, spread would differ due to different barrels and manufacturing.

I miss the original trilogy for this; the ballistics were far more realistic there than in S2.

[somber rose]

An AK-74M and an AKS-74u have completely different ballistics, and grain of course matters a lot.

[inland mantle]

That’s why I love BB so much. There’s no false sense of progression. Just pick a weapon and roll with it, better guns being ones that can have more upgrades and attachments but stock ak performs the same as malyuk

[somber rose]

Stalker 2 has silly stats and progression, but 5.56 = 5.56 is oversimplification

[inland mantle]

But that’s why BB made the 74u do a decent bit less damage than the 74. Same round but a smg does perform quite differently. But, that 5.45 smg is going to perform fairly similar to that 9x19 smg

[shrewd needle]

Yes, but since both use 5.45, the damage would be the same. The ballistics would differ, but that's bullet flight; impact would still cause the same amount of damage, wouldn't it?

[somber rose]

No. One is traveling significantly faster.

[shrewd needle]

I was getting to that; the U is a special case due to a shorter barrel, but the other weapons have full-sized barrels.

[somber rose]

Many weapons have varying barrel lengths.

[inland mantle]

No, barrel length makes a huge difference in muzzle velocity, which is extremely important for both speed and trajectory

[somber rose]

There's also like, a dozen different types of 5.56

Some guns can only use some.

[inland mantle]

Longer barrel generally means way faster, and flatter trajectory whereas short barrel is slower and more of a “spray”

[shrewd needle]

The Malyuk and the AK-74 have the exact same barrel (415 MM).

[somber rose]

Sure? Not saying they don't.

[shrewd needle]

Yes, but in-game, you have only 4 types and they only differ in effects except for flat. AP vs. FMJ vs. expansive would have the same ballistics, only different effects on targets.

[somber rose]

My old CETME could only use M855 5.56

[shrewd needle]

Yes, so my point is that both the AK-74 and the Malyuk would both do the same damage due to the same levels of propulsion from barrels of the same length.

[inland mantle]

Barrel rifling makes a difference as well. If the 74 and malyuk have a different twist, one round will fly faster and flatter than the other

[shrewd needle]

Right, but since they're both made for 5.45, I presume that they'd have the same barrel rifling due to being optimized for the same round?

[inland mantle]

Being that the malyuk is designed for special forces, we can assume it’s got better rifling so rounds can fly faster and flatter for range

[shrewd needle]

Also, those are all IRL nuances; for the purposes of a game like S2, one can just assume lack of variation in ammunition and hence, every gun firing a specific calibre doing the same rounds with the same rifling and so on.

[inland mantle]

It all depends on the intention of the rifle. My 300 WSM has a lot different rifling than that of a military use 300 WSM because I’m not taking shots at 1600 yards

[somber rose]

This is an arbitrary distinction. For the purposes of a game you can make guns do whatever damage you want.

You either want realism or you don't, basically.

[inland mantle]

But I run really heavy loads because I need an ethical shot, so that slows it down too so to compensate it’s got a certain twist

[shrewd needle]

Not...exactly. It's based on real guns, so they should work like real guns.

You don't need 100% realism, but when someone takes a 9 X 39 to the face, that's a bit jarring.

Barrel rifling is one of those things that doesn't require in-game implementation because that's just pedantic levels of realism.

[inland mantle]

With BB any gun will one shot a exo monolith to the head

[shrewd needle]

I'm using BB and I've had Bandits take 9 X 39 to the face when unarmoured.

Might be a bug, no idea.

[somber rose]

They're not different concepts. You just value one more than the other.

[inland mantle]

Not sure how, every headshot of mine in Pripyat dropped exo no problem. But body can take two 7.62x54

[shrewd needle]

Yes, because it's a game, so some things require abstraction, because otherwise, it gets pedantic.

[somber rose]

Yes, but both are pedantic.

[ebon blade]

It's not power abuse. I post the gifs that you chosse to share.
Additionally, I'll post images or screenshots that are on topic.
Otherwise, this place would just be a never-ending wall of text.

[shrewd needle]

TBF, might be a muzzle velocity thing...9 X 39 is slower, so might have the velocity loss and damage loss?

[shrewd needle]

It was a joke; I'm not actually accusing you of power abuse...

[somber rose]

If your argument is that all damage should be ammo based because it's realistic, and then say "barrel shouldn't matter because it's pedantic", you're both saying realism is valuable and valueless based on an arbitrary position.

[inland mantle]

I don’t think so, I could hit headshots one tap at max range so it’s not a range/velocity issue. Not sure why yours wouldn’t one tap

[shrewd needle]

Yes, but again...realism is implemented on a scale...100% realism in a game is painful and problematic, so some things are exempted.

Like not having extremities damage because if you get shot in the arm and are unable to shoot your gun, it's game over. And that's frustrating rather than fun, so...you get the point.

[ebon blade]

Some people do. The type of person that thinks no one should have a yacht, unless everyone gets to own one too.

[shrewd needle]

Happens pretty frequently, NGL.

[somber rose]

And your scale is arbitrary. There's no reason to value ammo damage over barrel damage.

[shrewd needle]

I do agree with the yachts, but I genuinely wasn't accusing you of power abuse. It was just the running joke about how only a few people can post GIFs here.

[inland mantle]

It’s almost impossible to get %100 realism because there are so many variables irl on ballistics that just can’t be replicated. Brass size, grains, lead, barrel length, rifling, weapon construction, bolt etc

[shrewd needle]

Problem is that in vanilla game, the guns don't even have damage worthy of consideration, so what damage is happening is rendered moot.

[shrewd needle]

Exactly my point.

[somber rose]

Tejas is actually a war criminal who has abused his powers. He's wanted by 17 countries. They got him into The Hague once, but he got out and added to his kill count significantly.

[inland mantle]

So in BB they roughly base it on how it would perform. They all perform similar but not exact

[somber rose]

Up damage. Gameifying based on preference.

I want full ballistics. I don't consider gameifying damage based on guns > ammo any different than ammo >= barrel.

[inland mantle]

Send him to the gulag!

[inland mantle]

We call those socialists….we don’t talk about that here

[shrewd needle]

Yes, as expected...except for the MP5 with .45 (which somehow does more damage than rifle rounds).

[shrewd needle]

Considering it's a game, full ballistics aren't possible, due to both being too much work and being a pain to play with. Some things have to be abstracted to make it playable and fun.

[somber rose]

Yes, but what you choose to abstract vs not is arbitrary.

[inland mantle]

That would depend on range. .45 will hit way harder at close range than a 5.56 designed for range and penetration

[somber rose]

Full ballistics are absolutely possible.

[honest ferry]

m10 is so bad

[inland mantle]

Don’t diss ma boy Gordon like that

[honest ferry]

you can spray all your bullets for 2 to hit

[shrewd needle]

Not really. Barrel rifling is one of those things whose implementation requires physical bullets, to start with, and I'm pretty sure bullets are hit-scan? Unless I mixed things up.

Second, for full ballistics, you require a shit ton of processing power.

[shrewd needle]

Exactly this; Skif needs to learn from this considering he's slow as hell.

[somber rose]

there are thousands of games with physical bullets, including the Stalker trilogy.

ARMA for instance has full ballistic simulation

[inland mantle]

S2 isn’t hitscan, that’s why bullets have velocity and trajectory here. They take time to get to target

[shrewd needle]

The trilogy also had much lower specifications due to lower-end graphics, smaller maps and so on.

[shrewd needle]

Except ARMA is a battle simulator; STALKER isn't.

[somber rose]

and ballistics would be handled by CPU, which has nothing to do with graphics

[somber rose]

So? Who cares?

[shrewd needle]

Fair; I was just confused which it was. I knew trilogy did have them, but wasn't sure about S2.

[somber rose]

You're arguing a losing position for the sake of arguing. Full ballistics is possible and desirable. You lose nothing from implementing it.

[shrewd needle]

Uh...everyone? STALKER is not a simulator, so trying to simulate 100% ballistics is an exercise in futility.

[somber rose]

I think if you asked anyone if they wanted it near 100% would say yes.

[inland mantle]

Hitscan is when you aim and it doesn’t matter the distance, it will instantly hit right where you aimed. Games like cod, whereas battlefield has ballistics

[somber rose]

What do you lose by saying yes?

[shrewd needle]

Because I can't. I, personally, do not want 100% realism.

More realism is good. Making it a reality simulator isn't.

[somber rose]

What do you lose via 100% ballistic simulation?

[inland mantle]

I would absolutely take as close to realism as possible

[somber rose]

Name one thing.

[shrewd needle]

As close to. Not 100%.

[somber rose]

Name. One. Thing. You. Lose.

[ebon blade]

That's an uncommon rifle to own.

[somber rose]

You're debating for the sake of debating.

[shrewd needle]

Because I don't want a simulator, to start with, meaning I have to think less and be able to have more fun with it.

[somber rose]

You have to think less by having full ballistics?

[inland mantle]

I say as close to because you cannot physically get %100 in a game, but you can get very very close which I love

[shrewd needle]

Not really. But if you want to think that, then do so.

[somber rose]

Bruh, you're saying you're negatively impacted by having full ballistics, which simply is not true.

[shrewd needle]

That's my point, you can't physically do 100% simulation and even if you could...is STALKER truly a game where you want to worry about aiming high over 1000 metres when fighting a massive Monolith force?

[somber rose]

You lose nothing. At all. It's in the background. It's just a nice thing to have. It's like arguing against having a cupholder in a car.

It's dumb.

[shrewd needle]

Funny you say that; I'd rather not have cup-holders and instead have phone chargers.

[inland mantle]

Iirc the CETME model 58 was the predecessor to the G3 wasn’t it?

[somber rose]

BUT IT'S NOT AN EITHER OR! YOU CAN HAVE BOTH!

God damn lmao.

"I want to have a soda, not a hamburger!"

[shrewd needle]

🤦

[inland mantle]

Absolutely because it’s purely for fun and satisfaction of making that long of a shot like you would have to irl

[shrewd needle]

Fine, as long as it's a toggle.

[inland mantle]

Gun nerds who play games with guns live for that stuff

[somber rose]

The cupholder should be a toggle

[ebon blade]

True story.

[inland mantle]

I don’t think that’s actually possible, have to have either hitscan or ballistics

[somber rose]

you prefer to have unrealistic ballistics?

The game's not even hitscan right now. It just does ballistics poorly. Which you prefer.

[shrewd needle]

I didn't say hit-scan vs. ballistics. I said a toggle between BB vs. 100% realistic ballistics.

[somber rose]

Bizarre. Pointless.

[inland mantle]

Man that things beefy, I bet when your prone your planted like a tree firing

[shrewd needle]

Because yes, I do not want to aim high in a game and do precision aiming when I just need to shoot a bunch of Monolithians.

[shrewd needle]

No, I prefer Better Ballistics; vanilla is shit.

BB is enough realism for me.

[somber rose]

Okay. You are alone in this.

[inland mantle]

That’s the beauty of it though, using a gun meant for the range you don’t have to. If the monolithians are 50 meters out there’s no need to compensate for drop when using a 5.56

[shrewd needle]

Most of my realism is satisfied with appropriate damage, penetration and weapon RoF.

[shrewd needle]

Yea, I know that.

[inland mantle]

If I could I would post a picture of my hunting rifle here

[shrewd needle]

#💬┃en_offtop allows file uploads and embeds.

[ebon blade]

I can't speak for Stalker 2 yet, because I really haven't tested it, but the original games had bullet drop way worse on 5.56 ammo than 5.45 ammo.

[somber rose]

I'm forming an anti-cupholder political lobbying group because phone chargers are good enough.

[shrewd needle]

I always thought that 5.56 had less drop but less damage? Or was that a bug?

[inland mantle]

It’s a Finnish Tikka T3 Hunter chambered in 300 WSM with a crimson trace 4-16x42mm scope and rubber butt pad. She kicks like a mule on roids with near max hand loads, but no game will even know it’s been shot

I can dm you a pic of it

[ebon blade]

I always thought it was some Dev bias in the games (2007-2009) that Soviet ammo was better than NATO.
I'll probably never get my hands on an AN-94 that could hit targets so much farther than the NATO weapons.

[shrewd needle]

You can just post it in #💬┃en_offtop. It'll embed.

[somber rose]

I just have a civvie AKS-74u right now.
I've owned

• Bersa Thunder .380
• CETME L
• AK-104
• Mosin Nagant

[honest ferry]

crazy burstfire an94

[shrewd needle]

Huh, fair enough...didn't know that, but interesting factoid.

TBF, Royal Armouries did a 2-part episode on that.

[ebon blade]

Where do you shoot at?

[somber rose]

I do not at the moment. I got laid off so my 5.56 stockpile is too precious to use.

[ebon blade]

Where did you shoot at?

[weary hedge]

a poor random guy walking by

[somber rose]

The CETME L was a pain though only greentip meant I had to go to specific ranges. Formerly Lone Star Gun Range in Lockhart, prior to that Best of the West in Liberty Hill, but they closed down

[inland mantle]

The discord should totally have a gun nuts channel for everything irl firearms

[ebon blade]

No indoor shooting at Red's in Pflugerville?

[somber rose]

Nah. prefer outdoor, although I'm a Pviller.

Best indoor is Shady Oaks in Cedar Park though

[ebon blade]

I've been to Lone Star Gun Range in Lockhart. Have not been to The Range in south Austin. Seems snooty.

[somber rose]

Agreed. That's Joe Rogan's range, expensive too.

Lone Star is one of the very few that allows greentip ammo.

Tbh when I'm employed again I intend to get into black powder, which again limits me to outdoor lol

[ebon blade]

I've been to both Red's. I think the one in south Austin has been gone for some time.

[somber rose]

There was a murder at the pville one, but I've never been there beyond hunting for ammo during Covid.

[honest ferry]

i wanna go shooting again been a while

[ebon blade]

The south location was the one where the mother took her son and then shot him in the back of the head when he was shooting.

[somber rose]

I just want a job

[honest ferry]

but neighbour busy cant take me

[somber rose]

Oh was it? I thought it was the North one for some reason

[honest ferry]

he got massive collection of guns for someone living in germany

since its so regulated here

[somber rose]

I'm actually not a terribly big 2nd amendment guy, but I kinda want to just show up at gun ranges dressed up as a civil war soldier or conquistador and absolutely filling the place with smoke.

[honest ferry]

[somber rose]

I want to buy an arquebus

[inland mantle]

I’d take 2nd amendment over Canadian laws. I can’t even own a colt single action army. But I can own a flintlock pistol that is dated pre 1885 without a licence

[honest ferry]

did they change the law or do black powder weapons still not classify as weapons in texas

[somber rose]

Our gun laws are extremely lax. Not sure about the specifics.

[honest ferry]

Herrera said so lol

you can own black powder guns without a licence

[inland mantle]

Canada is lame af for gun enthusiasts

[somber rose]

I want a LeMat and a Mississippi 1841 musket

[honest ferry]

LeMat probably cost a kidney

[somber rose]

They're about 1400ish

For a replica, obviously. I'd never shoot a historical rarirty.

[honest ferry]

damn i thought they were rare collection pieces

ah makes sense

[somber rose]

I have some historical artifacts from WW2 and the Cold War, but I would never use them.

daggers, medals, flags, uniform pieces, etc.

And some Saddam-era Iraq stuff

fedayeen helmet, holy grail

[ebon blade]

You might be right. I'm trying to find more info. Maybe I got my stories mixed up about the mother-son thing.
What I thought was in Texas, might have been in Florida. I know there was some incident at Red's south.

[somber rose]

In the words of our Warrior Poet, Tai Nguyen,

"Don't get caught in P-town after-dark, you look like you belong in Cedar Park."

[honest ferry]

last time neighbour brought me to shoot his lee enfield jungle carbine but the ammo load was so shit it would miss 1/5 shots from 300ft

[ebon blade]

Austin used to have a lot more Black people decades past. Most of them I know moved to Pflugerville.

[somber rose]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o_KZ6qzCAM

Pflugerville Nationalism 🫡 🫡 🫡 🫡 🫡 🫡

[somber rose]

Old news, most of East Austin's Black population has been gentrified to places like Manor tbh

Pflugerville has an above average Black population for the Austin area though.

[ebon blade]

Austin is about 7.51% Black - Pflugerville about 17.1%

[somber rose]

Yeah check out the surrounding cities though. Places like Manor are nearly 22% now despite not having a terribly large historical population

Unironically though, Pflugerville is cheap because it kinda sucks. I just like that we have a rapper.

Round Rock and Georgetown 🤝 Buda and Kyle

[ebon blade]

You are right. Manor is about 22.3% to 22.55% Black. That's almost twice the national average.

[somber rose]

Yeah, nothing compared to the rest of the South though for sure.

Lots of places in Dixie proper are 50%->90% Black.

[honest ferry]

weird stuff to be talking in stalker channel

[ebon blade]

That reminds me of when these memes first came out.

[somber rose]

you have to admit it plays into it to call one of the only Black stalkers in the zone "Swedish" though lol

[ebon blade]

Not into Vietnamese Rap Comedians?

[somber rose]

that's one of his like, 5 songs about Pville too.

[ebon blade]

I've probably seen about 100 Black Stalkers in S2 so far.

[honest ferry]

its not surprising seeing that many live in sweeden

after they opened their borders mid 90s

[somber rose]

Sweden does have a lot of Arabs though

[honest ferry]

they have alot of everything

[somber rose]

Indeed, small population countries are disproportionately affected by immigration demographically.

Nordic history is very interesting as most of it is "We can't grow anything here bro this sucks, steal everything not nailed down from our neighbors"

[honest ferry]

dont wanna be sounding racist or anything but open border policy is pretty bad

lets in anyone without background checks

alot of time they cant even do background checks because they rip up their papers

[somber rose]

I don't disagree, but this may not be the place to discuss something so unfortunately controversial.

[honest ferry]

real and true

we shall discuss zone border policies

[hardy totem]

I'd say that's straying into politics yeah

[honest ferry]

zone politics

[ebon blade]

At least everyone has the right to enter the Zone and die accordingly.

[honest ferry]

saving that

[somber rose]

It's actually remarkable how non-political Stalker 2 is, I appreciate it, considering the situation of the country.

I was very worried it was going to be a propaganda piece.

[honest ferry]

i mean they did make some refrences

funny ones

[somber rose]

Very happy with it

[somber rose]

I remember some braindead redditors thought Soviet vehicles being in the red forest was an 'easter egg' to the war, like bro lol

The devs did a REMARKABLE job not dating the game like that.

[honest ferry]

[ebon blade]

Yes, in 2007, Shadow of Chernobyl was one of the few games to get past the censors in Germany, since all the competition was doing FPS with Nazis and WW2.

[somber rose]

I miss those days tbh. Now it's just 'near future' garbage.

Although Germany has eased up on the censorship of games

[honest ferry]

game devs still censor ww2 iconography linked with the natzees

[somber rose]

To a far lesser extent than they used to though.

For instance Paradox isn't even forced to anymore

In regards to historical censorship the largest still in effect in regards to game dev is depicting warlord era China

[honest ferry]

alright thats interesting small fiat car with a 106mm recoiless rifle

gun is longer than the car

[somber rose]

I'm playing Vicky 3 as spain and I just want America to invade Mexico so I can reconquer it without fighting them too. please america please

[honest ferry]

i gotta get back into cities skylines

paradox game

[somber rose]

ehhh published

[ebon blade]

We need this Vespa in Stalker 2.

[honest ferry]

shame i will most likely be selling my pc soon

back to console 😭

[honest ferry]

driver sitting on the breech

tomorrow going on 3 week long vacay

[weary hedge]

God damn that things wicked

[somber rose]

I'm still trying to figure out what car is it the ward uses

[honest ferry]

the armored car?

with the 12.7 on top

[somber rose]

yeah

[honest ferry]

kinda looks like the french panhard vbl

[weary hedge]

I have one in my garage at home

[hardy totem]

Is it even supposed to be a vehicle that exists IRL? GSC has no issue with adding hardware that has no real life counterparts

[weary hedge]

why? what specs does it have and why you selling?

[somber rose]

I don't believe so, but there is usually a base

[honest ferry]

forced to sell due to money shortage

i have loan to cover

[weary hedge]

😢

[ebon blade]

I've got about 2,500 screenshots so far. Can't find a good pic of it yet.

[honest ferry]

its a good pc shame really

[stark crescent]

student debt?

[honest ferry]

nah private matter

[stark crescent]

you american?

[honest ferry]

I built it myself 7 months ago It got a Ryzen 9800x3d Nvidia 3090TI founders edition and 32gb of ram

[stark crescent]

price of a 3090ti founders is around 2 grand something?

not exactly hardware you buy when you have a debt to pay

[honest ferry]

i got mine for 900

[stark crescent]

how you pulled that off? had someone else pay of his debt?

[hardy totem]

Yeah that checks

[ebon blade]

This one?

[somber rose]

Aye

[weary hedge]

why did you overpay so much for it

[ebon blade]

GSC usually models things on real actual vehicles. It wouldn't make sense just to fabricate something.

[somber rose]

I went through practically every such vehicle currently used, only thing that comes close are some from the Phillipines

[weary hedge]

there's vehicles you can drive in stalker2???

[somber rose]

No, only lore vehicles.

[inland mantle]

Main mission of a dlc having you riding that, gunning down mutants

[weary hedge]

😔

[inland mantle]

Hey, maybe a dlc will implement them in some way, like a tank to breach an enemy fortress or something

Scripted event but still implemented

[honest ferry]

only owe 1300 which i can pay off gradually but parents are forcing me to sell

[ebon blade]

I was leaning at stuff from South Africa.

[somber rose]

Too many doors and too large. The ward vehicle is like 50% that 50% German ww2 halftrack

[ebon blade]

These type of vehicles can have many different cab variations.

[somber rose]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/MX-8_Armored_Escort_Vehicle.jpg

[ebon blade]

It's just a matter of finding the right picture.

[ebon blade]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/MX-8_Armored_Escort_Vehicle.jpg

That's looks pretty good.

[somber rose]

But Phillipines is a random choice lol

[inland mantle]

That looks like the Ukrainian oncilla

[ebon blade]

I would find it hard to believe GSC would create their own when it's easier to copy real life models.

[inland mantle]

The now called Dozer-B

That’s definitely a Dozer-B

[ebon blade]

And we have a winner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dozor-B

[inland mantle]

Used to be called the Oncilla

Really nice looking vehicle

[somber rose]

There she is, had no idea why I didn't find that one, good work

[hardy totem]

Just found that one yeah

[ebon blade]

The first prototype of Dozor-B was first shown in October 2004.[

10 Dozor-B were delivered to the Armed Forces of Ukraine in June 2016, before further orders were cancelled due production delays and manufacturing defects.

In August 2019 was announced that Ukrainian MoD will purchase Polish Oncilla instead of Dozor-B. The Oncilla is a Polish-licensed variant produced by MISTA. As of March 2023, at least 30 Oncillas are in Ukrainian service.

[inland mantle]

It’s too bad they aren’t implemented in game for NPC’s. Would be cool to see the ward showing up driving them like when you see the helicopter going to the slag heap

Or ward patrols in them

[ebon blade]

Polish Oncilla

Dozer-B

See how it has that same protrusion on the side above the rear tire?

@somber rose

We have a winner. Ward drives a Dozer-B.

[inland mantle]

Where do you see them in game? I can’t say I’ve actually seen one

And I’ve done a couple playthroughs now

[ebon blade]

There was one parked in Zalissya at the start of the game.

[inland mantle]

Oh wow how did I not notice them. Gonna check them out when I start again

[ebon blade]

There might be another one at the Pontoon bridge leaving the Lesser Zone.

[weary hedge]

hell nah im not paying for a dlc until the base game gets fixed first. dont get me wrong I like the game but you're a joke to me if you release a dlc before the base game still isn't finished yet

[meager crag]

Based

[inland mantle]

The team that does all the fixing of the base game is seperate from the team doing dlc, so chances are when dlc does come out it will be fairly polished in comparison. That being said, a good majority of stuff has been fixed, there’s still some decent bugs but it plays way better than it did before

1.6 is supposed to bring over 1700 fixes, improve optimization and smooth out janky animations and whatnot

[weary hedge]

i want stalker2 ue 5.6 update ngl

[inland mantle]

Nah that’ll just break everything all over again

5.5bis bad anyways. Ark ascended updated to 5.6 and it’s worse than before

[torn gate]

GOD NO that'll break everything again

[inland mantle]

Update engine mid game not good

[torn gate]

I ain't waiting through another 8 months for them to fix the game all over again

[inland mantle]

Exactly. Sure in theory 5.6 could really help run smooth, but that means fixing everything wrong with the original code AGAIN

[torn gate]

And a dumb decision for any dev to pull

[inland mantle]

If they were to do that they might as well remake it from scratch on the newest version which, nobody would want

[torn gate]

I rather have a less smooth experience over a total reset of bugs to fix in 8 months

[inland mantle]

All they have to do is optimize the game better which has been improved every update. Launch was so bad but now it’s pretty smooth

I’m honestly not running into any major game breaking bugs, lots of minor ones but nothing terrible. If 1.6 goes as planned then it’s probably time to start dishing out the 3/4 of missing content

[torn gate]

The launch was bad but I rather have that then Cyberpunk 2077 launch

[inland mantle]

Facts, it was quite literally unplayable. S2 will do a turnaround like CP did

[torn gate]

And same the game seems mostly fixed other than some minor bugs I can live with I would love if they add some cut quests after 1.6

[ocean glen]

whats 1.6 supposed to add

[inland mantle]

Cut quests, cut weapons locations everything. I think GSC will deliver. Sure they only have 460 employees, but CDPR only has 1200 and look at cyberpunk launch vs now. I think S2 will do a 180

[torn gate]

I'm honestly surprised at how bad cyberpunk launch was especially compared to stalker 2's where the dev's homeland got invaded during production and it still came out better than cyberpunk

[inland mantle]

1700 bug fixes, better ukranian lipsync, better optimization, alife improvement, auto detect graphics setting and apparently some new guns

[inland mantle]

Yeah I don’t know who looked at it and said it was fine to launch, but they should’ve been fired for making that call

[meager crag]

Same with HoC fr

[torn gate]

I didn't even know they have 460 employees I thought they have a lot more

[meager crag]

Game got released too soon

[inland mantle]

Nope, really small company

[inland mantle]

Yeah it could’ve used another year in the oven, but at least it’s been improving ever since

[meager crag]

True

Same with 77

[inland mantle]

But is console players still want our damn fov slider 😂 the 60 fov is the only thing that’s kept me from playing a second playthrough

[weary hedge]

performance are really bad now atm they need to fix it tho, when you get into a village the fps drops are crazy

[torn gate]

Honestly stalker 2 looks more impressive now with that information like CDPR had more man power, time, and not had to deal with a pandemic and war in the middle of production and cp still came like that at launch

[inland mantle]

Depends what your on. I’m on series x and 60fps all day long even in Pripyat with minor fps drops

[meager crag]

The controls are too janky for me tbh

[inland mantle]

0 crashes since a couple updates back

[meager crag]

I miss the fluid controls of the Trilogy

[weary hedge]

im on pc and my fps drops from 110-120 all the way down to 50-60 when I enter a village

[meager crag]

...so far

[ocean glen]

the new guns sound sweet what ones they adding

[torn gate]

I had a few at duty's base

[inland mantle]

Yeah but I’ve had 0 crashes for a couple months, whereas at launch was crashing every 30 minutes. Big improvements

[weary hedge]

crashes are not the problem even tho sometimes they happen but really really rare

[meager crag]

My game crashes yesterday when I was loading a save

[inland mantle]

Not sure, it isn’t confirmed if they even are adding guns but given what we’ve seen in game for models, we can probably expect AKM and rdp for sure as both models exist in game, as does PPSH-41

[inland mantle]

No not saying that, but on console S2 runs really smooth now

[meager crag]

PPSH would be wack as heck, ngl

[weary hedge]

same thing happened for me once lol, i was loading a save yesterday or 2 days ago i dont remember now and the game crashed, I think this is a common problem then ig

[inland mantle]

Nah it would be epic to pelt mutants with 7.62x25 tokarev

[meager crag]

Wack indeed

[torn gate]

My fps hasn't dropped once in weeks after trying to download that realistic forest mod at least so I think stalker 2 on console is doing pretty good 💯

[weary hedge]

console is good for price performance but nothing compares to steam juicy seasonal sales 🤤

[inland mantle]

Nah epic. PPSH-41 is a goated smg

[weary hedge]

fps drops when the game is capped at 60 makes sense that they're rare

[torn gate]

If stalker 2 looked like CP at launch I probably wouldn't be a stalker fan ngl

[inland mantle]

At least with console though I don’t have to make sure my specs are good enough to run games as they are usually play test before launch. And I’ve seen too many people having issues on pc where consoles aren’t on launch. Pc is awesome when it runs good, but for the sake of my sanity I’m not in a rush for a pc

[meager crag]

Then they'd have to add a unique ammo type specifically for this weapon. I don't see it happening tbh

[weary hedge]

just buy a good gpu and cpu and you'll never have to worry about specs even on pc lol, what is even this argument

[inland mantle]

Eventually I’ll switch but I just wanna sit back and play a game, not play inSPECter gadget

[ebon blade]

I'm waiting for someone to catch the Keanu Reeves joke.

[ocean glen]

i caught it reminded me of yo momma

[inland mantle]

Not just that but games just flat out being horribly optimized on pc compared to console on launch. Happens all the time. Ac shadows ran perfect on launch for console, but pc chat was constantly flooded with game won’t even launch, constant crashes etc on fully built up to date rigs

[ebon blade]

My momma is dead.

[ocean glen]

damnnnnnnn

[weary hedge]

spending 10 hours tweaking settings on pc > playing the game on console with the settings already tweaked out and optimised for the console itself.
I have like 20 hours into the game and maybe half of it is trying to tweak the settings 😂

[inland mantle]

I’m not trashing pc, but I am blaming companies for optimizing stuff better on console a lot more

[weary hedge]

you think consoles run at max graphics settings? turn down the graphics settings even on pcs and all games wont have any issues

[meager crag]

Have some respect

[torn gate]

You wanna share?

[weary hedge]

you dont realise consoles use lower graphics compared to pc so you have the illusion of games running better on console

[ocean glen]

no

[grim wharf]

Tell that to cod devs

[torn gate]

You disappointed strider

[inland mantle]

It’s not an illusion when a game launches and console is running fine and everyone on pc is crashing. That’s not a pc vs console thing it’s the devs not optimizing properly for the platform. And it’s usually pc that gets the short end of the stick on launch, happens all the time

And I don’t mean max graphics on each, but mid settings even

[weary hedge]

wait until I turn down the graphics settings on my pc to match it as an xbox or ps5

[weary hedge]

nah crashes are more rare than you think you just dont know

[weary hedge]

yet stalker 2 and mh wilds look kinda bad on console

[meager crag]

Bruh, average day on STOC

[inland mantle]

Im not talking about graphics, im talking about flat out janky code and horrible optimization. Im not saying pc doesnt run better, but on launch a lot of games on pc run bad for a bit til the devs fix it, thats just a fact

[weary hedge]

ofc

[meager crag]

How do you know?

[weary hedge]

mh wilds should run well on ps5 and xbox x since it's optimised right? right???

[ebon blade]

Are you on a Console now? What happened to the PC?

[meager crag]

People were definitely banned for saying less

[weary hedge]

bro's never seen how mh wilds looks on console

[weary hedge]

ngl sounds like weak mentality to me

[supple moon]

Yooooo

[meager crag]

Ofc, we're jannies

[inland mantle]

No clue, I don’t play MH. But by theory yes it should run good if it’s properly optimized

[supple moon]

Cod??

[weary hedge]

yes bro of course wait until he finds out how mh wilds runs on console 😂

[torn gate]

Why are you guys still talking about fps?

[weary hedge]

the only problem I have with the game is the fps dropping from 120 in one area and then going down to 50-60 in another area

[meager crag]

Welp, in that case

!tempmute @ocean glen 24h suggesting necrophilia, you silly

[weary hedge]

because framerate is important to make the game enjoyable

[frigid hill]

amillion11 has been muted for 1 day

Reason: suggesting necrophilia, you silly

Muted until · Aug 1, 2025, 8:25 AM

[torn gate]

I don't really care about fps as long as it isn't too choppy and I really don't get why you care that much

[ebon blade]

Just Artem. I think he has more hours here complaining than playing the game.

[meager crag]

People were definitely banned for stuff like this, so he's lucky for now

[torn gate]

The staff don't care about him for now

[meager crag]

@torn gate
You're on thin ice too with that earlier comment

[ebon blade]

My mom would thank you, but she's dead.

[torn gate]

I apologize for my earlier statement

[ebon blade]

No problem.

You just have to make momma jokes more classy.

[weary hedge]

you play on console so you probably dont understand, dropping from 120 to 50-60 is crazy bad

[weary hedge]

ill be honest, you are damn right

[weary hedge]

more like, why are people that care about their game running smooth

[meager crag]

He is me fr

[torn gate]

Us fans are always good at complaining I can't deny that

[ebon blade]

We are all playing the same game. The big variable is all the different hardware we are all using, including different video cards with a multitude of different software settings.

[weary hedge]

im relating to the cpu performance issues now, my fps doesnt drop from 120 to 60 when I enter populated areas because of my 5080 not being strong enough, it's my 7800x3d that is barely holding up and is giving me this bad drop 😂

cpu performance is the issue with this game imo

dropping so bad even with a 7800x3d seems like a joke to me

ive tried changing res and dropping it to 1080 but the fps stays low anyways so i came to realise it's cpu performance not gpu

[ebon blade]

So, blame AMD?

[torn gate]

That's a lot of words and I don't care about reading them

[weary hedge]

no, the 7800x3d is insanely good on most games I play, this is the only game that makes my cpu sweat (and a little also mh wilds because sometimes i saw 83c on my cpu whereas on other games im never above 75c.

[honest ferry]

necrophila what the

[ebon blade]

What country are you in?

[weary hedge]

Italy

but i was born in Ukraine

[honest ferry]

🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦

[frigid hill]

stupideverett has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[still current]

what did he say

[still current]

He said fuck

[ebon blade]

[weary hedge]

you just said it as well time to mute you :)

[forest scarab]

Wtf is the "aim accuracy" stat when you upgrade your weapon

[weary hedge]

dont ask me im just a girl

[forest scarab]

Okay

[charred nova]

Well we better ban you then

To maximize immersion

[grave wyvern]

Anyone know when upgrade will be available? I want the extra suits.

[charred nova]

No idea

Someday ™

[grave wyvern]

😞

I wish I could go back in time and buy it from the start smh

[ebon blade]

That means you are upgrading the accuracy when you aim. In other words, improved accuracy.

[forest scarab]

No. It says "A more comfortable handguard design reduces sight sway when firing from the shoulder."

I do not understand what that means. What is a sight sway. What does it look like.

[thin apex]

probabaly means there's less idle sway when aiming down sights

which is more aggregiously seen if you're using a higher powered optic

it's a poorly done way to write it since it should just tell you "10% less idle sway" or smth but it doesnt

[golden haven]

Stalkers are generally nice people, they roam the zone and do whatever they want

[still current]

If we muted for saying fuck, I bet the only ones to remain here will be mod team not that we don't say it, but cuz wolf can't stand to us lmao

[safe imp]

why do i have to recompile shaders when i open the game? 🥲

[weary hedge]

perms abuse

[safe imp]

third time so far... it takes like 10+ minutes

[weary hedge]

game sucks

[chrome jetty]

Optimization purposes, you can disable it with a mod, although it is not advised

[safe imp]

but why does it have to happen every time?

[weary hedge]

slow ahh pc

[chrome jetty]

UE5 do be like that

[safe imp]

that definitely shouldn't happen..

[smoky hawk]

just click the skip button

[safe imp]

my pc is definitely not that slow

[chrome jetty]

It very much happens to other games as well, but still, you can skip it

[still current]

Dw the upgrade is official, so it'll come when it's ready.