#☢┃stalker-general
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Hi guys! Where can I write to talk to the administration? Is it possible to create a ticket here?
Honestly a really easy trick to keeping your pipes from getting frozen is just keep the taps running just barely.
You have a technical problem or an issue here on the server?
Like reporting a bug or
For technical report you can click on the link in this channel
https://discord.com/channels/504587323577729024/1308753015355740181
no I want to become a streamer and I would like to talk to the administration about the rights to the game, like there will be no problems if I stream without permission, etc.
Hey question will the remasters of the OG trilogy support controllers on PC?
so mod support is tomorrow or Friday
People stream games without permission all the time
Well, as long as they don't use licensed music along with it...
Only thing streamers need to worry really is music licenses but most games these days come with streamer mode that disables that content
Where'd you hear that?
lol okay.
Then the next question is can I get a key for S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl. Enhanced Edition specifically the beta test version?
I think there is a thing you can turn on when streaming
What’s up big dogs
Turn on that thing (forgot where exactly) so copyright music won't be playing when you stream
i watch it on YouTube
buh what
"im a mega streamer with 7 followes give free stuff pl0x"
Did said YouTube video have an actual source for this? I know we're getting the patch either tomorrow or Friday, but this is the first I've heard that it's supposed to included SDK mod support.
If you have the og game, you will get the enhanced version for free
I heard that it wasn’t coming with SDK?
Well, the beta test is still 5 days away and I would like to stream and compare the beta version and the version after release because you can't buy the beta version now
Good luck with that
The Enhanced trilogy is supposed to have a beta test?
No, I haven't bought a stalker before.
Oh…
no idea
First I'm hearing of it.
1.4 is coming with SDK? Thought that wasn’t happening yet?
That's what @chrome gazelle is claiming. Apparently they heard about it on YouTube but don't provide any actual source.
I heard the opposite so now I’m just confused lmao.
Source: Out of my rear. Pretty much
:d
Yeah, it's opposite to what I've heard as well.
Let's just assume not for now lol
I've also not heard anything about the Enhanced Edition of Legends of the Zone having a beta test.
Way ahead of ya.
Agreed.
Yeah, I am just simply waiting for patch
I’m gonna be waiting for mods to catch up.
I have heard that there's speculation that GSC is prepping to drop almost everything that was seen in the roadmap in a single patch, which I find hard to believe.
Now, if they actually pulled that off, it'd be incredible, but I highly doubt that's going to happen. Could the patch have more than we were expecting? Sure, but I definitely wouldn't expect everything at once like that.
Definitely not, “fool me twice” is what I say.
As long as enemies stop spawning 10m from me because i ran past concrete pillar im happy
Yeah, I saw it mentioned off-handedly on the subreddit, and their source was some YouTube video, which means it's very likely to be BS.
They’re always saying BS for views, or likes or whatever shit kids want these days.
Tiktoks or some shit.
Too many Zoomers on Reddit imo.
Man, I hate the Volkhov AA Burer fight...20 guns firing at me all at once... 😡
Too much brain-rot.
Just rush em
Too many with lack of ability to use search engines
I did; problem is I have 'Better Ballistics', so Burer does a lot more damage to me with the guns... 😆
Holy shit yes, that's exactly it.

Too many people on there who would have a reactor four meltdown for stepping on a lego
I get 3X or more the damage compared to vanilla. And even if the guns don't kill me, the Poltergeist-like throws do.
Even when they have the glorified search engine chatgpt
IDK how the Burer can just be a Poltergeist, but man...even Poltergeists don't do so much damage.
Magic
Well, poltergeist do such damage
Poltergeists just want you to leave them alone, they're shy
They are easier to evade and that's it
Poltergeists are too freaking tanky.
Burers are harder because they are smarter
Or at least they were last I played.
Let it melt i say 
I mean, people are already losing their minds because they'll have to install cooler mods manually as opposed to doing it through the Steam Workshop.
God forbid you little shits learn how to navigate a hierarchical file structure.
I like workshop for convenience but I still use Nexus mainly.
Would love MO2 over both tho.
I remember when Steam Workshop didn't exist. Hell, I remember when Steam was green.
They lose their minds when game updates and breaks mods
Yea, but for me, all Poltergeists are 3-hit kills for me, while Burers kill me in a single hit.
Somehow developers fault that mod author didnt update in 0.02seconds patch hit
Yea, I'm more than happy to leave them alone 6-feet under.
MO2 has to be my favorite mod organizer, very easy to use and gives me good information.
I know something you don't, and I wish I could say it
No, no, the actual damage of hits is different, evasion is different.
Anyways
God, the incessant whining is the worst part. It's why I've mostly stayed away from the subreddit for the past few months.
You can, you just holding out on a fellow stalker.
I’m like 22 years old, and feel like people whine too much over nothing.
That's what Reddit is for, though.
You'll know soon enough

You would have loved Rog
That someone should "git gud" ?
(Insert susdog GIF here)

Depends on the sub really. Reddit is basically just a forum with thousands of sub-forums; some subs are full of adults while others are full of petulant children.
There's no gitting gud here... 😔
Not with that attitude!
Reason: Bad word usage
Oh, I know, but I'm saying considereing the general crowd. For that matter, one could find a logical person on 4chan as well, but overall...you know how it is... 😔
Lol.
Burrers have exactly the same damage as poltergeists (telekinesis at least)
Wolf, I don’t tell you how to spew shit out yo mouth so ya don’t tell me how to spew mine.
But then how is it that every Poltergeist I found, I survived while Burers would often one-hit kill me? Like, not even evading shit, but the actual hits...
Fair enough, and you're right. At the same time though, Reddit used to be way more of a cesspool. Back in the day, it was a lot closer to 4chan than a lot of redditors probably want to admit.
For some reason this convo reminds me of Nicado Avocado.
Dude disgraces himself for internet clout.
Considering we live in the age of skibidi toilet...I'm pretty sure I wouldn't call it any better, unfortunately... 😔
Guns, and psi shields hold the difference
Poltergeists are dumber in terms of ai
Burrers won't get stuck while changing spots
If you pick up every gun nearby the burer will only pelt rocks at you
Poltergeists at this point are more of an inconvenience.
Eh....we had brainrot back in our day too. YouTube Poops, Nyan Cat, Badger Badger, various shit on Newgrounds, etc.
That...makes a lot more sense.
Better chance of not dying
Yea, I know, but in the Volkhov AA complex, there's just not enough cover to avoid the guns, so you either rush the Burer or die. Especially since it's dark enough to make everything invisible.
I like how Newgrounds is still going, it's one of the places all the Tumblr NSFW artists migrated to.
Appreciate the explanation, honestly. 🙏
I mean, at least that brain-rot was entertaining.
Exactly
Yea, I tend to do it if the area has some light, but Volkhov...can barely see shit.
Man back when I was a kid all I did was watch Pewdiepie and play happy wheels lmao.
Maybe even some Left 4 Dead.
But funnily enough, if you know enough, you could obliterate a burrer in an instant. Poltergeists are tankier in that case
Yea, of course; I learnt that lesson the difficult way after losing my Gauss Rifle once.
Never again.
I personally never had issues dealing with either
I've watched Skibidi Toilet out of curiousity, and while I wouldn't call it entertaining, it's certainly more interesting than you'd expect, especially compared to when it first started. There's a whole plot revolving around the toilet heads being an invading alien force or some shit, and they're being fought off by camera and TV-headed people, it's wild.
Got rid of them pretty quickly
Do grenades work against shield? Or not?
No, wait till it goes down again
Burer with knife? Or something else? 'Cause I think I got melee'd by a Burer once?
Burers are going to be able to throw our grenades back at us.
Eeek!
I had the pants shitting moment of losing a Saiga once, immediately got my skull blown open
Bro, you’ll never catch me watching Skibidi Toilet lmao.
You used to be able to slap burers with knives but it's a bit difficult after the updates
Silent moment for the lost brain cells
I haven't updated the game, still on 1.1.3; will probably only do it after 1.4.
I just wanted to see what the deal was. I never made a habit out of it.
My condolences... 😔
I don’t watch it out of principle.
Fair. So throw grenades and unload Skif's Makarov on it (with shield down) and wait for it to die.
Truthfully the instant I hear a buerer out comes the saiga for a point blank mag dump
Yeah, that's basically how I deal with it
Eh, in my opinion it really wasn't that much worse than what we had back in the early days of YouTube. I mean remember the whole "random" humor trend from back in the day?
Problem is the Burer can yank your Saiga out of your hands and make it disappear. I'd rather not lose an upgraded weapon.
Sometimes I grab my shotgun and try to blast it away and stow the gun away before it grabs it
Most of the time back in the golden age of YouTube I was just watching some people play Nerf super seriously or falling off ladders.
I dont really recall much from early youtube days. Generally didnt watch the popular crap
I don't even bother after I lost my Gauss Rifle (I got it back with reloading save, but still).

Star rating was nice tho
Run at him with Skif’s pistol or a knife, get close, ram the barrel in his eye socket and keep pulling the trigger until he looks like ground burger
The warlock midget stole your gauss rifle lmao
I was always watching or playing Happy Wheels, or when Gmod was becoming popular.
Miss those days tbh.
Didn't just steal...it literally just disappeared; IDEK where it landed. Couldn't find it anywhere.
I didn't either. I absolutely despised Pewdiepie, Markiplier, and al of the other screaming YouTubers.
Then sweep the remains into a whirligig or fruit punch for responsible clean up
Yeah never clicked any of those vids
I think Pewdiepie was funnier back then though, not now however.
I never found any of them funny, I found them annoying as hell.
Speaking of this, I wish there was some Gravity Gun like gadget in-game, made of anomalies, so you could actually pick things up and throw them into Whirligigs.
Markiplier is a lot chill nowadays, I still watch him
I was just a kid so I found stupid things to be more funny.
Eh i spend my days playing half life and then counter strike when it came out and played 1.6 until like 2015 lol
Yeah, from what I've seen Markiplier is much more chill nowadays. I don't watch him, but it was nice to see that change.
You can still be a kid. 😏
I’d pop in on mark and Pewdiepie occasionally but my main thing I watched when I was younger was TearofGrace and some others I can’t remember lmfao
That was one of my favorites, or I’d be watching GTA IV with zombie mods.
I was like 10 years old and knew how to work around the computer to watch or play what I want lmao.
I used to watch a lot of radbrad, back when I was still around my parents and they wouldn't let me play any games
Although I still watch his stuff if it's a game I might play
Anyone watched FightinCowboy at all?
OOO, my favorite day was getting Dead Space 1 for the first time.
A bit, not on a regular basis though.
Truth be told, I don't really watch let's players, it's just never appealed to me.
I pop in on him occasionally but he’s not my main thing lmao
I only watch Lets Players only if it’s intriguing enough.
Charborg is usually who I watch, I don't watch as much youtube these days
Actually I take that back, I do watch some let's plays and walkthroughs, but not very often.
Lately my feed is mainly Tearofgrace, some of the content creators here, pc building guides and guns
I have a playlist of an old let's play/podcast hybrid that I use as a sleep aid.
Pasha UA is not a streamer but he recently started playing stardew valley. I don't know when he'll stream any time soon though.
Lately I’ve been interested in 40k particularly the Space Marine Raptors on YouTube.
I generally quit watching gaming youtubers since some outright lack skill and look dubious
And then that Mark guy I still watch
I deleted my Twitch account a few months ago because I had just stopped watching streamers almost entirely. Besides, almost anyone I give a shit about is streaming on YouTube as well, which is far more convenient for me.
First time I ever watched Markiplier was when FNAF 1 was storming the internet.
And some just get caught cheating years later and post some "im sowwy"
real important question of the week: why can't GSC save a cookie when I give my birthday, on the website, so that every time I return to check the news (you know, about the 1.4 patch) I don't have to re-enter my birthday? Thanks for your attention to this critical matter.
I honestly just watch true crime that doesn't have the annoying music and just unedited interrogations. Gameplay videos not so much my thing anymore.
I watch some scary shit some times, like old footage of some infamous or some lesser known psychopaths.
Eh almost miss the 009 sound system dreamscape tutorials
The gun stuff is making me consider grabbing a few things myself
You can never overprepare tbh.
Agreed
Who's PSR?
YouTube hates anything they can’t make money off of or doesn’t politically align.
Just the way they are.
He's the funny 3d printer of guns
Yeah, no idea who that is.
I know that guy, European right?
I like Forgotten Weapons and EXP/Royal Armouries.
No, lol
I think you're thinking of someone else
Ah, was thinking of that other guy.
Also Zach Hazard when he does gun stuff.
Debating snagging the PSA Stizon eventually
I like gun nerds over gun fetishists.
I’ve been craving that PSA AK556 with a buffer tube and AR15 mag adapter.
Love the controls of an AK.
PSR is basically the first one, but sometimes he does funny stuff that I can't mention here
I really like wood furniture and filigree, so I'd want to get a nice Henry lever-action and a nice over-under shotgun.
PSA did recently make a 5.45 Krink and AAC is gonna start producing 5.45 in the US eventually
He's like the gun nerd but with a dead pool personality is the best description I can give
I still prefer 5.56 tbh.
I don't own my own gun, but I like to get one some day.
Just don't have the money, and I don't have a safe space to store it either.
Get one man, ya never know what could happen.
Especially since so many want to take ‘em away, ain’t no good reason for someone to take your defense away.
Well for now I have a dog, so I'm good.
Problem is I’m broke as shit and still looking for a job after my move lmfao
I'd rather people be responsible and not get it, than to just get it all willy nilly
Defense is also a responsibility.
Yeah, I want my gun purchase to be intentional rather than spur-of-the-moment and fueled by fear.
Can't get guns if they're not legal to own, unfortunately.
I don't think there are actually that many places where guns are completely illegal.
Fortunately I’m in a Constitutional Carry state in the US so I’m all good.
Doesn't have to happen this instant
You think shit is gonna wait for you to be armed?
People in europe ain't got so much luck lol
But idk where Tim resides
Pretty sure you can get guns in Europe, it's just not as ridiculously easy as in the US.
Upstate New York, USA.
I'm in one of those places.
- You need to first file a request with an adequate reason for owning a gun.
- Half or more get rejected.
- If you do get approved, the cops decide what gun and calibre you get.
I’m Missouri.
That third point seems kind of silly.
@shrewd needle What country are you in?
That “kinda” makes sense since some calibers can go straight through a house.
Same
Right, like I'd want there to be some regulation on civilians getting .50 BMG or something.
we got stalker trilogy remastered on steam before gta 6
I’m also in the state that made the crack head gun that is the HCAR 
At the same time, I’m an advocate of “if you can afford it, get it” type.
I have enough money for a gun, but I can't afford it.
India.
Is sports shooting a thing over there?
oh boy
That's what I read...also, any imported weapons, according to this Reddit thread, have 430% tax.
https://www.rxddit.com/r/IndiaSpeaks/comments/vkxnvu/getting_a_legal_gun_in_india/?sort=old
Oh, you want a gun easy? Go to Afghanistan and just buy one of their “souvenirs” lmao.
$600 handgun becomes $2400.
Ah the average HK price then
430% tax
Freaking hell.
Wait, does India even have any domestic weapons manufacturers? They have to have a least one right?
Not with real bullets, I think; those are just pellets. Can be lethal, but I'm pretty sure they're not actual bullets.
We do. But again, weapons are only for militaries/police forces, not civilians.
look up the MR762 price tag 
I figured, but I wasn't sure and didn't want to Google it since you're right here.
Can’t even find an HK rifle for below 3000 dollars USD lmao.
They make good but expensive shit.
I mean, buckshot is technically pellets and that can kill people very easily.
Lazy. 😆
Why go searching for it when you can get the info straight from the source
Also, you hear we’ll be getting a few more HK guns in the coming years?
Yea, but actual buck-shot vs. shooting-gun pellets are vastly different things.
And besides, shooting guns only use one pellet per shot, whereas buckshot is multiple pellets.
Haven’t heard that since the HK433 thing.
Oooooh, air rifles then? My bad, I wasn't 100% sure what you meant.
You’ll finally be able to own an actual G36 and not pay other companies 10k or some shit to convert one
Is a shooting gun those things they have at the carnival
The low powered air rifles?
Oooo, that’s actually pretty dope.
Or they probs don't anymore lol the things they used to have
I won’t lie to you though: I honestly might splurge for an MR556A1 in the future lol
I’m probably still gonna stick to an AK556.
No, even regular competition shooting, I'm pretty sure it doesn't involve regular gun ammunition.
Until then I just might grab a PSA AR
Interesting.
Yea air rifles, I compete in long range shit but hang out with the air guys sometimes, it's always the Indians and the British that win
My friend had a PSA AR, it was so dry it turned into a single fire rifle lmao.
I've never seen an air rifle, but pretty much.
And if you go into sport shooting (like, the Olympic kind), the equipment (like the gun) costs hundreds of thousands of INR.
For comparison, average monthly income is $400 INR.
Also whoever decided Trijicon pricing is on smack
Yea my anny was $5500 Aus / $4000 US some guys go up to $10,000
I figured I'd save the rest for the real guns lol
I mean, the frustration of not owning a gun leads to some good focus. 😏
Well I guess the air pistol air rifle stuff your mistakes are really obvious on the target so those dudes have to practice n practice
I just reminded myself, I need some oil for my tools.
My M590 is thirsty.
590s banned in Australia but I really want one ahaha
I’m also eyeing some goodies on a surplus sight for the future
We got AR15s but it's 10 round mag limit
Mainly a Bulgarian Makarov and a big ass crate of ammo
It's somewhat easier when you make money in USD, but when you're making it in INR and spending in USD...yea...
According to this thread, a Glock 25 costs 2 million INR in 2023. That's $24,000 in today's exchange rates.
What the hell?
That's brutal, Glock 19s about $2000 in Australia which is still crazy expensive compared to US but affordablen
430% import taxes + the fact that gun licenses aren't just allowed...well, not that easily.
Guns are like an anomaly here rather than a norm (unless you're a criminal and I bet most of them don't have guns either).
2k for a god damn Glock? the HK USP is cheaper
It's the starter import fee
A CZ shadow 2 is only $2.5k so most just buy that instead
holy mother of pearl
A Glock is good, but not nearly enough for that price lmao.
I never thought I’d see the day I say an HK is cheaper lmfao
This is a BB gun, 30,000 INR ($350).
Most our autoloader rifles in Aus are HKs
The mr223s are big American guns hard to get here
Yea most either go cz75, staccato or some meme tier 1911
1911 would be good if it wasn’t a single stack.
Our law has a federal 10 round limit if you arnt shooting animals so it works out good lol
Can't you get double-stack ones (like the Para Ordnance and such)?
You seen the double barrel 1911 lmao
Don’t know, and no I have not.
Lmfao yea
It’s literally two 1911 welded together
I think I saw that too.
They did that to a 180 as well it's like 3500 rpm
Funny as shit
I’ve been wanting either a 9mm M&P shield with an integrated laser or a .45 FN.
I'll buy you both of those and you get me a victrix tormento
This was the YT video about the double-barrel 1911.
M&P Shield was the first ever handgun I shot, was great fun.
Just shot at old laundry detergent cans lmao.
That's the best way
Drilling moa gives me headaches sometimes it's better to just pop soda cans
That’s what me and dad did in our spare time, just shooting bottles, cans, and a possum that stole our cat’s food with our .22 LR.
Baha oath same
Possums are great animals though
Yeah, but this one HAD to go as it kept coming back.
your place is tick free and they can't catch rabies
They're protected here, people mostly shoot kangaroos foxes n rabbits
Or camels if your out west
Hey man, I was just told to shoot it and just did it.
Besides, I like Miss Kitty and she needed her food.
Whatever you say
I mostly shoot cardboard lol
I was a great shot, was a little kid and nailed a group of 3 at 100 yards away.
Now I gotta relearn.
.22s are crazy accurate under 150 they're great hey
I was shooting .308 at 100 yards, I graduated from .22 when I did that lmao.
It was a pretty close group so I don’t think .308 was inaccurate.
Not bad just not as good as .20s for me personally
Yea 100%
I'm on a 338 lapua ATM if I had the money I'd move to .41 XC but it's like $6 a shot
Sheesh.
For 22lr?
No, .308 win.
Oh shit nice
At least I think it was .308 as I did that a long time ago.
It felt like a .308 that’s for sure.
I gotta work on my grouping really bad, I suck rn
What rifle ya got
I hardly get to shoot anymore so I’m a tad rusty.
I'm still autistic about it lol handload me own ammo etc
Do you know your trigger weight
Can’t remember, I’ll have to find out.
Nothing at the moment, I shoot with my family friends cause at the moment I can’t legally buy a firearm, but I’m thinking of getting a shotgun or something in like 762x51 or .308 for my birthday
I know how it feels though.
Ayyy oath
I’d love to own a m110 or something like that
Yea MR762s are popular here
My dream gun that I know I will never get is an AS Val.
I find it to be the most intriguing.
Bahaha basically an automatic pistol with a truck muffler on the front
The barrel is 6 inch I think and the suppressor is like 12
Yep, I don’t know it just calls to me.
Russians make the craziest most interesting shit with firearms
Nah I get it 100%, I want that shAK12 thing they make
4 swift buckshots in the face
Or the MTT revolving shotgun lol
Don’t forget the polish, Mr maxim and his machine gun. Beautiful firearm engineering
Burers can indeed slap you back
That dude was a genius.
Lol that miniature Italian AA gun
I wonder if that's teucbically the first smg being that it was two tiny .22s welded together
You will
Reason: Bad word usage
I literally always got rid of them in 2 seconds. Maybe for burers a bit longer but still very quickly.
Are burers the upgraded poltergeists
Ehhhh…
the trogladytes right
More like what the Poltergeists want to be.
in my past life I was a burer
I'm probably that floating frog
im the first guy to die in the opium forest
Something strange happened
why the fuck does nitro perks work for me? I didn't pass any sub
Fr, check my profile and see if I have an animated avatar? Gotta make sure it's not a bug
Fair enough.
Aren't there some things you can still use even without nitro
Does effects might be it, but I forgot
The moment it runs out, your set animated avatar and back would disappear. You won't have access to cross server emojies and stickers too
Which now I can
It is known that profile effects are something you can still use, but yeah the rest are nitro only
This one is from Tommy's server
I need that bald skif sticker
XD I don't even have a payment method registered, so well? Ig it's my lucky day lmao
But I have that imaged saved from that guy's tumblr, I forgot his name
I added it hehe
wow it's Richter
Rizzler*
Okay. Looked it up and it appears that discord gave everyone a free nitro for a week to celebrate its anniversary 
Lol
I would also be a bloodsucker, but for a different reason. No I won't talk about it.
Lmao
Skif has health regeneration when at low health?
they will release on ps5 100%, its just matter of time
PS5 ain’t gonna get mod support though.
Remember FO4?
isnt trilogy getting mod support on ps5?
Well, I guess they “will” get mod support but probably dumbed down like in Fallout 4.
it wont be gamma type of mods, but something i guess
i never owned modern console, i have no idea how it works
if you can access game files directly or not
Just when im on the final game of the trilogy they release a remaster of all of them
GSC announces everything they can. they wont shadow drop S2 like this
Did anyone else get an 11GB update for Heart of Chernobyl on xbox and if so do you know what it was for?
Preload for 1.4
trilogy was announce way before release, only this EE is kinda fast announcement
you right, it might be because its an old game. i doubt they would do this for S2
but i also dont think it will take too long between announcement and release
Share sources then
you think they would promote EE for PS5, but says nothing for their latest AAA game?
are you aware no one is dropping games like this?
but you right
they will drop
they dropped 20 year old game
I doubt it is shadow dropping on may 20th.
More likely that it drops when the first major DLC comes out
not 5 month old
You show extreme confidence in a source you refuse to cite which has two options
A leaker gave you this info
Or you’re making shit up
im waiting for enchanced edition of The Long Dark should drop in the end of this month
I think your source is garbage either way
No me den ilusiones
no la policia nooo
Preload is live on Xbox, probably tomorrow in all honesty
whats gonna be in 1.4?
AI fixes and upgrades from what’s been teased
oh
No. I am just tired of hpw many times people say stuff like corpos are good since they respect the law even if the law allows them to exploit people. And that these people for example say that hacker who publish coruption are as evil as those eho publish people passwords. And other stupid stuff that they say.
Will stalker trilogy remaster be 100% complete full package like having everything and then someblile thd multiplayer?
guys for stalker legends of the zone, it just means like graphics update and achievements right?
and that applies to the 3 og games?
did an update just push?
I just had an 11.11 GB update for Xbox which curiously said "pre-download" and after doing so the game version still says the same 1.7.1134.0 as before but my game shrunk from 156.2 GB to 145 GB?
was there was an accessibility page with color correction before, is now another tab to the right of controls ?
What do you think "pre-download" means?
Just never seen that before on Xbox usually it doesn't show up till it's available or just auto-installs when it comes out if your Xbox has that enabled
AI Improvements and overall optimization. That's all I can say
You'll be able to read the patch log soon enough
Pre-download means that the patch will be live soon. The game will automatically update when the latter is public.
Just consider it as a way to save time once it's live
when are we getting multiplayer
Thankfully, it doesn't seem like you're going to be forced to use mod.io or steam workshop on pc.
later this year or next year, probably. I'd imagine they wanna iron out all the issues first before they drop mp.. Then again OG trilogy mp was jank as hell and was still fun
still tho i wanna play co-op with my friends or Multiplayer deathmatch or smth
No co-op. TDM and so such
I have it confirmed. Not sure if anyone did here but FSR 4 doesnt work with XBOX app version of the game while it works great on Steam…
what is the pre download everyone talking about
A life fix apparently
Console peasantry
Is the new patch gonna improve performance on pc?
No idea. There is nothing to he shared yet
don’t lie to me i know you have multiplayer planned
Well, my affiliation with GSC entierly bound to discord moderation. I am not part of the company, so I don't speak for it
at least outside of this server matters.
The MP is planned in fact, but no one knows when aside from devs themselves. Best guess is when they finish dealing with single player as logic says so. It is nearly impossible to pinpoint an approximate date thus far, so it's best to wait until the team shares the next Q roadmap
All patches intend to solve performance issues, so yeah.
😋 yay

update release date ? haven't checked on this game for some time
Next update could be this week
sounds promising
It's quite strange that they haven't fixed Stalker 2 yet, but they're also working on the original trilogy. They should focus all their efforts on Stalker 2 to make it a perfect game and not re-release the OG trilogy to make more money (They can do it later). And I'm not writing this as a hater, I love the Stalker series and have been playing since I was a kid, but their approach to Stalker 2 is insufficient and sad for me. Does anyone else feel the same way?
I mean we are getting patches regularly, we finally got a roadmap, and it's not always you can speed up things just by throwing more engineers on a problem. If they have some extra resources to work on a side project that can generate some extra cash - why not? and it's possible they hired contractors to do that work.
Stalker discord tags when 🙏
Discord has not added this option for our server yet, we are waiting
Yipee
S.T.A.L.K.T.U.A. THE PATCH CAME
We're eating good tonight boys.
We are eating so Good this month
Ah see
Jinx Jayko Jinx
They certainly dont forget about the trilOGy
these patch notes look fking juicy, and we are getting enhanced stalker in 5 days
and now patch for S2
bro jayko you might be my twin
i hope this one is good
Stalk tuah
"Persistent A-Life: stalkers are now living their long, happy lives, unless they meet their end in the Zone as a result of their actions outside the player's view." Let's hope this is true
Burer can now use his telekinetic abilities to catch and throw grenades
Oh for f*** sake I'm really screwed now
Here we goooooooooooooooooooooooo
happy lives? what is this? disney zone?
c-conciousness is magic
here we go boyzzz
REJOICE BROTHERSSSS
1.4 IS HERE
LESS GO
I cant wait to play stalker SoC with these new changes
We dont gave to skin anyone anymore
Surprised that this one is so small after some of the most humongous patches I've ever seen
i hope it's good, i don't play stalker 2 but let's hear the feedback from other people 
I cant wait to try it out
to celebrate, i will play A.R.E.A. (kill me now)
Did 1.4 add 2 new weapons?
Uuuhhuuuuu, yeeeaa baby, new update, it looks HUGEEE
Guess what just got an armor piercing buff today?
These are nice, lots of fixes for both Human and Mutants NPCs
"Human characters throw grenades when they want to flush out the target, not on the cooldown."
This alone is a thumbs up lol
one could even say... Massive.
Omg no more long range shotgun sniping?
Maybe they figured a way to only download the updated files and not the whole game with each update
I do wish they’d specify what changes were made to a life rather than a blanket, vague statement, but I’m not too fussed about it anyways
PLEASE tell me its all the ARs
I dont want the zubr to have higher ap than most rifles 😭
I last played on release, are all the improvements compatible with my existing save game or should I start a new game?
RPM-74
New game
@charred nova
Fixed an issue where Snork's collar wasn't counted as collected if Snork's corpse is already despawned in In The Name Of Science mission.
One f*** day after I fixed it myself after waiting 6 months, kms
lmao
Burer can now use his telekinetic abilities to catch and throw grenades - RIP
Oo endgame enemis are gonna be a nightmare
man i haven't played this since like halfway through march but that got me excited lol.
GSC dropped this crazy patch like it is nothing.
Yes it was one of best ways to kill them
Full long patchnote on our website is updating, should be ready soon
can Burer catch an RPG? 
I havent played stalker 2 in a long time, ive been letting the patches pile up, but now im torn between starting up a new playthrough for 2, or waiting to play enhanced trilogy lol
Copy that molit
They added ability for AI to use tree as cover too
I do wish this game had the proximity beep when other people are nearby
spamming saiga d12 
imagine gunslinger burers in stalker 2
i always took a cover and shoot him while his shield is off
It was teased on aprilis fools
Hey guys. I wasn’t playing Stalker 2 since end of November. Is a game way different now with all patches?
With the major update dropped just now, I guess so.
I've been playing random standalone stalker mods
S.T.A.L.K.T.U.A.: Hawk of Chernobyl
Might want to play S2 again
yes, a lot of stuff is fixed and now they adding additional small content bits
Snawk
she be streloking on my scar till i degtyarev
Spit on that anomaly
Thanks for answers
oh wow only a 14GB update? They seem to have improved how they handle them, that's much smaller than the last
only 14GB
patched nude strelok bug
no. No. NO!!!
Alright game is now unplayable see y'all later
anyone can confirm if there is still an event bubble with 1.4 or not?
She scar on my strelok till i skif
is there night vision yet?
doesn't look like it
Amen 🙏🏼
She skif on my strelok till I scar
now wait for redditors to complain how game is crashing while have 10 outdated mods installed
even if there was night vision I doubt i'd use it unless it had downsides to them
Im strloking it, im streloking it so good
ah ok
Stalk tuah
Hawk of chornobyl
i am scarring it, i am scarring it so good
She stalk on my zone till I emission
Im really curious about the performance should be better now just downloading
Im degtayreving it im degtayreving it so good
no new weapons?
Not with this one, no
Did I hear persistent A-Life actually working?😮
redditors boutta be throwing around those words like they're pokemon
I hope that is the case
How's performance?
Is it working tho?
we need to test it
S.T.A.L.K.T.U.A: Clear spit
S.T.A.L.K.T.U.A.: Shadow of that thang
S.T.A.L.K.T.U.A. 2: hawk of Chernobyl
Do all the mods need to he updated
Indeed we do. I really hope so
I'm still waiting for GFN to patch the game. 'In a few hours' it says. 
Man, might take a while for me to go through the list of fixes. Dont forget to report any bug you find.
remove all of them
Preach
trying to update and it says I don't have enough space even though I clearly do?
bro leave talktuah in 2024 🥀
don't use old mods on the new update, it won't work
Owned
It never left me so I can't ever leave it
why does this give me "she's real to me" vibes
Reason: Bad word usage
brooo, not the mods 😦
Old wolf was hotter smh
How big is the patch again? 14 gigs?
yes
Now I know the devs are f***ing with me, they're in my walls and stalking my discord messages
14GB 1 and 4, patch is 1.4 🔍
Plenty of Level Art and Level Designs improvements too but it takes around 14 gigs for the entire patch.
They're in my walls :)
lets hope I don't spawn inside a newly added barrel 
It's saying that but it's not letting me start the download, even though I have 90gb of free space
hmmm
https://www.stalker2.com/news/patch-1-4 full list of changes
dont tell me I have to reinstall the whole game...
Hopefully I can get stable 60fps now on medium
Oh glorious mol1t thabk yoy for this blessing
Persistent a life 
be duping items
Exit game
Patch happens
Spawn into an explosive cannister
Shouldn't have tried to fool the devs
mutant loot when
a worthy punishment for such a foul deed
guys, zoneslug has tested it! it's on youtube
I took her to my stash house and I skiffed it (and I skiffed it)
We arent getting any multiplayer
did they fix the flashlight being so dim yet or nah
Wdym we've always had multiplayer? Do the voices in your head not count?
I don't see it in the main patchnotes, no
You can fix this by constantly throwing grenades to light up rooms, I hope this helps
haven't had that issue yet, but i've just got it updated so I can have a look and see
They don't want to know what I did with the beads.
Is a life finally in with this patch ?
A life has technically been "in" since like 3 patches ago
its been like this since the launch, if you ever used a flashlight irl you would notice it
the ingame one is more like a phone flashlight
ah, I'm fine with how it is, I like it with a shorter range
Is it working properly now at least ? For those who tried the patch
makes interiors more interesting and tense when you can't see the whole room in front of you
I think the flashlight is a good enough, it doesn't need to be a lifted dodge truck with LEDs in my rear view mirror
so og stalker uses russian voices because they wanted to appeal to larger audiences right, but the enhanced edition is getting full ukrianian localization, but its still gonna keep all the old classic lines people yell out right?
Plus the less bright the flashlight the better the horror aspect to be honest
exactamundo
I don't need to be holding a lighthouse to see things
no one asked for that, but the ingame one is so dim, dont need to go to the extreme just because you like how it is, other people dont like it 
but by all means suggest it on their support page if you want it to be brighter
And to be fair, I keep my flashlight usage to a minimal because I don't want things seeing me to begin with
Should be an option to toggle it's brightness maybe, that would be cool
I do struggle when the flashlight only lights up the 4 feet in front of me, but yeah I guess it does add to the atmosphere
could in theory have an option in the weapon wheel, but then again if there is an option to make it brighter with no repurcussions people would just optimise it and use that anyway
Ranging from "Christmas light bulb" to "Truck tailgating you in the slow lane for the past 5 miles with his brights on and you're already going 10 over"
i did that on the website as soon as the game launched
Are you playing on console
Cuz I'm sure someone has made a mod for it on PC by now
That was fast.
yeah
hope stalker 2 will soon enough be what GSC once promised it was
Like to see the devs actually bring back the old stalker mechanics but still waiting on that health rebalance to reflect the old games health balancing
fellow tester
hes so goated for that
Gooood update. I wanna play but just woke up and gf sleeping
fake
you cannot have gf in the ward
Can I run stalker on a Pentium
Nooo... I wanted another playthrough but waited for new patch. While waiting i started reading book and when i'm bearly 1/3 through new patch drops? Now I have to read on the double... 
reading the patch notes... this looks good. not sure if im gonna give it a go now or wait for 1.5
well, Ive tried it, maybe the performance is a bit better on CPU heavy scenes (rostok, city)
Or get an audio version and listen to it while you play
also, they did fix the inventory flashing when clicking the context menu, thats a relief
think zone slug is with us in the beta tester room
The real zone slug was the friends we made along the way
they changed penetration to handling again.
but i can't find what is the difference?
Such a shame that the stash box is still a not sorting mess
the difference is penetration is no more 😂
So handling means bullet penetration? Or penetration is a hidden value?
'penetration' and 'handling' are totally different concepts. how can one replace the other?
penetration is gone it's changed to handling . meaning there is no more stat for penetration .
penetration was a little confusing stat
Hmmmm there must be a hidden stat for it still as there is ap rounds
Does anyone know if they fixed the stash items overlapping?
Fixed an issue where blueprint pop-ups appear on HUD after moving items in inventory with a specific inventory configuration. 
It made sense to me somewhat. Why would a pistol bullet penetrate as much armor as a sniper bullet
Nope only the invisible blue print bug
so they changed it because it's the bullet that penetrates, not the gun itself?
I mean, there is still differene between how good different ammo works on armour, but it is out of stats panel
kind of
Damn it, thanks for the heads up
Did the stat not have anything to do with penetration before? If it is related to how well bullets pierce armour then how is handling more accurate.
To fix confusion, what is it that the handling / penetration stat actually did?
i hope the developers make some explanation about it.
my stash is still a mess . not sorting properly items overlapping masive gaps between items
Penetration was how much damage the weapon did through armor
IE exoskeleton enemies were hard to kill, penetration helped kill faster. Damage is more of damage done to unarmored targets
Seems like something important enough to keep. Them changing the name to handling was even more confusing
Just curious did you empty out the stash and put items back in?
That's why you always use the knife to stealth kill, no need for bullets
So do both stats exist?
I cannot stealth
I assume yes, that it is instead a hidden stat and probably based on caliber instead of gun
handling is
Aiming speed
Movement speed while aiming
Weapon sway while aiming
Weapon draw speed
On my 1 million coupon loot run, I used skifs pistol to take out a pseudogiant. That wasn't very fun.
Multiple times 😅 been busy since launch stuffing it back with no results 😂
really nice new changes, i just wish the damage was more realistic and the mutants wouldnt jerk arround evading all the bullets and also the 100m load distance increase would also add alot to the gameplay.
penetration caused issues with ai and with the player, it was hard to balance with certain weapons and then certain bullets between different weapons, for simplicity sake this stat is almost outright removed and simplified, as a replacement handling is introduced to incentivize using different guns with handling instead of pen (also because 100 meter render, what u wanna pen? dont matter, most engagements are 50-70m range)
SDK ?????
not yet sir
Well shit, I know that pain lol, thanks for trying
If it can be deduced by calibre then that does work out nicely, fair enough
The SDK was supposed to come with 1.4
I have a but load of items in it will take a while before i have everything back last tim i did it took me 2 hours 🤣🤣
no, the sdk is supposed to come in beta testing for closed group first and then wider public, in Q2 not 1.4
Glad to see a fellow packrat lol
Anybody else getting a crash on the shader screen? after 1.4
Does this mean it will no longer be possible to 1 tap headshot armored enemies by using high penetration?
been a fallout player so been there done that and it never left me 😂 very loose handa everything i find comes with me 😅
Never know when you're going to need it am I right lol
yeah that gone
penetration is just not a viable stat anymore, best to think that all guns share same penetration across gun types
probably never 😂😂
with ammo still impacting the performance of a gun the most
Maybe so but better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it haha
So is A-Life actually persistent now?
I feel like the game is going to be a lot harder now with these changes. Not sure how I feel about it considering it was already difficult
yes, or better atleast
guys for stalker legends of the zone, it just means like graphics update and achievements right?
and that applies to the 3 og games?
exactly 😂😂
I wonder if 1.4 fixed emission crashes lol
no
hopefully it will be improved further
Just got a email from gsc back with the stash sorting/overlapping wil be fixed with 1.5 since they didn't had enough time to put it in 1.4 guess its a nasty bug if its been taking so long
Well better delayed than half-assed, thanks for the info
1.5 patch when?
🤓
/s
You're welcome
next week 😂😂😂
The enhanced editions are separated from the originals, you'll get them for free.
Is there a way to increase the render distance for NPC's?
oh my sweet boy, how innocent you are
not anymore since end of december, we had a solid 1 month of actual decent render distance before gsc said NO FUN ALLOWED HERE
With mods
wrong
?
ohh but it has enhanced graphics and achievements right?
render distance softcapped at 100m give or take with increase to 130m if in override mode (due to combat) @plucky pasture
I guess we need to wait for modding support
i wish while mutant eat dead bodies, body would get bloody. now it kills immersion
even better if limps would go off
That would kill fps
That would be such a cool detail
and poor lil jimmys eyes
not sure about achievements tbh
If there is a bug shoot out in a base and they all die why wouldn’t they be eating all of them
It wouldnt kill fps if its done right too, look at Dead island 2 on UE4
they only have 45 more days till the end of Q2, hopefully nothing gets delayed
Tbh I expected more by now
public release sdk HAS to be delayed at all costs
Isn’t the mod support and 2 new weapons the only other then they planned on releasing?
there is no way you release a native ue5 toolkit for closed testing for this game with this tempo AND release for public same quarter
they did specify beta public release, but yhea I agree
yes, and it's considerable
lets be realistic here its gsc guys please, not hating but yeah yaknow it do be slow
yep
Mods affecting technician prices still work?
because mutant dont eat all of them. they eat only to get full
if boar eats 20 boddies, its design issue
Multiple mutants …
in your 100m bubble it no much chance of happening
nah they dont eat untill they are full, bodies have a timer and range for smell for eating, once eaten this body cant be eaten anymore, there is no hunger mechanic for mutants like that
here is the thing, I will always hold out hope for Mod.Io being delayed
that is in my nature
again: mutants have no internal hunger meter dictating when they eat, its a node with a contextual action and that node gives off data that allows mutants to go eat.
the mutant itself does not decide when its hungry enough to eat
in comparison: humans have needs meter that when full makes them do the need, mutants have none of that
i understand this. im just trying to say body eating gore wouldnt kill to much fps. it would not go below combat fps or something like this. they definatly should try do make it more immersive and now eaten body dont look different from not-eaten.
its a bandaid fix that will come around and bite them in the a.. later when you build ontop of it
there is no visiual distinction in bodies if they are eaten, no blood on mutant to see it ate, no need for mutant do allow him to eat when he wants and can, no cue for player to know its hungry. they dont eat all on 1 body,, they dont fight for a body to eat
i just want better visuals
if i see boar eating body. i want body to be in blood, not in clean clothes
they even post a video with dog eating and this is how i imagined
real players and gamers see right through the facade being put up for us
@austere pagoda You remind me of one of the many people that explain things, but in a way that is negative.. For example, someone could bring up a really positive point about the game, and you'd be the ''but this'' person.. I feel like you are constantly typing with a chip on your shoulder
because its been 6 months and i still dont got my product as advertised
praise can be given but we should also be quick to point out changes that seem good on surface but will ahve ripple effects in long term
And that makes you a "real gamer" does it? 😂
yes mutant eating is good right? but not when its tied to body and not the need of the mutant itself no?
i mean in comparison to a working man that just wants to play for an hour
In patch 1.4 i hope npc hunting artifact .. and the sleepness system is fixed
they dont hunt for artefact, idk about sleep
some larger mutants could even play with body by throwing around to each other
ok and?
Bad
Anyone noticed that the Patch notes was Updated After Minutes and the cut the Note that offline a life was fixed?
Just getting an observation out there.. Not going to change anything ofcourse
do you need to use the criticism hamburger technique to stop people from deep depressions everytime they criticise something?
ill always give anyone praise if they do stuff right, no matter what the effects are in long term. but i also press them HARD on long term effects of implementation
its easier to implement changes than to take it away once introduced
No, it's starting to sound like you do though 😂 calm down my dude
Im not the one crying because the guy said too many "buts"
He’s stalker 2s most dedicated critic because he wants the game to be better
We outa early access yet or what?>
No
no
aight
That with offline a life was Not a joke or they changed the spelling
i wonder how they just released this. feels like poor leading. they just aa f*** it will work
Woah, they really did actually remove the whole 'Stalkers now live a happy long life" from the patch notes.... Haha!
I don’t understand why you guys just lay down and defend a product that doesn’t deserve it in the slightest
it's not "fixed", its better but has blindspots from what I understand
because they dont actually live
i have send a document to gsc explaining their implementation of a long live is a lie
thats what it is and i aint sugarcoating that one
gotta be real with us, atleast me, i aint a little kid who cant see things
Anyone tested human combat ai yet
better (not fully there yet but right direction)
Do they take cover behind trees
yes
So what happened to the weapons? Have they been rebalanced?
Yipee pew pew
Only issue I have seen is they have taken cover behind trees the size of a twig and it looks off
they really like to post cool stuff and give us half baked implementation
yes and other objects, @golden gulch not that much pen is gone, handling is in
They have become heavier, more likely to seek cover and new comments during combat
thats what they often do, shiny words but on paper its half assed (see eating) (not only gsc but all aaa companies)
I do that as well, some cover is better than no cover 😂
Would be cool if enemy npc also figured out concealment lol
Stalker in the bushes
"Persistent A-Life: stalkers are now living their long, happy lives, unless they meet their end in the Zone as a result of their actions outside the player's view."
was removed from the patch notes... I seriously want answers for this?! did they figure out last minute it didn't work???
mutant eating body was real disappointment with no visuals on body. i dont expect much from mutant loot. will have random mutant part for 300 coupos to sell and thats it
Imagine if this game had fallout gore system
6 months passed we still running with candle fleshlight on the head. they should addressed this. in the dark room any slight of light would light up everything.
just need a little distance on the flashligh
We need torches on our guns instead of headlamp
Fleshlight... lmao
Jep!
no shot
Faster to turn on and off lol
how?
hjahahaha joker_you wouldnt get it meme
will pretty much be like mutant loot mod but without dedicated trader
Oh rip mutant loot not in 1.4
I was there at the beginning, where they literally pulled it off steam and reworded the whole A-Life 2.0 thing and then claimed it was just "broken" at launch.... It's just not there lol
I mean, the mutant loot mod is just turn on functions in the game that was left out no?
that rando marketing guy amirite? what a joke no cap, played me like a fiddle gsc well done. money was send by that time so couldnt do much
Update 1.5 when?!
ahahahah
Worst thing is, I got a refund from steam after 6 hours of playtime still.. 1.3 Update came out and I was trigger happy and bought it again, only to find out it was still NOT in the game...
if i was GSC , i really would take 6months now and push real patch
its not just a turn on tho its more but its not a lot of work if done without dedicated trader
I wonder what the 2 new weapons will be
will be in year 2 edition with dlc 1
speaking of, yall want to be spoiled on first dlc?
maybe localization is a main struggle. to translate everything, prepare for release, but not actual feature implementation
VA
You seen tommyislove release review video? he shilled SO hard in the video (he got an early copy) and he was all like "The A-Life is 'CHEFS KISS' and it's amazing.. So much better than the original trilogy"... And that was the release state!!! I watch that every now and then if I want to cringe
Yah that’s just the most ironic and false statement of all time
cnpp?
At launch a life was totally busted
at launched we played mod b-life
I'm looking for a mod that resets the quest timeout and still works?
Sphere gives me PTSD till this day
The guy had literally waited half of his adult life... The game could of came out completely 100% broken and he would have hopiumed it into being incredible
Well the update came out 2 hours ago so
I have question I hope its not annoying since I could not find anything else. But where does one apply for the content maker role in this server?
send Mol1t a message with your channel
Oh I guess Ill have to add him first, his dms are not open.
Yes, I know. But I haven't found one on nexus that works with yesterday's version. Do you know of one?

No
heh weird i just message him and he aint friend of mine on discord @safe spruce
@north jackal i personally got effed by my boy "Klean" praising it and all that and later atleast admitting he was in his honeymoon phase
Welp time to load up my save and do the swamp mission
why the klean hate? genuine question?
Odd for me it says we do not share a server in common. Or that he has direct messages disabled
cus he cocky? haha
oh guess i am just PRIVILEGED bazinga
You sure you got the right Mol1t...?
Mol1t should have his dms open
There is more of them?

hes largely accredited for the Anomaly wave that is still felt to this day around the 2020s, and that stream? it was REALLY funny (terrible)
The community manager is the one I messaged haha
Since they removed penetration on the ui again, are the weapons still tiered bc of the pene hidden stat?
they gave him a special behind the scenes update to anomaly, and instead of trying to showcase it he spends all that time save spamming to try and knife a chimera to death
Yah
Far as I’m aware
Oh oki ty
And why would they hide the weapon pen
That’s literally the only stat that matters wtf
Only way to be sure is if getting penetration upgrade also increases handling stat 😂
It was handling in 1.3.1 then penetration in 1.3.2 then handling again in 1.4 lol
Will we ever get 60fps on series s
No
There is only one right? The one that has community mannager mentioned above his roles.
They also added suppressors to some stashes according to patch notes? I hope these are the SVD/SVU suppressors
So now the early weapons scale better? Or the Buket still do more damage than an AK 74S?
Early assault rifle suppressor would be good too so you don’t have to trek all the way to Yaniv anymore
Or just add the missing base game attachments to vendors in rostok
yeah i saw some hardcore ironman runs where he just save scummed on stream 
does anyone else's game not launch anymore?
Welcome to stalker 2
Try validating the game files
already did that lol
that was the first thing I did after trying to launch it 3 times
I'm on amd
time to reinstall the game
my internet is so slow today what the hell (I have gigabit ethernet)
also been hearing lots of "cant start game up" mentions
especially crashes on startup
yeah that's exactly my issue. It crashes before shaders get to compile
What gpu do you have
jup, hearing that one
it even crashes when it tries to skip shader warmup

I guess come back next week for the hot fix
Man this sucks i cant play LOTS when it releases, 1 week of unplayble stalker hurts

Define more difficult and dynamic
i am going to find the nearest Burer and throw grenades at it
I’m gonna
What else would you do
Is this dalin?😭
kiss the burer on the lips
Yah
the game feels smoother now and i deleted my ~mods folder yipee
i want my -90% technician repair cost back tho 😂
In what way is the combat more difficult and dynamic can anyone tell me?
would it be possible for the dev's to have previous builds available in the steam beta so we can continue modded games?
huh, handling really is handling stat now without penetration value mixed in. Buket S-2 has 2.9 handling and Grom S-15 2.2 handling
stalker 2? No
i love the updates, but my journey has now been put on hold for a few days (i have a day off 😦 )

