☢┃stalker-general

[hoary crest]

Where AN-94.

[lavish marlin]

Or F2000

[crystal granite]

Unless players can cheese it like half the other stuff in the game lol

[hoary crest]

Also yes

[crystal granite]

G11, add some kraut space magic

[lavish marlin]

F2000 being left out was crazy to me. That’s like one of the best endgame weapons in the older games

[inland sage]

It's too bad there aren't any really heavy weapons aside from the RPG. I'd like to see something you need an exo to use.

[sly sluice]

wdym exactly? Yes you can cheese stuff but thats up to you

[lavish marlin]

And it’s such an iconic weapon for stalker. No other game rly uses it

[hoary crest]

No SA-58 either :/

Or you know, a goddamn Mosin

[lavish marlin]

Or a deagle😭😭😭

[crystal granite]

DshK 12.7

[sly sluice]

Yes you're right. g36 should be top tier, kharod nerfed, and f2000 added as the top tier 5.56 alternative

[lavish marlin]

The left out like some of the most fun weapons from the previous entries

[crystal granite]

Kharod nerfed? Wym? I ditched it for the Dnipro long ago

[sly sluice]

Also still no using both sight on the g36

[hoary crest]

I was also surprised there wasnt a dedicated 40mm, like a Thumper or that thing with the rotating barrel, GL42 iirc?

[inland sage]

7

It's the G37 isn't it?

[sly sluice]

Im not because we never got enough ammo to use them in stalker1

[lavish marlin]

Chadrod more like. I don’t believe in nerfing weapons in a single player game. I think maybe introduce it a little later on but I don’t think it needs a nerf

[crystal granite]

Based on the 36. They're dancing around the copyrights

[hoary crest]

True enough lol, ammo is scarce in this one too

That being said, the 40mm underbarrel is absurdly cracked

[sly sluice]

I mean g36 and f2000 should be the top tier guns, kharod can be midrange, stats-wise. It's the best 5.56 gun

[lavish marlin]

man I hope this game gets the cyberpunk treatment where they add new features and content like the weapons we mentioned in free updates, instead of locking them behind a dlc

[crystal granite]

Unless you're talking RPG ammo idk man, I got thousands of rounds stashed away lol

[sly sluice]

How many granades? I think I had 7 after most of a playthrough

[lavish marlin]

Ammo was scarce until I left the lesser zone. After that I never ran out

[hoary crest]

Ammo yes, grenade shells, not so much

[inland sage]

I had maybe 240 or 250 grenades when I got to pripyat, the...RPD-5? I dropped them all on the ground next to a door I wanted open and shot one.

[crystal granite]

F2000, really? I'd rather have SIG MCX Spear as the top dog

[hoary crest]

I ended up with less than that after being a dumba*s and not realising I needed to shoot the lamp on Faust's hip the first time round, so he got the underbarrel instead, which expedited the process quite rapidly 😅

[lavish marlin]

f2000 was top dog in the earlier games

[crystal granite]

Rpg nades are criminally rare, I was on about bullets

[sly sluice]

but svd/svu is very usable not ammo starved like in previous games so thats cool. Can just use that instead of an assault rifle

[crystal granite]

Eh, not a fan of this gun. In games & irl

[lavish marlin]

lol 70+ hours into a playthrough and in endgame and I’m yet to naturally see an rpg at all. Had to spawn one in with the console cuz I thought the game was just never going to let me have one

[hoary crest]

There are a few instances in main missions where you can get an RPG and a couple outside of those if you root around a bit

[crystal granite]

There's one in the swamps. And one where you go underneath the Duga in the locked room you need a key card for. It's on the table beside a ladder you go up on

[lavish marlin]

Damn. Feel like I’ve done lots of exploration and yeah just never happened across one

[sly sluice]

f2000 and g36 are stalker1 classic top-tier guns, thats why I started to like them. They look futuristic and have a lot of features too

[hoary crest]

Get one via both instances of the Duga missions actually, also there are two sitting on barrels behind the Noon' base

[lavish marlin]

True. Those were like cutting edge zone tech back then. It would be cool if those were even like low tier end game guns, and they introduced newer types of niche and weird but cool looking guns for the best tier of end game equipment

[sly sluice]

Also because being able to use scopes was rare so coming with free scopes was a great advantage

[crystal granite]

After I got bored of reg stuff, I started hunting for top tier gear and ran about 80% of the game with Diamond, Dnipro, Texan and Gauss. Managed to anomaly jump to Pripyat

[lavish marlin]

And iron sights in the early games was ROUGH

[crystal granite]

Didn't know that. I hated Wild Island so I didn't stick round too long

[lavish marlin]

Wild island ran so bad for me I wanted to get out of there asap😭😭

[sly sluice]

You kinda really needed something with a scope to headshot, at least if you're not good at pixel-aiming like me

[lavish marlin]

I honestly regret playing hoc on launch cuz it ran SOOO bad

[hoary crest]

Im so used to iron sights after DayZ it often feels better than a sight 😅

[sly sluice]

I dont regret, it was fun, and we could sit here and discuss ways to wrok around the bugs hahhaah

[wintry pumice]

No

[lavish marlin]

My first pre order definitely wasnt the worst thing I could’ve pre ordered but I wish I waited for reviews so I could get a heads up and lower my expectations a little more

[sly sluice]

"Zalissa ha been destroyed!" Every 10 minutes

[hoary crest]

Oh yeah, that was a fun one...

[inland sage]

Oh no, Zalissya has been destroyed?

[wintry pumice]

Zalissya was still bugged for me

[hoary crest]

Rolling up to find the townsfolk and the Monolith all in the town hall having a brainwashed tea-party

[lavish marlin]

Literally. I tried to go to help Zalyssa but the doors in that one building where everyone was locked and wouldn’t open so I just left it LOL

[crystal granite]

Zelensky needed money for rockets so he told the devs to launch early

[sly sluice]

This was probably the most common bugged scenario

[hoary crest]

I mean.. Valid reasoning really 😄

[wintry pumice]

The Monolith guys got inside the town hall but couldn't get out or attack anyone there since it was a safe space
It was funny watching run around unable to do anything

[lavish marlin]

That’s what I’ve heard. Was pretty bummed cuz zalyssa was one of the only settlements that didn’t run too bad for me at that time

[sly sluice]

I too require additional rockets

[wintry pumice]

Sus

[lavish marlin]

Cuz I was NOT going anywhere near Rostok and I still don’t go near it to this day

[hoary crest]

Best I can do is three fireworks and a half-empty lighter 😄

[crystal granite]

Does not compute, does not compute 🤖

[lavish marlin]

Rostok is still unplayable sometimes

[sly sluice]

Half empty??? That's plenty for me

[hoary crest]

😄

[sly sluice]

There's something very slow about the NPCs routines and I think it's mostly overloading the memory bus more than single core (obviously its not multicore)

[crystal granite]

Queue the Top Gear "I think it's a dud" ICBM and lighter meme

[crystal granite]

They're on weed half the time, course they're slow 😂

[lavish marlin]

I don’t even understand that though because I feel like the npcs don’t even have routines. They all sit in the same place or stand guard from what I’ve seen

[sly sluice]

Lmao yeah but they dont need to make my framerate slow

[crystal granite]

Remember, for Freedom its not your framerates, they're our framerates

[lavish marlin]

It’s like less than TES: Oblivion levels of npc routine but it bogs down so much more memory

[sly sluice]

Yes. But because every area with a lot of NPCs (yes rostok worst) cuts my framerate in half, I think they have some kind of routine running in the programming sense, maybe checking for enemies

[lavish marlin]

Could be. I don’t know anything about game development but I have a feeling that whatever they have going on there is not optimal at all

[hoary crest]

Makes sense for the ones on the edges of the base, but I don't think I've seen those get pushed by an enemy more than once

[lavish marlin]

Rostok and slag heap are worst offenders

[inland sage]

What about Pripyat and all the monolithians?

[lavish marlin]

I avoid those two entirely even if there’s an emission happening. They’re so generous with the emission grace period I can usually find a brick house in time

[sly sluice]

It certainly is not optimal but it could be because the engine doesn't support what they need to do properly, so they have a script running for each NPC, and this will overwhelm cache and memory bus when there's 50+ NPCs

[hoary crest]

I mean you can kill those ones and limit thier impact 😄

I suppose you could probably do the same to the various faction bases, but I havent tried thus far

[sly sluice]

I never made a game like this at all but I did programming and optimization in other scenarios

[lavish marlin]

Yeah. I still don’t understand how you can be in combat with like 25+ enemies that are all moving around and taking cover and it runs fine, but the second you go to a calmer area with idle npcs the game sh*ts the bed

[sly sluice]

I have a 5900x, so I know CPU performance is good. I know GPU doesn't matter because 4k doesn't affect the framerate. But my memory is pretty slow because I have 64gb in 4 sticks

[hoary crest]

Sh*t my memory is slow due to a misspent youth 😄

[inland sage]

When I was in Sirca in my last game I had to stop and just look because there was a dude and he just kept triggering subtitle (flails around)

[lavish marlin]

I have a ryzen 9 5600x with a 4060ti and 64 in 2 sticks. Definitely not the best processor or graphics card but it gets the job done pretty well otherwise

Still was disappointing that the game couldn’t stay stable for more than an hour at launch

[inland sage]

I'm running an Nvidia GEForce RTX 2070 and it works just fine

[sly sluice]

It was playable for me for like. 6-12ish hours before it made my PC crash totally. I think still like that but only in fullscreen

[lavish marlin]

Wait nvm I have a 5900

[weary hedge]

when patch?

[lavish marlin]

I overexagerrated I was able to run it for a long time. But the game was never consistent

[sly sluice]

Nice. Because I have 4 sticks of ram, I have to run them at a lower frequency, which is fine for video editing and AI... But no one has a good framerate in rostok anyway

[lavish marlin]

Does that mean your frame gen would actually work better for you then?

If it’s better for AI

[sly sluice]

Oh no don't think so. I mean AI like language and image generation models

[lavish marlin]

Oh gotcha

[hoary crest]

I thought framegen was like "AI" rather than AI if you get what i mean

[lavish marlin]

I don’t get what you mean

[sly sluice]

yeah it's quite "AI"

[lavish marlin]

I thought AI was AI tbh

[hoary crest]

Its got the AI label, but is just a program that reads the frame data as opposed to any sort of actual complex algorithm

[weary hedge]

wasn't patch today

[hoary crest]

Couple days ago

[lavish marlin]

Ohh gotcha. I’m not knowledgable on that kind of stuff. I always just thought if the machine does the thinking it’s AI if that makes sense

[inland sage]

Ooh, and it says it fixed memory leak at 'Rostok location'

[lavish marlin]

It’s a lie

[inland sage]

I never saw any memory leak on my machine anyways lol

[hoary crest]

Nah its understandable, companies like to chuck "AI" on everything nowdays, regardless of if it actually has anything to do with it. Its often marketing schpiel

[weary hedge]

man, id want to refund the game but idk if i can, what are the policies for refunding a game in xbox?

[lavish marlin]

why u asking me bruh I don’t have an Xbox

[inland sage]

Have you googled it yet?

Usually the first thing to do is...google it.

[weary hedge]

im not an all Googler, i ask because i want to see if people have knowledge ab it

[lavish marlin]

I always thought consoles don’t have refund policies

[hoary crest]

No idea about Xbox, but Steam gives you a 2H use-window, if you've played less than that, they'll give you back your money

[sly sluice]

AI is a very vague concept, you can say the handwriting recognition on phones in 2007 was AI, or voice recognition in 2015, or phone keyboard prediction around 2015 too

[lavish marlin]

To my knowledge steam is like the only platform that lets you refund no questions asked. As long as you don’t have 2 hours or a long ownership

2 weeks I think

[hoary crest]

Predictive text on phones was despised by many when it first arose 😂

[lavish marlin]

Ong steam/valve/gaben be ruining cs2 but they got the best refund policy

[hoary crest]

Constantly correcting any slang or cursing in texts and generating incomprehensible gibberish as a result 😂 Many a drunken chat was made difficult by that accursed thing

[novel quarry]

you could do that back in the day for skyrim

[sly sluice]

Phone keyboard prediction and chatGPT arent very different really

[hoary crest]

You could also access the files themselves on old consoles, modern ones are locked up much tighter

[novel quarry]

ah. that sucks ass. consoles suck lol

[sly sluice]

Ok valve were leading in adding lootboxes, skins/microtransactions and stopping making their beloved single played games
use GoG!

[lavish marlin]

Yeah for new consoles don’t you need like a dev kit to actually get into them?

[novel quarry]

thats so stupid tbh

[lavish marlin]

Then they decided to cook with half life Alyx and never look back

[hoary crest]

Gaben got the greedy

[novel quarry]

I guess PC stays winning (for people who can afford it...anyway, it is pricey these days

[lavish marlin]

Ehh idk about that tbh

[sly sluice]

yeah not that pricy
Assuming you will buy games for the console

[novel quarry]

its pricer than it was a decade ago

[lavish marlin]

At least on console your ensured smooth 60fps. console ports and pc games aren’t rly optimized for pc anymore

[novel quarry]

yeah if you play enough games pc is prob cheaper.

[sly sluice]

Youre ensured 25-30fps

[lavish marlin]

30-60 depending on the game

[hoary crest]

I wouldnt be surprised if consoles dont last more than another couple of generations, a PC is just so much more capable and serves more uses than just playing games, and everyone needs a computer in this day an age so might aswell get one that replaces the need for an expensive brick

[novel quarry]

30 fps is so bad for this day and age

[lavish marlin]

Agreed. Seems like the trends in development seem to favor console tho. In terms of simplifying things for a controller

[novel quarry]

game company: 'well its a single player fps, you dont really need 60'

[crystal granite]

It's an open world game. How do people, in their 70+ hour playthroughs, DON'T unlock the whole map? 0.08% is crazy #📸┃screens_and_videos message

[worthy ore]

pc has a bunch of places where u can buy steam keys too like cdkeys etc. PC gaming is way superior to console coming from someone thats got both lol.

console games barely have good sales compared to pc

[hoary crest]

Currently they still have a large market share, but thats not to say it'll last forever, so they still sort of have to build for the things to reach thier profit margins

[sly sluice]

For MS and sony its just the HP printer model. Sell someone a locked down PC cheaper and make money through games and subscription (ink) and it might last a while

[novel quarry]

ngl I prefer controllers for anything thats not like professional level fps

Just way comfier for me. prob hard for someone to enjoy using them on fps if they didnt grow up on it tho.

[hoary crest]

The HP printer model 😂 Goddamn lmfao, its true though

[lavish marlin]

That’s cuz almost everything but comp shooters are designed for controllers

[sly sluice]

But the sad thing is then they gotta ban using mouse and keyboard from their consoles, so people dont get owned in multiplayed games

[lavish marlin]

That’s why a game like ghost of Tsushima or a souls like is miserable to play mnk

[quartz anvil]

you know whats worse? motion blur x.x

[novel quarry]

nah. I just think mice are not as comfy physically (for me)

[novel quarry]

puke

[sly sluice]

If I wasnt doing compute with my GPU I could see the point of just getting a good CPU and ram for my PC since they're not overpriced like nvidia GPUs and spending the extra money for a console, if I could use keyboard and mouse

[novel quarry]

people just cheat to get around it. less of a shit show than hackers which have ruined a lot of pc games tho.

[hoary crest]

Its a damned if you do, damned if you dont scenario that one.. Either you let mouse players in and give controller users what amounts to a cheap aimbot, if you do, controller users own the field, if you don't, mouse players do, or you don't let the two peripherals play in the same setting. Either way one group is getting slapped around by the other

[lavish marlin]

I think it can go both ways. You can’t really deny that most single player games aren’t designed for controllers. Stalker 2 literally was. Then there’s soulsbornes and Ubisoft RPGs. There isn’t really any comp shooter that’s been designed with controller in mind

[novel quarry]

I agree completely, I'm just saying even outside that I would prefer controller is all. 👍🏻

[lavish marlin]

Honestly as a long time but recently quit rainbow six siege player, what they are doing to handle mnk on console is pretty smart. When you get detected using mnk they send you to pc lobbies

[lavish marlin]

That’s completely valid dude. I prefer controller for a lot of games too, I’m in the same boat as you.

[frigid hill]

sqepticism has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[novel quarry]

but yeah stalker 2 on pc even has the god awful quick access crap

the hold f1 and f2 instead of just pressing f3 and f4. just god awful

[sly sluice]

Yeah thats what i said earlier. The weapon wheel shoulnt be on PC and there should be a keybing for underbarrel

[hoary crest]

That makes sense to do yeah. I would argue that allowing the two in the same lobby but giving pad users a skill-less budget aimbot is scummy though when it does happen. One side has to actually work for thier kills, the other just looks vaguely in the direction of another player and comes out on top. The two should never be in the same lobby

[novel quarry]

I had to use keyboard keybinds to get f3 and f4 krys back lmao.

[lavish marlin]

Yeah it’s pretty disappointing how much the dumbed everything down for console players sake. Don’t get me wrong I don’t want arma levels of keybinds but yeah I get what ur saying

[novel quarry]

lazy porting with no thought put into it yeah.

[sly sluice]

Underbarrel is needed OR they can stop it switching away all the time

[hoary crest]

There sort of is, if you hold down V or N (I forget which) it will swap to the underbarrel without needing to use the wheel, but you cannot rebind it

[lavish marlin]

I completely agree. I think using mnk against controller counts as cheater and should be banable. But I also think what they’re doing is good too.

[sly sluice]

omg youre right

[lavish marlin]

They tried making it banable but their anti cheat sucks so this is the next best thing

[novel quarry]

and then stalker 2 has like stupid danger indicator and crap for uber casual audience. at least you can disable some of it but it shouldnt be on by default

[hoary crest]

IF the pad players don't have the aggressive aim assist, I agree yeah, but if they do, then its the other way around. Its a sh*t situation

[sly sluice]

Holding down ammo change key changes to underbarrel

[inland sage]

Danger indicator, you mean the red glow on the compass?

[lavish marlin]

Stalker 2 reminded me a lot of farcry sometimes and that really disappointed me

[hoary crest]

Yee, but as I mentioned, you cannot rebind it, which is quite annoying. You can rebind the ammo swap key, but it wont effect the underbarrel swap

[novel quarry]

i always turned off aim assist when I played bf on console because it just made me miss lol

[lavish marlin]

Console players don’t have any aim assist on siege. They have lesser gun recoil but that’s it. Another reason mnk should be considered cheating

[sly sluice]

Well thats a good tip I needed 100 hours ago

[weary hedge]

Nvm, if you play the game even for 2 secs the refund req will be unvalid

[sly sluice]

Its better than tab-c but im kind of in a hurry when mutants attack me

[novel quarry]

i saw a guy had to refund because he was left handed and couldnt rebind something. ridiculous to see in a 2024 release

[worthy ore]

steam gives 2 hrs

[lavish marlin]

Yeah that was super annoying. I cannot fathom how they thought it was more productive to merge underbarrel and ammo swap to the same key. It’s so simple.. just have two separate keybind options

[weary hedge]

no sheet, i replied to that

[worthy ore]

hold my nuts and spell right

[hoary crest]

Honestly i think its just an oversight that the rebind doesnt effect the underbarrel swap but yeah thats kinda a*s for lefties

[weary hedge]

r i g h t

[novel quarry]

yeah just straight up ported from console build

[lavish marlin]

As a lefty it is a*s LOL

[hoary crest]

At least it makes it usable on demand

[sly sluice]

Yep not rocket science but at least now I know it

[crystal granite]

On console, we got underbarrel as down on the d pad, and ammo swap is X. Idk why PC ain't got this stuff right

[sly sluice]

So many times tried to do tab-c quickly with no luck

[lavish marlin]

That’s crazy to me

[hoary crest]

The weapon wheel is hella unresponsive anyway

[sly sluice]

Fairly its all because of the underbarrel shotty, for granades its fine to be slow

[lavish marlin]

Same. Screwed me up a lot of times. The weapon wheel realllly sucks

[hoary crest]

When does a weapon wheel not suck, give me one example, I'll wait 😂

[lavish marlin]

I think it worked okay in doom eternal

[hoary crest]

Alright, one example which isnt done by ID software 😂

[lavish marlin]

LOL I can’t do that much

[hoary crest]

🤣

[weary hedge]

guys how do i enjoy this game on xbox? even if i played and completed Stalker SoC, this game feels totally like farcry 5,im not a hater, but the unoptimized aim, and the Npcs that tell u to go there and here and there everytime is totally a farcry 5 feel

[lavish marlin]

LOL it does feel like a far cry game

[novel quarry]

yeah I never even bothered trying to use it

[lavish marlin]

Was my first thought when I saw the stupid enemy noticed you bracket below the compass

[weary hedge]

lmao

[hoary crest]

You buy a PC 😄

[sly sluice]

marked one, what the h3ll

[weary hedge]

help

[inland sage]

Is the enemy noticed you bracket not in earlier games as well?

[novel quarry]

I do use the quick access wheel mod for stalker anomaly to do stuff like drink water without opening inventory but for combat other than switching magazines I dont use a wheel

[lavish marlin]

do we know if there’s a mod that fixes pc sensitivity? I think it’s another issue that’s left over from the console bias

[novel quarry]

wheels with a mouse kind of just suck I think

[lavish marlin]

The vertical and horizontal sens being different

[novel quarry]

yeah on nexus there is one

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/57

[hoary crest]

Tbh i thought they adressed that in a patch, though I messed with mouse settings via Ini

[lavish marlin]

Shi I should check that out. I have really good aim in shooters but I found it SO HARD to aim in this game because of that

[novel quarry]

god awful on a mouse

[novel quarry]

ah right I think they might have

[weary hedge]

SAME

[lavish marlin]

I’m doing my first ever Skyrim playthrough rn and it was really hard to get past that sensitivity difference

[novel quarry]

they fixed the input delay setting but not sure about x y setting

[lavish marlin]

Input delay was never that much of an issue for me at least. X Y tho is just crazy. Such a basic feature that even something like cod lets you change

[hoary crest]

Input delay is a result of framegen, until that tech is improved, its always gonna be present (If you use it)

[inland sage]

Mouse sensitivity issues sounds like you should adjust your settings to me. Either in game or in your PC settings.

[lavish marlin]

The issue is the game has different vertical and horizontal sensitivity on pc

[inland sage]

So which...building in game is the reactor building that exploded?

[lavish marlin]

Like the CNPP?

[sly sluice]

The sacophagus

[lavish marlin]

You can’t even access it in the game lol

[hoary crest]

Not yet anyway

[lavish marlin]

Yeah. I mean you can access it with mods but you aren’t supposed to

[hoary crest]

If it doesnt end up added in DLC I'll eat my shoes

[lavish marlin]

I feel like it’s such an integral part of the series I just hope they add it in a huge 2.0 patch or something

I compare this game to cyberpunk a lot because of the rocky launch and I think if devs treat the game how cdpr treats cp77 then all will be good in the world

[hoary crest]

I get the sense the dev team care a lot more about this project than CDPR did about 2077

[lavish marlin]

Idk they really poured their hearts and passion into that game. CP77 is a masterpiece the way it is. Still underdelivered on what was promised but it’s a spectacular experience the way it is now

[serene barn]

i wonder if they're actually going to do anything in terms of locations etc at all that is not simply the 2 DLCs that was promised to those who got one of those more expensive editions

[hoary crest]

At least in my eyes, CDPR only did the work they did on Cyberpunk because of how irreperably damaged thier reputation was. You can see with even what we have now in HoC that this is a passion project as much as it was a money maker

[lavish marlin]

You’re right too. Just hope they don’t lock things that should’ve been in the game from launch behind a paywall. Like a full map with all the landmarks and the series iconic weapons

[sly sluice]

Stalker2 is buggy but I think overall good

Cyberpunk had foundational problems imo, that will never be fixed

[inland sage]

I do wonder why they made Cyberpunk. It's kind of a departure from their usual games?

[lavish marlin]

Like I’d be disappointed if the f2000 was a dlc weapon because that’s not even a creative choice. It’s just reusing old content from the other games and introducing it as something new

[inland sage]

The best way to do it would be to add them along with the DLC but don't make the guns being in the game dependent on having the DLC.

[lavish marlin]

I wouldnt say it’s a far departure. I really don’t think the Witcher 3 is a deep and rich rpg anymore than cp77 is honestly its just a different type of world and perspective

[sly sluice]

Being forced to have jhonny, teasing all game of getting rid of him, then in the end "Hehe you removed him then you died rip" and not letting you play the game without him sucks

[inland sage]

It's two entirely different things. One is high fantasy and the other is a sci-fi dystopia.

[hoary crest]

Yeah that would be a shame not gonna lie, but at the end of the day it might have to be the case to be financially viable, its a hard one to call. Though it did do very well, so I would imagine they're funnelling a lot of money back into the game.

I also wouldn't be shocked if they were funding their side in the war via donations too, so yeah.. if stuff ends up behind a paywall, I won't bellyache about it none

[sly sluice]

They marketed CP as a open RPG, not like witcher though.

[lavish marlin]

Totally

[lavish marlin]

Yeah but you could make the same argument for Skyrim and fallout. Two completely separate types of worlds but the same type of game

Similar dialogue trees and branching questions

[sly sluice]

Though it did do very well
These days this just depends on pre-release marketing. The damage of a bad game comes for the next game

[inland sage]

Yeah but Bethesda has been making Skyrim for decades

[hoary crest]

Speaking of, Thanks for reminding me to finish installing 3/NV so I can play through TTW 😂

[inland sage]

And releasing it over and over

[lavish marlin]

TTW on top

[hoary crest]

This is true yeah, reputation means a whole lot in this industry

[sly sluice]

They made all the sales before there was any reviews or anyone played it. Good trailers.
But then if it's bad, trust is broken for the next entry.

[lavish marlin]

My point is that TES and Fallout games aren’t so different, much as cyberpunk and Witcher isn’t

[inland sage]

There's also that...reliance on the celebrity characters for marketing cyberpunk

[sly sluice]

And they know trust is broken, so they wont try to make another good one (In bad cases like FO)

[hoary crest]

I certainly wont be buying the next Witcher game until I see reviews after the honeymoon period is over 😂

[inland sage]

Keanu Reeves, Idris Elba. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I gotta do the thing now.

[lavish marlin]

Cyberpunk was announced and VERYYYY hyped for like 5 years before anyone knew Keanu would be apart of it

[sly sluice]

Yeah it's cringe. I like him, but I dont want to have a forced companion all game, that was my biggest gripe

[inland sage]

By do the thing I mean pre-purchase KCD2 while I have time.

[lavish marlin]

I don’t think they relied on celebrity characters at all. Cyberpunk was a massive hype train the whole way through

[hoary crest]

Didnt Oblivion have Sir Patrick Stewart in it for all of about ten minutes before they killed him off? 😂

[lavish marlin]

Also doing that

[sly sluice]

I think for stalker and kcd its worth even if the money is wasted

[inland sage]

Man I'm hype as hell, HENRY IS COMING TO SEE US AGAIN

[lavish marlin]

Good studios

Jesus Christ be praised!🇭🇺

[sly sluice]

Things for my chinese girls cost more anyway

[sly sluice]

Jesus christ be praised, how can i be of assistance good knight?

[lavish marlin]

I’m starting to feel quite hungry🤤

[serene barn]

i am having a hard time thinking they'll add in like actual new things to the game for free but it feels kinda unfinished in a way.

[lavish marlin]

The game is very unfinished. It’s missing features from even the first game lol

[inland sage]

Man Steam is fast with the confirmation email when you buy a game.

[wintry pumice]

[serene barn]

does it if i say you cannot say anything related to A-Life? lol what else did they have 2 doesn't?

[hoary crest]

Sosig

[sly sluice]

A lot less features removed than average 2024 game imo.

[inland sage]

An error occurred while installing Kingdom Come Deliverance 2: "Game not released"

[sly sluice]

Wha? What did i do?

[wintry pumice]

Henry hasn't come yet

[hoary crest]

😏

[sly sluice]

Im saying its not early 20o0s anymore, games r3move fea3tures, not add them

[wintry pumice]

[lavish marlin]

Well considering A life was the foundation for keeping and making the zone feel so immersive and live in the first place, I don’t think you can’t mention it. But there are other things. Mutant looting, actual faction reputations, PDA messages, paid followers

[quartz anvil]

dont you hate it when it failed to install and says "content locked"? god i hate it when that happeneds

[inland sage]

Well the game releases in 3 days

[lavish marlin]

2 is an overall simplified version of old stalker games. No hate because I still really enjoy it but you can’t really deny that

[serene barn]

er followers was not a thing in the trilogy so that one doesn't fly

[quartz anvil]

it happeneds to me even when a game is released years ago

[sly sluice]

Alife was pretty bad in vanilla too

[serene barn]

and idk what you mean with PDA messages

[lavish marlin]

It was though. Multiple points in the games have an npc following you either as a companion or as a guide

[lavish marlin]

stalkers messaging that they found some poor bast*rd in a ditch or they found this guys stash, or that they heard gunfire nearby

[serene barn]

as part of specific missions where you needed to escort them lol. paying someone to follow you around was not a thing.

[lavish marlin]

Did you even play the original games?

[quartz anvil]

that is from mods not the orginal games the only one that sounds like that is clearsky

[inland sage]

It's been a while. What is in them that isn't in this one? Mutant looting, I know.

[lavish marlin]

What? That is in the first game.. you just sometimes get messages from random stalkers

[serene barn]

i did play the original games, SoC 2 times, CS 2 times and CoP once. they didn't have anything like notes on them. you only ever got stash locations added to your map.

[lavish marlin]

I must’ve played too much anomaly then. My bad

[inland sage]

Yeah no uhhhhh, I definitely don't remember random messages on any messaging thing
LOL

[lavish marlin]

HOC is still a dumbed down version of the original games tho. The fact A life isn’t or is barely existent is enough proof of that

[inland sage]

Okay and who is the primary A life coder, and what are they currently doing?

[quartz anvil]

the first game never had that, that was added in by mods unless you mean when you find a dead stalker and find his stash on him and it has a description on what happened to him to leave that stash there

[serene barn]

closest was like getting a message about someone being attacked but like it was scripted to happen every time you got close enough for it.

there was no random Stalker dms popping in on your PDA in the original games.

[sly sluice]

Lets get into trouble

[lavish marlin]

Should’ve been implemented on launch🤷🏻‍♂️ am I in the wrong for wanted a completed game for $70?

[serene barn]

absolutely not

[sly sluice]

Wait look im purple

[hoary crest]

Welcome to the Veteran club

Now you can lord it over all the rookies 😄

[lavish marlin]

Am I in the wrong for wanting more expanded features? It’s not like anomaly treads into impossible or unimaginable territory with the features it adds. Stalker 2 could’ve literally been anomaly and I think most people would be happy

[serene barn]

it should have been there. they have been unfunnily behind on almost everything in Stalker 2, just look at how the AI is compared to the old games and how A-Life didn't work at all at first and had to be bandaid fixed by making groups of mutants and stalkers materilize randomly.

[lavish marlin]

I wouldn’t even call it bandaided. I honestly would’ve preferred a more dead zone instead of materializing gunfights out of nowhere

[sly sluice]

it wasnt like anomaly war mode exactly in vanilla ever

[serene barn]

even things like how they made a very very well known gun that always uses x54R ammo, all of a suddenly use an ammo it has never been chambered for irl iirc just because they didn't get the RPD working or maybe the RPD is just a DLC gun but it still feels really bad how they made the RPM-74 take x39 instead despite it clearly not being meant to

[lavish marlin]

Wasn’t ever as bad as HOC either though

[hoary crest]

Its a PKM, but yeah, wrong caliber

[serene barn]

"dumbing" it down has made more people interested in the game as they can play it casually if they wanted to. it just reaches a broader playerbase

[lavish marlin]

If they want to play a more causal stalker game they can go play metro😭😭😭

[serene barn]

they call it the RPM in the game so, but idk if it is a PKM or a PKP

[lavish marlin]

Those games are made for console anyways. You shouldn’t sacrifice core features from your game to appeal to a larger audience, while pissing off the people who kept your series alive for 15 years

[serene barn]

Metro and Stalker feel nothing alike lmao. it would not be the same experience.

[lavish marlin]

Keyword is casual though. They are nothing alike. Stalker has never been a casual game. Metro was more of a casual game from the start

[serene barn]

no Stalker has never been casual but there is a big fat gap between what it was to what Anomaly or whatever did to the game.

[inland sage]

Misery

[serene barn]

there is so much more things to consider in those big mod packs

[sly sluice]

Yes, econ and stuff was never super hard

[lavish marlin]

Anomaly just expanded on stalkers core things. It’s not like gamma. Anomaly literally feels vanilla. Where HOC just feels half baked when compared to what could have been

[sly sluice]

So many people played so much modded (Like anomaly, gamma) that is tilts peoples expectations I think

[serene barn]

i wouldn't wanna need to see if every single part of my gun is at usable when i play Stalker. that just sounds like too much of a hassle and i feel that sort of thing should stay in the modded parts and not the core game.

[inland sage]

Leave that gun checking to Skif

[lavish marlin]

I think gamma is way too much. Anomaly is the perfect balance of that kind of gameplay.

It’s not casual, but it’s fun because of that. Stalker 2 isn’t nearly as immersive or expansive as the fan made modpack that’s like 5 years old

[sly sluice]

Personally, I think gamma ruins the economy part where money is valuable, but they all collectively did amazing work

[lavish marlin]

Bigger open world maybe but that isn’t always a good thing

[lavish marlin]

Gamma is a technical wonder. I’m not a fan of it but it’s a completely different game

[sly sluice]

I wish they had a version with normal-ish stalker economy, but finding which mods you can remove without it breaking was too much for me

[lavish marlin]

Gamma reminds me of tarkov in the way you can play it for hours and not have fun LOL

[hoary crest]

Tsk, thats dangerously close to heresy

[inland sage]

I remember playing Misery and it being a struggle to survive right from the start, lol

[serene barn]

when it comes to economy i feel like the credits make a little more sense

[sly sluice]

Omg misery, yes I played it too. Thats way before though

[inland sage]

That flesh will mess you up

[serene barn]

er coupons. only worth anything in the zone

[sly sluice]

Back then, we had like 10x less players and a lot less modding capability

[lavish marlin]

Yeah yeah probably. Look I really enjoy a hardcore experience but anomaly was a little much

[inland sage]

That plus they're electronic too, though I do wish I could take a dead dude's PDA and steal their koupons.

[hoary crest]

What do you mean you don't like a stilletto being shoved into your b*llsack every couple of seconds? 😄

[inland sage]

Even if it's not a lot, it would be interesting.

[lavish marlin]

Or having a heart attack when I get to close to a psi anomaly

[sly sluice]

Remember when the first oblivion lost came out? That was so awesome

[frigid hill]

mr.skeltal has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[serene barn]

there is things from the OG trilogy i would have liked to see in 2 but that didn't happen for some reason.

[inland sage]

Dying instantly to a cardboard box thrown into your head at mach curseword by an invisible dude in an entirely different room.

[serene barn]

mutant parts should have been a thing because it feels bad when you gotta deal with them for no reason and it's just a loss of profit every single time you deal with mutants.

[lavish marlin]

Fr the player character in gamma is lowkey a pathetic whelp

[inland sage]

I kind of like that, because there should be things in the zone that are just bleak and unhappy and don't also give you money.

[serene barn]

idk because it gets really annoying when you have to go pay to repair gear that you didn't even use in the fight

[hoary crest]

M O D S

[grand path]

Hi all. How can I see my reputation to the other factions?

[river iron]

Добрий вечір, маю питання, як можна установити патч на stalker the legend trilogy, на Xbox, не можу нігде знайти, та ні приходити автоматично. Не можу пройти лабу х-18, ні заруховивается задача, і ні можу грати далі.
Дуже потрібна допомога 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻😭😭😭

[cobalt fiber]

https://discord.com/channels/504587323577729024/1308746619239272540

Цей канал англомовний, для українською використовуйте посилання.

[river iron]

Дякую, вже надіслал питання, до того чату, який ви написали

[maiden grotto]

Shouldn't be down to mods though.

Lets see what the update brings us.

[sly sluice]

Whos more hungry henry or skiffu

[inland sage]

Skif

He's willing to eat Tourist's Breakfast.

[sly sluice]

Technically correct with 10 cans of cat food per day but he never says hes quite hungry

[inland sage]

WYM 10? My SKif eats more than that by far.

I eat cans just because, to lighten my inventory.

[sly sluice]

Sure yes it can be a lot more, even from his hunger lvl

[inland sage]

I don't really eat that often in KCD

[sly sluice]

Yeah about 2-3 times ish per day in kcd yk like... a normal person...

[plain fiber]

I'll take this opportunity to remind people that Anomaly and GAMMA would not exist without Misery and CoC specifically.

(Also the myriad of mods that make up GAMMA.)

[sly sluice]

omg groza really is like playing aisoft but with cheaters

[plain fiber]

Did you find the unique one chambered in 5.45?

Also, I'm pretty sure it's actually a sin that we can put an ACOG on the GROZA but not a PSO.

[sly sluice]

No just using it because its one of the weapons I havent used much (upgraded)

[sly sluice]

Very correct

[plain fiber]

*Slavic anger noises*

[inland sage]

You didn't know? Stalker is just a huge LARP in the Zone.

[sly sluice]

(Sips my vodka and mutters)

[plain fiber]

I know for a fact that there are S.T.A.L.K.E.R. themed airsoft matches.

[sly sluice]

That's kinda hot

[plain fiber]

Uh...

[sly sluice]

hahahaha

[inland sage]

...what faction is renegades actually

[sly sluice]

just a bunch of losers that got to be earlygame enemy

[inland sage]

Wait, like. The dudes who try to kill you just past the first scanner spot in the tutorial part of the game?

[sly sluice]

I have been in such larps, not exactly stalker, but similar kind of lore, in abandoned mining area it was awesome

[sly sluice]

Renegade was just the earlygame bandits in clear sky. Didnt need a faction at all

[plain fiber]

I feel like you need to have at least one dude screaming a Slavic/Eastern European language or the magic is lost.

[sly sluice]

A big piece of the building fell down
I'd guesstimate a 500kg ish piece

[inland sage]

It's been forever since I played Clear Sky

[plain fiber]

Nice to know they were going for authenticity.

[sly sluice]

Well it was just a real abandoned mine, military used it as a training area then stopped then we were playing airsoft larp there

[plain fiber]

I remember reading somewhere that Renegades were made up of people who had been kicked out of other factions for being too scummy or something.

No idea if that's actually canon or not.

[inland sage]

I was going to run through the first 3 games before I played 2 but then I went up a ladder in SOC and got burst to death by a dude with an AK-74U so I just installed 2.

[sly sluice]

It was nice because I found a ammo box to take home hahaha

[inland sage]

By burst to death I mean killed before I could actually bring my weapon up to deal with him

[plain fiber]

What country are you in just out of curiousity?

[sly sluice]

Sweden. I was in the faction that was supposed to have digital urban digital ammo and g36 rifles, a kind of government remnant

[plain fiber]

Ah.

I'm not sure if we have any airsoft grounds like that in the US.

Y'all in Europe generally seem to have way better places to play airsoft.

[sly sluice]

There was paid actors as zombies. I feel sorry for them in hindsight

[plain fiber]

They all tried going after one guy only to find out he was the one who brought a minigun.

[inland sage]

LOL
So they got paid to just wander around groaning?

[shell flax]

Ballahack in Chesapeake Virginia, it’s like 100 acres

[sly sluice]

Well no, to chase us

[plain fiber]

Ooooh! Thanks for this!

[hoary crest]

🤷‍♂️ it is what it is

[sly sluice]

Maybe, but im sure there's plenty of abandoned factory type areas too
But in sweden we have a lot of old mines so that just kind of makes sense.

[inland sage]

West Virginia, mountain mama?
Take me home, COUNTRY ROADS?

[plain fiber]

Oh we definitely have those, especially where I live. (I'm in Upstate New York, a majority of which lies within the Rust Belt.)

[sly sluice]

It certainly looks and feels post-apocalyptic

[inland sage]

What about the old Minuteman sites? Or are those still in use?

[sly sluice]

We did sleep "in game" for the larp and everything, and I got kinda randomly assassinated with poison injection when someone snuck up on me and I didnt notice

[plain fiber]

Depends on where you are up here tbh. I remember going to a retreat in the Catskills and one of the towns I drove through literally looked like Silent Hill.

[sly sluice]

I think they closed the area due to falling panels from the building and such. Just gotta to urban exploring on your own now

No one can keep a stalker from the zone

[inland sage]

too many anomalies

For a true stalker larp, there should be random trap wires that have confetti cannons attached to them and if you get confetti'd you're d e a d

[sly sluice]

#💬┃en_offtop message

[zealous goblet]

any night vision goggle mods?🧑‍🦯

[cobalt fiber]

@sly sluice veteran

[still current]

no

[zealous goblet]

😦

[pale fossil]

Brightness up

[rancid lodge]

finally beat stalker clear sky on master difficulty

That entire strelok fight is tough shit, you have literally zero meds by the end of the game

but it was fun and im glad that I can say I did it.

[plain fiber]

I don't get why everyone apparently has such a hard time with Clear Sky's final stretch. I did it on Master as well and had a pretty easy time with it.

[drifting forge]

Yeah no it's easy as hell

[wintry pumice]

You can put on a green tinted glass and pretend it's night vision

[hoary crest]

Only reshade presets at the moment

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/218

[wintry pumice]

Eww Nexus mods

[hoary crest]

🤷‍♂️ I dont much care about the politics of the site, its just a resource like any other

[quartz anvil]

i find that most high quality mods are on moddb anyway while i use nexus mods for fallout new vegas :p

[hoary crest]

Spot the t*tty mod enjoyer 😄

[wintry pumice]

Tank top bloodsuckers when?

[hoary crest]

Why when we get the female version of the model ofc 😄

[wintry pumice]

[maiden grotto]

A mod site, where you have to mod games how "they" want you to mod games... amazing 😄

[maiden grotto]

Bloodsuckers, swimwear edition at the car wash...

Phawwwww

[plain fiber]

I mean, it's a privately owned site; they have the authority and jurisdiction to decide what mods are hosted on their site.

[maiden grotto]

As long as it agrees with their politics... Which is not what mods are about... I completely agree though when it is promoting something illegal... like some of the old fallout mods.

[wintry pumice]

What did the fallout mods do?

Don't tell me they modded Todd into the game?

[maiden grotto]

Rather not say, but lets just say illegal and be done with it.

It was that bad.

[plain fiber]

Oh, you talking about Fallout: The Frontier?

[wintry pumice]

Or Van Buren?

[plain fiber]

Wait, what happened with Van Buren?

[maiden grotto]

Does the Fora-221 extended mag, fit the decider?

[plain fiber]

It should.

[wintry pumice]

Nothing it was a scrapped fallout game is what I remember

[maiden grotto]

Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to swamps I go 😄

[plain fiber]

Oh.

Yes, that's correct, it was a cancelled entry from the original Fallout team.

[wintry pumice]

Yeah it had some interesting concepts like Deathclaw reproduction

[wintry pumice]

Hmm will the fora be enough?

[quartz anvil]

that was the canceled fallout 3 sadly

[maiden grotto]

They have to breed some how... All life does. Whether by eggs, live born, budding, even bursting out through the parents.

[plain fiber]

For the Swamps? Yeah the Fora would be enough.

Just bring a shotgun too for mutants.

[wintry pumice]

That's apparent but you actually see it in game

[maiden grotto]

That's awesome 😄

[plain fiber]

Well the original Fallouts (mostly) didn't hold back in their depictions of things. Like you could kill children in the originals.

[wintry pumice]

Last time I went there, I lost almost all my ammo. Was surviving only with the pistol

[plain fiber]

Ope, 8 PM.

Goodnight all.

[wintry pumice]

Yeah , Bethesda doesn't do that anymore

[maiden grotto]

Best one's to be honest, fallout 3 was good, but it was bethesda... Fallout 4 was gash, New Vegas, meh...

[maiden grotto]

Bethesda are shyte.

[honest sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-out-it-just-works-todd-howard-gif-15906998

[inland sage]

It's funny to me that the subtitle machine feels the need to inform of
Eugene: (upset)

[maiden grotto]

Yup, the extended mag, does work on teh decider (Fora-221)

[sudden kiln]

gang i dont have stalker 2 and i just have a question
hows the ai system or a-life

[wintry pumice]

Ok but could be improved

[sudden kiln]

[wintry pumice]

[maiden grotto]

Well, it can't get any worse... 😄

[wintry pumice]

Don't underestimate GSC

[maiden grotto]

My Skif is smart, he has now left the zone, sold the artifacts for a bucket load of money, brought a new home, and is drinking Champaign for the rest of his life.

😄

That should be the fifth ending 😄

[maiden grotto]

No, it is clear the project is a passion of love, they will get it sorted. 🙂

[inland sage]

Hmmm...so I'm at Containers...and I'm wondering if it's possible to release the pseudogiant on the bandits and just watch the carnage.

[maiden grotto]

😉

[wintry pumice]

You can't really release it, it's a joke

[maiden grotto]

I tell you what. The Psi-cat with the collar is insane now... I got lucky and got the right one, with a bucket load of buckshot... The new speedy cats with the jump thing is nuts 😄

[opaque siren]

Anyone know how to get Stalkers that are in doorframe out? Other than shooting them?

[wintry pumice]

Yeah I can barely see it. It's getting annoying to kill that thing

[wintry pumice]

UEtools mod

[opaque siren]

Xbox

[wintry pumice]

Save game and throw grenade, heard it might scare them into running but don't actually hurt them

If that doesn't work, drop the grenade on the floor near the stalker from your inventory and then shoot it

[opaque siren]

Didn't work, but I might try to get a group of bandits or sum to chase em and bring them to him so he fights them

[wintry pumice]

Try this
#☢┃stalker-general message

[inland sage]

Eh? But it's an objective...

[maiden grotto]

I just saved the game. Logged out and logged back in, sometimes the load in somewhere else

[maiden grotto]

You can, but you need to think about it though

[wintry pumice]

It says release but in fact it's a trap for you. The moment you jump in it will release itself and try to hug you

[maiden grotto]

Operation Forrest is required to a degree...

[opaque siren]

Didn't work imma try a new save though

[wintry pumice]

Or wait for an emission

[maiden grotto]

"six weeks later"

[weary hedge]

lmao before i even opened discord i was thinking to myself
WHAT UP MACH

[maiden grotto]

Thanks 😛

[wintry pumice]

Ceiling fan

[weary hedge]

and then i thought, you'd probably be here too 😂

[maiden grotto]

Thats better, back on teh Christmas list 😄

[inland sage]

I like how I'm killing the bandits in the containers and there's just...one dude sitting upstairs, marked as friendly, just playing the guitar.

[maiden grotto]

Looking forward to the new patch ?

[wintry pumice]

He's the omnissaiah

[weary hedge]

Oof, Ultra Plus has a ton of new updates for Stalker on Nexus lol forgot to check, as well as maklanes better gunfights

looks like ultra plus added a new setting too, (lighting overhaul)

[hoary crest]

Largely irrelevant in terms of S2 tbh

[inland sage]

I was kind of hoping for an outcome that involves getting to watch a pseudogiant mess up a bunch of bandits

[wintry pumice]

Yeah either it's a trap for the players or the release part of the quest is bugged

[hidden yoke]

idk if there's a setting to remove the motion blur

[inland sage]

Okay so I figured it out AFTER killing all the bandits myself. There's a door that opens up after you jump down...lure the pseudogiant through it, and it can go into where the enemy human dudes are.

Basically you have to run PAST the pseudogiant and go through the new exit

[wintry pumice]

Why would it follow you past the door when you are right there

[inland sage]

???????

[wintry pumice]

It will try and kill you first

[inland sage]

Well it followed me and now it's in the containers area being a tanky ahole that has altogether way too much damage output

[wintry pumice]

But strangely enough if you jump up the crates back after releasing it, it does run away into the main area

[inland sage]

85% of my health from tossing a rusty pot at me

[wintry pumice]

Oh well, thankfully it's AI is still broken despite GSC claiming that they have fixed it

[wintry pumice]

Yeah it can use telekinesis when it can't reach you

[inland sage]

Died again, it stomped me through the container I was on top of and then hit me with a pot before I could get up and heal

It actually interrupted my heal animation with the stomp too

[wintry pumice]

What Armor do you have?

[inland sage]

Seva-V because artifacts

[wintry pumice]

Does it have max physical protection?

Yeah it doesn't. Time to get the Falcon

[inland sage]

It's not an exo and I haven't got a no I hate it go away

It's not time to do anything but suffer through this encounter

[inland sage]

It's using that super annoying thing the AI does where if it can't melee you it just runs into cover

[wintry pumice]

Yeah but it gets broken sometimes and it just stands there or a small part of it is sticking out

That's how you kill the pseudogiant in the arena anyway

[inland sage]

Yeah it's not really happening right now

...a bandit...spawned? They're not fighting each other?

[wintry pumice]

Try leading it into the poison pit below

And there's another pit close in the same location too, you can lead it there and probably shoot from above

[maiden grotto]

It's easy.... Stealth into the camp, you can right to the back through tunnels, nice and quiet like. You can work your way around the back of compound, and get to the slop bit to the arena, that releases the Psuedo.... Once you drop down, run the hell out of the spot of the arean, and jump back on to the slop to the bit fall down to release the Pseudo... Let the psuedo kill everything...

Use the containers and roof, to get to the top floor. The Pseudo should enter via the double doors on ground floor.

Walk out of the small door and lure the Pseudo upstairs... go back through the single door as you unleash everything...

Rince and repeat... use nades etc

[hoary crest]

Simply shoot the Pseudo-giant until it is dead

[wintry pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-8470516175995282617

[hoary crest]

😄

[maiden grotto]

Well yeah... You are not going tickle it 😄

[hoary crest]

I mean you could always try to knife it to death

[maiden grotto]

Pseudokebab

[hoary crest]

Its totally possible! I melee'd a Carnifex to death in Spacemarine 2 earlier.. granted Skif isnt a 9ft tall transhuman killing machine, but its still possible!

[inland sage]

Well it took every shotgun shell I had, but it's dead.

[maiden grotto]

Are you exploring it now?

as you need to pick up it's necklace

[inland sage]

I got that

I'm exploring the containers now. I want to get into this building even though I know it's probably not possible.

Okay attempt one: jump into the big anomaly
Failed

[wintry pumice]

Which building?

[inland sage]

The one with the other big anomaly in it

There's a collapsed sort of antenna that crashed into it and made a big hole in the wall but that spot is way too irradiated to climb in.

I WAS WRONG.

This room has the empty feeling of cut content

#📸┃screens_and_videos

Well I'm standing in the anomaly and nothing is happening.

Okay I had to just load my quicksave to get back out lol

[wintry pumice]

Yeah a few of them are not working

[pseudo lotus]

game is crashing on startup now 😦 I cant even see the shader warmup, it shows the eplilepsy warning and then crashes. Anyone else having this issue?

[wintry pumice]

Game is experiencing epilepsy

[inland sage]

Oh, neat. I didn't know the 100 rads had a backdoor to the garbage.

[wintry pumice]

It's the only way to reach that loot anyway

[inland sage]

I mean, I've gotten the loot there before, I just didn't know there was a tunnel in the back of the 100 rads leading directly to the anomaly

[austere cove]

is there a lore accurate reason why all poltergeists and bureres etc are completely hostile to stalkers

they just want to be left alone or have prey to eat but they're obv smart enough to speak and communicate

bloodsuckers are not

would actually be cool to see writing in blood on the wall of some abandoned location telling you to GTFO

[hidden yoke]

isn't burer and polter are man-made experiment gone wrong?

[inland sage]

Or gone right?

[hidden yoke]

all of the experiment in stalker gone wrong

[austere cove]

Gone half right, idk how they're created but I think the zone "creates" them now that the project is going

[pseudo lotus]

ok yea. my game just wont start. I see a spike in GPU activity and CPU activity, and then it immediately crashes. WTF??

[pseudo lotus]

anyone else have a similar issue? my gae was fine before the new update

[inland sage]

No, see, when you kill them they turn into subtle matter and after you walk away they possess and repair their bodies.

[hidden yoke]

verify game cache?

[pseudo lotus]

done, reinstalled the game, clean install, verified again. deleted shaders, verified again.

[hidden yoke]

maybe turn off everything and then start the game up to see if it somehow took too much resources to boot up?

[pseudo lotus]

nope. nothing. game is just broken now.

nothing I do helps. theres NO mods, its a clean install- i just updated my drivers. I dont even know where the crashlog is to check!!

[hidden yoke]

that's weird if you reinstall the game and get the same result

[inland sage]

Oh, Birch has a Bulat now...

Time to dip into my rainy day artifact stash

[austere cove]

anybody know some decent spots for artifact farming

a stalker is poor asf because of having to repair and buy all ammo and equipment himself

well 26000 some money for carrying around but not enough

very expensive to repair good guns like saiga 12

[inland sage]

Bulat...and my first leaded container. Things are looking up Skif.

There's anomalous spots marked on the map, aren't there?

[pseudo lotus]

Yea. I’m gonna try deleting everything in my app data folder and reinstall

[inland sage]

Oh no, the sign says no smoking...but I totally smoked those bandits

[long relic]

Hmmm still no worthwhile update

2 months later oh well

[hazy gyro]

in your opinion, what’s the best way to get the gauss rifle? monolith soldiers, buy it in prypiat, or from the quest “in the name of science”?

[hidden yoke]

"not a LIVE SERVICE GAME" btw

[terse ravine]

the og trilogy is on sale on xbox rn

considering picking it up

[lapis silo]

100% worth it. Those games are still exceptional to this day!

[terse ravine]

i like your gato

they look very content

[terse ravine]

hoping cloud anomalies get fixed in the next patch

[hidden yoke]

the crane stash in red forest

[sudden kiln]

why does stalker 2 have like those classic boss battles

you just shoot at the guy standing in an open space that sometimes jumps around

and when hes low you just get upclose to him and a cutscene plays

[gilded bough]

that rostok memory leak is atrocious

[hidden yoke]

anyone know what Ray reconstruction option do?

i just kill a merc, loot him and saw an artifact on him.

Is this the devs trying to buff enemy drop or something?

Found these guys at the Port Cranes in the Swamp near the boat

[pale fossil]

i think there's a very slight chance high-end enemies have artifacts, i also found some

before the last patch

[pale fossil]

it makes raytracing less noisy

[hidden yoke]

oh, it's a scripted spawn of mercs, 1 of them will always have a random artifact on them.

[mystic rivet]

will the new patch be released today ?

[gilded bough]

that's still idiotic

as with everything game related tying it to CPU frequency means it's going to run at that rate, and with people's CPUs running at different frequencies that means their games will behave differently

and with most modern CPUs having variable clock speeds depending on performance demand, even individual cores on multicore systems can have variable frequencies

I don't know what you're smoking but you need to go to rehab

[hot minnow]

Extremely doubtful

[hidden yoke]

don't expect a patch to be released and the patch will be released

[hot minnow]

It’s cool KCD comes out Tuesday

[gilded bough]

a lot of quest givers are bugged

[shrewd needle]

I don't get it...why does the Wiki have separate pages for the exact same locations in S2 as in the original trilogy? They've moved around, but S2 is a sequel and not an alternate timeline from the originals, right?

[sleek gulch]

Really curious what the new patch will bring aside from alife improvements and bug fixes. I do hope weapon rebalance and enemy intelligence get touched on this one. Or, you know, giving me an actual flashlight.

@shrewd needle Yeah, they are connected. But, throughtout all stalker games I played, the areas environment can drastivally differ.

[gilded bough]

a lot of quest givers are broken for me, owl, sidorovich, and harpy - soon as I turn in ta quest they stop giving missions - the harpy quest doesn't even complete

[shrewd needle]

Environments can differ, but again...S2 is a literal sequel...the Ahroprom Factory from SoC/CS is literally the same one as in the Chemical Plant in S2, so separate pages honestly make no sense to me... 😖

[sleek gulch]

@gilded bough Yeah, it's all of them that have the same bug. Sometimes, you can get lucky in an artifact hunt, by dropping the artifact from your inventory and picking it back up again before handing it to the trader. And, it will actually be completed

[shrewd needle]

NFS Rivals being tied to frame-rate is a nice example of how not to do it as well...tying things to CPU speeds is even better...

[sleek gulch]

@shrewd needle yeah, but the interior and I believe the design is diffrent in those games. I get that it is the same Chemical Plant throughout the game, but it isn't identical. The separate wikis are more likely how they are because of the time gap of S2's development.

[shrewd needle]

Uh...no, the interior and design is the exact same. I remember vividly, because I played Clear Sky only a few days before getting S2 to work. The layout, architecture, pathways...nothing is different.

Only difference is psychic fields and electro anomalies replaced by roof-top burners.

[static swallow]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNeoFtTM8/

[weary hedge]

when patch

[gilded bough]

jeebus how to do I get down after I get the nut... falling to my death...

oh you drop down right under you

man I hate these bouncy anomolies - you aim for them and still die despite hitting them because the hitbox for them is weird

[gilded bough]

I took out a sniper in a tower on the eatern edge of the cooling towers map but I can't figure out how to get over to him past the fence, there's deep water on both sides

with the power of cheats I jumped over the fence and found nothing of value

guy didn't have a special weapon or anything, no good loot

[serene barn]

you're not supposed to really be able to get over there. it's one of those monolith insta kill snipers that take an unreasonable amount of damage.

[gilded bough]

well he didn't insta kill me and I killed him with a few shots of my SVD

he kinda just ran around confused looking for me in the dark while I hid behind a lil building and sniped him

[weary hedge]

do you guys have option to overide dlss 4?

it says day 0 support for dlss4 but i cant overide neither it is in game

[gilded bough]

what do you mean override?

[hidden yoke]

update your gpu drive

Also download dlss 4 files

[weary hedge]

through nvidia app

[hidden yoke]

OR, use DLSS Swapper

[wintry pumice]

Today

[maiden grotto]

Probably monday

Well, Monday is good.. gives them a week to sort out the new issues and release patches

[gilded bough]

I still can't get over how this guy straight drinks condensed milk

🤢 🤮

[pale fossil]

how do you know hes straight?

[weary hedge]

yeah we go in this cycle until the next month

[lethal crest]

You might be thinking of evaporated milk, drinking that would indeed be vile

Condensed milk usually refers to a sweetened version, so it would be much more palatable
I’ve seen some people just boil tins of the stuff to make a sort of dulce de leche

[serene barn]

is is condensed milk though, that is what they call it as well as saying something about a sweetness or something it has.

and supposedly it's usable as bait for mutants or something lol. according to the description

[minor wyvern]

I just read this “bear in mind you don't get to free roam after completing the story, so explore now or make a save before going to pripyat” is this true if you complete the main story it all ends and you have to start from the beginning without free roam?

[lethal crest]

Yeah

Condensed milk can mean the unsweetened stuff too, it’s a regional/language thing
That’s why I specified that condensed milk usually means the sweetened stuff

[lethal crest]

There’s a couple missions you do before you hit the point of no return after getting through the Corps’ wall
You’re not locked into Jupiter & Prypiat after completing The Boundary

But, yes, there is a point after which you cannot return to the open world

[serene barn]

yes when you gotta enter a place called Foundation you're locked in.

free roam would have been fine but it would also have been boring i feel with nothing new to do. besides none of the originals had free roam post ending

[minor wyvern]

So knowing this would you say most people don’t bother with the main story and just free roam straight from the beginning? Someone said certain areas are unreachable unless you complete certain story missions.

I much prefer free roam gameplay which isn’t guided and whatever you discover is from wondering the landscape with no direction or guidance.

[lethal crest]

You aren’t supposed to be able to leave the Lesser Zone before handing in the Ward sensors, and get into Prypiat before completing The Boundary

But I was able to get into Prypiat before even going into SIRCAA, there’s a bunch of ways around it that people have discovered

[minor wyvern]

So if you discover a route to Pripyat you can gain access but if you follow the story path you get locked in, foundation is in Pripyat im assuming

[lethal crest]

Foundation is in Prypiat, yes

But if you follow the story to get into Prypiat but don’t go any further you can still free roam

[minor wyvern]

Ok thank you for explaining. I’ve only played Stalker Anomaly / Gamma so I haven’t played all the others which are story based hence why I prefer a free roam style of playing. Since the start of Stalker 2 I’ve only done story missions back to back and haven’t really free roamed at all

[lethal crest]

How far are you in the story?
Because I would say that pre-SIRCAA is the best time to free roam, the story picks up the pace after it and IMO it feels like Skif would be rushing mission to mission because of how urgent his taskings are

[serene barn]

there is places you can only enter as missions and stuff and sort of zone regions as you can't get into ones like Jupiter until nearing the end of the story and same with prypiat.

i definately need to roam more pre SIRCAA next run i do i feel. meet npcs to talk with before things happen just for the whatever diaglogue they might have about it.

[minor wyvern]

I’m way passed SIRCAA now, gone to those electrical towers and done more missions. But I’m gonna free roam to the point where I have access to all areas

[lethal crest]

You can officially only get into Jupiter and Prypiat in the late/endgame

But you can find parkour routes online that can get you in the heart of Prypiat minutes after leaving the Lesser Zone

[serene barn]

yeah i don't count unofficial means as well, something you're meant to do lol

[minor wyvern]

Sounds decent, I’d rather roam and just explore unofficially😂 you’ll probably need the ledge grabbing mod for that one

[serene barn]

there's only like 3 or so regions that is story locked i thinkkk

[lethal crest]

Fair enough
But the one I use doesn’t make use of any glitches or anything, and there’s a Corps sniper who I had to dodge to get in

I see it as compatible, especially since it’s already established in lore that stalkers try and bypass the wall anyway

[minor wyvern]

Is that sniper at the gates of those massive electrical structures? I’ve been killed by that one a few times

[lethal crest]

I didn’t need the ledge grab mod, I’m on console so I can’t get any mods

All you need is to push a box to the right place then try a few times to jump onto a piece of geometry

And it hasn’t been patched, I did it on a recent playthrough

[minor wyvern]

I didn’t realize you could move or push boxes and stuff

[lethal crest]

Maybe, I can’t remember

This sniper is just to the East of Yaniv station, in a little signal tower thing

[lethal crest]

There’s only some boxes that are pushable, most aren’t

[minor wyvern]

I think my best bet at this point is to complete the story just before the point of being locked it, so I make a save before Pripyat is that correct or before foundation?

[serene barn]

Cooling Towers, Duga and Jupiter has places that you're not supposed to be in and the way the dev team decided to make that shown is to insta script kill you every time you're near or is hit by the guys there.

[minor wyvern]

Understood, a mod to disable these “script kill” snipers would be nice

[lethal crest]

Cooling Towers?
Where in Cooling Towers are you not meant to be, I got in without any problems

[lethal crest]

Probably, yeah

The game flashes up a big warning on your screen before you go past the point of no return, trust me you’ll know when you get there

[minor wyvern]

Thanks, and if I choose not to continue that will give me full free roam or will these script kills still be there?

[lethal crest]

Full free roam, the snipers go away after you’re allowed access into the regions IIRC

The Yaniv one certainly didn’t bother me when I was going past him after completing The Boundary

[serene barn]

there's a watchtower building on the right side where you can get some double mags for something and there's a sniper guy there, not meant to be there so he ends you if he can get a shot on you. secondly the Red Fortress is an end game mission place, guy i talk to about the game went there just to get sniped the same way.

[lethal crest]

Dnipro double mags?
I never really understood the double mags, the extended ones are always just better

And the Dnipro accepts the AK-74 emag you can get in in the entrance to the tunnel under the Sphere

[serene barn]

frankly i would have liked another way of telling us to not go places other than just killing us that way as it could for some people cost them hours of playing because they forgot to quick save regularly

[lethal crest]

Autosave mitigates that pretty well I find

[serene barn]

double mags your first reload quicker where as the big mag reloads slower but holds more rounds. sometimes you need extra rounds and other times those extra is not enough so a quicker reload to go back to 30 rounds is better. but it's situational i guess.

[lethal crest]

I find most engagements don’t last long enough for me to need to reload, and those that do have solid cover I can reload behind

[minor wyvern]

I’m just accustomed to playing stalker gamma, after free roaming constantly it just felt better. Being driven and told where to go and what to do down a pre-selected path just isn’t my style. Also I’ve found stalker 2 extremely easy so far, gamma kicked my ass ever time I played. It was difficult, finding parts, repair kits etc, all mods of course but it wasn’t easy. Stalker 2 is enjoyable but has just been way too easy

[serene barn]

the modpacks were BUILT to be harder than the base games.

and they did seem to already dumb down Stalker 2 to make a broader audience interested in it

like the AI is dumber than they used to be.

ultra mega hardcore was not what the devs wanted the games to be

or else that is just what they would have done i feel.

[boreal coyote]

When patch

[wintry pumice]

It's already out ||in the shining zone ||

[serene barn]

why is patch

what the patch doin'

[wintry pumice]

How's the patch

[smoky hawk]

yhea, well, Stalker 2 is a Stalker game, therefore, it won't be like GAMMA

[minor wyvern]

Not gonna believe this but I’ve just found a mod which seems to make it like gamma! You start in Cordon, limited money and supplies, I spoke to sid for a job, and I’m off to try and make some money. There are no mission markers on the map, all along this is what I wanted. Stalker gamma with Stalker 2 graphics. Now I’m in heaven

[smoky hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/what-ill-the-puke-sick-gif-20637274

[hoary crest]

You kinda could have achieved that by just turning off the HUD

No mission markers if you don't have a HUD see?

[cobalt fiber]

😬

[minor wyvern]

Ahaa I didn’t realize that either, but would that make it the same? I mean in this you start in rookie village with nothing, 2000 money, basic stuff, same as anomaly/gamma. But will try without a hud on a new save and see how it works

[cobalt fiber]

Doesn't really make sense to considering the way the story still plays out though

[hoary crest]

You start the game with nothing anyway...

You're unlikely to get anything close to a Gamma experience until the SDK has been out for a while

[wintry pumice]

Skif doesn't make sense either

[cobalt fiber]

Not much about S2 does

[minor wyvern]

What’s the SDK? And yeah that’s exactly what I’m after, something like gamma, really enjoyed playing that

[hoary crest]

The official mod toolkit, which the devs have said we'll get at somepoint

[minor wyvern]

Then it’s only gonna get better after this happens. Will look forward to this for sure

[hoary crest]

But like i said, you're not getting anything close to that experience until the community has the mod tools

[hoary crest]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/129 You probably do want this though

[smoky hawk]

Software Development Kit
needed to make serious mods

not release, yet

[wintry pumice]

Does that mean Strelok can finally have a full head of hair?

[minor wyvern]

Thank you I will try this

[smoky hawk]

if somebody finds the model, they can change the model already

[hoary crest]

Full head of hair? Im gonna install a mod that makes him as bald as me

I wanna be able to see my reflection on that dome

[sturdy verge]

NoOoOooOO, we need a mod hair for him and a goatee

[wintry pumice]

What if Skif is bald too?

[oak junco]

id ask this in #🔩┃trilogy_modifications

[sour schooner]

Ah ok

[hoary crest]

Baldness is peak aerodynamic efficiency, change my mind

[oak junco]

ong

[wintry pumice]

Scar agrees

Though what are you doing to need this aero dynamic advantage?

[hoary crest]

It hasn't had a use yet, but its better to have it and not need it than to need it an not have it 😄

[wintry pumice]

[sturdy verge]

wa wa i changed your mind lol

[wintry pumice]

The Bald Federation should be a faction

[hoary crest]

Who do you think you are? The Monolith? Pfft

[sturdy verge]

i am sids chicken, with my taste i change minds 😄

[last saddle]

jokes on you. stalkers only meat is canned

[wintry pumice]

I found an even better name, ||The Bald Cabal||

[sturdy verge]

thats cause they havent got the Limansk DLC

[last saddle]

pretty funny theres a map of day z tho

[wintry pumice]

And there were some lovely noises coming from the radio near the Limansk bridge

Seems like the people in Limansk were having a good time

[last saddle]

with the dude to non dude ratio i dunno about all that

[boreal coyote]

Sunday patch?

[wintry pumice]

Midnight Patch

[boreal coyote]

Patchy patch

[last saddle]

couple bottles of magic vodka gets ppl goin

[boreal coyote]

Patchy patchy patch patch?

[wintry pumice]

Stop being racist! all mutants were once humans too. Mutants matter too!!!

[maiden grotto]

#BLM Bloodsucker lives matter 😄

Was going through the check point between slag heap and Rostok last night. Thought it would be an easy crossing...

One plolti, 3 bloodsuckers and pack of blind dogs... Oh I laughed 😄

[wintry pumice]

I had to fight regular dogs, psi dog and 2 bloodsuckers at the same time in the swamps during the quest to disable the psi emitters

Thankfully there a fire anomaly field near by

[last saddle]

do i have to hold onto one of each artifact for the trophy or just finding them all works

[sturdy verge]

yeah you also gotta rub it on ya chest, also i have no idea but good question

[last saddle]

man.. i been lickin em all

[still current]

[last saddle]

gotta lick em all

artifacts!

[wintry pumice]

"I know its my destiny" - Skif

[sturdy verge]

so you said what if skif is bald too? well he deffo rubs it on his head 😄

[wintry pumice]

If he's bald at 25, that would explain why came into the zone after his home burned down. He has no hope...

[sturdy verge]

also that pod that one goes in, i thought about how its going to be full of pee and poo as time goes on.

[north jacinth]

need to know how to mod stalker 2

[hoary crest]

Hey you jest, but a lot of girls love bald men, I think Skif is just skits 😄

[wintry pumice]

That means I have hope in the future . Thank you

[hoary crest]

You are very welcome 😂

[flint wyvern]

Hey Stalkers. Any chance I can get some advice on why I can’t use my controller after the recent update? Pissing me off

I’m on PC

[last saddle]

felt the same way when i first tried to play but im glad i went with m&k personally. makes headshots so much better

sorry i dont have an answer for that tho

[flint wyvern]

That’s cool ty

[wintry pumice]

it should work, is the game not detecting it at all?

[flint wyvern]

Not since the patch

[inland sage]

Man that is so weird. I just can't fathom why someone on PC would want to kneecap themselves by using a controller.

[flint wyvern]

Was working fine through SIRRCA

[last saddle]

some games just feel better on controller. this probably isnt one of them tho

[wintry pumice]

contact support then #s2-support

[flint wyvern]

Because I came from console and can’t move right with WASD

I wish I could have a thumb stick and a mouse believe you me

[inland sage]

Oh, even that sounds...there's keys on the left side of the keyboard you would want to press, to reload and whatnot

[flint wyvern]

And m 55 and don’t adapt as well lol

[last saddle]

fair enough

[hoary crest]

Yeah.. Racing games and Souls games

Playing a shooter with a controller is just weird, hell playing anything that requires precision on a controller is weird

[flint wyvern]

POE 2 was the exception but it’s top down

[last saddle]

theres a few shooters i choose controller. like mgs or gta for example

[flint wyvern]

Learned WASD real quick

[hoary crest]

A lot of games do support dual inputs

[flint wyvern]

But it doesn’t translate to FPS

[inland sage]

What's the deal with the polissya collective farm?

[sturdy verge]

farmers market it for blood sucker babies and such

[pseudo lotus]

Good morning stalkers. My stalker 2 will still not boot. I have verified, reinstalled, changed drives, updated drivers, etc. stalker 2 crashes as soon as I start it and I’m at my wits end

[violet dune]

no error msg?

[wintry pumice]

Tried contacting support?

[inland sage]

There's a stash just to the east of there...and I'm blanking on how to get to it again lol

Ah wait I managed it with a running jump from a box

[cobalt fiber]

Error code?
Tried checking good old reddit/Google search?

All else fails #s2-support

[inland sage]

Is there any point to their existence? A plot that involves them, a side mission, anything?

[cobalt fiber]

9/10 if someone in here comes with an issue and I help out I'm googling for a reddit solution lol

[cobalt fiber]

[maiden grotto]

It's the sort of thing that needs to be added to game. A lot more purpose with a lot more things...

Most for the time, things just exist

[hoary crest]

Important question. Have you got mods installed? If so, make sure they're all updated and working on the latest version

[maiden grotto]

Mods - Multiple Orifice Disease Syndrome... It's what you get with too mutant love.

And remember, bloodsuckers are not just for Christmas.

[hoary crest]

Sir, this is not the Betheda community 😄

[crystal granite]

I was massively disappointed when I was sent down to the X lab where controllers were made, and I bumped into only one (deffo scripted) and one or two 'failed' subjects on stretchers covered with sheets. Like, for a location that had such impact on the Zone, I was there for less than 10/15mins

[cobalt fiber]

Those burers had huge feet

On the stretcher

[maiden grotto]

And that isn't an indication of anything else.

[cobalt fiber]

The whole big socks thing doesn't apply

[crystal granite]

I hate those lil dwarfs lol

[crystal granite]

Wasn't burers. Controller bodies

[cobalt fiber]

There was one in particular that was a pain. Duga

So many guns

[crystal granite]

That burer was easy af. If you grabbed the key card off the table before you went up the ladder, you could loot an rpg from the locked storage and blast the fụcker. Least that's what I did

[cobalt fiber]

And there's me struggling to find cover

[maiden grotto]

Yeah, I get that too... I have been very underwhelmed in teh X-Labs... Was also disappointed you couldn;t go down into the old Brain Scorcher Lab, and the one under Yantar... You can go down the stairs, but the entrance is blocked of.

Wasted my glow sticks... Glow sticks, is something else this game needs

[hoary crest]

Another location that the game desperately needs come DLC

[maiden grotto]

I don't mind dwarfs, saves on knee pads...

[crystal granite]

All I was able to do was grab the brain scorcher stash (iykyk) but so much for that otherwise

[inland sage]

...so I walked into this room thinking "Oh neat, no grenade traps this time"
I see a stash, go to grab it, hear a click
💥

[maiden grotto]

I know. They need to sit down with me, and go through a few things...

But the game was released earlier, so who knows what they actually had planned.

[crystal granite]

"Kaboom? 💣"

"Yes, Rico. Kaboom"

[wintry pumice]

Yeah I have no idea why people come here looking for solutions

[hoary crest]

I expect there was a lot of content that was cut as a result of time constraints as is the usual with big releases, though it did well, so hopefully a lot of that gets bought back in over time

[crystal granite]

Fo4 has mods where ppl dig through the files and add that stuff themselves. So in case the devs won't help, modders will

[hoary crest]

In some cases yes, but it wholly depends on just how much is left in the files

[crystal granite]

Depends on how far the devs were, and if the left themselves an easy to pick up file or so for later on

[hoary crest]

Yeah for sure, though that does'nt guarantee that it was left in the shipped product, invariably some stuff will be and some stuff will have been removed, hard to say exactly what at this current time

[maiden grotto]

Only time will tell, but in the mean time, they can do a lot to make the game make sense, fix bugs etc.

Personally I think we will see the update tomorrow...

[hoary crest]

Did'nt we get one a couple days ago?

Or did it break a bunch of stuff? I've not gotten on yet

[violet dune]

not tomorrow, but in couple of weeks should drop

[gilded bough]

maybe the wish granter granted the wish for waifus

[last saddle]

bloodsuckers for all

[gilded bough]

they're on a different diet thanks to the wish granter

[maiden grotto]

That was more of a patch apparently, we got the main one yet to come. They said begining of Feb... So possibly tomorrow... Monday is a good day to release updates 🙂

[inland sage]

So I get to wild island just in time for an emission. Then Faust talks a bunch and another emission happens immediately anyways.

[sturdy verge]

faust with his sexeh hair

[gilded bough]

emissions always happen at the worst times for me

[last saddle]

the zone works in mysterious ways

[hoary crest]

Awesome, love to see it 🙏

[inland sage]

But hey, Tuesday is a great day for Henry to come see us

[hoary crest]

Man I could do with a Henry right about now 😂

[gilded bough]

bout to finish a quest, a chimera spawns, 20 guys shooting at me, emission warning, 4 bloodsuckers spawn

[maiden grotto]

yup, 600lbs heffers, and the wish granter gave them beer googles...

the wish granter is a lie

[last saddle]

psuedogiants for all

[inland sage]

Man now THAT would be interesting. A medieval zone with no guns, swords and metal armor and bows/crossbows as the ranged options.

[hoary crest]

Given how much Vodka is avaliable, I doubt beer goggles are an issue for them or us 😄

[last saddle]

blights looking pretty damn sick

[maiden grotto]

https://www.onestopcleaningshop.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/product_9_0_902395.jpg - Whatever floats your boat 😄

[gilded bough]

hey, as long as you think it's real it's all good

[inland sage]

Mutants would be a significant threat

[hoary crest]

The 8th you helmet 😂 I realise my local slang does'nt translate well overseas 😂

[cobalt fiber]

Just copy paste in Google and take credit for the support 🫡

To be fair that's all support

[inland sage]

Man I didn't really see it last time around but Strider really just pulls Lynx out of his ass when he gives it to you.

[maiden grotto]

I was being a silly sod... I got as far as henry, and thought of a hoover 😄

[cobalt fiber]

I used to do sales and support via Live chat for different companies and it was either ctrl f in a knowledge base or Google lol

[hoary crest]

Lmao, thats fair, those things are gonna oneday drop out of public knowledge and at that point we'll truly be aged

[inland sage]

Henry the 8th? No, Henry of Skalitz.

[gleaming glacier]

has anyone figured out how to change the quick access from 2 keys to 4 so i can go back to using the f1 f2 f3 f4 keys

[hoary crest]

Anywho, back to cleansing worlds of the Tyranid menace for me, Vanguard still needs gearing up

[maiden grotto]

GL

[maiden grotto]

He is a deep man

[gilded bough]

you should see all the guns I keep in my "inventory"

[elfin vine]

Stalker 2 cigarette mod

[gilded bough]

stalkers are masters of spatial magic storage

[maiden grotto]

They have protype tardis 😄

[elfin vine]

We actually sled our extra loot you just can't see behind you

Only legendary stalkers rock the sled
Strider only has space for 1 lynx up his moontide

[maiden grotto]

We should be able to hire NPC's to come collect the goods for us, they get a cut, and make the area 🙂

[elfin vine]

Sid mod

[maiden grotto]

It already exists?

[elfin vine]

Nah aha idk

[maiden grotto]

Every time I see Sid Mod, I think of chicken in game

[sturdy verge]

only if agatha lips were on it

[inland sage]

Huh. I have a mission from Sido to get...a vintar for a rich rookie. It accepts red quality vintars apparently.

[ornate sable]

Yeah, give him the shittiest vintar you can find, or the worst one in your stash if you're collecting red guns for ragman anyway

[inland sage]

Well I've got a magic cube, so that's at least a nice option since I don't have a compass yet.

[sly sluice]

I love soft air guns

[inland sage]

I considered repairing it, but it would have cost a few thousand more than the job prize lol

[sly sluice]

Problem is the monolith wont call hit after i shoot em

[plain fiber]

I thought New Vegas was great, just held down by the myriad of technical issues.

[maiden grotto]

I never got into it, I know people that swear by it, but meh... just never tickled the right bits

[hoary crest]

Heads up guys, just got an unsolicited DM from a "nilo" from in here, likely a scammer, just block them if you recieve anything

Upon being asked directly if they were a scammer, they ceased replying, so yeah, pretty cut an dry

[sly sluice]

If anyone says shit like I accidentally reported your steam etc
That's a scammer. I had them in my servers for years.

[maiden grotto]

Someone to send my new collection of dump pics too...

[hoary crest]

I don't even let em get that far

[sly sluice]

I never heard of anyone falling for them but they target some servers and keep going for years

[hoary crest]

Sadly, there is a large amount of people who don't practice safe internet usage and they prey on people who are older/uneducated on the matter. Scum

[maiden grotto]

people fall for them, that is why they do it.

[sly sluice]

Yeah well someone does, yes, Just never met one..

[hoary crest]

You know what, I'm gonna unblock them and send them the Thanos c*ck

[sly sluice]

Best thing you can do is waste their time
But for the "try my game" virus fishers you can decompile and get their discord webhook and send them some messages

[maiden grotto]

A Richard 3rd

[plain fiber]

Ping a mod or helper and let them know.

[hoary crest]

@cobalt fiber you might wanna yeet the guy named "nilo" out of this server, just got an unsolicited DM from them, blatant scammer, has sent one message in this server and I've never spoken to them once

[hoary crest]

Yep, he got a 12" purple c*ck in his DM and told to fck off and get a real job 😄

[plain fiber]

So, that same "UE5 developer" is also convinced that all of the weapons in the game are hit-scan.

I guess I'm just hallucinating having to adjust my Vintorez to compensate for bullet drop.

[hoary crest]

They absolutely are not hitscan lol

[sly sluice]

hahaha yeah thats why im lobbing airsoft bbs

[hoary crest]

Vanilla bullet-drop kicks in at like 20m on some weapons :/

[plain fiber]

Just for context, there's this guy on the r/stalker subreddit who's been going around saying that A-Life (specificaly the "Offline" component) is literally impossible to implement in UE5.

They claim that they're a "UE5 developer", whatever the hell that means.

[sly sluice]

9x39 just kinda wild. No one would think its hitscan

[sly sluice]

I think they have engine problems, though

[plain fiber]

Oh definitely, but I don't think that implementing A-Life is impossible as this person says.

They way they talk about it, I think that they misunderstand how A-Life in the original trilogy actually works.

[hoary crest]

Well thats just horsesh*t, KCD managed to have "offline" state AI go about thier business without issue

[plain fiber]

KCD was made in Cryengine.

[hoary crest]

I though the new one was in UE no?

[plain fiber]

Nope, pretty sure KCD II is Cryengine as well.

[hoary crest]

Huh, I stand corrected

[patent heath]

Don't you hate it when everytime you going out, there's gonna be not one, but TWO BLOODSUCKERS

[hoary crest]

Either way, I very much doubt its impossible. Difficult maybe, but imossible, likely not

[sly sluice]

You can do it. but I think they are having problems with AI in general, cant be done on a low level, has to be done on script level

[plain fiber]

I think this person also doesn't know that A-Life in the original trilogy also had a radius-spawner around the player.

[sly sluice]

I think so much of it people saw some youtube video of how amazing it was, and played only anomaly, and dont remember what it was like in stalker1

[plain fiber]

The way I've always seen "Offline" A-Life described is that it's effectively a spreadsheet or graph doing calculations in the background; the NPCs and their interactions are said calculations/data points, and all that stuff is non-rendered until it enters the player's "Online" bubble.

[hoary crest]

Think thats the idea yeah

[patent heath]

Back in the days, Bloodsucker's attack are rare, usually alone and sometimes two of them

[sly sluice]

Yes, and it also wasn't doing much at all in vanilla stalker1 (Other than clear skys war system)

[patent heath]

Now these fuckers roaming like everyday anytime

[plain fiber]

The spawn radius in the orignal trilogy was larger though; 150 - 200 meters or so.

[hoary crest]

Most common mutant in the zone, somehow..

Well, other than doggos anyway

[sly sluice]

Yeah i think this is true. They never spawned in front of me or in a way where it didnt seem like they just snuk up on me in stalker2 though even in the first patch

[patent heath]

I don't mind the pack of dogs, pseudo dogs (now it's psi dog) but Bloodsuckers?

It's getting repetitive overtime

[sly sluice]

Yeah its weird how dogs, flesh and boar are more rare now

[wintry pumice]

Bloodsuckers every 10 mins

[hoary crest]

I have seen them pop into existence a couple of times, but its rare, and I don't think I saw it at all on the first patch, it was on a later version

[hoary crest]

Clearly they've all been eaten by the Bloodsuckers 😄

[plain fiber]

Well according to this person that's wrong.

They say that the original "Offline" simulation was "...far far more than just a spreadsheet. It was an entire separate AI system that constantly ran in the background."

Uh, not according to literally every other person I've talked about this with, including modders.

[sly sluice]

But one thing I think is sad is dogs, for example dont have the nice dog pack AI anymore and just run around a bit then straight to you to attack

[wintry pumice]

yeah for blind dogs they certainly do know how to get behind you in your blind spot

[patent heath]

Don't get me start it on humans

[sly sluice]

Thats the kind of stuff people imagine and its sad that its common and giving stalker2 hate. They seem to think SoC had chatGPT running on every single npc all the time

[plain fiber]

Yeah, after reading through some of their more recent comments, it's very clear that they misunderstand what A-Life in the original trilogy was and how it worked.

Sure, it might take more time to fully implement into S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2, but I don't buy that UE5 can't do it.

[sly sluice]

But yah dogs in stalker1 would run away when you killed their mate and stuff like that, almost never just go up to you and bite over and over. And I think flesh getting a snork jump is unfortunate too

[hoary crest]

You'd really think it would just be a set of markers that are added and removed depending on what faction they are/they meet to represent conflict, could even extend it to fighting over locations I would guess, but idk that much about gamedev

[maiden grotto]

More common than doggo's, if you only count the spawn and not the number of individuals

[hoary crest]

They don't need to do anything in an offline state whatsoever other than move around really

[patent heath]

Somehow the human npcs can see through bushes and the dark, has incredible hearing and sight, perfect aimbot even using shotguns while moving

[hoary crest]

I've certainly never seen a pig leap 20ft irl, not saying they can't, but I've never seen it 😂

[plain fiber]

It was a lot more simple than people realize. Like I remember reading that all of the offline battles between NPCs are just auto-calced.

As for NPCs behaviors like artifact hunting, that was probably more simple that we realize too.

[sly sluice]

Well, I do think UE is overrated, they probably mostly just implement on a low level the things they need for fortnite and our devs have to use higher level scripts and thats why npcs make the game so slow