☢┃stalker-general

[sly sluice]

Then in the end it wasnt actually that hard to just write your own replacement of the framework. It seems like magic until you have done it, but when you finally do it, it reveals that it wasn't that complicated.

[weary hedge]

the game industry is gone and Stalker devs are just hopeful to fix the game with normal feedback and not true feedback, the game industry after and in 2025 will collapse, indie games will be better overall

[sly sluice]

Of course writing a full on 3d game engine is much more complicated than some chat websites and discord bots and stuff. But they have a team

[weary hedge]

team doesn't matter, mw3 had like thousands of thousands of thousands of people and tens of teams, and its shit

if you really wanna make a game, you make it good

[sly sluice]

Over all i think stalker2 is good, one of the handful of new games really worth playing, and I trust them a fair amount. Using UE might very well have been the best option. But it doesn't help as much as people believe

[inland sage]

Using a new engine means they can keep with the new engine for longer

[maiden grotto]

I have a AMD Ryzen 7900 (PBO on) and I get about 70-80fps with no upscalling

[inland sage]

Who knows when the Unreal Empire will stop supporting UE4

[lyric kayak]

I know nothing, but I trusted in the zone enough to pre order

[sly sluice]

Yeah, you never know, and then you might be in trouble

[weary hedge]

never preorder any game after 2022,big mistake

[sly sluice]

It is more work with your own but then you have control over when to stop supporting it or not

[lyric kayak]

This was my last pre order since Brink for the 360/ps3

I couldnt resist pre ordering with this wait

[woeful seal]

Anyone else having crashes? I use 100% Resolution scale DLAA and FSR 3.1 Frame Gen. If I turn Frame Gen off I get no crashes but if I use it I can play for about 5 - 10 mins before it crashes

[weary hedge]

how much did it cost

[sly sluice]

Preordering stalker2 i dont really think was a mistake

[weary hedge]

man, its stalker 2,obv there are crashes, adapt

[lyric kayak]

Nothing actually, I got it as a gift, the collectors edition

[last saddle]

yeah i preordered but didnt start my playthrough til early january

[weary hedge]

oh damn, good ig

[cobalt fiber]

Just play og trilogy until next major update 😎

[sly sluice]

Crashes my whole PC every... idk, 6-12 ish hours? But only if I play in (borderless) fullscreen, I think

[weary hedge]

Real

[cobalt fiber]

Loving my replay of soc tbh

[weary hedge]

u got same pfp of @last saddle

[cobalt fiber]

Been so long

Yes we are one in the same

[woeful seal]

I am fine with crashes its just I don't want to us upscaling with AI it looks pants rather just see the whole product

[last saddle]

lol so many ppl point that out. i joined this discord with it. from what i see he joined after. i mean maybe he did too tho 🤷‍♂️

love me some metal gear

[cobalt fiber]

Yeah I've had it for a while too lmao. It's up to them to decide who's Solid and who's Liquid

[maiden grotto]

Don't use fram gen then, it's mostly garbage anyway

[cobalt fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-laughing-mgs-codec-meryl-snake-laughing-mgs-codec-gif-3693758881697740967

[sly sluice]

Here's a hot take: Fast travel from anywhere to set locations, at the cost of a expensive ish item could be good

[cobalt fiber]

Tbh I think im enjoying the soc replay more now. One because of age and two because S2 rekindled that flame

Makes you realise how far ahead of its time it really was

[last saddle]

never played through the originals. maybe i will at some point. i do own em

[cobalt fiber]

It's like playing MGS after TPP

[last saddle]

dude ill play from 1-5 np

[cobalt fiber]

Patiently waiting for snake eater remake

[last saddle]

for sure

[cobalt fiber]

That long ass ladder climb

Oh what a thrill

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-ladder-climb-gif-13097968

[last saddle]

mgs2 is my love tho

[cobalt fiber]

Surely they'll have to keep that just as lengthy for the song

I heard she re recorded it

One of the only things to be re recorded

[sly sluice]

Sometimes its just boring to run 1km

[last saddle]

thus the thousands of stashes lol

[cobalt fiber]

But yh defo try the ogs if you never played them

[last saddle]

and the amount of buildings you can enter compared to the old ones is imprssive

[cobalt fiber]

Some parts are dated but they hold up ok

[maiden grotto]

I would play it, but I am not happy with any of the current mods for the game, they are all garbage, and the one I did use, I can't find anymore

[last saddle]

yeah ill have to give it another real go

[cobalt fiber]

ZRP for the pc afaik

[maiden grotto]

I dream of a boring 1k run... I get spawns gallor

[cobalt fiber]

Also go freedom

[sly sluice]

When the original oblivion lost style mods that added back the removed maps and veichles came out that was awesome

[cobalt fiber]

Just smash arena first lol

[woeful seal]

The 120 frames feels nice though haha

[last saddle]

yeah i keep that shit on too lol

[cobalt fiber]

It was in the age of not having a quick button for quick saving so you'll find yourself aggravated a lot on death but it's all part of the fun lmao

[sly sluice]

I noticed a lot more spawns in the newer patches but if its mutants, same as beforem just keep running

[last saddle]

made going through towns feel a lot better

[sly sluice]

Could have a system like kcd where your fast travel gets interrupted by bandits

[cobalt fiber]

I watched WAB playing kcd2 last night

Was impressed

[last saddle]

didnt kcd make it to where you can die before even beginning the game for hardcore mode. pretty cool tbh lol

[cobalt fiber]

Looks a lot more polished in the parts that were wobblier in the first

[sly sluice]

kcd1 over all I thought was great. Eastern european studios are all we have these days

[maiden grotto]

I usually get surrounded by things, as it usually spawns things in twos... Like a pair of blood suckers and squad of bandits...

And running isn't an option when you are loaded to the hilt with goodies, just pay for a weapon repair 😄

[cobalt fiber]

It was good but defo good to see the needed improvements in 2

[last saddle]

i love america but man we make some shit games so id have to agree

[woeful seal]

Canit wait to be a serial killer again in kcd2

[inland sage]

AW YEAH

[last saddle]

i give credit to rockstar tho

[sly sluice]

Yeaaah gotta make a distinction between american people and companies and governments

[inland sage]

You think it's worth it to pre order just to get extra stuff?

[cobalt fiber]

Ready to lose my life to gta 6 when it drops lol

[woeful seal]

Best steam achievement ever ha

[last saddle]

lol right

[sly sluice]

Ah, im really unsure about gta6

[inland sage]

...yeah I'm gonna do that later tonight
HENRY IS COMING TO SEE US

[maiden grotto]

I feel nothing towards that game at all.

[last saddle]

rockstar games are pure fun. even just for the campaigns

[cobalt fiber]

Forever wishing you could snipe people's heads clean off like in vice city

[sly sluice]

In gta5 i missed the realism of gta4

[woeful seal]

I travelled back in past yesterday and went on a killing spree I so wish you could set fires to the villages

[last saddle]

gta4 def had better fine details about things. things that didnt matter at all. but they were there

[sly sluice]

There's a crowbcat video I think

[last saddle]

its a shame rdr2 didnt get more love. didnt care for the online at all but man that game was great

[sly sluice]

But one thing I think is sad about rockstar, bethesda, bioware etc games is they don't have the great economy of stalker

[last saddle]

most american gaming companies are just souless

[sly sluice]

Yeah at this point most series we loved are just gone

[last saddle]

[sly sluice]

Always loved how in stalker money is pretty valuable and you can usually buy nice things, and you want and need repairs (in the newer ones), basically the economy is functioning

[last saddle]

dont think i ever bought items in bethesda games.

usually go towards crafting

[sly sluice]

Exaxtly, shops are pretty useless in them, you can use them for crafting/building items so you dont have to grind for them yourself, but never nice items

[last saddle]

have very little faith in elder scrolls 6

[sly sluice]

lmao yeah can pretty much give up on that one I think.

[last saddle]

skyrim was pretty fun tho for what it was

[sly sluice]

I played quite a bit of starfield. I like spaceships

[last saddle]

i pre ordered it. havt touched it lol. i do plan to at some point tho

love me some nms tho

[harsh jungle]

I watched a freedom guy come into where I was hiding from an emission just to straight up die

[sly sluice]

I do believe in the theory that SF just had no design document and thats why it's so disjointed and systems work against each other

[last saddle]

i always watch them run out of the buldings during an emission. at least two of em always do it

[woeful seal]

Starfield was a massive let down I was so pissed

[last saddle]

i got to the first large city talked to a few dudes and just lost interest

but i wanna like it

feel the same way about ff14. i wanna like it. just cant

[inland sage]

I saw a stalker walking around, then he complained about his teeth hurting. Seconds later he dropped dead.

[last saddle]

lol

[sly sluice]

I sure would be too if I had faith in the first place. A lot of the problems are just normal AAA but the thing I find amazing is how the system work against each other. NG+ and building ships and bases with whole resource systems between bases, only to throw them away makes no sense
Also nearly all the missions are made so you can experience almost all the content in one playthrough without making enemies. This is also opositional to NG+

[woeful seal]

I always have faith because I can't code so I always respect the vision. They had some good tech just wish they was honest and not do dirty marketing tactics

[last saddle]

bethesada lost when microsoft bought them

[sly sluice]

stalker2 has more choice where you can choose ward, free stalker, spark fairly early and it changed things enough to make a second playthrough worth it

[last saddle]

the whole feel of stalker alone just hits different

minus the bugs and shit the atmosphere alone sucks you in

[river chasm]

the bugs are part of the atmoshpere... well, some of them are, anyway

[last saddle]

f all that nonsense lol

"slavjank is part of the charm" my arse

just feels good to play otherwise

[river chasm]

when i see a few ragdolls of dudes on their knees, slouched back in an arch, i know im back in the zone

[last saddle]

ragdolls are fine

[river chasm]

or a pair of NPCs trying to walk into one another and going nowhere

[maiden grotto]

I never even entained it... I knew it was going to be garbage, as they have done nothing to their engine for years, a billion loading screens and it was all a lie, jsut like Fallout 76.

Bethesda is dead to me.

The only game I am looking forward too if it ever gets released is Little Devil Inside

[sly sluice]

I dont buy bug make it better but any ambitious game is gonna have at least a lot of small bugs and the thing is they dont matter that much, what matters if the game is good

[last saddle]

i agree

[sly sluice]

Fo76 I saw was gonna be a big mess (Not just bugs, fundamental problems) before it released. The idea was failed at conception

[last saddle]

i wouldnt even mind loading screens if it was just fun to play

[maiden grotto]

It was made by Bethesda, that says it all... Skyrim is one of the most overrated games ever. It's good game, but massively overrated.

And I just had to go back 4 hours of game, before the blue mission bug kicked in... 😦

[last saddle]

that hurts

[maiden grotto]

luckily I still had one of the old autosaves before travelling Cement Factory

[last saddle]

whats the blue mission bug

[maiden grotto]

S2 is going to to be an epic game, I have faith in that, but my experience of the game, story, mechanics, has been utterly oblitorated.

[last saddle]

i try and keep 2-3 manual saves a couple hours aprts in case some funky shit happens

[sly sluice]

I would say s2 was above expectations for me. It's 2025 after all, if it's not horrible thats good

[last saddle]

lol true

[maiden grotto]

When ou hand mission and the blue marker stays on teh map, preventing you from getting new missions from mission givers like Harpy, Barkeep etc... So they are effectively dead in teh game world.

[last saddle]

sadly thats what it is

oh wow. havnt seen that one yet. luckily

[harsh jungle]

I’m missing a journalists stash lmao

[sly sluice]

It's sad, elder scrolls, fallout, call of duty, battlefield, dragon age, mass effect, FEAR are some game series from the top of my head that are now failed and will probably never get another decent game and will just milk microtransaction/p2w mobile games

[maiden grotto]

In my first game, not only have the guards not spawn in Zalyssia and Yaniv, both Barkeep and Harpy and have the blue quest marker bug... So I can;t take missions from them again, unless they fix them.

[last saddle]

the new meta is remaking old games it seems

theres very little creativity anymore

hideo kojima ❤️

[sly sluice]

You kinda have gsc, warhorse, maybe CDproj and fromsoft that still try their best to make good AA-AAA games

[last saddle]

fromsoft hasnt let me down yet

cdprojectred worries me a bit

but their games have been fun

[sly sluice]

Yeah CDproj... Idk what they are gonna do. Cyberpunk made me miss fallout4 and thats not great

[maiden grotto]

This the generation of the great fleece.

Hardware
Software
Gaming
TV
Films
Hobbies

All massively over and cynicially priced to fleece people of money for the things they love.

It's all about investor greed, and too many mugs fall for it, ruining it for everyone.

[sly sluice]

You're not totally wrong, dont get me started on Nvidia

[last saddle]

hah

[maiden grotto]

CD Projekt Dead...

Witcher 4 is going to woke nonsense...

[last saddle]

yeah... youre probably right

i dunno if its just me getting older but a lot of games intended for mature audiences seem to cater to 14 year olds

[maiden grotto]

Well they have already admitted it is going to highlight how women were treated in teh middle ages and Ciri is probably going to be a witcher despite females not being able to survive the process...

[last saddle]

ciri doesnt bother me as shes been a part of the franchise i just dont like shit forced down my throat

[sly sluice]

They are to some extent, but not really. I mean look at say pokemon, it used to be for 8 year olds, but at this point most of their customers are 20-35 that grew up with it

[lyric kayak]

I was around 14 when the first gears of war came out, i'd say games have always been that way

[last saddle]

yeah true

[maiden grotto]

That's because they are too young to know they are being fleeced, and that is all they have grown up ever knowing. So don;t know any better...

It's classic long term social engineering, by people with so much money they can afford to take short term loses.

[last saddle]

gears of war was gritty tho

it wasnt forced nonsense

[sly sluice]

Yet back when the games majority player base was 8 years old, they were a lot harder and less hand-holdy. But I guess they're betting that if they can get a 15% playerbase of kids, they can have them for life, while the rest are a done deal that will buy anything they make

[lyric kayak]

Doesnt matter what it was, it was marketed for edgy teens just like games are today. Edgy teens evolve and change

The previous gen, like my older brother, were playing like, duke nukem and shit, which was marketed obvs for teens of the time

[maiden grotto]

Ciri doesn;t bother me, it bothers me if the changed the lore to make her a Witcher. She has her own unique gifts, but she should never be a witcher.

[lyric kayak]

Teens of today are just a little colorful and ironic, but overall, is only video game.

[last saddle]

thats the thing tho. a lot of these teens back in the day still game today. you have a lot more of an older audience for games now then you did back then

[lyric kayak]

Sure, youre just not their priority

[sly sluice]

I think lens or swedish are good examples of how to make diverse characters

[last saddle]

true

but at the same time its really affecting the industry

[lyric kayak]

Im optimistic though, I see a lot of smaller developers catering to older generations of gamers

[sturdy verge]

🥹 thanks for rubbing it in lol hah

[last saddle]

lol hey man im right there with you

[lyric kayak]

And Bioware lost its entire writing team due to EA's stock dropping again, even if things arent changing for the better theyre bound to change

[last saddle]

yeah most of my hopes come from indie developers now

[maiden grotto]

The older generation are not the core customers anymore as they know most of us wont fall for the BS... Unless they are chasing whales and streamers who will plunge 1000's into their games.

[river chasm]

indie games are definitely where most of the new ideas are

[sly sluice]

It just happens you can make a lot better profits from mobile, multiplayer cosmetics/p2w than intricate single player games... And random tat

[maiden grotto]

Bioware died the day it sold itself to EA.

[last saddle]

i member...

[maiden grotto]

And most of it should be made illegal...

[lyric kayak]

It happened pretty early, but EA wasn't too much of a boogeyman as early as Mass Effect 2

[sly sluice]

Looking at pokmeon for example, the games are now mostly just a token to keep the fans, while they make their money from mobile games like pokemon go, but primatily selling cards, dolls, all kinds of random products with the characters that the old games made people love

[last saddle]

god forbid ppl get a challenging game

[sturdy verge]

like Oregon trail ? lmao

[last saddle]

that remake was insane lol

[maiden grotto]

but games are made for the lowest denominator... morons

[sly sluice]

Yeah what a challenge for the biggest franchise in the world to add difficulty options
Scale up and down 15% jeez how could a game possibly do that

[lyric kayak]

Oh that's yellow paint™️

[last saddle]

tbh i hate having 8 difficulty opetions. partly what makes me like fromsoftware games so much

just my 2 cents tho. i know im the minority

[maiden grotto]

If I made a game it one have level, fecking hard... and the only thing that would be officially said. Get good

[lyric kayak]

Difficulty settings from what I see (As a retard) are just big number inflaters

[sly sluice]

Well im thinking about games like pokemon that are so easy you just need to press A 1000 times to beat it, but they always come up with excuses to make it easier and easier

[last saddle]

preach

yeah ultra hard mode. enemies have insane amounts of hp. man isnt it fun

[river chasm]

Yeah this is why I like games being designed around a single difficulty

[sly sluice]

Fromsoft is kinda selling all their games on the basis of being hard, kind of the opposite

[last saddle]

its not hard but it doesnt really hold your hand either and is reasonable

[maiden grotto]

I prefer what do in games like helldivers and destiney 2, on the hard levels, enemies have new attacks that they throw at the player... Something more than just making stuff bullet spongers.

[last saddle]

i think helldivers did an awesome job

[sly sluice]

Yeah that's something games especially fps shouldnt do, dont make enemies bullet sponges

There's so many other things you could adjust

[last saddle]

hard to do with brainless ai. hence what makes them ai. but pvp you have an inflated amount of cheaters. hey it is what it is

[woeful seal]

Sometimes I think devs just get lucky with there tech and how do you make another good game after Skyrim. Modders made Bethesda and I will be forever in debt to the real heroes of gaming love them more than my Mrs haha

[lyric kayak]

I always assumed if a games marketing that its a hard game, its for a set genre of 'hard' games, like iron mans and stealth survivals

[sly sluice]

Well no I dont agree it's hard, there's a lot of variables.
But yes its sad FEAR1 was like the best fps AI got... Funny how that ran at 144fps on a dualcore

[last saddle]

fear was def up there

[maiden grotto]

And it's 20 years old or so

[last saddle]

at least we still do get some gems here and there

[sly sluice]

The AI, physics and dynamic lighting (Look mom no rtx!) was awesome

[half carbon]

I thought the granite squad fight was extremely irritating

[sly sluice]

Thats when they have some phy shield to be extra tanky right

[half carbon]

Yes, the Halo style shields

[last saddle]

do a barrel roll

[sly sluice]

Yeah...

Stalker has always had a bit spongy enemies when it comes to heavily armored guys, though. But it could be better

[last saddle]

i also think chimeras and pseodogiants are meant to just be feared and usually best to run unless you just have no choice but yeah they take shots

[lyric kayak]

The endgame monolith stuff was pretty nuts lol - The big round room and a dozen snipers trained on you. Alright, I guess Skif is truly the main character

[last saddle]

havnt gotten there yet but im sure

guess thats the point ill just bring all my "good" ammo i never use

[lyric kayak]

Several insane moments in that usual end-Stalker gauntlet, but Skif takes it to a whole new level if you thought Dyegtarev was a badass

[sly sluice]

Things I would change before I lower player dmg/raise enemy hp:

• enemy damage (obviously)
• enemy weapon spread/hit chance
• Animation speeds, reload, healing items, etc
• econ stuff, weapon/armor wear, drop rates, prices, etc.
  All of these would be pretty simple multiplications

[last saddle]

well if you ever make a game id probably play it lol

i dont know how all that shit works but i know games dammit

at the end of the day all thats cared about is money and i get that. but its also part of the issue if not all of it

[sly sluice]

balance is always gonna be hard but that's the point of difficulty settings, the player chooses how hard they want it to be

[last saddle]

shit i think project zomboid is amazing and that game doesnt have graphics at all

[half carbon]

I thought it ruined the pacing of the end of the game, the fight with Scar/Strelok should of been the final battle

[sly sluice]

Might be a hot take but sometimes world design/scenery, story and choices with be the best parts of a game, the gameplay generic and then the game being very easy can be the best option

[last saddle]

ehh

world design/scenery is def a huge part tho

[sly sluice]

Like say last of us 1, I think it has some nice scenes and story but I kinda dont really care for the gameplay, I'd rather it was easy

[last saddle]

amazing

first part of that game alone had me hooked and all you did was run

🥹

yeah i get what youre saying

[sly sluice]

Hzd gives me that vibe too somewhat

[last saddle]

i tried to like that game. just didnt grab me

[sly sluice]

But that's also because there they made shops even more useless, for some reason you need to provide crafting materials to shops for weapons

[maiden grotto]

now my flash light mod is borked and no longer working... what is wrong with this game 😦

[frigid hill]

.fret has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[last saddle]

lol damn i always forget wolf.. my bad

[sturdy verge]

wolf on it like its Sid's chicken 😄

[last saddle]

bs lol you can say some messed up things.

[sly sluice]

Even openAI cant do automatic moderation

[last saddle]

slavjank. its a feature

[sly sluice]

It's big pain, you can use openAIs moderation endpoint + the list of all the bad words you know and players and AI will still conspire to say bad things to each other

[last saddle]

war is never ending

-snake

[sly sluice]

War... war never changes...

[lyric kayak]

La li lu le lo

[last saddle]

les enfants terribles

[sly sluice]

id tag soldiers carry id tag weapons... nanomachines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities...

[maiden grotto]

grumble grumble

[sly sluice]

actually, I like the noosphere idea more

[last saddle]

yeah at least its original

[sly sluice]

Lain and stalker might be the same universe

[lyric kayak]

I accidentally tapped into the Noosphere once I think, with enough psychedelics

[last saddle]

lmao

once you go zombie you dont go back

[sly sluice]

Right? Its like the faust scene on top of the duga

[lyric kayak]

And im standing there like a zombie just taking it all in yeah

[maiden grotto]

Well it can kiss me f....

[last saddle]

staying away from all mods for a while

[maiden grotto]

Lain was a fantastic anime

[last saddle]

never even heard of it

[sly sluice]

1998 anime about the internet essentially turning into the noosphere connecting everyones psyche (Very basic explanation, a lot more too it)

[last saddle]

princess mononoke?

ill check itout

[lyric kayak]

noosphere stuff was what got me interested in stalker

[maiden grotto]

who hasn't?

[last saddle]

only a handful of animes ive ever gotten into

[lyric kayak]

I never cared much for the ocean or space exploration, but being a kid and having crazy Ukrainians telling you about a frontier of thought and memory between everyones brain

It sticks

[last saddle]

howls moving castle was cool too

[sly sluice]

Faust pretended to give me his hand one then made me fall down from the duga

[lyric kayak]

One of my friends told me once Kingdom hearts could take place inside the noosphere and i thought fight or flight

[last saddle]

games pretty confusing for sure

[sly sluice]

I agree, the concept is fascinating, and if you have had some unexplainable experiences, not that unrealistic

[last saddle]

story wise

then again i didnt play them all

[lyric kayak]

Pretty much the entire plot is tied to a realm made up of memories

[last saddle]

meanwhile im a metalgear fanboy and still get confused at times lol

[sturdy verge]

Snakeeeeeeeee

[sly sluice]

What i like in lain is that the internet is already bringing us to that point, everyone always connected, the internet is totally changing us, fracturing our personalities, making new fake ones..

Of course, if you're vauge it's easier to be prophetic I guess.

[last saddle]

accurate

[maiden grotto]

Where teh feck has the keybind fopr the light gone?

[last saddle]

skif has an anomaly in his pocket that just keeps feeding him bolts

[sly sluice]

still l for me

[last saddle]

middle mouse or L

[sly sluice]

middle mouse????

[last saddle]

yeah

[maiden grotto]

can they please just stop f*cking everything up...

@Fret - I know what the keys are, I want to rebind them in case they are conflicting with the headlight mod I use

And I can't find them at all in the in the endit keyboard command list

in options

[last saddle]

oh boy back to rostok i go

wonder if the giant floating ball thing has anything to do with the lag here

[sly sluice]

I kinda doubt because its the same in any "town" for me

[maiden grotto]

The one ver the lake?

[last saddle]

nah theres a big crack leading to rostok that has a big floating anomoly right near it

[last saddle]

yeah but the others are more manageable from my experience

rostoks the only town that made me crash a couple times

[sly sluice]

I mean it still plays it's just not so nice the framerate is low

[last saddle]

usually due to memory hitting 99

[sly sluice]

Mine sure isn't but I do suspect it's memory transfers.

[last saddle]

w.e they did last patch did help a bit for rostok tho

still had it crash twice tho since

[maiden grotto]

finally got the headlight working again 😄

Does any know anything about the bg floating ball above the lake east of malachite?

[last saddle]

think its just there for world story. nothing more that ive personally found anyway

[inland sage]

Thing...thing...other thing...oh, it's the thing

[last saddle]

speaking of the thing. that game was fire

[maiden grotto]

the 1984 film was

[last saddle]

well yeah but the game was pretty damn solid

remastered for steam but i dunno if im willing to dish 30 bucks for it

[maiden grotto]

didn't even know they made a game about it

[last saddle]

yeah it was pretty dope

[maiden grotto]

I might check it out at some point 😄

I loved the film, one of the all time greats

@shrewd needle - Another film for you, 1984 The Thing

[inland sage]

Isn't the...APSB already suppressed?

[last saddle]

the one i got didnt come with one

[inland sage]

Why does it let you attach a suppressor if it's already silenced

[last saddle]

its not stock suppressed

[violet dune]

just tried dlss4 on stalker2, game looks better, almost no blur

i hope next patch will include this

[inland sage]

How do I get on this...roof, in the...Stechanka

Ah! The fence.

[vivid cradle]

Is there any patch notes for this February update for xbox?

[river chasm]

no notes yet, they tend to release them with the patch

[vivid cradle]

I just downloaded update 1.7

I think you're right tho, it might just take a bit

[inland sage]

I...killed the burer. But there's a baby doll just...floating, staring at me, and glowing.

[vivid cradle]

Wait not the Feb update, I meant the Jan update, my bad

[last saddle]

it wants to play

[summer pier]

Nvidia guys will use DLSS 4 while AMD users 😢

[last saddle]

pretty sure ive killed one of each mutant but no achievement yet

[inland sage]

What kinds are there...rat, flesh, boar, snork, bloodsucker, pseudogiant, psi-dog, psi-cat, drunk stalker, and ||Faust||?

[last saddle]

chimera and blind dog

does the last one you mentioned count towards that?

[inland sage]

Ah right yeah that too

Probably not, lol

Have you not seen any of the second to last one? Torn up gas mask, wandering around on all fours spouting gibberish?

[last saddle]

yeah plenty

wait, maybe not lemme check

what are they actually called? cause there was one building i went into i heard weird gibberish but couldnt find my way to them

[shell flax]

Snorks

[inland sage]

It's a joke the warden guys tell

[last saddle]

yeah snorks are all overbut there was one spot i went i never heard them making that noise before but couldnt find them

[shell flax]

Was the gibberish in a really deep voice?

[last saddle]

yeah

[inland sage]

"I saw one the other day. Torn up gas mask, wandering around on all fours spouting gibberish."
"A mutant?"
"No, a stalker fresh from the bar."

[shell flax]

Probably a Poltergeist

[last saddle]

wasnt throwing shit at me tho

[inland sage]

OH POLTERGEISTS
Have you killed all of the poltergeist variants? There's normal, electric, and fart poltergeists.

[shell flax]

Fire too

[last saddle]

pretty sure i have yeah

[inland sage]

And controller?

[shell flax]

You killed any Buerers? Short dudes

[last saddle]

w.e ill kill em all again and find out lol

yeah both

[shell flax]

Rodents and Rat swarms?

[inland sage]

Did you kill rats?

[last saddle]

for sure

[inland sage]

Not the big guys but the swarm of little ones that tries to eat you

[last saddle]

yup

[inland sage]

Do zombies count?

[shell flax]

Yes, they’re mutants

[inland sage]

Did you bag a deer?

[last saddle]

yup

[inland sage]

There are other ones that can spawn aside from the one in that quest, in case the quest one didn't count

[last saddle]

just one tho that was part of a quest

[inland sage]

Lemme pull map

[last saddle]

the pseudogiant i killed was also part of a quest so if thats the case then that makes sense

[inland sage]

It's the uhh

You know the walled in spot with the helicopters near Duga?

[last saddle]

with all the broke down bvehicles?

[inland sage]

You can find a deer there.

[last saddle]

alright ill take a look

[inland sage]

Eep time

[last saddle]

rpm 74 ammo box

thats coming with me to the final mission

[vapid galleon]

RPM is

[shrewd needle]

Someone recommended that to me, but I've not been much for horror.

[vapid galleon]

Can you guys mark on map where is Duty in Stalker 2 https://discord.com/channels/504587323577729024/524231625039413249

[wintry pumice]

Then watch Scary Movie. I have heard it's very scary

[shrewd needle]

I'll pass, thank you.

[inland sage]

Wait a minute is your name not amnesia because of amnesia the dark descent

[cobalt fiber]

The bunker sucked

Not as much as rebirth tho

[terse ravine]

i still laugh from the clown scene in the scary movie 2

[cobalt fiber]

Bunker just wasn't the same with the generator and felt like they were trying too hard to introduce new mechanics

When the dark Descent and the simplicity of that game was what made it what it was

[wintry pumice]

You will love it, it's so scary

[cobalt fiber]

Soma 2 when

[shrewd needle]

I got standards, you know? 😆

Also, give me psychological over jump-scares/gore/vore nonsense. Something that plays with the mind rather than be literal Doom 3-like horror (though Doom 3 had excellent psychological horror as well).

[covert dew]

I havent touched a stalker game in like 4 years, the last i played was clear sky, but damn stalker 2 feels so much more scarier. Like im constantly on edge

[shrewd needle]

Why?

[covert dew]

I think its cuz the graphics jump is so big

[wintry pumice]

Psychological horrors are boring

[cobalt fiber]

[covert dew]

And the game lighting at night feels much darker

[shrewd needle]

So...you've got the major skill issue of being highly uncultured...now I know. Shame, honestly. 😔

[cobalt fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-eeee-gif-24636179

[shrewd needle]

OK, that's point taken, but, uh...even in the originals, nights were almost pitch-black, except you had NVGs...now, there's no NVGs. Just a crappy flash-light.

Like, I played CS recently and travelling in the Cordon at night was literally a pain, even with the light. Having to clear out the Vehicle Station was just a massive nuisance.

[cobalt fiber]

@wintry pumice you are so uncultured

[covert dew]

There are nvg in the game files

But not in the physical game

[shrewd needle]

Not implemented in vanilla = practically the same as non-existent.

[covert dew]

Trye

[wintry pumice]

I have seen Monster, it was nice to watch and it was interesting for the time it came out but it's not really scary

[frigid hill]

theoriginalamnesia has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[cobalt fiber]

When they're planning to add cut content it's not the same as being non existent overall

[wintry pumice]

Who needs culture when you can enjoy eternally in the shining zone

[shrewd needle]

Monster? Not heard of that movie, NGL.

[wintry pumice]

An anime series. Very good

[cobalt fiber]

So uncultured

Monster is indeed very good

That's the one with the doctor right

[shrewd needle]

Not implemented in the current game, so...it's more like 'it doesn't exist till I can see it with my own eyes and use it myself'.

[shrewd needle]

Anime? Filthy weeb!

[cobalt fiber]

Monster was the first anime I watched start to finish funnily enough

Then I watched Cowboy Bepop

[wintry pumice]

This isn't your normal magical, sci-fi anime. It just portrays real world characters with no special power

[wintry pumice]

Still lives in my head..

[shrewd needle]

It's still anime... 😖

[wintry pumice]

Watch it, then judge

[shrewd needle]

I watched the Cyberpunk anime and could barely handle the art style, even though it had an interesting story (with a relatively contrived ending).

[wintry pumice]

Stalker anime when

[shrewd needle]

You deserve to be Whirligig'd.

[wintry pumice]

Haven't watched, looked too colorful

[cobalt fiber]

Cyberpunk one is shit

[shrewd needle]

Isn't that literally all anime?

Also, CP2077 is literally neon-drenched in so many places, it's not even funny. NVIDIA literally made a killing out of that.

[cobalt fiber]

Monster was far from colourful

[shrewd needle]

Fair, fair.

[shrewd needle]

Eh, it was decent...6/10, so not too bad, but I just can't handle the art style.

[cobalt fiber]

There's a specific reddit post I followed to try anime out when I was also the type of person to go ew anime

None of the shows on said list let me down

[shrewd needle]

Send post, I'll check them out if I can.

[cobalt fiber]

Start with Monster in the meantime ❗

[wintry pumice]

Anime don't all share the same style. All of them are a bit different depending on the studio and the artist

[cobalt fiber]

Question is do I or don't I book an officially endorsed Luke Combs tribute

One of the lads mates' mums from football wants to go with 😂

Mrs says okay but it's a hmm

[shrewd needle]

Call me uncultured, but I see almost zero difference between Pokemon/Beyblade/Digimon/Dragonball/CP2077/anything else.

[shrewd needle]

Take her with you.

[cobalt fiber]

Now that's just asking for a shit time

I went out on the lash the other night and she was whinging cos I was out till 2am

Proper bore

First time I've been out in years as well

Very nearly ended up in some random house for drinks up until sunrise 😬

[shrewd needle]

Imagine not being able to handle time with your wife. Major skill issue right there. 😔

[wintry pumice]

That definitely would have made for an interesting conversation

[cobalt fiber]

Considering we're planning a split I wouldn't say so

[shrewd needle]

Oh...that's, uh...that's very bad. 😔

[cobalt fiber]

More like

Can't take baggage to the shining zone

[shrewd needle]

I won't comment on any of that...but I'll hope it never happens.

[boreal coyote]

id thst where the ||50 series cards went|| too?

[weary hedge]

when patch

[weary hedge]

then same for games if i apply ur logic

[shrewd needle]

Wouldn't be too wrong, seeing as most modern games, opting for photo-realism, look the exact same.

Even more so with so many games going on UE5...like...same engine, same visuals, same Denuvo, same performance issues...

[gilded bough]

I hate when artifacts spawn outside game geometry, like below the floor and you can't get to them

[wintry pumice]

Today

[wintry pumice]

That's why it's called an anomaly

[gilded bough]

[weary hedge]

cap

ion see anything

GUYS THERE'S A 700 MB UPDATE IN SoC!!

[wintry pumice]

It's already out ||in the shining zone ||

[weary hedge]

WHY DID THEY REMOVE THE SCREEN MOVEMENT WHEN WALKING AND SPRINTING, WTF, IF THAT WAS BAD YOU JUST PUTTED IT AS AN OPTION, WHYYY

now i feel like in all brainrot industry games of 2023 and 2024 with almost no screen movement

[limpid cloak]

Properly finished the game and can finally safely join spoiler channels

That final room is such bs

[ocean palm]

Hello everyone from 🇫🇷

[crystal granite]

I can't even complete the game. During Down Below the part 'Return to the control unit' is bugged and despite me standing right in front of it, nothing progresses forward

I even tried moving around different parts of it and reloading a save. No bueno 😦

Dalin cursed me

[limpid cloak]

Ouch

[covert dew]

Bruh the first time i died i fell of a ledge going to zalissya😭

[sturdy verge]

for me was jumping house to house wanting to parkour lol

[crystal granite]

Bloodsucker in a cave when exploring. Turned out I needed to go down there the second time doing a quest for that dude hiding in a windmill. Squeak or whatever his name was

[gilded bough]

ledges, deep water, and sudden spikes of radiation are probably 95% of my deaths

I'm up to 70 or so on the death counter... sometimes you think you can make a jump but then you realize you were never meant to jump there

[limpid cloak]

I finished the game with 80 deaths total haha

[vapid galleon]

How can I inspect my weapon in Stalker 2?

[gilded bough]

sounds like you didn't explore enough

[limpid cloak]

Eh, it was over the course of a 105-hour playthrough with every region visited (although the achievement didn't pop)

I'll admit I didn't spend enough time to be very thorough with the Swamps, Burning Forest, Prypiat and Duga for various reasons

[inland sage]

Squint!

[sturdy verge]

that sounds about right, i think i had 180 deaths lmao most were 'intentional deaths' 😉

[crystal granite]

Wear it out and wait till it jams, you get to clear the jam and it shows you a good bit. Or attach/detach an optic or a suppressor you get an animation for that too

I like the detail on the Texan when you switch ammo types, Skif actually pumps put the shells instead of just magically inserting another 14 shells

[sturdy verge]

with the southern accent lol wait no thats nimble

[crystal granite]

I'd insert that Asian dude squinting at a small piece of paper but I ain't got GIF perms yet lol

[vapid galleon]

Thanks for the information. So how can I inspect my gun directly? Wasn't something like this added to Stalker 2?

[crystal granite]

Who here killed Squint and took his shịt after getting the artifact for him?

[crystal granite]

Nope, that's the only ways you actually see your gun fully. I'd wish for a Call of Duty style weapon inspection tho

[cobalt fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-cant-see-squint-gif-5056034

[crystal granite]

This! 😂

[rough island]

well i can't play the trilogy for some reason all three games give me motion sickness i don't know why no other games do that to me im glad i bought them i will tryto play them again soon HOC dose not do this so there's that etlest

[crystal granite]

Screen motion maybe? Or the way running is animated?

I haven't played them, so idk if they got motion blur or not, but try turning it off if they do have it

[cobalt fiber]

I feel for people who get motion sickness

[rough island]

maybe i just finished fallout 3 again like 2 days ago so i don't know if its the age of the game

[rough island]

i uswely don't but once in a while it happens

it could be the fov iv been playing high fov games alot lately so i could just be use to that and the change got to me

[cobalt fiber]

Yeah I can't remember noticing motion blur in the trilogy either tbh

Obviously you get that blur on ads sometimes but nothing major

[rough island]

and motion blur has never really been a issue for me

[cobalt fiber]

Yeah idk what it could be cos trilogy always seemed pretty easy on the eye

Doesn't have the daft filter that most games had in that era

Maybe you're getting psychological radiation sickness

immersion

[rough island]

i tried all three games and after about a hour of gameplay id get nauseous
(i knew i should have bought that geiger counter haha)

[proud minnow]

So what can we expect from next patch?

[crystal granite]

At this point we got better chances of beating Elder ring buttnaked with a stick on hardest difficulty than seeing the patch

[wintry pumice]

Hopefully less bugs

[crystal granite]

I wouldn't be surprised if they somehow break more stuff with this patch

[wintry pumice]

I'm scared of that too

[hoary crest]

What? You don't like the green filter in Fallout3 and the p*ss filter in NV?

Sounds like something a legionnaire would say

[wintry pumice]

I once had hallucinations stuck on me the whole time when I was in the red forest, I had decent psi protection but the hallucinations wouldn't go away

I even went to the doctor and he patched me up too but I couldn't sleep either . Finally I had to reload the previous save for the problem to go away. Not sure if zombification is an intended mechanic

[crystal granite]

I think the hallucinations bugged out that's all

[sharp sierra]

Anyone know when the next patch is due?

[cobalt fiber]

Ave to caesar

[elfin vine]

New stalker fan here.
I started with 2 and just began 1.
Seems 2 is missing quite alot of features

[pale fossil]

which ones did you notice first?

[wintry pumice]

Today

[sly sluice]

Is there any mod that will make npcs not see through bushes?

[hoary crest]

Not that I know of personally, might have to raise that as an issue to the dev team, it is super annoying tho

[sly sluice]

This might be the the worst part about combat for me

[sharp sierra]

Oh thank god hope it fixes my issue with the scar saw mill cutscene, I've just been doing side missions and exploring for ages so I don't want to loose it all.

[hoary crest]

Certainly up there for me too yeah, I can understand if you're wearing the Jounalist's Sunrise suit, or a Spork one, but yeah, not many of the others

[sly sluice]

Im sure you all experienced it, you're in a brushy area, you have no line of sight but they see you and start shooting

[hoary crest]

Tbh just avoid open areas like the plague at this point as a result of that, if there aint no building cover, its a no-go zone

Less of an issue in the Red Forest though weirdly, though thats prolly down to the number of trees

[sly sluice]

Yeah it's a "go through zone". If there are human enemies, have to run to solid cover

Or it works to run around like it counterstrike and get up close on them but I like when it feels more realistic

You're right it's mostly the brushy areas in lesser and middle areas imo

[hoary crest]

Also that stretch between the Slag Heap and the Cement Factory... ¬.¬

Basically just an open field

[sly sluice]

Thats around where I was just now

Tbh a "vision blocker" that is physically bigger than the brushes being added to them might be good

[inland sage]

...snuck a SEVA-D out of the arena and now I have 5 artifact slots

[sly sluice]

Im not really sure if brushes already count as vision blockers somehow and they just always happen to see a pixel of your foot

[hoary crest]

That does seem to be the case with the larger vehicles when it comes to using them as cover, they can see your feets

Which like... actually makes sense, unlike being able to spot a bush-wookie 50meters away

[maiden grotto]

When in compounds... not when you put in the field...

The other problem is, they see you, even if 0.0000001% of your little toe is showing

[sly sluice]

only sometimes

But thats more ok because they cant shoot my head and torso, but with a bush, they can

[hoary crest]

Yeah its a bit over the top, but I can at least justify that, people are perceptive of movement after all, we are natural predators

Though dense bush cover, much less so as there is much less in the way of clearly defined edges like you would see with something man-made

[crystal granite]

The detection is wild, aim is crazy and the penetration through cover doesn't help either. Bot AI needs a nerf in these aspects

[wintry pumice]

Scar just went to the shining zone, he will be back

[hoary crest]

Kinda hard to come back from having a .54R lodged in your dome, jus' sayin' 😄

[inland sage]

...is there an achievement for surviving an emission?

I mean, outside. Not inside a shelter.

[hoary crest]

Don't think so, you can't survive one without taking cover, mash all the heals you like, they won't save you

[wintry pumice]

That's not true, because you were hallucinating

[wintry pumice]

You're not Scar or Monolith

[inland sage]

They won't save you?

[hoary crest]

At this point its not unlikely that Skif is locked up in the madhouse an this whole scenario is a hallucination if we want to go that far 😄

[inland sage]

At what point in the emission do you just instadie?

[hoary crest]

2/3rds the way through it deals so much damage you can't out-pace it

[inland sage]

Shutter Island?

How long do emissions last? What if you take vinca along with your medkits?

[hoary crest]

You can't survive it outside, an like a minute or so. Its also not dealing bleed damage, so Vinca won't do owt

Stand outside and you just fold from funny brain tickle

[inland sage]

Oh, it says it accelerates wound healing lol

[hoary crest]

Yes, wounds = bleeds

[wintry pumice]

Skif was never really good at making decisions because bro came into the zone to make money to get a new house even though the government offered it for free....

[inland sage]

He didn't want a new house, he wanted someone to blame.

Well. Akshually. We keep saying house. It was an apartment.

[hoary crest]

Tbh I think he just wanted to put a bullet in someone, I'd be pretty p*ssed off too if some kook scientist blew up my digs

[wide robin]

Anyone having the problem of not being able to play voice notes

[sly sluice]

The zone is for desperate people, if you have been in a bad situation you'll know what its like
Think about the people that leave their country to go volonteer in the war in ukraina

[wintry pumice]

Yup some have reported that. I suggest reporting that to #s2-support

[wide robin]

I did

[wintry pumice]

Yeah but he's not in desperation though, the gov did offer compensation but instead he ends up in the zone

[sly sluice]

There is also mental desperation
Idk where it said the government was gonna compensate him for free, though?
But even so if you know someone that had their house burn down, it takes a big toll mentally

[wintry pumice]

I believe Agatha said so

When you meet her for the first time in Sircaa

[sly sluice]

Yes, that's if you help ward they will buy skif a house yes

[crystal granite]

And yet you still decide to stay cause you need to see the experiment through

[wintry pumice]

No she says instead of accepting the compensation offered to the other tenants in the building, he instead came to the zone

The compensation was most likely offered by Sircaa due to their botched experiment

[sly sluice]

Nah I interpret it as a pittance, from government or insurance, so little that it won't matter.
If SIRCAA paid the people just like that it would be like admitting guilt. Skif didnt even know what happened at all

[inland sage]

Skif just wants to get in the zone

What did Skif do before he entered the zone?

[crystal granite]

Fought 3 years in a war

[sturdy verge]

sell artifacts after war

[sly sluice]

We dont exactly know, but agatha said he had no friends, no family and did risky part time jobs. (after military service)

[inland sage]

This one! He sold spent artifacts.

He sold spent artifacts and he lounged in front of his SkifSet(that's what he called his television).

[sly sluice]

Either way I think it makes sense, you have a risk-taking personality, maybe depressed and bored, going into the zone because you're desperate even if it's not economic desperation

[inland sage]

Even if they gave him a new place, it wouldn't be the same. That spot was home and it's gone, so now home is the zone.

[sly sluice]

You get to a point where you don't really care if you live or die, and maybe no one loves you, or you think that the ones you love might be better off with you gone. This is the mentality of people going into the zone, I imagine

[inland sage]

And the Shining Zone helps them all to realize they would probably rather go home than turn into a meat cloud in a funny floating blur.

[sly sluice]

Yes from the people I've heard talk about what it was like to have their house burn down, they said it was horrible to lose everything even if insurance paid out and they could pretty much get a home and items of the same quality again

[inland sage]

...speaking of anomalies, are they properly deadly in veteran difficulty?

It seems weird to watch NPCs get turned into chunky salsa from a wind anomaly only for Skif to just grunt and keep going.

[sly sluice]

Ah, im hungry now that you said chunky salsa

[inland sage]

Baklava

[civic relic]

Pretty sure stalker shoc wind anomalies killed u on any difficulty

[crystal granite]

Belochka

[sturdy verge]

he sold artifacts after the war to make some extra money and was always curious about the zone from hearing stories but never went and then had a reason to go after his apartment was kaput

[sly sluice]

Lets see if the coolong tower mission still makes the game crash 100% of the time

Tryhub... what a name

[civic relic]

What mission

[sly sluice]

" matter of honor", at cooling tower material depot
It worked

[civic relic]

I didnt know there was a mission at the cooling tower thats neat

[sly sluice]

It was fun. Its just that it crashed my game 100% in earlier patches

[civic relic]

I went there one time and had no idea what that big fire anamoly was i climbed up high as i could and didnt even find anything even tho there is a item somewhwere there and also an achievment that i missed too

I also had no idea what that tornado anomaly was in yaniv i played 1st playthru without looking anything up i wanted to find as much things as possible on my own

[sly sluice]

Me too, I just thought "wow pretty tornado", then later went there and got the cringehelm scream and didnt get anything

[waxen crescent]

What is the best ending to do

[civic relic]

Dude is there really no way to get ontop or inside the iron fortress in cooling tower area?

[waxen crescent]

On my second play through and wanna do a different ending

[civic relic]

Yo that was funny they added that little easter egg to the running gag scream thats in every tv show at some point

[sly sluice]

The monolith base? Its a mission area

[sly sluice]

I suppose I have a irrational disdain for it

[sly sluice]

Yeah so pick whatever you want for your first one

[civic relic]

Its a base for monolith? And bruh a mission too how come i never found all these missions bruh

[sly sluice]

Could you show me on map so I dont misunderstand?

[civic relic]

One sec im on mobile

[sly sluice]

You mean the big rectangular building with red on it, right?

[hoary crest]

Yeah its a mission area

You can get onto the top without the mission being active, but there isnt much up there, nor is it easy to get up to

[civic relic]

Called red fortress left top corner of map in cooling tower area i went and tried to climb it but could not figure it out

[sly sluice]

Yeah okay. You're not meant to, it's mission area

[civic relic]

How bruh how do u find these missions

[sly sluice]

Main mission

[waxen crescent]

What’s the best ending?

Also, how many endings are there?

[civic relic]

What? I beat the game once n mever got it

[sly sluice]

Which ending did you take?

[hoary crest]

4, and define "best"

[waxen crescent]

Personal opinion for best

And I’ve already done the ward ending

[wintry pumice]

All 4 are bad and supposedly not canon

[waxen crescent]

Ok kind of lame. there’s not a good ending Which ones should I do next?

[terse ravine]

just scar and ward ending are definitely not canon, both strelok or doctor ending could work as the canon ending, although i don't think any of them can be considered 'good' endings

[violet dune]

there is no good ending, its just ending

[inland sage]

You're not meant to? But I got up to the helicopter crash just fine.

There was a bit where I had to jump on a thing and then jump onto a ladder but it wasn't that hard

[violet dune]

dlc should be before any of these endings

and each dlc could add additional ending

in total would be 6 endings with 2 dlcs

[lethal crest]

Scar’s could be
Assuming he doesn’t automatically pull everyone in the Zone into “the Shining Zone”, they could be like the victims of the Poppy Fields

[last gulch]

heys guys

[violet dune]

this would mean dlc would have new protagonist

[sly sluice]

I mean we don't know, but to me strelok/loner feels like the most canony, game design wise
And it would be a cool twist for stalker 3

Strelok going from nemesis to protagonist to nemesis to friendly side character to nemesis

The story might be continued with a big time skip again, though

Is groza a soft air gun?

[drifting forge]

No?

[sly sluice]

Feels a bit like it

[hoary crest]

Im sure I've told you before, use Better Ballistics 😂

[indigo oriole]

Where patch

[sly sluice]

Im sure you have

[indigo oriole]

if the saves are multiplatform then someone can drop me few thing from console commands ?

[lavish marlin]

only issue with that ending leading into a sequel is that the stalkers will run out of resources like food, clean water, fuel, etc. stalkers are going to die out eventually with strelocks ending

[lavish marlin]

guessing you want the scopeless gauss rifle? lol

[inland sage]

...does he block off the zone from the rest of the world?

[lavish marlin]

yes

[inland sage]

So they'll have to like, farm

[lavish marlin]

try farming on irradiated poisoned land

[indigo oriole]

naah coupled mags for Kharod, SVU supressor and Saiga Drum magazine

[inland sage]

You seen where the mutant deer go?

[indigo oriole]

and maybe saiga blueprint

[sly sluice]

Well, it might not be 100%. Plus there's mutants and plants. It could be a metro 2033 type situation

[indigo oriole]

the worst part is that i wrote to gsc support about it and they didnt respond

[lavish marlin]

could be. not here to debate but i just dont see that ending as a great set up for a sequel. i think if anything project Y would be the best set up for a sequel

[sly sluice]

Or it could be about a group of resistance fighters figuring out how to break through

[sly sluice]

Right, it would have to change a lot

[lavish marlin]

i think a new story in a newly anomalous world would be interesting

[indigo oriole]

what gives u scopless gaus

[sly sluice]

Part of me wants expanded universe but it wouldnt really be stalker anymore

[lavish marlin]

final mission

[indigo oriole]

but is it any better ? For close combat i guess ..

[sly sluice]

SIRCAA gave me that expanded universe feeling

[lavish marlin]

totally. i also cant rly see them being able to recylce the zone again

[lavish marlin]

i prefer it over the scoped one. better for mutants

[sly sluice]

What I mean is like the plot of hzd for example

[weary hedge]

patch wasnt today, anyone that said it was today needs to have both sides of his pillow warm, im gonna unistall S2 and keep SoC🔥

[lavish marlin]

hzd?

[hoary crest]

I dont think it works like that..

[sly sluice]

Horizon zero dawn

[lavish marlin]

ooh thats fair. i think the best thing they can do is skip another 10 years and give us a new zone

[hoary crest]

To be fair, I was fairly impressed with the story of the first game, at least the bit about military AI going whacko with machines that feed on biomass

[sly sluice]

In the end I think large plot movements aren't important, just improve everything and tell really good personal stories about people (Like witcher 3 with the pan) and the game will be awesome

[hoary crest]

Creepy and probably not a totally unrealistic end to humanity

[lavish marlin]

true. thats one of my main issues with HOC is that everyone feels so bland. i would like real character development

event if its like a V and Jackie Welles type of story

[weary hedge]

im gonna report u all for off topic

[hoary crest]

Snitches get stitches

[sly sluice]

Right, in 2 they also has a lot of crazy stuff happening. I like the idea of the progressive world building. At at first, it's just humans living hunter-gatherer or medieval style, with robot animals, then it's all elaborated on.

[lavish marlin]

real shi

[weary hedge]

change ur name to fluffy floor

[hoary crest]

I did'nt play the second one myself, but its cool they expanded on the concept a bit

[lavish marlin]

im not going to do that.

[weary hedge]

bet

[patent heath]

Hey just asking about the arch artifacts

||What is the side effect of these 6 weird artifacts?||

[weary hedge]

if patch comes today and i like the changes i will change my name to G00mermaxer5000

[sly sluice]

stalker could be elaborated on in crazy ways, a part of me wants it, but again it wouldnt be stalker so much

[lavish marlin]

bottle and ball are the only useful ones IMO

bottle lets you carry considerably more, and ball absorbes damage

[weary hedge]

such creative names

[lavish marlin]

that said, i dont use either of them

[lavish marlin]

they are weird bottle and weird ball

weird water actually

[weary hedge]

oh that's so cool with weird

[lavish marlin]

[sly sluice]

"ball" Would have been a funny name

[inland sage]

Weird nut

[lavish marlin]

Ball

[sly sluice]

Quotation marks included

What if the zone started from another unknown force, it starts in streloks lockdown zone, but something epic happens and the zone basically breaks out over the whole world, it won't be duty vs freedom, ward vs. spark, it could be Nato vs. Rus. vs. China type deal

[lavish marlin]

The weird artifacts are so overrated honestly. 2 thunderberries, 1 compass, 1 hypercube and one liquid rock is all you need

[lavish marlin]

That’s basically one of the endings

[sly sluice]

I think all the looking up and trying to get them on purpose kinda ruins it

[lavish marlin]

Agreed. I was happy to naturally find them and figure out that is the best combo

real talk I just hope they add some cool dlc stuff because I thought it was insane that we can’t explore the CNPP and Generators in base game

[sly sluice]

But then the other unknown force will be elaborated on and fought against or joined, although, what I imagine would not work so well with one open world map, more like a CoD campaign where you go to newly zoned NY and shanghai with some crazy stuff happening. It'd be another game 😔

Maybe the zone gets so big we can use cars, though

Beta cars were fun.

[lavish marlin]

Imagine driving into a gravitational anomaly and just getting imploded

[sly sluice]

Sounds like fun

[lavish marlin]

Basically describing metro exodus tbh. I think that would work well for a spin off

[sly sluice]

Yes exodus also had this kind of expanding worldbuilding, I think it's cool

[patent heath]

is the Weird Nut good?
I mean, is says that the thing promotes rapid blood coagulation

[lavish marlin]

I think that’s a good idea too. Even if it was dlc I think that would be cool.

[sly sluice]

Could always do that and say it's 5 years after stalker2, then there is plenty of time to make another traditional stalker game in the in-between time

[lavish marlin]

Ehhh at the point in the game when you reach Yaniv you have so much bandages and vinca I feel like it’s not worth it

[weary hedge]

so Im starting stalker 2 and I am || rescuing Gloomy || and it sucks that I cant sneak on enemies

[lavish marlin]

Yeah stealth in this game doesn’t work

[weary hedge]

Im super quiet and I knifed one of them in a cave and when I came out they started shooting at me

[sly sluice]

Yeaaaah sorry sneaking is not so viable

[weary hedge]

stalker has been consolifieed

[lavish marlin]

It’s like sneaking in a fallout game. It’s there but it’s not rly developed

[patent heath]

yeah the bandage animation isn't helping when combat

[weary hedge]

Oh I hope it gets developed that would be swell idc if its in the hardest difficulty only.

[lavish marlin]

Yes I think even ignoring the sneaking stuff the game is extremely simplified for consoles

[sly sluice]

I think it's pretty good overall, buggy sure, but the weapon wheel shouldnt be on PC, thats peak console

[weary hedge]

would be cool to have mods that take off cache opening animations and pda opening animations

[lavish marlin]

The bolt isn’t going to make enough of a difference tbh. Just use cover pretty much

[weary hedge]

that weapon wheel though its not bad I honestly think its welcome

but yeah all in all it has console emphasis. But oh well its a great game so far!

[lavish marlin]

I think so. It’s definitely been simplified in the ways like no payed mercs as companions, new mutant looting, and A life being completely absent

[weary hedge]

ill just guns blaze these bandit bishes

[sly sluice]

Why would someone want it on PC? We dont need it to change weapons at all but the worst thing is we need it to change ammo, change to underbarrel etc. That would only be a thing on console games

[lavish marlin]

I never used the weapon wheel tbh. Rebinded the weapons to make sense so knife isn’t bound to 1 and it was fine after

[weary hedge]

we can do inventory no?

Ive only rebinded the lean to Q,E so far

[violet dune]

just use keybinds

[sly sluice]

You can change fire mode and change to underbarrel in the inventory, can you?

[lavish marlin]

Slows down the pace. I don’t want to go into the menu to do simple modifications

[sly sluice]

Oh, did they add them?

[weary hedge]

so you like the modifications wheel?

[lavish marlin]

That was one of the craziest things I’ve ever seen in a game tbh.. z and c is INSANE

[violet dune]

what exactly you want to achieve?

[sly sluice]

Im talking about the weapon wheel, not attachment "wheel"

[lavish marlin]

No I just want simple keybinds for it. Which is what we have. I don’t think the weapon wheel is a necessary addition

[weary hedge]

I never thought of z and c it was interesting but I kept having to cancel medkits with weapons wheel funnily

[sly sluice]

Change fire mode, ammo type and switch to underbarrel weapn

[weary hedge]

oh right

[violet dune]

fire mode and ammo type 100% have keybinds, i use it. never used underbarrel, but most likely have keybind too

[sly sluice]

Especially since the underbarrel state is often reset

[lavish marlin]

Exactly. Attachment wheel is fine because it doesn’t intrude on the game. They should’ve just had two wheels on either side for laser sight, underbarrel, fire mode

[violet dune]

for attachments i just use inventory lol

[lavish marlin]

You on pc or Xbox? It’s super simple and quicker on pc

[sly sluice]

Attachments is a non-issue. But a PC game probably shouldnt have a weapon wheel. It's just a adaptation for the lack of buttons on a controller

[violet dune]

on pc. on xbox i assume you need to press more stuff to do it

[violet dune]

yea, its easier to maintain 1 type of menu instead of 2.

[hoary crest]

Oh I've got one of those 😄

[lavish marlin]

Yeah. Overall I feel like stalker should not have been developed with console in mind. I was hoping it would be at least as expensive and Stalker Anomaly feels but it doesn’t even rly do that..

And like yeah I get that’s a community made mod pack but even still it just has basic features that make sense to be implemented

[sly sluice]

Okay you're right there is N for ammo type but I dont see anything for fire mode and underbarrel (Most important)

[indigo oriole]

many people are saying here that x thing doesn`t work like that and they are wrong every time haha . But u do u

[sly sluice]

Yes, but PC doesn't need a menu, just a keybind

[hoary crest]

Well you tell me, do you think the file system and save file type are the same on console and PC?

[violet dune]

they exist, just check keyboard keybinds in options

[weary hedge]

Fire mode is kinda hidden it’s either B or V in the weapon wheel

[lavish marlin]

Fr I’ve never heard of console and pc files being interchangeable

[sly sluice]

Yes but im being told there is a real keybing without the console wheel

[indigo oriole]

https://support.stalker2.com/hc/en-us/articles/27917364727057-Cross-platform-save

[weary hedge]

Oh my b I didn’t read the whole convo

[hoary crest]

(They're not)

[violet dune]

i used wheel menu for 30min in the first hour and never used again. 150+ hr without any issue

[indigo oriole]

yeah sure brooooo

[lavish marlin]

As my previous and very small amount of knowledge would lead me to believe

[hoary crest]

Bruh.. It means you can use the system gamepass uses to translate the save across platform. If you don't have the game on both platforms, you can't console anything in. Nor can anyone "drop" stuff for you because the game has no online component 😂 Tell us you're not even slightly tech literate without telling us you're not even slightly tech literate lol

[sly sluice]

I think there's ammo and firing mode but no underbarrel which seems annoying because it switches away from underbarrel automatically and the time you need it is when there's a bloodsucker on your rear

[lavish marlin]

I think he wants us to take his save file, use the console mod to get him stuff, and send him his updated save file back. Which still isn’t possible

[inland sage]

Well time to watch Chernobyl

[indigo oriole]

but thats exactly what i had on my mind from the start hahaha

[sly sluice]

Ammo and fire mode doesn't change on their own at least

[hoary crest]

Yeah at least not without him getting our login details, which noone is going to allow

[indigo oriole]

bro 1st it was a joke 2nd im not giving u my pass for microsoft account xD

[lavish marlin]

I don’t think it would need our details if it was possible. It would just be dragging and dropping his save file into our safe file folder. But again that wouldn’t be possible

[indigo oriole]

lol

[lavish marlin]

Doubt it was a joke u sound like u wanted us to use console to get u those items but im sorry that isnt possible

[hoary crest]

Noone cares mate, fact of the matter is, noone can give you stuff from the console commands onto a console save, and if you're going to run about with a stinking attitude when you're told it can't be done, noone is gonna even be inclined to try even if it was possible.

[indigo oriole]

nah it was a joke . How am I going to belive someone with my account xD

u cant be serious , and this whole discord server is a joke

[lavish marlin]

You quite literally made a list of what you wanted. I know you weren’t joking

[hoary crest]

Leave then, there is no doorman holding you in here.

[indigo oriole]

people are spitting jokes left and right

[deft coral]

I have it on my extra mouse buttons dunno about the keybind on the keyboard but they were there by default

[lavish marlin]

I second this

[indigo oriole]

dude i meant u alwayas joke here. Now I think u can join flateathers

[lavish marlin]

what?

[sly sluice]

Is there any counterplay to electro-poltergeists spawning electro anomalies right on you that I didnt think about?

[indigo oriole]

u can leave mr I dont know anything

[hoary crest]

🙄 Jesus H... the internet really does have some specimens on it dont it

[inland sage]

If I had a dime for every time Jared Harris hanged himself in a TV show, I'd have two dimes. It's just weird it happened twice.

[lavish marlin]

Understatement of the century

[inland sage]

Stay farther away or just really close is all I can think of. Kill them quickly?

[indigo oriole]

its alwyas like that here if u dont know something u always grief

[hoary crest]

Just gotta keep moving, same as the fire an toxic ones

[sly sluice]

It spawns very fast though. Not hard but costs medkits and suit

[lavish marlin]

everything costs medkit and suits😞

[sly sluice]

It doesnt seem he needs line of sight

[hoary crest]

Yeah they don't mess around for sure, though as with most mutants a policy of non-engagement is generally preferable if at all possible

[indigo oriole]

and there is ton of medkits

[lavish marlin]

True. U have nothing to gain from fighting a mutant in this game lol

[sly sluice]

Burers are pretty bad... But they need line of sight (counting the weapons in the area as them)

[inland sage]

Ahhhh that's not a good thing to hear in a nuclear control room. "Do you taste metal?"

[hoary crest]

Well, the mutant loot mod helps a bunch with that, but like there are still a few that just arent worth messing with, elemental 'gheists and bayun being two of the most obvious ones

[sly sluice]

Right, right, if It was just random I would leave. Weird how they didnt patch in mutant drops, cant be that hard

[lavish marlin]

what does the mutant loot mod do? Just items to sell I’m guessing?

[indigo oriole]

this game needs patch ASAP enemies sniping from 100m is a joke

[hoary crest]

P'much yeah, its just extra junk to loot

[hoary crest]

I kinda expect them too at somepoint honestly, just stability is what they seem focused on for now

[sly sluice]

Like stalker1, mutants drop some mutant parts you can sell

[lavish marlin]

Gotcha. I buy every exo suit and ammo I come across so I honestly don’t even need extra stuff to sell atp cuz I have so much backup stuff

I just wish stash managment was like fun. Would be cool if it was a big screen and you can sort stuff how you want

[sly sluice]

I dont have any econ problems it's plenty generous but the spawning electro anomaly on me that I cant dodge is just kinda sad.

[hoary crest]

I will say though, the Project Itemization mod having merged in a bunch of stuff that adds extra loot is great to play with as most of it is relatively light and still somewhat valuable so you're not running in the yellow or red constantly

[lavish marlin]

Those are rough

[sly sluice]

I mean I think its fun but yes I realized today how tiny the window is

[hoary crest]

There is a mod to fix that an all, can't 'member the name of it though but it makes it the same size window as the player inv'

[lavish marlin]

Yeah. Hopefully they can redo it to make it more like a tarkov stash or something

[indigo oriole]

Okey im sorry. Explain then how it works BOSS

[lavish marlin]

we both explained it to you

[sly sluice]

Burers were so frustrating at first. They have weapons with 5% durability and no ammo, yet they can shoot me pinpoint accuracy, infinite magazine, always know where I am, no jamming

[hoary crest]

We did, then you claimed you were "joking" so either scroll up, or go find something else to do, I'm not indulging you any further

[sly sluice]

But they're easy when you know to just shoot, run away to wait for shield to end, shoot. Did it with a pistol once out of spite

[lavish marlin]

Yeah not a huge fan of the balancing in this game. Headshots aren’t 1 shot even with higher calibers sometimes. Or every npc somehow having a busted up gun

[hoary crest]

Skif's pistol is actually OP vs Burers coz of the quest item flag, they cant' steal it off you lol

[inland sage]

Use the skifstol, they can't steal it because it's a quest item lol

[lavish marlin]

I get skif is military man but he can’t be the only stalker that maintains his firearm

[sly sluice]

The busted up part is in part a community problem though. They want it to be hardcore in their way

[indigo oriole]

i dropped mine while fighting burer

[sly sluice]

A lot of gamma fans that never really enjoyed vanilla stalker

[hoary crest]

It is fair to say the game probably wouldn't appeal to the masses if it was super hardcore, despite many of us preferring that. It just wasnt an economically sensible decision

[lavish marlin]

I feel like the community just wants realistic mechanics. I think gammas hardcore difficulty only appeals to a minority

There’s no way you could sell stalker gamma to an Xbox player

[indigo oriole]

mean BOSS

[hoary crest]

I dunno that its just that, its more that hardcore games have become much more popular in recent times than they ever have been before

[lavish marlin]

God bro take your leave already

[sly sluice]

Yes I agree it should be vanilla stalker not hardcoreMod9000

[hoary crest]

Eh, speaking to the wrong person lol, as an avid DayZ player i find it rather frustrating when I have to mag-dump a dude to drop him 😄

[sly sluice]

But they're in a hard spot where tons of people complained econ and repair was too hard (not considering repair is optional)

[inland sage]

Ah, the Pripyat fire department is arriving at the plant

[lavish marlin]

Used to be an avid DayZ player and I agree. I like the realism more. Early game stalker 2 SUCKS at that. I feel like I have to mag dump a viper 5 into a bandit wearing a leather coat

[sly sluice]

But i think pretty much everyone can agree less bullet sponge would be better

[hoary crest]

Well, they could have scaled a lot of stuff up depending on difficulty, but thats obviously a lot of work to do properly and they were clearly a bit strapped for time so its understandable they took the route that would appeal to more people, they're a business at the end of the day

[sly sluice]

SVD/SVU is good though. and ammo pretty plentiful

[inland sage]

Oof dude just picked up graphite from the reactor core

With his hand

[lavish marlin]

True but an AK should in theory have as much stopping power to a human as an SVD on account of bullets being bullets

[hoary crest]

Legit, first mods I installed were ones to change incoming/outgoing damage

I want to die in one or two shots, and for the enemies to suffer the same lol

[lavish marlin]

Haven’t rly done any modding. I beat the game in the first week so now my guns kill stuff fast but the early to mid game was painful

[lavish marlin]

I want to die in 1 or 2 shots but with how the enemy AI is I seriously could not deal with that kind of damage.

[inland sage]

Early to mid game generally is painful, until you get better armor

[hoary crest]

Yeah doing a vanilla playthrough first is the move for sure, though I recommend Better Ballistics if you wanna go down that route, makes all the guns viable all the way into endgame, its also compatible with the Better Gunfights mod (makes enemies a bit less aim-botty, though they're still accurate ofc)

[lavish marlin]

I hate fighting enemies in the dark because they have aimbot on me, a lone stalker with his headlamp off, and I can barely see them

[sly sluice]

Well no, the 5.45mm round is significantly weaker, and they're trying to simulate armor penetration.
But my point is just it's a very good gun in the game when you have this problem

[elfin vine]

Realistic mechanics? Name 5 main ones.
And why do you feel the community as a whole yearns for these 5 things.

[lavish marlin]

I’ll check that out then. Honestly my bar isn’t that high. My fav stalker experience is stalker anomaly and I feel like that is perfectly balanced. If I can get HOC to feel like Anomaly gunplay I’d be happy

[hoary crest]

Not gona lie, I love that they had the balls to make sections of the game as dark as they did. So few games have proper darkness in any capacity an this was a breath of fresh air

[deft coral]

I still didnt finish the game cause im waiting for big updates like what i did with cp2077 (i only started playing it after 1.3)

[sly sluice]

"All guns viable through the whole game" Doesn't sound great, actually. The point is progression like in a RPG
But there's certainly stuff to do, especially boosting damage

[inland sage]

Well yeah, progression. That's what the gun upgrades are for, yeah?

There's a limit to how viable most of the guns really are though.

[lavish marlin]

One shot headshot, working cover (enemy cant see you through cover), I know mutants aren’t realistic but mag dumping 400 rounds into a chimera isn’t exactly fun or immersive, companions because you see everyone else but you travels in groups, and dynamic faction relations. Theres 5. And I think the reason the community would want these is because they were in previous titles in the series.

[sly sluice]

Enemies not seeing you though bushes and such would be great

[lavish marlin]

True I like the darkness but at least give me a decent flashlight LOL

[hoary crest]

Depends on how you look at it, I would argue that learning how to survive in a place that tries to kill you in a myriad of creative ways is its own progression, a gun is just a tool you use to interact with the world.

Throwing arbitrary numbers at weapons to justify progression works in extreme fictional settings, such as sci-fi ones, but in a game with realistic firearms? Not so much, bullets are bullets, and they tend to always be pretty lethal, generally without exception and the only "modifier" to that is barrel length and caliber

[lavish marlin]

I know it’s a weaker round but a bullet to the head is still going to hurt (kill) pretty bad weather it’s a 5.56 or a 7.62

Really the only weapons that shouldn’t be a 1 shot head shot to late game enemies is 9mm weapons

[jade ruin]

Hey friends. I’m kinda here to say goodbye.

After the release of HoC, I don’t really interact with the community anymore. It’s not the STALKER that I know and love. I really don’t like it. I’m autistic, and STALKER is my autistic hyperfixation. After delving into HoC, it just freaked me out.

I’m still a STALKER fan through and through, but I’m stepping away from this community.

I love you all tons, thank you for all the silly memories.

Please don’t be afraid to step into my DMs for a doctor’s visit♥️🦇

[sly sluice]

Yes there is the learning progression but I already have that for second playthrough. I think it's fun to start with some pretty crappy old soviet guns, that still 1-shot headshot and moving up and up to better ones. But SMGs and such weak guns should be more early game focused and not something endgame enemies have, and damage raised overall

[inland sage]

Well they shouldn't have Viper-5s, but what about the Integral-A?

[lavish marlin]

Wake up new copy pasta just dropped

[sly sluice]

Maybe as a sidearm but when they see you in the exo they should use a real gun

[inland sage]

3.6 roentgen per hour he says

[sly sluice]

What makes the least sense to me is the most elite enemies having a Buket S-2, should be a early game budget weapon

[lavish marlin]

I think smgs should be a valid choice throughout the whole game. The Zubr and more so the rat killer is a spectacular gun to use

[elfin vine]

Not great not terrible

[sly sluice]

While I think 3 headshots is too much I don't really agree, it's just taking away too much of the realism

[lavish marlin]

Real special forces use smgs 🤷🏻‍♂️ bullets should deadly no matter what caliber. It just depends on how dead you want the stalker to be

[sly sluice]

Special forces use them because they usually dont go against armored enemies, and they have to think about bullets not going through walls into other apartments and such

[hoary crest]

If Im honest, I feel like that would be better achieved through a more in-depth weapon durability mechanic, like for example, all the stuff early game is in sh*t condition, and works less effectively as a result, loss of accuracy, misfires potentially having it blow up in your hands, the jamming is there mind, but it needs to be expanded upon. Also make it so techs wont touch firearms below a certain durability etc

[sly sluice]

We have guys with exoskeletons to carry their heavy armor, but real world armor can already stop many shots of the pistol-tier ammo to where it would cause a flinch sure but not do any real damage

[inland sage]

It would be nice if weapon maintenance were a thing. If we could take a bit and take apart a gun and service it and put it back together.

We know Skif is capable of that.

[lavish marlin]

I think a good way to solve that issue is reduce the amount of exoskeletons lol. Theres WAYY too many in the game once you get past a certain point. Like in lore they were produced very sparingly and are experimental. It doesn’t make sense how seemingly everyone post duga has an exoskeleton

[sly sluice]

Okay, as a compromise, it could be fun if there was PDWs as "endgame viable smgs" with modern calibers, p90, mp7, etc

[inland sage]

They've had decades to work on streamlining exo production though, haven't they?

[hoary crest]

I could be wrong but aren't all the calibers in game still in use by various militaries?

But yeah, high-end stuff would be nice to have added, I would love an MP7 lol

[inland sage]

After a certain amount of time they have to be done experimenting.

[lavish marlin]

They could’ve but I don’t believe the abundance of them is actually explained in game. The novelty of them throughout the series is that they were rare but powerful. Getting an exosuit in stalker 2 didn’t really feel as rewarding as it does in previous titles

[hoary crest]

Nah, material science marches ever onwards which means smaller, more robust components etc etc, but I agree with the sentiment there should be a great deal less of them, both on enemies and avaliable to loot for players. Pripyat is goddamn full of them

[sly sluice]

Sure I think so, but mostly they have abandoned 9mm and .45 smgs

[lavish marlin]

And also they seem to be using the same type of exosuit as in the earlier games. I don’t think there has been research and progress done on them because there is no new exosuit designs. Even the NOSROG is absent from the game

[inland sage]

More exos made sense when they were using rubles, I think, because it was an incentive for people to produce them to sell them to people in the zone.

[hoary crest]

Aye maybe so, I can't think of many instances of MP5s and USG's etc being used in modern special forces these days, but I dunno about the calibers entirely, think there are a few sort of pistol cal' carbines an the like in use

[lavish marlin]

Or is that anomaly only

[crystal granite]

Somehow my game managed to unfụck itself, great. So for X7, can I keep using the Diamond exo, or do I need to equip the x7 armour, even though it's stats are worse?

[inland sage]

NOSROG sounds like an anomaly suit

Use the diamond. It's fine. I don't know what the point of the X7 suit is.

[lavish marlin]

I think it is

[hoary crest]

Use whatever you like, its of no consequence. I did the whole game with the ITSF armour lol

[sly sluice]

But whoever said there is too many exos, yes, at some point everyone has them for some reason. Like rookie village is rookies at first, but after some point, its exo guy village

[lavish marlin]

Fr. I think it’s so dumb how they give you some of the best items in the final mission and then never let you keep them without using mods

[crystal granite]

The IPSF have a good looking ballistic suit

[inland sage]

Well because the game ends.

[hoary crest]

It do be good looking yeah, though its a shame we never got the caped version, not that we could see it ofc, but we'd know 😄

[inland sage]

It would be nice if there were free roam after, but the nature of many endings prohibits that.

[hoary crest]

Didnt they confirm that some of the DLC would be post-story content? Which implies we might get back out into the world

[lavish marlin]

Doesn’t mean they can’t just start us back at our stash with our cool new games. Cyberpunk gives you the items you get while doing each ending after reloading the last save

[crystal granite]

Yeah it would be great

[hoary crest]

Like in the Skif ending, aint noone protecting him in the tube, so whats to stop someone coming along and hitting the "eject" button an sending him out into the Zone again

[sly sluice]

Saiga is already OP

[hoary crest]

That alone is why I kinda think that ending is gonna be the canonn one

[lavish marlin]

Ram is better

[hoary crest]

all the shotguns are OP lol

Even more OP with mods that give them a realistic spread 😂

[inland sage]

Until you're fighting 2 cats and your cracker keeps jamming

And then you run out of medkits and a bloodsucker joins in

[sly sluice]

Dont think so? it has some more ammo but it doesnt matter when the mutant dies in 5 very fast shots from the saiga and reload is much faster?

[hoary crest]

TOZ supremacy 😄

[lavish marlin]

Probably right too. Despite what happens with the zone, it seems the most optimistic compared to the other endings

[lavish marlin]

Ram kills bloodsucker in 2 shots

[sly sluice]

g36 drum mag not being available anywhere makes me more sad than the ending stuff

[lavish marlin]

And similar fire rate

Yeah the reload is slower but I wouldn’t use it to fight humans. In theory by the time you have to reload the threat should be gone

[crystal granite]

Criminal

[sly sluice]

Im just gonna spawn it in again.

[inland sage]

OH HE SAID IT
HE SAID THIS IS OUR MOMENT TO SHINE
IN THE SHINING ZONE

[hoary crest]

I wasnt even aware it had a drum lol

[lavish marlin]

Shining zone worst ending idc

[hoary crest]

Or is it the same one that the AR gets?

[elfin vine]

Stalker 1 blows 2 away

[lavish marlin]

Yes

[elfin vine]

Vanilla

[sly sluice]

If only you knew how bad things really are. https://i.imgur.com/pai58HM.jpeg

[crystal granite]

I run the texan and it kills both suckers and humans well enough

[lavish marlin]

Texan is goated. Always running it over the Saiga

I normally reserved shotguns for mutants personally. It does melt humans well enough tho

It’s just by the time you get the ram or Texan you’re dealing with large groups on monolith (more than 14)

[sly sluice]

Slugs destroy

[crystal granite]

I use the Texan when the humans get too close. Otherwise, I use the Dnipro with a 4x

[lavish marlin]

I like using the MK14. Whatever it’s called in this game

[crystal granite]

Wish I could slap an ACOG on the PKM tho

[inland sage]

The Texan is nice, but is it worth the extra weight when you could just upgrade a normal Ram-2?

[lavish marlin]

Dnipro is pretty good tho

[sly sluice]

mk14 needs a buff imo

[crystal granite]

I used the Lynx and the Whip, then switched to the Gauss

[sly sluice]

But more importantly need a proper 7.62 nato battle rifle as a end game option (Like scar or modernized g3)

[inland sage]

Whip is nice, good usability.

[crystal granite]

G3

[lavish marlin]

Whip is pretty good yeah

[inland sage]

NO GIVE US A SCAR FOR SCAR

[lavish marlin]

Same with the unique NATO sniper. The one with a collimater sight

[sly sluice]

It would be a expensive end game option