the confederation is really more powerful than the resistance?

[wide cobalt]

Overall, is slightly more durable and damage than , it is lore accurate. However, not because of that "slightly more powerful" makes the Confederation have a higher win rate than the Resistance.

[tawny dune]

really? what makes the confederation win. more battle than the resistance?

i mean look

1 con 2 con 3 res4con5con6con only 3is res

[wide cobalt]

Likely they prefer to be a part of the army.

Besides, is easier to play, while needs good APM to maintain and control the army.

[tawny dune]

this means im. right confederation are more powerful and more easily to. control

but

i like to be honest

if you play your cards rights as resistance you will win

but i have 1 questions about the resistance

I've heard of a thing called volunteers? of something like this i heard it give you more solder and resources? to be honest I do not know anything about this

[wide cobalt]

I believe that is a feature only in Campaigns.

[tawny dune]

oh?

but why not. in pvp?

i heard you. go to village and take volunteers it will be great help. to resistance

anyway i still like this game a lot

[wide cobalt]

For the sake of fair PvP gameplays, villages give the addtional infantries while the doesn't have anything to reinforce.

[tawny dune]

so both have nothing?

[wide cobalt]

Yes, as they should.

[tawny dune]

even resources?

[wide cobalt]

Yes, the village should give nothing for both sides in PvP.

[tawny dune]

yes its unfair to give sides more Power but in the other side even if resistance not good(but it still s thegood guys) guys they will still (resistance) and resistance mean local support yes confederation more powerful no problem they have more technology but resistance should at least have the people to help no need to solder or resources but people should give the resistance something

anyway I'm going to go

[fleet maple]

@tawny dune
Confederation Is more durable
Resistance has more firepower,
speed,range and cheaper

In terms of land/ Navy

But in Aviation Resistance is more durable than confederations Aviation and confederations Air has more speed

[drowsy quail]

Powerful data and quality, as well as unparalleled air power, make it easier for the alliance to win compared to the rebels.And the only advantage of the rebels is their mobility and versatility.
This means that the rebels need to use a large number of unit combinations and complex operations to compete with the alliance.

And RTS games are difficult, not so many players can play the complex faction of the Rebel well.

[fleet maple]

Actually Rebel Players winrate Was better even Against Capp Mixen,Resistance is the Only Enjoyable Than Confederation

[limpid sand]

It’s a matter of upgrades, skill (player and skill cards)

[limpid sand]

More like skill issues i assume

[raw linden]

yeah you right,if play as resistance you must full control on unit and combination with other units,like me,jcp,mole,leviathan,hawk,and albratos,sometime its mammoth to attack they factory building

[fleet maple]

We can Agree that confederation need a bit of buff to compete

[snow knoll]

Hahahaha what a funny joke bro, I can't stop laughing😂😂

Confed has been recieving buffs for past 5 updates while resistance keeps getting nerf

You wanna know why in top 10, 7 are confederation? Because resistance is unplayable at this point

You play FFA4 in any league it's either 4 confeds or 3 confeds one resistance

@raw linden @fleet maple Just to summarize things up:

Assaults beats rifleman and get containers when the speed of rifleman is useless because of continer collecting system

Cerberus is a 1 man army he alone can everything and grantee the first big container, even if resistance makes army to kill him, he will at least kill double his worth of resources from enemy

[raw linden]

wasp can handle cerberus in 1v1

[snow knoll]

hammer is faster stronger and surprisingly costs less cp, its literally the nightmare of resistance

[fleet maple]

@snow knoll u free?

atleast 3mins

[snow knoll]

Barely in 1v1

[fleet maple]

Barely if lucky

[raw linden]

but if you jaguar,hawk and mole ready,they hammer can do anything else

[raw linden]

kepp attack while moving

[snow knoll]

Just woke up lemme get my daily basics

[snow knoll]

Bro you are trying to stop hammers with 3, tier 3 units

And a hero

[fleet maple]

When seraphim exist

4 hawk wont kill it fast it will literally murder those Jags

[raw linden]

ouh ya,and some mine anti-tank

[snow knoll]

ah good you mentioned that

resistance has lots of extra features

mines

sea mine

fog

submarine

they are supposed to make advantages if used properly right?

but they dont because they are either easily countered or so not effective that their existance change nothing

any confed play with brain knows to move a fortress near a mine or tells his units to force fire where mines might be

same goes for sea mines with deltas

fog does absolutely nothing to your units, any confed player can either move cyclone on top, use thor to bomb, or force fire it with zeus or torrent

in all 4 senarios fog is useless like it never existed to do anything

same definatly doesnt apply to shield

shield is inevitable, its absolute you cant do anything about it... you have to kill shielded units 1 by 1

[limpid sand]

Go train nub @snow knoll

[snow knoll]

no

[limpid sand]

i said go train

[snow knoll]

you wanna lose ?

so be it

[limpid sand]

yesn't

im not afraid of losing xd

[snow knoll]

oh its not updated

[limpid sand]

@snow knoll go im online

[snow knoll]

you have to wait a year bro

need to use VPN to update it from google play

[limpid sand]

ok

[snow knoll]

[tawny dune]

ok ok im. back

anyone here

I demand to. give resistance buffs

because the resistance are ready really really really powerless comparison to. confederation

[fleet maple]

It needs to be nerfed Trust me or buff confederation

[tawny dune]

are you serious?

[fleet maple]

Yes

i mainly play resistance

[tawny dune]

what really why nerf?

please

look. at the confederation

and look. at this

1 con 2 con 3 res4con5con6con and even 7 and 6 con

3 only

[fleet maple]

Controls the entire map Confederation wont leave its position Basically take every container leave a few for confederation also Takes the big container Dominate in every tournament@tawny dune

@tawny dune check the winrate

[tawny dune]

winrate?

[fleet maple]

78
78
81
73
63
55
56?

Resistance often wins Every tournament

Skirmish Ai

like 95% of the tournaments

[tawny dune]

?????????????????

mmmm

[fleet maple]

@tawny dune
You havent played For a Very long time

There's a time that For a year or so Confed Didnt get Any Tour wins

[tawny dune]

than why the top 10 have maybe 3 res and other con

[fleet maple]

@tawny dune
Spamming Pvp Exist Matching against an Infantry spammer Exist and Ai Exist And +5 stars Exist

On premium

if You havent played for a Very long time + play in high ranks
You dont know anythint

[tawny dune]

i will be honest its right res can control map

but

its stll con are more powerful

i mean

[fleet maple]

Quantity vs quality who do u think wins?

Res is cheaper

faster

[tawny dune]

but

[fleet maple]

I can Destroy 3 Assaults And Overwhelm it

with 6 Rifleman in the scouting time

[tawny dune]

if con if they development himself you know who. will win

[fleet maple]

They can call backup but it will be too late because They are too slow

[fleet maple]

The Question is If The Confederation developed it slef

itself*

[tawny dune]

yes?

[fleet maple]

As i said dominate the map = More resource

More Resource means more development

What seems to be the problem?

Most likely Resistance is 2 steps Ahead from the confederation

[tawny dune]

really?

[fleet maple]

Like for Example You have 6 Zues i have 10 Jaguars already🤣🤣🤣🤣

• chameleon

[tawny dune]

really

6 zues?

and 10 jag?

who will win?

[fleet maple]

Jaguar

ofc

The overwhelming number

Upgrade also Matters

[tawny dune]

no

[fleet maple]

Then i wont Be Responding to People Who doesnt Know Reality How Imbalanced Resistance is As a resistance player itself

[tawny dune]

Quality is more important than number, my friend

[fleet maple]

They dont believe that Alligator is More dangerous than vikings due to the fact the one Wrong move from the viking player, Its all Over

[tawny dune]

i mean yes 10 jag will win against 6 zues but

[fleet maple]

I also forgot to mention Porcupines and Chameleon

but Force firing against a Max chameleon is a good luck

[tawny dune]

you maybe have point here

[fleet maple]

Ah yes i also forgot to say in a good number

I can also have Aviation to come into the Party 🙂

[tawny dune]

but

con solder and res solder who will win?

[fleet maple]

@tawny dune Confefeartiob

[tawny dune]

yes

[fleet maple]

Always play on Quantity

[tawny dune]

the same in vehicle

con vehicle or res vehicle?

[fleet maple]

Tbe main reason why resistance player wins because When starting a Game Con has 3 Barracks and spawn 3 assault after the Assault split to scout The assault may encounter 2 Rifleman Along the way then who Win?

[fleet maple]

con

[tawny dune]

yes

[fleet maple]

But the main Idea is will the confederation player has the resources to fight?

[tawny dune]

to be honest

con can't take risk but resistance

[fleet maple]

i can have 3 times the number Against ur Unit

[fleet maple]

We destroy and Conquer the map

Res always take it

No matter what

And Later I know You will complain about caiman vs Delta
Machinegun vs cannon
Caiman Can snatch Every container In the sea leaving confederation a few, Ill just make a Naval platform so we dont get destroyed by delta
since viking has No counter to aviation i will use Air then 🙂

[tawny dune]

but

[fleet maple]

So confederation = Bankrupted while i have fun 🙂

[tawny dune]

but

with Great Quality

[fleet maple]

Even in real life because Quality wins in 1v1 But Quantity can overwhelm The Quality

[tawny dune]

and yes con solder can kill resistance

and take resources

[fleet maple]

What?

Nevermind I wont reply Again

[tawny dune]

hehe you have to say this con are more powerful

mmmmm

sorry

again

1 con2res 3and 4 con 5 res 6 res and 7 res 8con 9 and10res All under 12 con

[limpid sand]

[limpid sand]

Nah just wait until tournament almost ends

resistance is better for me

[tawny dune]

?

[limpid sand]

They overwhelm confeds with their skills

I had a hard time fighting resistance ngl

[tawny dune]

your name is @limpid sand?

[limpid sand]

Cuz of their speed

[limpid sand]

yes

[tawny dune]

so you like hammers?

[limpid sand]

Doesn’t mean that

[tawny dune]

?

ok

[limpid sand]

I spam whatever that works

[limpid sand]

I lose a lot of times to good resistance players too

[tawny dune]

but you have to play your cards rights

[limpid sand]

they overwhelm hard. Lost to a r9 because he claimed too much rss, as a r11

And my unit upgrades are max

[tawny dune]

yes yes

[limpid sand]

Used to get my ass kicked by @fleet maple

his infantries are good, plus the speed which he deploys.

[tawny dune]

?

[limpid sand]

They have 90 speed when gold boosting

[tawny dune]

oh yes

gold boost

[limpid sand]

Compared to confed’s 79 or smt

[tawny dune]

and you mean what is this?

[limpid sand]

And caimans have dfly speed

[limpid sand]

Yes. They overwhelm with the speed which they can capture resources

[tawny dune]

mmm

mmmmmm

[limpid sand]

And more resources = deploy faster

[tawny dune]

but

[limpid sand]

So actually get gud for once

Instead of complaining here

[tawny dune]

you. need to have 3× member to kill con

or

[limpid sand]

You don’t need to have that much

[tawny dune]

play your cards rights and get the right solder

[limpid sand]

JCP exists

Maxed chameleon = good luck forcefiring

[tawny dune]

mmm

you know what

[limpid sand]

And the thing is: as a confed you have to guess where the jags are

[tawny dune]

everyone right

[limpid sand]

inside the fog

[tawny dune]

resistance are powerful too

[limpid sand]

Unlike vs zst which you are guaranteed to hit the correct targets as a resistance

[tawny dune]

but still con. are powerful tool too

[limpid sand]

Also as an added bonus: def towers will never hit you inside fog

Unless a cyclone is above

Or a flamer is inside

[tawny dune]

mmm

anyway i dont play confederation that much

so maybe i dont know who is the best

[snow knoll]

Bro you hit zeus with shield and enemy zeus can easily hit Jaguars inside fog

Thanks to devs, the bullet is no hidden inside fog so you can literally see where bullets are being shot from

[tawny dune]

man

im just going to play the game

and change my strategy

[limpid sand]

True

But u have to learn

To see it

[raw linden]

only need 8 jaguar to destroy 6 zeuz,and only need 6-7 jaguar to destroy 6 zeuz if jaguar with max or high upgrade mole

[raw linden]

yeah, aligator its high damage,only for 2 shot,and more durabilty,but viking him more weapon,3 plasma barrels and 2 torpedoes

[fleet maple]

Yes,i know But no one knows this fact that One wrong move on the sea player he lose vs Alligators

[snow knoll]

thats the problem bro

low rank confeds are noobs

lose to most things

hell you can beat them with 20 riflemen

then they complain resistance is imba

and devs nerf resistance

not knowing that high rank confed know every thing they hit mines and also hit units inside fog

they are unbeatable

and devs nerf resistace and make things worse

thats not even funny any more

the dude move his entire army on mine field and instead of bringing fortress or hit the ground or go through a diffrent path, he keeps going deeper in mine field and lose his entire army and complains

he f**cking complains

mine are now nerf soo much that a zeus can pass 10 mines and have half of his hp left

they costs twice as before

its outrageous

🤬

[fleet maple]

Theres a reason why the moment sopra saw A fortress they send hawk and if vertex tries they will meet Uncle Porcupine or hawks Already turned And will Go head to head and konfa Lose more

[snow knoll]

in that time of battle 4 torrents shoot mine field 2 times its completely cleaned

[fleet maple]

Yes but Hawk will likely Trade

[snow knoll]

and typhoon exists

[fleet maple]

Meanwhile Hawks were paper Before but also good

Splash damage is imba

[snow knoll]

these things are beast when sieged

[fleet maple]

bait 2 flies

and 8 hawks will clean

If you Scrambled jets its better

[snow knoll]

had enough playing vs @limpid sand

its tactics man

[fleet maple]

Assuming that Vertex wont even one shot them

And due to the fact that Vertex will Fly past From hawks U can escape and use porcs as Air cover

Which worked well

[snow knoll]

in our battle he moved a cyclone to scout me but knew i will send hawks so 20 vertexes was moving behind cyclone and when i showed up he attacked all my hawks

its strategy

[fleet maple]

Yup but It favored sopra befote

You cant do anything against mines

[snow knoll]

if resistance do that and confed player cant make an counter action its condamned to lose

[snow knoll]

its 2 hit of zeus

[fleet maple]

You may detect But Theres no way You could win

[snow knoll]

1 hit of torrent

they easily get destroyed

[fleet maple]

Yes but The danger / risk they will receive

Besides

Shield was Terrible

1 salvo of jags 1 zues ded

4 hawks can kill a zues

2 salvo*

[snow knoll]

and so does 2 vertexes or 2 thors

it applies to confed avia as well

[fleet maple]

Both bomberd were trash

Except alba

It is imba

Must be nerfed

[halcyon dirge]

If both faction players are complaining about balance then the balance is fine

That is confederation players crying that resistance is powerful

And resistance players crying that confederation is powerful

So everything is balanced

[fleet maple]

@halcyon dirge Agree🤣🤣

it is balanced and everyone still complains

[snow knoll]

bro thats the problem im seeing right now 8 albatross must bomb a place 2 times to kill ZST but 4 thor are enough to remove JCP

you think albatross is imba man

he is so slow and weak

[fleet maple]

Alba are meant for buildings

Before also u would not lose all alba Because sometimes vertex walk past to it

[snow knoll]

they get shreaded by vertex in pieces

[halcyon dirge]

Thor is turtle as well as alba

[fleet maple]

Then albatross imba

[snow knoll]

same doesnt apply to thor

because thor is faster than hawk

[fleet maple]

It does

[halcyon dirge]

Proof it

[snow knoll]

and hawk is snail

[fleet maple]

@snow knoll before it wad proven alot of times that All Alba wont die

[halcyon dirge]

No

[fleet maple]

In Medium maps but in large yes

Bcause Vertex walk past to them

[snow knoll]

if you just tell them to hit it but micro them and see they hit them 2-3 timesjust

[snow knoll]

yes

[halcyon dirge]

Hawk speed 372

Thor 330

[fleet maple]

Yup,but u wont lose everything
Besides have porcupines🤣🤣
Alba was 400 before or smt

[snow knoll]

gimi a picture

[fleet maple]

@snow knoll roles exist

[snow knoll]

where

[halcyon dirge]

@snow knoll

[snow knoll]

you hawk is more upgraded

18/22

[halcyon dirge]

That's max speed

Noob

[snow knoll]

my sure those 2 ups will make thor go brrrrrrrr

[halcyon dirge]

🤦‍♂️

[wide cobalt]

That's max speed, I can confirm that.

[snow knoll]

resistance imbaaa hawk should be slower

[wide cobalt]

Change missiles on Hawk to mini-nukes as an exchange will be good

[snow knoll]

barracuda send nuke missiles

but seriously what its gonna be? resistance is tactic based faction instead of brute force confed... mines deal damage if you intentionally move on them and also fog is imba if you move inside it instead of hitting it, these things are not that much of problem in high rank but still they got nerfed very bad, chameleon has lower radios and mine deals 0 damage even without shield. i personally think maybe devs should have nerfed them in lower ranks not all the ranks...

[limpid sand]

cringe name

[halcyon dirge]

Yours is more cringe

[raw linden]

fr

[raw linden]

calm bro,but you say was real

[tawny dune]

IDK who is the best sometimes i said resistance is best and sometimes the confederation i mean it depends on strategy

[fleet maple]

But majority of the times Tournament Requires map Control so its better to play as Resistance

other confeds ignore It unless they Have strong heroes

[stiff badger]

^

But that somehow makes playing confed a challenge?

[tawny dune]

i think i made fighting here

mmm

[snow knoll]

yes

[tawny dune]

sorry about this

[tawny dune]

you know what i have suggestions

but its bad idea i know that but i will try

so first i suggest to nerf resistance but at the same time its buf how? i like to suggest something depends on story what story we have resistance and confederation the confederation have better Weapons and buildings and even technology because you know he is confederation and resistance dont have really anything but still he is resistance of course some people will support him because they they protect the poor people: sorry for this but i need to tell you: so my suggest is this

1. all resistance unit will. take nerf (dawngrade)
   2 resistance unit will be. more weak
   now its the time for buf(rework)
   1add now building for resistance (black market)
   2 add now resources only for resistance red resources( it can onlybe take from.village confederationcan can Prevent this by destroy it

3the resistance will use the black market to remove the downgrade and add now upgrade to resistance how Explanation example?
first resistance need black market and red resources + normal resources to do upgrade in black market example resources infantry will have only 1 weapon and its really weak but with upgrade from black market they will have Grenade and they can choose to have anti infantry Grenada anti vehicle Grenada or smoke Grenada and only choose 1 of them than they can make it strong enough to kill confederation
oh Too long and impossible i know

[raw linden]

black market just for who can buy it,no all resistance had money to buy something in black market

[fleet maple]

No, we do not like those suggestion
the Burst of resistance is Already strong
Resistance > damage
Confederation > Durability

[tawny dune]

@fleet maple ok i. know its bad idea after all

[stray island]

Even though the developer's skills are terrible, his account is a top profile. But what? In the face of such a federation, the resistance is still like a thin paper, which can be broken at a poke.

You can think about what the average resistance player would go through. Very bad gaming experience.

[halcyon dirge]

taking Justpinka into balance is a bad idea xD
he is still training + he ended up in a 1x2

[limpid sand]

[glacial niche]

@fleet maple @snow knoll

[snow knoll]

[snow knoll]

bro thats most of resistance players, God players like treff or tracie are very few that do the impossible

players that can dodge thor bombing and solaris ability and beat everyone are few, that right there is the average game play of resistance you can expect from anyone which is 100% lose for them unless confed player makes a mistake so badly so fatal that he literally deserves to lose

[stiff badger]

Or confed player just spams heavy assault

And the resistance spam Grenadier back

[snow knoll]

yeah its obvious bro every time i see confed makes assault i do my contracts, doing that is a disrespect really, i dont play that game when people does that

i muk them

[stiff badger]

Loll

What rank are you?

[snow knoll]

late 17

[stiff badger]

Oh

Oh well

[snow knoll]

but ive been playing for 5 years now

[stiff badger]

You don't know how much people love heavy assault/grenadier here at rank 11/12

[snow knoll]

have 4 accounts and had a rank 15 account which got reseted

[stiff badger]

Wow

[snow knoll]

in fact i know

i have 3 acount in that rank

[stiff badger]

I played like 4 or 5 years ago, but then i quit, I came back like 1 month ago

[snow knoll]

what rank ?

[stiff badger]

I'm r12

[snow knoll]

you reseted you account ?

[stiff badger]

No, I just lost it

[snow knoll]

thats sad bro

[stiff badger]

But that account was noob anyways

The intelligence of myself five years ago is stupid

I have come a bit further since then

[snow knoll]

its actually better now like a rank 20-22 account isnt something wow or mind blowing

its just rank

[stiff badger]

Yeah lol

[snow knoll]

its the experience that you know the game in all ranks

that matters

[stiff badger]

Want to go training?

Later

[limpid sand]

@stiff badger training

[snow knoll]

btw whats the platform its been streamed ? i wanna get codes and troll him

[snow knoll]

what rank 11 ?

[stiff badger]

You said you couldnt play.-.

[snow knoll]

he is 11 too

confed

[limpid sand]

I can’t sleep

Which is ironic

For my name

[stiff badger]

[limpid sand]

Sleeping hammers can’t sleep

[snow knoll]

sleepingn't hammers ?

[limpid sand]

💀

[west elk]

Using the top players as examples does not mean anything. Neither faction is overpowered than the other. This is simply a matter of how long these players have played, nothing in comparison to their win-rate & style of playing

[limpid sand]

done

[stiff badger]

And skill

[snow knoll]

i have rank 12 confed and rank 13 resistance, which one ?

[west elk]

Stars will accumulate if you are good at the game or not, simply after a win and etc

[stiff badger]

Ok i gtg for 20 mins

[limpid sand]

Skill rank/upgrades matter too

[stiff badger]

I will be back and then i will play

[west elk]

yes