Cyclone is too OP

[solemn estuary]

1. you need porcupine and Air raid warning
2. it literally takes 3 Times the number of cyclone to kill a Porcupine

[vocal egret]

Porcupine is too slow to chasing cyclone, and even with gold anti-air boost, porcupine is still deals garbage dmg to cyclone

Also build a special factory too much waste of resources, you can see in the picture that I have 3 barracks, 1 vehicle factory, and 1 aircraft factory, it's all too much resource waste, and you want me to make a special vehicle factory? The enemy only has 2 barracks, 1 vehicle factory, and 1 aircraft factory, because cyclones are very cheap and fast to produce, this makes the cyclone able to dominate the battle even with only 1 aircraft factory.

I'm afraid of cyclones even if there's only one.

[steep glacier]

Armadillo is the best counter against Cyclone, and dragonfly also can

Another thing u can do is trick the players into a trap

U can build air defense and 5 porcupine in base at random direction and then make it as cant move then divide your army (armadillo/dragonfly into two group and send away from the base when they come attack from the both back side from right and left and then take it inside to the edge and finish them since they can't escape

This is how i countered all Cyclone rushers

[vocal egret]

Cyclone can dodge armadillo attacks, and also you need upgrade the Vehicle manufacture, while cyclone can already balance armadillos is even superior, plus, you only need a lvl 1 aircraft manufacturer to fight armadillos

[steep glacier]

Try this tactic first

[vocal egret]

Still need a ton of recources to try this tactic, mean while you just need lvl 1 aircraft factory to annoy your enemy base

[vocal egret]

1 porcupine is 180 recources if i not wrong, and cyclone is 120

[steep glacier]

With max upgraded hq in workshop u can get 2500 resources in the beginning of every match and with a max upgraded supply center u can get 920 resources just with 7 supply center,(upgrade your porcupine missle, and this battle tactic needs hq lvl 3 only and build production building in the back of your base always do not try defend earlier gather and charge

[vocal egret]

Dood, in this tournament didnt give you countainers in the beginning of battle, i can make 7 supply center that fast

[steep glacier]

Bro learn bro learn

[vocal egret]

Oh yeah, i learned from aow, is pay to win

[steep glacier]

I start every match with 3 supply center 3 barrack 1 vehicle factory (lvl2) and @ vehicle factory level 1 max units in early game for hq1 and then u can dominate others, use advanced emergency supply boost(red) colour

[steep glacier]

I neved use real money, use game credits to buy red boost

Do contracts

Make a pro gameplay

[vocal egret]

I cant make 3 supply center without countainers, i must build the power plant frist, this tournament don't have recource countainers

[solemn estuary]

Bro its not meant To kill instantly its meant for it to Hold off And can fight For longer battle

ive been destroying so many cyclone spammers it just takes like 12 porcs and His career is over

[vocal egret]

Well, those cyclones will destroy my buildings cuz porcs is too slow

[solemn estuary]

those things barely scratches anything

[vocal egret]

Did you know cyclone has equal dmg to bunker?

[solemn estuary]

i know AnD bunker is just durable

And Barely scratched Anything

[vocal egret]

You can see on that picture, there is 5 cyclones, and 5 bunker attacking 1 building is ez

[solemn estuary]

2-3 porcs is enough to kill it

As u said The Player can control The cyclone to avoid porcs
Meaning He Put himself In a Death Situation for himself Like
Full cp cyclones vs Full cp Anti Air means His Dead Not to mention be invested on Cyclone so much He Used up his cp and Cant switch to full land fast

and Yeah 2 things he can decide its either he attack Or come late game and Die easily

[vocal egret]

I cant make full cp anti air, cuz its need alot of recources

[solemn estuary]

same for him

But if you play garbage on scouting Anything U die easily

[vocal egret]

Nope, he doesnt need much reacources, he had only 1 aircraft factory to make that chaos

[solemn estuary]

1 vs 1 factory = he lose

To porcs

[vocal egret]

Porcs need 180 recources, mean while cyclone is 120

[solemn estuary]

150

wait no no

130-140

Flies is 150

[vocal egret]

Also porcs Cannot be produced as fast as a cyclone

[covert zealot]

tbf, cyclone is indeed quite destructive in low rank. but the more you learn how to maximizing upgrades on important units and getting more starting resources by upgrading your HQ, it can be done. also max dragonfly beat max cyclone if its the same rank

but just a little tips to you, please scout your enemy frequently so you're prepared for their attacks, and dont produce too much units in early state of the game if you dont needed it, focused building supply center and then goes HQ2 after that build more supply center, with this you can always have the resources advantage

[solemn estuary]

Wut?

they almost have the same

It takes 2.5cyclone to kill a porcs

[covert zealot]

they have almost the same, but the mistake that most people tend to do is to ONLY produce it when its already too late

[solemn estuary]

hq3 can make 2 special fact or Avia fact hq can both make 1

so 2:1 is a good ratio for u

[vocal egret]

Porcs aren't enough to stop cyclone spam, you also need armadillos, but it's a huge waste of resources because you need lvl 2 vehicle factories, and 1 special factory, while the enemy just need lvl 1 aircraft factory

[solemn estuary]

Then complain Ofcs

[covert zealot]

armadillo is a waste

[solemn estuary]

🤦‍♂️

[covert zealot]

its worse in dealing with them

better go porcupine, its better trust me

but...your porcupine need to be maxed out against maxed cyclone of course, also tried to mass them before the cyclone are massed first, 6 porcupine could take on against 8 cyclone , while suffering only 2-3 casualties

also just saying, NO ONE use armadillo anymore, at least not usually. since they're becoming worse the higher you go in ranks

they dont have the same firepower as hammer, and they're not that effective at dealing against cyclone or dragonfly, since they're getting out range by them in higher rank

porcupine could have 12 range on its missile launcher if you go higher in ranks

[vocal egret]

this tournament don't have recource countainers I CAN'T try your opinion that easily

[covert zealot]

but yeah, l dont use armadillo at all, everyone prefer porcupine mass with dragonfly and grenadier, its better

[covert zealot]

well... l only saying this in a whole summary, not a specific tour, also just saying dont play tour if you dont have maxed units and you must spam red boost or gold boost the moment you play tour ,because that just how competitive it is, its not fun tbh

l prefer playing 1v1 or 2v2 now, NEVER tour, since its usually very unfair

not in the terms of rank no. but in the terms of boost and upgrades, sometime its waaaay too different

but, that about it, its up to you if you want to trust my opinion or not. anyway, it was nice to talk to ya

[solemn estuary]

porcs can kill 2 cyclone so if u hve 6 and he had 8 u could lose 1-2

[covert zealot]

its more than that tbh, add the anti air raid boost, you will get funny result xD

[solemn estuary]

Yeah

both air raid on both faction is broken

[vocal egret]

The enemy just need 1 aircraft factory to make that chaos

[solemn estuary]

So your telling us u play With scouting and never made Factories?

nor AA earlier

[vocal egret]

How many thousands of times do I have to tell you that I don't get resource countainers?

[solemn estuary]

i guess u didnt have atleast 3 Supply center at steel league

[vocal egret]

Of course i have

[solemn estuary]

dont know why u lose Badly and mind us showing ur units

[vocal egret]

But those cyclones and zombies keep kill my units

[solemn estuary]

Oh yeah i forgot to tell u that Dfly +porc Works against Full cyclone

[vocal egret]

Another waste recources

[solemn estuary]

Wat rank are u again?

[vocal egret]

10

[solemn estuary]

Ah i see thats why u struggle on fighting cyclone

[sonic current]

skill issue

[sonic current]

Show us ur porcs

[sonic current]

Cyclown is 140

[sonic current]

This tour has zombies

And they one tap infantry and stuff

So cyclowns are needed

[grizzled drift]

I heard that a full upgraded cyclone can beat a full upgraded dragonfly.

I guess GG never considered about the connotative benefits brought by high speed.

[solemn estuary]

No

[grizzled drift]

Is there any test videos like 10 dragon VS 10 cyclones on YouTube or other websites？

[solemn estuary]

Youtube i dont believe Since Others are destroying people with Literally Paper Upgrades and Say That rifleman can Beat Fire assaults on 1v1 and his Rifleman Also dwstroys a Zues on 1v1

[grizzled drift]

[sonic current]

Shit ups detected

[ripe badge]

There are some possibilities why you lost against Cyclone spam.

First of all, I suspect you have lower upgrade of Porcupine, Anti-Air and Armadillo than enemy Cyclone.

Second, Skill Cards level can play a factor.

Third, you maybe didn't scout that often, resulting you not prepared to counter them (it's too late).

There is NO WAY Porcupine or Anti-Air and even Armadillo lost in 1:1 ratio battle againsy Cyclone. It's either you didnt upgrade enough or you didn't produce enough (quantity) counters for Cyclone.

If you say Cyclone is fast, Porcupine has range. Add it with Anti-Air Boost and you will outrange Cyclone. Or if you want your Porcupine to move faster use Gold Vehicle Scouting Boost.

And yes this game is mainly Pay To Win so make peace with it.

[sonic current]

lol

[fresh rose]

up your dfly

don't go dillo against cyclones

[harsh wraith]

Dude scout enemy often cuz cyclone spam is very often used by confeds.Also use supply boost go hq3 and have 2 special factories u can use armadillos and porcs but mostly must have porcs also upgrade porcs well.No points to argue or write anything dude this game is pay to win and pleases confeds. U can also switch to confa if u find resistance hard to play 🙂🙂

[fresh rose]

just go max your dfly and just chase him around

[sonic current]

It might work if ur rushed

As dillos have autocannon that deals dmg mainly to armor 2

[fresh rose]

yes but against spam no

dfly rush for defense is best over dillo, mobility is more important than defense and firepower

[copper wolf]

Hello

Bro war

[frail mesa]

Cyclones are nothing to me even if they are 1 rank ahead of me i crush them easily
Just build two special vehicle factor and 1 vehicle factory produce 10 max Jaguars together with pocupines attack

[sonic current]

Maxed porcs?

If not then i’d daresay you’ve never faced real cyclone users

[frail mesa]

Yes max damage only

[frail mesa]

I have even won against cyclone spammers in sea maps where you cant attack with porcs but still win

[sonic current]

gators are too tanky

And has decently powerful aa

[restive mica]

bro idk what rank you are but in R 16 and above having special vehicle factory is a must have in your game at 5 minutes

[sonic current]

Yes, in case you see vietnam flashback inducing moments

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-flashback-cat-gif-18770750

[sonic current]

[fickle hollow]

I say porcupine is dangerous to Cyclone. I'm 70% Cyclone upgrade and porcupine still affects me

[solemn estuary]

No way clcone wins vs porcupines

it will take u 3 cyclones to kill 1

[fickle hollow]

I agree, 3 is rough enough for 10 cyclones, you will loose at least 1

[fickle hollow]

True, it fires anti air and 20mm (I think)

[frail mesa]

Cyclones are no way match with my porcs

[solemn estuary]

its not about that reason

[frail mesa]

I kill them

[solemn estuary]

the main reason is Anti air must kill Air

Cyclones has machineguns

So Later on they barely scratch anything,its strong on Early ranks

[fickle hollow]

Im agreeing with y’all especially because I use cyclone

Its most effective against R’s Zeus because it has no anti air protection

[frail mesa]

The only times cycones become power is when enermy uses them with vetex. Damm i hate that strategy

[fickle hollow]

And Zeus when the fog is over

[solemn estuary]

Thats why hawks exist

Or Play full porcs and drive to his airfields

[frail mesa]

All cyclones take that damage from porcs and vetex kills your chameleon, porcs, Jaguars and even building

[fickle hollow]

To make Cyclone even more OP, add seraphim

[solemn estuary]

Add mole on porcs

Lets see How muxh damage it does😂

[fickle hollow]

Not effective against cyclone

And Cerebrus is trash

[solemn estuary]

Only early unit

[fickle hollow]

Still trash

It’s too slow

[solemn estuary]

Yes trash,kills 19 coyote/4 flies/4 dillos alobe

[fickle hollow]

Bs

[solemn estuary]

not bs 🙂

[tawdry garnet]

Always build special factory, it’s a no brainer.
Also hawks eat cyclones for breakfast, forget dillos and porcs, if they have enough cyclones they’ll be useless.

[static wave]

Nerf cyclone

[stuck stream]

Use anti air against air
Best strat

[sonic current]

max ur aa

[restive mica]

played against an cyclone spammer beat him easily with my maxed out porcupines and hawks

3 factories making porcupine

my final army was 20 porcupines 10 jaguars and 4 hawks

in rank 17

[proper scroll]

Even a rank 24, with skillrank 19 has no use for his cyclone, when I place my rank 22, skillrank 14 armadillo on the map with a golden vehicle attack boost.

armadillo, hard counter

but who builds armadillo these days?...

[solemn estuary]

same faction if enemy use flies amd early container nah

[proper scroll]

armadillo survives longer against a zeus than a jaguar.... somehow

[restive mica]

Maybe its the armor type (II) that makes it happen

[tawdry garnet]

Every noob I seem to get partnered with in 3v3, that’s who 😆