tech-deals-discussion

[fair moon]

"standard" (slowest)

[fleet marlin]

@steel wren edited. Just dumb the link has item number then has the item number again.

[pulsar fable]

Forgot to say this earlier, but thanks for the information.

[azure pond]

i havent had an IPS monitor, but i have no issues with my VA panel

actually that might be a lie

one sec

my 1440p side monitor is IPS, didnt know that

it looks amazing when doing work and stuff, but for gaming the VA panel is more than fine

[pulsar fable]

My current monitor is tn. Doesn't look great but it was $50 at a used electronics shop so I'm not complaining

[azure pond]

fair enough

my main monitor is 1080p 165hz VA, does the job, was i think $140

155 according to amazon, post tax

[pulsar fable]

I also have a 144hz Philips monitor in storage, which I got a while ago when it was "the cheapest 144hz monitor" at $120

I don't know what panel it is tho, cause I got it off of the cost and nothing more

I'm probably giving that to my brother tho because his LG monitor broke after just 6 months of use

[fleet marlin]

Mr.Woof - Yea I know, just certain prices changed and/or a lot of drives weren't super good deals really. That SN850 is the outright best deal that I noticed on the email.

[light bay]

@azure pond but gf1 pe cheaper

[azure pond]

mpg better tho

[light bay]

Mpg has its own issues with power ok/hold up time tbf

[azure pond]

gf1 has speculative A tier

might be moved to B tier

[light bay]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-850w-power-supply

Aris seemed to like it 🤷

@gray valley thoughts on gf1 non RGB?

And yes I just realized the THW review is on the RGB one

Cause I know the gf1 is "gpr" but then it may also not be and all that

[light holly]

@vague pine @gray valley That Orochi V2 arrived today. I really like it. The only issue I had so far is that when the USB receiver is plugged into the back of my PC it is interfering with my wifi so bad I get random disconnects every couple minutes as well as when connected, my download speed is 0.9mbps or less. I had to plug it into one of my front USB so.. not quite ideal. Otherwise.. I like it. Thanks guys.

[gray valley]

the GPR is nice, the Highpower version should be pretty decent

[gray valley]

[normal tiger]

Mine will arrive on Friday, got the black one for my sister and the white one for myself. I'm excited!! Also you don't use an ethernet cable for your PC?

[light holly]

I use my phones hotspot as it's faster and cheaper than any home internet in my area.

That particular day only had 15 upload, but I generally get 30-50 upload.

[normal tiger]

ohhh I see, that's unfortunate home internet isn't an option in your area :/ That's a good way around it though

[light holly]

I mean it is an option.. just not $130 for 30mbps with 1tb data cap. My phone is 100mbps with no data cap for $60 a month.

Plus i get premium bandwidth so i get priority over others on the same network in my area.

[normal tiger]

Ohh yeah for sure, that's what I meant, but dayum that home plan is no bueno lol 💀

[brisk sphinx]

@muted geyser Why you gotta tempt me with that monitor

[azure pond]

thats a whole tv

[light bay]

@fleet marlin nice find

[high radish]

Any thoughts about that ssd ?

[azure pond]

great deal

[high radish]

isn't it regular price for gen3 ssd ?

[brisk sphinx]

I really hope that deal is around for tomorrow

Pay day! Whoop Whoop!

[high radish]

I mean I bought p5 and 970evo plus for 150$ . I think it's new regular price for gen3 ssd

Oh I see p41 is also 15% off

Mp34 is also for same peice

[grand orbit]

not all gen 3 ssds are the same

p31 is better than mp34 by like a whole tier

[high radish]

it is to me lol gen3 = regular storage for me lol

[azure pond]

not how ssds work

[high radish]

Gen4 for main usage

[azure pond]

but ok

[kind rover]

i kinda wanna grab that 6900XT, comes out to $788 after tax, is it overkill or 1440p?

[high radish]

No

[azure pond]

if you already have that 3070 ti

i would wait

[kind rover]

yeah, i dont plan on gaming at 4k anytime soon so ill prolly hold out till rtx 6000 series

[high radish]

fromc3070ti to 6900xt is not worth it I guess . Probably wait for next gen

[azure pond]

40 series is dropping soon enough, so id just wait for that

[kind rover]

but like, how much more intense can games get

i guess more physics but isnt that mostly cpu?

[steel wren]

damn that 6900xt

tempting

[azure pond]

i get that, but at the same time why pay for worse when you can wait a few months for better

[kind rover]

true true, ill wait : )

[azure pond]

nvidia said path tracing is going to be sick, but then again they said that about first gen rtx and dlss

and that didnt work out so well

[steel wren]

so, what about you bacca? jumping on the 40 train?

[azure pond]

probably not early on

im going for raptor lake later this year, and then maybe next year ill go 40 series, but more likely ill just wait for 50

first im going to be rebuilding tho, with raptor and a new psu

alr got a new case and cooler

[steel wren]

yeah thats wise, me? ill goin to skip directly to high 50 series, i will pass this one

maybe 3060ti to like 5080ti or higher

[azure pond]

meant wait for 50*

[kind rover]

damn raptor lake just sounds cool

[azure pond]

ill prolly go for 4060 ti

wait

no

my brain isnt working, im doing too many things at once

[steel wren]

yeah not worth, to me you should jump to something on the 4080+

[azure pond]

im either going to go for 4070 at msrp, if its possible, a year or so after launch

[steel wren]

to be worth over the 3060ti of yours

[azure pond]

otherwise 50 series

[steel wren]

yeah, early adopters of a 5080 maybe, that sounds sexy

[azure pond]

mm

eh

i dont like early adopting anything

sometimes will have some long term issues, like early release 2080 tis have some power issues i believe

[steel wren]

hmmm you got a point there, however i will try to snatch a founder one this time

[azure pond]

not a bad idea at all

[steel wren]

just because

[azure pond]

if shortage happens again

[high radish]

I waiting for next white strix card

[azure pond]

youll have the early card

[azure pond]

waiting to overpay for a mid looking card

[steel wren]

so, raptor lake later this year.... then 2 whole years of savings for a very high end founder one

[versed escarp]

@cerulean pilot are you still looking to give away your nvidia 1070 for free???

[high radish]

it's better than paying for gigatrash that fails in a month lol

[azure pond]

you know theres more than two brands, right?

[high radish]

Literally RMAd 2nd gigabyte 3080 lol

Evga ? Ugliest cards

[steel wren]

im a proud believer of evga master race

[azure pond]

lol

[kind rover]

ROG POG

[steel wren]

begone heretic

[high radish]

Only white cards are white strix and vision

And zotac which is actually yellow lol

Since vision and zotac elected , only choice is white strix

[grand orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-no-sign-of-intelligent-life-dumb-toy-story-gif-11489315

[high radish]

Lol

I using gen3 ssds for backup and extra storage

All main SSDs are gen4

Have p5 and 970evo

[azure pond]

doesnt mean gen 3 ssds are all the same

[high radish]

S70 blade is great one

Pretty same as 980pro and sn850

[steel wren]

yeah but those last 2 are too expensive for what they are

[high radish]

Yep s70 blade was only 200$

[azure pond]

that 970 evo will run a lot of games better than a lot of gen 4 ssds :D

[high radish]

3500mbps vs 7400mbps

[azure pond]

speed is not all that determines performance

[high radish]

Random speed is also better

[azure pond]

p31 also runs games the same as s70 blade

gen 4 does not yield much performance gain if youre gaming

[high radish]

Ssd Speed does not affect fps much but loading time

[azure pond]

mhm

exactly

[high radish]

I waiting for players to load game everytime

[azure pond]

ok

[fleet marlin]

SN850 still $216 w/ a newegg code. (I'm just fighting the urge to get the P31. $19 over my Evo 970 Plus, but still)

[jolly inlet]

"Much"? It doesn't affect FPS at all unless your speed is so slow it can't load assets on the fly

[high radish]

I tempting to get another sn850 right now lmao

[jolly inlet]

Also loading time difference is like 9 seconds instead of 11

[high radish]

even tho all 4 m2 slots are full on my both boards lol

[jolly inlet]

Expanders exist

[high radish]

time to buy 2x more sn850

[jolly inlet]

https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-advanced-solution-Controller-Expansion/dp/B07JKH5VTL

[grave delta]

That 2TB p31 deal is near perfect for a single drive everything use case on a medium to high end rig imo

And those things run cool, won't need much of a heatsink

[high radish]

it giving gen3 performance I can put my gen3 ssds there tho

[jolly inlet]

Yep the P31 runs cool because it's got some of the lowest power draw under load

[jolly inlet]

Odds are unless you're on 12th gen intel your secondary slots are 3.0 anyway

[high radish]

both builds are 12th gen

4x m2 slot

[jolly inlet]

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-M-2-X16-Expansion-Card/dp/B084HMHGSP

[high radish]

4x m2 expansion

[jolly inlet]

Imagine RAID on those drives

[high radish]

doesn't it eating all pcie lines ? lmao

[jolly inlet]

Only 16 lanes

From the chipset

[high radish]

oh yeah

i wonder if theres 16lines left lmao

[jolly inlet]

Z690?

[high radish]

yup

[jolly inlet]

That has 28 lanes usable

[high radish]

chipset or total

[jolly inlet]

Chipset

48 total

[high radish]

I guess 3x m2 slot eating from chipset while 1st one directly to cpu

[jolly inlet]

16 for GPU
4 from CPU for top M.2
12 from chipset for other 3 M.2 slots
16 for the expander
Boom you're full

[high radish]

still enough pcie line left for 4x 4.0 line

sounds amazing lol

I wonder if it can affect gpu temp ? probably not

[jolly inlet]

Only if it blocks airflow

[high radish]

i can put it lower pcie slot

[jolly inlet]

Put a fan over them if it ends up hurting

[high radish]

I dont have fans for gpu right now

i mean at bottom of case

regular 3intake 3out fans

[grave delta]

I would go with windows storage space instead of a striped volume

[fleet marlin]

If Psu bottom w/ psu cage, then bottom fans are sort of irrelevant.

[high radish]

it is sadly

[grave delta]

I tried four p31's striped, sequential did 13k, but random read was bad

[high radish]

but thinking about to move on to lian li case

and vertical mount my beautiful white strix 3090

[grave delta]

Remember the chipset lanes are shared over the DMI bus

Rather, they're multiplexed

[high radish]

I need tons of storagee

[grave delta]

Could go workstation platform

If you need the bandwidth

[high radish]

ugly

[grave delta]

But z690 has a lot of fast lanes as is

[grave delta]

Get out

[high radish]

I got z690 mobos lol

all 4 m2 slots are full already lol

all 2tb

[jolly inlet]

If it's just storage you need and not space large sata drives are much cheaper than large m.2

[high radish]

its been years I moved on from hard drives lol

[jolly inlet]

I mean these https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7Qvqqs/samsung-870-qvo-8-tb-25-solid-state-drive-mz-77q8t0bam

[high radish]

sata ssd is option but 500mbps hurts

[jolly inlet]

When they come back in stock on memory.com that's $676

WAIT it is in stock

https://www.memoryc.com/32305-8tb-samsung-2-5-inch-serial-ata-v-nand-mlc-internal-solid-state-drive.html?sscid=61k6_own8c&

[azure pond]

My cs900 (very low end sata drive) boots maybe 5 seconds slower than my 660p

[grave delta]

I'd imagine they won't be using data for boot

Also remember all the data drives will be sharing bandwidth over the chipset as well

[azure pond]

I know, war pig just doesn't like sata ssds

Or gen 3 nvme ssds for the matter

[grave delta]

It is really nice that z690 now has that thicc x8 4.0 bus

Same as trx40/wrx80 even

[grand orbit]

war pig clearly doesnt speak poor 🤔

[slow sluice]

Why the downvotes on the vision? It seemed like a pretty good price when you factor in the white tax

[fleet marlin]

Also forgets P31 still claps some gen 4 in certain tasks. Plus , no throttling is nice. (P41 no throttle either, w/ mobo heatsink at least, but still). Yea think I'll snag 1, & maybe resell my Sammy or the S70.

[grand orbit]

3080 12gb prices are 850 for gaming z trio, paying 150 more for 5% more perf and a worse model is yikes

[slow sluice]

Ti though, not 80 12gb

[grand orbit]

yeah but only 5% diff and gaming z trio is farrrrrrr better than vision which needs a repad too

id say z trio 12gb is pretty close to vision 80 ti out of the box

[slow sluice]

The white card is the big draw, and honestly once you're at high end like that you're dealing witg diminishing returns anyway

[fleet marlin]

$150 is $150. Hey Fal Cie that' 8TB is decent. Very close to 2x price of 4TB mx500 was.

[high radish]

[fair moon]

$84/tb isn't that great for a QVO sata

[azure pond]

for budget builds, its fine

oh wait

you mean the samsung one lmao

[fair moon]

Yeah

[azure pond]

im slightly high

ignore me

[fair moon]

Sata is great for budget

[azure pond]

hi rommy

spooky CT noises

lmao

[cloud hornet]

Still find it hard to believe I got that 8tb for $450 new on third market.

[light bay]

New in package or new according to SMART data?

[cloud hornet]

According to SMART, which could be reset. Tho, sticker would've been taken off with care if that was true, as it was unharmed.

[light bay]

Damn

Imagine the chia mining you could do on that bad boy

What's the tbw?

[cloud hornet]

I ended up wrecking the sticker tho as I was checking PCB. Which also means sticker had good adhesive, but nothing insane. So if they did reset it, they also were semi smart about what adhesive to use.

[light bay]

Or they have one of these lmao

Unless there's unique markings or something

[cloud hornet]

Chia mining had two portions to it. Don't remember the names but first part (plotting?) was expected to have fast read/write (NVMe) and second part was just needing bulk storage (pretty sure even HDDs were fine).

[light bay]

Mhmm

[cloud hornet]

Fair sure SATA SSDs weren't well recommended with Chai.
Also warranty TBW is 360TBW

[light bay]

Damn

You got a good deal if it wasn't screwed with

[cloud hornet]

Well there were no errors when I got it. Lots of SMART tests and LBA checks. So health is most likely pretty good.

[light bay]

Good

How full is it now?

[cloud hornet]

I was so damn concerned about it being a scam at first lol. Wrote 5.5TiB of verifiable data to it like 24hrs in of getting it. Even checked PCB (as mentioned before)

[light bay]

Yeah

It's like those 1tb $5 USB drives on AliExpress lol

[cloud hornet]

Yeah basically.
Rn I'm at like 3.8tb used or smth.

[light bay]

Sweet

[fleet marlin]

[azure pond]

hows the p41 compared to s70 blade?

[vague pine]

strange that it's interfering that much with it. mine doesnt do that but if anything if you want you could also get a dongle like logitech has for their mice or at least the superlight has to have it a bit further

[light bay]

one word: sk hynix

[light bay]

quicker

p41 leads in like all tests

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sk-hynix-platinum-p41-ssd-review/2

absolute insanity

[azure pond]

nice

[brittle lagoon]

do keep in mind a bit hawt

[azure pond]

so run it in an h510 elite with no heatsink

got it

[light bay]

eh more like h1

pre-recall

https://tenor.com/view/aunty-donna-broden-broden-kelly-haha-laugh-gif-21563043

[fleet marlin]

Mb I know that was P31 temps. P41 is similar if I recall (doesn't throttle)

[brittle lagoon]

The Platinum P41’s S.M.A.R.T. report shows two throttle points, at 86C for throttle and 87C for critical. In practice, we saw throttling around the 84-86C range as measured by the sensor, which corresponded to a 70-72C range for the NAND. During a write workload, we recorded the surface temperature at about 85C versus 82C reported by the sensor, so reports of the drive throttling by 90C, on FLIR, are accurate. We were able to find some relatively graceful throttling after writing about 420GB.

[fleet marlin]

Yep, that's how reviews vary. TPU might have lower ambient or such, & did have the mobo heatspreader on. Pretty nice good airflow drops max temp nearly 20c though. Personally not writing 400GB at once, maybe. 90c sure is toasty.

[high radish]

does ssds really getting that hot under heatsink ?

I don't think I ever checked ssd temperature lol

oh checkeed sata ssd temps which is back in case

I see p41 and sn850 is for 220$ both

which one is better

[light bay]

p41 imo

i mean, look thru the review if you want. p41 wins almost every test

[high radish]

[fleet marlin]

That's just w/o decent airflow, and realize that's also a 400+ GB write. SN850 is a whole $5-6 cheaper, but indeed P41 would be my pick. I'm just trying to sell my S70, maybe.

[high radish]

I do write 300 400gb sometimes lol

what about s70blade

using s70 as boot drive and I didn't feel difference between sn850 lol

[fleet marlin]

S70 blade was/is 1 of the top dawgs. Similar sequential in many stuff. Also I'm "losing" $30ish if I resell mine to get a P41, lol. That's what I get for impulse buys.

[high radish]

never used hynix ssd im not sure about it

[fleet marlin]

Realize they literally make ram and such for many other companies, haha (even if Micron/Samsung ram is often better). The p41 on Amazon already has fantastic reviews . Plus, Toms and TPU are pretty solid for ssd reviews.

[high radish]

yeah my ddr5 rams have hynix m die lol

Honeslty I heard a lot of bad reviews about hynix vrams on gpu lol probably miners complaining about it but idk

btw amazon reviews sux

they dont even let me write bad review about something lmao

I literally didn't write anything bad just item is not same and its size is not same as well

seller not replying as well lol

I want to let people know seller sending different item which is poor quality and smaller

[fleet marlin]

Yikes. Anyways yea can't go w/ either P31 or P41 but look at what you do and figure out if you need the high super extended write performance of specific drives like the firecuda 530 or w/e. I just know the "random" performance for the Hynixs is great it seems. Edit: off to work

[high radish]

thanks for reviews lol

[jolly inlet]

I had one (positive btw) review get flagged for having a "negative tone" with no explanation, yet reviews with all caps and 5 words made it through for the same item

[flat junco]

It's probably because they don't want this in all of their reviews

[high radish]

[flat junco]

In the header, footer, and a rating of beans lol

[light holly]

Luckily I just bought a usb extension with a switch on it for my keeb that came in a 2 pack so I could probably use that.

[high radish]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/904073551957614703/946049191363354664/hattip.gif

5star

[jolly inlet]

Oooh 2x16gb DDR5 finally getting affordable?

[stoic crest]

not good enough imo

[jolly inlet]

Not good enough yet sure, but it is a good sign for the near future

Yeah looks like some 4800 c38 kingston kit is $190, c40 crucial for $176. Yeah these are low end but that's the idea, they're still better than 3200 c16 DDR4.

[stoic crest]

ye

[light bay]

There's much better out there

And 5200 d5 sucks

[jolly inlet]

It still beats 3200 c16 so for early runs it's not bad

[light bay]

I mean

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4502626

The exists if you want ddr5

Same speed but value wise, hugely better

[jolly inlet]

That's not bad, even though it's c40

[fleet marlin]

Just sold my 970 evo plus so I could switch to a P31. The big question, get the P41 or not. - I probably shouldn't.

[grand orbit]

Ohh nice price on the p41

[high radish]

I'm still in between p41 and sn850

Same price

[gray valley]

P41 between the two

but both are stupid overkill for the average person

[light holly]

I love being average and having overkill.

:P

[gray valley]

I don't like spending money on things I don't benefit from

that's all

[light holly]

I like the assurance that I can do whatever if it ever came up.

[high radish]

S70 is another option

I mean why not both lol

[brisk sphinx]

I want a P41 but my laptop can’t support it

[steel wren]

i want a p31 but not on newegg

[high radish]

Scamegg

[gray valley]

S70 is nice, but behind quite a few others in performance

P41, E18+B47R, SN850 and 980 pro outperform it from the top of my head

[brisk sphinx]

Cheat on wegg then

[azure pond]

@fleet marlin hows the sn850 compare to the p31?

[high radish]

7000mbps vs 2000mbps

[azure pond]

dude

how many times does this have to be explained to you

weve told you atleast two times, probably over five

[high radish]

You can buy p31 ofc it's good deal but comparing sn850 with it is funny lol

[azure pond]

theres no point in having this conversation with you again

[grand orbit]

Very close in rand perf

[azure pond]

sn850 2tb is 216 atm

[grand orbit]

Woops wrong ping

[azure pond]

worth posting?

[grand orbit]

It's good ye

[high radish]

It posted yesterday

And copped one sn850 and one p41

Sn850 transferring with 5000mbps stable speed while max mp33 can do is 1500mbps which probably gonna trasfer slower than that

Don't need to compare SSDs for gaming. We compare SSDs for reliability and transfer speed

[azure pond]

you do

not to mention

real world performance is very different from all of that

im not having this conversation with you for a 10th time

[high radish]

Actually main discussion about storage devices should be lifespan

[azure pond]

theres no point in it

[azure pond]

ok

[high radish]

That doesn't change reality sn850 transferring with 5gbps while slower tier ssds takes forever to transfer it

[azure pond]

ok

[normal tiger]

Is it really a huge difference when it comes to transferring huge files or something? Like how much faster in terms of saving time and minutes/hrs is a 5000 vs 1500mbps?

[high radish]

Even my 970 evo taking load bank around 10 12 seconds while same bank loading in 2 3 seconds from sn850

[azure pond]

ok

[high radish]

Yes you can do more important things rather than waiting for load banks lol

in tests p41 is better than sn850 . I'll compare them when it arrives

[jolly inlet]

It will only ever make a real world difference when copying massive files from one SSD to another or doing heavy workstation tasks like 8k video editing.

[fair moon]

Not for SSDs

[light bay]

In tests p41 beats like every other consumer nvme

[high radish]

I guess except intel optane lol

[light bay]

Nah even optane

[high radish]

really ?

[light bay]

P41 smokes

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sk-hynix-platinum-p41-ssd-review/2

[fair moon]

My question is who here actually does these things? I'm sure some do but others are just trying to say they have "the best" drive

[light bay]

If 5800x optane may be a tad quicker in some stuff

But p41 should still win in the majority

[high radish]

I'm fasion desgner and I do almost aall of my work on PC so

having better pc means you can do lot more job with in same time which means more money lol

[light bay]

But also you spend more on PC so you need to make more to balance that out

[high radish]

I work for foreigner company and they paying good lol

i know lots of people using very slow pc for this job but I focusing on work speed so

theres big difference on loading banks between gen3 and gen4 ssds

[jolly inlet]

That's what I'd consider "light workstation" tasks but hey who am I to say don't spend more if you want to

[high radish]

been using gen3 for long and 1.5gb bank were loading in 10seconds while it loading within 2-3 seconds from sn850

[jolly inlet]

Maybe 1% of people here ask for help designing a PC for things like fluid physics calculations, AI processing, we even had one guy ask about a program to solve poker hands.

[high radish]

its like regular business lol you have to invest to get paid lol so I paying extra to pc , working faster , and getting my money back with extra

btw i have question but i think I shoud bring it to build chat

[slow sluice]

Hi

I do those things, I have a 660p

[jolly inlet]

And you're part of the 1%

[lofty moss]

bob taking L's with a gen3 drive

smh

broke

[fleet marlin]

Idk what you know who was thinkin. P31 obv hits 3500, and we how latency based stuff it beats some gen 4. Toms 50GB test shows the SN850 actually not so good (Big single files, yes the 850 is good). Idk, wish I needed the P41

[keen marsh]

Get the P41 because you want it. Treat yourself

I treat myself too much though

[fleet marlin]

Can tell buy your name also, lol. Yea gotta sell my S70 Blade 1st since I only have 1 gen 4 slot, but 2x3TB of nvme would be ( limited to gen 3 or not, P41 still would have great latency, and actually I am gonna try to go RKL to ADL again)

[normal tiger]

https://questrashop.com/product/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card-steel-and-black/

Is this legit?

$270 FE 3060ti (New)

Oh nvm seems scammy, looked up some reviews online

[brittle lagoon]

Looks like the average scam listing to me, pretty new domain, site was bought from namecheap apparently

[high radish]

https://tenor.com/view/itsascam-scam-meme-itsafraud-itsahoax-gif-23353011

[jolly inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/rickandmorty-sad-crying-cry-confused-gif-9365440

[slow sluice]

More just only one nvme and I really don't want to migrate data

[brisk sphinx]

660p gang

Wait no nvm, I have a 670p

[azure pond]

i have a 660p that ive used twice

both times for benching on timespy

[kind rover]

are MSRP 3000 series still considered good deals?

[fleet marlin]

Depends. For instance 3070 Gaming Z trio is $610 currently (decent VS $700 TUF 70 ti), but FE 3070 price is $500.

[light bay]

Best value of a card at original MSRP would def be a 3060ti imo

Or a 3080 10/12gb if in high end

[fleet marlin]

well i had a good msg about 1TB sn750se for $63 and 6TB WD Black hdd for $105 but bot cried about dupe text. (1TB SN850 $83ish but OOS)

[grand orbit]

Ohh nice

[high radish]

Sn850 gone real fast

[grand orbit]

Just put them in separate

[grand orbit]

@fleet marlin i posted for you lol

[high radish]

Great price for 1tb ssd + game

[fleet marlin]

Thnx. Yea on phone. I should've done separate & in this chan. Those gs links are a pain. I slept on the sn850. Idc about game but the sn750se good value. Bought 1 & 6TB wd blk. Lots of room also for stuff from a few old hdds & then maybe recycle.

[high radish]

[fair moon]

also if you already have 2042 or aren't interested in playing it, you can probably sell the key for ~$15-20 to make the SSD effectively even cheaper

[torpid night]

thinking about getting it too

[light holly]

soo.. is it 1tb or 500gb? the Features and product description contradict each other.

Also, how good is it compared to mp33/p31?

[high radish]

it's oos already

[light holly]

oof

that's what I get for sleeping

[high radish]

I missed 83$ 1tb sn850 too

But woke up and catched sn750se

[light holly]

so I know in the future... how does that ssd compare to the mp33/p31?

[grand orbit]

In the middle

It's like b tier

Mp33 is high end c tier

P31 is a tier

[light holly]

ah ok. Thank you Potato

[grand orbit]

Np rio de janero

[light holly]

lol

[light holly]

~~@grand orbit Thoughts? It is a mesh airflow case that comes with 6 argb fans that's on sale for sub $100.

https://www.amazon.com/MUSETEX-Mid-Tower-Computer-Tempered-TW8-S6-B/dp/B09HGXVHGY~~

If anyone sees this, DON'T buy this.

[grand orbit]

Never heard of that brand I'd assume crappy build quality but look up some reviews

[light holly]

the video kinda shows them opening it and whatnot. looks pretty nice tbh

hm, a review does say the top is flimsy though and rattles with the fans on there.

[tiny heron]

I've bought 3 different musetex cases. Cheaply made and all have fallen apart. The 3rd one I bought the fan controller caught fire

[light holly]

but for someone starting out that wants rainbow puke, it does come with 6 fans

[tiny heron]

Please do not buy

[light holly]

ah ok

I will not post in deals then

[tiny heron]

It looks nice though. Lol

Antec DF700 Flux, Mid Tower Computer Case, ATX Gaming Case, USB3.0 x 2, 360 mm Radiator Support, 3 x 120 mm ARGB, 1 x 120 mm Reverse & 1 x 120 mm Fans Included https://a.co/d/ctnKmdm

I've used a couple of these. Really great airflow. Included rgb and fan hub

Go anywhere from $90-110. Occasionally there is deals or coupons for them

[light holly]

Yeah, Antec generally has good build quality ime, except their argb fans have issues with LED on their fans

[tiny heron]

Yeah fans don't look the best. Kind of washed out

[light holly]

I suppose I should have said the Prizm X ARGB have issues with LED

But they actually look really good.

See build pics

My build has 13 of them

that 6700xt though

I might be buying it just cuz

[vital inlet]

I wouldn’t recommend a df700 as much anymore

The price for it went up a lot

[tiny heron]

Yeah I bought one for my family members build. Got it for $90 after coupons.

Amazon prime day is coming in a few weeks though. I'm sure there will be better brands for cheaper coming soon I hope

[steel wren]

450 for a 6700xt seems like a very nice deal D:

[light holly]

I know.. I'm so tempted

[steel wren]

yeah, i hate you so much man

[light holly]

plus the little extras are like a little bit of icing on the cupcake

[light holly]

https://tenor.com/view/good-hate-powerful-gif-13603659

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-hate-emperor-hate-flow-gif-12447947

[steel wren]

sometimes i feel tempted to sell my 60ti, then i remember i sold my gt650 as well

[grand orbit]

Why would you sell your 3060 ti to buy a 6700xt lol

[steel wren]

no no

for buying something 6900+

[grand orbit]

Ohh

[steel wren]

the 6700 seems juicy to resell here at ecuador

prices are still outrageous here

[grand orbit]

Ahh i thought you where in the us

[steel wren]

thats why my options are limted most of the time to small electronics

cant import big hardware like cases and such

my ti costs me 550 but after taxes/shipping i had it for like 650 here in my hands

still profitable, most 60ti on my local fb starts at 800+

and those are "lightly used"

[light holly]

then that 6700xt might be a good little profit for you.

[steel wren]

yeah, thats why i hate you

[light holly]

hate me for a profit? 😛

[steel wren]

but then again, the "nvidia is premium, amd is bad" mentality is strong here

[azure pond]

How does 4000c20 compare to other kits?

There's a 16gb 4000c20 kit for $45 rn on newegg

[steel wren]

still, goin to research some more at my local market to see if i can profit from that sale, if not it will be a replacement while i sell my "ligthly used" 60ti

[azure pond]

Not sure if it's worth posting

I'd guess it's somewhere around a 3600c18 bin

[steel wren]

4000c20 have 10ns first word, same as 3600c18

[azure pond]

Mm

So worth posting for budget builds maybe?

[light holly]

Sounds really great for a budget build

[steel wren]

as a matter of fact, yes

90 bucks for 32g 3600c18 aint that bad

[grand orbit]

Stoopid, also just use the 6700xt yourself and get bit better perf and save money

[fleet marlin]

For comparison 4000c18 ripjaws were often $130.

[grand orbit]

Link?

Probably got trash subtimings

[azure pond]

26 26 46

[light holly]

you got trash sub- I mean I love you Pato

[grand orbit]

Oooof

I mean still probably just as good as 3200cl16 anyway

Or better

[steel wren]

pato is love, pato is life

[light holly]

Pato is law

[azure pond]

Is it worth posting?

[grand orbit]

Idk tbh

[light holly]

alright, I'm done looking for the deals today. time to play a bit of FF7 before I have to work this day shift.

[azure pond]

I mean, it's def not worse than a 3200c16 kit

[grand orbit]

You forgot price in tech deals

[azure pond]

And its technichally cheaper

Oops

One sec

[grand orbit]

It kinda depends, in gear 1 probs not in gear 2 probs

Honestly I'm torn

[steel wren]

why yo should gear 2 something below 4000?

[light holly]

If pato is torn it's prob a good deal for budget

[steel wren]

pardon my ignorance

[grand orbit]

I have a feeling it will be crap ram that might not hit xmp is the thing

[light holly]

at $40 it would suit someone

[grand orbit]

Nono i mean the 4000 in g1 vs g2

[steel wren]

ahhh

[grand orbit]

45

[steel wren]

yeah cl20 on gear 2 will kill that deal

[light holly]

yeah, but how much are most 16gb kits?

anything that low?

[steel wren]

in all the wrong ways ofc

[grand orbit]

3200c16 is like 49 iirc

[light holly]

oh,

nvm then

[grand orbit]

Gear is affected by freq not cl afaik

[steel wren]

but gear 2 will result in worse timings anyway on the imc as far as i know

much faster memory should compensate for that

[grand orbit]

Not timings, but latency

[steel wren]

rigth, latency

[grand orbit]

Idk

If it was a couple $ cheaper then sure but like 4$ less than 3200c16 that will deff work on basically everything

And actually hit xmp

[grand orbit]

Bro don't bit.ly links mega sus

[high radish]

Oh sry it was gamestop link actually

https://www.gamestop.com/electronics/smart-home-automation/wifi-networking/products/netgear-nighthawk-xr1000-ax5400-wifi-6-gaming-router/11118121.html?utm_source=rakutenls&utm_medium=affiliate

[light holly]

Shortened

https://www.gamestop.com/electronics/smart-home-automation/wifi-networking/products/netgear-nighthawk-xr1000-ax5400-wifi-6-gaming-router/11118121.html

[high radish]

I was trying to short it too lol

is it deal

[light holly]

Looks like it

[fleet marlin]

Yea "normally" $300ish. It's 1 I was eyeing & ended up w/ a $240ish AX88U, which has 8 LAN ports. Pointless to some, helpful to me. $130 definitely a solid deal! I just probably still regret it later.

[slow sluice]

https://bit.ly/3u2bqIl

[grand orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-pepe-the-frog-sad-pepe-crying-tears-gif-7939264

[light holly]

The first comment fr sums up most the songs I listen to ha

[loud sandal]

@azure pond nice deal

[light holly]

What did you order?

[loud sandal]

sorry i thought that said where did you order from

[light holly]

I see now

[loud sandal]

i didnt order anything bc i have no need for it but i was checking out the deal

[loud sandal]

is this good deal guys its in #tech-deals but nobody up vote or downvote

[jolly inlet]

Not really when the firecuda 520 is cheaper https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vMFKHx/seagate-firecuda-520-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-zp2000gm3a002

Same A tier

[loud sandal]

hm

[high radish]

if it was 180$ i would say it's deal

200$ is just regular price for it

[loud sandal]

not really

i mean maybe now but i remeber a while back 2TB 3.0 ssds are $200

[high radish]

yeah now you can get gen4 ssds for 200$ easily

[jolly inlet]

Under $200 easily even, there's several right now

[slow sluice]

If you catch a sale on the sn770 you can even get under $100/TB

[azure pond]

770 is gen 4?

[brittle lagoon]

It's like 5000/5000

Like e16 drives

[slow sluice]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wd-black-sn770-ssd-review/2
It does really well for a budget gen 4

[signal path]

i'm found a guy trying to sell a "Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 Super Gaming OC 3X 8G" for 230 euro (about 243 usd) is this a good price, i've been out of the second hand price loop for a while so i'm unsure

[azure pond]

Seems decent to me

[signal path]

ok ty for helping

[tawny pendant]

https://www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-rx-6500-xt-rx-65xt4dbdq/p/N82E16814150866?Description=gpu&cm_re=gpu-_-14-150-866-_-Product

is this a good deal?

idk if I'd buy it but it seems decent for the price (20 bucks off)

[stoic crest]

no

don't even consider that card

it's trash

[tawny pendant]

damn

how tho?

[stoic crest]

slower than 5500xt

that's your answer

[tawny pendant]

damn

[azure pond]

6500xt is not worth more than $130

[marsh sphinx]

Radeon 6700XT 12GB for 350$

good deal or no?

[stoic crest]

that sounds sus

is it new or used?

[marsh sphinx]

used

350$ rtx 3060 also

these are both local pickup

[prisma cosmos]

You should read the rules since there is no selling in this server

[oak sentinel]

he isnt...

hes asking if thats a good price to buy

[marsh sphinx]

yep

[light bay]

If both are legit, I'd def take the 6700xt between the two unless you plan on streaming or editing/rendering/productivity a ton

[oak sentinel]

Yep

6700xt is a lot better

id take it over 3060 for streaming and editing and stuff too

[light bay]

Can't beat the cuda tho

Like if they don't really game or something

[oak sentinel]

notice how I left out productivity?

[marsh sphinx]

im just gonna be playing games on it

[oak sentinel]

6700xt

[light bay]

Then hell yeah 6700xt

[marsh sphinx]

ok thank you

[oak sentinel]

not even close between the 2

[marsh sphinx]

i thought geforce was better

[light bay]

I thought that's what you meant by "and stuff" xD

[oak sentinel]

nah just media stuff

like streaming and what not

[light bay]

Now if it was a 3060ti, that'd change the perspective here

Yea

[marsh sphinx]

3060 ti better than 6700?

[light bay]

In some stuff it can get pretty close

But sadly 3060ti prices have just been insane

A used $350 6700xt is actually quite good if it's legit

[marsh sphinx]

theres also some 3060 ti's in my area that are in the 400's

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060Ti Aorus Elite

[light bay]

Newegg has had a 3060ti bundled with a good 750w PSU for $450 bouncing in and out of stock for the last few days, which is the best I've recently seen for one of those

[marsh sphinx]

425

oh wow

id better wait for that then if i want a ti

[light bay]

Actually nvrmind it was $525

[marsh sphinx]

but best money value

[light bay]

The $450 was the non ti

[marsh sphinx]

is 6700 ?

oh

[light bay]

6700xt for $350 gonna be super difficult to beat

[marsh sphinx]

ok

thank you

[light holly]

@high radish what constitutes as "regular ram"?

[high radish]

3200mhz cl16 lol

[light holly]

are the subtiming regular?

[high radish]

I think so . 3200mhz is pretty common . it's nothing fancy but alright one

[light holly]

In future posts in tech deals, do you mind putting the name of the item you are linking instead of some vague idea? 🙂 I don't like having to click links to open a whole webpage if I don't have to. I'm sure there are others like me here as well.

---

Games like these I notice go on sale for what seem like a "good deal", but are they truly ever not this price? I also noticed that the games on a "deal" like this are the same price or cheaper on game CD key sites.. so I'm just wondering if this is something I should jump on? I really like Batman and want to buy it, but I won't be able to play it for a minute so I don't want to buy it right now if this "deal" is a forever kind of thing.

https://www.newegg.com/warner-bros-batman-arkham-collection/p/32-777-281

[grand orbit]

They're not, it's 16 -20-20-40 instead of 16-18-18-36

[high radish]

Yeah it's not best ram it's just cheap lol

For gaming I think 16gb high speed ram should be better

Than this one

[light holly]

majority of people that come here looking for deals and whatnot are generally for gaming and productivity yeah?

[grand orbit]

You can just spend 5$ more and get 3200 with normal subtimings

[grand orbit]

Prolly

[grand orbit]

@tired herald btw tech deals is only for things you can buy multiple of

Also especially if it seems sketch just don't

[quasi pasture]

It's also an auction not a bin

[normal tiger]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B099J9YLZ8/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_dl_DRF8EW2MMR1HQXAAMRK0_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&th=1

I’ve never heard of this company before, but it’s super cheap. Can anyone verify whether this is worth it?

Edit: not super cheap, but pretty good

[high radish]

seller have 10 rating lol

super sus

[normal tiger]

F lol

[azure pond]

not worth

more expensive than a silicon power kit of the same specs

[normal tiger]

Ahh gotcha, alright thanks

[azure pond]

here you go https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5

[normal tiger]

Ohh thanks, appreciate it!!

[light holly]

@loud sandal I love how the combo is just a whole PC lol

[loud sandal]

I got an email

[light holly]

ok?

[loud sandal]

i just wanted to say where i got it from

[daring depot]

bro that combo is literally my setup, just 300 bucks more expensive and 2 years newer

[slow sluice]

Newegg saying "here's your PC, now build it"

[light bay]

Newegg saying "open box"

[daring depot]

*Chernobyl loot box be like

[fair moon]

that gigabyte kit is $1033 after rebate 👀

similar build is more like $1250 not 1500 but still a nice discount

[slow sluice]

Add another $100 for a PSU and you're off to the races

[fair moon]

oh is the psu bad

maybe not much of a deal then

[stoic crest]

no

the psu is good

it's a b tier

gigabyte ud gm is good

it's not the bomb psu

the non ud is the bomb

[grand orbit]

It's not really that good of a deal tbh a lot of the "individual prices" are too high

[torpid night]

literally my car’s battery when we swapped it two days ago

[azure pond]

firecuda 520 2tb for $180 worth posting, or is that normal pricing?

[grand orbit]

That's decent ye

Although ssds prices have been going down which is nicee

[boreal depot]

Lmao GPUs are going down

[swift sand]

Thank god gpus are going down

[light bay]

@grave delta how many gpu's do you think thatll hold?

[grave delta]

yes

[fleet marlin]

That was never $171. I got the same thing from Home Depot for $90ish a few yrs ago, just so people no. Still a good price though

[uneven void]

bruh i thought the length was 72 inches so i was like woah what an amazing deal

[fleet marlin]

Check out this $60 shelf at sams club, haha. https://www.samsclub.com/p/6-shelf-storage-rack/prod21000119

[uneven void]

nice

[cinder kiln]

I use a bookshelf

Then again I also have some books on it

[tiny heron]

Nice rack 😏

[fleet marlin]

I've seen better.

[cinder kiln]

You'd shelf that one?

[wide onyx]

I wonder if I could be cheap and make a “desk” out of that? Depending how I manipulate the shelves.

[light holly]

Might be a bit wobbly

You can easily find a desk on Amazon for half the cost though and it'd be an actual desk and sturdier.

[tiny heron]

Honestly just find a used small/medium sized kitchen table off marketplace. Lol

If you don't want to spend much.

[high radish]

That ssd is oos

[fair moon]

huh

might be by region?

ohh the 500gb is in stock but not 1tb but the site was showing the 1tb as available to pickup for some reason

[grave delta]

don't, it's a good deal in itself, but those things are too wobbly to make any kind of useful desk. I have 5 similar shelves to store all my tech hoarding.

I think filing cabinets + a slab of butcher block could work

[wide onyx]

I already have my desk picked out

[grave delta]

My friend uses similar shelves as a "workbench", would not recommend https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/519276540085665803/910365588478636062/B045D6A6-2817-4912-AF93-2D4FC0795266.jpg?width=1205&height=904

[fair moon]

yeah definitely don't use those as a desk

[still falcon]

are those big containers for liquid nitrogen?

[grave delta]

Yes

[fleet marlin]

🤣 all them mobos piled up.

[quasi pasture]

i dont see any lga2011 boards, pfft

hmmmmmm

[azure pond]

@fleet marlin

[high radish]

my p41 2tb and sn850 2tb will deliver tomorrow I will compare them once I install both

lol I can't upvote for deal

[still falcon]

@high radish its essentially the same price on newegg

[high radish]

really ? idk since when z590s become that cheap lmao

[still falcon]

since z690's came out

[high radish]

yeah sure but its cheaper than I expected

even cheaper than decent b660 mobos lol

actually cheaper than all b660 mobos

[still falcon]

well i mean it is the cheapest z590

[still falcon]

the only b660's under 100 have 2 mem slots

they are also meant to be cheaper than z690's iirc

[high radish]

if its asrock its firehazard lol

[azure pond]

2 mem slots is more than fine

[still falcon]

i know plenty of people who use asrock motherboards?

[azure pond]

Asrock makes... a lot of bad mobos

[still falcon]

but cheap

[azure pond]

Mine is so bad it doesn't have vrm temp sensors

[lofty moss]

no temp sensors???

how awful

[high radish]

in b660 series its firehazard

[lofty moss]

clearly not fit to run windows or any other software

[still falcon]

im pretty sure my msi b560 doesnt have temp sensors?

[azure pond]

If I didn't have a fan directly on it, it'd throttle with my 3600

[azure pond]

Thanks sassy

[lofty moss]

np

[azure pond]

It was a measure of quality

[high radish]

asrock b660 struggling even with 12400 lol

[azure pond]

B660 steel legend is alright on sale

Not sure if it still is

[still falcon]

its 120 atm

gotta love a b660 steel legned

😭

[high radish]

bought b660m pro rs for 12600k and package temps were higher than cpu temps lmao

[high radish]

almost z690 price lol

[still falcon]

thats not usd

but you're right it is pretty close

[fleet marlin]

Good to see. Funny I consider the $92 somewhat normal price. I wouldn't even do a 1TB gen 4 either, GB/$ isn't great. I would've gotten the $220 P41 if I didn't impulse buy S70 Blade a month or so ago. Someone offered $160 for it, seriously.
Guess I'll keep it instead of losing $50ish, lol. Now I'm debating reselling the 1TB 750se that was only $63. Idk if that should be OS drive or my smaller sn550.
-- Also just got my $96 6TB wd_black hdd. 6003FZBX & apparently made March 2021 funny enough.

[molten halo]

But asrock Taichi tho 👀

[light holly]

@loud sandal You can save even more if you combo it for 2 of them

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4240425

[loud sandal]

[light holly]

hehe only .99 😛

[loud sandal]

okay i added

[dim bay]

The vrms on that board are very good

[mint wedge]

sadddd for pro members only

[grand orbit]

@strong axle post a link bro

[slow sluice]

@high radish is there any company that you don't dislike lol

[high radish]

Manufacturer or retailer lol

[slow sluice]

Any

[high radish]

my companies to avoid list
#1 Gigabyte
#2 Zotac
#3 Biostrar
#4 Asrock
#5 MSI

[strong axle]

Bru

[high radish]

Post gpu shortage retail avoid list
1:bestbuy
2:Newegg

[strong axle]

No

Bb is generally fine

[slow sluice]

Meanwhile MSI out here with some of the best PSUs on the market, and competitively priced SSDs

[high radish]

But they don't shop things

[slow sluice]

ASRock with one of the best price to performance 6900xtxh cards

Gigabyte with some solid motherboards, also MSI fwiw

[high radish]

Gigatrash*

[slow sluice]

ASRock also has some decent mobos, just not as competitively priced

[high radish]

I bought 4 gigabyte products 2 was doa and 2 died in few months

[slow sluice]

What product

[high radish]

Z590 , X570, and bought 3080 aorus master which dead in 2 months and rma said it was refurbished even tho bought it as brand new lmao . They sent new one and that one also having blacking screen randomly already.

RMAd it too

[slow sluice]

Which z590 and x570

[high radish]

Z590 aorus elite

X570 aero g or something

White one

Z590 had blown flash bios chip . Idk what was wrong with x570 it were posting after like 10 try and restart

[slow sluice]

Sounds like you had really bad luck or a really bad shipper, that shouldn't happen

Or I guess it could have been cid

[high radish]

That's why gigabyte is 1st on my avoid list lol

Only gigabyte products working well for me is aorus 2tb ssd

it's been few months it working surprisingly

[slow sluice]

Where were they ordered from? I suppose it's also possible that the retailer tried to flip a dead board

[high radish]

All from scamegg

3080 aorus from shuffle

[slow sluice]

So likely

Definitely not enough data here to completely avoid gigabyte

Always remember

[high radish]

Bought asrock b660 pro rs with 12600k and package temps were higher than cpu temps lmao

[high radish]

Agreed but since I have no luck with 4 products there's no point to try 5th time lmao

[light bay]

Coulda told you that was gonna happen

[slow sluice]

That's perfectly normal, not really part of the motherboard either

[light bay]

Same thing woulda happened with a ds3h

[high radish]

Idk I bought it couse it was nice looking and actually underestimated 12600k I guess lol

[grand orbit]

That's a great motherboard lmao? Also what you got against msi

[light bay]

Theres extensive testing out there in b660 vrms

[slow sluice]

Probably the GN crusade from a few years back

[light bay]

Tbf MSI makes the mech and the ventus

[high radish]

Msi have some good products actually but I find them overpriced since it's same price as strix , I prefer strix

[grand orbit]

What happened a few years back?

[high radish]

Lower tier is not well like ventus etc

[slow sluice]

Strix PSUs are the same price as MSI?

[grand orbit]

Fair but that's 1 easily avoidable model and it's consistent

[light bay]

2

[slow sluice]

3000 ventus is also better, they don't have the glaring issues of the 2000s

[light bay]

Mech for Radeon, ventus for nvidia

That's fair but they still suck

[grand orbit]

Nooooo strix psus are like 180 for the 850w or something msi agf is like 110~

[grand orbit]

Basically the same

[slow sluice]

Yeah, but they're good enough for a reliable budget recommendation

[light bay]

Sure

[slow sluice]

Ventus 3080 will still perform better than a strix 3070 that costs the same

Ngl if I were to go back through all the builds I've done for people, the only time I think Asus would show up on any component is if there was a really good sale or they specifically requested it

[high radish]

I bought 3080 aorus master for that screen but I'm regret I didn't bought strix instead

Rma repaired 2nd aorus card and I will sell it for big loss as refurbished

And gonna get strix

[slow sluice]

Why not just keep the working card lol

[high radish]

Couse I'm done with it

Can't play any game for last month well lol

My backup card is 6600xt lmao

[slow sluice]

6600xt is a decent card though. Not going to run 4k ultra obv, but still enough for 1080p60 on pretty much any game out there

[high radish]

And don't want to play games on my working PC which have white strix 3090

[grand orbit]

Prime mobos are usually decent

[high radish]

I playing at 2k with RT and 6600xt giving 1fps

[grand orbit]

Turn off RT easy fix there

[high radish]

That's not why I paid 1100$ for 3080 aorus

[slow sluice]

Decent, but a weird price point. Non OC or flagships can do with lower tier, OC and flagships could go better in the budget they have a available

[high radish]

I would get strix instead

[slow sluice]

That sounds like a you problem

[high radish]

Evga have decent price for 3080s tho maybe I should try it

On my gaming build I don't care about aesthetics so

[slow sluice]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3080-gv-n3080gaming-oc-10gd/p/N82E16814932459
750

Decent card

Not going to do very well with 1440p ray tracing, but that's just the 3080 in general

[jolly inlet]

Why would you use ray tracing in anything but minecraft anyway

[cinder kiln]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3080-gv-n3080gaming-oc-12gd/p/1FT-000A-004E4

Huh. 689

Refurbished but still

Didn't expect to find that one haha

[high radish]

Eww

Gigabyte... Ref.... Newegg..

Everything is sus about it lol

[grand orbit]

Prime is usually on the cheaper side in my experience? Usually not my first choice tho ye

[cinder kiln]

Man I can't jump on any newegg sales here

Not for gpu's

Sadge

[grand orbit]

Aussie prices aren't that bad

[high radish]

I miss times newegg was great retail

[cinder kiln]

I mean yeah but sometimes I do the math conversions lol

[grand orbit]

Still better than irish prices :/

[cinder kiln]

Truth. Better than europe in general really

[grand orbit]

We used to be okay cuz had Amazon uk but after Brexit not as good but basically Ireland has the EU Amazon's very recent edition as of like 2 months ago? Newegg but prices looked yikes

We have currys also but they horribly overprice stuff :/

[cinder kiln]

Yeah you guys have those import fees or something to that effect now

[high radish]

20% VAT is gross

[grand orbit]

If we buy from uk yeah sometimes still worth it, although Amazons not too bad the take most of it and they don't charge uk tax just irish

23%

But that has nothing to do with the uk

That's just Irelands vat rate on everything

[cinder kiln]

Ah, like GST

[grand orbit]

It's just sales tax

[cinder kiln]

Ours is 10% on anything

Yeah

Actually you know what, I take it back. $691 USD here https://rosmancomputers.com.au/gigabyte-amd-gv-r68gaming-oc-16gd-r68gaming-oc-16gd/?setCurrencyId=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqO2G9OPQ-AIVTiUrCh2YEgGJEAQYASABEgJhUPD_BwE

There's also a TUF top going for a little more

[jolly inlet]

Have a friend in the states send you parts and claim it as a "gift" on the customs forms, ez fraud.
Or buy me a plane ticket and I'll bring a GPU in my suitcase. Tax dodging is fun!
(totally not serious don't do these things you can get in a lot of trouble)

[grand orbit]

I just checked actually Amazon uk is alright even for expensive things, i thought it might be like 25% on items after 200€ or something but it's was only like 10£ more on a potential 610£ 3070

[cinder kiln]

Nvm the top went out of stock

But 691USD for a 6900 XT good ima share it

[grand orbit]

Even if you claim it as a gift you have to pay tax on it here afaik

[jolly inlet]

Not if you wrap it in foil to block xray scanners and lie about contents. It's just a brick, right?

(no seriously don't)

[cinder kiln]

I've actually tried this, the shipping is absurd haha

Even if I want to tax dodge the shipping basically costs more

It was with a little stream deck but yeah, it would apply if I tried the 'gift' route

[jolly inlet]

Yeah international shipping costs alone for an item that size and weight are crazy, not even worth the risks

[grand orbit]

@cinder kiln that's actually an rx 6800

[cinder kiln]

Dammit

That's not really a sale then haha

The tuf top was 1100 AUD tho, so about 780USD

https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/tuf-rx6900xt-t16g-gaming-asus-tuf-gaming-radeon-rx-6900-xt-top-edition-16gb-gddr6-video-card.html

Next best one is 828usd, still good for xtx

[cinder kiln]

759 usd https://www.pccasegear.com/products/53055/asus-radeon-rx-6900-xt-tuf-gaming-oc-16gb

[high radish]

Customs mostly still charging you for a average price lmao

[tiny heron]

For gpus or in general?

[high radish]

General

[pulsar fable]

Just as you say to avoid gigabyte, my aorus motherboard I've been using for 4 years starts to go on the fritz

[jolly inlet]

Must be a sign it's time to upgrade to 13100 or something

Or 12100 if it dies sooner

12100 matches your 9700k btw

[grand orbit]

Hopefully 13100 gets e cores or 6 cores

[jolly inlet]

Supposedly all the i-series will have e-cores for 13th

[high radish]

I still wonder why 13900k have only 8 P cores while it have 16 e cores

[grand orbit]

Better for multicore

[tiny heron]

Idk I've always had aorus boards perform well for me. Msi on the other hand no so much

[grand orbit]

4 e cores fits in the space for 1 p core while having 33% of the power - for 12th gen anyway

Probably more for 13th

[high radish]

I mean 8 e cores is enough for background works and 16 P cores should be better for main work

[jolly inlet]

If the 13100 is 8 e-cores I'll eat my plate

More likely they're redesigning the layout of the chip so it's not required to have multiples of 4 for e-cores

Then 2p+2e or something

[high radish]

12100 don't have any e cores right ?

12400 too

[jolly inlet]

They currently start at the 12600k, but not regular 12600

[light bay]

only 12600k(f) and up

[high radish]

Hmm Idk I still don't liked idea having only 8P cores and 16 e cores lol

[jolly inlet]

Which of course makes the 12600 an absolute waste of silicon

[high radish]

Yeah

12600k is good one but currently overpriced

[light bay]

then 12700f

[jolly inlet]

12500 is the exact same chip with slightly lower clocks as the 12600

[high radish]

I think it's ewaste too

[jolly inlet]

And even that is only worth it if you really want that upgraded iGPU over the 12400

[high radish]

How much difference lol

1fps more ?

[light bay]

may help a bit in encode/decode using quicksync

thats all i see it for, nobody is actually gonna try to use uhd for gaming lol

[grand orbit]

No it wouldn't, anything that used that many cores would be better with 16 e cores because e cores take up the size of 1/4 p core, while being 33% as good as a p core ie 1 e core cluster (4 cores) take up the space of 1 p core so you could only do 16 e cores 8 p cores or 12 p cores 0 e cores

[high radish]

Yeah but it have very slow clock speed

3.7ghz

[grand orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-skipper-can-you-read-gif-22646390

[pulsar fable]

Yeah it's not dead yet so imma wait for 13th gen Intel. Thanks for the advice tho

[slow sluice]

Oh, that's easy. P cores are massive, so you can't fit very many on a die. e cores are tiny and you can put them pretty much anywhere. If it's anything like alderlake, which is very likely, then a die size with 8P+16e could do maybe 10 or 12P max without any e cores

Just a simple engineering tradeoff, sacrificing eight e cores for another two P cores just isn't worth when you already have eight P cores on the die

[high radish]

Yeah I see . I liked idea of having 8 e cores on 12th gen but I'm not really happy with 8p core 16 e core design lol

[jolly inlet]

If you want that many p-cores wait for the next xeon series

[high radish]

Yeah probably it's only thing they can increase in one gen but still

[slow sluice]

Gives you a lot more multithreaded performance without much extra die cost

[jolly inlet]

Keep in mind also, sacrificing a p-core means sacrificing 2 threads

[high radish]

8p/16e is better than 8p/8e ofc lol but it sounds lil bit funny to me

[slow sluice]

They could theoretically add in more P cores, but it'd be a purely marketing move. You already have enough P cores on the die to take care of anything that needs massive single threaded performance, and you gain much more multi-threaded performance by addign another eight e cores than 2 P cores

[high radish]

So They have to remove all E cores to fit extra P cores

[grand orbit]

Do you read ;-;

[slow sluice]

8P/16e is exactly the sort of ratio a hybrid architecture is designed for, a few massive powerful cores for single threaded performance backed up by a massive array of parallel processing cores

[high radish]

I'm happy with E cores and fun thing is they're overclockable.as well lol

You can OC them to 3.9ghz even some people pushing them to 4.1ghz which is almost regular speed

[slow sluice]

comparing clock speeds across architectures is kinda pointless, you won't get the same number of mips from an e core at 4GHz as a P core at 4GHz

[high radish]

[normal tiger]

When are intel 13th gen cpu’s coming out?

[high radish]

probably at q3

[azure pond]

My guess is around November

But nothing can be guaranteed

[normal tiger]

True, is it worth upgrading to 12th gen or wait till 13?

I haven’t bought my cpu yet cuz im saving money

[high radish]

theres engineering simples around already . maybe sooner thn november but yeah probably around there

[high radish]

if you have everything set , buy and enjoy it lol

if you have lil bit old pc which can hold for little while you can wait

[quasi pasture]

pfft, who needs 13th gen when you can use ivyrbridge xeons

https://tenor.com/view/turtle-friends-funny-dog-slow-gif-5256464

[normal tiger]

I’m using a quad core q8300 😂

[azure pond]

im using 19 core intel core duo

[jolly inlet]

I think you missed the decimal, 1.9 core

[grave delta]

Xeon phi's have 61 pentium-ish cores for about $30

[high radish]

xeon e5 2670

[jolly inlet]

1680 master race

[quasi pasture]

factual statement
https://hwbot.org/submission/4933290_

[high radish]

never had one

had e5 2670

[jolly inlet]

It has one of the best single core performance out of all the e5 series

[high radish]

2670was 2.5ghz if I remember right lol

Time just flies lol

[jolly inlet]

Compare to a 12100 for the lulz

[high radish]

12100f is better lol

[jolly inlet]

Yep with half the cores

[high radish]

And over half the power usage

[cinder kiln]

12th gen so good

[high radish]

Yeah I'm glad I didn't get 11th gen and waited for 12th gen

But 12900k build was expensive

[light bay]

Luckily RPL seems to be confirmed to be on lga1800 which is good to hear

[high radish]

560$ for 12900k , 300$ for mobo , 200$ for crappy ddr5 ram

[high radish]

Lga1800 already

[light bay]

I mean we've had it for what, a year now?

Good to see it confirmed atleast

Like h610, b660, h670, z690 are all lga1800

[high radish]

1700

[light bay]

1800

1700 would be the CPUs, as in 12th gen

[slow sluice]

Also using chiplets, which is cool

[light bay]

Yup

13900k multicore is gonna be outrageous