tech-deals-discussion

[thorny otter]

yeah its quite nice

can you send the link pls?

[torpid night]

You didn't ask me but I'm feeling curtious (iykyk). Here's the link
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-victus-16-1-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-8845hs-16gb-ddr5-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-512gb-ssd-mica-silver/6578934.p?skuId=6578934

[thorny otter]

im sorry

thanks

[torpid night]

mf is sorry for no reason 💀

[thorny otter]

lmao

[cinder kiln]

You'd only want pcie 3 so really as cheap as you feel is worth it

Or do a case swap, or find another way to hide it like custom partitions for the mobo tray

[bold willow]

Throw some pop figures below the GPU

Should I go with the $110 PG riptide now, wait until a good deal for Black Friday, or go with a $150 eagle AX?

Like is the Pg riptide really good at $110 or is there something else I could wait for

[bold willow]

Why not pcie 4?

[cinder kiln]

If you prefer. Just saying you only need 3

In fact tbh 2

[bold willow]

How big is the difference

[cinder kiln]

Basically 0%

[bold willow]

Let’s just go pcie 1

[cinder kiln]

1 is a bit too slow to handle a 3070 ti

[bold willow]

Maybe I’ll use usb-c to plug my 3070Ti

[cinder kiln]

Full 2.0x16 can tho

2.x16 barely saturates a 3090

[bold willow]

Bluetooth 3070Ti

Then why do they make the gpus pcie 4

[cinder kiln]

Cos ooo shiny

Only a handful of gpus actually need to run on latest spec

Notable examples are arc alchemist (intel) and amd's 6500xt

Arc also likes rebar

Some 40 series can suffer in edge cases as well

[bold willow]

They’re like $50+

[cinder kiln]

Which tho

[bold willow]

Most of them

Phanteleks, Lian Li, NZXT, cooler master

Like I might as well get a ATX mobo

[cinder kiln]

Cooler master's v3 one which is frankly one of the best starts at 38 on amazon

Like even if we were talking 150, AM5 just really isn't worth that price cos the cpus cost so much more imo

You pay 190+ for the equiavalent 150 12600k

The difference being it's amd instead and you bank on only swapping cpu later, but as far as net cost it can be considered a loss since selling the mobo won't make up that $40 difference

If you were talking a sub 130 AM5 board, that's more justifiable

Cos then the platform change price difference is now much smaller

[bold willow]

Uhhh

I’m using an i5-14600k

so lga1700 not am5

Already own the cpu and case

And GPU

[cinder kiln]

150 for almost identical features as a 110 board is a hard sell

Especially since no one uses more than 2 pcie slots on a board anymore

[tiny heron]

Thanks for sending link got busy at work

[bold willow]

So you say get the b760m riptide and not wait for Black Friday and hope for a deal?

The $110 riptide is on par with any ATX motherboard

[cinder kiln]

It's not impossible to beat but it is unlikely you'd get a better price for a pretty strong mid range board

[bold willow]

Alrighty

So what’s the best value pop figure to fill in empty space

Or actually

[cinder kiln]

Anything goes really

[bold willow]

What should I fill the gap

[cinder kiln]

Tbh a good piece of metal could hide the bottom standoffs and make it look intentional

[bold willow]

I do have a support stand for my GPU

Like a lil metal rod screw thing

It’s also a blackout build too

[cinder kiln]

What gpu is it

[bold willow]

3070 TI

[cinder kiln]

Blackout is much easier to paint in a partition

Which 3070 ti tho

[bold willow]

Tuf gaming oc

[cinder kiln]

I don't think it has one

[bold willow]

Has what

[cinder kiln]

A support stand included

[bold willow]

I have one

I bought one

It was like $5

[cinder kiln]

You can use that then

Oh I misread I thought you were asking lmao

Read Do I not I do

Lol

[bold willow]

Maybe ill buy a second motherboard to fill the space in

[cinder kiln]

It's up to you tho, if it gets too expensive then yeah, you may as well not overcomplicate and get a different board if it bothers you too much

[bold willow]

It won’t the

Tbh

Blackout build I won’t be able to see it

I’ll have the 8x2 cable blocking the way too

[cinder kiln]

Well a simple spray black piece of metal can hide a section of the motherboard tray

Depending on your luck or handiwork skills, very cheap

I had an matx o11 build until I want to dan A3, I was hiding the bottom part of the board with a radiator

[bold willow]

Throw an Xbox at the bottom

[cinder kiln]

Tbf it was an o11 evo so rotated inverted

But yeah, whatever works

[bold willow]

Black light and put some black light paint on parts in my pc

If I decide to spend $500 on a custom loop I can put the reservoir below.

[cinder kiln]

Could even 3d print a cover

[bold willow]

Maybe I’ll throw my old GPU below it and pretend I’m doing twin SLI

[cinder kiln]

Could even just display it there

[bold willow]

The 1080 founders edition

[cinder kiln]

That's a beloved pick

[bold willow]

Indeed

[thin bolt]

If you ever get rid of it, I would like it

[fleet marlin]

The 8GB goat

[bold willow]

Forgot the 1080 TI

[fleet marlin]

Wasn't out yet

[bold willow]

Huh

Funny how I upgraded from a 1080 on my first pc to a 2060

I had no idea that 1080 was better

[jolly inlet]

That's how people still feel today when they "upgrade" from a 2080 to a 4060

[bold willow]

Well tbh

Even with a loss in FPS you still gain in newer technology and support

Like yeah 1080 or even a 1070 to a 2060 would be a loss in FPS, but the RTX technology and newer drivers in 2060 would be better.

Also I think power efficiency is better

Although my friend has a 1080 TI and he runs basically every game at the same settings as my 3070 TI

[jolly inlet]

Not really. DLSS works on the 2080, just not frame gen, which is useless or unusable in many games and especially at lower base frame rates (like you'd get on a 4060 at anything above 1080p)

Power efficiency, sure, but that's not worth losing fps over

And quality

[bold willow]

lol I might get that B760M riptide for free

I’ve been saving up gift cards from random surveys on my college campus

Best tech deal possible

[jolly inlet]

Indeed, nothing beats free

[torpid night]

@azure pond includes a $30 coupon. $109.99 not $130

[jolly inlet]

Coupons tend to vary by region

[azure pond]

Fixed

Shows $30 for me too now

[fair moon]

[bold willow]

I got accepted for a Amazon credit card

Now I get free motherboard

[bold willow]

Legit cause they give me a $150 sign on bonus

[thin bolt]

https://www.newegg.com/acer-qg241y-s3bmiipx-24-fhd-180-hz-nitro-va-black/p/N82E16824011481?

[tawdry dragon]

biostar still makes gpus 💀

[bold willow]

Why get a $500 3080 when you can get a 4070 for the same price

DLSS 3, less power consumption, and overall newer.

Walmart

or even a 7900 GRE

[thin bolt]

[daring depot]

Huh!?

[bold willow]

wdym huh?

[cinder kiln]

3080s also go for much less than that

~$425 is a median good price for a 3080

[shut lava]

I'm not sure if a 3080 10gb is still worth $400 new with the other cards on the market.

[cinder kiln]

It should be creeping down yeah

Hell

A 6800xt is $425 rn new

That slaps a 4070 around

[azure pond]

7800xt was 430 for a good while

7700xt at $350 is pretty good value

[bold willow]

7600xt is pretty good value

[azure pond]

disagreed

6700xt/6750xt were 290/300 for a long while

10% better

also only $30 less than the 7700xt for like 20-25% worse perf

[cinder kiln]

There's no sensible use case for a 7600xt at all

[azure pond]

7600 is $226 which is great, the extra vram on the 7600xt isnt a big deal on a card of that tier https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rJBzK8/acer-predator-bifrost-oc-radeon-rx-7600-8-gb-video-card-apbf-arx7600-8g-oc

[cinder kiln]

If you want to spend 300 on an over 8gb card get a 6700xt or 7700xt

If that doesn't cut it then a 1080ti or titan xp definitely will for sub 200

Or a 2080ti for sub 300

[thin bolt]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/235802218626?

[thin bolt]

1080tis can be found for under $150

[cinder kiln]

Yup

[kindred citrus]

Are "Aztek Computers" or "Provantage" trustworthy electronics dealers? I've never heard of either of them.

[thin bolt]

I’ve never heard of either

Aztek seems to be a smaller e-commerce store based out of Texas.

Provantage just the same(unsure where they’re based)

[kindred citrus]

I have never heard of Aztek Computers either

[azure pond]

Are you in the US?

[kindred citrus]

yes

[azure pond]

If so I'd likely just use a diff retailer

B&h, newegg, adorama, amazon, best buy are all fine

[thin bolt]

^

@kindred citrus what are you looking for?

[azure pond]

Pcpartpicker.com provides prices from main websites like those for parts

[kindred citrus]

I'm looking for an RX 7800XT

[azure pond]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7WWJ7P/xfx-speedster-swft-210-core-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx-78tswftfp

[kindred citrus]

is central computers any good? I found the Sapphire gpu I'm after

and it's at MSRP as well

so, it would be a special order, which I would assume means they'd have to get some the next time 7800XTs are restocked, and they'd ship it to me

[thin bolt]

I’d just get one from the major retailers.

Back order is just a waste of time tbh.

Unless you’re saving a significant amount of money. Which if it’s just at msrp, it’s not worth waiting.

[kindred citrus]

I don't need it right now, depending on how long the wait would be, I can wait

[thin bolt]

Yeah, Amazon has them for the same price. I’d just get it there.

Or used from eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/405306235577?

[kindred citrus]

I found the GPU on eBay, it's the Sapphire 21330-01-20G, I think is the model? Goddamn, they were expensive

[thin bolt]

The model doesn’t really matter unless there’s a size restriction or some other incompatibility

[kindred citrus]

it's the GPU on AMD's site, iirc

[thin bolt]

unless it’s MSI

Yeah, it shouldn’t matter which

Hellhound is a decent brand

@kindred citrus as a side note, don’t bother asking pcmr for any help. they’re all kinda just… not right most of the time

[kindred citrus]

oh-

well, I'm probably going to just buy the GPU from central computers, and hope they can fulfill the order next time AMD restocks their 7800XTs

[kindred citrus]

now it's just a waiting game

[bold willow]

Watch what you say there may be spies

[thin bolt]

Dang, I hope I don’t offend them

[bold willow]

we're waiting outside

PCMR moderator squad van

come out slowly with your controller up

[thin bolt]

I HAVE A HOSTAGE
ITS A KEYBOARD AND A MOUSE

[bold willow]

LET THE KEYS GO! WE WILL NOT HESITATE TO SEND IN THE MONITORS!

[thin bolt]

NEVER, YOU’LL HAVE TO PRY THEM FROM MY COLD, MECHANICAL WHEELS

[balmy lake]

Sir! The SWASDTT team is in position. We have line of sight on the target. Request permission to left click.

[bold willow]

"Time to manage some cables" - Sargent DDR4

[thin bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/house-explosion-explode-boom-kaboom-gif-19506150

[bold willow]

Should I upgrade from RTX 3070 TI to 7900 GRE or wait for the 5000 series (or 8000 series)?

[cinder kiln]

I'd aim a little higher than a GRE to make that worth it imo

7900XT at a minimum

Those have been on excellent sales too

Check your psu if you decide to get that one

[grand orbit]

Personally I'd wait

[cinder kiln]

Waiting isn't the worst idea, though this is when AMD has in the past pushed their best sales around this time

Right before next gen

This is when we saw the $550-ish 6950XT's

Which to this day were ridiculously good sales

[normal spear]

Id def wait a good handful of years before upgrading from a 3070 ti

Or you could sell and upgrade from there if you really want to upgrade

And for me itd be at minimum an xtx

[bold willow]

I would be upgrading my brothers 2060 with my 3070 TI

But tbh he plays google so i dont think its too needed rn

[normal spear]

If he plays google he doesnt even need a dedicated gpu lmao

[bold willow]

idk what he plays

i think forza 5 and the fifa games.

[torpid night]

Bro plays Google

[daring depot]

bro's gunna need alot of ram

[torpid night]

💀

fr. forget the new GPU

[cinder kiln]

Imagine being chrome bottlenecked

[zenith lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-coffee-bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-gif-bocchi-funny-gif-27325558

[jolly inlet]

Not like Chrome is actively sabotaging the best way to reduce RAM usage, adblockers

Morning Theo

[bold willow]

@jolly inlet

[flat junco]

Kone Pro is a good deal, but their QC is trash. That mouse has bad scroll wheel issues, but there is a new version with the updated scroll wheel.

I'm assuming Woot is selling off all the bad batches

[azure pond]

This makes a lot of sense

I thought i just took bad care of the old one i had and broke the scroll wheel myself

Ty

[high radish]

How's that gigabyte board btw

[cinder kiln]

Oh wtf

I put it in the wrong chat

[high radish]

Lol

Another gigatrash moment

[cinder kiln]

This is like real gigatrash

One of the worst am5 boards iirc

Near asus prime tier

But for low end stuff it works

[high radish]

Yeah I hope it can handle 7600 at least

[cinder kiln]

It should

But like, over 120W tdp I'd get genuinely concerned

[azure pond]

at $160 with a 7500f at $130 thats better value than microcenters 7600x bundle

[cinder kiln]

It's the new ds3h

Yes it is

I just recommended that combo earlier

[high radish]

got similar combo for same price few weeks ago but with g.skill trash rams

yeah same price but trash ram

that ssd also have regular gen3 speed even tho they say it's gen4

[azure pond]

Nv2 had issues

No idea what nv3 is like

[shut lava]

The B550M PRO SE isn't a B550 chipset. Its a non overclockable BIOS board with a workstation chipset.

It doesn't even have PBO.

[azure pond]

oh

ew

[shut lava]

Its the AMD PRO565 Chipset on the B550M PRO SE

[torpid night]

That's the goofiest thing I think I've read in a while

Why even make it call it a "B550" board?

[marsh sphinx]

I’m getting close to my $1.3k budget, and my friend recommended to me that I should get a ryzen GPU and an intel CPU. Can anyone give me recommendations? My budget for both is $500 for the GPU and $200 for the CPU. I’m also wondering if I should still wait because I know the 5000 series is coming out soon, not sure what AMD is doing though

I should have all my money by december

[cinder kiln]

Sounds disproportionate to the gpu for that much budget

But maybe I'm not remembering part prices properly

Feel like a $700 GPU could fit there

Hit us up in December when you're ready to buy

[azure pond]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CXFG3w

Cpu mobo and ram are with newegg combo savings, and ssd comes free with the cpu

[marsh sphinx]

is it possible i can get it in white?

[azure pond]

Yes one sec

[marsh sphinx]

also what about the intel cpu/ryzen gpu

[azure pond]

Lemme swap some parts over

Am5 allows upgradability, whereas lga1700 is a dead end socket. No new cpus will get released on it

[marsh sphinx]

i’ve heard that it’s just buggy

[azure pond]

That 7600x bundle is insane value. The 7600x alone should be $200, you're basically paying $130 for mobo, ram, and ssd

[azure pond]

No.

No it isnt.

[marsh sphinx]

oh?

[azure pond]

Cpu and cpu socket are irrelevant to user experience, performance aside

[marsh sphinx]

Oh wow

[azure pond]

Honestly am5 is more secure than lga1700, with the issues intel was having (that have been resolved)

[marsh sphinx]

Ah ok

yeah i just don’t want VR to bug out

[azure pond]

13600k/kf/14600k/kf could be an ok choice, but not w that 7600x bundle being an option

[marsh sphinx]

Hm, ok

[azure pond]

VR is one of the only things nvidia makes sense for

At least that used to be true, I'm not sure if it still is

6000 series amd gpus had issues with VR, but 7000 series improved on a lot of previous issues, im unsure if VR was one of them

[marsh sphinx]

Ah ok

So yeah, all white build 1.3-1.4K budget, whatever is recommended

[azure pond]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WY8Mnp

For nvidia, 4070 ti super would make sense, but is just really poorly priced for what you get

[cinder kiln]

Kinda worth waiting until December unless you're targeting sales rn for specific things

The pc will not look the same in December

Not for the budget

[azure pond]

That bundle imo is worth grabbing, even to build a gpuless pc for now

[cinder kiln]

Yep agree

Maybe a GPU or PSU sale as well

[azure pond]

$330 for 7600x mobo ram and ssd is insane

[cinder kiln]

Then revisit later to finish it off

[cinder kiln]

Shame it can't handle any upgrade tho

Power spec leaves it a concerning future lol

maybe 10600X

💀

[azure pond]

7800x3d would still be fine, no?

Not being able to handle 90w would be sad

[cinder kiln]

90w, maybe 120w max would be where I'd peg it

It's pretty sad

[marsh sphinx]

Like black friday or?

[marsh sphinx]

Remind me when the best time to buy this would be, and why?

Oh and how would I apply the promo stuff

[azure pond]

cpu combo id grab asap, thats with neweggs combo deal. if you go to their site there should be a "combo savings" thing up top

you could get everything but gpu honestly, that way you've got a working pc till a good sale pops up

[marsh sphinx]

Oh amazing. Thanks

[marsh sphinx]

So are you saying there will be a better sale or there could be better sale for the GPU?

[lilac prawn]

I mean

Christmas

[marsh sphinx]

my mom is not ok with spending over 700 dollars on a gpu

[jolly inlet]

I think he meant Christmas sales

Not that you should ask for it for Christmas

[marsh sphinx]

Oh kek

mb

[marsh sphinx]

i could get it on cyber monday probably

[jolly inlet]

End of the year, end of the cycle, like now, is when AMD tends to offer the best deals

[marsh sphinx]

hm

alr

[jolly inlet]

The $550 6950 XT was an untouchable value a couple years ago

[marsh sphinx]

oh wow

also, cant find the deal anywhere

i see stuff for like 600 dollars but not the 330 dollar deal

[jolly inlet]

You need to use the Newegg combo builder tool

[marsh sphinx]

no idea how to use that

ill figure it out

[jolly inlet]

If you go to an item page there's a link for "combo up"

[marsh sphinx]

Oh found it

thanks

[marsh sphinx]

do i need to do a BIOS update with the mobo and cpu deal?

[jolly inlet]

I would recommend it but it won't be strictly needed

It's unlikely the version is old enough to be a problem but there is a major issue with CPUs literally exploding that they fixed pretty early on

[lilac prawn]

Intel took their time with that fix

[marsh sphinx]

just bought this combo

[lilac prawn]

Nice

[marsh sphinx]

should i keep saving up, or should I buy anything else while its on sale?

[jolly inlet]

We're at a weird point in tech where they're raising prices so they can mark it back down for black friday and call it a deal, even though it's the same prices we saw previously

[lilac prawn]

My bad

[cinder kiln]

Was $500 just a couple days ago

It beat it's own record

[jolly inlet]

Dang time travelers at it again

[cinder kiln]

Nvm I misread

💀

[lilac prawn]

My bad

I traveled backwards in time

[cinder kiln]

Shows normal on my end

Your Dr. Strange powers are leaking out @lilac prawn

Don't Segue us into last week pls

[jolly inlet]

I bet it does mr down unda man. Daylight savings isn't a thing for you right?

[cinder kiln]

It is but not at this hour

You guys are weirder

[jolly inlet]

no u

[azure pond]

If you want to order psu, case, and cpu cooler you can have a fully working pc for light stuff until you buy a gpu

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NjcxFZ

You might save a little money if you waited, but I don't see you saving more than $30 or so total on case and psu

And coolers are already so cheap what's the point

[marsh sphinx]

Yeah I already did that

[white citrus]

Wen star mi pc have this code 08 and after give this code A0 some help whit this code ., I have gigabyte X870 auros elite wife7 ice.

[jolly inlet]

A0 means it's booting into the OS, if one exists. In other words, it successfully started.

[white citrus]

and the 09,some times in games give me that code.

sorry o8

[jolly inlet]

Looks like there's a bug in Gigabyte boards and updating Gigabyte Control Center fixes it

It's not an issue at any rate

[white citrus]

rigknow have the code AO,and yesterday give that code 08,so si normal o have somo issue

[jolly inlet]

The codes themselves are not a problem. They are used to diagnose other problems you may encounter.

[white citrus]

like what kind of problems

[jolly inlet]

Like it not starting or failing to boot the OS, sometimes blue screens if they're hardware related

[white citrus]

ok

Yesterday I got a blue screen, it restarted my PC and everything was fine. Is this normal in Windows 11 Pro64?

[jolly inlet]

That depends on the specific error it gave you

[white citrus]

Very quickly the blue screen appeared, I didn't have time to see what it said, restart and that was it.

[jolly inlet]

If you send me the files located in C:\Windows\Minidump I can figure out the error code

[white citrus]

Where do I go to find them?

[jolly inlet]

C:\Windows\Minidump

[white citrus]

send to a link

[jolly inlet]

They're located on your operating system drive

And nowhere else in the world

[white citrus]

where exactly do i go on my pc

[jolly inlet]

File Explorer

C: drive

Windows folder

Minidump folder

[white citrus]

I already found it and then

[jolly inlet]

DM the files inside to me and I'll take it from there

[white citrus]

mm ned to send to you how

[jolly inlet]

Right click my name, hit message, drag the files into the window, and send

[tawdry dragon]

guys it's $4.24 cheaper!!!

[raw inlet]

I just found a used (like new) surface laptop go w i5 10th. Is it worth it for 220€?

[torpid night]

10th gen i5 could mean anything. Which i5? How much memory? Storage? Forget about upgrading that on that thing; how much storage?

[raw inlet]

1035G1, 8/256GB

[torpid night]

I mean if you're not doing anything crazy then yeah it should be fine. For 220 Euros? I wouldn't know I'm not European. Others here might suggest other things for that much. Specs, however, are fine for normal usage

Just a little old of an i5. We're basically on 15th gen atp

[raw inlet]

Its better than my current surface 6 with i5 8350u 8/256, just looking at this one since mine is a bit damaged and trackpad is failing

Ill think about it

[jolly inlet]

10th gen is only a little better than 8th tbh

But if you have other issues with your current one it might be worth it

[torpid night]

I mean if you need something functional and you're fine with the performance of yours, it's by far not the worst purchase but it's also not the best

[raw inlet]

I could still sell mine for €150, paid it 180 and that was already a good deal a few months ago

Its just the screen pressure damage that i don't really enjoy

• the entire shell is really damaged

[raw inlet]

Yeah its a really small upgrade
Few downgrades like the screen res

Probably wont notice much differemce on such a small screen, pro 6 has too high ppi imo

Oh wait
No backlit keyboard uhhh

[bold willow]

Laptops lose a ton of value once bought

[jolly inlet]

Normally I'd say "avoid the 980 pro" but that price is hard to pass up so I'll just remind people to update the firmware or else.

Oh... hmm, hey @azure pond is there a coupon or something for that drive? Because I see $114

[high radish]

description says 1tb

probably another amazon messed up moment

[jolly inlet]

Eh it's a copy/pasted form usually

[azure pond]

ah ended quickly

[jolly inlet]

Probably a pricing error then

Oh well

[high radish]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09JHKSNNG

[azure pond]

good for the 3 people who got it

[high radish]

thats real 2tb link xd

I ordered 2 of them but I feel like I gonna get 1tb xd

[azure pond]

then you should technichally get them for free

at least thats the law in my state

[high radish]

I living in Delaware which is popular for being fraud state

at least I can ask for replacement later

yeah they probably will be 1tb lol

[jolly inlet]

Get screenshots of the order before they change the title of the item on you

[high radish]

I did but I probably gonna cancell it . there's chance to get free ssd but idk if it's worth to try lol

[bold willow]

Sue for emotional damage

[jolly inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-damage-emotional-damage-meme-funny-gif-24332819

[fair moon]

I mean with Amazon it's pretty easy to return things within 30 days, especially if it's unopened.

[lilac prawn]

Just keep it

You bought it for a reason

[fair moon]

Well if they spent however dollars for 4tb total and only receive 2tb I doubt they'll refund 50%, easier to return

[lilac prawn]

Ohh

I thought it was the other way around

[jolly inlet]

Depends on how amazon support feels that day

Sometimes they'll tell you to keep it and do a full refund

[fair moon]

Yeah unfortunately I feel like that is happening less and less. Not necessarily completely out of greed but rather people abusing the system.

Worth a shot though

Oh probably also depends if it's sold by Amazon or a third party

[normal spear]

Ive never heard of that game

Is it any good?

[lilac prawn]

Ah yes the game of amazon returns

[pallid geyser]

I hadn’t played it either, but a friend said “Really cool game. The story is kinda doo doo, but the environment and monster designs are top tier.”

[trim pier]

Is there any vpn deals atm

like proton forced me to update their software & now I can't connect to the netherlands

and they're pay walling me by putting the "randomly change location" button on a 2 min timer.

[prime crow]

Private internet access is usually on sale PIA

[daring depot]

Is Nord ok?

They've offered me tons of deals but I dont remember if they were good

[tawdry dragon]

Nord is good, just more expensive than the rest

Proton and pia are the best In terms of privacy iirc

[lilac prawn]

you know you can literally just reach out to them and they will actually get back to you within 2 days, right?

[brittle lagoon]

If proton has worked well for you so far with the free tier, it might be time to start paying them for the service lol

[lilac prawn]

and also, that too

They don't even restrict your speed on the free tier

they just limit the locations, servers and frequency of reconnections

Proton is pretty good, a VPN Plus subscription comes with some other programs as well

[trim pier]

Well I’d love to go with proton just there’s a bunch of offers atm with end of Halloween and Black Friday coming up

• I have uniday coupons & atm, PIA has better pricing & coupons without unidays (💀) aka to the general public

[lilac prawn]

They also have other subscriptions that give you more benefits to their other apps

[trim pier]

nordvpn I know is reliable but is it worth the extra like 30$

Cause it’s 57$ vs 90$

For 2 years and the extra 3 months

[lilac prawn]

As far as I know all you get is just

[trim pier]

well I just realized idk if PIA gives extra benefits

[lilac prawn]

a VPN and their password manager?

for Nord

PIA just is a VPN and nothing else

[trim pier]

Hmm

Well I have the plus for nord on my screen

[lilac prawn]

Proton has an encrypted drive, email, password manager and some other stuff

[trim pier]

That’s the $90

[lilac prawn]

Idk what nord has recently tho

other than the eSim thing

[trim pier]

It looks like basic VPN

[lilac prawn]

They have exactly the same services as Proton

[trim pier]

Like it’ll protect me, check my passwords and credit card info

But tbh that’s all I see for Nord Plus, their highest one gives me the drive but it’s more expensive than protons option.

Like the same exact thing just for 50$ more.

[lilac prawn]

Up to you if you're going to use those services tbh

[trim pier]

Though I don’t think proton has mobile support does it?

[lilac prawn]

proton does have mobile vpn

[trim pier]

Oh

[lilac prawn]

and the app for their password manager

they're still improving their password manager for now

[marsh sphinx]

would it affect anything if I just stick my old gtx 1050 into a powerful pc? I don’t currently have my other GPU since I’m waiting until december to buy it

i’m using a ryzen 5 7600X for the cpu, not sure if it’ll ruin it at all

[torpid night]

Wouldn't do anything good or bad. But what's the purpose of putting a 1050 into a PC? You say you're on a 7600X so I assume you have a decent GPU

[normal spear]

it'd just be a bit better than using an igpu, you wont be getting top of the line perf but you can still get by with it

just might be a hassle hooking it up and what not

[azure pond]

If you're not planning to upgrade gpu 8600g would be cool. If you're planning to upgrade gpu later 7600/x is a good choice

[azure pond]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/1gk2q8b/bundle_gigabyte_b650m_gaming_plus_wifi_and_amd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[azure pond]

Unsure how to feel abt 12900k 3090 at $1290
https://www.ebay.com/itm/167053809519?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=FD6px4KaRcK&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[jolly inlet]

HP power limits the 12900K HARD. Below the Intel spec.

[marsh sphinx]

I’m gonna buy it on cyber monday

or black friday

since i have enough money for basically everything else

[azure pond]

Lowkey could sell it and drop a 12600k/12700f in

[marsh sphinx]

and the gpu is like half of my budget

[azure pond]

What's the list you're looking to buy rn?

[jolly inlet]

Also no XMP

[azure pond]

True

[marsh sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WY8Mnp

[jolly inlet]

DDR4-3200 max hurts a LOT on these chips

[azure pond]

W

[thin bolt]

3090 builds are on Jawa for same price

[tawdry dragon]

say what

[azure pond]

W

[torpid night]

sauce?

[fair moon]

Probably just Honey grabbing the wrong price

[tawdry dragon]

nah it's just honey being weird

sent me here https://www.newegg.com/global/ae-en/asus-pg32ucdm-31-5-uhd-240-hz-rog-swift-oled-qd-oled-black/p/N82E16824281297

[torpid night]

nah WHAT

[fleet marlin]

Oled is a big part of that

[jolly inlet]

32" 4K OLED moment

[marsh sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WY8Mnp

someone told me the GPU wouldn’t fit in this

Some1 fact check?

[jolly inlet]

It'll fit. Maximum GPU length in that case is 420mm, the GPU on the list is 330mm.

[thin bolt]

The someone should read dimensions

That sounded rude

[marsh sphinx]

they mistook it for another card

they scared me lol i didn’t wanna have to get a worse card

[azure pond]

the xtx can fit in that case too

[jolly inlet]

The 4090 could fit in that case for that matter

The longest GPU I know of is the Galax HOF 4090 at 360mm

[normal spear]

Just depends on the board size and fans n what not

[jolly inlet]

I mean, I guess the board might matter if you get an ITX board with a 4 slot GPU

But neither of those things are true for this list

[normal spear]

I didn't check the list so fair

[zenith lantern]

i have -p varation of that monitor and i liek it

[normal spear]

dyno is not a fan lmao

[azure pond]

Lmao

[balmy lake]

Dam, the 9800x3d already sold out at newegg and microcenter. Scalpers on amazon selling at ~$700+

[zenith lantern]

@balmy lake

[balmy lake]

Ah. Too bad i dont need a combo. I have an AM5 board already and DDR5-6000

[normal spear]

I hope nobody buys them from scalpers

[broken token]

https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-Internal-Expansion-MZ-V9P2T0B-AM/dp/B0BHJJ9Y77?ref=dlx_deals_dg_dcl_B0BHJJ9Y77_dt_sl14_43&th=1

is this a good deal?

[azure pond]

Not really

M480 pro is $120

[prime crow]

I checked earlier for combos and they all said out of stock or notify

[zenith lantern]

it restocked

[prime crow]

link?

[zenith lantern]

i mean it restocked when i posted that earlier

its sold out now rofl

[prime crow]

oooh gotcha

I was gonna say dang I just bought everything BUT the cpu

[severe jolt]

There is a 4080 that is 375mm iirc

Lemme check

Zotac PGF RTX 4090 D is 380, but that's China only

AMP Extreme AIRO GeForce RTX 4080 is 356mm

Strix 4090 is almost 360

IIRC the 370mm long 4080 is the Aorus Master one

But that's oos everywhere so I can't check

[jolly inlet]

358 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HYM48d/gigabyte-aorus-master-geforce-rtx-4090-24-gb-video-card-gv-n4090aorus-m-24gd

The 4080 Super model is 357

[severe jolt]

Huh

Guess I remembered wrong

Even still

Some old dual core cards were humongous

R9 295X2

The chungoid monstrosity

[jolly inlet]

That was 308

For the 390X2

295X2 309mm

Yes, at the time they were considered massive, but we have GPUs that weigh more than an average brick now lol

[severe jolt]

I mean yeah

4 slots too

Which is just insanity

[jolly inlet]

1000W of power isn't unreasonable for those to cool, or even for it to use when overclocking

[severe jolt]

Unironically you could put two twin-GPU cards in Crossfire and simultaneously spend less money and take up less space in your case than a single 4090

[jolly inlet]

An interesting thought

Quadfire

[severe jolt]

Ikr?

Though I believe it's entirely abandoned at this point

It might work

But probably won't

[jolly inlet]

Oh ofc but it would work on a technical level

Just not at the game support level any more

[severe jolt]

The latencies tho

The mfing latencies...

[jolly inlet]

That was always an issue 💀

I considered cfx with my old 380

[severe jolt]

Now add inter-chip latency to the cross-card latency

You might get a few frames per minute if you're lucky

[jolly inlet]

Decided instead to get a 1060 and I was better off for it

[severe jolt]

Tru

[marsh sphinx]

Got all my pc parts in the mail, gonna start building today ^^

only issue is that idk if i need to update my BIOS. can someone help/remind me?

[fair moon]

unlikely, unless you are doing an AM4 build with an old motherboard and newish cpu. Even then I think most have been updated at the factory. PCpartpicker may check for bios compatibility

[marsh sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WY8Mnp this is my build, doesnt say so i think

[fair moon]

Yeah I think you should be fine

[marsh sphinx]

awesome

will i be able to run many games on windows 11?

[fair moon]

yes

what monitor do you have?

[marsh sphinx]

i dont know the exact model, but its a curved monitor from MSI

[fair moon]

1440p?

[marsh sphinx]

how do i check?

[fair moon]

settings -> system -> display -> advanced display

if you haven't built yet, you can look at the back of the monitor and it should have a model number

[marsh sphinx]

back of the monitor doesnt have it. not sure if i ripped off a sticker or something

oh found it, G27C4X

[fair moon]

1080p

[marsh sphinx]

sounds about right

[fair moon]

7900xt is overkill for 1080p. Personally I highly recommend 1440p. Nice sweet spot of performance and visual clarity.

[marsh sphinx]

i am eventually gonna get a 2nd monitor

this one is just what i had since I was moving into a new place and the old guys screwed up my monitor and never gave me anything back for it

[fair moon]

fair enough. keep your eye out for black friday deals

[marsh sphinx]

awesome

[balmy lake]

Check your local microcenters if you can. 9800x3d in stock all day so far, in-store only. I want to get it but now im trying to restrain myself as there’s other things more important and im not even taxing my 7600X currently…lol

[jolly inlet]

It won't be required for you but I would still recommend updating due to issues with old versions of BIOS and performance improvements on newer versions.
Once you have the CPU installed you can download the bios file, extract it to a FAT32 USB drive, and head into the BIOS. You can search for the word "flash" once there and it usually comes right up.

[tawdry dragon]

Just got a free 65" lg OLED TV 💪💪💪

[pallid geyser]

The heck

[lilac prawn]

Wtf

[tawdry dragon]

they said it was broken, I factory reset it and it started working, although psu is acting up at higher brightness

also has a dead pixel straight down the middle length-wise

[jolly inlet]

PSU is an easy fix, and annoying as a dead pixel is QC usually calls it fine if it has less than 5

[marsh sphinx]

all these plugs are for RGB fans. No idea where any of this goes

Each fan has like 4 connectors and i don’t know what goes in what

[tawdry dragon]

Sorry let me rephrase, a deal pixel line spanning the entire display

[jolly inlet]

Oh a line of dead pixels is much more annoying

[tawdry dragon]

it kinda fades out towards the left though, very odd

probably damage caused by me in transport

[jolly inlet]

They connect to each other, creating 2 chains that will connect to the motherboard at the end of the link

[marsh sphinx]

Ah ok thank you

ååååuggh another issue

F_Panel on my mobo is 2 pins, but the plug for it has 9 pins

[jolly inlet]

That's RST

[marsh sphinx]

oh wait

[jolly inlet]

F_PANEL is to the right

[marsh sphinx]

Oh, thank you

duhh

that’s on me

[jolly inlet]

Nah it's not on you, they don't make it very clear

The reset jumper is usually closer to the CMOS battery so that's an unusual place for it

[marsh sphinx]

i’m still having a tough time with this

is it like, they all have their own plug-ins?

and they connect?

or is it they all connect into one plug-in

[jolly inlet]

One motherboard connection to the first fan, the first fan then connects to the second fan, and the third, etc

[marsh sphinx]

ohhhh ok

left with these two plugins

auughh this is frustrating

[lilac prawn]

This is why I do not like RGB lol

They either go into a 3v or 5v rgb header on the motherboard for lighting if those aren't already connected

If RGB already connected, its an extra cable I think

[marsh sphinx]

i just have no idea where to start

lol

???

are these all supposed to go in loops or something?

I might genuinely need someone to hold my hand thru this

ok think i did it right, not sure tho

these cables are all connected except for one which plugged into the left side of my mobo

[pallid geyser]

Rgb no fun

[marsh sphinx]

finished the rgb fans n stuff. now having issues with my psu

(excluding the PCI-E cable, no idea if to put it in PCI-E or PCI-E 5.0) i have absolutely no plugins, my motherboard doesn’t even ask for it

[jolly inlet]

Do you have a Nvidia 40 series GPU? If so it goes in the 5.0 one and will be the 12VHPWR connector on both ends.

[marsh sphinx]

Ended up getting help from my friend, got it all sorted out. still trying to figure out this damn RGB for my fans tho

[tawdry dragon]

Looool

[marsh sphinx]

Pc doesn’t give my monitor any sort of output, just keeps restarting constantly when i power it on. Any reason why?

It did like once (that’s where this photo was) and that’s when it did this. But so far, just keeps restarting and not giving any output.

[jolly inlet]

Check all your power connections

CPU, motherboard, and GPU especially

[marsh sphinx]

well they all worked like.. once

i don’t know if i clicked something or?

Haven’t touched it since

i’ve been trying to spam f12 or del since i booted it

[jolly inlet]

If it's restarting that means the power supply or motherboard detected a fault in the power and it's not getting sufficient amounts of it somewhere

What GPU is that because I see that there's a 6 pin plugged in but not the other 2 pins

[marsh sphinx]

gtx 1050 for now

[jolly inlet]

Ah ok so it really is just a 6 pin

[marsh sphinx]

yeah

no debug lights are on either

[thin bolt]

@marsh sphinx did you forget thermal paste

[marsh sphinx]

no

took off the peel too

there doesn’t feel to be any hot air coming out of the cpu cooler

Yep. Everything is plugged in, seated correctly, i don’t see where there wouldn’t be getting enough power, all it does is just turn on, but not load up a single output onto my monitor. It did once and i missed it

[jolly inlet]

It might be worth clearing cmos to see if it'll get into bios again

And if you can get into bios then immediately disable "memory context restore"

[marsh sphinx]

how do i do that?

[jolly inlet]

?cmos

[wraith panther]

How to clear CMOS (works for AMD and Intel)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[marsh sphinx]

also i don’t know if that will work because anything software related just doesn’t boot up

nothing is coming out of this computer other than spinning fans

[jolly inlet]

CMOS is a hardware thing

[marsh sphinx]

got it

my gpu is blocking it, hold on

[jolly inlet]

You probably have a jumper you can use instead of the battery

[marsh sphinx]

i’m kinda stupid, remind me what a jumper looks like

[jolly inlet]

It's this one

Labeled CLR_CMOS

[marsh sphinx]

any other solutions?

[jolly inlet]

Did resetting with the jumper not work

[marsh sphinx]

nope

well by that i mean, i couldn’t figure out how to

[jolly inlet]

Touch both pins with something metal to jump them

Non-coated metal works best so it's more conductive

Things like paperclips are my go to

[marsh sphinx]

can i use a screwdriver?

[jolly inlet]

If the tip is not coated

[tawdry dragon]

Ok I will have to replace the PSU, but only a $75 purchase

[marsh sphinx]

didn’t work

any other solutions?

[brazen wolf]

Are there any good laptops for around 800 USD rn?

[azure pond]

what for?

[brazen wolf]

Gaming

or like specific games?

[azure pond]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/156403505101?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=92chrSivS8C&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

https://www.ebay.com/itm/156343477585?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=92chrSivS8C&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

I'm still looking

Felix and foxy are better w laptops than me

[brazen wolf]

Alright ty

[azure pond]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-Victus-15-6-FHD-Laptop-Intel-Corei5-13420H-16GB-RAM-512GB-SSD-RTX-4050-Windows-11-Home-15-fa1082wm/5687320790?clickid=StPV85VA-xyNT4QWKlRPX1rOUkCTHLSssVJ9T40&irgwc=1&sourceid=imp_StPV85VA-xyNT4QWKlRPX1rOUkCTHLSssVJ9T40&veh=aff&wmlspartner=imp_1883484&affiliates_ad_id=565706&campaign_id=9383&sharedid=

[brazen wolf]

Will either of these run games like FN and apex well?

[azure pond]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-Nitro-V-15-15-6-FHD-165Hz-Gaming-Laptop-Intel-Core-i7-13620H-32GB-RAM-512GB-SSD-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4060-8GB-Obsidian-Black/5313849568?classType=REGULAR&from=/search&clickid=StPV85VA-xyNT4QWKlRPX1rOUkCTHIwEsVJ9T40&irgwc=1&sourceid=imp_StPV85VA-xyNT4QWKlRPX1rOUkCTHIwEsVJ9T40&veh=aff&wmlspartner=imp_1883484&affiliates_ad_id=565706&campaign_id=9383&sharedid=

[azure pond]

Yeah, the one with the igpu will have much better battery life and temps but will run games worse

Gpu perf is around a 1650

[brazen wolf]

On this one what is SDRAM

[azure pond]

Just laptop ram

[brazen wolf]

oh 😭

Alright i might go with that one then

ty for the help, i have ZERO knowledge on laptops 💀

[thin bolt]

Check this out on @Newegg:HP OMEN 25L GT15-0340QD Gaming Desktop Intel Core i5-12400 2.5 GHz up to 4.4GHz NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 16GB DDR4 RAM 512GB SSD Windows 11 Home, White - 436G2AV-I004 https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-0005-03N34?Item=9SIAKVUKE09590&tpk=1

[hard creek]

Thoughts on 1 vs 2?

1: https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-Victus-15-6-FHD-Laptop-Intel-Corei5-13420H-16GB-RAM-512GB-SSD-RTX-4050-Windows-11-Home-15-fa1082wm/5687320790?classType=REGULAR&athbdg=L2000

2: https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-Victus-15-6-inch-FHD-144Hz-Gaming-Laptop-AMD-Ryzen-5-8645HS-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4050-8GB-DDR4-512GB-SSD-Mica-Silver-2024/5395277312

[fair moon]

I'd probably get the Intel one. I don't think the AMD CPU is worth $150 more

[bold willow]

Is this the best monitor I can get sub $200? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1784672-REG

[bold willow]

Get #1

Usually I'd say ryzen, but there isn't really an upgrade path for laptops lol.

[azure pond]

yes

[azure pond]

would need to uphrade ram for the second

which is easy

8645hs will be better and i believe more efficient

[tawdry dragon]

this is $180 after coupon, good deal? https://www.ebay.com/itm/256271376641

[azure pond]

I'm weary of panel quality

[azure pond]

also imo mini led is a bigger difference than 240hz w this monitor here

[marsh sphinx]

pc is done, thank you all ^^

gonna do some mods to it in the future but i’ve been quite happy with it

[tawdry dragon]

but it's also low end mini led, which I hear can look like crap

[tawdry dragon]

your wish has come true

[azure pond]

it isn't

lol

it's a very nice monitor on par with the new AOC mini led that recently came out

[tawdry dragon]

oh nice

[covert apex]

hey @azure pond! Would you say that latest PC deal you put in the Tech-Deals channel is really good?
Im trying to find a good PC for a friend but trying to not break the bank..

[azure pond]

at that price 100%

you won't find similar value period

[covert apex]

Do pre-builds like that still use cheap components/use propriety parts that you cant switch out?

[azure pond]

you'll likely want to add more storage, prolly upgrade the ram at some point but those are both cheap uphrades

[azure pond]

yes

they're not as bad as omen or dell pre builts

but you're very limited in terms of upgradability

if upgradability is important i would either buy a used build or build your own with some used parts

[covert apex]

How trusting are used parts generally? Ive always worried how someone treated their stuff, if they had proper cooling, etc

[azure pond]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BJgnQd

that's all new but the cpu is off aliexpress, and you'd want a used gpu

used gpus are fairly simple

[covert apex]

cpu off aliexpress o-o is that normal?

[azure pond]

yeah, it's made by amd directly but they're not sold in the US

it's jsut a 7600 with no igpu and a slight downclock, and then shipped here from some other countries

[covert apex]

Would you say thats all pretty solid for someone doing gaming and tying to stream?
She is doing a laptop/ps4 setup right now and thats just..

[azure pond]

you could also do this, but you get much worse cpu perf and upgradability https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YwmCJn

[fair moon]

Usually pretty good, and ebay has decent buyer protection

[azure pond]

yep, but in terms of performance the pre built is far better

no way you'll find even close to 3070 tier perf in the remaining budget

[covert apex]

ah. So if its more of a 'hold her off for 2 years while she saves for better'
The prebuild is a better option?

[azure pond]

in terms of quality and upgradability, diy on am5 (7000 series cpus) is far better

[covert apex]

Which option would you go?

[azure pond]

I'd say if she plans to keep the pc without changing the cpu or gpu for 3+ years, pre built

if she wants ease of upgradability, especiailly sooner rather than later id go the 7500f list

though a better mobo isnt a bad idea w upgradability in mind

oh wait

what games is she looking to play?

8600g is a valid choice, comes with a solid igpu near the 1650 in terms of performance

and still gets her on am5 for good upgradability

[covert apex]

Her main is Dead by Daylight and Rocket League. Not sure what else she plays

[azure pond]

8600g could def handle those

I would say ideally something along these lines https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vbVFTM

better psu that can handle literally any gpu aside from the 3090 and 3090 ti (yes it can handle a 4090), better case w more gpu clearance, better motherboard

and better ssd

the only corner cut is ram, it's a good kit but you have to set the speed and timings yourself for it to run well (youtube video and 10-30min will handle that easily)

[covert apex]

hmmm. Is it pretty straight forward to do for someone that is unknown tech savyness

also are you aware of any god deal on a nice cpu cooler? Looks like this case comes with fans in it so I guess those can be skipped unless they are garbage

[normal spear]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zrP8TW/thermalright-assassin-spirit-120-evo-689-cfm-cpu-cooler-as120-evo

Anything thermalright imo

You can get some non rgb options as well

[covert apex]

geeze these things are so cheap LOLL

[normal spear]

Lmao yeah, very good price to perf

And im gonna assume you arent overclocking anything besides the ram

[covert apex]

nah I dont even live local to her. She has been one of my twitch mods for a while XD
So I gotta hope between her and her bf, that they can figure it out LOL

[normal spear]

Good luck to her then lol, hope they can figure out how to piece stuff together

Pc building guides will come in handy

[covert apex]

yeahh I did my first 2 builds just following youtube videos. But my 2 recent I just got custom from PowerGPU cause I was lazy and couldnt get my hands on the Y70 Cases

[normal spear]

For me half the fun is the challenge, i also build in mini itx cases because i think i just hate myself

[covert apex]

BRUHHH LOL

[normal spear]

My next build will be my first not itx tho

Lemme find the case

https://www.amazon.com/Micro-ATX-Included-Supports-Horizontal-CA-1Y4-00SKWN-00/dp/B0D9VNPNMZ?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

For some reason i really like it

Idk what it is about it

[covert apex]

oooo that looks great! I wanted a case like that a long time ago but if I got it, I wanted custom loop. But custom loop is just impractical

[normal spear]

It def is

I dont plan on doing any loops but if i ever get anything that needs it in the future thatll be the perfect case for it

[covert apex]

I just got 2 fat y70s because why care about space

[normal spear]

Who needs space fr

Its all about the aesthetic

[covert apex]

Yesssss

aesthetic is far more important than practicallity

[normal spear]

Unless its a chair

Idc if its ugly asf, if its comfy it comfy

[covert apex]

okok true. I have had my time with a gaming chair but it doesnt beat the herman miller

nothing beats the coziness of a big, fat, worn out leather one tho

[azure pond]

The 8600g does have a stock cooler that will function fine

[normal spear]

Honestly the herman miller is overpriced imo, theyre obviously great but unironically the novos are one of my favourite lines for chairs

[azure pond]

But a diff cooler would be better, functionally wise it won't make much of a difference

[normal spear]

https://chairbuilder.sitonit.net/#category?familyType=Novo

Ive never had a chair from em i didnt like

Although they have a couple sketchy ones

That i never bought

Because they looked almost scammish 😭

[covert apex]

interestinggg. There are so many models its hard to know which you would like

So wait, back to the pc. Where does one find a non garbage gpu to go with this build?

[normal spear]

I assume the reason bacca chose that cpu was because of the igpu

[normal spear]

These are very non demanding titles especially if she does 1080p

Do you know if she plays anything more demanding?

[covert apex]

mmmm

lets say hypothetically she wanted to play the new cod.
I assume this cant handle that?

or fortnite

[normal spear]

Theres a very big difference between those 2

[covert apex]

I thought fortnite was pretty demanding at one point? Did that change? 😂 I dont keep up with that game

[normal spear]

She could play the new one but a fair bit lower settings id say

[normal spear]

Well it has to work on mobile somehow 😭

[covert apex]

its on mobile? 😭

[normal spear]

Not mobile but like the switch

[covert apex]

I play sudoku on my phone

[covert apex]

oh LOL

[normal spear]

I think of the switch as mobile lol

Regardless, with 1650 perf she could play those games

To give an idea for the new cod benchmarking has said you need around a 3060 to have max settings w/o upscaling at 1080 and reach 60fps

Technical city is pretty accurate from my experience, and if the 1650 is about half of that im guessing youll be dropping to medium settings to reach a good target fps

Also most cod games i recall are more cpu intensive anyway

[covert apex]

so something like this?
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1650-Ventus-OCV3/dp/B0CK9SRJWW/ref=sr_1_2?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.wfCs1ZuGzlMlbq6TL8RmUbs3AuTs_KkX29KuwI0eqmj4orEUJSJoV0az6--QhJXLZuHagcm7-pVBjds2nnt_nF2DJl2qIFmL5i27IjPYwA6l4W4pUPdarQ5oRyGOjZj5IYCe7IicgYtB8VGDzjEhZDbAca1sBcnKozzf5mQHikyV6LZbSQijNcnVjxrPsRi3zafHXXWquhCDjwXYvn5cm2Nu0R5QLU8jFnAKg66gacE.lHXgsTmXN7SVmrYUxY2McXmjSJKwxrE50hnQOeG92GY&dib_tag=se&keywords=GTX+1650&qid=1731365242&sr=8-2

oop thats a long ling

*link

[normal spear]

I dont know the specifics on igpus but based on what bacca said yeah

[azure pond]

Passmark gpu comparison is decent

Ane has igpu benchmarks

Also i can't read up but pls don't buy a 1650 for more than $40

[normal spear]

Lol yeah

[covert apex]

[azure pond]

4gb vram is very limiting, and it's just not a good gpu anymore

1650 perf in an igpu is good because the cpu doesn't cost you much extra, and gives you the upgrade path of am5

But a 1650 itself isn't a smart choice imo

[normal spear]

^

If you really want a budget gpu to stay with until you can upgrade down the line id go for a used 7600 or similar

[azure pond]

Something like a 1070 should be pretty cheap, and 8gb vram

(Again used)

[covert apex]

oh wait, so are you saying this cpu as a 1650 built into it or something? I dont know much about igpu

[normal spear]

Pretty much never buy new at budget

[azure pond]

Basically

It's based on amds rdna2 architecture, which is 6000 series gpus

And it is very close to a 1650 in performance

And its built into the 8600g/8700g

[normal spear]

Igpu stands for integrated graphics processing unit

[azure pond]

8700g igpu is a bit better and has two more cores, but gaming wise it's not worth the extra

[normal spear]

The gpu is integrated into the cpu

[azure pond]

So then you can drop a much better gpu in down the line, but still have a solid pc for now

[covert apex]

so it can just run off that with no actual gpu? thats cool

[normal spear]

It is the gpu

[azure pond]

Yep!

My 13600k has an igpu, it's just far far worse

Like it can't even run minecraft

[normal spear]

Igpus are also just generally great to have in general

[normal spear]

Thats terrifying 😭

I ran battlefield 1 at about 30fps 1080p on mine

[covert apex]

so even with components like that, it would be able to stream and game?

[normal spear]

Not the best gameplay but it worked lol

[normal spear]

Not to the best ability but enough to get by

Buying a cpu like that has a bit more of a future proofing hint to it

Preparing to upgrade in the future versus getting the top specs for a cheap price now

[azure pond]

Yep, it won't run games like bo6 or cyberpunk but it'll run most games

[covert apex]

So I do have a 1080 laying around. would it help to thow that in there as well?

[azure pond]

Oh

That changes everything lmao

100%

Back to 7500f or 7600

[normal spear]

Yeah a LOT lmao

You just upgraded the cpu

[covert apex]

LOLL I wasnt even thinking about it. I was gonna throw it on the marketplace but I guess I could ship it to her

[azure pond]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/28Bqsp

For reference 7500f>8600g

8000 series has strong igpus, but has less cache and whatever other differences that hurt performance

It won't make much of a difference with a 1080, but means she has more cpu headroom to upgrade gpu down the line

And 1080 is a great card. It can run any game that's currently out afaik

[covert apex]

oh really? Big W then. Wasnt sure that card was still viable

[normal spear]

Its a 1080p beast imo

[azure pond]

I just bought a 1080 ti lol

Though it ded

Sadly

[normal spear]

Rip

[azure pond]

Dudes giving me a refund though and he might have a 2080 ti available

[normal spear]

Thatd be a nice upgrade

[azure pond]

Def

[normal spear]

2080 ti is more comparable to a 3070 if i recall correctly?

[azure pond]

My 3060 ti has been dying so I needed a temp card till I have money

[covert apex]

Hopefully this card still works. It shouuuuld but its been laying arounda while

[azure pond]

Yeah

[azure pond]

Id throw it in your rig to test before making any decisions for the new build

Alr i gotta run for a bit, gotta drive to class

[covert apex]

byeee thanks for the help!

[azure pond]

Feel free to ping me if you've got anything to ask

Np!

[normal spear]

Gl with class bacca

[azure pond]

Ty

[covert apex]

so.. this should run better than a ps4 right?

[normal spear]

That and its not locked behind memberships and stupid sony interface lol

[covert apex]

LOL

cough I work for sony cough

[azure pond]

1080 ti is about ps5 performance

[covert apex]

HAHAHA

[azure pond]

So ps4 isn't even comparable lol

[normal spear]

Ps4 is roughly a 750 ti

[covert apex]

Sheeeesh really? I didnt realize the consoles were THAT far behind

[normal spear]

Consoles are the value for money market in the short term

Well until cough the ps5 pro poked its head out

[covert apex]

so expensive for a console

[normal spear]

At the end of the day this should be a really good upgrade for them, hope they enjoy it

[covert apex]

yeah for sure!!

big dubs

[azure pond]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LaptopDeals/comments/1goxtse/walmart_early_access_black_friday_deal_hp_victus/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Also a valid choice

[marsh sphinx]

Been happy with my pc so far, runs amazing even on half life alyx with a 1050 ti (surprisingly). My only issue, is after 45-55 minutes of playing, it starts to have massive lag spikes and decrease in quality, and it will constantly every 5 seconds kick me out of SteamVR. I also plan to get body trackers that also connect via the wifi , so I'm wondering if its because of my poor-quality GPU or will I need a better wifi connection?

[jolly inlet]

Probably running out of VRAM

[marsh sphinx]

figured, gonna buy my new gpu in a couple of weeks anyway

[fair moon]

Yeah 1050ti is below min spec

[shut spoke]

Oos now but wouldnt this have been a great deal?

[fair moon]

4090 alone is $1800

[normal spear]

A good deal would be an understatement

Id be scared whats wrong with it 💀

[fair moon]

official lenovo refurb

[trim pier]

which website/app did this deal pop up in

but it's amazing deal just refrub obviously, it's probably a dell equalivent of a prime z690, possibly decent OEM cooler, and a psu thats just barely passes any laws to be called "safe"

[shut spoke]

Slickdeals

Went oos about an hour before and people mentioned potential issues with the 13900 as they might be damaged and returned

[azure pond]

Hey @bold willow that's a solid deal but I believe it's a scam seller

Only one review on the sellers account

Yeah its fake

[jolly inlet]

Deleted. Definitely scammer.

[jolly inlet]

In which case you contact Intel to replace it, which is inconvenient but far from the worst thing

[bold willow]

Sorry.

Showed up on newegg and got excited.

[jolly inlet]

It's an easy trap to fall for when it shows up on a site you think is reputable like Amazon

Meanwhile Amazon actively does not care that the scammers all use the same Shenzhen, China address and when their ratings fall they just make a new account

It would be so easy to fix the scammer problem on Amazon. Just enforce a policy where they can't cash out until the item is received and the customer confirms it's correct (or a week after delivery to account for non-response).

But Amazon has no incentive to do that because they take a large cut of every sale, so they're not only complicit with the scammers but also actively profiting with them.

[brittle lagoon]

tbf some of them are just random resellers, that address is in sichuan and not shenzhen for example

[jolly inlet]

Drop shippers are as bad as scammers though

[bold willow]

Drop shippers who lie about their product are as bad as scammer

I get pissed off at those content creators who claim to invent or create something they buy off aliexpress for a 10th of the price.

I was at a vintage fair and someone was selling these awesome looking PvZ and Pokemon Crochet stuff they told people they made themselves (Costing anywhere from $25 to $100). Found the same ones on etsy for $7.

[jolly inlet]

There doesn't even need to be a lie involved. You could have a normal problem with a good product that you received, but you'll have no warranty support to cover it and the seller will never respond.

[normal spear]

Drop shippers

[bold willow]

Make a quick buck and dissapear.

Make a new TikTok and advertise another product.

[azure pond]

Nw

[stable knoll]

I have r5 3500x and I wanna upgrade it without paying too much any recommendations?(I dont buy intel)

[normal spear]

Ive done the exact same before lmao

[grand orbit]

5700x3d if it's available to you would be an Amazing upgrade, if not 5700x or 5800x3d

[normal spear]

How much is too much

[stable knoll]

i guess amazon or newegg doesnt sell 5800x3d

[normal spear]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VCJ2SHD?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[stable knoll]

$439.99 its not overpriced?

[normal spear]

Its absolutely overpriced lmao

Imo

Most id spend on one of those would be 250 300

[jolly inlet]

It's 2 generations old, they don't make it any more

[stable knoll]

yeah thats for sure

[grand orbit]

Which is why i gave the options

You in the US capon?

[stable knoll]

ye

[jolly inlet]

It's currently about $350 used on ebay

[grand orbit]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3ZKscf/amd-ryzen-7-5700x3d-3-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100001503wof

200 flat

[stable knoll]

do you think the price will drop even further on Black Friday

[grand orbit]

Probably not and if it does i doubt by a whole lot