tech-deals-discussion

[marsh sphinx]

it’s like 1 ms then turns to 130 after a couple hours when i run !ping on cms

not sure i’d have to ask

[brittle lagoon]

If you're getting ping spikes and you're on wifi, try Ethernet

[marsh sphinx]

i am on ethernet

i connected my pc to ethernet, but it connects to a booster, not the actual router itself

[brittle lagoon]

Use https://testmy.net/ and do combined

Oh uh

That's basically just wifi then

[marsh sphinx]

so a better wi-fi card would be better then?

[brittle lagoon]

There's a lot of possible things that are happening, either the connection from your modem/router to your Wi-Fi extender is poor, or the connection from your extender to you is poor, or there's something up with your modem/router, or there's something up with your extender, or there's something up with your onboard Ethernet chip or wifi chip

First thing to do is prob updating Ethernet and wifi drivers

Then try just wifi if Ethernet keeps having issues

[marsh sphinx]

i think i might just see how my wi-fi is once i get my new pc because my current one has a crappy hard drive which is making it impossible to use

[brittle lagoon]

Then try your connection directly connected to your modem/router without the extender if possible

Usually a better wifi card won't change much but there's a lot of possibilities

[marsh sphinx]

i sit like right underneath the router

it’s right upstairs from me

[brittle lagoon]

Then you might want to try unplugging or disabling the extender and directly connecting to WiFi

[marsh sphinx]

that’ll be a bit of a project

i can’t run an ethernet cord to upstairs

[brittle lagoon]

Does your PC not have any onboard wifi?

Ideal to try is get some ultra long Ethernet cord to test but that might be pretty impractical

[jolly inlet]

@marsh sphinx No filter dodging

[marsh sphinx]

mb

[marsh sphinx]

no

[marsh sphinx]

yeah it could easily get torn and there’s no shortcut to the upstairs

are you sure i can’t just get a better router?

[brittle lagoon]

Better modem/router/wifi card are nice and all but if the problem is something else, you spend money for practically no benefit

[marsh sphinx]

i’ll have to see what i’m promised to get for the wi-fi

[high radish]

Does g305 have hot swappable switches ?

[torpid night]

It's Logitech. You'd expect it? 💀

[stoic crest]

buy asussy

also $25 mouse is $25

it's not even bad

(speaking from my own experience)

it's heavy yes but im not looking to rack up headshots

[cinder kiln]

Anythings hot swappable with enough hot solder on it

[balmy lake]

I wont buy another mouse that doesn’t do auto switching hyperfast scrolling. I hate logitech but i am spoiled AF by my 3s Master.

[jolly inlet]

I like my G502 but I understand why people don't like Logitech. I've had to repair my switches and do a RMA for double clicking. They're far from reliable for heavy use, but it fits every need I have.

[tawdry dragon]

What's the best GPU under $200 used? For gaming only

[balmy lake]

My issues lie more on the software/driver side. Like I understand advances in tech. But why cant we have all our current tech use the same software? There’s the Gaming software, G Hub, Options, Options +, etc.

[stoic crest]

6650xt or something

[tawdry dragon]

Alr that's what I thought, but 3060 ti is just bordering on the price

[stoic crest]

3060ti is also good

[cinder kiln]

Or the new one...mouse subscriptions...

[jolly inlet]

It turned out that was not a real thing

[cinder kiln]

An idea from a logi exec yes

Ridiculous she even said it tho

Logitech also is on the pretty bad side for double clicking iirc, though the newer gen ones should be a lot better with optical

If not, razer basilisk kinda nice for that

[cinder kiln]

Titan Xp/1080 ti

[jolly inlet]

I haven't run the Logitech software in years. I set up onboard profiles and then uninstalled.

[cinder kiln]

Best way to use it

Abandon all bloatware

[thin bolt]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/135156164028?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126619120788?

[cinder kiln]

Yeah 2080s is good

[jolly inlet]

Blowers are LOUD but if you can live with that then go for it

[thin bolt]

@tawdry dragon more options for you ^

[cinder kiln]

5700XT is also extremely hard to pass up

[fair moon]

Yeah especially for a 2080 I'd definitely pay that extra $10 and get the gigabyte card

[balmy lake]

No on-board profiles on the 3s. But its built for the office, not gaming. Still…. AUTOSWITCHING HYPERSCROLL!!! lol. The extra side scroll wheel is nice too. But again, great for web pages, spreadsheets, and architectural drawings. Maybe not so much for gaming.

Although…. Thinking about it, could you imagine a strafing move using a side scroll wheel? 😈

[light holly]

Side scrolling game 😀

[marsh sphinx]

is $100 usd too little for a ryzen 5 5600?

[grand orbit]

you talking used?

[marsh sphinx]

no just open box

[grand orbit]

100 is a bit steep for open box 5600 imo

[marsh sphinx]

steep?

[grand orbit]

expensive

a brand new 5600 is 117

[marsh sphinx]

yea

ive never used it

never been put into a mobo even

[grand orbit]

oh you want to sell it? that means its used practically

youre not going to get 100

unless you manage to sell to someone clueless

for personal sellers as long as it works used = open box

the reason it doesnt matter is because youre still taking a risk buying from a rando instead of a company

[marsh sphinx]

i see

[jolly inlet]

And likely no warranty support

[marsh sphinx]

quite dissapointing but i understand

[azure pond]

On ebay 100 seems very doable for open box

But you lose some of that to sellers fees anyways

[grand orbit]

thats suprising

[jolly inlet]

Exactly. eBay takes about 15% so you take home about $85.

If you're selling to an individual then you don't need to account for the fees

[fleet marlin]

Could try for maybe 90 on your local markets. This is the only time I might regret a purchase is trying to resell and/or get a certain amount.

[celest zodiac]

sorry for the blurry image

I need to buy a laptop for college, and these are hte ones that they suggested, which on should I buy?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1082275811735896154/1274842530525216959/Screenshot_20240818-171329.png?ex=66c3b920&is=66c267a0&hm=829051ec9f0496f52a82e72381dff5fe9bc90499ad23059eb309f1e274ad258c&

[jolly inlet]

What kind of a budget do you have and are you in the US?

[celest zodiac]

I am in the U.S.

And the bugget is negotiable depending on which is best, but I dont think ill be spending $2,400, the most expensive one

[jolly inlet]

There's a good option in #tech-deals
#tech-deals message

You'd need to upgrade the RAM but that's easy

Other than that it fits all the requirements for the "best" option at a much better price

The memory you can use
https://www.newegg.com/mushkin-enhanced-64gb-262-pin-ddr5-so-dimm/p/0RM-001Z-000Y2

[broken token]

Iam looking into getting a new build... Im not much in rush because im in school and so I dont have that much time for gaming... BUT, games like PoE keep crashing on me all-the-time and im thinking my GPU is dying.

Is this year good time to upgrade? Or are there some cool things coming out later this year or early next?

[thin bolt]

If you have the money, new 50xx series is launching in a few months. But if you don’t, what’s your budget?

[jolly inlet]

What GPU do you have and how much RAM do you have?

PoE has had some memory management issues

[broken token]

I was thinking 3-4k?

[jolly inlet]

That would be enough for a 5090 and then some if you mean USD

[broken token]

I have Gigabyte AORUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Xtreme Edition 11GB Graphic Cards GV-N108TAORUS X-11GD

and then I have 32gb ram

[jolly inlet]

That's still a quite respectable gaming GPU, and plenty of RAM, so it could just be that you need a driver cleanup

?ddu

[wraith panther]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[thin bolt]

If anything, just an upgrade to a 4080 super and some 7800x3d style builds would work for em if he wants to just straight upgrade to the best.

[broken token]

oh nice, never thought of clean up... I updated to the latest drivers but it just keep crashing like CRAZY and it literally made me burn out lol

[hard creek]

@azure pond Think this is worth the $400 more as opposed to the 4050 version?https://discordapp.com/channels/500085440221806603/500102969702875156/1274771654479974441

[hard creek]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-Victus-15-6-inch-FHD-144Hz-Gaming-Laptop-AMD-Ryzen-5-8645HS-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4050-8GB-DDR4-512GB-SSD-Mica-Silver-2024/5395277312

[azure pond]

Both are great prices, it just depends what you care about really

The 6gb on the 4050 will be somewhat limiting gaming wise

[jolly inlet]

That HP also has a TGP of 75W, quite low power

[stoic crest]

75w is ok tho

you only lose 5 fps or so

4050 optimally runs on 90-100w

past that it's diminishing returns/useless

my tuf has 140w config but it never reaches past 90w or so

[jolly inlet]

Yeah it's not the worst, like the HP omen that's only 50W

[stoic crest]

yikes

[jolly inlet]

But it will impact performance a bit

[stoic crest]

not too much at least

within a margin of error

[jolly inlet]

If it was a 4070 then it would be a problem

[azure pond]

Cough cough msi

[stoic crest]

surprisingly 4060 scales better tho

vs 4050 at the same power consumption

[jolly inlet]

Fortunately HP has you covered on that too with a 65W 4070 on an Omen Transcend

[stoic crest]

4060 is the most efficient it seems

45w comparable to 75w 4050

[jolly inlet]

Probably binned better so lower voltage?

[stoic crest]

i guess so

it's on another chip anyway

4050 is ad107

nvm it's also ad107

better binned then

[cinder kiln]

Amazing board deal there

Wow

That's a rare better buy than an Asrock for AM5

Might be Gigabyte is trying to push out older stock and run down SKUs for next gen, I wouldn't hesitate on that one

[jolly inlet]

That's possible with the new chipset due in about 2-3 months

[fleet marlin]

Sure seemed like a real solid 1 to show for $121. Heatsinks on vrms, normal 2 ssd, wifi6, typical 4 usb 2 alongside all the other goodies. Even flashback button on far left of io.

[jolly inlet]

The wifi 6 on AMD boards is barely worth mentioning since it's barely usable anyway

They had some kind of deal with Realtek iirc and they exclusively provide chips to AMD now, but those chips are always dropping connections and taking forever to reconnect

At least the wifi card on this board in particular looks like a standard one so it's easy to swap to something better like AX210

[fleet marlin]

Oh that's neat. Adapter in Low pcie slot option too if needed. I might've gotten this mobo & a 7600(X) if I didn't just get a 790 for the 14.6K

[balmy lake]

They also put those SMA connections in a good spot. I wanna slap the engineers that put them between the USB ports.

Like my MSI board. Honestly probably fo the best but one antenna goes _ one goes /

[daring depot]

this a good deal?

I mainly play valorant and im sick of using 2k already

[jolly inlet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q8grxr/msi-g2412f-240-1920-x-1080-180-hz-monitor-g2412f

If the goal is cheap, decent quality, and high refresh 1080p

[daring depot]

not really

i have the budget, just want good quality color

and 1080p

[jolly inlet]

How many fps can you push in 1080p

[daring depot]

I have a 1660s rn, might upgrade in a few years but for now im thinking i barely go past 120 anyway

scratch that, i run a 3070 on my laptop

[jolly inlet]

Ok so 240 is out of the question then

Laptop 3070 can get close to a desktop 3060 with the right power limit so it could possibly do 240 on medium

If the CPU can keep up

Which it probably can

[daring depot]

probably can

11800h

240 seems like all I need honestly

[azure pond]

What's happening?

Do you just not get high enough fps?

[daring depot]

new 1080p monitor request

no 2k is too big for me

[azure pond]

?

[jolly inlet]

Yeah 11800h and 3070m can push 300+

[lilac prawn]

I hate 1440p

(I do not)

[azure pond]

Like the monitor is too big?

[daring depot]

too big

[azure pond]

27"?

[lilac prawn]

As in

The text is too small or its 27"

[jolly inlet]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B45998BM

[daring depot]

valorant purposes

[azure pond]

You can change the ratio

[daring depot]

also i wanna play more games on higher performance

[lilac prawn]

Increase scaling

[azure pond]

So people and heads look bigger

Bc im just saying

That $220 monitor upgrade is a $220 6650xt

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NDvdnQ/xfx-radeon-rx-6650-xt-8-gb-speedster-swft-210-core-video-card-rx-665x8dfdy

[daring depot]

welp

[jolly inlet]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/odyssey-g4-g40b-s27bg40

[daring depot]

yeah i kinda thought that was the verdict

damnit. getting a 2k monitor on tiktok then

[jolly inlet]

It's your choice in the end

[thin bolt]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/156209205173?

[stoic crest]

not bad

[mighty pagoda]

https://www.newegg.ca/sama-blb-case-fan/p/1YF-00SK-00020?Item=9SIB41PJT48562

guys is this good

[thin bolt]

Why don’t I have $250

[jolly inlet]

Wha

[thin bolt]

yes

[torpid night]

12GB Storage
huh 💀

[thin bolt]

Probably meant 12TB

[azure pond]

No, he meant 12gb ram

8+4gb

Look at the sticks in his pc

[thin bolt]

Ah

[torpid night]

Then what about the "16GB RAM" in the description?

[azure pond]

Oh huh

[cloud hornet]

120gb storage

[mighty pagoda]

12gb ssd

256 gb ram

[azure pond]

@stoic crest thoughts?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/156363107184?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=92chrSivS8C&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[lilac prawn]

It looks good

[azure pond]

@civic sun

[cinder kiln]

Finally something I can recommend for a basic laptop

[torpid night]

See like how hard is it to make a decent laptop like that

Lenovo cooked lol

I'll say that I didn't like my Ideapad while I had it though (but this was a couple years ago)

[high radish]

Been using ideapad slim 5i for awhile and I'm happy with it . Screen is trash but aluminum case is great

Grabbed it for 400$ . i5 13th gen with 16gb ddr5 and 500gb ssd

[torpid night]

I had a weird audio stutter with my Ideapad (I'd imagine it would be fixed by now). I think it was getting better after every BIOS update but they didn't release a BIOS update until 2 years after the previous BIOS update on one point 💀

I had to go through some workaround to get audio to work. I eventually gave the laptop to my gf (who really needed an upgrade) only for the mic to be super quiet for no reason at all (laptop audio I swear)

Tired of laptop audio bruh. Always garbage for no reason. It actually makes me want to get her a MacBook for when she needs a laptop for when we call (she's stuck on an iPad for now which is fine for us)

[cinder kiln]

Realtek and audio problems

It's almost a lottery to NOT get problems

[high radish]

I hmm I mostly using it with earbuds anyways while having coffee

[cinder kiln]

Most of my audio problems on all pc's have been related to realtek

AM4 is infamous for it

And those use...?

[torpid night]

Not even. It's just some crappy third-party audio program that works with the hardware audio. My previous three laptops have all had something goofy (Asus with Synapse, Lenovo with something else [forgot], and Dell with Waves Maxxaudio)

[cinder kiln]

Damn

Well the fact that it sounds like realtek speaks volumes (haha geddit) to just how bad the pc world's most prosperous codec supplier is

[torpid night]

Just some third-party crap that they have to put on laptops for some reason. It's not even a single Dell laptop too. I have multiple ones (some of them are totally not stolen from a previous job) and they all have the same crap

Sometimes I'll try to turn up the volume and it'll buffer the YouTube video I'm watching 💀

[cinder kiln]

My android has a funny trait, very common apparently

[torpid night]

(Preinstalled audio hijack software)

[cinder kiln]

If you plug certain headphones in, the google assistant goes insane

It'll randomly spam the volume up and down, and google will start randomly reporting the weather and listening to you be an ass to it

[torpid night]

Make an open-source operating system
Pair it with the worst audio software

And it's always audio too. They could've played with any other piece of hardware on the computer but they choose audio, the most annoying one to get comfortable with

[cinder kiln]

I yearn for the day realtek nahimic has a day zero virus so they can finally nuke that 1998 program

[torpid night]

I'm not the only one who notices this or annoyed by this, right?

[cinder kiln]

Absolutely agree

I just want sound

Why do they complicate things

[high radish]

Grabbed this laptop for 400$

Btw where's windows 12

[torpid night]

Like I don't need a program to determine which device to automatically route audio to. Windows already does this by default. Why have a Window launch being like "Which type of audio device did you just plug in?" just so you can give it some crappy software-based EQ that my laptop's hardware can barely handle while watching YouTube

I wonder if Framework has these issues

[cinder kiln]

Windows currently cooking up new system specs requiring "A.I hardware" only just give it time

[torpid night]

I hate that laptop reviews don't mention this type of thing either

[cinder kiln]

It's tremendously annoying

[torpid night]

I can rant all day about it lol. I just woke up

I wonder if HP has some audio crap. I heavily dislike HP but I'd like them more if they don't come with any extra audio software

I kinda wanna try a spare HP laptop my parents might have

[fringe olive]

That SSD in tech deals is not the mp33, but the ms30, which is a M.2 SATA SSD. Or am I missing something?

[torpid night]

Nah I think you're right

[cinder kiln]

Yep, it checks out

Out of stock anyway

[torpid night]

Plus it's $90 (unless I didn't see how it would be $60)

[cinder kiln]

Still not too bad for what it was

[azure pond]

It was the mp33 earlier at least

Went oos, and they must've changed where the link goes

[torpid night]

Wrong link maybe? I found this in the URL:

[high radish]

I saw ms30 tho . Bought 2 of them just as extra storage since it's almost same price as hdd lol

[grand orbit]

Calm down won't be for a good few years

Win 11 is only less than 3 years old

[jolly inlet]

I still find it funny that Windows 10 was supposed to be the "last version" of Windows that they would iterate on. Until they fired the guy in charge that said that.

[trim pier]

So what’s after windows 11..

13?

[thin bolt]

12
A much better version of 11 probably

[torpid night]

Bro really thought 13 comes after 11

[opal flume]

Windows 12, Windows 11 but it prohibits you from using anything other than Microsoft products rather than just harass you about it

[torpid night]

It makes me want to try dailying Linux for a bit lol

[lilac prawn]

realtek sucks

windows 12 will probably be worse

[trim pier]

Personally I can’t wait for apple and Microsoft to have one big merger

So then we can only use Microsoft/Apple products and have our data constantly sold off

[jolly inlet]

lol wishful thinking. It's going to have AI garbage everywhere it can. A real privacy nightmare, even more so than 11 is.

[thin bolt]

AI craze is seeming to go down
As a significant amount of companies reported losses with related projects

Hopium

[jolly inlet]

Only because there's no real AI products yet, and most hardware still isn't capable.
Once more hardware is capable, they'll try to shove more useless features down the pipeline.

Samsung got exposed real quick with their "on device" AI processing of images. It gave an error if you weren't connected to the Internet.

The new pixel phones are mostly cloud processed too

[lilac prawn]

Suss

Sending it to their servers for processing smh

[azure pond]

@grand orbit what does this show for you?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CGLYMRFX?tag=pcp0f-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[grand orbit]

£340 7700xt pulse sold by Amazon

[azure pond]

Ah was showing 283 for me

Ty

[grand orbit]

No worries, mabe it was for a few mins or something or excluding vat because you're in the us or something

[azure pond]

Prob excluding vat, since it still shows the same price

Def weird though

[grand orbit]

Change shipping location to UK in top left maybe?

[azure pond]

Ah yep that did it

[jolly inlet]

That's why I'll usually use a VPN and private browsing for international price checks

[grand orbit]

@worthy junco can you add a description to your posting thanks

[torpid night]

@worthy junco L

[jade pendant]

Intel core i7 6700 6th Gen ooof.

[stoic crest]

that is not a deal at all

it's i7 but it's old

[jade pendant]

h110 mobo

psu just says 800w on it

eek

[stoic crest]

yeah

[jade pendant]

how do you get win11 on there without tpm

[stoic crest]

you can

[jade pendant]

intel 6000 has tpm for that install?

ah

[stoic crest]

it's just that you gotta jump some hoops to get there

(aka putting an iso in rufus)

[jade pendant]

ah so edit install before install

probs not activated either

[stoic crest]

yep

[thin bolt]

We shouldn’t let people without a green role at least post there lmao

[jade pendant]

yeah that last one almost seems like a self promotion or something

[torpid night]

@worthy junco 11 downvotes is nuts lmaoooo just take that post down

[pallid geyser]

Naw leave it up it’s good for people to see bad deals too so they don’t go out and buy that lol

[thin bolt]

17 downvotes

[proper wagon]

I went to see why it was such a bad deal...

single stick of ram
budget mobo
i7 6700
almost definitely a sata ssd

basically paying for a bunch of trash around a 4060

[worthy junco]

damnnnnn I didnt even realize

17 downvotes is crazyyyyyy

so do i leave it up or take it down

[jade pendant]

take it down it's not good

[torpid night]

The world: take that garbage down!

This guy: should I take it down or leave it up?

[balmy lake]

Didn’t you know? That’s how they ship gpu’s nowadays. Well protected if it’s previously installed! 😂

[lilac prawn]

Intel guy be like:

"I'm investing "
Everyone: "do not do it"
"Imma do it anyway"
2 days later
"I messed up"

[torpid night]

Buying used be like:

• Intel Core i7
• RX 7900 XT
• 32GB of RAM
• 1TB SSD
  The actual CPU: an i7 3770

[thin bolt]

Literally

Hold on

I have a great example

https://www.ebay.com/itm/226086485791?

[torpid night]

"HD" I swear

[jolly inlet]

720p is HD after all

I mean... they're technically correct. But also so, so wrong. It's a full 18% worse in single core.

It's more like a 2600K

[thin bolt]

How would you even upgrade that

[prime crow]

you dont

[jolly inlet]

The 1680v2 will fit the same socket. It's fewer cores but they're stronger.
The 26xx series is meant for more, weaker cores.

[prime crow]

you run from that

[amber kelp]

Is this pc good?

[jolly inlet]

Kinda. Cyberpower isn't a great brand in general, but the PC itself would be ok at 1080p gaming.

How much is it?

[azure pond]

How much is it?

This isn't bad
https://www.ebay.com/itm/155770737761?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=92chrSivS8C&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[amber kelp]

For 1650

What about these

[stoic crest]

bleh

the lenovo is a much better deal

[azure pond]

it's 1750 plus an extra 8% off at checkout

So $1610

[amber kelp]

Is this pc good?

What about these

[thin bolt]

@amber kelp get this.

It’s better than all your choices.

[lilac prawn]

If he asks the same question again I'm gonna laugh

[normal spear]

My guy just refuses to take a deal

Prebuilts by big manufacturers 9/10 are gonna be less value and performance

Cyberpower specifically ive heard has rushed production, which is how they get their "lower" prices at the cost of the integrity of the whole building part youre skipping by getting a prebuilt in the first place.

Just get the used one, genuinely just better

[torpid night]

@azure pond You'd be surprised but that's actually those fan's normal price lol

[azure pond]

Sure you're not thinking of the c12c 3 pack?

[torpid night]

I think?

I'm pretty sure I looked at S12W fans either yesterday or a couple days ago and they were that price

I'm looking back at my invoice for two 3-packs, I paid $15.39 for those (these are the black version)

Looks like they're the same price as when I bought them a couple weeks ago (August 5 to be exact)

[fair moon]

curved IPS? or incorrect pictures?

This says it's VA.
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/a8543605
maybe the EDA270U is VA and there's a ED270U that's IPS

[flat junco]

@azure pond 6950

[azure pond]

ty

[thin bolt]

What would you guys sell 32GB 1333mhz ddr3 ram for?

[jolly inlet]

How many sticks is that

RDIMM or UDIMM

[thin bolt]

2
Not sure

[jolly inlet]

Ripjaws, that's a UDIMM

Wait you've got only 2 sticks of that? That's a 16GB kit

2x8GB

[jade pendant]

someone mentioned a scam site using neweggs name but err ones dm's are closed

[jolly inlet]

You can send it to me

I leave mine open

[thin bolt]

Dude is selling 4

[jade pendant]

i tried said no

[thin bolt]

Should’ve corrected

[jolly inlet]

$15-20

[thin bolt]

So not $50 for 2

[jolly inlet]

Try now, seems Discord reset my settings

[jolly inlet]

That's DDR5 price lol

[jade pendant]

clyde says denied :/

here it's this #general-chat message

[jolly inlet]

ok I see it, lemme check it out and I'll alert an admin if needed

[jade pendant]

thx

[umbral summit]

my pc blue screens and restarts every time i log into my pc does anyone know what’s wrong?

[cedar patio]

dont dual port

post

and dont post in an unrelated channel

[thin bolt]

We aren’t that strict here dawg

[cedar patio]

oh

i forgot this isnt the intel discord

sorry

[thin bolt]

Intel discord is wack

[cedar patio]

its fine

its wack too

[thin bolt]

But any upgrades/hardware changes recently? @umbral summit

[grand orbit]

If that 7900xtx was gone it's back just at 806 instead with LABORDAYOFF

Nevermind bacca reposted I'm blnd

[umbral summit]

no not at all

[tawdry dragon]

samsung, of all brands, having a good deal on an ssd??!?!?!!

[jolly inlet]

There's been a lot of fake drives and used being sold as new on Amazon, be careful

Even sold and shipped by Amazon

[cedar patio]

its real

no one would use the actual company name because thats just gonna be a gigantic lawsuit that would ruin their life forever

and thats not worth it to scam a few people

[jolly inlet]

Do you have it in your hand and the case cracked open to inspect the drive inside? If not then you can't tell.

[cedar patio]

its also sold by the real samsung account

so

[jolly inlet]

I've seen old broken drives with hacked firmware being sold as new very recently. Sold as Seagate but they were actually HGST/Hitachi.

It's sold and shipped by Amazon

[cedar patio]

cool

[jolly inlet]

To be clear, I never said this specific deal was a scam. Just that there are current scams running that people should be aware of.

[cedar patio]

yea def

[cinder kiln]

Reminds me of the gpu stealing scams

Someone swaps the box with weights, or sand

Or you get a refurbish with no physical core

[lilac prawn]

lmao

amazon aah scams

it's still inherently wrong, but if it's amazon getting scammed i feel a lot less bad about it-

[azure pond]

Real

[balmy lake]

Or the Ebay:

GPU for sale!

Description: this is a picture of the GPU I bought.

[thin bolt]

https://computers.woot.com/offers/skytech-gaming-prism-ii-gaming-pc-desktop

@azure pond ?

[cedar patio]

garbage deal

i litteraly have that mobo and my build was sub 600

will explode under a 12900k

[thin bolt]

F

[cedar patio]

jk

it would only explode under a 14900ks

which is saying alot

[azure pond]

nah

[azure pond]

@civic sun you were looking for ssd deals right

[civic sun]

I already got it covered but thanks for asking

[balmy lake]

Bought. Thanks!

[worthy junco]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/156365312333?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=92chrSivS8C&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=jdrnex0srw6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

This is a good offer rt?

[jolly inlet]

That's certainly a PC.
Average deal I guess, assuming it's not the 3050 model that should have been called 3030.

[thin bolt]

Never get a 3050 anything.

Just save money and get something better.

[cedar patio]

fr

[thin bolt]

That should be pinned somewhere

“Don’t get a 3050, there’s literally anything better”

[cedar patio]

like what hmm

hmm??

like a

6600

??

[thin bolt]

A 6Gb 2060 out performs it

A 5600xt should outperform it on paper I believe

[cedar patio]

i outperform it

[thin bolt]

Me running on a treadmill outperforms a 3050

[tawdry dragon]

Need some help finding a laptop if anyone is willing,

Under 800, the cheaper the better
Mostly web apps, so doesn't have to be powerful
Battery efficient
Good webcam
Will last 5-10 years
At least 1tb of storage
16gb of ram is fine, 32gb is preferred
Screen doesn't have to be amazing, just good enough
Keyboard has to be good
Has HDMI port
Has DVD drive (optional)

[jolly inlet]

5-10 years on a low budget is a bit of an ask

[tawdry dragon]

Honestly the cheaper ones are easier to repair, so they might last longer

MacBook Air m1 fits the bill almost perfectly, but not sure it would work

[fair moon]

Best Buy has an M2 Air for $800

If you want 10 years for $800 that's probably your best option

Only 256gb but if webapps are primary use I don't see a need for 1tb

[tawdry dragon]

1tb kinda is necessary for documents and files and such, but I'd say something that can be repaired instead of something that will last 10 years is better

[balmy lake]

Wish i’d read this in March….

[plain sphinx]

so your saying i should get rid of my 3050 XD

[balmy lake]

Not that I’ve needed it. Fans haven’t even kicked on more than a couple of times.

[thin bolt]

Yes

100%

Go get literally anything else

[thin bolt]

F

[tawdry dragon]

"unless there's a good deal on a laptop"

[cedar patio]

8gb?

ram

nvm it has 16

wow

apple

good job

[balmy lake]

I plan on upgrading. Just needed something better than the igpu and more ports than the MB to get me by and Best Buy had it on sale for ~$180 or something

[fair moon]

Some do have 8gb but thats less of a problem on macos than windows

[cedar patio]

they said 16 gb or 32

not 8

but it has 16 so its fine

[plain sphinx]

what do you suggest with a b550m pro vdh and amd ryzen 5 5600g?

[cedar patio]

6600

[thin bolt]

Could probably fit a good 6700xt in there without many issues, yeah? Given they have a good enough PSU?

[cedar patio]

yea

[thin bolt]

@plain sphinx what’s your PSU?

[plain sphinx]

Segotep 600W Power Supply,

they changed the link it was a 600

[cedar patio]

segotep is automatic red flag for me

nvm

its apevia but better

still sucks

[plain sphinx]

it was a cheap build 3 years ago, and has worked well for me so far

[azure pond]

I'm unsure if this is worth posting
https://www.ebay.com/itm/156365542689

[thin bolt]

@plain sphinx personally, I’d just take the opportunity and upgrade to a 750w Corsair or something higher quality

[thin bolt]

Xeon processor and Quadra gpu
Interesting combo in 2024

[cedar patio]

thats pretty good

ngl

the rtx 4000 is big dollar sign dollar sign

[azure pond]

Only issue is I can't find how much vram it has

[cedar patio]

there

took 30 seconds

8gb

rtx 4000 is like

2060-2070

[azure pond]

There's multiple versions tho

[cedar patio]

oh

[azure pond]

And I can't find which version the pre built has

[cedar patio]

its probably the 8gb

wdym different versions tho

[azure pond]

Higher vram

[cedar patio]

like the a and ada?

[azure pond]

Nah

One sec

[cedar patio]

bc i cant find any versions with just higher vram

[azure pond]

Oh wait

[cedar patio]

also music makes boring tasks so much less miserable

[azure pond]

So I was looking at ebay sold listings, I guess I didn't look at the listing titles well enough o

[cedar patio]

you definately didnt

20gb is the sff 4000 right

no its both

[azure pond]

I don't know nvidias workstation lineup at all

[cedar patio]

i do

bc i have a quadro 600

just

quadro 600

my beloved

[azure pond]

1:1 trade for my gt 1030

[cedar patio]

no

[azure pond]

It runs warzone at 2 frames per Minute

Good experience

[cedar patio]

its like a 710

bc kepler

its just meant to be a display adaptor for my seriously girthy xeon

[azure pond]

I did actually try warzone on my old 3470 1030 build

[cedar patio]

which sucks

[azure pond]

It didn't go very well

[cedar patio]

i love how the highest end 10 year old cpu cant beat a low end cpu 3 years ago

or not the highest end

close to the highest end

also nvm the 12100f is 2

[stoic crest]

10 years is a long time for tech tbh

[keen marsh]

Just use AMD frame generation

[torpid night]

For a whopping 4 frames per minute

[tawdry dragon]

Best ssd brand

[cursive sage]

just leaving this here

[stoic crest]

i looked at some ebay

and im disgusted by the amount of flippers who are successfully selling the victus 15 from walmart

699 for what is still a 599 laptop

[tiny heron]

Bring back tiktok deals

[torpid night]

There haven't been any good ones lol

There's a 24" 1080p 165Hz for $99.99 though

[opal flume]

I mean, they ain't making much profit. Ebay takes like 13%

[balmy lake]

Last time i sold something on ebay, it ended up costing me more than i sold it for.

Granted, it was only a $5 item. But ended up costing me almost $8 by the end of it all.

[cursive sage]

so it was essentially a money pit

https://tenor.com/view/fall-damage-guy-jumping-off-cliff-meme-fall-jump-gif-10998107752099134325

[fleet marlin]

Me wondering if I'll even try to give away the spare lga1700 Thermalright socket I have if possible buyer at least pitches in for part of shipping, lol. (Not here)

[lilac prawn]

EBay sellers be like:

[hoary nebula]

Why is the group buy price higher than the regular discount?

[tawdry dragon]

30" 1080p 💀

[jolly inlet]

It's ultrawide, but it's the 100Hz that kills me

No need for curved at that size too

[daring depot]

How is this monitor do yall think?
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-g2524h-24-5-full-hd-1920x1080-monitor-gaming-280hz-oc-fast-ips-0-5ms-amd-freesync-premium-nvidia-g-sync-ascent-gray/6567509.p?acampID=0&affgroup="Deals"&cmp=RMX&irgwc=1&loc=PCPartPicker&mpid=79301&ref=198&refdomain=pcpartpicker.com&skuId=6567509

[cedar patio]

fine

but i would get an 1440p 180hz instead

[daring depot]

im playing Val

I prefer the hz for once

[cedar patio]

bc 280hz is useless unless you are a pro

[daring depot]

plus I already have a 1440p monitor

[cedar patio]

the difference between 180 and 280 isnt that much tbh

[cinder kiln]

What's the pc spec

[daring depot]

i5 9600kf, 1660 super

[cinder kiln]

What's the displayed fps in game

[daring depot]

uh 300 i think

[cinder kiln]

Is that with a cap

[daring depot]

yeah

[azure pond]

that sounds reasonable

[cinder kiln]

Is it constant or peak 300

[daring depot]

oh constant is like 200

[cinder kiln]

Mmmm

[azure pond]

my friend gets 75 fps max settings on a 3400g 1650

[cinder kiln]

What's your current monitor fps

[azure pond]

for competitive val that monitors a fine choice

[daring depot]

my current is limited to 144

I see some stuttering

[cinder kiln]

Suggestion

[daring depot]

mh?

[cinder kiln]

I used to play pro so hear me out

Set an fps cap to 145

Dip below your constant, so if you have high load scenarios, you won't stutter as much

You could also do 165, 180 is fine

Just stay below your norm

[daring depot]

ah ok

[cinder kiln]

So the gpu can ramp up to when you need a high load

[daring depot]

think 180 or 165 is ok?

[cinder kiln]

Ye

Just try that first

I think the monitor is good but only if you can easily hold 280 constant

Otherwise it won't feel all that much smoother

[daring depot]

oh shoot wait im playing on my laptop

3070 mb

[cinder kiln]

Oh 3070

But fps on there is the same right

Or is it higher

[daring depot]

idk

[cinder kiln]

Hm

[azure pond]

3070 mobile would do 240+ on val

[cinder kiln]

Well point still stands

[azure pond]

3060 ti at a 65% pl for me gets 240 fps constant with a limit

[cinder kiln]

If you can do a tailored 280 constant with a bit of gpu headroom left

Then go for it

[daring depot]

I think its worht a shot at least

[cinder kiln]

Hell 240 works too if you run the monitor at 240

[daring depot]

but imma keep looking

165 benq monitors are 150rn anyway

[azure pond]

do you have any plans to upgrade your pc?

[daring depot]

yeah

Im thinking about getting a 7700xt later on

[cinder kiln]

But my point being going for high fps monitors don't really improve things if you can't*maintain that fps very easily

[azure pond]

and anything against refurb/open box options?

[daring depot]

no I uinderstand that

[cinder kiln]

Oop

Lol

[daring depot]

im just thinking I wanna see how the higher refresh rate looks

I dont wanna keep a 1660 super forever

[cinder kiln]

Well it's a triple edged sword

Val is cpu bound

[daring depot]

oh yeah im doing the whole pc lol

[cinder kiln]

If you can't sustain that fps then the gain won't look different

[azure pond]

Ok hear me out

[daring depot]

dunno what cpu I want yet. Not in a rush to upgrade, my laptop isnt dead yet

[azure pond]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/276157220258?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=IZv0H-iASTG&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[daring depot]

NO

[azure pond]

Mini led

[daring depot]

NO

4k!?

[cinder kiln]

Lol

[daring depot]

MY PC GONNA EXPLODE

[cinder kiln]

Cool monitor, way off the spec tho

I would try an fps cap first lad

My god my brain

[azure pond]

For val it really wouldn't be that bad, a 1660 super would do 100+, and with the plan to upgrade mini led would be good for competitive play (if I'm way off base ignore me)

[cinder kiln]

If he wanted to go baller I'd do a KTC oled personally

[daring depot]

the thing about valorant is just the pixel density

too many and you really cant see the crosshair clearly

and targets look smaller

[cinder kiln]

1440p 240hz, on a 3070 that should be doable

Might take a cpu upgrade

[azure pond]

when i went from 1080p to 1440p in valorant, as well as a quality/vibrance upgrade the biggest thing was the clarity in resolution

[daring depot]

im using a 1440p monitor, tried a 1080p monitor and i had a significant difference while playing

[cinder kiln]

I'm talking about oled tho

Oled is like 3 gpu upgrades worth of responsiveness

[azure pond]

although its $500+

[daring depot]

idk if oled is worth it yet

yeah that price tag dont seem viable

[azure pond]

im waiting for black friday to buy one

[cinder kiln]

Imagine that 280hz you linked

Now double it

That's how fast oled is

At the same speed

[daring depot]

but like

[cinder kiln]

Ips 560hz = oled 240hz

[daring depot]

i could buy a gpu with that money

[cinder kiln]

Sure

[azure pond]

im going oled w 3060 ti

[cinder kiln]

I'm just saying that's the baller choice

Oled is endgame for fps

[daring depot]

I get what yall are saying tho

[azure pond]

not sure if oled is worth it yet on a 1660 super, but w a gpu upgrade as well thats a good choice

[cinder kiln]

Oled for fps >>>> mini led

Response is unmatched

[azure pond]

god my brain is scrambled

[daring depot]

ill grab one later man

im not spending that much money when i could literally fix my brakes with the money

[cinder kiln]

Not telling you to buy one lol

Start with an fps cap

Fix your stutters

High load situations

That's when you want all the fps

That's also when you get the most stutters

i.e, gunshots, grenades

Allat

Fix your lows and the results will be better than aiming for a higher peak

Smoothness in fights >>>> smoothness everywhere else

These things come as the opposite to a new monitor

I'd be looking at cpu and gpu load, seeing if I could improve with a better cpu

Or a ram tune

Making sure I get the right utility out of it

If you can then see the game is a pretty consistent, 240fps, 280 fps, then I'd say go for the dell you linked

Cos that extra fps won't matter whatsoever if it doesn't show up when you're in a battle

I learnt all this ages ago, wish I had it hammered into me a decade ago before I went for pro

Lessons of the wise ig ☠️

[cedar patio]

18 blocked messages

what happened here

[cinder kiln]

Nilas how r u

[torpid night]

Oh hello Nilas

[cedar patio]

🫃

[cinder kiln]

What's Nini trying to say?

[torpid night]

👶🏿

[cinder kiln]

Noki r u the father

[cedar patio]

[azure pond]

nokia

[jolly inlet]

#general-chat

[cedar patio]

ok ;(

[worthy junco]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/186660569774?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=FUvSFsMyTGi&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=jdrnex0srw6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

What about this

[stoic crest]

nope

i7 3770

2012 cpu with a modern gpu

3060 8gb too, blargh

[torpid night]

What a goofy PC lol

eBay builds be like:

• CPU: i7
• GPU: 3060
• RAM: 32 GB
  When actually the i7 is only a 3770

Not even a K-series i7

[thin bolt]

Xeon 12 core
4060
32ddr3

[torpid night]

bruh 💀

[thin bolt]

That’s my kinda build BABY

[proper wagon]

That laptop is such a good deal

[stoic crest]

it is

tho for a bit more

$599 gets you 8645hs+4050

but ofc 8gb ram

still food for thought

that laptop is still on at walmart

[jolly inlet]

Easy enough to toss in another 16GB stick for $41

Mixing memory on laptops isn't as bad as on a desktop since it's usually running at or near jedec anyway

It's a lot cheaper than what they'd charge you for memory at any rate

[stoic crest]

mhm

[torpid night]

Also, who's overclocking memory on a laptop too lol

[cinder kiln]

Alec

[cedar patio]

i payed 60 for my a750gl i got scammed ;c

jk i payed 70 and got a 10$ rebate

hopefully i do

[fleet marlin]

Yea definitely a pretty solid price tbh. Almost surprised it's not some sort of sale. A lot of good 850's are 100+, excl refurbs and such

[pallid geyser]

Nice to see psus coming to a reasonable price again

Took long enough

[cedar patio]

nvm i got a better deal

since 12vhp is ew

[tawdry dragon]

the fact that you can get a pc like this for close to $300 prebuilt is just absurd to me https://www.ebay.com/itm/276568547953

[jolly inlet]

Considering the 1660 is below the requirements of several recent games it's not that crazy

[cedar patio]

look at that bend

[pallid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-cringe-face-wtf-eww-gif-10263738266103445636

[tawdry dragon]

of course it's not the best pc, but I don't think you could do much better by building it yourself.

back in my day that cpu cost $300 by itself

[balmy lake]

Got my SSD in today. Kinda disappointed how it arrived. Just one of those bubble wrapped envelopes and the plastic shell. I wasn’t expecting a retail box, not even in a box at all is fine. But maybe a flat of cardboard or something to give it rigidity. On top of the fact Fed Ex just threw it in the middle of the driveway. Luckily i’d seen the delivery notification so i knew not to run over it. Literally 3ft to the right, there’s a chair for them to put packages on. Anyway. About to install and check it out. Thanks again @azure pond for posting the deal.

[azure pond]

That's annoying, ngl I don't remember the deal but np and glad you snagged it

[cedar patio]

@cinder kiln its actually 130 and i found that >:(

nvm 24£ delivery

[grand orbit]

No it's 160, if you're looking at it from outside the US or alike it's removing the tax for you

[cedar patio]

ok

but im looking at it from the us

[grand orbit]

Sorry meant in the us started typing outside the UK but then changed it

Because think it's just US they do it for

Because most countries include tax

[cedar patio]

ok

[jolly inlet]

I usually use a VPN to get more accurate pricing and shipping costs

[lilac prawn]

genius

[high radish]

isn't m482 better than that 990 evo ?

[cursive sage]

Don’t know, but hey at least the 2TB 990 Evo in the deal is cheaper than the m482 with same storage

[balmy lake]

No it isnt…

[cinder kiln]

Wow that's a nice one there

[cursive sage]

Okay never mind that’s a pretty good deal

Must’ve been really hidden when I looked it up

[azure pond]

No

[balmy lake]

It is. For some reason, it’s not even listed on the main website. And you have to dig a bit on the store to find it. Makes me especially thankful that Truebaca found it and posted to begin with.

[cursive sage]

Odd

You probably felt like Indy for a second after finding that deal

[balmy lake]

Cracked that whip on my CC, for sure! Haha

[cursive sage]

instead of cracking your whip you cracked the keys on your keyboard

hit them really fast

[balmy lake]

Actually used my phone. Must be why there’s a crack in my glass screen protector XD

[cursive sage]

fair enough

[cursive sage]

It’s a shame that mobo and ram bundle can only be used in store

No micro centers near me

[marsh sphinx]

How do I pick a good ISP? I want to do gaming on a good internet provider since our current one isn’t holding up for us

[jolly inlet]

Generally you don't have many options

[marsh sphinx]

aaah darn

[jolly inlet]

It's often a monopoly

I can say don't use satellite or mobile network ISPs, you get latency spikes that can boot you from games

[marsh sphinx]

yeah we’re using optum fiber and it’s garbage, my mother was considering going back to AT&T but idk how good that is either

[marsh sphinx]

didn’t plan on that

[jolly inlet]

AT&T is a very broad category, they have so many different services. They still do dial up.

[marsh sphinx]

can it be good at least?

like if i choose the right stuff

[jolly inlet]

Yes, their cable and fiber services are good enough generally speaking

[marsh sphinx]

i’ll let my ma’ know then

[thin bolt]

Starlink is usually what I recc people if they don’t do serious fps gaming

But it’s a high upfront cost

[marsh sphinx]

yeah cost is gonna be an issue for my family

[marsh sphinx]

and i plan on vr so i do

off topic; is a ryzen 5 7600X and a RTX 3080 10GB a good cpu/gpu combo?

[jolly inlet]

yes

[marsh sphinx]

just been looking at builds and found something that caught me off guard, it’s beautiful lol

it’s only worth like $900 USD now

gonna stick a huge 200 dollar AIO in it lol

[fleet marlin]

That cpu definitely won't really hold back that gpu. Perfectly fine pairing

[marsh sphinx]

well that’s what i’ll be saving up for

..what’s a “lüfter controller”?

found it in the setup

[jolly inlet]

Translates to "fan"

[marsh sphinx]

right

oh that’s why, the guy lives in germany

[fleet marlin]

Gesundheit

[marsh sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/7WF8TW

Any other good mobo replacements for this PC? Part list says it doesn't have an extra argb header for the AIO

[brittle lagoon]

Do you already have all of the parts?

[marsh sphinx]

no but its something i wanna look forward to

the GPU and CPU will most likely change

[jolly inlet]

You can split the header or get a controller

[marsh sphinx]

probably just gonna get a controller then

i dont know how hard those are to set up

[brittle lagoon]

I don't think that mobo has any argb headers at all

[jolly inlet]

They're dead simple. Plug the controller into the header, plug in SATA power, and plug all the argb into it.

[marsh sphinx]

oh awesome

[brittle lagoon]

Need sata+usb hubs when the board doesn't have the header

[jolly inlet]

Bottom left, UART1

[brittle lagoon]

Dunno why it's not listed on specs

[jolly inlet]

Oh wait, no that's not rgb

Yeah there's no rgb or argb

[marsh sphinx]

now that you bring this up actually, how much should i save for a gpu for something high end in a white color?

[jolly inlet]

idk why they'd use the same style header

[jolly inlet]

What resolution and detail are you targeting?

[marsh sphinx]

well i plan to play vrchat/half life alyx smoothly which i know it takes a lot

[jolly inlet]

What headset

[marsh sphinx]

oculus quest 2

idk if i wanna upgrade or not

[jolly inlet]

Ok that's basically 4k, 1832x1920 per eye

A 4080 super would be ideal I think, about $1000

[marsh sphinx]

damn i meant smooth but not that smooth

[jolly inlet]

You could do it with a 4070 if you upscale ig

[marsh sphinx]

does it really take that much for it to run 60 fps?

[jolly inlet]

You need lots of memory, that's the problem

If it runs low on memory then it slows to a crawl

[marsh sphinx]

oh yeah, forgot about that

ill see what i can find

if it seriously ends up being that much i might just cut that in half so i can just play high end games

[jolly inlet]

VR is an expensive hobby lol

[marsh sphinx]

i usually just play vrchat to hang out with friends

not in any publics

half life alyx does seem to be an expensive game

euh yah ill probably just not play half life alyx

thatll have to be like a dream gpu

[jolly inlet]

If you really needed to you could get a 4060 ti 16GB, but no white models when you get down that low in the stack

[marsh sphinx]

yeah ill need something with white

i mean not "need"

but very preferred

[cedar patio]

6800?

[jolly inlet]

AMD doesn't really play nice with VR

[cedar patio]

yea

but nvidea SUCKS

at vram

[pure ingot]

Why do you say nvidia sucks?

[cedar patio]

at vram

nvidea just gimme my 48 gigabytes

i need 96gb

gimme

[jolly inlet]

8GB on the 4060 ti is proven to hold it back, thanks to nvidia releasing the otherwise identical 16GB model

Games are running out of VRAM at 1080p now

[pure ingot]

I mean that's fair. Nvidia has done some weird stuff, but 4070 or 4080 still real good.

[cedar patio]

i say the memory bandwidth is a bigger problem than the vram amount for the 4060ti

[marsh sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dg9wrH/gigabyte-eagle-oc-ice-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-8-gb-video-card-gv-n406teagleoc-ice-8gd

[jolly inlet]

8GB

[marsh sphinx]

yeah its 8gb

[pure ingot]

I wasn't even aware that the 4060 had an 8gb model lol

But while nvidia is higher cost to perf, they do still edge out power to power usually as far as im aware.

I wouldn't buy an 8gb card in this day and age tho

[jolly inlet]

Nvidia got a LOT of flak for a "midrange" GPU like a 60 series only having 8GB, so they caved and launched a 16GB model... and asked for an extra $100

[pure ingot]

my 3060 is 12 gb. They had a 6gb model too though right

[jolly inlet]

The 7900 XTX does often beat the 4080 super, unless you count ray tracing

[marsh sphinx]

can you explain what gb does anyway?

im not familiar with how gpus work

just know what they do lol

[pure ingot]

its like dedicated ram for graphics processing

as graphics get better, they eat more ram

[marsh sphinx]

ah so the less ram the more time itll take to process

[pure ingot]

what about in VR as you mentioned earlier?

[jolly inlet]

Everything you see on the screen is made up of textures that need to be stored and accessed quickly and frequently, as well as some physics data. That all gets stored on the GPU VRAM.

[pure ingot]

much better description lol

[jolly inlet]

Higher resolution = larger textures = more VRAM usage

VR = high resolution

[marsh sphinx]

ah

is there any 3000 series in the 16 GB range?

[jolly inlet]

No

[marsh sphinx]

darn

[jolly inlet]

There's 12 and 24 though, that would be enough

[pure ingot]

but that feeds my point is that while the 7900XTX can beat a 4080 super in some cases, it loses in others. They both have their uses. I believe nvidia is also better for streaming and modeling, isn't it? I'm not sure that's still the case but I remember it being so lol

[jolly inlet]

Nvidia only wins in modeling due to program support. There's programs that translate Nvidia speak to AMD speak and those close the gap.

[marsh sphinx]

12 is good

[cedar patio]

3060?

[pure ingot]

Ah well that's good.

[cedar patio]

3080ti?

[jolly inlet]

For streaming, AMD beefed up the stream encoder so it's effectively equal now

[cedar patio]

3080ti is 420 rn

[jolly inlet]

used?

That would be a great pick

It's what I have too

[jolly inlet]

The 3060 has become the minimum required GPU for 1080p medium in some recent games

[cedar patio]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126625628231?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=I8ORr0BxSt6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=ddlrml9ctae&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

yummers

if you have a psu weaker than 750w then this is a bad choice since umm

the problem i forgot the name

transciencr

transcience

[marsh sphinx]

ill probably just save up a specific amount of money then buy whatever gpu is in that high end range and buy it then, right now im only focused on the cpu and gpu price combo

[cedar patio]

3080ti is good tho

its a 3090 with 2x less vram

[pure ingot]

I have a 12gb 3060 and Black Myth: Wukong runs at about 45 FPS with raytracing on medium and graphics on high. Kinda sad I cant run it on cinamatic tho lol

[cedar patio]

so its a 4070 souper

[pure ingot]

But im sure my cpu might be bottlenecking my gpu too 😅

[cedar patio]

what cpy

cpu

[pure ingot]

2600

[cedar patio]

it is

[marsh sphinx]

i need something in white tho

[cedar patio]

why

[pure ingot]

yeh but I'm a broke boi so I'll fix it later lol

[marsh sphinx]

75% aesthetic 25% performance build

[cedar patio]

all the white ones are big $$$

https://www.ebay.com/itm/156389670090?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=hCy-aUksSlO&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=ddlrml9ctae&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[marsh sphinx]

big 500s?

also i dont have the money right now, i need a price range to save up

[jolly inlet]

Funny story, my 3080 ti is noticeably better than the 3090 I had before

[marsh sphinx]

not a specific gpu

[cedar patio]

fool

cool*

[marsh sphinx]

also maybe for a cpu too

im thinking saving up 200 for a cpu and 500 for a gpu or would the market be higher in 3 months?

[azure pond]

Loose shroud sounds like temps would be finicky unless I'm crazy

[cedar patio]

ok but i needed it to prove my 430$ 3080ti point

[jolly inlet]

As long as it's just the shroud itself and not the heatsink it would be fine

[azure pond]

I think I'd take this instead
https://www.ebay.com/itm/387340821706?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=_WbF24AfQmC&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

The less vram will hurt at 1440p tho

[azure pond]

That's good at least

Spending that much money on a gpu tho, id rather grab one without any issues

[cedar patio]

ye

[azure pond]

@stoic crest

[stoic crest]

be gone, BOT

[azure pond]

Tyty

[marsh sphinx]

how does one even know a good CPU/GPU combo?

like how do you figure out what’s good with what

[torpid night]

https://tenor.com/view/be-gone-thot-gif-10386441

[fringe olive]

Good place to start out with is basic details like use case and budget. That will help funnel down choices then you can research the best combos from there.

[marsh sphinx]

well i already know that

but i mean down to like part specs

[thin bolt]

Well, what are the specs you’re looking at atm? @marsh sphinx

[marsh sphinx]

oh none im just looking for knowledge for the future

im gonna save up for my entire pc first before i do anything

1300 USD

idk how to get a combo that wont bottleneck each other nor do i know what worst best with what

[jolly inlet]

That will depend on the kind of games you play. FPS games tend to lean on the CPU more, while open world rely heavily on the GPU.

[marsh sphinx]

mainly VR FPS

..if that counts

oh, also helldivers

[jolly inlet]

What headset

[marsh sphinx]

oculus quest 2

but if theres any recommendations for something to upgrade to from that headset i would love to hear it

[jolly inlet]

You'd want the best CPU you can get, probably a 7800X3D, with at least a 4070

4070 would require DLSS

[marsh sphinx]

gah

DLSS? whats that

[jolly inlet]

Upscaling

[marsh sphinx]

upscaling for resolution or?

also yea 230 isnt bad for a cpu

i can afford that

but i was also thinking of getting a RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB

[jolly inlet]

Upscaling meaning it renders in a lower resolution and outputs to the headset at native res

[marsh sphinx]

ohh

[marsh sphinx]

would this suffice?

its already a pretty big price tag for me

also i thought it would be a bad idea to plan this out before i have all the money?

[cedar patio]

so

what do you do

with your pc

[marsh sphinx]

VR

video editing

aesthetics too

nice lil addition to my room

[cedar patio]

ok

i woudnt get 4060 ti 16gb

it might have the vram but thats the only thing it has

so it sucks

the 3060 is better value

the 3080ti would also be significantly better

and probably the same price

the a770 exists ig

[marsh sphinx]

3080ti is good but idk if itll be a good price when i do buy it

[cedar patio]

when will you buy it