#tech-deals-discussion

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burnt prawn
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good or ass?

azure pond
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Amd cpu naming is lost on me

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7320u is ass

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I know that much

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It's zen 2 architecture which can't be good

fair moon
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Yeah the 7000 laptop chips are practically a scam

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Maybe not all of them but certainly the lower spec ones

high radish
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You can lower it down to 72$ if you buy z790 mobo hmm KEKW

burnt prawn
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wait

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its that bad?

cinder kiln
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If it has a 1 or 2 in the 3rd number it means it's really old ryzen

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It's not real 7000 series

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Some are still good with a 3 in it

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The naming scheme is really dumb, it's "7000" but it's not "Zen 4"

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They can't even follow their own scheme properly, even they themselves get confused about it kekw

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I will say tho, for 400 you won't do a whole lot better than this tbf

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I would consider a used laptop personally

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It's not until about the 700-800 mark that new ones get truly worth it

burnt prawn
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so i bought this for $480

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i thought it was a steal......

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its a 7530... if its a scam lmk

cinder kiln
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It's a bit better, though not 200 better than the other one imo

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I wouldn't call these scams btw, just I wouldn't call them full desktop worthy cpus

burnt prawn
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im only using this for studying while in school

cinder kiln
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For 150 more you can often afford a 4050 laptop

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4050 = 3060m

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I guess I should shift gears a bit here. Calling it a scam is wrong @burnt prawn however I would rarely call those all in one laptops worth it

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It's really hard to justify the hardware performance in something like that

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They're business laptops, great for basic work for years, not for exploring the bounds of what a pc can do though

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You could probably find something like an old zephyrus or gf63 for 500 with a 3060 in it

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The low range gaming laptops hold up really well

dry flume
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pairing a 12400f with a z790 is funny tho

high radish
dry flume
high radish
dry flume
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might flip my b660 and i3 since local market is so inflated

high radish
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Yeah 12th gen CPUs are decent nowadays. Microcenter have better combos usuallybut it's local only so . We have newegg combos to save day

dry flume
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Microcenter doesn't ship internationally, rip

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I don't complain, amazon puts some good deals every once in a while

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bought my 2060 almost two years ago brand new for 140$

burnt prawn
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thanks for the info! i appreciate the heads up and if i regret not returning my laptop...

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o7

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xD

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have a good night!

azure pond
high radish
azure pond
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5700x a520m plus wifi is $265, and comes with a free 1tb sata ssd

high radish
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it's really hard to resell them so I ignored it pepeF

fair moon
tawdry dragon
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this deal still going on at microcenter

tawdry dragon
fair moon
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Used gaming laptops are a play, sometimes it's harder to find good general use lappys used cause people hold onto them for longer

azure pond
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I wouldnt bother with 4k at 27"

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Negatives heavily outweigh the benefits imo

tough veldt
high radish
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27 inch 4k would be weird hmm

tough veldt
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Whats the minimum for 4k ?

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32 ?

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I want one for blender EpicEgg

high radish
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yeah . 32 inch alright for 4k

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I still hanging on with qled panels pepeF

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ultrawide 4k oleds wen

tough veldt
high radish
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g9 oled is still 2k pepeF

azure pond
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At 27", it's hard to tell the difference between 1440p and 4k

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The downside of 4k is that it requires much more out of the gpu to run, as it's rendering a lot more pixels

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This means you either turn settings down, or lose fps

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Or both

tough veldt
tough veldt
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Seeing clearer images

cinder kiln
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Just do 1440p

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If you need a higher fidelity, go 32" 4K

tough veldt
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So 4k minimum 32 ?

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Right ?

cinder kiln
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You can if you can run that

tough veldt
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Nice thanks

azure pond
cinder kiln
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It still doesn't add a whole lot to modelling beyond some finer detail

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Nothing that zooming in can't do

azure pond
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28" is the absolute bare minimum, and even then it's hard to see a difference

tough veldt
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I will invest in that

azure pond
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You'd have to be sitting very close to your monitor

tough veldt
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Better than a 4k tv

cinder kiln
tough veldt
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Lol

azure pond
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4k at 32" has higher pixel density than 1080p at 24"

cinder kiln
azure pond
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1080p 24" was pretty much the standard till a few years ago

cinder kiln
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Like that's how much I'm emphasising how little 4k will help here

cinder kiln
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My desk has two towers and a 42" tv

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It's pretty big lmao

tough veldt
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Wow

cinder kiln
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I sit about 2 feet from the screen

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So looking at it takes up a good 30 degrees-ish of my field of vision

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It's honestly really sharp

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Like 32" I would say is still 1440p territory in it's own right really

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Why am I being pedantic about this? Cos only 2 or 3 gpus can even moderately handle 4k if you do anything gaming lol

tough veldt
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Yeah agree

cinder kiln
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Cos otherwise you'd be buying a 4k60 right?

tough veldt
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But photoshop/blender

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I Can Do it

cinder kiln
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I mean if you're still prepared to do it, alr

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But I'd consider oled imo

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For that sort of money oled will have a bigger impact than 4k

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For editing and modelling

tough veldt
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500$ max budget peepoSadSip

cinder kiln
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Colour accuracy >>>>

cinder kiln
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Very good one too

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I would 100% take that over m32u

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Oled is just OP af for colour work

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Rip the sale seems to be maybe gone

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This is $600 tho

tough veldt
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Yeah

cinder kiln
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Would be worth stretching imo

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Oled is literal endgame for colour work

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For gaming too, for that matter

tough veldt
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So just invest in one single monitor that

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Do everything

cinder kiln
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Ye

tough veldt
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Thanks for your help

cinder kiln
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Use a throwaway secondary

tough veldt
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I will waiting for a good deal

cinder kiln
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Like literally anything with a hdmi for second screen imo

cinder kiln
tough veldt
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Yeap hh

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Also this IS the first year for oled

cinder kiln
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Nah

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Oled came out in like

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2010? Lol

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We are seeing the first monitors of eventual maturity here

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They've come a long way

tough veldt
tough veldt
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For cheap Price Pog

cinder kiln
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Ooo I'd have no idea

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I haven't seen a current day retina

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I have seen retina and it's good but idk about the apple pro ones

high radish
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why 7900x3d getting cheaper thonk

cinder kiln
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"7800X3D is the fastest" is convincing enough for most people lol"

high radish
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7900x3d more capable for people who work and game on single pc hmm

stable knoll
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It looks like a good price with ZIP

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what yall think?

jolly inlet
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After the zip discount that's about what it would cost to build it yourself

stable knoll
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yea after tax it goes for 1115, pretty decent

jolly inlet
stable knoll
jolly inlet
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Bottleneck calculators are useless

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It's fine

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The only issue I see is the memory

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2x8GB is worse than 1x16GB on DDR5

stable knoll
jolly inlet
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The pictures show 2 sticks so who knows what you'll get

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If you do get a single 16GB stick you can toss another one in there to get 32GB total. We can help pick the right one out once you have it, it should be under $50.

stable knoll
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oh gotcha, appreciate it I'm about the check this ZIP, it looks like doesn't charge fees nor interest compared to affirm

trim pier
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jk

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Hold on

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I should run to my microcenter

jolly inlet
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Deepcool more like Deep State amiright
||don't take that as an invitation for a political argument||

trim pier
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I wonder

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does this also mean Thermalright?

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Considering it said 13 other companies

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16*

jolly inlet
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The 16 companies it's referring to are Chinese companies that are recently sanctioned

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One of which is a category that basically says "anyone we missed"

azure pond
jolly inlet
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Because water cooling

azure pond
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That wasn't funny but I spent a solid minute trying to come up with something funnier and couldn't

jolly inlet
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u rite

azure pond
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So you get that

jolly inlet
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@azure pond You really should trim those links

pallid geyser
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Miss the $60 2tb ssds

high radish
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Yeah hmm

fair moon
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Not sure if this is account locked or what but I'm not going to use it

daring depot
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I swear I just saw this thing available on Amazon last night

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why?

high radish
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i wonder why everyone selling 7900x3d for cheap lol

shut lava
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They didn't sell well to begin with and I have a feeling the new AMD non X3D CPUs will have nearly equal gaming performance. So they have to clear out inventory.

balmy lake
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Worth an upgrade from 7600X? Or wait for a 9000 series? Or wait to see if prices fall for 7800X3d later? I’m in no need for it. Purely a ‘want’ situation, lol.

cinder kiln
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Can jump to 9000x3d

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Though frankly 7600x doesn't really struggle with any hardware yet at 1440p

balmy lake
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Yeah, im only really playing 1 game right now and it doesn’t even hardly register on either cpu or gpu, on max settings. But it is a 20+ yr old game originally developed for consoles, lol.

jolly inlet
pallid geyser
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I mean shoot if they’re that bad just give it to me smh

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(/s)

warm coyote
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7900x3d games fine still preferable over vanilla zen4 parts

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Also one time it was almost same price as 7800x3d kekw

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I would take the better multi core performance and just use lasso to direct games on what ccd to use

jolly inlet
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I agree, to a point. The 7800X3D does still beat it in games, and so does the 7950X3D.
Though after the latest chipset driver update most of the stuttering issues I've seen have been fixed.

cinder kiln
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Yeah the new scheduler seems to have made things a good degree better

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Like it wasn't bad before, but you could definitely tell what struggled more easily

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Everything just feels more smooth

high radish
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built that 7900x3d recently and it's amazing pcu for its price . handing both gaming and workload great

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just have to configure bunch of things to get good gaming performance hmm

jolly inlet
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The worst offender I had was Forever Skies where it would hang for a good half second every minute or so, even with process lasso. That's basically gone now, except when it's loading into a new area since it's a "no loading screens" game.

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It was even worse if I alt tabbed out of the game and came back but that's also fixed.

marsh sphinx
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what could 100-115 USD get me for a monitor?

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idk if i already asked this

cinder kiln
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Koorui 24E3 or whatever it's called is basically the only option

azure pond
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G255f too

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G244f e2 at microcenter

daring depot
marsh sphinx
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what day would that be?

balmy lake
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Actually, I believe i heard today is the start of ‘Walmart Plus’ day. Idk what they have. It’s basically walmarts version of prime day.

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Yep! Also seems to be all week. Not just a day or two.

fallen idol
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There is big sale on Radeon GPUs (via amazon) sold by baseball cap-shop, 10,500 reviews 4.6/5 stars. Is this legit?

azure pond
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Mmmm

fallen idol
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$300 (usd) for ‘new’ rx 6800 is kinda crazy

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paid like $380 for mine

cinder kiln
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I saw that shop, tread with caution, I suspect big scam

fallen idol
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Thank you

lilac prawn
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Definitely don't buy from them tho

thin bolt
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@azure pond would that build work for this guy

azure pond
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Ye

thin bolt
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Hey uh

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That cpu is $100

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Not $283

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@azure pond

azure pond
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It includes mobo, psu, and ssd

daring depot
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I wish that cpu were stronger just a bit

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HD2 burns cpus

warm coyote
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helldivers 2?

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even a ryzen 5 1600 gets 60fps in that game iirc

torpid night
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It's more of a graphics game lol

lilac prawn
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Dunno what settings you're running helldivers 2 at but my CPU never reached past 65% utilization

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On all low except for render distance

fair moon
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I wouldn't be surprised if Helldivers is cpu heavy because of how many "ai"/cpu/non-player enemies there are

daring depot
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11800h

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idk what the issue is, it also could be the fact that my laptop has horrible power usage

daring depot
torpid night
daring depot
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also that

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but my laptop also crashes the moment I try and Tab out for anything

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*Game crashes

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damnit maybe it is just my computer

jolly inlet
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That's also a laptop CPU

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The desktop 12400F would be about 15% better at gaming when only looking at CPU data

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I would bet your laptop has a poor power limit for when the CPU and GPU are both in use

daring depot
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very likely

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The battery life is already horrid so i wouldnt doubt the power usage is just as bad

jolly inlet
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You can delete everything after the ? in a link like that, it's just metadata like tracking and promos

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Yep like that

daring depot
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cool. didnt know that

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I wonder if Amazon is the same

jolly inlet
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Amazon you can delete ref=

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Same concept

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So you've got a 45W (max) CPU and a 95W (max) GPU but a 230W charger

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Nice Acer, real nice ||/s||

daring depot
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would you mind explaining in noob terms?

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cause it seems decent

jolly inlet
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You'd think based on raw specs

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But the issue is twofold, that's PEAK power draw, not sustained, it reduces the limit after a short time, and when both the CPU and GPU are in use the limits are much lower. Probably 25W and 65W.

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Which you'd never know by looking at the charger wattage alone because it provides double the power you'd ever really use

daring depot
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wait the issue isnt the actual charger??

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I mean, i would assume the actual frame of the laptop is at fault, being a "thin" computer

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it heats up quite fast actually. There is TURBO mode to increase fan usage

jolly inlet
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That's the issue. It can only hold the peak power for a little bit of time before it has to cut the limit down to prevent overheating. That in turn reduces your clock speeds, which can make it appear like you're maxing out the CPU when in fact it's just a gimped CPU

daring depot
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ic

torpid night
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The game is typically heavy on both (depending on the specs of the PC)

thin bolt
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Is this a deal?

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@cinder kiln

jolly inlet
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I wouldn't trust that seller

stoic crest
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It's a scam attempt I bet

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Amazon LLC lol

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Oh wait

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Quick googling tells me it's amazon

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Just the amazon global branch

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Still something smells off

grave delta
stoic crest
warm dagger
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What do you guys think of this windows 11 pro offer in sweatcoin?

fair moon
warm dagger
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Its 40

jolly inlet
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It's easy to find legit keys for $20, the sketchy ones are $5

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Due to server rules neither shall be linked

fair moon
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Petition to allow linking to oem keys

tough veldt
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Its amazon for me !?!

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Where

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You Can see that ?

warm coyote
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the price changed to where it should be hence shows amazon now

tawdry dragon
# grave delta legit

I just realized that the last 2 words are 公司 which means company, so it's literally just xxxxxxcompany

balmy lake
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Hold out as long as possible. H8 win11. Started with a new company and their machines are all win11. I wanna throw mine out the window.

jolly inlet
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You can make 11 look like 10 but probably can't on an office PC if the IT guys have any brains

lilac prawn
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And imo, with what they're doing to windows I don't know if it's even worth paying for a license at all but that's a separate issue

dry flume
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Been a year since I made my first build and I still have no active windows license

marsh sphinx
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Our wi-fi is gonna come with some booster routers for me and my parents. Would connecting my PC to ethernet on it be better than getting a better WiFi card?

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Also, having a weird issue where sometimes my taskbar goes blank and my mouse starts to kinda look like it’s processing something when I click it. I think it might be a processor issue but what do you guys think

light holly
daring depot
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Is 10gb vram gonna hold up for 5 years?

prime crow
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no

daring depot
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Fek

prime crow
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most studios want over 16 now as standard for new games

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AAA's that is

daring depot
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I'll just splurge next year then and save

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By then, older high end gpus are bound to be cheaper

prime crow
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Ive got 10 and I see games nearly chew all it up at only 2k resolution

daring depot
prime crow
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ouch

daring depot
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I'm lucky my computer still runs

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I really need to downgrade

azure pond
daring depot
warm dagger
jolly inlet
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Yeah to run those LLMs in the background so you can talk to NPCs

grand orbit
azure pond
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@cinder kiln

cinder kiln
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Wuh ping

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I told you about that case months ago bacca lol

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Oh wait

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No maybe I didn't

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Nvm

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I know this case and yes it's great

warm coyote
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seems like a great case in tech deals

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the front seems mesh or not doubtful

fair moon
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Front holds the PSU, But you can intake plenty of air elsewhere

tawdry dragon
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Kinda like smaller ap201

cinder kiln
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Pretty much, but it's invertible and a lot smarter with the space

torpid night
tawdry dragon
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makes me kinda regret getting my pc case, but then again I regret my entire pc

torpid night
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What's your PC specs? (And case lol)

tawdry dragon
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i5 13500, 32gb ddr4, 3070, 5tb in ssds, and ap201

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It's really the cpu/mobo/ram combo that I got that I regret

torpid night
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Definitely could've gotten better specs if you had like 2-3TB less in storage lolll

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The AP201 isn't that bad

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But the specs aren't too bad either tbh

tawdry dragon
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it's not bad, but it's massive for an matx case

torpid night
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It is lol. I think Lian Li collaborate with another SFF case manufacturer to make basically a smaller AP201 (I could be way off on that collab)

tawdry dragon
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next pc I'm getting is either going to be massive or tiny

torpid night
tawdry dragon
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at that point idk why you wouldn't just get an itx case lol

torpid night
tawdry dragon
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I don't upgrade all that often, I just get a pc and use it for a few years

torpid night
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I’m basically going to have to get her a new PC atp just to upgrade her how I'd like

tawdry dragon
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lol

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I'd rather just get a good pc now, and keep it for 5 years

torpid night
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Around every two years for me lol

tawdry dragon
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I really want to upgrade to a 1440p 240hz ultrawide monitor, but my pc can't handle it and I have no reason for it

torpid night
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Wait for this year's (next year's?) GPUs and get a new monitor around the same time of getting a GPU

tawdry dragon
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If i'm going to upgrade at all, I'm going to sell my entire pc and just get a new one

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just buy an ssd and keep the 3 that are in my pc already

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I'd upgrade to the 7900xtx or similar (whatever comes out) and keep that build for a while, that way I can upgrade my monitor without worrying about performance problems

fair moon
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$505 for itx
7600/a620itx/nr200/500w sfx
$365 for matx
7600/a520matx/sama im01/550w atx

strange anvil
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Hey so I've been searching around for a bit, but I'd like to ask for a little help from the techies here for recommendations on laptops (or where to find them). My hope is to find a laptop within the <$600 range that can play modded minecraft and modded terraria comfortably. 16gb, >=1080p, >=60fps, and hoping for a ~3 hour battery life. Finally, the laptop MUST be new. Please just trust me, my luck with pre-owned electronics is atrocious.

tawdry dragon
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do you want to play modded mc and terraria ON battery?

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and what mods specifically on mc

strange anvil
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For modded minecraft we can assume medium sized kitchen sink modpacks, ~200 mod range or thereabouts. As for on battery, the hope is yes, but not all the time

tawdry dragon
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it's not the best thing I've ever seen

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this is one of the newer acer nitros so I'm not too familiar with them

thin bolt
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@stoic crest is the expert

tawdry dragon
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I do have a acer nitro myself, its a slightly older model, but it has the same gpu

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(possibly the 4gb vram model idrk)

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and I can tell you that it will NOT last 3 hours

strange anvil
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I'm dumb, and didn't word it properly. I hope for 3 hours on casual day to day actions (YouTube, Chrome tabs, word, school work), not for gaming applications

thin bolt
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If you’re not gaming, nitros aren’t for you

tawdry dragon
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I don't really pay attention, but when I do school and such online on my laptop, it will last around 2-3 hours ish

tawdry dragon
daring depot
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oh

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he gonna need a beefy laptop

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probably just needs a big battery tbh. Most newer laptops have strong enough systems to mod games

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heck I modded skyrim on my 1660ti Dell G3 perfectly fine. that thing lasted me nearly 8 hours on battery

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(light gaming on roblox tho)

tawdry dragon
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afaik this is a better laptop overall compared to the acer nitro @strange anvil https://www.microcenter.com/product/663873/lenovo-loq-156-gaming-laptop-computer-onyx-grey not an expert though

daring depot
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wait

tawdry dragon
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cpu is worse, but only by about 9%

daring depot
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dont 12th gen intel stuff have bad battery drainage

tawdry dragon
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not sure

strange anvil
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That laptop is $10 less

daring depot
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I was told to avoid 12th gen intel stuff due to that fact

strange anvil
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I'll pay the 10 more for the upgrade from 12450 to 13420

tawdry dragon
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the model of laptop is better

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in terms of everything else

daring depot
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honestly acer stuff isnt too good

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i recomend an ASUS laptop personally

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battery life on those is great

tawdry dragon
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acer nitro and msi gf63 laptops are meant to have the best specs for the lowest money, and that means sacrificing on everything else

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anyways, the only info that I have for laptops is when I was buying my own, therefore I am NOT an expert

strange anvil
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So I may be dumb but I've looked on the specs for both laptops... how is it better in every other aspect? It seems equal in most other aspects?

cinder kiln
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Boeleveled

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Be-

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Boeing

tawdry dragon
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What

cinder kiln
tawdry dragon
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Skill issue

cinder kiln
tawdry dragon
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Noooooo

cinder kiln
tawdry dragon
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Whatever have I done noooo

cinder kiln
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You've spoken out for the last time RAAAAA

tawdry dragon
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I AINT DO NOTHING NOOOO

cinder kiln
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Best value laptop 2023

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(No this is not a joke)

strange anvil
# cinder kiln LOQ is bae

Look, assume I have some (but not a lot) of tech knowledge... how is the loq better than the acer nitro in this example of 2 laptops?

cinder kiln
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Bigger number is not better

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In fact a lot of 13th gen cpus are based on 12th gen arch

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So they're often not even upgrades

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Intel is deceptive

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They are in fact, after a google, the same cpu

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One has a slight clock boost, however, as far as overall fit and finish of both laptops

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iirc the Acer was ok, but the LOQ was one of the best from last year

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Nothing special, just functional and plain good

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Only drawback I remember is the LOQ has a relatively slow display vs others

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But it's in the realm of something unnoticeable to the naked eye

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So it's still perfectly fine

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I would also opt for the loq tbh

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3050 is a bit lackluster

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Like for 550 you could probably find a used 3060 laptop or 2070 laptop

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But LOQ is usually a good buy

strange anvil
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No ifs, ands, or buts. Please don't ask

cinder kiln
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Hey man, I gotta say it

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The jump to those other two would be enormous

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Like 40%+

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Huge performance leap

strange anvil
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Look, I've been currently debating the loq vs the nitro and will continue to until maybe the end of the week when I'll bite the bullet

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Who knows, maybe a better deal will show itself

pulsar fable
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So, the LOQ is recvomended by one guy because it was a good laptop, but someone else says to avoid it because 12th gen drains battery

strange anvil
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'Appears to be the long and short of it, yeah

trim pier
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For a pc that looks like an old camcorder

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idk how to feel about that one

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120-130 fps on CSGO.. First that's CSGO, then is it on low or what 😭

stoic crest
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780m igp

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no, 680m

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it's competent

proper wagon
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680m was definitely good, it's what the 6800u gaming handhelds all had, which could play cyberpunk albeit at console fps

warm coyote
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lol the top does give camcorder vibes kekw

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if it has a thunderbolt port could hook a discrete gpu to it

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320$+300$ 4060=620$

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my bad forgot to count in the enclosure price

proper wagon
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Too bad it doesn't have oculink - would be a serious sleeper deal

shut lava
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That $648 XFX Speedster MERC310 AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX is a little sus. It ships from an unknown seller with only 2 ratings and one of them was something to keep cupholders clean.

jolly inlet
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@dull flame I had to delete that, too many signs of scam. Amazon is full of them.

dull flame
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It's okay. I had no clue.

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Sorry, didn't mean to post a possible scam.

high radish
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Yeah I almost fell to that scam once too lol

normal spear
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We've all had our bad calls

pulsar fable
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Way too "mileage may vary" to put in #tech-deals , but if you live near a micro center it may be there

jolly inlet
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Only certain stores have open box/refurb CPUs

warm coyote
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239 for a 5800x3d does not seem like that great of a value when the 7600 is cheaper

jolly inlet
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It's an option for someone that already has AM4, since that would be a cheaper upgrade than buying a whole new platform

warm coyote
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ig but although a bit late for in platforms upgrades for am4 because b650 and ddr5 is cheap enough imo

jolly inlet
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That's still a good $200 more, and someone that's still chugging along with a 2700X probably doesn't have all that much money

warm coyote
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i think windows snappiness is also much better with the 7600

warm coyote
# warm coyote ig but although a bit late for in platforms upgrades for am4 because b650 and dd...
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if someone has some weird 6core allergy

high radish
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Newegg have decent 12th gen combos again pepeBeanEgg

jolly inlet
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The newegg combos are weird, you have to build it yourself usually. It's hard to link properly.

high radish
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Yeah that sux

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Still I love newegg combos

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Good alternative to MC combos hmm

pulsar fable
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More motherboard combos 👀

high radish
daring depot
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GOOD GOD

daring depot
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how long is the 12700 gonna last

jolly inlet
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The answer to that is always and without exception "it depends"

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If you always have to have the latest thing, the most powerful GPU, the highest settings, then it won't last you as long as someone that's ok turning it down from ultra to high occasionally.

daring depot
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yeah good point

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I dont really have a way to compare it tho. As long as I can boot a crap ton of programs reliably im ok

jolly inlet
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It can definitely do that

daring depot
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how do you check what GPU's are supported by any motherboard again?

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dumb question actually ill just look it up

jolly inlet
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Every GPU that uses the standard PCIe interface will work on any motherboard with the appropriately sized PCIe slot

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You can put a 4090 into a motherboard from 2010

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It would be heavily limited by the bandwidth, but it would function

swift forge
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anyone have any newegg promo codes they can give?

jolly inlet
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Those are typically either item or account exclusive

warm coyote
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If you need 60fps or more even in unoptimized games like dragons dogma 2 imo
An upgrade is needed immediately kekw

thin bolt
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Why do I not have $550

prisma mortar
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quite a distance

jolly inlet
lilac prawn
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I'm still running well over 60fps

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Maybe not 7 but you get the idea, well over 2 years

lilac prawn
warm coyote
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also sometimes depends on how excited someone is for a game

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for me whatever star wars outlaws demands later this year star wars outlaws gets kekw

azure pond
lilac prawn
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???

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Confusion

azure pond
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Rafsan

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Not fal

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The message he replied to

lilac prawn
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Oh no I figured haha

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Charitably speaking that made the most sense

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I'm confused as to how the game could ask anything above recommend specs

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Which I can safely assume is way below whatever he has

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Almost no game would ask for a 4090 and a 12900kf

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Or whatever

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Apparently except starfield

warm coyote
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slowfield

lilac prawn
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Sadfield

warm coyote
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hopefully by the dlc launch they speed up the game performance further

lilac prawn
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How is a dlc going to do that?

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Better off relying on the mods to do that anyway haha

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That's how they intend the game to be fixed after their own patches

warm coyote
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elden ring with the new dlc patch also saw performance improvements soo you never know

lilac prawn
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I doubt they'd do it

warm coyote
lilac prawn
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Elden ring is made by fromsoft

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Starfield is made by todd howard

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Mr It Just Works ™️

swift forge
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what are the chances of this getting restocked soon? I was going to buy this but it went out of stock

thin bolt
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Probably within a few days or weeks

stoic crest
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nand price is dropping again

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so it might come back cheaper even

balmy lake
balmy lake
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The collector side of me wants it.

vestal needle
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Both on sale which should i get?

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I don’t know how hp is but i figured msi is better

brittle lagoon
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By only those specs the HP one is better, but it is refurb

vestal needle
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Since its refurb and from microcenter is that better than refurbished else where? Or do you think it would be better to spend more for new but less specs

azure pond
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I'd def take the victus personally

brittle lagoon
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Dunno if it's microcenter refurb or HP refurb, just keep in mind the usual isrefurb usually having less warranty, usually some cosmetic damage, sometimes missing accessories

vestal needle
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Hmm im so torn on which one to get lol.. what would you do

azure pond
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Victus is a good model, 4060 in that cheap of a laptop is a great deal too

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Plus 32gb ram to boot

vestal needle
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I guess i could take a chance with refurb i appreciate it

stoic crest
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victus is better

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in all ways

warm axle
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I see a gaming PC with i7 8700k, 32GB RAM, and 1080ti for 250

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Should I get it? I think it’s a good deal. What do you guys think?

daring depot
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not that powerful

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but I have basically the same thing and it runs even RE4 on medium ok

warm axle
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Lol he felt like he was selling it for too cheap and changed his mind

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He said he willing to take 200 but he then changed his mind

stoic crest
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hey

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that's not bad

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250 for all that is pretty good in its own right

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normally

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people ask 500 outta these

thin bolt
warm axle
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I shouldn’t have bought that earlier cause another guy was selling the same thing for just 50. I’ll just buy the other as well one because these cases are kind of rare on the used market at such a price

shut lava
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This isn't the spam-scam-discussion channel

frosty gate
balmy lake
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Is there a spam/scam discussion channel? Lol

thin bolt
trim pier
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So from what I found with the deal

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Reddit actually made this helpful w r/buildapc

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Basically you can take the 7800x3d with ANY ram and ANY motherboard, and it comes out to the price.

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That price would be the discounted CPU + the prices of the mobo and ram.

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so even if you added a 120$ motherboard, 98$ ram kit, and the cpu, comes out cheaper than microcenters bundle.

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downside is, you pay for your parts that you get.

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It might be possible to buy the parts, then price match the motherboard as microcenters prices are MSRP OR you can buy the parts, return it a day later and buy it cheaper online.

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Even used if you want, ngl this may be the cheapest way to get a high end pc aside from brand new gpu and trash ssd prices

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1300-1350 give or take after tax + white cable mods & possible part changes?

fair moon
trim pier
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And you keep the discounted CPU

fair moon
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Just make sure to read the fine print if that's your plan

azure pond
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i wouldnt do gf1 2024

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much worse than old gf1

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nice list otherwise

jolly inlet
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Most places only price match what you can buy online

thin bolt
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Would this be a decent grab

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$315 would be the price

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$415 after taxes and stuf

grand orbit
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seems kinda mid tbh

thin bolt
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Just wondered.

grand orbit
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cant remember where but i remember a brand new 4060 11400f build or something in some shop for like 500 or somehting

thin bolt
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Ah yeah, forgot about that

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The legion one

tiny heron
thin bolt
torpid night
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Refurbished. No thank you

zenith lantern
pulsar fable
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Got a 6tb in a similar manner. 50k hours 🫠

stoic crest
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that's like

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a 6 year old drive at least

pulsar fable
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So yeah, I guess that checks out

stoic crest
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2014

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That's 9 years old by the time you got it

high radish
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I respect whoever dare to buy refurbished HDDs lol

azure pond
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My 2018 hgst 4tb is going strong

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No idea how many hours or cycles

zenith lantern
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If it craps out the eBay seller will honor their 5 year warranty

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For this seller anyways

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I just put anime on the drive and use it to back up other junk

hidden viper
pure ingot
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I don't believe that is an option. I think you'd have to buy one of the prebuilts.

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or build it yourself.

hidden viper
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Oh ok

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🥲

pure ingot
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They do have a PC builder section on the website that will help make sure PC parts are compatible but I believe PcPartPicker is more popular here for putting together a list. Building a PC isn't that bad and you can learn how on youtube, or have an experienced friend help you. You could also find local PC shops and see if they could do that for you, but some of them charge exorbitant fees, so keep that in mind. Of course, we here on this discord are also here to help if you need it with any part of the process. Many users here will chime in and help with issues/questions you have while designing or building a PC.

hidden viper
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So I’m stuck doing it my self I just nervous about messing up something

brittle lagoon
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Should just try to build it yourself at that point

hidden viper
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Mostly on the cpu

brittle lagoon
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Microcenter offers building for around $100 if I recall if you really need it

thin bolt
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CPUs are not that easy to mess up

brittle lagoon
thin bolt
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Just take it slow and careful

pure ingot
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Learning to build one is great imo because once you learn to build it, upgrading it later on is easy. It's basically like adult legos. The only part you have to need to be really careful with is the CPU and all you do is lign up the triangles or dots and you shuoldn't have to force it in at all to put it in the slot. You do have to use some minor force to close the clasp over it though.

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after that the rest is pretty easy as long as you pay attention to the labels.

brittle lagoon
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Just never push on the CPU and you won't damage it

pure ingot
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most parts can only go into certain places and in a certain way

brittle lagoon
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Just drop it in place

thin bolt
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Directions are pretty straight forward.

Everything has a certain place.

brittle lagoon
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The only thing that takes a good bit of force is the 24pin power, don't use force on anything else

pure ingot
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minor force on those cpu clasps. Everyone always thinks they're going to break em lol

hidden viper
pure ingot
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24pin is the large PSU wire that feeds power to the mobo

brittle lagoon
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Oh yea the latch can take a bit of force too

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But as long as the CPU was oriented correctly it won't do any damage

hidden viper
pure ingot
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I promise it seems scary the first time, but afterwards it's pretty easy. Just dont drop things and don't force things together lol

thin bolt
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The only thing that took a little force for my fiancĂŠs pc was the nvme slotting

But it was a very janky drive

pure ingot
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and read the mobo manual while doing it, and I usually recommend people follow a good youtube guide and ask questions here.

brittle lagoon
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Everything wants to work together, if it ain't going in, it's probably not meant to go there

hidden viper
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And I hope my case is big enough for the 4070 super

pure ingot
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there's no way. They are completely different sizes and oriented in the complete wrong way

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what case?

hidden viper
hidden viper
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How every spell it

pure ingot
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I mean I have seen people force in the wrong power wires to the wrong ports and fried components, even though they are keyed.

hidden viper
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Do you think that’s a big enough case ?

pure ingot
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what gpu did/are you buy/ing?

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you have 392mm of gpu space.

hidden viper
hidden viper
pure ingot
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yeah but what brand? they can be different sizes, although the 3 fan one I'm looking at is 261mm so I think you will have plenty of room

thin bolt
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@hidden viper make sure you’re getting the best deals on everything. Don’t buy everything from one spot because of ease.

pure ingot
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largest I can find is 307.

thin bolt
hidden viper
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This is my list

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And I’m getting the ram off Amazon

thin bolt
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This is exceptions

hidden viper
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What ya think

hidden viper
brittle lagoon
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Would recommend using pcpp when possible

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Can grab a 2tb drive that has similar practical performance for a pretty similar price

pure ingot
pure ingot
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pc part picker

hidden viper
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Ohh

pure ingot
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it's a website to lay out the PC parts you wanna buy and make sure they're compatible and you can compare prices and parts and stuff

hidden viper
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I’m slow lol

hidden viper
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In my list

brittle lagoon
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It's useful for getting cheaper prices from other storefronts

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List is compatible so far

pure ingot
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yeah they are

hidden viper
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What ram yall recommend?

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Is that good ?

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Or is there better for cheaper ?

hidden viper
pure ingot
azure pond
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6000c30 is the sweet spot

pure ingot
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thats the cheapest cl30 I can find

azure pond
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Also gauranteed hynix, 6000c36 or worse is likely samsung

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There's $93 non rgb 6000c30 atm

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Both black and white from silicon power

pure ingot
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where at

azure pond
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One sec

pure ingot
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yeh I'd go with that ^^

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unless you really want RGB on the ram which is unnecessary imo

hidden viper
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Alr bet

pure ingot
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Just so you know, to use that CPU with that Mobo, you might have to update the bios. So make sure you have another PC and a usb flash drive on hand just in case.

azure pond
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What cpu?

pure ingot
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7800x3D

azure pond
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Any of 7000 series it's highly, highly unlikely

pure ingot
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the 3Ds have that problem sometimes

azure pond
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Yeah you'd have to be getting very old stock for it to not be compatible bios

pure ingot
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but it's still possible, so good to have on hand. He will likely need a USB for the windows installation media anyways

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We just had someone recently had to do that lol

azure pond
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That's true, I haven't heard of it from any of the dozens of 7800x3d build lists I've helped make just to give an idea of the odds though (not trying to argue or anything just giving an idea)

azure pond
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What mobo was it if you remember

pure ingot
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ik what you mean. But people were saying that about the 2600x too when my cousin got it and his mobo was old enough to not support it even though mine (bought from the same place and it's the same mobo) supported it out of the box lol

azure pond
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Tbf did your cousin alr have the mobo or did he buy a new one?

pure ingot
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uhhhhh idr but i think it was an asus board? it had the bios flash on the left side of the I/O with a flash button to make it super easy

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he bought all his pc parts new

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mine were for upgrades lol

azure pond
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Ah

pure ingot
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but we ended up with the same mobo but I had the 2600 and he got the 2600x to try to slightly outdo me

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I had to put my cpu in his pc to update the bios.

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im glad they've added the bios update usb port to motherboards, it seems as a standard?

azure pond
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That's funny

azure pond
pure ingot
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alr, the last few i've looked at have had it lol.

azure pond
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Yeah it's nice

pure ingot
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Another thing that's becoming more common that I love is the LED post debugger.

azure pond
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A lot of lesser used features have become very common

pure ingot
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I'm deaf so using those toners are hard lmao

azure pond
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How many boards have 3-4 m.2 slots now lol

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Most b450s only have 1

pure ingot
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bruh someone mentioned that to me earlier today and I was like wtf gimme

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mine has 2 and I thought I was ballin

azure pond
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Mine has 4

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I have 3.5tb in ssd storage and 4tb in hdd storage in my pc

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Just going to sell the hdd atp I don't need this much storage

pure ingot
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I got 4tb in hdd storage, 500gb in m.2, 500 in sata SSD.

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although one of my 2tb hdds is apparently on it's last leg. Like it still reads healthy and works fine, but...

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people keep telling me it's gonna fail any minute lol

thin bolt
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I have nothing

thin bolt
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Obviously used but everyone was talking about how their drives are still going strong

pure ingot
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I would love to, wanna gimme the money cause I got a whopping 5 dollar in my bank account and a baby on the way 😂

hidden viper
pure ingot
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Yo that's some mighty fine savings you got there

hidden viper
pure ingot
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I think that's an upgrade from my specs lmao

thin bolt
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I’ll take your spare parts

I’m on a 550w PSU

thats it

pure ingot
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How do you connect to the Internet and use discord on a 550w PSU by itself HyperThinkRotate

thin bolt
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can this 550w PSU run doom?

pure ingot
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Using your phone is cheating

thin bolt
hidden viper
pure ingot
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ok so your cpu is slightly better than mine but somehow the 970 is better than a 1650? weird.

hidden viper
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Yeah

pure ingot
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i mean both are slight

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but an edge is an edge

thin bolt
jolly inlet
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The issue with the 970 would be the lack of driver support, so it'll be hard to run modern games since there's no driver optimization

pure ingot
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I mean I don't really have that many issues with it at all. I do wanna upgrade it again though. I gave my 2070 to my brother a couple years ago for christmas lol

thin bolt
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@jolly inlet what gpu do you recommend that isn’t bad for modern games and has support for things like dx12/rtx, but isn’t too expensive

jolly inlet
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The 1070 should be easy to find for $120

thin bolt
jolly inlet
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2060 super maybe

thin bolt
high radish
#

Where the heck is 4th deals lol . I was looking for some but theres Literally nothing kekw

thin bolt
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I saw a few 40% off

on Amazon basic stuff

high radish
balmy lake
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Everyone is waiting for the real (/s) holiday to compete with Prime Day

azure pond
#
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Gpu is basically just a display out

cinder kiln
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That's kinda nice tbh

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Basic pc, basic things, but six core ryzen

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Seller checks out

thin bolt
cinder kiln
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Oem

zenith lantern
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@cinder kiln i bought the alphacool stuff and parts to make a drain port in loop

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☠️

thin bolt
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It surprises me that this stuff still gets hella views

trim pier
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No clue if you’re able to stack Newegg giftcards

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Especially the digital

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Cause if you are, theoretically you can get a 7900 gre in Minnesota for only 300$.

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Pulse model btw.

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Cause you’d pay only with gift cards and since you’re getting $10 for only $5, basically cut the price in half. 580.3/2=290.15 and you’d need only 30 gift cards to finish the purchase.

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Well more like 29 and just pay the 15 cents kekw

thin bolt
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Mercari: Your Marketplace

Used internal hard drives pulled from working machines. Some hard drives have not been fully tested but all have been wiped using DBAN.

Hard Drive Models:
Western Digital WD800JD-98LSA0
Western Digital WD1600JS-22MHB0
Western Digital WD1600AAJS-60PSA0
Seagate ST3500630AS
Seagate ST500DM002 (2x)
Seagate ST3400620AS
Seagate ST380815AS
Toshiba DT0...

proper wagon
trim pier
proper wagon
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Gotta sign in to buy too otherwise I was like maaaybe?

azure pond
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Oh that was alr said

stoic crest
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@cinder kiln that's basically how much i paid for my mp33 back in 2023

torpid night
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Might go pickup that SSD later lol

balmy lake
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Yay, just in time for no funds and no time. Gotta prep for a dam hurricane. 🌀 😝

stoic crest
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life gets in the way of deals

balmy lake
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Aye. More often than not.

daring depot
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Oof. Hurricane season

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One of the benefits of the West Coast is no hurricanes but the heat...

jolly inlet
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Except for that time California had 2 hurricanes

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Which was last year I think?

shut lava
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No hurricanes in exchange for forest fires, earthquakes, and landslides.

thin bolt
jolly inlet
balmy lake
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Every place has its issues.

pulsar fable
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We get flooding?

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Oh right the NYC subway seems to flood every so often

opal flume
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We did in NE NY and Vermont

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Rivers get too high and suddenly bridges are just gone

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We had an entire road blocked off for a month once due to prolonged flooding.

thin bolt
opal flume
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No, you guys just have contaminated water supplies. Susquehanna go brrrr

daring depot
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America Ya!

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Land of extreme weather

opal flume
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Also, PA isn't inspiring the no flooding vibe, the one year I lived there the Lackawanna flooded

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And then the roads flooded after getting six and a half in snow and one and a half inches of rain within the span of five days

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I rember that one. The road right beside my dorm was a slurry so when I went to get pizza it just went everywhere

high radish
#

7600x is same price at amazon too

azure pond
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$390 13900k is pretty good as long as you get a non z board or limit the voltage

torpid night
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Logitech
$120 for a headphone/mic combo
Audio is wirelessly transmitted
$25 headphone audio quality

high radish
pallid geyser
torpid night
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I'm saying the exact opposite 💀

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$120 for $25 audio quality is crazy

torpid night
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You must be dyslexic

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Or you're being ironic

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can't tell 💀

proper wagon
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It is a pretty good deal

pallid geyser
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(sarcastic)

cinder kiln
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Pc38x beats it same price, hell koss porta pro would too if you just want accurate sound

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Those are $40

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iirc on that one audiophile tier list

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They're like

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C-

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Or D+

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Lol

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One of the few I remember

trim pier
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Is there any tech deals for students atm?

jolly inlet
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Prime Day is soon, so naturally many other retailers will be doing similar events

frosty gate
fair moon
jolly inlet
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Just a casual 2.67 exabytes written

shut spoke
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Darn

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The everest max that was $80 arrived in my city and was supposed to be delivered today but was canceled due to a pricing error

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I might reach out via chat to see if they will honor their original price

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Was going to buy the 65% for 20 but got the max instead. Now I missed out on both deals

jolly inlet
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If they refuse you can sue them since you're entitled to the lowest advertised price of a product

shut spoke
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Seems like it was canceled for everyone who bought the product

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From reddit, it seems like only some of the deals were honored. $10 keyboard from mountain arrived for some but $20 version after initial sale was canceled

jolly inlet
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I smell class action

shut spoke
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😔this might be why many say they avoid shopping from newegg now

tawdry dragon
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yeah my friend got it really bad from newegg

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he ordered a 7900xtx from there, and it came with a broken pcie connector.

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newegg refused to refund it, and deleted his acc

shut spoke
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The supposed new date of delivery is the 12 and they arent connecting to the chat so i will wait until then and actually call them

shut spoke
tawdry dragon
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yeah it's really bad, I'll see if he can use the warrantee

jolly inlet
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Might be worth contacting GN, they'll chew out wegg again

tawdry dragon
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saying that while in the newegg discord

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kinda ironic lol

jolly inlet
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Exactly. I'm not a Newegg employee, I can criticize them when it's warranted.

tawdry dragon
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true that

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I never really liked buying from newegg, since the first purchase that I made with them ended up getting shipped to an address in texas when it was supposed to arrive in minnesota

high radish
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honestly my newegg experience is good lol bought tons of things from wegg without issue

shut spoke
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Reaching out through their reddit support seems to be working so far

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Ill see what they can do

thin bolt
shut spoke
shut spoke
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If i wanted to be scammy i prolly could have used those eggpoints elsewhere lol

fair moon
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I hate how nowadays you often have to go to social media to get support. At least reddit is better than twitter/X

shut spoke
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Newegg has a deal for a $100 GC for 85

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I think only one per account though

pallid geyser
#

Still not the old TikTok deals but pretty good nonetheless

azure pond
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3x the price I got my p41 plus for lol

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The cpu and mobo are great deals

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Could do a good value am5 igpu build with that

azure pond
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There's teamgroup t create classic hynix for $60 after coupon

pallid geyser
tawdry dragon
azure pond
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@marsh sphinx not a deal

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12900ks was just 245, and 13600fk matches the 12900k in multi core, and slightly pulls ahead in single, and is $220

high radish
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@void lance 405$ after code ztudiscord2024

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Code works with open box producs only I think

azure pond
#

W

soft sleet
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how many times can you use the newegg buy $100 gift card, get $15 gift card? it says one per user customer, but it seems to load again

thin bolt
soft sleet
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that's what i thought...also, if anybody missed yesterday, that $100/$85 link is back up and good (if not already noted)

thin bolt
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@azure pond any ~$50 higher than 75hz monitors around?

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no

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you can find solid monitors high refresh around that price on fbm

thin bolt
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Ah true true

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i wonder why the victus deal got a downvote

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if it's hp's reputation of crappy laptops

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no, the victus is fine

desert ruin
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you can't find a 4060 prebuilt for that little

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let alone one that's not an oem rig

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cpu is def very old tho, oof

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overall it's a meh proposition

desert ruin
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used 5600 + 6700xt = perfection

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or a 3600

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im aware as much

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but ig if you're that desperate for a pc, it can sorta be worth it

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but otherwise just build it yourself

desert ruin
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js looking at the 4060's i7 that doesnt say the gen's pc

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you can immedieately say its still on ddr3

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it has 6th gen i7

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so something like i7 6700

desert ruin
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yeah

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😭

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and the i3 14100f on the another one is booty ass cheeks

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4 core in 2024

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that's why i said it was meh

desert ruin
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s

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also can you explain the downvote on the hp victus?

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i really wanna hear your opinion

desert ruin
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you can always upgrade the ram

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512gb SSD.

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and 4050 isn't all that bad

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512 gb ssd is also standard for cheaper gaming laptops

desert ruin
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i own a laptop with 4050 myself, and it's fine

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100 bucks gets you 32gb of ddr5

desert ruin
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still a pretty garbo card

stoic crest
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and opening up a laptop isn't hard

desert ruin
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buh

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you can still live with 512gb

desert ruin
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its also incredibly thin which Is sure going to have great thermals!

stoic crest
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please, check reviews before commenting on laptops

desert ruin
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also, poorly mounted hinges!

stoic crest
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the victus has decent thermals

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hinges that are solid enough

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etc

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with decent batt life due to zen 4

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other laptops with 4050, 8gb of ram and 512 gigs ssd are 699+ atm

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but in the end the opinion is yours, i merely wanted to hear it after all

desert ruin
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Also its 979 original price what the fuuuuuuuu

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4050 isn't a bad card, especially for laptops

desert ruin
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omfg

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it's fairly efficient for the kinda perf it offers, and according to 3dmark time spy, it churns out scores matching 1080 desktop

desert ruin
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there are no bad cards

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js badly priced

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which matches 3060 laptop

desert ruin
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no

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i don't

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6gb of vram

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and still

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loses

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to past gen.

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because honestly 6gb is fine

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and 4050 is a lower tier than 3060

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so like it performing like a higher tier card while being on cheaper laptops

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it's great

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3060 laptop is like 400 used