tech-deals-discussion

[trim pier]

Is it?

Cause I would really want to buy that even though I have a ddr4 board..

[jolly inlet]

All I can say for certain is the kit MSI got was A die, those timings can technically be any 16Gb die. Asus, Gigabyte, and Asrock don't have it so I can't cross compare findings.
A couple amazon listings also claim it's A die but take that with a grain of salt.

[trim pier]

Just a little note to everyone who bought that mini fridge from Walmart

I unfortunately spent my 11$ just to have to ship it back, it has not gotten cool at all in the past 8 hours, with it on and with two cans inside it. Double check yours work because it seems like the price was too good to be true 😔

[azure pond]

rip

[trim pier]

They also sent the wrong model

They gave me the one with the car on the front in black

[jolly inlet]

Exactly the level of competence and quality I expect from walmart

[pallid geyser]

Well that’s promising

[trim pier]

Hey

atleast I got free shipping

[jolly inlet]

How much is your time and mental anguish worth to you

I bill myself at $30 an hour personally, so this problem wouldn't be worth more than half an hour of my time.

I'm in the same position with my keyboard. Cheapo EVGA keeb died on me. It's not worth the time spent setting up the RMA and shipping it, the thing only costs $20. So I just buy a new one or use a spare.

[lone forge]

Amazon failed. They sent two packages, one had my 3mm thermal pads and my thermal paste, one bag was supposed to have my 1mm thermal pads. The bag with the 1mm pads was empty ...nothing in it

[torpid night]

nothing we can do about it

this is the newegg server lol

[lone forge]

Ik

Shoot, I have my beef with Newegg rn...Newegg owes me $425 still

[torpid night]

nothing we can do about that either 💀

[trim pier]

Rip, I wanted to return that msi keyboard i bought cause it was just too loud but now I can't return it

I liked it, just it was way too loud

I'm so used to the low profile and very quiet (even though it's a basic dell keyboard) switches it's got

[stoic crest]

They're membrane, those dell keebs

[torpid night]

Ew

[stoic crest]

Well the one good thing is they're near silent lol

The ones that have keys that look like laptop chiclet

You gotta pay a lot more to get similar silence on a mech keeb so

Sometimes it makes sense if all you care about is noise and cheap

[shut lava]

I bought that $76 6000c30 32gb DDR5 posted recently. Yesterday it was out for delivery form Amazon. It never showed up. Now its saying that its delayed and hasn't shipped yet. Was it a pricing error?

[pallid geyser]

Doubt it, probably just typical shipping issues. Amazon is good about messaging back if you message their customer support

[shut lava]

Its just odd because the tracking info showed it being less than 10 stops away. Then it changed to "Delayed, not shipped yet."

[balmy lake]

Its happened to me before. Could be the truck broke down. Or one of those new e-trucks ran out of charge, lol

Or the driver had an emergency they had to leave for. Any number of reasons, really.

[cinder kiln]

Emergency poop

Sorry electric truck

E-mergency poop

[jolly inlet]

Or the driver "lost" the package

[cinder kiln]

"E-lost" it

Gotta keep up with the times Fal

[jolly inlet]

Sorry you're right

[stoic crest]

Everything is electronic

Must add E-anything

[cinder kiln]

Old McDonald's Farm saw it coming decades ago and he was ready for change

[stoic crest]

lmao

[jolly inlet]

As one of the oldest people in the room I can safely say I was not

[shut lava]

Usually its a completely different message when there is a delivery issue. I've had delivery issues such as things being damaged on the delivery truck.

[jolly inlet]

I was a driver for them for a while. It depends on the exact reason the package was delayed, but the turnaround time for things like driver emergencies is usually about 2 days.

Side note, every such delayed package costs amazon about $75 including all costs like labor

[thin bolt]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304491670720?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Ok6NaWEKSPa&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=rej26bxrr_g&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

$77 4500

[azure pond]

thats meh

$4 more is much better for the 3600 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9nm323/amd-ryzen-5-3600-36-thz-6-core-processor-100-100000031box

[thin bolt]

Ah frick

Thought I found a deal

[marsh sphinx]

Hi bacca

[azure pond]

Hi

[torpid night]

Hi bacca

[azure pond]

Hi

[pallid geyser]

Hi

[molten halo]

Hi

[thin bolt]

Hi

[vague pine]

waifu gpu on sale

https://www.newegg.com/yeston-rx7900xt-20gd6-sugar-ya/p/27N-0042-000H0

[jolly inlet]

Extra $100 off if you use Zip and an $80 wegg card... You could get a XTX for $800 and tax.

[vague pine]

it is xtx and its waifu card

[trim pier]

Well.. Walmart sent me a replacement for something I wanted refunded.

Makes total sense.

• They'll be charging me again if I don't return it in time. Which I definitely will be returning tomorrow 💀

[balmy lake]

Thought you could take walmart purchases back to the store instead of sending it back.

?

[shut lava]

With both WalMart and Target I've taken online purchases back to the store.

[trim pier]

They said I either ship it back with my choice of carrier or go through FedEx

I asked them in store and the dude told me no 🤷

[fair moon]

Walmart is trying to become amazon

Or become like Amazon, I guess

Much more emphasis on their online storefront

[balmy lake]

Even with Amazon, i can take it to Kohl’s. And i think you can even take it Whole Foods if you have one close.

Whelp, there we go. Specifically says online purchases by mail. Only in store purchases/pick ups can go back to the store.

[jolly inlet]

Once again

[fair moon]

Only thing I fw Walmart for is Great Value groceries

The knockoff snacks are great

[torpid night]

Nah bro that ain't it 😭

[jolly inlet]

"Great" is not the word I'd use. Passable? Adequate? Edible? Those maybe.

[shut lava]

I had some of Wal Mart's imitation Girl Scout cookies and they were good. I would have trouble telling the real ones from the fakes.

[fair moon]

Yup, I have the Samoa knockoffs and they're about as good for like 1/2 the price

And I wouldn't be surprised if the knockoff candy bars are made in the same factory as main brand

[trim pier]

Funny they only give me 30 days

[balmy lake]

Maybe because it’s a clearance item? Further up in that FAQ they had a list of exceptions. I didn’t read it though.

No lie, when it used to be named Sam’s Choice, the peanut butter cups put Reese’s to shame. They used actual peanut butter instead if that crumbly powdery stuff the Reese’s uses.

[light holly]

Sugar lol

[fair moon]

Trader Joe's has some really good peanut butter cups

Dark chocolate as well

[marsh sphinx]

Hehe boys

I’m confessing my love to this girl at my work

[cinder kiln]

Looking forward to the tech deal you confess to her

[stoic crest]

[marsh sphinx]

Yes

NOOOOO

she doesnt work today 😫

[cinder kiln]

Perfect time to confess to her about all these great tech deals then

If she acts now she can get a $145 prime x670. What more could she want?? Love? Pffft

[marsh sphinx]

Shes a pc nerd like me

Sooo

And shes also a builder

[balmy lake]

Unfortunately closest trader joe’s is like 50mi from me and there’s usually a short line to get in. Besides, I caught the diabeetus a couple of years ago so I settle for the occasional Russel Stover’s sugarfree PB cups. Wilfred Brimley would be proud.

[jolly inlet]

Dark chocolate is diabetus friendly usually, if you get the unsweetened kind

I know some people can't handle the bitterness though

[fair moon]

The trader Joe's aren't super dark and I think the peanut butter still has some sugar added

Probably better than reeses but not as good as true sugar free ones

[cinder kiln]

Man

When I went to america

Even your freaking water tasted sweet

I can't begin to imagine what dark chocolate tastes like, I never got around to it

[fair moon]

Mmmm lead

[cinder kiln]

Your dark chocolate probably tastes like regular chocolate here

Smh

[fair moon]

There's good dark chocolate here

All the cheap milk chocolate is nasty though

[jolly inlet]

Ever had 100% cacao? I have, and I love it

[cinder kiln]

Jfc you like that?

Yes I have

I had to for a diet

[jolly inlet]

I'm the weirdo that likes bitter flavors

[cinder kiln]

That ain't even bitter

It's practically smoke

💀

[trim pier]

I love how everything is sweet in America

[cinder kiln]

In my defence

In my defence

[trim pier]

While some things have “0 sugar”

[cinder kiln]

They made me eat like

[trim pier]

Defense*

Jk

[cinder kiln]

2 blocks of dark chocolate a day on this diet

So I had a lot at the time

I was testing for allergies

[jolly inlet]

Ok even I get sick of that eventually

Same with black licorice

[trim pier]

Ew

[cinder kiln]

Right? I spent my entire life's worth of dark chocolate in 7 days

[trim pier]

Black licorice is just disgusting

[jolly inlet]

You're entitled to that opinion

[cinder kiln]

It gets better as you get older

[trim pier]

😭 it just tastes like mush

[jolly inlet]

Personally I think it's over-sweetened so it loses the natural licorice flavor

[cinder kiln]

Lol

I'm more of a red licorice person tbh

[fair moon]

Red licorice is mid

[cinder kiln]

But I definitely am more ok with it now than I was

[trim pier]

Personally we all agree

That green tea KitKat

Is the stuff

[cinder kiln]

Never had it

[jolly inlet]

I saw that and almost tried it for the meme

[cinder kiln]

I don't live in willy wonka lands

[fair moon]

They're actually quite good

[cinder kiln]

We don't get "choices"

[trim pier]

They are really good

[cinder kiln]

Here, we get "kit kat"

And "snickers"

No "raspberry moon" or whatever

[trim pier]

KitKats have like hundreds of flavors

[jolly inlet]

You would die in a standard gas station convenience store then

[trim pier]

Like I saw double sided KitKats

One side carnel one side dark chocolate

[cinder kiln]

I used to work in one

[jolly inlet]

Not just 10 flavors of every bar, but also 8 different sizes of each

[trim pier]

AMERICAAAAA

[cinder kiln]

The sweets section

[trim pier]

Why need one gun

When you can have 16 of the same one!

[cinder kiln]

I could reach one side to the other without stretching my arms

[jolly inlet]

The sweets section that took up 2 entire aisles

[cinder kiln]

Nah fam

I never worked in one that was like a costco in size

This place was quaint

💀

[jolly inlet]

The one across the street from me has 8 pumps, I believe that's about as standard a comparison as I can make it, and the inside of the store was less area than the pumps outside

And it has 2 aisles of sweets right next to the chip aisle

[cinder kiln]

8 is pretty normal here

It depends on the lot size

Some have the space for a decent amount of product some don't

[jolly inlet]

I mean like the space that 8 pumps would take up

[cinder kiln]

No I am too

I'm saying the shop that adjacents it

Those aren't always standardised

They're optimised

[jolly inlet]

Yeah

[balmy lake]

Lol

Yall dunno what kinda gas stations we have in Texas

May I introduce you to Buc-ee’s

Also, my goto:

[ashen rune]

any laptop deals? my brother is looking for one for school, smth portable/no gpu for longer battery

[jolly inlet]

Sure but the space that 8 fuel pumps takes up is almost the same from that pic. I was just using that as a metric to compare the size of the convenience store against, since I don't feel like converting imperial to metric today.

[balmy lake]

8 in the same space as 100+??

[jolly inlet]

You've completely misunderstood what I said

8 fuel pumps at that station is the same space as 8 pumps at another station

[balmy lake]

ah, ok, lol

[thin bolt]

@stoic crest

[fair moon]

Check r/laptopdeals

[trim pier]

I don’t know if the post will hold but if you shower and don’t put anything on, wanting to get into smelling good, great starter cologne imo

Though to get the best cologne & advice is asking women 🤷‍♂️

[grand orbit]

Dark? That looks like black chocolate (black cacoa is what oreo uses)

[trim pier]

if you think that's black chocolate you haven't seen true DARK chocolate 😭

Off the web but that's 90% Cacao

[grand orbit]

Oh dam

Probably tastes disgusting

[civic sun]

hey don't shame dark chocolate

[keen marsh]

Pretty sure it's meant to be paired with something no?

Coffee or tea or something.

[civic sun]

yeah sometimes ill have with tea, or sometimes I'll just take a piece as a quick snack

most of the time I go for 86% but I've had as high as 94

[pulsar fable]

I've had 72% but not 90%

[azure pond]

Ddr4 board :c

Imo id just grab this for a ddr4 system
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3pNxFT/asrock-z690-pro-rs-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-pro-rs

[trim pier]

https://computers.woot.com/offers/msi-mpg-z690-edge-wifi-ddr4-3?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_pc_8_11

Or https://sellout.woot.com/offers/msi-mag-z790-tomahawk-wifi-ddr4-open-box-2?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_pc_8_15

[jolly inlet]

Regarding that motherboard/cpu bundle, the mobo is what I'd call "barely passable" and it would likely power throttle from poor VRM cooling with a 5950X. It's acceptable for a 5800X but not anything higher.

Unless you want to point a fan directly at the VRM heatsinks

[cinder kiln]

I had to have two whole blocks of these a day for a week

But 95%

[cinder kiln]

[grand orbit]

You thought you had a cocoa allergy?

[cinder kiln]

Cocoa has amines

But yes was testing for both

[grand orbit]

What's?

[thin bolt]

https://item.mercari.com/gl/m49438859175?sv=0 $290 for this?

[fair moon]

I'm seeing $320 +95 shipping

do you mean like what's a fair price?

[shut lava]

$95.00 delivery fee on that PC?

[thin bolt]

Ye

[thin bolt]

Mercari takes it straight from the pay

Seller gets shafted and so does consumer

[thin bolt]

$290 is the offer I got sent

[fair moon]

ah

would you be paying shipping as well or are you local?

[thin bolt]

Shipping.

[fair moon]

I'm not super in tune with the used market atm

5700xt's are going for like $150 shipped on ebay

some for lower even

[thin bolt]

That’s alright. I was just askin.

[fair moon]

depends how much shipping is for you but at $290 + $95 i probably would say it's not worth it

[thin bolt]

[thin bolt]

https://item.mercari.com/gl/m78173516189?sv=0

Low quality 16gb ram for very cheap https://item.mercari.com/gl/m76250972107?sv=0

[jolly inlet]

@azure pond Was there any special way to get that RM850X down in price? I see it at $115 after coupon, which is still good for that unit but higher than other brands.
Maybe there was a price error?

[azure pond]

Ah sale just ended

Well changed

Before it was $125 before coupon I think

[tiny dirge]

you should mention it’s OC, probably gets close to 6950 #tech-deals message

@azure pond

in my humble opinion

[azure pond]

Eh

The two are already close anyways

[tiny dirge]

nonsense!

i get a tiny bit more memory bandwith!

[shut lava]

Its an OC Formula, Its probably the best 6900 XT XOC card due to the power delivery design and the XTXH GPU.

[cinder kiln]

It's practically an honourary 6950XT in fact

Just with a lower vram clock limit

[thin bolt]

https://item.mercari.com/gl/m45766674331?sv=0

Would be nice without the reboot issue

[jolly inlet]

ASUS WHY

Why would you add the GPU memory to that

It made this person list it as a 40GB laptop which is just...

Why

Wait

No

NO

WHY

Do they have 8GB+32GB in that thing?

That is just awful

They do 😭

If I had to guess, the reboots are from the memory being two different dies

[thin bolt]

So easily fixable

[jolly inlet]

But also not fixable without buying a new matched kit of memory so you might as well get something better

[thin bolt]

Ah true

[azure pond]

@jolly inlet this worth posting?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/295986890634?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Ok6NaWEKSPa&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Montech century gold 850, $68

I'm on mobile and don't like dealing with tier list on mobile

[stoic crest]

an hour late but, zephs only have one ram slot

there's 8gb soldered

[cinder kiln]

Absolutely if it's a legit article

Wait no

It's not titan hold on

It's good

$68 is actually excellent

It's not titan but it's damn good enough for most things

Well

Most things up to the mid-range

Like some combination with a 7800xt maybe

[azure pond]

Like c tier ish then?

[cinder kiln]

Kinda yea

Good for redundancy cheap 850w

Not really worthy of full 850w

[azure pond]

Ty, just posted

[balmy lake]

My ROG Strix is same. But i only did 8+8. Never had crashes. Came from factory with 8+4.

Also, mine was only 2400, and i matched that. They may have gotten with speed timings too far out of sync?

[jolly inlet]

The differences don't stop at speeds. Having unequal memory like that means only part of the memory is running in dual channel mode.

[brisk sphinx]

Damn zephs have one slot soldered?

My scar 17 came with 2x16 and swappable ram slots

[torpid night]

Asus moment

Even my Vivobook from 2019 has one slot soldered

The unsoldered stick is a cheap stick too

[high radish]

I mean can't you just solder bigger ram chip ?

I wonder if controller supports it lol

[stoic crest]

They could

But the mobos are pretty space constrained so

And cost is also a big factor

They probably have bulk orders of 8gb sticks and chips

[cinder kiln]

Seems like a strong case of sunk cost fallacy to go as far as soldering more ram

[stoic crest]

Yep

[high radish]

Lol I just want to try it . But my laptop have dual slot

[balmy lake]

Even my old HUGE Gigabyte has 2 slots. Although, i did break one of the clips and had to use a piece of rubber foam to keep pressure on it, lol

[high radish]

I never heard that monitor brand before

Even tho it's OLED I worry about its quality

[brittle lagoon]

It's just a LG panel

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/ktc-oled-g27p6/

[cinder kiln]

The ktc one should be very good

Same good panel, but way nicer price

[high radish]

Hmm thats good to know. Thanks

[jolly inlet]

Biggest concern would be firmware. Hardware is one of 2 vendors and both are good.

[shut lava]

The "Used" $399.99 Asrock 6900 XT OC formula showed up this evening. The ones listed as refurbished for $399.99 were sold out so I picked used and took a chance. It showed up in a plain white Asrock box and still had the plastic protective film on the card and fan hubs. It looks new.

[torpid night]

yo congratulations

[azure pond]

W

[jolly inlet]

Nice luck, sounds like you got one that was returned for damaged packaging

[torpid night]

@azure pond LET ME UPVOTE

[high radish]

I see great monitor deals recently

Thanks for sharing those tho

[torpid night]

Bruh I got mine that does 170Hz for $280 about a year ago :/

[civic sun]

hey my 1080p 240hz tn panel was nearly 500usd when I bought it 🙂

[torpid night]

My brother in Christ. Where and when did you get a $500 TN panel?

Tell me that was in like 2012 or something because that's insane for a TN

[fleet marlin]

Probably closer to 2016, but there was of course a time even just 240hz on 1080p cost quite a bit.

[torpid night]

I thought of that after I posted my message lol

240Hz would be nuts in 2012 tbh, let alone even 144Hz or anything slightly higher

[jolly inlet]

How many GPUs could push 240 fps in 2012 at any settings

[torpid night]

That was Nvidia's GTX era, their 600-series was available at the time. I doubt they could push themselves to 240 fps lmaooo

[civic sun]

I mostly played comp games and rhythm games so it was fine

tbh I don't remember the year but it was a bit after the first consumer release of 240hz panels

hmm looking at my email it looks like it was around 2016-2017

[torpid night]

So like the GTX 1000 era

[jolly inlet]

Dang the GTX 680 was back when Skyrim was still a benchmark game

And it only did 70 fps

[torpid night]

Not bad for a Bethesda game

even then were we dealing with poorly released games

[torpid night]

1920x1200 💀

[fleet marlin]

Also not bad if 70fps was on a CRT instead. -- gpu itself ignored, it's neat how good of games some could fit into only 2-4GB of vram. -- Ah, have yet to play it.

[jolly inlet]

TPU said this too 💀

If only they knew Todd would trick them into buying it 8 times

[plain cosmos]

PRO B650M-A WIFI and ryzen 5 7600x should i buy them or wait next year and any help pls asap

[torpid night]

Guys somebody help this guy he needs help as soon as possible

[quasi pasture]

buy x99 instead

||dont||

[jolly inlet]

It depends. If you can wait I would. Next gen AMD is supposed to be much better than current in just about every way.

[plain cosmos]

How did u know

[jolly inlet]

Mostly leaks at this point, but most of the leaks agree that overall performance will increase roughly 20-25%, partly due to a clock speed increase and partly due to IPC and memory improvements.

This means the expected 9600X should match the current top dog 7800X3D in gaming, and the 9800X will be better in every task.

Keeping in mind that in order for Intel to match the 7800X3D they need to push the 14900K CPU so hard it fails in 6 months, Intel will be hard pressed to keep up at that rate.

[grave delta]

Intel already does that

[jolly inlet]

I need an "out of video memory" emoji

Then I'll post it on the Intel server and watch the fanboys seethe

[lofty moss]

best resolution for modern applications

this dude buggin

16:10 peak

fight me

[high radish]

16:10 is good for laptop too

[jolly inlet]

That A380 is tempting. 750 ti doesn't transcode 4k too well, I could use an upgrade to something with AV1.

[shut lava]

The Asrock A380 has a higher core clock than the sparkle A380 according to the stats on Newegg. I wonder if its incorrect or if Asrock has a higher core clock by default.

The Asrork A380 card has OC in its manufacturer's model name/number.

[jolly inlet]

That's entirely possible. The manufacturers are usually allowed to make minor adjustments to the vbios like boost clock speeds.

Do not buy a card simply because it has a higher advertised boost clock, though. It's not anything you can't set yourself in 5 minutes.

Basically just pick the one that you like the looks of more on same priced cards like this

[fair moon]

AV1 is very tempting for me as well, but also $100 would be a significant chunk of cash towards just upgrading my current gpu

[shut lava]

I was thinking about getting the A380 for AV1 encoding.

Supposedly higher GPU clocks make it encode AV1 a little faster.

That's why I was curious about the Asrock. No need to run any software to make it run at higher clock speed, just let it do its thing.

[fair moon]

(from techpowerup)

the fact that base and boost are the same (for the asrock itx) is a little odd

asrock lists base clock as 2250
https://www.asrock.com/Graphics-Card/Intel/Intel Arc A380 Challenger ITX 6GB OC/#Specification

doesn't list a boost

[cinder kiln]

@lunar thorn lisa su?

[azure pond]

Can any mod see my message in #tech-deals

[cinder kiln]

Which

[shut lava]

One of my friends is insisting on buying a prebuilt with a RTX 4070 or 4070 Super. However I'm finding mixed reviews of all the prebuilts. Even some of the reviews on GamersNexus give good and bad reviews for the same brand depending on the model of the system. So what are the good prebuilt brands with good customer service?

[cinder kiln]

Starforge

Anything else is a genuine mixed bag apparently

But that said, based on reviews alone, it depends so much on the person building it

You could always get an idiot building at any company, so buying a prebuilt just generally carries that enormous risk

Or they could be the most attentive and experienced builder and they do a 11/10 job on it, while working at who knows, Dell?

I find it way better to have a friend nearby who could build it for a tip

Saves a lot of money and potential issues in shipping since it's assembled locally

[shut lava]

I love on the opposite side of the country so I'd build one for him, but he is computer illiterate and wants support and a warranty.

[cinder kiln]

If that's what he wants it's fine, just prefacing something that is quite a common issue is all

When you buy individually you also get much longer warranties as well

You know instead of the typical one year, two years, you get five, or seven

[stoic crest]

I can't see starforge logo and not think of bad things

[cinder kiln]

I'm also one of the last people in here to recommend a prebuilt tbf lol

[stoic crest]

Logo do be a bit sussy

But they seem decent

[cinder kiln]

I often suggest a laptop in place of a prebuilt since instead of spending on a builder, you get a screen and portability instead lol

[thin bolt]

Where he at

[shut lava]

A rural part of Washington state where there are no small local PC shops.

[thin bolt]

F

[pallid geyser]

Dang

4070ti build sold out

[marsh sphinx]

Oof

[fringe olive]

@marsh sphinx I think that monitor is 2k not 4k.

[marsh sphinx]

Hm

Interesting

Mb

Thx for noticing

[fringe olive]

I was like 4k 165 hz for 300 usd would be kinda crazy,

[marsh sphinx]

Sorry about that

Can’t really tell the difference

[grave delta]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CX23V2ZK

$989

[fair moon]

I see a lot of people online bashing the M chip macbooks for coming with 8gb ram on the base model. Am I right to assume macOS is lighter on memory/less bloated and thus will run considerably better with 8gb than a windows machine would?

Also, here's the M2 version for $850. Not sure how the M2 compares to M3
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B3CDZLTB?ascsubtag=laptopmag-us-1145231969923226059-20

M1 for 700, again I don't really know how the different chips compare
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Apple-MacBook-Air-13-3-inch-Laptop-Silver-M1-Chip-8GB-RAM-256GB-storage/609040889

[civic sun]

I'd say it's fine for the casual user that is only really browsing the internet or opening pdfs and word docs. Anything more and I'd at very least get 16gb

Apple tries to justify the 8gb by using swap to compensate which works fairly well since they have pretty fast drives but that will eat on drive lifespan over time

[fair moon]

I would assume most people getting an Air are fairly casual

My dad had a 2012-13 Air, pretty much used it for web searches and email. Used it for 10 12 years (!) and just recently got a new Air.

[jolly inlet]

8GB is definitely more usable on mac. It's evolved from the same roots as Linux and is better at managing memory, similar to how Android does it. That said, if you're doing anything more than browsing, emails, word processing, etc you probably still want 16GB.

[balmy lake]

Oops…

Fixed

[azure pond]

love me some ps evo

[balmy lake]

Should clarify, that’s state-side, I believe.

Im planning on installing it myself tomorrow.

[fleet marlin]

3 left, haha/

[normal spear]

16 gigs isnt even an expensive upgrade either

Screw apple 🔥

[stoic crest]

It's expensive because they tell you it is

Apple very trustworthy /j

[shut lava]

I think the $49.90 price is the normal price of the Phantom Spirit EVO. Maybe its 9 cents lower than normal. Still a good cooler for the price though.

[balmy lake]

It was more about finding it in stock, stateside with free shipping. It’s $49.99 from a 3rd party seller on Newegg with $19.99 shipping from Hong Kong. Otherwise the only place ive found it in stock was AliExpress, and I don’t buy from there anymore.

[civic sun]

not me... I have a m1 air with 16gb that I use for photo/video/audio editing as well as light animation work and if you ignore the occasional low memory warning when using large files in lightroom or not enough cache in after effects I'd say it works decently. Decently enough that I still prefer it over my 9900k+3070ti desktop most of the time lol

[thin bolt]

I used an older iPad for some heavy photo editing for a while
They do surprisingly well

[civic sun]

ipads are overpowered for what they do so they generally last pretty long ya

[fleet marlin]

$200 ipad 9th gen sure was good for me. I should use it more often though.

[high radish]

Calculator joined chat

[quasi pasture]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B093LV8SPK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

thoughts?

its 20 bucks rn

[stoic crest]

people says it's too old

but im using g305 and it's fine for me

so 20 for that isn't bad tbh

[gusty willow]

For 20 not a bad pickup for a backup

[torpid night]

I'd rather use my Asus Gladius as my backup. I used to main it until I got my Razer Basilisk. So now the Gladius is my backup

I also have a wireless one that’s super nice for traveling (I use it for work)

[pallid geyser]

Dang $330 for 7900x3d

[high radish]

Grabbed one of 7900x3d . thanks

It's not my taste actually but it's decent

[jolly inlet]

Be prepared to do some tinkering on some games to stop the stuttering

[high radish]

I will build it and sell to overseas anyways even tho nobody wants AMD I think I can find someone for x3d

[quasi pasture]

well here it is

I am gamer now

@stoic crest

[daring depot]

what mouse is that again?

oh Prime +

[shut lava]

I see people still are against upgrading to a X3D CPU on AM4 vs buying an entirely new AM5 CPU, motherboard, and RAM when it comes to CPU deals.

[stoic crest]

It's kinda a difficult thing to recc

[shut lava]

Many people don't want to go through the hassle of selling their motherboard, CPU, and RAM to cover a part of the expenses of an upgrade and would rather pop in a $230 CPU.

[stoic crest]

problem is that it matches the lowest cpu in AM5 lineup

in performace especially

[raw inlet]

Is this any good for €300? I'm mostly interested in the motherboard since it also support 5000 series

I could ask for €250

I've also found a different deal but I'd like to know if the mb is decent and 5000 series compatible.

• AsRock A320M itx

• R5 2600
• 2*8GB HyperX Predator 3000c15
• wraith stealth cooler

[thin bolt]

https://www.mercari.com/u/462532270?sv=0
This guy is selling 2 3600 builds if you wanna check those out @raw inlet

[raw inlet]

Unfortunately, I'm not in the US, however those builds look really good and price seems fair enough

[thin bolt]

I wanna snag that pink one

[shut lava]

I don't see that as a problem. It extends the life of their current system for several years.

[fair moon]

I'm kinda with bavor on this one as well. If you already have an am4 system the 5700x3d (or 5600x3d if you can find one) are excellent drop ins without buying a new motherboard and ram

At $230 the 5700x3d is only $30 more than a 7600

For a new/fresh build I'll reccomend am5 for sure (assuming budget allows)

[shut lava]

I was also hesitant to buy first gen AM5 because I saw how big the improvements were with AM4 in each new release and how newer socket AM4 CPUs required faster RAM for their advertised performance.

You buy a 7600 and required motherboard and RAM now and how much are you saving if you plan to upgrade in a few years when you will need new RAM and a new CPU vs staying on AM4 for a few more years with a 5700X3D and upgrading a few years later.

If you are upgrading to AM5 and trying to do it for low costs(7600 + A520/B550 low priced motherboard), what are the chances that you even have a GPU that will see any difference in performance between a 5700X3D and a 7600 or that your CPU is what's holding you back? Are RTX 4090 and R5 7600 CPU builds really that common?

[stoic crest]

The same can be said once you hopped onto AM5

But if you're already on AM4 I can see the point

Although fair warning

If you have air cooling with lesser AM4 cpus

You might wanna invest into an aio to keep those AM4 X3D chips cool

Or a better cooler

But then again thermalright has an aio for $50

5600X3D is just too odd of a cpu for me to recc tho

Only get the ryzen 7's

[shut lava]

I'm nto sure if you really need an AIO with a 5700X3D/5800X3D With a low profile 120mm cooler my 5800X3D doesn't get hot even in long benchmarks. I enabled PBO an curve optimizer at -30 all cores and raised the power limits in the BIOS. I'm using this cooler because I got it for free and fits the mini ITX case. 10 minutes of CB24 or running y-cruncher 10b, which takes a little over 8 minutes, the CPU hits 75-77C https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BZGZ4S1S/

Under gaming the CPU runs cooler than that.

[fair moon]

Iirc the 5800x3d temps can be drastically lowered with a PBO tune

[stoic crest]

Ah, that's nice then

[cinder kiln]

5800X3D I go back and forth on

It is definitely better with an aio, but like it's am5 brethren is definitely usable on a small scale cooler

7800x3d is easily capped out on one though, even some of the 90mm options like the axp90 copper

Though with the whole AM4 vs. AM5 thing...you could really go either way

You can extend the life of your old platform more, which is nice

But similarly you can extend the new platform as well, the offset comes in reselling

Cos all the same you can drop in a new AM5 cpu later, just like you could do with AM4 right now

But the upshot is reselling AM4 sooner you'll get more return, whereas a baseline investment for new hardware will always exist

If that makes sense

Both sides are good ideas, I lean a bit more towards AM5 now though, especially since the platform has already matured really well in it's first generation

[jolly inlet]

Boy I'd love to buy a Quest 2 but I sort of deleted my Facebook account. Maybe I could make a fake one just for gaming.

[cinder kiln]

That's exactly what I did

[fair moon]

Just don't buy anything on the Quest store and that's a pretty safe bet

[thin bolt]

That 4090 build is still in stock? Jesus

[cinder kiln]

Practically begging you to buy it

[thin bolt]

I’m SO POOR

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-16348084597044947976

[civic sun]

Now it requires a meta account instead of facebook

[cinder kiln]

Ya I was trying to remember if that was a thing

I remember deactivating my fb account

[thin bolt]

@cinder kiln can I borrow about $2670
To get the pc and Taco Bell

[cinder kiln]

I charge 100% interest after 5 days

[thin bolt]

Uh

What if I uh

[cinder kiln]

[thin bolt]

Give you some Taco Bell too

?

[cinder kiln]

80% after 24 hours

[thin bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/tough-fair-soue-gif-14430740

[cinder kiln]

I'll love you for taco bell

Until 24 hours later

[cinder kiln]

When I'm reminded of the atrocities taco bell commits to colons

[thin bolt]

Me when you talk about Taco Bell with me

[cinder kiln]

Real

[thin bolt]

[opal flume]

This seems to be the trope but I've never experienced it

[cinder kiln]

Me until I turned about 24

Lol

[opal flume]

I am 23

[cinder kiln]

Soon the bell toles for taco

[opal flume]

Then again I was taco boi my entire life. Any time it was taco I'd eat

Eat a lot of them too

I favored soft taco because it'd be quicker to taco time

[thin bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/cliff-burton-metallica-burton-metallicacliffburton-gif-11569608

[tawdry dragon]

I'm having extreme buyer's remorse right now

all of these monitor deals are insane

I know my pc can't run 1440p 240hz, but cmooon

[jolly inlet]

There will always be a better deal that pops up. Things go down in price as they age and new models come out. I'd just be happy with what I got and not be worried that I spent nearly $300 on a 1440p 165Hz when there's $250 240Hz ones now... Just an example.

[tawdry dragon]

I got a 32" 1440p 144hz BAD panel for $220 just a few months ago

[quasi pasture]

speaking of tech deals

I just got Linsoul blon 03's with a pelican 1010 case for 15 bucks

[high radish]

2k 260hz for 230$

[cinder kiln]

Source: https://youtube.com/shorts/2LEk0ihEyJI?si=ktGfD6L7qUtSA581

[azure pond]

Lol I read half your post and then went to Walmarts website to see what's available, didn't see any and came back to mention it and read the rest of it

[cinder kiln]

Lol

Yeah I checked beforehand but it seems to be store only

One could guess the discount section but idk

I've never shopped in a walmart

There were a lot of posts about it tho in the vid so it seems credible

[proud notch]

I got screwed over by Amazon boldface lying to me two separate times on the monitor that I purchased. It's still a great monitor, but for $240 more than it was supposed to be, I'm not exactly the most happy

Especially because it unfortunately has a panel defect, and I'm going to have to go through a whole RMA process with it. I just haven't brought myself to start it yet

It's BS that they can straight up lie to you, and then you can have a manager at Amazon verbatim say "We are not responsible for what our representatives tell customers"

But either way, it's a phenomenal panel, I really like it. It's better than the one that I had before for like 20 bucks less, so it's still a win at least

@lavish willow gonna have to RMA the panel, not sure if I told you. Considering just waiting to do a full warranty claim later down the line

[lavish willow]

No you didn't. That's unfortunate

Hope it's fast

Since you need it for work I presume

[cinder kiln]

Cop out, if they work as an employee then they are representative of the company itself

They can cast themselves off from blame but only if they make amends to fix the situation

In australia that would immediately get massacred by the AAAC

No leg to stand on there

[proud notch]

I went through a whole ordeal with something exactly like that, where I had one of the Amazon representatives coarse me into not returning a product by promising me a price match on it after they dropped the ball several times. I got the item, it went out of stock permanently, and then I was told that I would not receive the price match. I fought for over a week to get the price match, got somebody who told me that they do the price match, only to be told again that they wouldn't

[cinder kiln]

Sounds like policy conflict

This is why I save transcripts

[proud notch]

Oh I have the transcripts, they just told me that they're not valid

[cinder kiln]

That's wrong. They can't at that point

You have a log

[proud notch]

I have two phone recordings that they confirmed that they can access, as well as several messages still in the history of my chat, and yet they're still telling me that they do not offer price matches

I got all the way up to a Manager of accounting, of whom was the single rudest person I've ever dealt with at a company, who belittled me and hung up on me in the middle of asking me a question

[cinder kiln]

The problem with them saying this is it's invalid after the monetary exchange occurs

You consulted them on the account of return under the guidance that you'd get a price match

You follow through, they don't deliver under that typed agreement

That's plain wrong

[proud notch]

Yeah so what happened was I bought this panel, it took 41 days to ship, at which point they then told me that my payment failed. It got delayed for another 5 days, it arrived at my house but they did not inform me that I needed to be present to sign for it, so then it got delayed by another 2 days

When I renewed my payment to confirm my order on the monitor, it was selling on that exact same day from the same listing for 240 some dollars less. I said that I would just cancel the order that I had, and purchase it at that lower price as to save money

The customer service person who was helping me told me that I could continue to purchase the one that I got, and they would retroactively give me a price match due to the inconvenience of them dropping the ball so many times

[cinder kiln]

Once a merchant transaction takes place, it's considered in many areas binding

[cinder kiln]

Makes no sense

Just cancel the order and buy it again

[proud notch]

I can't, they don't sell it anymore, and it's been past the return window

[cinder kiln]

But they accepted the return??

[proud notch]

They told me that it would take 3 to 4 weeks for the refund to be processed, at which point the return window was already closed. I called the follow up and they told me that they had canceled it because they don't do that

I then called six separate times, one of which got me all the way up to the manager of accounting who was exceptionally rude to me

Then I called two more times a day later and found a woman who was super sweet and assured me that they do in fact do that and that she would honor it. She set up the whole thing, told me that it would be done in about a week, and sure is crap It got canceled as well. I contacted them and they said that she lied to me as well that Amazon does not offer that

[proud notch]

I never started a return process, I never needed to

They screwed up the delivery on the monitor. I ended up having to redo my payment 41 days after I purchased it. On that day that I redid my payment, the item was $200 and some dollars less. Instead of me canceling it and them having to deal with the whole cancel on the order since it was already shipped, they promised me that they would just give me the money back later. And then they lied

[cinder kiln]

Ok so they absolutely owe you the difference

[proud notch]

Yeah, they for sure do, but it's Amazon so they're just going to keep wying their asses off until I get tired

I've already been having a horrible time as it is, and I just don't have the energy to deal with them at the moment

[cinder kiln]

Small claims would probably weigh that in your favour

[proud notch]

I was thinking about that as well

[cinder kiln]

Since you can just "cancel and order it again cheaper"

[proud notch]

I threatened to take PayPal to small claims court over an even worse situation with them

[proud notch]

I couldn't even if I wanted to. They don't sell the item anymore, it's not available at all on Amazon

Which does really suck

[cinder kiln]

They don't need to

They can refund you as they said they would

Hell you could make a claim with paypal if you used paypal for it

Paypal would fight this if you have the transcript that proves you were told you'd get a refund

[proud notch]

When I'm in a little bit of a better headspace, I'll tear ass after them. I fought PayPal endlessly for 3 months after they tried to blatantly scam me, and my efforts resulted in me getting what they owed me back

That whole PayPal situation was the most nightmarish interaction with a company I've ever had, or ever heard of

[cinder kiln]

Can't say I relate, paypal has been my best friend for most of my shopping lol

[proud notch]

TLDR, I bought a used 390, the guy tried to scam me by sending me a faulty GPU, he lied and denied it for weeks until I called him out about it, he admitted to it.

Wii contacted PayPal, and we both mutually agreed to do an exchange where I would send the GPU back, and upon delivery notice I would get the money back

Well, I sent the GPU back, he confirmed that he got it, and PayPal told me that they were not going to give me my money.

It took me over 40 hours worth of contacting them through emails, phones, and messages in order to get them to give me my damn money back

I had multiple written accounts of him saying that he purposely sold me a faulty GPU to try and scam me, and they ruled in my favor for separate times, closing the case five separate times for no reason

[cinder kiln]

If that were me I would've asked the condition of refund to be sent after tracking and evidence it was in the box sent

After delivery, people can just disappear

[proud notch]

That's exactly what I did. It was literally a PayPal sanctioned intermediary refund

[cinder kiln]

But prior to that you can cancel if they try to run you off

[proud notch]

I showed pictures of the item in its packaging, the label that I sent, and the tracking number. They would confirm that it was on its way, and they were to refund me

[cinder kiln]

That sounds terrible then

Normally paypal in my experience is a lot better

I've had a lot of claims with them

[proud notch]

They started the refund process, said it would take about a week. In that week, I got a notice saying that they ruled out of my favor now, and that they would not be giving me the refund. No information on why

I reopen the ticket, get them to rule in my favor again, 3 days later they close it again saying that they ruled not in my favor

This happened two more times of the course of 3 months. At which point he had already long had the GPU back in his possession

[cinder kiln]

Seems like he may have been sending something to tip the favour?

[proud notch]

I kept contacting them relentlessly, and then one day I threatened legal action after I got a recording of one of their higher upss stating "If what you're saying is true and we really have ruled in your favor so many times, then all of this effort would have been for nothing and we would have been in the wrong'

At which point I said, congratulations, you just admitted that I should be compensated for spending All of this time arguing with you that I should get my refund. If you do not give me my refund, I will sue PayPal for damages, emotional distress, and loss of pay due to the fact that I was not able to land my job for not having this graphics card

I had the refund within 4 hours

[cinder kiln]

Well said

[proud notch]

So the thing that they kept on saying was that my tracking number was invalid

They kept saying that the UPS number did not exist and that they couldn't tell that it had arrived, even though I had two confirmations beforehand that it had arrived and that they were processing the refund

I then had seven different text confirmations with representatives telling me that they could very well see that it was delivered and signed for

[cinder kiln]

Odd

[proud notch]

The person I railroaded into the refund actually also admitted on the phone that they could see that the item was delivered the entire time, and that there shouldn't not have been any confusion as to its delivery, especially since I had been told so many times

Yeah, her and I got into a really heated argument, at which point she just started spewing out stupid crap and got her and PayPal in a lot of hot water lol

She was super condescending and rude, and the way that she worded things was in several different layers and admission of guilt, and also stating what it would mean if what I said was true, of which what I said was true lnao

[cinder kiln]

Well, if she admitted she had an error on her end it may have been a genuine mistake

But still, you got the money in the end

[proud notch]

No trust me, it was not that lmfao

She was extremely rude. We had spoken four separate times across 2 weeks

She got me in touch with a higher up, at which point the higher up listen to our conversation on call, heard her admit that if what I was saying was true was their fault, and various other things. That super high up person then issued me a personal refund

The way that he said it, PayPal was not able to withdraw the money that the guy who scammed me had gotten from the transaction, but they would instead pay out of pocket to correct the damages

[cinder kiln]

Yes

That would be correct

They have insurances or a budget for those sorts of things

If the refund is too big they would seek out the seller again

[proud notch]

Yeah, she had been trying to peacock herself about how nothing would happen unless she said so, and she got really damn quiet when we got to the person higher than her. He didn't even really let her speak. We were on call for about 15 minutes, at which point he was stating all the separate times that they had confirmed that it had been returned, all the separate times that they had confirmed that it had been ruled in my favor, and all the separate times that they had dropped with the ball and made it worse for them lmfao

[cinder kiln]

Well anyway, we're digressing a bit

[proud notch]

But yeah, I did actually miss out on a huge job opportunity for not having that GPU in time. But hey, I got my money back in the end

[cinder kiln]

I would consider it sooner rather than later if you have a middleman service to file a claim

[proud notch]

It was actually even worse because it wasn't my money, it was the money that I had borrowed from my mother to float me until my first paycheck at my new job, of which I was not able to land because of the issues

[cinder kiln]

Or speak to your bank as well

Banks will probably have good advice for something like this

They deal with fraud daily after all

[proud notch]

That's a very good idea, I'll have to reach out to mine credit Union

[cinder kiln]

I'm not saying amazon are frauds

[proud notch]

I'm not saying they are either, I've had plenty of great interactions with them

[cinder kiln]

But the conditions of your payment, could be considered fradulent

Since you accepted the purchase under an agreed price which wasn't completely fulfilled

[proud notch]

Oh definitely. I was coerced into doing something that benefited the company strictly with the promise of compensation, only to then be out what I agreed to and worse off than if I had not

[cinder kiln]

That's exactly it

[proud notch]

It's a $1,000 monitor, so $240 off is a nice little chunk lmao

[cinder kiln]

And if it says it anywhere in that transcript you offered to cancel the purchase and buy again at the lower price, there's a lot of favourable evidence

Since they told you you'd receive a refund instead

i.e a condition of purchase

[proud notch]

Yeup

[cinder kiln]

These are the sort of things consumer commissions love working for

But the sooner you get onto it, the better

[proud notch]

Thanks for reigniting my fire. I've been really down and low energy as of late, but hearing that I'm not the only one who sees it this way is validating my feelings lmao

[cinder kiln]

I've had some nasty online run-ins before myself so

Well and truly been through it lol

Even irl

Like how my VW dealer believed charging me double for a job was a good idea

2.3K to replace a vent motor

Tiny little pc fan motor basically

Go down the road to a mechanic

[proud notch]

Jesus

[cinder kiln]

1100

And he explained he needed 10 hours to get the dash off

Much better

[proud notch]

Yeah that is much better

[cinder kiln]

Bit of advice btw

My experience with Razer taught me this

Never trust on word alone and wait things out

[proud notch]

The PayPal GPU fraud situation wasn't that much money, but it was money that wasn't mine that was loaned to me until I got a job, of which I completely lost the opportunity on due to them dropping the ball, so I was absolutely livid

[cinder kiln]

If you were calling every couple days after you bought the monitor about the refund, things would've played out very differently

I played nice with razer, they broke my phone and charged me for a new one

And I was out of a phone for 8 weeks

8 weeks

After 2 I was calling them every day

6 they send me an email back, "The phone is broken, we can send it back or you can pay the bill for a repaired refurbished one"

No warning

Just

Broken

I sent it to them since the usb C port was playing up

They didn't even make it into the damn phone

The screen was just smashed

[proud notch]

Wow

[cinder kiln]

If you're ever curious sometime, louis Rossman has a huge number of videos about repair scandals that happen regularly

[proud notch]

Oh yeah, I watch his content

[cinder kiln]

I was naive at the time but I'd never let that happen now

Luckily the bill was small

[proud notch]

When I was returning that GPU, I was so worried that they were going to try to screw me over that I recorded a 19 minute video of me installing the GPU, showing the issues with it, uninstalling the GPU, carefully rack being it up with every single thing that was included, putting it in the box that I marked with numbers to make sure they couldn't think that it was a different box, showed myself slapping the label on, closing it, and handing it to the UPS worker lmao

[cinder kiln]

I do this too

No you are right to do that

I film full boxing videos and test runs

[proud notch]

I had a whole nother situation recently where Samsung screwed me over on my phone. Samsung had been the best company I had ever dealt with up until that point, but they genuinely screwed me over

[cinder kiln]

I send pics with way labels

I do all of this

[cinder kiln]

Samsung genuinely has issues with their warranty segment

I've leaned away from most of samsung now, save for a couple items (their phone trade in program is nice though)

Not a lot of good left with them

Especially after the tv and ssd scandals

[proud notch]

Long story short, the whole punch on my phone camera is known to go bad and kill the entire display. It disproportionately affects the people who got the S22 Ultra pre-order phone, like myself

I get into contact with them, they say that it's a known defect and that they would gladly replace the screen on my phone for free

I contact them on my Samsung account so they can see which phone I have, and the date that I purchased it on. We get ready to schedule my appointment for them to return it, only to find out that they only offer that display fix if your phone isn't one year old. At which point my phone was 1.6 years old, because it was a pre-order...

They then backtracked on everything that they said, told me that they would not be able to fix the display, and then spent I kid you not, 25 minutes trying to upsell me to buy the s24 Ultra

[cinder kiln]

Lmfao

Ok question

Was there a recall

[proud notch]

It was not a recall, but it was a program that they were honoring. If you go on the Samsung subreddit, you'll find various people with Note 10s, Note 20s, s21s, s22s, and s23s with the exact same issue. Almost every single one of them has a Samsung mod in the comments stating to get in contact with them and that they will repair the screen on the phone. That's actually how I got into contact with them

They apologize profusely for the issue, said that they later lowered the chances of it happening on the non-pre-release phones, and even thanked me for being Samsung loyal for almost a decade. And then they told me that they couldn't do anything ._.

They told me that the screen replacement would be $480

[cinder kiln]

Ok, so, if it's not an official recall notice issued, then I believe something like that does fall under warranty

If the phone warranty is a year...it sucks but unlike the amazon scenario, it's not really in the buyer's favour

In the amazon situation you paid on condition, whereas with samsung, it's more of a good faith situation

Brands aren't required to give more than a warranty based on the type of item, for most electronics that can range from 3 months to a year

[proud notch]

You know, the more that we talk about all this, the more I realize how much companies have taken advantage of me lol

[cinder kiln]

Yeah it happens a lot

Electronics is rife with bad practice

[proud notch]

I got screwed over on the purchase of this phone as well. I did the trade-in through Verizon cuz I was brand new customer, they sent me the box to send my phone in, my dad died literally in the middle of the return window. I got in contact with them, they said that they would extend the promotion so I could deal with my father's passing, and then they told me that They never said such thing, and they screwed me out of an $1,150 trade-in...

[cinder kiln]

I've had screaming matches at stores over products I've been told work with what I need them to do and they don't work at all

This is why consumer commissions exist

They protect buyers from wrongdoing

Idk what the american one would be but you can often seek advice from them and consulting

Over here in Australia they're called ombudsman

[proud notch]

I just still can't believe they lied to a kid whose father had just died. The trade-in value on my phone dropped from $1,150 to $91

[cinder kiln]

That is absolutely a claim in your favour holy crap

Stress damages is almost worthy for that one

[proud notch]

Yeah, I fought it for about a week, and they told me that they extended the trade-in window, but they did not extend the offer on the trade-in. They thought I wanted to extend the window of which I could trade in my device at its normal cost, not the elevated trade-in value. Which is not at all what they said, and they know it

So yeah, I was freshly 18 years old, my father had passed away literally a week prior, I had no job because of severe medical issues, and a phone that I had purchased for what I thought was $230 now cost me $1,380

It was one hell of a time. In fact, I still have not paid the phone off

[cinder kiln]

I think you need to sit down and have a look at some of these things lol

[proud notch]

Yeahhhh ._.

That's all four times That companies have taken advantage of me., other than that I've been good I guess?

[cinder kiln]

In this one convo we've highlighted a possible 1140$ outstanding

[proud notch]

Amazon has moved mountains for me before lmao

[cinder kiln]

That's a lot of money

I would seek out professional advice and go from there

To me it sounds like there's a good chance of a case there

But I'm not a lawyer, nor an ombudsman

So I would speak to a professional as well about it

Not saying hire a lawyer for small claims tho

Not worth

Lol

[proud notch]

@cinder kiln I do want to say really quick, thank you for having a conversation with me. I appreciate it a lot. I've been going through it for a very long time, and it's been a moment since I've actually had a solid conversation. It's nice to actually be conversed with, rather than having somebody mock what I'm trying to say and telling me that I'm yapping

[cinder kiln]

But consulting would do a lot

I don't mind

[shut lava]

I checked my local walmart. They had a spot on the shelf with the markdown price and it was empty. None of them in the clearance section. #tech-deals message

[cinder kiln]

You know I'm strong minded but only with the intent of giving my best advice

[cinder kiln]

So it was there?

[proud notch]

I appreciate it, and I'll definitely have to take a look into the services when I'm in a little bit better of a mental state. And I'd also love to share any info that I find with other people who may have similar issues

[shut lava]

None in stock, sold out, but it was there previously.

[cinder kiln]

Damn, so it checks out then

Appreciate you checking

[proud notch]

Oh, by the way, side note

The Arctic p12 Max's are absolutely leaf blowers, and if you're not running a server, you do not need them lmao

[cinder kiln]

I just ordered a bunch lol

[proud notch]

I made that mistake. Just two of the fans together has my PC at 68 decibels 5 ft away...

They are so loud, they actually sound like an air raid siren

[cinder kiln]

I've heard they can be nasty loud in some situations, but my vanilla p12s aren't strong enough for my loop

[proud notch]

I did talk to one of my friends, and he suggested that they are super loud because they are mounted directly against mesh. I just can't imagine them being that loud normally

They are high static pressure fans, so they're meant to be mounted on radiators for the most part

But man, these fans are just way too damn over to kill for what I need lmao

[cinder kiln]

Yeah he's pretty much spot on

[proud notch]

Little video I recorded today. This was actually the video that I recorded for said friend to hear how loud my 3090 is compared to these fans lmao

The 3090 is super quiet for reference. My phone is just on the case right above it

The other fan on the other side of my case

[cinder kiln]

Lol

[proud notch]

He suggested I put balls over it too diffuse the airflow. He said that it helped on his mesh case

It did indeed not help on mine lmao

[cinder kiln]

I mean you can also just keep it under

I believe it's

2000 rpm?

[proud notch]

3400 🙃

[cinder kiln]

And it stays below that increased decibel range

[proud notch]

They get quite loud even at just 1500

[cinder kiln]

Nah 3400 is like max lol

[proud notch]

Oh, keep it below 2000, I read your message wrong

Yeah, the max is 3400

[cinder kiln]

2000rpm is supposed to be the same as 1750rpm (max) on p12

[proud notch]

I really hope that it's just the fact that they're mounted on mesh

[cinder kiln]

Which is mild in noise

Probably

They're very strong even at low rpm tho

You probably don't need them cranked

Just nice to have if the cpu needs it lol

[proud notch]

I'm honestly just going to return them for the normal 12s and save a bit of money

Oh my CPU is chilling. My CPU is like 70c max at 150 Watts

I don't even use my CPU that much

[cinder kiln]

I can make a different suggestion

[proud notch]

It's my GPUs that are absolutely suffering

[cinder kiln]

TL-B12 is good

TL-B12 can also be a bit loud if mounted in certain interference at high speed

But apart from that

They're noctuas

For $11

And yes they're sold by thermalright

I would say a fair bit better than p12, not better than p12 for performance/$ though

I'm purely getting them as my niche situation requires them

My loop has a heat soak issue

If I use it for more than a few hours at high loads I get temperature rising well into double digits

Cpu starts getting concerningly hot lol

When I initially built it I didn't do long session heat testing as it didn't seem to be an issue

But a change in temp delta of almost 20C is a big deal

So moving up from p12 vanilla, going to max

Hoping I can push more fresh air through to fix the latent soaking

I got a ton of radiator so it's not my heat capacity

Also looking at changing to a stronger pump as well

It's annoying if I'm doing work on the pc for like 6 hours and I'm ranging from 300W to 600+W frequently and I'm just watching the temps rise from 70's up to the 90's

Lol

[shut lava]

My loop has a heat soak issue, but only when I run stress tests. Apparently running two overclocked 3090s with the 1000W BIOS and the Port Royal stress test puts 1500-1600 watts into the loop. Coolant temps hit 40C+ and the GPU temps get above 45C. I run dual D5s and three 360mm rads.

[thin bolt]

words

[cinder kiln]

Ye my GPU isn't really having any issues

The XTX sits happily well under even the stock cooler temps (nitro+) at some 37-47C idle @ 90W, then climbs to 70's under soak and load (430-ish, 550w peak)

It did have paste drying issues on I think it was 2 or 3 times before I swapped to ptm

But the last time before I swapped there wasn't any dry out

If I wanted to evc mod that card I have to fix the heat soak problem lol

So first things first is 7 p12 max fans

[proud notch]

Sorry, I'm back. I could give a look

I need 2 120mm fans and 2 140

[tawdry dragon]

I actually have 7 p12 max fans rn

[pallid geyser]

My Walmart doesn’t even sell SSDs

[tawdry dragon]

same here

[tiny heron]

Mine only carries external

[trim pier]

@azure pond how good is it

I'm getting it rn

[azure pond]

For $80, fantastic

How good it actually is I've no idea

[quasi pasture]

who was trying to mine on 970s 💀

[cinder kiln]

There was a $729 7900XTX deal that I missed but I caught some current ones that are still quite good

For the same price sure

Sure

At your discretion if you want to do that, go ahead lol

[quasi pasture]

low effort ah trolling

🤡

develop these nuts

[cinder kiln]

Did it come with a signed picture of Jensen's buttcheek

Then I don't care

Miss me with that lah 60 card

[grand orbit]

Nah it comes with a signed pic of your mom

[cinder kiln]

Wow that changes everything

[balmy lake]

I dunno about everywhere but locally, they are “remodeling” walmarts. And to avoid having to move a bunch of stuff around, they are putting things on clearance. IE day before yesterday i stopped at one currently in process and they had soundbars on clearance. I bought LG SQC-2 for $65. Online it still shows $179. So i today, I stopped at the one closest to my house to see about SSD’s. Because it is supposed to start the remodel this month. There’s already signs, jewelry dept rellocated, half the floor space in mens has opened up, etc. No great deals yet, but im gonna jeep an eye on it. But, they do carry SSD’s!

[daring depot]

Dang

I wish there was a Walmart near me

They still have this stuff online?

[tawdry dragon]

I wish there was a microcenter near me

[mortal blaze]

its good deal RYZEN 9 7900X3D for 330?

[azure pond]

Yes

[fair moon]

I believe it's in-store only

[trim pier]

Does anyone know how good the monitor is?

It’s a birthday gift for my brother cause he doesn’t wanna be a TV xbox gamer anymore 🤓

Cause I may or may not just replace it with my old monitor lol

[quasi pasture]

Thats cool and all but who wants to buy a pokemon card off me for 175 bucks

[trim pier]

Which one brotha

Better be the gojo one

[quasi pasture]

The gojo one

[thin bolt]

vip gang @fair moon

[fair moon]

congrats

[pallid geyser]

@void lance thanks

[azure pond]

W

[pulsar fable]

Checked my Walmart. Unfortunately others got here before me

[thin bolt]

F

[trim pier]

Is there any other deals at microcenter rn ?

[trim pier]

@azure pond

22 minute wait to see if this puppy will work

Considering it looks like somebody threw it onto a dusty wooden pallet and kicked it

[high radish]

Thats pretty regular for monitors lol . I usually getting that dirty and kicked monitos from walmart as well

Monitors deserve better treating

[trim pier]

The dude was gonna charge us 40$

To just see if it had dead pixels

I told him dude I just bought it and I wanted to only plug it in if it even powered up

I didn’t pay thank god but when we opened it the amount of dog hair on it 💀

[high radish]

Idk why dead pixel is that common . is it that hard to proper test panel before ship ?

[trim pier]

Well

I don’t think the website states anything about them checking it

They just go based off probably the returns people brought it in at other microcenter stores lol

“Any damage?” “Nope it’s like brand new” but there could be this huge slash on it

[high radish]

I saw tons of monitors with dead pixel already. Idk why companies can't fix that already

[trim pier]

Ya they wouldn’t let us plug it in to any pc

They were busy dealing with some dudes air cooler falling off the cpu and he just let it sit on his gpu 💀

I think they charge 60$ for that too

Nothing at my Walmart

[trim pier]

Nothing at my Walmart

[pallid geyser]

Nothing at his Walmart

[quasi pasture]

Nothing at his Walmart

[thin bolt]

Nothing at their Walmart

[torpid night]

Nothing at his Walmart

[cinder kiln]

Nothing at they Walmart

[daring depot]

Nothin at they Walmart

[jolly inlet]

Because it's near impossible for the panels to have tens of millions of pixels and have every one be perfect

[trim pier]

BOOOO YOU RUINED IT

but the signalwas so bad there

looks like it double sent

anyways the monitor which ty @azure pond for posting I plan on checking it tonight for any weird stuff ig cause it's full of dog hair and refrub..

would make a wonderful 2nd monitor if I had space

[high radish]

Ofc but they can make easy way to test them it's not worth to ship bad panels we buy it and return it anyways

[tawdry dragon]

@azure pond that's just a regular 4080 as far as I can see

still a good deal nonetheless though

[azure pond]

Yep mb

Thanks

[tawdry dragon]

yeah np

[plain cosmos]

should i return my asus 1440p 27 inch ips monitor i found 6 red pixels and 30 white pixels but there very small i have to get up close to see them i still have the warrenty i only see them when the screen is black ? should i return

[tawdry dragon]

use the warrantee for sure

[trim pier]

which model & how much did you pay for it? Is it still returnable or do you have it under warranty? (or both)

[azure pond]

What skyveha said

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p8zXsY/acer-nitro-xv1-xv271u-m3bmiiprx-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-umhx1aa301

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vyqrxr/dell-g2724d-270-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-g2724d

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RktLrH/msi-g272qpf-e2-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-g272qpf-e2

[thin bolt]

https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331618?Item=N82E16820331618&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-331-618-_-05052024

$48 32GB of ram
Sound like a deal?

[cinder kiln]

Kinda a deal

Nice that it's lower tho

[tawdry dragon]

kinda weird that there are no 1440p 240hz ultrawides for a decent price

this would probably be my endgame monitor if I actually had a gpu that could run it https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CDVFZ791

[stoic crest]

Cuz it's a niche

[tawdry dragon]

I mean ig

but I feel like a lot of people would buy them if they were readily available

only somewhat large ultrawides that aren't the crazy 49" ones are really expensive

[high radish]

Still waiting for 4k oled ultrawide

[fair moon]

1440p UW is also quite demanding to game on

[tawdry dragon]

yeah true, that's why I'm not upgrading my monitor as of now. I have a 3070 and it can barely push out 1440p 120hz on most games

even then I have to turn the settings down

[fair moon]

I'm pretty happy with my 3060ti at 1440p rn

I get good fps in games where it matters (CS, apex, siege)

And in more demanding games I can usually push 60-80fps

Sometimes need dlss quality but at 1440p that looks alright

[tawdry dragon]

This a deal?https://a.co/d/5PEluNK

The specs are very impressive for the price, but idk about the quality

It is a va panel though

[torpid night]

You clearly didn’t read enough

[tawdry dragon]

sorry?

[azure pond]

looks good

[torpid night]

says VA right there in the description 💀

Not a bad price though tbh

It's just because it's an offbrand monitor

[azure pond]

mini led va isnt bad

[cinder kiln]

Mini led is often va

Like qled

VA is not an automatic bad, not like it used to be

[fair moon]

fwiw one of their 1080p ips panels is apparently very good for the price. Not sure if that extends to their other panels though

[stoic crest]

https://www.ign.com/articles/best-gaming-pc-deals-2024-lenovo-legion-tower-5-gen-8-geforce-rtx-4070-super-gpu

This is fine? I guess

No 32gb ram is what's making me hesitate

7700+4070s

[azure pond]

thats alr

there was 7900+4070 ti refurb for 1200 on their refurb store on ebay

not anywhere near consistently in stock though

[azure pond]

@cinder kiln

Look at that xtx

Nvm :(

[quasi pasture]

bought this for 30 dollars

[jolly inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-this-is-garbage-you-actually-like-this-gru-margo-gif-16561237

[quasi pasture]

Oh just wait till you see what I'm about to post

https://www.ebay.com/itm/296408249597

Also you can't tell me you wouldn't buy an x299 board for 30 bucks 😩

[jolly inlet]

At least that drive still has practical purpose, but with them being 10 years old I wouldn't expect it to last long. That's the anticipated lifespan of the magnets.

[quasi pasture]

Yea I'm not touching that drive

[tiny dirge]

@azure pond dealmaster you madman

[light holly]

X299 board at a thrift store about 2 hours away. Still in package. Looks like it's never been used.

[jolly inlet]

And quite probably never will be

[light holly]

I guess it depends on if far wants it lol

[quasi pasture]

For how much

And what model is it

[thin bolt]

@azure pond if you ever find any deals on Lenovo Legion prebuilts, @ me

I wanna snag a decent one

[jolly inlet]

That's awfully specific

[thin bolt]

They seem to be decent build quality
I wanna see if I can’t retrofit one and upgrade it

[fair moon]

just build your own

[thin bolt]

I am
I just want one of those as a tinker-station/test bench

See what I can do with it like heavy OC and messing around in general

Without murdering my only system

[fair moon]

So build a second system for test bench instead of a prebuilt

[thin bolt]

I’ve never actually owned a prebuilt

[fair moon]

No reason to own one now

[thin bolt]

They’ll fall in prices

Aka why I want to find one with a deal

[fair moon]

Just wait for deals on normal PC parts and build

Or buy used

Prebuilt deals that beat building your own are once in a blue moon, and even then they barely beat building

[jolly inlet]

That's the kind of sale you get when they have a bunch of last gen stock they can't get rid of, like what happened with 11th gen

[cinder kiln]

Laptop gives better value imo

Instead of paying a worker $300 in labour, and it potentially showing up dead, you pay for a screen, keyboard and trackpad instead with mobility

They also often compete with diy pc's in value

Your catch 22 is the laptop fans

[jolly inlet]

Just put a blower fan over the intake and hope you don't overspin the internal fan

[cinder kiln]

Or just a stand yeah

I've had better success with a stand than a fan

That might just be only me tho

[jolly inlet]

If you wanna be a scrub that doesn't risk chopping your fingers off sure

15k rpm fan or nothing

Wire it directly to the power supply so it has enough amps

[thin bolt]

This