#tech-deals-discussion

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stoic crest
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the classic sony headphones i see in studios

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good for production because if it sounds good in it

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everyone else will love it

marsh sphinx
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$90

stoic crest
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I don't like those professional stuff anyway

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They sound flat af

marsh sphinx
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Razer headphones

stoic crest
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Razer sucks unless you get like blackshark non x

shut lava
marsh sphinx
marsh sphinx
fiery zephyr
stoic crest
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the x is oof

marsh sphinx
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I’ve had them for awhile

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Like a year or two now

shut lava
marsh sphinx
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Well I was more so asking what you think

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I kinda expected there not to be a set date

shut lava
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They are good, but only have Bluetooth. So if you use them with your PC< you need to either have Bluetooth on your PC or get a Bluetooth USB thingie.

cinder kiln
fiery zephyr
grand orbit
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Well actually if you look at their d15 mount mx5 jumps from the top ( looks like the ek aio wasn't tested with it for some reason)

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Bluetooth on windows is messy at best btw so they better come with a usb/3.5mm option too if you go for them

fiery zephyr
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50usd rn

brisk sphinx
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Buy it

cinder kiln
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That's nice

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Not worth it but nice if you just have to have an aio

torpid night
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why the downvotes? these are usually $100+

IMG_2303.png
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the HD 450BT also pretty much saved me from going insane during the pandemic (they’re basically the same but have a 3.5mm jack)

grand orbit
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Well one of the guys, watches that channel and basically downvotes everything so really it's 3/4 but probably because ppl don't know what they're usually like price wise n stuff

jolly inlet
brisk sphinx
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Nah, I just hated them when I tried them

grand orbit
marsh sphinx
grand orbit
marsh sphinx
prisma mortar
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i don't think i've personally ever seen any earbuds with usb wireless

grand orbit
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Ive seen a pair on short circuit recently

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv-2-kTtAc8&ab_channel=ShortCircuit

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but theyre expensive

cinder kiln
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Usb wireless would be nice

stoic crest
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usb wireless is hard to do tbh on earbuds

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the receiver needs to be mega small

kind rover
grand orbit
grand orbit
tawdry dragon
grand orbit
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for mx6 ye

kind rover
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Yeah we got mx6 now

tawdry dragon
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Doesn't seem to be much of a performance difference

grand orbit
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still not worth the premium over mx6

kind rover
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Mx 6 better than PK 3 nano?

grand orbit
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nope not much perf diff

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idk

stoic crest
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mx4 and mx6 are the available options

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mx5 had separation issues

grand orbit
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on some of them ye

kind rover
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I went with PK 3 nano lol

grand orbit
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too expensive for a tiny increase

marsh sphinx
# grand orbit theres also these which are a bit cheaper JBL Quantum TWS esports Gaming Earphon...

https://www.amazon.com/JBL-Quantum-Cancelling-Wireless-Bluetooth/dp/B09V9ZBGBB

JBL Quantum TWS Noise Cancelling Gaming Earbuds (2.4Ghz Wireless or...

Play anywhere and hear everything with JBL Quantum TWS. True Adaptive Noise Cancelling limits distractions as you immerse yourself in accurate surround sound. Or, if you need to jump back into the real world, JBL Dual Source lets you switch from game audio to incoming calls quickly and easily.

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?

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I mean if it ever goes on sale I'd like to get some

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I've really been wanting a pair for on the go to, so $100 seems reasonable for both mobile and desktop

grand orbit
flat junco
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Definite latency with gaming though if you're gonna use them for that, at least noticeable for me.

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I have the 1000xm3 earbuds and headphones. Earbuds have pretty poor battery life, like 2-3 hours.

daring depot
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I bought my boses 12 hours before the sale, AUGH

marsh sphinx
daring depot
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Online

marsh sphinx
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Either way you can cancel the order rather or return it rather easy

daring depot
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I didn't know how, it was costco

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I probably could have tbh

marsh sphinx
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Costco has an online store?

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Interesting

marsh sphinx
daring depot
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Oh yeah, 2 day delivery

stoic crest
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the inzone is 2.4ghz wireless btw

marsh sphinx
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Battery life isn't too much of a concern for me as long as it isn't like an hour or something

stoic crest
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i would suggest maybe looking into steelseries stuff

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mic detachable

marsh sphinx
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I might TBH

daring depot
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Gaming earbuds are a strange thing tho

stoic crest
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or retractable in arctis nova 3 wireless

daring depot
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Don't get wireless at least

marsh sphinx
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I just don't wanna drop over $100 on something I can't use on mobile and desktop

daring depot
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Hmm

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Steelseries does have USB c connectors I think

marsh sphinx
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My iPhone 8 is stupid and doesn't have a normal audio jack

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Or USB C

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Which I plan to change once I get a Samsung S20 FE

stoic crest
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ya steelseries uses usb c dongles

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i have to use an adapter to usb-a to use on my laptop lmao

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s20 fe supports usb audio so the dongle will work

marsh sphinx
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Yeah, but I'd just prefer wireless at that point

daring depot
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Those jbls are pretty cool actually, but they aren't gonna be good quality

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You're better off getting a normal pair of headphones then connecting it to PC via audio jack imo

stoic crest
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tbf using wireless i get no drop on sound quality

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but jbl and their heavy bass focus is bad

daring depot
marsh sphinx
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I'm trying to get away for Razer

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Their products are overpriced for their build quality

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Like I like the aesthetic of Razer products, but it's just too pricey for what it is

daring depot
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Yeah I feel ya

marsh sphinx
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A lot of my music includes that

stoic crest
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it's just blown out of proportion though

marsh sphinx
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As far as audio quality I'm not too picky

marsh sphinx
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NVM

stoic crest
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aka nothing but bass

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can't hear much of anything else

daring depot
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Steelseries is still one of the better options, but keep looking if you'd like

stoic crest
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barracuda x is a decent option

marsh sphinx
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Yeah yeah, I know that feeling with car speakers

marsh sphinx
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But eh

daring depot
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Hm? Wireless or wired?

marsh sphinx
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Wired

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My FiFine T669 just hasn't live up to what I wanted out of it or it's just Discord being stupid

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For $50 and how much I see people praise the HyperX Cloud II it seems fine

daring depot
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You said you were both using mobile and PC right?

marsh sphinx
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Yeah, that would be the issue

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If I got them I'd have no way to use them on mobile, and with an expensive adapter they'd still feel bulky

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That's kinda why I want some low profile headphones or earbuds

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Wireless preferably

grand orbit
daring depot
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Like I said, you're better off getting normal wired earbuds or wireless headphones with audio jack for pc

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It's gonna be hard meeting all those demands unfortunately, I think I tried before too

marsh sphinx
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Meh, latency I really don't have an issue with and audio quality doesn't have to amazing

daring depot
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The final choice will be yours we're just here for advice

marsh sphinx
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I think battery life and the ability to use them on mobile as well as desktop would be what matters most to me

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Obviously I don't wanna overpay so might be impossible to find something like that

stoic crest
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those gaming headsets with wireless all have wired mode

daring depot
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Oh btw, the quest 2 has an earbud set just for those demands

stoic crest
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use wired on phone, wireless on pc basically

daring depot
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Oh crap not Bluetooth

grand orbit
stoic crest
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^

marsh sphinx
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Just a tad bit pricey

stoic crest
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i have absolutely zero latency issues with 2.4ghz wireless

marsh sphinx
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But obviously if they last and I take good care of them I think they'll turn out well

daring depot
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No wait the ones I recommended have Bluetooth. My bad

stoic crest
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even with two different branded devices

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all using wireless at the same time

prisma mortar
stoic crest
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i believe barracuda x actually has 3 modes now for 2022 model

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bt, wireless and wired

daring depot
prisma mortar
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oh

daring depot
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Costco, there's always stuff on sale

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Actually I kinda want those quest earbuds now

stoic crest
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yep it has bt 5.2 and wireless

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but in sbc only for bt

marsh sphinx
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I wanna get away from Razer

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And if possible I'd like some lower profile headphones

stoic crest
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barracuda x is genuinely decent though

marsh sphinx
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I mean I don't doubt you, but like I want some earbuds I can just hide so my teachers don't get mad at me

stoic crest
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that's fair enough

marsh sphinx
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The wires on my earbuds RN were the big giveaway no matter how much I tried to hide them

daring depot
marsh sphinx
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If there's something similar to the Quantum TWS but a little cheaper I'd be down to drop the cash

marsh sphinx
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Are they only Bluetooth?

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Oh wait

daring depot
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No they ahvr a USB c plug too

marsh sphinx
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USB C dongle

daring depot
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They aren't the most comfy or best sounding, but they're a good bet

marsh sphinx
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Is Soundcore a reputable brand? I've seen a few people reccomend some headphones from them

daring depot
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Yeah they are, people love their headphones

marsh sphinx
stoic crest
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soundcore is anker

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they have quite a few decent headphones

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i can probably say that they're gonna be fine?

marsh sphinx
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Know of any people that do reviews on that type of stuff?

daring depot
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Yeah I'm not too sure how these are gonna be, haven't seen much of their earbuds

stoic crest
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Check rtings

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They review lots of stuff

daring depot
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Pcmag did a review

marsh sphinx
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What do they mean when they say weak lows and low mids?

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daring depot
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Equalizer settings

grand orbit
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sounds like it should be eq'able though

daring depot
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I'm pretty sure lows are the bass and mids are vocals

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Literally what gaming headphones are designed for

grand orbit
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afaik thats right yeah

daring depot
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I don't think the sound will be much of an issue

grand orbit
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it could be

stoic crest
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i love my arctis 1 fairly neutral stock sound

marsh sphinx
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For $80 I really can't complain

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It has about everything I could ask for

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Only wish they were in black

daring depot
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😂

stoic crest
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had to add some mids, highs and lots of sub bass for my liking tho

daring depot
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This company makes literally everything in black except these, anker

stoic crest
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the bass is enough

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but i love rumbling sub bass

prisma mortar
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and highs is 3k-20k or so

daring depot
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How far do 40khz reach? Some invisible treble?

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Sony goes that far and I'm curious

grand orbit
prisma mortar
marsh sphinx
grand orbit
# marsh sphinx Like which ones?

im no expert but maybe something like the moondrop CHU's or JIU for desktop and some wireless ones idk the meta maybe from one of these articles although the guys in #peripherals-and-displays could probalbly help a bit more
https://www.soundguys.com/best-wireless-earbuds-under-50-41388/
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/best/wireless-bluetooth-earbuds-under-50

SoundGuys
Best wireless earbuds under $50

You don't need to sacrifice quality for affordability. These are some of the best wireless earbuds under $50 you can find.

RTINGS.com
The 5 Best Wireless Earbuds Under $50 - Spring 2023: Reviews

The TOZO NC7 Truly Wireless are the best wireless earbuds under $50 that we've tested. Although they're otherwise scant on extra features, they have a high-powered noise cancelling (ANC) system that easily blocks out sound around you.

marsh sphinx
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Saw this on their list but a little confused why so cheap

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Also I'm probably gonna get a board without wifi, I'm just gonna throw a wifi card in there

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Would I have to grab a Bluetooth card too or something?

grand orbit
grand orbit
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never heard of them

marsh sphinx
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I have a buddy who has a pair of Skullcandy headphones and they've been to Hell and back

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They still work fine

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So tempting

marsh sphinx
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Really?

grand orbit
azure pond
marsh sphinx
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Probably explains why they're so cheap

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But like I'm probably gonna hammer these earbuds

tawdry dragon
gusty river
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Are those the ones that shake on your head? A store by me had them on display and it’s a crazy experience🤯

Would probably be very cool for watching movies and TV Shows, but I feel like for music it could get old quick. Luckily there is a slider to adjust the intensity. They sound alright, and I wanted to get a pair just because of how unique they are, but they’re pretty expensive for average headphones that vibrate

swift forge
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The deal was so good that dyno bot didn’t even add a downvote

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jolly inlet
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It didn't add an upvote either but it didn't need to ig

light bay
brittle lagoon
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Nooo how could you

daring depot
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i just realized you share profile pics

prisma mortar
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?

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oh

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lmao

light bay
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Nah we dont

prisma mortar
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it's similar but not the same pfps

light bay
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Mr1 has the masked version (COVID is over @brittle lagoon ...)

daring depot
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hmm

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Masked Comm

prisma mortar
azure pond
brittle lagoon
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Wildfire isn't over

jolly inlet
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Covid will never be over, it'll be with us forever. Like that brother in law that promises he'll start looking for a job again.

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We still get people dying of the bubonic plague every year after all. And that's in the US too.

cloud hornet
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Lots of covid prices haven't gone away yet, thus covid still here.

frosty gate
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Lots of factors

cinder kiln
stoic crest
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@grand orbit scam bot here

cinder kiln
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@grand orbit

grand orbit
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Ty

stoic crest
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begone hacked account

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turned rogue smh

cinder kiln
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Betrayed the senate

grand orbit
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That's a sick deal @azure pond

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Nice find

azure pond
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Yeah really nice mobo, great io on it too

trim pier
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@azure pond that's the mobo for my dream build but idl if I should buy cause like.. i don't need it rn 😭

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but the only issue I have with it is the amount of ports

grand orbit
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@swift forge you needa post a link not a screenshot

trim pier
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@swift forge va 🤮

swift forge
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Va is alright for casual gaming

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I doubt ghosting Will really be noticable and it’s pretty good for 32in

trim pier
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ghosting?

swift forge
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Va panels have ghosting

prisma mortar
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Va is at least better than tn, at least in colour and viewing angles

swift forge
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Va is better for colors then ips iirc

prisma mortar
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Nah

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Ips is the best? In terms of lcd displays I mean

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Tho honestly you could have a really crap IPS panel and a really good Va panel

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But afaik the best IPS panel is better than the best Va panel in colour accuracy

swift forge
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Just depends on the model ig

prisma mortar
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Not quite the model, but more of the panel and calibration

light holly
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The trade-offs between IPS and VA are that IPS has better color accuracy than VA and VA has deeper blacks/whites than IPS. IPS has less ghosting than VA (unless you have a crappy panel). VA likes to ghost especially hard with Reds/Blacks/Grays.

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Having gamed on a VA panel for the last year.. I'd say go for IPS. The ghosting makes a lot of games look funky when you start moving around, even slightly.

fiery zephyr
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Hop off the bandwagon please

trim pier
fiery zephyr
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The contrast is great

trim pier
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all ik is that va has better colors or whatsoever but otherwise

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that’s all i know

fiery zephyr
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Lolll

trim pier
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and i mean i practically knew what ghosting is i’ve just never heard that term being used for some colors being heavier on va 💀

fiery zephyr
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Its fine lmaoo

azure pond
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Going from VA 1080p to ips 1440p was like day and night, the contrast is incredible

fiery zephyr
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Unless it's qled

grand orbit
fiery zephyr
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But that's another story

fiery zephyr
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Lmfao

azure pond
fiery zephyr
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LOL

azure pond
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If I didn't know you pato I'd say that's a bit sus

grand orbit
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VA has deeper blacks than IPS

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All other colours ips is better

cloud hornet
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Also isn't VA generally better for color uniformity and backlight bleed? Of course it's generally more dependent on the exact panel itself rather then IPS/VA, but I do remember IPS generally doing worse in those regards.

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Also something to note for VA, it isn't impossible to have good response time. Lot of the high end pre-OLED Samsung displays had great great response times despite being VA. Tho, not very many good VA panels are made rn AFAIK.

azure pond
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My VA panel had an advertised 1ms, but I dont exactly believe the advertised response time for most monitors

cloud hornet
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Marketing is always bs

marsh sphinx
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Better than the ASRock Riptide?

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$120 for a B760 with wifi

grand orbit
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Yes

marsh sphinx
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Cool stuff

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Silver gets on my nerve a bit but hopefully it'll match with my Phantom Spirit

marsh sphinx
grand orbit
marsh sphinx
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I really want this

grand orbit
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I literally couldn't tell yaq

marsh sphinx
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Someone told me to check out the 13500T

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What's that all about?

grand orbit
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Who tf said that lol

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T cpus are like 25w

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Meant for mini pcs like the nucs

marsh sphinx
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I can't remember to be completely fair

trim pier
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honestly i gotta check out the 13500, never heard of it lmao

marsh sphinx
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Just as of their specs RN

grand orbit
marsh sphinx
grand orbit
trim pier
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so it’s basically a 13600k just difference in E cores?

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and slower speeds and etc ofc

grand orbit
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No

marsh sphinx
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It's very similar to a 13400

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Except has the iGPU of a 13600

grand orbit
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13600k has way more cache than 13400

marsh sphinx
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And four more eCores

marsh sphinx
grand orbit
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It's basically a 13400 with 4 more e cores and the higher tier igpu

grand orbit
marsh sphinx
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Quite literally the exact same price

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Though if I could get my hands on a Z690 for a reasonable price I'd be more leaniant towards the 12600K

azure pond
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I'd still go 12600k between the two at the same price

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Or if 13500 is still $210 at best buy (went on sale again earlier today) I'd get that

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Nope, oos at bb

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Just checked

marsh sphinx
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Feels weird getting a 13th gen board for a 12th gen CPU purely for DDR5

grand orbit
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Um hm ask felix I'd lean 13th since the newer cores but idk how they compare

azure pond
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13400f on d5 might actually be better than 12600k on d5

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I'm not sure

marsh sphinx
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I wanna get a Z690 but that'd mean I'd have to use DDR4 and lose like a 10% performance boost

azure pond
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Tbh though probably a minute difference, since you won't have a gpu for a bit the 12600k would still be my choice

grand orbit
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Wait for @cinder kiln to weigh in

marsh sphinx
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I just don't wanna buy DDR4 and have it become irrelevant in like two years

marsh sphinx
grand orbit
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Ddr4 isn't gonna make a great cpu irrelevant

azure pond
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Personally, I would do 12600k with that mobo you linked

marsh sphinx
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I mean I'd be saving money going with a B660 or Z690 with DDR4 to be completely fair

marsh sphinx
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Just can't do the blackout I was going for

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But whatever

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I mean

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If I did get a Z690, how far could I get overclocking wise?

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I was told these are realitively cheap used since they kinda flooded the market awhile back

cloud hornet
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So afaik no new cores.

high radish
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btw don't forget about newegg and MC combos

stoic crest
tiny heron
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EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SC GAMING
On evga bstock for $129.99
Triple slot single fan though

stoic crest
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thicc gpu

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but that's a great price

azure pond
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Seconded

cinder kiln
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It's gonna be the faster cpu so you may as well get it in a like for like scenario

marsh sphinx
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Obviously not gonna live off that forever, but nice little tool

light holly
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I lived off the 12600k igpu for a few months. Was enough to play a few games I couldn't wait for my GPU to play.

marsh sphinx
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I’d be chill with that

trim pier
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i wish i had ddr5 tbh

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i'm slowly upgrading to 1440p, just waiting for the 6800xt or something to drop in price

cinder kiln
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6800XT already dropped to 500 before

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It's probably not gonna get much lower than that any time soon lol

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If anything the 7700XT will drop and be slightly cheaper than that, like how the 7600 has played out vs. the 6700

trim pier
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mhm

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I wonder if they'll have a better 7700xt then expected, unlike the 7600

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but you think about it, the 7000's series hasn't released the 7650's and so on, and if the 7600 is 5% better than the 6650xt, what about the 7650/xt?

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or actually, it'd probably be the 7600xt before the 7650xt so

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so who knows if the 7650xt peformance is barely any better than a 6700xt or whatsoever, but from what I kinda imagine if just the 7600 is better than 6650xt by a small 5%, then the xt/50xt could level to the 6700xt or even 6750xt if they wanted

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then again they might just do the nivida strategy and just make newer gen versions of their older cards and boost performance by a few but have it at affordable prices

shut lava
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I've also seen used 6900 XT cards sell for $490-$500. If you have $500 for a 6800 xt, a used $500 6900 XT might be worth considering.

grand orbit
jolly inlet
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The difference between the 13400 and 12600k while on a B660 or B760 is that the 13400 has the SA voltage locked at 1V max, so memory overclocking is severely limited.

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The 12600k has no such limit

grand orbit
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Ah true forgot about that

cinder kiln
mortal blaze
grand orbit
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Because you can get better drives for less than 40$

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980 and 980 pro are very different drives and even if it was 980 pro I'd be iffy recommending it because of the firmware deleting the contents of the drive/completely dying issue

grave delta
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Yeah, given the similarly competitive options, 980/990 pro is a little iffy. That said, I updated my drives no problem with samsung magician.

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I got two of the 980 pro 1TB lately at $60 - will check firmware soon. maybe they shipped with the updated stuff.

grand orbit
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Yeah can be okay but apparently if firmware flash goes wrong and bricks drive samsung isn't covering that so you've just burnt money + shouldn't be a need, most ppl don't realise there's firmware for drives that could require updates

trim pier
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idk if my mp34 needs a firmware update, same with my intel 670p even though it's sitting as a backup.

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honestly I might just replace my 670p with something like a solidigm and give it to my friend, but prices keep dropping so I keep waiting lmao

prisma mortar
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Check the firmware version and the current release

brittle lagoon
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Most of the time, you don't need to care about ssd firmware

trim pier
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ngl. I have absolutely no clue how to do that

brittle lagoon
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Don't think there's any issues with team or Intel firmwares

trim pier
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and honestly, I don't think the mp34 would really

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ya

brittle lagoon
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So there's probably no updates

trim pier
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i'm even looking at it rn, no previous versions and so on for eac

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each*

grand orbit
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They'll have tools on their sites, probably none but no harm might get a tiny speed bump or something

prisma mortar
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My crucial drives also like never get updates either

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Haven't checked in like 2 months but I kinda doubt that they would have an update lmao

trim pier
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i've have my system for 5 months now

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biggest issue I got is my graphics card not working

prisma mortar
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Average pc issues

trim pier
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but nothing with my system's storage being slow and etc

trim pier
brittle lagoon
prisma mortar
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Actually, average pc issue is like, it's not plugged in skullcry

trim pier
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My graphics card just techincally "stops working" and allows intregrated to kick in

prisma mortar
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Why do so many people not check if the device is plugged in or not

trim pier
prisma mortar
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It's almost like they expect the pc to run on magic

brittle lagoon
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People can't tell the difference between on and off on the PSU switch

trim pier
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I reseated my gpu and unplugged and replugged my hdmi's so many times

prisma mortar
trim pier
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ngl it's confusing

brittle lagoon
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In and out

prisma mortar
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It's like age old

brittle lagoon
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Imagine if it's On and Off

prisma mortar
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Even power bars use I and O

trim pier
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Imagine they actually put a light switch on PSU's now with on and off

prisma mortar
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They fr need to do that

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At least for office pcs skullcry skullcry skullcry

brittle lagoon
#

Would be annoying lol

trim pier
#

mhm

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what's more annoying is that you can't do anything about your graphics card randomly shutting off due to a windows issue and therefore have to disable it in device manager before reenabling it Oh_No

prisma mortar
#

Actually, I've seen quite a few psus on prebuilt that just don't have the switch anymore lmfao

#

No more struggling with figuring out the I/O power switch

trim pier
#

build redux

grave delta
#

Somewhat related - ran some quick tests on the server last week with a bench image before we installed esxi -
https://i.imgur.com/fggaYlt.png
C: 800GB IBM SLC U.2
F: Team Group MP34 M.2 2280 4TB PCIe 3.0 x4
H: 4x p31 1TB windows storage pool
I: 1x p31 1TB
J: 990 pro 2TB

Imgur
trim pier
grave delta
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On a 13900ks, the IBM drive scores more like 260 MB/s in RND4k q1t1 read

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Bit slow here with zen3

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But similar to a 905p

jolly inlet
brisk sphinx
#

I always thought it was from binary

prisma mortar
#

I mean

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Binary didn't really exist back then? I don't think?

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The I/O symbols have been used from way before the computing era afaik

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Digital computing era I mean

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Analog computers are too old

light bay
brittle lagoon
prisma mortar
#

💀

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no wagos 0/10

stoic crest
#

amogus wiring

pallid geyser
#

blue vented

jolly inlet
jolly inlet
jolly inlet
prisma mortar
#

Hmm

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When did that really old mechanism for calculating the stars originate

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Hmmm from the 2nd century b.c.

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Though if mechanisms as complicated as that existed back then, who's to say binary hasn't existed then as well

#

I'm referencing the Antikythera mechanism

cloud hornet
#

But idk if that is standard for wire colors

trim pier
#

450$ 6900xt used on my facebook marketplace.

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I ask the guy about it and if he can benchmark it

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leaves me on read ;-;

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He’s had it since the mining era for sure cause the box has the microcenter used sticker on it for 1,400$..

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Plus he upgraded to the 4080, so it seems a bi… sus

narrow bronze
#

is that intel m.2 any good was just gonna buy the p41 but saw it was on sale

prisma mortar
#

which one

narrow bronze
#

the one that was posted in tech deals

stoic crest
#

It's pretty good in itself

#

P41 Plus is also good but personally I don't think it's needed unless you have money to spend

narrow bronze
#

yea im running thin on this budget so ima save every dollar I can

stoic crest
#

$35 per tb is great

azure pond
#

Unless it's oos

#

M371 is a decent drive and is $35 for 1tb, if you want to downsize storage

trim pier
#

ik linus tech or somebody did a review on it

#

gamer nexus

jolly inlet
civic sun
pallid geyser
trim pier
#

So uh I need someone real quick

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basically this is the person with the 6900xt i’m trying to buy off of, and I asked him to benchmark it.

shut lava
#

I'd ask for 3DMark port Royal and 3DMark Time Spy along with the TimeSPy stress Test and screenshots of the results.

grave delta
#

If you're worried about hotspot- ask him to run with gpuz sensors in the background, include in screenshot at the end. Set hotspot monitoring, other sensors to read to max.

void whale
#

@high radish I particularly enjoy this image

image.png
high radish
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lol

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I see actual image but idk

narrow bronze
#

so what happens if i order it even if its a price error ?

void whale
#

refund the money

high radish
#

damn its gone so fast

void whale
#

yep

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maybe they pulled it already lol

high radish
narrow bronze
#

yea it wasnt working like a minute ago when i was trying to complete order

high radish
#

look at this one lol

brisk sphinx
#

8x8 ram kekw

high radish
#

omg

void whale
#

clearing that warehouse storage

high radish
#

probably yes

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sorry for long link

high radish
#

Btw I don't know how good or bad is that ssd I just got it for my dashcam hmm

fiery zephyr
#

Wtf are these deals LMAOO

#

Someones gonna get fired

high radish
#

Probably cleaning warehouse hmm

#

I ordered that 1050w and those ssds lets see if orders will go through

pallid geyser
#

Dammit

#

Missed it

high radish
#

ordered ssd for my dashcam lol

#

it's cheaper than regular 256gb flash drive KEKW

pallid geyser
fair moon
#

how yall finding these?

fiery zephyr
#

frfr

pallid geyser
fair moon
#

ordering that hdd backup i think

pallid geyser
#

(I’m sorry for spam)

high radish
fiery zephyr
fair moon
#

wish I got the ssd

pallid geyser
#

2080ti block

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@flat wind

fair moon
#

how do you see all these?

pallid geyser
#

Just scrolling through Newegg

prisma mortar
#

By being a gamer

#

Tech deal sensew

high radish
fair moon
high radish
#

I gonna use it for my dashcam

pallid geyser
high radish
#

which records only 720p pepeF

#

imagine 100k car dashcam only records 720p pepeF

pallid geyser
high radish
#

let me grab one

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I mean not one but anyways

#

code is one time use tho

#

But I can switch accounts peeporich

pallid geyser
fair moon
#

(for $100)

pallid geyser
high radish
#

would get one if it was gen4 hmm

#

gen3 isn't that attractive

pallid geyser
high radish
#

better bouse

pallid geyser
#

Headphones ^

high radish
pallid geyser
#

Keeb ^

high radish
#

hmm that keeb looks alright

pallid geyser
high radish
#

what about this router hmm

pallid geyser
#

Was about to post that

#

Honestly thought about picking it up lol

high radish
#

hmm beyerdynamic is good german brend tho

pallid geyser
high radish
#

looks like thats all

#

nothing decent left out there

pallid geyser
#

Yep

#

Rip in pieces

high radish
#

only ordered 1050w psu and 2x 1tb portable ssd

#

lets see what happens

grave delta
#

What psu/ssd?

fair moon
high radish
#

yeah exactly

#

psu is A tier so I think its alright

grave delta
high radish
#

ssd is probably trash but it's still alright for dashcam which records only 720p hmm

grave delta
#

Wouldn't a 256GB micro sd work well?

#

Even 1TB is pretty cheap

fiery zephyr
grave delta
#

What storage wasn't?

fiery zephyr
#

lolll

tiny heron
grave delta
#

No idea - I'd google around a bit about what's best before you buy

tiny heron
#

26.99 for 512

fleet marlin
trim pier
#

all these links

#

oml

#

anyways anyone wanna help me with benchmark readings?

trim pier
#

eh heck with it i'll post here

#

he took real crappy pictures for a person with a 4080 + 7900x, anyways it SEEMs like it performs, issue is one person I was talking to said I should check temps + might be artifacting? Something with the vram not working ofc

#

and yes this is a tech deal discussion cause a used 6900xt for 450$ I certainly cannot pass 😎

jolly inlet
#

Slightly below average scores, nothing too unexpected. Clock speeds seem stable enough so temps aren't an issue on the GPU. Artifacting is a little harder to figure out but if you are getting it, run DDU first thing.

trim pier
jolly inlet
#

Nothing jumps out at me. You'll probably get your scores up above average by bumping up the power and temp limits on the GPU.

keen marsh
#

180$ for a 6600 is insane no?

stoic crest
#

yes

jolly inlet
#

There's 2 at that price right now. It's a great deal.

keen marsh
#

Oh I didn't even see the Gigabyte one

#

Added it

trim pier
#

not to scare you but isn't gigabyte going through some sort of issue with the gpu port thing (the hook) cracking?

trim pier
keen marsh
jolly inlet
#

Do you mean the PCB issues? Yeah that's the huge cards

trim pier
#

No clue, probably is though.

keen marsh
#

My Aorus 3090 probably would suffer from it.

trim pier
#

and gigabyte denying warranty for it

keen marsh
#

ye

dry flume
#

I don't like the eagle 6600 being thaat large for an entry level card, kinda overkill

keen marsh
#

3080 and up and then the 4000 series.

jolly inlet
#

Yep. They had a weaker PCB material than other brands possibly. But that'll be from sag over time, and on a small number of cards overall.

fair moon
dry flume
#

but $180 is a gift for ultra 1080p gaming

trim pier
#

^ better than my 6650xt msi

stoic crest
#

Cheaper cases these days can fit bigger gpus

jolly inlet
#

Yeah that's the funny thing about more fans, it can actually be quieter

stoic crest
#

Because yeah for one, they lack 3.5" hard drive cages

#

That's the main reason

fair moon
#

I had a 3 fan gigabyte 2060 (not eagle, but similar) that was incredibly quiet even under full load

keen marsh
#

I think unless you have one of the weird ITX Cases the 3 fan is fine.

dry flume
#

I'd kill for a quieter gpu

stoic crest
#

Which is okay right now

#

SSDs are cheap now lmao

#

Hilariously so

dry flume
#

my asus evo 2060 sounds pretty loud when 99% usage

stoic crest
#

$35 per tb for some drives

jolly inlet
#

$65 for 2TB

keen marsh
dry flume
#

at least mine has 2 fans lol

stoic crest
#

Which 2TB ssd is $65 rn?

#

Lowest I'm seeing is 69.99

keen marsh
#

Single fan monstrosity that shouldn't have been made the way it was.

jolly inlet
#

670p was $65 earlier, might have sold out

stoic crest
#

Ah

keen marsh
#

Its 69.99$ right now

stoic crest
#

Probably got back up to 69.99 then

#

The day I posted the deal

dry flume
keen marsh
jolly inlet
#

Imagine a blower 4090

stoic crest
#

It was a thing but Nvidia ree'd

#

So nope

keen marsh
#

went from like 1.5 slots to 2.5 slots and added like 4 more heatpipes

stoic crest
#

It'll cannibalize the quadros

keen marsh
#

Gigabyte Turbo 4090 when

stoic crest
#

Funny enough in Siemens NX, a CAD program

keen marsh
stoic crest
#

Radeon 6000 and 7000 slaps 4090

#

So hard that it's embarrassed by even 6500XT

jolly inlet
trim pier
#

I just realized that this 6900xt might not even fit my pc case

dry flume
keen marsh
stoic crest
#

A goddamn 6500XT with 4gb vram slapping 4090 in CAD is funny as heck

dry flume
#

🛫

jolly inlet
trim pier
#

😭

#

wielding class oh help me god

jolly inlet
#

You can make it fit with a little elbow grease

dry flume
trim pier
stoic crest
#

Arc seems to consistently slot into the worst cards for workstation stuff

#

Worst in blender too

trim pier
#

@jolly inlet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nZhqlO8-ek end of the video 🤯

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stoic crest
trim pier
#

not my case but there's somewhere about him trying to shove the 4090 inside the 205 mesh type c

stoic crest
#

Proof of said embarrassment

#

Look at it doubling 4090

#

No, more than doubling

#

Annihilated it pepelmao

jolly inlet
#

4090 barely showed up to that race

stoic crest
#

yep

#

In some other softwares like CATIA, 6700XT offers the same performance as 4090

#

While XTX stands at the top

#

3ds max however the 4090 reigns king

#

With XTX just at second place

marsh sphinx
#

Any 240mm or 360mm AIO recommendations?

stoic crest
#

Honestly the XTX is one amazing budget workstation gpu

jolly inlet
marsh sphinx
jolly inlet
#

For the RGB ones maybe. 240mm blacked out model is $93

marsh sphinx
jolly inlet
#

That's on the cheap end for good ones

marsh sphinx
#

Unsure what it’s pump or cold plate is like though

#

I like the look of it though

marsh sphinx
keen gust
jolly inlet
#

It linked to a 3600 14-15-15 kit when I clicked

light holly
#

I kinda wanna grab a 6600 lol

azure pond
brisk sphinx
#

It linked me to an 18-20-20 kit

#

Nvm now it links me to 3600c14-15-15

jolly inlet
#

The 4000 kit is gone from the look of it anyway, it's only third party now

#

Still $85 for 3600 c14 isn't the worst, too bad it's RGB tho

brisk sphinx
#

Isn’t that 3600 kit what Danny bought?

cinder kiln
#

Danny buys a lot of things 🗿

fiery zephyr
fiery zephyr
cinder kiln
fiery zephyr
#

Deviled eggs as your pfp get your hungry ass outa here

grand orbit
keen gust
grave delta
#

Usually that's really low tier junk like green sticc oem

#

3600c16 royals vary a lot, we had one that did 4700c13 32m/ycruncher

pulsar fable
quasi pasture
fiery zephyr
quasi pasture
#

oh wait no that was a 3200c14 dimm

marsh sphinx
#

Still better than my 3200CL16

pulsar fable
#

I'm not doing any better with 3600CL18

quasi pasture
#

tbf any of those dimms i tested needed maxmem at like 2-4GB per module to work at that speed

fiery zephyr
#

I dint know how far my bdie will go

marsh sphinx
#

That's what I replaced my 3200CL16 kit with since it gave out

#

And I didn't wanna bother waiting for a kit in the mail

#

So I paid $50 for a 16GB RGB 3600CL18 kit at a Best Buy

jolly inlet
#

I hate to break it to you... but 3200 c16 and 3600 c18 are virtually identical in all the ways that matter. 3600 is slightly better for Ryzen because of infinity fabric, but that's it.

quasi pasture
marsh sphinx
#

I'm gonna be getting DDR5 here anyways

jolly inlet
#

Good. You had 12600k right? That does benefit from DDR5 a fair bit. Low end DDR5 beats high end DDR4 on it.

quasi pasture
#

ddr3 JJKNaoyaSmirk

marsh sphinx
jolly inlet
#

Ah yeah it wouldn't be very big. Good for having the upgrade later.

marsh sphinx
#

These are the parts I'm slowly buying

#

Still deciding if I wanna get a 3060 Ti or 2080 Ti

#

Whichever can run older games more stable and still keeps up with modern games like War Thunder and CoD

grand orbit
#

2080ti is a bit better unless you care about ray tracing

marsh sphinx
#

Seems counterproductive anyways for online games and the old single player games I play

#

Though 2080 Ti is sitting a little under 3070 Ti prices from what I can see on eBay

jolly inlet
grand orbit
marsh sphinx
grand orbit
#

ohh that would be v nice

marsh sphinx
grand orbit
#

nice model too

marsh sphinx
#

If it's clean then maybe

#

I'm just more leaniant towards Nvidia right now because of instability issues with AMD on older games

#

I'll have to check if the listing is still up too

grand orbit
marsh sphinx
grand orbit
#

its a pretty heavy cpu bottleneck game too even at 1440p granted im using dlss so basically 720p but even without dlss

keen marsh
pulsar fable
#

Damn I wish I had gpu deals like that here. I ain't driving half way across the country for a $300 gpu

cinder kiln
#

$900 XTX

grand orbit
cinder kiln
#

I-

azure pond
#

Was busy and went oos before I had time

fiery zephyr
jolly inlet
#

@shut lava 3060 ti is $275 right now

fiery zephyr
#

lo

shut lava
#

PNY though. lol

jolly inlet
#

Doesn't matter it's a low power model anyway

shut lava
#

Has PNY improved their warranty/RMA support in the US?

fair moon
#

cheapest 6700 is 279 and 6700xt 309, dang

jolly inlet
#

I might be worried if it was the G6X model since the memory gets so hot

shut lava
small token
trim pier
#

nivida really said "we ain't making money"

#

but 1440p monitors still high 😔

#

AGHHHHHH

#

THIS IS IT

jolly inlet
#

Nvidia is making tons of money though. So much money, the gaming market is an afterthought.

#

They really don't care that gamers aren't buying. AI is paying the bills now.

trim pier
#

true

#

but I think they're gaining money now considering they're selling out old graphic cards that've been sitting in warehouses for how long

#

instead of being an up and down in sales due to pricing.

jolly inlet
#

They're taking a loss on some of that discounted old stock. All they're doing there is recouping part of the investment.

#

(generally low end stuff has a lower profit margin, they could totally afford to sell a 3090 ti for $800)

trim pier
#

true.

#

Plus they're kinda competing with AMD for the first time in awhile for the lower tier market.

#

anyways I wish had the spending money for that monitor though 😭

cinder kiln
#

Wow finally a 3060Ti is kinda worth buying new

#

Only took what 2 years to get back to that point?

stoic crest
#

4060 just hit eu with 339 euros price tag puke

cinder kiln
#

Wonder how much 3060 Ti will be over there soon

stoic crest
#

inb4 price overlaps with 4060

#

nvidia is releasing absolute joke of gpus

#

two of them by now

#

4070 kinda fits the bill, but at LEAST it offered extra perf

#

wrong price, hardware is passable

trim pier
#

foxy

#

just send me your address, i'll ship it 😎

stoic crest
#

I'm in thailand, shipping would destroy your wallet

trim pier
#

my cousins are in cambodia

#

not much of a drive

stoic crest
#

lol

trim pier
#

plus thailand cities in the night PepeSus

stoic crest
#

I have no use for a gpu anyway other than selling it for moners

#

Just sold my rig off to some dad and son a few days back

cinder kiln
stoic crest
#

That's indeed the state of Nvidia in 2023

#

Selling gpu? No, DLSS 3

#

VRAM? Not needed

trim pier
#

oh you need more than 8 gb's of vram? just spend less on our cards, more on ram!

stoic crest
#

lmao

cinder kiln
#

The fact the 3060ti is already a better price than the 4060 makes the new card DOA

stoic crest
#

ye

trim pier
#

I wonder if nivida's gonna start making RAM

stoic crest
#

lmao

trim pier
#

"3090 speeds of ram!"

stoic crest
#

Nvidia ram

trim pier
#

ngl

#

that might work

cinder kiln
#

6000MHz kits

azure pond
#

rtx ram

trim pier
#

well actually

cinder kiln
#

Rtx ram A_WheezeTao

trim pier
#

yk what

#

what if you buy the graphics card

cinder kiln
#

BEYOND FAST™️

stoic crest
#

Ram with ray tracing capability

trim pier
#

and you can adjust the capability of the ram

cinder kiln
#

Frame gen ram

trim pier
#

by having a ram slot inside the gpu

stoic crest
#

lmao

trim pier
#

Like you could buy a 12vram stick

stoic crest
#

That's just wack af

trim pier
#

or a 24gb stick of vram by them

stoic crest
#

Plop 3090 vram kit in there kekw

trim pier
#

nonoononono

stoic crest
#

And figure out how to cool all that gddr6x

trim pier
#

you buy the card

cinder kiln
#

Oh I get it

trim pier
#

so like it could be a 3060ti or a 3090

stoic crest
#

ya

cinder kiln
#

That's a neat idea tbh

trim pier
#

but it could have like 24gb of vram

stoic crest
#

But with no vram installed

cinder kiln
#

But also I hate it cos nvidia could charge anything

trim pier
#

mhm

stoic crest
#

Like an empty gpu with only die

trim pier
#

profit margins 🆙 🔝

stoic crest
#

$300 for 16gb stonks1

trim pier
stoic crest
#

$600 24

trim pier
#

techincally they could outsell amd business

#

crash the gpu market

stoic crest
#

I love and hate this idea

trim pier
#

make these ramless GPU's with their clocked speeds

#

and cheapen them up

stoic crest
#

It's cool but Nvidia will just abuse it kekw

trim pier
#

and take over the ram market and control the gpu market

#

BRO

stoic crest
#

Cheap gpu expensive ram

trim pier
#

IM GONNA SEND THIS IDEA TO

#

dude

#

I just remembered that yesterday (20th) was the last day to send ap/college course class tests to colleges of my choice

#

oh well

#

but I'm gonna patent this idea, make millions in royalites

#

hey mods could you like possibly clear 100 messages up of this chat

#

as if it never existed

cinder kiln
#

Get going bruv you'll miss ur chance

trim pier
#

step one. How tf do i contact nividia

cinder kiln
#

Submit this convo and a crudely drawn serviette to the American Patent Office

trim pier
#

well

#

i'd need nivida's permission first

cinder kiln
#

No you don't

trim pier
#

cause i'm basically using their cards as a concept

cinder kiln
#

Inserting a sodimm with vram on it is a neat idea

trim pier
#

well also you think about it

#

wouldn't the connection be slow?

cinder kiln
#

You can use any card for your idea

#

Yes

trim pier
#

cause you're connecting a pcie with a ram slot

cinder kiln
#

But here's the thing

#

Not all apps need fast vram

#

For workstation it would unironically be amazing if you made it work

#

Grab any old 5060 say and slap in up to 32gb

trim pier
#

Hmm another issue is

cinder kiln
#

Great enough for cad sim

trim pier
#

they could see my patent

cinder kiln
#

Ye and?

trim pier
#

copy it but make it to where the ram slot is in a different place

#

cause like in shark tank n bs

cinder kiln
#

That's where legal comes in

trim pier
#

or even, they don't make graphic cards

#

they just replace it with ram.

#

it's all ram

cinder kiln
#

Nah needs to be vram

#

I'm not too smart about this but I'm pretty sure dram and vram are different executions

trim pier
#

they make vram into kits of ram

#

that's practically what my genius idea is

#

issue is, they'd need fans

#

heatsinks maybe

jolly inlet
#

Here's one of the main fundamental differences between standard DRAM and GDDR. Modern GDDR6 uses PAM4 signaling, GDDR7 will be PAM3.

NRZvsPAM4-BitsClockComparison.png
shut lava
# trim pier IM GONNA SEND THIS IDEA TO

The idea of modular RAM on a graphics card is old. You use to be able to add RAM to a graphics card in the 1990s. Then signal integrity became an issue and that's why modular VRAM isn't done now.

trim pier
#

it’s still a bit iffy with the quick speeds issue, but basically a riser cable with two slots (one for ram and one for card) could work, or an extra pcie is used for the ram.

trim pier
shut lava
#

Even a traditional DIMM slot won't work.

trim pier
#

I’m no specialist but isn’t vram just soldered onto a motherboard chip for the gpu?

shut lava
#

VRAM is soldered onto the graphcis card board really close to the GPU.

#

So a riser card for additional VRAM or a DIMM for VRAM will have signal integrity issues because its too far away from the GPU.

#

Adding RAM to a graphics display cards worked back in the mid to early 90s because the RAM speeds were slower and it was a different type of RAM.

trim pier
#

hmm..

#

I know once you cap out your vram for games, it can use your normal ram unallocated/unused ram to cover how much it needs

#

I wonder if there’s something that’s possible with that.

shut lava
#

If there was a way to make a modern graphics card where you could add VRAM, have it work properly, and make it profitable, Nvidia would have done it already.

shut lava
jolly inlet
trim pier
#

hmm, i’ve seen it happen but not to me atleast.

tawdry dragon
#

I can't send the link (because it'd reveal where I live), but I just found a 9700k/nhd15/z390 combo for $185, is it a good deal?

grand orbit
# tawdry dragon

nope, you can get a 5600 and a520 for less and for new and its gonna be better

tawdry dragon
#

To be fair it comes with a chunky cooler

grand orbit
#

5600 doesnt need a chunky cooler

tawdry dragon
#

Also $60 mobo?

pulsar fable
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Also yes am4 is known for cheap motherboardd

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So $60 is plausible

tawdry dragon
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Honestly it's a bragging right, it's for if I'm going to sell it

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So I can say i7 z390 and nhd14s

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People think bigger is better most of the time

pulsar fable
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You mean flipping it?

grand orbit
tawdry dragon
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People are less likely to buy if it's a Ryzen 5 instead of a Intel core i7

grand orbit
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5600 is far better than it in every way, and people buy rgb over big cooler

tawdry dragon
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Still people think bigger is better, you're not gonna sell anything by saying it's better and explaining how

pulsar fable
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Bigger

tawdry dragon
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Ik

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I have the pa already in my system

tawdry dragon
pulsar fable
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You mean i7?

tawdry dragon
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Yeah basically

pulsar fable
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Yeah I guess? But that's not sound logic for someone who spends more than 5 minutes researching a gaming pc

tawdry dragon
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If they're looking on fb marketplace they're not doing any research

grand orbit
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Which what kinda person doesn't when spending like hundreds of dollars

tawdry dragon
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I just had a stroke reading that

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But I guess

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I know people who don't do any research though, my cousin bought a 2060 super/11400 PC for $1.2k

pulsar fable
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;-;

tawdry dragon
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This was only a few months ago, too

light holly
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@azure pond On backorder until 12/2023

trim pier
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I swear they had it on amazon or newegg

azure pond
narrow bronze
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is $300 for a used 3070 a good deal?

stoic crest
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that's about average

jolly inlet
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It's the GOG version of Prey, for anyone wondering

silent rampart
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whats prey

vague pine
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basically prophunt but aliens

daring depot
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Aww I wanted prey, but I canceled prime a long time ago

tawdry dragon
narrow bronze
narrow bronze
daring depot
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Really? That'd be awesome but do you already have the game?

narrow bronze
daring depot
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Wait I just read that a 3070 for 269!?

tawdry dragon