tech-deals-discussion

[tawdry dragon]

Yeah

[thorny atlas]

https://www.jawa.gg/product/18082/i3-12100-+-Gigabyte-B660m-Ds3H-+-Noctua-LH9i-Combo-Deal is this a good deal?

[grand orbit]

That doesn't load for me, did you miss part of the link?

[thorny atlas]

I think it got taken down because it isnt showing up on jawa anymore

it was a 12100, b660 ds3m and noctua lh9i for 180$

[grand orbit]

Sounds decent ye

[fair moon]

Kinda odd to use that cooler with anything other than an itx build but not bad

[tawdry dragon]

This look sketchy or no https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BBJ59WJ4?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&ref=psp_pc_a_A3KSXDDS35VEML

[stoic crest]

Looks real to me

Shipped and sold by Amazon

[tawdry dragon]

alright, I'll post it then

[eager junco]

Not a deal 7900x is $350 on Antonline eBay

[fiery zephyr]

Buds living in his own lil world

[stoic crest]

Post that if you have the source

[eager junco]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304642495286? I’m not gonna post it but it was on buildapcsales yesterday

[trim pier]

I got a question

what exactly is wrong with the msi mech model

ive never figured out really

[light bay]

the cooler isnt great

so it runs a bit on the hotter/louder side

[jolly inlet]

They use a cheap aluminum cooler and used the minimum amount of materials to be considered acceptable in a case with good airflow

So if you have a case with poor airflow, such as one with a glass front or very few fans, it can overheat.

[trim pier]

so like 2 140's? (205 mesh type c)

cause tbh 60 degrees celcius shouldn't be that bad right?

on 90-100%

[jolly inlet]

Is it the mech 2x 6600XT or what?

[proper wagon]

$170 for a 32in 1440p IPS is a decent deal no?

[high radish]

it is

[silent rampart]

very good deal

[proper wagon]

I was just looking at upgrading my 23 in monitor... might go snag one

[grand orbit]

pretty standard for low refresh monitors

[proper wagon]

Is there anything better right now? I am tired of my smol monitor

[grand orbit]

not sure about the exact monitor looks fine tho

[proper wagon]

Also something to consider - they're doing 15% back as rewards points for sign ups right now too so that's around 153ish or so before tax, I went and picked one up to see if it's worth or not - will report back

[proper wagon]

Honestly with the money back this is a pretty decent deal... usb c port with 65w output, usb a, white balance is decent. If you're not playing competitive games this guy is very solid

[shut lava]

I had a feeling that 20 pack of 6TB WD blue drives was a listing error, however I took a chance on it. In the past I've received some great deals on bulk OEM drives of 4TB and under, but this wasn't one. One drive showed up today, not 20. I ended up receiving a full refund and don't have to send the drive back.

Now I don't even see the original post in #tech-deals

[jolly inlet]

I figured that was going to be the case. Free 6TB drive though!

[shut lava]

Yay! feee drive!

[jolly inlet]

That's because it was de-listed https://www.amazon.com/WD60EZRZ-Blue-3-5-inch-SATA-Drive/dp/B01AD3GYAS

[olive lance]

@jolly inlet no c10 smh

kidding

[jolly inlet]

I get you're kidding but that's because C10=V10=U1

V ratings go higher, C ends at 10

[olive lance]

Ok

[jolly inlet]

Just mentioning because someone might genuinely be confused

Oh and A1 and A2 have to do with random read/write in addition to raw speed, and is meant to indicate drives that work well with Android

[quasi pasture]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175753448634?
@fiery zephyr

[fiery zephyr]

Jeez

180

[jolly inlet]

+shipping
Bold of them to not even allow offers

[proper wagon]

Anyone spotted any good deals for a 32 inch 1440p? Gonna take back the element... comparing it to higher hz monitor made me realize the difference 😦

[grand orbit]

This looks decent
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hyhFf7/acer-xv320qu-lvbmiiphx-315-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-umjx0aav01

[pallid geyser]

although if going 1440p it’s typically recommended to go 27” due to pixel density

[grand orbit]

Nah pixel density on 32" is still higher than 24" 1080p iirc

Sorry the same*

[pallid geyser]

oh yeah I just mean 27” 1440 > 32” 1440 when it comes to pixel density but comes with a heftier price tag typically

[grand orbit]

Both have a ppi of 91.79

It just depends on how big the monitor they want

Usually 27" is cheaper

[pallid geyser]

Guess it depends on brand then the m27q is usually like $250+

But the dell s2721dgf drops to $180 time to time

[proper wagon]

Thank you guys for the help ❤️

[olive lance]

@plucky mauve stop posting things that are barely deals to promote referral links

[fair moon]

(nobody's going to buy them anyways, they just clog up the channel)

[olive lance]

https://tenor.com/view/puss-in-boots-big-jack-horner-jack-horner-ltg-low-tier-god-gif-27506804

Just ban, falls under self promo/ebegging rules

[fiery zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-skander-big-brother-gif-21303304

ok

WHAT NO

thats not what I was refering to

😭

[pallid geyser]

Jesus

[plucky mauve]

thank you, but I mean, it wasn't bad some deals, like the monitor, I've seen some 2k 165hz at 200+ and the one that I share was 170, another was some Corsair fans for 29, and the fans alone cost 23

But I totally understand, actually I send them with referral because I'm on my phone almost of the time, and when I click share, it automatically give my referral link

[tawdry dragon]

everything after the ? is useless and you can just cut it off

[plucky mauve]

Ok, I'll try using that way

Thank you very much

Yep

[grand orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-steve-carell-oh-my-god-its-happening-gif-17270692

The 30 series cards reached reasonable pricing

[molten halo]

[tawdry dragon]

Only 3 years late

[pallid geyser]

Don’t think I’ve even heard of that ghost game

[stoic crest]

The latest post doesn't even have proper link

Also I wouldn't say it's a deal imo

[cinder kiln]

That x3d deal is okay for a drop in upgrade, but a 7600 yields similar results if it's a new build

[shut lava]

I saw the comparison from Techspot last year with about 50 games where the 7600 was faster than the 5800X3d at both 1080p and 1440p.

[cinder kiln]

Yup, it just depends on the context of the build

7600+bz easy timings for example will clap a 5800x3d

Good ram goes a long way on ryzen, doubly so if you go beyond stock and tune it

[fiery zephyr]

Wtf man these ssds are wayyy too cheap now

I'm not used to this 😭

You literally have no excuse to complain about not having enough storage now

[stoic crest]

yep lol

[high radish]

I can't stop buying ssds

[stoic crest]

and no excuses for ssd being expensive

[high radish]

I can't stop buying ssds

I can't stop buying ssds

[fiery zephyr]

You literally have no excuse to complain about not having enough storage now

[high radish]

I can't stop buying ssds

I can't stop buying ssds

[fiery zephyr]

He can't stop buying ssds

[grand orbit]

He can't

Honestly @brazen fiber with the m450 being only 3$ more I don't see the point but i suppose super budget it's fine

[narrow bronze]

How does that Msi ssd match up speed wise to the wd 770sn?

[stoic crest]

If you're buying 770, you're better off buying p41 plus anyway

[azure pond]

^

Or xs70 at $115

Or p44 pro at $130

For 2tb drives

[narrow bronze]

gotcha thanks

[torpid night]

@azure pond bro let me upvote that SSD post

[unreal geode]

im trying to find a good price for it but

i found a apple monitor from the 80s at my local staples in the recycling bin

there might be a computer with it too further down but still

[pulsar fable]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-ice-water-i-dont-need-it-gif-14272849

[frail socket]

Y’all got me buying drives now 🥲

[trim pier]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074ZQXBBM?th=1

should I get this

I NEED A RESPONSE QUICK

IK FOR A FACT

ITS GONNA SELL OUT IN A MINUTE

@grand orbit ik you love thermalright but what's your opinion on thermaltake 😏

also I just realized how cheeks the GUI looks, like it's literally in the images

[grand orbit]

What price is it?

[trim pier]

47.10$ usd

[grand orbit]

Oh that's good

Ye go for it

[trim pier]

but did you even look into it

that's what the supposed software looks like..

[grand orbit]

It's an okay 280mm aio for 47$

Regular asetek pump but that price is imsanse

[azure pond]

Yeah as long as the aio isn't complete crap any 280mm is good for that price

I'm with pato here

I was about to just order one for my partners build but their case only supports 240mm

And not like a 3600 needs one, lol. Just looks nice

[trim pier]

@grand orbit @azure pond what is an asetek.. pump?

plus i’m trying to find benchmarks on it but i’m getting nothing

[azure pond]

It's the brand that makes the pump itself

It's used in a lot of aios

Arctic liquid freezer, I think EK, lian li galahad

Etc

[trim pier]

oooh i see.

[grand orbit]

Basically anything non deepcool, ek, lian li or arctic uses an asetek

[azure pond]

So I could not have been more wrong lol

I know evga CLC does

[trim pier]

i’m guessing asetek is just a decent pump then

[grand orbit]

So corsair, nzxt etc etc all use asetek pumps

They're fine

[grand orbit]

All these brands have better ones

But nothing can beat it for that price

[trim pier]

i see

it’s probably gonna be an impulsive buy considering i’m using a pa120 se on a 13600k at 1080p

but i'm still a bit sketched about the fans and the software tbh, practically the whole thing

[fair moon]

Just because a piece of software looks visually bad doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't work well

[trim pier]

well true, but reading into the reviews though it seems like it’s a bit of a mess

[fair moon]

Ah

I mean it's Amazon so you can always just return it within 30 days

Then again you already have the 120se which is a great air cooler

[trim pier]

mhm

i wonder if it comes with thermal paste

ik i had to repaste my cpu so i’m out

[fair moon]

Probably has some preapplied on the coldplate

[trim pier]

true

and i wonder if it’s a good idea to replace the fans, i could just have armory crate control the speed and color

[fair moon]

If you already have fans you could do that, but if you're buying fans to replace with there might be other aios to consider for the price ($47 + 2 decent addressable RGB fans)

Arctic bstock on ebay has some good deals, not sure if they're rgb though

[trim pier]

thermaltake TL's?

thermalright*

oh wait nvm, those are 120's

[grand orbit]

All rgb software is a mess in one way or another, it's probably supported by openrgb tho

[grand orbit]

All coolers come with a tube, packet or preapplied

And for fan speed, bios is just best

[trim pier]

alr

[trim pier]

so I do hook it up to my mobo/fan hub

(my fan hub is linked with mobo)

[grand orbit]

The pwm (for fan speed) yes, the rgb idk

Probably an rgb header or it comes with a hub idk rgb is too complicated so i avoid it

[azure pond]

I've got a 280mm with an asetek pump on mine

It stays around 50-55c for gaming, under 80c with multi core loads

[trim pier]

ah

[azure pond]

A pa 120 se would do the job fine tho

Or ps120 se, ft120, silver soul 110/120 (I forget the name), ak620, ag620

And a few others by thermalright

[shut lava]

I post the lowest price the 7800X3d has been since it was released and it gets mostly downvotes? Almost all of the reviews say its the best gaming CPU ever released.

[trim pier]

ah alr

[stoic crest]

AM5 as a whole isn't great value yet

But tbh

$400 for that is decent

You can still get like $120 board and it will run the cpu more than adequately

[cinder kiln]

It's still halo tier

[stoic crest]

I want it to reach $350 imo but that's me

[cinder kiln]

It'll be 350 eventually

Getting harder and harder to ignore zen 4

Typical amd lately, good after the sales starts

[stoic crest]

$350 7800x3d+$120 asrock b650

ez

[jolly inlet]

Considering 7700X is almost down to $300, about $350 for the X3D is fairly reasonable

[stoic crest]

below $500 for speedy gamer cpu

with board

[jolly inlet]

Microcenter has a deal with 7900X, board, and memory for $550

7700X instead is $450

[shut lava]

I sort of look at it a different way when determining "value." The 7800X3D only about $100 more than the 5800X3D and the 5800X3D loses to the 7600 most of the time in gaming benchmarks. While the 5800X3d is the "best gaming CPU" on the market right now. The 5800X3D is a dead end and a AM5 setup has plenty of room for future growth. Less than a year ago the 5800X3d for $400 gwas upvoted into space a few times. So if someone is building a new PC I don't see how its a bad deal that deserves to be downvoted by everyone.

[stoic crest]

Not really, when sometimes microcenter has amazing bundles

[shut lava]

Maybe its the economy too. 9 or 10 months ago a 5800X3D was an amazing value, but not a $400 CPU isn't.

[stoic crest]

Afaik, I remember seeing $400 7800x3d bundles

[shut lava]

Microcenter prices are only valid for maybe half of the US populations icne they don't ship their deals.

[stoic crest]

Yes, but it is a deal regardless

Besides, 5800X3D wasn't all that favored when it launched with high asking price too

Only once it started dropping price people really wanted em

[shut lava]

I can't find any record of 7800X3D bundles for anywhere close to $400. There is a reddit post for a month ago about a $600 7800X3D Bundle.

[stoic crest]

Well then my memory isn't exactly serving me lol

[cinder kiln]

The thing with the 7800x3d is while it's good, a smart person with a 13600K can get very close to it

If it was in a league of it's own then 400 would be a nicer price but, as it is right now it's still a halo product

[stoic crest]

Upgrade path comes into play as counter argument

[cinder kiln]

Yeah but raptor refresh exists

So invalid point

[stoic crest]

But tbf, I wouldn't buy into that unless it offers decent value anyway

You could say stuff like 2700x to 5700x will happen

But is it really saving that much money lol

[cinder kiln]

As far as halo prices go, 400$ makes a lot of sense

Don't get me wrong

[jolly inlet]

The 5-10% boost we'll see on that will push it over the edge to beat the 7800X3D, barely

[cinder kiln]

You can get that with a good tune and board anyway

[jolly inlet]

Exactly

Which you can't exactly do without some tweaking on the X3D

[cinder kiln]

You can still get a bit of gain on AM5

Much more on non x3d

Put it this way, if I can get the same or similar gaming experience on a 13700K instead, that's where I'd put my money's worth

But that said you have other costs around a 13700K like a better cooler and/or psu

So each scenario is different

But if you have any need for multicore that gain is enormous

Like someone on a limited budget for "best of the best" 7800x3d has been in a number of build recc's lately

[shut lava]

One thing I noticed is that many people overstate their absolute need for multicore performance. I noticed that talking with people about their PC build plans. The typical things like such as, "I stream and game and run TeamSpeak, so I need a 13900K" or "I sometimes edit and encode my game recordings to upload to YouTube so I need that 7950X3D."

[cinder kiln]

Absolutely, going beyond i5's nowadays make little sense for the layman

But value proposition is always something we need to stay conscious about

[shut lava]

I often bring up that unless you are doing something CPU intensive professionally with deadlines, that extra 40 seconds rendering/encoding your YouTube edit won't make a life changing difference.

[cinder kiln]

I didn't downvote the x3d deal but I'm also not gonna upvote it as it's a halo product

Like if someone posted a $1500 deal for a 4090 I'd feel the same way

"neat" lol

[jolly inlet]

Even though most of that is done on the GPU anyway 💀

[shut lava]

If there was a major deal on a 13900K, I'd still upvote it even though tis a halo product. A dead is a deal at any price range.

[cinder kiln]

i9 almost always has never made sense

It's always in that upper bracket, it always has ridiculous needs, and pushes a budget way above scope for the gains, you need a really good reason for i9 imo

[jolly inlet]

It almost made sense back on the 9900K because it enabled HT. So the artificial market segmentation forced you to get 9900K if you needed 16 threads instead of 8.

[quasi pasture]

11900k best cpu. totally makes sense to buy

[cinder kiln]

It goes double for not making sense* for the 13900k specifically cos that thing can pull well over 400W at sane levels of voltage

[molten halo]

5800x3d kings and queens

[fiery zephyr]

so true

[jolly inlet]

Separate GPU and CPU power supply is almost a requirement considering how expensive the higher power stuff is. Get 2 650W ones for less than a 1300W.

[cinder kiln]

Eh I mean, you can run it on a 1000W even with a 4090

Just make sure it's a good psu

Definitely on the limit

[jolly inlet]

Sure, just don't load both fully at the same time and introduce spikes on top unless it's an ATX 3.0 unit.

[cinder kiln]

I suppose

[jolly inlet]

Not just "ATX 3.0 ready" either, actually rated units which I haven't seen yet lol

All the outlets I'm aware of are still trying to figure out how to validate the new spec for load spikes

[cinder kiln]

It's more like, if you intend to pump that much wattage into that i9 anyway you aren't doing normal things lol

[jolly inlet]

True lol

[cinder kiln]

It's a bit of a grey area

[shut lava]

One PSU per GPU also works well.

[jolly inlet]

1kW vbios moment

[shut lava]

They rarely draw over 700 watts each when gaming though. lol

[jolly inlet]

Microcenter needs to learn to read the room a bit

[shut lava]

I saw this pic of a microcenter where they didn't bother locking them up.

the 7600s

nobody wants to steal them I guess. lol

[light bay]

Hella risky

[jolly inlet]

They didn't bother opening early for the 4060 ti either. One store had exactly one buyer on launch day.

[fiery zephyr]

Just swipe it bro

[light bay]

My Walmart has zip ties behind locked shelves... Lol

[fiery zephyr]

Grab it up and put that john in yo back pocket

[cinder kiln]

Some stores have refused to order more 4060Ti's over the bad reception

And it gets worse when 3060Ti's are nearing $300

Just zero sense to go next-gen

[jolly inlet]

bUt DlSs 3.0

[jolly inlet]

Probably won't even stop you, it's better they claim it as a loss from theft than hold on to it for 6 months until they have to sell at a loss

[fiery zephyr]

LOLL

Dont give me any ideas

[jolly inlet]

(for legal reasons I'm kidding)

[quasi pasture]

yea how do you think i got my x99 and x79 boards lol

[fiery zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/real-and-true-lightskin-agreement-gif-25487093

[jolly inlet]

Straight outta the ewaste

[quasi pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/ailisnotgay-reload-anim-modern-warfare-gun-gif-1911-gif-20444052

[fiery zephyr]

Yeah he goes dumpster diving behind ncix

[cinder kiln]

Ssg team wegg

Far main support behind seby king

[shut lava]

I saw the conversation elsewhere about dumpster diving being illegal in some places, but its never enforced when it is illegal. EDIT: unless you are homeless.

[cinder kiln]

You can't have a hero without the dumpster divers behind you

[jolly inlet]

That's often true but a lot of places have policies that the employees have to destroy any potentially valuable stuff when they toss it

I know Costco used to have to slash the screens on all the big screen returns after the super bowl

[shut lava]

Someone who worked at one fo the major chain department stores said they just tossed stuff that didn't sell and didn't damage it.

I never tried it, but some people claimed to get some good finds or electronics parts to repair other electronics.

[jolly inlet]

Slightly off topic but... I miss radioshack. There's nowhere near me that sells components like they did any more.

[shut lava]

I miss radioshack also. However my need for most of the components they sell has also declined.

[jolly inlet]

My need has only increased 💀

Now I can't buy individual caps any more, I have to buy a 20 pack just to use 2.

[light holly]

Me who got a floor display 50" Samsung 4k TV for $40 at Walmart because they said the right side of the panel was fading.. which it really wasn't, but the clerk was convinced so I didn't argue.

[jolly inlet]

That reminds me, I got a floor model 23" 1080p 60Hz TV for $120 back in 2011 at Best Buy. It's still used daily. The side buttons don't work right any more but the remote does so it's good. One of my best investments I think.

My mom still used our old 720p TV last I checked from 2006. The cable guy had trouble installing several years back and I had to tell him "it's not 1080p" lol

[light holly]

That's funny

[jolly inlet]

Speaking of overclocking X3D @cinder kiln
https://youtu.be/pUjUKKXRiFk

External clock gen ftw

[grand orbit]

Probably because of the x3d cpus literally dying

[shut lava]

A bad motherboard BIOS that delivers voltages out of spec doesn't make the CPU a bad deal.

[quasi pasture]

some people dont know how to think independently. they see popular YT video and think "oh, this bad now".

thats how it seems sometimes anyway

[grand orbit]

I'm just thinking of reasons, it'd definitely give me a not so trusting feeling tbh, it shouldn't be downvoted that much imo but imo it's just okay

[grand orbit]

Or just ppl that are less tech literate

[quasi pasture]

yes, those are the people who tend to do that

[grand orbit]

Or confident in their tech skills

[quasi pasture]

the two combine sometimes lol

confindently incompetent 🥱

LITERALLY EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES THAT DDR3 > DDR5

[umbral horizon]

Idk my friends ddr3 computer seems able to keep playing games it shouldnt

Playing things like cyberpunk at launch with no issues, rts/4x games with ridiculous unit counts

[grand orbit]

It still works it's just slow and will bottlneck a modern gpu

[fiery zephyr]

It was going so well untill you added this part bro😭

[brisk sphinx]

Anyone got a good deal on 2Tb NVMEs? Preferably Gen4. Want to buy 3 of them

Maybe 4

[azure pond]

P41 plus, p44 pro, xs70

[stoic crest]

gen 4? p41 plus ftw

no need for pro imo but not a bad choice

[brisk sphinx]

How does it compare to that MSI one in #tech-deals

[slow sluice]

Digikey?

Shipping can be a bit steep if you're only buying one component, but they have pretty much any component you could ever want in any reasonable quantity

[azure pond]

If you're doing workstation tasks that benefit from high speed nvmes, p44 pro or xs70 100% of the time

If you just want gen 4 to have gen 4, p41 plus

If you just want a 1tb drive, the one in tech deals is fine

[brisk sphinx]

Now just food for thought, Gen 5?

Yay or nay?

[cinder kiln]

Nay

I can think of 5 people on this planet that could actually use it properly

[brisk sphinx]

Even if I’m already throwing unnecessary money into this PC?

[stoic crest]

Yeah no

Gen 5 is too expensive and is needless for most

[azure pond]

The cheapest I've seen one was I think $370 for a 2tb

Straight up pointless

[jolly inlet]

Nah it's the same cost as the 20 pack on amazon after shipping. As much as I hate giving Bezos more money it's the fastest option too.

It's more the convenience of Radioshack and such I miss. I can't just get a component I need the same day I need it any more.

[brisk sphinx]

If P44 pro and Samsung 980 pro are the same price, which is the better option?

[brisk sphinx]

Also I can get this for $180 https://www.microcenter.com/product/666002/inland-td510-1tb-3d-tlc-nand-pcie-gen-5-x-4-nvme-m2-internal-ssd

[jolly inlet]

Neither. This is the same S tier. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09F5W62N8

[pulsar fable]

Damn 120 for a drive like that?

[brisk sphinx]

It’s faster than them?

[jolly inlet]

Right? Drives be crazy these days

[brisk sphinx]

Thanks

[pulsar fable]

I remember when getting a 970 evo plus for $160 was a great deal

that was only last year

[compact bluff]

how much do i sell my 3060 ti i had it for 5 months

[jolly inlet]

It's the same tier as the 980 Pro without worrying about it spontaneously dying

[brisk sphinx]

980 pro can spontaneously die?

[pulsar fable]

You could give it to us for free
This is just a joke. I don't know much about the used market after the 5700xt

[pulsar fable]

Bad firmware from what news outlets have said*

[jolly inlet]

They go for $260-300 right now

[jolly inlet]

A series of bad firmwares at that

That's why the 980 pro is so cheap now, people are avoiding it entirely lol

[brisk sphinx]

Makes sense lol

It’s like $130 for a 2TB one

[pulsar fable]

A series of bad firmwares? Yikes I thought it was the one

[brisk sphinx]

Imma get two of those acers and against good judgement I’ll get that inland Gen 5 drive

$180 for a 2tb gen 5 ain’t bad imo

[jolly inlet]

It started with one version that would suddenly lose a LOT of performance, then the next 2 versions were the ones that were pretending to write themselves to death. After that was the supposedly fixed version.

[azure pond]

I wouldn't spend $120 for that, let alone 180, with top end gen 4 ssds being 120 for 2tb

[azure pond]

That's 1tb, atleast from the link you shared

[jolly inlet]

Yeah gen 5 has no tangible benefit over gen 4 for any use case currently, short of servers with tons of drives

(since running a gen 5 at x2 is the same bandwidth as gen 4 x4)

[brisk sphinx]

Ahh damn, I thought it was 2tb

Nah I ain’t spending $180 for a 1TB

[jolly inlet]

Almost triple the cost per TB for it to go from a theoretical max of 7400MB/s to 9000MB/s 💀

We need to start measuring these in GB/s apparently, it's getting out of hand

Oh my mistake, the 2TB Inland drive is 10GB/s not 9 like the 1TB model

Not that it makes any real difference

[pulsar fable]

What? Of course you need 10GB/s to load GTA 0.1 seconds faster

sarcasm

[jolly inlet]

No no, not Gb, GB

[pulsar fable]

Blame autocorrect

[jolly inlet]

Fair enough

[pulsar fable]

Still tho I barely even use the bandwidth of gen 3x4. How am I supposed to saturate 5x4?

[jolly inlet]

I guess it's an incomprehensible speed for your autocorrect so it thought "you MUST mean bits right?"

[pulsar fable]

My autocorrect knows the first 151 pokemon and various YouTubers but still doesn't know a lot

[jolly inlet]

You aren't, until you do more than just gaming, light video editing, etc

[grand orbit]

Highly depends on your country

[fair moon]

How long you had it doesn't really matter either

Moreso the conditions you were using it in

[shut lava]

I tried a 3770K system with SLI/NVLink 3090s to see hwo it woudl work. It was lower FPS, but playable. Port Royal scores went form 31,000 to under 29,000.

[umbral horizon]

It's also so full of dust and tobacco oil it looks like the grime is going to become sentient and attack

It's like the old man who smoked for 60 years and never got cancer, still kickin

[grand orbit]

@high radish idk if it just expired but newegg usually has the codes on the product page and it's not there?

[high radish]

code works

I used it

[grand orbit]

Ah weird it's not on the page

Nice find

[high radish]

Code shows in 12600k page but not in combo page

Same comes for 12700k and 12900k . Codes for them works on combos as well

[grand orbit]

Ah it's probably applying seperate to 12600k then

[high radish]

Yeah

its lower than 12400f + b660 price

[compact bluff]

USA Texas brand new 355 dollars

[grand orbit]

You might be able to get 250 for it

[jolly inlet]

$275 on a good day, $300 if the buyer is, let's say uninformed.

[brisk sphinx]

Just bought them, thanks

[marsh sphinx]

Maybe maybe maybe

[high radish]

Can't believe missed this one

it was 265$ after code

[grand orbit]

Shame, looks like it's ddr5 too

[high radish]

yeah it is

[high radish]

Microcenter sux

[torpid night]

L take tbh

[quasi pasture]

microcenter overrated

[high radish]

No shipping and most items are oos in stores bearby

We are living in 2023 even pizza shops have delivery so . Market without delivery not makes sense

[trim pier]

i mean it actually makes sense why microcenter doesn’t deliver.

plus just skill issue, just live in america 🥱

[trim pier]

what i mean is that people can easily say “it never arrived” and steal who knows how much $$$ worth of pc parts , plus their stuff on their website is what they have in warehouses and spread throughout their stores, and not sold from 3rd parties

so if they ever started shipping more items, they’d probably have to bump up the price so they don’t become like NJ/California Microcenter or start allowing 3rd parties sell on their site

[high radish]

I do . But still not makes sense to drive 2hours just to get pc parts lol or get "sorry item is not in stock" lol

[shut spoke]

I can’t complain anymore since one is opening soon in indy

Wish there was one in every state though

[brisk sphinx]

Delivery = bots buying out the stock immediately

[fiery zephyr]

(B)uying (O)ut (T)he (S)tock

[high radish]

So get more stock

[shut lava]

Order online for in store pickup

[high radish]

after gas prices and sales tax and wasted work hours it comes same price as other retailers

[pulsar fable]

Micro center slander detected

[slow sluice]

What do you mean even pizza shops

[mint wedge]

Can someone check this for me, I asked FSP if they could match the price on amazon since they ship faster to me than newegg, and it looks like they added a 25 coupon? Was wondering if it was able to yall as well. https://www.amazon.com/FSP-Modular-10-Year-Warranty-HG2-750/dp/B0849R2S2S

[light holly]

yep.

[mint wedge]

Cool I will just leave it here in case other want to order it from amazon instead

[mint wedge]

Thank you for posting that <3

[grand orbit]

That's what tracking shipping is for lol

[grand orbit]

You have to post a direct link no link shorteners @uncut remnant

[trim pier]

i mean it isn’t?

[uncut remnant]

oh mb

[trim pier]

it could arrive at my doorstep, have the tracked shipping n everything filled out but say it’s not there

unless they have an image of it on my doorstep like what amazon does, you’d get away with it on customer support

[grand orbit]

Literally every other online retailer deals with it it's not that hard

[daring depot]

Welp...I'm never posting a link from my phone again

Anyone here got a bias against Asus g14?

[jolly inlet]

This is where that deleted link went https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-zephyrus-14-wqxga-120hz-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-16gb-ddr5-memory-amd-radeon-rx-6700s-1tb-pcie-4-0-ssd/6494638.p?skuId=6494638

[cinder kiln]

Gorgeous

[stoic crest]

6700s, not bad

7600s zeph when

[cinder kiln]

It has ryzen 6000

6900H or better

[stoic crest]

ofc ye

probably an hs sku but yep

[cinder kiln]

6900hs

Yeah

[daring depot]

I would buy that PC in a heartbeat now, but I already have 3 different laptops

Gotta sell my old one first. This thing is a beaut

[light bay]

heh, best buy knows whats up with that laptop

[light holly]

Is this link broken for anyone else?
https://www.amazon.com/FSP-Modular-10-Year-Warranty-HG2-750/dp/B0849R2S2S

nvm. Amazon was being weird

[high radish]

Link works but price isn't good lol

[flat junco]

Well. At least it got here in time

[keen gust]

someone ban that Pato guy for including account referral links in his newegg listings in #tech-deals

#tech-deals message

And they arent really deals, those things are always that price

[grand orbit]

no they havent been that price in the while

[grand orbit]

@azure pond mwe is b tier btw

[jolly inlet]

It's not MWE though

The one linked is A tier

[grand orbit]

Ah my b

[swift forge]

Is this a good deal?

[jolly inlet]

One like this

BuT oLeD

Totally doubles the value right there

[cinder kiln]

@jolly inlet nyoooooo

They're worth 100 at best 💀

[jolly inlet]

I know I know

[cinder kiln]

6600 is only 30 more

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/D9ytt6/asrock-radeon-rx-6600-8-gb-challenger-d-video-card-rx6600-cld-8g

[jolly inlet]

Compared to similar performance GPUs it's ok at least. If you're on a super tight budget that $30 adds up.

It's cheaper than the 1050 at least

[tawdry dragon]

Used 1070

[cinder kiln]

I mean I'd steal an optiplex off the street and stick a 6600 in it

If I was that desperate

Suppose you could do the same with a 6500xt

But cringe

[tiny heron]

There is a RTX 2060 on evga bstock for $160 rn

[jolly inlet]

That would be a better buy yes

[stoic crest]

Way better buy

[keen marsh]

imagine how good the 6500 XT if they didn't give it all 3 nerfs.

4gb VRAM, x4 pcie 4.0 and still requiring a power connector. tsk tsk.

[stoic crest]

Wouldn't really help it still

It was like based on the crap 6500M laptop gpu

[turbid locust]

I wonder how well arc a380s doing now

When I benched it a few months ago it was doing okay

[jolly inlet]

Arc in general is getting a bit better but the A380 is still pretty far down the list of recommendations. I'd only use it as a roblox gpu at most, with a bonus that it can encode/decode AV1.

[jolly inlet]

Payday 3 was coming out soon wasn't it? They've given away 2 for free on Steam and other platforms before, I'd guess they're doing it free on Epic to generate hype.

[grand orbit]

Especially with the a750 dipping to 190 iirc

[trim pier]

how does the intel graphixs cards go

like weakest to powerful

[grand orbit]

A380,a750,a770

[cloud hornet]

Funny that based on all the news I thought MSRP changed to $200, but it was only a sale for $200.

[grand orbit]

Unfortunately not

[fiery zephyr]

https://a.co/d/1h5ROUl

Damn they're getting cheap

Unless I'm just behind

@grand orbit is this normal?

[grand orbit]

The price? What is it? Amazon links are a pain in the ass if you're not in the country they're designed for

[fiery zephyr]

Oh sorry

260

Shipped by amazon

[grand orbit]

Idk if it's just a deal or what but 260 was at bb the other day too

[fiery zephyr]

ohhh

cool

[grand orbit]

But opposed to a few days ago

It was like 290

Ish

[stoic crest]

ooo

Focus 2 rgb back at $60

Good case with lots of gpu space

[grave delta]

https://slickdeals.net/f/16706537-18-25-oz-planters-deluxe-whole-cashews-w-sea-salt-7-58-w-s-s-free-shipping-w-prime-or-on-orders-over-25

[fiery zephyr]

Great deal

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-ONE-18V-Cordless-6-Tool-Combo-Kit-with-1-5-Ah-Battery-4-0-Ah-Battery-and-Charger-PCL1600K2/317987591?irgwc=1&cm_mmc=afl-ir-10451-483420-&clickid=ztKzzX0jgxyPTG3XYMyAHTUcUkF0qexdsSR8UU0
Damn ryobi, I mean theyre not the best models but still for the average person thats great for 200

They changed their battery design I dont like it lol

[cinder kiln]

Wtf focus 2 for $50

[kind rover]

me buying a fractal torrent for almost $200

[fiery zephyr]

LOL

[light holly]

Honey roasted or bust

[jolly inlet]

Why the downvotes? @uncut remnant and @polar terrace
Just curious why you think it's a bad deal

[uncut remnant]

its not above 165 hz

[jolly inlet]

The difference between 144 and 165 is imperceptible to most humans, but ok you're entitled to your opinion

[uncut remnant]

dude calm down.

[jolly inlet]

I meant that genuinely, not sarcastically

I know tone is hard to convey through text

[cinder kiln]

There aren't a lot of review-friendly 1440p screens at the 190-240 bracket

G27Q is still holding ground there

[jolly inlet]

Especially not any that are IPS at that price

Cheapest IPS 1440p 240Hz is $350 right now

[stoic crest]

that high of refresh with lower price bracket on 1440p that's actually decent is hard to get

240hz you're looking at 1080p

[polar terrace]

Yeah, idk. it is solid, but there are frequently high refresh 1440p monitors for about 200, just didn't seem like a stelar deal.

[stoic crest]

Unreviewed though

[jolly inlet]

Those ones for $200 are usually VA panels too

Which can be fine if $30 will bust the budget

[polar terrace]

Yeah, I mean I got mine for 150, 1440p 165hz 27" with a VA. It seems good to me, but I am no monitor junkie

Got the 50% off NZXT monitors when they discontined them.

[stoic crest]

That's one of those rare cases tbh

[polar terrace]

yeah for sure

never expect to see a deal like that again

until the tech is real outdated, at least

[jolly inlet]

Can't wait until OLED gets that clearance treatment

[polar terrace]

lol for sure

But I would be curious to find out what can replace it enough to make that happen

I mean we are already pretty solidly at the edges of human perception for the most high-end displays, in res, color accuracy, and refresh rate.

my guess is monitors in general will get phased out before we see the top-of-the-line stuff of today become truly affordable

in favor of some sort of augmented realty VR. The "endless" screen real estate is pretty nice sounding.

[jolly inlet]

I remember getting the Playstation Magazine subscription back in the day when Gamestop membership included that. In one issue they predicted we'd have thought controlled VR pods for the PS5, and this was when the PS2 was current. It's scary how close we are to that.

[stoic crest]

apple vision pro is one of those best examples tbh

ignoring the steep price tag

[jolly inlet]

Apple's headset is an example of adding features just because until the thing is out of reach for average consumers

I don't even know who their target market is for that thing

People with thousands of dollars to spend and want a VR gaming headset I guess, since they have Wine now on Apple.

[stoic crest]

that's true lol

quest 3 is way more affordable

even tho it has raised price

[jolly inlet]

I'm guessing it's another Apple thing. You get it for the social status and then never use the features it actually does have.

[grand orbit]

It's because i posted it 3 days ago /s

[grand orbit]

Those where insane once in a lifetime deals

[jolly inlet]

Funny thing is Fitz downvoted yours and upvoted mine lol

[grand orbit]

Wack

Bias

@keen gust explain yourself

[keen gust]

Ref link vs not

[grand orbit]

Lol

[tawdry dragon]

It's a decent deal, but personally if you don't need a high quality panel just get a cheap off brand one for a lot less

[light holly]

yeah, and then spend more than you would have on the known good panel when you have to buy another one because the cheap one you bought took a crap on you.

[tawdry dragon]

I used crap panel monitors all my life and the only one that failed lasted 8 years

[light holly]

I'm sorry for your loss

[prisma mortar]

but if it's a decent deal, then why would you downvote it

it doesn't really matter if there are cheaper options, which are worse,

[shut lava]

Gigabyte's warranty/RMA service is basically useless/worthless in North America in my experience. I always take that into account with their prices.

[cinder kiln]

The most success I've heard from Gigabyte RMA is myself tbh

I've had two successful cases, and everything else has been fine apart from my own stupid ideas contributing damage

But I don't know anyone else with this nice of an experience

[shut lava]

Between my own PC, family members' PCs, and a friend's PC, I've had 5 bad experiences with their RMA department. I have some other friends who had similar bad experiences.

I also had a couple bad experiences with Gigabyte RMAs a long time ago with both desktop PC parts and server/workstation parts and its obvious they never improved.

Between that and all of the shady things I've seen covered by various tech media in relation to Warranty/RMA/Refurbished products over the past 10 years, I stopped buying their products.

[cinder kiln]

I still buy their stuff

And one thing I will die on a hill for is that recent gigabyte monitors especially have been very good

Got a lot of experience with them

I can understand the pain of denied warranty though

[shut lava]

Its not jsut denied warranty. They have send items back that were damaged by Gigabyte employees at the RMA center and they denied doing it. The one manager at the RMA center called me a liar and said I was phtoshopping photos to make them look bad.

When I ship anything expensive with shipping insurance, I take photos of it right before I pack it up. When I received a motherboard back form RMA repair with a scratch down the back of it, that wasn't there in the photos before I shipped it, I contacted them and was called a liar.

Another time, I shipped in a motherboard with an approved RMA with the RMA number outside of the box as the instructions said. It arrived at their RMA center and the same day they slapped a new shipping label on it to return it to me without opening the box.

I know they didn't open the box because my shipping label wasn't cut and it was over the tape holding the box shut. They slapped their shipping label right on top of mine. They said it was their mistake, but I had to pay shipping twice for that RAM and I received a defective replacement product. So I had to pay shipping yet again to get a working replacement.

I could go on with more examples too, but I've never had a positive experience with them and most of the time I never received a fully functioning product back from their RMA service the first time.

[cinder kiln]

Well my experience is I had a DOA ssd, that died down to less than a HDD's speed on a new system, got that replaced and got one that's still probably my fastest gen 4 hands down. Some god bin of a 1st gen gen 4
The other was my monitor, had the backlight power cable die on it after 1.5 years and it needed replacing, sent it in, 6 weeks later it finally comes back, good as new, haven't had the issue since

So I'm sorry for your loss but like I said, I can understand the pain and relenting anything to do with it, but like everything there's always bad employees and brands and management in every facet so it's just a matter of where and when

For me, Australian gigabyte service has been overall, good. I've had worse times with other brands, and I'm familiar I'm very unique in that

We could talk instead about how I had to pay for my Intel chips, or how my Xbox experience has been Tier 1 garbage in comparison

There exists bad and good in all brands

And I'm not defending Gigabyte for that, I know their RMA department isn't good, at least in the US. It's well documented

Hell I just remembered the PG850GM I replaced as well under warranty due to the OCP going nuts. It was one of the defect units, got my warranty completely covered for

[shut lava]

Maybe Gigabyte's service quality varies and is better in different parts of the world. I could understand 1 or 2 bad experiences being unlucky, but 5 bad experiences in more recent times plus bad experiences 10+ years ago shows its a long term and common issue with Gigabyte North America's Warranty/RMA department. That's why I can't consider any Gigabyte products being worth much because I consider them sold without warranty.

[cinder kiln]

That's fair tho

As I said I can understand that

MSI here is garbage though

Wouldn't replace my unify so I had to buy another board, later on though I was lucky cos I found out the board in question still worked

It just depends where you are

That's a z690 unify x btw

[jolly inlet]

I had to send my MSI motherboard in 3 times before they would replace it. The memory just borked one day. It stopped loading XMP profiles and it couldn't run memory past 3333. I still have no idea what caused it but hey I got a X570 with wifi out of my old basic X470.

[cinder kiln]

Had a huge amount of issues in my first build with it

Ya, like, MSI is good in the US

It's different in different places

[jolly inlet]

MSI was only good about accepting the warranty. They were awful about actually repairing it. As far as I could tell all they did was flash another bios version (which prevented my 5800X from booting, and I specifically told them that would happen but they did it twice). They didn't even check if the problem was solved before shipping it back, missing pieces ofc.

I had to spend $50 on the shipping costs alone for the 3 RMAs

Not to mention being unable to use my PC for almost 3 months.

[cinder kiln]

We could talk about my experience with Razer

How they

broke my phone

And then charged me to fix it

[shut lava]

Between my own PC's helping friends and family and building a few custom PCs a year for customers, Gigabyte has been the only company that I've had regular warranty/RMA issues with in the US. Asus has been surprizingly good the past few years. They had very fast RMA service and I receive new products as replacements most of the time. I haven't had many issues with MSI that required RMA service.

[cinder kiln]

I had no option 2

I could take back the destroyed phone or buy a refurb

[cinder kiln]

And while yeah Asus is normally good that's not a consistent story with everyone

I've seen and known a number of people where they've been just as terrible about warranty claims as any other brand

My point is that all brands can have that nasty streak, hell even Newegg did before (If I'm allowed to mention it)

[jolly inlet]

Yes you're allowed to talk about it lol

It's a black mark on their record but we called them out for it publicly here

[shut lava]

Asus accepted a warranty/RMA replacement on a motherboard I used for XOC with dry ice that had liquid electrical tape and conformal costing on it along with some missing heat sinks. Either they don't check items when they are shipped in or they don't care.

[cinder kiln]

I think that was a good thing tbh, we haven't really had any complaints since then

[cinder kiln]

XOC they're lenient about

[stoic crest]

I like asus warranty here

[cinder kiln]

And Asus is a special case about that

[stoic crest]

Killed mobo in a prebuilt, they accpet it no questions asked

Got new mobo back lmao

[cinder kiln]

I know guys who rma their asus crap cos they got bad bins

And succeed

[shut lava]

EVGA was also really lenient about XOC with graphcis cards. RIP EVGA graphcis cards.

[cinder kiln]

Yeah evga is another one

It's a lot of factors

[stoic crest]

EVGA left just before the 4060ti mess, I guess it's their luck

[cinder kiln]

Management, employees, work environment and attitude, policies

[jolly inlet]

I think Asus runs on the mindset that it costs them more to try and fix a difficult problem than it does to simply replace a product. Which is correct usually.

[cinder kiln]

And that's where I think Gigabyte does deserve the bad rep for it

[stoic crest]

I prefer that even if it's just saving em money

[cinder kiln]

They can gimme the 1K board or card and the kid could be lying, but him blasting reddit and twitter and everyone under the sun if you're wrong hurts them way more

[stoic crest]

Gimme replacements for some odd reasons that are genuine accidents and am ok

[cinder kiln]

Ya

[stoic crest]

That's what I call actual warranty

Waiting for repairs also sucks

[jolly inlet]

That's pretty much what happened with the weights in the 4090 box. It was extremely suspicious but Newegg had no proof they were lying. All the bad publicity took its toll, and they basically had to pay the guy to shut up by sending a new 4090.

[cinder kiln]

Pretty much

Companies underestimate the value of an individual and the damage they can do to a brand when wronged

Even if they're a liar

And you'd be dumb not to support the liar in that situation as it gives companies a precedent if they're right to do it again, and good luck changing that in the future

Consumer politics go crazy

[shut lava]

Even though many people call them the evil empire, Amazon has great warranty service if you don't abuse it.

Most companies probably can't afford to be like Amazon when it comes to product issues and repalcements.

[jolly inlet]

Yeah just recently there was a listing for a 20 pack of HDDs for the price of 1. It was obviously a listing error, but anyone that bought it basically got a free HDD out of it.

[stoic crest]

They can if they're already at a bigger scale like say, Gigabyte, Asus and such

Failures aren't common unless the product has a genuine issue

I'm certain they allocate an amount of stock for rma purposes

[cinder kiln]

Amazon has the right attitude though. They're so big and it costs them so little now that it's mostly down to the vendor

[stoic crest]

ye

[cinder kiln]

They can be generous about it and people don't generally abuse it

Most people got better things to do lol

[jolly inlet]

Those giants definitely reserve some stock for RMAs. I've seen a brand new EVGA 2080 ti card recently that was a warranty replacement.

[shut lava]

Back when the pandemic shortages were happening, I ended up getting lucky and buying a new XBOX on Newegg. UPS delivered it to the wrong address and I never received it. I was home when it said it was delivered and the app notified me that it was delivered. There wasn't even a UPS truck on my street at the time. Newegg made me file a police report and send them copies of the police report before I could get a refund or replacement.

[cinder kiln]

I've had that happen before

[shut lava]

I almost felt like it was a false police report because it wasn't stolen from me, it was delivered to the wrong address.

[cinder kiln]

However also with Amazon, Amazon sent another one

💀

(Not xbox but ya know)

I've had things delivered next door or up the street by mistake

It's all possible

[jolly inlet]

Amazon is usually good about replacing things immediately if it's under $50. More than that and they make you jump a couple hoops.

[shut lava]

With Amazon here, if an item sent to the wrong address, they send me a new one no questions asked. Their delivery people take a picture of the packages at the front door usually and its obvious when its not my house.

[stoic crest]

I never got such incidents happen to me before

[cinder kiln]

We could talk about how I paid to repair my xbox one x for the same problem three times

Then I fixed it myself for pennies

And never had the issue again

💀💀💀

[jolly inlet]

I love when Amazon support tells me to go trespass on other people's property and look at their packages to see if they got mine 💀

I almost got shot doing that

[cinder kiln]

Or the many elite controllers from xbox that had an average lifespan of 3 months

Not just me but many of my teammates

[stoic crest]

Jeez

[jolly inlet]

The only thing that saved me was they actually had my package and they checked the name

[cinder kiln]

Or the xbox gear that literally feels like it came from the discount bin and worth $40

Like, all brands have these bad streaks

The internet has just dragged them out into the spotlight

Now we get good basic gear from xbox

And you don't get those basic failures as much either

The series x and s are well designed, not prone to hotspots and death after long sessions like the one was

The headsets are excellent albeit not too cheap

[stoic crest]

Controllers have honestly dropped in quality

[cinder kiln]

Ehhh I'd go back and forth on that

The elite gen 2's are a long way better

And the basic ones still last a good few years

[stoic crest]

Fair enough

[cinder kiln]

They're a long way from 360 quality tho, agree

[stoic crest]

Tho one good solution to stick drift is to slap a hall effect sensor in em

[cinder kiln]

Of all brands I've had to take the effort with to rma xbox is by far the highest tho lmao

[stoic crest]

No material wear to worry

[cinder kiln]

There are other tricks to this, and adjusting your deadzone slightly doesn't make you a worse player

[jolly inlet]

I still have my original PS4 controller that came with the console, and I have 2 kids that abuse it lol

[cinder kiln]

Stick drift is much worse on other consoles

Like switch you don't get much freedom

[stoic crest]

I was meaning generally

[cinder kiln]

Fair enough

[jolly inlet]

I did have to change the charge port on one controller but that was a $1.50 fix

[cinder kiln]

Ooo PS5 got the non replaceable batteries too

And the garbage firmware

Forgot about that

Another red flag

[jolly inlet]

Oh so they went WAY backwards on repairability, fun

[cinder kiln]

Mhm

[jolly inlet]

Batteries are easily the thing that need to be replaced the most too

[cinder kiln]

The pads are great but they're a pain to open

You can still open them

But iirc it's a permanent battery

I don't remember well* cos when I opened my busted one I was looking at the trigger not the battery

Trigger just was not receiving at all, but it was the firmware at fault

[jolly inlet]

Hmm this one isn't permanent

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Sony+DualSense+Controller+Battery+Replacement/142053

[cinder kiln]

Oh it's not? Oh neat

Still an ass to replace

[jolly inlet]

Yeah the first 12 steps are just getting it open lmfao

[cinder kiln]

Oh yeah it's got a basic clip

That is easy

Volt sense ground 3 pin

[stoic crest]

Now try to open my phone with button on the back

Can't dig too deep into the glue of back glass panel or you risk breaking the ribbon cable of the button

[cinder kiln]

Heh

[jolly inlet]

Glass backs are the stupidest idea phone companies ever had

[cinder kiln]

My first gen razer phone died from the usb c port going bad

[stoic crest]

Now the button is very cheap to replace, but ripping one sucks

[cinder kiln]

And I couldn't charge it

I was basically boned more or less

[jolly inlet]

Or maybe the most genius because now you have to replace more parts more often

[cinder kiln]

If I was careful I could charge it but it was about to die

Sent it off to Razer, they took 16 weeks

[stoic crest]

It's like a shared function power button/fingerprint scanner

[cinder kiln]

Then on the 14th week they messaged me

I was without a phone for 3 and a half months

And they told me they broke the phone

Like, dead, completely

[stoic crest]

I wonder if you can still use glass on phones while not requiring glue to secure them and retain water resistance?

[cinder kiln]

I had to pay for a new phone from them

[stoic crest]

Gaskets or something

[cinder kiln]

Or take my old one back destroyed

I was livid

And in hindsight it was dumb af

[stoic crest]

oof

[jolly inlet]

Not without hurting the water resistance, no. It needs to be sealed completely.

[stoic crest]

Ah

So not like plastic or metal

[cinder kiln]

Idk how you manage to pull that off when soldering a usbc port is not that significant

[stoic crest]

Probably just lied

Or intentionally broke it

[cinder kiln]

Exactly

Exactlyyyyy

[stoic crest]

"oh your phone usb-c ded? now it's dead too, sorry"

[cinder kiln]

Gigabyte aren't the only bad eggs

[jolly inlet]

"Hey new guy here's an easy job your resume says you know how to do"
"Uhhhhhhhh... yeah..... I've done that... before..."

[cinder kiln]

💀

[stoic crest]

slams a phone with dead port on new guy's desk

[cinder kiln]

And you know Razer gets a lot of flak

But their phone was incredible

The first gen one

Hands down the best thing they made

[stoic crest]

I liked the razer phone

Dual speaker too

[cinder kiln]

The second gen was a shadow of the glory it had

[cinder kiln]

1440p, good speakers, good battery, great SoC

[stoic crest]

ye

[cinder kiln]

It just lacked an audio jack

[stoic crest]

My LG kinda matches that all tbh, just minus speakers lmao

[jolly inlet]

You know who was great with warranty for me was LG. I gave them a totally bricked phone that wouldn't even charge TWICE and they replaced it on the spot.

[cinder kiln]

Which they brought to gen 2 but gen 2 was not as great

[stoic crest]

Has a dac in this thing

I have 1440p here too, but it's like an odd 1440p?

[jolly inlet]

16:10 1440p?

[stoic crest]

No

It's 18:9

[cinder kiln]

Mine was 16:9

Iirc

[stoic crest]

2880x1440

[cinder kiln]

It got hot af too

That def was a downside

[stoic crest]

That's the highest setting

[cinder kiln]

[stoic crest]

I mean my V30 also gets pretty warm

But it never throttled

SD 835 fone

Just like razer phone 1

[cinder kiln]

Very nice tbh

I would still be using it tbh

[jolly inlet]

Mine is 3120x1440 lol

[stoic crest]

I love the big batt on the razer

[cinder kiln]

I only upgraded from that cos the Razer Phone 2 was lackluster

[stoic crest]

Kinda not enough with 3300 mAh here on the LG

[cinder kiln]

The 1st gen was better

[stoic crest]

4000 sounds great

8 gigs of ram in 2017?

tf

this thing baller

I have only 4 here

[jolly inlet]

I miss my old LG phone with an extended battery pack. Replaceable batteries ftw.

[cinder kiln]

It was the first of it's kind tbf

[stoic crest]

Fair

It had like features unheard of

I prefer oled, the razer phone didn't have that. But frankly it ain't much of an issue

[jolly inlet]

I love my qd-oled, I noticed the difference immediately.

Despite the weird resolution

[stoic crest]

I still stand by anything above 1080p on a phone to be indiscernible, but damn is this 1440p crisp asf

I kinda get why people likes this

[jolly inlet]

The ultra battery saver mode that reduces the screen resolution to help save power is amazing. I kept in on that while I was on vacation and didn't have to charge it in almost 5 days.

[stoic crest]

Idk if i want to lower this to 1080p

I kinda feel spoiled lmao

[fair moon]

Depends on screen size as well

But yeah a lot of modern phone resolutions seem a bit overkill

[stoic crest]

Phones gets like 7" at most

Hovers at 6-6.5" generally

[fair moon]

The original apple 'retina' claim is that a little over 300ppi is the limit of what humans can see at 12"

[jolly inlet]

Higher end ones yeah. And cheap ones that pretend to be high end.

[fair moon]

But depending on the content I can definitely tell the difference between ~320ppi and ~450 (old phone vs current)

That being said 320 isn't bad by any means

[autumn flint]

It comes to $387(USD), is it owrth it?

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6750-xt-rx6750xt-clp-12go/p/N82E16814930071?Item=N82E16814930071

[jolly inlet]

Do you mean after tax? Yes that's a good value right now

[fair moon]

How much better is a 6750xt vs 6700xt?

Cause this is $50 cheaper
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6700-xt-rx6700xt-cld-12g/p/N82E16814930056

2 fan vs 3 but I doubt that matters much for this level of card

[autumn flint]

It is on average %5 better

[fair moon]

I'd probably go for the 6700xt then.

86% the price of the 6750xt

[marsh sphinx]

6750 XT is very similar to the 6700 XT, just a little faster clocks

6700 XT is just better for the price

[grand orbit]

Bout 6%, at current prices not worth it ye 6700xt or 6800xt is the play

[shut lava]

Instead of that I5 12600k, z690, 32gb ddr4 for $349 combo, you can get a 12600K Z690 combo without RAM and buy RAM with better timings and RGB for a similar or lower price. ASRock Z690 Pro RS And Intel Core i5-12600K $45 off w/ promo code SMBCT485: $288.97 - $45 = $243.97 https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4549373

Total $351.96 with 32GB DDR4 3600 CAS 16 G.Skill Trident Z RGB $107.99 https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232906

Total $341.96 with 32GB DDR4 4000 CAS 18 G.Skill Trident Z RGB $97.99 https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374106

If you don't care about RGB, you can save even more. That 12600k, z690, 32gb ddr4 for $349 combo is non RGB RAM.

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB DDR4 4000 $77.99 https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374107

With the same RAM in the combo, you can save even more since its $61.99 separately for a total of $305.96.

[trim pier]

no wifi though

you'd practically send the same

[light holly]

Even for same price with having to buy a Wi-Fi card, the specs that bavor listed are still better value:perf

[stoic crest]

Why g skill only tho?

There's cheaper kits from silicon power and team group with rgb ain't it

It's not worth extra going g skill tbf

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZRpmP6/team-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-tf4d432g3600hc18jdc01

3600 C18 yes but it's only $66

69 for black version

[light holly]

Even better

[stoic crest]

ddr4 cheep

[light holly]

I'm glad people are still ok with buying ddr4 pcs

[stoic crest]

I wanna push for ddr5 these days tbh

If people's budget allows it

[light holly]

For sure. This just allows me to build another PC in the near future with good specs to sell off

[stoic crest]

7800X3D plus cheapest A620 with vrm heatsink

That's the maximum gamer meta

Or you can even have a wifi A620 board for 129

[light holly]

I already have everything. It's technically my current PC. I'm just waiting on the 13th gen CPU to show up on tuwusday so I can build my new personal PC.

[stoic crest]

I was merely saying as a reference

AM5 is so overbuilt you don't need anything fancy to run even 7950x3d

[light holly]

I still love you.

[stoic crest]

Maybe you do need a fancy board if the extra i/o is actually used

Other than that? Nah

Cuz even some A620 has usb-c on the back

[shut lava]

G.Skill to do a like for like comparison.

[stoic crest]

Ah

That's a fair point

[grand orbit]

Fair point but honestly spending over 50$ 32gb of ddr4 in this age is pretty pointless you'd be better off forking an extra 20$ for a board and getting cheaper better ddr5

[grand orbit]

No real good reason to do a comparison like that tbh

[shut lava]

It was for an equal comparison because the original deal that was posted was a DDR4 combo. I've seen people complain in the past here and elsewhere that it was different brand memory when I've compared prices before. So if I don't do the same brand memory then people complain. If I use the same brand memory in the comparison people say that I coudl have used a differnt brand and saved a few dollars. If I don't do DDR5 people say I should have used DDR5. If I use DDR5 with higher CAS altency peopel complain that I used higher latency DDR5. Either way I can't keep everyone happy. lol

I usually get less complaints or disagreements in parts selection for price comparisons when I keep most of the components the same type.

Also, with the Newegg combo deals posted in the link, the DDR5 board combos were much more than $20 more.

$60 more for a DDR5 combo with somewhat similar hardware(12600k DDR5 instead of 13600K DDR4 combo).

[grand orbit]

fair, could get that b760 asrock though as lets be honest most ppl wont oc anywayt

[stoic crest]

The heck

$15 for an ssd

That's so cheap

Let alone a samsung

[pulsar fable]

Ok I haven't used a console since the late days on the Xbox 360. Controllers were pretty dang cheap for those. Can someone tell me why Xbox and PS4 controllers are so expensive?

[azure pond]

@grand orbit

[grand orbit]

Cheers

[grand orbit]

Because yes, also you can get off brand ones for cheap, i always remember the first party ones being at least ~50

[shut lava]

The $15 Samsung NVMe SSD sold out fast

[tiny heron]

Are they a reputable seller. Never heard of them

[stoic crest]

Adorama is legit

[shut lava]

Yes they are reputable. They have been around since the 1970s. I think they started selling PC parts 15 years ago.

[high radish]

Adorama is owned by BH

[tiny heron]

Nice

[azure pond]

I don't think it is

[high radish]

I been shopping from them for long for camera parts monitors etc

[azure pond]

B&h is jewish owned and shuts down on the Jewish Sabath, adorama doesn't

I think b&h would do the same thing with adorama if they owned it

Owners of the two companies are two different people, Mendel something or other and Herman shreiber

[shut lava]

Adorama and B&H are both owned by Jewish families in new York. They aren't owned by the same people though.

[azure pond]

Yeah I was looking at the last name of the adorama owner and was like "that's a very jewish last name" (im jewish)

His names Eugene mendlowits

[high radish]

I think adorama is thier rebrand. As newegg had some other sites

[azure pond]

No they're two completely separate companies

[shut lava]

Adorama is older than newegg

[high radish]

My few order from adorama came in BH box so

I'm pretty sure they're related to each other

[shut lava]

It could have been drop shipping when Adorama didn't have the item in stock. B&H and Adorama are owned by two completely different families.

[high radish]

Very sus

[azure pond]

Adorama is still very trustworthy

[high radish]

[azure pond]

I'd trust it more than newegg and Amazon lol

Same with b&h

[high radish]

I love BHs fast shipping

it's faster than amazon in my state

[high radish]

Sure . I shopped from adorama a lot without any issue

[wide onyx]

#tech-deals message
$130 isnt bad for the 2TB either. $140 for 2TB heatsink version

[azure pond]

by current pricing it's kinda bad

xs70 has been $98 for a lil bit recently

p44 pro $120 consistently

[grave delta]

990 pro 2tb has been 140 ish recently

For any of these, check if you need to update firmware

[cinder kiln]

XS70 is cheaper than that 980 pro rn

Basically the same price tho

There's also A440 pro for $3 *more with a big heatsink

I think I'd rather the XS70 tbh so I don't need to worry about telling people to update lol

[fiery zephyr]

I should fill my mobo with 4 tb m.2s frfr

[shut lava]

Phison E21T controller and Micron 176 layer TLC Nand on that 4TB drive.

I'm tempted to make a poor financial decision, buy 4 of them and a NVME to PCIEx16 card and set them up as a JBOD on my 3970X system.

[jolly inlet]

Why JBOD? You wouldn't have nearly enough drives to make that worth it. I'd go ZFS or just make a LVM with Windows Storage Spaces.

[grave delta]

wdym? Why wouldn't that be worth it?

You get better single drive performance in jbod vs windows storage space with 5975wx 4x p31 1TB IME - but not a huge difference

[jolly inlet]

It would just be a big storage pool with no performance benefits

[grave delta]

Yeah - if you know you need pure sequential speed - some kind of storage space/lvm is the way to go, but if 3GB/s is enough for your sequential needs, then not much reason to other than redundancy

[shut lava]

The whole point would be to be a big storage pool. Games and 3D Rendering assets. Video editing scratch/storage drive for current projects.

Also, I haven't seen any real world benefits to doing NVMe RAID.

[prisma mortar]

What if you have a personal vendetta against windows storage space (it killed my entire family and children)

[jolly inlet]

3D rendering might prefer higher sequential speeds depending on the application and size of the render

[jolly inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/personal-problem-sips-tea-kermit-but-thats-none-of-my-business-sounds-like-a-personal-problem-gif-12085884

[shut lava]

For 3D rendering it would be more to load assets quicker than to load them while rendering unless I run out of VRAM on the 3090s.

[jolly inlet]

Oh yeah I've seen similar situations with music production. The actual project is small but you're loading 100GB of plugins every time the program starts

In which case yes higher speeds do help

[shut lava]

Its similar with 3D rendering. Most of the textures get loaded to VRAM when the render starts.

[grave delta]

Yeah, in that case - if the plugin loading phase occurs often enough during work hours - definitely go for some kind of striped storage.

That said - I've heard nothing good about windows storage spaces - every community recommends 3rd party solutions

[jolly inlet]

Yeah storage spaces is just an example, ideally you'd do another LVM striping option

Especially in production environments

[pulsar fable]

Please. All these great nvme deals. It's getting harder and harder to tell myself to stop

[high radish]

Gen5 4tb ssd wen

[grand orbit]

Literally pointless for users

[pulsar fable]

Yes

However, big number is funny

[cinder kiln]

Big number make thin wallet

Hehehehehehe

Huehuehuehue

[tiny heron]

Decent Evga B stock drop.

PSUs mostly

[shut lava]

With EVGA B stock, any good GPU deals disappear fast.

Some of their B stock PSUs don't have all of the cables for some reason. They come with fewer cables than the regular retail units.

I'm shocked the GPUs aren't sellign out as fast as they use to.

[prisma mortar]

not many people scalping anymore

most people who want to upgrade already have

[cloud hornet]

People could also be paying less attention to EVGA bstock cuz they arent in GPU business anymore.

But that could easily be the opposite too. Hard to tell in that regard.

[prisma mortar]

that's pretty possible

[shut lava]

That JLab Talk Go USB Microphone is actually a great deal for that price. It compares well to other $40-$50 microphones in previous reviews.

Also, I bought the JLab Talk Pro USB Microphone recently for $45. Reviews from last year compared it to other $100+ microphones and recommended it. Soem of the music and podcast equipment review sites said its comparable to the Shure MV7 in sound quality.

[fiery zephyr]

What an amazing deal lmaooo

[tawdry dragon]

It went up in price

By 400 bucks, wow

[fiery zephyr]

Maybe cause its outa stock by me?

idk

[grand orbit]

Says 350 for me if you pickup, also that's why we ask for putting the price in the listing

[tawdry dragon]

It used to be 350 for me, but the price went up near me, too

[marsh sphinx]

I want a new dedicated mic but dunno what pair of headphones to get

I'm genuinely thinking about just getting a HyperX Cloud II and skipping out on a mic

[shut lava]

I've been using use the Sony MDR-7506 headphones. They are more for professional audio work than bass heavy music and game sound effects though. https://www.soundguys.com/sony-mdr-7506-review-16336/

[marsh sphinx]

Looks okay IG

But I'd prefer the bass and game sound since audio plays a big part in War Thunder

[shut lava]

Headphones are somehat a matter of personal preference. How much do you wan to spend, what sound quality. What connector type. etc...

[prisma mortar]

i mean

honestly, connector type isn't really a preference

it's more about what kind of device you're using it on lmao

[shut lava]

With PCs some people don't like the USB connection or bluetooth/wifi connection for some reason. They claim it has more "noise" so that eliminates the USB headphones. I considered that a preference.

[prisma mortar]

usb connections have more noise? what kind of audiophile snake oil have they come up with this time

[light bay]

first they say DACs are actually useful and now this...

[wide onyx]

#tech-deals message
still $350 for me

[light bay]

isnt kryonaut still on top?

[kind rover]

its slightly behind for a high tension mount https://www.tomshardware.com/best-picks/best-thermal-paste

[marsh sphinx]

Meh, as long as it’s good for surroundings audio and is cheap I don’t really care much

[prisma mortar]

get open backs

[marsh sphinx]

I’ve been thinking about a pair of wireless earbuds to be completely honest since my iPhone 8 doesn’t have a headphone jack

Would save more money buying something to work with my phone and PC

[stoic crest]

the mdr 7506

ah yes