tech-deals-discussion

[quasi radish]

$11?

bro wtf

[jolly inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/california-i-love-california-california-love-gif-26529479

[quasi radish]

[jolly inlet]

The only state I know of where if you work fast food you need to work for an hour just to pay for one meal

[lunar path]

One of the states was like 18 dollars for a combo

[jolly inlet]

Alaska or Hawaii probably, they don't count lol

[lunar path]

No it was like connicut or something

Yea it's conneicut

[jolly inlet]

Weird

[lunar path]

Connecticut

Weird indeed

[jolly inlet]

Well I never had any desire to exist near there anyway before

[lunar path]

https://www.outkick.com/a-mcdonalds-big-mac-meal-costs-18-in-connecticut/

[pulsar fable]

Geez it isn't that expensive even up here in Boston

And we're Massachusetts. Known for prices that are too high

The hell is going on in Connecticut?

[lunar path]

No idea

[umbral horizon]

wasp repression

[quasi radish]

No such thing

[lunar path]

What is that anyways

[gusty willow]

everybody gangster till it shows 2 headed bears

[fiery zephyr]

@wispy fern if you just waited a couple days for that pro a deal😭

[wispy fern]

💀

[fleet marlin]

Was a great price huh. $136 now & not exactly oos but 2-3week delivery maybe.

[light holly]

Yeah when I had put oos, it was pricing at $240

[pulsar fable]

Nah we'll still be fine, so long as we don't go to war over some dam

[jolly inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-out-liberty-prime-democracy-explosion-gif-12000228

[pallid geyser]

man that mouse is ugly

trypophobia: 1 | me: 0

[marsh sphinx]

but, is there an air fryer that's endorsed by diplo???

[cinder kiln]

DON'T LOOK AWAY BOY (DON'T LOOK AWAYYY)

I'LL BE RIGHT THERE FOR YOUUUU

https://tenor.com/view/vibing-club-sunglasses-indaclub-moves-gif-24602378

[marsh sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/major-lazer-gif-3377221

[cinder kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/diplo-majorlazer-drop-gif-5242590

[high radish]

Thabks amazon for super fast prime delivery

[light holly]

How good is this headset?

[high radish]

it's good for that price

[pallid geyser]

Ooof ouch

[daring depot]

Not a fan unfortunately. Fell off my head way to easily for some reason.

Not bad tho for that price

[cinder kiln]

WTF the C2 is on a banger deal here too

Almost the same price wtf

Wait 42 inch, still way way cheaper than before

[high radish]

I think regular price for 48 inch c2 was like 1200ish

[lunar path]

thats rough

[fair moon]

My experience with my razer headset and a couple friends' headsets is that they have somewhat low clamping force. I personally find it really comfortable and can wear em for 6+ hours a day with no fatigue but they do slip forward sometimes if I'm looking down a lot

[cinder kiln]

Razer razor

[light holly]

It's also giving me the option to pay 12 monthly payments instead of outright

[shut lava]

My experience with most Razer products is they stop working or have issues shortly after the warranty expires. ☹️

[forest prairie]

My experience with razer products is a random deathadder from 2013 that I got for free

Still works

[sick spade]

Which headset do you use? I kinda experience the same thing where I need to adjust them a bit if I look down a lot though I rarely do that so that avoids that issue.

I use the Razer Blackshark 🦈 V2 Pro.

[sick spade]

Sorry to hear that. In my experience all my Razer stuff still works even after 24/7 use for over two years.

[fair moon]

Kraken TE

[sick spade]

what is the difference between Kraken, Blackshark, and Nari?

Besides aesthetics.

[azure pond]

@mortal blaze that's a scam.

[mortal blaze]

i think same

i dont bought for da reason jjj 😄

[cinder kiln]

[jolly inlet]

Definitely a scam

[grand orbit]

@earnest ledge that rams about 10$ over the going rate for 3200mhz 32gb kit btw

[earnest ledge]

oh interesting

[jolly inlet]

Actually I think that ram is a scam too now that I look at it

Another random string of letters "just launched" seller

Delivery May 4-24th 😅
They're hoping you forget about it lol

[earnest ledge]

crap I ordered it too

I thought it was an official one

[jolly inlet]

The $49 seller is the scam one

The $69 ones are legit but meh deal

It's always China too...

[earnest ledge]

Amazon made it look real, and official

it was even linked from the official store for that RAM brand

[jolly inlet]

And that's Amazon's fault really because of how their links work

You can be linked a page and you'll get the cheapest option available by default, so all a scammer has to do is offer it for 99 cents less and free shipping

[earnest ledge]

They also reduced the visibility of the seller part it seems like

[azure pond]

Then why would you post it...

[mortal blaze]

idk. sure somebudy like dangers or some analyist scam contents. !!
what u said, i delete? (question)

[trim pier]

I've had this rzer kraken torunament edition headset since 2020

only for 40$ from target, they still work and I just started using it's primary thing considering it wasn't compatible with a mac LOL

[grand orbit]

Oh it didn't even show me a 49$ one wonder if it was taken down or just defaulted to the 69 one

[jolly inlet]

You're outside the US, probably the seller wasn't listed for you

[grand orbit]

Usually they should be tho 🤷

[daring depot]

Jeez all the Steelseries products are so expensive without the sales

100 bucks for an Aerox 3!?

[jolly inlet]

Unless the seller explicitly excluded your country

[grand orbit]

Maybe ye

[pulsar fable]

I must say, it is mighty tempting

Even with a lack of reviews

[tiny heron]

5700x back up to $194

[fair moon]

Seller is legit and I've only heard good things about thermalright

I don't have that exact cooler but I have a thermalright assassin(?) and it's solid

[stoic crest]

phantom spirit is the best air cooler as of current also

[pulsar fable]

The phantom spirit is essentially a peerless assassin with another heat pipe if I'm correct

[light bay]

Wonder if it's also a convex coldplate

[umbral horizon]

I got the Thermalwright Intel 1700 CPU contact frame and its incredibly effective 👌

Great brand

[fleet marlin]

Most of their bases are convex, but barely. Part of why the contact frame doesn't hurt. PS120(se) no reviews just because it's so new.

[marsh sphinx]

it's a great cooler, I have one

basically a $35 d15

[azure pond]

^

I'd recc over ag/ak620

[marsh sphinx]

ak620 is a little nicer, but also a little under 2x the price lol. pa120se is a no brainer imo

and hello again btw, it's been a while

[stoic crest]

there is ag620

same thing just diff looks on the top of the tower

[azure pond]

$45-55 normally

So I'd go for ps120 se or pa120 se if they're cheaper, but at same price meh

[raw inlet]

@azure pond why the downvote? isn't it a good deal? It looks like to me it's pretty good

Not enough RGB?

[slow sluice]

That kit uses a pretty old die, doesn't it?

[raw inlet]

Is there such thing as an "old die"? I didn't know that

I don't think that'd affect performance unless you're overclocking... Right? Should still be a good deal for 32gb of 5600 ram

[slow sluice]

As far as I'm seeing it's samsung B die

[azure pond]

Can get a 6000mhz kit for the same price normally

If not a tiny bit more

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VCstt6/mushkin-redline-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl36-memory-mrf5u600dddm16gx2

[raw inlet]

Okk, I didn't know the thing about b-die being used on ddr5... That's probably why they're usually cheaper and always in discount

Changed the deal to inform people that it is b-die

[slow sluice]

As a note, I'm pretty sure that ddr5 b die and ddr4 b die are different things

[high radish]

Yeah at ddr5 side , hybix M die and A die is better

Amazing monitor deal
https://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/tvs/micro-led/110-class-micro-led-samsung-4k-with-smart-hub-mna110ms1acxza/

[raw inlet]

Nothing much, just costs like a whole house

110" wtf

And still 4k? Bro
For a 110 inch TV I want at least 16k

[azure pond]

To be able to even see the screen, with how far away you'd comfortably be, id say 4k is fine

[raw inlet]

Why be able to see the whole screen when you can sit 2 inches from the TV

[umbral horizon]

That ain't a screen that's a wall

[tawdry dragon]

Just buy an extremely overpriced projector meant for cinemas and put it 5 ft away from the wall. It'll still be way less then what that monitor costs

[umbral horizon]

It's for doctors to bet on the derby

[shut spoke]

All these gaming softwares are so annoying

Like I think the vengeance look pretty good but icue is such a pain

[light holly]

@marsh sphinx sadly no coupon to clip, however the promo code still works and makes the keeb $18. I'd say that's still solid for a hot swappable board with rgb

[marsh sphinx]

yeah, i ordered it earlier so the coupon mustve expired

like within this 6 hours

but good deal still

[light holly]

Does that promo code work for anything else? Where do you even find such a thing for Amazon?

[marsh sphinx]

I don’t think so, also i hunt for deals on the regular

if you have something I can find you a deal, some people on tiktok do the same thing

[high radish]

In case if someone missed Samsung monitor deal yesterday https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1663289-REG/lg_lsab_u325c_325_8k_ultra.html/865

Suggested payment 100k per month for 12months

[umbral horizon]

Just think of the high quality PowerPoint that bad boy can fit

[hybrid hazel]

[tawdry dragon]

Like a projector but it's $100 a minute of run time

[sick spade]

"Q&A 3 out of 9 questions
Can this run Fortnite? and if so, how many frames can I expect?
Brandon on Oct 06, 2022
BEST ANSWER: The LG LSAB-U325C 325" 8K Ultra HD Ultimate Business Display BH #LGLSABU325C is a display that would need to be connected to a computer to run Fortnight. The refresh rate up to 3840 Hz. (less)
Mark Staff on Oct 06, 2022"

3840hz!

[high radish]

[daring depot]

Damn why did the V3 have to go on sale now of all times

ok I refuse to download Synapse again, so I'm just...not gonna use the DAV3

[pulsar osprey]

is this a good chat / server to ask for laptop recommendations

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834273560

I wanted this laptop but it went out of stock ):

[daring depot]

what about it is special?

to you? what do you prioritize I mean

[pulsar osprey]

seemed like good parts, gpu, ram, has an ssd, and cpu for a good price

[daring depot]

most gaming laptops have ssd's nowdays so I wouldn't prioritize that, but the specs look ok

For reommendations I don't have any specific ones, but if you don't care about weight, look into Dell or other HP laptops

their websites often have sales

[jolly inlet]

It's been a long time since I've seen a gaming laptop with a HDD

M.2 saves more than space, it's cheaper for them to make too

[daring depot]

I remember there being a SATA slot on my old laptop, I wanted to add an HDD

cheap storage is cheap

[pulsar osprey]

okay good to know thanks : D

[jolly inlet]

HDD isn't really worth getting unless you get more than 4TB

[daring depot]

yeah I figured. Sata didn't look too worth it, cause I could buy something much faster for like 20 bucks more

didn't have a reason to have 4tb either.

[jolly inlet]

You could get a SATA SSD instead

[daring depot]

even then tho, m.2 is just superior

I think I had an extra slot too

[jolly inlet]

Yeah NVMe specifically, since you can still have a SATA M.2

[daring depot]

oh no not the naming conventions again

hey does this look sketch to anyone else?!

what kinda deals has HP been hiding from me?

[molten halo]

It’s the “up to”’s that are sketch

Doing a MacBook classic

[daring depot]

ah, i see. its a 3050 initially

[daring depot]

Ever bought one yourself?

I've been thinking on switching in college

[molten halo]

I’ve bought a MacBook before yeah, they do the whole up to thing on their website… storage prices

Should just grab a base MacBook Air m1

Thing crushes for productivity

[daring depot]

is it still 2k?

oh no only 899

[molten halo]

Has like a 3 day battery

[umbral horizon]

If you're just gonna use it for school and tv then it's the perfect college laptop imo

[stoic crest]

you can get better at 1k tho

like 4050 or 3060

same perf gpus, same vram

as in 4050 compared to 3060

[daring depot]

battery life is the concern for macbook im pretty sure

[molten halo]

Eh, for battery life portability (oh you’re talking about hp)

[daring depot]

but yeah I see ya

I already have a 3070 laptop with a 2hour battery

[stoic crest]

omen base models doesn't have particularly big batts

doesn't help that it's got 12th gen

[jolly inlet]

AMD laptop efficiency

[molten halo]

Arm supremacy

[jolly inlet]

Now that Windows has a better ARM image that's hard to argue against actually

[molten halo]

[jolly inlet]

No wait, Quantum supremacy

1 qubit equals 2 bits so potentially double the processing power per clock

[molten halo]

Quantum running arm supremacy

[fair moon]

Isn't out yet but the framework 16 laptop looks interesting

Definitely a bigger up front investment but you save $ down the line via easier repairs and upgradability

[slow sluice]

Riscv though

[tawdry dragon]

I'd argue that I each replacement motherboard costs as much as a new laptop, so there's no reason to upgrade it

[jolly inlet]

No it doesn't? The highest end upgrade board they have has a 1280P for $800. Laptops with that CPU start at over $1100 and that's with no dedicated graphics.
Most of the other options are around $400-500, clearly lower than other midrange laptops.

[wide onyx]

DO NOT, DO NOT trust any mouse “deal” links from ʞ̶ɐ̶Ɛ̶ɹ̶ɟ̶⇂̶ɐ̶ʇ̶ɐ̶Ⅎ̶

[daring depot]

Can I ask why? It's a DAVE

[wide onyx]

Has a history of janky buyer links. Purchase likely to take months before delivery or cancelled after months of waiting. Only pertains to mouse suggestions

[jolly inlet]

In this case it's sold and shipped by Amazon so idk what the problem is

[wide onyx]

So was the last link I used, you figure it out

[jolly inlet]

Well that's Amazon's fault not his then

It sounds like they oversold on the sale and couldn't get any in stock in time

[grand orbit]

970 evo plus has been 60$ for ages and isn't even good for 60

[grave delta]

man, fast ssd's have gotten to cheap lately, felt like not long ago a $110 p31 1TB was a steal

[pulsar fable]

Dude the wd 750se was a deal last year just because it was a competent SSD with a bf2042 code

[zenith lantern]

Eh, something happened to the reactions in my post

[pulsar fable]

Now? No where near as good a deal as it used to be

[frosty gate]

I feel like you could have left out BF2042 and it'd garner more attention

[olive lance]

970 evo plus is pretty good for server use tbh

Cache or docker/game server use

[grand orbit]

Yeah but you can get the sn770 for the same price

[olive lance]

True but i think endurance on 970 is better

Dont quote me on that

[azure ravine]

So what is a good cheap m.2 SSD now then? For a home PC/gaming

[light bay]

A60/mp33 are both really good value

[azure ravine]

Thank you

[pulsar fable]

The a60 is $80 for 2tb

Pretty good if you ask me

[daring depot]

Why the heck is there a resume in tech deals

[light bay]

I didn't even see any references smh

[pulsar fable]

$60 for 1tb of 970 evo?

Doesn't seem like much of a deal when 2tb nvmes are in the $80 range nowadays

[fair moon]

Last year there was still 2042 hype and it hadn't gone on sale yet

[fleet marlin]

Sn850x 1tb $60 at bestbuy

[light bay]

thanks for that

[daring depot]

noice

[light bay]

Finally time to really upgrade off the crucial P Poo

[daring depot]

external ssd time

[light bay]

Yeah long term I'll probs put it in an enclosure

[raw inlet]

I see

[cinder kiln]

Tables how turning the have

[torpid night]

how the tables have turned

[forest prairie]

How did my table turn

[light holly]

Turn how did table

[torpid night]

table turned. how? (my house is haunted and I’m not trying to show it to the demon)

[raw inlet]

the turn how tabled

[mighty whale]

oh sweet

thanks lol

[azure pond]

The table has been flipped upside-down

[cloud hornet]

The flip has been upside-tabled down.

[jolly inlet]

┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)

[azure pond]

@quasi pasture if you have any interest, I've no idea about any d3 so this could be dog *** idk https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-1600MHz-PC3-12800-Unbuffered-Computer/dp/B00FAY0S08/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=37HJ6WZF20LGQ&keywords=16gb+ddr3&qid=1682011055&sprefix=16gb+ddr3%2Caps%2C302&sr=8-1#

[quasi pasture]

never check big retail like newegg/amazon for older hardware lol

and yes that memory is terrible

i guess the GB/dollar isnt too bad

[azure pond]

I saw fairly cheap d3 so figured I'd check lol

[light holly]

Got the keeb in. It's like.. really solid for the price. Heavy, no bending. I'm surprised.

[marsh sphinx]

Great! It has a little ring to it, but nice design and I like the metal body, great for the price

[olive lance]

There are hetter deathadder alternatives out there with improved sensors

[azure pond]

At similar pricing?

[olive lance]

Pretty sure

Havent checked in a while

[olive lance]

Deathadder elite is same price rn and the v2 is $7 more

[azure pond]

Deleted

[fair moon]

Razer Viper can also be had for 25-40usd. Sometimes have to buy the "Razer Victory Bundle" to get that price

DA elite and V2 probably have a better sensor but tbh the viper is quite good already. Good option if you don't like the size/shape of the DA

[cinder kiln]

@mortal blaze https://www.amazon.com/dp/B092ZCVHS8

Double capacity for $8 more

[mortal blaze]

One man's meat is another man's poison

[azure pond]

That's- no.

[cinder kiln]

You mean trash and treasure ig and no, these are cheaper if you want like for like.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XsKKHx/silicon-power-xpower-zenith-rgb-gaming-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdd

And even then it's like, no, $13 more for twice the ram is just worth it lol

[prisma mortar]

Any good deals for reliable SD cards recently? For booting SBCs like the raspberry pi, bananapi, etc. (Specifically bananapi in this instance)

[proper wagon]

Likewise anyone know what the best deal on an ssd would be right now? Capacity isn't too important, as long as it's at least 500gb (it's for a boot drive) upgrading from an old fat ssd so any 2280s are probably going to be faster anyway

[stoic crest]

MP33, P41, 670P and A60 are great choices

Team group, Solidigm, Intel and Silicon Power are names of the ssd brands respectively, in the same order

These four choices, you can't go wrong with any

[quasi pasture]

@polar field https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08462XNBN?th=1

[jolly inlet]

A1 or A2 rating is good for Linux based stuff and Android. That means it meets a minimum threshold for random read/write.
$9 https://www.newegg.com/sandisk-64gb-microsdxc/p/0DF-0005-01SS9

[prisma mortar]

need it to be in canada

it's stupidly overpriced on the canadian newegg LMAO

[jolly inlet]

Ah, Canada

Yeah that was a third party seller in the US that had it at 9

[jolly inlet]

The seller ships to Canada from what I can see, https://www.newegg.ca/sandisk-64gb-microsdxc/p/N82E16820173492?Item=9SIAWUKFUD7717

Just takes an extra $7 shipping fee

[prisma mortar]

i half wish i lived in the US then i remember the political stuff going down there as well and also the weather and i change my mind LMAO
but got damn things are expensive here

i might pop to the local best buy to see if they have any of these microsd cards for cheaper

[jolly inlet]

I was all set to move to Canada right before they closed the border lol

[prisma mortar]

F

[jolly inlet]

Best buy will price match but only for first party sellers

I always find these claims amusing

Nothing is waterproof. Water will always win eventually, it cut the Grand Canyon after all.

Temperature proof? Time to set it on my stove burner

[daring depot]

Never used price match before. How does it work again? Can I just email them about a price I find on Amazon?

[jolly inlet]

It only works in store

And the part number needs to match exactly

[daring depot]

Gotcha. Wait does that mean only for products in stock?

[jolly inlet]

Yes it has to be in stock in the store

[daring depot]

Eh. I'll try it someday

[jolly inlet]

It works great for major PC parts like CPUs

That kind of thing they can't stock a random more expensive model for

[quasi radish]

waterproof/temp-proof [to a reasonable extent]

dropping an SD card in a boiling pot of water probably won't kill them

[jolly inlet]

There's no disclaimers or anything like that on the page, you have to go directly to the product data sheet to get any details

It's rated up to 185F/85C

[quasi radish]

probably in operation

[jolly inlet]

It says storage temp range

[quasi radish]

lol

I'm sure you can go well past that range though

[polar field]

is that bdie? that bin looks like hynix but i could be insane

[light holly]

Is that Seagate Firecuda a good deal? I'm thinking I might want an HDD to store the games I don't really play anymore, but still want them just in case I get a hankerin.

[shut lava]

Its one of the lowest priced 8TB 7200 RPM HDD available right now.

[fleet marlin]

Good price & hdd. If there's games played so rarely, perhaps just 2TB of ssd for $120ish or as low as $70ish. My 6TB wdblack is for rare & truly uncommon use/backup.

[jolly inlet]

Maybe but probably not b-die. If it was straight 18 that would be more likely b-die but 18-20-20 could be several dies.

Probably not Hynix too, their 8Gb chips aren't great and CJR is typically 4000 18-22-22

Likely Rev.E or B-die now that I think about it, unless it's some cursed DR 4Gb setup

[stoic crest]

sheesh

that asus itx case deal is absolute insanity in terms of discount

[pulsar fable]

Very tempted to get the Asus brick

But the only itx motherboard I have is for a bulldozer and chip

cringes in athlon x4 860k

Is it worth making a Nas with that hunk of junk using that tiny Asus case?

[jolly inlet]

Phenom II >>> Bulldozer

[pulsar fable]

Sorry my bad, the 860k is steamroller, not bulldozer

Doesn't change your argument, just an edit on my part

Still, should I slap an 8tb hard drive and make a home shared storage with that?

[jolly inlet]

The only thing bulldozer had going for it was you could hit 6GHz on air

[jolly inlet]

Sure, why not? That's what I use an old X79 setup for. Plex server and storage.

[pulsar fable]

6GHz
Finally, a CPU to meet all the vague CPU specification for videogames

[jolly inlet]

"8 core 4.5GHz processor"

You didn't really gain any extra performance going super high clocks too, you actually became cache bound lol

[pulsar fable]

Hmm, to have an itx shared storage that's compact or a full sized tower shared storage for raw capacity

[jolly inlet]

I'd go ITX, you can always add smaller size, larger capacity storage later

If that's a 900 series chipset AM3+ board then you can boot from nvme with a pcie adapter

Or you can mod the bios on an older one to do so also

[pulsar fable]

Nope, I have an 860k which is am2+

But I can always use a sata SSD as boot

[jolly inlet]

AM2+ fits into the AM3 socket so I couldn't know for sure lol

[jolly inlet]

There's also workarounds, like putting the bootloader on a HDD that points to the NVMe drive to boot

[shut lava]

I remember the Asus Z11 case getting a bunch of bad reviews in the past. I guess that's why its $50.

The case was a pain in the ass to build in. The included fans were loud. GPU temps were higher than normal. With higher end components, they ran much hotter than average.

Its also huge for an ITX case. It can't hander 3 slot GPUs without the fans being on the glass panel.

[stoic crest]

can't complain for 50 at least

full price? nah

[marsh sphinx]

*$57...there's a delivery fee

[stoic crest]

yes, but still

[marsh sphinx]

i guess...i think that metallicgear neo mini case is a better deal

(but i like air coolers, and 160mm of clearance vs 130mm makes a massive difference)

[jolly inlet]

What about the thermaltake core v1

[marsh sphinx]

i use that one for my office pc...it was easy to build in...the 200mm fan isn't my favorite, and i'll eventually swap out for a chromax

[jolly inlet]

Full size power supply too which is nice in an ITX with support for 255/285mm gpu

[marsh sphinx]

but, if i were buying an itx case rn for a big gpu, i'd go w/ the metallicgear neo mini...

160mm cpu cooler height, 190mm psu length, 345 gpu length...u will want to get fans for it...

(and it's $45 after mir)

[fiery zephyr]

And I just paid 55 for a 1tb mp33 in early March 💀

[pallid geyser]

Return it

I believe the 1tb is $40 now

[jolly inlet]

Is that worth $15 though, even if it is still in the return period?

[fair moon]

Could return and pay $15 more for the 2TB

[pallid geyser]

^ yeah that’s what I meant

[fringe olive]

Would the mp33 make a good game drive?

[jolly inlet]

100%

[light holly]

For sure

[stoic crest]

mp33 keeps dropping in price

funny how 1tb is so cheap now

[molten halo]

I’m over here with my two 870 evo sata drives just sulking

[marsh sphinx]

what about mp33 for music production/boot

🙂

[stoic crest]

It's fine

I mean I boot with sata ssd all the time every day

[cinder kiln]

Most ssd's are good enough for most things

We don't have the iops leverage in windows yet to make it matter

Could I say the same for Linux? Idk, I don't use it 💀

[stoic crest]

lol

Yeah, my sata ssd is a crap tier dramless

The wd green

For a year ago that's decent

[cinder kiln]

That's decent even by today's standards for good 4.0

Not many below $85

[stoic crest]

P41 Plus do finally be here

Priced the same as P3 lol

[light bay]

i just got a sn850x 1tb for $60

ssd prices really are plummeting

[cinder kiln]

Really? Where

Post link

[light bay]

it was on best buy a few days ago

[cinder kiln]

GDI

Why always with the american only store

[molten halo]

I mean my sata’s are in raid 0

[light bay]

back too $100 usd now

[cinder kiln]

Spain without the S

[light bay]

i paid $70 for my 512gb P2 a few years ago 💀

ultimate pain

[stoic crest]

My phone hasn't been here, it's been unusually long tf

[molten halo]

I had those sata drives for a minute anyways so I didn’t really lose anything tbh

[stoic crest]

They always deliver within an hour of status change to "on the way to your route" or something like that

But it's been a few over, ree

Bruh as soon as I decided to talk about it, the delivery guy called lmao

[jolly inlet]

I use 2 in raid 0. They were $80 a TB then, the next best option was $100. They make great game drives in raid.

Back when SATA was actually cheaper than M.2

Before Chia 💀

[light holly]

Does raid offer like faster load times and whatnot for games then?

[molten halo]

Basically doubles the performance of whatever drive you use,

Reads and writes in parallel on two identical drives (raid 0 specifically)

[light holly]

oh wow ok

[cinder kiln]

"doubles" yes but not in all ways

[jolly inlet]

It's not perfect scaling because of overhead but yes there's essentially double throughput and nearly double random performance.

[cinder kiln]

Yah

[jolly inlet]

It takes those two (identical) crappy drives and turns them into one that beats most of the best SATA drives

[light holly]

would there be any benefit to using nvme in raid? Or is that possible?

I mean it's already so fast for gaming anyways

[jolly inlet]

Not any real world benefit, no

Even using a gen 4 nvme vs a good sata drive you barely get any benefit

Windows load times

Assassin's creed odyssey

RDR2, you get the idea

[cinder kiln]

Like a pcie gen 3 to gen 4 moment

Not enough iops needed to really leverage the speed

/limited by the os

[jolly inlet]

Hey you can do a lot with that 1 second less Windows load time

[cinder kiln]

Yes I can

I can blink

[molten halo]

I prefer long load times so I can watch more of my YouTube recommendations

[jolly inlet]

I miss loading screens ngl

Not for open world games, except elder scrolls ofc because they've got lore built in

[molten halo]

Could spin around 3d models

[jolly inlet]

I crashed skyrim so many times doing that

It probably didn't help that I was on PS3 at first until I had a competent PC, which I traded the PS3 for

[molten halo]

My current pc hates running Bethesda games

[jolly inlet]

Well yeah when you've got 300GB of mods that'll happen

[daring depot]

nah even 10gb of mods can burn a gpu

but somehow my 1660super is still alive

[jolly inlet]

My 1060 3GB absolutely hated fallout 4

1080p low/medium and I ran out of vram

[molten halo]

I’m telling you my pc refuses to run fallout 4

[daring depot]

specs issue or does Fallout have something dumb with you

[jolly inlet]

skill issue

[molten halo]

3080ti 5800x3d 64gb 3600

Just a skill issue

[daring depot]

pure skill issue

so much so that I feel like you just need to hit it a littlebit

[molten halo]

Perhaps

[jolly inlet]

I assume you've tried things like verifying game cache to reset it totally back to vanilla

[cinder kiln]

Tap dat

[daring depot]

which windows version

[molten halo]

Windows 10, haven’t made an attempt to run it in like 2 months. I’ve verified and done vanilla yeah

It boots at like 3 fps in 360p

Sometimes…

[daring depot]

thats odd. ive got a good 100fps without mods

1440p too

[jolly inlet]

I don't think I need an intervention yet but...

[cinder kiln]

Did ur brother touch it

[molten halo]

[cinder kiln]

🗿

[daring depot]

dontworry, I saw nothingf

[jolly inlet]

Biggest mod in there is the beyond skyrim set

Bruma looks great so far

[molten halo]

bet you Bethesda releases a modded version of Skyrim with ray tracing instead of the next elder scrolls game

[daring depot]

nah...probably another Fallout game tho

[molten halo]

Eh they teased a elder scrolls game for like 20 years now

[jolly inlet]

I do appreciate that they did the anniversary edition on the 11th anniversary for a game that launched 11/11/11

[cinder kiln]

Every time I think about skyrim now I think about the "WHAT KIND OF GAMER ARE YOU?" meme

[jolly inlet]

It was broken to the point of being unplayable in 2011 but hey it launched, more than we can say about ES6

[molten halo]

I just reminisce about the adoring fan

[jolly inlet]

I've heard rumblings about a new vegas remaster

[molten halo]

Just a reminder both Skyrim and oblivion released on the Xbox 360

[daring depot]

skyrim is essentially gta without multiplayer

[jolly inlet]

Not if you do the skyrim together mod

[daring depot]

like 4 different games on 2 consoles

then 1 game on like 4 different consoles

[jolly inlet]

I bought skyrim a total of 3 times

[molten halo]

[jolly inlet]

PS3 was a dumpster fire, then I had it on PC but didn't qualify for the free SE upgrade so I bought it again

[daring depot]

Permission to Laugh at Fal in J Jonah Jameson's voice

[molten halo]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[jolly inlet]

Hey I wasn't even 20 when I got it on PS3. The PS3 that I bought with my money saved up during basic training.

I was young and dumb

[daring depot]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-j-jonah-jameson-gif-24255460

in all fairness I never got the chance to even play gta properly

[jolly inlet]

Who plays GTA "properly" anyway

[daring depot]

got a ps2 for christmas, mom lost it in the garage

[jolly inlet]

Oof

[molten halo]

We lost the family n64 in a move

[jolly inlet]

I was the kid parents hate. Every time Mom tried to punish me by taking away my games I outsmarted her lol.
Take my PS2 power cord? I'll take the one from your laptop.
Put my DS in a lockbox? I learned 2 different ways to open it. The lock was a joke to pick and the hinge was exposed.

[daring depot]

I was the traumatized kid, because all my data got wiped from my tablet TWICE, once from a total glitch reset and twice because someone threw a phone at my tablet

My parents compensated by buying me whatever I really wanted after

[jolly inlet]

Sheesh I guess phone 1 tablet 0

[daring depot]

it was a Nokia, go figure

[jolly inlet]

Oh I believe it

[daring depot]

idk why my cousins were playing catch with it, but it happened

[jolly inlet]

Nah they were playing catch with it because you can't break them and that's just a challenge to kids

I used to bounce my flip phone off the pavement, ricochet off the wall, and catch it. Totally in one piece, didn't even shut off.

[daring depot]

only phone i truly ever remember breaking was someone's old LG

my phones never broke becasue of impact

just malware

[jolly inlet]

You know I think I still have that flip phone in a box, I bet it still works

[daring depot]

oh that'd be a trip back memory lane

can you...install literally any modern apps on it?

[jolly inlet]

It probably needs a new battery before anything

No it barely had internet

No wifi, only 2G

But damn I played the hell out of the included games

Snake, pool, and bowling

[molten halo]

iPod video and bricks or w.e it was called

[jolly inlet]

It was this one https://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_v195-1457.php

128x160 res

[daring depot]

havent seen an old motorola in so long

2006 jeez

[jolly inlet]

A whopping 5MB of storage too

I had to delete texts to download a game once

[forest prairie]

Hmm

[light holly]

@cinder kiln this hynix?
https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb/p/N82E16820331994?

[cinder kiln]

Unsure. Either a lottery or likely not

[grand orbit]

It's making 500gb drives not even worth it anymore it's funny

[forest prairie]

What's the prices at this point

[grand orbit]

Like 10$ less i think

[forest prairie]

10 whole dollars

Incredible

[glacial narwhal]

not sure where to ask this but i was gonna buy something from a third party seller on newegg who seems to be safe but im not entirely sure

https://www.newegg.com/Seller-Store/Chaoxihuan?cm_sp=seller-store-_-from-pdp-above-title

this is the seller

they seem to have a lot of product sales but they only have 13 ratings

yeah

yeah i gotcha

the price was really low too so that was a small red flag

and someone told me "if it says seller is in China, do not buy it" lmao so i guess thats valid here

arctis 5 headset

i think its 70 on amazon so its still not too bad

sure

ah yeah

i was a fan of the look on arctics really

80 or under preferably

yeah

thank U

having the usb connectivitys p cool too but not really anything else lol

yeah i was using it earlier to compare the 5 to the 3

honestly yeah i think ill just go with the 7 cuz for the 20 dollar difference it has some more features and stuff

and newer (kinda)

thank u tho

appreciate the help

yeah dw, ill keep those in mind too as well

yeah ive heard good things about them

okay

thank u

[dry flume]

rx 6600 is 199 on amazon (only US)

[light holly]

link?

[marsh sphinx]

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Graphics-WINDFORCE-Cooling-GV-R66EAGLE-8GD/dp/B09J2NCD2L/
here's one on amazon

[cinder kiln]

Nvm amazon bugged for me that looks like the one

Best 6600 too

[marsh sphinx]

i saw an asrock gpu on newegg for $200...but, i no wanna link it

[cinder kiln]

Yea
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6600-rx6600-cld-8g/p/N82E16814930066

I'd take the eagle over the asrock

[small token]

Microcenter has a cpl for 199 but none of them the Gigabyte

[cinder kiln]

Eagle barely even tries when it runs

[marsh sphinx]

dunno what makes asrock think ppl want part of a backplate...just put the whole plate on, weirdos

[cinder kiln]

Super quiet card

[cinder kiln]

Oh that's for better ventilation/flow-through dissipation

[small token]

Asrock RX cards all look odd to me

[cinder kiln]

It looks weird though yeah

Function over form moment

[small token]

which i get, but i also do not want to glance over and see an eyesore lol

[cinder kiln]

Entry level card be cheap in it's own ways lol

[small token]

i have an RTX 3060 that i paid $300 for, i am just always looking for that next deal lol

[marsh sphinx]

u can get a second 3060 for $300

[small token]

looking more for something better than a 3060 for a reasonable price

[stoic crest]

6650xt then

[marsh sphinx]

there is also the 6750xt for $310, and the 6950xt for $600...

[jolly inlet]

6950 XT is easily the best deal right now in GPUs

Completely crushes the same priced 4070

[daring depot]

Good lord it's almost 70$ for 3000mbps at 2tb

Maybe faster

[olive lance]

Used 6800xts are great

[forest prairie]

those mfs used?

already?

https://tenor.com/view/santa-claus-aging-old-gif-14680363

[marsh sphinx]

they launched 2 1/2 years ago lol

[grand orbit]

2 years init

[forest prairie]

That's practically the break in period

[jolly inlet]

It's also long enough that the 7600 XT is about to launch

(supposedly AMD is skipping the high-midrange for now and going straight for the lower midrange)

[umbral horizon]

Smart

Can't really buy a 4k display if my graphics card costs 3 months salary and a blessing from its father

[slow sluice]

I don't understand wireless subwoofers

[cloud hornet]

I don't understand wireless

[tawdry dragon]

I get wireless purely for the convenience of not having a wire get tangled everywhere I go

[jolly inlet]

Cable channels are your friend. You can blend the color to your walls too.

[tawdry dragon]

I meant for headphones and such, speakers I am just fine with having them be wired

[jolly inlet]

Oh well that makes more sense. As long as they're not bluetooth, latency is noticeable even to me, the non-audiophile

[tawdry dragon]

I have bluetooth headphones for listening to music and watching videos on my phone (soundcore q30) and I use hyper x cloud core wireless for pc gaming (not the best I know that but they work)

[jolly inlet]

BT is fine for music because latency doesn't matter, but videos can be painful because not all apps can properly sync with the latency involved

[stoic crest]

^

[tawdry dragon]

It's just youtube, and most of the time it syncs just fine.

[stoic crest]

I prefer having wireless tho, more versatile and less latency

YT is known to have issues with bt latency

[tawdry dragon]

Sometimes though, it just breaks and has a 10 second delay for the audio

[stoic crest]

But to use it on phones they have to support usb audio

Otherwise wireless dongle won't work

[tawdry dragon]

I seriously don't get where this guy gets stuff this cheap #build-pics message

[jolly inlet]

Demonmit? Yeah he gets insane deals

And it looks like he puts as much effort into the builds to make them look nice as he does editing the photos to look nice

[tawdry dragon]

I just recently made a build out of some old parts and I'm trying to sell it rn, and I'm seeing if I can make it a business and make some extra money over the summer. I know for a fact if I can get deals like he can I'll be making bank

[stoic crest]

You have to gain reputation tho

[jolly inlet]

Looks are half the value. RGB and cable management can almost double the sale price.

[cloud hornet]

PC looks and pic quality are half the value*

So many terrible pics of okay looking PCs

[jolly inlet]

That too, get good at editing like demon does

[stoic crest]

Specs doesn't matter too much

[tawdry dragon]

The case I built in doesn't have much cable management space, and the cable extensions don't help with it, but I at least tried to make it look decent.

[tawdry dragon]

I know that, and that's why the system has a 9100f and a 6600

[light holly]

could be worth getting a case that you can manage really good and end up with more profit.

[tawdry dragon]

This is the pc (not the best photo, but the best I could do

[jolly inlet]

MX330-G Air is a great case and comes with RGB fans, usually it's around $60

Well, great for the price range

[light holly]

def try and pull that gpu cable into the shroud more if you can

if you have cable combs.. try and even those atx cable out more

[tawdry dragon]

I chose the GAMDIAS TALOS E3 and it's not the best, but it was $60

[tawdry dragon]

Trust me, I've tried

[light holly]

try a bit harder.

Im sure you can do it

[tawdry dragon]

With the side panel on you can't even see the cables because of how dark the tint is

[light holly]

zip ties are your friend

[tawdry dragon]

This case is taller than it is long, and with a massive psu and stiff cables it's really hard to do anything in the case

[light holly]

give it another go and really get it in there.

the cables are durable. man handle them a bit

[jolly inlet]

They're copper core, soft metals bend well

[tawdry dragon]

I spent a good hour cable managing it, and I'm not really willing to do any more. The 24 pin cable is also really annoying since it's massive

[light holly]

that psu cable could be a deal breaker for getting extra money

It wouldn't be for me because I know how to cable manage, but someone buying a built PC is buying it for a reason.. They don't want to hassle with all that stuff

[tawdry dragon]

Fair enough, but I'll send an image of what I'm working with

[light holly]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-kitten-cute-waiting-gif-23792171

[light holly]

plenty of room down there

[tawdry dragon]

There's a hard drive cage down there

[light holly]

how come?

does the PC have HDD??

[tawdry dragon]

hmm

not sure if I should remove it, because someone might want to add a HDD later

[light holly]

nah remove it.

[tawdry dragon]

alr

[light holly]

it'll make the PC look cleaner which will get you more $.

[jolly inlet]

You can always give them a little box with the extra parts you didn't use

[light holly]

If someone is wanting HDD storage, they'll use external or buy a bigger PC

[tawdry dragon]

Holy cow this is thin metal

[jolly inlet]

There's a reason it's a cheap case lol

[tawdry dragon]

the most annoying part of this case is that all the fans have proprietary connectors

[light holly]

while you are back there... ❤️

[tawdry dragon]

I knew that would annoy someone

[light holly]

not annoying.. but there is a lot to be done back there xD

I'm just a cable management junky

[tawdry dragon]

Better?

[light holly]

woooweee, you went full ham on that. Good job!

[tawdry dragon]

Thx

[tawdry dragon]

Pcie cable placement, it's curved because that's where the cables come out of the psu

[light holly]

lots better.

[sonic shard]

@marsh sphinx that is a really nice deal

Freaking 10gb vram under 300$

[marsh sphinx]

it was originally listed on sale at $275, but that listing only lasted for 1-2 hrs...

[sonic shard]

its still at 290$

[marsh sphinx]

xfx just makes nice looking, nice spec'ed gpu's...asrock gpu designers should be forced to do an internship at xfx

[olive lance]

Exos x18 and ironwolf pro 16tb are $240

[polar terrace]

Isn't the 6700 actually a pretty notable step down from the XT?

[jolly inlet]

Roughly 10%

[grand orbit]

Oc formula

Also the 7000 series gaming one is cleann

[stoic crest]

^

[brisk sphinx]

OC formula is so nice

And THICC

[forest prairie]

That looks like a fun shroud design

Not as fun as others but still

Lines and curves go brr

[stoic crest]

green on radeon?

heresy

[forest prairie]

Nvideon

AMDforce

[marsh sphinx]

we can go card for card, and most will look something like this for xfx:

and, this for asrock:

they should call it the "challenged series"

[coral lark]

Yeah i regret getting a 6700 xt challenger d

Has good clocks and mine was a good bin but it’s loud

[marsh sphinx]

and, i'm not trying to crap on asrock...they catch enough heat...but, come on

[coral lark]

Yeah

[marsh sphinx]

u can make inexpensive cards look hot...asrock ain't even trying

[forest prairie]

Don't feel emotions for companies pls

[marsh sphinx]

kinda missing my point

[jolly inlet]

No I think he got it, and added another

Companies are soulless entities and don't need your compassion. Feel free to crap on them.

[marsh sphinx]

no...gigabyte has eagle, msi can make a decent inexpensive gpu...asrock isn't trying, and i love no companies

u guys r projecting

[brisk sphinx]

MSI? Decent inexpensive GPU?

[jolly inlet]

Yeah I get it, Asrock could put more effort in. They chose to cut every penny instead.

[marsh sphinx]

other companies put out cards for the same prices...eagle 6600 is the same price as asrocks

[forest prairie]

The only projection I do is at the movie house

[brisk sphinx]

But yeah the challenged d is definitely sad

[jolly inlet]

"challenged d"

[forest prairie]

[forest prairie]

Envinda

[tawdry dragon]

Yeah, it's this crazy brand on Aliexress

[jolly inlet]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Cryptominers-are-selling-used-GPUs-as-new-with-repainted-VRAM-chips.685588.0.html

[quasi radish]

What’s wrong with this card exactly?

[jolly inlet]

For one there's no such thing as a "new" RX 580 at this point

[quasi radish]

That’s not necessarily true

[jolly inlet]

They were sold through when crypto took off

[quasi radish]

Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some NOS chips left

they always exist 😛

[jolly inlet]

Possibly, but not from a no name brand

Also there's plenty of fake RX 580s that are actually older models with a reflash

[jolly inlet]

Oh I just double checked which image you replied to, the 6600 challenger looks like they left half of the part of the card most people are going to see completely naked

[quasi radish]

I mean, it's a budget card.

I guess they could've spent the extra $3 it'd cost to extend the shroud

[forest prairie]

I want to see a GPU that uses a minimalistic shroud design using metal that complements the design of the heatsink assembly

[jolly inlet]

So is the one above it, which looks way nicer

[quasi radish]

which one runs cooler?

[jolly inlet]

It's a 6600, they're both running cool

[quasi radish]

that's really what mtters imo

the ASRock card very well might run cooler because air is allowed to pass through

[jolly inlet]

The difference is within margin of error

58 vs 60 degrees under load but that's from different reviewers, so margin of error

[marsh sphinx]

i wonder if microcenter would recognize me if i wore groucho glasses

https://tenor.com/view/look-around-drumsy-groucho-glasses-silly-umm-gif-17675181

[light holly]

Me with a 1080 blower hitting 100c hotspot with fans full blast in an airflow case.

Pretty sure it needs a repaste.

[forest prairie]

My blower 970 only does mid 80s

[cloud hornet]

84c edge with 16c hotspot delta doesnt really sound unusual for crabby blower GPU

[forest prairie]

Yeah the tiny cooler doesn't have much to give in the way of improvement

Repasting would just mean fresh paste, no temp improvements

[umbral horizon]

Maybe better quality paste?

[forest prairie]

I really don't think it matters

[fiery zephyr]

Def repaste, my strix 1070ti would hit high 90s untill I repasted

[marsh sphinx]

that's also not a blower card

[molten urchin]

Ok soo o

i have a problem if anyone wants to help

Its regarding about the build i'm doing for an upgrade

its just the GPU

[cinder kiln]

@molten urchin ask away

[molten urchin]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tZpx8r

soo this upgrade i'm doing but the only thing is teh GPU

i mean yess the 7900xtx is good and i look at the bottleneck on the 13700k

its abit up but then i lookin to the 4070ti and read bad reviews about it

[jolly inlet]

If you're looking at a bottleneck calculator, don't. They all suck.

[cinder kiln]

Ok quick question

[molten urchin]

and idk what other gpu is good for it

[cinder kiln]

How much have you bought of this

Build list

[molten urchin]

right now i bought the mother board, M.2 1tb the 32gb ddr ram and the CPU

its an upgrade i'm doing since i have the z390 board

[molten urchin]

with 9700k

cpu

the rest i already have.

[cinder kiln]

Ok, a little confused

Do you have 32gb ddr4 or ddr5

[molten urchin]

right now i have ddr4

[cinder kiln]

Ok so haven't bought the ddr5

[molten urchin]

i bought ddr5 board because i heard running

good

and i have ddr Ram

that i just bought

[cinder kiln]

You bought the ddr5 then

Alr

[molten urchin]

right

[cinder kiln]

Is it the same kit in that list

[molten urchin]

let me put in my old build

[cinder kiln]

64gb 6000 cl32

[molten urchin]

hold on

[cinder kiln]

Nah it's ok

Is it that exact kit tho

Of ddr5

Just want to clarify before I give you a big list of instructions

[molten urchin]

okay

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Vessman/saved/2bvDwP

this is the old build

@cinder kiln

from the other upgrade build i'm doing are the one i'm switching

so the only thing what GPU is good for 13700k

[cinder kiln]

"This list is private"

I can't see 💀

[molten urchin]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L79J6r

my b

ok yeah

because the 7900xtx is good but i need to find what other GPU third party brand is good with it.

i know 4070ti is out of the question

[cinder kiln]

Alright let me clarify something

Is it an sn770 or sn750

[molten urchin]

right now is Sn770

[cinder kiln]

Ok awesome

[molten urchin]

and i want it to go with the new Board

[cinder kiln]

So one more question, what's this pc for

[molten urchin]

Gaming, Editing, Graphic design projects

Some what all the above

but Mid-High end

[cinder kiln]

Alright give me a few minutes

[molten urchin]

but due to the cpu i thing Mid abit high just for performance

and its only for the GPU

i need to figure it out what is good for this upgrade build

@cinder kiln I have these and all I need is gpu.

[cinder kiln]

Ok, you can keep the ram

[molten urchin]

okay

[cinder kiln]

The other stuff I'd take back

And here's what I'd do

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4dcYMb

You'd save a few hundred for basically the same performance in everything

And you can still use your corsair aio

With the 13700k you'd have to replace the aio

Also that mobo albeit good costs a small fortune

For no real benefit over cheaper alternatives

The 980 pro is plagued with a firmware issue rn that's killing them left right and center. You can fix this issue by updating the firmware, but it's also just another case of not really good value

I can suggest a different mobo if aesthetics are your thing but you have a lot more budget to play with

Heck you could probably fit a 4090 if we were smart about this

[molten urchin]

I mean i heard bad stuff about AsRock though

[cinder kiln]

On intel? Yes

On AMD zen 4? They're like, the best

[molten urchin]

oooohhhhh

[cinder kiln]

Equal to like gigabyte

Ya they're very solid on AM5

But the big takeaway from this

You get basically 13700K perf minus a little bit, but you don't need a new cooler

A 13700k can't run on a H100i, not enough radiator to run it well

Let alone that it's old and will have not as optimal heat transfer as the newer ones

It'll run but like, not great

Lol

Meanwhile, 7900 just won't care cos it has a stupid low tdp

65W for the win

It'll run on a stock cooler if you wanted it to

[molten urchin]

also

here and addition i'll be using on my pc is streaming also

forgot to add that.

[cinder kiln]

It'll handle anything you throw at it

[molten urchin]

but i wanted like 6 usb slots lol

also thermal gaurd

[cinder kiln]

XTX is a very good card, it's just lacking in support in a few areas due to adoption

I can change the board

One sec

[molten urchin]

i know

which is why i ask what other cards that i can use if i can't afford the 7900xtx

[cinder kiln]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f3kdKp

I mean, 7900 XT is still really nice

4070 Ti too

Idk who told you certain cards won't run but really they'll all run with this cpu

[molten urchin]

remember i heard cons on 4070ti

linus vid

lol

[cinder kiln]

Since you're doing a build for editing I'd suggest a 4070 ti tbh

Cos nvidia has better support

[molten urchin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKmmugnOEME

[cinder kiln]

It's not the best no

Like, a used 3090 for $650 would be better imo

[molten urchin]

i mean yeah but wanted gaming

[cinder kiln]

Gaming they perform about the same

[molten urchin]

righ 3090 run better than 4070ti th ough

[cinder kiln]

You wouldn't notice which is which in a blind test

Taste?

Getting tired

💀

You could do that too I guess

[molten urchin]

right true

but isn't 3090 quite abit better on 4070ti due to benchmark?

i think 3000 series was better compare to 4000 series

[cinder kiln]

No, they perform about the same

4070ti is a little better

Like, maybe 5%-10%

Depends who you read from, some will say more

[molten urchin]

which is the problem. lol what read it from its there opinion

and making notes out of it.

[cinder kiln]

Well the other thing is a 4070Ti costs 799 while a used 3090 can be much cheaper

Much more than 10% cheaper

[molten urchin]

depends on the third party

and also marketing for cards right now isn't all that great

[cinder kiln]

Ye

[molten urchin]

for example

https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-rog-strix-rtx4070ti-12g-gaming/p/N82E16814126605?Item=N82E16814126605

this is lke 950

[cinder kiln]

Ok we don't ever buy strix 💀

Try a 799 TUF

[molten urchin]

compare 3090 its like 1.2k

[cinder kiln]

Nah man, used market

[molten urchin]

i heard about the tuf

[cinder kiln]

Don't buy one new

Used 3090 goes for sub 700

[grand orbit]

Almost 1k 4070ti? You'd have to be bonkers

[molten urchin]

i'm not much of used kind of guy lol due to other people using the stuff they bought and use.

[cinder kiln]

All 4070 Ti are built way beyond what they are needed to do

So any 4070 Ti is good quality

Even the bad brands

/models

Etc

Cheapest 4070 Ti is the best one

[cinder kiln]

If you're not warmed up to the idea then yeah I'd suggest a 4070Ti tbh

Or if you're okay with less than ideal support for stuff like blender then an XTX is a phenomenal choice imo, the asrock.card is the best and it's also the cheapest

[molten urchin]

note that the parts i have were bought on Amazon and the cpu was bought at the microcenter lol

and you told AsRock on intel doesn't goes well. gotcha

[jolly inlet]

Oh you didn't get a microcenter bundle? Those are great

[molten urchin]

i was on my budget

[cinder kiln]

Either way how you did it man, unless you only dropped like, 700 on the parts you've bought so far this is better

The micro center bundles are awesome yeah

[grand orbit]

That's cheap asrock motherboards usually* not their gpus

[cinder kiln]

You can't beat the micro center bundles no matter how hard you try

💀

[grand orbit]

They gotta be loss leaders

[jolly inlet]

Asrock Intel motherboards enforce the stock power limits and often can't exceed them without direct cooling. Every other brand goes above the Intel recommended limits.

[molten urchin]

right

[grand orbit]

Biostar

[cinder kiln]

Asrock intel also has disgusting memory support rn

[molten urchin]

Which is why my limit brand for Radeon was Power color or sapphire

[jolly inlet]

Biostart grabbing a fire extinguisher more like

[grand orbit]

Huh?

All radeon gpus are good enough no matter the brand

[molten urchin]

Sssoooooooo

[grand orbit]

This gen anyway and almost all last gen afaik

[molten urchin]

this AsRock gpu will be ok on Intel?

[jolly inlet]

Their GPUs are fine

[grand orbit]

Yes the aibs just make the shroud/cooler basically

[molten urchin]

and red devil is kinda thicc

[grand orbit]

Your computer wouldn't be able to tell the difference between an asrock, msi, asus, sapphire or power colour

For all intensive purposes all it knows is intel amd or Nvidia

[molten urchin]

just only the 7900xtx?

[grand orbit]

And the model yes

[molten urchin]

just because its a thirdparty gpu make sense

[grand orbit]

Even first party gpus it can't tell the diff between board partners, same drivers anyway literally no difference on the software side where it could make a difference

[molten urchin]

right

[cinder kiln]

Windows doesn't know

And it never will know

💀

GPU-z knows because it reads the vbios

[molten urchin]

hmmm

this info is good know

and helpful also wow

instead of stressing myself to get the power color

[cinder kiln]

We try our best

[molten urchin]

you did

[cinder kiln]

Ya man, the PG riptide is a higher tier of XTX than the Red Devil

It's legitimately better

[molten urchin]

i appreciate that also i'm still keeping t his build i have and taking it as a grain of salt and optimizing

[grand orbit]

Asrock gpus slap

[molten urchin]

Soo either way about the Red devil the AsRock still slap

even though its OC card

?

if i want to overclock it

and i have good case for air flow

[grand orbit]

Oc just means it has a factory overclock of like 1% if that that you could do in literally 20 seconds yourself

[molten urchin]

for example

[cinder kiln]

Mhm

[molten urchin]

EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC

[cinder kiln]

If you keep the current build, two things,
#1 update your 980 pro ssd with samsung magician. The firmware issue they have is literally killing the 980 pro if left untouched

[molten urchin]

whats xc means?

[cinder kiln]

#2 you'll need a new aio

[cinder kiln]

Just a marketing name

[molten urchin]

Oh ok

I KNEW IT

i do need new AIO just because ofthis new CPU

[cinder kiln]

Ya man, that's why I suggested all those changes lol

You can run the old one with the amd board and cpu

[molten urchin]

i mean yeah but the 3 stuff i bought was from amazon and the cpu is from microcenter lol

[cinder kiln]

And I figured you'd like that cos corsair everything lolol

[molten urchin]

Corsair AIO i heard is really good

[cinder kiln]

Meh

They are meh

[molten urchin]

rpm is like 2400k

[cinder kiln]

But if you like what you have I'll happily work with it

[molten urchin]

but you said about the AIO though lol

and i agree

since its like 3-4 years old

[cinder kiln]

Ya you need a new one

If you stick with 13700k

H100i is good up to 12600K imo

[grand orbit]

240mm aio?

[cinder kiln]

Ye

240 and old

[molten urchin]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JYCD4D/corsair-h100i-rgb-platinum-75-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9060039-ww

[grand orbit]

13600k would do

[molten urchin]

this one i have now

[cinder kiln]

13600K is a stretch

[grand orbit]

It'd be fine

[cinder kiln]

You could

Bruv

Like you with the zero overclocking d15

💀

[grand orbit]

Exactly

[cinder kiln]

Unlike you this man's bought a $280 overclocking board

[grand orbit]

I actually did have oc just linusing the cpu made oopsie

[cinder kiln]

So running short on the aio would be scuffed