windows-ios

[crisp spire]

Unrelated note i wonder if i should add auto updates to the script

I have a method i know will work

[muted star]

is installing new windows 10 on laptop ssd same as pc version?

[crisp spire]

yep

[muted star]

is it possible to installwindows on another ssd from my pc which has already windows on them?

[vestal ibex]

Do you mean by skipping the USB installer and copying the install files directly to the SSD? Yes but it's complicated to do. Basically you turn the new SSD itself into the boot drive for the installer on a small partition at the end of the drive.

[crisp spire]

Or you can clone drive but thats not a great idea

[crisp spire]

@vestal ibex would love to get your opinion on this btw

[vestal ibex]

More features is always good

[crisp spire]

something thatll download and launch the file so u always have the latest version

[vestal ibex]

But the more you add, the more likely you'll have bugs

[crisp spire]

Nah like this would probably be a seperqate file, whose entire purpose is to download and run the file

so u use that to launch the file

[vestal ibex]

That could work but there's a lot of user error to account for

Like how would it handle the file being renamed?

[crisp spire]

to fit the command !bat, im using the same name for all updates which is what is making me think that people might not always keep the most recent file so this file would just download the latest version to a temp directory every launch and give you an option to launch it as many times as long as you have the launcher batch script open

so like all versions since v13 have had the same file name

[vestal ibex]

If you're going to do it that way I'd recommend not having a version number in the name at all

You can have the script itself print the current version number when it's launched

[crisp spire]

thats whats happening rn

!bat

[tidal lintel]

Link to a general windows fixes and scans by Risen
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Windows-Troubleshooting-Utilities/releases/download/v12/Windows.Utilities.and.Fixes.Latest.bat

[crisp spire]

Windows.Utilities.and.Fixes.Latest.bat is the file name

probably should remove latest tbh

but anyway the title for the window that this launches in has version number

[crisp spire]

NVM I HAVE FIGURED IT OUT

@vestal ibex I can have it copy the batch file to a temp directory and run from there each time and replace the main file in the directory you have it in so next time itll auto run the newer version

Its fairly easy too

lets gooooo

Im totally not screwing myself over because this could break other things

Now to implement

I dont know why I only decide to work on this once i start feeling sleepy

[vestal ibex]

An elegant solution

Perhaps this could be coded in visual studio to create an executable file, that way you have error handling (try/catch connecting to the GitHub) and windows gives less weird warnings when it launches.

[crisp spire]

Smart... Any idea how i would have to go about this?

[vestal ibex]

It would be a pretty simple executable,
-Check if local version exists
-Connect to GitHub server
-Compare local version to GitHub
-Download new version, if necessary
-Launch bat file
Error checking can be implemented easily, especially on network connected steps
The exe can be signed, which is quite cheap to do officially (to eliminate Windows warnings) or do a free self-signing (still less warnings)

[crisp spire]

Hmmmm Ill start doing it sounds great

thanks

[vestal ibex]

Oh and the exe can handle asking for Admin privileges too

[crisp spire]

How should I go about converting to exe tho?

[vestal ibex]

It would be a whole new file to pair with your current one

[crisp spire]

Ahhhhhh

[vestal ibex]

You can use MS Visual Studio, it's free

[crisp spire]

I have visual studio

[vestal ibex]

Time to brush up on your C programming

[crisp spire]

Ah well time to get this done

Thankfully C was the course I took this year

Sadly, it tought me nothing except how to write a few functions

[vestal ibex]

Well I'm a tad rusty but I've made a few programs, lmk if you need me

[crisp spire]

Will do! Thanks a ton

Ill start a few extra courses and stuff tomorrow. Excellent way to spend my month long summer break

[sour forge]

@vestal ibex

okay i figured out the issue

its an amd/gigabyte issue

https://community.amd.com/t5/processors/5950x-cache-hierarchy-error/td-p/424619/page/5

basically when the 5000 series rolled out all the gigabyte manufacturers released new bios for the new chips that wasnt stable at all and messed with a bunch of the memory settings

it has the same symptoms as a psu error or memory error because it was dropping power to the memory under low loads causing it to crash

[vestal ibex]

Interesting, that's not something I heard before

[sour forge]

the only way to fix it is to either go in a reset all the memory settings and revert to an older bios or buy a new motherboard

and my pc crashes within about 10 seconds of being in the bios so i dont really have the option to fix things there

its also i guess a problem because gigabyte got a cyber attack and lost a bunch of their downloads or something

either way im going to go buy an intel board

[scarlet panther]

my last processor was 12 years old.

[brittle heart]

ive just reinstalled windows and my key wont work

[balmy grove]

have you logged into an ms account before?

[brittle heart]

Yes

if ms stands for microsoft

[balmy grove]

then you have to log into ms account again on new install

skip the code for now

it's tied to your ms account

[brittle heart]

Oh kk

[brisk basin]

Anybody up that can help me out

Do I need a product key for windows 10? If so where can I buy one or can I just hit that I don’t have one?

[balmy grove]

You can still use it without a key

There's gonna be a watermark on your screen, but you can remove it

or use less than legal ways to activate for free

[brisk basin]

Where can I buy one?

You have a link possibly?

I don’t mind

[balmy grove]

I'll send it in your dm

[brisk basin]

I appreciate you fr

[uneven willow]

My pc wont install windows

Idk what to do

[vestal ibex]

What error are you seeing?

[uneven willow]

It just says no signal

When trying to connect from hdmi

Everything in the pc seems to be running

[vestal ibex]

Does the bios splash screen show?

[uneven willow]

No

[vestal ibex]

Then that's not a windows problem

[uneven willow]

Its an older pre built

Intell inspiron

Oh i see

[vestal ibex]

Make sure you have the cable connected to the gpu

Clear the cmos, and possibly change the battery if it's more than 3 years old

[charred kernel]

Is the monitor set to the correct input? There might be multiple options, like vga, dvi, or hdmi

[uneven willow]

The gpu fans are spinning

[uneven willow]

The monitor is set to hdmi and im using hdmi?

[vestal ibex]

There can be multiple hdmi inputs too, hdmi1, hdmi2, etc

[charred kernel]

Ok that’s good, I was just checking

[uneven willow]

Ok

All the fans and lights are on so i think the psu is fine

[charred kernel]

I know when I have my monitors set to a nonexistent input they say no signal

[uneven willow]

Ya

Idk what to do now

[vestal ibex]

Have you tried what I said? Make sure the cable is connected to gpu and clear the cmos?

[uneven willow]

How do i clear the cmos

[vestal ibex]

If it's an older model the battery probably needs to be changed, a basic 2032 battery

[charred kernel]

Or short two pins together on the mobo

[vestal ibex]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[vestal ibex]

If it's a dell prebuilt it probably doesn't have a jumper

[crisp spire]

dell loves proprietary motherboards

and everything else

[vestal ibex]

Yep, gotta love how the only re-usable parts are the CPU, RAM, and GPU

[uneven willow]

I cant find those pins

[crisp spire]

@uneven willow

they dont exist

remove the circulkar silver battery

[uneven willow]

I have

[uneven willow]

Makes sense

[crisp spire]

in some cases none of those 3 either

[uneven willow]

Cpu is decent i7 8700k i think

I got the battery out

[crisp spire]

pc is unplugged from the wall?

[uneven willow]

Yes

Should i try reboot now

[vestal ibex]

You can but if it doesn't work try waiting longer

I've seen it take 10-15 minutes before

Holding the power button for a few seconds with it unplugged can help drain the power too

[uneven willow]

Should i plug the psu cable in

[vestal ibex]

Sure

[uneven willow]

How do i know when it has reset

[vestal ibex]

Most of the time you'll get a message on the screen saying default values loaded blah blah

On an older GPU you might also check that the port isn't damaged or loose, I know the hdmi on my old gpu is very touchy

[uneven willow]

Also there is a speaker hooked up to it and its beeping if that mean anything

[vestal ibex]

Ooh dell beep codes, that helps actually

[uneven willow]

I made sure to take it out and re attach it

[vestal ibex]

Get a recording of it

[uneven willow]

Kk

[vestal ibex]

Ok 4 long beeps, let me check the code

Memory failure

Take the sticks out and put them back in

[uneven willow]

Ram

[vestal ibex]

yes

[tidal lintel]

leebrenner10#2745 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[vestal ibex]

If that doesn't work try one stick at a time

It might help to blow out any dust too

[crisp spire]

4 long can be cpu as well afaik

[uneven willow]

There is still the beeping

[charred kernel]

In an old computer set up for someone once…. The A channel for memory was dead. So we had to put both sticks in the B slots

[uneven willow]

There is only 2 channels for ram

Should i take the cpu out and check for somthing

[vestal ibex]

Try one stick in one channel, then the other stick in the other channel

[uneven willow]

What should i look for when i do that

[crisp spire]

look for boot

[vestal ibex]

Well it would stop beeping when you turn it on at least

[uneven willow]

1 stick beeps

Time for the other stick

[crisp spire]

in both slots?

[uneven willow]

Wait

The other stick of ram isnt beeping

Wai

Wait

I think its booting

ITS ON

[crisp spire]

try that stick in the other slot?

the one that doesnt boot

[uneven willow]

The ram stick that didnt work?

[vestal ibex]

That way you can see if it's the stick or the slot that doesn't work

[uneven willow]

Ok

So i should try the working stick in the other slot

[vestal ibex]

So if you take the stick that didn't work and put it in the slot you know works, you'll have the answer

[uneven willow]

Its the slot

[crisp spire]

Yep figured

[uneven willow]

It has beeping with both sticks i tried in the other slot

[crisp spire]

ram dying is a very tiny chance

[uneven willow]

Yes

Should i put the battery back in

[crisp spire]

so you now have 2 options- new pc or single channel ram (maybe one with larger capacity)

[crisp spire]

yep

[uneven willow]

Kk

[uneven willow]

Im actually selling this

I have my own pc

[crisp spire]

Well thats solved then

just make sure to put one mem slot is dead in the listing for the pc

[vestal ibex]

As long as you list it stating one dead memory channel then there's nothing ethically wrong with selling that

[uneven willow]

Yeah of course

It has 2 8gb sticks

And its mainly for office or home work use

So 8gb should be enough

[crisp spire]

8 gigs should be ok, yeah

[vestal ibex]

8gb is enough for windows and light browser/office use yeah

[crisp spire]

Honestly curse dell for being as proprietary as it is

[uneven willow]

Kk its on windows now

Thanks so much

Is there anything else i should do

[vestal ibex]

Before selling it? Or just to make sure it works?

[crisp spire]

ive worked with a few dell machines and the last time i worked with one is the only time ive been so pissed off at a computer

[uneven willow]

Yes i have tests lined up

I have it in admin mode

How to i reset it so its new for people to login

[vestal ibex]

Is it on windows 7 or 10?

[uneven willow]

10

[vestal ibex]

Easy then, one sec

Open settings

Remove everything option

[crisp spire]

ffs it didnt even have an internal psu, motherboard looked ripped outta a laptop, board was integrated so heavily into the case, it was the front and rear io, board has 2 sata data ports but just 1 for sata power, a single sodimm slot and a heatsink that makes intel stock coolers look like peak performance.

[uneven willow]

Awesome

Thank you guys so mcuh

[vestal ibex]

Oof yeah I've seen those "desktops" with laptop parts, no fun

[uneven willow]

Legit newegg mods are the best humans for helping people

[vestal ibex]

Always happy to do some technomancy

[crisp spire]

dont even get paid. honestly awesome people

[vestal ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-shucks-bashful-shy-gif-19018531

[crisp spire]

who in their right mind looked at a barrel connector and thought ohhhhh yeah this is whats gonna power our desktops

because i would like to have words

[uneven willow]

Yes

Helped me with many issues

[idle dragon]

Do modded versions of bios exist? For example something that lets you control more things than normal bios does
I have MSI a320m a pro, it doesn't let you control: fan speed, ram frequency, CPU frequency,...

I'd like to be able to do those things without other software

[crisp spire]

im not aware of any modded bioses for that board

but the a320 chipset is usually locked down for overclocking of the cpu

it is also the lowest tier chipset so missing features arent surprising

[cinder mauve]

is it true that you can do the windows 11 registry setup edit to bypass tpm and secure boot?

[crisp spire]

Why go through all that effort when rufus can just make a windows 11 bootable installer with those things patched

[cinder mauve]

i didnt do it

i was only ask

cuz my setup alrdy compatible but i preder to use win 10

[crisp spire]

Ok but im saying you can absolutely tweak registry to bypass tpm and secure boot

But rufus is just easier

[balmy grove]

lol

[primal bluff]

Can someone help me out, so I'm trying to update an old computer from windows 7 to 10. It says update for windows 10 available, restart in to install updates, but when I click restart, it just restarts and it doesn't download or install anything, just restarts.

[idle dragon]

You should make a bootable USB with win10 and start update from there

[primal bluff]

I'll give it a shot

[dawn socket]

Hope I word this right.

Is it possible to install software (like Afterburner/OpenRGB/etc) onto a fresh windows install and somehow make it to where I "reset" the windows as if someone booted it up for the first time? Like where they have to go through the setup process, but the above mentioned software is still installed?

[idle dragon]

🤨 mh?

[dawn socket]

essentially I want to put my own "bloatware" on the OS, but also want the person to be able to boot the PC up and setup windows "for the first time"

that way all that stuff is already on there and they don't have to go download everything

[idle dragon]

You mean like a windows installation with all the files you need already there?

Oh ok

Mmmh

You would need to change the installation so that at windows startup (only for the first startup) it starts an CMD line that "extracts" the files from another folder in the installation usb

Those files should be compressed

Btw I don't know how to do that...
Maybe making a self-destruction CMD line that works for only the 1st startup

However you'll maybe end up extracting files by yourself to save some time

[vestal ibex]

NTlite

You can create a custom install ISO with preinstalled programs

[idle dragon]

[cinder mauve]

Hey everyone this keeps popping up on start up I need some help please? Every start up I keep hitting don't install. What is this crap? Is this some kind Chinese PC invasion tech?

hmm

[cinder mauve]

can I get some help please?

[balmy grove]

can you explain?

the pictures are a little too vague

[idle dragon]

Looks like an app to get AI voice on your pc, that way when you speak it's going to output like an AI voice/robotic voice 😂
Don't know much, I've just watch a small video...
Now I'll try to help you and get it removed

1- you can go on <startup apps> and see if it is there, disable at startup
2- find the file of this installer on your pc (icon should be a black and white dvd) and delete it
3- go to (windows+r) → "shell:startup" if it is there remove it

[cinder mauve]

I fixed it already good night

[trail blaze]

So idk how but my computer now goes into sleep mode I think? The rgb stays on and it turns on by moving the mouse. Can computer be damaged being turned off and on via sleeping ?

[dawn socket]

Is it maybe just your monitors shutting off after a set period of time?

[trail blaze]

@dawn socket no I don’t think that would make only the ram rgb stay on and everything else by but the cpu off.

I never really use sleep mode but I assume it’s safe?

[dawn socket]

Wouldn't be there if it wasn't safe :)

[trail blaze]

I just get thinking of the argument of turning off a pc vs keeping it on.

[dawn socket]

It really doesn't matter nowadays. I know people who run theirs 24/7. I know people who turn theirs off everyday.

[odd hatch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/873056580403339264/994452307905355876/unknown.png

does anybody know how to fix this to install directx

i've tried reinstalling windows, checked for windows updates and optional ones, and tried some troubleshooting methods but nothing worked

[buoyant compass]

Did Microsoft fix performance issues for Windows 11?

For AMD?

[charred kernel]

Pretty sure yeah

I never use windows, but I have it installed on a ryzen and it runs nicely (for a windows install anyways)

[buoyant compass]

Ah alright,

I might install Windows 11 tonight.

[limpid storm]

@topaz pewter second links

run the batch file as admin

press 1

do 1 and 4

[topaz pewter]

Uhh

https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Windows-Troubleshooting-Utilities/releases/download/v12/Windows.Utilities.and.Fixes.Latest.bat

This link?

[limpid storm]

yupperton

[topaz pewter]

I cant load that link either

[limpid storm]

whelp

do the google drive thing but with that .bat file

[topaz pewter]

Im gonna email the driver to myself

Is that ok?

@limpid storm

[limpid storm]

sure

if that dont work use that

[topaz pewter]

Download isnt even working

For the driver

@limpid storm

https://youtu.be/BG8MuciNClY

This look safe?

When i try and trouble shoot i get that error

[limpid storm]

using 7zip would work lol

[crisp spire]

!bat

[tidal lintel]

Link to a general windows fixes and scans by Risen
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Windows-Troubleshooting-Utilities/releases/download/v12/Windows.Utilities.and.Fixes.Latest.bat

[crisp spire]

:)

[limpid storm]

found a bug btw

when going through the network fixes and doing all, the exit button doesnt work afterward

pressed it like 3 times or something

also that beep is REALLY annoying LOL

[crisp spire]

Huh ill take a look

[crisp spire]

It do be

[limpid storm]

i'll see if i can reproduce it

yeah you dont even need to do any of the fixes

just straight up doesnt work on this menu

[crisp spire]

Im actually at work rn but ill take a look once I get home

[limpid storm]

this one btw

ye ye all good

[dawn socket]

Curse you for not being home right this second to fix your bat file.

https://tenor.com/view/panda-angry-stomp-sad-upset-gif-12304880

[crisp spire]

Found the issue

It has been fixed

@limpid storm

Maybe its a good idea to work on the batch file when Im awake and not exclusively when im almost asleep

[buoyant compass]

Anyone know how to fix this?

[crisp spire]

Have you run ddu?

[buoyant compass]

That works for Chipset drivers?

[crisp spire]

No just a question

Have you run it before

Anyway

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/gpu-601

Run that in safe mode

@buoyant compass

[buoyant compass]

I've never seen that AMD Driver Cleaning Utility program.

I'll try it out.

[crisp spire]

Have u ever used ddu before this tho

[buoyant compass]

No

[deft maple]

I was sentenced here by jo

Jp

[charred kernel]

ok

did he mute you

[deft maple]

He did

[charred kernel]

do you know cameron irl

or anyone here for that matter

[deft maple]

I cant type there

😭

He was fine with pic before so im guessing its a windows and software thingy

[cinder mauve]

patience with this is wearing kinda thin, I have tried quite a few vista isos, modifying isos so that they work, etc, and nothing seems to be working, is there anywhere I can get a legitimate reputable vista iso from, atp I can't tell if it's the computer or methodology or the said to be "direct from msdn" isos

current iso is the only one that even got to the installer but is stuck at "Please wait..."

[vestal ibex]

What are you using to install the iso to usb? I have one I know works if it comes to that, I used it to install to my wife's retro gaming PC.

[cinder mauve]

I'm just moving it to it

I use ventoy

[vestal ibex]

I'd strongly recommend rufus, Ventoy will try to boot in UEFI mode and if it can't because the mobo or iso doesn't support it you'll just get a black screen

Windows 7 is the minimum for uefi

Technically Vista SP1 supports it but the hardware has to as well

[cinder mauve]

could use that if I was on windows

I don't use windows anymore

but I've also never really had ventoy have ground breaking issues that couldn't be fixed with a reinstall

and I've installed windows with ventoy many times (windows 10, tbf)

[vestal ibex]

What processor is on the computer you're trying to use?

[cinder mauve]

it's x64 early days

it's not just x86 if that's what you mean

but it's the Athlon I've talked about

Athlon 64 X2 3600+

[vestal ibex]

And were you the one that was using the Dell prebuilt? Or am I thinking of someone else?

[cinder mauve]

yeah the dell

I've already tried dell reinstallation isos

it's the first thing I tried

[vestal ibex]

The E521?

[cinder mauve]

yeah

[vestal ibex]

Does not support UEFI or Secure Boot at all

[cinder mauve]

I don't have any original software for it

yeah I know

[vestal ibex]

So ventoy won't be able to load a uefi iso

[cinder mauve]

was booting ventoy with mbr/bios and it has a secure boot disabled option

[vestal ibex]

Ok, what ISOs have you tried? SP1? SP2?

[cinder mauve]

no sp at all

and sp1

with the reinstall iso

[vestal ibex]

I have an OEM SP2 one you can try

Just give me a few to upload it

[cinder mauve]

I would greatly appreciate that if you don't mind

alright, thank you

[cinder mauve]

many thanks

[cinder mauve]

not letting me download it

fails after a couple of seconds

[vestal ibex]

This is where I got it from, option to download iso by browser or torrent on the right, take your pick. https://archive.org/details/en_windows_vista_sp2_x86_dvd_342266_49_OEM

[cinder mauve]

I think I was able to get it working with XDM

Gave me the VirtDisk error the other Dell ones were giving

yeah VirtDisk.dll

[vestal ibex]

That's such a weird issue. I would still guess that it's related to ventoy, and there are linux ways to create a windows usb. You can even just use DD.

I've never had this issue in the hundreds of times I've installed Windows

[cinder mauve]

I tried formatting the usb and copying the iso contents directly to it

no dice

[vestal ibex]

That doesn't work ever

[cinder mauve]

good to know

[vestal ibex]

There's more data in the iso than the files it contains

[cinder mauve]

I'll try dd then

[tidal lintel]

Lyss#6283 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[cinder mauve]

whoopsie

[vestal ibex]

There's also boot sector info and stuff so something like DD or something that creates a bootloader like rufus would work

[cinder mauve]

always get scared with dd cause

one wrong step and

[vestal ibex]

It is often referred to as Disk Destroyer for a reason

[cinder mauve]

truly

[vestal ibex]

At least in this case there's no risk as long as you use the right dev entry. Even if you switched the if= and of= on accident you'd only have to download the iso again.

[cinder mauve]

Doing dd, "missing operating system"

as in

after doing it and booting the usb

[vestal ibex]

It might be detected as a USB CD drive so try manually selecting boot device from the boot menu

[cinder mauve]

I don't think this bios has the option to do that

[vestal ibex]

It's usually F9, F10, or F11 when the bios splash screen comes up

Occasionally F8

[cinder mauve]

I mean in that sense I already did that yeah

f12

[vestal ibex]

Ah and it didn't detect any bootable device?

[cinder mauve]

I guess not yeah

[vestal ibex]

The last thing I can think of is the good old fashioned burning of a CD

[cinder mauve]

maybe I need to go into cfdisk and set the usb as bootable

[vestal ibex]

You can try that first sure

[cinder mauve]

cfdisk wont work it wants to overwrite whats on the drive

[vestal ibex]

(g)parted can modify partition flags

[cinder mauve]

can't with gparted either

it's grayed out

[cinder mauve]

this is a really odd issue

cause atp its clearly not to do with the isos

its to do with the computer or the boot devices

and I just tried it on a different computer so its clearly the boot drives

but like, ??

[vestal ibex]

Definitely the computer, since DD should have worked at least and they're known good iso files and USB drives

[cinder mauve]

I tried it on my actual pc

still reported VirtDisk.dll error

[vestal ibex]

wha

Idk maybe just put Windows 7 on instead lol

If it runs Vista it runs 7

[cinder mauve]

if the tool I need didn't work with 10 I'm not too sure how much more luck I'd have with 7 but alr

[cinder mauve]

not even unetbootin worked I have no idea

[crisp spire]

Smh falcie sharing torrent downloads? Sus

[vestal ibex]

Ikr everyone knows torrents can only be used for evil

[crisp spire]

Yeah exactly u gotta ban urself for illegal now

[cinder mauve]

well 7 seems to be installing just fine

guess it's just vista being vista

here's to hoping the bios flash tool works on 7

[vestal ibex]

It should, no reason for it not to

[cinder mauve]

it should tho vista and 7 aren't too technologically different

[vestal ibex]

You can even use Vista drivers on 7

The same way you can use 8.1 drivers on 10

7 and 8 are too different though

[cinder mauve]

I see I see

[cinder mauve]

it worked, good looks, thanks for all the help

Windows 7 feels pretty at home on this, maybe I'll just keep it on 7

[brittle heart]

Anyone know if windows 11 is still buggy? If its not should I upgrade to it

[vestal ibex]

Mostly fixed, only a few minor issues mostly related to privacy now but that's not new

[cinder mauve]

if i install these will they auto update to the current version

[charred kernel]

Really?

[last gorge]

no lol

beforce adobe cc licenses were one time purchase and you had to pay to upgrade. the last version of adobe software I used that wasn't a subscription was cs6 and at one point they flagged it as illegal and made me get the subscription

[cinder mauve]

[vestal ibex]

Probably because the only people still using cs6 are pirates lol

[humble sigil]

Anyone recall the old cd/dvd (drive) ratings like 8x 16x 24? Well it's funny to burn a dvd at "100x". Also I was messing around just trying to make an iso from a usb & my test was w/ one that is a bit... aged. Relative has a Dell w/ Vista but a decent i7-920. Worst case it just gets Win7 so I can install drivers to a printer so some stuff is printed out ez, best case is upgrading to Win10. What do ya think? I was gonna just fresh install Win10 but idk about drivers. Don't have the PC model right now btw. Headed over in a min.

[last gorge]

And I got kinda mad because I didn’t pirate it, it was paid for by morgan stanley unless they pirated it lol

[vestal ibex]

Or their key got leaked

[vestal ibex]

You can technically run 10 on that. Minimum requirements are really low, 1GHz processor and 1GB memory. If you've got 4GB or less go for 32 bit.

Also I still burn at lower speeds because sometimes higher ones cause errors

[humble sigil]

Right on. Yea I've seen posts about Win10 on an E8400/i7-920. 1 thing is perhaps making sure VT and/or vt-d is disabled. My E8400 has 4GB but the 920 might have 6GB since those used 3 or 6 slot mobos afaik. I used up my 3 flash drives. Could burn another disc as 32bit Win10 but might not (have a big stack of blank DVDs). -- Heck I should go ahead and try Win10 w/ my E8400 also. Procrastination though.

[vestal ibex]

Make a ventoy USB and turn one into a multi boot, you can have as many ISOs as you can fit

[humble sigil]

sure. I ran it and basically just like so? 2017 Fall Update was just 1 I read was good to try on a Vista machine but I suppose I'll go ahead and get the latest also. Thnx, sure is better than using a 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB for 1 iso each. Small flash drives are never cheap enough to bother with

[sleek cairn]

Anyone in here know how to hook up multiple monitors on windows pc? Using HDMI and in Windows settings it will not detect my other monitors.

[balmy grove]

Where did you connect the second monitor into?

And what is your cpu and gpu?

[sleek cairn]

AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Six-Core Processor 3.40 GHz

geforce GTX 1060

[balmy grove]

Can you answer my first question too?

[sleek cairn]

I have 2 HDMI plugs in the back and like 4 other HDMI looking things but I dont know the name or type

[balmy grove]

Alright, take a pic of the back of your pc and send it in my dm

[vestal ibex]

I'm guessing they tried using the mobo port? And the other ports are DP?

[balmy grove]

yep

problem solved

[vestal ibex]

Super common problem too

[balmy grove]

gotta buy a dp cable

which is just dummy cheap anyway

[vestal ibex]

Yeah you can get them like $3

[formal fractal]

Where can i get a windows key for cheap?

[vestal ibex]

Gray markets that won't be discussed on this server since the origin of said keys is sometimes stolen credit cards

[mortal estuary]

what vpn service is worth my money. im having a really bad experience with nordvpn

[last gorge]

I prefer mullvad but it depends what you're trying to do with the vpn

[thorny condor]

ayo what's the best free (mainly because i am broke asf) antivirus software
and i suppose vpn as well to go along, trying to keep myself clean here

[last gorge]

windows defender is all you need imo, but if you want something else I've found the free version of malwarebytes to work decent for scanning

[thorny condor]

ill stick to win

what about the vpn tho

[last gorge]

in terms of free there aren't many options but you can take a look at protonvpn

[thorny condor]

alr thanks

[balmy grove]

proton is decent

for free choice

[fleet basalt]

Whats the best website/program to test wifi speed??

[spice beacon]

Speedtest.net

[eager yacht]

I’ve used spybot ccleaner malwarebytes

To keep my pcs up for years

[spice beacon]

Cccleaner is basically useless and idek what spybot is sounds bad, windows defender +malware bytes is the way to go

[vestal ibex]

Spybot was big back in the Vista/7 days but largely irrelevant these last years

[eager yacht]

Don’t need em constantly scanning
Just need em to work

Need them to function in safe mode

[mortal estuary]

looking for a vpn that can guarantee split tunneling. nord's split tunneling sucks

[last gorge]

I know express does split tunneling but they are a bit pricey

[night cliff]

should i add 16gb of ram if i avg 90% memory usage? and 80 tabs

[vestal ibex]

32gb is getting more needed for high end stuff

But keep in mind simply adding more sticks will require a performance hit if you're overclocked

[proven pollen]

i may bump up to 32 gigs, little more headroom than the 16 i have now

[vestal ibex]

I'm getting to where I need 32gb myself. If I try to play War Thunder or No Man's Sky, high detail high fps games like that, I get out of memory errors.

I have to play them with nothing else open 😭

[proven pollen]

i have a freaking minecraft server that is modded and needs at least 8 gigs dedicated

that i am a part of lol

[vestal ibex]

Ooooofff

[spice beacon]

You tried increasing your page file?

[vestal ibex]

Yes

The funny thing is NMS thinks it's an "out of VRAM" error

[lusty hornet]

Hey guys has anyone had a recovery bluescreen 0xc000014c I can’t figure it out I’ve looked many sites many videos but it won’t work?

[spice beacon]

Dam that sucks, because ik cod kept crashing on me until i made my page file like 25gb and dynamic or something

[spice beacon]

Do you have a pic of the blue screen?

[lusty hornet]

Yep I do

[spice beacon]

Do you have 2 drives in your pc and took one out?

[lusty hornet]

Nope I only changed the graphics card it worked fine than but after a few minute and 1 reboot it did that

[dawn socket]

Man, I haven't heard of spybot search & destroy in a long time.

[spice beacon]

Well it looks like you need to at least reinstall windows but keep files as looks like your boot file got deleted, usually happens due to unstable ram/cpu

[lusty hornet]

Thats the thing I can’t keep my files it gives an error can’t continue for now gotta go to work I’ll take a look further tonight thanks a lot for the help 🙂

[crisp spire]

I have a singleplayer world that uses 19gb ram

its not modded

[dawn socket]

jeeze

Did you like.. nolife it?

[crisp spire]

I downloaded it

Its the hermitcraft s7 map

[cinder mauve]

Heyo, having some issues with some older hardware and installing windows 10

The windows setup just stops here. Nothing else. Using a USB 2.0 drive to install.

This is my server PC. I cannot use Linux for the server software I need to run on it. It required windows 10. I also need 64 bit, as it has 16gb of RAM.

I'm stuck.

It doesn't reboot, it doesn't power off, it just stops right there. I've tried making the USB in the media creation tool, I've used RUFUS to create a UEFI drive AND a BIOS drive and they all just result in this. The iso isn't corrupted as I've downloaded it twice.

Any ideas? Any at all?

It's an intel i5-650 on a DP55WB motherboard. It's considerably old but has had windows 10 on it in the past.

I'm gonna try the cheat way of installing windows 7 (if it works) and then doing an in-place upgrade to Windows 10

[idle dragon]

Try making a new usb installer / use a different version for win 10 (home/pro)

Or you can try installing win 8 or 11 and UPGRADING wit the usb with win10 installer

I had the same problem some time ago, I guess for some pcs just don't like it

@cinder mauve

[idle dragon]

It'll probably work just like it worked for me

[idle dragon]

Actually you don't need rufus for win 10, you can do everything on the website unless you have specific needs for your win 10 installation

[cinder mauve]

Yeah I've tried this, I've also tried the website AND rufus and both failed

[idle dragon]

Same problem as mine with the HP thin client

[cinder mauve]

I'm also aware that you cannot use a USB 3.0 device with a windows install

[idle dragon]

Idk

[cinder mauve]

No idea why they haven't fixed that but you just can't do it, it'll refuse to install

But I'm using a USB 2.0 I bought specifically for this that works on every other PC in the house (even my mums iMac)

It's just random and weird that it won't work now

[idle dragon]

All usb A types will work fine apparently
Maybe is CPU/motherboard incompatibilities..?

[cinder mauve]

It used to work

[cinder mauve]

Nope. No USB 3.0 USB sticks can be used to install windows, be it 7, 8, 10, even 11

[idle dragon]

Btw if you have problems next time you can simply things by moving the hard drive to another pc, install there and move the hard drive back

[cinder mauve]

It's been the same story for every PC I've ever owned, from a 1st gen i5 all the way to my current 6th gen

[cinder mauve]

Didn't work either

[idle dragon]

Ooh

Just like it happened to me

[cinder mauve]

Yeah my newer PCs use a different bios

It's weird

[idle dragon]

It can always be an option befor trying wit older os upgrade

[cinder mauve]

This PC does claim to support UEFI, but when I tried the UEFI Rufus boot it told me it wasn't actually booting in UEFI

[idle dragon]

Rufus is just broken, I had problems with win7 on UEFI compatible devices

With UEFI enabled

[cinder mauve]

I've never had an issue before

I've used Rufus for the current install I'm on rn

[idle dragon]

That big on screen message? Yeah happend many times
Once it appears it'll appear back again forever

[cinder mauve]

M.2 SSD in UEFI, no issues, with secure boot

Same USB too

[idle dragon]

🤷‍♂️

[cinder mauve]

It's just being pedantic

Well if anything this is a huge lesson to be fricken careful with my PC Parts

None of this would've even happened if I didn't somehow manage to short out that chip on that motherboard I broke the RAM slots on

[idle dragon]

I always had difficulties on windows install on elder systems
For my main pc and my brother's was smooth like butter

Maybe the win10 one is a problem in the installation tool that creates incompatibilities with chipset or other things

[cinder mauve]

aaaaaaa

Why does this mobo take so long to post with the USB plugged in

It's probably gonna fail on the Windows 7 usb too

Yepppppp

wtffffff

I swear I'm gonna have to install windows XP and make my way up from there at this point

Lemme try some stupid stuff

Yeah this isn't taking anything to do with windows

I'm gonna attempt windows XP and then if that doesn't work idfk what to do

This is really weird

When the PC is supposed to get to the boot logo it just... Powers off and reboots. It's done this for all windows based installers

Okay so I'm starting to think there's a hardware issue here

The Linux Mint installer just crashed too

I have a feeling this motherboard is dead too

[idle dragon]

Go for win8

Or 8.1

[cinder mauve]

It won't take any operating system

I think it's a dead board

[idle dragon]

Btw after it's done with the installation try taking out the usb

[cinder mauve]

Bruh it won't start the installation

[idle dragon]

I guess its just the installation or incompatibility

Just try another time but with win 8.1

[cinder mauve]

Incompatibility with windows 7, XP, and linux?

[idle dragon]

Uhhh

[cinder mauve]

Something is fishy here

[idle dragon]

Just try, it may take 20 more minutes but it may be the last time

[cinder mauve]

I highly suspect at this point the board is dead of old age

It's literally a first gen motherboard

I have one more motherboard but I need to pick up some DDR4 RAM for it

Unless I want to work with an older, LGA 775 socket

[idle dragon]

Mmmh

[cinder mauve]

At which point it's just not worth it

[cinder mauve]

I was thinking this at first because the PC is extremely dusty, but I've reseated the RAM a few times now

[idle dragon]

Why it didn't work for you?

What was the problem?

I mean if you have the installation on the HDD/SSD and you move it it should work 99%

[cinder mauve]

It failed for the exact same problem that the installer fails

Bruh the PC just told me the case was open

The side panel has been off for 3 hours now

[idle dragon]

So you have same problem on both PCs...

What is the other config you tried the installation?

Specs

[cinder mauve]

No the old motherboard was working fine

The new one doesn't

The old motherboard that died had a HDD with windows 10 already installed

Trying to boot that operating system on this motherboard results in freezing on the logo

[idle dragon]

Do you have a system with win10?

[cinder mauve]

Or bluescreening

[idle dragon]

Like a working computer

That u use daily

[cinder mauve]

Yes but it's M.2, not SATA

[idle dragon]

Ok, no problem

How much data in it?

GB

[cinder mauve]

Pretty much full

256gb

[idle dragon]

Ok good
What's the dimension of your other HDD/SSD you're using with the failed install?

[cinder mauve]

500gb

But I can't put that HDD inside my main PC

[idle dragon]

Why not?

[cinder mauve]

There's no space for it and no connectors at hand

[idle dragon]

No no problem, you can use it with your case open

Just the connectors out of the case

[cinder mauve]

I literally don't have a cable XD

[idle dragon]

Oh jeez
Motherboards always have one...

Often

[cinder mauve]

It's an M.2 motherboard that I bought second hand so I use the M.2 SSD

[idle dragon]

U sure it is not somewhere?

[cinder mauve]

It came with just the board, no box

[idle dragon]

And they didn't give you SATA cables... Wow

Ufff

[cinder mauve]

Hey I was happy it came with an IO Shield XD

[idle dragon]

The best thing you could do is cloning your SSD to the HDD , your main pc won't be affected at all, the HDD will have the SAME exact data in it and you can then transfer it and delete what you don't need (programs/games/other...)

[cinder mauve]

I somehow doubt that's gonna work at this point

[idle dragon]

It ll work fine

Trust me

[cinder mauve]

It's been so pedantic about an already existing installation, along with the installer USBs I've been giving it (I've started using a second USB now that's USB 3.0 just trying to get past the logo, no luck) comprised of several editions of both linux and windows, and now I've removed all the RAM but a single 2GB stick that I know works, and it's still being pedantic so it isn't the RAM, so at this point I think something else is wrong with the PC or something is dying between the handshake of the GPU and the Motherboard

[idle dragon]

Ok now I'll tell you how to do that, you can do it at any moment (whenever you have the cable)
Download free Macrium reflect, fee trial, not the one u have to pay. After you have it installed you'll want to clone your HDD with some "simple" procedures

[idle dragon]

Will always work

[cinder mauve]

I have Aomei Partiton Assistant, I know how to do it

[idle dragon]

You Colne from that? Ok

[cinder mauve]

And I can honestly say that I highly doubt it's gonna accept it 😅

[idle dragon]

Im just more familiar with macrium because it the best one

[cinder mauve]

Actually I'll prove it, I have a laptop with a SATA HDD in it, I'll just take that HDD out and put it in the server

[idle dragon]

Macrium will work 99% trust me

[cinder mauve]

Fully working windows 10 install

[idle dragon]

Yep

[cinder mauve]

On a HDD that I now have, that I'll put in the desktop now

[idle dragon]

It's the exact same

[cinder mauve]

And watch it die

[idle dragon]

You plug the HDD,
You rearrange boot order correctly
And done

Obviously after you cloned the SSD/hdd

[cinder mauve]

HOLD UP

[idle dragon]

It took me just 2hrs from broken HDD to low speed SSD with 400+GB data
It may take you like 40 less minutes

With macrium obviously

[idle dragon]

Eh

[cinder mauve]

I think my Laptop's HDD is booting

[idle dragon]

[cinder mauve]

I threw the HDD from my laptop into the server

[idle dragon]

Yeah, it is supposed to work

[cinder mauve]

And the spinning wheel logo

It's spinning

[idle dragon]

DONT STOP SPINNIN!

[cinder mauve]

IT'S WORKING

[idle dragon]

😳

[cinder mauve]

IT HANDSHOOK WITH THE GPU DRIVER

So

So

Alright

I know what I'll do

I'll cheese it

I can use this to put a windows 10 installation drive on the internal HDD

[idle dragon]

👍 😎
Now you can connect your other HDD and and clone it with macrium
That way your laptop won't stay without its HDD and win

[cinder mauve]

Or that yeah

That might be a better idea

[idle dragon]

Do everything on the server ofc

[cinder mauve]

I'll use Aomei though because I already have a pro lisence

[idle dragon]

And as I said before you can then delete programs you don't need

[idle dragon]

If it works go then

[cinder mauve]

It's a 20gb HDD lmfao it's got nothing on it

[idle dragon]

20??? 😂 😂

Lol

[cinder mauve]

It's job in my laptop is to run microsoft office, discord, and teams

Everything else is on my 1tb onedrive I get with college

[idle dragon]

Is it like.. what? Uh?
How is it running Windows
Only windows 10 is 30gb itself

[cinder mauve]

Nah windows 10 install is 15gb

[idle dragon]

What? No
Only? I remember win7 used 16gb

[cinder mauve]

It wants 40gb minimum but if you disable the hibernation and page file you can get it down to 15

[idle dragon]

Light install?

[cinder mauve]

Nah, just default install

[idle dragon]

Oooh ok

[cinder mauve]

It complains heavily

[idle dragon]

Now I get why

[cinder mauve]

Because it can't install any updates whatsoever

[idle dragon]

Yeah but how the heck do you install other programs with just 5gb? Lol

[cinder mauve]

My laptop has an SD card slot and I happen to have a 126gb SD card

It's not fast but it works fine for storing images and documents

[idle dragon]

What laptop is it?
I'll probably ask what year is it

[cinder mauve]

Haha it's a toshiba C-850 from 2013

Came with a 1tb HDD but that's been put to use elsewhere

[idle dragon]

Yea

[idle dragon]

Poor laptop

Yeah, I mean
20gb could have been a standard in 2004..?

Lol

[cinder mauve]

Lmfao my laptop from 1994 has 80gb

[idle dragon]

My dad's "server" from about 2007-8 has 3 60gb hdds

[cinder mauve]

although it also has 1gb of RAM and full support for windows 7 so it's a hell of a beast

[idle dragon]

Oh god
That's a lot!

[cinder mauve]

dedicated 128mb ATI GPU

THREE FANS

[idle dragon]

How the heck 1gb?
My grandpa has a 2001 Fujitsu laptop and it has celeron M 1ghz + 256mb ram

[cinder mauve]

It came with 256 in 2x 128

I happened to come across some newer laptops that also used DDR

Both had 512mb

In a single stick

Sooo now it has 1gb in 2x 512mb DDR

Windows XP

Plays CIV 3 like a boss

It even has OpenGL support as far as 1.3

[idle dragon]

The firs DDR modules were released in '98
U sure you laptop year it's right?

[cinder mauve]

It doesn't actually have a date sticker on it, but the copyright was dated sometime in 1990

I'll double check

[idle dragon]

Maybe some older components were from that year

I have a Acer thin pc and it has some parts from 2005, some from 2006 and 2008
Ofc it was released in 2008

[cinder mauve]

Copyright 2003 with 1 year warranty

And typically copyright is around 5 years

So somewhere between 98' and 05'

[idle dragon]

Yeah
That's good
Also for a 2003 laptop would be nice afterall

Guess more near to 2000

[cinder mauve]

All I know is that it's around the same age as me

Man this PC is old enough to frickin VOTE

AHA! A model number... Hold on a sec

[idle dragon]

I guess it is T H C C

[idle dragon]

2000 laptops were kind thicccccc

[idle dragon]

S H E E S H

Thicco

[cinder mauve]

I got a date!

Released March 31, 2003

[idle dragon]

That makes sense
It's "good"

[cinder mauve]

It has one flaw

[idle dragon]

Would have been like an i7 modern laptop

[cinder mauve]

One horrible, crippling flaw

It only supports up to DirectX 7.

[idle dragon]

Bruh

Speaking in directx12

[cinder mauve]

Yeah most of the games from that era were DirectX 9

Halo: CE, Freedom Fighters, hell even the tycoons

[idle dragon]

The good old games

[cinder mauve]

But it'll run CIV 3, Dune 2000 (Westwood's last game before Command & Conquer) and a Rollercoaster Tycoon 2

[idle dragon]

You should start your cloning so that if you have problems you can ask

[cinder mauve]

Yeah I'm trying to get the program installed, it's not in a rush to do anything XD

20GB HDD running windows 10 be like

[idle dragon]

Yeah take ur time

[cinder mauve]

Ayyy the CMD prompt opened to start the install

Getting somewhere

[idle dragon]

Nice

I'm sure the program doesn take much space

[cinder mauve]

I'm doing all this on 2gb of RAM too because I didn't put the 16gb back in before trying the laptop HDD

[idle dragon]

That shouldn't be a big problem

[cinder mauve]

It's so slowwwwwwwwww

[idle dragon]

But wait
How were u running win 10 on the laptop?

1gb ram?

How

[cinder mauve]

8GB

My laptop has 2 x4gb sticks

[idle dragon]

Aaah

For some reason I thought about the older laptop

[cinder mauve]

I just put a 2gb stick in my server to rule out whether or not the 4GBs were faulty

[idle dragon]

THe 2003 one

Lul

[cinder mauve]

Ah yes

My main laptop is a toshiba c850-1gl

Celeron 1000M, 8GB RAM and an intel HD 2000

[idle dragon]

It's ok

How much did you pay for it? 400?

[cinder mauve]

$40

Bought it from an indoor market

[idle dragon]

Wha

40??

[cinder mauve]

Had a fried battery and the screen was cracked

I had a replacement screen and a battery was like $30

[idle dragon]

Yeah but I mean, just the ram could be 40 bucks

Lol

[cinder mauve]

Unfortunately the battery I bought didn't work

[cinder mauve]

a 4gb stick of DDR3 for a laptop is like $6

At least, here anyway

[idle dragon]

Ddr3 ooh
Thought ddr4, that's usually more expensive

[cinder mauve]

It's a 2nd Gen CPU

IT'S DIED AGAIN

I'm

I'm actually gonna smash somethin

It's looping AGAIN

I think I've pinned it

I might've found the problem

When my old motherboard gave up

It appears it fried one of the RAM sticks

I've replaced that stick and now it wants to work

[cinder mauve]

Aight so all I need now is another 4gb stick which are like... $6

[idle dragon]

Have you tried all different slots?

[idle dragon]

Apparently this could be the problem
Your "broken" ram gives ot the same problem as a loose stick of ram

[idle dragon]

What do you actually mean?
Did you try a new installation again or you cloned HDD and gave the same problem?

[cinder mauve]

No, I added that broken RAM back in and the problem arose. I removed that stick and put in a different slot, same issue, that ram is dead

[idle dragon]

Aaaah

So the ram was giving issue with every installation / windows

And the motherboard is fine? All slots work?

That means windows may have incompatibilities with ram (or maybe just the installation tool)

[digital karma]

I have an issue with windows 11 constantly uninstalling my amd chipset drivers and installing the older versions so whenever I try to open amd Adrenalin, it says the current version isn’t compatible cuz I have an older version of amd driver installed. So I have to keep reinstalling the newest versions from their site every time I turn on my computer

Any suggestions on how to fix this?

This issue is on my hp omen 15 btw

[crisp spire]

Disable windows driver updates

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-automatic-driver-updates-windows-10

Heres a decent enough guide

@digital karma

[idle dragon]

@cinder mauve keep me updated on the windows cloning/installation when you do it
If you need help ask

[cinder mauve]

I did it, all good and running now

[idle dragon]

Nice
What about the ram? You bought new one?

[cinder mauve]

Not yet, I'll pick some up this weekend

[idle dragon]

Make sure to not mix it with ur old ram...

It's not recommended

Considering it is a pretty old system overall you could get 8gb 2666

Super cheap

Ah
Wait
It's ddr3 righ?

If it is try getting 2*4gb 1333mhz

[alpine phoenix]

Hey guys, got a situation for y'all. I got an update available last night so I updated it. During the update, the PC shut off. Thought it was normal, until on startup the Gigabyte motherboard attempted to do repairs, with no success. Now, through the windows reset prompts, I can't even get my PC to uninstall the update or restore it either. Microsoft support was asinine, so I'm hoping someone can help!

[cinder mauve]

Lmfao. ALL THE STICKS ARE DIFFERENT.

https://tenor.com/view/burn-elmo-pyro-burn-it-down-ashes-gif-5632946

EVERY PC I OWN HAS MIXED RAM

I find it hilarious that mixed RAM "introduces performance and instability issues"

Yeah.... No. In my personal experience of 15 years, no. No it doesn't. The PC does not care. You may lose performance if you mix speeds, but the PC really does not care if it has 1 Kingston, 1 Samsung, 1 Hynix and 1 MSI RAM stick. Even if 3 of them are 4gb and 1 is 2gb.

They genuinely just do not care. Could just be the fact that they're a older rig but my 6th gen has mixed RAM too. It also cares not.

[humble sigil]

Some people just want to watch the world burn. Most of a mix I do in the past was kingston made within a few weeks of eachother, but technically the same stuff. Literally leaving performance on the table w/ weird mixes but not necessarily a big deal.

[digital karma]

The issue is still persisting

I used group policy editor to disable windows drivers update but it didn’t work

I’m trying the Regedit option let’s see if it works

[vestal ibex]

There's certain memory dies that will simply refuse to post/train timings when mixed. I tried running my b die with my old c die kit and it refused to post no matter what at default settings. You've just been lucky so far.

[crisp spire]

Were they running at jdec?

[cinder mauve]

No idea what that means so

[vestal ibex]

Did you enable xmp or do any kind of overclocking? If not, it was running jedec.

That's basically the officially validated speeds, and it's slooooow. Like 2333-3200 on DDR4 with crap timings.

[crisp spire]

Was xmp on?

@cinder mauve

[cinder mauve]

Lmfaoooo y'all think my rig supports XMP

I did say that this is all really old stuff

[crisp spire]

Thats it then

Jdec with mixed dies is a lot safer than any kind of xmp

[crisp spire]

Doesn't really matter. Xmp has been around since 2007

[cinder mauve]

Not a single rig I have ever owned has ever supported XMP

[crisp spire]

Thats the reason mixed dies worked for you then

[humble sigil]

Saw someone today running 2400c16.

[cinder mauve]

Also XMP was 2007

[humble sigil]

Doesn't mean it was instantly on all mobos and such. Note: mobo from 2011 or 2012.

[cinder mauve]

Yeah for sure

I've had at least 10 motherboards now and none of them supported XMP

[vestal ibex]

AMD FX boards had XMP and those things are pretty ancient by now. I think AM2+ had it as well?

[cinder mauve]

Never used AMD

I'm an Intel guy

[humble sigil]

Oh right on. idk, perhaps xmp was partly overhyped sometimes. on z77 I just confirmed the mem ratio was correct to hit 1866 or w/e and that was about it, although of course I've manually adjusted some timings down. This 10 yr old mobo sure had some neat tricks up in the corner.

[cinder mauve]

Every AMD PC I've had has been a laptop, and they've all had some sort of thermal issue and eventually caught fire.

[wraith sage]

sounds like a laptop model issue

not an amd issue

[cinder mauve]

Nope

My current laptop is the Intel version of an AMD one I had that popped its own southbridge due to thermal issues

And it runs like a charm

[balmy grove]

laptops with amd these days doesn't have issues

[vestal ibex]

Pre 11th gen Intel, memory overclocking was restricted to Z chipset boards so it's very likely you were running jedec

[cinder mauve]

I still very much have trust issues with AMD

[balmy grove]

What issues?

[cinder mauve]

The issues that every PC I've had with an AMD CPU has caught fire

[balmy grove]

bruh damn

I've been mining with my 3600x rig for a year by now and nothing bad happened

[cinder mauve]

My Toshiba laptop with an AMD CPU, southbridge went up in smoke one day, refused to power back on.

A few years later, HP Pavilion DV7, burnt itself so badly it's screen broke. Never worked again, shame too it was a great laptop and really powerful.

Another HP Pavilion, 3 years ago, got so hot it melted the underside of its keyboard, breaking the entire left side of the keyboard. Then proceeded to catch on fire after I took it apart to replace the keyboard. All I did was plug the keyboard back in with it turned off.

Never owned an AMD desktop. I like Intel's HD Graphics.

I use Intel's QSV technology for stream encoding

Takes a huge load off my GPU

[balmy grove]

That's all the age when amd was genuinely bad for laptops

I understand why you have such issues

But that honestly doesn't apply to anything modern anymore

[cinder mauve]

I mean the HP DV7 had two fans for its CPU

Idk how it got that hot

And the other HP was literally 3 years ago

They still sell them at PC World, I picked up the same HP model with an Intel Celeron for the same price

[balmy grove]

pavilion dv7 was bad anyway

so like using something hotter than intel is obviously gonna have problems

it's not amd's fault, but the laptop design rather

[cinder mauve]

Hell no the DV7 was amazing

I'm looking for another one

Mine had a triple core Phenom CPU at 2.6ghz

And a dedicated GPU

[idle dragon]

CPU is not 100% load and you're probably using a chonk cooler for the 3600x, laptops have really small heatsinks

[balmy grove]

DV7 had not good cooling lol

And it had hinge problems

[balmy grove]

It's literally a dinky alu cooler

And yes while that's true, the point doesn't apply to modern amd laptops anymore

[idle dragon]

Modern amd look good, they're power and temp efficient

[balmy grove]

I hate my bro's laptop with a4

And my decision to get one for him

It runs so goddamn hot

The dgpu never wants to be used for some reason

[cinder mauve]

I never had issues with the hinge but it's cooling wasn't amazing - But I solved it by having a cooling pad with fans on it plugged into the USB. Stopped thermal throttling, and I replaced its thermal paste with some good stuffs

[idle dragon]

My cousin has a Acer nitro 5 with i7 7th gen and one month ago it started getting to 90C wit fan 100% speed
He repasted it and dropped to 63C with fans spinning maybe 50-60%
So
Every laptop can overheat/heat up a lot if you don't clean it
if the cooler is the problem then it's not your fault

[spice beacon]

Sounds like the power supplies problem or you left it on a soft surface like a sofa/bed or carpet

[spice beacon]

You like Intel's igpu good one

[cinder mauve]

They were all laptops on a wooden desk

[cinder mauve]

And yes. I do

I like their QuickSync Video technology

[spice beacon]

Then they where poorly designed none of which is amds fault, you should have contacted hp for compensation tho

[cinder mauve]

Yeah nah

All outside of warrenty

[spice beacon]

Also yeah quicksync is cool but eh

[spice beacon]

Doesn't matter they shouldn't be setting on fire in or out of warranty

[cinder mauve]

Quicksync allows me to use my iGPU to encode my twitch streams and take the load off my GPU, which can give me upwards of 20+ fps in game while streaming

[cinder mauve]

But the odds of them actually caring?

The DV7 was nearly 5 years old

And the newer HP caught fire when I took it apart so they'd say it's my fault

[spice beacon]

you could have probably taken action against them if they didn't help you, their product causing a fire is a huge safety concern

[cinder mauve]

I mean all I did was plug in a new keyboard while the system was powered off, unplugged, and had no battery, but when I turned it back on it smoked

I've had an asus catch fire before tbh

[spice beacon]

Not an issue with 16 series + nvenc

[cinder mauve]

Blew a fuse coming from the battery

[cinder mauve]

Yeah but the 16 series is massively outclassed by the 10 series.

[idle dragon]

Not CPU problem then
If the battery catches fire....

[spice beacon]

Eh depends on the card lol

[cinder mauve]

The 1080-TI still stands toe-to-toe with even the 3070

[spice beacon]

Lmaooo

No

3060

[cinder mauve]

The battery didn't catch fire. The motherboard did.

[spice beacon]

Still hps problem

[idle dragon]

Could have happened to any laptop

If it was a CPU problem the pc would have shut down at 95/105C

[cinder mauve]

I mean the numbers don't lie with the 3060. Sure this is isn't the best comparison website but like, hah, funny.

+38% for a card nearly a decade older?

[spice beacon]

UBM SUCKS

!ubm

[tidal lintel]

`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
Want to know more?: https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg`

[cinder mauve]

I JUST SAID IT SUCKS WHEN I POSTED IT

[idle dragon]

Btw 1080ti is Q3 2016

Not that old

[cinder mauve]

Yeah it's 3 years off a decade

Well.. 4

[spice beacon]

No you said it isn't the best

[cinder mauve]

That's universal for "It bloody sucks"

[spice beacon]

5 years is only half a decade btw

[spice beacon]

Uh no

[idle dragon]

I'd have went for a 1080ti instead of 2080 if it was not 500€ used

[cinder mauve]

Honestly I want a 1080-ti

[idle dragon]

But GTX = bruh
(Because I can't use Nvidia canvas) 💀 💀

[cinder mauve]

Those things are old but 12gb of VRAM and that kind of performance?

[idle dragon]

11

Gb

It's still good for most games

[cinder mauve]

Potato Tomato

The 1080TI would get me through everything I ever play

Hell my R9-280x got me through everything I play and that's equivalent to a GTX 660

Maybe closet to a 7 series actually

Idk I never really looked it up

[spice beacon]

Okay?

They are pretty cheap now anyway

[cinder mauve]

But yeah I use UBM whenever I buy anything just purely for the user reviews

I don't buy based off the raw percentages

I compare how many people use the card vs how many of those people posted a good review about it

You can give me a 3090 tomorrow but if people tell me it's gonna die after a few months then I'm gonna take a 3080

I might be worse off performance wise but at least I know it'll last long enough for me to afford better

[idle dragon]

Make sure to have a good CPU too
If you want upgrades
You dont really want bottlenecks

Ram and PSU too

[cinder mauve]

Ehhhhh

The 6th gen threw me

I'm used to being able to overclock on a B series

But noooooo

You can only overclock on a Z series now

Which cost like

$50 more

[idle dragon]

That's why intel sucks for oc
I prefer AMD
(Opinion)

[cinder mauve]

Yeah but with my bad experience with AMD they've kinda ruined the chances

Also

[spice beacon]

Please don't everything about ubm is utter garbage

[cinder mauve]

I'd prefer to accidently bend a pin on my $75 motherboard and not my $175 CPU

[cinder mauve]

And that is your opinion. The reviews from people on the site about their cards are good enough for me

[balmy grove]

how da heck is 1080ti faster than 3060

[spice beacon]

That's just not gonna happen unless you give it a bath while it's on or something

[cinder mauve]

It was an example

[spice beacon]

No it's fact

!ubm

[tidal lintel]

`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
Want to know more?: https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg`

[spice beacon]

Read ^

[cinder mauve]

If you're going off RAW performance, yeah. But obviously the 3060 pulls ahead with DLSS, Raytracing, etc

[balmy grove]

what no

[spice beacon]

No it's not

[balmy grove]

even in raw perf it beats it

[cinder mauve]

It's still my opinion and I trust the reviews, not the percentages