Asrock b650m
#windows-ios
zinc oak
vestal ibex
Dead On Arrival
Sometimes it's even perfect coming from the factory but during shipping a truck driver hit the brakes too hard, causing the pallet to shift enough to cause just enough damage to the board to cause a minor issue.
zinc oak
So basically he said everyone can get a doa
Lmao
Buying a pc is like a risk game lolol
Too funny
vestal ibex
Even buying a prebuilt you get the same risk. Or a phone. Any tech.
(arguably even more risk of DOA with prebuilt due to shipping challenges)
zinc oak
Welp
Hopeless
Lmao
Just gonna buy a new cable
If this don’t fix issue
Rip 2 grand pc
Down the drain
Lololololol
Never purchasing these specs again
So complicated
balmy grove
It won't be down the drain
If mobo is really doa, there's always warranty
You can rma and wait for them to send a new board back to you
zinc oak
lol
dawn socket
It's not as bad as it sounds. It sucks, but that's just how it works sometimes.
zinc oak
Yeah
Yk what
I rlly gotta quit being stubborn and impatient
To experience the absolute satisfaction of this beast of a pc I need to acquire the virtue of patience
And realism
Ima just trust the process and the knowledge of these people
And go step by step
To get this pc running how it’s supposed to
Apologies for constant complaints
dawn socket
I rlly gotta quit being stubborn and impatient
I totally get this. I have a brand new z790 Mobo and highly ocable DDR5 ram just sitting here on my desk waiting for the CPU to get here. I've been waiting a month already with another 2-3 weeks expected wait.
zinc oak
Relatable
I waited over 2 weeks for every part to arrive
Now it’s been past 2 months
And still can’t ACTUALLY use this pc normally
Lmao
We are targeted individuals I swear
foggy river
my network seems to be cutting out every few seconds
i don't know why but it's really annoying
i dualboot windows and linux, and it doesn't do this on linux
it makes playing multiplayer games really annoying because things would just stop happening for a bit
vestal ibex
Probably drivers if it's only in windows
What motherboard is it? I'll find the latest drivers, not just the ones from the vendor site
vestal ibex
B460M DS3H
Windows 10 or 11?
Well here's the download page. Pick the auto installer that matches your Windows version. https://www.realtek.com/en/component/zoo/category/network-interface-controllers-10-100-1000m-gigabit-ethernet-pci-express-software
foggy river
windows 10
alright i'll give it a try in a bit
should i try this or download one for RTL8821CE
because in device manager its listed as RTL8821CE
foggy river
Well here's the download page. Pick the auto installer that matches your Windows...
is this for ethernet only cus i do wifi
vestal ibex
That would have been good to know from the start lol
vestal ibex
is this for ethernet only cus i do wifi
Wifi https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/19351/windows-10-and-windows-11-wi-fi-drivers-for-intel-wireless-adapters.html
Bluetooth https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/18649/intel-wireless-bluetooth-for-windows-10-and-windows-11.html
foggy river
installing it didn't do anything
vestal ibex
As in nothing pops up at all?
foggy river
well it does the install and then finishes
but nothing changes
still doing the thing
i even uninstalled the drivers i currently had and installed the new ones from the link you sent
nothing
vestal ibex
See if the same thing happens when the signal is stronger
foggy river
is the signal weak?
vestal ibex
I can't really tell just from that graph but it could be
foggy river
could it possibly be windows defender?
i read something that windows defender does weird networking things sometimes
i can also try doing a bios update, i don’t think i’ve updated the bios since i first got the pc
vestal ibex
Possibly, it does scan incoming data at least
Bios would be a good call
It's kinda the backbone of everything
foggy river
my dad says it could be something funky with the PCI firmware
i’m not sure, it’s super weird that it’s fine in linux though
vestal ibex
Linux uses an entirely different driver stack and kernel so it interfaces with the firmware in entirely different ways
vestal ibex
It could be, it's worth updating to try since it doesn't take much effort
foggy river
yeah and it’s good to keep it up to date
it just scares me a bit cus i don’t wanna brick it but i don’t get power outages so i should be fine
vestal ibex
Eh, honestly with bios I usually don't update unless I need to because of an issue or if I need a new feature.
Same with GPU drivers.
foggy river
i’ve heard it’s good practice to update the bios often but i kinda agree with you
if it works it works yk
on linux there’s no automatic updates for gpu drivers either
so i don’t really prioritize being on the latest version cus it’s a hassle
vestal ibex
If you're on a newer platform absolutely update the bios every 6 months or so at least for the stability updates, but on mature platforms like yours that's much less of a problem.
vestal ibex
It's a rather general term. In this case your CPU and memory standard are fairly old (by computing standards) so they wouldn't suffer from too many issues.
foggy river
ah i see
yeah i got the pc a while ago and it’s been holding up pretty nicely since
oh yeah i forgot to mention
a week ago i did try to change the band of my network driver or something
i forgot the number, 802 something, but i changed it from auto to 802 “a”
i think that’s a 2.4 ghz band?
foggy river
it actually made the stutters less frequent
but it came at a cost of having horrible download speeds
vestal ibex
Reducing the transmission rate of packets would make it more stable lol
foggy river
lol
yeah it wasn’t a good fix though
cus it made everything stable but slow
i’ll try the bios update soon
i’ve never updated my bios before so i’m not really sure how to do it, i assume there’s an option in my bios menu
vestal ibex
You'll need to download the latest version from the motherboard support site and extract it to a usb drive
foggy river
oh nice
foggy river
what does the v2-y1 mean in this screenshot
seems to be missing from the file name of the zip you sent
vestal ibex
Nothing important in this case
vestal ibex
Sometimes gigabyte will have different board revisions with slightly different features, requiring a different bios, but not in this case
foggy river
ah i see
my dad also said that to him, it looks like windows is trying to send more packets than the network card can handle
he suggested i compare network settings between linux and windows
hopefully one of these fixes will fix it because if they don’t then idk
vestal ibex
my dad also said that to him, it looks like windows is trying to send more packe...
That's extremely unlikely since the PC and the router have a process to figure out what the max transmission rate would be for a given signal strength, and this is recalculated every few seconds.
foggy river
oh interesting
vestal ibex
And it looks like the max theoretical transmit/receive rate on your card is 433Mbps
foggy river
i’ve never seen it go that high before
vestal ibex
That's assuming ideal conditions, like 2 feet away from the router conditions lol
foggy river
yeah that makes sense lol
idk what this means
turns out the v2-y1 matters
ok i updated it, bios menu looks so different now lol
foggy river
it didnt fix anything
vestal ibex
Dang
You can always try resetting the network stack, sometimes that helps
In an admin command prompt,
Type *ipconfig /release* and press Enter.
Type *ipconfig /flushdns* and press Enter.
Type *ipconfig /renew* and press Enter. (This will stall for a moment.)
Type *netsh int ip reset* and press Enter. (Don’t restart yet.)
Type *netsh winsock reset* and press Enter.
Then reboot
foggy river
actually i think i fixed it
for some reason the bios update installed some GIGABYTE APP center
and installing the wifi drivers through there seemed to fix it
now it doesn’t cut out
foggy river
that graph makes me so happy
light trail
hey guys, im having this issue where my laptop when connected to hdmi with a display, does not use nvidia; it uses intel graphics and im not able to play games
vestal ibex
Disable your iGPU in bios
light trail
how
vestal ibex
It'll slightly hurt battery life but it'll make sure you're using the dGPU
Every brand has a different bios, what model do you have?
light trail
lenovo ideapad 320e
its discontinued for now but it was ahead of its time
it had a really nice pricepoint
@vestal ibex
vestal ibex
Looks like it's the typical ultra-restricted Lenovo bios sadly. You can try setting the nvidia settings so it defaults to the high performance GPU.
But it's entirely possible that it just won't work like foxy said
light trail
@vestal ibex @balmy grove i have recorded a vid, want to have a look?
vestal ibex
That doesn't work too well for me on mobile
light trail
frend me
vestal ibex
Might be because of the anti spam filter on discord
light trail
whats that?
vestal ibex
light trail
oh hell yeah once my account got infected, and started to send fake nitro messages automatically
it was like last year
is there any channel where i can send the vid
vestal ibex
You can try here
vestal ibex
It still doesn't load like I said
vestal ibex
Yeah and it doesn't even embed because it's mp4 so it wants to download, but it freaks out when I try to download anything on discord
vestal ibex
Pixel 6 but I think it's a discord issue, like so many others
Embeds don't load either
light trail
ya
pixel 6 is new
like kinda new
so the phones dope
its discord causing the trouble
avi video
lets see if this loads
@vestal ibex
vestal ibex
Download failed
balmy grove
I have this same situation with my laptop when I was taking it for a spin with a tv
The dgpu wouldn't get used
light trail
sad 😦
so i need to use the laptop display only
right?
@balmy grove
the hdmi faces frame drops
balmy grove
Yes
light trail
ok, thanks a ton!
cinder mauve
always getting the MAS powershell script back out
can't hold me back fr
back to pro edu
balmy grove
shh, we don't mention that here
woven briar
windows defender keeps crashing what could be the issue?
vestal ibex
windows defender keeps crashing what could be the issue?
Try the windows repair script in the pins. If that doesn't work you might need a PC reset or reinstall. Once you have it started you'll hit 1 and then 1 again.
somber berry
@vestal ibex sorry to brother you again but could you help me again? i freshly instale Windows and updated all the systems and im installing the mobo drivers but it just blue screens and theres no code or it restarts way too fast to see the code
and my browser tabs keep hanging up for some reason
now it's freezing like crazy and crashing
vestal ibex
<@396513761550270464> sorry to brother you again but could you help me again? i ...
Unexpected kernel mode trap is usually a hardware error
somber berry
Unexpected kernel mode trap is usually a hardware error
what hardware is it linked to again?
vestal ibex
That error is a generic hardware error so it could be anything
somber berry
guess ill find out eventually
vestal ibex
guess ill find out eventually
It may be a generic error but in my experience it's often something CPU related, whether that's the CPU itself, the pins are bent, or the motherboard. It still could be anything, even a misbehaving GPU I've seen trigger it.
somber berry
It may be a generic error but in my experience it's often something CPU related,...
yeah the issue is that its not the only stop code i get, its the same codes i had before changing motherboards kernel sec failure, apc index mismatch, etc
cinder mauve
loop
vestal ibex
There's a repair script in the pins you can try
If that doesn't fix it then DM me the contents of C:/Windows/Minidump and I'll analyze the crashes
zenith vigil
I’ll do my best it’s crashing and it’s not responding quickly
vestal ibex
You can try loading into safe mode, if it's caused by a driver that'll prevent crashing
That'll also help narrow down the problem. If it crashes in safe mode it's probably hardware.
somber berry
could i get any help? i wanna use my wifi card and im trying to install the drivers rn but opening the asussetup dosent do anything
vestal ibex
could i get any help? i wanna use my wifi card and im trying to install the driv...
Run install.bat
zenith vigil
My system isn’t connecting to the WiFi anymore
somber berry
Run install.bat
just opens cmd and closes it inmediatly and nothing happens
wait nvm
i just checked wifi settings
vestal ibex
You can bypass the installer by going into device manager and telling the wifi card to update, pointing it at this folder
somber berry
You can bypass the installer by going into device manager and telling the wifi c...
it shows the wifi networks but it cant connect to them
zenith vigil
If that doesn't fix it then DM me the contents of C:/Windows/Minidump and I'll a...
How do I find this?
vestal ibex
In file explorer
Go to C:/Windows
Copy the Minidump folder to the desktop
Right click the new folder on the desktop, and add it to a zip
And send the zip
zenith vigil
And send the zip
sent
vestal ibex
Starting analysis
Ok those are all pointing straight at the kernel, so it's one of 3 things. Windows is corrupted, the drive is bad, or the memory is bad and presenting as a kernel issue.
zenith vigil
kernal?
zenith vigil
how would i identify it?
what seps can itake?
i updated the bios earlier than the problem occured
vestal ibex
Install windows to another drive if you can, that'll narrow it down
If it still crashes on a different drive, it's hardware
If it doesn't crash, it's windows or the drive
zenith vigil
It worked when I Manuel booted from the boot drive but now I’m in safe mode, what option would I choose?
zenith vigil
vestal ibex
So it's crashing in safe mode?
That would indicate a probable hardware issue, either the drive or something else like memory
zenith vigil
zenith vigil
That would indicate a probable hardware issue, either the drive or something els...
Hard to tell which hardware
zenith vigil
I don’t have extra parts
vestal ibex
Ask a friend to borrow theirs for testing, or start sending in parts for RMA to get replacements until you find the right one
zenith vigil
Alright
Would affect the the second display not working and not detecting it. It work for a quick minute
vestal ibex
It could affect that
vestal ibex
Chkdsk only tells you if there was bad sectors and if they contained data, or if there's "lost" files. Very specific types of failures.
zenith vigil
Alright, I’ll start swapping parts, I’m taking a break from this for now
bitter salmon
Hmm does anyone know why I'm unable to use the end task feature that allows you to end tasks through the taskbar in the latest canary preview? it seems like it's no longer exists in the latest canary preview and even if I enable it via ViVeTool it won't do anything
spring glen
Hey is there anyone that could possibly help with a driver issue im having. I have an Aorus GC-WBAX210 wifi card that has bluetooth capabilities. I was able to use it once on my tower but it randomly disabled itself. In the process of trying to re-enable it I ended up deleting it directly from my device manager never to be seen again. I have tried reinstalling the drivers from both the manufacturer and Intel and it still will not appear in my device manager. I also want to add that I fully reset my tower to see if the bluetooth drivers would reinstall themselves as well
vestal ibex
You tried the driver from this exact page? https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/18649/intel-wireless-bluetooth-for-windows-10-and-windows-11.html
And what do you mean by a full reset? What method did you use?
spring glen
I used that website and Aorus's website to download the driver. As for the full reset I did a complete factory reset through windows where it asks if I want to keep my files or complete remove everything. I chose to remove everything
I do want to add that through my Control panel the software for Bluetooth is in my system
spring glen
You tried the driver from this *exact* page? https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...
So I fixed it somehow. I swapped PCIE slots with my wifi card and now i have bluetooth again I appreciate the help!
vestal ibex
That was actually going to be my next suggestion lol. It works because that forces the system to re-address the card and effectively forces it to install it like new.
tall shoal
Is it ok to replace shut down with sleep on a computer? I’m doing rn so I can keep some programs on when I come back to it but idk if it will affect anything long term
vestal ibex
Sure, you can still shut down when you need to
If you get weird behavior reboot and see if it fixes it
somber berry
can someone help me? i can't connect to any wifi networks Even tho i plugged in my pc's motherboard antenna and i have the drivers for it too
it only connected to mh phone's data
arctic verge
can someone help me? i can't connect to any wifi networks Even tho i plugged in ...
Your network ssid hidden?
somber berry
Your network ssid hidden?
nah it was a stupid fix, i had the wrong password because i forgot we changed it, but windows just proceeded to connect and say error instead of wrong password lol
arctic verge
💀
wraith timber
https://tenor.com/view/bsd-star-trek-error-blue-screen-of-death-frustrated-gif-7...
I love the UI design on these star trek computers
So crispy
vestal ibex
Not ergonomic at all tho
Imagine typing on a giant tablet for 8 hours a day
Everything should be thought controlled by that era smh
zenith vigil
Need help, my PC is running dual monitors and the second screen won’t display, detecting no internet connection, when it’s connected to Ethernet. And NZXT Cam not detecting GPU. I changed it to another PCI slot and it worked temporarily. Then it’s back on its BS again.
I updated the bios before these problems occurred.
Would a improper installation on BIO update cause an issue?
vestal ibex
If the bios update was that badly damaged it probably wouldn't boot at all. That's either Windows acting up or the motherboard itself, much more likely Windows.
zenith vigil
If I. Do a reset on the bios or down grade to the previous bio update would it work?
zenith vigil
arctic verge
If I. Do a reset on the bios or down grade to the previous bio update would it w...
unknown. best bet is to do a fresh install of windows
zenith vigil
unknown. best bet is to do a fresh install of windows
I updated to the old bios update and it worked for now. I’ll see if it messes up again
arctic verge
oh did this problem happen only after the bios update?
zenith vigil
yeah
like it's working now, but it creashed again with no code then it didnt detect the gpu nor the internet. not sure if what is malfunctioning so far
to scared to restart my PC again lol
arctic verge
i mean
you should, and if it does have problems, then we know it probably isn't the bios
and if it doesn't then it probably was the bios update causing problems
zenith vigil
you right
Got this code
Then the NZXT cam doesn’t detect and the second doesn’t appear
When I restart it again
arctic verge
yeah i'd reccommend reinstalling windows to see if that fixes it
arctic verge
have you reinstalled windows yet
zenith vigil
I got blue screen try to do it
Would I reinstall into the same drive or get a new one?
vestal ibex
Do the same drive if you can. If you still have issues then try a new drive. If you still have issues then it's something deeper, like bad memory or motherboard.
vestal ibex
That's fine
vestal ibex
It's sounding like bad memory to me
zenith vigil
ram? or drive?
vestal ibex
ram
vestal ibex
I'd try running Linux off a USB first and if it fails too you know it's a hardware issue
arctic verge
did you check your ipv4 settings
your adapter settings
make sure that both are set to obtain it automatically
or set it manually if you know what ip is free and such idk
also make sure your router is working properly, as well as the dhcp server
might as well restart the router
i'm assuming you're at home, so chances are your dhcp server is on the router
zinc oak
make sure that both are set to obtain it automatically
or set it manually if yo...
It’s set exactly as that
Been set to that
Restarted router and stuff multiple times
The issue still occurs
It’s like whenever I’m running a game or a program for a while it randomly disconnects me from Ethernet
And tells me those two issues
And I’m Forced to restart pc
I’m tryna make this issue permanently disappear
vestal ibex
Well if you want it to permanently disappear there's always add in cards or USB to Ethernet
Guessing that new cable didn't fix things
So it's probably a bad port
arctic verge
oh driver reinstall has been attempted it seems
yeah possibly a bad port, or even controller
though if it only starts having issues after a little while of using it, it probably is a bad controller?
vestal ibex
Yep this has been a problem for a while now
It could be the controller or the port, either way it either needs an add in card/USB or a RMA.
Something like this, $15 https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-1000Mbps-Gigabit-Ethernet-supported/dp/B003CFATNI
It's low profile so it won't block your GPU too
zinc oak
try reinstalling your network adapter drivers
done that prob about a million times now
restarted, reinstalled, reupdated
everything
and it STILL goes on
arctic verge
a physical connection, assuming that it's actually working properly, will generally be more stable than a wireless connection
vestal ibex
100% yes, I always do wired if possible
Unless wireless would be significantly faster than wired
arctic verge
honestly it's rather rare for me to see issues with ethernet like this lmao
usually the port is completely dead, or working perfectly fine
zinc oak
It’s a wired connection
The modem is connected to the wall and the router is connected to the modem and the Ethernet cable connects from the pc to the router
I can use the internet and stuff but after a while on running applications it randomly disconnects
vestal ibex
I'd go with the add in card personally. You usually have to pay to ship a bad board in for RMA, then you wait 3-6 weeks for them to maybe fix it (and maybe break something else).
Better to spend the $15 on a quicker solution imo
Since shipping would be almost that much anyway
zinc oak
Alr
So is the 15$ thing u posted the Wi-Fi card?
Or is that something completely different
zinc oak
So I need to get both that and the Wi-Fi card?
vestal ibex
No wifi needed
zinc oak
Ik Wi-Fi cards aren’t that pricy too
Oh
Ok
Because before the entire build started they said I had to either buy a Wi-Fi card because my motherboard didn’t come with one
Or connect a Ethernet cable
So I went with a cable
Because I have Ethernet internet
vestal ibex
You could get wifi too if you wanted but good ones start at around $22 and that's not including antennas
$30 with antennas
zinc oak
Wi-Fi cards have antennas?
vestal ibex
Everything wireless must have an antenna
vestal ibex
Even if you can't see it, your phone has several
zinc oak
Might just get the 15$ thing u sent
Since u said I don’t need a Wi-Fi card
So just buy that, and connect it to my router or my pc
vestal ibex
It slots into a PCIe slot, similar to the GPU, and then you'll plug the router into that with ethernet
zinc oak
Wait what
So
It connects to the pc?
One end to the pc
The other end to where
The router?
vestal ibex
Basically yes
vestal ibex
16 year old video, still accurate info to this day https://youtu.be/i60-u3JnLJo
Once it's in you just plug the ethernet cable into the back like you would on the motherboard
elder cliff
everytime i boot my pc i get green lines and the screen is just grey, i can see the boot screen but the windows screen is just grey
how do i fix this?
arctic verge
Change cables
elder cliff
i did
7 times ☠️
its the same thing
i get to the gigabyte screen
then i hear the windows boot sound
but it grey
before this i would always have a weird caution sign on my gpu in device manager
vestal ibex
If the bios splash is off color, that's not a driver issue, that's hardware (or firmware). If it's just windows, probably a driver.
somber berry
does anyone know how to fix the bt audio output?, whenever i reconnect my earbuds to my pc the audio from some apps/games/etc cant be heard and i have to restart them and its pretty annoying when i wanna charge my earbuds and have them reconnect later on
elder cliff
Might be driver issues?
it is
the only 2 screens i get are the gigabyte and the windows error
and they both have green lines and blue lines
vestal ibex
and they both have green lines and blue lines
You get lines over the gigabyte screen? That would be a hardware error. Possible causes include, but are not limited to, bad cables, bad ports (on GPU and/or monitor), or a failing GPU.
elder cliff
i’ve used different screens and cables
and ive used several gpu ports
i also cant update my graphics and my bios is outdated too
somber berry
so i got a bigger problem, i started my pc like normal and i noticed the bluetooth was off, i went to windows settings and the button to turn it on isnt there anymore, i went to device manager and bluetooth isnt there either, i installed my motherboard drivers but it didnt do anything and i think windows dosent detect my bluetooth motherboard hardware but idk what to do to reset it/enable it back again
arctic verge
Bluetooth drivers are usually included with the network card drivers
Unless the Bluetooth chip is separate from the network chip
somber berry
Unless the Bluetooth chip is separate from the network chip
they're separate i think cuz each one has its own driver, lan,wifi and bt
and the bt option dissapeared from here too
arctic verge
they're separate i think cuz each one has its own driver, lan,wifi and bt
Nah, I meant like the same physical device
Lan and WLAN are different chips, but often, especially on built into the mobo ones are WLAN and Bluetooth on the same package
Just try reinstalling your WLAN drivers
somber berry
i just fixed it
it was stupid as hell
there was some USB adapter that had an error and i restarted it to see what was it and when i enabled it it worked and it was the bluetooth bruh
one of these bruh
thanks for the help tho
somber berry
at least it wasnt hardware related, i got scared that the bt chipset was damaged somehow
arctic verge
Windows update sometimes breaks bt drivers for some reason
somber berry
the thing is i didnt even update anything
i just started my computer and bt was not working
arctic verge
Or maybe it was just an edge case scenario idk, but once my bt drivers broke after a windows update
💀
somber berry
i tried updating after the issue bc i had a pending update and thought that would fix it
but it didnt
vestal ibex
i just started my computer and bt was not working
Typical Bluetooth behavior tbh
arctic verge
We love Bluetooth on windows
somber berry
do u guys have any tips on how to stop it? it keeps happening
it even disabled my headset and my mouse for some reason
and it didnt fix with the usb restarting this time
somber berry
this is the error usb and appearntly its related to my antivirus software but idk what i can do to fix it
arctic verge
Have you tried reinstalling your wifi chipset drivers yet
somber berry
not really
i dont know if they'll affect cuz each one has its own driver
but ill give it a try
vestal ibex
Are you getting the drivers from the motherboard site or the Intel/Realtek/etc site
somber berry
mb site
vestal ibex
Which motherboard?
somber berry
Which motherboard?
tuf gaming b550 plus wifi II
somber berry
maybe if i reinstall my antivirus do you think it might fix itself? @vestal ibex
somber berry
bruh i cleared my cmos and power drained my pc just in case and i come to this
brittle heart
idk whas happening but NONE of my games will open
ive restarted my pc
turned it off for 30 mins
Idk what else to try
steam games will launch but stuff like minecraft, roblox and fortnite wont
brittle heart
Valorant will tho
same with genshin
just those 3 games wont launch
Valorant will no longer launchhhhhhhh
brittle heart
anyone know a fix??????
brittle heart
🥹
vestal ibex
anyone know a fix??????
Maybe start with DDU and then start reinstalling things like VC redist packages
?ddu
velvet mauveBOT
DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU
brittle heart
Maybe start with DDU and then start reinstalling things like VC redist packages
ddu
nasty
ok
will try
vestal ibex
DDU is a good catch-all for weird problems with few other possible explanations
brittle heart
DDU is a good catch-all for weird problems with few other possible explanations
DDU done
no changes
vestal ibex
Uninstall all your visual studio packages and install the latest ones from here https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170
brittle heart
Uninstall all your visual studio packages and install the latest ones from here ...
how do i uninstall them?
found them
do i uninstall every one of them?
vestal ibex
Yes
Every time a game installs it'll check for and install one of those packages. That's how you get so many duplicates.
Although it looks like you miraculously only have one duplicate
brittle heart
alr
brittle heart
Yes
Deleted and reinstalled
should i restart my pc
or try a game
or is there anything else i need to do
oh
wait
do i need all of thease?
vestal ibex
do i need all of thease?
The x86 and x64 packages, not the ARM
brittle heart
The x86 and x64 packages, not the ARM
doneee
didnt do anything
from what i cna see
lemme restart rq
IT WORKS
YES
ty
vestal ibex
Woo! I like when it's easy
vestal ibex
No problem
languid plank
you could do the "Install all dependencies" thing
vestal ibex
you could do the "Install all dependencies" thing
Not if they're installed but broken
And game installers always have outdated versions on top of that
languid plank
Aahh
wary mica
So a bit ago a friend and known person here helped me get windows 11 on my “unsupported” MSi laptop. Everything works fine, except no matter what I try I can not restart the laptop with the restart button. It says restarting, then then when booting it’s just stuck at the MSi splash screen and I have to press the physical power button off and off again to boot. Only way I can restart is to shut down and turn on again (which is the worst way). Is there any fix to this?
balmy grove
I honestly have no answers to this, but it could be that the install itself is corrupted somehow
wary mica
I honestly have no answers to this, but it could be that the install itself is c...
Its honestly so incredibly annoying
If its corrupted thats really, oddly specific of a corruption
Like it doesnt affect regular startup and shutdown only the restart lol
also random but why do i have 3 different speakers in my audio settings and two different microphones...i know with the mics one of them is probably my headset and the other is laptop but idk which is which
balmy grove
That's also weird
eager tartan
anyone heard of atlas OS ?
do you know of tools that do similar functions without the reinstall part
wary mica
That's also weird
Know anything? Or do I just gotta deal lol
Also your banner is heckin adorable
balmy grove
Outside of coping with it or trying for a reinstall?
Nah, not that I know of
It could also simply be some drivers missing somehow
vestal ibex
The multiple audio devices are for the multiple audio outputs. There's your internal speaker, headphone jack, and the hdmi/dp port.
balmy grove
That's right, problem is without audio driver the laptop came with it would list everything as speakers 
Not an issue, just confusing
vestal ibex
Considering it's not officially supported some driver hiccups are expected
balmy grove
ya
I have my wifi dropping sometimes on win 11
Some boots just fails to recognize the wifi card
Always fixed with a restart
vestal ibex
The one from april?
balmy grove
Yep
vestal ibex
Dang, worth a try lol
balmy grove
Not bothered anyway lol
This laptop is being given to my bro
This evening I'm picking up a new one
If it does that again I can tell him to restart
He gets to use a laptop than can properly play games he wants to, not all of them but a good number of them. And I get to hop to 4050 laptop 
eager tartan
yes this was amazing
cinder mauve
i may be a little stupid, because,
i accidentally installed the wrong win7 iso because it was an upgrade disk meant to be opened in vista for updating to 7,
not for a usb
cinder mauve
https://youtu.be/DUUTHkQrYy0
an amazing way to activate windows
also christ he's still going through that situation
icy stream
is this a problem with windows ?
next badger
corsar i-cue software seems to bricked itself. i can't uninstall or repair using the installer.
what can i do to get it working again?
vestal ibex
corsar i-cue software seems to bricked itself. i can't uninstall or repair using...
Revo uninstaller. If an uninstall fails or doesn't remove everything, that app removes whatever is left behind.
next badger
it can't find it.
forgot to mention, the progam is still "installed", but it doesn't show up or is recgonized by windows
this is the "rare occasion" corsair listed
https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/articles/6771456768013-How-to-Fix-issues-with-installing-or-uninstalling-iCUE#:~:text=To find the product code,product code on your own.
don't know what program to find the product code for the iCUE software though
vestal ibex
There's a "search and destroy" mode in Revo. Point it at any running program.
next badger
holy shot, that worked, ty so much!
vestal ibex
That program has saved me several times from having to reinstall windows. Glad it helped you too.
somber berry
quick question does anyone know how i can add back the bluetooth icon? i accidentally removed it from the hidden process
vestal ibex
Restart?
I usually just get to it from the quick settings anyway, where the network icon is
last gorge
I don't have bluetooth so I'm not sure if it appears in a different place but check taskbar settings -> taskbar items. or the other system tray icons
vestal ibex
Ah you're right it's exactly there
somber berry
i cant find it lol
vestal ibex
How much ram do you have
Also you can kill the hiberfil by running an admin terminal and doing powercfg -h off and then delete the file
Windows hibernation causes more problems than it's worth imo
agile merlin
ive been using hibernation a lot actually, its better than sleep which barely works since i switched to an amd cpu
agile merlin
How much ram do you have
32gb
vestal ibex
Did you reinstall windows when you switched to amd
agile merlin
damn, ive got a lot of stuff though
vestal ibex
You can do a PC reset and tell it to keep all files
vestal ibex
That would be the cause of sleep issues
It moves the old windows installation folder and some system app data folders into a windows.old folder, then installs fresh
It's like a new pc at that point but with all your data intact. So you might need to reinstall your programs but the data will still be there, no need to re-download steam games for example.
agile merlin
oh gotcha, i gotta try that then
oh wait but is there any way to limit the size of the pagefile btw?
vestal ibex
Yep I was putting a screenshot together for you
agile merlin
oh thanks!
vestal ibex
Right click the windows button, hit system. Advanced system settings.
Here's what I'd do, you can adjust as needed
agile merlin
is it safe to modify?
vestal ibex
Make sure to hit "set" before you hit OK!
Yes totally safe. It'll tell you to reboot.
You have more than enough memory so it doesn't need as much virtual space.
agile merlin
gotcha
any idea why it got so large?
isnt it supposed to change with how much is needed? im not doign anuthing intensive rn
vestal ibex
The issue with the page file is Windows used to recommend having that set to your memory size x 1.5
That recommendation hasn't been needed since about the XP days though
Sometimes it'll still revert to that size for whatever buggy reason
vestal ibex
More than enough. That'll tell it to allocate 2GB by default, and expand up to almost 8GB if needed which is unlikely.
agile merlin
perfect
vestal ibex
It needs at least 800MB minimum just in case of a system error, so it can safely do a memory dump and error report.
agile merlin
my computer is using 16gb ram at idle lmao
i have 32gb rn
when i was on 16gb my computer never used half on idle, is there any way to fix it?
resource monitor shows that nothing in particular is using that much, just the combination of everything
vestal ibex
Is that 16GB in use or 16GB committed
Task manager is really bad at expressing how much is actually in use vs how much programs reserve "just in case I need it"
hwinfo is better at that
languid plank
True
agile merlin
hwinfo is better at that
where do i see that in hwinfo?
not seeing a section for memory
vestal ibex
where do i see that in hwinfo?
When you open it in sensors mode it's the first section. Virtual and physical commit and available.
agile merlin
When you open it in sensors mode it's the first section. Virtual and physical co...
gotcha, even hwinfo shows i have 16gb left
vestal ibex
gotcha, even hwinfo shows i have 16gb left
Physical? Do you have 2 or 4 sticks of memory?
viral eagle
Nothing wrong with your system using ram at idle as long as it's properly utilizing it when applications need it
cosmic siren
I need some help
vestal ibex
I need some help
With?
trail vale
Here's a question for yall - when I try to click share on a document in word, it tries sending the email through Office 2016. Is there any way you know of to change that default app to my mail app? I use Microsoft's Mail and Calander app from the Microsoft Store.
vestal ibex
That'll depend on the way it's trying to share. If it's a mailto link that's easy.
trail vale
how would I check that?
vestal ibex
I imagine you'd be able to find how it's sharing in settings for the app doing the sharing
trail vale
yeah nope, still doing it
I don't evne have Outlook 2016 installed
when I close out of the wizard it says MAPI failure if that means anything
vestal ibex
Honestly I'd just tell it to save as pdf and skip this step entirely
trail vale
im just trying to use the share function without having to dig thru my files every time 
cosmic siren
How do I nuke a drive… I have everything backed up and the LAN drivers on a flash drive
So how do I accompli what you had said
cosmic siren
So how do I accompli what you had said
@wooden flint
cosmic siren
Laptop??
wooden flint
as long as it’s not the infected computer it will work
plug a usb stick into the laptop
cosmic siren
It’s not infected no
cosmic siren
Hold up booting laptop
wooden flint
okay
cosmic siren
Mb it’s so slow
wooden flint
guessing it’s an old computer ey?
cosmic siren
Nah but it’s just ran a lot of games that are way out of its league
wooden flint
okay, just ping me when you’ve installed Rufus
cosmic siren
okay, just ping me when you’ve installed Rufus
Rufus-4.1. Exe?
wooden flint
Rufus-4.1. Exe?
yeah install that
cosmic siren
This is how I got the virus in first place 😂😂 my brother clicked a fake download link and installed that mf
wooden flint
well, might be a good idea to teach your bro computer skills
cosmic siren
I don’t let him on it
And I wasn’t home etc
Ok I have the Rufus
Put it on the USB stick?
cosmic siren
Didn’t you say that will like make the ssd useless
Or is that what the Rufus is for
wooden flint
No, Rufus is something you use to put the file on the usb stick
the DBan file will help you completely wipe your hard drive
which is what you want
cosmic siren
Just to know is it dban-2.3.0_i586.iso
cosmic siren
Maybe it was someone else that didn’t know but if I completely erase everything even windows how do I get it back
Sorry if that is a dumb question
wooden flint
well you said you backed up all your important files
you should be fine as long as you follow my steps
cosmic siren
Ok do I let the Rufus change my device
wooden flint
You’re in Rufus right?
First you want to click on the button that says browse next to .iso file, and click on the dban file you just downloaded
cosmic siren
No but like do I allow the Rufus to make changes to my device
wooden flint
Oh, yeah give it admin privileges
thought you already did that
Okay so now click on the button that says “browse” and find the dban file
cosmic siren
Okay so now click on the button that says “browse” and find the dban file
Select
cosmic siren
Ok done
wooden flint
show me a picture of Rufus
cosmic siren
wooden flint
hopefully you selected the dban file but I just want to see if it shows up with extra settings
okay there we go, click start
cosmic siren
Ok done
wooden flint
shouldn’t take too long
cosmic siren
It says it’s ready
wooden flint
okay now take your usb stick out and plug it into the infected computer
cosmic siren
Well he is now healthy but got some corrupted
Files but I’m assuming that’s the same thing
wooden flint
just want to make sure: the computer you installed Rufus on is not the same one as the computer your bro messed up right?
just want to clear up a misconception that I had
cosmic siren
Yes installed on the laptop and the virus was on the desktop
That makes a big difference?
wooden flint
okay good
so plug that usb stick in your desktop that’s infected
start up your desktop and just hit all of the F keys on your keyboard
You know, like F12, F4
cosmic siren
It’s already on so ok
wooden flint
well if it’s already on turn it off and turn it back on
cosmic siren
Wait wat does that so
wooden flint
Once you turn on your pc press all of the F keys
we need to get into BIOS boot menu
cosmic siren
well if it’s already on turn it off and turn it back on
Well my psu has issues and it doesn’t always start right away and I could have to turn off turn on for a few times
I took out the stick and I put it in once in bios?
wooden flint
No, leave it in and then go into bios menu
if you put it in after you go into bios menu it won’t show up
cosmic siren
tell me once you’ve gotten into boot menu (*not* your windows Lock Screen)
I press delete to get to bios right
And also
You need to bear with me bc my pc takes some trial and error to boot occasionally
wooden flint
I press delete to get to bios right
Well if you know the button to get into bios use that button
cosmic siren
Ok
wooden flint
It varies with every computer manufacturer
cosmic siren
Feck it went to Lock Screen and didn’t even wait
wooden flint
if it doesn’t work you may need to tell me what manufacturer made your motherboard/pc
wooden flint
Okay rog? Let me find out which button it is real quick
wooden flint
yeah one of those keys should get you into boot menu
cosmic siren
Ok I’m there
wooden flint
okay you mind sending a picture? describing it is hard
cosmic siren
wooden flint
Okay, so the button you pressed to get into BIOS isn’t the right one to get into boot menu
now try the other button when booting up
cosmic siren
That’s not the right one?
wooden flint
yeah you said there’s two buttons right? we needed to get into boot menu
cosmic siren
Oh is it that blue screen thing
wooden flint
the one you pressed was for bios
cosmic siren
With the repairs
wooden flint
no not that thing
cosmic siren
Ok I’m gonna press the other one
wooden flint
that should work
cosmic siren
I know we aren’t done yet but holy shi thanks for all the help man
wooden flint
I’ve got plenty of time to help you
in fact you’re doing me a favor because I have nothing to do
wooden flint
try f2 this time
wooden flint
okay y’know what? Try going to the boot section
maybe that’s what we need
never used an ROG Mobo, excuse my lack of intelligence here
cosmic siren
I think it is
cosmic siren
I did it flickered and brought it back to the same screen
cosmic siren
I did but is something supposed to happen
wooden flint
okay i think we both made one crucial mistake
you need to take the usb stick out and put it back in your laptop, then start Rufus again
select the dban file like you did last time but this time, change one of the settings
this setting should be set to “MBR”, change that to “UEFI”
cosmic siren
Woah
wooden flint
Did it work?
wooden flint
Okay it may be because one of the settings is set to FAT32
cosmic siren
NTFS?
wooden flint
Change it to NTFS
cosmic siren
Still only MBR
wooden flint
see if it works
cosmic siren
without UEFI?
wooden flint
hmm
cosmic siren
Well I clicked start and it said smth abt how it already had an iso or some
cosmic siren
wooden flint
so you can’t select GPT? Odd. Maybe see what’s under “target system” and “file system”
cosmic siren
GPT?
That’s the only option for target system and the only other option for the file system is the Fats32
wooden flint
okay see if you can select the gpt partition scheme in either file system
wooden flint
hmm
alright let’s break out the big guns
go to windows search bar and type “command prompt”, but don’t hit enter
Instead go to the right and click “run as administrator”
cosmic siren
This my moms laptop so before I do this what does it do
On the infected pc or the laptop
wooden flint
On laptop. This is a last ditch effort to convert to gpt
You got the command prompt up yet?
wooden flint
Yes
wooden flint
Type in “diskpart”
cosmic siren
Any spaces or no
wooden flint
No spaces
cosmic siren
wooden flint
you misspelled disk in list disk
did that my first time too
type it in again and take another pic
cosmic siren
cosmic siren
Ok
wooden flint
you got it?
cosmic siren
Yes
wooden flint
now type in
“clean”
cosmic siren
That’s the flash not the drive of the laptop?
Just asking before I erase my moms shi
cosmic siren
I like to be sure before I make a mistake that would put my butt on a wall
wooden flint
good thing you’re asking questions and making sure
cosmic siren
Ok it’s clean
wooden flint
once it’s done, type this:
“convert gpt”
cosmic siren
Ok done
wooden flint
You can close the command prompt now, and start Rufus back up
cosmic siren
Ok
wooden flint
Do everything like you did before and take a picture
wooden flint
Try setting it to gpt
cosmic siren
No option to
wooden flint
Looks like this is the time to throw Rufus in the trash can and try something else
cosmic siren
Y it gotta be like that
wooden flint
Rufus sometimes messes up once in a while
It’s a good program but once in a blue moon it doesn’t work
This is what I personally use, and they have a windows version. Try this
cosmic siren
The windows zip
wooden flint
Scroll down and click on the windows file
extract the windows file and run the exe file
cosmic siren
cosmic siren
extract the windows file and run the exe file
What next
wooden flint
Click install
cosmic siren
Done
wooden flint
Oh wait shoot hold on
Go back to ventoy
click options, change the partition style
it’s set to MBR by default and it needs to be set to GPT
cosmic siren
Fresh install ventoy?
wooden flint
Yes
cosmic siren
Ok
wooden flint
Done?
cosmic siren
Ye
wooden flint
Copy the dban file to your usb drive
cosmic siren
Done
wooden flint
should be a ventoy partition now
cosmic siren
What does that mean
wooden flint
it means it’ll work now
tell me when the dban file is done copying to your usb stick
cosmic siren
Ok so pull out stick and put in off pc
cosmic siren
tell me when the dban file is done copying to your usb stick
That took so long
Thank you
wooden flint
Done? Ok
Now stick it in your desktop. Start it up and go to the bios boot screen like last time
cosmic siren
Then?
wooden flint
Go to boot override and click on your usb stick
cosmic siren
2 worked
wooden flint
Pic?
cosmic siren
This were I need to be
cosmic siren
My mouse cursor isn’t showing up
wooden flint
Space?
cosmic siren
Nope
wooden flint
If not then hit F1, maybe that’ll tell us what key it is
wooden flint
Try it again
maybe it will work again?
I need to work on something, it’ll take about 20 min
cosmic siren
I need to work on something, it’ll take about 20 min
It worked this time
cosmic siren
WTF
dawn socket
This were I need to be
Why are you using dban?
Should have just downloaded a windows iso instead. When you go to install windows, you can format the drive partitions.
This will effectively delete everything off the drive that was causing you issues.
dawn socket
which is what you want
Maybe if he were to be selling the storage drive to some unknown person that he didn't want to recover any data that could potentially be left on there. This isn't the case though. You're having a confused person go through more effort than is needed to get the PC up and running.
cosmic siren
Can u help me then. Please
dawn socket
Can u help me then. Please
Windows 10 or 11?
dawn socket
You’re saying the last 2 hours was for nothing
Click this link and download the windows 10 iso
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO
cosmic siren
Hold up
dawn socket
You’re saying the last 2 hours was for nothing
I'm sorry to say.. yes.
cosmic siren
Bro scrw that bread guy
dawn socket
You'll still be using the ventoy so it's not all wasted.
But instead of dban you'll just boot the windows install iso
cosmic siren
Well problem is my pc is temperamental and could take 5 minutes to boot
It’s weird like that
Bc I have a slightly broken PSU
dawn socket
It's ok.
Just get it downloaded and put on the USB drive in the same way bread showed you to do dban.
dawn socket
Can I download it on the infected/corrupted file pc
Yes.
cosmic siren
Holy shi
dawn socket
?
cosmic siren
Was just abt to download
That’s why I’m doing this
Can I do it on a separate pc
@dawn socket is that error code resolved with a fresh install?
cosmic siren
it doesnt show that
dawn socket
The bottom plus option in this picture
cosmic siren
ohhh