overclocking

[lavish tundra]

if it no work as admin run without admin

and vise versa

[digital dirge]

Yeah. Let it run while I was at home depot. No errors. Thank you guys

[zenith palm]

Nice , what mem oc have you gone too?

[digital dirge]

Gonna try ocing later and see how it goes. Just wanted to make sure there were no errors already before I started

Just at xmp 1 oc.

So 3200

[zenith palm]

Ahh

I think it's actually illegal for rev e not to be stable at xmp xD

[digital dirge]

Gonna try for 3800. Hopefully.

I'd like to get to 4k if possible but idk yet.

[zenith palm]

4k could be possible in gear 1 maybe not tho

[digital dirge]

Heh you remember what ram I have huh?

Anyways, just got back from home depot. So I'm gonna go build my computer stand

[zenith palm]

Ballistix 3200 right?

[clever epoch]

What do you guys use to clone your OS drive?

[potent fiber]

Macrium reflect is a common program to use

[sterile flame]

mac and cheese reflect

[eager hazel]

im using a 3080 lhr on nicehash. are these OC settings good or are they too high?

[faint tangle]

tf oc software is that

[sudden torrent]

Usually you want negative on the core, and you can probably go higher on memory unless you got unlucky with binning

300W is a bit high too but your ideal power draw will vary

[eager hazel]

alr

[eager hazel]

excavator

its the only one that works with nicehash

and how much higher should the mem go

or could it go

[sudden torrent]

Depends on stock frequency and luck, some will do 1200, others 1500

[faint tangle]

i can do 1500 on my 3060 ti

you should be able to do 1250+

tho as fal said it depends on your bin

i got lucky with mine, so it can oc pretty well

[eager hazel]

would it be pushing it to go 1750?

[faint tangle]

very much so

[eager hazel]

lol

would 1500 be pushing it?

[faint tangle]

id be surprised if 1600 was stable

[eager hazel]

lol

[sudden torrent]

30 series doesn't crash if it's too high, you'll get bad/lost shares or reduced hash rate

[eager hazel]

ah alr

[faint tangle]

atleast for desktop lol

my 3050 ti crashes at 650 lmao

i dont actually mine on it

was just curious what itd do

[sudden torrent]

Laptops are a whole other animal

[faint tangle]

mm

[eager hazel]

lol

so

uh

1400

not stable

crashed

my pc

[sudden torrent]

Well that's too high then lol

[eager hazel]

no way

i thought i could fix it by doubling it

lol

also what would happen if i left my max power draw at 370

not doing it but im curious

would it like

just kill the gpu

[sudden torrent]

Nah it'll just get hotter and use more power. If it gets too hot it might crash.

The idea is to get the best hashes per Watt you can. LHR cards can usually get 300 KH/W or better.

[eager hazel]

ah

[sudden torrent]

That way it maximizes your profit. You have to account for power costs.

[eager hazel]

what about without power costs

[sudden torrent]

It's still better to keep it cooler

[eager hazel]

ye

whats a good range to keep it at

in temp

[sudden torrent]

Ideally you'll want video memory at or below 100C, core temp under 60C

[eager hazel]

thats not too bad

[sudden torrent]

If you've got a good cooler and thermal pads then yeah, it's not too bad

[eager hazel]

can unlocking the max core voltage hurt the gpu

[eager hazel]

ye i gots

[sudden torrent]

Doesn't work on the 30 series

[eager hazel]

ah

[sudden torrent]

Nvidia locked voltage control years ago

[eager hazel]

why?

[faint tangle]

My gigabyte gpu has surprisingly good cooling

[eager hazel]

same

[sudden torrent]

"It's for your own protection" is their main reason

[faint tangle]

Core stays at or below 50 with 65% on fans 55% pl -502 core +1250 mem

[eager hazel]

lmao

[eager hazel]

my hashrate keeps dropping a ton

welp

it goes from

72

to 0

then goes up

[sudden torrent]

That's LHR kicking in

[eager hazel]

oof

[sudden torrent]

It'll take some time to find your ideal LHR settings, it's an automatic process and you can set it manually once it's dialed in

[eager hazel]

ah

are these worth using?

lol

[sudden torrent]

You'll use that to set it once it finds your ideal settings

Chances are it'll settle to around a ratio of 70-74

[eager hazel]

ah alr

im just curious

could like

wayyyyy overclocking

straight up kill the gpu

[sudden torrent]

Voltage and hard modding is the only way really

[eager hazel]

ah

and overtime this will damage it tho right

like

running it 24/7

[sudden torrent]

Not any more than gaming for 6 hours a day would. Since it's using less power, the capacitors and such aren't as stressed.

[eager hazel]

ah

thats good to know

[sudden torrent]

The fans might die but those are easily replaced

[eager hazel]

ye

[sudden torrent]

Just keep it clean and it shouldn't be an issue for a couple years at least

[eager hazel]

i just ordered a pci fan unit

thats good

ty

[clever epoch]

except for my 3080 that never sees reduced hash rate and just crashes my entire computer instead

[eager hazel]

lol

cry about it

jkjk

[sudden torrent]

There's exceptions to every rule and if you follow best practices for overclocking that doesn't happen 😛

[eager hazel]

finally found the perfect settings

[digital dirge]

Alright. TM5 test for 3800mhz 16 19 19 36

Gear 2

Wouldn't post gear 1

Oh gear 2 isn't good is it?

[clever epoch]

Nah, the ECC on my 3080 is straight up broken. It's the only card I know of (including another 2 I tested myself) that does this. ECC doesn't work, error(s) eventually happen, and the driver irrecoverably crashes, requiring a hard reset.

It isn't even this bad on other cards without ECC (another 2x 3070s I tested at some point), those eventually crash games/programs, maybe a driver crash, but it recovers. This 3080 is cursed

[sudden torrent]

It's not ideal

[digital dirge]

Ok I'm gonna try gear 1 again

ok Posted with 3800 16 19 19 36 gear 1

time to run test

Oof. 10 seconds blue screen

[eager hazel]

lets goooooooooo

[left blade]

chilled greese#6969 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[eager hazel]

bruh

[digital dirge]

@sudden torrent do you by chance know why even though in bios I set 16 19 16 36.. when I open HWiNFO it shows it as 16 19 19 36

?

[sudden torrent]

Either hwinfo isn't reading it right or it's being overridden by the board or cpu

Or you're looking at the wrong timings

[digital dirge]

Tcas
Trcd
Trp
Tras
Right?

[sudden torrent]

There's RCDWR and RCDRD

The timings get abbreviated since normally they're the same
So 16-19-16-36 is actually 16-19-19-16-36

[digital dirge]

Oh ok so its just not showing the 16 then?

Or I'm not getting it.

[sudden torrent]

Screenshot that section of hwinfo and we'll see

[proven canopy]

Use zentimings or astc

[digital dirge]

Sorry for late reply. Company showed up.

[sudden torrent]

See what astc says

[digital dirge]

Can I download that while running tm5?

I'm an hour in and don't wanna mess anything up.

[eager hazel]

LETS GOOOOOO

83mh/s

[digital dirge]

I don't even know what asct is.

[sudden torrent]

https://download.asrock.com/Utility/Formula/TimingConfigurator(v4.0.4).zip

Yeah you can run it while doing TM5

[eager hazel]

so close

[proven canopy]

What board? You want 4.0.13 for z690

[sudden torrent]

Looks like the mag tomahawk z690

[proven canopy]

@eager hazel

If you're on msi, you can use dragon power/dragon ball

[eager hazel]

wat dat

[proven canopy]

Shows your ram timings in windows

[sterile flame]

my 1070 hardly makes anything anymore

[sudden torrent]

Yeah after electricity you'd be at about 60 cents a day right?

[sterile flame]

I dont pay for electricity rn since I've been at college but yea pretty much

[sudden torrent]

Ah nice, so $1 a day lol

[sterile flame]

[zenith palm]

Hey that's still 365$ extra a year

[digital dirge]

@sudden torrent sorry man, I had been up 24 hours when you sent that. I couldn't even download it when you linked the program, I had to go lay down and pass the heck out lol

[eager hazel]

shhh

[eager hazel]

ah

[digital dirge]

When you guys use afterburner to oc your gpu.. do you guys set the fans back to auto once you find a good oc?

[zenith palm]

Yes and kind of, i always use a custom fan curve

[digital dirge]

is that so you don't hear it ramping up and down?

[dull ginkgo]

If you're finding an oc for daily, just find a fan speed you're happy with and keep working with it

I do like 54% because it's the highest speed that's inaudible to me

[zenith palm]

Yes and usually stock ones are blehh

[digital dirge]

this evga 1650 super fans..

like

I can hear them at 100% with my panel off

but with it on I can't hear them

[dull ginkgo]

If you can't hear the sound at all, just leave it to auto

[digital dirge]

but I don't want to run it at 100% all the time

ok yeah that's what I was thinkikng'

[eager hazel]

nope. i always have my fans at 100. doesn’t matter either way i always blast my music

[faint tangle]

that isnt good for the fans

whenever my fans go over 75% now they rattle, and i have to replace one of them

i wouldn't even run them at 85% for an extended period of time

[eager hazel]

oh

is 75 ok to run them at?

[faint tangle]

as long as your temps arent too high, id just leave them at auto

[eager hazel]

ah

kk ty

[potent fiber]

Obviously different gpu for me, but I just keep it under around 75 & 40% fan is the highest I've needed.

[eager hazel]

ah

who made it

like

gigabyte

or someone else

[sudden torrent]

If it's the strix in his name then it's Asus

[eager hazel]

nicknames dont show up for me lol

[sterile flame]

this new 2021 macbook pro strix is really lit

[faint tangle]

i prefer the 2023 13600k version

[sterile flame]

honestly i understand that viewpoint but you're wrong

[faint tangle]

fair

[potent fiber]

You have a nick here, haha. Anyways yea, Asus Strix 1080. The one w/ vram at "11gbps" instead of 10. 🤘

[sterile flame]

ill send you my sources

trust me:tm:

crap it didnt work

[faint tangle]

oh damn

yeah that makes sense

i think i have to agree with you there

[sterile flame]

[eager hazel]

i saw something on the nvidia forum saying that you can trick a gpu into mining without lhr if you run a game at the same time

im not genius but that sounds a little off

can anyone confirm/deny

[sudden torrent]

The end result would be the same, any game using enough power to do that would reduce your hashrate anyway

[zenith palm]

Just run them on a fan curve, no need to put unnecessary wear and tear on them

[eager hazel]

alr

[eager hazel]

ight cool

is there any way to get around lhr?

other than using lhr ratio and intensity

[dull ginkgo]

No

[dull ginkgo]

The ones that claim to bypass lhr so far have been scams

[eager hazel]

oof

[dull ginkgo]

You could mine two coins, that gets you more profitability, but not getting around lhr

[eager hazel]

ah cool

ty

[dull ginkgo]

Like
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/new-software-lets-you-mine-two-different-cryptocurrencies-at-once-on-lhr-nvidia-cards

[short otter]

For 5.1 should I increase voltage or nah @sudden torrent

[sudden torrent]

See if it'll do it without changing voltage; if it doesn't, change voltage.

You focus on one at a time, increase clocks until unstable, increase voltage to stabilize, increase clocks, increase voltage to stabilize...

[short otter]

Uhhh my system froze no blue screen when I tried p95 LOL

Usually it just blue screens this is interesting

[sudden torrent]

Hard crash, more voltage

Maybe start with Load Line Calibration level 3 or 4

[short otter]

I was already in mode 3, trying 1.3

And the reason I asked earlier was your bet on if it'd crash on 1.28 lol

Holy crap 30 watts on idle now lol

Hard crash at 1.3? Odd...

[sudden torrent]

Bump SA?

[short otter]

That's a lot of voltage for 5.1 considering I can do 5 at 1.255

LOL

Falcie I'll fry SA

It's kinda really high for my dram already

[sudden torrent]

Ah yeah having memory overclocked will limit your cpu a little, but not much

[short otter]

🥺 👉 👈

Not much but yeah

[sudden torrent]

mem oc still more than worth it

[short otter]

I am NOT raising it

I have 4000 mhz cl16 on 4 sticks

I'm not sacrificing that either LOL

[sudden torrent]

Point of diminishing returns has been found

[short otter]

Lol the point of diminishing returns is starting the overclocking in general tbh

Oh crap

I still have power limits on

At 180 to prevent throttling on my old cooler

Lemme go ahead and make that limit 4000 watts

There we go that might've been doing it

[short otter]

Yeah so my SA is already at 1.25, do I risk raising that anymore?

[sudden torrent]

Nah see if the power limit does anything first

1.25 is already high like you said

[short otter]

It was .01 above what was stable (1.24)

I did that so I wouldn't run into problems

I tend to do that

[sudden torrent]

Smart. It'll degrade a little over time so nice to have that cushion.

[short otter]

Okay so

The crash is really weird

It runs for like 10 seconds

Then core temp freezes

Then mouse freezes 10 seconds after and nothing works

Trying 1.305

If it doesn't work by 1.31 I'm yeeting pcore OC and going to ecore

Windows then mouse froze again

5.1 isn't worth it over 1.31 imo

[sudden torrent]

Not worth that 100 MHz at all

[short otter]

but the frames

[sudden torrent]

You mean the 2 frames in a game where you're already getting 400? lol

[short otter]

Actually it would be 20 for a 5% increase smh

Wait bad may

Math*

It's 2%

8 frames!!!!

[sudden torrent]

Except it's not linear like that

[short otter]

Don't try to reason with me

I need that speed

[sudden torrent]

Gotta overclock that cache to make it linear

[short otter]

What should I do for ring ratio target?

I have it at 42 rn

[sudden torrent]

I'm not sure, haven't messed with 12th gen much personally

[short otter]

HOLY

It's working at 1.31!

90°C for prime95

90°C is kinda impressive tbh

[sudden torrent]

Considering you're probably at, what, 200W by now?

[short otter]

224 according to core temp

[sudden torrent]

Sheeee

[short otter]

Apparently stock voltage for 12600k is 1.22-1.25

[sudden torrent]

I can't even cool 170

[short otter]

LOL

This cooler is absurd

[sudden torrent]

And that's after a P12 transplant on my cooler

In the torrent case

[short otter]

No I hard crashed again QwQ

Intel: I only guaranteed 5

YOU GET ONLY 5

It went above 230 before it crashed

230 watts on an i5

That poor thing is probably screaming

[sudden torrent]

Maybe 5.05

Looks like my 5.2 was too optimistic after all

[short otter]

Wouldn't I have to mess with the block size-

Also yeah WTF

I had heard 12th gen are some really bad overclockers

I wonder what Intel's yields are

[sudden torrent]

That's because they're already pushed to the wall so they can put big number on chart above red

[short otter]

They can't be good with how hard they're pushing them

The yields on these must be really bad

Like 3090ti bad

[sudden torrent]

5800X3D bad?

[short otter]

Not that bad

You see the report that their yields were under 30% for that CPU?

Kinda terrifying

It's bad enough where AMD was like

you are NOT allowed to OC this

It's barely stable already

[sudden torrent]

Yeah the tolerances they needed to keep the same Z height were insane, sanded down to the bare metal no shielding

[short otter]

I wonder whats harder to bin/produce

12900ks or 5800x3d

[sudden torrent]

KS are pre-binned so you already know what to expect at least

X3D having normal overclocking with multiplier and PBO advanced locked... you're stuck with bclk

[short otter]

Yeahhh

Okay confirmed 1.28 5 was stable

Ecore time?

[sudden torrent]

I saw one person get 5.013 GHz on the 5800X3D

[proven canopy]

binning 5800x3d would be kinda silly

[short otter]

I meant bin for 12900ks and produce for 5800x3D

Intel been making a lot of 12900K maybe they're more successful with their endeavor

Ecores are at 38. I'mma bump voltage to 1.285 and then see when ecores fail

[proven canopy]

I think some guys have run really aggressive bclk to get over 5ghz on the x3d

[short otter]

Trying 40 on ecore and praying

[sudden torrent]

Hwbot validated frequency record is currently 4778.69

[proven canopy]

Yeah, but since there are so few subs, not many will bother to sub that category since it isn't anywhere close to competitive for globals

[sudden torrent]

But there's only 2 subs yeah

[proven canopy]

It's decent on ycruncher, x265, 7zip globals though

[short otter]

18.9K cinebench

40 on ecore didn't get murdered by p95 either!

[sudden torrent]

I mean they only shaved the CCD down like 30%, that's not a big deal right?

[short otter]

4.1 ecore chance? LOL

[sudden torrent]

Low chance, but possible

[short otter]

I want 19k on cinebench

There's no way

[proven canopy]

Here's data, only really gained on geeks, x265, ycruncher, 7zip https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J5t5Tm7Q1S2Ot4EOEB2V0coT6Efc9RnVgE5ulgSK2Ms/edit#gid=0

[short otter]

6 minutes into p95 no errors on 4.1ghz ecores

You mean to tell me that pcore can only get 100mhz but I can get +400 on the ecores?

[proven canopy]

Should be able to do 5.3 pcores 4.2 ecores 4.4 cache on water

Maybe 5.2 core if you have a bad chip

[short otter]

Pcores aren't stable on 5.1

I went up to 1.34V

[proven canopy]

Don't have to be stable to pass cinebench

[short otter]

LOL

[proven canopy]

And you'll run out of thermal headroom on a heatkiller iv before you hurt the chip

[short otter]

1.34V pulling almost 240 watts I was only at 90° on highest core

Thermals headroom still there

And that was on p95

[proven canopy]

Sounds like an aio, arctic AIOs don't work well on intel 12th gen btw

Package power isn't accurate

[short otter]

XTUs is somewhat accurate

Artic AIO seems to be working too

[proven canopy]

You'd really need to read the vrm sensors in hwinfo, or use a PMD

[short otter]

Much better than my dark rock 4

[lavish tundra]

Ive heard of cinebench passing but opening task manager crashed pc

[digital dirge]

Is it a bad cpu oc if the pc locks up for several seconds when closing a program? This happens maybe once a day/every other day.

[zenith palm]

Possibly that or ram imo

[potent fiber]

Yes I agree bad oc on cpu and/or ram.

[lavish tundra]

Could also be windows corruption

[proven canopy]

There's a much easier way to test this, just run some occt large avx2, if that's stable and you still have the issue, it's clearly something wrong elsewhere.

Run the sfc/dism stuff and see if that fixes it.

[sudden torrent]

Besides 1900 fclk, what should I work on next? I can't get 1900 stable on this bios version.

[humble jay]

can maybe do gear down mode off

[sudden torrent]

I can probably do 5-10 ns lower trfc too but that's the last thing.
I'll see if gdm off cooperates.

[short blade]

can't do 1833/1867?

[zenith palm]

Did you try 3733mhz ram?

[sudden torrent]

Yeah, I couldn't get that stable either. GDM off isn't training, it's been trying this whole time.

[zenith palm]

You soc voltage looks a little low tbh I'd try up that a bit unless there's a load of dropoff

[sudden torrent]

I thought so too but it's 100% stable like that so 🤷‍♂️

Might bring it up to try GDM off though, good point

[zenith palm]

Try proc 40 and clkdvr 60 and setups 63 to try help

[zenith palm]

Yep if you might be able to get 3733

[sudden torrent]

With this bios version I can't do above 3600

[zenith palm]

Even with higher soc?

Shame

[sudden torrent]

I'd roll it back but MSI only keeps the latest beta bios on the page, and the latest non beta doesn't support 5000

[zenith palm]

I'd try bit higher vddp and vddg if needed

[sudden torrent]

X470 problems

[zenith palm]

Rip

But change the setup values and stuff to try help with stability

[modern walrus]

gg

[digital dirge]

Thats odd. My i5 is 5.2 pcores 4.0 ecores 1.32v running 198-201w 100% load max temp 79c with LFII 360

[zenith palm]

Might be a different bench/test or they're reading package power instead of the cores

[proven canopy]

Round 2 $5 gpu competition
https://oc-esports.io/#!/round/CheapaChipsR2
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/ati-rv710.g69
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662740657819090974/969939992677842944/22001-HWBOT-CheapazChips2-A02-4K.jpg

[eager hazel]

lhr 3080 is the GOAT

[faint tangle]

that aint right

at all

[eager hazel]

yes

its right

and its working perfectly

[faint tangle]

my 3060 ti fhr makes 2.5 a day

at 61.5mh/s

theres currently a spike on eth

so estimated proitabilities are off

[eager hazel]

my 3080 makes 2.80 on a normal day

[faint tangle]

youll make closer to 3.5 a day

[eager hazel]

but i came home to 10.50

lmao

and its still there

[faint tangle]

just wait

also theres a crypto channel

why post it here

[eager hazel]

bc

im like

overclocking massively

+1600 mhz

[eager hazel]

oop

should i crank it more?

lmao

im scared

[faint tangle]

Depends purely on the bin of your gpu

It's unlikely to crash, but the hashrate will start to scale negatively when when hit your limit

[eager hazel]

lol

[modern walrus]

when does round two start for the other competitions?

[proven canopy]

which?

Challenger?

[modern walrus]

crap just saw you replied. ya challenger

[zenith palm]

Nice hash per day thing is very temperamental

Only way you'd be making that much is if that screenshot was a year ago

[short blade]

nicehash profitability calculator is not reliable

[eager hazel]

yeah but i’m curious as to what caused it to go so high for that long

[zenith palm]

Weird fluctuations in market value can cause that, their calc in client is pretty weird, their web calc is decent

[eager hazel]

ah

[potent fiber]

I finally tried out an actual undervolt guide. Usual peak at 2000ish MHz & 1.05v-ish was 200w-ish. 20% (peak) power savings for 5% lower clock is pretty beast. I also checked a 900mv setup & even that still beat stock boost too.

[zenith palm]

Yeah undervolting+ oc is great

[short blade]

got a "driver overran stack buffer" bsod, is that oc related? never seen it before and it's not in that list of bsod causes

haven't updated drivers recently

[sudden torrent]

Buffer errors are usually memory overclock yes

[short blade]

is it possible to be cpu cache?

[sudden torrent]

Possibly. Anything connected to a buffer.

[short blade]

i increased cache by 5mV and it hasn't happened again

i passed extreme1, anta x arshia, and 4 hours of linpack xtreme so idk

i was hoping it wasn't the ram oc

[zenith palm]

If you wanna test cache, p95 small fft it

[short blade]

I did 4 hours of linpack

[zenith palm]

But p95 make cache go brrr especially on ryzen

https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-joke-dog-its-fine-this-is-not-gif-16757454

[short blade]

p95 makes intel laptop do a bit of thermal throttling

not sure if it's useful for undervolt testing

[zenith palm]

Oh right you where on laptop nvm

[short blade]

well I'll try it anyways

time to shower while it's running and hope it doesn't burn down my house

currently thermal throttling from 4.6ghz to 3.6ghz

this is fine

wait I forgot to disable avx512 LOL

gonna run avx2

[proven canopy]

That's just L2 cache though, maybe set a custom size and watch main memory read bandwidth in hwinfo to test L3

[short blade]

well prime95 is finding hardware errors

guess linpack doesn't work very well for testing an undervolt on a laptop with thermal throttling

think i need to redo cpu lm? or this is fine

bouncing between 3.9-4.0ghz all core in small ffts avx2

[zenith palm]

Ahh alright i thought it used l3 as well... Good to know thanks

[zenith palm]

You're welcome :)

[proven canopy]

Just depends on the fft size, iirc smallis meant to fit entirely within L2

I think p95 tries to guess based on your chip - or maybe reads L2 size like cpuz does

[zenith palm]

Why not get it to span across l2 and l3?

[modern walrus]

4900mhz all-core on CB R23 with 10900K is not the stock setting, right?

single-core R23 runs about 5230mhz. I think I remember that 10900K boosts up to 5300mhz on single core but that all-core seems really high

(for stock)

[steel zephyr]

Not the result I was expecting... https://hwbot.org/submission/4989595

[modern walrus]

I think you broke it

[sudden torrent]

Your actual score is the GPU score not the overall

So 4285

[steel zephyr]

The other submissions are using the overall score.

[sudden torrent]

They're not supposed to, report them

That's a GPU benchmark so only the GPU score counts

All someone would have to do to top the charts is use a better CPU than the other guy if overall was allowed

[steel zephyr]

If it goes by GPU/Graphcis score only than more than half the submissions for many GPUs on the leaderboards for Timespy scores are wrong because they are all submitted with overall scores. There is a separate ranking for GPU score only. I looked at the rules and it shows both a 3DMark Timespy and a 3DMark Timespy (GPU). I submitted mine just for timespy and not timespy (GPU).

Here is the separate Timespy GPU score https://hwbot.org/submission/4989617

[sudden torrent]

You're right I misread it. I thought it was the GPU score category.

[steel zephyr]

I was a bit confused because if its GPU scores only, many submissions would need to be removed.

[sudden torrent]

The hwbot site is really terrible on mobile. Half the page is cut off.

[steel zephyr]

When I look at the site on my phone, I end up turning the phone sideways to view the rest of the page.

[sudden torrent]

For some reason if I do that on my phone the keyboard pops up and blocks most of the screen

In fact this keyboard just likes to pop up and say hi a lot

[sterile flame]

one of my VRMs likes to get pretty hot, about 82 degrees when I'm running PBO

any solution for this?

[zenith palm]

82c is fine for vrms

You can wack a fan on them if you want tho

[sterile flame]

It's throttling

that's the issue

CPU is running 82 degrees

at max

[zenith palm]

What's your vrms at?

[sterile flame]

whenever they hit 83, it throttles

[zenith palm]

Check your vrm temps in hwinfo64

Vrms don't have issues until like ~110c

[static oasis]

MSI a320mA pro vrms get to 110-120 🥶

[sterile flame]

Using PBO in my bios and now only half my cores are turboing to about 4.6 and the other half are at 4.1

tf

[static oasis]

Broken CPU

Just kidding

Or am I...

[zenith palm]

If you're reading in bios that makes sense lol

[sterile flame]

no It's in ryzen master

[zenith palm]

Oh yeah don't use ryzen master and bios, they conflict, I'd recommend just bios thi

[sterile flame]

yeah I realized that

just dropped 22k on cinebench

at 80 degrees

[sudden torrent]

Don't say I didn't warn you #old-cooling message

[zenith palm]

They seem to be blind to reading their vrm temps lol

[digital dirge]

What vssca/vssio would be recommended maximum daily for 12th gen? I have ballistix 3200c16 32gb kit e-rev that I can't seem to get better than 3600 16-19-16-36

[modern walrus]

for me Ryzen Master was affecting my settings even after I uninstalled it lol

This finally got rid of it: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/gpu-601?msclkid=8bb30c26ce7011ec8ec16a145bb78bc8

says it's for graphics drivers but worked for me for Master

[proven canopy]

World's fastest 2060 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/75048531

[faint tangle]

thats decently close to my 3060 ti on stock

insane

[proven canopy]

I think my mount wasn't great, only gained ~30 mhz over stock volts 1.3 vs 1.09

https://hwbot.org/submission/4992303_forks_3dmark___time_spy_geforce_rtx_2060_(tu106)_10181_marks/

Also, that 22k cpu score

[sterile flame]

sweet

[sudden torrent]

That's only 5% short of my 3060 overclocked on air, very nice

[potent fiber]

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/28034451/spy/12275976# (what's up w/ these clocks on the 1080? Pretty sus). I just felt like looking up highest gfx score from a 1080. That 2060 sure is a moderate amount higher than my 1080 doing 8400ish

[zenith palm]

That's odd

[modern walrus]

XTU did it too

[proven canopy]

Why is the 1080 average clock only 1500

My effi on the time spy run isn't great, might be Windows 11 or lack of a good os tune, unsure

[potent fiber]

Yea idk, lol. I'll post my own run later & the average clock iirc was 1950+ MHz.

[jaunty dome]

What does overclocking do exactly?

[sudden torrent]

Makes clock speeds higher mostly, which can make other numbers go higher like benchmark scores and fps

[jaunty dome]

So makes computer better?

[sudden torrent]

It can, done properly

Modern hardware you can squeeze about 5-10% more fps out of it without doing anything too crazy

[proven canopy]

More 2060 pics https://i.imgur.com/jig6Br6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YY6bep7.jpg

I think the memory got too cold, was doing +1500 last session, only +1200 this time for 2050 mhz true clock

[faint tangle]

suffering from success

[distant jasper]

I have this 32gb 3200 c14 and someone told me i can push it to 4000mhz if i pushed the voltage to 1.5

Ive been doing a lot of tweaking in the bios and nothing seems to be working

[faint tangle]

it wouldnt surprise me fi you could get 3600c14 or 4000c16, depending on the kit

[distant jasper]

Check this out on @Newegg: HP V10 RGB 32GB (16GBx2) Gaming RAM 3200 MHz DDR4 CL14 1.35V Desktop Computer LED Memory Kit - 48U45AA#ABC https://www.newegg.com/hp-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/0RN-000Z-00P47?Item=9SIARDJGJ84632&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIARDJGJ84632-_-04282022

It was this kit specifically

Its bdie so it should be fine

[faint tangle]

hp (derogatory)

[distant jasper]

Yeah ik i had my suspicions at first

[faint tangle]

im not the best in ram ocing but you should be able to get it pretty high

what cpu?

[distant jasper]

12700k

With a tuf z690

It even advertised it in the description to manage to get 4000 c14 but im not sure what coltage

Maybe it isnt enough

Even though 1.5 should do get the job done

[dull ginkgo]

you prob just need extra vccsa vccio and such

[distant jasper]

Im lost

[sudden torrent]

Basically adding more power to the memory controller

[dull ginkgo]

Try 1.2v vccsa/vccio

[distant jasper]

Both of em?

Alr

[dull ginkgo]

With b die, you could push the voltage on the dimms to 1.55v and even a bit more if you think you can cool it

[distant jasper]

How do i cool ram without removing the heatspreaders

[dull ginkgo]

Fan

[distant jasper]

Yo

I dont see any vccsa/vccio stuff

[sudden torrent]

System Agent is VCCSA

[distant jasper]

Do t see that either

[dull ginkgo]

asus bios is weird

CPU System Agent there, 5th one down

[distant jasper]

Shoot nvm

Im stoopid

[sudden torrent]

Asus has to be different and call XMP DOCP too 🙄

[dull ginkgo]

Asus might call vccio as vtt?

[sudden torrent]

Yeah

[distant jasper]

1.2 right?

[dull ginkgo]

yea, try 1.2 to start

[distant jasper]

Alr

Here goes nothin

[dull ginkgo]

prob want to mess with timings at some point

auto timings can mess you up

[distant jasper]

Noted

Maybe 14-15-15-34 will work

[dull ginkgo]

And you'll prob want to look around for vccio/vtt, it should be there somewhere, unless it has another name

I mean, to start, do like 16-20-20-40 and then pull down from there

Take it slow until you know it's stable

[distant jasper]

Ye its jus a black screen rn

The the dram light on

[dull ginkgo]

give it like 2 min in case memory training is taking a while

[distant jasper]

Restarting…

[sudden torrent]

Training

[distant jasper]

Nvm

Ill leave it on

Wait is booting

Nvm

Posted in safe mode

[sudden torrent]

Ok try the timings he said

Asus calls those weird things too

[dull ginkgo]

should still be tcl trcd trp tras

[sudden torrent]

Yes but they call them differently, the order should be the same

[sudden torrent]

Probably correct

[distant jasper]

Ye i dont think this is workin out

[sudden torrent]

Hard to tell without seeing the left side

You can always drop to 3800, 4000 might be too hard for those sticks

[dull ginkgo]

they should be able to do it with looser timings at least

and I'd try to find vccio

decently important when you're pushing higher clocks

[distant jasper]

Still 1.55v?

[dull ginkgo]

Dram voltage? Could back down to 1.5v for now if you want

But I'd try to get vccio to 1.2

[distant jasper]

Have no idea what its caled in this bios version

Intead of making speeds higher what if i just lower the latency

1.4 c12 3200

[sudden torrent]

C12 is extremely hard to do on DDR4

[distant jasper]

Nvm then

[proven canopy]

[humble jay]

need more system agent than 1.2, try 1.35 for 4000 maybe, though 12700K imc is usually worse than 12900K one, and not even all of those can do 4000

Also you chose gear 1 right, the 1:1 option right above dram frequency

also also, as you increase frequency latency goes down, since the timings are in clock cycles, but yes it may be worth trying to do like 3600c14 as an easy oc

[modern walrus]

ever wondered what all those random voltages in BIOS are? https://hardwaresecrets.com/understanding-all-voltage-configurations-from-the-motherboard/6/ I still don't know but this helps

[digital dirge]

You seem to know about the 12th gen cpus, I had asked a question yesterday about what I could run the 12600k at vssca/vssio for daily use. I'm trying to oc my ballistix to 4000mhz, but am having trouble and it was suggested I up those values.

Do you by chance know what the max i could set those too for daily?

[humble jay]

vccio doesn't exist on 12th gen

[digital dirge]

Ah ok.

[humble jay]

but i mean, there isn't really an official value, it's kinda up to how brave you are, but up to 1.4v should be pretty fine

[digital dirge]

Ok cool. I just want to be able to get 4000/4200 out of the ram.

[modern walrus]

so would increasing VCC18 PCH voltage help CPU or RAM overclocks? no idea but dammit

[humble jay]

something to keep in mind is that some memtest (especially TM5) seem to not care about sa at all, so you should run y-cruncher 2.5b as well to validate that your SA is high enough

[digital dirge]

You lost me, but I'll do some research.

[humble jay]

TM5 is the most common free memory stress testing software (can get it here https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/
y-cruncher is another stress test/benchmark (you can get it bundled here in an easy launcher: https://benchmate.org/ , or individually here http://www.numberworld.org/y-cruncher/#Download)

[digital dirge]

Ah yeah I know about the programs. I was meaning you lost me about the SA

[humble jay]

VCCSA, like if you don't set it high enough, you'll pass tm5 fine, but instacrash in y-cruncher

[digital dirge]

Ah ok

So I had the acronym backwards. Thats why I got confused

[zenith palm]

Only on amd boards cuz they don't wanna pay the 5c fee

[latent wave]

whats the increment for mem for rtx 3000 series? 25 right?

[zenith palm]

Mem is increments of 5 iirc

[proven canopy]

lol https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/368621312119144470/973759576732217414/1652232770588.jpg

[proven canopy]

12900k on ln2 https://www.twitch.tv/beardedhardware

[proven canopy]

https://hwbot.org/submission/4995734_forks_3dmark___time_spy_geforce_rtx_3080_(320bit)_21241_marks

Lol, still loses to my 6800xt on air

[short blade]

tfw my 5800x is unstable at -1 CO with +0 boost override

can only run stock

[sudden torrent]

Quoth the CPU, "stop making me do degrading things!"

[short blade]

i'm really not sure if i degraded it or not

my other cores are all decent it's just core 0

core 7 is handling -30 at +100 fmax

so is core 5

[sudden torrent]

RIP the one core it needs to run stable the most on POST

[short blade]

core 5 can do -30 at +150 fmax but core 7 is my most important core

so i'm focusing on where my core 7 can do -30

CPPC labels my core 0 as my best core but it's actually by far my worst core lol

it's the only core incapable of hitting 4.7

[zenith palm]

Why is that?

[sudden torrent]

Core 0 is the one that the system uses to initialize. That's why when you're doing extreme overclocking and going for frequency records, you can disable all the cores except core 0.
Funny enough, at one point Ryzen Master let you disable core 0. If you did that, the system would fail post 🙃

My best core is actually core 0 so if I ever go for records I'd have a leg up. It overclocks a dream.

[zenith palm]

Oh right i misread as core 5 was most important, was still half asleep x)

[sterile flame]

send results

[sudden torrent]

https://hwbot.org/submission/4951274_forks_3dmark___time_spy_radeon_rx_6800_xt_22260_marks

[sterile flame]

did he push 550mHz on the clock speed?

[sudden torrent]

Looks that way, +550 over reference

[sterile flame]

[sudden torrent]

Time spy page reports a peak of 2570 and average 2535

[sterile flame]

danm

and that's with air-cooling

impressive

[lavish tundra]

on the 11th i will push my 6750XT to its limits on air

am hyped

havent done hwbot in a while

[sudden torrent]

That's Forks for you. His 3080 and 6800XT both beat my 3080 ti by 1000+ points

[lavish tundra]

^^^^

forks is a god

[sterile flame]

[lavish tundra]

oh btw falcie do u know about how timespy scales with ram?

[sterile flame]

i wonder how far i can push this

[lavish tundra]

more but slower or less but faster better?

[sudden torrent]

Less but faster. Dual rank best.

[lavish tundra]

im talking 32 gb dr 3600c16 ballistix xmp vs tuned 16 gb 3800c14 highly tuned stuff

[sudden torrent]

32GB dual rank I should say

[lavish tundra]

My cpu imc is doodoo

for more than 2 sticks

[sterile flame]

oh yeah

@sudden torrent do you know if he pushed his voltages by any chance?

[sudden torrent]

Probably, no idea how high

[sterile flame]

yeah it doesnt say on there lol

[lavish tundra]

look at the timings i am forced to run because 4 sticks:(

the drv str timimngs there are necessary for stability

[sudden torrent]

Yeah those are often needed for 4 sticks

[lavish tundra]

thankfully its rev e

i doubt something like b die would have even booted

[sterile flame]

what're str timings meant to be?

[lavish tundra]

as low as possible

like everything else except freq

[sudden torrent]

Mine are 24-20-20-20

Doing 3800 14-13-13-28

I got so lucky with this CPU and motherboard

[lavish tundra]

also voltage scales negatively past 1.47 or so

[sudden torrent]

Higher can be good for stability, especially with more sticks or higher clocks

[lavish tundra]

2 sticks was sooooo much easier

[sudden torrent]

Indeed, and if it's between 2 sticks or 4 for time spy I'd do 2 with better timings

2x16 dual rank is ideal

Of course you can always do both and just submit the better score

[lavish tundra]

true

[zenith palm]

Have you tried tuning to 3600cl14 or even 15?

[lavish tundra]

yes

[zenith palm]

Big shame :(

[short blade]

imagine leaving 16gb gang

that just looks like xmp timings lol

[short blade]

are you sure?

did you try a VTT offset?

my rev. e scales to 1.7v and possibly beyond

haven't benched anything higher

[lavish tundra]

Tis

[lavish tundra]

Dont have setting

[lavish tundra]

Same thing isnt stable at 1.5v

[short blade]

might just be because of VTT

I've never seen a rev. e kit not scale past 1.5

since you have a 3200c16 kit

have you tried tRCD 19 at 3600-3800?

I wouldn't expect tRCD 18 to be stable at 3600 on a 3200c16 kit

otherwise why would they bin it as a 3200c16 kit

tRCD has 0 voltage scaling on rev. e

[lavish tundra]

It is

[short blade]

how much stability testing did you do

3200c16 binned rev. e usually needs tRCD 19 at 3600

pato's does

I've had some errors intermittent enough to show up 18 hours into testing

anyways I need to study

bye for now

[lavish tundra]

I ran anta x arshia

And anta

[obtuse adder]

Hey hey!

I needs me some help overclocking a 12700k with a z690 tomahawk.

I think I got it. Nvm.

My heart just skipped a beat when I saved the settings and the PC just went, 💀

Only downside is that my PC is 2°C hotter.

[frosty violet]

That’s not bad

[obtuse adder]

Ye. It's thanks to it currently being open air case.

[tall pelican]

might be doing something wrong, but getting 5.2ghz

[sudden torrent]

At less than 1v VID no less

[uncut bramble]

Question. The memory I have (G-Skill Ripjaws V) is 3600MHz. But apparently my motherboard (Gigabyte Z690 UD AX DDR4) can only support 3200MHz max.

The XMP profile only has the 3600MHz clock, and my system very much doesn't like the XMP being set for that reason.

Is there any way to get to the 3200 clock with manual settings so I can run faster than the current (2666MHz per the BIOS)? BIOS has been updated, but no indication from looking at Gigabyte info that the update will help me in this case.

[zenith palm]

your motherboard can do 3600

just enable xmp and you should be good

[uncut bramble]

I had tried thar already, and I kept getting blue screen after blue screen in Windows. Didn't stop til I disabled XMP.

[zenith palm]

might need to mess around with some voltages

[uncut bramble]

Hm. Any advice on that? This'll be my first time messing around with things like that.

[zenith palm]

i mean it could be a bad kit from g skill but i am not really sure on safe voltage range for 12th gen but iirc you want to mess with vssca and vsscio

[uncut bramble]

Any way I can tell if it's just a bad kit, before I go batching voltages up? Heh.

[cedar cypress]

Dram reference clock 100x or 133x

B die 4000mhz cl16 to 3600 cl14

[uncut bramble]

That's Greek to me. Heh.

[digital dirge]

vccio doesn't exist on 12th gen and up to 1.4v vccsa should be fine for daily.

[uncut bramble]

I'm assuming this is a voltage change on the memory? And is this with or without XMP enabled?

[zenith palm]

mem voltage will change with enabling xmp

[zenith palm]

no way to tell without tuning your memory controller voltage

[uncut bramble]

Hmm... Okay. That's not ideal, but... What's my play then? Activate XMP, see what happens, then if things go awry, adjust that voltage you talked about up towards the 1.4v?

[cedar cypress]

Could you inform me on the 100x memory multiplier vs 133x?

[zenith palm]

activate xmp and set vccsa 1.35v to start

[zenith palm]

do you mean like the bus clock?

[cedar cypress]

Yeah

For the ram

[zenith palm]

Bus clock oc also ocs like the cpu and ram

Think you're thinking of something different or not phrasing your question in a way that i can understand 😅

[cedar cypress]

Like by the ram

It says

Dram reference clock

100x or 133x

[uncut bramble]

Does VCCSA go by any other names?

Because I activated XMP, then tried to find the VCCSA to adjust it... But the only thing I found was an Internal VCCSA setting that was locked to Auto.

Op. Scratch that.

BIOS has a mouse interface, but it only adjusts off the keyboard. Weird.

Anyway. Trying that.

[zenith palm]

Yeah internal vccsa is right

[zenith palm]

Can you send a pic?

[uncut bramble]

What's the best test to stress this and see how it goes?

[zenith palm]

Test mem5 extreme anta77 profile

[uncut bramble]

Op. Just blue-screened.

[zenith palm]

If you get one error it's a fail tho and it'll take about 2hrs

Oof

Try 1.4v i guess

Wait

Is the kit in slots 2 and 4 from left to right?

[uncut bramble]

Yes. DDR4_A2 and B2.

[zenith palm]

Yeah then try 1.4v

If that doesn't work sounds like bad ram kit

[uncut bramble]

Alright, upped to 1.4

Rebooting.

[cedar cypress]

Dram reference clock

[uncut bramble]

And you're certain the mobo can handle this memory at 3600, even though everything I've seen says it only maxes at 3200?

[zenith palm]

It does, 3200cl22 is the minimum a motherboard/cpu has to be stable on otherwise it's considered defective

As XMP is technically an oc

Maybe try updating bios

[proven canopy]

I think there are plenty of boards that can't run the highest jdec spec (3200c22) e.g. a 2700x on b450 with 4x8 b-die or similar

[zenith palm]

Yes but their board is z690

[proven canopy]

oh, lol

That should be easy, though sometimes gear 1 can just be broken

[short blade]

it says 2933mhz maximum on the 2700x spec sheet

so yeah, it's the highest jedec profile the cpu lists support for, not necessarily 3200c22

but yeah anything that can slot into z690 is officially rated for ddr4-3200

[uncut bramble]

Latest run yesterday was after a BIOS update.

[zealous atlas]

I need help with my USB Miner build. I have recently purchased 4 GekkoScience Compac USB bitcoin miners and to overclock them at max capacity I need 3A of current supplied to each of them. Thus I need a powerful USB Hub. The problem is that this is a tricky search and I have had no luck in finding the right product on either Amazon, Aliexpress or even Newegg. The left side sort option simply does not have a field to select "max power output per port". Can you guys help?

[zenith palm]

Maybe try manually changing it to gear 2 like forks said

[uncut bramble]

So XMP and change the BIOS setting to Gear 2?

[zenith palm]

Yeah

[uncut bramble]

Alrighty. Stand by.

[restive cargo]

I haven't even really tried overclocking my 12900K yet.

That sucker runs 80-90C at stock under load.
On a custom loop.

@zenith palm What were you saying about cache voltage with the 12900K?

I got the core voltage set, but MSI BIOS kinda weird.

[uncut bramble]

Trying out TestMem5 with the Extreme Anta777 config.

Balls. Already reported an error. Can't read it, but something popped up in the Error status and the text block.

2 errors so far. But this configuration seems a bit more stable than before. Haven't BSOD'd immediately.

12 minutes in, 3 errors, but no crashes.

[short blade]

you should just stop it as soon as you see an error

[uncut bramble]

Lol

Computer BSOD'd as soon as I stopped it.

[short blade]

can you find VCCIO setting?

[uncut bramble]

I think I've run across it before, yeah.

[short blade]

would try 1.15 vccsa 1.15 vccio

sometimes higher vccsa than needed can be harmful to stability

pato recommended 1.35 vccsa which is kind of a ridiculous amount for 3600 xmp

i run 3600 gear 1 on my laptop with 1.15 vccsa works like a charm

gets angry with anything lower though

haven't tried higher, no need

[uncut bramble]

Alright, so... XMP with Gear 2, and set those 2 voltages?

[short blade]

yeah

can try normal dram voltage first, try 1.4v if that still fails

[uncut bramble]

Hmm. Okay, I guess I was wrong... Can't immediately find VCCIO... Got the VCCSA set to 1.15. Any thoughts?

[short blade]

dunno, i have never used a gigabyte intel board

google it or keep digging i guess

[digital dirge]

if it's 12th gen.. there is no VCCIO.

[uncut bramble]

Got it. So it'd just be VCCSA then.

[zenith palm]

For uv you want to match cache and core voltage iirc q

[restive cargo]

I totally don't see that setting.

[zenith palm]

Maybe it's not a setting on desktop then idk only ever done it with my laptop

[short blade]

interesting, didn't know that

[short blade]

my laptop disagrees

core stable at -55

cache can't drop below -0 at all

[zenith palm]

Interesting, throttlestop guide says 1:1 drop

[short blade]

11th gen is weird

core runs at 4.6ghz 1.15v

cache runs at 3.2ghz 0.8v

[zenith palm]

on my laptop it's running -100mv cache and core

[short blade]

idk why my cache is clocked so low

[digital dirge]

Yeah I was a bit confused about it as well at first.. also.. I totally only wrote this so I could ping you. ;)

I guess I didn't really ping you though huh..

@short blade

There

[short blade]

[late topaz]

Might try overclocking my 6600, I've noticed its only drawing some 100 watts of power

Probably won't see a huge difference but eh

Probably will help the few games that need a small preformance bump in 1440p

[faint tangle]

why run 1440p on a 6600 anyways

id rather save $100 on a monitor and spend that $100 more on a gpu

[late topaz]

I play mostly older titles

And the newer titles I even play still run fine at high

Worst preforming game still sits at the 50s and 60s at high

And its RDR2

Which is fine at 60

(Plus I wanted a larger screen and 1080p at 27 inch sounds gross)

So yuh

[zenith palm]

Only 100w of power? That sounds low

Sounds like somethings wrong

[late topaz]

Nah, the swft runs low

Every Yt video I've seen about the swft shows that

Around 100 watts of usage

Good to undervolt

[zenith palm]

What are you using to test it?

[late topaz]

Not too sure yet

Have to get home first

Probably a bench mark software

[zenith palm]

3d mark timespy (3d mark's demo on steam)

[late topaz]

Probably yeah

Dunno if there's much more preformance to draw out but hey

It's free

[zenith palm]

Eh probably a good 15%

[late topaz]

I have a few games that reach the 165fps mark

But miss slightly

So maybe an OC can help get to it

[short blade]

time for vbios modding

[unique oriole]

I have this card https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Graphics-Cards/Turbo/TURBO-RTX2070S-8G-EVO/ and these are my OC settings https://drive.google.com/file/d/17JzXavuYazWbQwwSzvxeT1S9GFFuEcds/view?usp=sharing, not pictured but the target temp is set to 83 C how much more do y'all think I could push the OC?

[faint tangle]

Ocs are specific to your exact card

One 2070 super might be able to do +160 on core while another might only be able to do 90

The best way to test is to download 3dmark timespy demo on steam/from the link in the pins in this channel, and run one. After each successful run turn core clock up by 15 until it crashes

Turn it down to the last successful offset, and then do memory by 50s

And turn power limit to the highest it can go

[tall pelican]

Best part is, because of factory overclocks and boost curves, even doing +160 on the same model card may result in completely different clocks and performance

[sudden torrent]

Just like CPUs. When you simply adjust the boost behavior using PBO or XTU, depending on the burned in v/f curve you might get 2 very different results with 2 of the same chips.

Like for some reason my 5800X is +50MHz from the factory

[tall pelican]

They're all +50 for 5800xs (might be all of zen3) due to "target clock" shenanigans

[sudden torrent]

I wasn't aware of that, why even specify one thing if you're going to completely ignore it at the factory level anyway?

Which of course this makes my +150 PBO effectively a +200 over spec

[sterile flame]

how does the mv slider work in the AMD software? And why is it at max by default?

[dusty gulch]

https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=pr P&cpuId=2316&gpuId=1391&gpuCount=0&gpuType=ALL&deviceType=ALL&storageModel=ALL&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=true&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=

I just stole the top spot XD

I also have the top spot in time spy
https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=spy P&cpuId=2316&gpuId=1391&gpuCount=0&gpuType=ALL&deviceType=ALL&storageModel=ALL&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=true&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=

[tall pelican]

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/11620794 your cpu score is really low for a 2700x

[sterile flame]

Whats a high juntion temp for a 6900XT?

[sudden torrent]

100C

GDDR6 spec lists that as the limit and that's generally where it'll start throttling the power to the card

[finite frigate]

@digital dirge

[digital dirge]

What is the benefit of that? So.. at a certain freq your card is only pulling certain amount of voltage?

[digital dirge]

Or other way around?

[finite frigate]

yessir

[digital dirge]

Maybe I'm to tired.. does the card run hot so you have to do that??

[finite frigate]

card doesnt run too hot, power draw is just too high for the freq

[digital dirge]

Ah so you are doing more so for the efficieny?

[finite frigate]

mhm

as i get higher perf with less voltage and therefore power

200w vs 150w

same perf

[digital dirge]

Oh ok

[finite frigate]

slightly higher currently

[digital dirge]

I'm gonna need to know all this when I get either the 3080ti or 6950xt.

[finite frigate]

make sure you get a "good" 6900xt, some have different dies than the others that lack voltage control

[sudden torrent]

There's a reason that chips perform better at lower temps too. Circuits are more electrically efficient at lower temps, and consume less power to do the same work as it would at higher temps.

[finite frigate]

i and a couple others call them "XTK" models

[digital dirge]

I was thinking of going with nitro+ , but I also want to get one that can be watercooled.

[finite frigate]

mhm, less resistance

[digital dirge]

Whatever gpu I get.. I plan on using it for a long while and I plan on doing a custom loop once the 13900 comes out.

Idk.. I can't wait to take a week vacation to finally get my pc oced perfectly.

I still have to mess with my ram

[potent fiber]

here's mine. peaked w/ 32% fan, 66c, running 950mv. Sometimes it'll do 1974 instead of 2000MHz but doesnt matter. 164w peak in apex. maxed gfx excL cpu at 1080p. definitely much nicer than 200w or more.

[finite frigate]

ram is a boring and week long adventure

[sudden torrent]

I saw today that the MSI Gaming Z 3080 with the triple 8 pin is on sale on amazon and gamestop for $850. I'd love to pick that up and slap the 450W EVGA vbios on it.

[digital dirge]

I'm thinking of trying someone else's oc and see if that works for me. Hopefully:P. Yes I do know oc is different for everyone.

[finite frigate]

a 3090ti would be a very very fun investment for me

at least one of the good ones

[potent fiber]

investment?

[finite frigate]

or like an asus 3080 strix, cause those have the same pcb as 3090s

[finite frigate]

mining but also oc fun

[potent fiber]

GL w/ mining less and less profitable. 3090 has the toasty backside vram, idk.

[sudden torrent]

I guess with the new memory modules it would be better at mining

But yeah that's not exactly a safe investment right now

[finite frigate]

3090ti uses g6x+ right?

which if im not mistaken thats samsung only

[sudden torrent]

Yes, the more dense modules though

[finite frigate]

which is nice

[sudden torrent]

Micron

[potent fiber]

all above 3070 is gddr6x afaik, yes. 3090 ti is denser ram so none on backside

[digital dirge]

I wanted to get into mining, but from the time I started my pc adventure 4 months ago til now.. it has like plummeted crazy

[finite frigate]

the + part is what i was wondering

[sudden torrent]

G6X is micron, G6+ is samsung

[finite frigate]

ah

okay

i hope i can finally daily 5.1 on my cpu with delid though

[sudden torrent]

G6+ isn't out yet, still in sampling stage

[finite frigate]

i can boot and get into windows with 5.5

which is really good for a 7700k

[digital dirge]

Nice

How is it you can boot at 5.5 but can't daily 5.1?

[finite frigate]

heat

[digital dirge]

Oh right

[finite frigate]

kaby lake sucks

intel toothpaste sucks even harder

i need 1.42v for 5.1 and 1.45 5.5 post, 1.42 is just pushing the safe limits of kaby

[sudden torrent]

I yolo'd 1.4v into my ryzen 2700, it survived and I set several 🏆 records

[finite frigate]

1.4 is the safe limit of kaby lake

ive also read 1.42 is fine

im not taking anything less than 5ghz as an aswer after delid

[finite frigate]

i hold a record for 570s lol

just because new category on hwbot

theres tons of 570s that beat me but arent submitted

[sudden torrent]

https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/ryzen_7_2700/
All of the 🇺🇸 are me, I've also got several silvers

Totally crushed it on ycruncher

[finite frigate]

do you daily a 2700?

[sudden torrent]

Nah 5800X

[finite frigate]

ah okay

was gonna say

im sorry for your loss... in frames

[sudden torrent]

2700 was my old chip. And yes, it was painful. When I upgraded from a 1060 3gb to a 2070, the cpu couldn't keep up.

[finite frigate]

yikes

10603 isnt fun

[sudden torrent]

All the artifacting I got on Fallout 4 agrees lol

[digital dirge]

I've never had anything other than this 1650s

Which has only been about a month and a half.

[finite frigate]

YIKES

[digital dirge]

Is artifacting things like.. you can see gaps of void in between things?

[finite frigate]

weird flashes that shouldnt be there

pink or green in color

[digital dirge]

Oh ok

[finite frigate]

gaps of void is just the game

[sudden torrent]

I had a lot of "missing texture so I see random garbage instead" kinds of artifacts

Missing textures being caused, of course, by video memory being full

That was really the first game I played that tried to use more than the 3gb vram at 1080p

[digital dirge]

I just downloaded Assassins Creed Valhalla yesterday... so I'm hoping I can play it at least in mid. Minimum req says 3gb while recommended says 8gb