#overclocking

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short blade
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mx-4

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and uhh yes I think so

proven canopy
late topaz
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before overclock

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did i overclock too low?

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its a small increas

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increase

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@ember wadi did the thing

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I just did +50 core clock in MSi after burner

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Wrong ping

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@sterile flame

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There

sterile flame
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Hello

late topaz
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Hi

sterile flame
late topaz
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I still have a 400 watt psu

sterile flame
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i have a 300w you're fine bro

late topaz
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Dunno how much my components take

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I know cpu is...65?

sterile flame
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you're probably fine

late topaz
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Watts

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I'll try 70

sterile flame
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So you can just keep this running

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while you tinker with afterburner

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instead of waiting for time spy to finish

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idk if the download is slow

late topaz
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I'll try +100

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Hm

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Didn't know my board would let me

latent wave
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Just keep going up by 25 until it crashes or the graphics score goes down

late topaz
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The program or pc?

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Well I assume both

short blade
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15, not 25

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core clocks are in 15mhz increments

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here's a casual 1660 super run you can aim to beat

proven canopy
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Yeah - look up your place on the leaderboard, go from there

late topaz
late topaz
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wait

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read it wrong

short blade
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let's not filter evade right after pinging a mod

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it's there for a reason

late topaz
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The hell is a filter evade

proven canopy
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Haha, still off by 1000 total score - but you can definitely still compare graphics scores

late topaz
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I read it wrong

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Doesn't help im trying it on some garbo pre build

short blade
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and yes, compare graphics scores

late topaz
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Gross

short blade
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that run was done with the steam edition and a stock windows install

late topaz
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I have the random download

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Not steam

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And windows 11

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Id windows 11 matters

zenith palm
modern walrus
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Is there such thing as a good motherboard for memory overclocking for LGA1200 or AM4 that isn’t like $300+? even pre-owned?

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Tempting but damn

modern walrus
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Is it true itx boards clock well because two DIMM slots?

proven canopy
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Often, yes

modern walrus
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Hmm alright thanks

modern walrus
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Damn not bad. I can’t get bdie over 4400 on MSI Z490 gaming carbon, Aorus Z590 ultra, or Asus B550-F

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I have some SR CJR

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Couldn’t get over 4400 on b550-f

modern walrus
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Is MSI godlike good for memory overclock? Is that an XOC board?

zenith palm
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unify x is their mem oc board iirc

modern walrus
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Ah heck okay

proven canopy
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godlikes are stupidly overpriced

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Just go look at what boards are used in the top hwbot subs for a chip

proven canopy
sterile flame
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looking forward to pics 😂

proven canopy
zenith palm
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nice article, i cant wrap my head around this graph tho

short blade
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each row is one CPU

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left is how much higher than 1800MHz the IMC can clock with DDR5 in gear 2

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right is how much higher than 2000MHz the IMC can clock with DDR4 in gear 2

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so for the first one, that's 1888MHz with ddr5 and 2175MHz with ddr4

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which corresponds to DDR5-7550 (1888MHz * DDR * gear 2) and DDR4-4350 (2175MHz * DDR * gear 1)

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repeat for all rows

zenith palm
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ohhhhhhhhh ty

short blade
zenith palm
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the +1800 or +2k threw me off

short blade
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does a good job of illustrating the point that good ddr4 imc doesn't mean good ddr5 imc on the same chip, or vice versa

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two separate lotteries

zenith palm
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indood, makes sense

short blade
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the +1800 and +2000 are basically just like those little axis skips in graphs to keep everything from being stupid sizes

zenith palm
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am hoping 13th gen has similar support but being able to post 4350 flat 17's g1 is pretty damm impressive

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yeah makes sense just didnt click

short blade
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yeah, no shot it's actually stable in gear 1 though

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if it really is then that's a nutty cpu

zenith palm
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no but it can post at that

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it was only a few mins in windows they said

short blade
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yeah I read the whole thing over breakfast lol

zenith palm
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also sips i am still 16gb gang YeeFlush

proven canopy
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I'm not surprised at least one chip could boot windows at those speeds

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Bench stability though..

zenith palm
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but 2/30 did, thats pretty impressive

short blade
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I have a random 32gb kit on my desk rn

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time to become 48gb gang

zenith palm
short blade
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it's a 2x16 kit

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one of the two sticks is defective and i cannot get a warranty replacement

zenith palm
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rip

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do cursed 32gb KermitEmperor

short blade
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think i should just sell the good stick and trash the defective stick

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or offer it to whoever buys the good stick for free with a warning that it gets errors

faint tangle
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16gb +8gb+8gb

short blade
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the defective stick boots windows perfectly fine

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but it will instantly error in tm5 at 2133c16 jedec downbin 2T

zenith palm
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ooof

short blade
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first time i've actually seen defective ram lol

zenith palm
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quite impressive

short blade
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but yeah the good stick is prob worth $35 at least

zenith palm
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def

short blade
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16gb 2666c19 rebranded hynix reject die

zenith palm
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what speed?

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oh

short blade
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they physically rebranded the actual ICs

zenith palm
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id say 35 is fair price

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lol

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who it say on the ic?

short blade
zenith palm
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thermaltake?

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lol

short blade
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but yeah my friend gave me both sticks for free and said they had errors

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timetec

zenith palm
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ohhhhh

short blade
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i asked him if he had the original purchase id for warranty he said no

zenith palm
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:(

short blade
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it's buried somewhere in the terabytes of ram he bought for work and i can't pressure him to dig through all that for free lol

sterile flame
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Hey I have a old intel mother board I'm curious if you can over clock on it

short blade
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is it a Z series chipset?

sterile flame
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or x 🤓

faint tangle
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or y

short blade
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or C 😳

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or W

proven canopy
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No love for C621?

sterile flame
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Intel DG45ID Micro ATX LGA775

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That's the board what I have found people are saying that you can't but other post I have read saying that you can with the old intel mother boards

short blade
short blade
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I could only tell you back as far as when they started using the current H/B/Z scheme

sterile flame
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All good I will just keep on reading articles

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On it thanks anyway

short blade
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some google seems to suggest g45 does support overclocking

sterile flame
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That's what I found but people have been able to with a modified Bois

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So I don't know

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Because I'm so used to ryzen based systems using ryzen master to overclock any of there cpus

faint tangle
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ryzen master is not good

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at all

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much better to oc in bios, even with amd

short blade
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"Although CPU multiplier control isn’t provided, front-side bus speeds are available between 200 and 800MHz in 1MHz increments"

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"Users can push the CPU voltage up to 2.0475V and the memory up to 2.9V"

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reading this feels like going back in time lol

sterile flame
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Thanks for that I go through that soon

short blade
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so weird to read about integrated graphics in a motherboard review

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the reviewer overclocked both the cpu and the ram on g45

zenith palm
sudden torrent
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It's semi useful for zen+ and older, where pbo was trash and manual oc was best. You could set your desired voltage in bios, then step it up a little at a time without needing to reboot to find your ceiling.

zenith palm
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Thought you needed to reboot to apply tho

sudden torrent
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Not if you just do clocks

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If you're changing memory timings or voltage, yes

zenith palm
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Ahhh not terrible then

digital dirge
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If I OC my ram and cpu stable, will I have any issues when I finally add in my gpu?

zenith palm
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nope

sterile flame
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shouldnt

short blade
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radeon cards can be more sensitive than nvidia to ram oc

short blade
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some of the infamous 5700xt crashes were actually attributed to slightly unstable xmp profiles and the crashes would stop when xmp was disabled

zenith palm
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bruj

short blade
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also, I had to loosen some subtimings going from nvidia to 5700xt

zenith palm
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hmm interesting

digital dirge
short blade
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i can't say

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i only know of it happening on 5700xt

digital dirge
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Alright. I appreciate you bringing this to my attention so if I do have issues I know how to go about resolving it.

short blade
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good luck

tall pelican
short blade
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well it happened switching from 3080 @ 4.0 x16 to 5700xt @ 4.0 x16

proven canopy
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Yeah, I've heard of high soc causing pcie 4.0 to drop out

primal cedar
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wait really?

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hmm

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i wonder if my crashes were due to me tightening my timings

fickle prism
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any ideas for ftw3 ultra 3070?

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my oc scanner keeps cancelling for some reason

zenith palm
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Try power slider all the way up,with + 60 core then go up in 60mhz intervals til you crash then dial it back by 15 until it's stable,run 3dmark timespy in between each interval, once you got core done, same deal with memory but start at like 800 then do intervals of 100 til crash then pull back by 25mhz til stable

fickle prism
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oh ummmmm

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will try lol

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i don't want a max oc, just like those free ones that don't harm the card

zenith palm
fickle prism
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oh alright, ill take a look at it soon, thanks 😄

zenith palm
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Np :)

zenith palm
short blade
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yeah in software no matter how much you touch voltage you're still not hurting it lol

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you can try locking 1.25v the card will just say no

zenith palm
short blade
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that's a pretty important distinction to make

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you can touch voltage as much as you want safely as long as you don't hard mod the card

zenith palm
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yeah suppose

modern walrus
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I was thinking I'd replace my the motherboard for my 5900x (ROG B550-F Gaming wifi) in hopes of getting a better memory OC for benchmarks (can't get over 4400mhz, even w/ single rank bdie) & I wondered which of the following was the best choice, considering price:performance:

(1) B550 Unify-X: $255 (open box)
(2) X570 ROG Crosshair VIII Hero: $240 (used)
(3) X570 Taichi: $150 (used but auction)
(4) B550 Taichi: $210 (new & accepts offers)
(5) B550 Gigabyte Vision D: $200 (new & accepts offers, multiple listings at that price)
(6) X570 Aorus Master: $216 (used)
(7) B550 Aorus Master: $107 (auction ends at 11:10AM EST today but there's also a $180 listening accepting offers & it's new)
(8) Better suggestion?
(9) Stick to old board because this is pointless

modern walrus
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waiting to sniper at the last 10 seconds

lavish tundra
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shee

modern walrus
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cuz why drive price up for no reason? I don't understand why anyone does that lol

modern walrus
lavish tundra
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not really tbh

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b550 aorus master is a VERY nice board

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especially at that price

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thats like 1/3rd of msrp iirc

modern walrus
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ya it's used but

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AM4 is basically at the end of its life cycle

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wondering if I really should just wait until next gen AMD drops & these boards get even cheaper

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but this price is kinda like ehhhh

lavish tundra
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tbh tho i might be wrong but you probably wouldnt be gaining too much perf

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since almost all amd boards are daisy chained

modern walrus
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well gosh darn it

lavish tundra
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going to t topo would see gains

modern walrus
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at least I'll be able to run more than 1.8v DRAM

lavish tundra
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im seeing if any of those boards are T topo

modern walrus
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I don't even know which boards have T topology

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topography?

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I don't remember what it's called lol

lavish tundra
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topology

modern walrus
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I think topography is something with maps

lavish tundra
modern walrus
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damn I just realized this board doesn't have external CMOS reset but meh

lavish tundra
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yep it appears all those boards are daisy

modern walrus
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so probably no gain then

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?

lavish tundra
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i mean the master is still a great great board

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and an upgrade over ur current one

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but not too much gain

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i could be wrong tho

modern walrus
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true but I'd like to get better RAM OC

lavish tundra
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ask fork or something

modern walrus
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I'll try

modern walrus
lavish tundra
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Sheeeeesh

modern walrus
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ebay auctions are the best

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kinda exciting even haha

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$133.86 w/ shipping & $1 donation to Ukraine

sterile flame
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W

hybrid wadi
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hey guys dont exactly understand how to overclock

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says my score right now is 651 (omen gaming hub) is this good or bad?

zenith palm
hybrid wadi
sudden torrent
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You can check hwbot.org for your hardware and compare to other people's overclocks also

sudden torrent
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@narrow cape Userbenchmark is really bad.
Try running time spy instead. There's a demo version of 3dmark on steam.

sudden torrent
short blade
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!ubm

left bladeBOT
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`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
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short blade
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it's so bad we have a command for it

lavish tundra
short blade
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maybe tomorrow

lavish tundra
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pog!

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ok time to be more bad

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guys i ovrklok my raisin 5 to 8 gighurtz on 3v is it good oc?

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it is raisin 5 5950x

sterile flame
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x99 beats any modern platform EpicEgg

faint tangle
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I'm doing a timespy run, my gpu isn't going over 52c

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Never repadded or pasted

zenith palm
faint tangle
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Yeah

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It crashed tho, lowered mem oc a bit since that's what caused it to crash the last time I was benching

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Gonna try 210 core again tho, I've only gotten two benches to succeed with that oc tho

sterile flame
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Baddie

faint tangle
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On the last section of the bench, looks like it worked

zenith palm
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Dam

faint tangle
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Pain

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Time spy crashed while loading the results

zenith palm
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Bacca whats your max wattage?

faint tangle
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Which I don't get

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However much a single 8 pin and the pcie slot can give

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104% pl

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I'm pretty sure that crash is from mem though

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Not core

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If this had 2x8 pins it'd be top 20 for timespy

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Red lines just flashed across the bench

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That's memory right

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Crashed

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Alright this is just weird now

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I did a stock run

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And it crashed after the bench finished, when it was loading results again

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Leaving steam open worked

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13188 graphics score

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Doesn't beat my highest, id have to switch to my other boot for that

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Debating if I feel like unplugging my ssd and hdd rn

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Ima be stupid and try 225 core

zenith palm
zenith palm
faint tangle
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Not sure

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210 core 1100 mem worked but since I'm on my main boot jt didn't beat my old best

zenith palm
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Check in hwinfo when you're running timespy

faint tangle
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One 8 pin gives 150w right?

zenith palm
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If you have a spare ssd install forks windows on it

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Yes 150w

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But 75w from slot too

faint tangle
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Then 225w

zenith palm
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Yeah okay

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So same as me then

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Or 5w more

faint tangle
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What's your best score, if you've benched?

proven canopy
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In what?

faint tangle
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Timespy

proven canopy
faint tangle
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Ah

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Wanted to compare mine to patos 3060 ti, but thats a sick bench

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What model 6800xt?

proven canopy
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Reference on air

faint tangle
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Crazy

proven canopy
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I was just limited by hotspot - 52c core temp, 113c hotspot

faint tangle
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I'm taking off both my side panels rn, partially because I always have one off and the other blocks access to my ssd

zenith palm
faint tangle
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Oh forks

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While you're here, do you know anything about asrock bios?

zenith palm
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Got top 1% on my 3070 tho - RIP

faint tangle
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I haven't been able to find all of the voltages and subtimings in here

faint tangle
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So my best bench doesn't count

proven canopy
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Just install it separately

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If you're connected to the net - it'll ask to update anyway

zenith palm
faint tangle
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I did

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Now my benches count

proven canopy
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Honestly - that's one thing userbenchmark does well

faint tangle
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But my best one is 13600 something, my best one that counts is 13400 something

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Will drivers impact benching?

dull ginkgo
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@short blade ran linpack w 30gb last night, looks like it failed 20 minutes in :(

zenith palm
faint tangle
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Haven't had the chance to ask sips, mainly because I have terrible memory

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Not ram

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Brain memory

zenith palm
faint tangle
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Yeah thats annoying too

zenith palm
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Sips is online atm go

faint tangle
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I want to see 3050 ti comparison easily but it just shows 3060 ti

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Not many 3050 ti benches are oced well, so I can see mine since it's top like 15 iirc

faint tangle
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Hi sips

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Good timing

dull ginkgo
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Does linpack tell you what too change for stability at all?

faint tangle
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Do you know where to find sub timings and voltages in asrock bios?

short blade
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umm

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advanced, dram something?

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it's not hidden at all

short blade
dull ginkgo
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rip, gonna be annoying to test

faint tangle
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Thanks

proven canopy
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Someone should make a linux live-bootable linpack iso

dull ginkgo
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I mean, does linpack usually crash on something specific?

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since it passed tm5

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For now I'm going to just put subtimings on auto and run linpack until its stable

zenith palm
faint tangle
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Alr this is going to sound very stupid

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I launched 3dmark, it said to update so I did

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Where do I find the new version of 3dmark

short blade
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I usually include linpack in my "final gauntlet", afaik it doesn't provide any diagnostic info, just "lol you crashed"

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so I don't run it between changes

proven canopy
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I'd like to have some kind of wegg community overclocking contest. What kind of hardware/rules do you think would be most inclusive?

zenith palm
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I think ambient would have to be a rule as most people don't have chillers/ln2

faint tangle
zenith palm
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Uhh usually they give you plenty of voltage stock

proven canopy
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Clock speed limited comps are some of the most fun imo

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No pressure to crank voltage and hurt the chip

zenith palm
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Yeah, what does superpi do tho? Ram or ram and cpu?

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We'd have to surely split into Sr and Dr if only ram especially?

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Idk maybe im trying to make too fair?

proven canopy
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Even so - someone who knows how to tune single rank 2x8 b-die on say 7zip will blow away xmp 2x16 b-die both at ideal clocks

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7zip probably scales the most from dual rank IME

zenith palm
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Interesting

humble jay
proven canopy
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Well that's easy

faint tangle
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Somehow my score got worse on the other ssd

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With the same oc

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Gonna try it again but I don't think I'm going to beat my old best

short blade
proven canopy
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That's easy for a single thread workload on zen3

zenith palm
short blade
short blade
proven canopy
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We could just do like 30 mins of testing together and figure out what clock speed is relatively equivalent for ADL vs zen3

short blade
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might be able to trade for my friend's 5800x

proven canopy
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It just has to be decently close

short blade
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highest I've seen on my best core in single core prime95 is 4.8

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problem is my worst core is rated as tied for my best core for some reason

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and it can only do 4.6

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so I guess I have to hope it chooses the right core

proven canopy
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32m is much lighter of a load than p95 haha

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Could always just say 4.8 zen3

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Whatever matches 5.0 intel

short blade
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I saw it hit 4.95 for a quarter of a second once in genshin impact

proven canopy
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You wouldn't want to use pbo for 32m, you'd run 2c2t fixed voltage

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Shouldn't hurt the chip even on ambient air

short blade
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fair

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just trying to trade my 5800x for my friend's and hope that his is better lol

proven canopy
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I'd be fine with win10 only rules as well - as win7 or xp for intel will give a huge advantage

short blade
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11?

zenith palm
faint tangle
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I spent about an hour and a half doing benches and it amounted to pretty much nothing

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Pain

short blade
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felt that

proven canopy
short blade
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2 hour benching session just to realize my lemon hardware isn't worth points anyways

proven canopy
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Would be using benchmate

short blade
proven canopy
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lol - I just spent a weekend benching without getting any golds

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was fun though, and learned a lot

sterile flame
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That is good

short blade
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you failed to get golds

proven canopy
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12900k/z690 is hard to run on ln2, and both of my apexes have the junk memory layout

short blade
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I failed to get 40th place

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we are not the same

proven canopy
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Right - but on ln2, so the bar is higher

sterile flame
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I failed to get points for my benchmark

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I only get points for hardware 😭

proven canopy
short blade
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I slightly degraded my chip to get like 41st place in cinebench

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L

proven canopy
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You can see what does/doesn't get hardware points here

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And what benches get globals here

short blade
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nvm it's worse than I thought lmao

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61st place

sterile flame
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i’m #33 in the world for my specs on time spy

faint tangle
sterile flame
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That is the only achievement i have for benching

faint tangle
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which i dont really feel like doing just to get a few more points for benching

short blade
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847th out of 672

zenith palm
short blade
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accurate representation of my average silicon lottery luck

proven canopy
short blade
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that's aio

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it's the 360 galahad

zenith palm
faint tangle
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my best score that actually can show up on boards is 13324

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100th place is 13328

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pain

short blade
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I want to bench a 3060ti

faint tangle
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my actual best score is 13412 but i havent been able to replicate that

short blade
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I've had 2 3060ti pass through my hands without being able to oc them

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passed them on as sealed boxes

faint tangle
short blade
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offered to find a stable oc for my friend on his 3060ti ftw3 ultra before giving it to him but he wasn't interested

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😔

faint tangle
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i have to now restart my pc because vangaurd anti cheat likes to mess up whenever a drive is unplugged

sterile flame
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Vanguard is stupid

faint tangle
short blade
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👁️

faint tangle
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supposed to be more drops this week so theres a chance

short blade
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liquid metal time

faint tangle
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its also 1x8 pin so less ocing capabilities

short blade
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oh

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unlucky

faint tangle
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still, for being 1 eight pin its been able to oc very well

short blade
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I cheated against pato by shoving 325 watts into my 3070

faint tangle
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you could get it top 50 id guess

short blade
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my ram oc will probably boost it

sterile flame
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Bozo

faint tangle
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i forgot ram oc affects gpu scores

short blade
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too bad I can't get time spy to complete at 3800c12

faint tangle
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maybe ill have to do that and test it again

short blade
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have to bench at 3800c13

faint tangle
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i have to restart my pc now

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while were here

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as in what that file is

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completely unrelated to ocing, but any idea what this means?

proven canopy
zenith palm
short blade
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15mhz clock difference

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on gpu core and vram

short blade
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ts

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wait I'm remembering the wrong result

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24.3% at the same clocks with 5600x + 3733c14

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here's the compare link

proven canopy
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Different driver - not sure if that's the difference

zenith palm
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@short blade get on my level, 2nd and 3rd place with cpu https://hwbot.org/submission/4868474_
https://hwbot.org/submission/4868464_ - ignore the amount of cpus subbed

proven canopy
#

24% is far more than I'd expect, so maybe some other settings are different

short blade
#

heavily doubt the driver makes 24.3% difference

sterile flame
short blade
#

I definitely think ram impacts graphics score in ts

proven canopy
#

Same, at least for driver alone - but maybe something else changed

proven canopy
short blade
#

gpu core and mem clocks are the same

#

so I'm not sure what else it could be

short blade
#

ah yes, gotta love getting glod s from locked laptop cpus

short blade
#

o v e r c l o k i n g

sterile flame
#

overcooking

proven canopy
#

Generally people respect hardware points more than globals as they're far less pay2win

#

Depends though, if your globals come from #1 fs 6900xt or something, obviously that's extremely competitive, just also expensive

#

It's like buying a premium tier 10 plane in warthunder

short blade
#

oh hey that's my profile

#

I thought those numbers looked familiar

#

also there's no way you have that few global points lol

proven canopy
#

I don't really sub a lot - and much of my benching recently was for country cup

#

Or chasing some hardware gold

#

If I wanted to farm points - I'd bench a bit differently

#

Though, I'm about to with these $80 dual core pentium alder lake chips

zenith palm
sterile flame
#

where is bunny tv

#

btw

short blade
#

banned

sterile flame
#

WHAT

short blade
#

I warned him for talking about piracy too much and he threatened me lol

sterile flame
#

no how he get band

#

Bruh

#

lmfao

short blade
#

said he has connections with Newegg staff and "sorry if you lose mod tomorow"

#

something like that

sterile flame
#

Cap

short blade
#

my phone actively resists allowing me to type like him

sterile flame
#

same

#

period shortcut

short blade
#

keeps replacing double space with period

#

yeah

zenith palm
#

@proven canopy opinions on 2x16 3600 16-16-16-38 1.4v teamgroup 8 pack edition apparently? Talking about buying some for about €130

#

Weird name for 2 sticks lol

#

Wait no it's 1.35v eyeshake

sterile flame
#

thats not a bad deal

storm wedge
#

how much performance should i expect from overclocking, like can oc a 3070 to perform like a 3080?

#

and what about extreme overclocking

zenith palm
dull ginkgo
#

or smth like that

#

it's a special edition of dark pros

proven canopy
#

He's a famous overclocker

#

Not active anymore, maybe because he got called out for cheating a 4770k cinebench sub

dull ginkgo
#

rip

zenith palm
modern walrus
#

anyone know how the hell PBO works on new AGESA?

#

I can't get over 4400mhz all-core

short blade
#

new agesa has known problems

#

recommend downgrading back to a bios with agesa 1.2.0.3

sterile flame
#

what

faint tangle
#

Um

#

I may have had something edible earlier

#

And woken up to that picture here

#

I dont even know where the picture came from

sudden torrent
#

lol

faint tangle
# sudden torrent lol

The funniest thing is my phone was tabbed into discord when I opened my eyes and my phone was right in front of my face

storm wedge
lavish tundra
#

Hwbot soon

proven canopy
#

@static oasis Some phenom x4 and similar chips can be unlocked by certain boards to 5 or 6 cores.

digital dirge
proven canopy
#

Yes, the cores aren't physically disabled on the chip

digital dirge
#

How come they just wouldn't make them all accessible right out the box?

#

I just noticed you said some boards. So hardware limitations?

zenith palm
#

cant remember which one but some old cpus could have some cores unlocked later through a purchase and some just regular binning but some where able to be unlocked as they didnt disable them very well lol

digital dirge
#

Oh ok

proven canopy
proven canopy
proven canopy
# zenith palm cant remember which one but some old cpus could have some cores unlocked later t...

The Intel Upgrade Service was a relatively short-lived and controversial program of Intel that allowed some low-end processors to have additional features unlocked by paying a fee and obtaining an activation code that was then entered in a software program, which ran on Windows 7.
The program was introduced in September 2010 for the Clarkdale-ba...

digital dirge
#

So they locked features with a pay wall. Nice.

zenith palm
#

That's it yeah

tall pelican
dull ginkgo
#

But dunno about 3600c16

uneven flax
sterile flame
#

how do you overclock

zenith palm
#

for cpu - in the bios you change the frequency and a couple voltages, for ram - also in the bios although definitely the most difficult and timing consuming to get stable, you adjust voltages, frequency and timings, for gpu you will download msi afterburner if on nvidia, for amd you can use the drivers or afterburner , then you increase the core / memory frequencies

proven canopy
#

Check the overclocking wiki pin

proven canopy
sterile flame
#

😳

proven canopy
#

I'm even running 240v on the gpu psu 😦

zenith palm
proven canopy
#

Dryer circuit

zenith palm
#

Lol nice #NA problems

crimson tartan
#

what is a respectable for an AMD 5950 16 core?

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lol

#

what is a respectable overclock single or all core* for an AMD 5950 16 core?

proven canopy
grand socket
#

so ik its a repost but with a core boost of +230 and mem +1300
but would these temps allow a higher oc with a little voltage increase?

#

just a little advice would be nice so i can push the card before i send it off to a new home

proven canopy
#

One way to find out

static oasis
#

Can someone explain me in an easy way what CPU multiplier is?

potent fiber
# static oasis Can someone explain me in an easy way what CPU multiplier is?

Basically a cpu can run at 3+ GHz, but obviously the FSB (front side "bus") doesn't. That's what the multiplier is for. it's usually just 100MHz because it effects various things like pcie stuff, ram, etc. 103MHz bus is the general limit, better to leave it alone. multiplier is generally limited on non-K Intel cpus. However, there's usually "turbo/boost" that can be adjusted and in a way OC the cpu at an extra 400MHz give or take for free. old wiki page : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU_multiplier

proven canopy
potent fiber
#

True. base, bus, similar stuff in my head. Helps if I don't use my cpu as an example (😅 ), but afaik we still generally deal w/ the same 100MHz x ___ setup.

static oasis
#
  • so clock multiplier will let me set any frequency that I want?
#

Can I set like 4.1GHz on a R5 3600x (just an example)

#

?

#

(just to see if I got what the multiplier is: (usually it is set at 100mhz), → if multiplier is set to *36 → 1 FSB clock = 36CPU clock
?

proven canopy
potent fiber
#

in my case the 16-36 is literally just a range and besides how ratio/multiplier lowers at idle for power savings, I could also adjust the multiplier myself in bios to pick anywhere from 1.6Ghz to 3.6Ghz.

static oasis
#

Oh okk

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Thank you

sterile flame
#

lapping sucks

digital dirge
#

5.2 P-core 4.0 E-core @1.29v. Used Aida64 to stress test, 1 hour stable (Not sure if that's a good one to use as I am still a noob.)

zenith palm
digital dirge
zenith palm
digital dirge
#

let me look at my notes.

#

I think 1.128 is what it was at on Auto.

#

but I believe that's for 3.6ghz?

#

idk, Skatterbencher shows that 5.2ghz should be at 1.35

#

I'm still a noob so I don't entirely know what I'm doing. I just started at 5.0 P and 4.0 E with 1.27v

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was stable so I figured I'd try 5.2 and bump the voltage up a bit.

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There are like hella other settings, but I just left them at what they were because I don't know what they do exactly.

static oasis
#

Obviously it is good because it has lot of cores

sterile flame
#

@digital dirge R20 score?

#

i wanna compare it to my ivybridge chip just for fun lol

digital dirge
sterile flame
#

sounds good

digital dirge
#

my first one was 7570

sterile flame
#

🤨

#

why is the scoring so different

#

it's on a different scale

digital dirge
#

idk lol

sterile flame
#

oh nevermind

#

yea im just dumb nvm

digital dirge
#

?

sterile flame
#

no its fine

digital dirge
#

Well what is your score?

#

lol

sterile flame
#

3759 on my 1680v2

#

that was at about 4.92GHz all core

digital dirge
#

oh

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rip?

#

lol

sterile flame
#

yea its ivybridge lol

digital dirge
#

I thought I seen a video on overclocking that a guy used a program to set his voltages and clock speeds without going to the bios?

sterile flame
#

yea there's some stuff like that

#

bios is typically the best though, typically

digital dirge
#

I just wanted to try lowering the voltage little bits at a time to see where I can be at stable.

#

oh, the video I found the guy is using something

#

I think called EVGA EleetX1

#

I assume that wouldn't work for my msi board no?

zenith palm
#

I'd assume not

digital dirge
#

I forgot that intel has one. so I'm looking into that.

#

so the intel says I have the voltage set to 1.279, however in the active reading it is saying my voltage is at 1.32v

sterile flame
#

i have evolved my lapping technique

fickle prism
#

should i be scared when overclocking 😳

#

i just started by maxing out power limit and push core clock up by 60

#

and then ran kombustor and it like got loud for a sec then dropped down back to normal

zenith palm
#

For gpu? No that's fine

#

+60 is very conservative

fickle prism
#

alright, im doing what you told me a couple weeks ago

#

i got to this so far

#

stable, when it was +180, it crashed

#

now im gonna do memory

latent wave
#

just make sure u have the start on startup option turned off ***

fickle prism
#

alright i just did 800 and it crashed after 45 seconds

#

yeah i have that on

latent wave
fickle prism
#

oh wait

#

like start with pc you mean?

#

for the msi afterburner

latent wave
#

yeah

#

yeah

fickle prism
#

why so

#

shouldn't it be on to oc?

latent wave
#

well once its stable yes

fickle prism
#

oh i see so basically just leave it off until stable?

latent wave
#

but when ur ocing of it crashes you want to be able to get back in and dial it down easilty

#

yep

fickle prism
#

should i make one save as normal and one as the oc?

latent wave
fickle prism
#

oh alright

#

also any idea why this happens

latent wave
#

go into settings and unlock voltage (dont worry, its safe)

#

also what gpu

fickle prism
#

ftw3 ultra 3070

latent wave
#

nice, reminder to make sure temps are fine

fickle prism
#

yeah it's 60 c rn while testing

#

water cooling 🤩

latent wave
#

pog

fickle prism
#

should i max the voltage once i unlock?

#

i love how as i was typing i crashed

latent wave
#

yeah, u prolly wont see too much of an improvement but theres no harm as long as temps are fine

fickle prism
#

so like this?

latent wave
#

yep

fickle prism
#

alright ill dial down to 700 since i crashed at 775 after 2:15

latent wave
#

i cant tell, ur fans are on auto right?

fickle prism
#

i think so, since i got this new pc i didn't change the fan curve

latent wave
fickle prism
#

no

latent wave
#

then ur good

fickle prism
#

alright

#

i may just leave it like this for like 3-4m and if it works fine ill probably leave it there

latent wave
#

turn artifact scanner on

fickle prism
#

in kombustor?

#

nvm found it

latent wave
#

yeah, it should come up in the menu when u open it

fickle prism
#

got it

#

artifact = really bad ?

latent wave
#

once u feel its stable run a time spy benchmark

latent wave
fickle prism
#

oh wait here let me show you something that happened with old pc

#

it was like pc hell in one picture

latent wave
#

aauhsqgjaif

#

thats artifacting

fickle prism
#

yeah but i got refund so it's okay

latent wave
#

but sometimes it could be really hard to notice

fickle prism
#

ok crashed again 😎

#

650 now

latent wave
#

ur sure ur core clock is stable right?

fickle prism
#

think so, it ran for 2:30 when i tested

#

and it was crashed at 180, but the change fixed it

latent wave
#

personally i leave it on for 10 min and then run a timespy benchmark

fickle prism
#

i mean do you think i should just lower everything a bit to be safe?

#

im not trying to get 100% performance boost, just something for free

#

without harming the card ofc

latent wave
#

no, but i would do the core stabilty thing i reccomended, turn mem to 0 and run kombuster for 10 and then time spy

fickle prism
#

alright, ill give it a go with the core clock to make sure it's 100% right

#

thanks 😊

latent wave
#

keep voltage, power, and temp all at max though

#

those are set by the manufacturer

quaint marten
#

Quick question I have a i9-12900k will I still get 144hz at 1440p with the Asus 3080 v2 bc the avg game speed is 1.71ghz compared to the v1 where that is at 1.91ghz

potent fiber
#

fps*, and yes. No, the main difference is Low-hash rate (LHR) vs FHR. Basically a non-factor for gaming. 1 of the Strix models is what has the 1900ish MHz speed. Don't worry about it.

quaint marten
#

Okay yea bc I have the v1 strix and I’m getting 150fps on apex in high and warzone 144fps on high

#

And I just wanna be able to know I can still get at least 144fps on almost everything

potent fiber
#

Yes I doubt the 200MHz change would be a big deal, especially on something like Apex. Although, I sure as heck wouldn't trade away a v1 Strix unless for a decent chunk of "change". Probably could easily OC an extra 60-75MHz also btw (on a non-strix)

quaint marten
#

Okay for sure

#

But yea I have the v1 12GB compared to the white v2 10GB I’m getting

#

Bc I decided I wanted a white build due to the fact my favorite case dropped a white version

#

I appreciate your help tho

potent fiber
#

Well a v1 12GB model could definitely fetch a decent price, that's for sure. FedoraTip

quaint marten
#

Yea hopefully I can sell for a decent price

#

But yea I just wanted to make sure I can maintain 144fps minimum on like apex and warzone and vanguard or modern warfare

#

On high settings

short blade
#

v1 doesn't automatically mean non-LHR

zenith palm
sudden torrent
# short blade v1 12gb is LHR

But there is the driver version that will unlock the full hash rate when used as a single card and not in a mining rig. It mines like a 2070S in that case.

zenith palm
quaint marten
zenith palm
quaint marten
#

The right is the v1 and left is v2

zenith palm
quaint marten
#

Just the v1 and v2

zenith palm
#

What models? Tuf? Strix?

quaint marten
#

And quick question why is the v1 more expensive than the v2?

#

The strix

zenith palm
#

Oh you know what, they might be comparing strix oc vs non oc

zenith palm
quaint marten
#

I guess the v2 is the same but has LHR for mining which is nothing I’d assume and I’m still good

zenith palm
#

Just an error of that site

quaint marten
zenith palm
quaint marten
#

I have the 12GB strix rn

#

But I want a white build so I’m selling it all to pay for it

zenith palm
quaint marten
#

Lmaooo

faint tangle
#

Alright so

#

How should I go about ocing this 6800xt

#

Start st +75 core and add 15 each bench?

zenith palm
#

Idk the increments for rx 6000 but same concept as nv gpus

faint tangle
#

Do you have a suggestion for what to start at?

latent wave
faint tangle
#

I got 19696 with just unlocked power limit and 100% on fans

latent wave
faint tangle
#

Surprisingly not bad

#

Also cooler=better perf

#

It's just for benching

latent wave
#

But like fan life

faint tangle
#

It's not long term

latent wave
faint tangle
#

No

latent wave
#

Really why?

faint tangle
#

I think its something to do with cooler means it can run at higher freq?

#

Don't quote me on that

#

Pato or someone else would know better than me

latent wave
#

@zenith palm get in here you prolly know this

faint tangle
#

Mr too

dull ginkgo
#

stop it from throttling at higher freq

faint tangle
#

Hi mr

dull ginkgo
#

Higher freq and higher voltage means more heat

#

keeping it cooler means you can dissipate more heat

latent wave
#

But if it’s not getting to the higher temps why do fans need to be at 100

dull ginkgo
#

If you're not manually setting voltage and freq, it's to encourage the boosting behavior to boost higher

#

since boosting will also depend on the temp

latent wave
#

Cool thanks

#

So if I OC’d and temps are well within stable, should I increase fan curve?

dull ginkgo
#

If you're at 1000mhz and 70c, GPU will take a look at that, and say maybe no more frequency for you
if you're at 1000mhz and 40c, maybe it'll boost to 1100mhz, yaknow

dull ginkgo
latent wave
dull ginkgo
#

Just remember, for Nvidia, everything you put in is offsets, +50mhz doesn't mean always running +50mhz, so it can still boost lower and be at a lower freq than before

dull ginkgo
#

if you can notice 80% fan speed, but 50% fan speed is silent to you, just have it sit at 50% until it gets to 80c or smth

faint tangle
#

I dont think ocing is working popular

#

Well, specifically msi afterburner

zenith palm
zenith palm
faint tangle
#

Ah alr

proven canopy
#

No, use overdriveN + morepowertool

fickle prism
#

oh i forgot to xmp when i got this pc

#

is it worth it?

faint tangle
#

Almost no reason not to

#

The only reasons being if xmp is too fast for the cpu or xmp causes issues due to mis matched ram dies

fickle prism
#

alright

#

not trying to harm my gpu

#

evga ftw3 ultra 3070

#

max temp of 73c

#

im seeing massive changes in rdr2

#

i used to play at a meh of 57 fps on full ultra with 1440p and sometimes (rarely) dip to 45 fps

#

now i'm getting stable 57 and soemtimes go up to 80s

#

uh oh just crashed

#

guess i got to retest

zenith palm
#

Nothing in afterburner will hurt your gpu it wont let it

#

I'd drop core by 15 then

#

And I'd keep doing mem - should easily get 950 mem

fickle prism
#

The gpu is evga ftw3 ultra

zenith palm
#

Yeah I'd try +135 core then and 950 mem

#

I'd be extremely surprised if your mem was the issue

fickle prism
#

yeah it would probably be the core

#

thing is that i did 10m of kombuster with those settings and a 3dmark test

#

no idea why it didn't crash there but ig it is a problem

zenith palm
fickle prism
#

yeah

zenith palm
fickle prism
#

alright

short blade
proven canopy
#

Yeah, with 10 chips on the card - it only takes one dud to limit them all.

#

Also - state true clock as seen in gpuz

short blade
#

my 3090 with 24 chips seems to be doing much better

zenith palm
proven canopy
#

@modern walrus What size maxmem? What size sticks?

modern walrus
#

2x8gb XMP 4400c19-19-19-39

#

maxmem 9gb

proven canopy
modern walrus
#

for 1b ycruncher?

#

damn I thought it needed at least 5

proven canopy
#

1B needs 4.3GB itself, win10 at least 700MB

modern walrus
#

sorry I meant my total remaining memory after bcdedit /set removememory 7000 was 9gb

#

termination on gigabyte is additional offset to DRAM v/2

proven canopy
modern walrus
#

drop to 6gb maxmem?

#

okay so -.020v or more?

proven canopy
#

As for trying to bench ycruncher - just see how far you can push the sticks without maxmemming below what ycruncher requires

proven canopy
#

Obviously you probably can't run 2v or even your 1.92 for that large of a maxmem, but who knows

modern walrus
#

damn that's a heck of an offset

proven canopy
#

fixed, but I've typed it out enough I think you know what I mean

modern walrus
#

I believe so

#

4800c14 should be goal then?

proven canopy
#

I don't think that's a realistic goal for ycruncher on 2x8

modern walrus
#

haha same

proven canopy
#

Subtimings will be more important than primaries

#

Go look at the top 5950x sub

#

The top few have zentimings visible

modern walrus
#

best I did was 4800c16-18-18-etc

#

got from 24.361 best time to 24.285 but still not the 24.053 I gotta beat

proven canopy
#

ice bucket aio

modern walrus
#

that would be some major surgery

proven canopy
fickle prism
#

@zenith palm seemed to work better

#

trying rdr2 rn

zenith palm
#

Nice.. can possibly do more mem

fickle prism
#

i don't want to kill the gpu and should i set this to enable on startup?

short blade
#

it is not possible to harm the graphics card using just afterburner

#

literally not possible

#

nvidia has so many hard limits baked into their vbios

#

everything from gpu core temp, hotspot temp, vrm temp, voltage reliability, voltage limit, power limit, mem temp on some cards

#

you'd have to be doing what forks is doing up there to start worrying about even having the possibility of damaging it

short blade
#

sometimes increasing mem can reduce performance without crashing as error correction kicks in

#

you need to benchmark each mem speed change to figure out where the optimal point is

#

anecdotally speaking i have never seen a GDDR6X card drop performance before crashing

#

but GDDR6 cards can lose up to 15% performance before crashing

fickle prism
#

alright, ill look into trying to increase the mem a bit to see if i can get some more performance

#

thanks

#

😊

short blade
#

gl

#

aim for this

dull ginkgo
dull ginkgo
#

Some very normal time spy is going on

short blade
#

wtf happened lmao

dull ginkgo
# short blade wtf happened lmao

ngl I have no idea, first thought would be maybe horrible artifacting for some reason, but I was pushing core clocks, not mem, so I don't even know

#

you can barely tell it's time spy by the fps at the bottom lol

short blade
#

I've gotten plenty of artifacting in 3dmark before but never like that

faint tangle
#

i gave up and alec gave me some advice ive yet to go back to do

proven canopy
#

I need to re-do the pins it seems

faint tangle
#

is that a software or smthn in adrenalin

zenith palm
#

Although google only seems to show just overdrive

sterile flame
proven canopy
#

Going to pile on some cap mods and try again later this week

proven canopy
short blade
#

finally

#

about time

dull ginkgo
#

ooo

steady inlet
#

epic

dull ginkgo
#

wait what

proven canopy
#

There's only 1 sub currently, with a 5700xt, so you can probably get some achievement ez here

#

Look, wegg is in the lead

dull ginkgo
#

lmfao

#

easy hw points atm

proven canopy
#

I'm really glad they decided not only to add it as a bench, but give it hardware points

#

Pyprime is also getting globals

short blade
proven canopy
#

lol damn, so close too

short blade
#

this is the run where i got a really nice graphics score but terrible cpu score cause i didn't bench it properly

#

so now i finally have the opportunity to sub it

proven canopy
#

Guess my 6800xt needs an ln2 pot...

#

Honestly the stock cooler is awful, a $20 aliexpress waterblock on a chiller would probably let me run well over 2600

steady inlet
#

ill have to do it on my 2060m, 3060 and 3080

#

maybe 2070S

proven canopy
#

Easy 6hw points if you're the 1st and only to sub a card afaik

#

oh, weird, I got 15

#

Might take some time for the database to update

dull ginkgo
#

It might've counted 5700xt as same card for some reason?

#

since that guy getting 0pt now

proven canopy
#

Idk, we'll see the update soon enough

faint tangle
#

Forks blue name

#

Green?

#

Whatever that color is

proven canopy
#

Let's dominate the category leaderboard with team wegg scores

tall pelican
#

guess I should do a bench that my hardware is good at LeoKek

tall pelican
#

dun yeeted +0.1v

#

also I think that got hotter than furmark with stock voltage

#

also this card still benches the same after nearly a year of 24/7 mining lul

short blade
#

damn, it's almost like mining doesn't damage your card

#

😳

#

been mining on my laptop for a year now, demonmit told me i'd burn it out in a week

tall pelican
#

also its on the same LM from January of last year

short blade
#

still runnin

#

is the cold plate nickel plated copper? regular copper?

tall pelican
#

nickel

short blade
#

makes sense

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my laptop's cold plates are regular copper so i had to do 3 LM applications

tall pelican
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cpu and gpu are both nickel because Im too lazy to tear it apart and clean it

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rather spend the $10 extra to not have to go in and reLM

short blade
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laptop is pretty easy to tear apart

tall pelican
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true

short blade
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if you got a custom loop that's definitely a lot more work to take apart lol

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i didn't clean off any LM when i reapplied

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just added more

tall pelican
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its more that I dont have QDCs, and Im not looking forward to the day I need to upgrade my cpu/gpu/mobo

short blade
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my core/hotspot delta is way better than it was on the first LM application now

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guess because the soak-in formed a new surface

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what's a QDC?

tall pelican
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quick disconnect

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maybe quick disconnect coupler?

modern walrus
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bro my computer is seeing the future rn

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am I better off tightening 4600 if my board is going to 2nd safe BIOS virtually everytime I try to make changes to 4800? after I reset again it works... it's such a waste of time tho

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