#overclocking

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clever epoch
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ofc, if they're uncorrectable, you don't want to run that

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yeah sorry, I don't have a lot of knowledge on all the ICs. Only my own sticks really

modern walrus
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I'm already pushing 1.455v

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XMP is 1.400 but seems risky

clever epoch
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If you're willing to shell out the cash, you might want to spend ~$160 on some 2x16 Crucial RevE

modern walrus
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I haven't observed rollover but I'm not 100% sure tbh

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ya I would get new RAM but I spent so much on this back when I had zero clue what I was doing

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It's 2x32GB

clever epoch
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if XMP is 1.4 it can probably go up to 1.45, but not sure. Anything about 1.45 is dangerous unless you know the die

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oh 2x32. You can also get 2x32 crucial, obviously gonna cost more

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actually, can it even be MJR? Is there 16 Gbit MJR?

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looks like it

modern walrus
clever epoch
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04266XS820M

modern walrus
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yes S820M is MJR pretty sure

clever epoch
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ok so you have DR MJR

modern walrus
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1.5-1.55v?

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hmm

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could probably hold 4k/2kFCLK at that voltage but

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ehhhh lol

clever epoch
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I wouldn't go to 1.5

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if XMP is 1.4V, I'd say it's reasonable to do 1.45

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but 1.5 is a jump

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especially 1.55

modern walrus
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ya I think you're right

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I'm gonna keep it at 1.455v & see how tight I can get timings

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really CAS below 18 would make this all worth it

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but I think it has to be even number because of gear down

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and I have my doubts about pushing CAS 16

modern walrus
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damn that is nice but $300

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after blowing about that on this memory

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ouch

lavish tundra
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you need 64gb?

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if not they have a 32gb kit

modern walrus
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I wish I knew then what I know now

clever epoch
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yeah I only recommended it because you have 64GB for a reason I assume

modern walrus
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haha nope

clever epoch
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ok then get the 32GB version for ~$160

modern walrus
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the reason was I wanted to build a computer, had little to no idea what I was doing, and thought more RAM = better

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RAM = good
More RAM = More Good

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derp

clever epoch
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hah, well, only once you have "enough" RAM

modern walrus
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ya then do what with this 64gb set tho?

placid oak
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u can get to a point where u have too much ram

modern walrus
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well the motherboard caps at 128gb

placid oak
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what are you wanting to do

modern walrus
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I've opened every PDF, like 5 CADs, & every non benchmark/stress test program on my computer & maxed out at 53% memory

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I'm saying having 64 GB is completely unnecessary but I already have it so I ought to use it

placid oak
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I got 128gb and I totally regret it I'm going to build another pc and half it between them

modern walrus
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ya I should've just thrown one of my 32gb sticks in my 10900K build instead of getting another 32gb set for it

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which was heckin AJR

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I buy the worst ram for overclocking

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cuz pretty rgb...

clever epoch
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lol

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you can get both... it'll cost ya

modern walrus
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What's better: (1) Keep GDM on & stay at 18 CAS or (2) turn GDM off & try for 17 CAS

clever epoch
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I'd keep GDM on. It's negligible performance hit for a huge boost in stability

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you're more likely to hit C16 with GDM on than C17 with GDM off

modern walrus
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ah okay

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now I gotta figure out how to get C16 to work

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(1) get C16 to work
(2)
(3) Profit

sudden torrent
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You'd probably need CR2 with GDM off and odd CAS, so the performance hit from that negates it usually

modern walrus
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As usual, I think you're right

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Even BIOS hangs when I try to run CAS 16

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and if somehow it makes it past BIOS, windows tells me I need to run recovery environment or go back to BIOS

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just sucks cuz even if I leave it at CAS 18 I'm still not getting anywhere tightening timings either

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I can't get below 22-22-42

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and I get those numbers with XMP

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but I did manage to up from 3800 to 3866

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such an exciting time to be alive

amber hedge
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My main systems top scores without custom bios and extreme cooling

sudden torrent
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Not bad at all

short blade
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nice, what's the graphics/CPU score break down on time spy?

worldly wasp
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nice my stock 6900 xt score is 22k tome spy

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with a 10900K

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stock too

proven canopy
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Why would you run a 10900k stock for time spy

worldly wasp
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because

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i was down a stick of ram

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running 2666mhz with one 16gb and 8 gb stick

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cursed

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also

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i misremembered

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it was 22k graphics

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combined was like

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20.5k

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cursed cpu

sterile flame
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Apparently around 10 years ago, a chemistry professor at my college got on a world top 10 leaderboard for a CPU overclock using his own LN2 lol

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no idea what cpu it was though or how fast he got it :(

short blade
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7ghz i7-980x

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๐Ÿ˜ณ

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was fx out yet in 2011

proven canopy
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Not your average zen2 memory oc brokenchamp

zenith palm
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What mem are you using for that

proven canopy
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4400c17 dr trident z

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I've realized that for high core count chips, memory score doesn't really matter in geek3, just need to keep the cores fed for your float score

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Might help int a bit as well

zenith palm
proven canopy
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Dual rank

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Almost any b-die can do 4000c12 on modern intel, good kit+cpu - the meta is 4800c14+

zenith palm
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Damm i assume with active fan

proven canopy
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I ended up just running 3800c14 for geek3, 1.6v

sterile flame
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yea, bulldozer came out octover 2011

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my memory did not fail me

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except for yesterday when i broke two dimms

proven canopy
sterile flame
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rgb

sterile flame
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@proven canopy what are some sources you recommend i give a read or watch? I have about 3 weeks to learn about the more advanced stuff on extreme overclocking for an event going on at my college lol

proven canopy
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buildzoid on youtube, unityoc,antitux,mickulty on twitch

sterile flame
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oh yea buildzoid is great, i love his 30 minutes rants lol

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ill definitely check those other guys out too

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god this is why i dont use reddit, weird kids just downvote stuff for no reason

proven canopy
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What's "best" mean?

sterile flame
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most stable to work with relative to other CPUs of the platform, what can achieve highest clocks relative to other CPUs on the platform, etc.

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does that make sense? idk

proven canopy
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x99 is a notoriously awful platform to bench

sterile flame
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How come?

clever tree
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i cant figure out how ti use throttlestop, does anyone know how to

sterile flame
clever tree
left bladeBOT
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fbi.matt#6969 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

worldly wasp
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crappy ddr4 oc

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extremely cursed bios

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hard to get good boards

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some boards kill cpus

sterile flame
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yes

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im aware

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but i dont have any other realistic options in this case

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i dont have much money to spend on getting another platform

worldly wasp
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what do you have

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and whats the comp

sterile flame
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i just killed my cpu yesterday unrelated to OCing like an absolute bafoon

as for the boards i have access to, a GAX99UD5, and Extreme6 (which has memory detection issues so i probably wont use it)

worldly wasp
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what is the competiton

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best cpu either e5-2699A V4 or 6950X

sterile flame
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e5 2699a is unlocked?

worldly wasp
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no but it has 22 cores

sterile flame
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Id get a 6950x but its a bit expensive

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Oh its not really a competitive competition like that

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It's just a casual hackathon event thing, where making stuff and trying new things tech-related is the goal

worldly wasp
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ah

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5820k should be cheap

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or e5-1630 v3

sterile flame
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yea the 5820k goes for around 50 bucks

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thats the one i had but broke yesterday...

royal shuttle
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Quick question. I'm using a ryzen 5 1600 cpu which has a base clock of 3.2 but OC to 3.6. So is it alright if i put ram withfrequency of 3.6 mhz? Or should I just stick with 3200 or less stick. Mobo supports up to 4133 mhz btw

short blade
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even 3200 can be difficult to run on a 1600

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you should buy a 3200 kit and stability test it, if it doesn't work then downclock it to 2933/3000

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the memory controller in ryzen 1000 is garbage

royal shuttle
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2933 does seem safer, ill check both thanks

short blade
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technically 2667 is the highest speed guaranteed by amd, but 2933 should be easy to hit on basically all samples

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3200 is a gamble

royal shuttle
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Lol the 3200 mhz rams are cheaper than 2933 mhz here. W T F

zenith palm
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Sounds bout right

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2933 is rare xmp

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3000 bit more common but 3000 close enough to 3200 that they just produce 3200mhz mainly instead

royal shuttle
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Found one with 16 CAS latency

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For 120$ CAD

zenith palm
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Ehh what capacity? That seems bit expensive for 3200mhz

royal shuttle
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For 2933

zenith palm
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No, capacity, like 16gb, 32gb?

royal shuttle
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Eh I could just buy a 3200 and downclock to 2900 right?

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16gb

zenith palm
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Yeah

royal shuttle
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It's on sale, original price is 154.99 on amazon

zenith palm
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That's awful

royal shuttle
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Yea xD

royal shuttle
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Imma just get the corsair vengeance lpx. It around the price as the first link and it's all black

zenith palm
royal shuttle
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Its 40$ more expensive here ...

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Oh wait those are 16 gb ones

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I see them. All black right?

zenith palm
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Ye

royal shuttle
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Aight thanks

zenith palm
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Np

modern walrus
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I'm trying to figure out the source of my WHEA errors. Before overclocking memory, every couple months or so I would get a WHEA error of bus/interconnect. Event Viewer showed APCID: 0 or 4 so I would reduce magnitude on Core 0 &/or 4 in curve optimizer. Since mem OC, Event Viewer shows the same APCID: 0. I tried reducing core offset (separate from PBO) & I tried reducing magnitude on 0 to 0 but no success. It may just be the reality of MJR being a crappy die for OC. I am presently running TestMem5 on Anta/Arshia config
& I am ~4 hours in without errors on TestMem but approaching 10,600 WHEA errors on HWiNFO. Below are my ZenTimings. My OC is from 3800c18-22-22-42 to 3866c18-22-22-40 with secondaries as tight as I could get them. It's an underwhelming OC for sure. If anything stands out to anyone, I'd very much appreciate your help.

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btw underwhelming as it may be, I did see an approximately 5-6% improvement in testing on read/write/copy/latency

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btw kit is G.SKILL Trident Z Neo Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR4 - F4-3800C18D-64GTZN

clever epoch
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but you need Rev E for that (very light on the IMC)

worldly wasp
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its alright

worldly wasp
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and can get 3600-3800 pretty stable

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its more that zen 1 boards are turbo crud

modern walrus
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I'm looking to tune the 3800 now

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I dunno if it's FCLK

worldly wasp
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with micron rev e and a non turbo turd board 3600 is completely possible

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check pins

modern walrus
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but I also came to understand that you're supposed to OC memory THEN CPU

worldly wasp
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yes

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read this

modern walrus
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annnd I don'twanna dedicate 90 hours to it rn

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believe it or not, that's what I was using

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guess I overlooked the part about CPU OC after

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I'll start from square one next week or something

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any suggestion(s) to actually pull off dropping CAS from 18 to 16?

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it boots but GSODs a few minutes into testmem5

worldly wasp
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1.4v

modern walrus
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voltage is already maxed at 1.45v

worldly wasp
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better ram

modern walrus
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1.4v is XMP

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lol word

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This kit is so frustrating

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it's expensive as hell but crap

worldly wasp
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4 sticks probably contributes to thst

modern walrus
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32x2

worldly wasp
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ah

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or that

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64gb

modern walrus
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ya when I got it I thought (a) more ram = more good; (b) 3800 sounds fast so that's cool; & (c) what's a CAS & all these other seemingly random numbers

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I maxed out voltage

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and upped all the secondaries & tertiaries under 10 by 2

limber falcon
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i overclocked my 5600x to 4.75 ghz is it a good overclock

tall pelican
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no

limber falcon
tall pelican
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Because you're either going to degrade it, or degrade it

limber falcon
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oh

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how much

tall pelican
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Let me guess, like 1.4v?

limber falcon
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yeah

tall pelican
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Just tune pbo

limber falcon
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what is pbo

tall pelican
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How you're supposed to overclock zen 2 and 3 in order to not degrade

limber falcon
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i just encrest the multi plyer

tall pelican
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Oh, so even more than 1.4v

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That's how you kill a cpu, not how you overclock

limber falcon
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its on 1.4 volt

lavish tundra
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enjoy its last few days

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its gonna die soon

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1.25 ish is the limit of what you should manually do on zen 3

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maybe less

limber falcon
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it has run fine for a week now'

lavish tundra
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do you want it to run fine for another week?

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also it hasnt

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its 100% degraded to some extent

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@short blade degraded 5800x at 1.4v in 10 mins lmfao

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uve run it like that for a week

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imagine

limber falcon
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should i reset bios

lavish tundra
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yes

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and leave PBO on

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and hope and pray to god that the chip will live for a while more

short blade
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lol if you stress tested it to be stable at 1.4v and ran it for a week it's probably already degraded

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but given you're running zen 3 at 1.4v, you probably don't know what stable means so maybe not

limber falcon
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it still gets 11800 on cinebench r23

zenith palm
zenith palm
limber falcon
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its the same score it got a week ago

zenith palm
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Look if you want to degrade your 5600x keep it on then ;-;

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If not use pbo

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Usually better anyway

limber falcon
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what about 1.28 volts

lavish tundra
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is that more than 1.2V?

limber falcon
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yeah

lavish tundra
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then its not safe for manual

lavish tundra
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@limber falcon turn on PBO and hope your chip still has life in it because uve already decreased the life span

sudden torrent
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Gaming is heavily single thread performance dependent

lavish tundra
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single core is the least of his problems

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the cpu living seems to be a bigger problem

sudden torrent
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Yeah the 1.4v is going to kill it soon too, but I'm just pointing out that it is also reducing gaming performance on top of that.

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Since they seem determined to leave it at 1.4v anyway

zenith palm
modern walrus
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is dropping from 3800c18 to 3800c17 worth it if it costs me Gear Down Mode & change from 1T to 2T command rate?

lavish tundra
formal sable
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That is why they say overclock at your own risk

zenith palm
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well theres one thing to oc at your own risk, its another when you do an unsafe voltage, ask if its unsafe and ignore everyones advice as they were looking for echo chamber reinforcement oop

formal sable
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Dang

clever epoch
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Actually, probably worse unless you reduce other timings

proven canopy
tall pelican
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You can overclock and not kill it alzaNoneOfMyBusiness

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Guy also appears to have left the server

zenith palm
modern walrus
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overclockers of reddit

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I gave up and I've been trying to improve the XMP values

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At least I learned a valuable lesson: never buy MJR again

lavish tundra
modern walrus
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I meant the dude running his processor at like 1.5 or whatever

dull ginkgo
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lol

outer wing
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should i run a test for nvidia's automatic tuning?

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i can send my specs if needed

proven canopy
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No, test manually

outer wing
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k

sterile flame
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welp I just ordered the components I need for my x99 OCing @proven canopy stonks

proven canopy
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What'd you get?

sterile flame
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the e5 1660v3 and A650GF

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Hopefully at the event I end up getting decent enough scores to be able to submit something to hwbot

proven canopy
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But if you don't care about points, either are fine

sterile flame
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Yea I just went with the 1660v3 since I found one for a relatively good deal, and I wanted to try it since it's basically the 5960x

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My college does have a 5930k here I could use aswell, so I'll OC that one if I have time after I'm done with the 1660

proven canopy
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Yeah, look at the hardware points for top subs on each chip

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You be able to compete for 8 core globals with either ofc, but fitz probably has them all with the 5800x

sterile flame
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So how does the point system work on HWbot? Im still not sure

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Why do some submissions give more points than others? And what're other things I might need to know

proven canopy
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The more subs there are for a given chip/card the more hardware points the top sub(s) get(s)

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Global points are by core count, gpu count

sterile flame
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Hmm okay

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There might be some LGA 775 CPUs I could use to OC, but I'll have to check if any of this stuff works

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It's also a real bummer that Z87X-OC board is dead. Although there are no unlocked 1150 chips here anyway

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not sure why my college got that board to begin with lol

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There's a Q9550 here I could use, and another core 2 quad, I forget which it is

worldly wasp
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C2Q is cool

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ddr2 and ddr3

worldly wasp
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seby benching his 11900K on ln2

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and he joined the team

sudden torrent
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Welp I'm useless then lol

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Unless I bench my dual core APU?

worldly wasp
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hw points still count!

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dont need to get global pts

sudden torrent
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Yeah but Fitz has the HW points for my main CPU already

worldly wasp
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sub gpu stuff

sudden torrent
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I will once I get my liquid loop installed, hopefully next month

tall pelican
proven canopy
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seby?

tall pelican
proven canopy
worldly wasp
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huh

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oh

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lmaooo

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@humble jay you idiot

humble jay
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wtf

worldly wasp
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oh it got fixed

humble jay
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ohhh

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that was for the corsair comp lmao

worldly wasp
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idiot

humble jay
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i fixed it in like 20 seconds

worldly wasp
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i bet

humble jay
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i got pinged instantly in hwbot discord

sudden torrent
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Yeah they'll do that if you mess with world records lol

worldly wasp
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i wonder

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how many times

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leeghoofd

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and the others

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have to fix this kinda stuff

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i bet its over 50%

proven canopy
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Anything that shows up on the front page will be caught quickly

worldly wasp
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mhz vs mts

humble jay
sudden torrent
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I'm sure that happens a lot yep

worldly wasp
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dont wr have to be manually verified

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or like top 10 global or smth

tall pelican
humble jay
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:YIKES:

worldly wasp
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his voltage didnt kill his gpu

humble jay
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๐Ÿ˜ข

worldly wasp
humble jay
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the only diagnosis i've done so far is that the core isn't a big short circuit

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on any rail

worldly wasp
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dw i killed the first card i capmodded too

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but

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it was a 280x not a 6900 xt

humble jay
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it pulls 2.8 amps at 1.25v

worldly wasp
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one helluva 280x tho

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did 1260 on air at 1.3v and had samsung memory

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so clocked like hell

tall pelican
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man, good thing my cap modded, evc, lm'd 6900xt is still chilling

worldly wasp
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well

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have you seen seby's capmod

tall pelican
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yeah, and its dead now

worldly wasp
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or northbridge dude

left bladeBOT
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Fitz#6900 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

worldly wasp
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bad mod

humble jay
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i was going to do this the same day

tall pelican
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northridge wont do anything

worldly wasp
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oh wair you only techie

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ah

tall pelican
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"customer modified the card themselves, I will charge them $100 fee and send it back" - northridge

humble jay
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yup

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lul

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only tech cemetery might help if i say it was the fastest in the world at one point thinkies

tall pelican
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like, rossman would do more than northridge

worldly wasp
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maybe epower it

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can remove the inductors in the way

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@proven canopy give this dude the tole

tall pelican
humble jay
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check out that gpu score

worldly wasp
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seby get brutus to make you a two stage cascade

humble jay
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ln2 doesn't break my ears

worldly wasp
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slap that on the cpu

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then focus on gpu

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ryzen doesnt like too cold anyways

humble jay
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i have a friend with me, so I can have two people at once

worldly wasp
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or maybe pick up a 10980xe and go to town

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cheater!!

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is that allowed under hwbot

humble jay
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luumi did it

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so

proven canopy
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lol ofc bench meets are within the rules

worldly wasp
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i remember there was that person who got a hot chick to be his assistant

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and pour ln2

tall pelican
worldly wasp
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do you remember

proven canopy
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If you're sharing hardware, just have to send leeg a pic of the two of you

humble jay
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what if it's my hardware but just have a friend helping me pour

tall pelican
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hwbot rules m8

worldly wasp
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true true

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i wish i could buy a 5950X 3D to just cheese

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all of the old gpu fire strikes

humble jay
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i should cap mod my unify-x with all the extra caps I have derpyBlob

worldly wasp
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nice 1500mhz 290x shame i have updated drives and a 3x as fast cpu

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bad seby no

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dont do it

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motherboards dont need more bulk capactiance and you gonna brick the board with your mlccs

humble jay
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x570 dark vs unify-x looks so bad thooooough

worldly wasp
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whats wrong with stock ux

tall pelican
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unix is just poop though

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update bios alzaNoneOfMyBusiness

worldly wasp
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on amd not much other options

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maybe b550 master?

humble jay
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i can't bring myself to use my dark hero again for anythinig

worldly wasp
humble jay
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even feel bad selling it so i haven't

worldly wasp
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why feel bad

humble jay
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two 3090s and a 6900xt ALL died at idle while i was away on it

worldly wasp
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maybe trade for b550 vision dp

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wtf

left bladeBOT
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fbi.matt#6969 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

worldly wasp
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thats brutus level

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three $1000-2500 gpu

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tell me you rma'd

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rma the board

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amd the dead cards

humble jay
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was just benching 10900K vs 5950X with gpu at stock, with stock air cooler, dead 3090 strix while i slept - returned fine
went to school with pc in sleep mode - came home to ded 3090 strix- RMA'd
went to school with pc in sleep mode two days later - came home to ded 6900xt ref - RMA'd and also refunded at the same time

worldly wasp
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oh

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okay

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thats fine at least

humble jay
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i wish i could post LN2 setup pics here already ssadge

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i'll just be active between today and the next time i bench

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going to liquid rubber the board so it doesn't die on me again, although i was about to call it since it was 9pm already anyway

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also now i have to live with the fact that i can't kill this 290X because i don't have another GPU that works with the Z590 Dark

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bios version 1.06 breaks (evga sc btw) 1060 6GB support

proven canopy
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Post away

humble jay
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wish i had taken a picture of 3786 10-10-26 150 tRFC in the BIOS, was trying to get it into windows for a bit

proven canopy
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ngl I kinda want to pick up rocket lake just for hwbot

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Not sure how great of an experience I'd have on just an m12a, but still

humble jay
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very fun CPU, maybe it'll be super cheap next month

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m12a should be fine enough, still validated 6000 mems with it (dark can't do past 5066 with DJR btw)

proven canopy
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I don't own djr - yet, but plenty of b-die

humble jay
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what i have

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rocket lake worth it just for this

proven canopy
#

What's the aida latency if you just run that xmp lol

humble jay
#

i've never tested, probably like 60ns though YIKES

#

Was having issues with the HOT for some reason that I really need to figure out. The EVC software said it was at full blast, but it also reported 65000 degrees most of the time sooo

proven canopy
#

My inferno can't keep up with a 10900k full pot, definitely getting a HOT

worldly wasp
#

seby if you bench hawaii with updated drivers guarantee you will get first place

#

ez globals

#

not globsl

#

hw

humble jay
humble jay
worldly wasp
#

look at salty in second

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and 100mhz below everyone

humble jay
#

not even 5950x too lol

worldly wasp
#

amd fine wine drivers

proven canopy
#

feelsbadman, had the same issue in the team cup ddr3 night raid kepler stage, basically a 9900k + z170 coffee mod bench

#

I ran my 770 in an r720

worldly wasp
#

wait

#

is coffeemod

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and ddr3

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legal

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because im pretty sure theres cometmod 10c parts

#

and on ddr3 that'll slaughter the other ddr3 results

humble jay
#

lmao

worldly wasp
#

in anything cpu dependent

proven canopy
#

It'd only be useful for comps

worldly wasp
#

yeah

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only d3L tho kekpoint

#

or phys will burn up

proven canopy
#

And just the stages like the last ddr3 kepler gpu stage I mentioned

worldly wasp
#

yeah

#

altho

#

laptop 10900K vs

#

9900K

proven canopy
worldly wasp
humble jay
#

i have QQLS

#

no board though

proven canopy
#

Not even the greatest 770 graphics score, but I subbed it real last minute

#

Night raid is limited to 8 threads

humble jay
#

budget HOF ram (oloy)

worldly wasp
#

i want a ddr3 or ddr2 setup

#

phenom or core for d2

humble jay
#

p5e3 premium for $150, then you can buy lots of 20 e8500 for $15

proven canopy
#

If you want to get into 775 -

humble jay
#

is it only for 65nm or whatever CPUs, or for all cpus on that socket

proven canopy
#

Any 775

humble jay
worldly wasp
#

wasnt p45 better

#

higher fsb

proven canopy
#

p5e3 premium would be my choice, apparently they're known to be pretty resilient, very hard to kill

#

I got one from mythical, kinda wish I stocked up on a few bin rejects

#

I know two guys in this server interesting in getting into the oc hobby and it'd be a perfect legacy benching platform

humble jay
#

how much are they "supposed" to cost

#

because google shopping brings up some weird site for $180 without shipping

proven canopy
#

You can get them under $100, just rare to see them on ebay

humble jay
#

well, at least i finally got a cheap 290x, i've been wanting one for a while since I think it's a cool card

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$80 "for parts" but it just came without fans

worldly wasp
#

lol

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290x is cool

#

i have three

humble jay
worldly wasp
#

those are the two blocks

humble jay
#

copper too slim

#

๐Ÿฅฑ

worldly wasp
#

390 active bp?

#

i mean passive

humble jay
#

passive yeah

#

still need to have a fan pointed if i want to run +1900

lavish tundra
#

different sticks running different timings?

sterile flame
#

nevermind, redundant question thinkies

vagrant lance
#

heyo i was wondering if someone could help me choose the right numbers and stuff to overlclock my icpu im not really into overclocking but i know how to and just wanting the few extra fps so if anyone could help that be awsome

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if want to dm me

worldly wasp
#

what cpu gpu and ram

zenith palm
#

And what motherboard if intel

vagrant lance
#

amd athlon 3000g ,

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radeon vega 3

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and 16gb ram

zenith palm
#

What speed the ram at?

vagrant lance
#

2666

zenith palm
#

Is it 2666 ram or is it not running at xmp/docp?

dull ginkgo
#

What Mobo

vagrant lance
#

b450m gigabyte d3sh v2 ,

#

ive overclocked it before but reseted my computer to all stock and just want a professinol to help lol

dull ginkgo
#

Did you buy a 2666 kit of ram or did you buy like 3200 and never set it to 3200

vagrant lance
#

its 3000 but it says in task manager its 2666

dull ginkgo
#

Prob want to enable xmp first

vagrant lance
#

its xpg spectrix d60g is my ram and 2 sticks x8

#

ive never oc my ram so i wouldt know lol

dull ginkgo
#

Xmp is a profile that has the ram run at the advertised speeds

vagrant lance
#

is it a software i download or is it in bios

dull ginkgo
#

It's in bios

vagrant lance
#

alright thanks ,now for oc my icpu do u know a voltage and cs ? i could do

sly apex
#

Hey guys, looking for motherboard options z390 with supplemental 6 pin for gpu power. Currently running a Aorus ultra with a KP 3090 and need that 6 pin for the extra power in case ๐Ÿ˜›

#

Or is the EVGA power link thing good enough

dull ginkgo
sly apex
#

Yes

humble jay
#

Z390 Dark only option for 6 pin PCIe , other options use 4 pin connector

sly apex
#

The card pulls 600W on OC settings

vagrant lance
#

For the xmp do I just do profile 1

sly apex
#

Or should I just get a 5950X and a asus crosshair extreme

humble jay
#

Alder ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

dull ginkgo
#

Kp shouldn't draw more than the standard from just the pcie slot though, usually the extra power is for multi-gpu

zenith palm
vagrant lance
zenith palm
sudden torrent
proven canopy
#

The card still won't pull > 100w peak from the slot, nor do you want it to.

#

Those auxiliary power plugs are for running 4x rx480 or something dumb

sudden torrent
#

Exactly. With a single GPU on the board you don't need to worry about it.

dull ginkgo
#

Didn't 470's draw 140w from slot

proven canopy
#

14 awg is very rare in desktop hardware, 16 is the thickest I've seen

proven canopy
dull ginkgo
#

And also half the pins are gnd or sense, usually only 3 of the pins are 12v

sudden torrent
#

Really? I measured my PSU cables with a caliper and they're 14 gauge

proven canopy
sudden torrent
#

The point stands, even doing 16 gauge wires 10A x 12v x 9 (3x 8 pin) is still over 1000W

dull ginkgo
sudden torrent
#

Yes I cut one of the cables I'm not using and measured the actual wire

#

They're all braided so I couldn't measure without cutting

proven canopy
#

What psu? It's really not printed on the wire itself?

sudden torrent
#

Not that I could see, plain black wire, no print

#

Or print that's the same color as the wire maybe?

#

No wait, my caliper wasn't calibrated. They're 16 gauge.

#

But still no print on the wire

#

EVGA 650 GQ

#

And Corsair RM850x (the braided one)

proven canopy
#

Surprising, usually only 1000 watt+ stuff uses 16 awg for the cpu

#

Maybe some 850w units, I think my seasonic/evga t2 did

lavish tundra
#

forks can 2 sticks in 2 channels run 2 different timings?

humble jay
#

i know that's something that MSI bios can do

#

gigabyte too i think, but i haven't had one of their boards (working) yet

#

still looking for board for my QQLS FeelsSadMan

proven canopy
#

I haven't heard of it, but doesn't seem impossible that some timings on some boards could do that.

lavish tundra
lavish tundra
sudden torrent
sterile flame
#

Nice, this z87xoc board works unlike the other one. Too bad there are no unlocked 1150 chips here, and I don't have any either

#

this thing was just sitting in an ugly case, not even mounted at all, with bent pins of course because for some reason nobody who handles this hardware cares about anything

short blade
sudden torrent
worldly wasp
#

oh yeah 16awg

#

thought it was stull 14

proven canopy
#

I find evga's 16 awg wires to be painfully difficult to bend at times, superflower's are much easier to work with. + no in-cable caps.

worldly wasp
#

corsair

#

my HX1000 is horrible

humble jay
worldly wasp
#

the stock ones

#

the shart ones

humble jay
#

Flat ones are impossible to manage but look nice imo

worldly wasp
#

seby you have cablemaking equipment?

#

lemme borrow

humble jay
#

I saved $10 and got a non ratcheting one

#

Not worth

worldly wasp
#

lmao

humble jay
#

Then I use generic PVC stranded wire which is incredibly stiff

#

Which looks nice I guess

#

But for the 24pin especially it is so hard

#

My favorite was the dual EPS connector

lavish tundra
lavish tundra
short blade
#

i have no idea

sudden torrent
#

Test and find out

tall pelican
lavish tundra
worldly wasp
humble jay
worldly wasp
#

do i want to see

humble jay
# worldly wasp do i want to see

Basically I made the screws into circles, and I had to clean stuff out of my loop, and safety goggle are overrated and a dremel is better than drilling

#

Just look away bro

worldly wasp
humble jay
bold shore
humble jay
#

Then I went to bench outside when it was super cold, GPU idled at 0C (this is when I had a lot more concentrate in my loop, but still my loops hold like 1.5 gallons), and I got so cold I went inside and tucked under the bed, which led to me sleeping with my pc outside and on

#

And the compromised block leaked, which killed my apex, but then it came back after like a week, then kept occasionally dying and working until it killed my golden 11900K a few months later

#

Also corrosion led to fun things like this

#

Around the io chip, cleaning it with alcohol made the reading go down, and with a meter it was correct as well

worldly wasp
#

@humble jay why did you do this again?

humble jay
#

so i made them into flathead

worldly wasp
#

pepega

humble jay
worldly wasp
#

ffs

humble jay
#

i mean it still works, that's what i used for my DDR4-10900 submission pepegahammer

#

i lost one of the thumb nuts though PepeLaugh

#

if i use 3/4 the temps suuuuuck

bold shore
#

surprised you havent shown us duct tape anywhere yet holding something in place

humble jay
#

i'll see if i can find something stupid

worldly wasp
#

dont

humble jay
#

budget chilled ram

#

was trying to get tRFC under 155

worldly wasp
#

wtf

humble jay
#

at 3733

worldly wasp
#

but the ram is upside down

#

wtf

humble jay
#

chilled them then put it back in

#

but it did like nothing

#

i beat burners LN2 superpi 32M on aio though

#

oh and yeah this is how my loop looked before backplate blocks were a thing/people were even starting to do it

#

worked pretty well

worldly wasp
#

how were those bends

#

they seem tight for zmt

#

and how were ram temps

humble jay
#

Yeah they were pretty tight, angled fittings helped. And I think they stayed under 75 ish

#

But the optimus backplate is waaay better

worldly wasp
#

nice noiseblocker

humble jay
#

best airflow fan apparently, and also looks nice instead of an a12 there

proven canopy
proven canopy
#

Who could've possibly thought this was a good UI

humble jay
#

do + and - work though

#

Doesnโ€™t on asus for mem freq copege

proven canopy
#

On giga, page up/down will increment/decrement and it's annoying coming from asus

humble jay
#

Why page down?!

#

Smh

proven canopy
#

Clearing cmos after a bad oc takes a good 2 minutes

#

This experience is hot garbage thus far vs the zenith

sterile flame
#

what board is that lol @proven canopy

proven canopy
#

trx40 xtreme 1.1

humble jay
#

Wonder how TR compares to that for clear cmos time

#

With how long it takes to initialize ram itโ€™s probably way worse though

proven canopy
#

Benching on the zenith is wonderful compared to this

#

Much of that is just asus bios vs whatever this mess is

sterile flame
#

@proven canopy For some reason my CB scores are lower after I went from 4.5GHz to 4.6, and now that I go down to 4.4, it's still low.

I've checked temps, power limits, vrm temps. everything seems to be fine so I'm kind of stumped.
At 4.6ghz, my vcore is at 1.35v, input voltage is at 1.92v, and LLC is at level 1

proven canopy
#

Has the OS been corrupted at all? Same results on a clean image?

sterile flame
#

It's a new install

proven canopy
#

CB has a ton of variation , is the average still lower?

tall pelican
#

admin/realtime?

sterile flame
#

Yea, after 5+ tests

#

yup

#

the good 4.5GHz score i got was 1287 on R15, the bad scores all hover around 1065 to 1090

proven canopy
#

Would be really nice to take glod on ambient water, but I think 290 is too hard to beat

humble jay
tall pelican
#

Even though tfaw's min value is 4x trrds, and trrds min value is 4?

humble jay
#

apparently helps with hidden timings

proven canopy
humble jay
#

these worked for 2x16 at 3600 with my 5950X at 1.6v is the only other thing i see possible

proven canopy
#

And it's not due to RNG - efficiency multi there is .964 - quite low

#

hwinfo reads read bandwidth around 78GB/s and write around 25, so I'd imagine the tRDRDs should be the focus

tall pelican
humble jay
#

forks said he was running triple rank at one point, thought not sure if he still is

tall pelican
#

DD is for 2+ dimms per channel

proven canopy
#

I did some brief testing, but there didn't seem to be any out of the box scaling

tall pelican
#

SD is 2+ ranks per dimm

humble jay
#

and yeah i prob could have gotten DD to 1 at the time, oh well

#

so not helpful

proven canopy
#

So SD vs DD is distinct for each of 4x8 vs 2x16 b-die in a t-top board?

tall pelican
#

SD is the ranks per dimm, DD is different dimm timings

proven canopy
tall pelican
#

When I get on my pc, I'll show 2x8 and 2x16 shenanigans with timings

humble jay
proven canopy
#

I recommend a ts8000 + mapp, propane is fine though

humble jay
#

yep, that's what i got

#

was going to use ts8000+ propane but it only cost like $12 more vs only getting ts4000 head

#

although it's map pro not mapp, which apparently is the actual good stuff but doesn't exist anymore

proven canopy
#

The new map is just propylene, the OG mapp was only problematic because the flame has too much hydrogen

humble jay
#

๐Ÿ’ฅ

proven canopy
#

Not a safety hazard, but it'd make welds in metals like steel very weak

humble jay
#

oh really? guess that makes more sense tbh

sterile flame
#

@proven canopy oh i fixed the issue btw

#

At some point I must've put the CPU Cache ratio to 12, and didnt noticed it stayed at 12 even after putting it back to auto....

#

dont ask why i lowered it to begin with lol

humble jay
#

was reminded that they aren't anything special since it's 2x16 :P

#

here's what it was

prisma arch
#

my timings for 3600mhz ram are double that
hek

#

howd you get your trcdwr that low

humble jay
#

it's a timing that doesn't do much, so several ICs can just always run 8

prisma arch
#

oh ok

tall pelican
#

1800if on a 5950x MildPanic

proven canopy
#

Pretty conservative voltages there too, aren't they?

humble jay
#

Later I just ran 4200 c16

#

1.2 SOC, .89 VDDP, .95 CCD, 1.1 IOD

#

This was when I cared about WHEA

tall pelican
#

3800 dr should be ezpz without whea, otherwise just whea suppressor it

proven canopy
humble jay
#

Then ig i decided that 3733c14 < 3600c12

lavish tundra
#

My 3600x gives no whea errors at 1900fclk

zenith palm
worldly wasp
#

rev e moment

lavish tundra
worldly wasp
#

because i know the ram code

#

M8FE1

#

micron 8gbit rev e

lavish tundra
#

ahh the code at the bottom

worldly wasp
#

yes

lavish tundra
#

You have any suggestion for me

#

like any values that jump out

#

that I should work on?

worldly wasp
#

tRCDWR should be floored

#

tRAS tRC can go lower too

#

try 4 tRRDS

lavish tundra
#

trrds and trrdl will be made 4

worldly wasp
#

and 16 tFAW

lavish tundra
#

That was gonna be what I try now

worldly wasp
#

WTRS and WTR can and should be lowered on b die dunno about rev E

#

an d WR

#

terts too but you're working with rev e

#

try GDM off too

lavish tundra
#

stick no boot with trcdrd below 18

lavish tundra
worldly wasp
#

naw

#

gdm off cl14

lavish tundra
#

hm that makes a difference?

#

will try those tho

short blade
#

tRCDWR can likely go 9-12 though

#

I'll send you my timings to look at

#

I intentionally run looser tRFC than the tightest stable due to living in cali

#

high ambient

#

you should do the same

#

280ns is stable when it's cold enough

lavish tundra
#

my trc doesnt go below 55 either

short blade
#

mine boots at 51 but degrades performance below 55

#

tighten tRP before tRC

#

and tRAS before tRC

lavish tundra
#

Im gonna save my current timings to a profile and send all ur timings

short blade
#

lmao

#

probably won't work

#

apparently I have one of the better rev. e bins

#

C9BLM code

#

but you can try it

lavish tundra
#

@short blade We have boot

#

at 1.5V

#

I might have good bin ram

proven canopy
trim sparrow
#

Should I overclock my ram to 3200 mhz before installing windows?

proven canopy
#

no

trim sparrow
#

Ok then i should do it afterwards then?

lavish tundra
#

the question is should you overclock ram at all

#

what ram you got?

lavish tundra
#

Oh XMP can be enabled before or after windows install

#

doesnt matter really

trim sparrow
#

Ok

proven canopy
#

I would do it after until you know you're stable

lavish tundra
#

fair but the chance of instability on that particular ram is VERY low

proven canopy
#

Probably, but is it worth it for 10 seconds off 10 minutes of install?

lavish tundra
#

Oh btw I changed the reset button on my case to clear cmos jumpers and its honestly so good while OCing ram

proven canopy
lavish tundra
#

10/10

#

ram no boot? we save settings and let u into the bios

#

no need to load a profile

#

I absolutely love it

#

Honestly im in love with that chip... Stays so much cooler and draws so much less power than my slower ryzen system (cpu wise)

proven canopy
#

Yep, heatkiller block + 420 ut60

#

I did just buy a chiller though..

worldly wasp
#

want my 480 monsta kevinla

#

ooh

#

which one?

proven canopy
#

At $80 shipped? kinda

worldly wasp
#

sub amb?

proven canopy
#

For practical benching - I'm just going to build one

worldly wasp
#

ah

#

nachtfalke-esque cascade when

proven canopy
#

single stage soon โ„ข๏ธ

lavish tundra
worldly wasp
proven canopy
#

Brutus just shipped me an evap, so maybe in the next few weeks

lavish tundra
proven canopy
proven canopy
#

I think it is, yeah, it's from mythical's cascade

worldly wasp
#

ah

worldly wasp
#

did you get a refund for your mythical

proven canopy
#

Everyone did

worldly wasp
#

it was out a while ago

#

nice

proven canopy
#

I only ever ordered an evap, no units

lavish tundra
#

@short blade send rest of ur timings

#

like a pic of only ur timings

zenith palm
lavish tundra
#

low effort ram oc

dull ginkgo
#

lol

zenith palm
lavish tundra
#

also im running lower voltage than him too

zenith palm
proven canopy
#

@restive cargo up your air conditioning game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OR8ZPrlDXk

This is the final build of the Chiller.
12,000 BTU Capacity. IPG 50% Blend.
120 VAC @ 642 Watts in total with all pumps and compressor.

Minisplit Glycol chiller
R-410a 52 OZ Charge. ( Will Retrofit to R-32 in the future)

NOTE: 1 part polyurethane foam will not work!

YOU MUST USE 2 PART POLYURETHANE FOAM IF IT IS THICKER THAN 2 INCH!

We use...

โ–ถ Play video
acoustic crane
#

Hey so I'm running cinebench with my r3600x and during single core run the core peaks at about 3.5ghz, but in multicore all cores sustain 4-4.1ghz

humble jay
#

So yeah, my DJR hard walls at 6200 even with LN2 and cpu and ram

#

Kept the board dry this time though

acoustic crane
acoustic crane
#

Also I can only run my 3200mhz ram at 3133 without crashing, idk if that's part of the issue or not

#

Any help would be appreciated:)

humble jay
acoustic crane
#

Pretty sure I do

#

Slots 2&4 from the left

humble jay
#

Hmm, 3133 is especially bad

zenith palm
acoustic crane
#

ok ill try that

zenith palm
acoustic crane
#

I just set the speed to 3133 and timings to auto

zenith palm
#

That's your problem

#

Enable xmp/docp(if you have an asus board) in the bios

acoustic crane
#

yeah but the xmp is 3200 which doesnt work

#

like it does sometimes but other times it boot loops a bunch

#

and then turns off xmp and runs ram at 2133

#

even with setting the speed it sometimes reverts it to 2133

#

anyways imma go look for PBO

#

by chance do you know where it is in ASROCK bios?

zenith palm
#

Just try doing xmp, and leave everything else alone, if that doesn't work, your ram kit is faulty and you should u rma it

zenith palm
acoustic crane
#

Should I change it from Auto to Enabled?

zenith palm
#

Enabled

acoustic crane
#

K

#

Got a better multicore score but singlecore speeds are still really low

#

Is that normal?

#

Peaking at 3.8ghz

zenith palm
#

Odd

zenith palm
acoustic crane
#

It's at 3200mhz now I believe

#

I did the xmp and it booted

#

If it keeps resetting when I turn off/restart my PC I'll look into RMA or something

lavish tundra
#

I cant see a few under aida windowww

zenith palm
short blade
#

so doesn't matter

#

also I'm not really surprised that the ones you tried worked

#

I thought you tried everything at once lol

#

did you also test performance?

#

also you're at 2T

#

and I'm at 1T

#

which is probably why you passed 3800c14 with less voltage lol

#

1T GDM off

lavish tundra
#

Damn ill change to 1t tomorrow

#

Gdm is off

short blade
#

2T is always GDM off

#

GDM can only apply to 1T

lavish tundra
#

So how i do 1t gdm off

acoustic crane
#

Scored 1222 on cine R23
Anyone know if that's a decent singlecore score for a 3600x?

short blade
#

took more voltage as well as tuning cad bus, rtts, everything

lavish tundra
#

Sippy imma bug u a lil when i wake up tomorrow

#

I sleep now

short blade
#

you may need to settle for 1T gdm on

#

still much better than 2T

lavish tundra
#

Aight

#

So theres no toggle for 1t gdm off?

short blade
#

well you'd set 1T and set gdm off

#

but you may have to do a lot to stabilize it

lavish tundra
#

I shall do it tomorrow

#

My brain doesn't work anymore

#

Im exausted

short blade
#

gn

worldly wasp
#

ive ran 2t gdm on

short blade
#

huh

sudden torrent
#

GDM just makes it easier to run 1T

short blade
#

is there any practical situation where you would ever want to run 2T GDM?

worldly wasp
#

valids

#

but not really besides that

short blade
#

ah fair enough

proven canopy
#

Catch up on those season rankings bros

tall pelican
#

have no fear, I just ordered 5 gt 710s

proven canopy
#

Better see a 5x gpu gpupi bench from you soon

humble jay
#

i'm about to potentially gain a ton of points

tall pelican
humble jay
#

6900xt ocf ๐Ÿ‘€

proven canopy
humble jay
#

yep

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just have a mora on the other end with pumps and res I use for every board

proven canopy
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I currently use them as well - but I put 50cm or so of 1/2 zmt between the block and the qdc

humble jay
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easier to store with short qdc run

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Also damn - that's a ton of mlcc's on the back of that card, what is it?

humble jay
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6900xt seby edition

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now with a crater

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โ„ข๏ธ

proven canopy
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What's extra on it?

humble jay
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like a million mlcc

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let me get picture

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did like nothing lol

proven canopy
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Somewhat related, do you guys want the hwbot role hoisted or higher than the mee6 roles?