overclocking

[sterile flame]

ran for about 45 min while playing roblox with my sister

90 is highest

[proven canopy]

Probably accurate, but use hwinfo64 instead

[short blade]

forks do you have any input on my issue?

not the biggest issue but a bit annoying

[proven canopy]

Yeah no idea, sounds like a ghost

[modern walrus]

So I know ya'll like Aorus boards... maybe you can help me. How do I enable Intel Virtualization Technology & VT-x in BIOS? Also, what does IA/SA VR Config Enable do?

[proven canopy]

So I know ya'll like Aorus boards
uhhh

[modern walrus]

okay maybe not then haha

[proven canopy]

Actually though, just search for virtualization

AMD-V is what AMD calls SVM

[modern walrus]

My bad this is for the z590 for the 10900K board

[proven canopy]

vt-d

[modern walrus]

oh alright I got that enabled

[proven canopy]

vmx?

[proven canopy]

so f9 then type in vt

[modern walrus]

The reason I'm trying to is because I can't get Core isolation, Security processor, etc. to show up in Device Security

F9 doesn't do anything lol

[proven canopy]

I would google your mobo model and virtualization

[modern walrus]

Is there a USB setting that stops my Corsair keyboard from letting me change colors using function-F[x]?

sorry this is really specific annoying crap isn't it?

[proven canopy]

I wouldn't take the time to give advice if I didn't want to

[modern walrus]

I appreciate it

What's a Block Sid?

ah to heck with it I'll just enable SA IA VR & see what happens

oh wait nvm now all this crazy loadline current limit stuf came up

what does raiding CPU Base Clock do?

[modern walrus]

Turns out I'm 2 BIOS updates behind. Flashing now which is mildly terrifying since the last time I did a BIOS update I bricked an MSI board

[cunning roost]

oc? i heard of oc ram before

3200mhz goes niceley at 3600?

3600? to hmm

or 4400mhz. oc too? um theres not much with some brands don't make ram beyond 3600mhz

[faint tangle]

Genuine question, are you high?

[zenith palm]

Usually, it depends, and when you up those freqs you also have to increase latency

[south sky]

No it's not

That'd actually be really interesting though

Set 1.2v or so and it does what ever clocks it can by the boost table

Wouldn't be practical but would be interesting

[south sky]

It enables or disables the advanced configuration for those rails

Auto is enabled, and you want it enabled

[zenith palm]

Nice ram buying for overclocking guide
https://youtu.be/JT2184c63Tg

[orchid flame]

Dude just buy B die or Crucial

Like I don’t recc anything else for normal people, DJR included

[zenith palm]

fair enough just thought it was kinda nice showing which ones have b die basically

[short blade]

https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

[zenith palm]

Ohh didn't realize that was a thing lol

[short blade]

now you do

[left blade]

alatron978#7416 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[south sky]

B-Die finder is garbage

[short blade]

oh?

alright then

[twilit hedge]

It's kinda stale

[short blade]

as in not updated?

[twilit hedge]

Last passing build was in March, last build of any sort was in April

[short blade]

thanks for letting me know

[wanton flame]

should i overclock an amd ryzen 5 3600?

if so im new to this wehat does it do

[south sky]

Depends on how new the chip is

Newer chips can do 4.4ghz+ whilst some older ones can't hit 4.05

[sudden torrent]

An example of how B-die finder can be bad, my kit isn't listed even though it's definitely b-die with a XMP voltage of 1.45v at 4133 speed rating. (Spectrix D40 is listed but not my 4133 2x8 kit)

[south sky]

That's less of the issue

The bigger part of the issue is there are many kits that can be not B-Die

And the person who runs it knows that, but they refuse to change it

[wanton flame]

wdym bye chip?

[barren ridge]

the batch the chip is in

earlier ones does worse

while later ones does better

chip is the cpu itself if you're asking about that

[wanton flame]

so would the chip b the 5 3600 or the 6 core or 12 threads?

[barren ridge]

uh, it's basically a short word for the cpu

not its part

[faint tangle]

Not always

Depends on the silicon used

[barren ridge]

on average

[wanton flame]

So then what did he mean by if the chip is new or older?

[faint tangle]

Mine is pretty late for a 3600 and a bit under average

[barren ridge]

don't have to be pedantic :p

[wanton flame]

How do I tell if mine is new or old

[barren ridge]

well

[faint tangle]

You'd have to take the thermal paste off if it's used

[barren ridge]

there's probably a way but i dunno

[faint tangle]

Which most of the time isn't worth it

[proven canopy]

Why do you need to tell? Bench it and see what it does

[faint tangle]

There's smthn on the front of the chip that says it

[faint tangle]

What I was about to say lol

[wanton flame]

I don’t know how to bench and that’s why am asking because the dude said don’t venture if it’s late

bench

[faint tangle]

Cinebench works or timespy on steam

[proven canopy]

I would use occt

[wanton flame]

That’s why I came here because I don’t know how to benchmark or overclock anything

[faint tangle]

Benching is easy I figured it out without any help for cinebench

[proven canopy]

Nothing wrong with that

I highly recommend this software https://benchmate.org/

[barren ridge]

anyhow, older batch of chips generally does worse, but not always ofc

[faint tangle]

Just download cinebench off of Google or Microsoft store, open it, and you can run multi core and single core benches

I'd go with forks reccomendation

[wanton flame]

What does benchmarking her overclocking even do?

[faint tangle]

They prolly know more than me

[barren ridge]

that's why silicon lottery is a word

[proven canopy]

Honestly, use occt for this use case

[barren ridge]

benchmarking is testing your performance

[wanton flame]

But it doesn’t like boost stuff in games?

[barren ridge]

uh

[wanton flame]

Don’t make fun of me I never really paid attention to overclocking

[barren ridge]

benchmarking is a test

[wanton flame]

So all it does is test how could you see if you were‘s

cpu is

[barren ridge]

you check your performance through scores basically

[proven canopy]

Just don't use CTR - clock tuner for ryzen or DRAM calculator for ryzen, both are

[faint tangle]

For example, a while back when I had slow ram my 3600 was on par with a 7700k, with faster ram it's only slightly under an 8700k/3600

[wanton flame]

how do I know if their good scores?

[faint tangle]

There'll be a website online with the scores

[proven canopy]

Check the pins

[wanton flame]

How do I know it’s a good

k

[faint tangle]

Idk about the bench fork linked

[wanton flame]

so it doesn’t boost games or whatevs

and what software thing do I go to?

[zenith palm]

Benchmarking basically tests how well your cpu can run, for performance improvements that's where overclocking or precision boost overdrive (pbo)(ryzen 3000 and up) will come in to play

[wanton flame]

so should I overclock anr5 3600?

[proven canopy]

If you want

[barren ridge]

Performance gains wouldn't be much

But like forks said

[zenith palm]

For gaming if you want some extra performance enable precision boost overdrive in the bios

[faint tangle]

For me it didn't really do anything, hell I've gotten higher scores without pbo than with it, but I think that's just my chips silicon

Tho tbf scores on cinebench don't always dictate gaming performance

[zenith palm]

Single core is better with pbo but all core would be worse than an oc afaik so

[faint tangle]

I was talking about single

[zenith palm]

Was it a specific cinebench single core run?

[faint tangle]

Nah multiple

And I made sure to close background tasks

Well actually when I had pbo enabled I had conflicting ram dies

The higher score was from after I fixed that

So maybe that lowered the score

[zenith palm]

I mean specifically cb single core and not the multi core run?

[zenith palm]

That would do it

Slower speed on ryzen bleh

[modern walrus]

I think HWiNFO is broken on Windows 11

[short blade]

damn bro insane overclock

[barren ridge]

nice oc

[modern walrus]

haha you think I need to reinstall since I did a BIOS update or something/

I mean wth it's so far off

I thought it was rgb software messing it up

but I reverted to an earlier version of the rgb software that never had issues & it's still goofy

[modern walrus]

has to be windows 11

[faint tangle]

Wouldn't surprise me

[modern walrus]

I wonder why it says this...

[sterile flame]

could running testmem5 under wine cause issues

like make it not run properly, cause i use linux and testmem5 isnt on there

[lavish tundra]

Man really pushed 1.412 v through a 5800 for benchmarking and acted like its fine

[lavish tundra]

Yes

[sterile flame]

doesnt run anyways

[modern walrus]

I doubt PBO did that for you lol

My 5900x is never gonna show 4,600mhz+ running CB is it? 😭

[south sky]

well 1.369v but yeah it's steve what do you expect

In his discord he was telling people to run 1.4V into zen 2

literally thinks 1.4V is safe for everything afaik

[modern walrus]

is afaik as far as I know?

[south sky]

yeah

That poor 5800 and 10700K

[sterile flame]

is 1.45v bad

i use it on my ram

[modern walrus]

How can I find out the bin number for 5900x? Is 4,582.9/core on CB crappy?

[south sky]

depends on what is getting 1.45v, the clock speed, load, temps, etc

[modern walrus]

I use 1.45 on my RAM

stock is supposed to be 1.40

I forgot to change it after I gave up my overclocking RAM crusade

[sterile flame]

rlly need to see how far i can push my ram cause i could feel the speed increase in general usage alone

[south sky]

if you run 1.45v into most modern cpu's you are going to have a very bad day, but almost all ddr4 ram can take it

[sterile flame]

zen+ moment

[sterile flame]

whats safe for cpu

[modern walrus]

If you run 1.45 under load right? idle I think 5900x hits like 1.48+

[south sky]

depends on what cpu

[modern walrus]

PBO runs me up to 1.319 under load

I just defer to AMD for that one

[sterile flame]

atthlon 3000g

[lavish tundra]

Fair lol 1.35v is too high for zen 3

[lavish tundra]

On what

Cinebench?

[modern walrus]

5900x CB ya

[lavish tundra]

Lol

[modern walrus]

Prime95 it's like 1.15

[lavish tundra]

Thats not a heavy workload

Run prime95 small ffts and see what it settles at

[south sky]

like mid 1.3's

[lavish tundra]

Thats the voltage you should use

You can pass a full cinebench all core test and crash completely while opening task manager

[modern walrus]

I should use 1.15v? How do I tell PBO to change its mind?

[lavish tundra]

Voltage offsets

[sterile flame]

p sure ive ran it at 1.4 quite often

[lavish tundra]

1.25

[sterile flame]

its the only way to get 4ghz stable iirc

[modern walrus]

ya but then I'll barely tough like 4.4ghz/core without crashing

[lavish tundra]

Test again and let it sit for like 30 mins

See what voltage it settles at

[sterile flame]

do yall know linux stress tests

[lavish tundra]

And set pbo to auto everything

[modern walrus]

Sorry I'm a little confused as to whom which statement is directed

Auto everything? like TDC/EDC/PPT?

[lavish tundra]

All my statements are directed to you

[lavish tundra]

Yep

[modern walrus]

Prime95 test?

[lavish tundra]

Set pbo itself to auto

Over manual

[modern walrus]

I thought only like LLC & Scalar will alter PBO's defaults?

[lavish tundra]

And prime95 small ffts for 30 mins while testing keep hwinfo open

[lavish tundra]

You can use curve optimiser

And per core voltage offsets

[modern walrus]

(if I frustrate you because I sound stupid, it's because when it comes to all this--I admit--I'm pretty stupid) isn't Curve optimizer for voltage offsets?

[lavish tundra]

Exactly

Voltage offsets is what you want no?

[modern walrus]

Yes

but as of right now only like 3-4 cores (can't remember exactly) are already magnitude -30

I'm sorry let me say that again

only 3-4 cores are NOT at -30

[lavish tundra]

I see

I would still test p95 again to make sure what voltages you have selected is what you want

[modern walrus]

I've spent at least like 30 hours and made like 4 spreadsheets working on this

[sterile flame]

yeah nah i need a ram stress test for linux

[lavish tundra]

There is a chance that 1.3v+ can degrade zen3 over time

[sterile flame]

ive never gotten my ram to go 3333 and its working all of a sudden

no way its stable

[modern walrus]

(again ignorance) I haven't really actively selected voltages... have I?

[lavish tundra]

Nah

Itll take time

But yeah definitely wouldnt daily those voltages

[modern walrus]

I mean like rn in CB it'll hold between 1.300-1.306 for most of the render

most it'll hit is 1.313 (when actually loaded, not between renders)

[lavish tundra]

You can pass a cinebench test and have the entire pc crash while opening task manager

Cinebench is a light workload

[modern walrus]

I think maybe my EDC is too high. Temps never exceed 83 but I'm running 164 amps

[lavish tundra]

Should be used only to compare improvements between ocs

Nothing more

[modern walrus]

that's what I use it for

because I'm trying to get over 4600/core

[lavish tundra]

You sayin u used it for FIT testing as well

[modern walrus]

but I can't get past 4575

[south sky]

gn steve also degraded a zen 2 chip from 1.4v and blamed the board 🤦‍♂️

[lavish tundra]

Oof i don’t remember this

If easily possible could you link me this vid?

[south sky]

it happened in his discord server

[modern walrus]

okay rn running small fft I'm 1.163v, 4,426mhz, & max temp 83.8

[sterile flame]

no, fr how should i stress my ram in linux

prime95/mprime?

[lavish tundra]

Keep observing for 30 mins or so

Voltage will keep fluctuating for a while

[modern walrus]

alright. So far 1.175 is the most it's hit

I reset HWiNFO to see max

[lavish tundra]

When it completely settles down then what it settles down at is the FIT voltage for ur cpu

[modern walrus]

1.181 is max rn

[lavish tundra]

U dont want max or min

You want to see what it stops fluctuating at

[modern walrus]

what does FIT stand for?

[lavish tundra]

And that takes like 30 mins or so

[modern walrus]

& that's what I want the max voltage to be under load, including CB load?

[lavish tundra]

Im not too sure myself as to what the fullform is. I dont think there is a fullform and it just means fit tho

[modern walrus]

where's tjmax on 5900x? 90 or 100?

[lavish tundra]

Max voltage doesnt matter

[modern walrus]

but like during render?

when it's relatively stable for like 30 seonds ish?

[lavish tundra]

Btw ur watching the svi2 tfn sensor yeah?

[modern walrus]

yes SV12 TFN

[lavish tundra]

Like 1 min or so

[modern walrus]

oh that's an I you're right

[lavish tundra]

That voltage that you get is what you want ur cpu running at max for an all core oc

[modern walrus]

oh but I'm doing PBO not all core

I was just saying what all the cores read during CB

[lavish tundra]

Yeah but you can still set a static voltage im pretty sure

[modern walrus]

oh really for PBO you can? I didn't know that

[lavish tundra]

The frequency doesn’t matter rn

Just the voltage

[lavish tundra]

Lemme just verify

Sec

[modern walrus]

ya no worries I don't have anything to do lol

[lavish tundra]

Doesnt seem like it

Just use curve optimiser

[modern walrus]

I can set an offset tho

[lavish tundra]

Yee

Ask someone like sips about help with curve optimiser tbh

Im not very knowledgeable

Never used curve optimiser myself

Or even pbo for that matter… its bad for my cpu

[south sky]

co is amazing

[lavish tundra]

I have a degraded 3600x

[south sky]

zen 2 doesn't do co

[lavish tundra]

Yep

Cant use it even if i wanted to

I don’t even run pbo

Static 4.3 all core at 1.225V

[modern walrus]

Does anyone know where to find bin statistics on 5900x?

[south sky]

silicon lottery maybe, no on really does it though

silicon lottery hasn't done zen 3

No point really, CO is just so strong

[modern walrus]

well... just wanted to know if I should be doing better than 4,575 generally

if I look through forums there seem to be a decent amount of people getting like 4700+

but it's also the internet so people lie lol

like I've only gotten 23k+ on CB a handfull of times

other times I'm getting like 21k which is wack

[south sky]

ccx oc?

[modern walrus]

what's that?

Look at this clown: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-5900x/21.html

"increasing voltage ot 1.5 V pushed heat levels too high" come on man

[lavish tundra]

lmao

[modern walrus]

it must be nice to be one of those youtube clowns who get free stuff

then you can do things like run 1.5v & not care

"pound that like button" I hate youtube

[lavish tundra]

I dont trust anyone with overclocking advice except some people on here

[modern walrus]

There's so much variation. I always come here because people know their stuff & advice is pretty consistent

[lavish tundra]

Exactly. people know their stuff

[modern walrus]

you start googling & hitting up youtube you'll end up with utter nonsense

Like right now I'm reading a 5900x review on pcgamer.com & this dude doesn't even know PBO exists

[lavish tundra]

overclocking yt guides for ryzen are about as painful to watch as the verge build guide

[modern walrus]

Manual overclocking to 4.6GHz at 1.3V produced the biggest uplift in Cinebench R20, with a score of 9,062, which is even faster than 16-core, 32-thread 3950X manages . . . [u]nfortunately the single core performance still suffers under this overclocking regime, and the performance dropped by seven percent to 594. Perhaps per CCX or per core overclocking will change this after the fact. But, for now, it just isn't worth overclocking these chips.

how do you not know about PBO & write for pcgamer? where's the update to the article?

Trying to overclock with yt/website advice is worthless

[sterile flame]

my 2400mhz ram booted at 3600mhz and im baffled as hell

something cant be right 🤨

[modern walrus]

oh wow prime95 is up to 1.194 & 90.3 degrees

[lavish tundra]

c die probably

what are your primaries?

[modern walrus]

average 84.9

I could fry an egg on core 8

[sterile flame]

wdym c die? and my primaries?

[modern walrus]

197.026 watts

okay it's been over 40 minutes. 1.169 is the winner I guess

[lavish tundra]

the physical chips of storage that make up ur ram stick

c die

[modern walrus]

my water temp is up to 33.4. Usually it's around 28

[lavish tundra]

2400mts and 3600mts

[sterile flame]

is it safe to keep it at this?

[lavish tundra]

probably

might be slower than 3200 tho

depending on primaries

get into bios and send me pics of all ur timings

ram timings

[sterile flame]

its the same cl

i used "memory try it"

[modern walrus]

msi board? l

[sterile flame]

yeah

[sterile flame]

still do this?

[lavish tundra]

yes

[sterile flame]

alr

[clever epoch]

Inb4 crash while opening task manager

[modern walrus]

huh? lol

[sterile flame]

linux, and it ran a stress test for a couple of mins fine

[modern walrus]

what happens if you increase bus clock? Bus*multiplier=frequency right?

is there a reason my bus clock shows 98.9mhz? shouldn't it be 100?

well... CMOS clearing time

[sterile flame]

LOLLL rip

[modern walrus]

no it's good. I'm back

lol

changing blck from 100 to 100.5 raised bus clock from 98.9 to 99.2... I'm thinking of gambling another .25 or something

nvm I'm putting it back to default

[clever epoch]

BCLK also affects PCIE communication, so be aware of that (PCIE will be your stability limiter)

Assuming you're talking about your AMD system

[modern walrus]

Does SB Clock Spread Spectrum affect bus clock?

[clever epoch]

Intel separates the two, I'm less familiar with that

[modern walrus]

yes amd

I've also read turning off SVM can bring back your 2mhz of bus clock]

but I don't think disabling virtualization is a good idea...

[clever epoch]

I wouldn't bother, it doesn't do anything

[modern walrus]

isn't it one of those windows requirements?

[clever epoch]

(going for the 0.2 MHz bus clock)

[modern walrus]

2mhz not .2 lol

[clever epoch]

It's like 0.2 on the bus. It shows up as ~2 MHz on effective clocks

If you're actually getting 98 MHz bus clock, you've touched something in BIOS

[modern walrus]

well bus is at 98.9... wouldn't getting that extra 1.1 increase clocks?

[clever epoch]

Is it actually at 98.9 under load?
Sometimes I see 99.8, are you sure you're reading it correctly

[modern walrus]

That's what HWiNFO says

let me boot back up & I'll show you

I was perusing BIOS to see if I messed with something

but outside PBO, fans, & enabling resizeable BAR, I don't mess with much

oh & TPM

that's about it

Now it's showing 99

[clever epoch]

Check what it does under load

[modern walrus]

same thing w/ CB right now

[clever epoch]

I wouldn't really worry about bus clock too much anyways

[modern walrus]

that .1 brought the /core mhz up from 4575 to 4586 in this test

[clever epoch]

I haven't really messed with it myself, but it's really not relevant for CPU overclocking

[modern walrus]

but you're saying if I mess with it it can mess up PCIe communication?

more like 4575 to 4578 btw lol

[clever epoch]

Yes, the PCIE bus timings are controlled by BCLK, so you'd be limited by your PCIE interfaces/devices

[modern walrus]

so even a .2 change is pretty significant?

[clever epoch]

Nah, that much shouldn't matter

[modern walrus]

adding 2mhz put me into clear CMOS territory

[clever epoch]

X570 you usually top out at 103

Yeah that's about right

[modern walrus]

I'll see if I can get away with .3 or so

eh or I should just leave it alone huh?

[clever epoch]

Why bother? It doesn't do anything

Only worth pursuing if you're trying to squeeze every drop out of your memory overclock. It doesn't do anything for your CPU

[modern walrus]

oh I thought it might if bus*ratio=effective clock

lol I threw in the towel on memory overclock

[clever epoch]

It is, but your CPU is almost unaffected by BCLK

[modern walrus]

Any idea why the bus clock goes down anyway?

[clever epoch]

And I'm pretty sure if your BCLK is low enough, the CPU will just up the ratio to compensate. Never really tested that though

Idk why BCLK sometimes goes down, it drops to 99.8 sometimes for me as well but I don't really worry about it

Seems like it's random every time I boot.

[sudden torrent]

Every PC does that, it's hard for it to hold an exact number

[modern walrus]

okay I'm not going to mess with it. More of a headache than it's worth

[sudden torrent]

That's how you get weird readings like 3798.6 MHz

[modern walrus]

"ASUS Performance Enhancement: allows CPU to maintain boost frequencies longer, resulting in higher performance"

that's just scalar isn't it?

[sudden torrent]

Sounds like it, plus power limits maybe

I know my board has its own set of power limits

[modern walrus]

this thing will put EDC at 190A if I set board limits

[sudden torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[modern walrus]

lol ya & tj max

[sudden torrent]

I doubt there's an automatic setting that touches thermal limit

[modern walrus]

CPU Core Current Telemetry: Offsets the current read by the processor for VCore in miliAmps. May add boost frequencies if adjust downwards but affects accurate power readings

so set motherboard to lie to CPU?

at 166 amps I get in the lower 80s on prime95

with 16mm OD PETG cooling

& and 18w like 1230 liters per hour pump

[sudden torrent]

That's a setting that I haven't heard of, sounds dangerous

[modern walrus]

ya not touching that either

well let's see what performance enhancement does for us

yup

put amp limit to 180

overrode my 165

[sudden torrent]

I love when the descriptors for settings are placeholders in my bios. A lot of the memory timings just say things like "tRTP help"

[modern walrus]

ya I have those but instead they just say, "no help string."

well... I'm turning this off

there are BIOS settings that the manual just skips over

like uh don't mess with this. It's here but don't mess with it

[sudden torrent]

That's really common too. The manual only covers the essentials and trusts "experts" to know what things do and accept risks.

[modern walrus]

this is my favorite setting, where they try to game the benchmarks

[sudden torrent]

There's no descriptor for scalar at all in my bios

[modern walrus]

haha there's none for mine either

is 2x scalar safe? lol

[sudden torrent]

Lovely. Curve optimizer just says "curve optimizer" like that's supposed to be obvious what that is and how it works

[sudden torrent]

Yes and no. It'll degrade your cpu faster but we're talking 5 year life instead of 7.

[modern walrus]

SoC/Uncore OC Mode: forces Infinity Fabric, memory, & integrated graphics to run at max specified frequency at all times. may improve performance at the expense of idle power savings

5 years? I hope I've gotten like 2 new computers by then

at least one

how much can this realistically improve performance?

[sudden torrent]

Scalar? It just holds boost clocks longer

[modern walrus]

I mean I can put my fans at full blast all the time and it might improve cooling

oh I meant this SoC/Uncore OC Mode

[sudden torrent]

Oh, what that helps with is negating the time to switch from idle to performance mode, improving response time

[modern walrus]

eh I guess I'll enable it then

whats a IOMMU & a TSME?

[sudden torrent]

IOMMU is mostly used by Linux operating systems, you can leave it off of you're just doing windows and it's optional for Linux

I'm not familiar with TSME but I can give it a Google

[modern walrus]

I'm trying to find any little setting that'll give me that last 200mHz I need to have 4,600mhz/core during CB

wait jk not 200

like 30mhz

[sudden torrent]

TSME is mostly an enterprise level setting

On which cpu again?

[modern walrus]

5900x

[sudden torrent]

What temp do you hit in CB?

[modern walrus]

like maybe 80 on one core

mostly 74-78ish if I remember correctly

[sudden torrent]

Not bad but could be better.

[modern walrus]

I could reduce EDC & get almost identical frequencies but 2-4 degress less

well ya maybe it could be better but I dunno how I can possibly improve my cooling without finding a way to get sub ambient

[sudden torrent]

I've dunked my radiator in an ice bucket before during hot tests, it dropped me from 70C to 24C real quick

[modern walrus]

hahaha

that's not exactly practical

[sudden torrent]

No but it's effective

[modern walrus]

that would be mission: impossible with PETG pipe

I'd make a mess

[sterile flame]

update, 3600 was indeed, not stable

[modern walrus]

rn hottest core during CB is 78.1 on 10 yet only 65.6 on 0

[sterile flame]

would 14cl 2400 be faster than like, 3200 tho at cl 16?

[sudden torrent]

You'd be surprised, most of the mess I made was confined to a towel I laid the rad on after

[sudden torrent]

No

[sterile flame]

alr

ill see what i can do at the cl 16 ones then

[modern walrus]

maybe I'll put a AC wall unit behind the computer & take the side window off

oh wow enabling that SoC/Uncore OC thing has me holding at 4599.3 rn

it's mocking me

[sudden torrent]

If you're on AMD higher frequency helps the most due to faster fclk, if you're on intel focus on timings

[sterile flame]

amd

[modern walrus]

but wow I am staying at 459x

[sterile flame]

linux doesnt have any real stress test tools for ram so im

playing games to test if oc is stable

:V

[modern walrus]

can you do like mem test or whatever that runs in DOS when you restart

[sudden torrent]

Oof that's unreliable

[modern walrus]

form like a jump drive?

[sterile flame]

wdym

i mean it has stress tests like stress/stress-ng,

[sudden torrent]

Memtest would work but it's very slow at picking up errors

[sterile flame]

but they arent targetting ram specifically

[modern walrus]

wow the other thing I did was set a negative voltage offset

of like .040

maybe I can drop it lower?

what a difference

[sudden torrent]

Yeah I've got a small negative offset too, it really does help

[modern walrus]

& it's keeping SVI2 at or below 1.300 under load so far

[sudden torrent]

I usually do -0.0125v to -0.025v

Any lower and I drop clocks

[modern walrus]

oh wow so .04 was kinda ambitious

[sudden torrent]

You have a different chip than me

[modern walrus]

this raised the clocks for sure

[sudden torrent]

Every one will react differently

[modern walrus]

I guess there's a bell curve effect to it

either that or I'll just drop stability

or will PBO just adjust clocks to remain stable? hmm

[sudden torrent]

It'll drop clocks long before it's unstable

[modern walrus]

VID wants 1.419 & I'm giving it 1.288

heck maybe I can get to 4,700

getting greedy haha

heck I'm saving that profile in BIOS

I'm trying .06

Idle voltage is like 1.4 something so it should be fine at idle I think

maybe I will do that 180 amp EDC

crash

[sudden torrent]

Well now you know where the floor is

[modern walrus]

I'm gonna try it one more time with EDC bumped from 166 to 175

probably won't help but gonna try anyway

cuz I noticed with higher EDC, I could set higher offsets per core on optimizer

but maybe that was a coincidence or something

[sudden torrent]

No that makes sense, if it's allowed to draw more power it can hold higher clocks

[modern walrus]

ah okay well if this crashes I'll try the full 180

that's the motherboard max

is that too high? I dunno

[sudden torrent]

It really depends on your VRM but I think we already checked and they were good before

[modern walrus]

ya and I stuck a 92mm Noctua fan in there to blow on them

Fan #19 lmao

[sudden torrent]

180 is no sweat then

[modern walrus]

lowest per core it's hitting is 4592 but that's like the highest it was hitting before

maaan I should've listened to you before about the voltage offset

I tried a small one then just said to heck with it

probably cuz I was at like 135 for EDC

[sudden torrent]

Possibly

Another thing to keep in mind is that's only measuring amps

[modern walrus]

alright well I'm gonna bump to 180 & see what's up with a .055 offset haha

[sudden torrent]

Volts x Amps = Watts

[modern walrus]

thermals are all sub-80 so chillin

haha yes I learned that in journeyman class before I threw it all away to go try to be a lawyer again

[sudden torrent]

Sounds about right

[modern walrus]

you know what's freaking crazy? how amperage is lower on a on a three-phase system than a single phase system at the same voltage

[sudden torrent]

So with a max amount of Watts set (by the bios for protection) if you lower the voltage you can add more amperage and get the same Watts

[modern walrus]

because w=av on single phase is watts = 120v x amps but on three phase it's w=120v x (amps x square root of 3)

if I remember correctly

[sudden torrent]

The official letters are different but that's the gist

[modern walrus]

ya ohm's law is like p=iv or something

sorry p=ie

[sudden torrent]

Mmm pie

[modern walrus]

ya that sounds fire rn

[sudden torrent]

Don't forget resistance, because why not complicate it more?

[modern walrus]

I=E/R

oh wait I had a -.06250 offset

hmm 7 or bust?

I wish I did engineering in college instead of being an idiot drunk

[sudden torrent]

You can try it and see how it reacts

[modern walrus]

the increments are .00625

[sudden torrent]

Yeah I think mine are too, weird number to pick

[modern walrus]

So I either have to go .06875 or .07500

.075 I guess at 180a

[sudden torrent]

Dang now you're making me want to play with the settings on my chip

[modern walrus]

I wonder if it crashes, if I increase magnitudes by like 1 (i.e. -30 to -29) if that fine tunes it more than the .00625 increments

[sudden torrent]

I guess it's a good time to redo my OC anyway, I just updated bios

[modern walrus]

oh ya it's time

did your profiles survive update?

My Aorus update from F2 to F4 lost everything

Maybe I should've done F3 firs tor something

had to redo gosh darn fan curves

pain in my

[sudden torrent]

No it automatically clears settings before it goes into flash mode

Or do you mean if the saved profiles could still load? Because I'm not risking that

[modern walrus]

saved profiles

Wait jk

my profiles stayed

but my fan thing (even tho saved to BIOS) disappeared

[sudden torrent]

My agesa version changed so some core things changed, like I was able to overclock my memory even more than before.

[modern walrus]

I really gotta do memory overclock

it's just crappy on my ASUS board because I have to reset CMOS everytime

the Aorus board resets fine

I shouldn't have installed windows 11 tho because things start acting up easily

[sudden torrent]

It makes a huge difference in games, way better frame stability and better 1% lows

[modern walrus]

I had it from 3200 16-18-18-38 to like 3400 16-19-19-42

if I remember correctly

then HWiNFO started showing crazy numbers

and I thought it was the memory OC so I went back to XMP

but it still does it

[sudden torrent]

Not bad, sounds like an OK but not great die, like c-die

[modern walrus]

wish this was for real lol

it's hynix or something

that 30,775.7Mhz core clock thooo

[sudden torrent]

Djr?
It's the system clock that threw everything off

[modern walrus]

and 9,555.1Mhz Memory clock lol

what's djr?

I reinstalled it like 3x

[sudden torrent]

A hynix memory die type

[modern walrus]

thought it was the my RGB software update

nothing

I reverted to older version

but ya HWiNFO is completely bananas & I have no idea why

[sudden torrent]

Maybe a bug with the system HPET

[modern walrus]

this .07500 offset is giving me great voltage (won't exceed 1.275) but the clocks are slightly lower

I think I ran into the same phenomena you did

bell curve

[sudden torrent]

Sounds like you found the basement under that floor

[modern walrus]

ya I'm on the fence here. keeping the slightly lower frequency with the really nice voltage is tempting I mean I'm looking at like 1.237-1.275 under CB load

[sudden torrent]

It's up to you in the end. Undervolting won't hurt it like overvolting will.

[modern walrus]

I think I'm gonna see what the .06875 does

CB scores are still blah. All core OC at 4.7 got me 23193. This lands me at 22505

meh

[sudden torrent]

The issue with the all core is that it won't boost higher than that for single core like gaming

[modern walrus]

yaa I know. I think it'll hit over 5000 with PBO

PBO is better

less exciting but better

[sudden torrent]

For gaming definitely

If you were doing some sort of real time blender render where every second mattered, the all core oc could be useful

[modern walrus]

sucks I can't offset per core on 10900K. I have to find one size fits all voltage

so core 4 ends up like 8 degrees hotter than others

[sudden torrent]

There's always that one core... And there's no way around that either, it's just physics

[modern walrus]

what's weird with the offset is CCD1 runs slightly faster than CCD2

[sudden torrent]

CCD1 is better then

[modern walrus]

as little as .3 and as much as 2mhz

[sudden torrent]

Oh well that's nothing

If it was more like 10MHz that's worth mentioning

[modern walrus]

I think I'm gonna stay with this. 1.281-1.288v & 4600mhz +/- like 3

[sudden torrent]

That'll do all right. Check your single core boosting too while you're at it.

[modern walrus]

I have it at +175... I wonder if I should redo it for +200

might not even be that difficult with 180 amps available

[sudden torrent]

I just meant run the single core CB test and watch the boost clocks

[modern walrus]

oh ya I was just thinking tho since this is my first breakthrough with OC in like weeks

might as well go for the gold

I'll run it here in a minute

kinda mediocre. 4,909-27

kinda wanting those 25mHz rn

shouldn't it max at like 5050?

might be limited by voltage offset

[sudden torrent]

My 5800X hits 5025 max

You should in theory be about 50-100 better on 5900X

[modern walrus]

should it be north of 1.406 on single core?

[sudden torrent]

Yeah single core voltage is negligible

It spreads the load out

[modern walrus]

maybe .06250 was the way to go

I dunno how much .00625 will help single core

[sudden torrent]

One way to find out

[modern walrus]

haha I'll do it now

& bump to +200

[sudden torrent]

I'm headed to bed, good luck to you. You're on the right track.

[modern walrus]

thanks slepe well

[zenith palm]

It's 1pm here i just thought you were up early ;-;

[modern walrus]

It's 8 here

am

where is it 1pm? I'm in Miami, FL

well just north in Hollywood but close enough

[zenith palm]

Ireland

[modern walrus]

Erin Go bragh

[zenith palm]

https://tenor.com/view/st-patricks-day-potatoes-ireland-irish-potato-gif-11343200

[modern walrus]

or that ya

haters gonna hate potatoes gonna potate

[lavish tundra]

boil em, mash em, put em in a stew

[zenith palm]

tfw tm5 run doesnt detect error but then windows poops so you run tm5 again and get error

[rigid trellis]

Is anyone available to help with overclocking my CPu?

@zenith palm Should I try General ?

[zenith palm]

Worth a shot

[tall pelican]

A 3700x? Enable pbo

[zenith palm]

They trying to find it in the msi bios, cant seem to find the options to tweak like +200 etc

[tall pelican]

Zen2 doesn't have it

[south sky]

zen 2 does have auto oc

fmax offset

what ever you call it

[sterile flame]

how long should i run testmem5 for

[dull ginkgo]

until it finishes

[sterile flame]

how long does the extreme test usually take to finish

the anta777 extreme 1

[dull ginkgo]

depends

like bleach's oced 2x8gb 3866c14 can do it in around 40 minutes

my 2x16 3600c16 kit does it around 3 hours

[sterile flame]

going on 54 minutes now

2x8gb 3466c16

gonna test 3600 after

after 3600 the oc options for "memory try it" go to cl 18 so i know it cant do cl 16 for those

i explictly remember 3333 not being stable a while ago so idk how 3600/3466 is stable now but

im not complaining.

[sterile flame]

should i run 3200 cl 14 14 14 14 34 or 3466/3600 16-18-18-18-36

[dull ginkgo]

you should do your own testing

but amd or intel

[sterile flame]

amd

[dull ginkgo]

3600c16 more likely to be more perf, but do testing

[sterile flame]

confirmed 3600 is not stable

[dull ginkgo]

a barely stable oc is very likely to perform worse than stock

[sterile flame]

so 3466 cl 16 18..36 or 3200 cl 14...34

[sterile flame]

running anta777 for testing

3600 is not stable at all

[dull ginkgo]

yes

bleach had an OC that was stable that passed anta777 that performed worse than 2133 jedec

just do some testing on performance

[short blade]

funny you mention me right as i look here

[dull ginkgo]

yes

[short blade]

yes you must always test performance with each change

[left blade]

Analice#6283 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[short blade]

what cpu do you have that 3600 isn't stable?

[dull ginkgo]

I don't know any specifics on anyone else's oc :p

[sterile flame]

why in the world

did my pc just tell me

a new cpu was installed

[short blade]

it's possible you can get 3600 stable if you just change some variables

[sterile flame]

3000g

[short blade]

ahh

okay nvm that's zen 1

3600 probably not gonna work

[sterile flame]

the ram is stock 2400

so like yeah, probably not

[short blade]

have you determined the IC?

[sterile flame]

IC?

[short blade]

what chips are under the heatspreader

download thaiphoon burner, it has a decent success rate of figuring that out

not 100% though

[sterile flame]

i had known at some point but i forgor so ill do that

[short blade]

different chips have different overclocking properties so it's important to know what you have before overclocking

most importantly, different chips have different safe voltage levels

some start to die above 1.35v

some can daily 1.7v if you strap a fan to it

[sterile flame]

ruh roh.

[short blade]

some can daily 1.6v without extra cooling

[sterile flame]

ive been running 1.45

[short blade]

yeah that's gonna be safe on most ICs but not all

hence why you need to figure out what yours is

i personally daily 1.52v without extra cooling

micron rev. e

[sterile flame]

extra cooling as in more fans or as in like, literally strapping a fan to the ram

[short blade]

the latter

that's usually restricted to people pushing 1.6v+ on samsung b-die

[sterile flame]

M-die

[short blade]

hynix MFR?

[sterile flame]

"mfr"?

its hynix yeah

[short blade]

yeah it's hynix mfr then

[sterile flame]

whats that mean

[dull ginkgo]

a die

[short blade]

the IC is named hynix mfr

that's all

[sterile flame]

i mean like, for the oc

[short blade]

it's pretty bottom tier

i've oced hynix mfr before

trying to remember if max safe is 1.4 or 1.45

i know i was running mine at 1.4

i really highly doubt that mfr will do 3200 with flat 14 primaries

you sure that was stable?

my kit can't do that and i daily 3800c14

i'm pretty sure only b-die can do that

[sterile flame]

i mean it did anta just fine and i used it for months without issue

granted it couldve been cl 16

im not sure

[short blade]

16 makes much more sense

[sterile flame]

i actually ran anta 3 times

[short blade]

i don't trust anta by itself

[sterile flame]

to make absolutely sure

[short blade]

i've had an oc past 9 cycles tm5 anta777, 1 hour occt avx, 1 hour occt sse, 3 hours linpack xtreme and still be unstable

[sterile flame]

also on the cpu, is it worth going from 4.0 to like, 4.025 or 4.050

[short blade]

well if you can do it might as well

[sterile flame]

then what should i do to benchmark it

what do u suggest i run the ram at

1.4 3200 cl 16?

im testing 45 cl 16 3466 rn

but from what u said i assume thats not likely to be stable

[short blade]

i'd recommend starting ram oc by setting ram speed to the highest you can boot, fclk to whatever makes that 1:1, 16-20-20-40 primaries, rest auto, 1.4 vdimm, and then running occt cpu test with avx2 instructions, variable load, extreme preset

stabilize uncore before touching ram

oh almost forgot- 1.1vsoc, 1.05 cldo vddp, vddg ccd, vddg iod to start with

[sterile flame]

stabilize what?

whats uncore

[short blade]

uncore = the parts of the cpu that are not the cores basically

the reason why i recommend starting with uncore

[sterile flame]

why set it to the highest i can boot

you mean highest i can boot with cl 16?

[short blade]

was because i got a ram oc that was not throwing ram errors

but was causing my gpu to crash due to i/o die instability

[sterile flame]

ive ran cl 16 18 18 18 36

[short blade]

took me a while to figure it out

loosen them, see if 3600 works

and see if it's performant

i can do 4000c14 with 2000fclk coupled mode but performance is bad

so i daily 3800c14

[sterile flame]

3600 died 5 mins into anta777 with 16 18 18 18 36

[short blade]

if you can get a higher fclk that's not performing poorly, it's worth loosening timings for

yeah 16-18-18-18-36 looks a bit tight for mfr

[sterile flame]

try 16-20-20-20-40?

[short blade]

i ran my mfr at 2666 12-16-16-16-35

[sterile flame]

with the other stuff u said?

[short blade]

bought a used cpu was degraded and the memory controller could not boot above 2666

[sterile flame]

that sounds hella slow

oh

[short blade]

yeah it was for a cheap flip so w/e

customer is happy

i was not cause i had to do a manual ram oc instead of setting xmp lol

xmp wouldn't boot

but yeah try the stuff i typed as a baseline

https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/master/DDR4 OC Guide.md this is where i learned almost everything

but i add stability testing uncore first

[sterile flame]

so by uncore you just mean the cpu oc right

[short blade]

no

uncore name is actually exactly what it sounds like

cpu minus cores

i.e. i/o die which handles interconnect to everything

that's why my gpu was crashing when i had unstable uncore

[sterile flame]

wait how do we know its hynix mfr

it could be one of the other ones

[short blade]

i was changing my vsoc and vddp/vddg until i got stable uncore

thaiphoon burner reported hynix m-die didn't it?

that's hynix mfr

[sterile flame]

oh right haha yeah

"Terrible ICs unable to reliably attain even the highest standard of the base JEDEC Specification."

:(

[short blade]

if nothing else, the fact that you've been running it at 1.45 means it's not one of the dies that has negative scaling above 1.35v

don't worry i've had much worse than hynix mfr

my laptop has samsung a-die sodimms

negative scaling above 1.25v

jedec won't even boot at 1.35v

[sterile flame]

offies

[short blade]

i ended up tightening it from 2933 21-21-21-47 @ 1.2v to 2933 17-19-19-39 @ 1.25v

best i could do

[sterile flame]

where do i find this value in bios

[short blade]

uncore is a couple variables

like i said

start by trying 1.1 vsoc, 1.05 cldo vddp and vddg ccd/iod

[sterile flame]

ight

[short blade]

numbers might be different on zen 1

[sterile flame]

its under cpu or ram?

[short blade]

i've only done ram oc on zen 2, zen 3, and intel

varies by bios

[dull ginkgo]

also, isn't 3000g zen+?

[short blade]

nope

3200g/3400g are zen+, 3000g is zen 1

amd is kind of terrible with this

[dull ginkgo]

wikichips being high

[short blade]

i can only think of one intel cpu that doesn't have a starting number matching the architecture

8809G - kaby lake

amd cpus are kind of all over the place

with 5500U and 5700U being zen 2

laptops as a whole before 5000 as well

apus being weird

it's just a big mess

[dull ginkgo]

ye

[short blade]

TPU lists 3000G as zen 1

also it's 14nm node

zen+ should be 12nm

[sterile flame]

vddp and cpu vddp are different values

change both?

[short blade]

uhh

can i see a picture

[tall pelican]

the just "vddp" is what you want for fclk shenanigans

[sterile flame]

ok thanks

[short blade]

yup

[sterile flame]

had to make a dedicated windows drive for this

boots 3666 16 20 20 20 20 40 @short blade

anything higher and it starts restart looping and cutting itself off

[short blade]

that's impressive

now see if it's stable

if it passes the cpu test in the configuration i said

i'd run anta777 extreme1 3 cycles and then occt sse 1 hr

if those all pass then you have your baseline and can start tightening timings from there

i wonder if thaiphoon misread your die, maybe it's hynix cjr/djr

mfr doing 3666c16 is really surprising

thaiphoon is not 100% accurate

[sterile flame]

maybe i just have the godliest mfr in the world

[short blade]

so possible that you have something else

lol maybe

[sterile flame]

how long do i run the occt extreme preset avx2 for

[short blade]

1hr

[sterile flame]

alr

[short blade]

make sure you select variable load

[sterile flame]

what should i pick for threads

so,
Data set: large
Mode: Extreme
load: variable
start at cycle: 1
IS: avx2
threads: ?

[short blade]

auto

should default to all 4

looks good

[sterile flame]

so the same test but sse instead of avx2?

[short blade]

ah for occt sse i'm referring to the memory test

memory test, sse instructions, leave everything else auto

[sterile flame]

i dont remember seeing a memory test option in occt

ig i wasnt looking hard enough

[short blade]

third tab

with cpu test being the first

[sterile flame]

the one that has gpu?

[dull ginkgo]

different versions of occt different interface

which version you on?

[sterile flame]

9.0.2

3666 was infact, not stable

test just died

[short blade]

bump it down to 3600 and try again

[sterile flame]

p sure that'll die too cause it died early in anta

[short blade]

worth a shot now that you set uncore voltages manually

let's face it you wouldn't be doing manual ram oc if you valued your time

[dull ginkgo]

for 9.0.2, should look like this

[short blade]

you beat me to it

lol

[sterile flame]

i dont remember seeing memory but ig im blind lmfao

[dull ginkgo]

I had 8.0.1 and had to update occt lol

[short blade]

bro i had 8.0.2

lmao

i have a newer 9.0.2 install on my test bench usb

[dull ginkgo]

crap my shortcut still gives me 8.0.1 even after I downloaded 9.0.2
sad

[short blade]

but haven't had a reason to test my personal rig in a long time

[dull ginkgo]

:(

[short blade]

lol nice

[sterile flame]

looks like u might be right its getting further

[short blade]

hope it works

[sterile flame]

the test stopped

but the system didnt crash like usual

"00:06:30 CPU - Crashed"

[modern walrus]

If it makes you feel any better, when I first downloaded OCCT in early May, I was using 4.4.1 cuz I didn't know any better

[dull ginkgo]

check if you got a whea error maybe?

[sterile flame]

a wha

[dull ginkgo]

go into event viewer

[sterile flame]

the ram should be set to 1 cr right

[dull ginkgo]

eh, 1t might work, might need 2t

[short blade]

you can try 2t

[dull ginkgo]

could do gdm but eh

2t is worth a try

[short blade]

1t gdm is usually good enough for stability

2t diminishes performance latency-wise but if it helps you stabilize a higher fclk it's still worth it

[sterile flame]

what should i look for in occt

i mean

event viewer

[dull ginkgo]

should prob make a filter for whea logger

[modern walrus]

damn I kinda wanna join the RAM oc party but with windows 11 already showing crazy numbers on HWiNFO I dunno how high my chance of success is. The alternative is trying to do it on the 5900x but even raising it 33mhz lead me to clear CMOS land & doing that constantly is a pain

[dull ginkgo]

like dis

(right click on custom views folder looking thing, create custom view)

[modern walrus]

can RAM OC increase my 5900x CB score? lol

[short blade]

no

cinebench doesn't care about ram speed

[modern walrus]

3dmark?

[short blade]

yes absolutely

[modern walrus]

well now we're talkin

[short blade]

the same 3070 saw 20% higher graphics score with 3733c14 vs 2666c12

from 12.3k to 15.3k

same GPU settings

[sterile flame]

comes up with nothing

[dull ginkgo]

aight, no whea errors then

[sterile flame]

maybe just rerun the test?

[short blade]

ram oc is the most important oc for real performance

[dull ginkgo]

if something crashed according to the test, should do something to try and make it more stable, one way is to enable gdm in bios, or go 2t for cr if you want

or could loosen timings or smth

[short blade]

you can try messing with uncore voltages again or trying 2t

[sterile flame]

gdm?

[short blade]

or 1t with gear down mode on if you currently have it off

[sterile flame]

where do i find gear down mode

[dull ginkgo]

should be alongside other memory settings

[short blade]

i started at 1.1vsoc with 1.05 other stuff but actually landed on 1.025 vsoc with 0.975 other stuff

[modern walrus]

I still don't think I'll get any movement at all on my 3800mhz 18-22-22-48 64gb without dropping from 1T to 2T

[short blade]

yeah it'll be somewhere around there

[short blade]

possible you could drop it to c16 with more voltage

[dull ginkgo]

gdm is like a 1.5t cr

[short blade]

with gdm on

depends on what ICs you have really

i've seen people daily 64gb 3800c14

[modern walrus]

It's hynix or whatever tho

I don't think it's great dies

[dull ginkgo]

Stronk imc

[modern walrus]

sorry 22-22-42

I dunno where I got 48

[dull ginkgo]

Did you check 042 code or whatever it's called?

[modern walrus]

I think that was with the 32gb set

[short blade]

well

64gb 3800c18 xmp bin

could be hynix djr or something

which is a pretty decent die

should be able to do 3800c16 on cjr/djr

[sterile flame]

wait i have Soc/Uncore oc mode and it was disabled

[short blade]

it should be automatically enabled as soon as you manually set any uncore voltages

but if not you can try enabling it

[modern walrus]

I have two so I confuse everyone. Both are G.Skill, both are Hynix, one set is 64gb, etc (from picture) & it's with the 5900x & the other is 3200 16-18-18-38 on the 10900K

& yes I'm an idiot and wasted too much money building computers cuz it was fun & I missed building stuff

[short blade]

lol

you talking to someone that has like 6 pcs sitting around at home rn

i hear you

[modern walrus]

tbh I should probably try to sell the 10900K computer but I'll probably get like 60% of what I paid for it. Plus I've taken the liberty of cutting some holes & splicing a few wires so it's not exactly "like new"

[short blade]

i'm going to sell the rig i'm using right now in one piece

my new rig is gonna be ready to become my main rig tomorrow

[sterile flame]

cant tear gear down mode on

its under a drop down i cant access

[short blade]

do you have cr at 1t or 2t

[modern walrus]

lol I'm sitting next to the 5900x, 10900K, two monitors (two more arrive 8/4--stooookeddd), a SurfaceGo2, a SurfaceBook3 15", an old HP laptop, & an old ROG laptop

[short blade]

gdm is only available with cr 1t

[modern walrus]

I don't even konw what to do with all this suff

stuff

[sterile flame]

it was at auto but it autos to 1

[sterile flame]

big spender

[modern walrus]

but once I get the MSI board I replaced with the AORUS on the 10900K RMAed I wanna build another one because I have an AIO, tons of fans, the motherboard, & a 750w power supply just begging to destroy my wallet

[sterile flame]

bigger spender

[short blade]

the hardware i have lying at home right now-
5600x + 3733c14 + 3070 + 1tb gen3 full build
5800x + 3800c14 + 3080 + 1tb gen4 + 2tb gen3 full build
xeon e3-1241v3 + 1600c10 + no gpu + 500gb sata full build minus case
delidded i7-4770K + 2133c11 + no gpu + 500gb sata full build minus case
i7-10750H + 2933c17 + 3070M + 512gb gen3 laptop

also just sold a build with i7-8700K + 2666c12 + 3070 + 1tb gen3

someone stop me from buying more lol

[sterile flame]

jesus

[modern walrus]

I used to build electrical services & power big machines 5 days a week. I miss building stuff

[short blade]

i bought the 4770K and 8700K specifically so i could try delidding

[sterile flame]

if i had that kind of money id probably have an almost identical build, i dont like having more than i need

[short blade]

here's the thing

i'm not rich

i fund all my builds by selling them lol

[modern walrus]

neither am I