#overclocking

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modern walrus
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?

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I've been at it awhile

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a reallllly long facking time

sudden torrent
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Little by little is good. If +175 ends up being optimal, going to +150 will miss those gains.

modern walrus
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Your CPU is a 5900x?

sudden torrent
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5800X but same concept

modern walrus
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ya true

sudden torrent
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More cores just means more tweaks to make in CO 🥲

modern walrus
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I mean I was looking at forums & really north of 22000 aint too bad for this chip

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people were all excited at 21500+

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in CB I mean

sudden torrent
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I figured

modern walrus
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But then again I've heard claims of all core 50 so who knows

sudden torrent
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22k gets you into the top 50 scores for a 12 core CPU on HWBot

sudden torrent
modern walrus
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PBO will do that?

sudden torrent
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Oh yeah, PBO will boost as long as the limits aren't hit. If you're running at a negative temp and power delivery is still good, it'll just keep going until it crashes.

modern walrus
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hmm strange

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bro wth

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Why does it show Core 0 at 6,151.3mHz?

sudden torrent
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WTF

modern walrus
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Max

sudden torrent
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That's the effective clock too, must be a bug

modern walrus
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Something ain't right

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bruh

sudden torrent
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Besides that bug everything else lines up to the 25 less offset

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I guess +200 is good

modern walrus
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You think I've reached the limits?

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Problem is I increase TDC/EDC

sudden torrent
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You're probably pretty close, I'm looking at other HWBot subs and 4.6 all core is really good, almost record breaking for that CPU.

modern walrus
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& it won't get much higher (if it does at all anyway)

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but it'll raise voltage

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& I don't wanna be north of 1.300

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under load I mean

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like raising TDC/EDC only increases voltage & heat

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nothing else

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useless

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I guess it's been a good night tho. I mean 6.1gHz single-core, 17 million on CB R23

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lol

sudden torrent
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I certainly couldn't ask for more than that lol

modern walrus
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Too bad that probably just means something is messed up

sudden torrent
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I would love for my core to hit 6GHz

modern walrus
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I don't know how else to get these numbers up at this point

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unless I just say to heck with caring if I'm over 1.3v

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which is a bad idea

sudden torrent
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You could do that to put in a submission for clock speed, then drop it for daily use. You could get the Newegg team a few points with that, just sayin.

modern walrus
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how do I do that?

sudden torrent
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Sign up for an account, and you can pick the Wegg team on signup

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Then you can just use benchmate to automate everything from validating entries to downloading various software for benching

modern walrus
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ok crap I signed in with Google

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Let me see if I can find where to add it

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what's "extreme cooled submissions?"

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N2, etc?

sudden torrent
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Yeah that's liquid nitrogen and helium

modern walrus
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okay joining Wegg

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how do I like...submit stuff?

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I guess I've signed up before because I have 11 achievements lol

sudden torrent
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Each category has its own guidelines for submitting. Many things can be automated with benchmate. You can read the rules for each category.

modern walrus
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wait I'm not sure now I'm wrong

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okay I'll check it out

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wow CB R23 world record is 113,566. I destroyed that lmao

sudden torrent
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And that's with way more cpu cores too

modern walrus
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jeez I'm barely over 22k 113k? good lord

sudden torrent
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Pretty sure that's a 32 core threadripper hitting 100k+

modern walrus
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Has to be

sudden torrent
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One fun thing to remember is that you don't need to be stable to submit, just stable enough to pass the test and take a Screenshot. Some things don't even have a test, like frequency records.

modern walrus
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hmm I wonder if my 10900K is better for that then haha

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So it's just screenshots? seems easy to manipulate lol

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I'd rather just do the auto-submit ones

sudden torrent
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That's what benchmate is for, and the screenshots have to include other info so if something doesn't add up you'll get flagged.

modern walrus
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tight. What should I try first. What's GPUPI?

sudden torrent
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Calculating pi to a certain number of digits, optionally using gpu to accelerate the calculation.

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Hence, gpu pi

modern walrus
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I'm doing R23 rn

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does it rank by CPU?

sudden torrent
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Make sure to include your cpu-z info like it says in rules

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It ranks by core count

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8 core vs 8 core, etc

modern walrus
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oh it doesn't automatically submit or something?

sudden torrent
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It'll do most of the work but cpu-z is mostly just extra insurance against being flagged

modern walrus
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okay it's open rn

sudden torrent
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When you go to submit it'll bring up the page with basic details filled and you can add info like memory speed, motherboard, etc

modern walrus
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You sure I'm not gonna like bring down the team average or something? lol

sudden torrent
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Not possible

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If it was then I would have done it lol

modern walrus
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I'm getting like 4522mHz

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meh

sudden torrent
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You changed back to +200?

modern walrus
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oh crap I forgot to fix that

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ooops

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I'll fix it after this bench

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rn it's looking like I'm gonna come in over 22215 so I'm gonna let it ride

sudden torrent
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No harm in submitting to see what it looks like before you crank it up

modern walrus
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ya true. Gotta get a baseline

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Before when I had no idea you were supposed to use PBO, I got 23193 with 47 all core

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I was trying to overclock like I did on the 10900K

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Then everyone is like "you're stupid you gotta use PBO"

sudden torrent
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Not that it's stupid, it's just really bad for the chip

modern walrus
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I think the system crashed right after that but it's still logged haha

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I had it on set core voltage

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I don't recall what tho

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I think I saved the profile

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might be in BIOS still

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Probably north of 1.3 tho

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before I was told that's too high

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core voltage is 1.296 rn with the 4505gHz

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Is CPU-Z as accurate as HWiNFO SW whatever

sudden torrent
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4.7 GHz would get you around 5th for your processor on the leaderboard

modern walrus
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damn I'm putting up 1.312v now

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no bueno

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1 minute left

sudden torrent
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You can run it at that temporarily to submit the frequency

modern walrus
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Why is PBO allowing this high voltage?

sudden torrent
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It allows it in short bursts. It's sustained load at too-high voltage that degrades.

modern walrus
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22206 darn it

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But if I mess with TDC/EDC/PPT PBO will exceed safe voltages?

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it says this result cannot be saved

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wtf

sudden torrent
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The processor safeties will be disabled if you adjust either LLC (load line calibration) or set a static voltage

modern walrus
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I didn't mess with those

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I did for all core but not this

sudden torrent
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Just for reference

modern walrus
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heck. I read this before

sudden torrent
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22206 would put you at #48 on the rankings for 12 core processors

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And would also beat our team best

modern walrus
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well heck I cannot submit

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I'm running it agasin

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it's keeping it at steady 1.312v

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this worries me

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22739 would be pimpin

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Whoa I hope that submits

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Do I need to run the entire thing if it shows there already??

sudden torrent
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It needs to complete if that's what you mean. It needs to show the rendered scene.

modern walrus
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oh got it

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it'll probably come in lower than that but if it holds that's fantastic

sudden torrent
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22739 would place you at #46

modern walrus
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bro wth

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22682

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but I no longer have option to submit

sudden torrent
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Did you save the result (F6) so it uploads the screenshot?

modern walrus
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I'm supposed to do that while it's running/

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because about halfway through the option disappeared

sudden torrent
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Just after it completes, unless it detected some issue with the system clock. That could also explain the odd behavior like abnormal clock speed and score. Maybe a bios update is in order, or a new cmos battery?

modern walrus
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The motherboard is less than like

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5 months old...?

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& I'm pretty sure BIOS is up to date

sudden torrent
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I've had to replace the battery off the shelf before

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Bios can be updated every month on some boards

modern walrus
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hmm maybe

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this is the first time I've had issues

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but I've also been playing with settings all night

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gonna check for BIOS update then restart at elast

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least

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there's a newer version but it's a beta

sudden torrent
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Up to you on that one then

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Meanwhile you inspired me to run ycruncher and got a pretty decent score, should get us a few points

modern walrus
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it has "update AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI"

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Do I want whatever that is enough to run beta BIOS?

sudden torrent
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Wait WHAT

modern walrus
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?

sudden torrent
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I think that's the update that helps you get higher fclk

sudden torrent
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Yeah, but what that means is you can run it faster and overclock your memory more

modern walrus
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I left it at XMP

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because any increase caused instability like crazy with this RAM

sterile flame
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what speed/timing

modern walrus
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It's 3800 but it's like 18

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CAS

sudden torrent
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You need to do more than just change speed

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3800 is probably the max that's stable for your fclk

modern walrus
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I can change 1T to 2T

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then maybe tighten timings

sterile flame
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tighten them

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if you can't, try tightening at 3733 or 3600

modern walrus
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but my research made me think 1T was better

sudden torrent
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Nah command rate can be bad, tightening is good. C16 should be easy. C14 if you have epic RAM.

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Best left at 1T command rate

modern walrus
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I'd have to drop clock speed for sure

sudden torrent
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No just increase voltage

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What memory kit?

modern walrus
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I upped it to 1.45

sterile flame
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what die

modern walrus
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G.Skill Trident Z Neo

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uh hold up

sudden torrent
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G.skill has a version number on the memory that tells you what die is on it

sterile flame
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oh

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its 32gb sticks

modern walrus
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yes

sterile flame
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yea i doubt you can get anything better than c16

modern walrus
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it's c18 out of box

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I tried to drop it before & had to reset CMOS everytime lol

sudden torrent
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It could be b-die, you'd need the version number on the white sticker to be sure

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If it's b-die then you got an epic kit

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Come on 4.31 🎲

sterile flame
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have fun

modern walrus
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okay I dropped to +175. Let's see if I can submit some heckin results

sudden torrent
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Dang Jan 2021 manufacture date, could be one of the newer dies

sterile flame
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its 18-22-22 with 1.4 base

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no shot its bdie

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if it was 2x16 maybe

sudden torrent
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I figured it was but I've seen rev.e with similar

sterile flame
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crucial just sucks at factory timings

sudden torrent
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Yeah good point, the 2x32 is a giveaway

sterile flame
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most rev.e should easily do 5000c18 but they have like a c22 kit or sum at 5100

modern walrus
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I tried upping it by like 66mHz & it crashed CMOS fun time

sterile flame
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granted, you need specific aorus or modified boards for that 5000c18

sterile flame
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like before this

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still worth a shot for c16

sudden torrent
modern walrus
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wtf it's showing voltage at 1.44+

sudden torrent
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I'm running mine at 1.52v with no modifications, and it's RGB also

modern walrus
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I mean CPU

sudden torrent
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Is it still on auto? That's fine in bios

modern walrus
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no on CB! lol

sudden torrent
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Oh what, that's not good

modern walrus
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ya I shut down

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Gonna figure this crap out

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man 1.7v??

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That's a lot lmao

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Should I bump it to 1.5?

sudden torrent
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Yep, people do 1.7v on b-die for benching

sterile flame
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you need a fan like right over it though for 1.7 so just do 1.5 for now

sudden torrent
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1.5v should be safe and help tighten the timings

south sky
south sky
sudden torrent
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I've seen that but that's typically on LN2 right?

modern walrus
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What about these? lol

south sky
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2.2v can be done ambient

modern walrus
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2.2?? lol

south sky
modern walrus
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I have two sets

sudden torrent
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I was about to say lol

modern walrus
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one for 10900K (most recent--16gbx2) & one for 5900x (32gbx2)

sterile flame
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oh 2x16

south sky
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it'll do better then that

sterile flame
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meant guaranteed

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with tweaking def better

modern walrus
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rn it's at 3400 16-19-19-36

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really? I'm leaving this much on the table rn?

sudden torrent
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Double checked the 042 code and yeah that 3800 kit is MJR. Should scale up to 1.45v, maybe higher but that's as far as they bin them.

modern walrus
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I think I have it at 1.45 already

sudden torrent
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I bet you can drop cas to 16 then, no issues.

modern walrus
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It kept crashing when I tried that I think

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CMOS CMOS CMOS

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no fun

sudden torrent
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Hmm, setting it to 1.45v in bios means it'll get less than that once under load. You can try going a little higher to compensate.

south sky
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MJR is basically big CJR, so it's big garbage

modern walrus
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It says SK Hynix on CPU-Z

south sky
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VDIMM vrms are weird

sudden torrent
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Well that's how it works on mine 🤷‍♂️

south sky
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did you test it with a DMM?

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The sensors aren't reliable at all

sudden torrent
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I suppose I could probe it but, eh.

modern walrus
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you actually put a multimeter on your RAM like that?

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btw what do you do with Scalar? I left it on Auto

sudden torrent
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Just the slot

south sky
sudden torrent
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Leave scalar on auto, that's another one that can disable protections

south sky
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afk xn means n times more degradation

south sky
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Just makes the chip value it's own life less

modern walrus
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lol

sudden torrent
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I was told otherwise, but I know how knowledgeable you are

south sky
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It's like the voltage slider on modern nvidia

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more = faster deg

modern walrus
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oh so I shuoldn't have that maxed out on my video card?

south sky
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Well it makes it value it's life less, the only stuff I've seen on that was according to Nvidia, and they claimed maxed was 1 year whilst nothing was 5 years iirc

modern walrus
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okay cool voltage is 1.288 under load now

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just by dialing back EDC & TDC by 2 amps

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go figure

south sky
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I'm pretty sure 10x scalar vs 1x is around 50mv more voltage under load

modern walrus
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1.256 under load on CB rn

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maybe I should hit it up

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22617

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submitting

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it'll let you submit a single render?

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because the newer CB version has this awful minimum test duration thing I hate

sudden torrent
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I got Wegg another 10 points from my ycruncher sub, I think I can do better but I'm calling it a night.
You don't need to enable that duration

modern walrus
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lol so 30 second tests count?

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wow

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I might load that all core 47 OC & maybe bump to 48 haha

sudden torrent
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It needs to be one full pass, so if it finishes in 30 seconds great

modern walrus
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how many points will 22617 get? lol

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uh now I get to figure out how to log in but with a gmail account

sudden torrent
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Open up hwbot.org and it'll tell you what your username is, and you can always tell it to "update" your password from the account screen.

modern walrus
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copy that

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wants old password tho... heck

sudden torrent
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Try your email password?

modern walrus
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I'm gonna log out then do forgot password I guess

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okay email sent

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heckin mission

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okay finally

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wait one more thing

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How do I find out my overall ranking??

sudden torrent
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Click your score

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It'll be on the left

modern walrus
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46th

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out of 110 meh

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I'm 36th "in team"

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so out of all the people on Wegg using 5900x then?

sudden torrent
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That doesn't mean you're average, that means you're average on an overclocking website where people have liquid nitrogen tanks delivered weekly

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That's global ranking

modern walrus
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oh I'll sleep alright knowing that

short blade
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and you can turn it off

short blade
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well i think i just made the ram frequency world record

tall pelican
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4.0.4 doesnt work on z370?

proven canopy
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hdr screenshot 🤮

short blade
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it just failed to load this one time

modern walrus
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Thank you

calm vector
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guys do you think i could overclock my pc

zenith palm
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If you don't mind spending a bit of time it's worth it, well your graphics card anyway, guessing the specs in your name are right you cant overclock your cpu

clever epoch
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Even with a locked Intel CPU, Z series motherboards allow setting increased power limits, no? That'll get you 90% of the performance of an overclock anyways

short blade
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yeah

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with i7-11700 and 3060 you'll be gpu bound in most situations so you should see nice benefit from ocing your gpu

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and gpu is the easiest to oc

olive onyx
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I wanna overclock my 2400mhz ram to 3200mhz Any timings or volts age suggestions?

zenith palm
olive onyx
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Hyperx 2400mhz ram @zenith palm

zenith palm
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@olive onyx is there a sticker on the ram kit

olive onyx
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There is

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@zenith palm

zenith palm
olive onyx
zenith palm
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Ehhh hmmm 1 sec

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That code doesn't follow the guides breakdown 🤔

zenith palm
# olive onyx

Try just change frequency to 2666mhz without changing from xmp timings and see if it boots

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Then if it boots download test mem5 and run the extreme anta config @olive onyx

dull ginkgo
zenith palm
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Start of the sticker is the same

dull ginkgo
zenith palm
dull ginkgo
# zenith palm

Overclocking wiki just gives up on Kingston and just says what Kingston kits can be lol

modern walrus
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I think I need to start from square one here. When you're doing PBO, is the first step to have all offset magnitudes at 0 then start at like 120/120/whatever (EDC & TDC should be limited by their own numbers, not PPT) & increase TDC/EDC by 10 amps respectively until benchmarking (CB R23 or the like) causes your temps to reach 80-85 or something then do magnitude offsets?

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because what I've noticed (having done offsets before messing with TDC/EDC like a clown) is when you increase TDC/EDC there is only a marginal increase in core performance but an accompanying increase in voltage & heat

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i.e. increasing TDC/EDC by only 1 or 2 amps will result in like 33mHz increase on core performance but will bump voltage under load form like 1.263 to 1.281

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also what at which step in the process should increasing PBO max take place? Should I start at +200, +100, or +0?

modern walrus
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with 120 for both EDC & TDC at +200 mhz, PBO keeps voltage between 1.281-1.300 under load. Max temp 78.5. That seems too high

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the voltage I mean

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should I even care what CB says for voltage? Prime95 keeps it at even 1.114 lol

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maybe I'll just put motherboard & stop messing with these

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motherboard limits give you tdc 120 edc 190. Voltage is the same, hovering around 1.281-1.300 (I guess PBO keeps load voltage less than or equal to 1.300 always) but the resulting effective clocks are way worse 120/190 than 120/120

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4,376 v. 4,46x

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Why? I have no clue whatsoever

clever epoch
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First thing should be to determine power limit. Then TDC, then EDC, then curve optimizer, then boost frequency

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If PBO is running 1.3V for R23, but properly drops it to <1.2V for P95, you should be fine

modern walrus
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How do I determine power limit?

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put no limits & see where it gets hot right?

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i.e. >90?

clever epoch
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Yeah, increase limits to high levels and run prime95. See how much wattage the processor pulls when it throttles. Then you set your PPT like 10 watts below that

steel zephyr
modern walrus
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wow that's impressive

zenith palm
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Nice

sterile flame
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so i oc succesefully with ryzen master but for sum reason my ram went down in frequency

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like to base

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which no bueno for ryzen cpu.... any help

zenith palm
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@sterile flame just use the bios, doing overclocking in windows through software is finicky

brave shell
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any advice, everytime i try to get my ram to its 3600 speed it bricks my computer with my 5900x

zenith palm
brave shell
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setting it to 3600 and it’s gskill 2x 16 gb ram kits 3600 speed cl16 @zenith palm

zenith palm
brave shell
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i did, it’s works at 3200 not 3600

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@zenith palm

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it is a 3600 kit

zenith palm
brave shell
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i did not buy the wrong kit, it literally says on box,

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it just won’t overclock to 3600 lol

zenith palm
brave shell
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can i send pic

zenith palm
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yes

brave shell
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highest i’ve got with it rebooting

zenith palm
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dont touch anything else

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just enable profile 2 xmp

brave shell
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understood profile two at 3600

zenith palm
left bladeBOT
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Kmars180#1811 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

brave shell
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thank you, i’ve been messing around all day trying to get it unstuck at 3600 kept having to reset that ram battery thingy

zenith palm
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np lol

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if that doesnt work, clear cmos again (battery thing) then just do xmp, nothing else

brave shell
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okay yep and do you happen to know how to change the color of skill memory lol

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g. skill

zenith palm
# brave shell g. skill

ehh that should also be in the rgb section of your bios i think? idk i dont touch rgb with a 10 foot floor because it can be a pain lol

dark ferry
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Either download the Gskill desktop app to control the RGB or it's also compatible with several other lighting apps from other brands so that you can sync the lighting.

brave shell
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i tried with msi and it won’t seem to work

dull ginkgo
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Mystic lights worked with my Trident z neo last I tried

modern walrus
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the g.skill app & mystic light do not get along in my experience. I ended up with half the lights out on one stick

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with MSI z490 Gaming Carbon Wifi

mint mountain
mint mountain
modern walrus
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I went the opposite route and made sure only MSI controls it

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Mystic light isn't half bad. I kinda miss it compared to Armourycrate. Aorus has decent RGB tho

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Anyone with a 5900x actually get PBO to do all core over 46?

mint mountain
modern walrus
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The like moving rainbow?

dark ferry
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Not exactly. Default starts out as moving rainbow but eventually they all go out of sync. Almost seems on purpose. Ends up looking like colored rain dripping down glass.

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Personally I use the gskill app and rgb fusion with no issue.

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Because unfortunately rgb fusion doesn't have an option for the rainbow effect, only default.

short blade
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do any timings scale with vddp/vddg/vsoc specifically? if so which?

lavish tundra
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@finite frigate Im 15th on RX570 leaderboards

zenith palm
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Nice

lavish tundra
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technically 19th but first 4 cheated

faint tangle
clever epoch
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Probably using "multi-gpu" setup where they used the more powerful GPU to run the benchmark but submitted as the weaker one

zenith palm
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Yep

lavish tundra
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Use a 2080ti and an rx570 in the same rig and get a 10k score on an rx570

rigid trellis
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How hard is it to overclock the 3060ti?

zenith palm
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Not at all, msi afterburner, power slider all the way to the right, increase clock in 25s, test using 3d mark demo on steam(timespy) until it crashes, then dial back, then do mem in 15mhz increments until crash then dial back 15mhz, but start off with +100 core and +850 mem and start from there

finite frigate
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remember they report effective not actual clock

zenith palm
finite frigate
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But 15mhz is like 3mhz effective

zenith palm
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Wait what

finite frigate
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Divide by 4 and that’s effective clock

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*actual

zenith palm
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What's the point in that lol

finite frigate
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Marketing

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So they can say like 6400mhz memory and stuff

zenith palm
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Ughhh

finite frigate
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+100 is only 25mhz so

zenith palm
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Sad

sudden torrent
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QDR memory is the reason, instead of DDR which advertises the same way. That "4000 MHz" stick of memory is actually 2000 MHz.

zenith palm
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Wacky

tall pelican
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X is just micron's trademark

sudden torrent
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No idea why, but it's QDR. It has been since GDDR5.

zenith palm
zenith palm
clever epoch
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Branding probably. It would be strange/confusing to normies if it went from GDDR4 to QDR.
Bigger number better

wheat lintel
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Is it better to OC amd gpus is the Radeon software or afterburner?

tall pelican
#

depends on the gpu

sudden torrent
#

If you don't mess with voltage afterburner is fine usually

tall pelican
#

afterburner doesnt know how to work with rdna2

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min/max slider doesnt exist in AB

wheat lintel
#

It’s a 6800xt

#

I know afterburner fairly well since that’s what I used with Nvidia cards but I’m not sure with AMD

lavish tundra
wheat lintel
#

Ahh ok thanks

#

Could you help me out with it tomorrow if you have a chance?

short blade
#

biggest problem with radeon software is that sometimes it just decides to not load your desired core voltages

orchid flame
#

Not G5 iirc

orchid flame
#

GDDR5X was literally a JEDEC spec

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Oh yeah

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DDR6 is getting WCK :)))))))

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So now all the pieces of garbage who talk about 1t can run 1t at 8:1 WCK:CK

orchid flame
zenith palm
orchid flame
#

No

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It’s the rate at which PHY to Module is sent

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So the ram can be operating at CK 1600mhz for example

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And use that for all of its command logic

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But the clock used to generate data will be at a different ratio

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In 4:1 WCK:CK, ram could be at 1600mhz with WCK 6400mhz
And thus get 12.8Gbps

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Of course the command logic would be worse so you’d get nowhere near that

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But you could run much much higher frequencies

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This change would allow logic to stop being the issue with high clocking memory by offloading logic to the slower CK

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All this means is that your “1t” at 4:1 DDR6-12800 is only at CK 1600mhx

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So effectively 4T if it was a true 6400mhz CK

zenith palm
wheat lintel
#

@lavish tundra Could you help me out with this? Im not too sure about OCing in radeon software

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Hell im not that well versed in gpu OCIng in the first place

wheat lintel
#

Yeah definitely

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thanks

tall pelican
#

Find max clock that's stable, set min to 100 below it, check if that's stable, lower min if unstable

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Raise power limit to as much as you can cool

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Set mem to fast timings, raise clock until performance regressions or 2150

tall pelican
#

Because that's the max you can set for memory clock?

lavish tundra
#

but yeah @wheat lintel fitz is more knowledgeable than I am and what he said is what I recommend as well.

lavish tundra
#

or all

tall pelican
#

On rdna2

lavish tundra
#

Oh I see

wheat lintel
#

Are there any downsides to setting it to 2150?

#

Also what intervals should i do for finding a max clock thats stable?

wheat lintel
#

and what should i use to test if the gpu is stable?

#

3dmark?

lavish tundra
#

I use heaven benchmark

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allows you to edit on the fly

wheat lintel
#

ahh ok ill just use superposition then since i have it installed

lavish tundra
#

I still recommend heaven tbh

wheat lintel
#

whats the difference?

lavish tundra
#

I know for a fact heaven stresses mem and core

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IDK about superposition

wheat lintel
#

Do I need to run heaven for the full time?

lavish tundra
#

yes

wheat lintel
#

What would be considered a good OC for a 6800xt?

clever epoch
#

running into the clock limit 😛

wheat lintel
#

I’m getting about 2.6 Ghz

short blade
#

MPT it and crank 3ghz rooDevil

wheat lintel
#

MPT?

clever epoch
#

more power tool

#

I don't think 6800XT clock limit can be bypassed with MPT

tall pelican
#

no clock limit can be bypassed

orchid flame
#

Imagine not going higher

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Smh my head

tall pelican
#

imagine being limited to 2ghz core clocks, with smol $

wheat lintel
#

How would I go about getting even higher than 2.6 Ghz on my 6800xt? Rn that’s the highest I can get

#

And how would I use MPT?

#

Is it a program I download or what

tall pelican
#

MorePowerTool, it lets you remove the power limit if you can cool it

#

if you're getting 2.6 set in drivers, that's the max you'll get

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if under load, you have like 2.7 set and you're only at 2.6, then MPT will help

wheat lintel
#

I have 2.6 max set and that’s as high as it will go

tall pelican
#

then that's your max

wheat lintel
#

So should I give MPT a shot?

#

And will a 750watt PSU be fine for the 6800xt and 3700x?

tall pelican
#

if you're air cooling, it'll be fine

wheat lintel
clever epoch
#

I thought 6800XT limit was 2.8?

tall pelican
#

Im understanding it at 2.6 is max stable

clever epoch
#

ah, ye

modern walrus
#

How does one overclock a monitor?

faint tangle
#

If so nvidia control panel I belive its called

wheat lintel
wheat lintel
#

Y’all proud of me? kekw

proven canopy
#

Is that in leaderboard mode

wheat lintel
#

Wdym

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That’s 3dmark timespy

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Well the results from it

proven canopy
wheat lintel
#

It’s on score explorer

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Nvm it was on leaderboard

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Wait nvm when it’s on leaderboard I’m 10th

proven canopy
#

Yeah, always use leaderboard mode

wheat lintel
#

I’ll definitely keep that noted

#

I like 10th over 47th haha

proven canopy
#

Should bench the card in firestrike/extreme and see how you score

wheat lintel
#

Yeah I will once I get around to buying them

#

Does fire strike take into account cpu?

proven canopy
#

It does yeah, but big navi dominates FS in general

tall pelican
#

its also super cpu bound until 4k firestrike

#

5800x + reve is faster than 10900kf + bdie too LeoKek

wheat lintel
#

Ooh I like that lol

#

I noticed time spy is also really cpu bound. When I ran it for the first time with the gpu OCed to 2.6 Ghz and 2150 mem with the cpu stock it only got a score of like 14k

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I brought up the cpu from stock to 4.4 gHz and it brought it to 17k

tall pelican
#

yeah, not even just that

#

gpu score is down ~5k points on the 10900kf

wheat lintel
#

How do I submit this result to hwbot?

#

Like I see the button on the website page of the result but clicking it just reloads the page

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My hwbot account is linked

tall pelican
#

are you logged into hwbot?

wheat lintel
#

Yep I am

sudden torrent
zenith palm
wheat lintel
#

One guy has like 30 different results in the top 50

zenith palm
#

I see

prisma arch
#

undervolt 5800x
before i updated my bios i got 4.625 ghz@1.25 volts

sudden torrent
#

I have a small negative offset on my voltage, it helps

clever epoch
#

Did you set the same LLC settings?

storm wedge
#

am intrested on getting higher refresh rates on my screen ,is possible to overclock my laptop's display

barren ridge
#

yes

#

quite easy actually, just depends on luck

short blade
#

overclocking display is only worth if you're at 60-75hz

modern walrus
modern walrus
short blade
#

😳

#

see if you can oc to 75hz

#

I have a 14 year old 60hz monitor that can oc to 75hz

sudden torrent
modern walrus
#

What are the odds this works with TVs

#

I'm technically using a commercial display as a monitor

sudden torrent
#

The same as monitors, just different features

modern walrus
#

it's 4K, 43", & was only like $300 refurbished

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& it's a samsung

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so it's not junk

#

yo I might always buy commercial displays. If you get them new they're more expensive than TVs but they come with 10 year warranties & are designed for 24/7 operation

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"4k panels least likely to play ball." heck

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well bottoms up

sudden torrent
#

Yeah TVs make for decent displays but they're mostly 60hz, 120hz if you get really good ones. 4k120 isn't really mainstream yet in TVs since they're more aimed at consoles.

modern walrus
#

a 4K 120hz monitor is crazy expensive

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like a 22" for $400

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& when they're that small that super high resolution is kinda useless

#

It's like getting a 4K 32" TV

sudden torrent
#

That's not much more than 1440 high refresh price

modern walrus
#

ya but 1440 you'd probably get like a 27 at that price

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my screen isn't playing ball

#

isn't 4k gaming mostly 60fps anyway?

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I'd rather have 4k at 60 than 1080 at 75

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assuming it would even work anyway

#

ah heck let's give it a try

sudden torrent
#

Some panels just won't like it

modern walrus
#

ya no go on that too

#

I haven't CODed since like '08 so I don't really need high refresh

#

I do kinda regret not getting a 3080 but they're impossible anyway

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& expensive

sudden torrent
#

I updated the bios on my board to support agesa 1.2.0.2 and now it looks like not only am I stable at 1933 fclk but I'm also able to tighten my primary timings more. Still testing but I'm down to 14-15-11-12-30. I'll post up my final results later but this is looking pretty sweet so I had to share.

short blade
#

I'm on agesa 1.2.0.3 b and 1900 fclk performs better than 1933 for me

sudden torrent
#

I'll get to that, I'm still working on the overclock. I can't just copy my old settings on this board, it fails to boot.

#

As it is it's an improvement from before. No more whea at 1933. 1966 is still bad though.

sterile flame
#

how oc r5 3600

zenith palm
#

Enable precision boost overdrive (pbo) in the bios is your best bet and pretty easy too

storm wedge
#

can i safely overcloak a laptop?

zenith palm
#

Most laptops wont even overclock, a handful of gaming laptops will let you overclock tho so it depends

lavish tundra
#

dont overclock

storm wedge
#

ok

#

lol

short blade
#

it depends on the laptop

#

I'm overclocking the crap out of mine

faint tangle
#

I'm testing +300 on core rn

#

Prolly high to start ofd

#

But I've gone up by a bit more before before I knew much about ocing

#

Aaaaand timespy crashed

#

Well then

#

Guess I'll start slowly at +50

#

even +50 on thwe core made timespy crash

#

after a while but it did

zenith palm
faint tangle
#

im playing mc now i closed both

#

i can show you what i had the settings at if you want

dull ginkgo
#

up the power limit to max, might as well

faint tangle
#

power limit wasnt the issue idt

#

otherwise my pc woulda shut off

#

750w psu so not the issue either

dull ginkgo
#

wat

dull ginkgo
faint tangle
#

yeah ik

dull ginkgo
#

it's not like over power protection

faint tangle
#

i mean its not the reason it crashed

dull ginkgo
#

it might just need a bit more power

#

Not enough power to maintain the clock can still cause it to crash

#

doesn't hurt to up the pl

faint tangle
#

alr ill try it later

faint tangle
#

So I found out where it crashes

#

It goes through the whole thing fine

#

But instead of showing the results it just closes

#

So it didn't crash earlier that happened ^^

#

Should I Uninstall reinstall?

#

@dull ginkgo

zenith palm
zenith palm
faint tangle
#

I reinstalled and running it with 50 on core mow

#

Now*

zenith palm
#

okay

faint tangle
#

And 104 on power limit

#

Which is as far as it goes

zenith palm
twilit yoke
#

would yall say OCing a 5900x would be worth it? im not sure. it would have a 360mm rad backing it up yet, either EK AIO or Lian Lia Galahad.

faint tangle
twilit yoke
#

cause i feel like it would just run the 5900x very hard it it would die in like 3 years

faint tangle
#

Didn't crash this time

#

12030 for graphics

#

With 50 on core and 104 on power

#

So go up to 100 now?

zenith palm
zenith palm
zenith palm
faint tangle
twilit yoke
zenith palm
dull ginkgo
#

It's not really pointless, it's just hard to do better than pbo

zenith palm
dull ginkgo
#

Unless you know what you're doing, pbo will get you better results

zenith palm
#

Okay well yeah it takes a pretty good overclock to beat pbo

twilit yoke
#

whats the difference?

dull ginkgo
#

Pbo boosts for you

#

Manual is manually setting clocks and voltages

twilit yoke
#

so pbo is automatic ocing pretting much

faint tangle
#

12158 with 100

#

To 150 now?

zenith palm
zenith palm
faint tangle
#

Kk

faint tangle
#

Already nearly at average 3070

#

350 below ~

faint tangle
# zenith palm Yep

So if I can go up to like 300 on my core, is that considered a good bin?

#

And in the future for when I oc, should i do it slowly like I am now or can I go up to around what the max I get is?

#

12360

zenith palm
faint tangle
zenith palm
#

Good luck

faint tangle
#

Doesn't seem to be any artifacting so far or anything

faint tangle
#

Error occurred

#

Still pretty close to a 3070

zenith palm
#

You can try 175

#

@faint tangle oc the mem too

faint tangle
#

Oh I didn't know mem affected this

zenith palm
faint tangle
#

Oh cool

#

What's a good number to start on the mem?

#

I'm guessing it's different from mining lol

zenith palm
#

I'd try 900 and start from there

faint tangle
#

Kk

zenith palm
#

Increments of 50 until crash then you can drop 25 see if it's stable

faint tangle
#

Cool thanks

zenith palm
#

Np

faint tangle
#

I'll leave core at 150, just bc it'll be my card for around 3 years at least

#

I'd rather keep it under its limit

#

Prolly won't oc till I play games that need it to run ultra settings

#

Just curious

zenith palm
zenith palm
faint tangle
zenith palm
#

Nah

faint tangle
#

I'm new to overclocking tbf

#

Cool

zenith palm
#

Technically it can degrade if you mess with voltages etc

#

But it wont like die

faint tangle
#

Oh I'm stupid

#

I forgot to up power limit again

zenith palm
#

Save it to a profile

faint tangle
#

Just did but I'll have to run it again

#

It closed once I tabbed out

zenith palm
#

Weird?

#

Are you sure you hit apply

faint tangle
#

Yeah

#

No I mean time spy closed

#

The test anyways

#

App stayed open

zenith palm
#

Ahh

faint tangle
#

Was gonna have to run again anyways with the higher power limit

zenith palm
#

Yeah you can't alt tab

#

Once you open timespy test take your hands away from the keyboard lol

faint tangle
#

Yeah i haven't even been at my pc for most of them lol

#

Just came back to up power limit

#

Oh btwv

#

My card came from a pre build

#

Can I still register the warranty on it?

zenith palm
#

I dont see why not

faint tangle
#

12613 with 900 on mem

#

Oh btw

#

Should i turn fans up?

zenith palm
zenith palm
faint tangle
#

Got 12706

#

Gonna by by 50 for the rest

zenith palm
faint tangle
#

Also 12687 so it's officially passed the average 3070 with 150 core, 104 power limit, 1050 mem

zenith palm
faint tangle
zenith palm
faint tangle
#

Oh cool

#

Thanks

zenith palm
#

Np

faint tangle
#

Still, thats above the average 3070

#

Pog

zenith palm
faint tangle
#

Wait I thought I did oops

#

12758 ima go back to 1150 now and see what happens

#

Yeah error. 1100 is the max

#

Still, that's a decent bit over the average 3070

#

And 1754 over the average 3060 ti

glacial jewel
#

Uhh this is my friends MacBook

#

What should he do

zenith palm
zenith palm
faint tangle
zenith palm
faint tangle
#

Ohhh

#

Kk

short blade
#

3070M laptop gets 11776

faint tangle
short blade
#

oced

#

both of my 3070s were able to hit over 15k though

faint tangle
#

i meant the base 3070 and i was also looking at the wrong thing lol

short blade
#

you're approaching it but wouldn't say beating it

faint tangle
#

yeah ik

short blade
#

my laptop approaches stock desktop 3060ti

faint tangle
#

i was looking at overall score not gpu

short blade
#

fair

faint tangle
#

average 3060 ti not oc is 11004

short blade
#

overall score is quite useless

faint tangle
#

yeah pato corrected me

short blade
#

can inflate scores with better cpu

faint tangle
#

i didnt realize i had to change it

short blade
#

looks like my 3070 would be 54th place

faint tangle
#

wow

short blade
#

however i'm disqualified from the 3070 leaderboard

#

cause it's just showing my 3080 as my entry instead

faint tangle
#

rip

short blade
#

my 3080 is hot garbage so i have no hopes for that

#

oh yeah it's bad lmao

faint tangle
#

do you think better cooling will increase performance for timespy?

#

wait no

short blade
#

if you want to up your time spy score then manual oc your ram

faint tangle
#

i meant to say increase overclocking capabilities?

#

vram you mean?

#

i did

short blade
#

no

#

system ram

faint tangle
#

ah

#

idt i can

short blade
#

my 3070 got 12314 with 2666c12 ram and 15330 with 3733c14 ram

faint tangle
#

i have 3600mhz cl18

#

so idt i can oc that much

short blade
#

subtimings help

faint tangle
#

meaning?

short blade
#

there are more timings than cl

faint tangle
#

ah

#

i believe 16 17 17 18

short blade
#

no

#

more than that

faint tangle
#

how do i check?

short blade
faint tangle
#

idk if this helps

short blade
#

zentimings

#

3600 18-20-20-40 sounds like a bad bin

#

but even a bad bin benefits from tightening subtimings

faint tangle
#

its hp ram lol

short blade
#

you might be able to get 3733-3800 on the same primary timings as well

#

by upping vdimm

#

but

#

i wouldn't do that until you figure out which IC it is

#

since some of the worst ICs scale negatively and/or degrade above 1.35v

faint tangle
#

ima be honest

#

i have no clue what any of that means

#

other than the degrading part and voltage

short blade
#

thaiphoon burner has a decent chance of telling you what the IC is

#

it tells me that this kit is micron rev. e

#

which i already knew cause this kit is always micron rev. e

#

maybe yours will be hynix afr or samsung c-die

#

anyways ram oc is more trouble than it's worth for most people

faint tangle
#

ill download it in a moment

short blade
#

but if you really want to increase that timespy score it can help

#

though of course it helps general gaming performance too

#

if it didn't i wouldn't have spent like 3 weeks doing it

#

i can never go back to xmp

faint tangle
#

how much would it decrease the life span of the ram do you think?

short blade
#

same as any other overclocking

#

0 if you do it right

faint tangle
#

alr ty

short blade
#

don't pump 1.8v into it

faint tangle
#

alr 2v got it

short blade
#

safe voltage depends on which IC

#

i daily 1.524v on rev. e but can go up to 1.6v safely

#

higher voltages not always better

faint tangle
#

ik just joking lol

short blade
#

usually for people pushing higher voltages they will strap on a fan on top of their ram

#

not going to apply to you though

faint tangle
#

yeah i might just leave it for now

short blade
#

3600c18 bin kit

#

if it's not one of the kits that starts to scale negatively after 1.35v

#

it probably won't gain any further benefit going beyond 1.45v

faint tangle
#

idk i got it for 40$ off reddit lmao

short blade
#

i spent 85 on mine

faint tangle
#

a guy was doing a clearance

#

also got an asrock b550m ac/itx for 40$ from him

short blade
#

nice

#

i did a lot of r/hws dealhunting for my new build too

faint tangle
#

thats where i got mine

#

skytech screwed me

#

my 1200$ pre build went to over 1800 from just tryna replace mobo

#

psu wasnt what it was supposed to be

#

case was made to only fit that mobo

short blade
prisma arch
#

perhaps
i am at 4.8ghz all core tho

zenith palm
prisma arch
#

how are you still awake

zenith palm
#

?

#

It's 00:30 for me lol

#

Not that late

prisma arch
#

uhh very late

#

you have been online for like 12 hours

zenith palm
#

Not the whole 12 hours lmao

#

People sleep for less than 12 hours a day my guy

sterile flame
#

hey @zenith palm ik you said amd oc is trash but is 1.3000 voltage fine overide mode?

#

4.2ghz

zenith palm
sterile flame
#

alr

#

@nocturne sailyone lol

#

oh sorry

#

to an

#

whoever that is

#

also one more thing @zenith palm when I put in the core voltage it says 1.2250

#

not 1.225

#

thats fine right

dull ginkgo
#

it's the same thing

#

also keep in mind vdroop and such, software will report slightly different voltage

modern walrus
#

Any idea why my CB score would drop from just north of 17k to just over 15k? Cores degrading already? lol 10900K btw

#

VROUT is >1.35v tho

#

btw how do you determine core preference on 10900Ks? like AMD tells you which is best-worst

clever epoch
#

Degradation would cause you to become unstable at voltage/freq, wouldn't degrade your score (with static clocks)

#

Best guess: tasks running on your OS. I get a bit of a bump in cinebench if I run in safe mode, or on a fresh OS, compared to my daily OS (where I have games, discord, launchers, etc. running)

modern walrus
#

ah okay thanks

#

I was thinking of attempting per core offset on 10900K to see if I can squeeze a little more out of it. Does Intel tell you which core is best to worst like AMD does?

#

rn I'm running single-core CB 23 to see which cores the system assigns (assuming it would choose best ones)

south sky
modern walrus
#

wait jk 1.305

south sky
#

still pretty high but eh

#

The cores only have one clock gen, so they all have to clock at the same speed

#

So per core is just per core boost

modern walrus
#

ya? on 10900K?

south sky
#

if you set lets say 4 cores to 5.2ghz and the rest to 5.1ghz, those cores will go to 5.2ghz when the other 4 are disabled

#

Which the intel scheduler is useless at

modern walrus
#

ohh so it's not possible to run different ratios on different core simultaneously?

south sky
#

it's not

modern walrus
#

ah okay

#

or do per core voltage offsets like Curve optimizer?

south sky
#

not a thing

modern walrus
#

If I only set voltage, it won't just apply constant voltage & each processor will clock accordingly... how does it do single core then? lol

#

oh wait I think I get it. I can set like 53 if only 2 in use; 52 if 4; etc

#

I changed core ratio to auto, set voltage to constant, & changed max to 53 so I let the voltage dictate the max ratio

#

well in theory who knows

modern walrus
#

Like it'll automatically set the highest clock possible at that voltage

modern walrus
#

is that a thing? lol

short blade
#

so after ocing ram, on boot the pc recognizes usb devices, then when windows starts it drops all usb devices for a couple seconds and i get like 30 wheas, then usb devices reconnect and everything is normal after that

#

ram oc is completely stable and there are no performance issues

#

any way i can make the first thing go away 02think

#

no wheas after the initial burst at log in

sterile flame
#

Im on 4.4ghz

#

I ran multicore and single core

#

max temps are shown above

#

do yall think I can go higher?

modern walrus
#

Use PBO

#

PBO with Curve Optimizer gets you the best outcome on those Ryzens

#

Let PBO decide voltage

#

I was only able to get 4.6 on my 5900x but other claim they can do 5.0 all core

#

but PBO gives you the best of both worlds because it'll boost your single-core & multi-core

lavish tundra
#

You can pass cinebench and get a score and crash while launching a game

sterile flame
#

lmao

lavish tundra
#

Cinebench for oc stress testing is garbage

sterile flame
#

temps were really low though

lavish tundra
#

Doesnt matter

sterile flame
#

so prime 95

#

...

lavish tundra
#

Not smallest

sterile flame
#

kk

modern walrus
#

get HWiNFO so you can see which are the best cores then do curve optimizer

sterile flame
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wats curve optimizer

modern walrus
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AMD's overclocking

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You can either get Ryzen Master (which I personally do not like at all & is very very hard to uninstall) or in BIOS (for me) under Advanced there are three options that say AMD. I forget the names I know the top one is like PBS or something

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hold on let me restart & I'll tell you

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well frist, which board do you have?

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First change the OC settings you put in back to Auto (leave XMP) then go to Advanced>AMD Overclocking>Accept>Precision Boost Overdrivechange Precision Boost Overdrive to Advanced>

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PBO limits you can mess with if you want. They affect thermals but for now it's easier to just put motherboard

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then go to Curve Optimizer and change all the offsets to negative then on your best 2 cores put like -20, then -15 for the next 2 best then -10 for your worst 2 cores

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some people like to do the Max CPU boost clock override after they mess with offsets but I'd at least start with 100mHz

sterile flame
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uhhh