#overclocking
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Little by little is good. If +175 ends up being optimal, going to +150 will miss those gains.
Your CPU is a 5900x?
5800X but same concept
ya true
More cores just means more tweaks to make in CO 🥲
I mean I was looking at forums & really north of 22000 aint too bad for this chip
people were all excited at 21500+
in CB I mean
I figured
But then again I've heard claims of all core 50 so who knows
22k gets you into the top 50 scores for a 12 core CPU on HWBot
Usually liquid nitrogen
PBO will do that?
Oh yeah, PBO will boost as long as the limits aren't hit. If you're running at a negative temp and power delivery is still good, it'll just keep going until it crashes.
WTF
Max
That's the effective clock too, must be a bug
Besides that bug everything else lines up to the 25 less offset
I guess +200 is good
You're probably pretty close, I'm looking at other HWBot subs and 4.6 all core is really good, almost record breaking for that CPU.
& it won't get much higher (if it does at all anyway)
but it'll raise voltage
& I don't wanna be north of 1.300
under load I mean
like raising TDC/EDC only increases voltage & heat
nothing else
useless
I guess it's been a good night tho. I mean 6.1gHz single-core, 17 million on CB R23
lol
I certainly couldn't ask for more than that lol
Too bad that probably just means something is messed up
I would love for my core to hit 6GHz
I don't know how else to get these numbers up at this point
unless I just say to heck with caring if I'm over 1.3v
which is a bad idea
You could do that to put in a submission for clock speed, then drop it for daily use. You could get the Newegg team a few points with that, just sayin.
how do I do that?
Sign up for an account, and you can pick the Wegg team on signup
Then you can just use benchmate to automate everything from validating entries to downloading various software for benching
ok crap I signed in with Google
Let me see if I can find where to add it
what's "extreme cooled submissions?"
N2, etc?
Yeah that's liquid nitrogen and helium
okay joining Wegg
how do I like...submit stuff?
I guess I've signed up before because I have 11 achievements lol
Each category has its own guidelines for submitting. Many things can be automated with benchmate. You can read the rules for each category.
wait I'm not sure now I'm wrong
okay I'll check it out
wow CB R23 world record is 113,566. I destroyed that lmao
And that's with way more cpu cores too
jeez I'm barely over 22k 113k? good lord
Pretty sure that's a 32 core threadripper hitting 100k+
Has to be
One fun thing to remember is that you don't need to be stable to submit, just stable enough to pass the test and take a Screenshot. Some things don't even have a test, like frequency records.
hmm I wonder if my 10900K is better for that then haha
So it's just screenshots? seems easy to manipulate lol
I'd rather just do the auto-submit ones
That's what benchmate is for, and the screenshots have to include other info so if something doesn't add up you'll get flagged.
tight. What should I try first. What's GPUPI?
Calculating pi to a certain number of digits, optionally using gpu to accelerate the calculation.
Hence, gpu pi
Make sure to include your cpu-z info like it says in rules
It ranks by core count
8 core vs 8 core, etc
oh it doesn't automatically submit or something?
It'll do most of the work but cpu-z is mostly just extra insurance against being flagged
okay it's open rn
When you go to submit it'll bring up the page with basic details filled and you can add info like memory speed, motherboard, etc
You sure I'm not gonna like bring down the team average or something? lol
You changed back to +200?
oh crap I forgot to fix that
ooops
I'll fix it after this bench
rn it's looking like I'm gonna come in over 22215 so I'm gonna let it ride
No harm in submitting to see what it looks like before you crank it up
ya true. Gotta get a baseline
Before when I had no idea you were supposed to use PBO, I got 23193 with 47 all core
I was trying to overclock like I did on the 10900K
Then everyone is like "you're stupid you gotta use PBO"
Not that it's stupid, it's just really bad for the chip
I think the system crashed right after that but it's still logged haha
I had it on set core voltage
I don't recall what tho
I think I saved the profile
might be in BIOS still
Probably north of 1.3 tho
before I was told that's too high
core voltage is 1.296 rn with the 4505gHz
Is CPU-Z as accurate as HWiNFO SW whatever
4.7 GHz would get you around 5th for your processor on the leaderboard
You can run it at that temporarily to submit the frequency
Why is PBO allowing this high voltage?
It allows it in short bursts. It's sustained load at too-high voltage that degrades.
22206 darn it
But if I mess with TDC/EDC/PPT PBO will exceed safe voltages?
it says this result cannot be saved
wtf
The processor safeties will be disabled if you adjust either LLC (load line calibration) or set a static voltage
HWBOT is a site dedicated to overclocking. We promote overclocking achievements and competitions for professionals as well as enthousiasts with rankings and a huge hardware database.
Just for reference
heck. I read this before
22206 would put you at #48 on the rankings for 12 core processors
And would also beat our team best
well heck I cannot submit
I'm running it agasin
it's keeping it at steady 1.312v
this worries me
22739 would be pimpin
Whoa I hope that submits
Do I need to run the entire thing if it shows there already??
It needs to complete if that's what you mean. It needs to show the rendered scene.
22739 would place you at #46
Did you save the result (F6) so it uploads the screenshot?
I'm supposed to do that while it's running/
because about halfway through the option disappeared
Just after it completes, unless it detected some issue with the system clock. That could also explain the odd behavior like abnormal clock speed and score. Maybe a bios update is in order, or a new cmos battery?
The motherboard is less than like
5 months old...?
& I'm pretty sure BIOS is up to date
I've had to replace the battery off the shelf before
Bios can be updated every month on some boards
hmm maybe
this is the first time I've had issues
but I've also been playing with settings all night
gonna check for BIOS update then restart at elast
least
there's a newer version but it's a beta
Up to you on that one then
Meanwhile you inspired me to run ycruncher and got a pretty decent score, should get us a few points
it has "update AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI"
Do I want whatever that is enough to run beta BIOS?
Wait WHAT
?
I think that's the update that helps you get higher fclk
Yeah, but what that means is you can run it faster and overclock your memory more
what speed/timing
You need to do more than just change speed
3800 is probably the max that's stable for your fclk
but my research made me think 1T was better
Nah command rate can be bad, tightening is good. C16 should be easy. C14 if you have epic RAM.
Best left at 1T command rate
I'd have to drop clock speed for sure
I upped it to 1.45
what die
G.skill has a version number on the memory that tells you what die is on it
yes
yea i doubt you can get anything better than c16
It could be b-die, you'd need the version number on the white sticker to be sure
If it's b-die then you got an epic kit
Come on 4.31 🎲
have fun
Dang Jan 2021 manufacture date, could be one of the newer dies
I figured it was but I've seen rev.e with similar
crucial just sucks at factory timings
Yeah good point, the 2x32 is a giveaway
most rev.e should easily do 5000c18 but they have like a c22 kit or sum at 5100
I tried upping it by like 66mHz & it crashed CMOS fun time
granted, you need specific aorus or modified boards for that 5000c18
so you haven't touched timings?
like before this
still worth a shot for c16
If it is indeed b-die, which we believe it to be, safe voltage is around 1.7v in theory. In practice, around 1.5v or so is good if you have a fan near the sticks. Any higher you'll want a fan directly on them.
wtf it's showing voltage at 1.44+
I'm running mine at 1.52v with no modifications, and it's RGB also
I mean CPU
Is it still on auto? That's fine in bios
no on CB! lol
Oh what, that's not good
ya I shut down
Gonna figure this crap out
man 1.7v??
That's a lot lmao
Should I bump it to 1.5?
Yep, people do 1.7v on b-die for benching
you need a fan like right over it though for 1.7 so just do 1.5 for now
1.5v should be safe and help tighten the timings
people do 2.2 for benchign too
MJR yikes
I've seen that but that's typically on LN2 right?
What about these? lol
2.2v can be done ambient
2.2?? lol
ooh ajr
I have two sets
I was about to say lol
one for 10900K (most recent--16gbx2) & one for 5900x (32gbx2)
it'll do better then that
Double checked the 042 code and yeah that 3800 kit is MJR. Should scale up to 1.45v, maybe higher but that's as far as they bin them.
I think I have it at 1.45 already
I bet you can drop cas to 16 then, no issues.
Hmm, setting it to 1.45v in bios means it'll get less than that once under load. You can try going a little higher to compensate.
MJR is basically big CJR, so it's big garbage
It says SK Hynix on CPU-Z
not necessarily
VDIMM vrms are weird
Well that's how it works on mine 🤷♂️
I suppose I could probe it but, eh.
you actually put a multimeter on your RAM like that?
btw what do you do with Scalar? I left it on Auto
Just the slot
leave it auto or 1x
Leave scalar on auto, that's another one that can disable protections
afk xn means n times more degradation
it doesn't
Just makes the chip value it's own life less
lol
I was told otherwise, but I know how knowledgeable you are
oh so I shuoldn't have that maxed out on my video card?
Well it makes it value it's life less, the only stuff I've seen on that was according to Nvidia, and they claimed maxed was 1 year whilst nothing was 5 years iirc
okay cool voltage is 1.288 under load now
just by dialing back EDC & TDC by 2 amps
go figure
I'm pretty sure 10x scalar vs 1x is around 50mv more voltage under load
1.256 under load on CB rn
maybe I should hit it up
22617
submitting
it'll let you submit a single render?
because the newer CB version has this awful minimum test duration thing I hate
I got Wegg another 10 points from my ycruncher sub, I think I can do better but I'm calling it a night.
You don't need to enable that duration
lol so 30 second tests count?
wow
I might load that all core 47 OC & maybe bump to 48 haha
It needs to be one full pass, so if it finishes in 30 seconds great
how many points will 22617 get? lol
uh now I get to figure out how to log in but with a gmail account
Open up hwbot.org and it'll tell you what your username is, and you can always tell it to "update" your password from the account screen.
Try your email password?
I'm gonna log out then do forgot password I guess
okay email sent
heckin mission
okay finally
wait one more thing
How do I find out my overall ranking??
46th
out of 110 meh
I'm 36th "in team"
so out of all the people on Wegg using 5900x then?
That doesn't mean you're average, that means you're average on an overclocking website where people have liquid nitrogen tanks delivered weekly
That's global ranking
select "advanced benchmark" under options
and you can turn it off
4.0.4 doesnt work on z370?
hdr screenshot 🤮
im not sure this is just the version i had from my hm470 laptop and it worked so i didnt feel the need to change it
it just failed to load this one time
Thank you
guys do you think i could overclock my pc
If you don't mind spending a bit of time it's worth it, well your graphics card anyway, guessing the specs in your name are right you cant overclock your cpu
Even with a locked Intel CPU, Z series motherboards allow setting increased power limits, no? That'll get you 90% of the performance of an overclock anyways
yeah
with i7-11700 and 3060 you'll be gpu bound in most situations so you should see nice benefit from ocing your gpu
and gpu is the easiest to oc
I wanna overclock my 2400mhz ram to 3200mhz Any timings or volts age suggestions?
Ehhh hold your hourses try get to 2666 first then 3000mhz, what ram kit do you have?
2666mhz is fine
Hyperx 2400mhz ram @zenith palm
Can you link me the kit please?
@olive onyx is there a sticker on the ram kit
Can you send a pic of it
Try just change frequency to 2666mhz without changing from xmp timings and see if it boots
Then if it boots download test mem5 and run the extreme anta config @olive onyx
Ok
Btw hyperx isn't one of the brands that does tell you the die on the sticker
Hyperx is owned by kingston tho
Start of the sticker is the same
Pretty sure Kingston doesn't either
Overclocking wiki just gives up on Kingston and just says what Kingston kits can be lol
Ohh right lol
I think I need to start from square one here. When you're doing PBO, is the first step to have all offset magnitudes at 0 then start at like 120/120/whatever (EDC & TDC should be limited by their own numbers, not PPT) & increase TDC/EDC by 10 amps respectively until benchmarking (CB R23 or the like) causes your temps to reach 80-85 or something then do magnitude offsets?
because what I've noticed (having done offsets before messing with TDC/EDC like a clown) is when you increase TDC/EDC there is only a marginal increase in core performance but an accompanying increase in voltage & heat
i.e. increasing TDC/EDC by only 1 or 2 amps will result in like 33mHz increase on core performance but will bump voltage under load form like 1.263 to 1.281
also what at which step in the process should increasing PBO max take place? Should I start at +200, +100, or +0?
with 120 for both EDC & TDC at +200 mhz, PBO keeps voltage between 1.281-1.300 under load. Max temp 78.5. That seems too high
the voltage I mean
should I even care what CB says for voltage? Prime95 keeps it at even 1.114 lol
maybe I'll just put motherboard & stop messing with these
motherboard limits give you tdc 120 edc 190. Voltage is the same, hovering around 1.281-1.300 (I guess PBO keeps load voltage less than or equal to 1.300 always) but the resulting effective clocks are way worse 120/190 than 120/120
4,376 v. 4,46x
Why? I have no clue whatsoever
First thing should be to determine power limit. Then TDC, then EDC, then curve optimizer, then boost frequency
If PBO is running 1.3V for R23, but properly drops it to <1.2V for P95, you should be fine
How do I determine power limit?
put no limits & see where it gets hot right?
i.e. >90?
Yeah, increase limits to high levels and run prime95. See how much wattage the processor pulls when it throttles. Then you set your PPT like 10 watts below that
With my potato of a PC, I managed to get 7th place on the 3DMark Port Royal Hall of Fame earlier tonight. https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1139564
I also got 1st place in a couple categories on HWBOT. 1st place the 32B GPU Pi rankings https://hwbot.org/benchmark/gpupi_-_32b/rankings?hardwareTypeId=videocard_3311&cores=2#start=0#interval=20
1st place in the GPU Pi 3.3 1B rankings https://hwbot.org/benchmark/gpupi_v3.3_-_1b/rankings?hardwareTypeId=videocard_3311&cores=2#start=0#interval=20
wow that's impressive
Nice
so i oc succesefully with ryzen master but for sum reason my ram went down in frequency
like to base
which no bueno for ryzen cpu.... any help
@sterile flame just use the bios, doing overclocking in windows through software is finicky
oh alr
very potato...
any advice, everytime i try to get my ram to its 3600 speed it bricks my computer with my 5900x
what ram is it and are you just setting it to 3600 or are you changing voltage timings etc
setting it to 3600 and it’s gskill 2x 16 gb ram kits 3600 speed cl16 @zenith palm
you just need to enable xmp instead
See if there's an xmp profile 2, otherwise you bought the wrong kit lol
i did not buy the wrong kit, it literally says on box,
it just won’t overclock to 3600 lol
then there will be a 2nd xmp profile, 1 or 2, whichever its on change to the other, it will overclock to 3600 it just wont with jdec timings and voltages, xmp does that auto for you
can i send pic
yes
understood profile two at 3600
yep
Reason: Bad word usage
thank you, i’ve been messing around all day trying to get it unstuck at 3600 kept having to reset that ram battery thingy
np lol
if that doesnt work, clear cmos again (battery thing) then just do xmp, nothing else
okay yep and do you happen to know how to change the color of skill memory lol
g. skill
ehh that should also be in the rgb section of your bios i think? idk i dont touch rgb with a 10 foot floor because it can be a pain lol
Either download the Gskill desktop app to control the RGB or it's also compatible with several other lighting apps from other brands so that you can sync the lighting.
i tried with msi and it won’t seem to work
Mystic lights worked with my Trident z neo last I tried
the g.skill app & mystic light do not get along in my experience. I ended up with half the lights out on one stick
with MSI z490 Gaming Carbon Wifi
It kinda works but not well
Yeah I had the same type of thing happen. I ended up being able to make so that msi never controls it
I went the opposite route and made sure only MSI controls it
Mystic light isn't half bad. I kinda miss it compared to Armourycrate. Aorus has decent RGB tho
Anyone with a 5900x actually get PBO to do all core over 46?
I don’t want mystic light running or gskill so I just let it run default effect with no program
The like moving rainbow?
Not exactly. Default starts out as moving rainbow but eventually they all go out of sync. Almost seems on purpose. Ends up looking like colored rain dripping down glass.
Personally I use the gskill app and rgb fusion with no issue.
Because unfortunately rgb fusion doesn't have an option for the rainbow effect, only default.
do any timings scale with vddp/vddg/vsoc specifically? if so which?
@finite frigate Im 15th on RX570 leaderboards
Nice
How so?
Probably using "multi-gpu" setup where they used the more powerful GPU to run the benchmark but submitted as the weaker one
Yep
Exactly
Use a 2080ti and an rx570 in the same rig and get a 10k score on an rx570
How hard is it to overclock the 3060ti?
Not at all, msi afterburner, power slider all the way to the right, increase clock in 25s, test using 3d mark demo on steam(timespy) until it crashes, then dial back, then do mem in 15mhz increments until crash then dial back 15mhz, but start off with +100 core and +850 mem and start from there
Imo for nvidia cards do mem in plus 50
remember they report effective not actual clock
For 30 series it goes up in +5s for mem so +15 is fine
But 15mhz is like 3mhz effective
Wait what
What's the point in that lol
Ughhh
+100 is only 25mhz so
Sad
QDR memory is the reason, instead of DDR which advertises the same way. That "4000 MHz" stick of memory is actually 2000 MHz.
Then why is still called gddrx then lol
Wacky
X is just micron's trademark
No idea why, but it's QDR. It has been since GDDR5.
Ohh i just meant x as a placeholder number not as in g6x that was a bit confusing on my part tbf
I had no idea lol nice thanks for the info
Branding probably. It would be strange/confusing to normies if it went from GDDR4 to QDR.
Bigger number better
True true
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Is it better to OC amd gpus is the Radeon software or afterburner?
depends on the gpu
If you don't mess with voltage afterburner is fine usually
It’s a 6800xt
I know afterburner fairly well since that’s what I used with Nvidia cards but I’m not sure with AMD
Radeon software for most amd cards
Yep i can
biggest problem with radeon software is that sometimes it just decides to not load your desired core voltages
*G5X
Not G5 iirc

GDDR5X was literally a JEDEC spec
Oh yeah
DDR6 is getting WCK :)))))))
So now all the pieces of garbage who talk about 1t can run 1t at 8:1 WCK:CK
What is wck?
Write clock
As in just the rate it writes at i assume?
No
It’s the rate at which PHY to Module is sent
So the ram can be operating at CK 1600mhz for example
And use that for all of its command logic
But the clock used to generate data will be at a different ratio
In 4:1 WCK:CK, ram could be at 1600mhz with WCK 6400mhz
And thus get 12.8Gbps
Of course the command logic would be worse so you’d get nowhere near that
But you could run much much higher frequencies
This change would allow logic to stop being the issue with high clocking memory by offloading logic to the slower CK
All this means is that your “1t” at 4:1 DDR6-12800 is only at CK 1600mhx
So effectively 4T if it was a true 6400mhz CK
Ohh thanks
@lavish tundra Could you help me out with this? Im not too sure about OCing in radeon software
Hell im not that well versed in gpu OCIng in the first place
Gimme 15?
Having dinner rn
Find max clock that's stable, set min to 100 below it, check if that's stable, lower min if unstable
Raise power limit to as much as you can cool
Set mem to fast timings, raise clock until performance regressions or 2150
why 2150?
Because that's the max you can set for memory clock?
but yeah @wheat lintel fitz is more knowledgeable than I am and what he said is what I recommend as well.
on gddr6?
or all
On rdna2
Oh I see
Are there any downsides to setting it to 2150?
Also what intervals should i do for finding a max clock thats stable?
50
ahh ok ill just use superposition then since i have it installed
I still recommend heaven tbh
whats the difference?
Do I need to run heaven for the full time?
yes
What would be considered a good OC for a 6800xt?
running into the clock limit 😛
I’m getting about 2.6 Ghz
MPT it and crank 3ghz 
MPT?
no clock limit can be bypassed
imagine being limited to 2ghz core clocks, with smol $
How would I go about getting even higher than 2.6 Ghz on my 6800xt? Rn that’s the highest I can get
And how would I use MPT?
Is it a program I download or what
MorePowerTool, it lets you remove the power limit if you can cool it
if you're getting 2.6 set in drivers, that's the max you'll get
if under load, you have like 2.7 set and you're only at 2.6, then MPT will help
I have 2.6 max set and that’s as high as it will go
then that's your max
So should I give MPT a shot?
And will a 750watt PSU be fine for the 6800xt and 3700x?
if you're air cooling, it'll be fine
Yep
Yeah the 6800xt is air cooled
I thought 6800XT limit was 2.8?
Im understanding it at 2.6 is max stable
ah, ye
How does one overclock a monitor?
You have a nvidia gpu by chance?
If so nvidia control panel I belive its called
What’s the current hz on it?
Y’all proud of me? 
Is that in leaderboard mode
It’s on score explorer
Nvm it was on leaderboard
Wait nvm when it’s on leaderboard I’m 10th
Yeah, always use leaderboard mode
Should bench the card in firestrike/extreme and see how you score
Yeah I will once I get around to buying them
Does fire strike take into account cpu?
It does yeah, but big navi dominates FS in general
its also super cpu bound until 4k firestrike
5800x + reve is faster than 10900kf + bdie too 
Ooh I like that lol
I noticed time spy is also really cpu bound. When I ran it for the first time with the gpu OCed to 2.6 Ghz and 2150 mem with the cpu stock it only got a score of like 14k
I brought up the cpu from stock to 4.4 gHz and it brought it to 17k
How do I submit this result to hwbot?
Like I see the button on the website page of the result but clicking it just reloads the page
My hwbot account is linked
are you logged into hwbot?
Yep I am
Create a custom resolution profile in nvidia/amd software
Wait why is there such a difference in the bottom of leaderboard vs score explorer
One guy has like 30 different results in the top 50
I see
undervolt 5800x
before i updated my bios i got 4.625 ghz@1.25 volts
I have a small negative offset on my voltage, it helps
Did you set the same LLC settings?
am intrested on getting higher refresh rates on my screen ,is possible to overclock my laptop's display
overclocking display is only worth if you're at 60-75hz
you guys know everything
I am at 60hz on a 43" display
Not everything, but definitely more than average
https://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-overclock-your-60hz-monitor-and-gain-a-gaming-edge/
What are the odds this works with TVs
I'm technically using a commercial display as a monitor
The same as monitors, just different features
it's 4K, 43", & was only like $300 refurbished
& it's a samsung
so it's not junk
yo I might always buy commercial displays. If you get them new they're more expensive than TVs but they come with 10 year warranties & are designed for 24/7 operation
"4k panels least likely to play ball." heck
well bottoms up
Yeah TVs make for decent displays but they're mostly 60hz, 120hz if you get really good ones. 4k120 isn't really mainstream yet in TVs since they're more aimed at consoles.
a 4K 120hz monitor is crazy expensive
like a 22" for $400
& when they're that small that super high resolution is kinda useless
It's like getting a 4K 32" TV
That's not much more than 1440 high refresh price
ya but 1440 you'd probably get like a 27 at that price
my screen isn't playing ball
isn't 4k gaming mostly 60fps anyway?
I'd rather have 4k at 60 than 1080 at 75
assuming it would even work anyway
ah heck let's give it a try
Some panels just won't like it
ya no go on that too
I haven't CODed since like '08 so I don't really need high refresh
I do kinda regret not getting a 3080 but they're impossible anyway
& expensive
I updated the bios on my board to support agesa 1.2.0.2 and now it looks like not only am I stable at 1933 fclk but I'm also able to tighten my primary timings more. Still testing but I'm down to 14-15-11-12-30. I'll post up my final results later but this is looking pretty sweet so I had to share.
did you actually test that it offers more performance than 1900
I'm on agesa 1.2.0.3 b and 1900 fclk performs better than 1933 for me
I'll get to that, I'm still working on the overclock. I can't just copy my old settings on this board, it fails to boot.
As it is it's an improvement from before. No more whea at 1933. 1966 is still bad though.
how oc r5 3600
Enable precision boost overdrive (pbo) in the bios is your best bet and pretty easy too
can i safely overcloak a laptop?
Most laptops wont even overclock, a handful of gaming laptops will let you overclock tho so it depends
I'm testing +300 on core rn
Prolly high to start ofd
But I've gone up by a bit more before before I knew much about ocing
Aaaaand timespy crashed
Well then
Guess I'll start slowly at +50
even +50 on thwe core made timespy crash
after a while but it did
send a pic of afterburner?
im playing mc now i closed both
i can show you what i had the settings at if you want
up the power limit to max, might as well
power limit wasnt the issue idt
otherwise my pc woulda shut off
750w psu so not the issue either
wat
power limit is just how much the GPU chooses to pull
yeah ik
it's not like over power protection
i mean its not the reason it crashed
it might just need a bit more power
Not enough power to maintain the clock can still cause it to crash
doesn't hurt to up the pl
alr ill try it later
Trying it now
So I found out where it crashes
It goes through the whole thing fine
But instead of showing the results it just closes
So it didn't crash earlier that happened ^^
Should I Uninstall reinstall?
@dull ginkgo
pull the power limit in afterburner all the way to the right
try repair the game in steam if you think something is wrong but what are you left with after it crashes?
Nothing comes up
I reinstalled and running it with 50 on core mow
Now*
okay
was the game corrupted when downloaded or?
would yall say OCing a 5900x would be worth it? im not sure. it would have a 360mm rad backing it up yet, either EK AIO or Lian Lia Galahad.
Shouldn't have been but idk
cause i feel like it would just run the 5900x very hard it it would die in like 3 years
Didn't crash this time
12030 for graphics
With 50 on core and 104 on power
So go up to 100 now?
Traditional ocing on ryzen is pointless but using curve optimizer and pbo is the way to go and will be handled nicely by a 360 ek or Galahad
Try 100, if not try 75
what makes it pointless?
Pbo is just god tier
Half way through it at 100
what is pbo? i dont know about OCing overall really.
Pbo just performs better than a manual oc
It's not really pointless, it's just hard to do better than pbo
It's precision boost overdrive
Unless you know what you're doing, pbo will get you better results
Okay well yeah it takes a pretty good overclock to beat pbo
whats the difference?
so pbo is automatic ocing pretting much
Yeah kinda but you can tweak it to make it boost better too
Yep
Kk
So if I can go up to like 300 on my core, is that considered a good bin?
And in the future for when I oc, should i do it slowly like I am now or can I go up to around what the max I get is?
12360
I don't have one, but 3070s don't seem to go above 150 stabile so idk
Testing it at 200 now
Good luck
Doesn't seem to be any artifacting so far or anything
Seems like 150 will be my limit
Error occurred
Still pretty close to a 3070
Oh I didn't know mem affected this
A good amount yes
Oh cool
What's a good number to start on the mem?
I'm guessing it's different from mining lol
I'd try 900 and start from there
Kk
Increments of 50 until crash then you can drop 25 see if it's stable
Cool thanks
Np
I'll leave core at 150, just bc it'll be my card for around 3 years at least
I'd rather keep it under its limit
Prolly won't oc till I play games that need it to run ultra settings
Just curious
It's fine to daily 25 under crash tbh but fair enough
Why would you want worse performance? Ocing your gpu is very hard to make it harmful for your gpu
I thought longterm it'll lower life span?
Nah
Save it to a profile
Ahh
Was gonna have to run again anyways with the higher power limit
Yeah you can't alt tab
Once you open timespy test take your hands away from the keyboard lol
Yeah i haven't even been at my pc for most of them lol
Just came back to up power limit
Oh btwv
My card came from a pre build
Can I still register the warranty on it?
I dont see why not
What's your fan curve?
Keep upping 50 til crash then
I went to 1000 which was fine, also I just put it to 80 to be safe before that run
Got 12706
Gonna by by 50 for the rest
Just use your fan curve/set your own if the stock one is bleh
I set it to 100 since core was getting up to 66
Also 12687 so it's officially passed the average 3070 with 150 core, 104 power limit, 1050 mem
66 is perfectly fine temp wise, anything under 80c is a okay
I thought the vram Temps would be too high?
Nah you're fine that's only if you would be mining at that temp because it only uses vram and hardly used gpu core
Np
Try 1100 then
Wait I thought I did oops
12758 ima go back to 1150 now and see what happens
Yeah error. 1100 is the max
Still, that's a decent bit over the average 3070
And 1754 over the average 3060 ti
This is why I don't use mac
Idk if I'd say decent but not over average 3070, about 13000-13500 is avg 3070 but close yeah
Looks fine to me, what's the issue?
With the link you gave me I was like 40 over the average 3070
Make sure you have the drop-down on the side set as graphics only and not overall score
my 3070 gets 15330 lol
3070M laptop gets 11776
oced or base?
i meant the base 3070 and i was also looking at the wrong thing lol
you're approaching it but wouldn't say beating it
yeah ik
my laptop approaches stock desktop 3060ti
i was looking at overall score not gpu
fair
average 3060 ti not oc is 11004
overall score is quite useless
yeah pato corrected me
can inflate scores with better cpu
i didnt realize i had to change it
looks like my 3070 would be 54th place
wow
however i'm disqualified from the 3070 leaderboard
cause it's just showing my 3080 as my entry instead
rip
if you want to up your time spy score then manual oc your ram
subtimings help
meaning?
there are more timings than cl
how do i check?
idk if this helps
zentimings
3600 18-20-20-40 sounds like a bad bin
but even a bad bin benefits from tightening subtimings
its hp ram lol
you might be able to get 3733-3800 on the same primary timings as well
by upping vdimm
but
i wouldn't do that until you figure out which IC it is
since some of the worst ICs scale negatively and/or degrade above 1.35v
was either this or 3000mhz oloy i believe cl18
ima be honest
i have no clue what any of that means
other than the degrading part and voltage
thaiphoon burner has a decent chance of telling you what the IC is
it tells me that this kit is micron rev. e
which i already knew cause this kit is always micron rev. e
maybe yours will be hynix afr or samsung c-die
anyways ram oc is more trouble than it's worth for most people
ill download it in a moment
but if you really want to increase that timespy score it can help
though of course it helps general gaming performance too
if it didn't i wouldn't have spent like 3 weeks doing it
i can never go back to xmp
how much would it decrease the life span of the ram do you think?
alr ty
don't pump 1.8v into it
alr 2v got it
safe voltage depends on which IC
i daily 1.524v on rev. e but can go up to 1.6v safely
higher voltages not always better
ik just joking lol
usually for people pushing higher voltages they will strap on a fan on top of their ram
not going to apply to you though
yeah i might just leave it for now
3600c18 bin kit
if it's not one of the kits that starts to scale negatively after 1.35v
it probably won't gain any further benefit going beyond 1.45v
idk i got it for 40$ off reddit lmao
i spent 85 on mine
thats where i got mine
skytech screwed me
my 1200$ pre build went to over 1800 from just tryna replace mobo
psu wasnt what it was supposed to be
case was made to only fit that mobo
perhaps
i am at 4.8ghz all core tho
Use hwinfo 64 to read the clocks
how are you still awake
hey @zenith palm ik you said amd oc is trash but is 1.3000 voltage fine overide mode?
4.2ghz
Well not trash but usually pbo is better, iirc only up to 1.25v is safe on Ryzen but ask someone else on that i could be wrong
alr
@nocturne sailyone lol
oh sorry
to an
whoever that is
also one more thing @zenith palm when I put in the core voltage it says 1.2250
not 1.225
thats fine right
it's the same thing
also keep in mind vdroop and such, software will report slightly different voltage
Any idea why my CB score would drop from just north of 17k to just over 15k? Cores degrading already? lol 10900K btw
VROUT is >1.35v tho
btw how do you determine core preference on 10900Ks? like AMD tells you which is best-worst
Degradation would cause you to become unstable at voltage/freq, wouldn't degrade your score (with static clocks)
Best guess: tasks running on your OS. I get a bit of a bump in cinebench if I run in safe mode, or on a fresh OS, compared to my daily OS (where I have games, discord, launchers, etc. running)
ah okay thanks
I was thinking of attempting per core offset on 10900K to see if I can squeeze a little more out of it. Does Intel tell you which core is best to worst like AMD does?
rn I'm running single-core CB 23 to see which cores the system assigns (assuming it would choose best ones)
1.35? that's insane
per core sucks
wait jk 1.305
still pretty high but eh
The cores only have one clock gen, so they all have to clock at the same speed
So per core is just per core boost
ya? on 10900K?
if you set lets say 4 cores to 5.2ghz and the rest to 5.1ghz, those cores will go to 5.2ghz when the other 4 are disabled
Which the intel scheduler is useless at
ohh so it's not possible to run different ratios on different core simultaneously?
it's not
not a thing
If I only set voltage, it won't just apply constant voltage & each processor will clock accordingly... how does it do single core then? lol
oh wait I think I get it. I can set like 53 if only 2 in use; 52 if 4; etc
I changed core ratio to auto, set voltage to constant, & changed max to 53 so I let the voltage dictate the max ratio
well in theory who knows
what do you mean?
Like it'll automatically set the highest clock possible at that voltage
is that a thing? lol
so after ocing ram, on boot the pc recognizes usb devices, then when windows starts it drops all usb devices for a couple seconds and i get like 30 wheas, then usb devices reconnect and everything is normal after that
ram oc is completely stable and there are no performance issues
any way i can make the first thing go away 
no wheas after the initial burst at log in
Im on 4.4ghz
I ran multicore and single core
max temps are shown above
do yall think I can go higher?
Use PBO
PBO with Curve Optimizer gets you the best outcome on those Ryzens
Let PBO decide voltage
I was only able to get 4.6 on my 5900x but other claim they can do 5.0 all core
but PBO gives you the best of both worlds because it'll boost your single-core & multi-core
Cinebench stable isnt stable
You can pass cinebench and get a score and crash while launching a game
lmao
Cinebench for oc stress testing is garbage
temps were really low though
Doesnt matter
kk
get HWiNFO so you can see which are the best cores then do curve optimizer
wats curve optimizer
AMD's overclocking
You can either get Ryzen Master (which I personally do not like at all & is very very hard to uninstall) or in BIOS (for me) under Advanced there are three options that say AMD. I forget the names I know the top one is like PBS or something
hold on let me restart & I'll tell you
well frist, which board do you have?
First change the OC settings you put in back to Auto (leave XMP) then go to Advanced>AMD Overclocking>Accept>Precision Boost Overdrivechange Precision Boost Overdrive to Advanced>
PBO limits you can mess with if you want. They affect thermals but for now it's easier to just put motherboard
then go to Curve Optimizer and change all the offsets to negative then on your best 2 cores put like -20, then -15 for the next 2 best then -10 for your worst 2 cores
some people like to do the Max CPU boost clock override after they mess with offsets but I'd at least start with 100mHz
uhhh
