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south sky Jun 27, 2021, 5:14 AM

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In what?

short blade Jun 27, 2021, 5:14 AM

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Intel mlc

proven laurel Jun 27, 2021, 5:14 AM

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I use the MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk and apparently on that board "Game Mode" locks the CPU into a 600MHz overclock

modern walrus Jun 27, 2021, 5:14 AM

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Even stranger, when I ran CB R23 at "Default" on Ryzen Master (PBO settings enabled on MB, which I think Master must have overridden once Auto-OC selected) it says max 5150

short blade Jun 27, 2021, 5:14 AM

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the window just closed and I'm not sure if it just finished and closed itself or it crashed

south sky Jun 27, 2021, 5:14 AM

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short blade Intel mlc

Do the write test

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It closes it's self when finished

short blade Jun 27, 2021, 5:15 AM

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gotcha I'll put it in a batch file so it doesn't close automatically

south sky Jun 27, 2021, 5:15 AM

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But yeah can't use aida since the latency test is reads (also not that useful pulling like 2.5GB/s)

modern walrus Jun 27, 2021, 5:15 AM

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Buuuttt CB scores at Default, Auto-OC, & game mode respectively: 21463; 21485; & TBA (3:30 left)

short blade Jun 27, 2021, 5:16 AM

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what program is that?

south sky Jun 27, 2021, 5:16 AM

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That's a profile of aida

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Using Intel VTune

short blade Jun 27, 2021, 5:16 AM

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I see

south sky Jun 27, 2021, 5:16 AM

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But yeah, dark blue is write, lighter blue is read

modern walrus Jun 27, 2021, 5:17 AM

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Th other thing that's probably not good is Game Mode is showing an average core voltage of 1.422, which exceeds the 1.2 degradation voltage I learned in here

short blade Jun 27, 2021, 5:18 AM

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so here is the result with 14 tCWL stable profile

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now to try 9

modern walrus Jun 27, 2021, 5:19 AM

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and that voltage is consistent with SVI2

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on HWiNFO

south sky Jun 27, 2021, 5:20 AM

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short blade so here is the result with 14 tCWL stable profile

Using read-only traffic type

short blade Jun 27, 2021, 5:20 AM

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how do I change that

modern walrus Jun 27, 2021, 5:20 AM

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whoa y'all called it, 11254 CB down over 10k! wth

short blade Jun 27, 2021, 5:21 AM

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command line argument?

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I might be dumb but none of the provided command lines look like they'll change that

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anyways tCWL 9 finished but definitely looks like there were errors

south sky Jun 27, 2021, 5:23 AM

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-W6 I think

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should be 100% writes

short blade Jun 27, 2021, 5:23 AM

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let me try it

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well it didn't complain invalid argument that's a good sign

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it's still saying read-only

south sky Jun 27, 2021, 5:28 AM

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works for me

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short blade Jun 27, 2021, 5:31 AM

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documentation says you're right

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okay after adding the --loaded_latency argument it works

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tCWL 9

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tCWL 10

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tCWL 12

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and finally tCWL 14

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what do you make of those numbers @south sky ? i have no idea what inject delay is so it's hard for me to say which is the best

south sky Jun 27, 2021, 10:51 AM

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tCWL 9 looks the best but the variance is very high for some reason

zenith palm Jun 27, 2021, 11:00 AM

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Well should i try tcwl at 18 anyway as it crashed while running tm5 at 16, but i had just changed trfc from 630 to 600

south sky Jun 27, 2021, 11:32 AM

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16 should not be unstable

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raise trdwr

lavish tundra Jun 27, 2021, 11:34 AM

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arshia suggested changing those values

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but changing em gives errors

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any other values I need to change beforehand?

short blade Jun 27, 2021, 2:49 PM

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south sky tCWL 9 looks the best but the variance is very high for some reason

yeah the high variance confused me as well maybe i should run more tests

wooden sail Jun 28, 2021, 5:49 AM

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how high can you typically get memory clock? for gpu

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for 30 series cards, i guess how high is too high i wouldnt wanna mess anything up lol

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 5:51 AM

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how does this look and what can I improve?

lavish tundra Jun 28, 2021, 6:04 AM

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pseudo hull how does this look and what can I improve?

dont increase the core voltage. go +50 on core till crash

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then go back to the last good value

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try +25

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if that works use it otherwise stick to the last good value

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same for mem

wooden sail Jun 28, 2021, 6:05 AM

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lavish tundra same for mem

question on the mem, i was doing that last night to my 3070ti and it was stable up to +1700 i think, is that normal?

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it seems too high but i could be wrong lol

lavish tundra Jun 28, 2021, 6:07 AM

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if its stable its fine

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dw about it

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as long as your voltages are safe

wooden sail Jun 28, 2021, 6:08 AM

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ok cool, how do you monitor that

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lavish tundra Jun 28, 2021, 6:08 AM

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monitor what?

wooden sail Jun 28, 2021, 6:08 AM

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voltages

lavish tundra Jun 28, 2021, 6:09 AM

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did you raise them over stock?

wooden sail Jun 28, 2021, 6:09 AM

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well how do you make sure theyre safe, just dont mess with voltage or?

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 6:09 AM

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is buying the full 3dmark worth it?

lavish tundra Jun 28, 2021, 6:09 AM

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pseudo hull is buying the full 3dmark worth it?

nah not really

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demo has firestrike and timespy

lavish tundra Jun 28, 2021, 6:10 AM

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wooden sail well how do you make sure theyre safe, just dont mess with voltage or?

dont mess with em imo

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 6:10 AM

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is is 85% off so $5 Imma get it I think

lavish tundra Jun 28, 2021, 6:13 AM

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if you need it sure but theres really no need imo

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 6:13 AM

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I guess I won't get it if it is probably pointless for me

modern walrus Jun 28, 2021, 8:46 AM

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Two more delta fans. Vroom vroom

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It sounds ridiculous in here

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There's like an EF-1 in my case rn

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Maybe I should swap the front intake fans too. Does delta make 200mms?

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I could run two plugs out of the case & connect some 200s at 120v. 370cfm lol

zenith palm Jun 28, 2021, 9:12 AM

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wooden sail question on the mem, i was doing that last night to my 3070ti and it was stable ...

When you get that high use 3d mark timespy to bench, haven is too light

zenith palm Jun 28, 2021, 9:12 AM

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wooden sail voltages

Just don't touch the voltages unless you are undervolting

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And then it's a graph not set voltage

lavish tundra Jun 28, 2021, 9:28 AM

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zenith palm When you get that high use 3d mark timespy to bench, haven is too light

Nah heaven is heavier mate

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from experiance

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My extreme OC profile hangs on heaven

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works flawlessly on timespy

zenith palm Jun 28, 2021, 9:30 AM

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lavish tundra My extreme OC profile hangs on heaven

What? Nahhh heaven is just an easy one you can use and on the fly oc

lavish tundra Jun 28, 2021, 9:30 AM

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zenith palm What? Nahhh heaven is just an easy one you can use and on the fly oc

My card disagrees

tall pelican Jun 28, 2021, 9:39 AM

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lavish tundra My extreme OC profile hangs on heaven

If you're on nvidia, ts will pl throttle down more than heaven because heaven is lighter

lavish tundra Jun 28, 2021, 10:36 AM

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tall pelican If you're on nvidia, ts will pl throttle down more than heaven because heaven is...

Im on amd

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rx570

south sky Jun 28, 2021, 10:53 AM

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still holds true

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@lavish tundra

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all cards that have power limits it applies to

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(that hit the power limits)

lavish tundra Jun 28, 2021, 10:54 AM

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i see

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that makes sense

south sky Jun 28, 2021, 10:55 AM

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if you don't have anything limiting clocks but you are getting that, well that's weird

lavish tundra Jun 28, 2021, 10:56 AM

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Ill test that out with hwinfo and let ya know

primal nest Jun 28, 2021, 3:38 PM

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guys i put XPM on profile 1 in the BIOS but still when i start my PC and open the task manger it shows that my RAM speed is 1600 while in BIOS is shows 3200

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is there any other setting i should do to make my RAM run on 3200?

south sky Jun 28, 2021, 3:45 PM

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primal nest guys i put XPM on profile 1 in the BIOS but still when i start my PC and open th...

Check what it says with CPU-z

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it likely is at 3200mt/s which is the same as 1600mhz

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DDR stands for double data rate meaning there are two data transfers per clock

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so 3200 xmp ram is technically 1600mhz

primal nest Jun 28, 2021, 4:14 PM

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south sky Check what it says with CPU-z

@south sky CPU-Z says the same as task maneger

south sky Jun 28, 2021, 4:14 PM

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good

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then your ram is at 3200

primal nest Jun 28, 2021, 4:15 PM

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it's 1600 MHs

south sky Jun 28, 2021, 4:16 PM

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CPU-z reports the correct speed

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ram manufacturers ratings for memory technically aren't correct

tall pelican Jun 28, 2021, 4:16 PM

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damn, 1600MHs is some nice ram, generally its MHz, which is 3200 speed ram

primal nest Jun 28, 2021, 4:17 PM

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tall pelican Jun 28, 2021, 4:17 PM

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you're at 3200

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1600 x2 (ddr4 being dual data rate) = 3200

primal nest Jun 28, 2021, 4:17 PM

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kk thanks guys

proven canopy Jun 28, 2021, 4:36 PM

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modern walrus There's like an EF-1 in my case rn

Haha those motors are more like 750w

latent wolf Jun 28, 2021, 6:01 PM

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How would I go about Overclocking a RX-5500XT just to get a little better performance out of it

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 6:01 PM

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where is a good place to start learning the basics of ocing my cpu

latent wolf Jun 28, 2021, 6:02 PM

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@pseudo hull See Pins in the channel there is a OC guide for Zen

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More like a chart of tested settings. Its helped me when I had my R5 2600X

zenith palm Jun 28, 2021, 6:37 PM

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pseudo hull where is a good place to start learning the basics of ocing my cpu

For a 5600x just do manual pbo settings

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And/or there's a curve customiser thing

faint tangle Jun 28, 2021, 6:42 PM

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latent wolf How would I go about Overclocking a RX-5500XT just to get a little better perfor...

Msi afterburner is easy to use

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 6:42 PM

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zenith palm For a 5600x just do manual pbo settings

does pbo stand for something I haven't found that

faint tangle Jun 28, 2021, 6:43 PM

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For gaming the core clock is more important than memory, so its better to oc that if I'm correct. Just make sure you have a good psu and extra power to use for overclockimg, so you don't fry your pc

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And that it doesn't overheat

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 6:43 PM

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I am gonna wait till I get my extra fans that come today

faint tangle Jun 28, 2021, 6:44 PM

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pseudo hull I am gonna wait till I get my extra fans that come today

What temp does your cpu run at ?

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 6:45 PM

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faint tangle What temp does your cpu run at ?

37 with discord and ryzen master

faint tangle Jun 28, 2021, 6:46 PM

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Ryzen master isn't good to use for ocing I've heard

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You should use bios

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Also I meant under full load, or atleast under a good bit, so gaming or something along those lines

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 6:47 PM

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I'll run cinebench

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81 with muticore cinebentch

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with auto oc

faint tangle Jun 28, 2021, 6:50 PM

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What cooler are you using?

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 6:50 PM

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fuma 2

faint tangle Jun 28, 2021, 6:52 PM

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Yeah it def shouldn't be running that hot, do you have any case fans next to it? If so make sure you don't have them going the wrong way (intake vs outtake), I did that and my 3600 was getting like 87 bc of it

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Fixed it and it dropped to around 70

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 6:52 PM

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faint tangle Jun 28, 2021, 6:53 PM

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You'd have to ask in #old-cooling that I forget which way they're supposed to go

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Coofor?

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Tf happened there

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 6:53 PM

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I have the 4000d airflow with the two included fans

faint tangle Jun 28, 2021, 6:53 PM

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There we fo

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Wow I cannot type

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Yeah I'd definitely wait for your fans before ocing

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 6:53 PM

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they are going the right way

faint tangle Jun 28, 2021, 6:54 PM

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And check Temps then before ocing too

zenith palm Jun 28, 2021, 6:54 PM

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pseudo hull does pbo stand for something I haven't found that

Precision boost overdrive is pbo

zenith palm Jun 28, 2021, 6:55 PM

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pseudo hull with auto oc

Auto oc is worse than pbo btw

zenith palm Jun 28, 2021, 6:56 PM

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faint tangle Yeah it def shouldn't be running that hot, do you have any case fans next to it?...

Sounds right, 5000 series is v toasty

faint tangle Jun 28, 2021, 6:56 PM

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zenith palm Sounds right, 5000 series is v toasty

5600x is supposed to be the low power usage one tho

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And with the fuma 2

zenith palm Jun 28, 2021, 6:57 PM

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faint tangle 5600x is supposed to be the low power usage one tho

All 5000 series are v hot

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 6:57 PM

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which of the options

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 6:59 PM

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pseudo hull

@zenith palm

zenith palm Jun 28, 2021, 7:03 PM

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If you go advanced you can set some sub options for pbo

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 7:04 PM

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yes that is what I have shown

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that drop down witch do I use?

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 7:05 PM

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pseudo hull that drop down witch do I use?

@zenith palm

zenith palm Jun 28, 2021, 7:06 PM

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Advanced

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 7:07 PM

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is there anything else to change here?

zenith palm Jun 28, 2021, 7:07 PM

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Try set limits to advanced too

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 7:08 PM

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should I do motherboard?

zenith palm Jun 28, 2021, 7:13 PM

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I would do manual if ya wanna push it get max perf, if not do mobo

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 7:14 PM

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zenith palm I would do manual if ya wanna push it get max perf, if not do mobo

imma do mobo

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Should I change this?

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Or this?

zenith palm Jun 28, 2021, 7:17 PM

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Ehh +200 probs, wait what mobo is it?

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Ehh the throttle limit is probs fine auto can't remember off top of head

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 7:18 PM

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prime b550a-ac

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 7:19 PM

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zenith palm Ehh +200 probs, wait what mobo is it?

is 200 good for my mobo

zenith palm Jun 28, 2021, 7:19 PM

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It can probs do 200, sometimes 150 etc or something performs better tho iirc

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 7:20 PM

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zenith palm It can probs do 200, sometimes 150 etc or something performs better tho iirc

how about 175?

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split the difference

zenith palm Jun 28, 2021, 7:20 PM

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Honestly you're gonna have to test +100 and then go up

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If your perf drops go back a step

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 7:20 PM

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ok

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is this good to test now?

zenith palm Jun 28, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Ye, then go back and change the + number up/down and see what performs best

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 7:23 PM

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ok

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This isn't going to affect it right?

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or should I click reset?

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@zenith palm

lavish tundra Jun 28, 2021, 7:30 PM

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nope

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default is whats set in bios

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@pseudo hull

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as long as PBO is enabled in bios ur good

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 7:31 PM

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ok

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I

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am running a multi core cinebench test

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in the muti core test my speed isn't going above 4300

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ish

lavish tundra Jun 28, 2021, 7:41 PM

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pseudo hull in the muti core test my speed isn't going above 4300

R20?

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or R23

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 7:41 PM

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23

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I got 10784

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ok single core it is boosting to 4.748

faint tangle Jun 28, 2021, 7:50 PM

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debating if its worth overclocking my 3600 with a 3060 ti

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with my ram at 3600 its been performing as it should, not having issues streaming warzone anymore like it was before

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 7:51 PM

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will you have fun or are you not happy with your preformance?

faint tangle Jun 28, 2021, 7:52 PM

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idk, with it running as it should im happy but if itd be worth it i wouldnt mind doing it

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also interested in how itd perform

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 7:53 PM

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I mean I am doing it cause it is fun for me but it is up to you if you want to put some hours in

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at 4.748 boost clock my cpu is siting around 56

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how is this oc?

dull ginkgo Jun 28, 2021, 8:08 PM

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looks kinda average or maybe even below average

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 8:08 PM

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really on the single core it was boosted to 4.75

dull ginkgo Jun 28, 2021, 8:10 PM

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so?

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 8:11 PM

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that is .15 higher than the advertised boost speed and I haven't really manually done anything just done the basic stufff

dull ginkgo Jun 28, 2021, 8:12 PM

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cpumonkey is saying 1572 for r23 single core, and 11268 for multi core for 5600x

pseudo hull Jun 28, 2021, 8:13 PM

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when I done with this 3dmark I'll make sure my ram is runing full speed

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 12:32 AM

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latent wolf Jun 29, 2021, 12:45 AM

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@faint tangle I forgot I could do it from the Radeon Software and did it that way. Thank You though. MSI afterburner works really well for Nvidia cards since AMD has included their own OC utility in the Software Package

faint tangle Jun 29, 2021, 12:48 AM

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latent wolf <@!654444344274845698> I forgot I could do it from the Radeon Software and did ...

didnt know amd had that, glad you got it working

latent wolf Jun 29, 2021, 12:49 AM

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Yeah Its been something they added for the RX cards

faint tangle Jun 29, 2021, 12:51 AM

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yeah idk too much about amd gpus, i prefer nvidia

latent wolf Jun 29, 2021, 12:51 AM

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I prefer AMD

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@faint tangle ^^^^^^^^^

upper rock Jun 29, 2021, 12:52 AM

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I've used both, I prefer Nvidia

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AMD certainly is better for some people tho

tall pelican Jun 29, 2021, 12:53 AM

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I've used both, amd gives much better control over everything

latent wolf Jun 29, 2021, 12:53 AM

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Yeah and it seems to work better when Both CPU and GPU are AMD cause the OC tools kinda work with eachother

tall pelican Jun 29, 2021, 12:53 AM

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the oc tools dont work with each other though

latent wolf Jun 29, 2021, 12:54 AM

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I though Ryzen Master and the GPU tuning did.

tall pelican Jun 29, 2021, 12:54 AM

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1: ryzen master and radeon drivers dont communicate with each other
2: you shouldnt use ryzen master to overclock a cpu

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this is the only part that somewhat communicates with each other

latent wolf Jun 29, 2021, 12:59 AM

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Ok maybe thats what I was thinking of then. But yeah Ryzen Master Sucks for OC its better anyway from the BIOS

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 1:37 AM

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When I do PBO on 5900x then try to set RAM clock, it doesn't POST

tall pelican Jun 29, 2021, 1:40 AM

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what clock are you trying to set?

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 1:50 AM

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the default 3800

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everything else on auto

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by default I mean the speed the RAM says it is

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I have to do CMOS reset everytime

tall pelican Jun 29, 2021, 1:56 AM

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does it post at the right clocks with pbo disabled?

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 1:56 AM

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hmm I don't know I'll have to try that

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I think also the auto-overclock on Ryzen master messes it up

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but I had to reinstall Ryzen master because I was only showing 6 cores on HWiNFO

tall pelican Jun 29, 2021, 1:57 AM

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modern walrus I think also the auto-overclock on Ryzen master messes it up

this most likely

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 1:59 AM

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okay I'll have to figure out how to uninstall master and still show all cores on HWiNFO

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I couldn't figure out why I got about half my usual score on CB then I realized there were only 6 cores showing

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I wonder if ASUS RamCache III is to blame

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I'm gonna uninstall that junk too

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I ended up using one of those extender wires that you usually connect to the reset switch when it's used as a RGB control. I attached it to the clear CMOS header so it's easier to clear

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I'm gonna try 3200 first since that's officially supported or somethign I think

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no POST

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I miss the simplicity of manual OC on 10900K

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okay I changed autoclock mode to like CPOC or something and now it seems to be working

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but HWiNFO is showing 1900mHz for Memory clock

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heck

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man I really want to all core OC but this processor isn't good over 1.2v if I remember you saying

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 2:47 AM

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Why does voltage matter if temps are fine. CPU Core voltage (SV12 TFN) shows 1.231 but my max temp is 71 degrees on CB23

south sky Jun 29, 2021, 3:11 AM

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modern walrus Why does voltage matter if temps are fine. CPU Core voltage (SV12 TFN) shows 1.2...

Because temps are the only driving factor in degradation. Voltage and current alone can have big impacts

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Too much voltage can allow the current to blow straight through the gate oxide

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Whilst too many electrons can literally break the material in the chips

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 3:11 AM

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Ah okay

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So 1.2 is the highest then? Lame lol

south sky Jun 29, 2021, 3:13 AM

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what cpu?

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It's better to just go off current

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See what current you get with PBO and stuff and match that if you want to be safe

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If you want to be bold you can go over that

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But that's your choice

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 3:31 AM

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5900x

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Thanks for answering btw

short blade Jun 29, 2021, 5:07 AM

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how does boost clock override work with zen 3 and curve optimizer?

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i have it set to 200 but i'm getting boosts 350mhz higher than boost clock

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but some people claim they are getting the same speed with +100 and better stability

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it's confusing me what it actually does

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it was very straightforward on zen 2... set +200 get up to +200 period

south sky Jun 29, 2021, 5:11 AM

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short blade i have it set to 200 but i'm getting boosts 350mhz higher than boost clock

it raises the Fmax which is the maximum clock the cpu can go to, what chip?

short blade Jun 29, 2021, 5:11 AM

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5800x

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boost clock 4.7

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i'm seeing 5.05

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another person said their 5800x hits 5.05 with +100 override

south sky Jun 29, 2021, 5:11 AM

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that's because the 5800x boosts to 4.85ghz stock

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AMD just claims lower so people see it

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Stock max clock for the 5800x is 4.85ghz

short blade Jun 29, 2021, 5:12 AM

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hmm i see

south sky Jun 29, 2021, 5:12 AM

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short blade another person said their 5800x hits 5.05 with +100 override

Well they are wrong or lying

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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x/21.html here is proof

TechPowerUp

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Review

The AMD Ryzen 7 5800X is built using just one CCD, which eliminates a lot of latencies and bottlencks in the multi-core topology. We also saw it boost close to 5 GHz regularly, out of the box, without any overclocking. This one-two-punch combination helped it beat the 5900X in gaming and several other tests.

short blade Jun 29, 2021, 5:12 AM

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so i should just leave mine at +200?

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i have a stable curve at +200

south sky Jun 29, 2021, 5:13 AM

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what ever works

short blade Jun 29, 2021, 5:13 AM

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Core 0: +2
Core 1: -19
Core 2: -25
Core 3: -15
Core 4: -27
Core 5: -16
Core 6: -21
Core 7: -19

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also i was told that using LLC with CO is a bad idea

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i just left it on auto and it set level 3 which is the middle for asrock board

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i'm seeing maximum 1.488v with around 1.25v at full load

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should be ok?

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i really don't want to have to redo my curve it's really annoying to test stability for curve

south sky Jun 29, 2021, 5:15 AM

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it's ok

south sky Jun 29, 2021, 5:15 AM

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short blade also i was told that using LLC with CO is a bad idea

yeah the chip accounts for it, so you just get worse transients

short blade Jun 29, 2021, 5:16 AM

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transients? so like higher voltage spikes?

south sky Jun 29, 2021, 5:16 AM

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and lower dips

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spikes aren't usually relevant

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only matters on OEM garbo

short blade Jun 29, 2021, 5:16 AM

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all cores show maximum of 1.488v on hwinfo after 72 straight hours of benching

south sky Jun 29, 2021, 5:16 AM

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sweet

short blade Jun 29, 2021, 5:16 AM

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it's single core benches so it's not hitting 1.488v all core

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that would be quite a problem

south sky Jun 29, 2021, 5:17 AM

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Intel rates their chips to 1.92v transisents which just shows how much transisents don't matter

short blade Jun 29, 2021, 5:17 AM

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1.92

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wow

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alright so i'm good then

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thanks for all the help

south sky Jun 29, 2021, 5:18 AM

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yeah 1.92v virus mode and 1.79v TDP

short blade Jun 29, 2021, 5:18 AM

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i still need to tighten tCWL but i am currently 400 miles away and teamviewer does not work in bios lol

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...would asus memtweakit work?

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maybe i should try it

south sky Jun 29, 2021, 5:19 AM

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1.92v!

south sky Jun 29, 2021, 5:19 AM

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short blade i still need to tighten tCWL but i am currently 400 miles away and teamviewer do...

no

short blade Jun 29, 2021, 5:20 AM

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that high on laptop cpu?

south sky Jun 29, 2021, 5:20 AM

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it's for both s and h line

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u line only 1.72v

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virus mode is intels name for above tdp

short blade Jun 29, 2021, 5:22 AM

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hmm

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this is the highest voltage ive seen

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 6:48 PM

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My 5900x 3D Mark score (w/ RTX3070 OC at mem:8176MHz/clock:1815MHz) with PBO is mediocre. It's like 150 pts more than my 51/48 10900K w/ RTX3060 (OC also). Why tho?

tall pelican Jun 29, 2021, 7:18 PM

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pbo?

upper rock Jun 29, 2021, 7:41 PM

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Precision boost overclock?

dull ginkgo Jun 29, 2021, 7:45 PM

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I think fitz is asking for pbo settings

upper rock Jun 29, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Oh lol

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 9:16 PM

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CPU Score

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5900x was way higher w/ 45.3 AC than PBO

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I must be doing something wrong

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rather 46.3 all core

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I'm gonna try PBO again

zenith palm Jun 29, 2021, 9:17 PM

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What pbo settings you running?

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 9:18 PM

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I had it at advanced +200mhz

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I have to run Ai OC Tuner at DOCP or it won't run the RAM at 3800

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it'll be stuck at 2666 or something like that & if I change it, it won't POST

tall pelican Jun 29, 2021, 9:20 PM

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your memory is un 2:1 mode

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tried like 1.15 soc, 1.0 vddp, 1.05 vddg ccd/iod?

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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I'm sorry, but in all honesty I don't really know what that means

tall pelican Jun 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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imc volts

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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for RAM?

tall pelican Jun 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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yeah

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Sorry man I know it's frustrating to try to help someone clueless

tall pelican Jun 29, 2021, 9:22 PM

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or wait

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your memory clock is at 3800 (1900), fclk is at 1800

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Everything else is auto

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If it lets me upload 6 pictures

tall pelican Jun 29, 2021, 9:27 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/610602203849162772/859545328486187018/20210629_172252.jpg on this page, vddcr soc to 1.15, vddg ccd and vddg iod to 1.05, cldo vddp to 1.0

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 9:28 PM

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If I do this it won't POST & will need clear CMOS

tall pelican Jun 29, 2021, 9:28 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/610602203849162772/859545327850094642/20210629_172219.jpg fclk to 1900

tall pelican Jun 29, 2021, 9:29 PM

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modern walrus

on here, you have memory clock at 3800 already

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 9:29 PM

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modern walrus If I do this it won't POST & will need clear CMOS

Well yeah, you can't just set the frequency you need to enable XMP (docp on Asus)

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That sets voltages and timings to match

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 9:30 PM

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I changed the settings from the all core 46.3 so those numbers reflect that

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Let's see if that posts

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Okay it POSTed

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HWiNFO shows 1900 mem clock which I assume means 3800/2

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Rn all cores are showing 44.8 ratio. Weak

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Well maximum on two cores is 48.5

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I guess RAM is okay but pretty blah performance from the CPU

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Maybe CB isn't the greatest way to measure performance?

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3.-7. are all this computer at different settings

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The problem with those settings tho is that just about all of them run at 1.26-1.28v which to my understanding, is too high

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 9:41 PM

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If that's the voltage under load it's a tad high yes, but as an idle voltage it's fine

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 9:42 PM

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that's under load

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level 3 LLC if I remember correctly

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4.67 & 4.7 made it through CB but on AMD64 OCCT stress test caused reboot

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4.63 made it through OCCT AMD 64 1 hour. Max temp was 77.4 if I remember right

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prime95 would probably murder it

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So I'm back to auto everything & PBO +200

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 9:45 PM

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I do pbo offset as the last thing, maxing that out isn't always best depending on how your bin is

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 9:45 PM

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except for the voltages Fitz told me to put in

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 9:46 PM

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Putting more voltage into the SoC will introduce a little more heat to the CPU, keep that in mind too

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 9:47 PM

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I mean aside from maybe a higher litre/minute pump I don't think I can do much better cooling wise

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2 360s & 1 140 rad

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I'm down about 250 points on CB

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 9:47 PM

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Yeah that's no concern in your case then

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 9:48 PM

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okay let me find where to put offset

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 9:51 PM

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Personally what I do on the core voltage is set it to offset mode and let the motherboard decide what's best. I have a -0.0275v offset on my core which in my testing was the ideal balance between heat and performance. I hit over 5GHz on all core loads. I could probably go higher with a better cooler.
You'll have to test what works for you though. This is specific to my personal system and testing.

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 9:51 PM

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Do you have to set a ratio or it hits 5ghz on all core on its own?

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 9:52 PM

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That's pure PBO, no static settings

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I had to play with the curve optimizer too in order to get there

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 9:53 PM

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oh okay

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Says I can only do whole numbers

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 9:55 PM

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That's the curve optimizer

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It doesn't affect voltage

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 9:55 PM

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oh shoot I thought that's where I was supposed to go

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 9:56 PM

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I did -30 on my best cores and -15 or -20 on others

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Results may vary lol

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 9:57 PM

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modern walrus

On this screen you've got it on offset mode already but on auto so there's no change

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 9:57 PM

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man 10900K is sooo much easier

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and that's where I should try -.0275?

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It jumps to .03125 because the increments are .00625 apparently

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 9:58 PM

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You can start with that (or -0.025 if your motherboard doesn't like to narrow it down that far)

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My board allows very fine voltage control and I love it for that

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 9:59 PM

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ya this motherboard came with the RTX3060 from the shuffle

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in hindsight I'd put an AORUS board

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Well it POSTed. Let's see what HWiNFO says

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49.3 on two cores

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how do you make it do all core?

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:03 PM

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Make what do all core? Cinebench?

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:03 PM

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wait jk well here:

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How do you make PBO do all core?

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CB doesn't seem like a great way to test. I runs all the cores at the same ratio

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:06 PM

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PBO is all core but dynamic based on load

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Max effective clock is what you want to look at when doing CB

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:07 PM

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that's a dismal 4,396

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:08 PM

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Single core I'm guessing?

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:08 PM

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I'm running mult-core

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Single core it actually did great. Showed #1 on the list

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:09 PM

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Oh you're looking at the clock not the score I see now

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4396 MHz isn't that bad, but does leave room to improve

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Open up Ryzen Master

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:10 PM

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ya the score (I hope) will be at least 225xx+

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which it did w/ all core 4.55

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& basically every other all core

zenith palm Jun 29, 2021, 10:11 PM

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modern walrus which it did w/ all core 4.55

Was that at a safe voltage yeah?

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:11 PM

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haha I got rid of Ryzen Master cuz I thought it just made a mess

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:12 PM

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Ryzen Master will give a lot of useful info, I just don't use it to overclock with

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:12 PM

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well if safe is 1.200 then no. It was like 1.26-1.28ish

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I saved the profile in BIOS. I'll load it & tell you exactly

zenith palm Jun 29, 2021, 10:12 PM

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Iirc 1.25v and below is safe or 1.35v mb i can't remember actually lol

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:12 PM

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1.25v or so under load is good according to AMD, any higher and it gets iffy

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1.35v is Intel @zenith palm

zenith palm Jun 29, 2021, 10:13 PM

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Yeah 1.25v, 1.35v is some ram 🤦

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:13 PM

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I was going based off of SVI2

zenith palm Jun 29, 2021, 10:13 PM

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sudden torrent 1.35v is Intel <@!191276897227898880>

Ohh or that too

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:14 PM

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Isn't it better for gaming if it boosts to like 5.0+ on individual cores v. 4.625 all?

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:14 PM

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You're right about the RAM too though, a lot of dies won't scale past 1.35v

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:14 PM

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I emailed G.Skill & they told me 1.4 for this 32x2

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Wish the CAS was better than 18 tho

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:15 PM

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modern walrus Isn't it better for gaming if it boosts to like 5.0+ on individual cores v. 4.62...

Yes, games rely heavily on a single thread, depending on game possibly up to 4 threads

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:16 PM

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Ya that's what I understood from people telling me PBO is better just don't bother with all core

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:16 PM

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Once you load up Ryzen Master I can show you which cores are your "best" for the per-core curve optimizer, so the "best" cores will boost higher

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:17 PM

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That's all core 46.3 voltage is 1.225-1.231

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:18 PM

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The one with the star is the best overall, circles are above average

zenith palm Jun 29, 2021, 10:18 PM

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modern walrus I emailed G.Skill & they told me 1.4 for this 32x2

It depends on the die for ram but ye

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:18 PM

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It shows 1.281 for a fraction of a second

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:19 PM

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I'm running my ram at 1.52v on the daily so yes it's highly dependent on die

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:19 PM

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That might be the transition between renders tho

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(cpu)

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:19 PM

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modern walrus It shows 1.281 for a fraction of a second

Not a concern

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It's sustained load that degrades the CPU at unsafe voltage

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:20 PM

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& 1.231 is unsafe voltage right?

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:20 PM

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According to AMD 1.25v is safe

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:20 PM

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because that's mostly where it holds steady

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Well that & 1.225. Maybe it's about even between those two

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:21 PM

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Without the voltage offset that's around the 1.25v so the motherboard clearly knows what's safe

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:21 PM

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Lol max temp is 74.3

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My cooling system is finally not the limiting factor (unlike my 10900K)

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:22 PM

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Yeah AMD uses less power and generates less heat than Intel in current gens

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:23 PM

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All that bending 16mm pipe was worth it I guess

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In hindsight I should've done the loop on the 10900k

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because I've hit a wall where even with AF2 with delta fans I can't get below 87 max temp

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you think I'd do better with Ryzen Master?

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& putting the started cores up to like 50 or 51?

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How'd u get an all core 50 & stay below 1.25?

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I always get the blah bin chips. Heck.

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:25 PM

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Not using RM to overclock, just for it to read the detailed system specs to find best cores

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:26 PM

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My reservoir is crazy rn

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:26 PM

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modern walrus How'd u get an all core 50 & stay below 1.25?

Curve optimizer

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:26 PM

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I don't even know how to use that. I guess that's the next project

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22918 v. 22565 ac v. PBO

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what do you set the ratio to when you use core optimizer?

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curve optimizer I mean

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I'm installing Master for the 3d time lol

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just leave on default right?

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I got 11 on windows dev insider btw

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If anyone wants to try that out

zenith palm Jun 29, 2021, 10:32 PM

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As soon as i get win 11 that bar is going right back over to the left where it belongs :)

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:32 PM

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Where do I find the cores with stars? lol

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haha that's an older picture

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I moved it on both computers that have win 11

zenith palm Jun 29, 2021, 10:33 PM

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If you go advanced should be in the homepage iirc

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:34 PM

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Not mine of course lol

zenith palm Jun 29, 2021, 10:35 PM

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It might be collapsed in a tab

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:35 PM

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Click where it says CCD0

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It's a drop down

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Same for CCD1 if you have it

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And yes you leave core ratio on auto when using PBO

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:52 PM

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ah okay I see it

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sorry had to take a bathroom break

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so there's only two with stars

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should there be more?

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or should I do the built in stress test?

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doing the stress test made something override something cuz max is now 5150 so it probably changed the core ratio

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I guess stars are the best and white dots are the runner-ups?

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well no it wouldn't have changed anythign cuz then it would've had to restart

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:55 PM

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modern walrus I guess stars are the best and white dots are the runner-ups?

Yes. Take note of which cores are marked.

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:56 PM

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okay I took a picture

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:58 PM

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Head into the curve optimizer in bios. You can start by setting it to per-core mode, then set negative ( - ) sign on each core and set the "best" cores to 25 and all the others to 10

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:59 PM

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even the runner-ups get 10?

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:59 PM

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Your bios might start counting at 1 instead of 0 like Ryzen Master

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The second best ones will get 25 too

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 10:59 PM

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okay awesome I'm getting there now

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 10:59 PM

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Just to start the process going for testing, might change it later

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 11:01 PM

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ya mine start at 1 also

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okay just did it

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rebooting

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what do those numbers mean? all it says is magnitude

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 11:03 PM

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It's shifting the boost table so the best cores can boost higher

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 11:03 PM

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oh okay

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so it's like a ratio then I guess?

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oh shoot I think I left the ratio on 46.3. I'm gonna reboot again

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 11:05 PM

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Kinda. It works with the motherboard sensors and logic to determine the best place on the table it should be. If you shift the table left (negative on the axis) higher boosts are selected.

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You've got plenty of thermal headroom so you should be able to hit higher boosts. -25 is a conservative start. My best cores are -30. Depending on how you're binned you could go higher.

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 11:08 PM

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I hope I'm binned better than my Intel chip

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how should I test it?

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run a game with HWiNFO in the background? CB does like all core

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 11:11 PM

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Keep doing CB since you have results already in there from before

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It has a single core test too

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 11:12 PM

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boot loop

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I can't make it past enter password screen

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once I enter password it resets

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 11:12 PM

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It's not stable there then

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Do you still have the +200 pbo offset on?

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Mine isn't stable there either. Maxes out at +175.

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 11:13 PM

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oh ya I do

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should I try 175 or auto?

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 11:14 PM

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Maybe drop it to 100 and see if it passes stability testing, then you can go higher

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 11:15 PM

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okay

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okay rebooting at 100

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little bit of screen flicker action but I think I'm in

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It seems to have upset Armourycrate because the rgb colors have gone bananas

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multi-core is running at 43x per core

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 11:19 PM

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Idle or under load?
You're sure you did the right cores in the curve optimizer? Core 2 in Ryzen Master would be core 3 in bios.

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 11:19 PM

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voltage is 1.156

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I'm pretty sure ya

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I just subtracted 1 from every core number

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1=0 2=1 etc

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 11:21 PM

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Should be right then. Try setting core voltage back to auto. That negative offset is taking it a bit low.

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 11:21 PM

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it shows maximum for 1, 4, 5, at 49

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core 6 must be wrong

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 11:24 PM

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Oh actually it looks like your version of RM starts counting at 1

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 11:24 PM

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no 6 is at 10

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It's just boosting 6 for no reason

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 11:25 PM

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Or is that not your computer again in the screenshot?

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 11:25 PM

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that's the computer

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everything lines up except the darn core 6

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 11:26 PM

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Ok, and your bios started counting at 1 also?

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 11:26 PM

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yes

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no wait

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at 0

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 11:27 PM

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Ok so core 6 on RM is core 5 in bios

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 11:27 PM

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yes

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I'm going to write it out just to be sure

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 11:29 PM

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Cores 1, 4, 6, and 9 in bios should be 25 in CO

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If that's the current setting and it's not stable still, try setting 4 and 6 to 20

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 11:30 PM

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okay

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okay it was right. I set 4 & 6 to 25

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I mean 20

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 11:32 PM

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If it's still not stable drop all four to 20

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 11:33 PM

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it was stable with all at 25

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I just didn't understand why an extra one was set high

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 11:39 PM

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It's the lesser cores being at 46 I'm worried about, you can also try doing 15 on the not-best cores

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 11:40 PM

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This makes no sense. Like it doesn't listen to me lol

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I made a spreadsheet

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Riddle me that lol

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sorry yellow is actually 20

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let me fix it

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 11:42 PM

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It's nothing but trial and error to find your best settings tbh. I feel like that on my system too, I know I can play with it for another couple hours and get a couple hundred more points on multicore.

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 11:42 PM

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ya for sure

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that's why I do the excel sheets

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you see how C6 is at 20 but has the 2d lowest ratio?

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wth

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it just straight up ignores me on C10-11

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Look at that tho

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is pref short for preferred as in the order the system thinks the cores are best?

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I'm failing to see a pattern here lol

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 11:53 PM

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I wouldn't worry about that too much honestly, there's always going to be some variance. It'll probably change if you just reboot and run the test again.

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 11:55 PM

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I guess I can try putting the numbers in again based on the ratios it shows on HWiNFO

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 11:55 PM

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From an hwinfo author

modern walrus Jun 29, 2021, 11:57 PM

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well that explains a lot thank you

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great so one core is high quality silicone lol

sudden torrent Jun 29, 2021, 11:59 PM

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They're all high quality still but some are just slightly better according to the hardware

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The slightly better ones are the ones that will be "preferred" and used first when threads are being assigned

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For a deep dive on the inner workings you can check this thread out: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/dzjs7i/fastest_cores_is_windows_right_or_ryzen_master/

r/Amd - Fastest Cores: Is Windows Right? Or Ryzen Master? It's Both...

654 votes and 261 comments so far on Reddit

modern walrus Jun 30, 2021, 12:02 AM

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strange that 7 is a higher preferred

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I'm gonna read that for sure

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you think I should assign the higher magnitude based on preference or based on quality

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?

sudden torrent Jun 30, 2021, 12:04 AM

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Higher quality cores should boost to designated targets at a slightly lower voltage, so in theory they should boost to a higher max value at the same voltage across all the cores

modern walrus Jun 30, 2021, 12:06 AM

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So maybe green 25+; yellow 20-26; red 10-20?

sudden torrent Jun 30, 2021, 12:12 AM

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Give it a go and see how it turns out. Trial and error. Some cores will actually boost lower if pushed too far. You'll have to watch behavior closely.

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What's clear from that list though is that CCD0 is stronger than CCD1

modern walrus Jun 30, 2021, 12:16 AM

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ah okay

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This is a lot to take in but I think I get it

sour vortex Jun 30, 2021, 1:09 AM

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Thinking of trying to push my R7 2700 further than 4 GHz, what voltage should be my cap?

dull ginkgo Jun 30, 2021, 1:10 AM

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safe generally would be like 1.3v for zen+ afaik, but you can most likely go further, some testing I found here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/amvfi4/ryzen_generation_2_safeunsafe_voltages_tested/

r/Amd - Ryzen Generation 2, Safe/Unsafe Voltages Tested

137 votes and 88 comments so far on Reddit

sour vortex Jun 30, 2021, 1:10 AM

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I'll take a look, thanks.

dull ginkgo Jun 30, 2021, 1:12 AM

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it's not great testing, but it's a start to some info

sour vortex Jun 30, 2021, 1:17 AM

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I'll try pushing my 2700 a bit furthur, but if I can only gain 50 MHz while staying under 1.375v, I won't bother.

dull ginkgo Jun 30, 2021, 1:18 AM

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I got like 4.15 when I had my 2700 max with 1.375v

sour vortex Jun 30, 2021, 1:20 AM

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If I'm remembering correctly, it runs nice and cool at 4 GHz with 1.25v. I probably should double check.

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Yep, 4.0 @ 1.25v

sour vortex Jun 30, 2021, 2:21 AM

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If 4125 MHz is stable (still testing), I will have passed 10k in Cinebench R23.

sour vortex Jun 30, 2021, 2:38 AM

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But it might look more like 4.1...

modern walrus Jun 30, 2021, 2:41 AM

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I hear ya man. I'm banging my head against the wall trying to figure out why it'll show various core ratios & they're all at least 3 points higher than what the cores will run in CB R23

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I like overclocking intel a lot better

proven canopy Jun 30, 2021, 2:44 AM

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same

modern walrus Jun 30, 2021, 2:45 AM

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Intel is just like LLC, voltage, ratio, then ring ratio

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None of this PBO Curve Optimizer stuff

proven canopy Jun 30, 2021, 2:46 AM

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I mean, that stuff is really beneficial for daily - I meant I like benching on intel better

modern walrus Jun 30, 2021, 2:46 AM

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ya I guess you're right. I just enjoy the process a lot more but that's probably because I spent a lot of time learning it & I know it better than I know this

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Not that I know that much about either one but ya]

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I think what I dislike the most is trying to stay right around 1.2v

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that extra 1.5 on Intel gives you lots of leeway

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Overclocking a 32 core Threadripper must be such a freaking mission

sour vortex Jun 30, 2021, 3:06 AM

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I just have to click a couple things and wait. Then reboot, lower the core clock be 25 MHz, click a couple more things, and continue waiting.

modern walrus Jun 30, 2021, 3:07 AM

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I do like that AMD lets you do like 50.3 whereas (at least with my MSI board) you either did 50 or 51, no decimals

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watching it do CB single-core rn is kinda cool cuz it keeps bouncing from core to core

sour vortex Jun 30, 2021, 3:08 AM

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Just like Windows update!

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My board doesn't let you change CPU voltage for some reason, so I have to go through RM. 😬

modern walrus Jun 30, 2021, 3:11 AM

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That's cool & all but I care more about multi-core lol

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I wish I'd known more about how important a good motherboard is to overclocking before I bought my motherboard

sour vortex Jun 30, 2021, 3:18 AM

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Same here.

modern walrus Jun 30, 2021, 3:19 AM

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I had a gaming carbon wifi that got messed up during BIOS update So I got a Aorus z590 ultra. The MSI could barely do a 50 core ratio. The Aorus does a 51 with better thermals than the MSI's 50

sour vortex Jun 30, 2021, 3:19 AM

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Yeah, I could probably work on that. RM lets me tune each of my 8 cores independently.
It will probably be my summer project or something.

sour vortex Jun 30, 2021, 3:20 AM

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modern walrus I had a gaming carbon wifi that got messed up during BIOS update So I got a Aoru...

I didn't expect that kind of difference lol.

modern walrus Jun 30, 2021, 3:20 AM

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neither did I tbh

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some random stuff can make a big difference tho

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I cut out the top of my H500P Mesh because it was choking the exhaust from the AIO so bad

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it was like a 5.4 degree difference

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on average and max

sour vortex Jun 30, 2021, 3:22 AM

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Nice

modern walrus Jun 30, 2021, 3:23 AM

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I'm a little disappointed tho because I already switched 2/3 fans on the Arctic Freezer 2 from the stock fans to delta fans & it's only gotten me like 2 degrees

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I removed it then cut it so that there wouldn't be open spaces lol

sour vortex Jun 30, 2021, 3:25 AM

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The liquid freezer AIO?

modern walrus Jun 30, 2021, 3:28 AM

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yes

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apparently my picture won't go thru

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I unplugged all those top fans. The deltas push so hard that they do the spin them anyway

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do the spinning for them anyway I mean

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They're just decoration now

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Otherwise when the deltas kick up it'll cause the fans to like hit the sides. I had one jam

sour vortex Jun 30, 2021, 4:35 AM

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Nice. I just have an Arctic Freezer 34 Esports Duo. Handled the 30 min CB run nicely. 4.1 GHz @ 1.375v, sucking just under 150W, and it never reached 70. Of course, the room is somewhat cooler than normal.

lavish tundra Jun 30, 2021, 5:50 AM

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sour vortex Nice. I just have an Arctic Freezer 34 Esports Duo. Handled the 30 min CB run ni...

UHHHH

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Manual OC?

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on a ryzen 7 2700

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@sour vortex

sudden torrent Jun 30, 2021, 5:52 AM

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Yes, manual oc is best on Zen+ because crappy first attempt at PBO had few options

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Zen 2 and 3 PBO is better

lavish tundra Jun 30, 2021, 5:54 AM

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sudden torrent Yes, manual oc is best on Zen+ because crappy first attempt at PBO had few optio...

1.375V on a 2700 mate

sudden torrent Jun 30, 2021, 5:54 AM

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Probably not that under load, I'd hope at least

lavish tundra Jun 30, 2021, 5:55 AM

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sudden torrent Probably not that under load, I'd hope at least

he ran cinebench for 30 mins like that

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it was very much under load

sudden torrent Jun 30, 2021, 5:58 AM

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1.35v is ok on Zen+, 1.45v is around where degradation occurs more
Source: Buildzoid (Actually Hardcore Overclocking)

south sky Jun 30, 2021, 6:04 AM

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1.45v is crazy high for zen +

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even 1.4 is too high

short blade Jun 30, 2021, 11:21 AM

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@south sky tCWL 9 1 error, tCWL 10 0 errors

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any less-than-straightforward ways to make these able to tighten? they are all the same as auto value

lavish tundra Jun 30, 2021, 11:23 AM

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sudden torrent 1.35v is ok on Zen+, 1.45v is around where degradation occurs more Source: Build...

1.35 is the hard limit imo

sterile flame Jun 30, 2021, 11:50 AM

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1.325 is where i stopped

orchid flame Jun 30, 2021, 12:12 PM

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short blade any less-than-straightforward ways to make these able to tighten? they are all t...

tWRRD 1 might work. Otherwise those other ones can be ignored

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Setting them to auto, setting them manually, setting them 1 or 100, doesn’t really matter

short blade Jun 30, 2021, 7:38 PM

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tWRRD 1 errored before but I can retry now that I changed tRDWR

short blade Jun 30, 2021, 9:19 PM

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it works now

sour vortex Jun 30, 2021, 10:25 PM

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@modern walrus How should I test my per-core tuning? Multi or single thread?

lavish tundra Jun 30, 2021, 10:43 PM

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Multi

sour vortex Jun 30, 2021, 10:44 PM

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Alright, thanks.

normal ether Jun 30, 2021, 11:16 PM

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this is probably a stupid question

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but is there any simple way to tell if you have a good bin on your cpu or not lol

short blade Jun 30, 2021, 11:38 PM

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hmm interesting tightened a ram timing and tm5 no error but it made gpu start crashing again

short blade Jun 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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normal ether but is there any simple way to tell if you have a good bin on your cpu or not lo...

depends on the cpu

normal ether Jun 30, 2021, 11:40 PM

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i hav 3600 XT

short blade Jun 30, 2021, 11:41 PM

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determine max FIT voltage first by running p95 with pbo on

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then see how high you can boot at that voltage

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once you can't boot anymore dial it back down one step and start stress testing it

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shouldn't take more than 2 hours to find something with a 90% chance of being daily stable

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after that just leave the test running until confident that it's 100% stable

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I would recommend just using pbo instead if you're gaming though

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being able to get 1900 fclk stable is more important for determining a "good bin" for gaming than core clock

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 12:57 AM

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@tall pelican if something was wrong with that please correct me I don't know everything

tall pelican Jul 1, 2021, 12:58 AM

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FIT voltage is only relevant at that recorded temperature, at that reported current

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say you get a FIT of 4.0ghz and 1.3v, but then you clock it up to 4.4 and 1.3v, you're increasing current draw by 10%

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more current -> more power -> more heat (hotter temps)

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:01 AM

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hm

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when I tried it I instantly slammed into the 88W PPT at 1.24v

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65-70C steady

tall pelican Jul 1, 2021, 1:02 AM

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turn down the fan speed during that, and you'll see fit go down as temps creep up

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:03 AM

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manual oc did not increase that temp

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that was 100% pump with fans around 50%

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I was mostly just curious though and didn't actually manual oc

tall pelican Jul 1, 2021, 1:04 AM

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to keep the same level of safety, you have to limit FIT based off the current draw

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so get stock edc/tdc, run the test off that, then when you manual oc, you cant go over tdc/edc

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:05 AM

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can amperage really be different at the same voltage and wattage

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thought it was volts * amps = watts

tall pelican Jul 1, 2021, 1:05 AM

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if you're at the same voltage and wattage, that means you arent clocking higher

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:06 AM

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was 4.2 all core vs 4.05

tall pelican Jul 1, 2021, 1:07 AM

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that's 4% more current based off clocks alone

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:07 AM

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I see

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well thank you for correcting me

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@normal ether you should probably read this

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I'm sticking to pbo and curve optimizer

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appreciate you taking the time to explain

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:16 AM

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So it'll show like 48.3+ as max on all cores then when I run CB it'll usually run 44.5 during render on all cores

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I dialed back PBO to +100mHz to get higher clocks on all cores

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Plus I figured 50.5 was a pretty good single core anyway

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Anyway, why does it usually only run 44.5 during the renders?

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it can't be temperatures, those are maxing out below like 74

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heckin Ryzen

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:20 AM

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that is normal

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heavier all core loads clock lower than lighter and/or less threaded loads

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this is a bit of an oversimplification but imagine you have a power budget of 200 watts

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:21 AM

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hmm but I can get an all OC at 46

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:21 AM

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if one core is blasting through a light workload it might take 25 watts by itself to boost higher

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:21 AM

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then lose the single jump to 50.5

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:21 AM

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but if all 12 are running they are going to divide that budget more evenly

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of course there's more factors like voltage and current

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:22 AM

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which I assume 44.5 all core with the jump to 50.5 sometimes is better than 46 all core.

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:22 AM

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but the concept remains that all core loads will clock lower

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:22 AM

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Though it isn't on CB lol

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:22 AM

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it depends

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if you primarily game then yes keep pbo

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if you never game and only do things like render then keep the manual oc

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:22 AM

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I see

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Yes that's what I think I'm going to do (keep PBO)

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So it's safe to say CB isn't really a great benchmark for gaming then?

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:23 AM

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absolutely not

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as in

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it's absolutely not representative of gaming performance

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:24 AM

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I'm pretty sure I did better on 3dMark w/ 46 AC but I'd have to run it again

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:24 AM

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a 64c/128t threadripper 3990x would crush your 5900x in cinebench

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it wouldn't even be close

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but the 5900x would be better in all games that aren't star citizen

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:24 AM

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oh I know cuz it's like 3 good processors jammed together lol

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ahh okay

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:25 AM

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3dmark CPU test is also an all core render load

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:25 AM

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ya I noticed on single core CB that the 5900x was killin it

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:25 AM

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if you want to bench your cpu in games then bench it in games

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:25 AM

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I think I did DirectX 12

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Ultimate

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:25 AM

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there are games with built in benchmarks that measure your system performance for that game

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:25 AM

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lol what a novel, obvious, yet genius idea

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:25 AM

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such as AC valhalla

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:25 AM

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I dunno why I didn't think to do that

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:26 AM

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r6 siege and csgo may be good tests for primarily testing cpu bound scenarios

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horizon zero dawn has a benchmark that scales well with high threads

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:26 AM

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Well I only have Plasmorphia, RE2, RE3, & RE7 presently lol

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What's "good" in 3dMark?

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like 14k+?

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(bias lol)

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:27 AM

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overall or cpu

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:28 AM

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I tried the new one they added. I forget what it's called but it tests CPU at different thread amounts

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CPU

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but I first asked overall

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cuz 14k cpu is insane

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but ya CPU

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:28 AM

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I was not seeing a significant bottleneck with my 3080 at 1440p with a cpu that scored 7-8k

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like I said 3dmark CPU test is still a synthetic test that is not necessarily representative of gaming performance

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:29 AM

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My setup is actually kind of puzzling

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because I can't tell whether the 5900x or the 3070 is the bottleneck

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:29 AM

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depends on your settings

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I had a 3600x paired with the 3080

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:30 AM

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short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:30 AM

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no, in game settings

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:30 AM

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ohh okay

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:30 AM

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csgo at 480p? 5900x will be the bottleneck

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:30 AM

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I do all my gaming at 4k

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:30 AM

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control at 4k? 3070 will be the bottleneck

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:31 AM

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I figured I might as well do 4k cuz my monitor is only 60hZ

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cuz it's kinda technically not really a monitor

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:31 AM

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if you're gaming at 4k (and presumably high-ultra settings) the 3070 will practically always be the bottleneck

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:31 AM

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but it's 43" so I like it lol

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:31 AM

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I observed instances of my 3080 bottlenecking my 3600x at 1440p high so

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:31 AM

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okay so for sure in games I'm bottlenecking at the GPU

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Which I haven't even played any games on the 3070 tbh

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the 3060 w/ the 10900K did fairly well on RE2 with some pretty high settings

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it's weird cuz the 3060 has so much more RAM

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vRAM

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I see why it was kinda pointless to watercool the 3070. It'll run out of capability way before it'll hit any thermal limits

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the 3060 does that with air cooling lol

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:33 AM

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3060 having 12gb vram is quite simple

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the core has a 192-bit memory bus

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memory chip is 32 bits wide

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so you want to have 6 chips

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which are going to be 1 or 2 GB

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they didn't want to make another 6GB x60 card because people were already complaining about nvidia having lower vram than amd

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therefore they slapped on 12GB and called it a day

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even though the 12GB really does nothing for the card

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the 3070 on the other hand has a 256-bit bus so their options were 8GB or 16GB

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16GB would drive much higher prices and 8GB isn't nearly as precarious as 6GB in 2021

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:35 AM

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the 10900K got a 13,162 score on 3dmark for CPU & the 5900x got a 12,562

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:36 AM

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I'd like to see a 3050ti that's essentially a 3060 with 6gb vram for ~$260

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:36 AM

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isn't there a 3050 for laptops??

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I should probably run 3dmark again tho now that I've messed with the curve so much

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heck let's do that now.

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:37 AM

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yeah there's a 3050 4gb that people are complaining about

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:37 AM

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even tho I'm so tired of watching that same sequence lol

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I dunno why anyone does laptop gaming

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It's just heat and disappointment

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I'm gonna run Timespy rn see if it got better

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I mean shouldn't the 5900x be getting a better CPU score?

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The 10900K is all core 51 tho

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:38 AM

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I've been pleasantly surprised with my laptop

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:39 AM

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I have a surfacebook 3 so ya heat & disappointment for gaming

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If you watch HWiNFO that thing hits TJ max constatly

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:39 AM

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stayed over at gf's place for long enough that the 5 year old laptop with a 60hz screen was killing me

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dropped 1700 on a new gaming laptop

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:39 AM

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I should've done that

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:39 AM

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slightly edges out an i5-10400 + 2080 super in synthetics

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:39 AM

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but I thought the detach the screen & have a tablet thing was cool

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:39 AM

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in some games it gets scarily close to my desktop 3070

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I've seen my laptop 3070 boost to 2100mhz core 8800mhz mem in the outer worlds

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:40 AM

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I doubt I'd use my laptop for gaming if I could really

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:40 AM

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my desktop 3070 tuf with 112% power limit does 2130mhz core and 8200mhz mem

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:40 AM

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I have an old ASUS gaming laptop lol

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:40 AM

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well I have no other options when my desktop is 400 miles away

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all things considered it's a very nice machine

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:41 AM

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damn your girl lives that far away?

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:41 AM

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yeah we go to different unis

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happens

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:41 AM

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your TUF is choppin up my EVGA then

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:42 AM

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what graphics score do you get?

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I get 15330

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stock cooler

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:42 AM

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I'll tell you in about 6 more minutes

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I'm amazed this thing is doing 110 FPS rn

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wait jk

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an error just occurred

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what the heck man

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:42 AM

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unstable oc

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:43 AM

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GPU or CPU? probably GPU no?

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:43 AM

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your mem clock doesn't look high enough to be problematic

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try dropping core by 15

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GPU yes

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:44 AM

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should I do time spy extreme or regular?

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which one are you comparing?

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I should probably do extreme so I can see 4k but I'm gonna do regular for now

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I could never play this game. It's so orange I dunno how else to describe it

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:47 AM

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hahaha I get what you mean

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I personally do 1x time spy stress test and 3x fire strike ultra stress test

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with one stress test being 20 passes of the graphics tests and skipping the CPU test

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:47 AM

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which uni are you going to? I did FSU for undergrad now I'm at FIU

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I'm also almost 33 tho. I wish I learned more of this computer stuff when I was younger. I might've done engineering or something more useful than Political science

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:48 AM

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originally NYU, hated it and left, back at community college for now working on a transfer somewhere else

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off topic though

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:48 AM

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Back in my day we were happy with our 833mHz Compaq that could run Star Craft Brood War pretty well

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and DSL got us on battlenet no problem haha

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:49 AM

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my first computer was a gateway all in one with a pentium 4 that my parents bought for me because i won some math competition

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I used it to play maplestory and nothing else

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:50 AM

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lol nice. I don't think there were all in ones when I was playing games a lot

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okay CPU score is down to 11,995 tf

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Graphics at 15034

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graphics score up, cpu score down. go figure

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:51 AM

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https://www.3dmark.com/spy/19533705

3DMark.com

I scored 13 949 in Time Spy

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 x 1, 16384 MB, 64-bit Windows 10}

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15330 graphics, 9235 cpu

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https://www.3dmark.com/spy/18234328

3DMark.com

I scored 15 386 in Time Spy

AMD Ryzen 5 3600X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 x 1, 16384 MB, 64-bit Windows 10}

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here's 18447 graphics with 7930 CPU lol

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:52 AM

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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/63294312?

3DMark.com

I scored 14 483 in Time Spy

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 x 1, 65536 MB, 64-bit Windows 10}

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jeez why am I not getting a better overclock then? lottery?

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they're both 3070s

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:53 AM

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probably lottery, the air cooler is doing a fine job of keeping the 3070 down

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you can see avg temp is 56C

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:53 AM

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must be cuz I'm pumping a ton of water onto that GPU and the water is coming out of 360 rad

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:53 AM

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I live in a poorly ventilated room in california where ambient temp is usually almost 30c

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your cpu and gpu sharing a 360 rad?

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:54 AM

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Lol I got 54 but the ambient temp inside my apt is uh whatever 74 is in celcius

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no they each get a 360mm rad

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:54 AM

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interesting

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:54 AM

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& then theres a 140 to make sure the water going into the pump isn't too hot

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:55 AM

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I just have an aio on the cpu and stock cooled gpu

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:55 AM

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I kinda maybe uh overdid it

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:55 AM

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room temp usually mid 80s F

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:55 AM

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I don't think this Thermaltake case gets great airflow

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:55 AM

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which case?

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:56 AM

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Level 20 GT aRGB

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:56 AM

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this 3070 is sitting in a td500 mesh with 3 front intake, 1 rear exhaust, and aio configured as triple exhaust

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:56 AM

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all that glass means not much air movement

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:56 AM

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yeah it's probably case difference

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:56 AM

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That's closer to my H500P build. AIO as top exhaust seems to be the best

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:57 AM

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yup my new build is using aio top exhaust as well

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:57 AM

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but that thing has terrible ventilation up top so I did a little bit of cutting haha

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I made the rear fans blow in & top fans blow in

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:57 AM

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it's nice for cpu heat to be directly ejected from the case

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:57 AM

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I was gonna cut out the bottom a bit & throw a couple 60mm fans to draw from the bottom too

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but I'm not sure it's worth the headache

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:58 AM

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ehh your temps are fine

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54c is not a thermal issue you're just hitting silicon limits

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don't feel too bad, my 3080 is one of the worst in existence in terms of silicon lottery lol

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:59 AM

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oh shoot

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yours is a 3080 or a 3070?

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 1:59 AM

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I have both

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I'm comparing my 3070 to yours

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 1:59 AM

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That case I was gonna cut in 60s has a 3060

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 2:00 AM

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just saying my 3080 is a steaming pile of garbage in the overclocking department

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so don't feel bad that my 3070 is a fraction of a percent better

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 2:00 AM

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I just can't get over how mediocre that 5900x performance was

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I guess I should go back to the curve enhancer & see what I can squeeze out of it

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I don't think I've hit the limit yet

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I just got tired of doing it

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 2:01 AM

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pbo/co is going to show you worse performance than manual oc in 3dmark

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but better in gaming

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I wouldn't worry too much about it

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 2:02 AM

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hmm okay

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I just like lived & died by those numbers when OC my 10900K

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but I guess it's apples & oranges

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 2:02 AM

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at the end of the day you don't play 3dmark right?

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 2:03 AM

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Ya true

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& I wouldn't play that weird TimeSpy game anyway

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I dunno why but this ASUS board puts the pump at 100% by default

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it's raging so I gotta go check that

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jeez

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makes no sense

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Do you watch any of that Twitch stuff?

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like Robey or any of that?

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 2:05 AM

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nope

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 2:06 AM

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eh it's kinda cool. I watched Thermaltake's this afternoon. They finally replaced that TT RGB Plus app

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well just 2.0

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what fans do you use?

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 2:07 AM

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id-cooling xf12025 argb

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 2:08 AM

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oh I put some idcools in my H500P on top

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nice looking fans

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 2:09 AM

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I bought them at a pricing error

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5 3-packs for $50

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each 3-pack has an argb controller, pwm splitter, and 1-4 argb splitter

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very nice value for money lol

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basically a bit under $3 per fan

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 2:10 AM

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heck ya I think the 3 of them was like $18

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 2:10 AM

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combine that with the $33 lian li galahad 360mm aio

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and i filled up my o11 with 9 fans for very very cheap lol

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 2:11 AM

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ya I bought a bunch of thermaltakes on ebay for a decent price

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 2:11 AM

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$50 for a 360mm aio + 9 fans goaThumbsUp

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 2:12 AM

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but the 200mm Riing Trios cost a fortune

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They look nice at least

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I'm gonna see if 27 magnitude will run stable

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odds are no

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 2:39 AM

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Core 0: +2
Core 1: -19
Core 2: -25
Core 3: -15
Core 4: -27
Core 5: -16
Core 6: -21
Core 7: -19

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that's my curve

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 2:50 AM

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you dont use optimizer?

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oh wait that is optimzer?

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Mine are all -

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what translates to more performance - or +?

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I don't even know how this ridiculous magnitude system works

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 3:13 AM

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well

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i have a +200mhz override

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and my core 0 is not stable at +200 with stock voltage

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so i have to give it more voltage

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hence the +2

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the other cores are all fine with undervolting

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in general you want to make all of your cores as low as they will go

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core 0 was throwing errors at +0 and +1

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 3:50 AM

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oh so the more negative the magnitude value, the less voltage the core will require at the various speeds respectively, the higher the system can run the core while remaining under 1.2v?

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well frequencies not speeds

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will any core exceed 50.5? It doesn't seem to ever push beyond that amount even if I add more magnitude

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Also how did you isolate which core causes issues?

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This is useful

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have you set PPT, EDC, or TDC to anything other than Auto?

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I imagine auto for EDC is 1.2

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 4:12 AM

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corecycler

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 5:21 AM

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whats that

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I watched a video on tuning the EDC

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kind of a pain but I think I did it

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I guess 112A is my sweet spot

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do you ever run sfc /scannow on cmd? I try to do it often in case all this crazy OC reboot 800x corrupts windows

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wouldn't lowering the max boost clock override give you the ability to put higher voltage offsets? I mean isn't the main cause of crashing for curve optimizer when one or more cores tries to go beyond the frequency limit? (I think that's 5.1ghz if I had to guess?)

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 5:57 AM

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no, it's when it doesn't have enough voltage to reach the target clock

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 5:57 AM

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modern walrus do you ever run sfc /scannow on cmd? I try to do it often in case all this crazy...

yes i have sfc + dism in a batch file

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i am planning to a clean windows install once i'm done ocing regardless

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 6:51 AM

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oh ya? should I do that? lol

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 6:53 AM

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well I'm doing manual ram oc

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so it's a good idea to

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if you're only doing cpu oc it's probably not necessary

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 6:53 AM

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oh ya I don't even know where to start with that

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 6:54 AM

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unstable ram can cause wrong reads/writes everywhere

modern walrus Jul 1, 2021, 6:54 AM

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I've nearly gotten every core to show a max ratio of 50+

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yet CB runs at 44.5 lol

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whatever

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I'm kind of confused as to what I'm even accomplishing at this point

south sky Jul 1, 2021, 6:55 AM

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short blade unstable ram can cause wrong reads/writes everywhere

Somehow I dailied unstable ram for 6 months and only had sfc /scannow fix stuff twice!

short blade Jul 1, 2021, 6:55 AM

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yeah

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that's why I wanna clean install

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sfc and dism are not perfect

south sky Jul 1, 2021, 6:56 AM

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I'm still using the same install