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sterile flame May 8, 2021, 10:15 PM

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im capped at 3666?

sudden torrent May 8, 2021, 10:15 PM

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What the fclk at? 1833?

sterile flame May 8, 2021, 10:15 PM

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yep

sudden torrent May 8, 2021, 10:15 PM

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Run OCCT memory test and see if you get errors at that speed

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Default settings are fine

sterile flame May 8, 2021, 10:15 PM

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sudden torrent Run OCCT memory test and see if you get errors at that speed

ran it and no errors

sudden torrent May 8, 2021, 10:16 PM

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Good, then yes you're probably stuck with fclk at 1833.

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Running memory faster than 3666 will actually reduce performance unless you get into ridiculous high speeds like 4600+

sterile flame May 8, 2021, 10:17 PM

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oh damn. i thought i could go for atleast 3800

sudden torrent May 8, 2021, 10:17 PM

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With some tuning you could probably get down to 3666c12

sterile flame May 8, 2021, 10:18 PM

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c12 as in tightening timings right?

sudden torrent May 8, 2021, 10:18 PM

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Yes that refers to CAS latency, the first of the primary timings

sterile flame May 8, 2021, 10:18 PM

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ah i see

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idk that much about tightening timings

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is there like a software or something which can give me the best timings?'

sudden torrent May 8, 2021, 10:20 PM

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Not really one that will max it out like tuning it manually

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Ryzen DRAM Calculator won't push the voltage as high as you can do safely on b-die memory

sterile flame May 8, 2021, 10:21 PM

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so ill just stick to 3666 then?

sudden torrent May 8, 2021, 10:21 PM

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I would. Going any faster will give you a net loss in performance.

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The extra money on fast RAM isn't wasted though, a high rated set like yours will tighten timings really well and give great results.

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I'm running my set rated 4133c19 at 3800c14

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If I push the voltage higher I could probably get it to 12

sterile flame May 8, 2021, 10:22 PM

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what cpu you got?

sudden torrent May 8, 2021, 10:22 PM

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5800X

sterile flame May 8, 2021, 10:22 PM

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ah thats why

sudden torrent May 8, 2021, 10:23 PM

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I'd help tune it since I love doing that, but I can't today. Need to get ready for a nice dinner with the wife.

sterile flame May 8, 2021, 10:24 PM

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no worries mate i was about to ask you for help on that

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but take your time

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whenever your free, just ping me or dm me

sudden torrent May 8, 2021, 10:25 PM

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I'll be on later tonight or tomorrow

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It can take a few hours to do it right

sterile flame May 8, 2021, 10:26 PM

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sure thing

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i got lots of time to kill lol

proven canopy May 8, 2021, 10:27 PM

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Never seen someone daily cl12 on ddr4, c13 is doable though, not hard

zenith palm May 8, 2021, 11:33 PM

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Bios update so scary was convinced power was gotta go out or something lol

cobalt rapids May 8, 2021, 11:35 PM

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what do y'all like to run when tweaking a new gpu oc? heaven stopped on a specific frame or something else?

zenith palm May 8, 2021, 11:35 PM

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3d mark timespy or haven benchmark

tall pelican May 8, 2021, 11:43 PM

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heaven is 💩 for anything newer than 2016

zenith palm May 8, 2021, 11:44 PM

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Timespy or another 3d mark benchmark then?

tall pelican May 8, 2021, 11:46 PM

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time or superpos

cobalt rapids May 8, 2021, 11:49 PM

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is there something good for stressing for stability while I tweak the numbers or is it better to just change numbers, run benchmark, repeat

zenith palm May 9, 2021, 12:08 AM

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Change then run

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 2:04 AM

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zenith palm Bios update so scary was convinced power was gotta go out or something lol

UPS exists

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fall

zenith palm May 9, 2021, 2:04 AM

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sterile flame UPS exists

Not a thing in Ireland because it's very rare for power to go out

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 2:05 AM

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then wh-

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nvm

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fall

zenith palm May 9, 2021, 2:05 AM

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sterile flame then wh-

Because I'm paranoid/anxious

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 2:23 AM

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cobalt rapids is there something good for stressing for stability while I tweak the numbers or...

Furmark, adjust while running the stress test. Once it crashes, back off a couple steps, then test with time spy.

gritty robin May 9, 2021, 2:24 AM

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Safe oc for 9600k?

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 2:24 AM

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Silicon lottery

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 2:30 AM

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sudden torrent Silicon lottery

i looked at their page and turns out they're selling 11600k for $25 under MSRP fall

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 2:32 AM

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Sounds right. Intel is the only one not having inventory issues lol.

dull ginkgo May 9, 2021, 2:55 AM

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Occt is good too

tall pelican May 9, 2021, 9:25 AM

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how to "air" cool low tdp chips when you only have a d15

clever epoch May 9, 2021, 9:27 AM

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Well if the peltier plates are also cooled by air I guess it technically counts...

tall pelican May 9, 2021, 10:53 AM

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Should do a 4c decently well

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 3:52 PM

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@sudden torrent hmu when you free

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for the RAM overclock thing

proven canopy May 9, 2021, 4:20 PM

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I will be amazed if that has effect sensor works well

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The tolerances have to be so precise

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 5:27 PM

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sterile flame <@!396513761550270464> hmu when you free

I'm open now

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 5:29 PM

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i just started eaqting lol

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gimme 25 vmins and ill get bacck to you?

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 5:29 PM

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Sure no prob

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:05 PM

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@sudden torrent you free?

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Yup

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:07 PM

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righto

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so where should we start?

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 6:07 PM

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Let's start with the basic specs

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I already know your CPU but what's your motherboard?

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:08 PM

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Strix X570E

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 6:08 PM

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Not bad

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:09 PM

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is there a better mobo than that one? because my friend reccommended to me saying its the most premium motheroard available now

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 6:09 PM

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No it'll do quite nicely

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Grab this program and screenshot the timings

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https://zentimings.protonrom.com/

ZenTimings

ZenTimings is a simple and lightweight app for monitoring memory timings on Ryzen platform.

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:10 PM

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sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 6:11 PM

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Ok head to BIOS

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:11 PM

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bios in?

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like i have to restart my computer right?

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 6:13 PM

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Yes, you can get there from the advanced restart menu. Shift+click on restart, from the menu hit advanced, uefi options
Set DRAM voltage to 1.5

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:13 PM

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hold up i gotta install discord on my phone then

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Right I'm in

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DRAM voltage is at 1.4 now

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I'll change it to 1.5

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Anything else?

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 6:17 PM

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1.15 SoC
1.0 VDDP
1.05 vddg iod
10.5 vddg ccd

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:17 PM

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Bruh I'm not able to change it

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It reverts itself back to 1.4

zenith palm May 9, 2021, 6:17 PM

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There should be an overclocking tab are you in that or just the memory tab?

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:18 PM

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I'm in Ai tweaker tab

zenith palm May 9, 2021, 6:18 PM

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That sounds right

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:18 PM

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I'm guessing this is the overclocking tab

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 6:18 PM

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You might need to set voltage to manual mode instead of auto or offset

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:20 PM

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sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:22 PM

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sudden torrent You might need to set voltage to manual mode instead of auto or offset

Where do I set that?

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 6:22 PM

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You have the mouse hovering on it in the picture, the control mode

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There should be a version number on the white sticker on the memory sticks, what does that say? I guess that those sticks could be b-die or rev e

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:27 PM

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I'm guessing it's b die

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But there's nothing given in there

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sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 6:28 PM

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4.31
It's B-die

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You have 4 sticks though? That'll limit timings a bit

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There's no reason I'd see for the BIOS to stop you from setting voltage as high as 1.7v if you wanted

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:29 PM

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But I'm not able to change it to manual

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It's just at Auto for some reason

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Sometimes the bios requires you to use the + and - keys to change things

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:32 PM

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Welp that didn't work

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Should i enable or disable DDR power down mode?

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 6:32 PM

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Disable but that won't affect it right now

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:35 PM

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I see there's a + and - sign

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But after i enter a plus sign

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It just automatically goes to auto if i click on something else

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Pressing enter on my keyboard doesn't work. Is that normal?

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 6:37 PM

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Yeah many boards don't really use enter much with the click bios

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:37 PM

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So what shall i do?

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 6:39 PM

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You might need to update the bios or something, I've never heard of it being stuck on auto.

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:40 PM

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I think i need to do a cmos reset

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It just shows an orange light

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And doesn't boot

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 6:46 PM

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Seems like a good idea

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 6:50 PM

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Doing it rn. My gpu is in the way so it's taking some time

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 7:26 PM

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Bruh

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Cmos reset isn't working

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It just shows orange light

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@sudden torrent

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 7:42 PM

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@sudden torrent i fixed it

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 7:49 PM

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Ok see if you can set the voltages now

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 7:49 PM

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I'm able to change it now

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 7:50 PM

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sudden torrent 1.15 SoC 1.0 VDDP 1.05 vddg iod 10.5 vddg ccd

Did you mean 1.05 vddg ccd?

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This should be all right?

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sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 7:56 PM

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Yes mistype

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Vddp 1.0v

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 7:58 PM

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Is it the CLDO VDDP voltage?

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 7:59 PM

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I believe that's what they call it on asus

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 8:21 PM

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And what should the VDDP stand by voltage be?

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@sudden torrent

tall pelican May 9, 2021, 8:31 PM

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leave it on auto

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you only need to change soc, vddg iod, vddg ccd and cldo vddp

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 8:49 PM

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Should I enable DOCP or should i keep it at manual?

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@tall pelican @sudden torrent

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IT'S FINALLY RUNNING

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IT'S RUNNING AT THAT VOLTAGE FINALLY

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Damn it took a lot of time

tall pelican May 9, 2021, 8:55 PM

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you only need to enable docp if you're doing manual overclocks and its not applying (or you're trying to run docp)

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check with zentimings that its running at the right speed and timings

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 8:55 PM

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Ah so i don't need to enable docp for now is it?

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I haven't adjusted the timings yet

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Just the voltage has been changed

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I have to tune it to 3666 now and then i have to see if it goes above that

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For running at 3666 i did have DOCP

tall pelican May 9, 2021, 8:58 PM

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then leave docp on

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some asus and gigabyte boards need docp/xmp to be on when you're running above auto clocks

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 8:59 PM

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Right

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What is the max clock i can go now?

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I have it at 3666 now

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And it's stable

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I was only able to get it at 3733

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That is one level higher than 3666

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 9:14 PM

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Your max clock is going to be whatever your fclk is stable at

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Then you tighten timings after

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 9:18 PM

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I ran it at 3733 and fclk at 1866

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Then when i increased it, it reset itself

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It did boot though

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Should i try increasing it to 3800?

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Or just leave it there?

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 9:24 PM

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One step at a time. Make sure it's stable at each level before you go up.
OCCT will reveal any errors that come up. You said you tested 1833 fclk already, test it again at 1866, and if it's still stable try 1900. It's rare but it happens that a 3000 chip can hit that.

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 9:25 PM

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So should i increase the fclk first and then memory frequency?

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Like increase fclk, restart it, then increase memory frequency and then restart?

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Yeah that way you know for sure if it's the fclk throwing errors

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You can just change fclk and leave memory alone for now

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Right. I'll run the fclk at 1900 now and see

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It's running at fclk 1900

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Now I'll increase the memory frequency to 3800 and see if it's running?

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It's running at 3800 memory frequency and 1900 fclk

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 9:29 PM

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Test with the OCCT memory test to see if there's errors

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 9:30 PM

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Shouldn't i tighten the timings?

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 9:30 PM

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There's a very high chance that the fclk isn't stable at that speed anyway

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 9:30 PM

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Or should i do it after the occt test?

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 9:30 PM

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Timings are later

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 9:30 PM

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Oh ok I'll do it now

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 9:31 PM

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The voltages we changed give you the best chance at a stable fclk but there's still a lot of 3000 chips that have trouble over 1800

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 9:38 PM

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For the OCCT test, what should i set the instruction set?

proven canopy May 9, 2021, 9:40 PM

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avx2

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 9:40 PM

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and threads is auto or fixed?

proven canopy May 9, 2021, 9:40 PM

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https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/master/DDR4 OC Guide.md#memory-testing-software

GitHub

integralfx/MemTestHelper

C# WPF to automate HCI MemTest. Contribute to integralfx/MemTestHelper development by creating an account on GitHub.

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auto should be fine

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 9:45 PM

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Got it thanks

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The test says it takes about an hour

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So I'll get back to ya after that

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 10:43 PM

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Finished the test

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It didn't show any errors

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@sudden torrent

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 10:51 PM

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I guess you're one of the lucky ones that can run 1900 fclk

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Set memory speed to 3800 if you didn't already

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 10:52 PM

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i did already lol

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it works perfectly now

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 10:52 PM

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Good. Now we can work on timings.

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Save your bios profile before we continue so it's easy to reset

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 10:53 PM

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how do i do that?

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 10:53 PM

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It varies by bios, but it's usually named something to do with profiles

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 10:54 PM

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ah so ill restart it and see

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 11:17 PM

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Bruh

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I saved it

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Just to be double sure, i saved it on my motherboard and on a USB

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Now for the timings

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@sudden torrent

clever epoch May 9, 2021, 11:29 PM

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proven canopy https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/master/DDR4%20OC%20Guide.md#mem...

you should use this guide to tune the timings

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 11:36 PM

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Damn it has a lot of technical stuff in it

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I will read it for sure. It helps

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But how important is tightening timings?

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Like i got 32GB of RAM running at 3800Mhz. So how much of a performance gain would i get by tightening timings?

clever epoch May 9, 2021, 11:39 PM

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you'll get a good bit by tightening primaries and tRFC

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if you've come this far after buying such a fancy kit, it's worth doing the timings

sterile flame May 9, 2021, 11:48 PM

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Right

sudden torrent May 9, 2021, 11:58 PM

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With b-die I expect you to be able to do cas 14 easy

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It's best to adjust a couple timings at a time so if it fails you can narrow down which one it didn't like easier

sterile flame May 10, 2021, 12:23 AM

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got it G thanks a lot for your help

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 1:12 AM

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Hello all. First time OC today. I finally got my RTX3060 stable (ostensibly) at +735 mem clock & +210 core clock. I've seen people claiming +1000 on the mem. Perhaps I lost the silicone lottery or maybe the card just doesn't handle it (ASUS RUF-RTX3060-O12G on MSI MPG Z490 w/ Afterburner). That aside, I've been trying to OC my CPU now & I have a few basic questions: (1) is +52 too ambitious for i9 10900K? & if not, (2) is the correct procedure when the system goes unstable to slightly increase voltage? I've gone up in .005 increments from 1.305-50. Btw was stable at +51@1.310v. Anyone willing to deal w/ helping the FNG? Thanks

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Also, 360 Coolermaster Silver AIO, 3x120mm pull/2x200mm Thermaltake Triio push

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aRGB is set to show system temp. Seen a little violet but no red yet. Still unstable

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Benchmark on Cinebench R23

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 1:22 AM

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modern walrus Hello all. First time OC today. I finally got my RTX3060 stable (ostensibly) at ...

No, not too ambitious at all.
instead of trying to increase voltage if the system is unstable, you should set your voltage to the maximum "safe" level. For a 10900k I'd say that's about 1.4V (some people say more is fine, it might depend). Set a moderate LLC (don't use highest LLC), and then run stability tests on increasing frequency values until it goes unstable

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As for stability, cinebench is not a good stability test. It is good as a benchmark though

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You should use OCCT for stability testing

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 1:23 AM

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Thanks for helping

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I'm in BIOS rn

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(separate computer)

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 1:23 AM

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Also I'd make sure vCore droops under 1.35V under all core load

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 1:24 AM

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okay I'm gonna try & figure this out

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I watched this video where dude said you need to disable Multi-core Enhancement

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He was using ASUS BIOS tho so I don't even know if that's a thing on MSI

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is +53 possible? just out of curiousity?

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I guess I'd never hit that considering the instability at 52

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 1:29 AM

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It is possible

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 1:29 AM

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LLC is Lite Load Control?

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I know it's not Limited Liability Corporation. That's all I knew LLC was before like 5 minutes ago lol

dull ginkgo May 10, 2021, 1:36 AM

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load line calibration

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has to do with vdroop

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 1:37 AM

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I'm sorry in advance for being a total noob & understand if you don't feel like dealing with my questions accordingly

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Damn I read every option like 3x & I don't see load line calibration or vdroop anywhere

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maybe I should just resign myself to letting Dragoncenter do the OC-ing haha

dull ginkgo May 10, 2021, 1:38 AM

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vdroop is more of the phenomenon that is affected by llc

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what LLC does at higher levels is force the voltage up to what you set it, and does not let it 'droop'

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 1:39 AM

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ah okay I think I get it. I was an electrician for 5 years so that's about my only reference on this haha

dull ginkgo May 10, 2021, 1:39 AM

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Higher LLC levels tend lead to higher heat and higher temps.

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 1:40 AM

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oh I found something mentioning LLC in a sub-menu ("DigitALL Power")

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It just says Mode 2 which is what MSI's website said to se it at

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but they also put the offset at +51 & called it a day. They're not very ambitious apparently

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Hmm there's 8 Modes. "The CPU voltage will decrease proportionally according to CPU loading. Higher [LLC] . . . higher voltage . . . good [OC]."

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Mode 1 increases w/ load. Mode 2 stays flat. Mode 3-8 increasingly drop w/ load.

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Current setting is #2.

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eh let's see what #3 does & I'll put voltage at 1.35v so it drops below that level under heavy load

dull ginkgo May 10, 2021, 1:47 AM

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I'm not too familiar with the specifics with Intel OC, never messed with them, I just know the underlying principles behind it, so you probably want someone else to help with specific settings xD

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 1:48 AM

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Doesn't Ryzen have lower tolerance for OC/it's powerful enough stock that it doesn't really warrant messing w/ anyway?

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My next build I wanna do Ryzen 9

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Threadripper would be great but a $3k CPU is crazy talk

dull ginkgo May 10, 2021, 1:50 AM

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Ryzen just doesn't scale well with manual OC, PBO can basically do what most people can do, but better.

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 1:51 AM

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AMD squeezes the majority of the performance of their processors at stock (since Zen2)

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So manual overclocks don't do much, and can even reduce performance in single threaded loads because single cores can boost higher

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 1:52 AM

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modern walrus Mode 1 increases w/ load. Mode 2 stays flat. Mode 3-8 increasingly drop w/ load.

You don't want to use mode 1 or 2. You actually want vdroop. It's generally better to run higher set voltage and have it droop lower under load, than to set a low, relatively constant voltage

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 1:53 AM

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okay I set Mode 3

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other thing:

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 1:53 AM

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I would try even lower

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Mode 4 or 5, depending on how droopy they are

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 1:54 AM

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That Multi-core enhancement thing is apparently called Enhanced Turbo on MSI

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 1:54 AM

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You could get away with setting 1.425 or more at lower LLC

left bladeBOT May 10, 2021, 1:54 AM

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ggood003#6858 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 1:54 AM

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oh shoot bad words sorry

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I am going to disable that feature

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okay I'll drop it to Mode 4 then

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voltage 1.425

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hmm that's lit up red like it's a bad idea lol

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 1:56 AM

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As long as you have a lower LLC it should be fine

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Also I believe MCE doesn't matter for a manual OC

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 1:57 AM

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oh okay. the video said if you don't disable it the default settings could overwrite values you enter or something like that

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someone said it on a video so it must be true right?

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okay I moved it to mode 5, which is approximately a 67.5 degree angle

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of decrease relative to load

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(halfway between 90 & 45 degree)

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alright well I'm gonna F10 & get ready for liftoff then

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btw can you set vdroop on GPU too?

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will download OCCT btw instead of Cinebench

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:04 AM

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modern walrus oh okay. the video said if you don't disable it the default settings could overw...

It overwrites some settings, but I don't remember everything it does other than power limits

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:04 AM

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Does it matter if I have like an OSD on to see temps during tests?

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:04 AM

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Also you should use hwinfo and monitor your system. Particularly vCore under load

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:05 AM

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modern walrus Does it matter if I have like an OSD on to see temps during tests?

Might affect benchmark scores, shouldn't affect stability

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:05 AM

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okay cool I'll look for that. I was gonna use CPU-Z or just watch in Afterburner

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I'll look for that now

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:05 AM

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https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:06 AM

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installer or portable?

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:06 AM

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You can choose portable or installer, depending on if you want to run temporarily or have it available all the time

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:07 AM

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alright I'll do installer

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:07 AM

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I have it installed because I use it frequently

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I believe on Intel, the most accurate metric for vCore is VR VOUT

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:07 AM

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oh alright I'll get that instead then

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Forks or @tall pelican can confirm

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:10 AM

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apparently VR VOUT measures actual voltage going into core

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Vcore no bueno apparently

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:11 AM

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Yeah so VR VOUT is the important one

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You should also overclock your ring bus

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After you stabilize your core

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:12 AM

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I saw that. No idea what it is but I saw it

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:13 AM

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Ring bus affects inter core communications, and I believe the memory subsystem as well

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:14 AM

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I wouldn't even know where to start

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okay getting OCCT rn

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:15 AM

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There should be a multiplier in your BIOS somewhere indicating ring bus speed

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Haven't touched an intel BIOS in years though

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:17 AM

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Ryzen is that much better?

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I wanted to do Ryzen with this build but the 9s where nowhere to be found

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:18 AM

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I don't upgrade often and ryzen was the best choice for me at the time(s)

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:18 AM

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ah I finally found the vcore

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Yeah they're tough to get ahold of. Although stock has just gotten better. I grabbed a 5800X initially and upgraded to a 5900X when I got one

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Ignore the listed vCore. You should monitor VR VOUT

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More importantly, how much that drops down to under load

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:19 AM

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oh shoot that's right

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:20 AM

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You should be fine if it's 1.35 or less under load. If it's more, consider dropping your set voltage, or your LLC

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:20 AM

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I see.

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So at a fundamental level, instability is just overpowering the core & shutting down/green screen of fun is core protecting itself from damage?

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:22 AM

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That would be thermal instability, which you should not be getting close to. If your temperatures exceed 90-95C under AVX load you'll have to scale back your OC

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Your cooling should be fine though, so the instability you will more likely see is crashes/errors during load

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Those happen if you force your CPU to go too fast

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Generally, more voltage will allow you to go faster, but of course you don't want voltage too high because that will degrade your processor over time

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:24 AM

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darn I cannot find this VROUT thing

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I set the AVX offset to -9

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I see it's like when a motor spins too fast & exceeds its redline type deal

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:26 AM

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modern walrus btw can you set vdroop on GPU too?

Forgot about this question until now. GPU power delivery is much more locked off in general. I'm pretty sure they droop automatically, but there's not much you can do (without physical modding) since it's all pretty closed off. GPUs typically run up to a power limit and try to stay within that power limkt

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:27 AM

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You think CPU System Agent voltage or CPU I/O voltage is a good stand in?

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:27 AM

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modern walrus darn I cannot find this VROUT thing

Can you send a screenshot of what you see on hwinfo?

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:27 AM

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modern walrus You think CPU System Agent voltage or CPU I/O voltage is a good stand in?

No, that's completely separate

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:27 AM

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I wasn't aware I could send screenshots on here

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I hid every value except voltages to try to make it easier

sudden torrent May 10, 2021, 2:28 AM

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Once your name turns green you're past level 3, so you can send pics

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:28 AM

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you might have enough level to send it now? but that's ok, you can DM

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:30 AM

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ok working on it

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Shoot let me screen shot cuz that looks terrible

cunning shard May 10, 2021, 2:31 AM

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guys is 1.35 voltage good or should i lower it , for 3.9GHz R5 2600 ?

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:35 AM

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I wish I knew. I'm in the process of figuring this all out

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Here's a clearer version

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For what it's worth, this computer is running fine (the OC one) before I hit the stress test

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:41 AM

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can you show everything (don't hide anything) and take another set of screenshots?

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:45 AM

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modern walrus Here's a clearer version

I think it's under the section you have collapsed

tall pelican May 10, 2021, 2:45 AM

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clever epoch Forks or <@193597009360453633> can confirm

question answered? (dont want to read through chat)

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:45 AM

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ok let me look

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:45 AM

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most accurate metric for voltage on intel is VR VOUT

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@tall pelican

tall pelican May 10, 2021, 2:46 AM

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yeah

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:46 AM

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also while you're here

tall pelican May 10, 2021, 2:46 AM

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only some boards have it though

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:46 AM

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max safe voltage under load for 10900k?

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oh interesting

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what's your next best reading?

tall pelican May 10, 2021, 2:46 AM

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1.42v and/or 255A

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:46 AM

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if VR VOUT isn't an option

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ah interesting

tall pelican May 10, 2021, 2:46 AM

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vcore, and just know it'll be higher than actual

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:46 AM

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ok

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@modern walrus you should be good for 1.45V set, with moderate LLC then

tall pelican May 10, 2021, 2:47 AM

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which board is it? I see msi z490 mpg something

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ik msi meg has vr vout

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:48 AM

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looking at other screenshots, I think it should be under this section (if it exists)

tall pelican May 10, 2021, 2:49 AM

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if it was there, that would be the place, or it will be fan speeds and mobo temp readings

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:50 AM

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here's the megladon pic lol

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:50 AM

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huh

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I guess he doesn't have it

tall pelican May 10, 2021, 2:50 AM

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click settings, and go to layout, then see if anything's hidden

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modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:56 AM

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I enabled

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every single thing possible

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& expanded all of them

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:57 AM

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guess you don't have it then

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:57 AM

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well isn't that frustrating

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heck

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:57 AM

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you'll have to use vcore as a gauge, and just know it's a bit higher than actual core voltage

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:57 AM

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lol

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:57 AM

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did you stability test yet?

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:57 AM

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not yet I've been trying to figure out where the heck this sensor is hiding

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:58 AM

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which one?

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I don't think your board has VR VOUT

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 2:58 AM

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that one. VR VOUT

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 2:58 AM

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yeah I don't think your board has it

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Fitz said that not every board has it

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 3:00 AM

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well gaming carbon wifi ftw

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ah to heck with it. I'm gonna run the test

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load type variable or steady?

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 3:05 AM

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Not sure tbh. Go with steady for now

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Or whatever the default is

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I'd go up to 1.45V set and try 5.3+

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If your vCore 1.42 or less under load, you should be fine

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 3:08 AM

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hell why not haha

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 3:08 AM

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And temperatures under 95

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 3:08 AM

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I'll reset now

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 3:08 AM

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Stability test for 10+ minutes. If no errors, keep bumping up the frequency

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 3:08 AM

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start at 53?

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 3:09 AM

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If it seems stable at 52 I'd say go for it

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Are your temperatures under 90?

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 3:09 AM

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The lights are blue. It's sub-70

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This is the real question tho

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 3:11 AM

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Yeah give it a try

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 3:11 AM

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clever epoch May 10, 2021, 3:11 AM

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modern walrus

You can see the ring ratio there. That's what you want to adjust after you finalize your core frequency

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 3:11 AM

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I'm set at 5

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 3:12 AM

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LLC looks reasonable

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 3:12 AM

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Will do

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Alright cool I'll save & go for it

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Guess I didn't install OCCT fully yet. How anticlimactic

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green screen as soon as I opened it

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let's try some more vdroop I guess

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even more anticlimactic

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lol green screen on log in screen

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bruh

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whats the difference b/t dynamic & fixed CPU ratio mode?

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 3:29 AM

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modern walrus whats the difference b/t dynamic & fixed CPU ratio mode?

Dynamic is automatic boosting. Fixed is static (manual) CPU speed

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 3:29 AM

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think switching to fixed would do anything?

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 3:29 AM

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Also increasing vdroop will only reduce stability. You'd want to reduce vdroop (increase voltage under load)

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You should already be in fixed mode?

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 3:30 AM

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Haven't touched it

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 3:32 AM

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Yeah idk what it means specifically then

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 3:36 AM

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this is getting bananas

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I'll pop it in fixed mode. why not at this point? looking like I'm gonna be hitting that restore default settings sometime soon lol

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 3:39 AM

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Hopefully not :p

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Unfortunately I don't have much more to offer you at this point other than to try and maximize frequency while making sure your vCore reading is less than 1.42V. you might want to go to LLC3 (don't go any higher than that)

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And then try your ring ratio

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 3:44 AM

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no worries

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you've taught me a ton of stuff actually

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don't mess with ring ratio until after initial OC?

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btw does it matter that I OC my GPU first? like are they mutually exclusive or could the GPU OC be messin up the CPU somehow?

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 3:47 AM

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Something I just remembered: try non-AVX tests first, stabilize that, and then adjust the AVX offset to stabilize AVX tests

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 3:48 AM

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Should I set that to some crazy high number to avoid it?

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or where do I find non-AVX tests?

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 3:50 AM

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modern walrus don't mess with ring ratio until after initial OC?

Yeah core OC is more important, you should leave ring OC for later

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 3:51 AM

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modern walrus btw does it matter that I OC my GPU first? like are they mutually exclusive or c...

Doesn't matter as long as they're stable

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 3:51 AM

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modern walrus Should I set that to some crazy high number to avoid it?

OCCT should have AVX and non AVX stress options for CPU

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P95 is also non AVX

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 3:56 AM

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okay I got it to boot

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well it opened

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I don't see AVX option only CPU: OCCT or CPU: LINPACK

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 3:59 AM

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Hmm I'll have to check OCCT myself later, could have sworn there was an option

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 4:01 AM

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okay well I started nonetheless

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wamp

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green screen

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heck

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well... should I drop the voltage? I running out of ideas

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hmm I wonder why if any voltage 1.36+ is red

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 4:39 AM

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modern walrus hmm I wonder why if any voltage 1.36+ is red

Because that's technically in the "danger zone" for voltage. If you have decent cooling and control your LLC you should be fine though

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You could try 1.4 with LLC2, just for testing

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 4:44 AM

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I see.

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I've been reading forums where the consensus seems to be that you have to be "lucky" to get 52+. I might just set it to 51 for now & do some more homework on it

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The frustrating thing is I haven't been able to find anyone talking specifically about MSI bios

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So whatever random stuff they throw on there to get their numbers up for marketing isn't easily identifiable

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gamernexus has a long video about how motherboard manufacturers basically OC without OC

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Seems like nonsense but you'd probably understand it better than I would

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well better than I did rather

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I mean even at +51 it's been a pretty productive day. I got my GPU OC & my CPU

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Can't thank you enough for your help btw

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I learned a lot even if mostly trial & error

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meaning like I don't know how to control the machine yet but I know what a lot more of the buttons & levers do now

clever epoch May 10, 2021, 4:52 AM

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modern walrus I learned a lot even if mostly trial & error

OC is mostly trial and error 😛

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 4:52 AM

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haha ya I kinda learned that with the GPU but there you're really only worried about 2 variables

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CPU its 10 variables + a bunch of mystery settings

sudden torrent May 10, 2021, 4:54 AM

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Plus the bios doesn't explain those settings very well, "xyz level setting affects xyz level"

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 4:54 AM

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totally. Half the explanations leave you with more questions than answers

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others are completely worthless &/or obvious. "changes CPU mode from 'fixed' to 'dynamic'"

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like oh thanks

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do y'all use User Benchmark at all? I swear I have so many problems with that thing. I like that it gives you the online comparison when it works but half the time I get some error about sequential writes on my SSDs

quick rose May 10, 2021, 5:02 AM

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UBM is garbage

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 5:03 AM

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I wonder if I can overclock the GTX 1660 Ti in my SurfaceBook? 🤔🤔

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ya I agree

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ever use 3dmark? I got it off Steam

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I guess my next mission is OC my RAM haha

sudden torrent May 10, 2021, 5:06 AM

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3dmark is good

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 5:06 AM

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Ya I used it a bunch of times today. I was so proud cuz I got up from like 9400 to 10001

sudden torrent May 10, 2021, 5:06 AM

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Normally you can't overclock laptop model gpu

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 5:07 AM

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oh ya? I guess that makes sense

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it's already 800 degrees in that laptop

sudden torrent May 10, 2021, 5:07 AM

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They're very precise about what wattage is available

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 5:08 AM

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I like the surfacebook but that thing gets hot

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super hot

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same with the surface go

sudden torrent May 10, 2021, 5:08 AM

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Cooling pad?

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 5:08 AM

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which is cool to have but Android/iPad tablets are way more versitile

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at least for little crap like paying app type games

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I got one of those ones you put on your lap with a fan in it

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it works alright

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the thing is with the surface book, most of the computer except for like an extra battery & the nVIDIA GPU is in the screen half of the laptop

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cuz it has to standalone when you detatch it

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detach

sudden torrent May 10, 2021, 5:10 AM

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Yeah I could see that being a problem still then

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 5:11 AM

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I've never even tried to use it outside or anything. I bet that would not go well

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The most recent firmware update kinda fixed it tho. It doesn't get nearly as hot

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you can read about people having the thing get super hot & making the screen bulge & crack

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It's a cool concept when it works right tho

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Are you supposed to get +1000mHz OC on a 3060? what's wrong with mine? lol

proven canopy May 10, 2021, 5:28 AM

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On the memory? Possible, but not expected

modern walrus May 10, 2021, 5:53 AM

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alright cool. I'm good with my +725 then

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why don't more people do this? I thought it was clever

dark ferry May 10, 2021, 1:24 PM

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Probably because the extra airflow doesn't amount to much. Most of us have 3 intake and 3 exhaust already in cases that already have good airflow.

sterile flame May 10, 2021, 3:43 PM

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dark ferry Probably because the extra airflow doesn't amount to much. Most of us have 3 int...

it does

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VRAM cooling is very needed when using it to 100% or mining

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cheaper to hook up a fan to the back than repad

dark ferry May 10, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Didn't know he was mining.

sterile flame May 10, 2021, 4:20 PM

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??

tired cypress May 10, 2021, 4:22 PM

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Not quite 120mh on the 3090, however i could turn off my screens and close discord

zenith palm May 10, 2021, 4:33 PM

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You must have pads and a fan on the back of that X)

robust aurora May 10, 2021, 5:21 PM

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Whats your vram temp@tired cypress

tired cypress May 10, 2021, 5:22 PM

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Junction temps hover between 94 and 96

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sterile flame May 10, 2021, 5:59 PM

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tired cypress

thats not your temp

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go to HwInfo

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"memory junction temperature"

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unless you're waterlooped thats core

tired cypress May 10, 2021, 6:07 PM

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I know, that's what I'm reading from

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proven canopy May 10, 2021, 6:09 PM

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🌶️

tired cypress May 10, 2021, 6:13 PM

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Imo it's much more comfortable than it was before mods

zenith palm May 10, 2021, 6:49 PM

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That's a lot better than 110 lol

cobalt rapids May 10, 2021, 8:58 PM

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+150 core/+1000 mem brings my 3070's time spy score from 13626 to 14823

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people say they get upwards of 2100-2150MHz with lower oc boosts but mine seems to peak around 2080, is that silicon lottery or should I just keep pushing

tall pelican May 10, 2021, 9:07 PM

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silicon lottery + cooling

agile flame May 10, 2021, 9:35 PM

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Anyone here brought a 3060ti over +500 on memory?

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I have mine on
+105
+500
Maxed voltage n temp

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Max temp I've ever seen is 63c whilst gaming

agile flame May 10, 2021, 9:37 PM

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agile flame Anyone here brought a 3060ti over +500 on memory?

I did +750 and it crashed after like 40ish minutes

sudden torrent May 10, 2021, 9:46 PM

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agile flame Anyone here brought a 3060ti over +500 on memory?

I have my non-ti 3060 at +1400 mining

agile flame May 10, 2021, 9:48 PM

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Maybe I'm doing something wrong then

sudden torrent May 10, 2021, 9:51 PM

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Or you're just unlucky, or the temps are too high.
Mine sits around 42C on a bad day.

cobalt rapids May 10, 2021, 9:58 PM

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I sorta doubt it's cooling but it could be, my card never reports higher than like 65, 75 hotspot

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cooler fat because it's the same one from their 3080 design lul

sudden torrent May 10, 2021, 10:24 PM

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Yeah I've got the 3 fan, overbuilt tuf oc model 3060. Maxing everything out overclocking and doing furmark it doesn't hit 70 with the fan at 50% lol

sterile flame May 10, 2021, 10:35 PM

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@agile flame is it by chance a gigaturd 3060ti?

sterile flame May 10, 2021, 10:48 PM

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tired cypress Not quite 120mh on the 3090, however i could turn off my screens and close disco...

bruh i have a 3090 and i get like 100mh

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could you pass me your settings or anything?

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i use nicehash quick miner

quick rose May 10, 2021, 10:50 PM

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sterile flame bruh i have a 3090 and i get like 100mh

Mem clock up, core clock down, power limit to 65 or so, fans to 70%

sterile flame May 10, 2021, 10:53 PM

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yea but like i was asking for values

quick rose May 10, 2021, 10:53 PM

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Well, each card will be different

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Numbers for theirs may not work for yours

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Take the core down 200 mhz to start and the memory up until you lose MH/s efficiency

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Then take the core down until MH/s is affected

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Then test power limit for the same

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It's just like overclocking, what works for one card may not work for others

sterile flame May 10, 2021, 10:54 PM

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ah i see

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i thought of like having that as a template

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and then work around with that preseet values that he has

quick rose May 10, 2021, 10:55 PM

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Try -200 core, +1000 mem and 65 power limit, fans at 70%

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adding thermal pads to your backplate will help also

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Since you have GDDR6X

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Might not be able to OC ram as far due to heat without them

sterile flame May 10, 2021, 10:56 PM

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i dont have thermal pads as of now, but i am planning to purchase them. I only mine on my free time say like when im sleeping or something

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will changing those stuff affect my gameplay performance?

quick rose May 10, 2021, 10:56 PM

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Possibly

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Game will run but with less FPS, possibly artifacting from memory overclock

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most of us use MSI Afterburner with a Game and Mining profile

sterile flame May 10, 2021, 10:57 PM

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oh wait i can do that as well lol i forgot about different profiles

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i use the asus one

agile flame May 10, 2021, 11:03 PM

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sterile flame <@!438753157531566081> is it by chance a gigaturd 3060ti?

unsure I have a gigabyte something something

zenith palm May 10, 2021, 11:10 PM

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cobalt rapids people say they get upwards of 2100-2150MHz with lower oc boosts but mine seems ...

Mine peaked at 150core but i could push mem to like +1150 before artifacts iirc

zenith palm May 10, 2021, 11:13 PM

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sterile flame <@!438753157531566081> is it by chance a gigaturd 3060ti?

Doubt it's a gigabyte problem i get +1300 stable on my 3070 while mining

sterile flame May 10, 2021, 11:46 PM

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what size of thermal pads should i get for my 3090/

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?

calm sequoia May 11, 2021, 12:02 AM

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at least 3

sterile flame May 11, 2021, 12:02 AM

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zenith palm Doubt it's a gigabyte problem i get +1300 stable on my 3070 while mining

Pads/cooling

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Nonexistent on gigaturd

proven canopy May 11, 2021, 12:50 AM

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sterile flame what size of thermal pads should i get for my 3090/

Depends on the card? what model? Googling site:reddit.com (model) thermal pads should find some thread with info

sterile flame May 11, 2021, 12:59 AM

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proven canopy Depends on the card? what model? Googling site:reddit.com (model) thermal pads ...

Strix 3090

tired cypress May 11, 2021, 1:29 AM

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sterile flame what size of thermal pads should i get for my 3090/

https://www.norbert-the-great.com/index.php?entry=Solved:-RTX-3090-VRAM-Overheating

Norbert the Great - Solved: RTX 3090 VRAM Overheating

Norbert the Great is a counterculture blog covering technology, crypto, gpu mining, weed, politics, philosophy, activism, and whatever else comes to mind.

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Costs a little extra to mod, but the gains are well worth it

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Also, @SlimShady , refer to this brief guide (You will need Afterburner) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isXErQpXBtg

YouTube

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How to: 120mh/s mining Ethereum on your RTX 3090 - Best settings an...

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sterile flame May 11, 2021, 2:26 AM

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tired cypress Also, @SlimShady , refer to this brief guide (You will need Afterburner) - https...

gotcha thanks mate

sterile flame May 11, 2021, 2:33 AM

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tired cypress Costs a little extra to mod, but the gains are well worth it

do you have the name of the fan that hes using>

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?

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i cant seem to find one in amazon.ca

tired cypress May 11, 2021, 3:05 AM

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i use a noctua 1700

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2 actually

zenith palm May 11, 2021, 9:23 AM

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sterile flame Pads/cooling

Ik but i still get +1300 on my gigabyte 3070

robust aurora May 11, 2021, 9:32 AM

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@zenith palm the 3060ti v2 is realy bad i have heard

zenith palm May 11, 2021, 9:32 AM

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Ohh fair

robust aurora May 11, 2021, 9:32 AM

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They removed the heatsink from it

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 11:29 AM

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good morning. Can anyone tell me where OC temps are too high? 80+? I'm running OCCT (w/o AVX Capable Linpack checked) & seeing jumps up to 86. I can't understand why it gets so high only running at 51. Is my AIO just mediocre or should I redo the thermal paste?

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yikes just hit 87 on Core 4

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it's like that for less than 2 about 2 seconds tho

zenith palm May 11, 2021, 11:30 AM

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Depends what cpu and what aio you have

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And 87 isnt a temp i would worry about

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 11:31 AM

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Voltage is max 1.35 & average 1.323

zenith palm May 11, 2021, 11:31 AM

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You can always make your fan curve more aggressive

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 11:31 AM

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10900K w/ 360 Coolermaster Silver

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I have all fan curves set to 100% >75degrees

zenith palm May 11, 2021, 11:31 AM

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Wouldn't worry about the temps but it's a meh aio

zenith palm May 11, 2021, 11:32 AM

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modern walrus I have all fan curves set to 100% >75degrees

But what does the rest of your curve look like

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 11:32 AM

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It's push/pull w/ the 3 stock 120s pulling & 2 200mm Thermaltake Riing Trios pushing

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I think 10.68 volts at 65 degrees

zenith palm May 11, 2021, 11:33 AM

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Can you just show the fan curve?

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 11:33 AM

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ya let me cancel this test & restart

zenith palm May 11, 2021, 11:33 AM

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Okay

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 11:33 AM

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give me a minute

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That's pretty much where they're all set

zenith palm May 11, 2021, 11:37 AM

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The fans basically aren't turning on til 50c or so

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And never go to 100% if needed

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 11:37 AM

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it shows 12V at 75

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they're not pwm so I have to set volts

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12 is max

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I'll drop them to 100% at what? 65?

zenith palm May 11, 2021, 11:39 AM

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That's a bit confusing of a graph but I'd do something like this i think

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 11:39 AM

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Something like that look better?

zenith palm May 11, 2021, 11:40 AM

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Can you not just do percentages with dc fans? That's what i can do, weird

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 11:41 AM

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No just voltages

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But 6 is 50%, 9 75%

zenith palm May 11, 2021, 11:41 AM

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It looks like they aren't spinning til 50c tho no?

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Or is it just the graph being weird

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 11:42 AM

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40

zenith palm May 11, 2021, 11:42 AM

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Ahh okay

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 11:42 AM

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But they're always spinning from what I can see

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I have 6 fans & the AIO

zenith palm May 11, 2021, 11:42 AM

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I would make it so the fans spin about 30% from 0-30c if possible

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 11:43 AM

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Alright thank you

zenith palm May 11, 2021, 11:43 AM

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Just helps if they don't have to keep turning on and off longevity wise afaik

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 11:43 AM

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2 of the 200mms don't show because ttrgb controls them

zenith palm May 11, 2021, 11:43 AM

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I see

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 11:45 AM

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what do you think 100% by like 55 degrees? or lower?

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You think the fan curves are the problem? i.e. why I'm hitting such high temps?

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I think I need to flip the top 200mms to be exhaust fans

zenith palm May 11, 2021, 11:57 AM

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I usually do 100% at like 70 or 80

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Ohh yeah if you have the top fans as intake that would help switching them

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 12:00 PM

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I just dunno why it's so darn hot at 51

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the CPU ratio I mean

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I read where people are getting 52-53 no problem

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 12:23 PM

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Shouldn't the voltage be fixed? i.e. HWiNFO shows minimum voltage as my input 1.325 but maximum at 1.405. Shouldn't the max & minimum be the same/

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:42 PM

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modern walrus It's push/pull w/ the 3 stock 120s pulling & 2 200mm Thermaltake Riing Trios pus...

I would push with the 3 stock fans. Pull really doesnt do much for an aio

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:44 PM

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then the problem would be I couldn't use the 2 200s

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:45 PM

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modern walrus then the problem would be I couldn't use the 2 200s

You dont have to use every fan you have in a pc

quick rose May 11, 2021, 2:45 PM

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200's spin slower and therefor don't have the the pressure for rads

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Not ideal

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:45 PM

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Also what voltages are you running the chip at in the bios?

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Just pushing with stock fans will make a big difference tbh

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:46 PM

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I'm not sure yet

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because I'm trying to get the OC working

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:46 PM

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Dont use the 200s anywhere on the rad

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:46 PM

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at 52

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:46 PM

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what voltage

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not core multiplier

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:46 PM

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I'm starting at 1.300

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:46 PM

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also what is your LLC on?

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:47 PM

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mode 2

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which is essentially flat

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:47 PM

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also what mobo?

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:47 PM

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MSI MPG gaming carbon wifi

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:47 PM

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modern walrus which is essentially flat

what?

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:47 PM

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modern walrus MSI MPG gaming carbon wifi

chipset?

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:47 PM

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10900K

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:47 PM

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490 or 590

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:47 PM

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i9

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490

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:47 PM

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modern walrus 10900K

chipset not cpu

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:47 PM

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sorry ya 490

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:47 PM

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modern walrus 490

ok 1 sec

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:48 PM

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okay

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:48 PM

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check what ur load line calibration is on once

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:48 PM

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okay it's mode 2 which basically doesn't droop at all

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:48 PM

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Ok nice

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:49 PM

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sorry not 52, 53

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:50 PM

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The gaming carbon wifi is also kinda meh for overclocking tbh

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horrible heatsyncs

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:51 PM

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I'm thinking it's a mistake to be on Windows Insider. I have preview build but it seems to make things worse

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darn really? that's no good

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maybe I should be happy I was almost stable at 52

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problem was I was at 1.36v. Is that too high? it was red when I input it lol

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:52 PM

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I would set voltage to 1.4V to begin with and then get the core multiplier as high as I could go while maintaining stability

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:52 PM

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ohh

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see I was setting the multiplier then tweaking voltage

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i.e. the opposite approach

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:53 PM

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1.4 for 10900k is complete;y fine daily driver

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:53 PM

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the other issue is should the voltage be completely fixed

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:53 PM

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If you hit thermal limits reduce voltage slightly and try again

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:53 PM

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modern walrus the other issue is should the voltage be completely fixed

nope

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:53 PM

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okay nvm on that then

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:54 PM

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It will fluctuate. You are just setting the maximum limit

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:54 PM

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that's strange then.

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I set the max at 1.360 & HWiNFO was showing the max at 1.44 or something like that

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 2:55 PM

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What value you changing to change the cpu vltage?

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:55 PM

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What's really awful is I gotta re-enter Bitlocker code on every reset

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all 40 digits

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1.300 right now

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should I up it you think?

analog tartan May 11, 2021, 2:55 PM

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amd rx 580 1366 mhz how high do you think i can safely go

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8gb

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 2:56 PM

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just bumped to 1.350

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meh 1.4. wouldn't boot

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what's considered "too high?"

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booted. now shows min 1.404, max 1.485. 1.485 seems pretty high no?

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jeez now showing max voltage at 1.535. That has to be for sure too high

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:16 PM

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What value you changing?

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:17 PM

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voltage

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:17 PM

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What value under voltage...

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:18 PM

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sorry I'm a total noob here

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CPU core voltage I believe

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:18 PM

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CPU Vcore?

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:18 PM

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yes

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short blade May 11, 2021, 3:20 PM

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1.535?

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:20 PM

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I know that's not where I change voltage I was just showing you what everything is reading because it actually got past log-in screen

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:20 PM

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say goodbye to your cpu soon

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:20 PM

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ya way too high huh?

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:20 PM

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short blade 1.535?

Vcore is 1.4

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:21 PM

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you should never overclock on auto voltage

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NEVER

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first of all what cooling setup do you have

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:21 PM

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okay how do I do it right?

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360 AIO

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& umm

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:21 PM

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i was seeing thermal throttling on all 8 cores of a 10700K with a 360mm AIO, 5 fans, mesh case, and no gpu

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at 1.35V

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:21 PM

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4 200MMs & a 140

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mesh case

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& yes GPU

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RTX3060 ASUS TUF

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:22 PM

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10900K at auto voltage 5.3ghz will probably recreate chernobyl

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:22 PM

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did you change up the fan mounting on the rad like vintage and I suggested btw?

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:22 PM

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that I awesomely got from the newegg shuffle I might add

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:22 PM

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hold on i need to remember how MSI does LLC

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:23 PM

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I'd have to remove front case fans for that

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:23 PM

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okay msi llc is lower number = lower vdroop

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:23 PM

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I'm on Mode 2

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:23 PM

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JESUS

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:23 PM

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which is basically no vdroop

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:23 PM

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MODE 2 WITH AUTO VOLTAGE

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TURN IT OFF

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:24 PM

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How do I turn off Auto voltage?

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:24 PM

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type manual override voltage into bios

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:24 PM

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It's on Override

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:24 PM

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1.35v mode 4

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:24 PM

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the setting

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Mode 4?

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:24 PM

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start at 5ghz

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:25 PM

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I had it stable at 5.2 lol

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:25 PM

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no offense but considering what i'm reading here

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:25 PM

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I got overly ambitious

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:25 PM

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1.4 is safe for 10900k as well right?

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:25 PM

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i would bet a 10900K you don't know what stable means

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:25 PM

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well it went thru about an hour of OCCT stress

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but I concede

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I know nothing

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:25 PM

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lavish tundra 1.4 is safe for 10900k as well right?

maybe if you have sub-ambient cooling

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:26 PM

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full disclosure

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I know nothing

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:26 PM

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1 hour is not enough for stability

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i've had overclocks crash 15 hours in

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:26 PM

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okay fair enough

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:26 PM

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i also run a much heavier load than occt

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:26 PM

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short blade maybe if you have sub-ambient cooling

I read its fine daily with a decent aio

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:27 PM

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well i was seeing thermal throttling with less cores and less voltage lol

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:27 PM

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modern walrus well it went thru about an hour of OCCT stress

I personally run stress tests and use the profile for a full day or 2 before calling it stable

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:27 PM

#

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:27 PM

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short blade well i was seeing thermal throttling with less cores and less voltage lol

Ah makes sense

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:27 PM

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I am going to follow orders to the T here

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:27 PM

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start at mode 4 and see how vdroop handles it

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iirc mode 3 and lower actually causes increased voltage under load

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which might be why you were seeing such insane voltages if you really put an override voltage

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:28 PM

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short blade May 11, 2021, 3:28 PM

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you should keep ring ratio oced to 300mhz below core ratio

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ring ratio is very important for performance

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:29 PM

#

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:29 PM

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now go put 1.35v in override voltage

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:30 PM

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short blade May 11, 2021, 3:30 PM

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good

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wait why is your dram voltage at 1.5v

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:30 PM

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um

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tbh

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youtube video

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lol

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oh you must hate me

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lol

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:31 PM

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did you do manual ram oc?

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or did the video just tell you to put 1.5v on xmp...

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:31 PM

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the latter

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:31 PM

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alright

barren ridge May 11, 2021, 3:31 PM

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dang

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:31 PM

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next step is report that youtube video

barren ridge May 11, 2021, 3:31 PM

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that's bad advice

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horrible even

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:31 PM

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that person is a nonredeemable idiot and should never be allowed to own a computer ever again

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just give them a macbook

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:32 PM

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BPS Customs

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is where I got it

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:32 PM

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change it back to 1.35v

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:32 PM

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okay

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:32 PM

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it's 3800 18-22-22-42 that's not exactly 1.5v material

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i use 1.5v to run 3800 14-12/18-18-34

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:32 PM

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short blade May 11, 2021, 3:33 PM

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your auto SA/IO look really high

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:33 PM

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So basically with the stuff you were doing before snail showed up, you would have fried ur pc faster than a gigabyte P-GM power supply

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:33 PM

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but i wonder if that's just because dram was set to 1.5v for some reason

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:33 PM

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They're Trident Z Neo 32x2 (also newegg 😄 )

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:33 PM

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oh yeah absolutely your cpu would probably be dead before the month ended

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go ahead and boot

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:33 PM

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copy that

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:33 PM

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Oh btw lemme tell you a secret... no one here really buys stuff from newegg

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:33 PM

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see what it reports for VCCSA/VCCIO in hwinfo64

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i do

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i've spent way too much money on newegg

mint mountain May 11, 2021, 3:34 PM

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lavish tundra Oh btw lemme tell you a secret... no one here really buys stuff from newegg

I do, when it’s out of stock on Amazon

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:34 PM

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mint mountain I do, when it’s out of stock on Amazon

amazon first tho

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:34 PM

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i just buy wherever i can get the part i want cheapest

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half the time that's newegg

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:34 PM

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short blade i just buy wherever i can get the part i want cheapest

same

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:34 PM

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spent like 20k on newegg this year

analog tartan May 11, 2021, 3:34 PM

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lavish tundra Oh btw lemme tell you a secret... no one here really buys stuff from newegg

i built my pc on newegg

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:35 PM

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short blade i just buy wherever i can get the part i want cheapest

oh one caveat i will avoid b&h

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will gladly pay a bit more to buy from somewhere that's not b&h

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:35 PM

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I use amazon a lot just cuz it arrives so much faster

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:35 PM

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short blade oh one caveat i will avoid b&h

why tho?

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:35 PM

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racist company

analog tartan May 11, 2021, 3:35 PM

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modern walrus I use amazon a lot just cuz it arrives so much faster

thats understandable

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:35 PM

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has racially segregated bathrooms in the workplace

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like what year is it again??

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:36 PM

#

analog tartan May 11, 2021, 3:36 PM

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short blade has racially segregated bathrooms in the workplace

WOAH

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:36 PM

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vccio/vccsa are really high still

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then again, maybe that's needed to run 2x32gb

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oh just to make sure your ram's xmp is rated for 1.35v right? or is it higher

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:37 PM

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maybe because they're aRGB?

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:37 PM

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nah that has nothing to do with it

analog tartan May 11, 2021, 3:37 PM

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modern walrus maybe because they're aRGB?

no

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:37 PM

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short blade has racially segregated bathrooms in the workplace

Bruhhh

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:37 PM

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I know that slows down NVMes

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:37 PM

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ram rgb can have some impact on extreme ram overclocking

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:37 PM

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but anyway

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:37 PM

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but 3800c18 xmp is not extreme overclocking

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anyways go run some prime95 small ffts

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:38 PM

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they're rated 3800. They're set at 3866

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:38 PM

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see if it ded

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:38 PM

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modern walrus they're rated 3800. They're set at 3866

Go with what they are rated for mate

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I wouldnt overclock em further

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:38 PM

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yes just stick to xmp

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unless you want to manually tune timings

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:38 PM

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not after running em at 1.5V for how many days?

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:38 PM

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okay I'll change that

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:39 PM

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raising the speed without touching anything else can cause the mobo to train worse secondary/tertiary timings to boot

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like

analog tartan May 11, 2021, 3:39 PM

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i don't overclock too much cos i'm afraid of frying something with things that are more out of stock recently

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:39 PM

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you have the highest tRFC i've ever seen

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:39 PM

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I changed them yesterday and now they're back. COmputer was off overnight

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:39 PM

#

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holy bananas

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:39 PM

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so maybe like 8-10 hours?

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:39 PM

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1023 tRFC

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:39 PM

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oh wow um

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what's that?

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:39 PM

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modern walrus I changed them yesterday and now they're back. COmputer was off overnight

did you run that 1hr of occt with the ram voltage at 1.5V?

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:39 PM

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my cheap laptop ram is running 462 tRFC

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:39 PM

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short blade my cheap laptop ram is running 462 tRFC

Thats not good

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thats very not nice

analog tartan May 11, 2021, 3:40 PM

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short blade my cheap laptop ram is running 462 tRFC

yeowch

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:40 PM

#

?

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:40 PM

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okay well you're all speaking some alien language I don't understand

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lol

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:40 PM

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lower tRFC is better

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:40 PM

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oh

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mine sucks bad words then

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:40 PM

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lower everything except voltage and clock better in pcs

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:41 PM

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462 tRFC @ 2933 MT/s = 315ns
1023 tRFC @ 3866 MT/s = 529ns

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:41 PM

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ouch

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:41 PM

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considering that's a latency measurement

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lower is better yes

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:41 PM

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ram upgrade time yet?

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:41 PM

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nah

analog tartan May 11, 2021, 3:41 PM

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lol

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:41 PM

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lol this RAM was new in February

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:41 PM

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ram overclocking is only for the few enthusiasts that really care about it

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xmp is fine

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:42 PM

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lavish tundra did you run that 1hr of occt with the ram voltage at 1.5V?

@modern walrus

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:42 PM

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he has a 3060 he's gonna be hard gpu bottlenecked anyways

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:42 PM

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short blade ram overclocking is only for the few enthusiasts that really care about it

Laughs in overclocked 3600 mhz ram

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:42 PM

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okay so far CPU:LINPACK with AVX Capable Linpack box checked, max temp is 70

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:42 PM

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I only trust prime95 for stability

analog tartan May 11, 2021, 3:42 PM

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agreed

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:43 PM

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should I switch to that?

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:43 PM

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when I was testing my laptop

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:43 PM

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short blade I only trust prime95 for stability

For mem I prefer extreme anta

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:43 PM

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I tried occt 1 hour

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it passed the whole hour with no errors

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then didn't boot anymore

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lol

#

clearly not stable if it can't boot and requires a hard reset

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but it passed 1 hour occt large dataset

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:43 PM

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so wait, how are people getting 5.3gHz & I'm approaching critical mass at Chernobyl?

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:43 PM

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OCCT (generally) good enough for gaming

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:43 PM

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5.3ghz all core 10900K?

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probably direct-die cooling with a custom loop

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:44 PM

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claims I've seen...

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:44 PM

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modern walrus so wait, how are people getting 5.3gHz & I'm approaching critical mass at Cherno...

Because they know what they doing and also better bin maybe

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:44 PM

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or not truly stable

analog tartan May 11, 2021, 3:44 PM

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modern walrus should I switch to that?

i have seen prime95 damage cpus, intel doesn't reccomend it for stress tests apparently

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:44 PM

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MSI has this little video where they tell you to set it at 51 Mode 2

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:44 PM

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a lot of idiots online that think their cpu is stable when they stability tested it with maplestory

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then wonder why they get a bsod once a week

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:45 PM

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what s BSOD?

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:45 PM

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blue screen of death

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:45 PM

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again noob. sorry everyone

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Like my 3600x is 100% stable at 4.4ghz all core at 1.27V

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:45 PM

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oh right

#

my blue screen is actually green. how nice

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:45 PM

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if prime95 damaged your cpu that's your fault

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:45 PM

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lavish tundra Like my 3600x is 100% stable at 4.4ghz all core at 1.27V

on a 510r because my case proportions are dumb

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:45 PM

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sooo... I shouldn't go for 5.1?

sterile flame May 11, 2021, 3:45 PM

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you have to try really hard to damage a cpu

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:45 PM

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don't run prime95 at 1.5v

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:45 PM

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& 5.2 is a heck no

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:46 PM

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modern walrus sooo... I shouldn't go for 5.1?

you can try going further if 5ghz is stable

#

but you need to start from a lower baseline

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:46 PM

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short blade don't run prime95 at 1.5v

dont run anything at 1.5V

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:46 PM

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you don't approach overclocking by throwing on 5.3 and hoping it works

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:46 PM

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well in my defense, I've been trying to do this for about 20 hours or so now

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:46 PM

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if 5 is stable and your cooling can handle it by all means try higher

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:46 PM

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but ya

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I know nothing

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:46 PM

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20 hours is not that long for oc tuning

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:47 PM

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well heck

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:47 PM

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ram overclock takes me 3 days of tuning and that's while knowing what i'm doing

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cpu overclock is easier though

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:47 PM

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alright well I'm just gonna take RAM off the table for now... xmp it is lol

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:47 PM

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yeah very few people actually do ram overclocking

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there are a lot more variables

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cpu overclocking has core frequency, ring frequency, vcore, llc, and that's about it

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:48 PM

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My GPU overclock was successful before I tried this CPU thing

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:48 PM

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ram overclocking has all of the timings in that picture, dram voltage, vccsa, vccio

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:48 PM

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short blade May 11, 2021, 3:48 PM

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and yeah you need to stress test after each and every change

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the ram is capable of 3800c14 but my garbage 5600x isn't

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:49 PM

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short blade the ram is capable of 3800c14 but my garbage 5600x isn't

Early samples generally bad

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:50 PM

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a lot of your timings look like they could be a lot tighter

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like tRC

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:50 PM

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gonna wait till next year to buy stuff

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:50 PM

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tRC 85 tWR 26

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those are super loose

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:50 PM

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short blade a lot of your timings look like they could be a lot tighter

Havent bothered doing tertiaries at all yet

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:50 PM

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okay my max temp is 73. Is that good?

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:50 PM

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except procodt everything do be auto

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:50 PM

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73C in prime95 small ffts avx?

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:51 PM

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oh crap I'm still doing OCCT

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:51 PM

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short blade tRC 85 tWR 26

what would you say I should slap it down to?

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:51 PM

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will switch to prime now sorry

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:51 PM

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my 10700K @ 1.35V instantly slammed into the 100C barrier in prime95 small ffts avx lol

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:51 PM

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lavish tundra what would you say I should slap it down to?

can't comment without knowing what ICs

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:51 PM

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okay small or smallest?

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:51 PM

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short blade my 10700K @ 1.35V instantly slammed into the 100C barrier in prime95 small ffts ...

Ive hit 105 degrees

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:52 PM

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lavish tundra Ive hit 105 degrees

yanked the power cord instantly

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:52 PM

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tRC generally can try tRP + tRAS + 2 iirc

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:52 PM

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short blade can't comment without knowing what ICs

samsung c die

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:52 PM

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ah

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my laptop has terrible samsung a-die

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has negative scaling above 1.25v

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:52 PM

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B>C>A right

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:52 PM

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it won't even boot at jedec with 1.4v

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:52 PM

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well so much for that not being terrible

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hit 100 on 3 cores instantly

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:53 PM

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yeah i'm not surprised

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:53 PM

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throttled 2

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:53 PM

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is the clock speed lowering?

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:53 PM

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I stopped the test

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should I not?

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looked kinda scary there

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:53 PM

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short blade it won't even boot at jedec with 1.4v

You are the one with the crappy bios voltage thing right

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Like it doesnt have the 1.25 option

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:53 PM

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some people don't believe in prime95 for stability testing on intel

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i still do

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:54 PM

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short blade _some_ people don't believe in prime95 for stability testing on intel

dumb

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:54 PM

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okay well what should I use as an alternative?

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or should I just kick the crap out of my CPU here lol

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:54 PM

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modern walrus okay well what should I use as an alternative?

nothing

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:54 PM

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i cannot comment on the efficacy of tests that i don't use

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:54 PM

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prime95 best cpu stability test

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:54 PM

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most of my overclocking is done for customers so i must ensure the highest standard of stability

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:54 PM

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sooo do it & disregard the throttling?

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:55 PM

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otherwise i am going to have to drive over to their home to fix my own mistakes if it's not stable

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i have heard people using realbench avx.. you can try it

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i personally trust prime95 the most

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:55 PM

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like the massive temps don't matter as long as it doesn't bsod?

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:55 PM

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see if it's dropping below 5ghz too

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cpus will not be damaged by heat

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built in protection against that

modern walrus May 11, 2021, 3:56 PM

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okay the butt kicking will commence shortly

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:56 PM

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my laptop cooling could handle prime95

lavish tundra May 11, 2021, 3:56 PM

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modern walrus sooo do it & disregard the throttling?

TBH prime95 puts wayy more stress on the cpu than any real use case. Just because prime 95 is going to 100 doesnt mean it will while you do everyday tasks

short blade May 11, 2021, 3:56 PM

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02lul

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yeah

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the point of prime95 is to beat up your cpu harder than any real workload