overclocking

[ancient bridge]

Just don't mess with your daily lol

[finite frigate]

no

dont listen to danny

[wheat lintel]

The card is under microcenter warranty

[ancient bridge]

Cause I know ur gonna come running here with issues like I do

😭

[wheat lintel]

Danny, I’ve been messing with this system way too much already

[ancient bridge]

💀

[short blade]

imagine not dailying your card at 1kw for more frames in fortnite

🥱

[finite frigate]

literally true

[short blade]

it's like you don't even care about winning

[wheat lintel]

I need more CAD frames

[short blade]

this is why you don't have 497 fortnite girlfriends

[ancient bridge]

True

[finite frigate]

this is why you dont have any girlfriends

[wheat lintel]

All I need is one polish girl where the status is complicated rn

[short blade]

the girls love it when you got an ln2 pot sticking out of your daily

[finite frigate]

heatkiller+1080 rad for daily so i can put my cpu at 5.3

tec cooling for daily

i want to buy the tec cooler unironically

[short blade]

just remember

[sudden torrent]

You need a dedicated 1kW PSU for your TEC

[short blade]

cool your TEC with another TEC

[ancient bridge]

It makes me schizo

[finite frigate]

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterLiquid-SUB-ZERO-technology/dp/B08NCSF11M ok

guys

hear me out

360 sub zero for 90$

[wheat lintel]

Perfect, I just bought a 2nd one

[ancient bridge]

YES

[short blade]

this is worth at least 3 valorant girlfriends

[finite frigate]

...

i want to buy this

im going to buy this

[ancient bridge]

Fire

Why aren't they in my bed

Where are they

[short blade]

it'd be more if you were dailying tRRD 3/tFAW 12

[ancient bridge]

I could prob drop tfaw

[short blade]

do it

floppa didn't you run 0/0/0 lol

[finite frigate]

yeah

💀

[wheat lintel]

Because you don’t got a 6.0 GHz CPU

[ancient bridge]

True

[finite frigate]

i hate that its in the uk

[ancient bridge]

I can only do 5.2

[finite frigate]

why do i have to import it

[ancient bridge]

I'm lame

[finite frigate]

😭

[short blade]

sorry you don't get the valorant girlfriends irl

[ancient bridge]

That's unfortunate

[wheat lintel]

Do I?

[ancient bridge]

No

[short blade]

only over discord (they are 50 year old men using the anime girl voice changer)

[ancient bridge]

REAL

THATS ME THO

[wheat lintel]

Nah, that’s me

[ancient bridge]

Spent like an hour setting it up with voice meeter last night

LMAO

It doesn't work great with my voice since well I speak English and have a naturally deepish voice

[short blade]

they say they got a 4090 to play val with you better but it's actually for the cuda to run the voice changer more smoothly

[ancient bridge]

Trueee

I have to add a like 2 sec delay on my 2070s💀

[short blade]

just run 4 4090s so you can filter it 4 times

[ancient bridge]

Love that

[short blade]

because you might be the only human on the planet that actually wants to buy one at this point

[finite frigate]

for 90$ i will run my cpu at 5.5 all core daily happily

[short blade]

look at the shipping cost LOL

[finite frigate]

i did 😭 still cheaper than buying from the us

(by 10$)

[ancient bridge]

Bro is NOT going to cool 400watts sub ambient 💀

[finite frigate]

it wont be sub ambient

itll be exactly ambient

[ancient bridge]

Yes

[finite frigate]

if i run unregulated itll probably do sub ambient

[ancient bridge]

Let's take a moment to appreciate the 300watts it did in siege

Again

[finite frigate]

💀

[short blade]

me when my 13700k hit 360w in genshin

[finite frigate]

i want the ml360 evo sub zero

cause its compatible with more than just lga 1200

but im not paying 400$ for that

[wheat lintel]

If it’s anything like the EK TECs, it ain’t meant for sustained boost

[finite frigate]

gaming loads

it’s the same tec

as EKs

[ancient bridge]

L

[finite frigate]

better than my 280 lol

[short blade]

lmao this is the closest this board gets to manual cpu voltage control

cursed

[finite frigate]

what is that voltage scael

is that microvotls

or whtever

💀

[short blade]

yes

it uses the same offset system as SOC OVERCLOCK VID as well

[finite frigate]

my ass the board can regulate down to microvolts

that hoe cant regulate down to real volts

[signal belfry]

I remember that aio was going for sale for about 200 I think

I’ve heard it’s really loud tho

[finite frigate]

90$

[eternal relic]

dunk ml360 rad in ice water and it should be pretty decent

tec's are hot and 360mm alone isnt really great for it

can get idles to like -10c range with aio not dunked, cant imagine it'd be any good for multicore benchies tho

[ancient bridge]

He wants to daily it

[eternal relic]

i mean it seems like a good aio for gaming i suppose

high freq single core

probably very loud if u care

[wheat lintel]

For my 7900xtx, should I use KPX or PTM7950? I don’t think LM is the best idea for it

I’m leaning towards PTM7950 but I’m not sure what’s best

[ancient bridge]

I like how my l3 cache has faster reads than the l2

Anyway

Not bad for daily

I think I'm done

[potent fiber]

3900c14, woo

[ancient bridge]

Yep

Bdie

[short blade]

rate my overclock

[zenith palm]

Mid

Not even 800k rpm

Rookie

[short blade]

[zenith palm]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-gonna-cry-are-you-gif-19622693

[finite frigate]

GEAR 2

AT ONLY 3900

LLLLLL

[ancient bridge]

Gear 1

Nerd

[finite frigate]

39:2

oh nvm im insane

but also

why

daily 9 million ghz g2

[ancient bridge]

How many times do I have to say that my bdie only does 4266💀

[wheat lintel]

gear 2 only does 4266??? 💀

[ancient bridge]

My bdie isn't good for frequency

Gear2 isn't magic lol

[wheat lintel]

Rip

[finite frigate]

i think this is simply a suck moment

[ancient bridge]

Shut up you goober

[finite frigate]

lolololololololololol

[ancient bridge]

I don't think ur ready for how garbage this next builds gonna be

[finite frigate]

what one

[ancient bridge]

The funny 12100

[finite frigate]

oh

awful

[ancient bridge]

I only have one working stick of ddr4

Cause one died

[finite frigate]

danny

[ancient bridge]

And the other kit I gave you

[finite frigate]

20$ for an 8gb dimm

[ancient bridge]

No

[finite frigate]

30$ for a kit of 16

[ancient bridge]

You kidding me that's thr price of 16 now lmao

BUT

No

[finite frigate]

ballistix

[ancient bridge]

Cause I need to buy a psu

[finite frigate]

90$ 1300w

[ancient bridge]

Oh its also gonna be on the stock cooler

Which is (fine)

[ancient bridge]

No

I don't have that much to spend fr

[wheat lintel]

💀

Is that stick what I think it is?

[ancient bridge]

Yes

Yes it is

[finite frigate]

stick this

:3

[ancient bridge]

😁

[wheat lintel]

Does it overclock somewhat well?

[ancient bridge]

I haven't tried

I don't know what voltage is good for this mystery togo die

[wheat lintel]

It’s some rebranded Hynix

3200c22 JEDEC so I’d guess maybe CJR?

[ancient bridge]

I hate this

@finite frigate

look at this garbage

[wheat lintel]

…wtf

The kit is JEDEC 3200c22, why you at 3000

[ancient bridge]

Idk playing it safe

I just wanted to see if it would post properly

[wheat lintel]

Bruh set it to like 1.35v and go from there

[finite frigate]

LOL C21 21 21 21 21 121 1212312312330591283912345

[wheat lintel]

Pretty much every Hynix die should be able to handle that safely I’m pretty sure

[ancient bridge]

Single channel goes hard

[finite frigate]

1.45 is the jedec spec for ddr4 peak voltages so

if it cant "handle" that it doesnt meet jedec

[ancient bridge]

C die LOL

[finite frigate]

cdie can handle 1.45 for like years it just doesnt like it

[wheat lintel]

Thaiphoon says that?

[ancient bridge]

F off

[wheat lintel]

That’s the default thaiphoon guess for generic bins I’m pretty sure

[finite frigate]

dont use thaiphoon

[ancient bridge]

what the hell

[finite frigate]

is it the tigo die

[wheat lintel]

Yep it is

[finite frigate]

lmfao

[ancient bridge]

YIPEEEE

[finite frigate]

comp doesnt have a rebranded die

its some chinese company

its straight up china die

[ancient bridge]

Made in usa cpu with china die ram

[wheat lintel]

Yooo

[finite frigate]

ChangXin die is what comp has

[wheat lintel]

Danny send that back

[ancient bridge]

What why

[wheat lintel]

Just messing with you

[ancient bridge]

Yes but why

would u want it

[wheat lintel]

That China die boutta go hard

[ancient bridge]

fr

[wheat lintel]

Now I’m curious, what CAN it do?

[finite frigate]

nothing

@alpine mantle what tune is your changxin die on

[wheat lintel]

Danny set it to 1.35V and slap it to 3600, I’m curious

[ancient bridge]

ok

Love these dimms lol

[finite frigate]

crazy that theyre as high as 2 dimms

[ancient bridge]

fr

my camera sucks oml

lmao

[wheat lintel]

Any luck with 3600?

[ancient bridge]

Something came up doing it rn

[alpine mantle]

CL16

[ancient bridge]

No

[wheat lintel]

💀

[ancient bridge]

💀

22

At cl22

So sad

Do the funny

[wheat lintel]

Looked more into it, CXMT M-die (what you have) is garbage

[ancient bridge]

💀💀💀

No really

[wheat lintel]

CXMT A-die, ain’t terrible

[ancient bridge]

Never would have guessed it's garbage

😭😭😭

[wheat lintel]

Any luck with 3400?

[alpine mantle]

wait

you also have silicon power ram?

or just the same CXMT die

😂

[wheat lintel]

These came from a Lenovo legion prebuilt

[ancient bridge]

Nah just some oem jedec garbage

[alpine mantle]

rip bro

[wheat lintel]

Try loostening tRRDs

Keep it at 3600 but loosten tRRDs/l

Actually nah, you’d probably get better performance out of it with lower frequency

Then again, pushing frequency for the meme>>

[ancient bridge]

It's being goofy

[wheat lintel]

At least it posts

[ancient bridge]

Sorta

[wheat lintel]

1.4V maybe?

[ancient bridge]

I'm good

I kinda need this dimm

Even tho it's prob fine

[wheat lintel]

Why do you need the dimm?

[finite frigate]

server

[wheat lintel]

Ahh

[ancient bridge]

For 12100 server until I buy a new kit

I gave my last kit to floppa woppa

[wheat lintel]

Once you get the new kit, want to send that stick over? I wanna torture it

[ancient bridge]

ok lol

[wheat lintel]

By then I should have a B550 UX to have fun with

[wheat lintel]

@short blade do you have a screenshot of your rev E sodimm overclock?

Mine are actually pretty damn good

3933Mhz 26-26-26 @ 1.4V

[wheat lintel]

I just ran PyPrime 32B through benchmate and it’s saying the result is local only, what does that mean?

[finite frigate]

floppa heatkiller loop when?

[mental turret]

bro keep that info in a spreadsheet

[ancient bridge]

SHHHH

[wheat lintel]

How’s the tigo die coming along?

[ancient bridge]

I stopped lmao

[eternal relic]

bro is hand writing his oc data

[mental turret]

literally the worst

label-maker gang.

[ancient bridge]

pfffff

Who needs that

[ancient bridge]

LEAVE ME ALONE

[potent fiber]

Triggered, lol:

[mental turret]

lmao

[finite frigate]

you guys write down oc data?

[eternal relic]

no i just sub it to hwbot and my oc data is saved there lol

[finite frigate]

i screenshot and put it here

meta

[eternal relic]

me paying the mods $5 to delete all ur images in this channel

[finite frigate]

💀 my ram oc is gone oh no

[finite frigate]

does anyone have dirt cheap garbage d4 they wanna get rid of

[short blade]

$6 and you have a deal

[eternal relic]

[ruby summit]

@proven canopy literally a furniture dolly and I'm joining the wegg oc team for eternity

[proven canopy]

You can burn through that in a day

[ruby summit]

Intel users be like:

[steady lance]

Are there any DDR5 kits that are guaranteed Hynix M or A die?

[finite frigate]

yes, tons

[steady lance]

Could you tell me some of them?

[faint tangle]

Any 5600mhz+ and cl32 or below kit

Though there's also a cheap 5600c46 kit that's gauranteed hynix

[steady lance]

Thanks.

Is A or M die better?

[faint tangle]

Intel, A

Amd, m

[steady lance]

Intriguing. Might I inquire why A for Intel and M for AMD?

[faint tangle]

A can do higher speeds, while M can do lower timings

[steady lance]

Gotcha.

Which is better? 6400c32 or 6000c30?

Both are 10ns latency.

[faint tangle]

I cant say for sure but intel, 6400c32, amd, 6000c30

Are you tuning though?

[steady lance]

I plan to tune.

[faint tangle]

Or just running xmp

Ah alright

[steady lance]

Trying to get an idea for how much and which kit I wanna get for 8000 series.

[faint tangle]

Then afaik buying a high xmp hynix kit isn't any better than buying a cheap one

8000 series might be different

[steady lance]

Fair. Found this just now btw.

https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-Trident-7200MHz-1-40V-Channel/dp/B0BNGK6TLB/ref=sr_1_10?crid=2FIIU4C5AEAS6&keywords=2x16GB+6400mhz+c30&qid=1693711649&sprefix=2x16gb+6400mhz+c30%2Caps%2C114&sr=8-10&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0

Think this is Hynix?

[faint tangle]

I think it has to be

[finite frigate]

jesus christ dont pay 150$ for that

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qk9wrH/teamgroup-t-create-classic-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl46-memory-ctccd532g5600hc46dc01 iirc, this is A die, buildzoid recos it

https://www.patreon.com/posts/84547490 @steady lance

[steady lance]

Do you think it is likely to oc past 6400?

[finite frigate]

lmao, easy

[steady lance]

Oh really?

Will definitely get that instead then.

[steady lance]

Thanks for the link!

[scenic vine]

Even mdie goes to ~7600 on a good setup

[zenith palm]

Usually it's the board and or imc that's the limiting factor tho

[scenic vine]

Hence the 'good setup'

[ancient bridge]

Lmfao

[alpine mantle]

hmmm, 3600mhz CL Gear 1 vs 4133mhz CL18 (probably) Gear 2

[faint tangle]

cpu?

[alpine mantle]

i5 13600k

[faint tangle]

hm

prob gear 1 but I'm not sure

[alpine mantle]

i may do some testing later but it was surely on the back of my mind lol

[zenith palm]

Obvs depends on the tasks and timings but 3600 g1 sounds like it should be better

[alpine mantle]

3600mhz CL16 tuned

I booted it off of 4133 CL18 gear 1 before

Cuz I didn't know any better

[sudden torrent]

If you can get 4000 g1 stable that would be better (30x133 mode would be easiest)

I doubt it's very stable at 4133 g1 but if it is that's obviously better too

(31x133)

[restive sequoia]

Anyone tried the new cinebench

[smoky inlet]

Is that the best that i can do to Clock the Intel Core i7 2700K at 5.1GHz?

[sudden torrent]

The 2700k usually tops out around there with ambient cooling (air or aio)

[smoky inlet]

Okay, i'm just overclocking it that it has Any chance of Competing with new PC's

The act of "Overclocking" is Running something faster than it is usually Running. Some additional voltage may be needed.

Like i know, that is a Fractional improvement, but with that chip i would Love to have every bit that is Available...

[sudden torrent]

A 2700K? That's over 12 years old. It doesn't stand a ghost of a chance against even a modern $35 pentium, even if you overclocked it to 10GHz.

[smoky inlet]

I mean At some Normal Games, Like PUBG or Mineraft.

oh wait, i mean Minecraft

But there is no Minecraft installed because i don't put any more money in that PC unless i upgrade my Main rig.

[sudden torrent]

That changes nothing, the Pentium Gold G6600 beats the 2700K badly in all kinds of gaming.

[smoky inlet]

Okay, fair. But like that is just a PC that Occasionally Needs to do some "Medium" Gaming. So nothing really Heavy.

But i mean like if somehow Something heavier Gets on there.

somehow without my Knowledge.

[smoky inlet]

I tried to tell it in simplified terms

[mental turret]

[smoky inlet]

anyway, is 5.1GHz reasonable on that CPU?

but i mean like "okay"

What Temp?

5.38GHz? Damn

btw, What Benchmark Settings in 7zip?

[steady lance]

Is this on P-Core only and also is it single or all core load? Either way it's quite impressive.

Just shy of a 400mhz boost.

[smoky inlet]

That Frequency:

Well, that is what i got on the Vanilla 7zip application:

[steady lance]

I wanna buy some pc parts for the sole purpose of overclocking so badly....

I had so much fun when I was doing it before.

Gotcha.

[smoky inlet]

That one? 🤔

[steady lance]

Man that's impressive.

[smoky inlet]

that is actually what i'm about to do:

[steady lance]

I am running a 5700G clocked to 4.8ghz single core (though I've seen it boost to 5.1Ghz) and it does 4.5-4.6ghz all cor.e

[smoky inlet]

Still really impressive, My cooler of my i9 Can't keep up with the CPU

Can i use that for Normal usage too?

Oh

Because i have a PC that has a Pentium CPU

[steady lance]

Oh neat we have the same cooler.

I have it set to push/pull with P12s.

[smoky inlet]

well, i'm turningthe PC to a NAS anyways for Backups.

ok, i have a Noctua nh-u12a (Intel Core i9 10900K)

[steady lance]

By the way, I hate cable manaing push/pull....

[smoky inlet]

Well, i'm just about comfortable with ubuntu to test my Project.

[steady lance]

Looks cool but the f-ing cables man is rediiculous.

Especially since they aren't long enough they have to dangle in a ugly way.

I gotta look into some cable extensions.

[smoky inlet]

Lucky, You have AC

So you could make it really Cold and have a Advantage on cooling.

Well, i could Drag out my PC then (My Main PC) to compete on that.

[steady lance]

I have mine set to ramp from 70-100%.

[smoky inlet]

Yes, my CPU Is very much Spicy

[steady lance]

My gpu thankfully can be cooled by the bottom fans.

It's a EVGA XC3 Ultra so it sounds like a damn jet engine if it ramps up.

[smoky inlet]

That is what i got:

is.. that good or bad? 😅

That is Currently the PC that has the i7 2700K

yup

[steady lance]

I wish I had a AC that can lower my room temp to 2c so I can go really good benches.

[smoky inlet]

Solution on my end: doing that in the Winter outside with Enough Jackets on to make someone Jealous.

when the flip did i run that Benchmark?

[smoky inlet]

the upper one just appeared out of thin air so far i'm aware of, But that is my score on Cinebench R23:

Now trying MultiCore

[smoky inlet]

Result: DNF

Single Core worked out.

[smoky inlet]

i tried Higher voltage (caps at 1.5V)

score or clocks?

Rn i am at 5GHz

btw, i used Cinebench R23

i once got to the score that comes with the Cinebench install

or somehow it showed a score when i first opened Cinebench R23 and didn't do a run
edit: the darker one

if i wanted to i could just turn on my Main rig 🤔

but then i risk the PSU maybe taking down my Power and so also the Mesh Device.

Yes, it some times did that.

950 points now on Single

now attempting Multi

If i go offline for a Brief moment, i crashed

[smoky inlet]

well, on CB R15 i got on Single Core 162cb and on Multicore i got 748cb (it says 4,62x mp ratio)

well, that is nice:

How do i make that my CPU can go even higher than 5.1GHZ and still land at Windows?

[steady lance]

Ln2 is a option 🙂

[smoky inlet]

I'd say on my end no...

it isn't one of my Options...

all i have is a Air Cooler

[steady lance]

Honestly your best bet is gonna be a beefier cooler otherwise I am not sure what else you could do.

Maybe chill the room?

[smoky inlet]

How should i achieve that?

well, it is a Noctua Cooler...

Who said they have Magic?

[steady lance]

Air Conditioning, you could also go the classic power fan route and have a giant external fan feed air into your PC.

[smoky inlet]

1. Not even an option for me
2. I have no fan in my Room (except the PC Fans.)

[steady lance]

Well you're all out of luck then my friend.

[smoky inlet]

Well, i can then give them a PC that has a Weaker CPU when it nonstop crashes 😈

[steady lance]

?

[smoky inlet]

well, i can just change it then for something else that i got for free and then use that PC as a NAS.

Wait... What is preventing me from just giving the other one?

exactly, Nothing

[steady lance]

Yeah.

[smoky inlet]

so i don't need to decide if i need to take a Molex to Sata adapter.

i'm gonna go to #general-chat because of something.

well, i'm gonna give the other one back 😈

[humble jay]

100% of the time wdym

ln2 is very cold

[smoky inlet]

as cold as my Past.

[mental turret]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1092599811401863299/1116912975417188393/togif.gif

[smoky inlet]

What? Just telling the truth 😂

[smoky inlet]

Let's keep it to topic, How about 5.1GHz on the Intel Core i9 10900K?

5GHz already sounds reasonable.

[sudden torrent]

5GHz on that is doable but hard to cool, you need a pretty decent water cooler usually

[smoky inlet]

huh, i have a Noctua NH-U12A

[sudden torrent]

And I don't think that can effectively cool the 250-300W it will be pulling to get to 5GHz all core

[smoky inlet]

well, about 200W is still just about Manageable, i really need to think what i wish for next...

[dull ginkgo]

You can try it and see how it goes

[smoky inlet]

Actually, i did in the past and that is why i told that 200W is Still kinda Manageable for that Cooler.

[dull ginkgo]

If it works, it works, u12a is still quite capable.

[smoky inlet]

Well, if i want more performance, ai can't really go up.

[humble jay]

Several, but just saying you can always make it not work using ln2

You still run it warm with ln2

[steady lance]

I think I just figured out why my pc's been crashing on occasion.
My ram voltage got reset to the wrong number.
It's supposed to be 1.49-1.5v but it was at 1.55v.

[alpine mantle]

You gonna daily 1.5v?

[sudden torrent]

I do, nothing wrong with it if it stays cool enough

[faint tangle]

Yeah 1.5v is fine on ram, just not cpu

[kind walrus]

Depends on the die

[steady lance]

Yeah.

I have D die forgot which it was from though.

And very funky D die at that. It doesn't hit it's rated speeds at the voltage it's supposed to need for said speeds.

[alpine mantle]

Goofy wam

[steady lance]

I lowered the voltage and I gotta tune some settings in later. Getting occasional crashes again.

Is DDR5 ram harder to oc then ddr4?

[sudden torrent]

Yes because there's more voltages to worry about

It's still new so some of those voltages do nothing and some will be the difference between blue screen and stable with just 25mW higher or lower.

[steady lance]

I see.

Sounds fun.

[alpine mantle]

Wow... That looks crisp

[sudden torrent]

Not with that discord compression it doesn't

[alpine mantle]

💀

[steady lance]

Running the 2nd TM5 bench but so far it seems that it's my primary timings that degrades due to extended exposure at 1.55v (was at 1.55v for I think about a week or two?)

Not sure why my bios even reverted back to that old setting but at least I fixed the voltage to what it should be before it went on for much longer.

Nevermind seems it may not be the primary timings.

Man this is pain. I gotta go through each and every timing till I figure out which ones are messed up.

[steady lance]

Finally got a baseline for what's stable brought everything down.

Gonna try to see if my primaries are good then I will do the secondaries and tertiaries over the weekend.

[steady lance]

Okay it seems my primaries are fine.

It's either my secondaries or tertiaries that have degraded.

[kind walrus]

I'm not stupid right, 12th gen on b660 can do more than jedec for frequency no?

5600, 6000+, right?

[scenic vine]

Yes

[kind walrus]

cheers

[sudden torrent]

Jedec has specs planned for up to 8400 so that's not the limiting factor here

[kind walrus]

Jedec for 12th is 4800 tho

Anyway semantics

Lol

[sudden torrent]

For the processor specifications

But yeah

[zenith palm]

Jedec for 12th is also 3200 tho lol

[kind walrus]

Ddr5 3200

[sudden torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/actually-nerd-fat-bastard-gif-12320222

[zenith palm]

And 11th

[kind walrus]

[zenith palm]

D4 bonk

And we all know 11th can easily get over 4000mhz d4

[runic bobcat]

If im running from 160-170 fps would overclocking get me near 190-200

I'm new to it all so i have no idea what the difference would be

[wind prairie]

Probably not

Maybe if this was 2018

[manic seal]

that would be around an 18% increase, so it's somewhat unlikely
you're more likely to be going from 160-170 to 170-180 or something like that idk

[manic seal]

Which is more like 6-9% improvement

[steady lance]

Depends on how lucky you are.

It all depends on the famous Silicon Lottery.

[runic bobcat]

No yk what you're definitely right

[steady lance]

I got around a 23% uplift in performance in some games.

On average around 15%

Though I got extremely lucky with my CPU sample.

Pretty good ram as well. My GPU oc is meh though.

[steady lance]

On average you can probably squeeze out +8-10% perf if you oc CPU, Ram, and GPU even on okayish silicon.

So it never hurts to try plus it's fun.

[smoky inlet]

Is a Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 TI supposed to be able to do +300MHz on the core?

[faint tangle]

it's not abnormal

gpus now normally do lower core offsets since they're more optimized, 10 series/16 series and earlier often can do very high core offsets compared to newer gens

(someone please correct me if I'm wrong on any of that, but that's how it was explained to me)

[kind walrus]

varies greatly on silicon binning

and factory boost tables, vbios etc

like for example laptops can generally do high offsets

[faint tangle]

yeah sips 3070 laptop could do what, +1800 on vram?

1700?

for mining anyways

[smoky inlet]

Well, i can do +1000MHz on VRAM with virtually no issues, but i can't go any higher than +290MHz on the core, it WILL get unstable fast.

[faint tangle]

that sounds fairly normal

[smoky inlet]

Well, can i add more power somehow?

[smoky inlet]

Wait, could i change the V-Bios for a Tad bit more voltage and speed?

like i think 1.15V should be enough

[faint tangle]

not really, if it's pcie powered only

if it has a 6 or 8 pin, possibly

[smoky inlet]

well, i don't have a GPU Power cable plugged in to it...

[faint tangle]

then pretty much no, it's locked at 75w as that's what the pcie slot will deliver

[smoky inlet]

and on Supwerposition i got that at max:

[smoky inlet]

i mean can't i just add the cable to the GPU?

[smoky inlet]

that is the Highest GPU speed that i can do on that with the core at +290MHz and +1000MHz on the VRAM

without a crash

[proven canopy]

https://benchmate.org/ new benchmate

[steady lance]

Welp it seems my ram is permanently unstable. Nothing I do is fixing how it's rebooting on occasion.

I wonder why my bios even reverted back to such a old profile.

[normal stratus]

before/after removing power limits

[faint tangle]

That is impressive

[normal stratus]

65w-130w

I'd expect there is at least some difference

[steady lance]

20% increase neat.

We won't talk about how it required you to double your power consumption though. xD

[normal stratus]

I'm completely fine with the power draw lol, just wanted more performance

[steady lance]

Yeah same here.

Was mostly joking.

[normal stratus]

I wasn't noticing much of a difference from the 12400, so I researched it and this setting popped up.

[steady lance]

Yeah power limits sometimes works really well.

I got around 5% uplift from doing it on my 5700g.

though it won't draw much more power.

[normal stratus]

the 13500 can pull up to 150w iirc, which isn't bad

[steady lance]

My power draw is around 90w tops.

Even though I allowed the cpu to draw over 130

[normal stratus]

Nice

[steady lance]

Around 50-60w during gaming?

[normal stratus]

that's about right for me

I wasn't monitoring it though

[steady lance]

I am a check it.

running hwinfo.

[normal stratus]

ignore the high temperatures and wattage, that was when I was running cinebench

[steady lance]

neat

Will send mine after some MW2.

[normal stratus]

sounds good

[steady lance]

@normal stratus

[normal stratus]

niiiiice

[kind walrus]

[faint tangle]

seems pretty normal, maybe a lil bit toasty but nothing to worry about

[alpine mantle]

😂

[sudden torrent]

Just casually 3 times hotter than the core of our sun

[kind walrus]

They said it was a heatwave in Australia but I didn't expect this

[faint tangle]

Alienware pre builts

[rose bison]

what is this DCST LUT?

[sudden torrent]

You asked this before.

The recommendation was to just leave it at 0 unless you need a crazy accurate color setting for your display to work

[rose bison]

the setting is in the cpu section of the bios

right above avx offsets

i still havnt figured it out

might as well try some test

let u kno if interested

[kind walrus]

@tranquil tinsel I need to know who taught you man

lol

I'm here if you want some crash courses

[digital dirge]

It's a trap

[tranquil tinsel]

😭 basically frame chasers and small time youtubers 💀

[kind walrus]

Yeah he's a big taboo in the oc community 💀

Take most if not all he's said and chuck it out

[barren ridge]

imagine charging ungodly amounts for unstable as heck oc

[kind walrus]

You're inviting trouble from randoms if you mention that guy lol

And it's not unwarranted trouble either, he's earned the bad rep he gets

So yeah, try not to bring that guy up anymore, especially if you want to learn in those other discords

I'm saying this so you avoid the backfire next time

[tranquil tinsel]

Yea i saw on Reddit most oc servers warn you if you mention him

[steady lance]

Who are we talking about?

[tranquil tinsel]

Me mentioning framechasers as an example in an overclocking discord

[steady lance]

Can't say I know who that is.

[sudden torrent]

Consider yourself lucky then

[mental turret]

Uh oh

Unlearn everything you've heard from him

[tranquil tinsel]

Oh nah it’s cool dw , I started off with this guy

https://youtu.be/VDiSu0H5dYs?si=nrZZgZkXlybzklyg

[steady lance]

Does B-Die come in 32GB sticks?

[tranquil tinsel]

Uh I think so, you should be able to tell from the timings tho

It might be expensive

[steady lance]

I can't seem to find any with flat timings.

Looking for new ram because After Effects and Premier are sucking up over 20 gigs.

[signal belfry]

i think they do but they dont oc as awell

[sudden torrent]

They do but they only work on certain motherboards because they're tall sticks, like high capacity server ram. They're also super rare, this is the only one I found. https://www.ebay.com/itm/266312567248

[steady lance]

What do you mean by tall sticks? You mean they'd interfere with air coolers?

[sudden torrent]

I mean they're not standard sized PCBs

They're extra tall because they have more PCB

[kind walrus]

they're double thick

and only work with z390 afaik

[steady lance]

Twice as thick?

[kind walrus]

mhm

twice as tall

cos samsung doesn't make dense enough ic's for b die

[steady lance]

I see.

[sudden torrent]

It's like having two sticks of DDR4 stacked on top of each other

[kind walrus]

getting them is also a bit of fallacy anyway

[steady lance]

It's scary how much ram Adobe AE can use.

[kind walrus]

cos 64gb b die is difficult to get reasonable results with already

[sudden torrent]

Not to mention only certain motherboards can use them

[kind walrus]

you're better off with crucial at that capacity

or hynix

[steady lance]

It was using 26+ gigs for me and I was only using like 5 effects.

[kind walrus]

I mean you can still do 4x16

4x16 isn't easy at all

4000 for a daily is an achievement lmao

[sudden torrent]

You'd be lucky to do 3600 with that layout

[kind walrus]

yeah 3600/3733 should be the upper limits of normal methods

with reasonable subs

[sudden torrent]

Maybe an 11th gen cpu could do higher, with all the tricks it has

[kind walrus]

that said, it might be slightly better cos less ranks

[kind walrus]

if it can even run them, I honestly don't know

[steady lance]

Wrong channel to ask but do you guys know if AE would benefit more from gpu or cpu upgrade?

[kind walrus]

afaik they're only qvl'd for a z390 strix. QVL is a meme but, when only one board likes them...who knows

[sudden torrent]

11th gen DDR4 IMC >>> 13th gen > 12th gen

[kind walrus]

ram

[steady lance]

Ram is a definite I've noticed..

[kind walrus]

adobe likes ram

[steady lance]

I have 32 gigs and it sucked my system dry.

[kind walrus]

then it likes good encode

and then cpu

[sudden torrent]

Unless it's DR 8Gb B die to make those 16GB sticks, then you got 8 ranks.
16Gb B die would be ok though.

[kind walrus]

yeah b die is good for lower capacities

per stick**

if you want to do 32gb sticks or capacities 64gb upwards, you should look elsewhere

[steady lance]

I see.

[kind walrus]

the time has passed for b die anyway, you shouldn't look at any kit unless it's something like 40$ used

[steady lance]

out of curiosity, do you guys know if T-Create makes those sticks with Hynix ICs with 32gb/dim capacities?

[kind walrus]

they supply a lot of 32gb hynix sticks

you just need to find the right ic

[steady lance]

A and M die right?

[kind walrus]

mhm

[steady lance]

Any manufacturers make guarenteed A or M die by chance?

[kind walrus]

I've parroted the instructions a lot of times here

5600+, CL32 or lower

guaranteed hynix

6600+, guaranteed A

[steady lance]

I remember the Hynix guarentee.

[kind walrus]

that's all I need to remember to always get hynix

[steady lance]

Just didn't remember the A or M die part.

DDR5 2x32GB 1.4v 6400 cl32 you think it's likely A die?

[kind walrus]

guaranteed

[steady lance]

Only thing is that it's a Z5 heatspreader.

Look for another kit?

[kind walrus]

look for ripjaws if they have it yes

they reserve Z5 for the higher kits tho often

Z5 is kinda fine on A die

just mid

A die doesn't get dumb hot

[steady lance]

Does A die scale with voltage like B-die?

[kind walrus]

uh

a little bit yeah

I can't say totally as it's not as straightforward tuning ddr5

there are sweet spots, not a straight scalar improvement

[steady lance]

I see.

I found 6400 cl34 1.4v from T-Create.

Still A die you think?

Or is the timing becoming a bit high.

[kind walrus]

that's possible it's hynix

what are the rest of the timings

I'm mostly confident *it's hynix but skewed timings is what it needs

[steady lance]

Doesn't say and I misread the voltage.

It's 1.1v

[kind walrus]

it should say

reee

teamgroup lists xmp's

send weblink

[steady lance]

What do you mean by "skewed"?

[kind walrus]

flat

[steady lance]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BPHSVVS5/ref=twister_B0BRCJBKKW?th=1

[kind walrus]

skewed

[steady lance]

Oh okay.

🤦‍♂️

I looked at the wrong area

timings are

[kind walrus]

yes it's hynix

and it's 1.35

likely A

very likely

t creates are also dope for overclocking

[steady lance]

Good heatspreader?

[kind walrus]

ask @modern walrus

[steady lance]

Where did you find the voltage?

[kind walrus]

the official release documentation

[steady lance]

I updated the link incase you were on the old one.

Oh okay.

[kind walrus]

see this?

it's the product sku from the brand

[steady lance]

High XMP with low voltage good or High xmp high voltage?

[kind walrus]

copy paste it into google and you can trace back more info

[steady lance]

Oh thanks, did not know that.

[kind walrus]

no correlation

[modern walrus]

what are you looking for? my bad just went crazy on an essay exam real quick

[steady lance]

Finding a 64GB DDR5 kit with Hynix A-die.

[modern walrus]

ohhh 64gb

[kind walrus]

how good are your t create heatspreaders gary

[modern walrus]

you sure you need 64gb? cuz 2x24gb clock way higher

[steady lance]

yeah.

Adobe.

Blender, and other things.

Mostly adobe being the culprit.

[modern walrus]

they're not really particularly special or anything but they're not bad

I'd say they're about par lol

[kind walrus]

I figure as much

[modern walrus]

I assume there are 64gb adie kits but I'm not really sure tbh.

[kind walrus]

there are

I have a kit

[modern walrus]

I mean if you want something for gaming this is about as cheap as you can get some adie but it's only half of what you need lol https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BPHRVYX9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

[kind walrus]

6400 is usually sure fire A for 64gb

[modern walrus]

holy heck

they make 2x48gb kits??

[kind walrus]

yes

[modern walrus]

96gb ftw

[steady lance]

I wish I could use 32GB. It's barely cutting it for me now though.

[modern walrus]

only $370 lol

[kind walrus]

h24m 2x48

gary how do I know this and you don't

haha

[steady lance]

24gb and 48gb dimms don't work well on AMD right?

[modern walrus]

lol cuz I never need that much memory

[kind walrus]

work better on both

[modern walrus]

even locking pages in memory on daily

[kind walrus]

mr essay man

kekw

[steady lance]

48gb dimms work better then 32gb?

[kind walrus]

uh

no

[modern walrus]

I've never used Adobe, blender, or anything like that

[kind walrus]

24 does

48gbit is a toss up

192GB is death

[steady lance]

Gotcha.

[modern walrus]

I had 64gb of ddr4 before but it was trash MJR

[steady lance]

With adobe the more ram I have the better as it gives me more creative freedom and let's me queue my renders in ram for fast load times.

[modern walrus]

I think you can get 8000+ on 2x24gb but I haven't heard of anything hitting speeds like that on more than that

[kind walrus]

yeah

I mean he's looking at AMD so

[modern walrus]

I can say you definitely should not do 4 DIMMs

[kind walrus]

it doesn't really matter

indeed

4 dimm never

[steady lance]

Maybe with DDR6 xD.

[kind walrus]

you can do 4x16 on amd kinda

or 4x16 on z790 classified

but definitely no higher

[modern walrus]

the only way I'd do 4 DIMMs is if you actually wanna do the mission of removing two everytime you're not doing something that requires 64gb

[steady lance]

At 5600mhz right?

[kind walrus]

on any other z790 it's guaranteed death

[sudden torrent]

Wait for the platforms to mature a bit before doing 4 sticks

[kind walrus]

or lga 1700

[kind walrus]

it would do 6000

it would be dependent on the cpu's capacity

[steady lance]

I definitely need to switch my ram out or change platforms soon. My current ram is unstable due to my stupid bios reverting to a benching profile that'd been deleted.

[kind walrus]

2x32 is just way easier to do

[steady lance]

Crashes every like 3-5hrs.

[modern walrus]

on AMD I think you can do 8k now but rumor has it the performance doesn't match the frequency afik.

[kind walrus]

you can

via full desync

but yeah the gains are marginal at best

[sudden torrent]

8k is relatively easy, and a lot more stable than intel

[modern walrus]

if BIOS are latest, you could try to add a little extra voltage here & there

[kind walrus]

yeah cos they decoupled all the internal clocks lmao

fabric, mclk and uclk all individual brr

[modern walrus]

I've never OCed 9th gen but if it's like 10th, you might be able to add a little System Agent &/or IO voltage to get more stable

[steady lance]

Thank you Felix for your help and teachings today.

[sudden torrent]

mclk and uclk are still bonded but you can do mclk/2=uclk now

[kind walrus]

np

[kind walrus]

yeah so like, gear 4

[sudden torrent]

Basically

[modern walrus]

gear 4 is worthless on Intel it seems

memory valid but that's it lol

I tried getting it to POST at like 8400 G4 just to see if it would

it didn't

it doesn't seem like two DIMMs will POST on G4

[sudden torrent]

BZ goes over the score scaling, it's pretty useless on AMD too https://youtu.be/mEnOu57x3wE?si=3jmAZCpKip_PH3At

[modern walrus]

but I also made very little effort tbh

I got >10,000mhz to run on G4 but with one DIMM lol

[sterile flame]

Is it possible to even achieve >10000MHz memory clock with i9-13900KS

[kind walrus]

lol

Do you mean 10000

Or 100000

[sterile flame]

10000 of course

[kind walrus]

Yes it is possible

Is it usable? no

[sterile flame]

But......

Not my computer

[kind walrus]

that's your gpu bruv

[dull ginkgo]

I mean seby got 11,253mt/s on 13900k
https://hwbot.org/submission/5290428_seby9123_memory_frequency_ddr5_sdram_5626.6_mhz

[kind walrus]

That's freq valid though

Not usable lol

[sudden torrent]

Intel loses stability around 7000-7400

And there's no way to fix it

You can try benching above that and if it crashes, try again and it might work

[kind walrus]

You can daily 8000+ on the right motherboard

[sudden torrent]

Yeah... an AMD board

[kind walrus]

Nah nah, Apex I know a couple people who do it

It's just not easily done like AMD

[sudden torrent]

Running it daily is one thing but is it actually stable? Or do they just put up with the occasional blue screen?

[kind walrus]

Yes, afaik stable

Ask Fitz he's one

[sterile flame]

I meant memory frequency

[kind walrus]

We're talking about memory frequency

[sudden torrent]

Yeah and in your screenshot that was your GPU memory

[sterile flame]

Oh I see

[kind walrus]

This is your GPU memory my guy

[sterile flame]

That was someone else's image actually

[kind walrus]

Not your RAM

[sterile flame]

I don't even have a desktop computer yet so I can only find a random one on the internet

[kind walrus]

Fair enough

[sudden torrent]

If you want life to be easy get a 6400 kit

But if you like spending more than $800 on the motherboard alone, go ahead and get 7400+

[sterile flame]

I see this on Reddit

[kind walrus]

He got archived

I don't think that stuff ever even hit the market

the platforms aren't fast enough to handle it

[sudden torrent]

Those are future planned products yeah

Modern DDR5 might be trash compared to 8 years from now DDR5, but it's good for what exists now just like DDR4 2666 was fine for Intel 7000

[kind walrus]

If you buy Hynix tho you get the performance possibility later

Micron A and Samsung B are rubbish

[barren ridge]

bro thinks no one should buy ddr5 cuz "muh prime spec ain't out yet"

[dull ginkgo]

No one should buy Intel 7nm chips because their 20a chips aren't out yet smh

[sudden torrent]

Nah wait for those quantum CPUs

[steady lance]

This is so dumb......

[frigid locust]

Guy's like a decade ahead of all of us

[tranquil tinsel]

I mean people still bought 3800 or 4000mhz ram for 7th gen

It was just expensive asf 💀

[proven canopy]

Check through madness's vods, he's very good with ddr5 in general https://www.twitch.tv/madness777/videos

[dull ginkgo]

Lol

[short blade]

this is also 1 year ago

you can get good kits of ddr5 for pretty cheap now

[sterile ridge]

Having to redo my PBO/RAM with a 7800X3D instead of a 7700X. I noticed in Ryzen Master there's no "start optimizing" button for CO-is that locked on X3D chips? It wasn't perfect but on my old CPU it would kinda do it for you with a little tweaking needed to be done. I've also tried to go to my old ram timings, and even buildzoids easy timings don't work. Should I just keep going down until it does work? Or is it like a known thing that RAM does worse on X3D.
Mostly just can't find much content on how to OC RAM/CPU on X3D :)

And could I possibly push my GPU to be more stable at previously unstable OCs? Not really sure how 3D cache actually effects that

[sudden torrent]

You can't really overclock X3D chips, some features are locked or won't apply.
You'll have to redo your memory overclocking from scratch whenever you change CPUs. Memory barely affects X3D so don't spend too much time on it.
The GPU stability is completely independent of the rest of the system.

[zenith palm]

And ofc make sure your voltages are around the same too, might have been reset or need tweaking on x3d (can't remember if they locked things like vsoc)

[sudden torrent]

They did lock many voltages because the cache is very voltage sensitive

[short blade]

ram is lottery, my 7800x3d did 6400 with pretty tight timings, they're not artificially limited in any way

as for cpu, honestly just try lowering all core by -5 each step and testing it

I'd start at -15 to save time

mine did -30

it's not like regular chips where it's super important to tune each core to its individual limit since they're all going to the same (relatively low) clock speed

not worth the time to get a full per-core proper tune

especially when the cpu consumes like 80 watts anyways

[sterile flame]

I found a Z87 for $40

However there is a slight issue

The pin in the socket was for some memory stuff and the board can't run dual channel

[mental turret]

which z87 board

[sterile flame]

Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H

[mental turret]

that boards okay but dont bother if dual channel wont work

[sterile flame]

I'm just looking for something for 4790K

[wheat lintel]

You trynna overclock?

If not I can get you a Z97 Gaming 5 for dirt cheap

[sterile flame]

Yeah, nothing crazy

I’ve come to the realization I can’t do a HTPC with this

[undone flame]

Anyone used F5-7200J3646F24GX2-TZ5RK?

[kind walrus]

yes

[short blade]

z87 board that can't run dual channel? that's not even worth cost of shipping

I realize I am very late to this conversation lol

[kind walrus]

Guys is this high or normal for KS

My KF is virtually the same bar e cores slightly slower at 4.6

128 good?

[humble jay]

Golden AF

send to me

[kind walrus]

?

My 13900KF behaves mostly the same too but haven't checked on this board

Both had near equal "cpu force" scores (151, 152 iirc)

[kind walrus]

Made sure it wasn't a bios glitch, updoot to 1402 from 0502, still the same

Now to make windows babies

[sudden torrent]

116 SP, quite decent indeed

[mental turret]

my 1680v2 faster

[steady lance]

what's sp?

[short blade]

new bios for z690 pro-a d4 has done some interesting things to cpu vcore

the bios I was on previously also got pulled which is

working all day so gonna see if I can get 4133 stable on this bios

probably not but doesn’t really hurt to try

the old safe 3600 profile is stable on this bios too so I got a fallback

[faint tangle]

Can you lmk if it's better for tuning?

I've got the same mobo and while I still haven't tuned my ram I know I will eventually

[short blade]

so with my undervolt I had to change lite load from 3 to 5 to get it stable at stock speed, but it's also running much lower cpu voltage by default

my low load voltages went from 1.38 to 1.32

and my high load voltages went from 1.28 to 1.25 while still being stable somehow

so I'd update based on the benefits to cpu vcore alone

I don't know if it's better for ram yet, but I can at least tell you that it's not worse

[faint tangle]

Cool thank you, sounds like it's time for me to update

I haven't since I flashed the bios for my cpu to be supported in January

[short blade]

have been quite busy recently so haven't done much besides toss on my old daily profile and do a stability test on that

this is compared to the july bios that is now pulled

but the july bios already had some minor benefits compared to older ones

I don’t think ram oc has really gotten better from any bios updates, but seems they’ve been tweaking cpu vcore in almost every bios update

[short blade]

@faint tangle preliminary results look promising, stress test has gotten to 1500% so far with 1.35v SA, before I was running 1.365

it’s gonna be a while before I have any conclusions though

need to stress test for longer and also use it for a while bc I’ve learned the hard way that stress tests are not enough on this platform lol

all I can say for now is that 1.35v SA wouldn’t have made it this far on the previous bios

[proven canopy]

Let's get the three-peat.

[rose bison]

Finally dialed in my per core OC on my x299!

This is next...

[short blade]

you can’t say this and then not show us the numbers 😔

[rose bison]

sure!

Just running r23

[short blade]

I like numbers

[rose bison]

it was good at 1.165v 4.6ghz

[short blade]

sounds like my laptop

[rose bison]

i tried per core voltages after that

[short blade]

running all core oc 4.6ghz at 1.15v on my laptop

probably pulls about 800 less watts though

[rose bison]

lol

my eps connector was warm

[short blade]

can’t push it past 135W bursts/120W sustained without thermal throttling

15 inch laptop trying its best lol

[rose bison]

u try lquid metal?

[short blade]

that’s with LM

it could barely handle the 45W TDP with factory paste

[rose bison]

i had to delid this 7820x

Not Bad!

14757

im getting about 12300

[short blade]

you running 2x8?

can’t quite tell in the pic

[rose bison]

4x8

@4000

stock 3600

[short blade]

I meant EPS connectors

[rose bison]

no lol

just 1

would like to get the thicker awg one

[short blade]

does the board not have support for more?

[rose bison]

nope

[short blade]

not sure about the 7820x but I know some of the higher end x299 chips blow way past the spec for 1 eps connector

sometimes even 2

[rose bison]

its the mobo

asrock taichi (1st version)

technically the one eps connector cant handle this cpu overclocked

i could get the corsair upgraded one

that can handle like 500W

just a matter of the board and power supply

[short blade]

I see

meanwhile I had 2x8 EPS going into an i3-12100 lol

my laptop does not have an EPS connector to get warm but

it does make some very interesting popping sounds whenever cpu load exceeds 90W

[rose bison]

that cant be good

[short blade]

it sounds pretty bad

but it’s been chugging along for more than a year

so it can’t be that bad I guess LOL

I feel like it’s coming from the k5 pro rather than anything electrical but it sure does sound like the vrms are exploding

[rose bison]

heres the numbers!

sounds like your psate might be moving?

paste*

i tried to apply all the per core OC'S together with individual v core

it did not like that

settled with 1.274