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short blade May 23, 2023, 8:42 AM

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"We were unable to go beyond DDR4-3500 even with 18-18-18 sub-timings"

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no

mental turret May 23, 2023, 8:42 AM

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damn

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lemme enlighten you

short blade May 23, 2023, 8:42 AM

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they are very very rare

mental turret May 23, 2023, 8:42 AM

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short blade no

steady lance May 23, 2023, 8:42 AM

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short blade they are very very rare

So it's not model specific?

mental turret May 23, 2023, 8:42 AM

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It's the Clevo P570WM

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has a 4820k and two GTX 780M's kekbomb

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It's just been chilling at my job in storage, untouched, for probably 3+ years

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desktop LGA2011 in a laptop, love it lol

short blade May 23, 2023, 8:43 AM

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steady lance So it's not model specific?

it is, just very few models

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x79 laptop

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finally, we've reached the pinnacle of humanity

mental turret May 23, 2023, 8:44 AM

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yea it has the full X79 chipset also LMAO

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if anyone, i deserve this laptop kekbomb

short blade May 23, 2023, 8:44 AM

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@steady lance https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1-cw7A2MDHPvA-oB3OKXivdUo9BbTcsss1Rzy3J4hRyA/htmlview#gid=2112472504

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have fun

steady lance May 23, 2023, 8:44 AM

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short blade it is, just very few models

do you happen to know which models?

short blade May 23, 2023, 8:44 AM

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you can use this to find t-top boards

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under the memory topology section

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you're better off just buying a 2x16 kit lol

mental turret May 23, 2023, 8:45 AM

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short blade you're better off just buying a 2x16 kit lol

kappa

short blade May 23, 2023, 8:46 AM

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not all t-top boards are expensive but

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it just makes more sense to buy a 2x16 kit than limit your board selection by that much

steady lance May 23, 2023, 8:47 AM

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It seems most of the T-Top boards are from Asrock

mental turret May 23, 2023, 8:47 AM

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Really? what about asus?

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or EVGA for that matter lol

short blade May 23, 2023, 8:47 AM

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if you really want to buy a board just for ram oc get a 1dpc board

mental turret May 23, 2023, 8:48 AM

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Z590 OC Formula + special sauce bios

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🤓

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(ik hes on amd)

short blade May 23, 2023, 8:48 AM

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not sure what's best for am4

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x570 dark?

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b550 unify-x?

mental turret May 23, 2023, 8:49 AM

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No idea honestly

short blade May 23, 2023, 8:49 AM

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x570 dark hero?

mental turret May 23, 2023, 8:49 AM

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lets look at some HWbot subs

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dark hero

short blade May 23, 2023, 8:49 AM

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oh dark hero isn't even 1dpc lol

mental turret May 23, 2023, 8:49 AM

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well its amd so lol

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FCLK restricting mem oc moment

short blade May 23, 2023, 8:50 AM

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lol the amazon reviews for x570 dark

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the top review knocked off a star because of the onboard audio

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that's even worse than I was expecting

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I was expecting people to complain about 2 ram slots

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but really? onboard audio???

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lmao

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second review complaining no header for case usb-c

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bro if you bought the x570 dark to put it in a case you are doing something wrong

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this board was not designed to go in a case ever

mental turret May 23, 2023, 8:52 AM

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I honestly really wanna try DDR3 OC on a X79 UD7 because of the 1DPC. not sure what the max vdimm is tho. havent been able to find info on that

short blade May 23, 2023, 8:52 AM

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epower it

mental turret May 23, 2023, 8:53 AM

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that would be unecessary 💀

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just a feedback mod

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prob

short blade May 23, 2023, 8:53 AM

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reading these reviews from casual users not understanding what an OC board is

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hilarious

mental turret May 23, 2023, 8:54 AM

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what do the reviews say besides the audio crap?

short blade May 23, 2023, 8:55 AM

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multiple complaints about no case usb-c, lack of i/o, and the right angled power connectors making it difficult to work in the case

steady lance May 23, 2023, 8:55 AM

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These are the boards with T-topology without going into 3000 series boards

Asrock:

X570 Extreme4
X570 Extreme4 Wifi
X570 Phantom Gaming4
X570 Phantom Gaming4 Wifi
X570 Pro4
X570M Pro4
X470M Taichi Ultimate
Asus:
X470 Strix F-Gaming
X470 Plus Gaming
Gigabyte:
X470 Aorus Gaming 5 Wifi
X470 Aorus Gaming 7 Wifi (rev1.0)
X470 Aorus Gaming 7 Wifi (rev1.1)
X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming

short blade May 23, 2023, 8:56 AM

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the complaint about the onboard audio is the worst though

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especially since it's the top review

sudden torrent May 23, 2023, 8:57 AM

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Sad the list doesn't have more info on B550 boards, those often have better VRMs than X570

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(plus no chipset fan)

short blade May 23, 2023, 8:58 AM

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top review for z690 unify-x gave it 3 stars for not having display output

mental turret May 23, 2023, 8:58 AM

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ah makes sense. best mem OC board for AM4 is the strix b550i gaming.

short blade May 23, 2023, 8:58 AM

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"I was able to dial in the memory to 7400 @ 34-43-43-34 rock solid (TM5 and WMD passed).

Everything seemed to work well from stress testing the GPU to the memory and more. Gaming was fine too. The problem was once placed under a meaningful CPU load the system would randomly shut down. No warnings, nothing...just complete power off."

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ah yes

mental turret May 23, 2023, 8:58 AM

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but eh yea ryzen is just a limiting factor

sudden torrent May 23, 2023, 8:59 AM

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ITX is often really good for memory OC because 2 slots

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1dpc

mental turret May 23, 2023, 8:59 AM

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well yea

short blade May 23, 2023, 8:59 AM

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your random power offs have nothing to do with your totally stable oc

mental turret May 23, 2023, 8:59 AM

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I have a VI Impact 🤓

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kinda have a love hate relationship with it though

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:00 AM

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at least I don't see anyone complaining about 2 ram slots lol

sudden torrent May 23, 2023, 9:00 AM

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I almost want to get an ITX board when I end up replacing my AM4 just so I can have that contrast. Giant case, bigger cooler, tiiiiny board

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:00 AM

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T-Topology vs 2 dimm which is better out of curiosity?

sudden torrent May 23, 2023, 9:01 AM

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2 dimm

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:01 AM

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I am assuming 2 dimm

sudden torrent May 23, 2023, 9:01 AM

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Shorter traces and they're not terminating at multiple slots per channel

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:02 AM

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wow

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:03 AM

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are the x570 boards a lot better then x470?

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:03 AM

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this is on z690 dark

sudden torrent May 23, 2023, 9:03 AM

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steady lance are the x570 boards a lot better then x470?

They have PCIe 4.0 but that's about it tbh

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:04 AM

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x470 does not have 4.0?

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:04 AM

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lol wait there's a review from @celest notch on here

sudden torrent May 23, 2023, 9:04 AM

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short blade this is on z690 dark

"no options for power limiting your cpu"
bro doesn't know how to use the bios

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:04 AM

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I mean I wouldn't be surprised if the bios is actually missing power limiting

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but like

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why are you buying a z690 dark to daily with a power limit

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💀

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:05 AM

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agreed lmao.

sudden torrent May 23, 2023, 9:05 AM

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It has to have PL1/PL2 settings at least

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Use those

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:05 AM

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it probably does

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but I wouldn't be terribly shocked if it didn't

sudden torrent May 23, 2023, 9:06 AM

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lol he finishes the review saying people shouldn't overclock

mental turret May 23, 2023, 9:06 AM

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short blade lol wait there's a review from <@468237272257527829> on here

lol which board?

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:06 AM

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z690 dark

mental turret May 23, 2023, 9:06 AM

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oh yea lmao

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she needs to bench on that board more KPConfused

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:07 AM

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$196 for a X570 Taichi seem good?

mental turret May 23, 2023, 9:07 AM

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@steady lance why are you lookign for new boards? what's your current?

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:07 AM

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sudden torrent lol he finishes the review saying people shouldn't overclock

bro is walking into a mcdonalds to advocate for breatharianism

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(if y'all don't know what that is, it's the cult that believes they can survive without food or sometimes water)

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:09 AM

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mental turret <@217356391675985921> why are you lookign for new boards? what's your current?

B550M DS3H v1.4. Was wondering if a board upgrade would be better then a ram upgrade after I get a 5950x considering I have some decent S8D die ram.

mental turret May 23, 2023, 9:09 AM

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oh you have S8D? is it dual rank?

sudden torrent May 23, 2023, 9:09 AM

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Yeah I've seen those psychos. "I don't need food, I'll live off the sun and air! (but I still eat 1-2 meals a day because I get hungry)"

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:09 AM

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Dual rank.

mental turret May 23, 2023, 9:09 AM

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what bin?

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:09 AM

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3933cl16-21-21 something lemme double check.

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I already tuned it.

mental turret May 23, 2023, 9:09 AM

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i mean whats the xmp rating

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:10 AM

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4000cl18-22-22-42 at 1.4v (complete lie on the voltage btw unless it's my board)

mental turret May 23, 2023, 9:10 AM

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hm alright

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:11 AM

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?

mental turret May 23, 2023, 9:11 AM

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just thinking about it lol

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:11 AM

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my current tune.

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I could probably tune TRCD by 1 more but I was to lazy at the time.

mental turret May 23, 2023, 9:12 AM

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I honestly have been looking for dual-rank S8D to daily for a while because they could reasonably be had for so cheap. OEM stuff specifically. have yet to find any 2Rx8 udimms of the stuff though 🗿

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:12 AM

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mental turret I honestly have been looking for dual-rank S8D to daily for a while because they...

will trade you for b-die 😎

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:13 AM

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the b550m ds3h does have sufficient vrms to handle a 5950x btw

mental turret May 23, 2023, 9:13 AM

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This is what I bought for 38 USD that's in my daily now. since its jedec bin bdie it's not surprising that it's crap. S8D is more consitently decent. comparatively speaking anyway.

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:13 AM

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short blade the b550m ds3h does have sufficient vrms to handle a 5950x btw

really?

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:13 AM

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not super well, but it's not throttling

sudden torrent May 23, 2023, 9:13 AM

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You could take my 4 sticks and frankenstein them into 2 sticks

mental turret May 23, 2023, 9:13 AM

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mental turret This is what I bought for 38 USD that's in my daily now. since its jedec bin bdi...

I put ddr3 dominator GT heatsinks on them lol

sudden torrent May 23, 2023, 9:14 AM

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short blade not super well, but it's not throttling

Yeah that's what I said, but it'll get hot under full load because puny heatsink doesn't cover all the mosfets

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:14 AM

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if the vrms gets to hot the cpu will down clock correct?

sudden torrent May 23, 2023, 9:15 AM

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yes, that's a symptom of that

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:15 AM

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steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:15 AM

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yeah I will probably get a new board before new ram after I upgrade cpu.

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:15 AM

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handles 3950x without throttling

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:15 AM

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Btw does a 5950x bottleneck a 4090 a lot?

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:15 AM

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at 1440p? yes definitely

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at 4k? ehh might depend on the game

sudden torrent May 23, 2023, 9:16 AM

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Everything bottlenecks a 4090 at 1440p

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:16 AM

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short blade at 1440p? yes definitely

By how much relatively speaking compared to a 7950x.

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:16 AM

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dunno, you can probably find some reviews that show this

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:16 AM

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sudden torrent Everything bottlenecks a 4090 at 1440p

not true

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userbenchmark says gamers only need a 9600K

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smh my head

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:16 AM

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lmao.

sudden torrent May 23, 2023, 9:17 AM

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It does depend on the game tested blah blah

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:17 AM

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anyways time to sleep

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I would still recommend not bothering with board upgrade in the end

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just get 2x16 b-die and let your ram fan cool the vrms a bit

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since you're going with such an oversized 180mm

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honestly not sure how you fit that

sudden torrent May 23, 2023, 9:18 AM

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Yeah not much point. For what you spend on a mobo it's not worth being able to get slightly cheaper memory.

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:18 AM

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but if it fits it fits

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if you bother with a board upgrade it might as well be next gen

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alright gn

sudden torrent May 23, 2023, 9:19 AM

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I'm out too, g'night

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:21 AM

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how do I calculate the wattage for vrms I forgot?

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:23 AM

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short blade if you bother with a board upgrade it might as well be next gen

aight will probs do that next gen then. Save myself some money

short blade May 23, 2023, 3:25 PM

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steady lance how do I calculate the wattage for vrms I forgot?

don't bother, the number you get is really not that useful

short blade May 23, 2023, 4:09 PM

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raptor lake voltages are very fun

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notice how the exact same settings can error at 19699% or at 7%

sterile ridge May 23, 2023, 5:50 PM

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OS death 😭

short blade May 23, 2023, 5:51 PM

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yes

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boot straight into a windows 95 looking error message that says something about winlogon.exe being lost or damaged

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surprisingly, you can't log on without winlogon.exe

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who knew

sterile ridge May 23, 2023, 5:54 PM

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wow that must be fun to experience

short blade May 23, 2023, 5:56 PM

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nothing new

steady lance May 23, 2023, 6:34 PM

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@sudden torrent, @short blade, after many failed attempts I managed to do it and did it clean.

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Mohahahhaa

short blade May 23, 2023, 6:40 PM

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the cable management?

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or are you talking about the fan up top

steady lance May 23, 2023, 6:41 PM

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The fan. The cable managed isn't good ik. Cables are to short so I gotta look into extensions.

short blade May 23, 2023, 6:41 PM

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for ram airflow you want it to be blowing directly onto the modules

steady lance May 23, 2023, 6:41 PM

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It is though.

short blade May 23, 2023, 6:42 PM

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like you can see my ram fans are aimed directly down on the ram slots like this

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hard to describe with words

steady lance May 23, 2023, 6:42 PM

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short blade May 23, 2023, 6:43 PM

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yes

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I understand

steady lance May 23, 2023, 6:43 PM

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Oh, wouldn't both ways work though?

short blade May 23, 2023, 6:43 PM

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but it's not as effective as the orientation I showed you

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trust me, I'm speaking with the experience of everyone who has used a ram fan ever lol

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even with 2 tiny 60mm fans in that orientation it's a 10c drop under load

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direct down is better

steady lance May 23, 2023, 6:44 PM

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What if I just max out the rpm on the 180mm that should get similar results I presume?

short blade May 23, 2023, 6:44 PM

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meh

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probably not

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and it'll probably be louder

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just try putting a fan on top of your gpu aiming at it

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doesn't need to pretty

steady lance May 23, 2023, 6:46 PM

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Anyways I can check my ram and VRMs temps?

short blade May 23, 2023, 6:51 PM

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yeah

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I mean the way you have it is probably helping

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just not as effective as it could be

steady lance May 23, 2023, 6:52 PM

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What if I swapped out my exhaust for a 180mm on top of the GPU?

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Damn at max speed I am moving some serious air in here.

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What's a good temp for my VRMs to be at during load?

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Currently running r23.

steady lance May 23, 2023, 7:39 PM

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Just ran TM5 with the fans at full speed and the ram is quite chilly.

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:03 PM

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What kind of heatsinks would work on DDR4?

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:47 PM

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steady lance Just ran TM5 with the fans at full speed and the ram is quite chilly.

what temps?

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:47 PM

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steady lance What's a good temp for my VRMs to be at during load?

2 digits

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:48 PM

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steady lance What kind of heatsinks would work on DDR4?

ddr4 doesn't have any extra considerations for clearance like ddr5 pmic

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I just grabbed a ddr3 heatsink and it fit

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:49 PM

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short blade 2 digits

My vrms maxed out at 50c after a few rounds of r23.

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:49 PM

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nice

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:49 PM

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During normal loads it's around 25-30c.

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:49 PM

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how about the ram?

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b-die should be kept below 45c

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:50 PM

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I can only judge by touch. My ram was slightly warmer then room temp which is 20c.

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:50 PM

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could be a good thing could be a bad thing

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:50 PM

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that's after a couple rounds of TM5.

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:51 PM

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if the heat is stuck in the ICs then the heatspreaders won't be warm lol

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:51 PM

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prior to the fan upgrade my ram got much hotter.

short blade May 23, 2023, 9:51 PM

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well, guess you can find out when you buy b-die

steady lance May 23, 2023, 9:51 PM

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yep.

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I am probably gonna buy those G.SKill royal b-die.

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S8B 3600cl16-16-16-36

finite frigate May 23, 2023, 11:30 PM

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short blade ddr4 doesn't have any extra considerations for clearance like ddr5 pmic

have you tuned stuff like trefix9 on your stuff yet

short blade May 23, 2023, 11:35 PM

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finite frigate have you tuned stuff like trefix9 on your stuff yet

lol no

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:10 AM

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How many runs of ycruncher do you usually run when testing?

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So far I’ve been running it for 2 hours without any errors at 6800c36-40-40

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:12 AM

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That depends, how stable are you looking for it to be?

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:12 AM

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For daily

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:12 AM

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Daily stable a few hours is probably enough

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If you needed 100% rock stable you'd do 72 hours minimum

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:13 AM

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Also do you have a range of what I should set tWR to? No matter what I set it to I can’t get a post

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:13 AM

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Bench stable... if it passes a run it's good lol

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:13 AM

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Rn I have it set to auto

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:13 AM

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For what die again?

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:13 AM

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Hynix

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No idea if it’s A or M

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:13 AM

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Oh DDR5?

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:13 AM

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Yeah

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:14 AM

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Uh hang on

steady lance May 24, 2023, 1:15 AM

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Besides, Ram, CPU, GPU anything else I can tune to increase perf?

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:15 AM

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Technically you can tune everything but it really isn’t that worth it iirc

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:15 AM

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Overclock yourself

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Caffeine is fun

steady lance May 24, 2023, 1:15 AM

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sudden torrent Overclock yourself

I lift weights when I am in loading screens during games, watching tv, and eating.

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So already doing that.

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:16 AM

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Smart

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:16 AM

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I overclock myself by running 700V through me daily

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:17 AM

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Only 700V? I have to do a taser jolt to wake up in the morning and get the blood pumping. About 10kV

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:17 AM

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I ain’t joking about that, I forget to turn off my DC power supply and zap myself

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It’s only 0.5 mA at most so not the biggest deal

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:18 AM

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Yeah it's current that kills but ouch

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:18 AM

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Not as bad as the time I shocked myself with 650V @ 2A

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That was a hell of a day

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One hand rule saves lives

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:19 AM

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wheat lintel It’s only 0.5 mA at most so not the biggest deal

My guy that's 3.5x the daily output of a human

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Are you a masochist

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:19 AM

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kind walrus Are you a masochist

I’m just stupid kekAnimated

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:19 AM

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Welcome to wegg

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:19 AM

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wheat lintel Also do you have a range of what I should set tWR to? No matter what I set it to...

BZ does 48 tWR at 6000 in his "easy timings"

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:19 AM

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sudden torrent BZ does 48 tWR at 6000 in his "easy timings"

I can’t even post 66

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:20 AM

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Moar volts?

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:20 AM

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Fal

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He's running 48gb

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:20 AM

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64Gb

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:20 AM

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So H24M

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Oh

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:20 AM

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Oh well that would have been good to know

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:20 AM

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Oh nvm

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My memory bad

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:20 AM

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I always forget to mention that

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:20 AM

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Like his but ram

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💀

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:21 AM

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This is where im at rn

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:21 AM

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You're running 6800 64gb on a gigabyte?

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:22 AM

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Yep

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:22 AM

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That's already good

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Cos gigabyte is nasty for mem oc

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:22 AM

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Is it actually? I thought it was supposed to be pretty good

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:22 AM

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On other platforms yes

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:22 AM

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BZ left tWR on auto with 4x16gb lol

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:22 AM

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On lga1700 nope

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Even their special xoc board the z790 tachyon is full of cope

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:23 AM

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Ahh

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I mostly got this board because I liked the way it looked and all the IO on it

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:23 AM

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Looks are the easiest trap

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kekw

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:24 AM

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For reference

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:24 AM

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Can’t beat 5 M.2 slots

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:24 AM

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Sir in what world do you need 5 tho

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Ur a cad man

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Buy a hard drive 💀

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Anyway enough fun roasting

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:25 AM

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wheat lintel Can’t beat 5 M.2 slots

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wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:25 AM

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kind walrus Buy a hard drive 💀

I don’t feel like waiting an hour for all my MAPs to load kekAnimated

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:25 AM

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wheat lintel I don’t feel like waiting an hour for all my MAPs to load <a:kekAnimated:9407834...

We get paid either way why make life harder for urself

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:25 AM

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sudden torrent For reference

So basically don’t change anything I got? Those are the only timings I’ve touched so far

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:26 AM

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DogKek

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:26 AM

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kind walrus We get paid either way why make life harder for urself

Faster load = more commissions done dogKek

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:26 AM

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I'll commission u in a minute

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:26 AM

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Now overclocking SSDs???

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:26 AM

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wheat lintel So basically don’t change anything I got? Those are the only timings I’ve touche...

4 sticks is just a pain to run on LGA1700. Don't expect much.

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:26 AM

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wheat lintel Now overclocking SSDs???

bclk does that

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:26 AM

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I have 2x32Gb

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:26 AM

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Still

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:27 AM

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sudden torrent bclk does that

Not on z

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Z has separate clkgen no?

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:27 AM

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Not always

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:27 AM

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Hm

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:27 AM

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That's still an extra feature

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:27 AM

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I've been spoiled ig

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💀

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:27 AM

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For 64Gb I think my aida64 results are pretty good

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:28 AM

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I haven't looked too closely but 6800 on a gigabyte is not bad

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Tightening the subs should be somewhat easy after that

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The timings are the easier part on ddr5, it's the voltages that drive a man to madness

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:29 AM

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I’ll send a ss of Asrock timing configurator

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There are so many goddamn voltages to set it’s driving me crazy

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 1:29 AM

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Tag ggood about it when you do, it's been a hot minute cos I've been busy af

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He'll tell you if it's good

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~~Or if its ggood~~

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:31 AM

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…shut up

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kekAnimated

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 1:31 AM

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kind walrus The timings are the easier part on ddr5, it's the voltages that drive a man to m...

Just ask @short blade

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:31 AM

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I’m bout to get bullied by him LOL

short blade May 24, 2023, 1:33 AM

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I'm not even on ddr5 and the voltages are still stupid

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it's a raptor lake problem, not a ddr5 problem

short blade May 24, 2023, 1:33 AM

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wheat lintel I’m bout to get bullied by him LOL

why?

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:34 AM

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It’s a usual thing whenever I ask anything ram OC related kekAnimated

short blade May 24, 2023, 1:34 AM

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do I bully you?

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:34 AM

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Jokingly

short blade May 24, 2023, 1:34 AM

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I was under the impression that I've helped you every time you asked

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:34 AM

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Oh you did, I meant bullied in a joking sense

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You never actually did bully me

short blade May 24, 2023, 1:35 AM

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maybe I'll bully you if you buy a dell or something

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:35 AM

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I bought a Lenovo

short blade May 24, 2023, 1:35 AM

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at least lenovo prebuilts are actually good though except for the whole memory speeds thing

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:36 AM

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@ancient bridge has my old ram from it LOL

short blade May 24, 2023, 1:36 AM

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does it overclock at all in a different mobo?

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like can it at least do something like 3200 16-18-18 1.35v

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the baseline

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:37 AM

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No idea yet, I sent it to Danny because I didn’t have a platform to test it on

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My one good DDR4 platform is being used by my dad for work so I can’t mess around with ram OC

short blade May 24, 2023, 1:38 AM

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lol just corrupt all his work files

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 1:38 AM

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Ahh yes

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Only DDR4 I have left rn is a 64Gb 3200C16-20-20 kit

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And a 2x4Gb 3000c16-16-16

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That used to be a 4x4 kit sold 2 of the sticks

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Both kits are hynix die

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For mem ref clock, what should I have it set to? 100 or 133?

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@short blade

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Theres a good bit of auto timings but i think its decent so far

ancient bridge May 24, 2023, 2:10 AM

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short blade lol just corrupt all his work files

Hoping and praying

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 2:13 AM

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ancient bridge Hoping and praying

You try the ram out yet?

ancient bridge May 24, 2023, 2:13 AM

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No🗿

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Its late

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I passed out

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 2:14 AM

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SMH 🗿

short blade May 24, 2023, 2:41 AM

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wheat lintel <@122901618369757184>

i don't know intel ddr5 timings but nice

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 2:49 AM

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Damn I screwed up my tertiaries

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Not sure what I did but no more posting

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Yaaaay

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 2:50 AM

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short blade lol no

theoretically if your board autos >106 with 65535/4 trefi, theres no benefit from tuning it, but with your silly ass kit, maxing out to 127 might actually have some benefit

short blade May 24, 2023, 2:54 AM

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ok i'll let you know when i'm done with voltages in about 64 years

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 2:55 AM

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short blade ok i'll let you know when i'm done with voltages in about 64 years

sounds about right

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 2:56 AM

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I’ve read online that I should be use tWRPRE and tWRPDEN to set my tWR?

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Any truth to this?

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 2:57 AM

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On intel yes

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In fact that's the recommended method from what I've seen

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 2:57 AM

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How would I go about it?

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Can’t really find an explanation for it

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 2:58 AM

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keep twr on auto and lower the other two by two

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 2:59 AM

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What should I set them to initially?

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 2:59 AM

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i dunno d5 so just like

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uh

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try whatever they auto to initially and lower from there

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 3:00 AM

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Okay

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 3:01 AM

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tWR is one of those timings where it can be stable for a while and then error a few hours into testing

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 3:01 AM

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yeah good luck 💀

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 3:01 AM

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That's why it's generally recommended to be done last

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 3:01 AM

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i shotgun clocked my twr and called it

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sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 3:02 AM

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I just said "eh, 14 should work right?"

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 3:02 AM

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d5 is silly tho

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 3:02 AM

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Not like 12 is much better than 14 anyway

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I can do 10 when benching but it does get unstable

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 3:03 AM

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im not even done tuning yet but im really too lazy to continue

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this is really the end stage of "3 hours of tuning =1%"

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 3:03 AM

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I feel that

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It's that last few % that takes the most effort

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 3:03 AM

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yeah

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i feel like im more limited by being unable to drop trfc at all 💀

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i can prolly do 540 but

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the 3 years of testing isnt worth

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 3:04 AM

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I’ve got all this stable, not 100% on where to go from here

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 3:04 AM

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lol b-die ftw on that one
Slap 250 on it and call it good

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 3:04 AM

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basically yeah

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im not buying anything for this rig cpu or ram wise anymore

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no point to on z590

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i do want a 40 series card though but i want a card with red elements on it, not just lights

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 3:07 AM

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Which tertiaries should I start out with?

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Because I think I’ve done everything I could secondarycwise

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 3:08 AM

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on d4 i start by tuning wrrd_sg/dg's for tWTR tuning

wheat lintel May 24, 2023, 3:08 AM

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Ok

short blade May 24, 2023, 3:12 AM

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i need to upgrade my monitor

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my voltages spreadsheet is too wide for 2560px

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smh

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 3:14 AM

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short blade my voltages spreadsheet is too wide for 2560px

DSR
Make it 4k

short blade May 24, 2023, 3:14 AM

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just gonna abbreviate timing names

humble jay May 24, 2023, 3:18 AM

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short blade May 24, 2023, 3:42 AM

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this is fun, i'm having fun

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the most annoying part about this imc is that it behaves so inconsistently sometimes

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 3:44 AM

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It's consistently inconsistent

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 3:44 AM

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i fricking

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reset my cmos without saving my mem profile 😐

short blade May 24, 2023, 3:45 AM

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just spend so long on your tune that you have every bios setting memorized

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 3:45 AM

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oh this is pain

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 3:45 AM

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short blade just spend so long on your tune that you have every bios setting memorized

nah i know those

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just not my sa/io

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 3:46 AM

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I found out that my bios saves it's profiles outside the cmos so clearing doesn't erase my onboard saved profiles

short blade May 24, 2023, 3:46 AM

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isn't that normal

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 3:46 AM

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Not on my old board

short blade May 24, 2023, 3:46 AM

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wack

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i can also type out every bios setting for my laptop from memory

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because

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well

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it doesn't have profiles LOL

sudden torrent May 24, 2023, 3:46 AM

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I needed a USB on my X470 to save, onboard would get wiped

short blade May 24, 2023, 3:47 AM

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every time i cleared cmos i had to type everything back in

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i put all my settings in a discord channel at first

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but eventually just memorized it all

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 3:47 AM

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dear lord what was my sa and io2

short blade May 24, 2023, 3:47 AM

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timings, cpu voltage, cpu multiplier, cache voltage, SA voltage, power tweaks, etc

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 3:47 AM

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1.25 for them booted but it took 3 years to boot

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let’s find out if this errors instantly i guess

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â

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i know i had 1.55dram

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 4:42 AM

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@modern walrus how does one go about tuning RTT's

short blade May 24, 2023, 5:27 AM

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same as timings

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change number hope stable

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80/0/40 or 80/0/48 usually a good starting point for b-die

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seen 80/0/240 recommended for rev. e

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but I think you're limited to 160?

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so not sure how that'll work

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 5:36 AM

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short blade same as timings

does lower=gooder or is it a mix

short blade May 24, 2023, 5:36 AM

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no

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whatever works works

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 5:36 AM

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oh lol

short blade May 24, 2023, 5:37 AM

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set intentionally unstable voltage and see what impact different RTT settings have on error time

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look at my spreadsheet for an example

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 5:37 AM

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i feel like

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i should just not care

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about rtts

short blade May 24, 2023, 5:38 AM

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a lot of people never bother going into rtts

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 5:38 AM

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does 11th get RTL? cause i cant find any info on how to tune rtl on rkl

short blade May 24, 2023, 5:38 AM

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but they can sometimes be a huge help and really aren't that much effort

short blade May 24, 2023, 5:39 AM

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finite frigate does 11th get RTL? cause i cant find any info on how to tune rtl on rkl

try to drop 1 from auto

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 5:39 AM

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does not work

short blade May 24, 2023, 5:39 AM

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if it posts it's probably stable

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if it doesn't post then live with auto

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 5:39 AM

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sounds good 👏

short blade May 24, 2023, 5:39 AM

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boards tend to be pretty good at training RTLs nowadays

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very common that you can't even post 1 below auto

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 5:40 AM

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cool great

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i bought mem test pro

short blade May 24, 2023, 5:40 AM

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I'm really enjoying karhu cause of stop on error and beep on error lol

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I can run overnight without worrying

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 5:41 AM

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10 euro for karhu is steep for something im going to use 1 time

short blade May 24, 2023, 5:41 AM

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and make it beep through speaker

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someone just shared their license with me lol

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 5:41 AM

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o lol

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ooh

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i already have a buyer for my 7700k rig

short blade May 24, 2023, 5:41 AM

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how much

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and what specs

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 5:42 AM

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570, 7700k, 16gb c-die, probs a 500gb ssd, and a 1tb hdd

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 5:42 AM

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short blade how much

200 but theres more to this

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essentially, no matter what specs(obviously not like 3080s or whatever), i sell computers to my friends for 200$ but if they upgrade, they give me the old parts back

short blade May 24, 2023, 5:43 AM

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interesting

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 5:43 AM

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thats how im getting it back in the first place

short blade May 24, 2023, 5:43 AM

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nice of you though lol

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 5:43 AM

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i usually end up getting my moneys worth tbh

short blade May 24, 2023, 5:43 AM

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I go bed now gl with the rabbit hole

finite frigate May 24, 2023, 5:44 AM

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oh i just want to check if actually stable

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probs just do 3k% or something not ultra nerdy and call it a day cause i just go amimir and wake up to stable computer

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short blade May 24, 2023, 1:05 PM

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Klee_Derp

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i love raptor lake very consistent platform that makes a lot of sense

steady lance May 24, 2023, 5:41 PM

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I am considering giving another shot at Overclocking my GPU. Would do you guys think is the most effective method to do a stable OC on a 3070?

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 5:42 PM

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Undervolt

steady lance May 24, 2023, 5:43 PM

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Undervolt without oc?

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 5:44 PM

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With or without you'd see some gains in some way

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I mean with

steady lance May 24, 2023, 5:46 PM

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Do I overclock first to see what's the highest clocks I can get then Undervolt like you'd do with a CPU?

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 5:48 PM

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3070 you use the turing method

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https://youtu.be/zUkPAVcb9Xc

YouTube

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This gives you the basic foundation knowledge

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Then you fine tune to your specific gpu

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I would add a bit of redundancy in your overclock to allow for extra stability in case of a particularly bad game

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Some games can be so bad they basically like stock and that's it

steady lance May 24, 2023, 5:51 PM

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Alright will watch it later. Also I am kinda confused I thought undervolting is for power efficiency at the cost of perf?

steady lance May 24, 2023, 5:51 PM

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kind walrus Some games can be so bad they basically like stock and that's it

Ahh so like MW2?

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That game hates any GPU OC no matter how stable.

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 5:52 PM

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steady lance Alright will watch it later. Also I am kinda confused I thought undervolting is...

Yes cos you hit the power limit on ampere so easily so by undershooting the power it needs (for that clock) you can push it higher on the same power

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 5:52 PM

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steady lance Ahh so like MW2?

Sure, warzone is the same

steady lance May 24, 2023, 5:52 PM

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I meant warzone by MW2.

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 5:53 PM

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Oh, is that what they call it now?

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kekw

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I thought they were 2 different games

steady lance May 24, 2023, 5:53 PM

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Well if you wanna get technical the full name is

Modern Warfare II Warzone II

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 5:53 PM

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Shows how much I really have no interest in COD

steady lance May 24, 2023, 5:53 PM

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But nobody says that.

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 5:53 PM

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steady lance Well if you wanna get technical the full name is Modern Warfare II Warzone II

Lol

steady lance May 24, 2023, 5:55 PM

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kind walrus Yes cos you hit the power limit on ampere so easily so by undershooting the powe...

I think I understand. Basically ampere sucks up more power than it needs by default to attain a certain clock so we're reducing the amount of power it actually needs?

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 5:55 PM

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Mmm

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Yes and no

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It's using enough power, but there's always margin of stability, you close that margin down with OC, the same with undervolting

steady lance May 24, 2023, 5:57 PM

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Think I sorta follow.

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Also brb like 5m.

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 5:57 PM

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It's basically the same as offsetting on afterburner as a default but you do it by hand

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It's just a little bit better

steady lance May 24, 2023, 6:18 PM

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aight.

short blade May 24, 2023, 6:37 PM

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speaking from lots of experience, there are currently no synthetic tests that will actually ensure stability of your gpu oc/uv

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so you kinda just need to play games where it doesn't matter too much if you crash (and/or you can save progress often) and see how it goes

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 6:39 PM

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kind walrus I would add a bit of redundancy in your overclock to allow for extra stability i...

.

short blade May 24, 2023, 6:40 PM

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define a bit of redundancy

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my 1070 couldn't run +12 in any game despite being able to do anywhere between +120-210 in occt (various shader complexities and usage limits), all 3dmark tests, superposition 1080p med, superposition 1080p extreme, superposition 4k optimized, etc.

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testing in games is just better

steady lance May 24, 2023, 6:45 PM

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Anyone know why MW2 hates any kind of GPU oc?

short blade May 24, 2023, 6:46 PM

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personally i've found a combination of battlefield v campaign, genshin, and cyberpunk rt to be much more effective than any synthetic gpu test

for bfv and cyberpunk, just push settings as hard as possible, good for testing heavy raster and heavy RT loads

for genshin, tune settings until you're hitting about 80-90% of power limit (this stops being practical at like 4080/4090 level), good for testing the higher points of your v/f curve that you usually don't hit in heavier games. (this is much less useful when undervolting)

i've also found that genshin is also very effective for catching minor vram instability that you won't even catch looking for regression in 3dmark or in many other games, the falling particles in inazuma city are very sensitive and very prone to glitching out when your vram is just a tiny bit too high

short blade May 24, 2023, 6:47 PM

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steady lance Anyone know why MW2 hates any kind of GPU oc?

whatever gpu oc you tried is just unstable

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i've run gpu ocs through mw2 fine

steady lance May 24, 2023, 6:47 PM

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short blade whatever gpu oc you tried is just unstable

The OC I did works in CP77, Halo, Doom Eternal, etc.

short blade May 24, 2023, 6:47 PM

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okay and?

steady lance May 24, 2023, 6:47 PM

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But absolutely hates MW2.

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Well to be more specific I am talking about Warzone.

short blade May 24, 2023, 6:48 PM

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"the ram oc i did works in tm5 and y-cruncher but bsods in HCI, it's obviously stable, why does HCI hate ram oc?"

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your gpu oc being okay in other games doesn't mean it should be stable in mw2

steady lance May 24, 2023, 6:49 PM

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So I should use MW2 for my oc tests then?

short blade May 24, 2023, 6:49 PM

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it just means mw2 is pushing the stability harder than the other games you've tried

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i haven't personally tested mw2, but sure

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i only run the mw2 benchmark, i have no interest in playing the game

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if it's the game you see instability in then it's a good place to start

steady lance May 24, 2023, 6:49 PM

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Would the benchmark work as good or similar to the game?

short blade May 24, 2023, 6:50 PM

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no clue, like i said i have no interest in playing mw2

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that includes warzone

steady lance May 24, 2023, 6:50 PM

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aight.

short blade May 24, 2023, 6:50 PM

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test it yourself

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let me know though, i'm interested

steady lance May 24, 2023, 6:51 PM

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will do. Gonna do some tests later.

short blade May 24, 2023, 6:51 PM

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might as well get some use out of this game that was given to me

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came for free with my cpu

steady lance May 24, 2023, 6:51 PM

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oh neat.

short blade May 24, 2023, 6:51 PM

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i have 2 cod games and i didn't buy either of them lol

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my 3080 was bundled with cold war and my 13700K was bundled with mw2

steady lance May 24, 2023, 6:52 PM

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MW2 is pretty decent if you enjoy realistic shooters (real to a certain degree).

short blade May 24, 2023, 6:52 PM

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i am not good at shooters

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anyways

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just to demonstrate my point about games being better to test with

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when i was tuning my 3080, i was able to run +210 offset or an undervolt of 1965mhz @ 0.875V through time spy

then i played one mission of battlefield v and by the time i managed to make it through without crashing i was down to +90 offset or an undervolt of 1905mhz @ 0.900V

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this time spy result here is completely detached from the reality of what the card was able to accomplish

kind walrus May 24, 2023, 6:55 PM

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ugh I just dc anymore

short blade May 24, 2023, 7:00 PM

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my 3070 was able to run 2130 - 2200mhz in synthetics, but in actual gaming it was more like 2055 - 2070mhz to be stable

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at 1.081V (i flashed a 350w vbios to that 3070, so it was basically always voltage limited and not power limited)

steady lance May 24, 2023, 7:14 PM

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short blade my 3070 was able to run 2130 - 2200mhz in synthetics, but in actual gaming it wa...

what do you mean flashed?

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You installed a custom bios?

short blade May 24, 2023, 7:15 PM

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it was a 3070 TUF and i gave it the VBIOS of a 3070 STRIX

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VBIOS flashing isn't something i would recommend for daily usage

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i did it for benchmarks

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if it's something you are interested in, check the following considerations:

you have a working igpu (strongly recommended)
your card has a dual bios switch (strongly recommended)

OR

1 and 2) you have a ch341a programmer

your card has 2x8-pin power connectors (if not, you will get some odd and possibly not very useful results from the flash)
your card has enough cooling headroom that you think it can handle a higher power target (strongly recommended)
your card has decent vrms/vrm cooling (strongly recommended)
your card is an asus model (not sure honestly, the asus cards use 2x hdmi 3x displayport, possible some of your display outputs may act strangely if you flash 3070 strix vbios to a model that doesn't have the same layout)
your power supply has enough headroom to increase gpu power (required)

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vbios flash gone wrong can soft-brick your card, so it's important to have a recovery plan (1 and 2)

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i see you have an XC3 ultra, which doesn't have a dual bios switch
flashing to 3070 strix may have strange issues especially with different fan controller and all that
the most practical vbios flash option would be to FTW3 ultra, but you're only gaining 30 watts power limit from that flash
people have reported fan issues from flashing 3070 XC3 to 3070 FTW3 as well
i would just not do it if i were you

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high risk low reward

ancient bridge May 24, 2023, 7:36 PM

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+1 for radeon (other than 7000 series)

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Mpt for the win

short blade May 24, 2023, 7:38 PM

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ancient bridge Mpt for the win

really need to get my hands on an rdna2 gpu someday just for fun

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was really tempted by a 6950xt OCF for sub 500 recently

ancient bridge May 24, 2023, 7:39 PM

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short blade was really tempted by a 6950xt OCF for sub 500 recently

Where was this?

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Hwswap

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I'm looking for one haha

short blade May 24, 2023, 7:48 PM

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yeah

steady lance May 24, 2023, 7:53 PM

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short blade i see you have an XC3 ultra, which doesn't have a dual bios switch flashing to 3...

Yeah I don't think I'll do it then.

modern walrus May 24, 2023, 9:33 PM

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eh get something that barely POSTs or BSODs & play with them until it seems to work better. It's a total rabbit hole

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you know what's funny?

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4060ti sucks lol

short blade May 25, 2023, 1:28 AM

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progress

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:36 AM

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@finite frigate @wheat lintel so i might know why you two weren't able to apply 80/0/240 RTTs like i suggested

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and it may have to do with me being stupid

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apparently MSI lists the RTTs in a different order from other manufacturers

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maybe rttwr caps at 160 and rttpark caps at 240, i'm not sure

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anyways, it would be
RttNom 0
RttWr 80
RttPark 240

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:38 AM

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short blade progress

why are your wtrs so high

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:38 AM

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also, idr if you two have 4x8 or 2x16 kits

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rtts will be different on 4 dimms

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:38 AM

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4x8, he has ddr5 now 💀

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:38 AM

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finite frigate why are your wtrs so high

they are auto

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:38 AM

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oh ok

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i assume twr is too lol

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:38 AM

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my current theory is that i've been misattributing extremely intermittent errors from other sources to tWR

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so i wanted to try to eliminate intermittent errors by tuning every voltage that exists to the absolute perfect tick

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:39 AM

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💀

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:39 AM

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and now i am testing tWR again after all that

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if i still get intermittent errors, i can be pretty sure that it's actually the fault of tWR

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:40 AM

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i can probably go further than this, maybe even higher freq, but do i care?

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:40 AM

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my brain just doesn't want to accept that tWR actually needs to be at 11.6ns on a b-die kit

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i want to think it's just skill issue

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:40 AM

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cause it shouldnt

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lol

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i know your bdie kit is garbage but it really shouldnt be ultra high

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:40 AM

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possibly the only time in human history that someone has wanted to think that they have skill issue

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:40 AM

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that and trefi

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:41 AM

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i may have also misattributed tREFI

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:41 AM

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also your trefi issues were not cause of trefi but caused by the reefi

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:41 AM

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i am testing that now

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:41 AM

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yes

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:41 AM

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notice that i have it at 65535 currently

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i've found that it's just extremely easy to misattribute errors on this platform

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:41 AM

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trefi is referesh interval, longer it takes for it to refresh the cell, meaning errors have more time to show up per cell refresh

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so trefi causes the issue, but it is not the issue

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:42 AM

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anyways, here's how tWR is going so far

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:42 AM

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i assume tcke only goes as low as 2 on z690

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:43 AM

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yes

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:43 AM

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figured

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:43 AM

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it's also not actually a relevant timing

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:43 AM

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its 4 on z590

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:43 AM

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so setting it to the lowest and forgetting it is fine

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:43 AM

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yea

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:43 AM

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it's only used when power down mode is enabled

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doesn't matter if i set it to 2 or leave it at auto

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just set it cause low number = more dopamine

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:43 AM

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why i didnt change it lol

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no reason to

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:44 AM

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anyways, i'll be happy enough to get tWR of 18 or 20

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so hopefully it's possible

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tWR 18 at 4133 is 8.71 ns, that's fine

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:44 AM

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are your rdwr's also on auto

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:44 AM

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no

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:44 AM

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15 seems high

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:44 AM

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it's because i have tCWL at 12

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:45 AM

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oh you did the ol tradeoff

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high rdwr low cwl

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ok

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:45 AM

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i will try to run 10/15/15/15/15 and 10/16/16/16/16 again later

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i believe 10/16/16/16/16 is stable

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10/15/15/15/15 errored intermittently, but i don't know if that's because of tRDWR or something else

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for now i am just using safe 12/15/15/15/15

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:45 AM

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fair

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:45 AM

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15s were actually the auto values, but with tCWL at 18

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so dropping tCWL by 6-8 without needing to raise tRDWR is nice enough

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:46 AM

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running such a low freq makes my life easy even on crap rev.e

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does make me want to do 3866 or 3900

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i was able to drop trfc by a whole 30 from jedec

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i love rev.e 😐

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:47 AM

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that's abnormal

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:47 AM

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i cant post any lower than 530

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:47 AM

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short blade that's abnormal

normal at high freq's for the kit iirc

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:48 AM

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i dailied tRFC at 115 below jedec, but was able to go further down stable at lower temperatures

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 4:48 AM

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maybe im just unlucky

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i have ram fan and everything

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:(

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trfc is something i would actually benefit from too

short blade May 25, 2023, 4:53 PM

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i love tWR

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@finite frigate

finite frigate May 25, 2023, 6:00 PM

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short blade i love tWR

LMAO

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lower refresh interval

wheat lintel May 25, 2023, 11:32 PM

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Round 2 of shotgunning DDR5 timings

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Getting kinda decent at this

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Round 1 only one of my timings was unstable

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@short blade I hate my IMC, my OC that passed through a 24hr run of ycruncher is no longer stable

short blade May 25, 2023, 11:53 PM

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welcome to raptor lake

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 12:01 AM

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Nvm my mobo was being dumb, it was trying to load one of my tertiaries as 0 instead of Auto

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 12:23 AM

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You got any advice for setting tertiaries?

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Either my ram can barely handle tighter tertiaries or I’m doing something wrong

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@modern walrus you got any ideas?

short blade May 26, 2023, 12:43 AM

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tertiaries aren’t guaranteed to tighten down a lot

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I mean

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nothing is guaranteed to tighten down a lot

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as you can see from my tWR that can’t even move from auto

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advice for tertiaries is the same as everything else

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drop number hope stable

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usually there’s no reason to run any non-flat tRDWR values

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 12:45 AM

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Wdym non-flat?

short blade May 26, 2023, 12:45 AM

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like you have 20/20/22/22

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not 20/20/20/20

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same with tRDRD and tWRWR

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usually no point to run not x/8/x/x

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 12:45 AM

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I’ll give that a try, maybe that’ll get rid of the errors

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Rn I’m getting only 1 error after 20 minutes of ycruncher

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So basically flat 16 for RDRD and WRWR

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And flat 20 for RDWR?

short blade May 26, 2023, 12:55 AM

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tRDRD and tWRWR should be x/8/x/x, not flat

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dd timings actually don't matter if you only have 2 dimms

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dd stands for different dimm lol

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if you have 2x DR you can do x/8/x/1

if you have 2x SR you can do x/8/1/1

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 1:15 AM

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Wdym by the x?

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As in auto?

steady lance May 26, 2023, 1:26 AM

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My clips didn't hold on the 180mm fan in perfectly so I had to redo it and decided that if I am gonna put fans blowing down on the VRMs and such I may as well go big or go home with dual 180mm fans.

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@short blade, how's this?

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ancient bridge May 26, 2023, 1:27 AM

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💀 💀 💀

short blade May 26, 2023, 1:27 AM

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wheat lintel Wdym by the x?

no, x as in some value, but the xs are all the same value

short blade May 26, 2023, 1:27 AM

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steady lance <@122901618369757184>, how's this?

GigaChad

steady lance May 26, 2023, 1:27 AM

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short blade <:GigaChad:913245202339213333>

Do you approve?

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😈

short blade May 26, 2023, 1:28 AM

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very nice

steady lance May 26, 2023, 1:29 AM

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Only problem with the setup is that I need to rezip it along where a 140mm exhaust would normally go if I ever wanna chip something.

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 1:29 AM

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short blade no, x as in some value, but the xs are all the same value

Ohhhh

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16/8/16/16 is nice and stable

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Me likey

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My auto value for X was 16 and no errors after 35 minutes of ycruncher

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I’ll fully test overnight later

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This is where im at so far

steady lance May 26, 2023, 1:45 AM

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short blade very nice

With the new layout there is SO SO SO MUCH AIR BEING EXHAUSTED!

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 1:47 AM

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I just ran Aida64 and my latency is 61.7 ns. I feel like that’s high for what I’m tuned to rn

steady lance May 26, 2023, 1:49 AM

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Would upping my core voltage allow my cpu to hit 4.8ghz more often?

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 1:51 AM

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What cpu?

steady lance May 26, 2023, 1:51 AM

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5700G.

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I know it hits 4.8ghz pretty regularly with my undervolt but I am wondering if I should up the voltage so it's more frequent.

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R7-5700G - CoreCycler test #8
Override:
+200mhz
Offsets:
-30
-30
-30
-24
-25
-30
-30
-30
Cores:
0 pass
1 pass
2 pass
3 pass
4 pass
5 pass
6 pass
7 pass

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Those are the undervolts and override I am currently working with that's stable.

steady lance May 26, 2023, 2:11 AM

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Just ran r23 and looked at CPU-Z and all my cores can hit 4.8GHz with 5 of them frequently hitting those speeds and the other 3 hitting them on occasion.

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Would upping the core voltage help them sustain those speeds?

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 2:29 AM

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Not bad, not bad i think

steady lance May 26, 2023, 2:30 AM

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steady lance Would upping the core voltage help them sustain those speeds?

just tried this, learned the hard way that it does not work....

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My clocks dropped by like 400mhz

short blade May 26, 2023, 2:38 AM

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steady lance Would upping the core voltage help them sustain those speeds?

no

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 2:41 AM

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Baaaaah I’m just ever so slightly unstable

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I’m so close to this being done I think

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Yep it’s my CAS that does it

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Can’t do less than 36

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 3:41 AM

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ssadge still not stable

short blade May 26, 2023, 3:56 AM

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raptor lake is such a confusing platform

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with auto tWTR, setting 1.325V VDDQ instantly destroyed my OS

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now that i'm lowering tWTR, it actually wants more VDDQ

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1.33 rn

sudden torrent May 26, 2023, 4:58 AM

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steady lance <@122901618369757184>, how's this?

Making proper use of the space in that Torrent I see 👍

steady lance May 26, 2023, 4:59 AM

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sudden torrent Making proper use of the space in that Torrent I see 👍

yep

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All my parts stay within 60c thanks to my fan settings.

undone flame May 26, 2023, 9:05 AM

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bruh 13900k is legit a room heater

sudden torrent May 26, 2023, 11:35 AM

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Yeah that tends to happen when it can use 300W at stock settings

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 12:19 PM

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Wait it uses 300w at stock settings?

zenith palm May 26, 2023, 12:26 PM

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wheat lintel Wait it uses 300w at stock settings?

Yep

ancient bridge May 26, 2023, 12:32 PM

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That lil 4 core fx all the way up the chart 💀

sudden torrent May 26, 2023, 12:39 PM

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That's a very important 4 core also
Because AMD lied about it and claimed it was an 8c/8t but the physical architecture was not there

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There was a big class action lawsuit about their "8 core" CPUs, I got a check in the mail for $15 lol

proven canopy May 26, 2023, 4:25 PM

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Not sure how they fit an lf2 on a 3990x, but that should pull 280w stock or something

vestal rune May 26, 2023, 4:31 PM

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Wait how on earth is a Liquid Freezer 360 cooling a 13900k and a 3970x. I'm already about to switch to a custom loop for my 5800x

faint tangle May 26, 2023, 4:46 PM

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vestal rune Wait how on earth is a Liquid Freezer 360 cooling a 13900k and a 3970x. I'm alre...

??

short blade May 26, 2023, 4:47 PM

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yes spend $400 on custom loop to get the last 1% in cinebench r23 from your $150 cpu 👍

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or you know you could use CO and PPT

vestal rune May 26, 2023, 4:48 PM

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short blade yes spend $400 on custom loop to get the last 1% in cinebench r23 from your $150...

I bought it at launch for full price. Works for everything I need, I just want lower temps

short blade May 26, 2023, 4:48 PM

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i also dailied a low bin launch 5800x

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galahad 360 did fine

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just set 160W PPT and some curve offsets

vestal rune May 26, 2023, 5:05 PM

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Come to think of it, I should run Cinebench and see what scores I get

ancient bridge May 26, 2023, 5:54 PM

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short blade or you know you could use CO and PPT

I forgot how much CO helped lmao

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I had it off for whatever reason

short blade May 26, 2023, 5:54 PM

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💀

ancient bridge May 26, 2023, 5:54 PM

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Single core is 5ghz now where with it off I only hit 4.8 🗿

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That was with r23

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 6:50 PM

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vestal rune Wait how on earth is a Liquid Freezer 360 cooling a 13900k and a 3970x. I'm alre...

I’m running a 13900k without PL on a CLC360 OCed to 6.1 All core without issues

steady lance May 26, 2023, 6:50 PM

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wheat lintel I’m running a 13900k without PL on a CLC360 OCed to 6.1 All core without issues

NOISE!!!

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 6:51 PM

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steady lance NOISE!!!

Not really much noise ngl

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You can barely hear it

steady lance May 26, 2023, 6:52 PM

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Stock fans?

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 6:54 PM

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Hell no

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Arctic P12s

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 6:55 PM

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Stock CLC fans are overly loud which is why he said that

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but tbh, that means nothing for what you were talking about

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custom loop on just a 5800x because "i want lower temps" is really stupid

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 6:57 PM

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finite frigate Stock CLC fans are overly loud which is why he said that

Forgot that people run the CLC with stock fans

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 6:58 PM

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Those insane people

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 6:58 PM

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fr 💀

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my clc has p14s on it

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 6:59 PM

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Completely unrelated but what is a good value for tCKE?

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4 is unstable for me

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 6:59 PM

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how

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 6:59 PM

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I think tCKE is causing it to be unstable at least

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 6:59 PM

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tCKE is only accessed in power down mode, cke is NOT unstable

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 6:59 PM

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I can't remember what I used

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 6:59 PM

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Weird, back to testing timings then

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I’m so close to being done with this

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I have 6 P12s on my CLC

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:00 PM

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tCKE doesnt need to be changed, basically ever, it will NEVER make a diff to performance, so either set it to the lowest value your platform allows or just keep it on auto

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:00 PM

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The tCKE I was using on ddr5 was 30 but it might vary on board

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I can say that's somewhat reliable cos I tested basically every timing on that damn kit

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Down to RTT's

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:01 PM

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tWR is being so annoying rn

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:01 PM

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what are your timings looking like right now?

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:02 PM

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Give me a sec, loading back into windows

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:02 PM

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kk

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:02 PM

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I just loosened my tWR by a decent amount

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finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:05 PM

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wheat lintel

i dont know if ddr5 is any different, but that tfaw is impossible/useless

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:05 PM

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Your trfc is hilariously low

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Tfaw 16 yes is pointless on ddr5 it'll just default to the lowest 32 on most boards

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Trefi can be higher, that's the ddr4 limit not ddr5

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Ddr5 goes up to 261120

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Tertiaries are loose

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:07 PM

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trefi being really high can cause issues

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:07 PM

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Yes but 65K is low af on ddr5

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131K or higher or don't bother

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The loss is too big

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:07 PM

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yeah, but values of like 200k can cause issues with stability, since youre not refreshing as much

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any change of trefi will require extensive stress testing

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:08 PM

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You may as well step down 200MHz tho for the perf loss if you can't run it high

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It's quite a big difference

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131K minimum imo

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:09 PM

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yeah i guess its kinda fair, but whos to say its only 200MHz, trefi is not a fun timing to tune and its nearly impossible to test trefi itself

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:10 PM

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When you're riding the bleeding edge it can rear it's ugly head a little

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But dialling it back can make finding the voltage sweet spot easier

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:10 PM

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yeah, but if you wnt to actually consistently stress trefi its a whole thing

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the best way to test trefi is leaving every timing the same and just clapping freq SUPER low

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so its something you HAVE to do after you test every other timing

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trefi is ultra annoying

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:11 PM

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On ddr4 it def is

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Ddr5 tho you get this inconsistency bs through voltages

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:11 PM

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which just makes it more annoying 💀

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:12 PM

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You can retrain the same settings and the whole thing goes from rock solid to custard

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And certain settings left auto on the board you'd normally never touch are the culprits

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Like dynamic settings on MSI boards in ram settings make for a bad time

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:13 PM

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its kinda sad but gigabyte has one of the best forms of ram oc autos 💀

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:13 PM

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If you don't set those up manually you'll get the "10000% stable, next boot 5 minutes until bsod" crap

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:13 PM

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asus and msi both suck at it

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:13 PM

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kind walrus If you don't set those up manually you'll get the "10000% stable, next boot 5 mi...

this is also due to g2+

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:13 PM

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finite frigate its kinda sad but gigabyte has one of the best forms of ram oc autos 💀

Pretty much, they just have such bad ddr5 support for high frequency

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:13 PM

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kind walrus Pretty much, they just have such bad ddr5 support for high frequency

it applies to d4 too

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:14 PM

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finite frigate this is also due to g2+

g4 is a can of worms I can't even touch 💀

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:14 PM

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gear2 (and above) is so tempermental, its basically impossible for it to be always stable

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it has issues with remaining stable after a few restarts/reboots

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:14 PM

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Hence why I just add redundancy a lot now

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Tired of the 1 in a million chances, and just prefer a wide net

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💀

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:15 PM

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its why i dont believe in a gear or command rate number above 1

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:15 PM

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Cr1 on ddr5 is literally impossible

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For anything that isn't a KP

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:15 PM

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unless its for bench, but tbh bench doesnt neat to be stable 💀

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even for bench i was running cr1

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:16 PM

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My 5900x is cr1 iirc

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:16 PM

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kind walrus Cr1 on ddr5 is literally impossible

yeah, its boards and the ranklayout of d5

#

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theres my daily

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:16 PM

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kind walrus Tertiaries are loose

What should I tighten my tertiaries to?

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:16 PM

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Oh sorry, KP or that 4 dimmer evga

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Classified?

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:16 PM

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yes

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:16 PM

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Z790 classified iirc

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It's a kp with 4 slots not 2

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:16 PM

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wheat lintel What should I tighten my tertiaries to?

this is a can of worms

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good luck 💀

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:16 PM

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Also, it’s these timings that are confusing me

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:17 PM

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wheat lintel What should I tighten my tertiaries to?

I haven't done 64gb yet

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:17 PM

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dont touch those

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:17 PM

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Ask forks

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:17 PM

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well only a few

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max out trefiX9, and txp to 4

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rest dont worry about

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:17 PM

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Don’t you set tWTR and TWR using them?

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:17 PM

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But basically all of the terts will need changing

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If they aren't already auto'd low

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:17 PM

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wheat lintel Don’t you set tWTR and TWR using them?

tWTR is set with WRRD_sg/dg

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:17 PM

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Some look pretty low

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:18 PM

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tWR is though

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:18 PM

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Like WRWR and RDRD seem low

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:18 PM

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16/8/16/16 is low?

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:18 PM

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its on some boards twr is controlled that way

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:19 PM

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Ohhh ok

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:19 PM

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wheat lintel 16/8/16/16 is low?

Not talking about those

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:19 PM

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Wdym then?

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:19 PM

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Wait no I was looking at floppas

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Smh

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My bad, 4am

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:20 PM

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my timings are as low as i can go felix

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mostly

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:20 PM

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It's different on d5 spare me

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😅

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:20 PM

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💀

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lots of my timings are basically as good as it gets on d4

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aside from trfc

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:20 PM

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So for my terts any recommendations on where to go from here?

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:21 PM

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but my terts are great

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:21 PM

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imagine not using memtweakit to daily 3/3/12 tRRD/tFAW smh my head floppa

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your timings are too loose

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:21 PM

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These pretty sure can be better

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:21 PM

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basically jedec

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:21 PM

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short blade imagine not using memtweakit to daily 3/3/12 tRRD/tFAW smh my head floppa

i use memtweakit to make my trefi 65535 💀

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:21 PM

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LOL

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+1 tREFI

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worth

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:21 PM

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IT BOTHERS ME

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:21 PM

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Rtp could be lower too @wheat lintel

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:21 PM

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make it 65536 gigachad

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:21 PM

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kind walrus These pretty sure can be better

I know, is there anywhere specific I should start with them or does it not matter?

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:22 PM

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short blade make it 65536 <:gigachad:925208863651799040>

oh my bad let me break binary

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:22 PM

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finite frigate i use memtweakit to make my trefi 65535 💀

if you already have it installed you should test 3/3/12 for meme

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:22 PM

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finite frigate oh my bad let me break binary

I can set 65536 on my ddr4 board

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Sip

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:22 PM

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short blade May 26, 2023, 7:22 PM

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can I actually run it? who knows lol

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:22 PM

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wheat lintel I know, is there anywhere specific I should start with them or does it not matte...

You can ask forks for basic numbers but most people know 32gb combos not 64gb. So they'll give you a bunch of numbers and then the others are just left as 1's. But those extras can't be left as ones

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:23 PM

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short blade can I actually run it? who knows lol

💀

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:23 PM

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now bench it

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:23 PM

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with what

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geekbench? 💀

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:23 PM

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everything

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floppabench r420

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:23 PM

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youre lucky i havent opened anything so aida is techincially semi accurate

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i lied WOW aida sucks

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:24 PM

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@wheat lintel primaries and secondaries look not bad nor RTL's tho, besides trtp

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RTL might go lower to like, 66/67

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But won't be a big gain

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:25 PM

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oh thats nto that bad i dont think

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:25 PM

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kind walrus <@480883524203839508> primaries and secondaries look not bad nor RTL's tho, besi...

TRRD_S & TRRD_L can be changed too I think

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:26 PM

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you should try 2/2/8 too

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:26 PM

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kind walrus TRRD_S & TRRD_L can be changed too I think

Won’t go below 8, tested that already

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:26 PM

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go run gb3

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:26 PM

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me?

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:26 PM

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yes

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:26 PM

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I’m not at home Sip

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:26 PM

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wheat lintel Won’t go below 8, tested that already

They shouldn't be the same tho, not both 8

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:26 PM

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rude

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:26 PM

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I mean

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:26 PM

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Oh they shouldn’t?

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:26 PM

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Nope

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:26 PM

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I guess gb3 probably runs on this ipad lmao

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:26 PM

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Try like, 7/28

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:26 PM

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cry about it 💀

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:26 PM

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Or 6/24

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:27 PM

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2/2/8

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:27 PM

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I couldn't get 8/8 stable on my board I had to follow jedec guidance

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:27 PM

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and it passed the hardest memory test in gb3

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:27 PM

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Also cos UX is dumb and you can't go below 7 on TRRD_S

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:28 PM

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IT DID NOT LIKE THAT

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:28 PM

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It totally could've done 6/24 if the firmware allowed it

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:28 PM

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1/9th performance loss by that 💀

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lemme run it again to be sure tho

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:28 PM

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you know what you must do floppa.

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0/0/0

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🗿

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0 * 4 = 0, math checks out

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:29 PM

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kind walrus Try like, 7/28

Wait so is tRRD_L*4=tRRD_S?

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:30 PM

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nah it absolutely hated that

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wow

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:30 PM

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wheat lintel Wait so is tRRD_L*4=tRRD_S?

Other way

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:30 PM

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wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:30 PM

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OHHHH

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:30 PM

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S=7 L=28

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Short and long

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That's what they stand for

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:30 PM

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wait wtf

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:30 PM

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I for some reason got in my head that it was tFAW=4* one of those

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:30 PM

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tRRD_S * 4 for tRRD_L? not tFAW?

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:30 PM

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Tfaw 32 and no lower

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:30 PM

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what is intel cooking

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:31 PM

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Below 32 purely doesn't work

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:31 PM

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I thought a lot of people were running 8/8/32

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:31 PM

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short blade tRRD_S * 4 for tRRD_L? not tFAW?

SO IM NOT GOING CRAZY

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:31 PM

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I ran 4/8/16 on ryzen ddr5

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🥴

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:31 PM

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short blade I ran 4/8/16 on ryzen ddr5

AAAH

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:31 PM

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finite frigate AAAH

I think you’ll probably bsod if you go to 1/1/4 yeah?

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:32 PM

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prolly

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:32 PM

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Wait but I found this though

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:32 PM

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let me see

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:32 PM

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you should actually see if 3/3/12 is stable and/or gives you any benefit

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:32 PM

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Can say what you want but 8/8 did not work on my 13th gen and hynix, just made 💩 worse

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:32 PM

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could try 8/16/32

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:32 PM

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i re ran 3/3/12

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its actually consistent

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2/2/8 sucks

kind walrus May 26, 2023, 7:32 PM

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wheat lintel Wait but I found this though

Strix-i is dumb on ddr5

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:32 PM

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short blade I think you’ll probably bsod if you go to 1/1/4 yeah?

if not ill get a swag ass screenshot

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:32 PM

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Also I can’t post 12/8/12/12 on tRDRD and tWRWR

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Unless I’m also supposed to bring 8 down too

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:33 PM

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nah that should stay at 8

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:33 PM

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1/1/4

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:33 PM

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he did it

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the madlad

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now it’s time for 0/0/0

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:33 PM

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lets see how it likes gb3

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:33 PM

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0/0/0

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Auto/Auto/Auto

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:34 PM

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we wait for Djikstra

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oh it passed

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what

wheat lintel May 26, 2023, 7:34 PM

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“Best possible DDR4 timings”

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:34 PM

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-1/-1/-4, your ram starts traveling back in time

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:34 PM

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big surprise

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it did not like 1/1/4

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:35 PM

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can you actually apply 0? lol

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:35 PM

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yes

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:35 PM

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finite frigate it did not like 1/1/4

if it’s dropping performance but not crashing, I have a feeling that it’s just overriding the settings to some default minimum

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:35 PM

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finite frigate

lmao

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post it on Reddit

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:36 PM

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short blade post it on Reddit

TRUE

short blade May 26, 2023, 7:36 PM

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can you do negative numbers?

finite frigate May 26, 2023, 7:36 PM

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nah