overclocking

[kind walrus]

Then power slider to max

Mhm

[jovial bluff]

uh strange

this is max?

[kind walrus]

Ah sorry

[jovial bluff]

but thats wrong

i was able to do 2200 a month ago

[kind walrus]

2150 is fine

[jovial bluff]

wait nvm

im dumb

lol

bet

[kind walrus]

If it runs then great

[kind walrus]

If not we do normal timing

[jovial bluff]

should i try 2100?

or do 2150 rn

[kind walrus]

Try 2150 rn

[jovial bluff]

alright so run spytest again

[kind walrus]

What you want is this to run through TS, then we will drag voltage down

[proven canopy]

I like to try a binary search approach. Set a high estimate of what you think it can clock, e.g. 2200, if that fails, try 2100, if that passes, 2150 etc

[kind walrus]

Then the score will go up

[proven canopy]

Then knock it down a notch for daily stability

[kind walrus]

I do that too

It's quick

[jovial bluff]

But undervolting is bad for performance on fps games is what iv been told especially on a 6900xt

[zenith palm]

Well yeah but a 60c delta is a huge issue that isn't going away with UV

[kind walrus]

Ofc not but UV is where the scores go nyoom

[zenith palm]

Nope

[proven canopy]

I had a -20 CO offset stable through 5 passes ycruncher 1B, 10000% karhu, 12 hours corecycler, would still drop the gpu occasionally in daily windows at low load

[zenith palm]

Yeah vut 60c delta that could be fixed by simple gentle tightening of screws could be worth a shot

[kind walrus]

Can tell you first hand it's not true, especially with us working to the standard software rn

[kind walrus]

Could, what if it makes it worse tho?

Then they have to take it apart

Not denying the method just acknowledging the anxiety

[proven canopy]

I'd loop something like valley or gt2 for 10 mins, use hwinfo or something to record average temps, hotspot over that interval, save a screenshot, tighten, then compare

Take note of ambient temps

[jovial bluff]

Oh alright

[zenith palm]

i doubt it if they do it right

[jovial bluff]

Isn’t super stition good for these type of tests though ?
Or soy better

Spy test

[kind walrus]

In gigglybits we trust

Superposition can be a very good test

But Time spy GT2 is very reliable

[jovial bluff]

Ohh

[kind walrus]

It also scales to 4K (extreme)

[zenith palm]

especially since its happened to me with gaming oc granted NV but still fairly similar cooler, and mine would max at 70c but hotspot would creep up to 100c pretty quick and keep climbing

and tightening is basically the fix

[jovial bluff]

Hotspot stating same as other temps

83-89

Hit 90 once so far

[kind walrus]

My boi I agree, but if they're scared then I'm not gonna be the one to encourage it lol

I was tightening my 13900KF block today to get it dialed in mid-test

[jovial bluff]

I can I try tightening the backplate after

I mean I can try^

[kind walrus]

There ya go

[jovial bluff]

I did reseat it twice so maybe it became loose

My gpu temp hasn’t reached 70

My normal temps I mean

Pretty dang good

[kind walrus]

It's good but it can definitely go faster

[jovial bluff]

93 max it reached so far

Only once stayed there for a mklosev

Milisec

Now i lower it to 2100 instead of 2150

[kind walrus]

Yes

[jovial bluff]

what about the max freq for gpu?

leave it at 2600?

[kind walrus]

Max freq is fine

You could drop to 2550 if you want

Sometimes a slightly lower max helps

[jovial bluff]

my default was 2524

[kind walrus]

Test 1 was unstable tho

[jovial bluff]

true

[kind walrus]

So quite possible that it's mem

[jovial bluff]

okay ill run 2550 after this 2600 with 2100 to see if it goes above

[kind walrus]

Try 2550 and 2100

[jovial bluff]

bety

bet*

[kind walrus]

If still not better then 2150 normal timings

[jovial bluff]

My cpu is prolly what I do next

But how kuch will this benefit me fps wise

Also question

I leave the glass panel on right while gaming

I never take it off

[kind walrus]

Depends on the game

[jovial bluff]

Apex, cod, battlefield 2042

[kind walrus]

Idk if it's gonna be better in those games or not

It just depends on the game

Some games may be a lot better, some little to none

[jovial bluff]

True

I get 240 fps on ultra settings on2k res for apex

[jovial bluff]

Temps are fine so far

[jovial bluff]

.

[kind walrus]

We went back up

[jovial bluff]

so about 40 difference iush

mhm

[kind walrus]

Try 2150 normal timings

Back to 2600 max clock

[jovial bluff]

wait

was i suppose to be running all these tests at normal timing or fast timing

iv been doing fast timing

[proven canopy]

Just open up a google sheet real quick and jot down some notes

[kind walrus]

Yea a spreadsheet can help

[jovial bluff]

this though

[kind walrus]

I intended this

[jovial bluff]

oh alright so this is the first test on default timings

[kind walrus]

Mhm

[jovial bluff]

Alright running it rn

[kind walrus]

If this runs 2150 default then we're gonna drag the voltage down next

[jovial bluff]

If it beats the score?

[zenith palm]

yeye thats valid but i bet it would help a lot

[kind walrus]

We're circling now

[kind walrus]

Beats or matches

[jovial bluff]

Okay rn it’s hits 93 94 92

More than usual@

Only for a sec though

Running test 1 now

[kind walrus]

It's fine

[jovial bluff]

Test one THR temps for hot spot 90c didn’t dip

Only twice to. 87

Okay test 2 the gpu hot spot stayed at 90-92 whole test

And my regular temps 72

[kind walrus]

Max clock 2550

Voltage 1.1V

[jovial bluff]

1100?

[kind walrus]

Ima speed it up a notch

Try 1.1v

[jovial bluff]

whats that in eimple terms lol-

[kind walrus]

1100

[jovial bluff]

normal timings?

?

[kind walrus]

Ye

[proven canopy]

A lot of my cards perform better with higher clocks at default timings for whatever reason, just bad binning luck, mostly

The ref 6900xt had decent mem though

[zenith palm]

Lol

Mid test

[jovial bluff]

Good temsp@so far

92-93 hotspot for test 2 though

\

[jovial bluff]

so maybe 2100 now?

[kind walrus]

Yeah 2100 fast timings

Also set, 2500 max clock

[jovial bluff]

Alright that’s below default

[kind walrus]

Yes

But if it runs smoother as a result it's a net positive

[jovial bluff]

ooh

Run the test again now

[kind walrus]

See the first half here? It's not running max clock all the time

[jovial bluff]

ooh mhm

[kind walrus]

Point of undervolting is to bring it up to that par

As much as possible while still being stable

[jovial bluff]

oo okay

[kind walrus]

Yes

[kind walrus]

I experienced this with the XTX iirc

[kind walrus]

Bing bing

We are getting somewhere now

Lower the voltage a little more, make max clocks to 2550

1075 voltage

[jovial bluff]

bet

run the test?

[kind walrus]

Mhm

[jovial bluff]

Bet running it rn

[kind walrus]

Expect it to maybe crash

[jovial bluff]

Alright

How come

[kind walrus]

Unlikely but possible

Voltage will start creeping lower until it's too low

[jovial bluff]

Oo

1075 is the lowest Iv ever gone

Temps 72c 92c

[kind walrus]

Temps will be pretty consistent

It'll keep using power headroom with the lower voltage

[kind walrus]

Hee hee hee

We goin faster

Drop voltage again

1050

[jovial bluff]

that has to be to low.. no way thats good for perforamnce

[kind walrus]

2575 max clock

No? It's going up

It's getting faster and faster

[jovial bluff]

wait im dumb dont mind that sentence

LOL

Run it again

[kind walrus]

Mhm

[jovial bluff]

crashed

[kind walrus]

Ok so same settings but voltage at 1060 instead

[jovial bluff]

if it opens up again

gonna retart pc lol

Forgot to save profile so gonbna set power limit in amd again and restart

Good>

[kind walrus]

Ye

[jovial bluff]

Running it

Think it will crash?

Temps high on this one

95C

96

[jovial bluff]

Now what should we do

only went up a ish mount

[jovial bluff]

^

[jovial bluff]

welpp

Maybe its the best we can do ? i dont wanna be clock stretching @kind walrus

[jovial bluff]

@kind walrus not using these undervolt settings. wont load apex withouyt crashing

Not stable at all tried 3 different settings to.,

[jovial bluff]

these are the onl ones that work

Using it

[kind walrus]

Then use these

If it's faster then great, that's gonna be about as best as we can do without MPT or repaste

As what Forks said earlier, we find what's good in Time spy then dial it back a little bit for a daily tune

You've done exactly that

If you find it crashing in the future just keep adding a tiny bit more voltage

Until it's stable

[remote zenith]

i just brought new 6800xt for my new pc arrive middle on jan. 5600/32 gig ram 3600 gf1 850w psu. when would i overclock my gpu. i have never overclock my rx560

[eternal relic]

whenever u feel like it?

[zenith palm]

Do you mean where?

[eternal relic]

finally got quad channel working again

tuning mem properly now

[eternal relic]

unstable at 4000%, sad. guess im doing it 1 timing at a time like a good boy

[eternal relic]

i hate ram oc

xmp subs and terts, just tuned primaries running karhu

not even tight either 😔

[remote zenith]

Have no clue about oc gpu

[zenith palm]

well considering you have a 6800xt, you should use either the radeon drivers or OverDriven or MCT ( more clock tool)

[remote zenith]

I still dont know when should i oc the gpu. I never done oc on the gpu b4. I used my old rx 560 2gb without oc

[zenith palm]

what do you mean when?

[remote zenith]

Should i oc the gpu all the time?

[zenith palm]

yeah just leave the oc on

[remote zenith]

I have no idea what speed should i set it. Or can i just use base speed

[latent wave]

there is no harm (as long as temps are fine)

[latent wave]

theres a guide in pins

or somewhere

.oc

,oc

!oc

@zenith palm whats the command?

[zenith palm]

no command

[zenith palm]

you can just leave it stock but if you want to OC you need to do it incrementally and test

[latent wave]

use 3Dmark (on steam, free) to test

[remote zenith]

Probably base is fine. Im mostly gonna play open world and rpgs at 4k60 with 6800xt

It sucks that i have 2 wait til middle of jan 2 get my 6800xt

[zenith palm]

well its up to you

[latent wave]

increase by 15 Mhz for core clock, then test in timespy 3Dmark

max out Powerlimit and temp limit - monitor to make sure temps are still fine

[zenith palm]

idk what increments rdna2 uses but 15 is probably a safe bet

[latent wave]

ohh this is AMD...yeah idk either

[short blade]

i think my 5700xt was something weird like 10.3 lol

I remember going between 1338, 1359, 1369, 1379, 1390, and 1400

[sudden torrent]

Alright I think this is where my daily OC is going to land. I might be able to squeeze a little more out of tRFC and such but I think this'll do nicely. TM5 stable.

[eternal relic]

imc stressed?

[sudden torrent]

What do you mean?
It's not posting at 3800 c18 or even 3733 if that's what you mean

4 sticks, 2 mismatched kits of b-die

[proven canopy]

Are they both the same pcb?

Should be able to do 1 4 1, 1 6 1 tertiaries

8rdwr is low, 4rrd is high

scls at 2 should be stable

wtrl 8, twr 12 should be fine

rrd's/faw to 4/4/16

rcdwr should have no problem at 8

[eternal relic]

i mean have u stressed the imc lol

[sudden torrent]

I couldn't get it to 2 even with just my old kit

[eternal relic]

tm5 dosent tend to stress imc very much unless amd works differently, havent touched ryzen

[proven canopy]

That's very strange at 3600

[sudden torrent]

Well I guess I didn't try at 3600, just 3800 previously

[proven canopy]

Usually don't have to raise scl until well over 4000

[sudden torrent]

You suggest P95 or something then?

[eternal relic]

i used y cruncher n32, n64, and vst settings to stress imc

[sudden torrent]

Well I couldn't get it to post scl 2 at 3800, had to reset cmos even

[eternal relic]

and then just run karhu overnight later on

[sudden torrent]

Oh well yes I did y-cruncher

[eternal relic]

this pretty meh not that tight 4000 passes tm5 extreme and absolut, blue screens from aida mem bench

[sudden torrent]

That's my standard quick test for stability

[eternal relic]

y crunchy stable, i could only get 3600 with same timings

god awful imc, might have negative uncore scaling tho ill test later but i cant be bothered atm

[sudden torrent]

I know my IMC is decent because of the timings I got previously

Not the best, but far from the worst

This is what I had previously with 2 dimms https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/610602203849162772/985101243460501575/unknown.png

I could probably get 1 or 2 more out of a couple timings I know, but I'm at the point of diminishing returns. This is just a daily OC for gaming. I'll do a bench OC later.

[sudden torrent]

Alright how's this look

[restive sequoia]

noticed high clock speeds is harder to do in games with rt turned on but traditional raster games higher clock speeds dont crash

[kind walrus]

Yup

That's pretty normal on nvidia

[eternal relic]

for a daily stable oc u want to be stable in everything

wouldve actually been awesome to be able to have a clock offset for RT stuff like with AVX and SSE

[kind walrus]

That's a neat idea actually

Then you could play raw raster a bit faster

[tall pelican]

isnt that just setting a lower power limit?

[sudden torrent]

The AVX offset? No

[eternal relic]

i always have my pl's unlocked one way or another, so

[tall pelican]

for gpus

you can also use power limits to make a pseudo avx offset

[eternal relic]

yeah on gpus lol

i always just have bios flashed or shunted for daily

[gusty star]

Hey guys. My friend has a kraken x62 on his overclocked Intel i7 7700k. And it keeps blue screening due to cpu temp because the kraken starts in silent mode. Any ideas how to force it to go full throttle from bios?

[zenith palm]

They should just be able to change their fan settings for the aio in bios and make sure the pump speed is 100% too

[short blade]

if it's hitting thermal shutdown instead of just throttling it's probably not about whatever silent mode is

probably a bad mount, bad paste, or failed pump

[gusty star]

I don't think it's thermal paste. He just changed cases. Then re-enabled his overclock he has used for years. It's weird. Nothing was unplugged from board besides sata, USB, or anything directly from his old case. Cooler, ram, and everything stayed attached

[short blade]

maybe pump coincidentally failed

[kind walrus]

Old paste?

Maybe cracked from movement?

[pallid nest]

1. Probs not the case 2. Nzxt stuff is only able to be controlled with nzxt cam software

[restive sequoia]

i really hate this core clock and temperature ratio

but probably thats what is stopping my card from melting itself

[gusty star]

yea. I was worried that was the case about Cam. Thank you

[pallid nest]

Don't you love nzxt products

You can ONLY use nzxt cam to control them

[gusty star]

You would think they would integrate Bios to it. just like any other cpu cooler. But I guess they wanted to be edgy

[pallid nest]

You need a nzxt mobo

[gusty star]

Idk how I feel about those. So used to a busy looking mobo. Those are too clean. lol

[pallid nest]

I wouldn't buy it

[gusty star]

do people even still use 2T2R Ports anymore?

[eternal relic]

yeah

i mean i removed the wifi module from my board when i was putting LET on but i do use 2T2R fairly often still

[proven canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/america-patriotic-eagle-usa-patriotism-gif-9438241

[mental turret]

wow what happened to australia

[pallid nest]

Felix broke it

[mental turret]

same

LN2 was not working for me this time around

Yea it's always nice to have extra free time to work on a productive hobby

what lol

well I consider it relatively productive too

but yea it is lots of fun as well

thats one of the reasons i like benching'

well yea thats how it is for me too

It's sorta passively productive i mean, if that makes sense

[kind walrus]

We do be learning

Indood

[mental turret]

yea that what i mean too

[kind walrus]

I'm waiting for MPT before I play with XTX

Also my rams

But yes once my two things are repaired I'm getting into ram OC

[mental turret]

what're you ocing first

[kind walrus]

Try b ded on my 10850K(10900K) again, 12900K hynix M and 13900K Hynix A

[mental turret]

that should keep you busy for a while lol

[kind walrus]

10850K I know I'll get like, 4000-ish at reasonable timings

Yea

[mental turret]

what CPU benchmarks are you gonna focus on

[kind walrus]

I'm board limited on the 10th chip

[mental turret]

you're not gonna do much 3d i assume?

[proven canopy]

Might get some decent global team power points with the xtx, but 4090 just too stronk

[kind walrus]

I'll do 3dmark too

Maybe superposition as well

Indood

[mental turret]

indood

[kind walrus]

• feels strange pressure *

[proven canopy]

yeah, try beat seby/zippy/dreadzone's 4090 subs

I think flagship has a few as well

[kind walrus]

I was like, 90 points off dreadzone when I last checked

[proven canopy]

I'd go for this in win7 https://hwbot.org/submission/5112982_zippytek_unigine_superposition___1080p_xtreme_geforce_rtx_4090_23815_points

Actually, win10/11 is still the play

[kind walrus]

[proven canopy]

80 globals is a lot

[kind walrus]

Go super position first?

I can do that but I'll need A die pointers

[proven canopy]

Up to you, they're probably all on the same os/driver

[kind walrus]

Ggood got 8000 running on UX so I have 2 boards that could potentially do high clock

[proven canopy]

Just need to set lod for some benches

I think

[kind walrus]

Ok I'll come back to this in a couple days

For now, new years and repairs

My 3090 got issues rn

TUF dun like K5 on the top side mem heatsink

Need repad

[proven canopy]

Just picked up a 3090 kp, will give it the juice eventually

[mental turret]

da jucie

[mental turret]

@celest notch are you gonna bench today

[mental turret]

just wondering

[kind walrus]

I fixed the 3090 mem temps

Now happily at about 85C

[restive sequoia]

Gpu core temp?

[mental turret]

what was wrong with it?

[kind walrus]

Core is 63C

Like every GA102

[kind walrus]

Mem junction uncomfortably over 100C under synthetics when it's usually lower lol

[mental turret]

I mean what was causing that issue

[kind walrus]

Oh, K5 no like long distance relationships

[mental turret]

huh?

[kind walrus]

K5 pro doesn't like the long way around

[mental turret]

im so lost

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-voices-in-my-head-voices-cat-gif-23453583

[kind walrus]

K5 pro like being mooshed not handholding REEEEE

[mental turret]

I am going to blow it up

[sudden torrent]

Cursed board. I approve. If you're going to use AM3+ you want a 970 or 990 board anyway.

[mental turret]

Yea a customer just brought in an old cyberpower prebuilt to recycle, this is what was in it

only useful thing in it was a couple 4gb dimms

useful to sell in bulk

I kinda wanted the case ngl

[kind walrus]

Wat r u gonna do wit it

[kind walrus]

Wat r u gonna do with it??

[sudden torrent]

Yeah but how will it blow up

[mental turret]

pretty sure this board doesnt allow overvolting so.... voltage injection lol

we'll see

[kind walrus]

Wat r u go-

[mental turret]

what lol

[kind walrus]

[sudden torrent]

So you're gonna bust a cap on it

[mental turret]

though maybe ill just keep it, it would be my only am3+ board and i dont plan on buying literally any pre-2018 AMD boards ever

[proven canopy]

Lol that the vcore caps are 6.3v

fb mod it until it gives up the magic smoke

[mental turret]

[mental turret]

I have decided i will not nuke the motherboard (for now)

its death sentence has been indefinitely postponed

[eternal relic]

i sense nforce

downgrade to 1 phase and see if it explodes

[proven canopy]

Gotta climb the 2023 leaderboards
https://hwbot.org/submission/5159539_forks_geekbench3___multi_core_core_i3_12300_39952_points
https://hwbot.org/submission/5159551_forks_hwbot_x265_benchmark___4k_core_i3_12300_16.48_fps

[pallid nest]

wish i could blow stuff up without people yelling at me

[sudden torrent]

You just need to know how to blow it up properly so you don't endanger others

[pallid nest]

[mental turret]

🅱️oints

[jovial bluff]

anyone know how to turn my window drivers back on

[zenith palm]

You're gonna have to change your group policy (most likely done by your cooperation/school)

[scenic vine]

Arc testing

[kind walrus]

Interesting, A die 64gb kits have a 4800 jedec

Either that or my g.skill kit is mislabeled

[scenic vine]

Kits with XMP profiles usually dont bother with JEDEC freq

[kind walrus]

Interesting. I figured the base jedec would be 5600 is all but meh ig

Lol

[mental turret]

jedec is pretty irrelevant for consumer kits in general

[sudden torrent]

My b-die kit has a 2133 jedec

They do low speed ones for stability

[kind walrus]

My b die also has 2133 jedec but I figured it was the base for A die IC's so sorta surprised me lol

[kind walrus]

@modern walrus I think I'm board limited rn. Getting the same results on both the 12th and 13th chips

Hynix m caps 6800, hynix a capz 7600

Sadge, I wonder what results I'd have on another board

[kind walrus]

I want A81U4

YUS

YUUSSS

[zenith palm]

Yusss?

[eternal relic]

my testing:
-ran superpos 1080p extreme twice
-card boiled
-fans didnt spin past 15% pwm
-backplate glue got so hot backplate fell off
-i got bored and put it back in box

[scenic vine]

Acer app lets you set Fan speed, PL

Works on all cards

I can cool 330w on my A750 stock cooler

Max OC I got stable was 2815mhz

timespy stable for 30m looped

I can bench 3ghz+

[restive sequoia]

ig max fan speed?

[modern walrus]

auto SA, VDD2, & VDDQ?

this POSTs 8000c32-46-46-46-auto but ymmv

MC PLL should be 1.050 not E-Core L2 PLL my bad

[kind walrus]

[zenith palm]

Brrrr

[mental turret]

these companies still calling it MHz

bruh

[sudden torrent]

And they wonder why people get confused

When cpuz reports half

[mental turret]

yea

[kind walrus]

[mental turret]

baller

[potent fiber]

Pretty nuts that ram is now (that much) higher than any stock cpu, awesome. Any gear 1 ddr4 testing w/ 13400/13500 yet? 12600K price currently quite stinky.

[scenic vine]

4200-4400 on good RPL chips

Gear 1

If the locked CPUs still have locked SA I'd expect much less

Perhaps 3800

[exotic swan]

hi ? any one know about Asrock n768c-succ bord

[kind walrus]

I can get 7200 to post on 64gb but any more and it's a hard nope

I feel like I should be closer than that

[zenith palm]

Kachow

[short blade]

lol the magic sauce

14 odt finetune

i have no idea what it does but it works wonders on the imc

[kind walrus]

It does for A die

[short blade]

it does for my ddr4 too

[kind walrus]

For M die it be a noper

[short blade]

i was hard walled at 3900 gear 1

[kind walrus]

My m die walls at 6800 on this board regardless of chip or settings lol

[short blade]

tried 14 odt finetune/15 rx equalization/1.05 mc sfr pll/1.25 e-core l2 and got 4133

[kind walrus]

Hard wall

I can run everything auto or tighten timings down and I still get stuck at 6800

[short blade]

sad

[kind walrus]

It's...unusual

I feel like there's a setting we don't know about or some voltage behaviour that's fundamentally wrong like

I don't get any bios hanging or weirdness

At all

Not once

It was buttery smooth, but would hang in training on any freq. it doesn't like

It would do this both on M and A past certain frequencies but it wouldn't give a damn what the voltages were (within reason)

Maybe I'm grasping at straws, with what little experience I have

[kind walrus]

Maybe it be a gear thing

[scenic vine]

Yeah the card has a really stupid fan curve by default

100% is about 2800 RPM and it scales well

[scenic vine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/940688440402530364/1060207897008680960/14k.png

[faint tangle]

What's the a750 similar to again?

Bc that's almost 1000 points above my 3060 ti

[scenic vine]

3060

Kek

[faint tangle]

Guess timespy likes intel gpus lol

[scenic vine]

Arc is just good at timespy

Stock A750 gets ~12500p

This is running 2.9ghz

[faint tangle]

That's almost what my 3060 ti gets oced as far as it can go lol

Best I've seen was 13100

[scenic vine]

I'm fairly certain some games will scale like 3dmark, but many others wont

[zenith palm]

Didn't arc have a scandal for having something that would boost timespy perf?

[restive sequoia]

gaming perf is below 3060 tho

optimized af for ts

[scenic vine]

That is something that you can toggle in the driver

The benchmark will show up as invalid if I had the optimizations enabled

[zenith palm]

Ah okay

[sudden torrent]

Does the 9600k support rebar?

[restive sequoia]

iirc its 10th gen and upwards

[sudden torrent]

I thought so too but then I saw modded bios for x79 working with it and now I never know lol

[scenic vine]

Yes

Z390 supports rebar

All 300-series Intel chipsets do

It's still pcie3 which isn't optimal

[sudden torrent]

I don't see it saturating 16 3.0 lanes anyway, being midrange as it is

[scenic vine]

Well I'm going to test when I go to work

[kind walrus]

64gb NYOOM

Damn, 7466 doesn't

Oh well

As I get faster and faster and more stoop

Time for my 32gb kit

it really doesn't care about voltages

this bios likes 64gb on this board but 32 or 16 A and it nopes out unlike the a81u4 one

A81u4 I do 8266 1 dimm, this is 8200 max

but a81 struggles to post 7000 let alone 7200 64gb

meanwhile this posts 7400

last try

oh nvm 8266 finally worked

won't do 8400 tho, training much faster with auto vddq, vdd2 and sa

ok gonna try stick to this bios

until there's something better

[kind walrus]

Yup sticking with this bios

[kind walrus]

5.8 8p 6.1 2p 4.6e @1.35V LLC 4 99.8 BCLK

[zenith palm]

Why not 100bclk smh

[kind walrus]

Too unstable

[kind walrus]

Ur mum

[zenith palm]

Sadge

[zenith palm]

Noreeeeee

[eternal relic]

99.8 bclk, fancy lol

im lazy and just -1x instead of touching bclk for dailu

[kind walrus]

Ggood and forks put me onto using it

Honestly my 12th gen chip hates anything not bclk 100

But my 13th seems to not care, if anything, happier? On different bclk

[zenith palm]

Hmm maybe i should not force 100 bclk which i was doing then

[restive sequoia]

I can suddenly do 1200+ memory stable now

Dk why it used to crash before

[kind walrus]

Beating a 32core threadripper 3975WX now

I'm only 6K off a 64 core epyc

[kind walrus]

6.1 2p 5.8 8p 4.65e 5.1 ring 1.36V 99.7 BCLK

Hmm. Gained maybe 180 more points in 3dmark pushing the cpu way harder? I think this is my limit

I improved a fair bit tho

Need to sit down and do ram still. I keep saying this

Actually

I forgot I was using 6400 64gb not 7200 32gb

I think it's actually quite a bit faster

[proven canopy]

13900k 32t?

Guessing you have ecores off?

nvm, thought it was regular ts

[kind walrus]

It's extreme ye

So I'm thinking if I did direct die I'd have more in the tank, 6.2 sorta runs?

Either way prolly not gonna do it. System is cool enough for benching ambient

[proven canopy]

I'd much sooner build/buy a chiller than run direct die

[kind walrus]

Fair

I mean I kinda wanna avoid it too

Delidding has risks that's why I haven't done it

Tho using a chiller would be possible

[eternal relic]

throw rad in bucket of ice water

[mental turret]

i approve.

[eternal relic]

[sudden torrent]

I recommend a pond pump in your ice bath to agitate it, keep the cold water flowing by the fins

[mental turret]

Eh it's not super necessary, moving the rad around a bit works just as well if not better

[kind walrus]

Hm

$4 for a bag of ice and a bit of water

at some point but not now

[mental turret]

Do it

[sudden torrent]

Just be prepared for condensation

[zenith palm]

Now make ram go brr

All the rookies using aios in ice bath, use tower cooler

[potent fiber]

Horizontal upside down mobo & hang tower into ice bath? Actually would be funny to see that

[kind walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/mission-impossible-tom-cruise-breaking-in-break-in-im-in-gif-15687772

[zenith palm]

just rest mobo on edges of box ez pz

[pallid nest]

Ay I should do this

Ultimate cooling

[mental turret]

Well I don't see why you shouldn't try

It's fun

[short blade]

kenzie is going to find a way to break the water

[pallid nest]

WOW

[mental turret]

https://tenor.com/view/boxing-punching-under-water-creed2-michael-b-jordan-gif-12042730

[eternal relic]

7970 lightning
770 lightning
280x toxic
970 msi smth boring
760 asus smth boring
blow vrm 780 leadex smth smth

lightnings both work tested

i have my doubts the other 3 work but vrms should still be fun to mess with my first epower stuff if at least those r alive

total cost was $50 sg in some random singapore shop i found yesterday, brought them back to Australia today lol

780 has a lil crater in vrm, might still be worth reusing the lil mlcc's on it tho coz im too cheap to bulk buy those already

[mental turret]

noice

I've never really been into gpus for some reason 😔

[potent fiber]

I sure would've taken all those for a Grant ($50).

[kind walrus]

The ddr numbers too high for you?

[proven canopy]

Legacy gpu benching with a modern cpu is 3d point farming

[mental turret]

That doesn't even make sense 🗿

[kind walrus]

What, 6>3?

[restive sequoia]

soo being above a 1950x good or bad?

single core score btw

[mental turret]

Well zen single core performance is a pretty low bar for modern chips.

[mental turret]

[kind walrus]

Can't handle the G's brah

[mental turret]

stoopid

Have respect for ddr3 smh

[kind walrus]

Ddr3 never helped me

Ididot

I went from ddr2 - ddr4 (no I actually did)

(not rly)

[mental turret]

Cope

[kind walrus]

Not really coping on flagship performance brah

Ddr5>ddr3

Bigger number clearly better

[potent fiber]

Not very techie of ya if ya skipped ddr3, lol. Any cpu I recall w/ ddr2 sure was much slower than 2600k/3770.

[kind walrus]

Honestly before my first gaming pc, everything is a blur of xbox one/360

I don't know what my older pc's had

Ddr? Maybe

I had a pavilion from like 1997 at one point

[mental turret]

felix doesnt know what a ddr3 is

@kind walrus what is this

[kind walrus]

Duh a ram

Smh

[potent fiber]

I'm used to not even having xmp for my ram, haha. Wait a sec, that adata was labeled as a 4x8GB kit. That's what I need, lol. Actually if just for gaming or benching I suppose a 2x8GB set is fine. When tax return comes maybe I'll pick up some fun extra ram. Obviously 1866c9 isn't crazy. That's 4dimms.

[mental turret]

IDENTIFY IT

[potent fiber]

What sort of price you pay recently? Also checkout this fun Geil kit (2x8GB for $30. A lot of stuff is way more.

[mental turret]

I dont buy 8GB dimms

I dont need the density and they arent good for overclocking

I guess maybe if i wanted to do ycruncher 10B or something

I do want some geil dimms though. they have some good stuff

just havent come across any of that yet

[kind walrus]

It's the

iiwiwiwiwii

[mental turret]

the

?

ah okay

[kind walrus]

[mental turret]

indubitably

[potent fiber]

Dang most 2400c11 on ebay is 2x8GB or such, then some people want $45-50 for 2x4GB.

[mental turret]

most sellers on ebay are idiots

[eternal relic]

best i can do is 7980xe with my gpus

i just like modding cards then benching them

beating everyone excluding alder/raptor people is still fun enough for me

[proven canopy]

Decent for vantage, tse, fse, and 3dm11

[eternal relic]

yeah

just disable/enable cores and pump clocks

[mental turret]

[ancient bridge]

anything yall think i should change?

6700xt gaming x card been pretty stable at 2.8-2.9

[eternal relic]

yeah well i have a funny lil sponsor on my hwbot

[proven canopy]

https://hwbot.org/submission/5167354_forks_y_cruncher___pi_1b_ryzen_9_7900x_15sec_978ms

[sudden torrent]

Well if that sponsor is someone like Asus and they're sending binned parts and engineering samples... It certainly doesn't hurt

[sterile flame]

whats the benefit of xmp

[potent fiber]

A quick/ez "oc" & would put ram at what it's rated, otherwise we get a lower ram speed & performance is impacted. (edit: CAS/CL-caslatency is the 1st main latency number). Quick example:

[sterile flame]

Enable temp dependent vmin in the features tab, then take advantage of proper voltage control. I'm not sure how much headroom 6700 xt's have on air, but more voltage (within reason) is always welcome for sustaining better clocks if you can cool it

Although I'm not sure about the clock limits on that particular card. You could already be up against the driver limit for all I know

[ancient bridge]

honestly im fine with 2.9 lol dont want to push my card to far just memory is rlly anoying cause u can only go up too 2150

[sterile flame]

Fair enough. The memory clock limit is super annoying for higher resolutions. You'd think that with a smaller bus width tier to tier vs RTX 3000, that AMD would want users to scrape out a little bit of extra bandwidth

[ancient bridge]

fr like ik damm well this mem can go over the stupid 150 boost limit

[sterile flame]

Tbf that 150mhz works out to 1200mbps, but yeah. The fact that literally every card under the sun can hit that with tight timings should indicate that there's at least a bit of headroom to be unlocked lol

[restive sequoia]

Insane mem bandwidth oc

And guy says it's stable in games also doesn't lose performance due to ecc

[zenith palm]

Cope

[ancient bridge]

😭 my card dont let me do 💩

[short blade]

i saw a guy mining on 2 3080s that could do higher than +2000

i think one was +2100 and one was +2400

getting like 110 mh/s with no invalid shares

no clue how that guy got two golden samples like that

my 3080 could only do 93 mh/s with +275 🤡

maybe this guy's 3070ti could go above +2000 as well

the above 3080s were being oced via batch file but i think PX1 allows up to +3000 in software?

worth a shot

[faint tangle]

Happy pills 3070 ti vram is a golden bin

Hes shown me it before when he mined eth with it

[zenith palm]

Usually with mining you need to lower clocks a good bit compared to gaming

[kind walrus]

Gaming vs. gaming

[zenith palm]

Sorry my brain no worries today

[short blade]

that was not my experience

[kind walrus]

Eat a snickers potato

Ur not u when ur hungry

[short blade]

my 3090 was stable at 1300 in mining, 1100 in gaming

actual clock same due to pl2

similar story with all of my 3070s

and my 3080

[zenith palm]

Okay well good bit is probably a bit generous but at least a couple hundred mhz

[short blade]

well for all of my ampere cards it was 0

so idk lol

[kind walrus]

Why you running the same clocks in mining?

Full power limit?

[zenith palm]

You just said you ran 1300vs 1100?

[kind walrus]

Da hecc

[short blade]

vram clock not core clock

+1300 in mining and +1100 in gaming on the 3090

[kind walrus]

Well downclocking the core you will find more stable mem def

[zenith palm]

Yeah so you did lower clocks

[short blade]

…what

[zenith palm]

Mem clocks

[short blade]

read again

[zenith palm]

You ran lower clocks while gaming?

I'm so confused

[short blade]

no

[kind walrus]

Sir this is a Wendy's

I'm confused as hell too

[short blade]

same clocks due to pstates

but higher offset in mining

[zenith palm]

Oh i forgot about pstates

[short blade]

I’ve never seen a card where you have to run lower memory clocks in mining than gaming

my laptop didn’t do pstates so it was just +1600 in both

[zenith palm]

Okay sorry well lower offset then my b forgot pstates made the clocks drop

[short blade]

3070s I did pstate 0 override so +1100 in both

what

no

you run a HIGHER offset in mining

to offset the pstate drop

[zenith palm]

Yes we said the same thing?

[short blade]

you’re saying mining needs a lower offset

which is the exact opposite of what I’m saying

[zenith palm]

Sorry i phrased that poorly

But yeah i get what you mean

[short blade]

so that guy could prob run +2150 at least in gaming on those 3080s

[kind walrus]

Imagine running more than the afterburner limit

[zenith palm]

That would be a massive golden sample moment

[kind walrus]

More like an rdna 2 moment

Just dial the vram like that heh

[pallid nest]

Do I OC my gpu for more fps jk

I do find it a little sad only get 60FPS in msfs without there "frame gen" technology

[ancient bridge]

like I said its the game

not your 4080

lmao

[restive sequoia]

anyone got any 6650xt score to compare to this

[sudden torrent]

Average score on the 3dmark site for the 6650 XT is 4657

[proven canopy]

port royal heavily favors nvidia

[sudden torrent]

Even 20 series yeah

[pallid nest]

seems like everything favors nvidia

[sudden torrent]

Benchmarks maybe

Games it's mixed

[pallid nest]

time to make some benchmarks

[sudden torrent]

That's an easy enough thing to do tbh. How good are you at coding and game engine dev?

All you have to do is pick an engine that favors AMD and write a scene script. Oh and 3D model everything.

[pallid nest]

see easy

[proven canopy]

Just some benchmarks. 6900xt was great at TS/FS

[scenic vine]

Actually, it favors Intel

[eternal relic]

a770 stay winning

[scenic vine]

Ralix beat my PR score

[jovial bluff]

Any idea where I would turn XMP@on

[sudden torrent]

"load xmp setting"
Select profile 1

[jovial bluff]

The left side

Doesn’t change though

And when I save and go to task manager

It’s not enabled

[potent fiber]

try cpu-z? Hmm, go back in bios and double check. Odd, that last pic seems fine.

[potent fiber]

'idk. if there is a profile 2, try that (in bios).

[jovial bluff]

Yea that’s what I clicked

[eternal relic]

i have a750

idek how to oc it tbh

i have put it on bench since i got it and backplate melted off

[scenic vine]

Me too

[eternal relic]

oh

ive only ran superpos

[scenic vine]

I've gotten 8676 in superposition 1080p extreme

Didn't sub because I can probably do a little better

[jovial bane]

yep you definitely can do better

friend of mine got 10300 in 1080p

[scenic vine]

A750

1080p extreme?

[jovial bane]

ye

[scenic vine]

Are you sure

[jovial bane]

yep

[scenic vine]

Do you have any pics? Or links

He would need to be running at 3.25ghz to get that score based on my data

That's the lowest forecast I can get with my data set

[eternal relic]

https://hwbot.org/submission/5131618_ralicx_unigine_superposition___1080p_xtreme_arc_a750_7754_points?recalculate=true

stock

[eternal relic]

huh?

that is 2080ti range

and sounds very unlikely

stock is 0mhz, even hwbot knows arc dosent work

[scenic vine]

At 2400 I get slightly higher than you, probably windows

[eternal relic]

yeah, mines in a very stripped win 10

[eternal relic]

i havent reinstalled ina while tho

[scenic vine]

Frequency/score

[eternal relic]

oh and ur cpu proby helping lol

[eternal relic]

7980xe sucks for 1080p benches

[scenic vine]

Nah it's a 9600k

[eternal relic]

oh

[scenic vine]

I have a 13600k but no board

[eternal relic]

sadge

[inland bloom]

What does overclocking do?

[barren ridge]

Gives you more performance

It's complicated but that's basically what overclocking is

Running above factory speed in a goal of achieving extra performance, or in the form of benchmark scores if you're getting into competitive overclocking

[proven canopy]

Our boy ggood on the front page

[short blade]

they grow up so fast

[jovial bluff]

Anyone know how I OC my brothers ram I put it on XMP 2 and it doesn’t chnage

[restive sequoia]

B460?

[zenith palm]

Check with hwinfo64 sometimes task manager can read things wrong

[potent fiber]

Pretty sure they showed cpuz ram tab also so we just gotta wait to hear if it's like what Safi asked.

[sudden torrent]

I think it was a 12700kf

So not B460

Idk he's also said his brother's computer is a prebuilt

[jovial bluff]

HWinfo says same thing

[potent fiber]

Gonna mention mobo. Oh wait, do any bios updates yet? Not a bad idea. Hit optimized defaults for bios before and after then set xmp. Idk, kinda stumped now

[proven canopy]

top 10 soon ™️

[eternal relic]

i will help and contribute my epic 7 points a month to the team

[uneven flax]

I'll contribute many boints when I decide to finally bench

[eternal relic]

so never?

[digital dirge]

Which is better? 4000 with loose timings or 3800 with tight timings?

[sudden torrent]

It depends on the bench and the processor

[scenic vine]

What's the difference in timings

[digital dirge]

I see. Ballistix 2x16 rev e. 12600k. Tomahawk z690 ddr4. I can do 4000c16, but it seems it doesn't like tight timings.

[scenic vine]

If it's the difference between fully tuned and auto subs, fully tuned is better

[digital dirge]

I was thinking 3800 might allow me to tighten em much more.

[scenic vine]

Cant you do something between 3800-4000?

Test and find out

[digital dirge]

I'm not sure tbh. I dont know how to oc ram very well.

[scenic vine]

The guide is very helpful

[potent fiber]

You in gear 1 at 4000? If not, definitely go to 3800ish.

[scenic vine]

If you can tighten tRRDs/tFAW, tREFI and the terts

[scenic vine]

Sounds like gear 1 since it's more difficult to stabilize

That tends to happen when imc limited

[digital dirge]

Yes.

[scenic vine]

What bin revE are you using?

[digital dirge]

I'm not sure what you mean

[sudden torrent]

Also are you overclocking for benchmarking or gaming?

[scenic vine]

What's the xmp

[kind walrus]

M16E brrrr

[scenic vine]

Whatever the kit, focus on the important subs before primaries

[sudden torrent]

Ew 3200 16-18-18 bin

[digital dirge]

Gaming. I don't really do benchmarking.

[kind walrus]

Single sided rev e brrr

[scenic vine]

His kit isn't single rank

[kind walrus]

Isn't binning non existent on micron ballistonks?

[scenic vine]

tRCD binning is a big factor for xmp bins

[kind walrus]

Wait am I making that mistake again

[scenic vine]

Also tCL/vdd scaling

[scenic vine]

Yeah on micron it's a bit weird, the number = number of chips

[kind walrus]

I'm making that mistake again dammit

[scenic vine]

So M16E is 16 revE ICs

[kind walrus]

Ok dual sided rev e

[sudden torrent]

Looks like one of their last batches if I'm reading that right, June 2022, so it'll be a grab bag probably

[kind walrus]

[potent fiber]

3000c15 kit can generally do similar speeds, yes (but it's often single rank).

[digital dirge]

I bought it in Jan of 2022

[kind walrus]

I've heard 3200's clocking as good as max kits before

That was a long time ago tho

[scenic vine]

Clocking doesn't matter much

[kind walrus]

[scenic vine]

tRCD varies a ton, and volt scaling can be wild with tCL

[potent fiber]

5100c19 kit is just an easier starting point for high speed. Here's mine btw. I need to hurry up & get a mobo+cpu for it.

[digital dirge]

Noice

[scenic vine]

I'm somewhat surprised that both of microns ddr5 ICs are hot garbage

[kind walrus]

There's two now???

[scenic vine]

Rev A and Rev G

[kind walrus]

God didn't even blip on my radar

[scenic vine]

Not any good so doesn't matter

It does like 6000 tRCD 43

[humble jay]

i have skill issue

how do i make ddr5-8800 stable

[scenic vine]

Apex machine broke?

[digital dirge]

Same

[sudden torrent]

Z690 or Z790?

[kind walrus]

Whip out the z790i edge

[humble jay]

maybe its cuz i reused paste swapping boards

i got into windows once

[scenic vine]

2 CPUs 1 spread

Serby when we capmodding Arc

[humble jay]

when undeadge

[scenic vine]

Still no rma?

[humble jay]

lazy

🥲

[scenic vine]

We need A770 KPE be honest

[sudden torrent]

Kingpin Intel cards would be the ultimate troll

[kind walrus]

I'd probably buy one

[humble jay]

i need lucky mode in my life

[scenic vine]

When assus send non-broken apex

[eternal relic]

ill cap modge my arc when more than 3 people subs it on hwbot

[sudden torrent]

Maybe try bclk 101.1 and 87x

[humble jay]

won't solve my issues prob, just gave up for now 😔

cuz i do actually want to run things lol

[sudden torrent]

Running things is overrated tho, infinite OC loop ftw

[kind walrus]

Sheesh

[kind walrus]

First impressions, does everything my K chip does for about 0.05V less

[sudden torrent]

Well yeah what did you expect from it? It's literally a binned 13900K

[kind walrus]

I wasn't really expecting anything tbh

I just find it funny if that's as far as I go

I think I need to drop the temp of the room to find what it likes

[kind walrus]

6.2 is running??

Dammit 6.1

[kind walrus]

6.2 runs

2 core obv

Still struggling with 5.9 8p

Don't think I'll see much more headroom unless I go direct die

Also tryna see if 4.7e runs but had no luck yet

Will see in a minute

4.7e def runs

[sudden torrent]

8ghz or bust

Damn seby, you're owning that hwbot front page. 3 of the top 10 are you and your Titan.

Including the top 2

[eternal relic]

average seby bench session

[proven canopy]

We had 7/10 top between us yesterday I think

[sudden torrent]

Really pushing for that top 10 team spot huh

[restive sequoia]

Was 5.3ghz all core ever possible for daily on a 10600k?

I don't remember it being

[sudden torrent]

Looks like 5.1 is a good spot to shoot for

Based on hwbot subs

Someone got 5.4 using a LF2 420 at 1.305v though, a little high for a daily but doable

[proven canopy]

Those are ranked by team power points, both of us have mainly been trying to improve our top 30 globals, 60 hardware for personal career rank

Getting up there

[kind walrus]

Did a lot of reading and learned I can do a fair bit more if I go for V/F and also AC/DC calibration so ima have to try again later

AC/DC calibration is new to me* and interesting

[wind prairie]

5.5ghz 1.384v 86c on 13600k sound good

5.4ghz 1.295v 78c

[uneven flax]

when z370 soc ln2 comes

or when I take the ks cold

100% doing freq valid

[eternal relic]

watch spicer lose to air cooler runs

and blame the cpu and not the brainlet ES board that has 1 bios they reused from some H310 board

[sterile ridge]

How does one overclock ddr5 ram?

I got a kit of ram that I've read everywhere has problems performing with base XMP, and the voltage needs to be upped

But I don't wanna try to do that without knowing how to do it

[sudden torrent]

For context it's expo, not xmp, and it has memory errors using the expo profile but not at jedec

[sterile ridge]

^

kit is G.Skill Flare X5 Series AMD EXPO 32GB 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 F5-6000J

[kind walrus]

Ah, probably your infinity fabric having a hard time running

I hear 5600 is pretty normal, 6000 is lucky and 6200+ is godly

Nothing like turning it on and trying your luck to see if it works

[sterile ridge]

Yeah, I just don't understand in my bios how to overclock it

I’ve read on almost every review for my kit that once voltage is adjusted to 1.36 XMP/expo works perfectly

But my bios has all these voltage settings

And idk which to try 😭😭😭

[kind walrus]

1.36?

Just dram voltage?

Does it say which voltage or...?

[sterile ridge]

I’m assuming ram voltage?

[kind walrus]

I meant in the articles

[sterile ridge]

The reviews are pretty unhelpful lol, they just say “Bumped up the voltage to 1.355 and was able to run benchmarks and windows memory diagnostic with no errors”

[kind walrus]

Sadge

They probably mean just dram

So that would be setting vdd a0 voltage to 1.355

[sterile ridge]

Set all 3 ones to 1.355?

One at the bottom is at 1.8 idk why lol

[kind walrus]

Eh no

Vdd a0

Only vdd a0

Reviews are also very vague idk how effective that would be tbh

[sterile ridge]

All 3 are vdd a0 😭

Vdd mode?

[kind walrus]

Not vpp a0