#overclocking

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sudden torrent
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Nah fast boot memory is fine, that just skips retraining on every post

jovial bluff
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Ohh okay

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Boom

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What does that do?

sudden torrent
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It's complicated but basically it tells the memory controller it can issue commands every cycle instead of every even cycle

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That's an extreme oversimplification

jovial bluff
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Is that better for me?

sudden torrent
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It makes the memory more efficient

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CR 2 is good for when you're running extremely high frequencies, which Intel considers 3600 to be but it's really not

jovial bluff
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I have a 240hz 2k montior with amd on… and my apex is called af 165? I don’t got VSYNC on though

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Free sync I do

sudden torrent
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I think there was an in game settings cap, or maybe some global setting cap

jovial bluff
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Capped*

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Yea that’s VSYNC but that’s off

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But when I enable it it goes to 240 xD wth

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I’ll let@you know more in the morning I’m gonna sleep thx for helping me out

sudden torrent
jovial bluff
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Ooh

potent fiber
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Yea Apex commonly had a builtin cap of either 140ish or 170ish. I removed it then use* afterburner just for a system wide "global" cap, mainly for no coil whine during load screens or benchmarks.

jovial bluff
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Oo okay

jovial bluff
potent fiber
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Ya. Cap I mention is specifically Fal's pic & I did exactly what it shows. Pepe_cheers

eternal relic
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i just run uncapped, my fans drown out my coil whine anyway peebo

eternal relic
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rip, got 1 stock run in with this gtx 260 and mem died

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was one of the better 260 pcb's too tantrum

sudden torrent
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Wow you got the full on Matrix digital rain

eternal relic
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was actually having fun 3d benching for first time in ages too

restive sequoia
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The 4090 scores in 3d are satisfying if you compare to 3090ti

short blade
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i need to try tuning my one working stick of timetec hynix rejects

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it's rated for 2666 jedec

scenic vine
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Timetec H4A is pretty funny

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1.8vdd goes brrr

short blade
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i have no idea what IC it is

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it's definitely not 4 gigabit though

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16gb DR modules

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so i guess they are 8 gigabit ICs

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i want to see if i can get the nonworking one to work with a bump to voltage or some timing

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two modules from the same kit

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one of them is stable at the rated 2666 jedec, one of them is unstable at 2133 jedec downbin and 2666 jedec

wheat lintel
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This makes me sad, this 2080 super can only handle about +100 to core clocks ssadge

zenith palm
wheat lintel
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Hmm didn’t think of that

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Does the AIB of the vBIOS matter?

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I’m guessing not

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Also this card has 1 8 pin and 1 6 pin if that affects anything

zenith palm
wheat lintel
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I found the gigabyte 2080 super gaming OC, has the 6 pin and 8 pin. 3 DPs and 1HDMI like my card but it also has a USB C output that my card doesn’t have

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Will there be any problems if I flash the vBIOS from it?

zenith palm
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there shouldnt

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also most cards have 2 bios's now so flashing isnt a concern if thats the case

wheat lintel
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I doubt this one has 2 bios’s

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I have the iGPU anyway if I screw this up somehow tho

wheat lintel
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The new vBIOS brought my time spy graphics score down by 1k with the same afterburner settings as the stock vBIOS

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Bruh

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Weird average core clock frequency dropped with the new vBIOS

wheat lintel
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Looks like I’m going back to the stock vbios, might have more power with this one but I can’t get above +50 on core with it now

zenith palm
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Weird you sure it was also a 6+8 pin card?

wheat lintel
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Yeah it was the Gigabyte Gaming OC 2080 super

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Techpowerup said it was 6+8

sterile flame
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Got my rx 6800 to perform better than the average 6800 XT as per Time Spy's average score. Needs better cooling to make the boost algo happy enough to keep its boost higher for longer, but meh. I've got an NZXT G12 I plan on modding arriving soon because I can't be asked to spend a bunch of money on a custom loop

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/33719537

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Also my FCLK clock is trash. For whatever reason the card can't do above 1850 FCLK anymore, despite happily benching and gaming at 2100 a week ago. Bit of a shame, as the clocks were actually helping

Also also, CPU score is pretty trash because I didn't bother tuning it. I only cared about GPU score

faint tangle
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Are you the dude from the salad discord server

sterile flame
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Oh hey there! Long time no see lol

sterile flame
faint tangle
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Lol hi

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Def been quite a while

sterile flame
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Hi! How are you???

faint tangle
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I'm good, yourself?

sterile flame
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Doing great! Glad to hear it ❤️

zenith palm
sudden torrent
sterile flame
sudden torrent
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The scores themselves can be compared, but not things like clock frequencies

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And that 3090 was garbage tier

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But it was still a 3090

sterile flame
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Interesting. I guess that's fair, but given in games the 6800 xt is slower than a 3090 on average, I'd assume that Radeon merely overperforms in this bench

sudden torrent
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Yeah my current 3080 ti is still a little above your score at stock I think. Hang on I'll re-run it.

sterile flame
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Thanks, I appreciate it

sudden torrent
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Yeah 19652 GPU score at stock

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So you're nearly at the performance level of a 3080 ti

wheat lintel
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That still wouldn’t explain the graphics score going down by 500

sudden torrent
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Yeah true

wheat lintel
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Only thing I was thinking is it thermal throttling but checking temps it’s only at around 60ish

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I’m going to try a different vBIOS

sterile flame
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Thanks, I appreciate the double checking ❤️

potent fiber
proven canopy
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Should be able to do 2500mhz+

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Much more on water

sterile flame
# proven canopy You can hit 21k+ with mpt and overdriven

It's a non XT, it caps at 2600mhz. They straight up don't hit 21k graphics score lol. I've got the slider maxed out and I am using MPT. The core boost algo needs water cooling to get closer to that 2600mhz ceiling, but until I get around to modding my G12 I'm happy with where I'm at

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The highest graphics score on Timespy for a 6800 non XT ever is 20239

proven canopy
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oh, yeah, that makes sense

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19k is very, very good for a 6800 ts gpu score

eternal relic
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i dont think pcie power pins matter if bios flashing, i run a 3x 8pin hof xoc bios on my ref card

sterile flame
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Once I get it on water I'll see about cranking SOC voltage and see if I can get my higher FCLK clock back, and maybe see about bumping up the IMC clock too. Atm my FCLK is neutered, and the IMC can't handle any overclocks. So I think I'm fairly close to maxed out on air

proven canopy
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What are your mpt settings?

sterile flame
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On mobile atm so I can't check, but as far as things I remember changing, FCLK 1850 min/max, vcore 1081mv min/max, 400w PL, 400 amp gfx current limit, iirc I set SOC to 60 amp current limit, and I upped two of the minor clocks up my 20mhz (I don't recall which two)

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The card doesn't boost higher with more core voltage, so I'm 90% sure it's a temperature thing. So I'm expecting some minor gains once I get that G12 up and running

proven canopy
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Negative scaling from just setting pl to 999?

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Yeah, hotspot is rough on big navi

sterile flame
proven canopy
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I know a few who had great results with lm

sterile flame
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Already rocking it, but I've got a ref cooler so there's a bit of an issue there lol

proven canopy
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Beating millosh is an accomplishment

sterile flame
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My IMC has died since then, so there is 0 chance I can pull that off again lol

proven canopy
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Yeah, ddr4 itself gets hardware points for how it scores against other ddr4. Though, djr on rocket lake is usually the meta

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I think there are one or two top 10's with rev.n on amd

sterile flame
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Neat. My IMC is decaying and has decayed quite notably, so no way I get higher than that on this current chip, but I'll see if I can dig up that screenshot

proven canopy
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Intel doesn't like rev e/b/n ime, I got 5166 to windows on a 10900k

sterile flame
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Nice! I didn't bother trying past 5000, although I regret it now

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I paid extra for one of the best bins then didn't bother to push past what 3200mbps Ballistix can do on a good day

proven canopy
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If you want to go for mem freq on micron ddr4, you want an am4 apu

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Idk why intel doesn't play well with micron ddr4

sterile flame
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I've got a 5800x, but I bought it used and its IMC is trash and also is getting more trash with time

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My 3700x was significantly better, but I sold it

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That ship has sailed unfortunately

proven canopy
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Just keep soc under 1.2 ambient lol

sterile flame
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I've tried it, it still sucks

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Pushing my current 3733 settings is getting to be mildly annoying

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At this point I'm hoping that it'll fail to run jedec 3200 so that I can RMA it before my warranty expires kekw

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In other news, I get a 403 error when registering for hwbot

wheat lintel
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Okay now I’m just stumped, I reflashed my 2080s’s vBIOS back to stock and I’m back to doing +100 on core +800 on mem

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Graphics score magically went up 12274

proven canopy
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Same average clocks as reported in 3dmark?

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Same driver and nvcp settings?

wheat lintel
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Yep

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Same everything

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Except now my CPU score is at ~9k when doing 5.1gHz

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Why am I having so many problems with this PC

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CPU score original was 11k now it’s down to 8k and the CPU isn’t throttling

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I slightly tuned my ram from 3200CL22-22-22 to 3200 16-18-18-38 maybe that’ll help with things

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Brought voltage up to 1.35v

proven canopy
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Should help for TS CPU score

wheat lintel
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Also brought my iGPU back to being disabled when dGPU is installed

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Honestly so far I’m liking the gigabyte bios

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…I think I know what’s happening

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The iGPU was falsely boosting the graphics score

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I disabled it, my cpu score is back up to 12k and my GPU score is down to 10800

proven canopy
wheat lintel
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Everything is fairly straightforward with most things being just in a long list

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As much as I love the Asus bios all the different menus kinda get annoying

proven canopy
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I'm most used to asus, but tbh I think evga has the best layout

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evga > asus > msi > giga in terms of UI

wheat lintel
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Never used an EVGA bios

eternal relic
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evga is my fav too

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evga > msi > asrock > asus > giga for me

primal cedar
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no more evga gpus

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i always wanted to get one

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guess i'll never have a chance

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at least they still make motherboards

left bladeBOT
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Ralicx#1600 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

eternal relic
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what did i even say lol

primal cedar
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no idea

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annoying bot moment

eternal relic
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anyway, i prefer supermicro bios over my gigabyte one

primal cedar
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ah yes

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aren't gigabyte bios infamous or something

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at least on the lower end boards

eternal relic
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i mean they're usable i guess but the layout is just awful

primal cedar
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yikes

sudden torrent
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Acceptable alternatives include gigaturd or gigassbite

eternal relic
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oh

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reflex i suppose

scenic vine
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That's not blocked

mental turret
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poop

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huh

eternal relic
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the poop word that starts with s and rhymes with whip

mental turret
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ship?

eternal relic
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dont let the mods see horror

kind walrus
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shipe?

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Oh no

eternal relic
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oh wait ur THAT farawaythrower, i just connected the dots

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i follow u on instagram lol

mental turret
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wow you're a genius lol

eternal relic
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my intellect has no bounds

mental turret
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indubitably 🧐

restive sequoia
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Whiplashe?

sterile flame
wheat lintel
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Nah didn’t touch subs yet

sterile flame
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subs and freq is where the performance is at. primaries do practically nothing and are kind of hell to stress test on certain ICs

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might as well tighten them to where you have them because basically every currently in production IC can hit those timings, but I wouldn't spend much time minimizing them

zenith palm
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Should definitely work on a good few of the secondaries first yeah, I'd recommend going in order of the ddr4 guide in the pins

sterile flame
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some extra freq wouldn't hurt either, but it depends on the IC. i wouldn't blame you for leaving it at 3200 if it's C die or something

faint tangle
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Considering it's a 3200 jedec kit I'd assume it's c die or similar

sterile flame
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you can get lucky with those OEM sticks sometimes. or just not be entirely out of luck with something like D die. still trash, but sooooo much better than C

zenith palm
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Possibly crappy hynix too

sterile flame
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^

zenith palm
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C die can usually do 3600c18 tbf

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Not great but

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Better than 3200

sterile flame
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true, but have you ever tried tuning subs on C die? it is hell lol

zenith palm
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Yep

sterile flame
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admittedly the extra freq will help either way, but man is C die a pain

zenith palm
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I agree

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Not scaling over 1.35v sucks

faint tangle
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Pato look at peripherals chat lmao

left bladeBOT
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Happy Pill#9683 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

faint tangle
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F

sterile flame
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oh is that not allowed?

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my bad lol

faint tangle
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Yeah for the most part curse words are not allowed

sterile flame
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noted 👍

faint tangle
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Not a big deal, even if the bot kicks you you can just join back

sterile flame
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anyway, I managed to get a kit of C die that scaled to 1.37 and could post 4000mbps semi stable, because ofc I get a golden sample C die, but garbage bin of CJR for my daily kit PepeRealizes

faint tangle
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I still haven't oced my Rev e :p

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I just got a 13600k a few weeks ago, over my winter break whenever I find the motivation I think I'll oc it and the cpu

sterile flame
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if you ever get bored just go for 5000mbps freq validation, it's fun and even trash bins can hit it

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way easier than actual tuning, because timings are totally irrelevant for it lol

zenith palm
faint tangle
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Dudes just... interesting

zenith palm
sterile flame
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trash IC moment :(

faint tangle
zenith palm
faint tangle
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Cpu ocing will also be new to me

sterile flame
faint tangle
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Not a clue

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I know non k skus had issues over 3200 sometimes

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Even just 3600

zenith palm
faint tangle
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My friends 12600k did 4000mhz

sterile flame
sterile flame
faint tangle
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I wonder what the difference between a 13600k with 4000c16 vs 4800c40 would be

zenith palm
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Hmm actually lemme check hwbot for it

sterile flame
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yeh, DDR5 on ADL was kind of... ehhhh

sterile flame
zenith palm
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Yeah 4800mhz and bad board and i didn't wanna bork bros imc with too much voltage so

sterile flame
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makes sense. I got 5000mbps working on my b550, but didn't try for higher unfortunately

zenith palm
sterile flame
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damn, it was that bad?

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yikes

zenith palm
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Yeah gear 2 3600 on a lot of non k models

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Something to do with the vscca voltage i think

faint tangle
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Some cpus could do 3600 in g1

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Just wasn't guaranteed

sterile flame
faint tangle
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I think kenzies (person in this server) 12100f did 3600

zenith palm
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Z690 a pro has no problems with 3600g1 at least in manual but that kinda ruins the point of going non k

sterile flame
faint tangle
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Oh happy Pill, my z690a pro automatically was feeding my 13600k 1.48v

sterile flame
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under load???

faint tangle
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Was wondering why it was hitting 100c in r23 multi core

sterile flame
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oh goodness lol

faint tangle
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We thought there was an issue with my mount or the pump

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Felix and sips (two other people here) figured it out and I set the voltage to 1.32

sterile flame
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no, just motherboard manufacturers being incompetent-
many such cases unfortunately lol

wheat lintel
faint tangle
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I'm curious how much ocing headroom I'll have though, I still get 80c under multi core loads with a 280mm clc

zenith palm
faint tangle
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Idts

sterile flame
faint tangle
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Whatever bios were out about a month ago

zenith palm
wheat lintel
zenith palm
wheat lintel
zenith palm
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Lol

wheat lintel
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And I was in the bios already soooo

zenith palm
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Rev e is fun

sterile flame
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anta555 extreme ftw

wheat lintel
zenith palm
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Cuz the default sucks

scenic vine
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difference between ADL and RPL with SR d5 is ~600mt

wheat lintel
sterile flame
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that's fair, ig you can't expect much out of current samsung and micron ICs atm

zenith palm
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Samsung caps at like 6200 manual anyway

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But you can drive down the timings if you're lucky

scenic vine
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guess they were sponsored or something

sterile flame
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afaik a fair bit of that is down to motherboards being weird. pushing it to 6600 or so is doable just fairly painful and time consuming. could be wrong, I haven't paid a ton of attention to DDR5

sterile flame
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odd, they're usually good about that stuff

faint tangle
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If I hadn't gotten my mobo so cheap I think I mightve gone d5 looking at current pricing

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$145 for a 6000c38 32gb kit

sterile flame
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$160 M die is looking nice

faint tangle
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$127 for my mobo though

sterile flame
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what board is that?

faint tangle
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Msi z690 a pro

scenic vine
sterile flame
faint tangle
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Yeah, amazon warehouse

sterile flame
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i might be the slightest bit jealous :p

faint tangle
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lol

sterile flame
faint tangle
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Let me make a pcpartpicker list of my current build

scenic vine
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Interestingly, with my z690 board and old m-die, 13600k did post higher freq

faint tangle
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We don't talk about the gpu price

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Crappy pre built fun

sterile flame
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nice build 👍

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did you replace the fans on the CLC by chance?

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I couldn't stand them on my 360

faint tangle
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Not yet, I have the fans to replace them with though

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White p14s

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They really are loud asf

sterile flame
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sweet, I went for black p12's
great minds think alike ;)

faint tangle
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Only reason I went with white is bc of the case

eternal relic
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6600 is pretty low for a die afaik?

sterile flame
faint tangle
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You'd probably cry if you saw the cable management though

eternal relic
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oh my chat didnt update, fun

sterile flame
faint tangle
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Lmaoo

eternal relic
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no case is best case

faint tangle
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This is old, it's a bit better now

sterile flame
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so not an option unfortunately

faint tangle
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Red lights are from when I was failing to flash bios properly lol

eternal relic
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sadge

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test bench for a daily lol

sterile flame
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love it

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I miss my old test bench

eternal relic
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i need to buy another, so i can actually have a test bench for cold benching stuff

sterile flame
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my 3070 ti was so happy to have constant fresh air. moving to a case shaved off around 200mbps from its max mem clock

eternal relic
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oof

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g6x moment

sterile flame
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yeh lol, that stuff is ungodly temp dependent

faint tangle
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Were you the person who did like +1500 on your mem or smthn crazy like that stable?

sterile flame
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it was still pulling +2100/23.7gbps tho

faint tangle
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Gah damn

eternal relic
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ecc?

sterile flame
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I could do 2225 on the test bench before losing performance from ecc hitting with higher temps in the case. I managed to walk it back up to 2100 in case before I sold

sterile flame
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I was pulling close to 88mh/s on it kek

eternal relic
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very nice

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my 2080ti has a really really nice core, below average mem tho

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benches 2205mhz ambient water, 2345mhz cold

sterile flame
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3070 ti was the opposite which kinda sucks for a product with entirely too much mem bandwidth at stock lol

eternal relic
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heh

faint tangle
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My 3060 ti does +1100 +210 in timespy

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Could do I think 1500 for mining eth

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With 55% pl and -512 core

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Iirc anyways

eternal relic
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fun bench

sterile flame
sterile flame
faint tangle
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Ocing the 6800xt was annoying for me, and it had issues with the game that I play most often

sterile flame
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that's right, I forgot about the original 60 ti

faint tangle
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That game being valorant

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Static would randomly flash across the screen and the game would freeze for a few seconds

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Was perfectly fine in other games though

sterile flame
faint tangle
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Even with the minimal tuning I did tho, it beat the best 3080 10gb on timespy

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And was within top 1% of 3080 tis

sterile flame
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I'm beating 3080 10GB's on my 6800, about 2.5% below a ti with my better scores
MPT rocks

faint tangle
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I got I think 20500 something

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Which was just undervolt and memory oc

sterile flame
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nice, I'm rocking 19260 or thereabout iirc

faint tangle
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Nice

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What's that compared to other 6800s on timespy?

sterile flame
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average score is just under 16000 kekw

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I'm ahead of the average 6800 xt score by about 2% last I checked

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so super happy with that

faint tangle
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Gah damn

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My 3060 ti would be top 100 if my systeminfo hadn't been out of date

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Managed to get 13000 something but it isn't a valid result

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And haven't been able to repeat it

sterile flame
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nvm, looks like I'm only ahead by 0.4% now lol. either way I'm happy with my 6800 "xt"

faint tangle
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If I do my tuning over my break I'm hoping I can hit it again

sterile flame
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best of luck ❤️
may your temps be low and your clocks be high 🫡

faint tangle
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lol

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Whenever I bench I put a whole ass fan in front of my pc

restive sequoia
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Well that seems like a massive downgrade to me

faint tangle
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Helps more than you'd think, especially since my rad is front mounted. I get around 6c lower cpu Temps in r23

sterile flame
faint tangle
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Idts

sterile flame
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let me pull up a pic really quicklu

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it's the most scuffed thing ever lol

faint tangle
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I'm about to be driving so gtg for now

sterile flame
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here we go

faint tangle
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LMAO

sterile flame
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came with a goofy flower style heatsink that ran the core at >95C with max fan speed, sooooo

faint tangle
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I love that

sterile flame
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clc360 was the way

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lol

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I'll have to find images of the completed form

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it gets worse believe it or not lol

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Casual 80mm fan zip tied to the end

mental turret
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Baller

zenith palm
zenith palm
eternal relic
sterile flame
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Was lent to me so I didn't bother with any hardmods, just temporarily keeping it from cooking itself

faint tangle
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Going to put it in when I put the replacement fans for the clc in over my break

zenith palm
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You not on break yet?

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Weird

faint tangle
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Yeah my school gives us a single week for break

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Very fun

scenic vine
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You guys get breaks

zenith palm
faint tangle
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Wat

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Crime?

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Just annoying since literally everyone I know that goes to a different school has a week and a half off

jovial bluff
# jovial bluff

Because it's unlikely to be a strong memory IC, dual rank is harder to run 1T, and especially so on Intel motherboards

sudden torrent
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Ok, but if it's working then there's no reason not to run 1T

jovial bluff
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Very true

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How do I find out if it’s stable

sudden torrent
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You can run a quick memory test, or just play your usual games. If you don't get blue screens or crashes then it's stable.

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OCCT is fine for a quick test

zenith palm
faint tangle
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Apology not accepted

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Can't believe you pato

zenith palm
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Also schools here get like 2.5ish weeks i think

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Sorry bsod

scenic vine
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You gotta be careful with it

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So yeah, run tm5, also run occt

sudden torrent
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Command rate issues would show fairly quickly in any real test

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Or at least within the 1hr limit of the free version OCCT

mental turret
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I have too much garbo ddr3 that cant do 1T

jovial bluff
zenith palm
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Tm5 extreme1 anta77 ye

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Then possibly occt if you want better stability

scenic vine
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Or you're on a begger platform

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On my ivy system everything did 1t

mental turret
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it depends on the ram lol...

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I also own very good ddr3

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these are my most disappointing dimms

jovial bluff
jovial bluff
sudden torrent
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That's the default profile

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Hit load profile and select the anta extreme profile

jovial bluff
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also

sudden torrent
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first one

jovial bluff
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I think my amd software is crashing like my oc (i only have my fans oc) is bc my ram is on 1t

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i dont think it crashed on 2t

jovial bluff
sudden torrent
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Yep. Reopen it.

jovial bluff
#

alright done

sudden torrent
#

It'll automatically go through the test cycles now. It'll tell you if there's an error.

jovial bluff
#

how long does it ususally take

sudden torrent
#

It depends on your memory. The full series of tests can take 4-12 hours.

jovial bluff
#

bruh

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i dont got time for that

sudden torrent
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If it hasn't errored in an hour or two then you should be ok

jovial bluff
#

oh ight

proven canopy
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Might as well run the overnight overnight at some point

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Unless you don't sleep, ever

jovial bluff
#

I think my amd software is crashing like my oc (i only have my fans oc) is bc my ram is on 1t
i dont think it crashed on 2t

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it might error bc of this

jovial bluff
jovial bluff
#

Is there something special I do or can I Jsut close out of the test and clicking x

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?

sudden torrent
#

You can just close it

jovial bluff
#

Alright snd what do I set this back to

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Auto or 2n

sudden torrent
#

Either gets the same result

jovial bluff
#

U sure?

#

People are saying auto

sudden torrent
#

Auto is fine but it'll end up the same either way

jovial bluff
#

Does auto mean it’s on 2n? Or

sudden torrent
#

Auto means let the memory controller and motherboard pick

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Which in this case it'll very likely pick 2N

jovial bluff
#

So i should put it on 2n to be safe

sudden torrent
#

You can

jovial bluff
#

but..?

sudden torrent
#

There's no but

jovial bluff
#

oh

eternal relic
scenic vine
#

I'm pretty lucky with mine

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I ran quad rank nyanyan b-die at 2000

sudden torrent
#

I'm rather excited for the set of b-die I'm getting to add to my current one. Think I can get 3800c14 stable with 4 slots filled?

sudden torrent
#

A 2x8gb kit from rommy

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Didn't ask for specific model number, but it's b-die and not corsair so good enough for me

mental turret
#

oh that one

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did she send you pictures of the dimms?

sudden torrent
#

No but I trust her

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But if I'm suddenly banned from the server you know why 💀

mental turret
#

nah i just ask because im curious to see the label and whatnot

sudden torrent
#

Well it'

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... I always do that when I go to hit '

mental turret
#

i do that sometimes too lol it's annoying

sudden torrent
#

It's already past the expected delivery day and still "moving through the network" so I'm even more anxious

mental turret
#

holiday shipping 💀

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all the gifts i bought for people are gonna arrive super late lol

sudden torrent
#

Yup I remember having to sort all those pallets upon pallets of packages...

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I always buy local if I can these days, Amazon can suck it

mental turret
#

same, but my city sucks for tech

sudden torrent
#

You know what's faster than 2 day shipping? A similar item at a local business that's only 10-20% more expensive

mental turret
#

you know what's faster than shipping?

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flying kappa

sudden torrent
#

Zen 3

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5800X

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I can already do 1900 fclk stable, 2000 if I ignore WHEAs

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btw @celest notch there's been some curiosity about those sticks, namely the stickers on them

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Yes you're saving me from the despair of games literally crashing because they suck at managing memory and keep reserving 2-3x what they really need

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Witcher was the tipping point, even with my page file set to 8GB it crashes at 100% virtual memory usage

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I'll just look at his hwbot subs kekw

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They're not the royals right?

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Cause he has subs with royals lol

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T-Force?

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No wait that's 32gb

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Why does he have so many kits lmao

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But dang he got 3800c12 with just a fan over them

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Oh is it the Viper kit maybe?

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4800 16-18-18-28

mental turret
#

even decent a0 can do 4000C14

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lol that too

sudden torrent
#

Better than my 4133 19-23-23 kit then

mental turret
sudden torrent
#

And I can do 3800 14-15-13-28 on that

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So fingers crossed I don't lose too much on the primaries

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I'm sure it'll be fine but there's always a chance...

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Oh I intend to

mental turret
#

do the overclocking KPGrin

sudden torrent
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I will now that I have more banks. RAM benches here I come.

mental turret
#

lol

scenic vine
sudden torrent
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I thought as much but there's always that small chance they don't play nice even though both are the same die

scenic vine
#

You might need to loosen tRCD

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And I suggest tuning from scratch (esp voltages)

sudden torrent
#

Yep that was the plan. Gotta plan to spend 2+ days totally redoing every timing. Fun.

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At least I'll have it done in time to do more subs before the end of year

scenic vine
#

I doubt it would take that long the 2nd time around

sudden torrent
#

True I already know a rough idea of what I can do

proven canopy
sudden torrent
#

Gaddam seby calm down

proven canopy
#

We benched it together tonight, last run of our prolonged country cup benchmeet

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Makes me want to re-run the gts's, had to end that session early at only 1.35v, I think they have a lot more in the tank

sudden torrent
#

Very nice

proven canopy
#

GTX's are up next

sudden torrent
#

I'll get some subs in once I get the new ram kit

proven canopy
#

Main thing we're missing rn is 6000 series crossfire

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Or fm2+ on a crossblade ranger, but I'm giving that a try soon

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ideally we'd run

sudden torrent
#

I've got a Phenom II x4 if that helps at all, the board might still work

proven canopy
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Which one? Those are fun on ln2, but not really otherwise

sudden torrent
#

980 iirc

proven canopy
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For the 3dm05 stage, we're restricted to am3/am3+ cpu only, 3000 series amd gpu. Wondering if phenom thuban/deneb vs fx at one core per module would be best

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There's no cpu test in 05, but it'll help graphics score for those cards

sudden torrent
#

I've got a FX 8300 too in that case

proven canopy
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980 would've been meta for this year's team cup, can do 6g+ on ln2

sudden torrent
#

I got that 8300 to 5GHz on air amongusparty

proven canopy
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For fx, would need a board that can run the chip 1 core per module, but also ln2 on cpu lol

sudden torrent
#

If it works still after I flexed it a bit I have a MSI gaming 970

sudden torrent
kind walrus
#

Ok here we go, 4090 on water, idling 18C with the AC blasting

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Right in it's face

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19690 TSE first run, I'm 10 points off my pb

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GPU a little slower, CPU a little faster

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GPU running 3105 tho again

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Memory not as happy tho running this cold

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19686

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What I do like is not having to wait 5 minutes to cool the card between runs

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30 seconds and the systems back to 18C lololol

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If I even match my PB I'm more than happy tbh

dull ginkgo
#

It's going to give you like 19699 just because you say that lol

kind walrus
#

IT GAVE ME 19698 COS YOU SAID THAT

faint tangle
#

Felix you've given me motivation for no reason at all, when I get home ima do some timespy, finally install my new fans for my aio, and my ssd

kind walrus
#

Reeee

faint tangle
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Well fight for best score

kind walrus
#

Mountain Dew it

faint tangle
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I'll win fs

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3060 ti>4090

kind walrus
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Reeee

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I have no Ti

faint tangle
#

L tbh

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Imagine only having a 4090

kind walrus
#

I'm coping

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But not like Far and his alien tech

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His alienwares 💀 👽

faint tangle
#

4090<x79 igpus

kind walrus
#

19712

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I hit 3120

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Albeit briefly

dull ginkgo
#

Time to to beyond

kind walrus
#

I need to hit like 20K now to get top 100 again

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With a ram* tune? Eh maybe

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If I hit 20054 I match Seby

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Kekw

zenith palm
#

duh

kind walrus
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Duh

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I wish I had

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Actually legit wish I would bother with a 1080 ti founders

zenith palm
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i bet you are jealous of people with 780 ti's

kind walrus
#

19734

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Still haven't passed my graphics pb yet

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+240 simply won't run and I can't use a custom curve to edge this more (Thanks MSI it still cuts off at 3K)

zenith palm
kind walrus
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Yup

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Oh wow I'm actually close to the top 100 for 1x gpu again

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16 points off

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Trying something out

zenith palm
#

Ask kingpin to hook you up I'm sure he got a working version of precision for 40 series

faint tangle
#

One of you two still around?

kind walrus
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Hi

faint tangle
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Slightly stupid question: do I put the screws through the entire thing, or just the bottom hole

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I'm assuming just the bottom one

kind walrus
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Entire thing

zenith palm
kind walrus
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Some aio's don't screw all the way through is why

faint tangle
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Oh alr

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Glad I asked, ty

kind walrus
#

Yeah that can end in a hecker of a time

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My gpu idling 1C above ambient now

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Ok lemme try precision X1

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If it lets me do a curve I might be able to voltage lock

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Dammit voltage lock doesn't seem to work

faint tangle
#

Just almost had a heart attack

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Didn't unplug the psu since I was just changing fans, and the pc took like 5 seconds longer than normal to actually turn on

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Thought I broke something

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God that is so much quiter

kind walrus
#

Lol

faint tangle
#

Gonna see if timespy will finish with +210 and +1100

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210 was only stable like 1/5 times previously so well see ig

kind walrus
#

I wish I could manual curve

faint tangle
#

Suffering from success

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I think ima just run a bench or two, and over my break I'll do some more after ram tuning

kind walrus
#

Manual curve would def be a few more points tho

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True, I could just start ram tuning in the morning

faint tangle
#

Rn I've got like 2.5 hrs before I gotta leave and I just want to chill for a bit

kind walrus
#

But I want to see the max potential nao Heh

faint tangle
#

I dont feel like losing my mind ram tuning right before work lmao

kind walrus
#

Best for this card looks to be 3105 (+225) and +1212 mem

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I need it to be warmer to run higher mem

faint tangle
#

Interesting that's how that works

kind walrus
#

But then I think it runs slower lol

kind walrus
#

Yeah voltage locking isn't helping

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Oh well

faint tangle
#

Rip, ts crashed

kind walrus
#

Couple more runs to try for T100

faint tangle
#

Don't think I'm going to be able yo get +210 core to work again

eternal relic
#

bruh

faint tangle
#

F

eternal relic
#

why not curve? pre pasc or doodoo xoc bios?

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voltage locking u say? this is where i2c my beloved comes in

kind walrus
#

I'm not taking the card I just got working apart at 3am to volt mod without even an i2c to begin with kekw

eternal relic
#

surely 4090 has i2c lol

kind walrus
#

Also it's 4090, I can't do a curve above 3K

eternal relic
#

just gotta find the 3 pins

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oh, sadge

kind walrus
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No I don't have one

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I need an i2c

eternal relic
#

evc is cheap

kind walrus
#

I know, I haven't gone that far yet lol

eternal relic
#

putting a trimpot between refin and vref is even cheaper

kind walrus
#

I haven't even tuned the ram lol

eternal relic
#

core tuning is more fun anyway

faint tangle
#

Oop

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I'm getting artifacts in ts

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Vram oc is the unstable part I guess

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Which is weird, I never had issues with 1100

eternal relic
#

ecc?

kind walrus
#

I meant cpu ram lol

eternal relic
#

oh

kind walrus
#

Good few points in that

faint tangle
kind walrus
#

But ye, I'm sorta tied up here with what I got atm

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More tuning needed lol

eternal relic
#

im too broke to shoot for global points

faint tangle
#

Idt I can hit top 100 anymore

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100th is 13300 something

eternal relic
#

i just got a fair amount of global with 12 core by chance after 7950x came out and my old 9920x subs got boosted

faint tangle
#

If only it was a 2x8 pin 3060 ti

eternal relic
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or whatever the am5 12 core is

kind walrus
faint tangle
#

Yeah, actually

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Surprised it didn't crash

eternal relic
#

i doubt a 3060ti would benefit from a 2nd 8 pin

kind walrus
#

Dial mem back 50-100

faint tangle
#

Yeye

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Wonder if 225 on core would be stable

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Gonna try that after trying 1075 on vram

kind walrus
#

13300 might be achievable if you were 400 points off with artifacts

faint tangle
#

Highest I've gotten was 13265 iirc

kind walrus
#

Nah go 50-100 mem lower

faint tangle
#

That was on debloated fresh w10 install

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I think 1075 should be fine

eternal relic
#

ecc could be messing ur score

kind walrus
#

25 you might still be getting regression

faint tangle
#

1100 was stable for a long time, if it has artifacts again ill dial it down again

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I'll see what I get and then run one with it at 1050

eternal relic
#

higher clock on mem can mean worse perf

faint tangle
#

I know

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I never had negative scaling until above 1100 before

kind walrus
#

Maybe the pads need replacin

faint tangle
#

Possibly, but Temps are still good so idts

eternal relic
#

put a tiny bit of paste on the pads lol

faint tangle
#

58 core 70 something hotspot

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I really don't want to tempt fate by opening up my gpu, I've shaky hands and am extremely clumsy

kind walrus
#

Temps being within range on the bleeding edge can mean jack for stability

faint tangle
#

Mm

kind walrus
#

For example my 4090 core crashes 3105 at 49C exactly every time

eternal relic
#

60 in ts sounds pretty high for a 3060ti? tho im not sure how much they draw nor what cooler or case u have

kind walrus
#

My memory running some 10-15C lower gave me 200 more memory clock

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But then it seems to regress when it gets too cold

faint tangle
#

Yeah im still getting artifacts

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I'll turn down mem oc more after this

eternal relic
#

i ran out of dice before i could see cold scaling on my 2080ti mem PepeRealizes

kind walrus
#

Try 975 mem

faint tangle
#

Alr

kind walrus
#

Then go up if it's stable

faint tangle
#

The artifacts are much less severe and often than they were

#

There was a flash of rainbow static once and that's it

#

The difference in yhe cpu test between my 13600k and 3600 is hilarious

#

More than 2.5x fps

kind walrus
#

It be a gorgeous cpu

#

When you tune the cpu the GPU score may end up a tiny bit better too

#

Be it a couple points but you might want those

faint tangle
#

Gpu score is the same between 975 1000 1075 and 1100

#

Let's see what +225 core will do lol

#

99% sure it'll fail, never got it to succeed once, but 210 has been stable for the last three benches so let's see what happens

#

yeah it failed

#

ill come back to this over break, fn ima just chill

kind walrus
#

Lol

jovial bluff
#

Should i get MPT if im not gonna oc my gpu?

#

so my amd OC SETTINGS crashes every other day when i load up my pc.. i got nothing OC besides my 3600 mhz ram with xmp. and then my tuning of my gpu fans
Should i use MPT if i dont plan on oc my gpu?
If it draws more power does that mean it will run better without tweaking any of the defaults oc

jovial bluff
#

?

jovial bluff
#

any help\

mental turret
jovial bluff
#

heres my score b4 any OC

#

temps

faint tangle
#

superposition is not a good benchmark

#

use timespy

jovial bluff
#

alright

faint tangle
#

the demo is free on steam

jovial bluff
#

first one?

ancient bridge
jovial bluff
ancient bridge
#

Question

#

Do u have msi afterburner installed

#

Or similar

jovial bluff
ancient bridge
#

If u haven't already take the power limit and slide it to the max

jovial bluff
#

Should i do it on msi afterburner or mpt? or amd software

ancient bridge
#

U can also try slowly raising core and memory frequency

ancient bridge
jovial bluff
#

with mpt i can increase the max limit power usage

kind walrus
# jovial bluff any help\

You were having frametime issues when you were trying to OC before and going back to default fixed that, not sure why you want to oc again?

ancient bridge
#

Oop felix and patos here lol

kind walrus
#

It's ok Danny

zenith palm
# jovial bluff

Btw that combines cpu and gpu into one total score, just look at either the graphics or the cpu score seperately, they're to the right of that total score

jovial bluff
#

So I bought new ram

zenith palm
kind walrus
#

So it's stable even if you play with it a little bit?

jovial bluff
kind walrus
#

Ok

zenith palm
jovial bluff
#

thought so

kind walrus
#

You want to use MPT and MCT

#

Or if you aren't able to understand how MPT and MCT works, just use adrenalin

ancient bridge
#

Yea adrenaline seems to work

zenith palm
#

!bat

ancient bridge
kind walrus
#

Set max clocks, voltage up, memory up, power slider up and you want to keep testing with timespy on a loop

proven canopy
#

Why use anything but overdriven or moreclocktool for big navi?

kind walrus
#

Idk, never used overdriven lol

jovial bluff
proven canopy
jovial bluff
zenith palm
#

Fixes

jovial bluff
zenith palm
#

1

#

And then when 1 is finished do 3 and restart pc

kind walrus
jovial bluff
kind walrus
#

If it's too difficult then stick to adrenalin/wattman

#

We've tried discussing how to get you working with it before

jovial bluff
#

I only know how to up the power limit on the mpt thats the only thing iv changed on it

kind walrus
#

Well that's really half the battle

jovial bluff
#

oh

#

Have to find the link for mpt again

#

nvm got it

jovial bluff
kind walrus
#

Write sppt iirc then restart

jovial bluff
#

done

kind walrus
#

Just note whatever you set you should be mindful of your hotspot temps

#

Whether this is for benching or for daily

jovial bluff
#

yes ofc

kind walrus
#

Now you can use moreclocktool or wattman/adrenalin

jovial bluff
kind walrus
#

Adrenalin resets your power limit if you change in there

#

So remember that

#

You need to set adrenalin, then MPT then restart

jovial bluff
#

ohh

kind walrus
#

Or do MCT

jovial bluff
#

okay let me redo it hen

proven canopy
#

I think the hotspot limits are pretty conservative unless you disable throttling, then you'll just get a hard shutoff at 115c

#

Without disabling, I think it just throttles around 90c hotspot

jovial bluff
#

yea

#

Should i run a test now since i only increased pow erlimit?

kind walrus
#

When I was playing with my friend's 6900XT it still wasn't really throttling past 95C hotspot

jovial bluff
#

oh dang

kind walrus
#

We just kept 95 in mind to be safe

jovial bluff
#

yea i wil to or even 90

kind walrus
#

Up to you

jovial bluff
#

Alright what should i do now

kind walrus
#

I'd set things up with MCT

jovial bluff
#

I dont really know how to use MCT

kind walrus
#

But you could try a TS run to see if it's better

#

Ok

jovial bluff
#

yea i will

kind walrus
#

Just watch hotspot

#

If it's too hot then it's either way too much power or the card mount isn't good

#

/fans are still stock

#

Hoping you set those up to 100

jovial bluff
#

Not all of them too 100

#

Got them all to 65 when it reaches a certain temp

kind walrus
#

Ok but you did set them

#

Ok

jovial bluff
#

Should@I do all 100? Or

kind walrus
#

Depends

#

What power did you set

jovial bluff
kind walrus
jovial bluff
#

400-440

kind walrus
#

Probably fine

#

For benching you want full speed really

jovial bluff
#

instead of 420 i got 440

jovial bluff
#

so put them all to 100 for the bench marking

kind walrus
#

Ye

#

But if this is for daily you can set a fan curve it's fine

jovial bluff
jovial bluff
#

not for just benchmarking

kind walrus
#

Well don't apply the curve and try a run

jovial bluff
kind walrus
#

Don't touch adrenalin at all

#

And start time spy

jovial bluff
#

alright

kind walrus
#

Like don't even undo changes

jovial bluff
#

yea i wont

kind walrus
#

Just leave it as it'll change the sppt

jovial bluff
#

well i inreased the power limit on the aderelain and then on the mpt again and restyarted pc

#

Running the test rn

#

Uhhh

zenith palm
jovial bluff
#

Okay this is strange

#

Hotspot is going from 102 to 75 to 97

kind walrus
#

Figured as much

jovial bluff
#

84 now

#

78

#

101

#

77

kind walrus
#

Varying by workload

jovial bluff
#

Doing the graphic test 1 rn

#

109-112

kind walrus
#

Which 6900XT is this?

jovial bluff
#

Gigabyte gaming oc

zenith palm
#

That's quite high

kind walrus
#

Ok how comfortable are you taking a GPU apart

jovial bluff
#

0

zenith palm
#

What was your max normal gpu temp?

jovial bluff
#

65

zenith palm
#

Holy crap

jovial bluff
#

Oh normal?

#

Like while gaming or@idle

kind walrus
#

Just stick to adrenalin

jovial bluff
#

Iv used MPT b4 though

#

And it never reached these temps

zenith palm
kind walrus
#

Your temps are quite high

jovial bluff
#

I’m on 2k res btw

zenith palm
# jovial bluff Gigabyte gaming oc

Honestly seeing if you can tighten the 4 screws on the backplate might be enough, i had a similar hotspot issue with my 3070 gaming oc

kind walrus
#

Probably not

zenith palm
kind walrus
#

If it's stock paste it'll be dry

jovial bluff
jovial bluff
zenith palm
# kind walrus Probably not

You'd be surprised, i took apart mine, paste wasn't dry, was perfectly spread, i did repaste but pretty sure tightness was the issue

jovial bluff
kind walrus
#

Yeah just stick to adrenalin and undervolt

zenith palm
#

I would gently see if you can tighten the backplate screws

kind walrus
#

And undo your mpt settings

jovial bluff
#

i have this up

jovial bluff
kind walrus
#

You had fans maxed or fans on the curve

jovial bluff
kind walrus
#

Not for daily I don't think

jovial bluff
#

should i put them to 75 all?

kind walrus
#

Try a run with the same fan curve, no MPT

#

Just 15% in adrenalin

jovial bluff
#

alright

kind walrus
#

Undo your MPT

jovial bluff
#

how do i get rid of the mpt saves though

#

delte sppt

kind walrus
#

I can't remember 100% I believe so

jovial bluff
#

Alright I restarted the Pc

#

I’ll run spy test now

kind walrus
#

Ok

#

If during this you see your hotspot running high still then MPT won't make sense without repasting (maybe even repadding too)

#

Since you're after a daily tune

#

Undervolting is where a good chunk of the performance comes from anyway

jovial bluff
#

Well gaming tune for I can get better performance while gaming

#

Oh okay

#

What’s the highest it should go to

kind walrus
#

Can't remember

#

400?

jovial bluff
#

No I mean the hot spot

kind walrus
#

Just tell us what it gets to

#

Lol

jovial bluff
#

Highest it’s reached was 91 for a mili sec

#

Varys from 78-85

#

Not bad at all

#

Oo hits 65

kind walrus
#

That's a lot more sane

jovial bluff
#

Staying at 85-87

#

Only reached 89-91 3 times

kind walrus
#

Ok and the score?

jovial bluff
#

Isn’t finished yet

#

On last test

jovial bluff
#

Temps are good for 2k res

kind walrus
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You'll not get anything crazy good

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Ok so barely any loss for a lot less power

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Ok follow these instructions

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In adrenalin

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Set max clock to 2600

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of vram or gpu

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Drag the voltage slider all the way up

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Then go to vram

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this is max voltage

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It's not

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All of my reference big navi cards had graphite

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They won't open it

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So we are staying away from extra power lol

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Honestly didn't see much of a difference swapping to mx-5 or kpx, which probably pumps out quickly anyway

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^

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Vram set fast timing then try somewhere in the range of like, 2250 to 2300

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2200 was the best last time i OC but thats when i didnt know my ram was bad