#overclocking
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It's complicated but basically it tells the memory controller it can issue commands every cycle instead of every even cycle
That's an extreme oversimplification
Is that better for me?
It makes the memory more efficient
CR 2 is good for when you're running extremely high frequencies, which Intel considers 3600 to be but it's really not
I have a 240hz 2k montior with amd on… and my apex is called af 165? I don’t got VSYNC on though
Free sync I do
I think there was an in game settings cap, or maybe some global setting cap
Capped*
Yea that’s VSYNC but that’s off
But when I enable it it goes to 240 xD wth
I’ll let@you know more in the morning I’m gonna sleep thx for helping me out
Ooh
Yea Apex commonly had a builtin cap of either 140ish or 170ish. I removed it then use* afterburner just for a system wide "global" cap, mainly for no coil whine during load screens or benchmarks.
Oo okay
I think there’s a certain setting for apex though bc the launching is bad itself
Ya. Cap I mention is specifically Fal's pic & I did exactly what it shows. 
i just run uncapped, my fans drown out my coil whine anyway 
rip, got 1 stock run in with this gtx 260 and mem died
was one of the better 260 pcb's too 
Wow you got the full on Matrix digital rain
The 4090 scores in 3d are satisfying if you compare to 3090ti
i need to try tuning my one working stick of timetec hynix rejects
it's rated for 2666 jedec
i have no idea what IC it is
it's definitely not 4 gigabit though
16gb DR modules
so i guess they are 8 gigabit ICs
i want to see if i can get the nonworking one to work with a bump to voltage or some timing
two modules from the same kit
one of them is stable at the rated 2666 jedec, one of them is unstable at 2133 jedec downbin and 2666 jedec
This makes me sad, this 2080 super can only handle about +100 to core clocks 
Tried flashing a bios that allows higher wattages?
Hmm didn’t think of that
Does the AIB of the vBIOS matter?
I’m guessing not
Also this card has 1 8 pin and 1 6 pin if that affects anything
As long as it has a 6 pin and 8 pin and similar video out
I found the gigabyte 2080 super gaming OC, has the 6 pin and 8 pin. 3 DPs and 1HDMI like my card but it also has a USB C output that my card doesn’t have
Will there be any problems if I flash the vBIOS from it?
there shouldnt
also most cards have 2 bios's now so flashing isnt a concern if thats the case
I doubt this one has 2 bios’s
I have the iGPU anyway if I screw this up somehow tho
The new vBIOS brought my time spy graphics score down by 1k with the same afterburner settings as the stock vBIOS
Bruh
Weird average core clock frequency dropped with the new vBIOS
Looks like I’m going back to the stock vbios, might have more power with this one but I can’t get above +50 on core with it now
Weird you sure it was also a 6+8 pin card?
Got my rx 6800 to perform better than the average 6800 XT as per Time Spy's average score. Needs better cooling to make the boost algo happy enough to keep its boost higher for longer, but meh. I've got an NZXT G12 I plan on modding arriving soon because I can't be asked to spend a bunch of money on a custom loop
Also my FCLK clock is trash. For whatever reason the card can't do above 1850 FCLK anymore, despite happily benching and gaming at 2100 a week ago. Bit of a shame, as the clocks were actually helping
Also also, CPU score is pretty trash because I didn't bother tuning it. I only cared about GPU score
Out of curiosity
Are you the dude from the salad discord server
Oh hey there! Long time no see lol
Yep!
Hi! How are you???
I'm good, yourself?
Doing great! Glad to hear it ❤️
odd
What's the actual clock speed, since the new vbios can be a higher starting point?
That's beating my old 3090 at stock, nicely done https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/33719537/spy/20104822
Are Time Spy scores comparable across architectures? My assumption was that I had just barely breached 3080 perf, as I'm matching 6800 xt's which generally perform a few % faster than a 3080
The scores themselves can be compared, but not things like clock frequencies
And that 3090 was garbage tier
But it was still a 3090
Interesting. I guess that's fair, but given in games the 6800 xt is slower than a 3090 on average, I'd assume that Radeon merely overperforms in this bench
Yeah my current 3080 ti is still a little above your score at stock I think. Hang on I'll re-run it.
Thanks, I appreciate it
Yeah 19652 GPU score at stock
So you're nearly at the performance level of a 3080 ti
Oh yeah, I didn’t think of that
That still wouldn’t explain the graphics score going down by 500
Yeah true
Only thing I was thinking is it thermal throttling but checking temps it’s only at around 60ish
I’m going to try a different vBIOS
Sick
Thanks, I appreciate the double checking ❤️
At stock it's really easy for some cards to power throttle instead, but who knows.
You can hit 21k+ with mpt and overdriven
Should be able to do 2500mhz+
Much more on water
It's a non XT, it caps at 2600mhz. They straight up don't hit 21k graphics score lol. I've got the slider maxed out and I am using MPT. The core boost algo needs water cooling to get closer to that 2600mhz ceiling, but until I get around to modding my G12 I'm happy with where I'm at
The highest graphics score on Timespy for a 6800 non XT ever is 20239
i dont think pcie power pins matter if bios flashing, i run a 3x 8pin hof xoc bios on my ref card
Once I get it on water I'll see about cranking SOC voltage and see if I can get my higher FCLK clock back, and maybe see about bumping up the IMC clock too. Atm my FCLK is neutered, and the IMC can't handle any overclocks. So I think I'm fairly close to maxed out on air
What are your mpt settings?
On mobile atm so I can't check, but as far as things I remember changing, FCLK 1850 min/max, vcore 1081mv min/max, 400w PL, 400 amp gfx current limit, iirc I set SOC to 60 amp current limit, and I upped two of the minor clocks up my 20mhz (I don't recall which two)
The card doesn't boost higher with more core voltage, so I'm 90% sure it's a temperature thing. So I'm expecting some minor gains once I get that G12 up and running
Card doesn't pull over 320w so there wasn't much reason to
I know a few who had great results with lm
Already rocking it, but I've got a ref cooler so there's a bit of an issue there lol
You'd have the top score on hwbot, should sub it https://hwbot.org/submission/5099018_millosh_r_3dmark___time_spy_(gpu)_radeon_rx_6800_19091_marks
The Radeon RX 6800 @ 2550/2150MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the 3DMark - Time Spy (GPU) benchmark. millosh_rranks #88 worldwide and #1 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.
Beating millosh is an accomplishment
I've considered a few times. I've heard there are points in posting 5000mbps DDR4? If so then I've got a screenshot somewhere of my Rev E booting it
My IMC has died since then, so there is 0 chance I can pull that off again lol
Yeah, ddr4 itself gets hardware points for how it scores against other ddr4. Though, djr on rocket lake is usually the meta
I think there are one or two top 10's with rev.n on amd
Neat. My IMC is decaying and has decayed quite notably, so no way I get higher than that on this current chip, but I'll see if I can dig up that screenshot
Intel doesn't like rev e/b/n ime, I got 5166 to windows on a 10900k
Nice! I didn't bother trying past 5000, although I regret it now
I paid extra for one of the best bins then didn't bother to push past what 3200mbps Ballistix can do on a good day
If you want to go for mem freq on micron ddr4, you want an am4 apu
Idk why intel doesn't play well with micron ddr4
I've got a 5800x, but I bought it used and its IMC is trash and also is getting more trash with time
My 3700x was significantly better, but I sold it
That ship has sailed unfortunately
Just keep soc under 1.2 ambient lol
I've tried it, it still sucks
Pushing my current 3733 settings is getting to be mildly annoying
At this point I'm hoping that it'll fail to run jedec 3200 so that I can RMA it before my warranty expires 
In other news, I get a 403 error when registering for hwbot
Okay now I’m just stumped, I reflashed my 2080s’s vBIOS back to stock and I’m back to doing +100 on core +800 on mem
Graphics score magically went up 12274
Yep
Same everything
Except now my CPU score is at ~9k when doing 5.1gHz
Why am I having so many problems with this PC
CPU score original was 11k now it’s down to 8k and the CPU isn’t throttling
I slightly tuned my ram from 3200CL22-22-22 to 3200 16-18-18-38 maybe that’ll help with things
Brought voltage up to 1.35v
Should help for TS CPU score
Also brought my iGPU back to being disabled when dGPU is installed
Honestly so far I’m liking the gigabyte bios
…I think I know what’s happening
The iGPU was falsely boosting the graphics score
I disabled it, my cpu score is back up to 12k and my GPU score is down to 10800
Never heard that one before
Everything is fairly straightforward with most things being just in a long list
As much as I love the Asus bios all the different menus kinda get annoying
I'm most used to asus, but tbh I think evga has the best layout
evga > asus > msi > giga in terms of UI
Never used an EVGA bios

no more evga gpus
i always wanted to get one
guess i'll never have a chance
at least they still make motherboards
Reason: Bad word usage
what did i even say lol
anyway, i prefer supermicro bios over my gigabyte one
ah yes
aren't gigabyte bios infamous or something
at least on the lower end boards
i mean they're usable i guess but the layout is just awful
yikes
Adding an E to the end of the poop word is still blocked
Acceptable alternatives include gigaturd or gigassbite
Poope
That's not blocked
the poop word that starts with s and rhymes with whip
ship?
dont let the mods see 
oh wait ur THAT farawaythrower, i just connected the dots
i follow u on instagram lol
wow you're a genius lol
my intellect has no bounds
indubitably 🧐
Whiplashe?
only messing with primaries or are you touching the subs too?
Nah didn’t touch subs yet
subs and freq is where the performance is at. primaries do practically nothing and are kind of hell to stress test on certain ICs
might as well tighten them to where you have them because basically every currently in production IC can hit those timings, but I wouldn't spend much time minimizing them
Should definitely work on a good few of the secondaries first yeah, I'd recommend going in order of the ddr4 guide in the pins
some extra freq wouldn't hurt either, but it depends on the IC. i wouldn't blame you for leaving it at 3200 if it's C die or something
Considering it's a 3200 jedec kit I'd assume it's c die or similar
you can get lucky with those OEM sticks sometimes. or just not be entirely out of luck with something like D die. still trash, but sooooo much better than C
Possibly crappy hynix too
^
true, but have you ever tried tuning subs on C die? it is hell lol
Yep
admittedly the extra freq will help either way, but man is C die a pain
Pato look at peripherals chat lmao
Reason: Bad word usage
F
Yeah for the most part curse words are not allowed
noted 👍
Not a big deal, even if the bot kicks you you can just join back
anyway, I managed to get a kit of C die that scaled to 1.37 and could post 4000mbps semi stable, because ofc I get a golden sample C die, but garbage bin of CJR for my daily kit 
I still haven't oced my Rev e :p
I just got a 13600k a few weeks ago, over my winter break whenever I find the motivation I think I'll oc it and the cpu
if you ever get bored just go for 5000mbps freq validation, it's fun and even trash bins can hit it
way easier than actual tuning, because timings are totally irrelevant for it lol
Some people
Dudes just... interesting
Wow all the way to 1.37 how rare xD
trash IC moment :(
I'm hoping to be able to do 4000c16
where is the ban button
Cpu ocing will also be new to me
is the RPL IMC notably better than ADL's? I seem to recall 12th gen relatively frequently capping at around 3800mbps on DDR4, although I may be mistaken
Think i hit like 4800 on a b560 hdv with my rev e lol
My friends 12600k did 4000mhz
I thought it was 3600? I forgor 💀
sweet!
nice
I wonder what the difference between a 13600k with 4000c16 vs 4800c40 would be
Iirc ye it's a bit better, 1000% on the ddr5 side but pretty sure ddr4 bump too
Hmm actually lemme check hwbot for it
yeh, DDR5 on ADL was kind of... ehhhh
I'm pretty sure HUB demonstrated trash jedec 4800 outperforming manually tuned DDR4 stuff on ADL a while ago, but it has been a minute so I could easily be misremembering. I'm also unsure of the DDR4 freq being compared against. interesting stuff either way, although I suspect 8GB DDR5 sticks would probably fall short pretty heavily
Yeah 4800mhz and bad board and i didn't wanna bork bros imc with too much voltage so
makes sense. I got 5000mbps working on my b550, but didn't try for higher unfortunately
Over 3200mhz in gear 1 it had issues with yeah
Yeah gear 2 3600 on a lot of non k models
Something to do with the vscca voltage i think
that's what I had heard as well
I think kenzies (person in this server) 12100f did 3600
Depended on what the mobo decided to give for imc voltage ye
Z690 a pro has no problems with 3600g1 at least in manual but that kinda ruins the point of going non k
hehe, more mobo voltage tomfoolery? I'm getting flashbacks to Zen+ lol
Oh happy Pill, my z690a pro automatically was feeding my 13600k 1.48v
under load???
Was wondering why it was hitting 100c in r23 multi core
oh goodness lol
We thought there was an issue with my mount or the pump
Felix and sips (two other people here) figured it out and I set the voltage to 1.32
no, just motherboard manufacturers being incompetent-
many such cases unfortunately lol
I’m too lazy to mess with secondaries on this kit for now since it’s getting replaced with Ballistix on Christmas Day
I'm curious how much ocing headroom I'll have though, I still get 80c under multi core loads with a 280mm clc
You on the latest bios they might have fixed it?
Idts
makes sense. did you manage to snag one of those $90 2x16 kits?
Whatever bios were out about a month ago
Why bother at all for 4 days of use even?
Nah I had 2 sets of 2x8 I gave to my dad a while back. I’m taking them back as I got him a 2x32 kit of ram for his PC
Weird
Wanted to make sure this PC is functional
Lol
gotcha. enjoy the Rev E 👍
And I was in the bios already soooo
anta555 extreme ftw
Yep fully stable
A-die runs fine on ADL, its primarily the ICs and boards that were bad
difference between ADL and RPL with SR d5 is ~600mt
Yep
that's fair, ig you can't expect much out of current samsung and micron ICs atm
Grand, I'd leave it there then
Samsung caps at like 6200 manual anyway
But you can drive down the timings if you're lucky
They used inconsistent and biased testing for whatever reason
guess they were sponsored or something
afaik a fair bit of that is down to motherboards being weird. pushing it to 6600 or so is doable just fairly painful and time consuming. could be wrong, I haven't paid a ton of attention to DDR5
for that particular video?
odd, they're usually good about that stuff
If I hadn't gotten my mobo so cheap I think I mightve gone d5 looking at current pricing
$145 for a 6000c38 32gb kit
$160 M die is looking nice
$127 for my mobo though
what board is that?
Msi z690 a pro
They've never made good ram videos, sadly
nice, that's a super good deal lol
Yeah, amazon warehouse
i might be the slightest bit jealous :p
lol
good to know
Let me make a pcpartpicker list of my current build
Interestingly, with my z690 board and old m-die, 13600k did post higher freq
Part List - Intel Core i5-13600K, GeForce RTX 3060 Ti LHR, Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower
We don't talk about the gpu price
Crappy pre built fun
nice build 👍
did you replace the fans on the CLC by chance?
I couldn't stand them on my 360
Not yet, I have the fans to replace them with though
White p14s
They really are loud asf
sweet, I went for black p12's
great minds think alike ;)
Only reason I went with white is bc of the case
6600 is pretty low for a die afaik?
this is my machine, although I also have some other bits and bobs lying around
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/387DVw
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, Radeon RX 6800, Aerocool Aero One Eclipse ATX Mid Tower
You'd probably cry if you saw the cable management though
oh my chat didnt update, fun
my case is taped shut rn, I can't judge 
Lmaoo
no case is best case
This is old, it's a bit better now
agreed, i need one because I need to take my build with me twice per week
so not an option unfortunately
Red lights are from when I was failing to flash bios properly lol
i need to buy another, so i can actually have a test bench for cold benching stuff
my 3070 ti was so happy to have constant fresh air. moving to a case shaved off around 200mbps from its max mem clock
yeh lol, that stuff is ungodly temp dependent
Were you the person who did like +1500 on your mem or smthn crazy like that stable?
it was still pulling +2100/23.7gbps tho
2100 baby :D
Gah damn
ecc?
I could do 2225 on the test bench before losing performance from ecc hitting with higher temps in the case. I managed to walk it back up to 2100 in case before I sold
positive scaling all the way
I was pulling close to 88mh/s on it kek
very nice
my 2080ti has a really really nice core, below average mem tho
benches 2205mhz ambient water, 2345mhz cold
3070 ti was the opposite which kinda sucks for a product with entirely too much mem bandwidth at stock lol
heh
My 3060 ti does +1100 +210 in timespy
Could do I think 1500 for mining eth
With 55% pl and -512 core
Iirc anyways
fun bench
you had a 6800 xt when we were chatting in the salad server, right? any reason you went for a 3060 ti afterwards?
nice
3060 ti originally, got a 6800xt off amd direct for msrp, then back to same 3060 ti
Ocing the 6800xt was annoying for me, and it had issues with the game that I play most often
that's right, I forgot about the original 60 ti
That game being valorant
Static would randomly flash across the screen and the game would freeze for a few seconds
Was perfectly fine in other games though
aw, sad :(
tuning my 6800 was a blast, ig drivers are in a better state now
Even with the minimal tuning I did tho, it beat the best 3080 10gb on timespy
And was within top 1% of 3080 tis
I'm beating 3080 10GB's on my 6800, about 2.5% below a ti with my better scores
MPT rocks
nice, I'm rocking 19260 or thereabout iirc
average score is just under 16000 
I'm ahead of the average 6800 xt score by about 2% last I checked
so super happy with that
Gah damn
My 3060 ti would be top 100 if my systeminfo hadn't been out of date
Managed to get 13000 something but it isn't a valid result
And haven't been able to repeat it
nvm, looks like I'm only ahead by 0.4% now lol. either way I'm happy with my 6800 "xt"
ah, rip
If I do my tuning over my break I'm hoping I can hit it again
best of luck ❤️
may your temps be low and your clocks be high 🫡
Well that seems like a massive downgrade to me
Helps more than you'd think, especially since my rad is front mounted. I get around 6c lower cpu Temps in r23
were you around when i modded my 1060?
Idts
I'm about to be driving so gtg for now
ah alright. cya around
here we go
LMAO
came with a goofy flower style heatsink that ran the core at >95C with max fan speed, sooooo
I love that
clc360 was the way
lol
I'll have to find images of the completed form
it gets worse believe it or not lol
Casual 80mm fan zip tied to the end
It's over 9000. ElmorLabs KTH-USB: https://elmorlabs.com/product/elmorlabs-kth-usb-thermometer-with-usb/ Validation: https://valid.x86.fr/t14i1f
Thank you to Asus and Intel for supporting the record attempt!
Intel Core i9-13900K
Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Apex
G.Skill Trident Z5 2x16GB
ElmorLabs KTH-USB Thermometer
ElmorLabs Volcano CPU container
Baller
I can't believe Walmart honoured that typo, also did you find out if you got the very good nv2? Apparently there's been some controller swaps causing some to be just fine
The red lights aren't for speed? :(
shunted?
Was lent to me so I didn't bother with any hardmods, just temporarily keeping it from cooking itself
Haven't even installed it yet, I'm lazy
Going to put it in when I put the replacement fans for the clc in over my break
You guys get breaks
What a frime
Wat
Crime?
Just annoying since literally everyone I know that goes to a different school has a week and a half off
Because it's unlikely to be a strong memory IC, dual rank is harder to run 1T, and especially so on Intel motherboards
Ok, but if it's working then there's no reason not to run 1T
You can run a quick memory test, or just play your usual games. If you don't get blue screens or crashes then it's stable.
OCCT is fine for a quick test
Yeah sorry
Alright what about testmem5
I wouldn't suggest that for mem stability
You gotta be careful with it
So yeah, run tm5, also run occt
Command rate issues would show fairly quickly in any real test
Or at least within the 1hr limit of the free version OCCT
So use Tmp5?
Man that must really be garbo
Or you're on a begger platform
On my ivy system everything did 1t
it depends on the ram lol...
I also own very good ddr3
these are my most disappointing dimms
this?
first one
I think my amd software is crashing like my oc (i only have my fans oc) is bc my ram is on 1t
i dont think it crashed on 2t
it closed
Yep. Reopen it.
alright done
It'll automatically go through the test cycles now. It'll tell you if there's an error.
how long does it ususally take
It depends on your memory. The full series of tests can take 4-12 hours.
If it hasn't errored in an hour or two then you should be ok
oh ight
Might as well run the overnight overnight at some point
Unless you don't sleep, ever
I think my amd software is crashing like my oc (i only have my fans oc) is bc my ram is on 1t
i dont think it crashed on 2t
it might error bc of this
Yea i will well i go to bed around 1am est and wake up at 9am
I’m gonna test it on what i orginally was on first then do 1t
Is there something special I do or can I Jsut close out of the test and clicking x
?
You can just close it
Either gets the same result
Auto is fine but it'll end up the same either way
Does auto mean it’s on 2n? Or
Auto means let the memory controller and motherboard pick
Which in this case it'll very likely pick 2N
So i should put it on 2n to be safe
You can
but..?
There's no but
oh
ivy's imc is super hit and miss
I'm rather excited for the set of b-die I'm getting to add to my current one. Think I can get 3800c14 stable with 4 slots filled?
what did you buy?
A 2x8gb kit from rommy
Didn't ask for specific model number, but it's b-die and not corsair so good enough for me
nah i just ask because im curious to see the label and whatnot
i do that sometimes too lol it's annoying
It's already past the expected delivery day and still "moving through the network" so I'm even more anxious
holiday shipping 💀
all the gifts i bought for people are gonna arrive super late lol
Yup I remember having to sort all those pallets upon pallets of packages...
I always buy local if I can these days, Amazon can suck it
same, but my city sucks for tech
You know what's faster than 2 day shipping? A similar item at a local business that's only 10-20% more expensive
Zen 2/3?
Zen 3
5800X
I can already do 1900 fclk stable, 2000 if I ignore WHEAs
btw @celest notch there's been some curiosity about those sticks, namely the stickers on them
Yes you're saving me from the despair of games literally crashing because they suck at managing memory and keep reserving 2-3x what they really need
Witcher was the tipping point, even with my page file set to 8GB it crashes at 100% virtual memory usage
I'll just look at his hwbot subs 
They're not the royals right?
Cause he has subs with royals lol
T-Force?
No wait that's 32gb
Why does he have so many kits lmao
But dang he got 3800c12 with just a fan over them
Oh is it the Viper kit maybe?
It's fine lol, he used them in this sub so they must be good https://hwbot.org/submission/4979079_ggood003_y_cruncher___pi_1b_ryzen_9_5900x_24sec_37ms
4800 16-18-18-28
yea that doesnt surprise me
even decent a0 can do 4000C14
lol that too
Better than my 4133 19-23-23 kit then
lol definitely
And I can do 3800 14-15-13-28 on that
So fingers crossed I don't lose too much on the primaries
I'm sure it'll be fine but there's always a chance...
Oh I intend to
do the overclocking 
I will now that I have more banks. RAM benches here I come.
lol
Should be no problem
I thought as much but there's always that small chance they don't play nice even though both are the same die
Yep that was the plan. Gotta plan to spend 2+ days totally redoing every timing. Fun.
At least I'll have it done in time to do more subs before the end of year
I doubt it would take that long the 2nd time around
True I already know a rough idea of what I can do
2850 shader in SLI
https://hwbot.org/submission/5149412_seby9123_3dmark06_2x_geforce_8800_gt_512_mb_43002_marks
Gaddam seby calm down
We benched it together tonight, last run of our prolonged country cup benchmeet
Makes me want to re-run the gts's, had to end that session early at only 1.35v, I think they have a lot more in the tank
Very nice
GTX's are up next
I'll get some subs in once I get the new ram kit
Main thing we're missing rn is 6000 series crossfire
Or fm2+ on a crossblade ranger, but I'm giving that a try soon
ideally we'd run
I've got a Phenom II x4 if that helps at all, the board might still work
Which one? Those are fun on ln2, but not really otherwise
980 iirc
For the 3dm05 stage, we're restricted to am3/am3+ cpu only, 3000 series amd gpu. Wondering if phenom thuban/deneb vs fx at one core per module would be best
There's no cpu test in 05, but it'll help graphics score for those cards
I've got a FX 8300 too in that case
980 would've been meta for this year's team cup, can do 6g+ on ln2
I got that 8300 to 5GHz on air 
For fx, would need a board that can run the chip 1 core per module, but also ln2 on cpu lol
If it works still after I flexed it a bit I have a MSI gaming 970
I just noticed that sub is almost a full 6k higher than second place. You guys are insane.
Ok here we go, 4090 on water, idling 18C with the AC blasting
Right in it's face
19690 TSE first run, I'm 10 points off my pb
GPU a little slower, CPU a little faster
GPU running 3105 tho again
Memory not as happy tho running this cold

19686
What I do like is not having to wait 5 minutes to cool the card between runs
30 seconds and the systems back to 18C lololol
If I even match my PB I'm more than happy tbh
It's going to give you like 19699 just because you say that lol
IT GAVE ME 19698 COS YOU SAID THAT
Felix you've given me motivation for no reason at all, when I get home ima do some timespy, finally install my new fans for my aio, and my ssd
Reeee
Dew it
Well fight for best score
Mountain Dew it
4090<x79 igpus
Time to to beyond
I need to hit like 20K now to get top 100 again
With a ram* tune? Eh maybe
If I hit 20054 I match Seby
Kekw
i bet you are jealous of people with 780 ti's
19734
Still haven't passed my graphics pb yet
+240 simply won't run and I can't use a custom curve to edge this more (Thanks MSI it still cuts off at 3K)
you deff have most up to date one?
Yup
Oh wow I'm actually close to the top 100 for 1x gpu again

16 points off
Trying something out
Does evgas thing possibly work?
Ask kingpin to hook you up I'm sure he got a working version of precision for 40 series
One of you two still around?
Hi
Slide in his dm's?
Slightly stupid question: do I put the screws through the entire thing, or just the bottom hole
I'm assuming just the bottom one
Entire thing
Exactly
Some aio's don't screw all the way through is why
Yeah that can end in a hecker of a time

My gpu idling 1C above ambient now

Ok lemme try precision X1
If it lets me do a curve I might be able to voltage lock
Dammit voltage lock doesn't seem to work
Just almost had a heart attack
Didn't unplug the psu since I was just changing fans, and the pc took like 5 seconds longer than normal to actually turn on
Thought I broke something
God that is so much quiter
Lol
Gonna see if timespy will finish with +210 and +1100
210 was only stable like 1/5 times previously so well see ig
Suffering from success
I think ima just run a bench or two, and over my break I'll do some more after ram tuning
Manual curve would def be a few more points tho
True, I could just start ram tuning in the morning
Rn I've got like 2.5 hrs before I gotta leave and I just want to chill for a bit
But I want to see the max potential nao 
I dont feel like losing my mind ram tuning right before work lmao
Best for this card looks to be 3105 (+225) and +1212 mem
I need it to be warmer to run higher mem
Interesting that's how that works
But then I think it runs slower lol
When I think of nand this makes sense to me
Yeah voltage locking isn't helping
Oh well
Rip, ts crashed
Couple more runs to try for T100
Don't think I'm going to be able yo get +210 core to work again
bruh
F
why not curve? pre pasc or doodoo xoc bios?
voltage locking u say? this is where i2c my beloved comes in
I'm not taking the card I just got working apart at 3am to volt mod without even an i2c to begin with 
surely 4090 has i2c lol
Also it's 4090, I can't do a curve above 3K
evc is cheap
I know, I haven't gone that far yet lol
putting a trimpot between refin and vref is even cheaper
I haven't even tuned the ram lol
core tuning is more fun anyway
Oop
I'm getting artifacts in ts
Vram oc is the unstable part I guess
Which is weird, I never had issues with 1100
ecc?
I meant cpu ram lol
oh
Good few points in that
im too broke to shoot for global points
i just got a fair amount of global with 12 core by chance after 7950x came out and my old 9920x subs got boosted
If only it was a 2x8 pin 3060 ti
or whatever the am5 12 core is
With artifacting?
i doubt a 3060ti would benefit from a 2nd 8 pin
Dial mem back 50-100
Yeye
Wonder if 225 on core would be stable
Gonna try that after trying 1075 on vram
13300 might be achievable if you were 400 points off with artifacts
Highest I've gotten was 13265 iirc
Nah go 50-100 mem lower
ecc could be messing ur score
25 you might still be getting regression
1100 was stable for a long time, if it has artifacts again ill dial it down again
I'll see what I get and then run one with it at 1050
higher clock on mem can mean worse perf
Maybe the pads need replacin
Possibly, but Temps are still good so idts
put a tiny bit of paste on the pads lol
58 core 70 something hotspot
I really don't want to tempt fate by opening up my gpu, I've shaky hands and am extremely clumsy
Temps being within range on the bleeding edge can mean jack for stability
Mm
For example my 4090 core crashes 3105 at 49C exactly every time
60 in ts sounds pretty high for a 3060ti? tho im not sure how much they draw nor what cooler or case u have
My memory running some 10-15C lower gave me 200 more memory clock
But then it seems to regress when it gets too cold
i ran out of dice before i could see cold scaling on my 2080ti mem 
Try 975 mem
Alr
Then go up if it's stable
The artifacts are much less severe and often than they were
There was a flash of rainbow static once and that's it
The difference in yhe cpu test between my 13600k and 3600 is hilarious
More than 2.5x fps
It be a gorgeous cpu
When you tune the cpu the GPU score may end up a tiny bit better too
Be it a couple points but you might want those
Gpu score is the same between 975 1000 1075 and 1100
Let's see what +225 core will do lol
99% sure it'll fail, never got it to succeed once, but 210 has been stable for the last three benches so let's see what happens
yeah it failed
ill come back to this over break, fn ima just chill
Lol
Should i get MPT if im not gonna oc my gpu?
so my amd OC SETTINGS crashes every other day when i load up my pc.. i got nothing OC besides my 3600 mhz ram with xmp. and then my tuning of my gpu fans
Should i use MPT if i dont plan on oc my gpu?
If it draws more power does that mean it will run better without tweaking any of the defaults oc
?
any help\
People will help if they're able/willing to. There's no point in doing this 🗿
alright
the demo is free on steam
first one?
Yes
Yea
If u haven't already take the power limit and slide it to the max
Should i do it on msi afterburner or mpt? or amd software
U can also try slowly raising core and memory frequency
I just use afterburner
with mpt i can increase the max limit power usage
You were having frametime issues when you were trying to OC before and going back to default fixed that, not sure why you want to oc again?
Oop felix and patos here lol
Oh didnt see that
It's ok Danny
Btw that combines cpu and gpu into one total score, just look at either the graphics or the cpu score seperately, they're to the right of that total score
No I got everything fixed it was my old ram
So I bought new ram
Mpt or amd software for amd
So it's stable even if you play with it a little bit?
mhm i got xmp on and its stable
Ok
Btw afterburn isn't the best for oc on amd
thought so
You want to use MPT and MCT
Or if you aren't able to understand how MPT and MCT works, just use adrenalin
Yea adrenaline seems to work
Have you tried running test mem 5 or some other memory benchmark? Also try the troubleshooting are of this bat file sounds like some corruption
!bat
Link to a general windows fixes and scans by Risen
https://github.com/Ryzen5950XT/Windows-stuff/releases/download/Windows-utilities-and-fixes-batch-file/Win.Utils.Fixes.Latest.launcher.bat
Sometimes 
Set max clocks, voltage up, memory up, power slider up and you want to keep testing with timespy on a loop
Why use anything but overdriven or moreclocktool for big navi?
Idk, never used overdriven lol
Basically the same thing as mct
Fixes
On mpt or adrenalin
If you know how MPT works then use MPT
If it's too difficult then stick to adrenalin/wattman
We've tried discussing how to get you working with it before
I only know how to up the power limit on the mpt thats the only thing iv changed on it
Well that's really half the battle
After i click write SPPT do i click save? and then restart pc>
Write sppt iirc then restart
done
Just note whatever you set you should be mindful of your hotspot temps
Whether this is for benching or for daily
yes ofc
Now you can use moreclocktool or wattman/adrenalin
Adrenalin resets your power limit if you change in there
So remember that
You need to set adrenalin, then MPT then restart
ohh
Or do MCT
okay let me redo it hen
I think the hotspot limits are pretty conservative unless you disable throttling, then you'll just get a hard shutoff at 115c
Without disabling, I think it just throttles around 90c hotspot
When I was playing with my friend's 6900XT it still wasn't really throttling past 95C hotspot
oh dang
We just kept 95 in mind to be safe
yea i wil to or even 90
Up to you
Alright what should i do now
I'd set things up with MCT
I dont really know how to use MCT
yea i will
Just watch hotspot
If it's too hot then it's either way too much power or the card mount isn't good
/fans are still stock
Hoping you set those up to 100
Should@I do all 100? Or
^
400-440
For fans?
so put them all to 100 for the bench marking
Yea i want the tests for like gaming mainily.
not for just benchmarking
Well don't apply the curve and try a run
so keep this then?
alright
Like don't even undo changes
yea i wont
Just leave it as it'll change the sppt
well i inreased the power limit on the aderelain and then on the mpt again and restyarted pc
Running the test rn
Uhhh
When that's done running do the chkdsk one then reboot pc
Figured as much
Varying by workload
Which 6900XT is this?
Gigabyte gaming oc
That's quite high
Ok how comfortable are you taking a GPU apart
0
What was your max normal gpu temp?
65
Holy crap
Under load where you got the 100c+ result
Your temps are quite high
Gaming wise or during the test or what
I’m on 2k res btw
Honestly seeing if you can tighten the 4 screws on the backplate might be enough, i had a similar hotspot issue with my 3070 gaming oc
Probably not
Whatever you did to get the 102c hotspot temp
If it's stock paste it'll be dry
Oh that’s the spy test
It is stock paste
You'd be surprised, i took apart mine, paste wasn't dry, was perfectly spread, i did repaste but pretty sure tightness was the issue
Yeah just stick to adrenalin and undervolt
I would gently see if you can tighten the backplate screws
And undo your mpt settings
i have this up
should i try 420 instead of 440
You had fans maxed or fans on the curve
Not for daily I don't think
should i put them to 75 all?
alright
Undo your MPT
I can't remember 100% I believe so
Ok
If during this you see your hotspot running high still then MPT won't make sense without repasting (maybe even repadding too)
Since you're after a daily tune
Undervolting is where a good chunk of the performance comes from anyway
Well gaming tune for I can get better performance while gaming
Oh okay
What’s the highest it should go to
No I mean the hot spot
Highest it’s reached was 91 for a mili sec
Varys from 78-85
Not bad at all
Oo hits 65
That's a lot more sane
Ok and the score?
Well I’m after I wanna be able to get really good fps boosts for video games
Temps are good for 2k res
You'll not get anything crazy good
Ok so barely any loss for a lot less power
Ok follow these instructions
In adrenalin
Set max clock to 2600
of vram or gpu
this is max voltage
Is this a pasted card? or does it use a graphite TIM
It's not
All of my reference big navi cards had graphite
Honestly didn't see much of a difference swapping to mx-5 or kpx, which probably pumps out quickly anyway
Max clock 2600
^
Vram set fast timing then try somewhere in the range of like, 2250 to 2300
2200 was the best last time i OC but thats when i didnt know my ram was bad



