#overclocking

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signal belfry
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why would the +number change? it was +186 to reach 1980 mhz

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now it changed tho to +231

dull ginkgo
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At different places on the v/f curve

signal belfry
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No

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It’s on the same voltage if that’s what your talking about

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I dropped like 5-6c tho from usual temps

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That might’ve changed it I think?

potent fiber
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Sometimes it changes a bit right when you hit apply, but also that +231 is in relation to the stock clock at that specific voltage square. In the future , show the voltage line plz.

scenic vine
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Yeah, temps also matter when you press apply

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Since it'll raise or lower the curve if it gets cooler or hotter

signal belfry
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is this a good score for a i7 10700k?

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it was running 5ghz and consumed like 230w

static oasis
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Yes, 200 points more than average OCed

proven canopy
signal belfry
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5.1ghz

frigid cedar
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I don't know if anyone's looking to tune some samsung b-die but here's my ddr5 6000 timings for anyone who wants to try them

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Aida64 latency of 56.9ns

frigid cedar
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Oh it also squeezed out an insignificant boost to my last r23 score

storm kettle
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can someone help me overclock my asus gtx1050ti?

broken frost
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youre not gonna get much out of it

storm kettle
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4gb

broken frost
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max voltage slider, +70c and maybe like what

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450 on mem

storm kettle
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had it overclocked before but wasnt done quite good

broken frost
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try that

storm kettle
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what app?

broken frost
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I use evga precision x1 but you could also use msi afterburner

storm kettle
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ok

zenith palm
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@storm kettle don't touch the voltage slider leave as stock, cards already give way more voltage than needed at stock, use msi afterburner and slide the power all the way over, then increase core in increments of 25, would start at 50, run 3d mark timespy until it crashes, dial back 25 until stable them try mem at +300 then increase in 50's til you notice loosing score or crash then roll back

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@broken frost ^ if anything undervolt

storm kettle
limpid prism
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i have a i7 6700k with an asus z170 board. I have not messed with overclocking and am wondering if its worth doing? Are the performance gains in terms of gaming noticeable? Is it very risky? Same goes with overclocking my graphics card (1080)

sudden torrent
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It's not very noticeable in gaming. You can go from 100 to 105, maybe 108 fps depending on the game

limpid prism
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okay. might just hold off then. thank you!

sudden torrent
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It can be fun to do just because

limpid prism
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tru. i just dont want to break anything. any good guides you know of?

sudden torrent
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Check the pins, there's links

frigid cedar
# limpid prism tru. i just dont want to break anything. any good guides you know of?

If you mean you don't touch anything in the bios as not overclocking something perfectly safe and stable I can recommend is finding your wattage limit in bios and letting your cpu access as much as it can and to max out your short and long turbo duration as a simple way to get a small boost to cpu performance also most asus boards have a feature called multi core enhancement or MCE that applies the single core turbo to all cores

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Although be warned while stable mce applies high voltage so almost all binning quality of cpu can do it so maybe look into undervolting it once your there

digital dirge
sudden torrent
digital dirge
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Obv at cost of more heat right?

sudden torrent
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You'll need a way to cool it, probably sub-ambient, to get any real benefit but yeah

digital dirge
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I see ok.

sudden torrent
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Otherwise increasing the heat load means you go backwards on the boost table

zenith palm
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Which is why you should be undervolting if anything on air cooled cards

kind walrus
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How to fix on RX.6600 terish

sudden torrent
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Is it the same through multiple runs?

kind walrus
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I changed tessellation to use the application settings and I got the same invalidation

digital dirge
kind walrus
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I didn't do it

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I swears it

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I installed the driver and it defaulted to 8x

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On a lighter note I haven't done any bios power modifying or repasting and the card is on like 8800 graphics score which is about 10% off of #1

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But idk how much that means with the tessellation

sudden torrent
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Sometimes you need to reboot to get it to reread the settings correctly

kind walrus
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Ah ok I didn't do that

digital dirge
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Jk. Sorry, I'm at work. Bored.

kind walrus
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Anyway it's day one, it seems to like fast timing vram maxed so yeet

kind walrus
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Still getting a feel for the clock speed, it'll probably do more with a repaste and maybe some 60 more watts (idk what more wattage this card can take yet)*

digital dirge
kind walrus
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Fans? P12?

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Wait

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I remember

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Deja vu

sudden torrent
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I don't know how much headroom that's got anyway since it's basically a factory overclocked 6900 XT

kind walrus
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24K timespy should be expected on xtxh

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At a minimum lol

digital dirge
# kind walrus Fans? P12?

Yeah and the single p12 i ordered on Amazon is through Arctic and they are the ones holding up my order.

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Of the other 9 fans and extensions.

kind walrus
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Oh right you're putting a galahad in iirc

digital dirge
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I'm not really happy with them atm because of that.

digital dirge
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With a lga1700 kit.

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Although the bracket is bendy plastic.. so I'm a little wth on the quality compared to everything else in the kit.

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I was gonna see if the Arctic bracket would work, but idk.

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Arctic at least provided a nice solid metal bracket

kind walrus
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Alphacool has the lga1700 backplate you could use if you're worried about that (may need washers to adapt it)

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Actually good question, contact frame?

digital dirge
digital dirge
kind walrus
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Honestly I kinda agree with it feeling flimsy lol

digital dirge
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Yeah. That alphacool backplate works for the galahad?

kind walrus
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I reckon it would but alphacool says for it's aio's only

digital dirge
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I see. Ill take a look at it. Do you by chance have a link handy?

kind walrus
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EK also has a backplate that works but that doesn't fix the cpu flex like the alphacool one does

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Ye one sec

digital dirge
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The Arctic doesn't have threaded holes on the back plate so the mounting of the pump wouldn't work right i think.

digital dirge
kind walrus
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It comes with screws designed to mount that cooler but whether it tightens down with the lian li I'm not sure, but washers will prolly fix

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Pins through the mobo, tighten into the backplate

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It's finicky

digital dirge
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Hm.

kind walrus
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EK's one isn't as finicky, you could use that with a contact frame

digital dirge
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What is the contact frame?

kind walrus
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Thermalright cpu contact frame

digital dirge
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I just know backplate and pump block

kind walrus
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You prolly don't need it tho on 12600K

digital dirge
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Is that like the thermal grizzly thing?

kind walrus
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It stops cpu flex

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Ye

digital dirge
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Gotcha. Ok. I was planning on grabbing one of those when I grabbed a 13th gen

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Why a thermalright one over grizzly?

kind walrus
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Same thing, cheaper

digital dirge
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Oh. Ok

kind walrus
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Like gigglebit versus a sus

digital dirge
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Yeah.. ima be grabbin a sus mobo soon

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Alright. My main concern was longevity of the back plate, but I'll just use it for now and look into what I can do about it by the time I got for the 13th gen/new mobo

kind walrus
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Longevity I wouldn't worry about vs. effectiveness

digital dirge
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Well, results of effectiveness from GN is done with the flimsy backplate

zenith palm
zenith palm
kind walrus
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I do

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That new driver like 2.7 or something

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With the minecraft improvements

sudden torrent
zenith palm
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Both afaik

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Think it's better than xtxh 6900 but i could be wrong

kind walrus
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I think on average it's slightly better

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It's not like 3090 Ti that just goes ham

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Also depends on which xtxh/6900/6950 I think

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Some have cleaner power deliveries than others for pcb

sudden torrent
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That accounts for maybe 2% difference at best

kind walrus
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Yeah, but then also unlocked vram

sudden torrent
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The vram is binned like crazy on those 6950

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That much I know

kind walrus
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Some 6900's it's the same but you just can't push higher due to the limits of the drivers

sudden torrent
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Dang I was going to go to sleep but now I'm going to have to look at hwbot scores lol

kind walrus
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Lol 3dmark might also tell a bit of a tale

sudden torrent
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Yeah but they don't separate by cooling type

kind walrus
sudden torrent
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Hwbot can

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That way I can just look at air cooled results to weed out the LN2 and custom loop subs

digital dirge
zenith palm
kind walrus
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Ye

sudden torrent
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6950 best time spy sub on stock cooling got 2800 core 2400 mem
6900 best the core is about the same but memory is 2140

kind walrus
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Wait fr?

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It's changed recently, 6900 was higher before

kind walrus
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6950 is unlocked to like, 3000

sudden torrent
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Makes sense yeah. So really the only difference between the best 6900 and 6950 is the memory.

kind walrus
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Sounds like we gained nothing

digital dirge
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I don't wanna know this lol

sudden torrent
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The price difference between them isn't that much between a top model 6900 and a 6950 so it's still worth it, at least to me

digital dirge
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Also what do you consider top model 6900?

sudden torrent
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3080 ti
It was all I could get mid shortage, the FE from an in person best buy drop.

digital dirge
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Noice

sudden torrent
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Best of the best, probably HOF

digital dirge
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Oh ok.

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I guess, my sapphire is midrange then?

sudden torrent
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Which one?

digital dirge
sudden torrent
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Nitro pure, that was mid-high iirc

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Nice model overall

digital dirge
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Its beautiful. I watched the gn tear down and he was gushing all over it lol

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The only really bad thing he said was the price:performance

kind walrus
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Top model 6900 is ocf/ toxic extreme/strix top

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For 6950 it's OCF again but idk if toxic is also up there

sudden torrent
kind walrus
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6900 has hof?

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I thought that was an nvidia thing

sudden torrent
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Wait you're right that's Galax

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What was I thinking about

kind walrus
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Wait galax has a 3080 10gb hof

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Wtf why is that vbios not public

sudden torrent
kind walrus
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Oh yeah red devil ultimate/liquid devil

sudden torrent
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Yep

sudden torrent
kind walrus
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I did, only sub 400W ones

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So that's why there's a 1000W vbios, I knew there was one but now I've seen a card that should have one

sudden torrent
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It's the kingpin bios that's 1kW, and you have to request it from EVGA

kind walrus
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That's for 3090/ti

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I believe the 80 Ti is only hof

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But 80 10gb I've been told before they have 1000W but they wouldn't hand it over

sudden torrent
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The most I think I've seen is 450W

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Which you'd think at least one triple 8 pin model would have 500

kind walrus
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Yeah

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It's sad tbh but also not really important tbf

zenith palm
zenith palm
kind walrus
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Also skemmers

digital dirge
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Yeah @zenith palm

kind walrus
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Also I did a kekw

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I stuck the 1650 in my 3080 rig

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Wanted to see what happens and honestly that lp card is the quietest it's ever been

digital dirge
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If I had enough room.. and if I could run nvidia/amd drivers, I'd do the same

kind walrus
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3080 tuf + sapphire 6900

digital dirge
kind walrus
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Like a hidden knife in the boot

zenith palm
kind walrus
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My idea is to try and use that little zotac as the nvenc tho

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Or even a supp display

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Like if I had a little usb-c rasp pi screen for stats

digital dirge
kind walrus
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I was eyeing a $30 one before

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I think it was called a turing smart screen

digital dirge
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Hm

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What size?

kind walrus
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Like tiny

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6 keeb keys big

digital dirge
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Sheesh

kind walrus
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Stick two temp graphs on it, or a bunch of memes

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Like stealing pato gifs

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Or smthn

digital dirge
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How much is this for you?

kind walrus
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111

digital dirge
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Waow

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I feel like you should get a bigger screen for sensor panel since you'll be spending $50 for Aida

kind walrus
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Do I have to buy aida

digital dirge
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AFAIK, its the only way to make a sensor panel

kind walrus
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I could also just stick my extra hdmi into it

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Use that to run a dummy screen

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For recording

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Hmm

zenith palm
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Buying aida 🤮

kind walrus
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Yeah prolly not gonna do it if I need aida

digital dirge
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I do have 2 PCs left on my liscense..

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Since I only have the 1 pc

zenith palm
digital dirge
zenith palm
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Oh yeah that's pretty cool

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Might need to move the pop with the 6950xt

digital dirge
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It's going to get changed up a tad with the new GPU and that fact that I added another SSD

zenith palm
digital dirge
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is there any sort of like thermal thing I can put in between it?

zenith palm
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Uh don't think so

digital dirge
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well then.

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I'll figure something out.

sterile flame
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Push it to the limit

signal belfry
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Man ln2 is so useless when that exist

static oasis
zenith palm
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Msi afterburner

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And 3d mark timespy is free

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3d marks demo on steam

frigid cedar
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Just a little bit more to the score

frigid cedar
digital dirge
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most the time that doesn't work anyways. Plus, why not support the company that took all that time and hard work to make something that you'll use?

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That is how they continue to provide good software after all.

sudden torrent
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And you're borderline recommending software piracy so please don't

signal belfry
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Sorry

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Didn’t know that

proven canopy
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I'm not really sure why aida has such laughable DRM

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Also - why search keys on youtube vs google lol

sudden torrent
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It takes longer for the keys to get blacklisted on YouTube

proven canopy
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afaik they never get blacklisted

sudden torrent
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That's the general pattern at least

proven canopy
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There's no online verification at all

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I.. know someone who's used the same aida engineer key for a few years now

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I'd imagine folks make more money by putting it in a youtube vid

sudden torrent
signal belfry
proven canopy
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Yeah - though I'm surprised it never tries to phone home when connected to the net

sudden torrent
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But it should be trivial to blacklist keys by updates without an online system

tall pelican
frigid cedar
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Yeah would definitely just buy it if not trial

proven canopy
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I think that was the Corsair ddr4 comp

tall pelican
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should still be able to dig up old comp, and pull the key from the directions though

night grail
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wellllll about that

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just saying that key was invalidated FYI

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i saved it from the camp and about 5 days after it ended the key no longer works

digital dirge
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My newest bios does not like my memory oc that I had before I updated :(

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It seems it doesn't want to apply my SA voltage.

finite frigate
digital dirge
kind walrus
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Yes

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Unless it's like asus copium you can definitely go back

sudden torrent
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This is why when it comes to firmware... If it ain't broke don't fix it

digital dirge
sudden torrent
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Ah see that's the exception, since it is broke lol

digital dirge
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yeah but it didn't fix it sadly 😦

restive cargo
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Please protect socket

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towels go a long way here.

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Pretty epic tho not the first time I've seen that.
Come sub to the unofficial official Newegg HWBOT Team.

proven canopy
restive cargo
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I never went see my dice guy.

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I got the local hookup.

restive cargo
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Good times

dull ginkgo
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@restive cargo didn't you use a huge tube once for cold air

restive cargo
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yes

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i did that too

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The dryer duct

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I wanna try that again but with my custom loop.

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Stick my hwlabs 360 in the ice bucket.

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The water shouldn't freeze fast as long as I keep the pump on.

proven canopy
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Post the picture

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It's TrashCanPartyBlob

proven canopy
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Peak or Prestone

signal belfry
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Nvm

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I thought the bucket was connected to the loop

mental turret
proven canopy
digital dirge
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Then there's the hammer. You know, for when he doesn't get the bench results he wants and smashes the hardware in a rage.

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But.. fr though, why you gotta hammer there? Lol @restive cargo

barren ridge
sudden torrent
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I keep a hammer within reach of my PC too, you don't?

digital dirge
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Uhh. I mean my hammer is like 10 steps from my pc, but no.. not within reach. I see no need lol.

restive cargo
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That's for breaking the ice

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I had like 5lb bags

kind walrus
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https://www.3dmark.com/spy/29823636
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/29827179

Best two results from this morning's MPT run with the RX6600 Eagle. This is a good card. I haven't repasted it nor maxed the fans (Max rpm is like 4500 and idk if the windforce fans are safe for that rpm) nor really pulled all the stops on the cpu or ram* oc either

signal belfry
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Nice oc

kind walrus
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Yea between 10 and 15% is pretty good

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It was also pulling 250W vs the stock 100 kek

signal belfry
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Could my uncore being clocked high stop me from passing a speed on my ram?

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I’m on 10th gen intel btw

digital dirge
signal belfry
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Ik but I meant that but vice versa

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With high uncore causing ram oc issues

digital dirge
signal belfry
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@digital dirge what was your ram clocks? Asking cause I’m curious of how your uncore clocks with the ram

signal belfry
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Same

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B die?

digital dirge
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E rev

signal belfry
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Nice I also use rev e

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My current clock is 16 20 20 38

digital dirge
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Ballistix 3200c16 kit?

signal belfry
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And 4.6 on the uncore

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3000 cl15

digital dirge
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Ah

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I can't get below 16 22 22 38

signal belfry
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U try raising the voltage?

digital dirge
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Yep.

signal belfry
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I was able to get down to cl14

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Still a nice oc

digital dirge
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I had to raise sa voltage to get there as well.

signal belfry
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What’s that at?

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I’m bout to start overclocking a bit later to pass 4000

digital dirge
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I can't remember off the top my head.

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Like 1.43 or something.

signal belfry
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I7 10700k

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I wonder if the bios are in 4k

digital dirge
# signal belfry I7 10700k

Ok, find out what safe daily sa/io voltages are for your cpu. I have 12th gen and it likes higher voltages.

signal belfry
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Oh I read have those voltages set

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I’m just bored rn so I’m overclocking my oc again

digital dirge
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Ah.

signal belfry
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Watching stranger things season 4 rn as well

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Currently catching up on the season

digital dirge
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Today is my Friday and I get a 3 day weekend so I might mess around with OC a bit.

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My cpu for the most part is fine, but i don't really wanna lower ram oc to raise ring clocks

sterile flame
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Just do mild oc and play some games lol

signal belfry
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I’m getting postcodes 55 rn lol

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No ram detected

sterile flame
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Ray tracing is soo much better on the 3080 then my 2080ti

signal belfry
sterile flame
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I am doing both

mental turret
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gdie > bdie
😎

digital dirge
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I will probably raise my sa voltage by like .07 and see if I can lower timings on my ram. Might bump dram voltage up by .05-.1 as well

signal belfry
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I just realized I was running my trfc at 580 4000 mhz I think that’s good for rev e

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Poggers

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I’m posting

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Pass 400

mental turret
sterile flame
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Getting 19.6k ts graphics score with 3080

signal belfry
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@digital dirge u can not believe how hard I tried to post pass 4000 before lol

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Just turning off my uncore oc

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Lemme pass 4000 so eeasily lol

sterile flame
signal belfry
sterile flame
signal belfry
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On a 3090 fe

sterile flame
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3090 tho

signal belfry
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Basically the same thing, 3080 + 10

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=3090

sterile flame
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Not same thing

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3090 has like 1k core more

signal belfry
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Well 3080 core + 1k

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Yea imma go back to gaming

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Ram doesn’t want to post 4400

zenith palm
mental turret
sudden torrent
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The sad thing is that 3080 is scoring the same as my gigatrash 3090 did. So glad I got rid of that.

lavish tundra
signal belfry
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How bad were the scores on it

lavish tundra
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smh my head

signal belfry
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Scores

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Like 16k

lavish tundra
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I dunno what his 3080 scores

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ask him why u asking me

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smh

signal belfry
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U the only guy in this chat

lavish tundra
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Ok im done joking around

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I honestly dont remember

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but it was a garbage 3090

signal belfry
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I’m going back to google

lavish tundra
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also hes talking his 3090 oced vs his 3080 oced

signal belfry
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Oh

lavish tundra
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so avg scores are meaningless here

signal belfry
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Maybe a capacitor popped off his 3090 lol

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Like the gigabombs

lavish tundra
icy hare
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Bomb has been planted

sudden torrent
sudden torrent
zenith palm
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2x8pin 3090 momen

potent fiber
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3090 hype moment anyways. kekleo

kind walrus
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Pfft what is that gif kek

potent fiber
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It's called shellshock

kind walrus
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No the cat warpedemote

zenith palm
kind walrus
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Hahahaha

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Why is this a trend

potent fiber
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lmao. That cat has* seen some sh...stuff.

icy hare
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he's coming down pretty hard from the catnip

restive cargo
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Lol

restive cargo
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How many Wild Theo's came out?

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Dam UPS guy stole em.

zenith palm
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Sheesh

short blade
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is there any way to disable spread spectrum on msi pro z690-a? not seeing it in bios

night grail
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nice

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ln2 when

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you US based?

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you should come to our country cup meet this year

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will be in december

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we always have a blast

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since i hosted the may meet i didnt have the funds to go to cali

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yeah forks and yos taught me last november at country cup

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pic from last years country cup

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was pretty chill

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yos pulled it together

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got intel and international computer concepts to sponsor it

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yeah but thats for product launches where we bench their stuff

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not for CC

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at least to my understanding

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november 1st to end of year

night grail
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new launches are always banned for CC

sudden torrent
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They word the terms specifically to include only certain hardware in each tier

signal belfry
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Looks really fun tho

tall pelican
night grail
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It has to be out for a while before it is allowed to ensure all counties and regions have a fair chance of acquiring the hardware

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Typically a time of about one year since launch is required before they allow hardware in country cup

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Like last year 30 series was banned for country cup despite having been launched for more than a year since not all regions and people had a fair chance at owning ampere

mental turret
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Ill see you there B)

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oh god

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he's gonna inject me with experimental insulin while im not paying attention

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💀

restive cargo
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See this is why I don't attend bench meets.

night grail
mental turret
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yea only forks drugs people

night grail
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ehhh when we were in illinois they got the dispensaries lol

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i bought some gummy bears to OC with

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i was chillin big time doing BCLK valids with my z97

proven canopy
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Encouraging brutus to try eating a fruit for once does not count as "drugging people"

night grail
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how much plastic stuff did brutus destroy at asus HQ with ln2?

proven canopy
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just regular hardware I think, and the monitor I was using for benching somehow just from being in proximity

still crystal
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does anyone know what his error is when I try logging into my HWBot account from my 3dmark account?

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I couldn't share the whole image cause it included my username AND password in the error

sudden torrent
sudden torrent
still crystal
proven canopy
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Wow, droq1-419 were all taken?

sudden torrent
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Yeah looks like an issue with hwbot's cert

scenic vine
steep harbor
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Can someone help me overclock my i7 12700k?

mortal shadow
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It's already a pretty fast chip why oc

steep harbor
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Its at 3.6ghz

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Max boost is 5 why not put it there

mortal shadow
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here with ks but no oc

proven canopy
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But why

signal belfry
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Y’all wasting cash if u don’t oc it

#

Imo

#

Assuming your cooling is decent there’s no point to run it at stock

signal belfry
#

Some people say recommended for alder lake is 1.35v or below

#

U could just run a higher llc if your clock isn’t stable

night grail
#

He went to the meet I hosted in may and the recent meet in California

icy hare
#

first thing I did when I got my 12600k was boost the clock

#

you're paying extra for performance but just leaving it on the table. Makes no sense

proven canopy
#

You'll run out of ambient cooling before you run into dangerous voltage on ADL, at least for benching.

zenith palm
signal belfry
#

His board is also a b chip

#

Said he bought the i9 for 200

#

Pretty good deal

#

I feel like that cooler isn’t really enough tho

kind walrus
#

You can trust your feelings on that one lol

zenith palm
barren ridge
#

Makes me doubt he actually has 9900ks

lavish tundra
#

yeah

barren ridge
#

Otherwise it would've throttled so hard

mortal shadow
#

Maybes the board limited how much wattage it can take

#

It's in the 75c to 90c range in gaming

signal belfry
#

What is that emoji 💀

#

💀

barren ridge
dusky tinsel
#

So for people who use AMD I have the 6800XT card and I use AMD Adrenalin Edition to change the fan curve on my graphics card to keep it cooler. I don't overclock the thing but I keep getting amd wattman crash due to unexpected system failure but it only happens when I alter the fan curve I been looking it up but no answer. Like I said I don't do anything else just change the curve why is it doing that.

proven canopy
#

Why do you need the card to run cooler

#

Do you enjoy the noise?

digital dirge
scenic vine
#

I would use fanControl for fan control

sterile flame
#

HWInfo I think has a fan control plugin.

barren ridge
#

doesn't work for anything

#

only some supported stuff works

proven canopy
mental turret
#

kill me now

rose bison
#

Best Skylake X cpu for gaming?

rose bison
#

cascade lake 10900x best x299??

cold jolt
mental turret
#

Yea if you don't already have the parts, you should go with 12th Gen or wait for 13th gen/ryzen 7000

scenic vine
#

Or SPR stonks1

keen sail
#

What do you guys think a good overclock would be for a 3060

#

I have a 5800x and a 850W PSU

zenith palm
#

Just see what you can do, I'd say a good timespy score would be 9700 graphics points in timespy

proven canopy
#

Team cup has started!

mental turret
#

my gdie by early october:

short blade
#

anyone know how to work with SA GV on tiger lake?

mental turret
mental turret
#

@lavish tundra

sterile flame
#

Hello guys are there any softwares you can recommend to OC RAM or do you guys always use the motherboard BIOS settings? I would like to get the best performance possible out of my RAM but am a novice. Would love recommendations or any help.

dull ginkgo
lavish tundra
sudden torrent
#

I'd guess he's looking for your comments on the g-die ln2 overclocking

lavish tundra
#

My comment is that it looks cool

#

literally

#

heh

modern walrus
zenith palm
#

Dies

digital dirge
#

Witchcraft?

modern walrus
digital dirge
modern walrus
#

ya but both only running pcores

#

so both considered 8x CPU

digital dirge
#

Oh ok

#

Well then... rommy sucks.

#

:P

modern walrus
#

lol it's probably that new ycruncher better or something

modern walrus
#

si

#

(yes)

#

nice? what do you mean? you're supposed to be talking crap

#

lol

#

do 12700Ks have AVX512?

zenith palm
#

Only older ones

modern walrus
#

ah right

zenith palm
#

Or unless they where put into board with micro code update

modern walrus
#

EVGA Dork lets you change to older microcode thing

#

has the option for like "latest" & uh I forget

#

so "[not latest]"

zenith palm
#

It can reverse the micro code?

modern walrus
#

I forget what I said lol

modern walrus
#

then it did once I changed the setting

zenith palm
modern walrus
#

yes I believe so

#

thank you lol

zenith palm
modern walrus
#

lol I put that there cuz it was the stupidest thing I could come up with

modern walrus
modern walrus
#

lol

#

what??

#

you have forks role?

#

not cool

modern walrus
#

sounds more like ya thx

scenic vine
potent fiber
knotty lake
#

👀

night grail
#

i need forks to give me the spoon role

#

@proven canopy you know you want to lol

mental turret
#

sus

night grail
#

no, lol

#

besides he is way taller than me doesnt work out good

#

but if were going off of cutlery i need a spoon role and someone needs a knife role

scenic vine
#

Tenderizer role?

signal belfry
#

sporks?

sudden torrent
#

That implies a fusion of forks and spoons that I'm not ready to accept

lavish tundra
wind prairie
#

Would bdie be optimal for 12th gen overclocking

zenith palm
#

B die, rev e/b used to be a good budget choice although nothing really new (in the us anyway) anymore, hynix ddr5

proven canopy
mental turret
#

Best ddr4 over clocking board on lga1700 is the a-pro something right?

#

🤓

cold jolt
#

wtf far no longer techie??

#

what is this

mental turret
#

I'm picking up that maximus 6 hero soon

mental turret
cold jolt
#

kinda cringe

mental turret
#

No more yellow pee role

cold jolt
#

pee pee role best

cold jolt
mental turret
#

Yea

proven canopy
#

Strix d4 is good

#

Maybe even the best

mental turret
#

Ah alright

kind walrus
#

See I thought that too looking at the results shortly after 12th gen dropped but then everyone told me I was wrong

#

I'm glad to see someone else agrees that the strix does well and that I seemed to be on the money for that one

proven canopy
#

You want to bench on ddr5 most of the time though

kind walrus
#

Ofc but still, I feel validated rn and it's only 7am theri_smirk_apng

scenic vine
#

Wait 4 Z790

proven canopy
#

Especially given the current options of z690 boards, though a $500 dark isn't awful

kind walrus
#

I'm not buying one now, but I nearly did 9 months ago

hollow sluice
#

Can I overclock my 3200MHZ CL16 ram on a H610M-G motherboard? or should i get a B660 motherboard?

kind walrus
#

Should only be able to run the stock supported speed on it afaik

#

What cpu are you using?

hollow sluice
#

i3 12100F

kind walrus
#

You bought all of it yet?

hollow sluice
#

no i am going to go sunday

kind walrus
#

Yeah even if you got a b660, you won't get more than 3600 in gear 1 with even decent ram

#

Not exactly worth doing, let alone on a 12100f at that

#

Reason is they lock the IMC voltage down on non-K chips which you need it higher to go faster

marble marlin
hollow sluice
#

so should i get a H610 ?

kind walrus
#

You can with a 12100F

#

How much is the pc in total?

hollow sluice
#

60,000

#

or u can tell $800

kind walrus
#

Php? Idr?

#

Baht?

hollow sluice
#

60,000 rupee

kind walrus
#

Ah

#

Yeah that seems like a decent choice considering

hollow sluice
#

is 3200 on a B660 better or 3200 on a H610

kind walrus
#

Same thing

hollow sluice
#

Oooo

#

ok i will get the H610 so i can overclocking it and use that money on my GPU

#

tysm

kind walrus
#

As I said before

hollow sluice
#

yea what is afaik

kind walrus
#

As far as I know

#

I.e 2133, 2400, 2666, 2933 or 3200

kind walrus
#

Not worth paying premium for ram when the platform itself is basically ideal at 3200-3600 to begin with

hollow sluice
#

man i dont know what u mean gear1 and IMC

kind walrus
#

IMC is the memory controller, what talks to the ram

#

Gear 1 is the speed

#

Gear 1 is the fastest, gear 2 is significantly slower

hollow sluice
#

OK i get it

kind walrus
#

Over 3600, the chip will likely want gear 2

#

Which makes it mostly not worth it

hollow sluice
#

will i be able to use my 3200 ram on a H610 on a speed of 3200?

kind walrus
#

I think so

hollow sluice
#

ok

#

tysm

kind walrus
#

Np

faint tangle
#

H610s can run xmp

kind walrus
#

3200 is a stock jedec speed no?

dull ginkgo
#

Jedec 3200 is 3200c20, should be able to run the 3200c16 or whatever xmp it has

kind walrus
#

Hmm ok

dull ginkgo
faint tangle
#

oh weird

dull ginkgo
#

theres 20-20-20 22-22-22 and 24-24-24 afaik

potent fiber
#

Just wiki, but yea:

proven canopy
proven canopy
kind walrus
#

new cooler today, gained 10C headroom on my 12900KF blob_bounce

#

hopefully enough for 5.3p 4.0e I hope

#

i hope i hope i hope

#

keep forgetting it's 1 less on ADL, 5.2e kek

#

YESSSSS

#

YESSSSSSS

#

5.2 LESS GOOOO

#

5.3?

#

nvm it's peaking 95 now

#

le oof

#

295W DAMMIT

#

hmmmm thinking_spin

#

whooaaa

#

my gpu gained 15C now that it's horizontal

#

didn't expect that with a waterblock

kind walrus
#

4.1e not crashing poggies

kind walrus
#

4.2e crashing but which tile PES_Suspicious

kind walrus
#

2089 ST 29573 MT R23 single runs

zenith palm
kind walrus
#

OMG

#

29892

#

COME ONNNN

kind walrus
#

29961!!!

mental turret
#

what are you trying to beat?

#

30k?

kind walrus
#

ye

mental turret
#

you'll get there ez

kind walrus
#

I'm 39 points away

#

if I can get ring to 4.5 I think I'll get it

#

nah didn't like it

proven canopy
#

r23? Ring shouldn't matter too much

#

Nor will memory. Run it through benchmate, set priority

kind walrus
#

yes it isn't doing much but it gave me a little bit more like 100 points

#

could be run to run variance tho

#

memory I've left alone

#

WTF

#

29999

#

FU-

#

WHAT

#

This chip is trolling

mental turret
#

LOL

proven canopy
#

up bclk by .1 mhz

kind walrus
#

I could

#

I have the bclk controller ready but ima try again

#

ok went down ima bump bclk

#

I went down rozapanik

#

reeeeee

#

maybe a touch more voltage

#

hmmm

#

bclk down 0.1 gets me just as close as 29999

kind walrus
#

YESSSSSSS

#

YAAAAASSSSSSS

#

AAAAAA

#

I took the case panels off and I gained 1 point (No it didn't help but I got it kek )

#

so 5.5 1p-4p 5.2 8p 4.3 4e-4.1 8e 4.5 ring

#

100.5 bclk 1.33V

#

hopefully can stabilise it fully later, seemed fine in OCCT

#

will prolly end up losing a fair bit tho lol

ancient bridge
#

I cant imagine how much power that thing draws

kind walrus
ancient bridge
sudden torrent
#

Not with that attitude it won't

safe belfry
#

Can you undervolt regular consumer laptops

#

in a typical situation

safe belfry
#

Ignore above, I've undervolted -80 mV on my CPU

#

Should I check any of these to get even more battery life out of my laptop

zenith palm
modern walrus
#

gosh I wish @proven canopy would stream his bench sessions for us plebs

winter hull
#

ye forks i'm bored

sudden torrent
#

I'm rather disappointed. Memory overclocking isn't nearly as good on my "new" X570 board. I'm putting a fan on my memory and just sending 1.6v because I can, and I can still barely do 3800 14-16-15.

#

Before I could do 14-13-13 at 1.52v with super tight secondaries

proven canopy
#

Surprising that's a board limit. Could have to do with agesa/bios. Post a zentimings

sudden torrent
#

I will once I get it dialed in. It's on the latest bios, I got it that way from the service center. At least it's still easy to do 1900 fclk.

#

You know how long it can take to dial in settings from scratch lol

kind walrus
#

Which board?

sudden torrent
#

Gaming edge WiFi

kind walrus
#

Ah yeah

#

You had before?

sudden torrent
#

X470 gaming plus

kind walrus
#

Interesting

sudden torrent
#

This edge is essentially the updated version of my previous board, similar in most ways except added WiFi and PCIe 4

kind walrus
#

Maybe just go back to X470 cos those boards aren't bad in the scheme of it

#

Then take the 570 back

sudden torrent
#

I can't, this is a RMA replacement

kind walrus
#

Oh

#

Le oof

sudden torrent
#

They also didn't send me the m.2 heatsink, IO shield, WiFi antennae, or backplate weggSad

kind walrus
#

Ehhhh

#

You need the antennae at least

#

Wait the x570 had a backplate?

sudden torrent
#

Tbf I use wired to connect to a router bridge

kind walrus
sudden torrent
#

And Bluetooth doesn't need the antenna

kind walrus
#

Can you push fclk higher?

#

It's a 5800x ye?

#

I ask cos single ccd

sudden torrent
#

I was able to do 2000 stable back when I was testing it but there were WHEA errors

kind walrus
#

1933?

sudden torrent
#

I could test again with the newer agesa and board but eh, barely worth it

kind walrus
#

3866 14-16-15 might be a bit quicker than 3800-14 13 13

sudden torrent
#

Once I get things figured out I'll consider it but this is all very time consuming

kind walrus
#

Yea RAM is lol

mental turret
#

I got some ram today but couldnt bin it because my board is currently dead lol

#

Not on a great PCB but it was cheap

sudden torrent
#

Not a bad set all things considered

mental turret
#

Well yea it's not bad, that's why I still got it

#

Wouldnt be surprised if it cant do 1T though

#

Im gonna expect something like 2200C8-10-8 2T at best lol

scenic vine
#

I was late to the ddr3 scene so most ics I had were 4gbit, not the best performers

#

N4B and M4E weren't too bad, significantly worse than some S2D I had though

mental turret
#

I pretty much only have 1gbit ddr3 dimms

#

I only use ddr3 for benching/overclocking except for whats in my server + some extra dimms

potent fiber
#

was gonna mention how old that must be to be 2GB dimms, then found the 1st newegg of em in Oct 2009. Pog

mental turret
#

Yea 2010 isnt super old for these dimms relatively speaking

potent fiber
#

Not at all, just old in the sense as a comparison to my dual rank 8GB dimms from around 2017. I sure like Kingston spec sheets. of course it's nothin too special, haven't* tried to OC at all. -- bit of a Kingston fan. My E8400 rig had khx8500 (micron D9GKX dies) oc'd to 1250ish, the good ol days. Pog

winter hull
#

I've been away for a bit... for ddr4 I've got some old A0 from 2015, if I'm looking at some higher frequency stuff does anyone have some recommendations? A2 or is there better stuff out?

zenith palm
#

And honestly would look used especially in NA for b die because it just feels wasteful now that good ddr5 is a thing

winter hull
zenith palm
#

just push down timings 🤷‍♂️

winter hull
#

running CL 12 already

tall pelican
#

I have some A0 se4 that does 4400+ MildPanic

#

and bdie that does 4k+

proven canopy
#

3600 sounds more like a board issue

#

Especially when the sticks can do 3600cl12

winter hull
#

Ahh what's the best memory though?

proven canopy
#

Best? Single rank? Maybe the 4800c17 bin, dual rank, unsure, maybe something 4000c14

#

Do you really need the best ddr4 for daily?

scenic vine
#

Even those bins have a pretty wide margin with binning

winter hull
#

Yeah looks like a 4000 c16 or c14 kit probably have the best odds

faint tangle
#

Highest score I've managed but haven't been able to get close again with the right system info

scenic vine
#

Go yeet

open iron
#

guys can i run my r7 5700g at 4.5 ghz at 1.343v?

#

all core

#

cuz i just realized that my cpu temp are high and i under volt abit

digital dirge
scenic vine
#

I wouldn't particularly suggest running all core on zen 3, pbo will usually provide better results

proven canopy
#

Also with the benefit of knowing the chip won't degrade itself

proven canopy
winter hull
#

forks i'm bored stream 😄

amber rapids
#

Does anyone know where to find info on how to start overclockibg?

night grail
#

what are you wanting to OC specifically

#

id recommend you join the overclocking discord server, there are a bunch of guys who are willing to help you

proven canopy
amber rapids
#

Thx

mental turret
night grail
#

it can be at times

#

but if your looking for just help they typically can point you in a starting direction

mental turret
#

fair enough

steady lance
#

I have been thinking about OCing my RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra and was wonder if anyone could give me some tips and tricks on doing so.

#

My current temps peak at about 56c during load.

zenith palm
#

Download msi afterburner and 3d mark timespy (demo on steam) to test. drag the power slider as far as it lets you start upping core by like +60 then run timespy til crash, dial back 15 til stable then when core oc is good, double check with a heavy game for like 15 mins. Then for memory do like +800 then up in 50's til you loose points, then dial back til you're not loosing graphics points in your timespy runs and you can adjust in increments in 5 if you want but i just do 25, then save the profile and set msi afterburner to startup on boot.

#

Also set a better fan profile than stock usually

steady lance
scenic vine
#

This might help

zenith palm
steady lance
#

Just did +100 core and +500 mem. 🤞 it works.

#

So far noticing a +25-35 fps difference.

steady lance
#

So far pretty stable.

#

Will try upping the core clock a bit more.

zenith palm
#

Thats pretty conservative

steady lance
#

Okay so this is what I noticed.

#

+100 core is stable.

#

+110 doesn't crash the GPU but freezes my screen.

#

Gonna try upping memory next.

proven canopy
steady lance
proven canopy
#

It's two 12900k pcores with no ecores, but yes

#

Locked multi, so you have to bclk oc

steady lance
#

There are boards that support dual 12900K?

proven canopy
proven canopy
steady lance
#

So 16P cores?

#

Ohhh, do you mean you only used 2 P-cores?

#

and disabled all other cores?

proven canopy
#

12900k's have 8 golden cove cores, 8 gracemont cores. g7400 has two golden cove cores

#

I meant it's the same architecture

steady lance
#

Oh okay.

#

That makes a lot more sense.

mental turret
#

x79 smashes it though

proven canopy
#

Let's bench our dailies

mental turret
#

bet

#

I win: you pay me $20/hr at forkslabs
I lose: you pay me $25/hr at forkslabs

proven canopy
#

I can't really think of a bench that I'd lose...

scenic vine
#

Faraway making easy money

open iron
proven canopy
#

potato rig

open iron
mental turret
sand whale
#

how do i undervolt/power limit my laptop GPU

#

my computer is overheating and some games are getting more fps then others and my computers is a msi

sudden torrent
sand whale
sudden torrent
#

Yes

sand whale
#

ok thx

#

it says throttlestop is already running wen it not

sand whale
#

oh it works now

#

any opinion for setting for it

sudden torrent
#

Settings will vary by your laptop model and even chip bin

sand whale
#

whats a chip bin

sudden torrent
#

Short version: luck of the silicon lottery
Long version: different chips of the same model are capable of doing the same settings but at different voltages, what works on one at 1.21V another can do at 1.15V

sand whale
#

ok

sudden torrent
#

The reason is micro imperfections in the silicon, the more imperfections the more voltage it requires

sand whale
#

im so lost im new to computers

sudden torrent
#

When you're undervolting go a little at a time, running a stress test to see if it stays stable

sand whale
#

ok

#

i kinda get it

sand whale
sudden torrent
#

I haven't seen that specific one but I'm sure it'll help at least

sand whale
#

ok

#

do you have any recommendations on tutorials

sudden torrent
sand whale
#

thx

mental turret
#

it also helps my laptop overheat slower when it decides to turn itself on while sitting in my bag 🗿

steady lance
#

Still OCing but so far doing +135 Core and +710 mem on my 3070.

#

Stable.

#

Temps are within perfectly good ranges.

steady lance
#

Now doing +145 core, +710 mem stable.

#

Gonna try and see if I can do +175 core tomorrow.

kind walrus
# steady lance Now doing +145 core, +710 mem stable.

Ampere works in 15Mhz steps, so you'll be doing +150 actually
Offsets also are temperature dependent, so if the card is a few degrees warmer, then the boost curve will be adjusted down to account for the extra heat, which can mean you'll still be doing +135

#

Also, undervolting with a custom curve you should have a look at doing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUkPAVcb9Xc

steady lance
#

As far as heat goes, my GPU is only around 67c under load so far.

steady lance
#

Is +170 core stable good?

#

So far no issues.

zenith palm
#

Depends on what card

zenith palm
steady lance
#

It seems 175+ core is what I can do stable.

sudden torrent
#

Before and after install of the new cooler, temps and frequency at the bottom. I held a whole 250MHz higher average at 18 degrees cooler.

#

And it's quiet as a whisper, can't hear it over my gpu

trail tartan
#

Overclocked my news app uwu

sudden torrent
#

You must have a lot of interests

#

Wow I ran cinebench and didn't get past 70C, got a whole 200 extra points. I hit 90 before. Finally I won't throttle playing War Thunder.

trail tartan
#

I wish. Just some memory leak I assume.

sudden torrent
#

Yeah it's a common issue, I just uninstall the default apps like that

short blade
sudden torrent
#

Fractal said it couldn't be done. I took it as a challenge.

mental turret
#

anything is possible

#

that looks sick btw

sudden torrent
#

It's holding steady at 80-81 in p95 smallfft stonks

#

It immediately hit thermal limit at 90 when I started the test before

zenith palm
#

420mm i hope 😤

zenith palm
sudden torrent
zenith palm
#

Sad

#

Cuz it looks a tad odd without the front lol

sudden torrent
#

I know, that's the most distinguishing feature of this case besides the top mounted PSU. Sad indeed.

#

On the bright side I'm not thermal throttling in games now

steady lance
#

Are you using the e-atx version of the fractal?

sudden torrent
#

It's the Torrent

short blade
#

i can't help but feel like you've defeated the purpose of buying the torrent

ancient bridge
#

How far u think i can push a 5800x with a 360aio

ancient bridge
#

Wow 5.9 ghz without ln2

proven canopy
#

That is on ln2 - they just didnt' bother filling out that field

ancient bridge
#

Ahh ok

#

I was gonna say

#

Danm

proven canopy
#

I could maybe see a chip doing 32m 5.9 on dry ice or something, idk

#

Probably not

ancient bridge
#

Should i just use pbo or automatic oc

#

I guess since im still new manuel oc

kind walrus
#

PBO+CO

ancient bridge
#

Ok thx

#

Yea i was using that for a bit but my cooler wasnt great lol

#

Part of the reason why i bought an aio

proven canopy
#

For daily - yes, absolutely pbo+co, for trying to get an r20 score - you're probably better off with a fixed core and voltage - it's up to you how much voltage you want to run.