building-and-recc-chat

[untold vessel]

trulyyyyyyyyyy nothing?

or like

negligible nothing

[mossy venture]

at this point, nothing

[untold vessel]

sweet

alrighty last step

should I swap the PSU

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kt9vqm

Final list^

[mossy venture]

if you happen to be interested

[untold vessel]

tysm

[mossy venture]

theres $700 3080 12gb on evga b stck

and $650 10gb

[fossil cedar]

Np

[untold vessel]

ooooooooooh

Pato should I

[mossy venture]

also $520 3070

[untold vessel]

Well hold on

[fossil cedar]

Would spring for the 3070 definitely, 3080 depends although i would

[untold vessel]

Hmmmmm

I DO like that $520 3070

[mossy venture]

3080, you might want an 850w psu

[untold vessel]

But quite honestly do I need it

[mossy venture]

g6 would be a good option

[untold vessel]

What do I really get with it

[mossy venture]

you get a good bit better gaming perf

[untold vessel]

How much?

Any personal accounts?

I trust those more honestly

[fossil cedar]

3080 over 3070?

[untold vessel]

3060ti currently in the build vs $520 3070

[fossil cedar]

3070s about 10% better

[untold vessel]

hm

wait isnt msrp 3070 $5000

$500*

[fossil cedar]

Yeq

[mossy venture]

3080 12gb is about 15% better than 3070

[untold vessel]

oh god give me that link rn I'll add it

[mossy venture]

https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=8&associatecode=SG6LFX7LRLICR2Y

you have to scroll down for it

[untold vessel]

Oh hey the $59.99 aio is back!

Should I get it instead of the deepcool thing?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

i highly recommend the clc

[mossy venture]

clc?

ye, might have to replace fans with p14s tho

[untold vessel]

Good GOD these deals are INCREDIBLE

What's the difference between these two?

[obsidian wigeon]

dem psu deals

[obsidian wigeon]

makes me wanna get one

non lhr version

look at the very last text

[mossy venture]

like the n1, right?

[untold vessel]

And for $10 more should I get these?

[obsidian wigeon]

ew no not the n1

[mossy venture]

you sure? its only $20

[obsidian wigeon]

tbh for same price

non lhr cause why not

you can mine on the side

get some free bucks

[untold vessel]

hell yeah lmfao

seriously though why are lhr and non lhr going for the same price

and should I get the rgb for $10 more?

[obsidian wigeon]

cause lhr isn't relevant anymore

it's been broken

tbh i like no rgb

but 10 more is tempting

very tempting

[untold vessel]

Bro????

MSRP 3070 on one of EVGA's RGB FTW models?!!?!?

Huh?!?!

[mossy venture]

3070 ti isnt really worth it

[obsidian wigeon]

3070ti doesn't have no lhr version btw

[untold vessel]

Should I spring?

[obsidian wigeon]

also nope

[potent portal]

70 ti isn't worth it over 70

[obsidian wigeon]

get 3070

[mossy venture]

its just a hotter higher power usage 3070

[untold vessel]

Wait what

Oh jeez fr?

[obsidian wigeon]

3070ti sucks compared to 3070

hotter, hungrier

for only 2-3% gain

[mossy venture]

arguably the second worst price/perf 30 series gpu

[obsidian wigeon]

how about 3060ti?

[untold vessel]

man you guys are awesome all 3 of you sprung on that

[potent portal]

The only real difference with the 70 ti is they put GDDR6X but it can't really use the extra bandwidth anyway

[untold vessel]

So to sum things up get the bottom one?

[obsidian wigeon]

it's only benefit for mining

but by how much? probably not a lot

[untold vessel]

what's the only benefit

[obsidian wigeon]

well more hashrate i guess lmao

both are the same cards

top has lhr ofc

[untold vessel]

basically is the bottom better than this

[obsidian wigeon]

no

[untold vessel]

this^

[obsidian wigeon]

identical

[potent portal]

Slightly easier to mine on the non LHR because you don't need to worry about the unlocker

[obsidian wigeon]

^

and driver

[untold vessel]

oh no mining will be done here

I'm paying $10 for flashy lights

[obsidian wigeon]

i would do non lhr rgb one

[untold vessel]

Why so?

[obsidian wigeon]

well easier to mine with

[untold vessel]

Oh no mining will be done

[obsidian wigeon]

i can game and mine overnight ya know

[untold vessel]

Welllllllllll now that you say that

[obsidian wigeon]

a pc can stay running 24/7 no issues

[untold vessel]

hmmmmmmmmmmm

[obsidian wigeon]

it's not much but side cash

[untold vessel]

How do we mine in the first place? Always known about it, never learned how to do it

[obsidian wigeon]

you're still free to use the gpu normally

just only do it at night

[mossy venture]

atm its kinda worthless with eth on life support

[untold vessel]

wait do we GET crypto with mining or do we just make money with it

[obsidian wigeon]

we do get the crypto

then we have to sell that said crypto

[forest briar]

Rommy heard me talk yesterday

[untold vessel]

Like do we sell out our electricity to other companies who remotely control our gpus for power? How does it work?

[forest briar]

[obsidian wigeon]

um no

[fossil cedar]

2nd one is non lhr, not like it matters anymore tho

[untold vessel]

Because if we GET the crypto, then I'm hoarding it until 2030 when eth goes back up

[obsidian wigeon]

the algorithm gives out rewards in cryptocurrency

the mining algorithm

[fossil cedar]

Worth

[potent portal]

That's more similar to protein folding

[fossil cedar]

[untold vessel]

Get it rn?

I'm about to do it guys

[fossil cedar]

Yeah I'd get the ftw3

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[untold vessel]

Doing it!@

[fossil cedar]

Might as well get the fhr version

It's fine

[untold vessel]

fhr?

what's fhr

[fossil cedar]

Non lhr

[untold vessel]

oh sweet

okay doing it

wait pato quick question

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gvGbt6/deepcool-ak620-wh-6899-cfm-cpu-cooler-ak620-wh

VS

[fossil cedar]

Not for 12600k

[untold vessel]

are BOTH of these overkill?

[fossil cedar]

I'd grab the 280

No

12600k is toasty

[untold vessel]

so in other words get the CLC 280

I missed that sale on amazon

thank god evga directly has it

[fossil cedar]

I would

Keep in mind tho

It's b stock only 1 year warranty

[untold vessel]

What is b stock anyways

Should've asked that question a WHILE ago when i first saw it 2 years ago

[mossy venture]

its evga refurbished, a lot of the products are either barely used or open box

[untold vessel]

oooooh shoot i thought they were new

[potent portal]

Not refurbished, but yes open box

[mossy venture]

ah

[untold vessel]

well new would be ridiculous

oh okay

well, who am I to complain, let's DO this

[potent portal]

The most major difference is they might have less warranty

[untold vessel]

Honestly not that I would do this but If i were feeling devious I could just claim the warrantee and use it to finance part of a 4070 later down the line

[mossy venture]

the 1650s i bought off them has been working for someone in this server perfectly fine so far

since april

and ive got a psu on the way from b stock too

[fossil cedar]

Rommy stop your dollarinos gaining value pls

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-enough-fed-up-alright-sick-and-tired-gif-22915800

[untold vessel]

wait tf

isnt a euro at least 1.3 a USD

what happened

[untold vessel]

last time i checked it was at least

So the euro is losing its value?

[rich void]

Currencies bounce around

[fossil cedar]

Dollar is gaining

[untold vessel]

I figured, just didn't realize it lost 25%, whew

eh? Dollar is GAINING?

[fossil cedar]

Apparently

[untold vessel]

I thought we were losing

whew, this is something else

ah, that's what I was thinking of, thank you!

[fossil cedar]

Hasn't been 1.3 for at least 5 years probably

[untold vessel]

Alrighty guys I'm doing it

Do you see ANY problems with this guys

I'm going to do it

the big kahuna

omg do tell more

[fossil cedar]

Last time 1€ was 1.3$ was 2014

[elfin flame]

8IT954OVFQ17LN9

Copy paste that into checkout where it says associate code.

[untold vessel]

BRO

[mossy venture]

gives like 5% off or smthn

[potent portal]

Time to ban rommy

[mossy venture]

3%?

[untold vessel]

that is awesome

[mossy venture]

a few % anyways

[untold vessel]

Are there better associate codes?

do those exist?

[potent portal]

You're right, I'm mobile only while my mobo is in RMA and it's too much work

[untold vessel]

alrighty folks

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gDfCFg

Final build

Is there ANYTHING that I can improve on

[mossy venture]

looks good

[half mural]

You cannot do this action on this user due to role hierarchy.

[mossy venture]

you said you need wifi on the motherboard?

or no

[untold vessel]

yes yes

wifi needed 100%

[mossy venture]

kk

[untold vessel]

Should I get a different psu?

[thorn merlin]

Is this Monitor for a rtx 3060 and Intel i5-12400 Good

LG UltraGear 27GN600-B
68,5cm (27") FHD IPS Monitor HDMI/DP 144Hz 1ms FreeSync ++ Cyberport

https://www.cyberport.de/pc-und-zubehoer/monitore/lg-electronics/pdp/6105-3c4/lg-ultragear-27gn600-b-68-5cm-27-fhd-ips-monitor-hdmi-dp-144hz-1ms-freesync.html

[untold vessel]

guys evga is broken?

All my cards can't be authenticated

There's no way this is a me problem

and fixes?

Which

[rich void]

Can always contact EVGA support if the issue is their site

[thorn merlin]

what would you buy if it was the same price?

https://www.cyberport.de/pc-und-zubehoer/monitore/gigabyte/pdp/6122-10m/gigabyte-g24f-61cm-23-8-fhd-ips-gaming-monitor-hdmi-dp-165hz-1ms-freesync-hdr.html

Or this

https://www.cyberport.de/gaming/gaming-monitore/lg-electronics/pdp/6105-3dd/lg-ultragear-24gn600-b-60-4cm-23-8-fhd-ips-monitor-hdmi-dp-usb-144hz-1ms-hdr.html

[spring hedge]

Guys is the lian li lancool 2 mesh compatible with https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09PXD16F6?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[olive cypress]

From factor? Yes

[strong raft]

Of course something will fit in something else that's larger. Matx is the "shorter" version of atx. Shorter as in height because they lose a couple pcie slotz mostly.

[earnest olive]

why not just use the pcpartpicker compatibility check

[olive cypress]

Maybe they doesn't use pcpp

[earnest olive]

look closer at the link

it's literally tagged with pcpartpicker api

[olive cypress]

Oh

[earnest olive]

💀

[olive cypress]

Lol

Then
Yes
Why not check if it is compatible?...

And of course it is

[earnest olive]

not necessarily

still needs to have the correct standoffs

take a look at how many atx mid tower cases are compatible with mini dtx

(1)

[olive cypress]

Usually cases have a good amount of standoffs (~9)

[strong raft]

Mini dtx, what 95+ % of people don't deal with. -- We could tell em their combo works instead of "use pcpp compat list" & correcting a minor general statement.

[earnest olive]

so?

[cyan ravine]

g24f, or alternatively, MSI G241/G242

[earnest olive]

you made a general statement

[strong raft]

[earnest olive]

there are even atx mid towers that don't support microatx boards

[strong raft]

So?

[earnest olive]

don't see why you think it's so funny to correct misinformation in a help channel but alright

[vague oracle]

Yes

[stuck juniper]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/WVdfFg
the items that are marked purchased are from newegg
im probably not gonna get gpu but its sexy

[agile briar]

Rx 6600, intel 12100f, Asus prime h610m-a, 2×corsair 3600MHz ram kingston A2000 500gb, seagate 2tb hdd, nzxt h510 elite, any cooler, any 144hz monitor how much will it cost?

[stuck juniper]

How much ram

[stuck juniper]

And why h510 elite

[olive cypress]

1000 with very good deals I guess....?

[cyan ravine]

That 3600 ram won't run at 3600 on that board

[olive cypress]

Save some money and go for simple 3200mhz

[cyan ravine]

Or use that money to get a better board than a h610 lol

Or ssd to an nvme

[olive cypress]

Probably

Anyway for that build 3600 ram is unnecessary

[mossy venture]

I would not buy most of this

What's your budget for the whole build, not including monitor?

[olive cypress]

I'd personally go 6600xt + 12400f (if that's in your budget good), main 1tb m.2, (4000d?) a B660, stock cooler is fine....

[agile briar]

its cool

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zLpJmr

[agile briar]

thanks

[mossy venture]

H510 elite is an absolute garbage can of a case

I wouldnt use it if someone paid me to

[manic kettle]

Hello

Still building mine a few more pieces and I start on tubes for cooling

[untold vessel]

Any recommendations on Budget 4k monitors? I cannot go 1080 or 1440

[mossy venture]

Budget and 4k do not go together

[untold vessel]

yeah its hard

really one or the other

budget 4k really equals poop

[mossy venture]

Also, 4k gaming on anything below 3080 12gb or 6800xt sucks

[untold vessel]

any less poopy ones?

[mossy venture]

No, because 4k panels are expensive

Especially if you want high refresh rate

[untold vessel]

person getting it refuses anything but 4k

beyond convincing

[rich void]

Budget and 4k don't really go together

[desert gulch]

Okay here we go

[mossy venture]

If they want 4k and high refresh rate

You're looking at $600 minimum

[untold vessel]

they want 4k 60hz

max is $300

can go slightly over

[mossy venture]

Then around $400 for a good quality monitor

[untold vessel]

maybe like max max 350

[untold vessel]

oh 400?

[desert gulch]

Rough graph

[untold vessel]

HAHAHA

[desert gulch]

Pick two of those points

You can only have two

[untold vessel]

Can always count on you

[rich void]

Uhhh have them get a gigabyte m27q and tell them 1440p 170hz is another way of saying 4k 60hz

[untold vessel]

Can't lie

I wish though

[mossy venture]

Ceraso please just tell them that you literally cannot see a difference between 4k and 2k on a 27 inch screen

[desert gulch]

How about this

Get them to load up a YouTube comparison of 1080/1440/4k on their current monitor to see if they can see a difference

Ifykyk

[mossy venture]

4k on 28in is weird, but yeah that works

[untold vessel]

does 4k 32in work

I was looking at the one, yes!!

[mossy venture]

Work is subjective

But sure

[untold vessel]

I remember you guys saying 32" minimum for 4k

[mossy venture]

What gpu do they have btw?

And are they gaming?

[desert gulch]

Tfw laptop 💀

[untold vessel]

this is the same build

[mossy venture]

Holup

[desert gulch]

17" 4k 💀

[untold vessel]

3070

[mossy venture]

My guy

[untold vessel]

yes

[mossy venture]

4k is Aids on a 3070

[untold vessel]

i figured

[mossy venture]

You'll be lucky to hit 45 fps in a lot of games

[untold vessel]

yeeeeeep

i did

he chose suffer

should i just get this one and call it a day honestly

[mossy venture]

Hes going to be begging for a different monitor when he's getting 60fps at low-medium settings

[untold vessel]

yeeeeeeeeeeep

anything i can do to make this suffering at least 1% better?

[mossy venture]

To not get him a 4k monitor

[untold vessel]

or is $280 for a 32" 4k monitor already pushing it to the max

[untold vessel]

I know, I know. I sat down and yelled at him, not even joking, threatened to build it by himself, which would be a catastrophe, so this is what we are stuck with

[viral ore]

ya kno, 1080p looks fine on a 4k monitor

watch 4k60 content, play 1080p games

[untold vessel]

precisely

[viral ore]

use DLSS sometimes

or whatever amds equivalent is

at 32"?

doesnt have to be that far back

like 2 ft

3

which is deep desk territory

of course, the nice thing about 4k is you can also get pretty close to it if need be

altho that probably doesnt apply here

[rich void]

Set everything to run at 1080p on the pc

[runic sandal]

Aaaaaaahhhh i can’t mount the 280mm rad at the top of me case because it doesn’t leave ram clearance

Pain

I have low profile ram I could use but then the trident z royal isn’t getting any use

[untold vessel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K9wZzf

Does anyone think that the current parts I haven't purchased yet could be swapped or improved?

Motherboard, RAM, Case, and PSU are up for upgrades / better value swaps

[mossy venture]

clc 280 is $50 now if you want to cancel that order

on amazon

not much of a diff though

and youre not paying $140 for that psu, right?

iirc it was $70 earlier, did price change or is it pcp being stupid

[untold vessel]

darn it, you're right, not getting it anymore I suppose

[untold vessel]

NOOOOOOOO

cancelling it

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dn8bt6/asus-tuf-gaming-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-tuf-gaming-650b this is fine if youre fine with non modular

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gnGbt6/evga-supernova-g6-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g6-0650-x1 otherwise this ig

[untold vessel]

Is 650 okay for this?

Should I not get a 750?

[mossy venture]

650 is fine, tho if you want a 750 id get this or the g6 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/J9drxr/evga-supernova-gt-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-gt-0750-y1

[untold vessel]

Hold on, didn't Ryan say something about which evga power supplies are good and not

[mossy venture]

gt is good

close to A tier

[untold vessel]

getting the gt then

just how much better is the g6 against the gt

[mossy venture]

im not 100% sure, but GT can handle transients fine

though 3070 doesnt give huge transients

[untold vessel]

can you give a rough estimate?

I don't know how to gauge good vs bad

[mossy venture]

not really much of an estimate for psus

[untold vessel]

hm

just more = better?

especially if its cheaper?

[mossy venture]

gt good, g6 better

is basically the best way i can put it

[untold vessel]

but how better

3070 to 3070ti better

or 3060 to chad 3060ti better

[mossy venture]

3070 to 3070 ti is negligible

3060 to 3060 ti is huge

[untold vessel]

so gt to g6

negligible or huge

or a little bit in between

[mossy venture]

kinda inbetween but id say its closer to negligble to huge

[untold vessel]

so therefore

for more watts

and less price

despite the difference

its a good deal

[cyan ravine]

https://amzn.asia/d/5Yku1B4

https://amzn.asia/d/hGuZsW9

A or B

*(Note: I may also consider A to use it without the rgb to hide the riser slot. This is also for a water-cooled card so it won't matter the orientation)

[dark nova]

The founders edition 3070 is looking tempting at 649

[rich void]

USD?

[dark nova]

Yeah

[rich void]

That shouldn't cost that much especially now

Where?

[dark nova]

Amazon

[rich void]

Well don't buy it there, it's a ripoff

Now that GPUs are plentiful nobody should be getting price-gouged

[untold vessel]

Other / Better case recommendations besides the g360a and 4000D, everyone?

[flint sapphire]

Meshify 2 c

[rich void]

p400a, lian li lancool ii mesh, p500a

[untold vessel]

g360a vs p400a

which do you think is better

[mossy venture]

Theyre very similar

[dark nova]

Can you link me where to get it?

[rich void]

Best Buy sells them, you can get other 3070s for less than 650 easily though

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nv2WGX/asus-geforce-rtx-3070-lhr-8-gb-dual-oc-v2-video-card-dual-rtx3070-o8g-v2

[rich void]

Another example: https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3751-KL

[still roost]

Aboocher19#9673 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dark nova]

Dang I did it again

[dark nova]

I think that might fit even with my aio on the front 👀

[mossy venture]

It's a dual fan, so it's likely

Do you know the clearance you have?

It's 267mm

[dark nova]

300mm according to Corsair but they don’t say if that’s with or without an aio on the front

[mossy venture]

What's the case?

[dark nova]

Corsair icue 220t airflow

[mossy venture]

And what aio?

[dark nova]

Corsair h115i

I think

[mossy venture]

Yeah it'll fit

Including aio, leaves just over 270mm for gpu

[dark nova]

Nice

[mossy venture]

So about 5mm extra room lol

[dark nova]

Plus that gpu looks to have a little rgb 👀

Plus it‘lol go well with my build being mostly Corsair/asus

Actually I think that’ll make it a intel/Corsair/asus build because my current gpu is msi

[mossy venture]

Asus or corsair cpu when

[dark nova]

Listen

Don’t attack me like that haha

[mossy venture]

Lol

[stoic yew]

lol

[dark nova]

But thank you froggo friend

[mossy venture]

Smthn I'd recc to keep in mind for future builds tho

Buying based off brand isn't a great idea

Corsairs aios are kinda overpriced

[dark nova]

Fair enough

[mossy venture]

And their ram is pretty garbo

[stoic yew]

I stick with Deepcool and MSI when it comes to AIOs.

[dark nova]

The h115i was a pretty fair price when I bought it

[mossy venture]

That's a fat rip

Lf2 and EK make some of the best AIOS

Msi has pretty bad aios as well, deep cool is meh

Lian li galahad for white aio

[stoic yew]

Msi and Deepcool been pretty good to me.

[mossy venture]

Remember when coreliquid v1 has pump failure :p

[stoic yew]

Becuase that was made by a third party, and not Asetek.

[dark nova]

What’s a too expensive price for a aio?

[mossy venture]

Depends on the size

Clc 280 is $50 rn

[stoic yew]

512 Dollars. Asus Ryujin II 360.

[dark nova]

It honestly felt like my h115i for 129 wasn’t terrible price. And my pc stays pretty dang cool

[mossy venture]

Is it the 360?

Or 280

[dark nova]

280

Cause that was recommended over a 360

[mossy venture]

That's alright, considering it's not an aio thats known for failing $130 is a fine price for it if you like the looks

If it were me, since I go for perf over looks, I'd get the lf2 360 at the same price

[dark nova]

I did accidentally buy mine without rgb fans so I had to order rgb fans 😅🤣

[dark nova]

Mine performs very good I will say

I’ve been neglecting on cleanup a bit but haven’t seen any temps get worse over time

Also on Amazon that gpu is being sold from Amazon themself for the 579.99

Should I trust that? It would be easier to order off of Amazon. But also hasn’t Amazon been known to resell returned items and not authenticate that it works fully?

[stoic island]

Best AIOs are non-asetek designs :p

Amazon typically fine

Asetek stifled innovation

[stoic yew]

So like Deepcool then :P

Deepcool uses their own pump design.

[stoic island]

Rn, best are freezer ii, Galahad, and ek-aio

Asetek are just average

[stoic yew]

Apparently DeepCools bbrand new AIO line is amazing. Looks good to

[stoic island]

Meh, not expecting much from them rn

Everyone says their new products are the best

We'll see as reviews come in

[stoic yew]

Reviews are saying they are great.

But I wouldnt know, I have a MSI S360 :p

[stoic island]

We'll have to see, just see kitguru's review

good for now

[stoic yew]

I plan to sell my current rig and build my first AMD rig soon <3

[marble whale]

for the am5 platform?

[stoic yew]

AM4

[marble whale]

ok

[stoic yew]

No way Im investing in DDR5

[marble whale]

if you wanna save a little the stock cooler is good

[stoic yew]

DeepCools AK400 is a good cheap cooler to

[marble whale]

i have a Ryzen 4600g and its been up for almost 6 day and its at a steady 43

running at 4.3

[stoic yew]

5700G is what Imma go with.

On a nice beautiful MSI X570S Ace Max board.

[marble whale]

my thumb drive isnt showing up in flie explorer it only shows up in disk mangigment and task manager any help?\

[stoic yew]

Needs reformatting maybe?

[marble whale]

tried that and disk man crashes

[stoic yew]

O-o wtf.

USB drive is toast then? I dunno

[marble whale]

Idk

Wtf windows

[stoic yew]

I think its toast. :O

Never seen that happen before

[marble whale]

i just baught it a week ago

installed an os on it also

[dark nova]

Hey froggy friend I ordered it 🤠

[stoic yew]

Hmm, it says to assign a letter to it.

@marble whale Have you tried giving the drive a letter? Might be the issue

[marble whale]

yes

i installed a os on it

[stoic yew]

I said Drive letter. Not reformat

I saw the command to change letter above it

[marble whale]

0.31

[stoic yew]

What?

[marble whale]

in the video

[stoic yew]

Dunno then. your USB is toast.

You got a bad USB drive

[marble whale]

i baught it a week ago

[stoic yew]

Still a bad drive then. Id get a refund

[odd brook]

would an i5-12400F and a 3060 be okay with a 700W PSU or should I go 800?

okay thanks! just needed a bit of a sanity check. thanks!

[analog pulsar]

might have to look for ram upgrade....so main monitor using Dgpu but secondary and third using Igpu for display which makes the gpu dig into shared system memory

[stoic yew]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/htW84s This is what I got for my upcoming AMD build. Everything marked as 0 Dollars, but not purchased are pieces Ill be buying after I get the barebones sytem setup and running. Will have to sell my other rig to afford the rest :D

Probably might update my 2TB NVME to a P3 Plus if AMD comes out with a 5700G successor on the AM4 Platform that has PCIE Gen 4 support.

Gonna be a 1440P Gaming Monster :D

Miiight go RX 7000 if I build the 2nd part of the PC by then, and get a new PSU to use if needed.

[obsidian wigeon]

Why 5700G?

The list already has a gpu

[stoic yew]

Did you not hear what I said earlier?

Everything marked with 0 dollars is the 2nd part of the build until the barebones system is up and working, then I sell my current PC to get the rest of the parts.

[obsidian wigeon]

I'm aware of that

[stoic yew]

A ryzen System is useless without any kind of graphics.

[obsidian wigeon]

I'm just wondering why is there a need for igp

[stoic yew]

[obsidian wigeon]

Cause 5700G isn't really good value when there's already gonna be a gpu to pair

[stoic yew]

https://tenor.com/view/you-are-stupid-are-you-stupid-chef-ramsay-gif-7766570

Said it twice now. The 5700G is so I can use the new barebones system until I can buy the rest of my parts. Which INCLUDES THE GPU!

[obsidian wigeon]

Oookay, I didn't see it

Then that's fine

[stoic yew]

Would kinda suck to buy some parts for a pc, and not be able to have a PC to use. lol

[obsidian wigeon]

Tho I myself would recommend 12600K instead, but if you insist on amd or want the extra igp perf. I won't be against it

[stoic yew]

Ive been with Intel all my life. I wanted to give AMD a go and make my first AMD PC.

[obsidian wigeon]

A problem with 5700G is that well.. its performance isn't great for its price tag

It woulda been great if it was on zen 3 ngl

But that'll have to wait

[stoic yew]

Tis the best AMD APU atm on the AM4 platform. So its the best I can go for. Hence why Im hoping AMD makes a successor for the AM4 platform jsut before I do my build.

[obsidian wigeon]

Mhm, let's hope they make a zen 3 am4 apu

[stoic yew]

Heres hoping.

Im also gonna go AM4 for multiple reasons. Its well aged, so alot less bugs to deal with. Great performance. DDR4. No OP DDR5. Its just a great platform with still many years of support to come

[dark nova]

Well now I’m excited for when my gpu arrives

To heck with this 1660

[analog pulsar]

sheeesh haha

[stoic yew]

[analog pulsar]

ay its you

[stoic yew]

Course it is :p

[obsidian wigeon]

Those points are true, but Intel also doesn't force you to use ddr5

At least for 12th and 13th gen

AMD will force you to use ddr5 anyway on am5

[desert gulch]

also going apu means youre on monolithic chip which is just, take it as you will

[obsidian wigeon]

^

Long answer short, get Intel rn

[desert gulch]

also you better love pcie gen 3 with a 5700g

[obsidian wigeon]

It's late to be supporting AMD this way

[desert gulch]

i support am4 for upgrading with current am4 boards

thats about it

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[desert gulch]

or a couple small productivity specific stuff

[obsidian wigeon]

But buying new?

Nah

If new Intel is the way to go atm

[empty pollen]

well he is defending his amd build with teeth and claws, just let him be 😛

[untold vessel]

Does anyone know which fans the new g360a uses so i can buy 4 more of them

https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-g360a-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854116?Item=N82E16811854116

[desert gulch]

it can only fit 3 more unless youre doing some push pull on a rad or somethin

[untold vessel]

alright crash course time

What is a radiator

[frank stirrup]

Inb4 usb dropouts still a thing

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

[frank stirrup]

It radiates heat from the coolant

[untold vessel]

I see

can you tell me more

[frank stirrup]

Lotta fins through which water flows to maximise surface area to cool faster

[empty pollen]

you can search for radiator on wikipedia as well

it will be more complete

[untold vessel]

so I'm looking at the pictures of the g360a on newegg

and i dont see a rear fan

do i have to purchase one?

[stoic yew]

Wherent those fixed long ago? :p

[untold vessel]

or do i have to use one of the front fans

[empty pollen]

you need to buy an extra fan for the back

artic p12 👍

[frank stirrup]

@earnest olive wanna give ur opinion lmao?

[untold vessel]

anyone know which fans the g360a uses?

[desert gulch]

they should be sk120

[earnest olive]

NO I AM ON MY LAST NERVE WITH THIS 5800X USB DROPOUT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT FIXED JUST BUY INTEL AND SAVE YOURSELF THE HEADACHE

TODAY MY WEBCAM DROPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF A PODCAST AND MY DAC DROPPED 4 TIMES

AGHHHHH

[stoic yew]

O_o Yikes.

[flint sapphire]

Skill issue?

[empty pollen]

thanks for the imput man 😄

there you have it, your amd support

[frank stirrup]

Lmfao

[earnest olive]

tell me what I'm doing o great master

[empty pollen]

just go 12th gen man, cheaper and better

[earnest olive]

agesa 1.2.0.3c, 1.2.0.6, 1.2.0.7 all tested

[flint sapphire]

I have mastered the art of getting good.

[earnest olive]

latest chipset drivers and previous chipset drivers

[empty pollen]

12400f is leagues better than 5600g

[desert gulch]

you dont have a Raisin 5 3600, thats the issue

[empty pollen]

miles better

[earnest olive]

0 whea stable

dac works perfectly with my intel laptop and my phone

[frank stirrup]

Remove pins from 5800x and solder em onto 12900k to convert it to pga. Then put 12900k in ur motherboard and flash intel bios

[earnest olive]

tell me what I'm doing wrong

ftpm disabled

[flint sapphire]

I had a x470 board that would drop out all the time, current x570 seems to have 0 issues think it’s just luck

[earnest olive]

usb selective sleep disabled

TELL ME

yes it's literally just luck

[empty pollen]

buying amd new today is not worth, 12th gen is cheaper and better all aorund. you only buy amd cpus if you already own an am4 plattform

[untold vessel]

Oh shoot! I HAVE a radiator! I'm getting the CLC 280!

[earnest olive]

why buy the platform where you have a chance to get a massive headache

when you can just buy the platform without USB issues

[flint sapphire]

Yeah if you’re not already invested in it might as well go intel.

[untold vessel]

So I buy a three pack of sk120's and use one for the rear and two on the radiator?

[untold vessel]

Is that how it works?

[desert gulch]

i mean if you want

[empty pollen]

nice aio, but be ready for new fans, the original ones are extremely loud

[untold vessel]

How do I set it up then?

[desert gulch]

actually i guess yeah g360a would support 4 more fans than stock

im thinking of p360a

[earnest olive]

I literally have to get rid of my pc in the next 2 months and I'm seriously considering upgrading from 5800x to 12700K just to make the USB dropouts stop

[untold vessel]

https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-g360a-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854116?Item=N82E16811854116

[earnest olive]

I am seriously considering it

[jagged ember]

he is going to die

[untold vessel]

found this image for the idea

[desert gulch]

i mean you can always get different fans

[jagged ember]

if the dropouts keep happening

[empty pollen]

just get 3 p12

[desert gulch]

like p12 argb or whatever

[untold vessel]

The original fans of the g*360a?

[empty pollen]

way better and cheaper

[earnest olive]

I'd rather just sell my pc and main my laptop for the next 2 months though

[frank stirrup]

Just change mobo tbh

[empty pollen]

no, the evga ones xD

[flint sapphire]

Hey orange have you ever tried a usb hub for the memes?

[earnest olive]

if I'm changing mobo I'm not going for another am4 mobo lol

[flint sapphire]

Solved a friends issue

[earnest olive]

no but I've tried 3 different usb ports

[untold vessel]

The evga fans inside of the radiator? how do i change those?

[empty pollen]

orange go 700 series at launch 😛

[untold vessel]

nvm you literally just unscrew them

[flint sapphire]

Honestly pick up a cheap hub, plug in anything that you don’t care much about. Worked for a buddy

[earnest olive]

I will not buy ryzen unless it's been confirmed usb dropouts are fixed for over a year

[stoic yew]

Maybe Zen 4 will have it fixed.

[untold vessel]

so take off the original two fans and replace them with 2 of the sk120 3 pack?

[empty pollen]

yes

[earnest olive]

sure, but I'm not gonna be the beta tester

think people should learn from being zen 1 beta testers

[untold vessel]

Let's gooo will do

[earnest olive]

zen 1 released as an incomplete product

[desert gulch]

but hey, maybe youll not throttle with a 7800x on a freaking aio in a benchmark

they fixed it so you wont need offset anymore, thats so epic

[empty pollen]

pbo on... crashes

[earnest olive]

can I ban @frank stirrup for sending pictures of really good looking indian food in my dms

thoughts

[desert gulch]

yes

[earnest olive]

ok

[desert gulch]

thats a rule here

[empty pollen]

you should be banned for not sharing with us 😛

[untold vessel]

LET US SEE

[earnest olive]

I meannn

[desert gulch]

just use rule 3 since no selling here

[earnest olive]

if I just set my PPT so I hit 89C instead of 90C

[desert gulch]

i cant believe he'd do that

[earnest olive]

it's technically not throttling... right?

copium?

[earnest olive]

you are banned

[empty pollen]

holly molly

[frank stirrup]

Mutton biryani

[desert gulch]

"the biggest zen 3 perf boost"
set power limits so the damn chip doesnt throttle and itll run cooler, faster, and with less power

[earnest olive]

I am going to replace your mobo with mine

and replace your 6750xt with a blower 1080ti

[frank stirrup]

Lmfao

[empty pollen]

theres a blower 3060 somewhere right?

[earnest olive]

and take off the one pin on your 3600x responsible for the second memory channel

[empty pollen]

palit or zotac something

[flint sapphire]

Orange is on a rampage cuz of these usb disconnects huh?

[earnest olive]

there are blower 3090s

[empty pollen]

well, they have an aio as well

[earnest olive]

no?

there are blower 3090s

full stop

[desert gulch]

asus itself made a blower 3090

[empty pollen]

really?

[desert gulch]

its that bad

[earnest olive]

they got discontinued early

[empty pollen]

holy f

[obsidian wigeon]

msi also had 3090 blower

[earnest olive]

probably because nvidia didn't want to cannibalize their own quadro lineup

[empty pollen]

blower without aio damn damn

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[frank stirrup]

Butter chicken with naan

[desert gulch]

blower cards can actually be great tho

[earnest olive]

sffpc people are willing to pay premiums for the blower cards though

[desert gulch]

blower cards are great for a WB

[frank stirrup]

:)

[earnest olive]

and blower is also great for multi gpu

[desert gulch]

yeah

*unless its a 5700xt blower

👀

nvlink 5700xt?

[earnest olive]

I can actually feel this blower 1080ti exhaust all of its heat out the back

it's pretty cool

[desert gulch]

if the air is cool then is the blower doing its job?

[earnest olive]

kinda pointless in this case because it's a single gpu in a very high airflow configuration

but it's still cool to observe the blower working

original builder put 2 unknown corsair 140mm intakes

2 p12 top exhausts

and 1 p12 rear exhaust

in a meshify c

not sure why he chose a blower gpu

[empty pollen]

to tie confetti to the exhaust for a party-style looking build

[earnest olive]

oh, another interesting thing is that the gpu temp doesn't care at all about glass panel on vs. off

I put the glass panel on and the gpu temp dropped by 0.5c

[empty pollen]

thats an important fact, always close your rig... the gpu doesnt care about open lid

[earnest olive]

meanwhile my main pc starts dying if I put the glass panel on

[earnest olive]

mine very much does

but not for the reason you might think

[empty pollen]

[earnest olive]

basically, the o11 is too small for the 3090 strix

[empty pollen]

gosh

you are a monster

[earnest olive]

so the main gpu exhaust is almost touching the glass panel

which increases gpu temps by about 6-8c?

not the end of the world

but that blocked gpu exhaust heat then proceeds to loop upwards into my ram cooler

and warm up my ram enough to cause memory errors

[empty pollen]

ouch

yeah open lid on that one, or you can try to diy a wooden stand for an open pc

[earnest olive]

so yeah if I set my PC to full blast with the glass panel on I could possibly corrupt windows lol

[empty pollen]

hahahaha

[jagged ember]

mesh side panel

[earnest olive]

I just have most of the panels off and clean it with my leaf blower once in a while

[empty pollen]

a woodboard on your wall and call it a day

[earnest olive]

dust buildup isn't too bad

I have an air purifier in my room

[empty pollen]

well that one is hideous, but you get the idea xD

[earnest olive]

seems tedious to mess with once it's done

tfw you need a ladder to clear cmos

[jagged ember]

use a crowbar

[earnest olive]

@stoic yew you get those panels from ray?

[stoic yew]

Ray?

Whos Ray?

I got the RGB panels from V1tech

[earnest olive]

ahhh I see

a guy on etsy who does that kind of stuff

nice build

[stoic yew]

Ah. I dont use Etsy at all. But thank ya.

I wanna sell it now XD

[earnest olive]

lol I'm in a tough spot of having to sell my rig right now

2 months until I move into a dorm that doesn't have room for it

but so little demand for $3k+ rigs

[jagged ember]

damn

[stoic yew]

I was thinking of selling my rig between 3 to 3.5K Canadian.

[earnest olive]

good luck

the PC market here is dead right now

hope it's better in your area

[desert gulch]

I'm gonna low-ball the hell out of it

[stoic yew]

CAnt sell my rig till I have the barebones of my new PC already done.

[earnest olive]

alright you can have my PC for $20

[desert gulch]

📸 caught in 4k

thats basically a contract

[frank stirrup]

ok fine

done

[earnest olive]

not you

[desert gulch]

🙂

better luck next time

[analog pulsar]

You take paypal

[frank stirrup]

:(

[stoic yew]

If I can save up 1.5K Canadian, I can get the barebones of my PC done

[earnest olive]

I only take payment in robux

[analog pulsar]

"Bank I need a loan if $3k thx"

[stoic yew]

Robux? Not Vbucks? :P

Not gonna be weird to use a 12600K on a B660 board, is it?

[desert gulch]

not really

[stoic yew]

What about Mixing Rog Strix and TUF parts?

[empty pollen]

[stoic yew]

Rog Strix board, TUF GPU.

[empty pollen]

rog boards are bad

so you know 😛

[stoic yew]

People say the same about Gigabyte and MSI.

Ive never had a problem with any of the main brands tbh.

[desert gulch]

sample size of one tho

its more about the model than the brand

[stoic yew]

Rog Strix B660-G Gaming Wifi?

Seems like a good board.

[desert gulch]

very spendy

[empty pollen]

rog maximus or go home

[desert gulch]

b660m-a pro wifi is really sweet rn

at least in the usa

like $120 for a really great value board

[stoic yew]

Hmm... What about H670 boards? They worth getting over B660?

[obsidian wigeon]

neh

H670 just offers more pcie lanes

[stoic yew]

Might be fine if I decide to put in a USB addon card eventually, I guess.

Or I can just use normal USB hubs.

Meh

[empty pollen]

hey guys, can you tailor me a mobo+cpu+mem+cooling combo under 1k for oc purposes, just for research purposes

[obsidian wigeon]

12600k and lf2 would be a good start i suppose

and some b-die

[empty pollen]

yeah im thinking in somethin 690 and i7 at least

but rn trying to understand power phases and the amp weight on oc

[obsidian wigeon]

ah

[runic spruce]

https://youtu.be/oDRHV3qtSWc

[empty pollen]

in fact im looking at that video as well xD

damn that kiddo have effin good videos on oc for dummies

[desert gulch]

all buildzoid is useful for is having a video to fall asleep to

[runic spruce]

Yea I would’ve explained it myself but would’ve been prob a crappy explanation

I find gamers nexus channel name funny bc he doesn’t have a single gaming video

[empty pollen]

maybe they had at the beggining dunno

[desert gulch]

correct

it started as a gaming channel sorta lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j403bZPC-MU

[empty pollen]

have gn/hub for the tech info and ltt/paulh for the lols

[desert gulch]

yea

HWB is nice too

[runic spruce]

I mean gamers nexus also drops things every now and then

[desert gulch]

JayzTwoBrainCells is also for the lols

[empty pollen]

very much

[runic spruce]

I think he dropped a 3090 on his table before

[empty pollen]

most of the time he get on my nervs

way too biased

[runic spruce]

Personally I don’t really care abt the vid

Just there for the unboxing and tech info

[empty pollen]

one of its lastest videos was about a 1000usd build.... almost everything was corsair hardware

like... really?

[desert gulch]

theres also greg salazar

who is just a lol

[runic spruce]

So?

[desert gulch]

bad value?

[runic spruce]

Corsair is a good brand

[desert gulch]

model over brand lmfao

corsair makes some crap stuff

[empty pollen]

and overpriced

[runic spruce]

Mainly ram

[desert gulch]

cv550>, vs, etc

[empty pollen]

you dont advice corsair stuff on a budget build

[runic spruce]

4000d

[desert gulch]

once in a while a cxf deal is good or something

[runic spruce]

275r af

[desert gulch]

but its not common for corsair to actually be good value

[runic spruce]

Now a rog build on the other hand

[desert gulch]

hard to reccomend when g360a exists

[empty pollen]

or a corsair aio.... no way

they are good, but way too overpriced

[desert gulch]

id really only consider corsair if i really really needed low profile ram, they had a sweet sale on psus/ i wanted nice white cables and the rm was on sale, or if they had a case on huge clearance

those are fairly specific cases tho

[runic spruce]

I buy Corsair stuff when I want an epilepsy attack

[empty pollen]

yeah the psus are the redeemable line on corsair, but then you have gt and g6

[empty pollen]

razer? hello?

[desert gulch]

idk why the rmx white even exists tbh

rmx white imo isnt a great thing but ig people still buy

[runic spruce]

Have u seen there light up stuff

[empty pollen]

hahahaha yeah

[runic spruce]

They have a pc case with like a 1000 leds

[empty pollen]

have to say it, the 5000t is kinda of a beauty

just the price.... omg... the price

[desert gulch]

it better be for the price

[runic spruce]

That was the case I was thinking of lol

[empty pollen]

there is a 7000t if im not mistaken

corsair trying to compete against itself 😛

[desert gulch]

Corsair is just proof of major brand loyalty

Like people buying a white rmx lmao

[empty pollen]

with white strix

[runic spruce]

I overpaid for a white rog psu lmao

But it had braided cables

[empty pollen]

well on rog you always overpay

[desert gulch]

Rmx cables suck

Rm cables much nicer

[torn peak]

Y-you realize that RM and RMx cables are interchangeable right?

[vague oracle]

Quality of the cables

[torn peak]

Either way

[stoic island]

I think the point is that even though Corsair could've used the same cables since the same platform, Corsair decided to make better cables for rm than rmx

[torn peak]

RM is older iirc

[stoic island]

They both have a ton of refreshes

There's RMx 2015, 2018, 2021
RM 2019,2021

[strong raft]

Tacocatbell paid for all the colors, gonna use all the colors.

[frigid night]

[torpid ruin]

hi

[mossy venture]

Hi

[olive cypress]

h i

[mossy venture]

Did you need help with something...?

[rich void]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-hi-there-greetings-gif-9442662

[stuck juniper]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/GMHjNc

thoughts

[mossy venture]

Looks fine, tho I'd try for 32gb ram if possible, and 5600x doesn't need an aio

Actually I take that back, if you're running pbo it gets a lil hot

[stuck juniper]

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236570?Item=N82E16820236570&Description=32gb ram&cm_re=32gb_ram-_-20-236-570-_-Product

[mossy venture]

Are you ordering from the us?

[stuck juniper]

gpu

and some other parts

cpu and ram

[mossy venture]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/PJ6qqs/teamgroup-t-force-vulcan-z-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-tlzgd432g3600hc18jdc01

That might be cheaper for you

[stuck juniper]

[mossy venture]

Unless I have tou confused for someone else

If I do there's this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w98bt6/silicon-power-xpower-turbine-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bda

[still roost]

SimulisKietulis#5196 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[stuck juniper]

they look poopoo

[desert gulch]

It's a great kit

Toms hardware did a review on the RGB version and their only major complaint was that it didn't come with a virus (its own silicon power RGB software)

[stuck juniper]

yeah great kit

but looks like shi

t

[mossy venture]

Dont bypass filter please

And what do you want it to look like

There's this for rgb, although I hate to recommend corsair https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/khmFf7/corsair-vengeance-rgb-pro-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmw32gx4m2z3600c18

And this for non rgb https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/kXbkcf/gskill-memory-f43200c16d32gvk

Or rgb from the US https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dHjJ7P/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gtzrx

Sorry for link spam

Idt I can delete embeds on mobile

[limber oyster]

Got myself a new primary gaming monitor

[forest briar]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-congratulations-good-for-you-gif-14079165

[limber oyster]

Welp from 24" 1080p 60hz to 27" 1440p 144hz hdr

[forest briar]

You’ll love it

The difference from 60 to 144 is godlike

Which monitor did you get??

[limber oyster]

Samsung Odessy G5

[forest briar]

Oh nice hell yeah

I have an HP Omen 27IPS and it’s a beast

[limber oyster]

Would've gone 32" 165hz optix, but I figured 32" was too big

[forest briar]

I think 27” is a perfect screen size

Ye

[limber oyster]

I'm not sure the G5 is ips or not

[forest briar]

Got a link?

[limber oyster]

Well I also have a second screen, 24"

I the 27" BARELY overlaps

[forest briar]

Nvm I found it

It’s a VA panel

Those can be pretty nice

[limber oyster]

Sorry, phone is slow at 2%

[forest briar]

LED vertical alignment

[limber oyster]

VA? My old was...what was it...TV...TN..TA... something that starts with T

[forest briar]

TN

Twisted memetic

Nematic

[limber oyster]

Yeah

[forest briar]

VA isn’t quite as good as IPS generally in terms of color representation but they are still very nice screens

I think you chose a very good monitor though

[limber oyster]

But colors can also be edited to be as close as possible in the settings though so....

[obsidian wigeon]

You can calibrate em, but a crap panel won't display good colors still

If it's bad enough that is

[forest briar]

VA isn’t a crap panel neither is what he got.

@limber oyster so because you have a Nvidia card, make sure you into the color settings in nvidia control panel and put the color whatever on the 0-256 I think it is

You’ll get a nice pop of color that way

[limber oyster]

I have it at 256

[forest briar]

Good

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[jagged ember]

bad panel is bad tho

no saving that

my laptop is proof of that lol

it could barely display the difference between my name color and color of master

[obsidian wigeon]

that's definitely trash

[jagged ember]

yeah

only after applying a custom icm profile did I see the difference

but model with good screen cost more and I didn't want to pay that much

[limber oyster]

Mine is a samsung

So...

[little osprey]

should i build another pc (all used except the cpu, ssd/hdd, and cooler) and sell it or just sell the used 1660ti?

[stuck juniper]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/9pCPgb what about this?

@mossy venture

Maybe ill get that 32 gb ram

[half iron]

can someone please give me a good build under 1200

[empty pollen]

us?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bGxK2m

[mossy venture]

Country, use case?