building-and-recc-chat

[mossy venture]

going to be getting a 13th gen cpu and new mobo, and making a whole new build except for ram, gpu and storage

[cyan ravine]

white psus are blegh price

[arctic jungle]

yep

[obsidian wigeon]

it's the white tax

[cyan ravine]

you could pick a steel legend and 12400f and it just hits 800 but that looks like the best that can be done

[mossy venture]

check out the list i made

[arctic jungle]

this is pretty good

if i wanted to buff up the cpu a bit, what should I get? looking at i5-old i7 performance

[mossy venture]

12100f beats 10400

one sec

oof, 12400f price went up

[mossy venture]

how much storage do you need?

[cyan ravine]

this was what I ended up on https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W27wk9

[arctic jungle]

1 tb should be good

hows this case?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/N6kgXL/deepcool-macube-110-atx-mid-tower-case-r-macube110-whngm1n-g-1

it's small so i like it

[mossy venture]

pretty much what i have

[mossy venture]

not good

solid front panel

[cyan ravine]

i know lol

[arctic jungle]

its not like it's putting out a ton of heat anyways lol

idm

[mossy venture]

still not a good case, i wouldnt use it

[arctic jungle]

can you recommend something similar in size?

that's around the same price range

thanks

[cyan ravine]

silverstone fara h1m iirc

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cW9tt6/silverstone-ps15-microatx-mid-tower-case-sst-ps15w-g this looks alright

[obsidian wigeon]

fara r1 pro is also a decent choice i think

mesh, has two fans on front

[arctic jungle]

also are all the rgb components able to be turned off or white?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[arctic jungle]

awesome

[obsidian wigeon]

how to turn them "off" in my experience is setting them to black lmao

[arctic jungle]

can someone also attach the link to a white light strip that i can line the case with

[obsidian wigeon]

cause black light isn't possible unless you put a tint on the led

[arctic jungle]

true

thanks!

[arctic jungle]

this though

because i think a light strip would be the best way to change the color

[arctic jungle]

thanks!

[cyan ravine]

phanteks neon is like guaranteed to line most cases if you can afford it

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[cyan ravine]

very thin frosted rgb

(set it to white)

[eager vessel]

i oc'd my ram from 2400 to 4200 today

im excited

[cyan ravine]

did you stress test it?

[eager vessel]

i'm running 11gen i9 to 5.2

yes

[cyan ravine]

what did you stress test with

[eager vessel]

the fans sound like a jet fan

[arctic jungle]

ok thanks sm

[eager vessel]

its liquid cooled tho

[arctic jungle]

your ram is liquid cooled!?

[eager vessel]

no

[cyan ravine]

a reasonable reaction there tbh lol

[eager vessel]

theres a heatsync over it

[arctic jungle]

but

[eager vessel]

the ram it rated for 4500

[cyan ravine]

Futz what did you stress test with

[eager vessel]

gta

[cyan ravine]

that's not a stress test lol

if it's rated for 4500 XMP it's probably fine anyway

[eager vessel]

no but man the performance is noticable

[cyan ravine]

11th gen likes ram

[eager vessel]

i never got why it was rated for 4500 but performed at 2800 till i started messing

[cyan ravine]

if you don't turn on the XMP setting then it won't do that

[eager vessel]

it crashed if i applied the xmp profile

[cyan ravine]

yeah cos 4500 isn't something easily defaulted to

[eager vessel]

i spent all day today experimenting

[cyan ravine]

if you changed a few voltages and switched to gear 2 it'd probably work

depending on the board

but you should also do a proper stress test if 4500 XMP failed

Would suggest TM5 Anta777extreme or TM5 PCBDestroyer for that

it might have underlying stability issues

[eager vessel]

i dunno if i can get it any faster with the mb

[cyan ravine]

what mb?

[eager vessel]

asus z490a

[cyan ravine]

strix or prime?

[eager vessel]

prime

[cyan ravine]

heh, I actually have used this board

4200 sounds about right for frequency limits

[eager vessel]

yeah i dont think i can push much more

i got really good oc' speeds on the processor tho

[cyan ravine]

best I got on it was with micron E at like, 4100 15-18-18-something

I was fairly new to ram oc at the time though

but it was definitely frequency limited

[eager vessel]

yeah

but man, after today the thing is faster than the day i built it

[cyan ravine]

And I'm gonna double down on this btw

[cyan ravine]

^^^

Since you are playing at the frequency limits of that board

[desert gulch]

absolut config also great great

[cyan ravine]

there's a strong chance it can have stability issues even if you raised just frequency

[desert gulch]

absolute is just a newer tm5 config from anta

[cyan ravine]

https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4 OC Guide.md

Links for different ram tests are in there

[eager vessel]

i want to play games 😡

[cyan ravine]

idk if the TM5 link is still active, you might need to find an alternative

[cyan ravine]

do you want to corrupt windows?

[eager vessel]

send me one link and i'll do it

maybe

[potent portal]

The Newegg techie link? Yeah it works

[eager vessel]

it wouldn't be the first time i corrupted a windows

[potent portal]

I used it yesterday

[cyan ravine]

send link

lol

I grabbed that guide from another discord

[eager vessel]

yeah but theres a ton there

who got time for that

[cyan ravine]

oh wait nvm they fixed the link in the guide

[potent portal]

https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Windows-Troubleshooting-Utilities/wiki/How-To-Download-And-Use-TM5

[eager vessel]

ok give me a min

[earnest olive]

compromise, play games until nighttime and run a memory test overnight lol

[cyan ravine]

Download that and run either anta777, absolute or pcbdestroyer. The goal is to at least pass a few hours with zero errors

if you don't, it's unstable

that's the general idea anyway

you may also want to roll back the cpu oc for this

[eager vessel]

a few hours

[cyan ravine]

mhm

welcome to ram oc lol

[eager vessel]

im gonna be to bed in a few hours

[earnest olive]

yeah, so start it before you sleep

and check results in the morning

it won't damage anything to leave your pc on overnight

i go 8 months without turning my pc off

[eager vessel]

clock = 4100 sse =80 sec/gb

<belches loudly

sse went up a lot

[earnest olive]

those numbers are meaningless

[eager vessel]

its utilizing almost all my ram, fans went up a bit in speed

[earnest olive]

the only numbers to care about are cycle # and error count

[eager vessel]

how long should it take for an error

[cyan ravine]

depends how stable

if it's completely stable it won't

did you test your cpu OC as well?

5.2 gets pretty hot

[eager vessel]

no, i've only gamed with it

it gets about as loud as it is now

[earnest olive]

i've done like 2 weeks total of ram testing without errors

more than 0 errors is unstable

if you get 1 error in 24 hours, it's unstable

[cyan ravine]

you'll want to do test the cpu oc afterwards as well, otherwise game crashes and blue screens

[eager vessel]

i've never had a game crash

[earnest olive]

the 5.2ghz is probably fine if he's been gaming on it for months

what voltage?

[eager vessel]

chrome crashed the other day

i was pissed

[cyan ravine]

[earnest olive]

(please do not say auto)

[eager vessel]

i was like...of everything i do?!

[earnest olive]

(i will scream)

did chrome crash, or did the pc crash while running chrome?

there is a distinction

[eager vessel]

chrome

[earnest olive]

if chrome crashed, it's probably chrome's fault

[eager vessel]

specifically

[earnest olive]

if the pc crashed, it's probably not chrome's fault

[eager vessel]

i use brave browser tho

[cyan ravine]

it's probably auto sips

[earnest olive]

sir

please answer

[eager vessel]

i was shocked

[earnest olive]

what is your cpu voltage

[little osprey]

Hey!

Can someone make me a nice build a little above 1000$ with an rtx 3060ti?

my current pc is dyin

so currently saving up for a good one

[cyan ravine]

sure

wait

are you close to having enough?

[eager vessel]

1.495

[earnest olive]

OH JESUS

[cyan ravine]

hahahaha

[earnest olive]

please drop it to 5.0ghz immediately

[little osprey]

my next paycheck i should be good

[earnest olive]

and set a manual voltage

[little osprey]

my current pc rx 570 w a amd ryzen 3600

pure bottleneck

[cyan ravine]

ok give me a minute or two

[little osprey]

LMFAO

[cyan ravine]

you're gonna kill this cpu very fast

[eager vessel]

well its going on two years

[earnest olive]

honestly, you can probably just drop in a ryzen 5 5600 and 3070 into what you already have

maybe update psu

[little osprey]

psu 550w

ye

[eager vessel]

i usually replace about every 4-5

[earnest olive]

550w is enough wattage, but what unit is it?

[little osprey]

bronze rated

[cyan ravine]

brand?

[mossy venture]

what model

[little osprey]

corsair

[mossy venture]

rating doesnt mean anything

[cyan ravine]

CX? CV?

[mossy venture]

is it cv, cxm, cxf, or rm

or cx

[earnest olive]

probably good enough for 5600+3070 tbh

[cyan ravine]

Luke would hate that idea

[earnest olive]

meh

i put a 3600x + 3080 + 3070 on a b tier 650w psu

worked fine at 100% load

🙂

[eager vessel]

nice

[earnest olive]

1 pcie cable per gpu

[eager vessel]

i still have a 1080

i actually have two

[little osprey]

this

[earnest olive]

haswell ready pog

[little osprey]

550w would be burnt

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

[mossy venture]

i ran a 3060 ti and 3600 on an E tier 500

[earnest olive]

i think that's fine for 5600 3070 though

[little osprey]

i'd still much rather upgrade

[eager vessel]

has anyone had an issue with a 1080ti maxing out?

[little osprey]

ill borrow it and let you know if it maxes out for me @eager vessel

[eager vessel]

i've never had it max out

the only thing slowing my thing down tho is the 10th gen graphics

[little osprey]

i can barely play fivem on 60 fps with no frame drops

i had 7 bsods the other day too

lol

my pc is just straight up dying

[earnest olive]

what error code?

[eager vessel]

i am kinda excited

i found a 6tb barracuda drive that i forgot i bought X_X

[obsidian wigeon]

damn

[little osprey]

a bunc h of different onces

half were memory issues which i found weird

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RGxfFg alright, knock yourself out lol

[mossy venture]

why not asus tuf for the psu?

[little osprey]

what if i get a 5600x instead of that i5

would that be better

[mossy venture]

isnt it a bit better?

[little osprey]

[mossy venture]

no

[earnest olive]

no.

[mossy venture]

amd isnt better price/perf anymore

[little osprey]

wtf

really?

[mossy venture]

5600 is more expensive and a bit worse

[little osprey]

damn

see

the thing i like about amd

is their stock coolers

[mossy venture]

pain

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

[little osprey]

i heard they're better than intels

lol

[mossy venture]

they are not

[little osprey]

never had an issue with em

[mossy venture]

in any way

[earnest olive]

so?

[obsidian wigeon]

intel stock coolers are fine

[mossy venture]

oh wait

[earnest olive]

$20 cooler will crush both stock coolers

who cares

[eager vessel]

i dont think stock coolers should ever be used

[little osprey]

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[mossy venture]

also, intel stock cooler for 12th gen is fine

[earnest olive]

you have a >$1000 budget, you can afford a $20 cooler

[eager vessel]

unless a really budget system

[obsidian wigeon]

20 bucks coolers beats stock any day

[little osprey]

guess what i use my amd ryzen 3600 stock cooler and it never went over 75c

not even joking

while gaming

lol

[earnest olive]

okay? and?

[obsidian wigeon]

same for 12400f

[little osprey]

sir calm down

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

[little osprey]

im just saying

lol

[earnest olive]

i've built like 20 ryzen rigs with stock coolers

[obsidian wigeon]

you have a budget and 20 bucks won't hurt

[earnest olive]

still would recommend 12400f + $20 cooler for your budget

[empty pollen]

stock coolers cant keep up with high frequencies on your cpu... it will work no doubt but it will be slow

[mossy venture]

ehh

[empty pollen]

cause thermals

[earnest olive]

false

[mossy venture]

for gaming, they will

[obsidian wigeon]

that's not true

[earnest olive]

personal experience overclocking more than 15 ryzen 5 3600s on stock coolers

[obsidian wigeon]

cpu doesn't boost like gpu does

[earnest olive]

you run into voltage limits first

[mossy venture]

time to oc a 12900k on a 12100f stock cooler

[obsidian wigeon]

[empty pollen]

id like to see that

[mossy venture]

i actually kinda want to see that

thatd be funny

[earnest olive]

lol, dawid has a 12900K stock cooler video

because of course he does

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

he does jank stuff

[empty pollen]

that should be painful to see

[earnest olive]

i love dawid

[little osprey]

tf is this

why is it showing compatibility issues

[empty pollen]

its a screenshot

[mossy venture]

its just pcp being stupid

its a false positive

[little osprey]

i figured

[obsidian wigeon]

it's a false positive

[little osprey]

i was like what

lol

yeah

[earnest olive]

not necessarily a false positive

[mossy venture]

well, in this case, its not something to worry about

[earnest olive]

if you happen to get one of the new steppings of the 12400 AND some old stock of the board

[empty pollen]

600 mobos are 12th gen compatible

[earnest olive]

then yeah it can be an issue

[empty pollen]

at least for now

[little osprey]

i have the p400a case

[earnest olive]

however it's extremely unlikely

[little osprey]

so i might use that

instead

[mossy venture]

then keep the case

[little osprey]

ype

[mossy venture]

its a good case

[little osprey]

very

so good for cable management

lol

[earnest olive]

you might as well rebuild and sell your old pc as a whole unit, just figure out what's causing the bsods first

[little osprey]

^ thats what im doing

hahahah

[mossy venture]

also a fair point

[little osprey]

im listing it on a resell site

[empty pollen]

some cleaning and good as new for the facebook market

[mossy venture]

im out, im tired

[earnest olive]

you can generally sell a full working pc for more than the sum of its parts

[mossy venture]

sips do be smart so listen to him

[empty pollen]

cy later bacca

👋

[little osprey]

3600mhz ram show much difference?

or

[mossy venture]

depends on timings

3600c18 would be a bit better

3600c16 would be a good bit better, but it tends to not be worth the jump in price

[earnest olive]

figured you were riding along the edge of your budget already

[obsidian wigeon]

4000c18 do seem nice tho

[mossy venture]

theres a $125 kit of 4000c18 ram that would be a better buy than most 3600c16 kits atm

[obsidian wigeon]

im sure 12400f can handle it

[earnest olive]

you can definitely go for 3600c18/3600c16 if you want

[earnest olive]

no

[mossy venture]

alr out fr this time

[earnest olive]

VCCSA is locked on non-K cpus

[obsidian wigeon]

not oc tho

[earnest olive]

4000 gear 1 is unlikely with auto VCCSA

so it'll go to gear 2 if it works

[little osprey]

quick question whats a WIFI DDR4

[obsidian wigeon]

hm ok

[earnest olive]

and then you get worse performance than just going 3600 gear 1

[obsidian wigeon]

wifi is wifi

ddr4 is ram type ofc

[little osprey]

oh

[earnest olive]

just means the board supports wifi and ddr4

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[earnest olive]

they have to say ddr4 because lga1700 boards have ddr4 and ddr5 variants

[little osprey]

ddr5 ram better no?

[earnest olive]

lol

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

[earnest olive]

your budget is 1k not 4k

[obsidian wigeon]

newer doesn't always mean better

ddr5 is expensive and not good rn

[earnest olive]

don't buy ddr5 unless you also have 12900ks 3090ti and really hate your wallet

it's a miniscule performance gain for much higher price

wait until ddr5 matures, it's still too early in its life cycle to be good price/perf

[obsidian wigeon]

and the worse thing is

[little osprey]

sorry guys im not the smartest

[obsidian wigeon]

some people legit gets the worst ddr5 kit

[earnest olive]

we all start somewhere

[obsidian wigeon]

to pair with their high end build

[earnest olive]

you're fine

[obsidian wigeon]

but ^

[earnest olive]

i joined this server knowing nothing

[little osprey]

and this was the first pc i built

man you don't understand

i almost cried putting in that cpu cooler

LMAOO

[earnest olive]

got made fun of for asking if 3600x bottlenecks 2080 super

[little osprey]

it was a pain in the ass

[earnest olive]

happens

i mean

for my first build

[obsidian wigeon]

you'll learn as you make progress

[earnest olive]

i put the cpu cooler on the wrong way

took it off to correct it

[obsidian wigeon]

my first rig i killed the mobo lmao

but it's more to do with case design

[earnest olive]

and dripped thermal paste into the ram slot cause i didn't realize it would drip like that

panicked for like 20 mins

then got the thermal paste out with an electric toothbrush dipped in isopropyl alcohol

[obsidian wigeon]

i scratched my mobo with the gpu bracket

[earnest olive]

we all started somewhere

[little osprey]

so here's the funny thing

[obsidian wigeon]

thank god rma accepted it

[little osprey]

i removed the cpu cooler brackets

and was about to put on the cooler

[obsidian wigeon]

asus service in thailand is amazing

[little osprey]

i lifted the mobo and the backplate fell down

i thought i broke it

LMAOO

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

normal reaction for first time

[little osprey]

and here i am, a 21 year old still being scared of building pc's

[obsidian wigeon]

static actually isn't a worry but if you want to be safe you can always get grounding straps

not the wireless ones tho, that's not how grounding works

[little osprey]

i never ever got scared of static

cause i wasn't building it ontop of a carpet

[little osprey]

scam 101

[obsidian wigeon]

heck building it on a carpet isn't easy to damage things

[little osprey]

i saw those

i was like that makes no sense lol

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

it's to take your money away

[little osprey]

can i use the stock i5 cooler and have no issues?

that cooler just looks a bit too big and scary to install

[obsidian wigeon]

it's actually very small

but yes, you can use it

[little osprey]

you know

one of the best cpu coolers i saw

was the nzxt one

that you can put logos on or something

[empty pollen]

there is a lot of those lately

with lcd screens

[little osprey]

they kinda cool

[empty pollen]

not cheap tho D:

[cyan ravine]

Very overkill for a 12400f

Mostly in price

[obsidian wigeon]

and they perform meh

[cyan ravine]

We don't talk about the 120mm ones

[empty pollen]

120mm aios, no way xD

[obsidian wigeon]

120mm aios needs to be loud to be any good

[empty pollen]

[little osprey]

also @obsidian wigeon there's room for an extra hundred or so, possibly a better cpu ?

[obsidian wigeon]

well

yeah

[empty pollen]

12600k

[obsidian wigeon]

you can get 12600kf

but you will need a cooler

and a beefy one at that

ak620 for example

[empty pollen]

time to jump to the clc 240?

[cyan ravine]

280

[little osprey]

10 processor counts, whilst the 12400f has 12

[obsidian wigeon]

lol yeah

[little osprey]

tf

[obsidian wigeon]

um?

[empty pollen]

cores or threads?

[obsidian wigeon]

12400f has 6 cores

[empty pollen]

12600k have 12 cores / 16 threads

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[little osprey]

sorry amazon is just cracked

lol

idk why it says "processor count"

[obsidian wigeon]

that's just 10 core

[little osprey]

ye ik

realized

[obsidian wigeon]

16 threads

[little osprey]

cache size is threads?

[empty pollen]

no

[obsidian wigeon]

no

cache size is cpu's memory

[empty pollen]

cache is its internal memory

[little osprey]

the more the better i assume right

[empty pollen]

cores are the actual processor units, divided on 2 threads per core

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

but 5600x has more cache and it's slower

so like it's a lot of things

[little osprey]

oh wow

i saw it has 32

[empty pollen]

like core architecture

[little osprey]

jesus lol

[empty pollen]

yeah cpu have a lot of variables

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[empty pollen]

thats why you cant make a tier list for cpus

[obsidian wigeon]

just cache amount alone doesn't mean much

[little osprey]

just wanna make sure this cpu wouldn't be a pain in the ass if i decided to stream sometime in the future etc

[empty pollen]

its not

12400f is a very good cpu for gaming/light streaming

[obsidian wigeon]

12600kf performs nearly identical to 12900k

in many games

[empty pollen]

most game only use 4 cores

more cores are needed on professional aplications

[little osprey]

i mean this has 10 right

so it should be pretty good

[obsidian wigeon]

it's good for anything

[empty pollen]

thats why i7s and i9 are way overkill for gamers

[obsidian wigeon]

gaming, streaming and workstation

[little osprey]

so the intel 12600kf beats which CPU in amd?

[obsidian wigeon]

it even beats 5800x

[little osprey]

JESUS LOL

[empty pollen]

and trade blows with the 5900

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[empty pollen]

12th gen was released to fight the 5000x series

amd was the clear winner before them

[cyan ravine]

OC'd a 12600K nearly trades with a 12900K

Bar productivity ofc

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pQK7pH

aight so final setup would be this?

any other changes y'all suggest?

[obsidian wigeon]

you need a cooler

[cyan ravine]

You need a cooler

[obsidian wigeon]

ak620 for air

[cyan ravine]

Or evga clc 280

[empty pollen]

yup

[little osprey]

it doesn't come with a stock one?

[obsidian wigeon]

clc 280 for aio

yeah

[empty pollen]

no

[obsidian wigeon]

it doesn't

[little osprey]

oh shi

[empty pollen]

no k version comes with coolers

[cyan ravine]

It doesn't and it shouldn't

[obsidian wigeon]

stock cooler won't handle a chip this hot

[empty pollen]

get a clc280 or an ak620

good aio on the evga one and top of the line tower cooler on the ak

[cyan ravine]

More ls720 reviews when

[little osprey]

let me see those 2

one sec

ok which y'all recommend clc280 or ak620

any extra fans needed btw?

[obsidian wigeon]

depends on what you want

[little osprey]

i honestly don't care just up for suggestions y'all are more knowledgable

[obsidian wigeon]

air cooler is simpler to install

[empty pollen]

both are good, but one is an aio and the other is an air cooler

[obsidian wigeon]

aio is more involving to install

cause you have to mount the rad and pump

[cyan ravine]

Air cooler also cheaper

[empty pollen]

thats up to personal preference

both are very good

[little osprey]

i dont want something hard for me

this would be my second pc

[empty pollen]

then go ak

[little osprey]

• i heard air is much more reliable no?

[empty pollen]

it is

[little osprey]

from one of my friends

[cyan ravine]

Can be

[little osprey]

I was thinking of that nzxt cooler aio

and he was like no

[obsidian wigeon]

nzxt aio sucks

for value

[cyan ravine]

12600K is about as high as you'd go on air performance-wise

[empty pollen]

an air cooler basically is plug and play for the next 10 years

[obsidian wigeon]

^

aio lasts less longer

[empty pollen]

but can handle lower temperatures and lower noise as a trade off

[obsidian wigeon]

but good ones should last until it doesn't work well with future cpus anymore

or well be too outdated

[little osprey]

this thing?

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[empty pollen]

that is beautifulk

[cyan ravine]

Dat thang

[obsidian wigeon]

it's big and tall

[little osprey]

hard to install? does it come with preapplied thermal paste?

[obsidian wigeon]

but shouldn't be too hard to install

[cyan ravine]

Yes i think so

[obsidian wigeon]

it should come with paste

[empty pollen]

comes with a thermal paste

not preinstalled, but on a tube

[cyan ravine]

Ah

[obsidian wigeon]

you can apply one yourself

[cyan ravine]

My b

Just do the dots and cross

[little osprey]

if i move it around a lot while applying would it screw it?

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

[empty pollen]

no

[obsidian wigeon]

it's fine

[little osprey]

ok so ak620

[obsidian wigeon]

don't worry about that

[empty pollen]

pcp just being dork

[obsidian wigeon]

it'll fit

[empty pollen]

ak620 will come with the bracket

[obsidian wigeon]

and the mobo will work with just one cpu power connector

[little osprey]

i just dont wanna order everything then realize im missing something

lol

[empty pollen]

no worries, good to ask

[little osprey]

wait

the phanteks eclipse p360 would fit that cooler right?

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

[little osprey]

would there be room for ram?

y'all said it was huge

so

[obsidian wigeon]

there will be

it's big but not like huge lol

[empty pollen]

ak620 have good clearance for ram

[earnest olive]

why would any cooler manufacturer make a cooler that is incompatible with a computer

[little osprey]

cause they might be weird sometimes

why the hell does the p360a tower case have rgb and my p400a doesn't

that's rude

[obsidian wigeon]

well

[earnest olive]

every computer needs ram

[obsidian wigeon]

you didn't get rgb variant

[little osprey]

i mean my pc is gonna be on the ground eitherway

[empty pollen]

what?

[little osprey]

so idc much lol

[earnest olive]

p400a does have an rgb version

[empty pollen]

plz no

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[empty pollen]

D:

[little osprey]

i don't put my pc on the table @empty pollen small room

[mystic needle]

…

[earnest olive]

on the ground is fine as long as it's not carpet

[little osprey]

😦

nah no carpets

[empty pollen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6VGXLW6hWM

plz D:

[obsidian wigeon]

i put mine on the floor

[little osprey]

i can't make room for it to be on the table lol

small ass room

yeah same

[obsidian wigeon]

it brings in more dust but

my desk is smol

[little osprey]

^

[empty pollen]

play that video

[little osprey]

so much dust

lol

i clean my pc every month to be exact

[earnest olive]

not everyone is privileged enough to have a large room and large desk

[little osprey]

i lift that thing and oh jesus

[empty pollen]

maybe we can convince you against that

[little osprey]

the floor is full of dust

lol

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

not everyone has big rooms

or large desks

or both

[little osprey]

i don't have a big room man

if send you a photo you'll cry lol

nor a big desk

otherwise i would

[empty pollen]

at least put a box or a brick

[mystic needle]

then it should be fine as long as no carpet and regular dusting of the floor🤔

[obsidian wigeon]

i hate cleaning the dust but hey

i can't choose

[mystic needle]

dust is literally my ultimate enemy

[little osprey]

@mystic needle idk what regular dusting would do to it

@mystic needle be too legit

[earnest olive]

screams in asian

[mystic needle]

true

[empty pollen]

a rig should be your magnus opus, you dont put trophies on the floor right?

at least is a piece of pride for me :3

[little osprey]

i completely understand

[obsidian wigeon]

bruh

[little osprey]

but i can't just go make room for it

[obsidian wigeon]

using shoes indoors

[little osprey]

that's the part you don't get

[obsidian wigeon]

wtf

[little osprey]

lol

[earnest olive]

feel free to buy him a larger house

[little osprey]

unless i move houses

LOL

[earnest olive]

i'm sure he will put his pc on the desk then

[obsidian wigeon]

well i would get it if it's like an office

but house?

nope

unless it's an unfinished house

[earnest olive]

if he says he doesn't have room then he doesn't have room man

[little osprey]

i live in a 2 bedroom apartment with 2 brothers in the same room

how do you expect me to fit a huge table in a small room

lol

[cyan ravine]

buy a pc trolley then it be fine

[little osprey]

i would love to have it on the table, but i can't badum-ts

[empty pollen]

i mean, that video from paul's hardware is very educative for the off floor campaign, very good at least for me :3

[earnest olive]

buy him a bigger house

[little osprey]

im up for a house if you want

np

[earnest olive]

i have my pc right next to my face and i love it that way

[little osprey]

legit though the phanteks case is probably the best case i have ever in my life bought

2 dust filters

[earnest olive]

but i also realize that i'm speaking from a position of privilege saying that

[little osprey]

• i put it on the ground

so that's even better

cause there's one on the bottom

[obsidian wigeon]

i haven't cleaned my rig since

late last year

i can see the glass panel being dusty lmao

[little osprey]

i recommend lifting it up rn from the ground

and you'll see hell

LMFAO

[obsidian wigeon]

rig on the floor be like

[little osprey]

i take really good care of mine

clean every month exact

[earnest olive]

i run my pc with no dust filters on purpose

[cyan ravine]

https://cdn.webshopapp.com/shops/172646/files/294149757/orico-computer-floor-stand-trolley-with-wheels-bra.jpg

[obsidian wigeon]

im just too lazy to bother

it's running fine

[little osprey]

i remove the dust with a cloth and clean the fans with a cotton swab

[cyan ravine]

ez access

[little osprey]

i dont want my pc rolling away from me

HAHA

[obsidian wigeon]

i just use a paint brush

[empty pollen]

mine will have to endure until raptor lake

im too lazy to open and clean it

[obsidian wigeon]

dust everything down

[little osprey]

@obsidian wigeon thanks for saying that LOL

im buying one rn

[obsidian wigeon]

static isn't too much of a worry

[earnest olive]

dust filters < no dust filters and leaf blower go brr every week

[cyan ravine]

some come with brakes also man's livin on an angle

[obsidian wigeon]

but i would recc getting an anti static brush

[cyan ravine]

[little osprey]

even brushes have static

oh my lord

[earnest olive]

i mean given what i do to my pc sometimes i'm pretty sure it wants to roll away from me

[obsidian wigeon]

lol it has so little static tho

im just saying

cause im using a normal small soft bristle paint brush

and nothing wrong happened

[earnest olive]

oopsie

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

[little osprey]

@earnest olive i probably have like 5 of those

[obsidian wigeon]

i have a lot of unsafe shutdowns too

i usually forget my laptop has ded batt

[cyan ravine]

where is that stat

[earnest olive]

i'm doing it on purpose though

[obsidian wigeon]

and i unplug it

[little osprey]

im telling, i take the best care of my pc. xD

[earnest olive]

SMART data

[obsidian wigeon]

^

my laptop has like

[earnest olive]

me overclock, me pc go crash

[obsidian wigeon]

60-70 unsafe shutdowns by now?

[little osprey]

i never oc'd my pc

[obsidian wigeon]

ocing is fun

but making it stable is.. an ordeal

[earnest olive]

that's why i'm saying my pc wants to roll away from me

[little osprey]

ok so i bookmarked my build, uh do i need any extra intake fans?

it comes with 2 already i think

[earnest olive]

rommy i'll make you crash

[empty pollen]

p12 fans

cant go wrong with those

[earnest olive]

yes

[little osprey]

it comes with these 2 i tink

[earnest olive]

come here

[little osprey]

i can get one more i think

[cyan ravine]

it does

[earnest olive]

what

[cyan ravine]

just 1 extra arctic p12 at the back you'd be fine @little osprey

[earnest olive]

[little osprey]

oh yeah true

i forgot that

lol

back fan

thats what i currently have, 2 front, 1 back

last thing

[cyan ravine]

i mean prolly not even that, the ak620 is dual fan dual tower

[little osprey]

will a triple fan gpu fit that case though

[cyan ravine]

yes

bigger gpu's fit in there

[little osprey]

cause my rx 570 is a duel fan, and looks big already

[empty pollen]

hell, that one is my gpu

[little osprey]

i have rgb rams and don't have rgb on on them

[empty pollen]

its beautiful

[little osprey]

cause idc

[little osprey]

i hate it.

[cyan ravine]

looks like t-force or somethin

[little osprey]

yeap

its t force 16gb 3200mhz

[cyan ravine]

I've seen too many computers

[little osprey]

i can tell

xD

so it would fit ok just makin sure

does triple fan gpu provide more power

[cyan ravine]

better cooling

[little osprey]

sh

i v

ah * i c *

[cyan ravine]

more power is determined by the number of pcie power plugs

although , 2x8 on a 3060ti is pretty beefy

[empty pollen]

lot of room for oc

Nonsense, its beautiful

[little osprey]

thats a p400a?

i mean p360a

[empty pollen]

5000x

[little osprey]

sorry

[cyan ravine]

green mobo

[little osprey]

the case

i meant

[cyan ravine]

kekw

[empty pollen]

its a 4770

[cyan ravine]

going hard then

[empty pollen]

like a supreme bottleneck

[little osprey]

what does that mean

bad?

[cyan ravine]

good

[empty pollen]

the card and the case are waiting for raptor lake to be fully functional... just a couple more months

just.. a bit... more

[cyan ravine]

wait is that itx

[empty pollen]

yep

[cyan ravine]

like that pc case meme

[empty pollen]

its an hp 400g1 pc on a 5000x

[little osprey]

Oh hm

1tb nvme enough?

not sure how many games ill playing

prolly not much lol

[empty pollen]

yeah 1tb is more then enough

ideally you have the nvme for your main games and windows, and a hard drive for documments and general storage

if you want your pc for video editing then another nvme could be useful as well

[little osprey]

wait is this the fan you guys talked about

jesus thats massive

lmao

[empty pollen]

thats the ak400 i guess

the 620 have two towers and 2 fans 😛 that one only have 1 tower and 1 fan

[little osprey]

just looking at builds with this mobo to make sure its good

[empty pollen]

thats why the exhaust fan maaaaybe is not needed

[empty pollen]

you dont see the pics to know if its good, you look for reviews

the pics are just to see if its pretty

[little osprey]

nono i meant pics with the ak620

and a triple fan gpu

[earnest olive]

i picked that mobo for a reason

it's good

trust

[little osprey]

Yes boss

[empty pollen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/863604284275687444/995465383484076032/unknown.png?width=1202&height=676

ak620 with a dual fan gpu

just imaigine the gpu a lil longer

😛

[little osprey]

it would be very long no? prolly reach the front fans

and holy shmokes that is one big fan lol

idk how the ram would fit

[empty pollen]

it will fit

we would not recommend it if that could be a problem

same for the mobo

as an example

there you have it

[little osprey]

ohhh

its under

[cyan ravine]

wow i didn't know it fit g.skills

[empty pollen]

and the neo ones are tall

[cyan ravine]

like the second tallest ram in existence

behind dominators

[little osprey]

cause i changed the rams to the Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB rams

so i thought they would be big

[empty pollen]

vengeance are low profile

[cyan ravine]

noooo not vengeance

vengeance bad

[little osprey]

silicon power good?

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8QcCJ/silicon-power-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bdaj7

this kit will fit perfectly fine

and won't have vengememe problems

[little osprey]

looks

[cyan ravine]

they're low profile as well

[little osprey]

looks trash but idc for the looks so xD

just never heard of that company

[empty pollen]

triple fan tuf gpu and some rgb rams xD

he installed the fan backwards for the rgb

like LOL

[cyan ravine]

actually that version means you can pick whatever ram and also ditch the back fan

[little osprey]

which case is that

[cyan ravine]

perf would be the same

meshify c i think

[little osprey]

not a p360a right

[empty pollen]

its a fractal one, not sure which one

[little osprey]

i see

those extensions are nice

[cyan ravine]

oh maybe not meshify c

[empty pollen]

but damn, those neo light up the cool chekered pattern on the cooler

[little osprey]

was gonna get a backfan

extra cooling dont hurt

[cyan ravine]

only one fan deserves to be on this side

two is unnecessary

that's if you install the fans the other way

[little osprey]

so having an extra backfan would be bad?

[empty pollen]

yup with a beeffy cooler as that, you dont need an additional exhaust fan

not bad, just redundant

[little osprey]

so that cpu cooler

acts both as an exauhst

and front fan

wow

[cyan ravine]

like this, back fan is fine

[little osprey]

wtf

im confused

[cyan ravine]

like this, redundant

[little osprey]

how is this one on the left and middle

[empty pollen]

same cooler, different fan configurations

[little osprey]

that one on the middle and right

[cyan ravine]

ya that's what we're talking about

he put the fan from the front on the back instead

[little osprey]

did he just like apply it on a different angle?

you can remove those fans?

[empty pollen]

yeah, they have clips

[little osprey]

where even is the screws for em

oh clips

i was like i dont see holes

like wtf

thats easier then

lol

[empty pollen]

look at the clips

[cyan ravine]

man I wish I had an ak620

they look so nice

[empty pollen]

most air coolers use clips for their fans

if not all

[little osprey]

are they hard to remove

[empty pollen]

no

[cyan ravine]

they're clips so it's easy

lol

[empty pollen]

they are solid enough to stay on place and easier to put and remove

[little osprey]

That would be so good to clean them too

wtf

unclip clean and put back

[empty pollen]

thats the idea of the clips

easy for maintenance

[little osprey]

oh my god..

when i have a better house

this is the type of stuff i want on my table

this is just heaven

[cyan ravine]

G360A is really good for that imo

[little osprey]

you mean the p360a?

[cyan ravine]

p360a too

G360a is an improved version

one sec I'll dig up an example

[little osprey]

oh wow..

a triple fan gpu actually fits a p360a very well

holy wow

[earnest olive]

fan count isn't as good of an indicator of gpu length as... gpu length

[little osprey]

Yes yes pls don't kill me @earnest olive im an overthinker.

oh nvm you weren't gonna comment on that

xD

[earnest olive]

just look at the case's maximum gpu length spec

and look at the length of the gpu

[little osprey]

oo

sec

[earnest olive]

no need to look up pictures or anything, the numbers are all there

[little osprey]

ahh beautiful

[earnest olive]

oof

[cyan ravine]

lol these google images

[little osprey]

perfectos

love you @earnest olive

im gonna make sure to bug the hell out of you when i start building it

[cyan ravine]

ooros (expectations)

[little osprey]

man..

these builds are just craaaaaaaaaaaaaaayz

[cyan ravine]

and then reality
https://i.redd.it/bc9l6842ny541.jpg

[little osprey]

still looks hot

ngl

[earnest olive]

(please don't, i come here when i have free time to help out, i have a busy life and i'm not being paid to be on call here)

[cyan ravine]

it's a really good case

[little osprey]

.. i was joking sir

[cyan ravine]

and G360a made it even better

[little osprey]

ofc im not gonna bug you

[earnest olive]

just needs braided cables and a better photographer lol

[little osprey]

speaking of cables

[cyan ravine]

and better lighting

lol

[earnest olive]

you don't want to know how many dms i got at 4am asking easily googleable questions

[little osprey]

should i get those connector cables thingies

[earnest olive]

falls under better photographer but yeah

[little osprey]

i don't blame you 😛

[earnest olive]

let's just say that this is here for a reason

[cyan ravine]

you could if you want. this isn't a higher power gpu

[earnest olive]

(some people ignore it anyways)

[little osprey]

i saw that when i wanted to send you a friend request just now

then decided not to 😛

[earnest olive]

me powering a 1000w gpu with extensions: