building-and-recc-chat

[obsidian wigeon]

and most mobos does list wifi in their name

or ac/ax branding

[untold vessel]

Where can I find this

[obsidian wigeon]

well, you gotta click into the listing itself

[potent portal]

There's a filter for wifi on pcpp

[untold vessel]

Found it! Thank you!

What do all of you think of this build? It's use-case is 4K video editing, 3D modeling, and Gaming.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bxwx9r

[empty pollen]

was not the same bacca built in the morning? o.O

looks pretty ok and im glad you ditched the 4k monitor

[potent portal]

~~You could swap to a slightly cheaper mobo and get better memory https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Kfvp3y~~

~~Oh right you wanted wifi, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VDZ64s~~

[fossil cedar]

Pssst, b660m mortar wifi is 10$ less and also you included 2 different ram kits

[potent portal]

Well the ram was a slip-up but I don't like to recommend mATX unless it's super budget or a micro build

Now with only one ram kit https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bLyjW4

[untold vessel]

Damn, these are beautiful

[fossil cedar]

Fair enough, can also go asus tuf 750w for like 59 iirc

[untold vessel]

Yeah, we're going for ATX with wifi so it fills out the 4000D

[untold vessel]

I like the sound of that! Where can I find it?

[fossil cedar]

Nvm, tuf 650w, 750w went back up in price

[untold vessel]

tuf 650w > evga 650w?

[fossil cedar]

Gt and tuf are about as good yes, tuf is just cheaper

[untold vessel]

ah

[stoic island]

Gt prob better than tuf tbh

[tough jungle]

in efficiency, yes

build quality is similar

[half iron]

Can someone help me out with how to fix the orange light that show up when I boot my computer it says Dram

[fossil cedar]

Try take out the ram and put it back in

Make sure it's in slots 2 and 4 if you only have 2 sticks

If that doesn't work clear cmos

If that doesn't work try only one stick in each slot and then same with other stick

[half iron]

Ok

And if that doesn't work is the cpu pin maybe?

[fossil cedar]

Unlikely... Especially if it just stopped working

[half iron]

I should have mentioned it a new pc build brand new

I built it

[empty pollen]

and no post so far? hopefully are the dimm slots only

[half iron]

Thx you wither way I just got the green light

Either*

[fossil cedar]

Cool

[half iron]

Thx I can boot now

[empty pollen]

nothing a good ol' white rubber cant solve

[half iron]

To the right of the blue is flashing red is that a problem?

[empty pollen]

is everything running ok?

[mossy venture]

If you want 2tb of storage, the p31 2tb is on a great sale for $170 rn

[empty pollen]

that led blinks when some process is active on your pc

Its an "activity" blink, like loading a program

[jagged ember]

probably just the hdd led

telling you it's doing something

[half iron]

Yeah

[fossil cedar]

Huh?

[empty pollen]

pepperidge farm remembers

[sharp bear]

Is this an issue?

[empty pollen]

could be, some mobos have the bios up to date, some other need an update for the cpu to work, thats why the bios flashback is always a welcome addition on any mobo

[sharp bear]

what do I do in that case? / no clue how updating BIOS works

[empty pollen]

if the folks here recommend you that mobo for your 12400f you dont need to worry

it will work fine

[sharp bear]

it is the MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4

[frigid night]

just PCPP being dumb.

Your CPU will work on that MOBO out of box.

[empty pollen]

yup

[sharp bear]

aight crispy cool

[empty pollen]

could be a thing with the 13th gen, they will need a bios update on those mobos

but yours will work just fine

[sharp bear]

What do you think of this build?
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/2DbBrD

prices in Germany compared to the US are kinda too high

[frank stirrup]

@fossil cedar arrive

[fossil cedar]

I made a list yesterday

[tame moth]

When I’m on xmp profile only half my ram is detected. While off xmp profile all my ram is detected. Even when I manually raise speed to 3200 mhz only half is recognized. Mobo: asrock b550 phantom m-itx and ram vengeance 3200 2x16

[fossil cedar]

Decreased budget?

[fossil cedar]

Probably best to contact ram seller/corsair and get a replacement

[tame moth]

Should I try updating bios first?

[fossil cedar]

It's worth a shot but I haven't heard of that issue

[fossil cedar]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/j8JYW4

[mossy venture]

No

It won't need it, it's just pcp being stupid

It'll be up to date already

[sharp bear]

ye I guess the i5 12400f and the arctic freezer 34 esports will do the job

[fossil cedar]

Going 6750xt cuts price more for just as good card too

And saved bit of money on mobo and ram and psu

[sharp bear]

is "fractal design" good? / does brand matter in psu's?

[fossil cedar]

That's a great psu

[sharp bear]

great great, guess am going with this build then

but still not sure if 6750xt is the right thing

[mossy venture]

why?

[sharp bear]

nvidia feels kinda more premium lmao

[fossil cedar]

It's not

They're both good

Just cuz you're paying more doesn't mean it's better

[mossy venture]

youll either spend more for the same perf or spend the same for worse perf

[sharp bear]

does amd has its own record program etc.?

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[desert gulch]

Theoretically, slight chance isn't

[ornate condor]

alright I currently have xpg lancer rgb 6000mhz 32gb kit and wanna add extra 32gb kit but I wonder if same model can have different die

couse my current kit have hynix m die and stable overclocked to 6400mhz

[potent portal]

DDR5 right? Do not run 4 sticks DDR5 if you want to run above 4800

[desert gulch]

^

[ornate condor]

so gettin 2x32gb kit is better ?

[potent portal]

Unless you have a $800 high end overclocking board yes

[ornate condor]

not sadly

[potent portal]

Most boards using daisy chain topology can't hold the signal integrity good enough on DDR5. Some boards are so bad you have to underclock to 4400 just to get it to post.

[ornate condor]

oof

[potent portal]

There was a video explaining more, I'll grab it

[ornate condor]

I have strix z690-A

which is mid range mobo I guess

[potent portal]

https://youtu.be/Q8XLvZTqyX8

[ornate condor]

22 min

[potent portal]

Buildzoid does ramble a bit in his vids but it's all good info

[desert gulch]

I already slept, I don't need to sleep again

[ornate condor]

yeah I will check it out later but I working right now lol

dont have 22 minutes to watch it lmao

[potent portal]

If you have headphones you can just listen

[ornate condor]

2x32gb 6000mhz kit is alright right ?

[potent portal]

Let me check your QVL

Because a lot of the time no lol

[ornate condor]

https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-z690-a-gaming-wifi-model/ this one is my mobo

[potent portal]

Max they say it supports with 2x32gb is 5600 and it will be hard to run that

[ornate condor]

where can I find that info lol

[potent portal]

https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-z690-a-gaming-wifi-model/helpdesk_qvl_memory

Asus has a nice filter for the QVL

And the reason it's hard to run is in the video

[ornate condor]

oof 4400mhz for 4x16

[potent portal]

Yeah, like I said don't run 4 sticks lol

You can't even get the lowest jedec

[ornate condor]

looks like gonna stick with 32gb

[potent portal]

Z790 should be better in theory, since it'll be second gen on DDR5 and they'll have learned a few tricks

[ornate condor]

yeah and I saw some z790s leaked already

they still support ddr4

[potent portal]

Interesting. I mean it would make sense, the only thing to stop that would be Intel begging them to not put the D4 slots

[ornate condor]

probably next gen nopt gonna support ddr4 .

i mean 14th gen

[potent portal]

Next next gen yeah

Especially with AM5 being D5 only

[ornate condor]

dont expecting big upgrade with 13th gen

[desert gulch]

It will be quite huge in multi

RPL quite cool

[potent portal]

But also of note is AM4 isn't totally dead end, they'll still make something for it later. Probably low end parts.

[desert gulch]

Damn xt variants probably

[ornate condor]

lol

[potent portal]

Nah

[desert gulch]

A $400 5600xt that performs 3% better than a 5600x

[ornate condor]

13900k wen

[potent portal]

I saw an interview with one of the engineers and that's not it

[ornate condor]

5.8ghz

[desert gulch]

Hopefully it doesn't get nah worse

[mossy venture]

6000 series apus will be am4

[desert gulch]

The 5500 was already quite bad

[mossy venture]

desktop*

[ornate condor]

5500 is joke

[desert gulch]

I'd love to see a zen 3 quad core tho

[potent portal]

I thought 6000 was laptops only

[desert gulch]

And not a 5300g

I know that exists

And could do well in budget if they put out like a decent quad core

[ornate condor]

so looks like getting 64gb ddr5 not worth it

extend memory but slower speed

[desert gulch]

Thought amd said they'd be in am5?

[ornate condor]

only thing I like about amd cpus is fast comression which I dont use much lol

[mossy plaza]

Is there anything similar to this but cheaper?

[mossy venture]

yes

[mossy plaza]

what are they? lol

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dn8bt6/asus-tuf-gaming-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-tuf-gaming-650b B tier psu

or theres this as well, 850 A tier for $95 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WxZzK8/msi-mpg-a-gf-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a850gf

[mossy venture]

are you making a whole new build?

[mossy plaza]

yea

[mossy venture]

what country do you live in and whats the budget?

[mossy plaza]

I believe the max W I'd use is about 450 lol

[fossil cedar]

Itx? The ones frog linked won't work

[mossy plaza]

US and no budget I just want somethin cheaper

[mossy venture]

oh didnt realize it was itx

[mossy venture]

then you have a budget

whats cheap to you might be $700 to me and 1200 to you

[mossy plaza]

true

[fossil cedar]

You are building itx right?

And what specs?

[mossy plaza]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/MrPik/saved/yxQfdC

[fossil cedar]

No graphics card?

[mossy plaza]

I don't have a gpu in rn since I'm gonna just switch the one I have from the pc I'm using rn into it

[fossil cedar]

Which is?

[mossy plaza]

I have everything in this but the cpu, motherboard, case, and psu

[mossy plaza]

Nvidia GTX 650 lol

[mossy venture]

i wouldnt get that mobo

[mossy venture]

i would make a whole new build

[mossy plaza]

nah I am

the gpu would be a temp

[mossy venture]

what the budget for the rebuild atm?

[mossy plaza]

1 sec

[fossil cedar]

Oooooof

[mossy plaza]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M8Ln6r - 500 dollars max for the stuff that I don't have yet

[fossil cedar]

Should be able to get a new gpu tbh

[mossy plaza]

yea I can I'm just waiting for the right pricing before I actually buy lol

thats why I don't have it added and the gpu I'm gonna use is gonna be temp

[fossil cedar]

Pricing is good now

[mossy plaza]

yea I'm looking into em rn but I just wanna make the minor adjustments before I go 100% with everything in this

[sharp temple]

How do I update my B550 Gaming Edge Wifi Board?

I went to msi and downloaded the file and put it on a usb drive

then went to m flash

and selected the drive but there is no file in there

How do I update

Help

[fossil cedar]

@mossy plaza what kind of gpu you prepping to use

[mossy plaza]

probably a 1060

[fossil cedar]

Why? And they're like 120ish rn

[mossy plaza]

idk I just want something thats vr ready lol

[fossil cedar]

Rx 6600 is 300 new

Will kick it's ass

[sharp temple]

im trying to do this bc i want to see if the bios is the problem because 1/4 of my ram sticks wont light up

[mossy plaza]

ig so I just wanna spend not too much on a gpu lol

[mossy venture]

i would spend less on the rest of the build to spend more on a gpu

vr on a 1060 will not be fun

[mossy plaza]

what should I replace the rest with then?

[mossy venture]

are you deadset on itx?

[mossy plaza]

If I can get somethin cheaper ig not

[fossil cedar]

Could probably get one for 250 used if you look

If you don't mind going atx you can save about 50 on the psu, 20 on the mobo, 40 on the case

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qJjtW4

and then get a 6600

[mossy plaza]

hm alrighty

is an i5-2500 worse then this? lol

[mossy venture]

a lot

[spring hedge]

Can someone send me the best pc case for $120

[mossy venture]

q360a, 4000d airflow, p400a

are some that i like

[fossil cedar]

Atx
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VpyJk9
Itx
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c4KYW4

[fossil cedar]

G not q*

Lian li 215 is also nice for the price atm

[spring hedge]

is the ique 4000x good its on sale and its around that price range

[desert gulch]

May as well go gt650 or cx550

[fossil cedar]

No

[spring hedge]

ok

[fossil cedar]

Tuf is just as good and 6$ cheaper

[desert gulch]

Tuf b 650 for $60 is just too steep

[fossil cedar]

Gt is 65

[desert gulch]

$5 for full mod is worth

[fossil cedar]

Eh

[desert gulch]

Even if they don't know if they want it

[fossil cedar]

It's not they're going kinda budget

[spring hedge]

the price for that case is $115 is that its normal price?

[fossil cedar]

98$

[spring hedge]

for me its $115

[fossil cedar]

90*

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YCH8TW/lian-li-lancool-215-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-215-black

[desert gulch]

Then cx550f

[spring hedge]

oh on amazon its $115

[fossil cedar]

Requires mir

[desert gulch]

Ez to do, I received mine in 2 months

[fossil cedar]

2 months 💀

[desert gulch]

Imo tuf b for $60 is just too steep tho

Doesn't tuf b have teapo?

[fossil cedar]

It's just as good as gt etc

[desert gulch]

No mod

[fossil cedar]

Not worth it

Not when they're trying to save as much as possible

[earnest olive]

anyone else watch the GN video on transients

[desert gulch]

Yea

[spring hedge]

@fossil cedar so should i get the 215 or the 4000d

[earnest olive]

it was fun

[desert gulch]

Powenetics will be super cool

I wanna get one now

Its in the new HBI vid

[fossil cedar]

Nah didn't have the energy to watch it yet

[fossil cedar]

Up to you, 4000d airflow and lian li 215 are both good

[earnest olive]

it's not really any groundbreaking new info

so it's not a must watch

I enjoyed it tho

[fossil cedar]

Ah okay

[desert gulch]

Sips what's your opinion on this

[earnest olive]

on what

[desert gulch]

Cx550f for like sub $50 after Mir, tuf b 650 for 60, no modular tho, or $65 for gt650, which is full mod

On a build trying to keep costs low

[earnest olive]

isn't this the same guy that was waving around the 12900k 3080ti list for fortnite for 2 months

[desert gulch]

The mrpik guy?

[fossil cedar]

Mrpik not for flexy

[earnest olive]

oh

I'd go with the tuf b

[desert gulch]

Even without mod?

[earnest olive]

non modular has never bothered me much

I can cram non modular + extensions into a p360a no problem

[mossy plaza]

gotcha lol

[earnest olive]

imo modularity isn't really worth $5

[desert gulch]

Fair

You don't think Mir is worth either?

[earnest olive]

will choose modular over non modular at the same price

MIR is just unreliable and takes a while

and having 650w over 550w will be nice

[desert gulch]

If your Mir gets stuck on cxf, just ask jonny

xD

[earnest olive]

even if we're trying to keep budget low, skimping $10 on the psu isn't the way to go

just my opinion

[desert gulch]

You'd get a better quality unit by doing it tho

Tuf b uses teapo iirc

Basically a cx greatwall

[earnest olive]

what's the original price of the cxf

[desert gulch]

Cxf is full hec

Probs like higher than cx

[sharp temple]

One of my rgb ram sticks wont light up what do i do

[desert gulch]

Like MSRP?

[earnest olive]

also I've been messing with this laptop for 2 hours

and the 256gb ssd is already 1/3 full

lol

[desert gulch]

Damn

[fossil cedar]

65 kek

5$ more for 15 back later

2 months later

And 100$ less

[desert gulch]

You also get jonnys respect tho

I'm on his actual verified cxf owners smh

[earnest olive]

hmm

i still think id go tuf b tbh

[sharp temple]

Ram is reseated and changed spots, bios is updated still nothing

[sharp temple]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pchelp/comments/vj718y/tforce_rgb_ram_not_showing_up_on_14_sticks/

[still roost]

shini#1015 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[subtle sand]

Bruh

I need help with a build I'm doing

I think I'm having a hard time with the fornt panel connectors such as the power

[subtle sand]

Oh I got it

I just learned

Lmao

Wait

Why my fans have no light

;c

I need halp

Oh shi

My frist ever build I'm crying

[spiral vale]

Soon 👀

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FmKKHx/msi-pro-b660m-g-ddr4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-b660m-g-ddr4

this board any good?

would 12600k be ideal or nah

[potent portal]

... there's no heatsinks

[little osprey]

take that as a no

[potent portal]

Maybe a 12100 or lower

And is that only 10 total power stages? They cut every cost they could

[empty pollen]

thats a very lonely mobo 😦

[earnest olive]

throwback to Z series motherboards having 4 power stages

[forest briar]

Just missing my GPU…. It cleared customs today so hopefully I have it by Saturday

[desert gulch]

should handle a 12400f probs

[potent portal]

With direct airflow maybe

[desert gulch]

or garbage

[spiral vale]

Nice nice!

[forest briar]

Hell yea

I’m so excited

Send me a pic when you’re done

[spiral vale]

Ok ✅

[forest briar]

I’ll show you mine if you show me yours

[spiral vale]

[rigid oracle]

https://a.co/d/gRA1Fw3 is this a somewhat decent budget build? I've got a friend who's looking to do some light gaming but doesn't want to spend much. It looks like it can play games decently, not the best but not the worst. Looks a little sketchy on amazon though....

[mossy venture]

no it is not

that pc is as old as me

whats the most you can spend?

[jagged ember]

that's terrible

[mossy venture]

this is MILES better, can get some parts used https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YCMBrD

[rigid oracle]

they're looking to spend less than $600

[mossy venture]

ok, one sec

[rigid oracle]

oh ok

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J49fmr do this and throw a used gpu in

oh wait

forgot to change ssd size, one sec

[rigid oracle]

hmmm how does a GTX 1650 Super sound

lol

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2v2p3y there

[rigid oracle]

i somehow managed to snag an RTX 3060 during covid

[mossy venture]

leaves $200 for a gpu

[rigid oracle]

idk how but its a great budget gpu imo

[rigid oracle]

bananas

[mossy venture]

id aim for a 1660/s, 1060 6gb, 1070,

[potent portal]

You can get a 1080 for under $200

[mossy venture]

with some luck, yeah

[potent portal]

Almost as good as the 3060

[mossy venture]

might have some issues on the 450w psu though, no?

[rigid oracle]

only problem is they kinda live in a diff state and they have no idea how to build a PC

soooo

idk how i'd do that

[mossy venture]

that kinda sucks

[potent portal]

Guess it's 5600G prebuilt time

[rigid oracle]

i mean its not that hard but like

[mossy venture]

could you guide them through it in vc or smthn?

[rigid oracle]

the idea of building a computer usually scares most people

oh yeah

i could

[mossy venture]

because at that budget its near impossible to get a good build

[rigid oracle]

how much does microcenter charge

to build a PC

[mossy venture]

no clue

[rigid oracle]

hmm

[potent portal]

I think it was around $100

[rigid oracle]

so that leaves $100 left for the GPU

not to mention peripherals

[mossy venture]

which isnt much

wait peripherals are included in the 600?

[rigid oracle]

idk

lol

[mossy venture]

i would recommend saving some more if its possible

[rigid oracle]

yeah id agree

i got a crap monitor for $80 when i first got my pc

it worked fine, it was just 1360x768 at 60hz

now ive got a 1080p monitor at 165hz 💪

[mossy venture]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali491-challenger/p/N82E16883360086R?Description=ABS 1660 open box&cm_re=ABS_1660 open box-_-83-360-086R-_-Product&quicklink=true if they can save a bit more, this isnt the worst thing to get

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala247-challenger/p/N82E16883360151R?Description=ABS 1660 open box&cm_re=ABS_1660 open box-_-83-360-151R-_-Product or this, a bit cheaper

[rigid oracle]

that actually looks good

[potent portal]

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-0012-003F9

If prebuilt is a must under $600

[mossy venture]

fair warning for that though

upgradability is nonexistent

[rigid oracle]

oof

[mossy venture]

oh wait

one second

https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/ConfigureView?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&catEntryId=3074457345619629318&urlLangId=&quantity=1 can get this with this ram https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zBTzK8/silicon-power-xpower-turbine-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-sp016gxlzu320bda

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mwrYcf/seagate-barracuda-computer-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm008 and this hard drive

and thats just a little over budget

[rigid oracle]

nice

[mossy venture]

still can do better with the custom build, but if they cant build themselves theres worse

if they can spend more, $40 more for the 1650s is worth it

looks like that about covers all the options

[rigid oracle]

yeah

man i need one of those hard drives lmao

my windows 10 and normal files are on one SSD

512 GB lmao

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9wVmP6/western-digital-wd-blue-4-tb-35-5400rpm-internal-hard-drive-wd40ezaz this is kind of attractive ngl

[rigid oracle]

hmmm my pc has never seen a HDD lmao

i have 2 solid states in my computer

one of them i got for free at microcenter

256 gb SSD

which i filled up in like a day thanks to modern games

[rigid oracle]

would this make for slower loading times tho? or is this relatively fast

[still roost]

Ratintosh#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[rigid oracle]

whoops

[mossy venture]

its fine enough

[rigid oracle]

holy crap i just saw the price of that HDD

thats amazing lol

for 4 tb

[mossy venture]

@potent portal any idea on quality?

[potent portal]

WD Blues aren't super fast but they are pretty reliable

7200 Blues are faster at least

[mossy venture]

4tb reliable hdd for $60

nice

[rigid oracle]

lol

thats all ya need to know

im waiting for SSDs to drop in price

do yall think that'll happen anytime soon?

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/C3xbt6/team-mp33-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6002t0c101

mp33 2tb for $140

[rigid oracle]

not bad

[desert gulch]

just dont get if you like to write stuff somewhat often

thats why imo mp33 2tb is kinda a niche item in a way

[potent portal]

Don't get what? The SSD? They're great for that

[rigid oracle]

you can write to them a bunch and they'll be fine

[desert gulch]

mp33 on longer writes kinda dies

[rigid oracle]

o

[potent portal]

I have a 5 year old $30 M.2 drive that still reports 100% health

[desert gulch]

damn

[potent portal]

Not even kidding

[rigid oracle]

my chromebook says its internal hard drive is named "MMC/SD", is the hard drive really a frickin SD card

cus if so thats hilarious

[potent portal]

eMMC is a little different but not much

It's the same as phones use

[rigid oracle]

i mean it is 32 gigs

ah

its not upgradable i assume

[potent portal]

nope

[rigid oracle]

i recently burnt a UEFI bios to my chromebook's ROM chip bcus i got tired of the legacy bios thing

scariest 5 minutes of my life

but it works great now

[desert gulch]

once the cache for the mp33 is full, it slows to like 185MBps

so yeah if longer writes are your thing, look somewhere else imo

what?

ones a ryzen board and one is intel 12th gen

[spiral vale]

Oh

[rigid oracle]

why does crystal disk info have an anime girl on it like is it really necessary lol

[desert gulch]

ofc its necessary

[rigid oracle]

niiiiice

my SSD is about i think 1 or 2 years old and its at 96% rn lol

[potent portal]

They do have the regular version but Shizuku is cute so why not

[rigid oracle]

lol

[desert gulch]

falcie, what would you rate ryfa?

[potent portal]

The Ryzen girl?

[desert gulch]

yea

[potent portal]

On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being instant waifu I'd say a 7

[rigid oracle]

bro why is there so much anime in the computer world

[empty pollen]

not only in the computer world

[potent portal]

Probably because you can enjoy it in the computer world without being judged like you would irl

[empty pollen]

is a global trend

[rigid oracle]

lol

[strong raft]

More than 2x writes of Fal cie at 27TBW, so pretty good considering.

[strong raft]

Mostly becase of the internet. You're welcome

[rigid oracle]

i do a lot of programming on my SSD, it’s not just gaming, also windows uses the same SSD, jeez i’m killing my SSD lol

i think programming would be best on a HDD because virtually unlimited writes

[empty pollen]

well, was designed with heavy use in mind

technically you are using it, not "killing it"

[rigid oracle]

yeah you’re right

killing it would be putting a zip bomb on it

[empty pollen]

or defragmentation

that will be a killer move

[rigid oracle]

i almost defragged my SSD once and then i realized SSDs don’t need that

[strong raft]

The health is almost literally just the current TBW anyways.

[rigid oracle]

id estimate my SSD will last me another 5 or 10 years

plenty of time

maybe even longer

[spiral vale]

Will a T-Force Vulcan Z DDR4 32GB Kit (2x16GB) be compatible with this mobo? https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144543

[strong raft]

Nope, ddr5 mobo. Get a ddr4 mobo bruh

[rigid oracle]

incompatible parts is my nightmare

it’s annoying researching that stuff too imo but it pays off

[spiral vale]

Ok, Thankyou

[strong raft]

Pro tip, big rigs also don't run on gasoline, usually.

[empty pollen]

annoying? researching tech things is very enjoyable, at least for me 😛

[rigid oracle]

wait really? my PC is running on gasoline

gotta take my PC to the gas station every week

[empty pollen]

just dont smoke while you compile 😛

[rigid oracle]

the gas station vacuums are good for cleaning dust from the fans ;)

[strong raft]

Power out & generator going, that's when a pc runs on gas/diesel, lol. -- I just have a good big air compressor. Use once a month or so. Edit, yes I want an UPS. Power is crap in CA sometimes.

[rigid oracle]

during a bios update

[empty pollen]

thats a good question.... new mobos can be saved if the power is cut out while you are flashing the bios? or still a brick will happen?

[rigid oracle]

EPROM tools exist right

[empty pollen]

like flashing your 660 or 690 for a 13th gen bios and suddenly zap, blackout

thats one of my greatest fears

[rigid oracle]

bad timing lol

[strong raft]

Pro tip, have a mobo w/ flashback* & a 2nd bios.

[rigid oracle]

i bricked a kindle because i was stupid and didn’t research if what i was flashing was compatible

red screen now

and idk if it’s the LEDs but it gets hot after some time

[empty pollen]

the flashback button can save a bios from that eventuality?

[rigid oracle]

my dog ate my bios chip

[strong raft]

Idk, flashback is for just plugging in flashdrive w/ bios & you hold the mobo button, not needing internet or even a monitor. I'm not 100% if that could undue a bricking Though

[rigid oracle]

basic input output dog

so what does a bios update look like cus i’ve never seen one

[strong raft]

Not much to it. Varies by mobo sometimes. Normal way plug in drive w/ new bios version, go in bios to Qflash or w/e then update. Couple min process. Bios file is literally just a few MB.

[potent portal]

Like under the hood? Just a bunch of encoded hex

[strong raft]

@honest anchor no rgb best rgb.

[wide sparrow]

Hey guys. I'm new here..I have a billion dollar budget. Need a parts list
. thanks

[mossy venture]

one sec

[wide sparrow]

Thank you ..I just want a computer for my emails

[mossy venture]

here you go sir https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JhQTrD

[wide sparrow]

Ah shucks...you can't do a billion dollars? I need to loosen up this pocket change @mossy venture

[mossy venture]

my paypals open

[wide sparrow]

Want to spend all of it on a PC tho

Sad...going to the NZXT server for help

[potent portal]

I bet you Dell would be happy to part you from your money. You could spend a good $400k on a server.

[wide sparrow]

Ok. I will look at Dell.. thank you, guys

[mossy venture]

happy to help

[topaz kestrel]

ive been wondering this for a few days now, whats the best possible cpu for a minecraft server someone could buy? i heard its about higher clock speed but im not 100% sure

[mossy venture]

3995wx

or that one amd epyc cpu

7203?

[potent portal]

Or new Zen 3 Threadripper when it comes

[topaz kestrel]

anything under like a grand? i know its a strange request but im asking for a friend so im not 100% what he wants lol

[mossy venture]

12900k or 5950x then

[topaz kestrel]

aight ty

[potent portal]

12900k 100%

[topaz kestrel]

is there a reason why?

[mossy venture]

e cores might get a lil funky, no?

[topaz kestrel]

yeah i read 5950x is better on le google but i dont trust it lol

[potent portal]

Nope, not if it's the latest version of MS server

[mossy venture]

then id go 12900k too

[potent portal]

Or just use Win11 and set up the hosting stuff manually, much cheaper

[topaz kestrel]

another question, would you guys mind putting together a quick "reference" pc part picker list i can base it off, 1400 ish gbp

[mossy venture]

for server hosting?

[topaz kestrel]

yeah'

[mossy venture]

or gaming in general

[topaz kestrel]

server only

[mossy venture]

im not sure if hosting requires anything in terms of gpu

[topaz kestrel]

it doesnt

i already have a 1070ti for it anways

[urban oyster]

I mean if your hosting a server the real question is what is this server being used for?

If I may ask

[mossy venture]

32gb or 64

[topaz kestrel]

64

[topaz kestrel]

rpg type server, 150+ bosses, quests etc

and also an smp on the side

[urban oyster]

Ah okay

So it’s not like a Minecraft server lol

[topaz kestrel]

it is

[mossy venture]

do looks matter?

[urban oyster]

Oh hmm

[topaz kestrel]

it could look like a dog for all i care xd

[urban oyster]

You perhaps want speed than

[empty pollen]

more like cpu core frequency

[urban oyster]

Indeed

[mossy venture]

smthn like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cT2p3y

[urban oyster]

A thread ripper perhaps

[empty pollen]

he want it under 1k

[topaz kestrel]

anyone got any change idea's, if not, i appreciate the help

[topaz kestrel]

1.4

[urban oyster]

I could build a thread ripper under 1k lol

[mossy venture]

pato best person to ask

[topaz kestrel]

pato is my old pal

[mossy venture]

i dont know servers well, so i would def seek a second opinion

[urban oyster]

I built mine for 1k using eBay

[empty pollen]

pato is love, pato is life

[urban oyster]

Then sold it

[topaz kestrel]

honestly, as long as it runs fast, doesnt die on him, and has room for upgrade if it ever needs it, im happy

[urban oyster]

Cause I wasn’t using it for server purposes

Ask demonit I sold it to him lol

[topaz kestrel]

he is the guy who builds cool pc's isnt he

[urban oyster]

Yeah I build pcs as well

[topaz kestrel]

if i remember he has a cool build room

with lots of boxes

[urban oyster]

But mine are more efficiently built I don’t use rbg as much I have a different build style than most

[topaz kestrel]

i personally hate rgb, just cus it hurts my eyes after having it too bright

[potent portal]

There's Z690 bundles I'd look at too on Newegg

[topaz kestrel]

ty my friend

[urban oyster]

I have what you would call a mid max build style lol

Muffin if you don’t mind may I dm you?

[topaz kestrel]

feel free

[desert gulch]

forks posted a 64gb kit of mjr in techdeals that was cheaper

used but whatever

[mossy venture]

oh forgot about that

[desert gulch]

but yeah idk much about servers either tbh

at least, that high end of ones

i can do like little mc servers and stuff

[potent portal]

Servers you definitely don't want DDR5 yet, at least not until stability issues with more than 1 stick are worked out

[forest briar]

@honest anchor Nice cables

amazing what custom cables do to a build

[subtle sand]

After I build the pc I need to download drivers but got no internet connection. I have a usb drive that I'm gonna use to install drivers on it to transfer it on this computer. Wha website do I need to download from to get the drivers I need?

I heard driver pack offline is a option what else

[potent portal]

What motherboard

[subtle sand]

That's the one I have

But I don't have internet connection to download any driver online so I need to go to other computer rip

[potent portal]

Wifi https://download.msi.com/dvr_exe/mb/intel_wifi_driver_W11.zip
Ethernet https://download.msi.com/dvr_exe/mb/realtek_pcielan_w11.zip

[subtle sand]

Oh shi thanks

[potent portal]

Once you have network connection the rest are here https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-Z490-GAMING-EDGE-WIFI/support#driver

[subtle sand]

Wait can I use my phone as a usb drive

[potent portal]

Yes

Browsers will put things in the Download folder by default, and if it's Android you'll just need to change the connection mode to transfer files.

[subtle sand]

I see

Idk what to say but thank you very much

After I downloaded it do I restart

[jagged ember]

yes

[lilac ember]

What is better for everything amd or intel

[subtle sand]

Welp

It saids undifferentiated network

[mossy venture]

Currently, 12th gen wins in price/perf

[lilac ember]

That is intel

[boreal notch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JfFjW4 hey guys this is my friends pc that he plans to build does it look ok?

[obsidian wigeon]

don't use driver packs tbh

they usually suck

[obsidian wigeon]

that's bad lol

you can get i3 12100f for less

mobo already bought is the sad thing

and you don't even need to pay for windows

an aio is uneeded for a pentium

[boreal notch]

he says he already has the motherboard, cooler, case

[obsidian wigeon]

damn

that's some real heckup right there

try to find an i5 9400f used i guess

imma redo some stuff

but honestly, i can only say nothing but to tell your friend to return all those things asap

especially the mobo

case is good

[mossy venture]

I cant tell if that's a joke or not

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

same

[mossy venture]

I wouldnt even use that aio

Isn't it known for being leaky?

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

leak master

[mossy venture]

If he's able to, return what he bought

[boreal notch]

its really not

[obsidian wigeon]

jesus

where did they get advice from?

no one in their right mind buys b365 board rn

[boreal notch]

he says he bought it all during an amazon tech sale so he can't return it

[boreal notch]

I have no clue

[obsidian wigeon]

im sure he could

just cause it's on a sale

[boreal notch]

I didn't give him any

[obsidian wigeon]

it doesn't mean those orders can't be returned

i can make a better build than this for similar price

a lot better

[mossy venture]

What you can do for the same price

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3kTX2m

[boreal notch]

yes please

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah what bacca did is what i would go

[mossy venture]

That is a MUCH better build

Cpu will destroy any cpu other than the 9900k that can run on that mobo

6600xt is miles better than the 1030

[obsidian wigeon]

probs costs less too

[mossy venture]

And all around quality is better

[obsidian wigeon]

considering that mobo isn't listed in price

you can still have rgb ram and it would cost less

[boreal notch]

thanks for the help

[mossy venture]

Happy to

[obsidian wigeon]

i wanna see who told them to get these parts

cause the choice was so poor

[timber marsh]

Anyone know a good case with no side window?

[bleak aspen]

does anyone know any rgb fans that are cheap and reliable?

[obsidian wigeon]

arctic p12 argb

[obsidian wigeon]

mx330-g is one i can think of

the air version

[timber marsh]

Ty

Do you also by chance know a good motherboard for the i5 12600k? I wanted something with wifi but can't seem to find one under 200ish

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

honestly oc is not an absolute need

just get 12700f imo

board can do with msi b660m-a pro wifi

[timber marsh]

Is it more expensive Xd

[obsidian wigeon]

not really

[timber marsh]

Alright

[obsidian wigeon]

you still spend less with 12700f and that board

[timber marsh]

K ty

[subtle sand]

Nothing work sadly

[honest anchor]

thanks 🙂

[forest briar]

I got some white and blue cables for my new build

Hope they look as good

[timber marsh]

Can someone check this out and give their opinions, I'm just curious about what could be changed

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dNP2rD

[desert gulch]

what use case?

[timber marsh]

Ideally I was going for a blackout approach with white led ram and fans but not sure

1080p light gaming, school work

[mossy venture]

There's a lot I'd change about this

12700f is super overkill to pair with a 3060 for gaming

[timber marsh]

Let's hear it :)

[mossy venture]

Give me a min, I'll make a list

[desert gulch]

sure

[timber marsh]

K

[desert gulch]

i would but im in lobby rn

[timber marsh]

I'm not building it now, at the point when I do build ill probably purchase to one of the 40 series gpus assuming prices don't go through the roof like last launch

[mossy venture]

What's the budget for the whole build?

[analog pulsar]

👀

[timber marsh]

Ideally around $1300 but I can probably do max of $150p

[mossy venture]

Also in that case, 12700f might be warranted

[timber marsh]

1500

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wKpqbK I'd do this and change gpu around as you have to

But prices change

What's a good buy now might be terrible two months from now

[timber marsh]

Yeah

[mossy venture]

So I'd check back in with us before you build

[timber marsh]

I'm kinda at a conflict between going all out rgb and keeping it blackout with white led

[mossy venture]

For me, idc about looks

[timber marsh]

At the end of the day I just want performance and don't care too much aby the look

[mossy venture]

Performance is performance

[timber marsh]

Ye

[mossy venture]

Can always add in rgb strips later on

Anyways, I'm out

Want to watch anime

[timber marsh]

Lmao cya

[subtle sand]

Holy shi

The pack actually works

Welp

Time to download stuff then

[obsidian wigeon]

bruh

those packs probably give some outdated drivers tbh

[subtle sand]

Yea I just need ethernet to dowload the ones I need

[tame crater]

Does anyone know a solid 1.1-2k build? Want to build my first pc next week

[mossy venture]

Are you gaming?

[tame crater]

Yea my bad should've put that

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ktKyxs

Make sure you buy the cpu from the non sketchy amazon seller

The $160 one is weird

[tame crater]

Preciate it

[desert gulch]

i only see one $160 seller

the legit amazon one is showing as $170 for me

[analog hearth]

just go B&H

[desert gulch]

$10 moew

more

[mossy venture]

The $160 one is a sketchy seller

Unless it's a diff seller from the last time I checked

[desert gulch]

ye ik just $170 eeeeeeee for 12400f

why cant we have $160 12400 non f reeeee

[mossy venture]

I mean, could do 12600kf and 6650xt

But would just be worse gaming perf

[desert gulch]

yea

[mossy venture]

Well actually

If switched to mp33 1tb, then could do 12600kf ye

But the p31 2tb is such a nice deal

Imo worth it for most people

[mossy venture]

If you like this one more, it works as well https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8dMqbK

Just 1tb less storage to have the better cpu

And a bit worse ssd, though you won't notice a huge difference for gaming

[strong raft]

We did, just saying. (temporarily) -- Personally I'm skipping the 12600K until it's near $230 again, if it is. -- For Forg/Aj, yea another P31 vote.

[ripe spear]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tk8bt6/intel-core-i5-12600kf-37-ghz-6-core-processor-bx8071512600kf there was a 12600KF for 240$

[strong raft]

Ah not bad. Yea them E cores don't do much in my games. I'd probably just save the moderate $70ish w/ the 12400F. Plus, later option to maybe sell 12400F at a small loss then switch up to 13600K or w/e. I'm still back to attempting to sell my RKL setup for a bit (not on Ebay, yet).

[ripe spear]

Ya but a 12600K you can still OC

Well KF

[obsidian wigeon]

the ocing benefit is minuscule tbh

[frigid night]

OC is OC in my eyes.

pushing more performance not matter how much.. is more performance.. this is also coming from a standpoint that power consumption means nothing to me.

[fossil cedar]

That's not even the biggest sell of the 12600k tbh

[ornate condor]

12600k is good cpu but intel prices went up somehow lol probably couse it was selling good

[analog pulsar]

okay i wanna start flipping pcs for profit bc i wanna earn some money so whats number 1 thing to look for

[forest briar]

Ask that character in here who supposedly has """""""11 businesses""""""""

can't remember their name

[frigid night]

I thought about buying all these parts that get put on super sale.. then building the PC and selling for the normal price of the parts + cost of time/knowledge to build it.

[analog pulsar]

well i found a airflow case on facebook for $50 off the MSRP

little dusty tho

also is $60 good for a 360mm rad

[fossil cedar]

Both those are decent

[worn wave]

https://slickdeals.net/deals/computer-parts/

Look on here on the daily

https://www.woot.com/

also here for stuff

Sometimes you can find really cheap deals

[frigid night]

I like Woot

I got a powerlink for my 1650s on there for $4

[fossil cedar]

That's like external extra power right?

[worn wave]

No, it moves where the plugs are

[fossil cedar]

Oh so just to make it look cleaner

[worn wave]

Incredibly ugly in my opinion, it makes nothing look better

[fossil cedar]

I don't see the point of it yeah lol

[worn wave]

At least with the use of custom sleeved cables it looks awful, I would rather see the cables

Non custom sleeved cables, it may look better?

[fossil cedar]

Eh idc much what my pc looks like so I'm the wrong one to ask lol

[analog pulsar]

LOL

[strong raft]

To me the powerlink is far less ugly than some people's setups w/ gpu cables strung up from the bottom or such. Power on the end was a common thing before 900 series. I just wish it was specifically only for evga.

[frigid night]

It reduces electrical ripple and noise lol not to just move the adapters

And I think it makes my 1650s look great

[frigid night]

@fossil cedar

[frigid night]

On a nice looking card yeah I can see it looking a little ugly, but it makes uglier looking cards look a bit cleaner.

[empty pollen]

not that the electrical ripples matter to the vrm on the card 😛

[frigid night]

Tbh, I was able to push a little higher stable OC with it on there.

[empty pollen]

i mean, more clean is always good, but overkill anyway

[frigid night]

So for $4.. worthittome

[empty pollen]

yeah..... its 4 bucks anyway

like one day without lunch, not big of a deal

[frank stirrup]

huh

[fossil cedar]

I don't see how lol

[empty pollen]

couple caps there i think

most likely

[desert gulch]

Yup ^

[frigid night]

Because the connectors connect into solid metal.

[worn wave]

Two caps

[frigid night]

I didn't know that though

[worn wave]

EVGA says themselves the primary purpose has nothing to do with power filtering

[desert gulch]

It does make the power nicer but it really doesn't have any impact unless you have a really crappy power supply or really really crap power and no ups

[desert gulch]

They also discussed the power too

[empty pollen]

yeah, a couple caps means next to nothing to the card's vrm anyway

[frigid night]

I guess.. I have an a tier psu and a ups, but it still allowed me to oc a little higher.

[empty pollen]

most of the time they do their job just fine

[frigid night]

Not a lot.. but a bit

[empty pollen]

but they can make an ugly card a little more nicer in the looks department

cant deny that

[desert gulch]

It shouldn't affect oc

[worn wave]

Lmao

[frigid night]

right it allowed me to have a more stable oc

Look the site can say whatever

[empty pollen]

your mind is playing with you by making you beleive they are doing something

[frigid night]

in my EXPERIENCE

[desert gulch]

Placebo effect imo

[frigid night]

it allowed me oc just a tad more

lol

[empty pollen]

like... you are deceiving yourself

to justify the purchase

😛

[frigid night]

nah

[desert gulch]

Justify the 4 dolluh!

[empty pollen]

imagine beign 4 dollars short of the next gpu upgrade

[desert gulch]

For 4 dollar it's good lol

[empty pollen]

damn

[frigid night]

I don't need to decieve myself. when I'm crashing timespy at a +160 clock without it, but passing it with it on there..

then I don't see how that's placebo

[desert gulch]

That's the only only setting you changed?

[frigid night]

that's +10 more than normal

Yes

[empty pollen]

dont mind it man xD it was only 4 bucks anyway and your card should look a bit awesome

[desert gulch]

Yeah the routing is nice

[empty pollen]

i saw it in the past and i thought... bulky thing on my power input... not my style

[frigid night]

meh, I'm not to bent.. just don't like being told I'm justifying when actual experience vs what you guys read on internet is differing,

[analog pulsar]

lol

[strong raft]

I'd happily buy another if I had an evga card. My own fault, but the single reason I'm not pleased with buying the PowerLink. Pretty sure it was only $5-6 for me also.

[analog pulsar]

is this worth price dont these normally go for like 400 even only local monitor i could fine LOL

[frigid night]

looks like the cheapest I can find for brand new is $290 with free shipping.. So if it's something you can get without having it shipped to you.. maybe not to bad a deal, but no warranty?

[analog pulsar]

bestbuy has 329 and amazon is $500

[frigid night]

Amazon is 379.99

[coarse coral]

Ordered new glasses yesterday and it says it's done being made and shipping soon.

[frigid night]

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-G34WQC-Ultra-Wide-Response-FreeSync/dp/B09JBLHBWJ

[analog pulsar]

oh theres 2 listings

[frigid night]

B&H Photo has it for $290

oh it's used for 290

yeah that's a good deal

[analog pulsar]

well guy lives very close

should i just do 275

[frigid night]

up to you.

but your screenshot literally says 379 lol

[analog pulsar]

yea the amazon one i only saw 459 from google search

[frigid night]

No warranty. Ask him if he can do a pixel test and whatnot on it while you are there to pick it up.

Or ask him if he is willing to do so before you go pick it up

[frigid night]

Oh.

Why does it look like there is something wrong with the screen?

[analog pulsar]

ikr

[frigid night]

that's sus

[mossy venture]

i forget what the word for that is

but i would not buy that

[coarse coral]

[analog pulsar]

@frigid night im asking plus it could just be dirt

but i mean if it turns on it should be fine

@frigid night also give me BH linlk

[frigid night]

If there is something wrong with it.. I'd rather grab the one for 290 that probably has a limited warranty

[frigid night]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/used/1662545

[jagged ember]

there's definitely something wrong with that panel

[jagged ember]

two weird patterns that clearly isn't dirt

[analog pulsar]

he says he can take video

[worn wave]

That is not just glare

[jagged ember]

yeah I don't think that's glare bro

[analog pulsar]

lol

[jagged ember]

no glare is that well patterned

[frigid night]

it's in 2 different photos from 2 different angles

that is NOT glare

[worn wave]

Get a video of the monitor displaying something.

[analog pulsar]

well theres many precontuons i can take

lol

[analog pulsar]

i am im gunna try to get everything like @frigid night plus im gunna meet guy IRL so i can see it in person too

[frigid night]

to me it almost looks like some sort of liquid got behind the screen somehow.. or he used some sort of chemical to clean it and it messed it up.

or maybe something spilled on it.

If it works and looks good.. cool... but for $15 more I'd just go with the BHphotovideo one

that way you get some sort of assurance.

because to me that's hecka sus

especially since he totally lied.

[analog pulsar]

@frigid night im sending a video of my own monitor

I feel like its just dirty

@frigid night

like something spilled idk

[worn wave]

Ever heard of cleaning?

[analog pulsar]

looka fine when gaming

hahaahhahahahahaga

@frigid night i mean yes he can be sus or ehatever but if ut displays and theres no like display issues then thata just dirt on monitor that needs cleamed

but im also meeting IRL not like im havung it shipped so if i dont like what i see i can just walk awat with my money

[frigid night]

I get it. Sometimes I overlook certain flaws just to get what I want RIGHT MEOW.

[analog pulsar]

i mean does it look like its here

idk

[frigid night]

Most definitely

[analog pulsar]

its to pixlated

[frigid night]

sticks out like a sore thumb

[analog pulsar]

I wanna buy same brand monitors just bc i like the design and it can fit on my desk

[frigid night]

That's why I have a G27Q and a G32QC lol

that matchy match

[analog pulsar]

@frigid night yea im trying to get like cheap used monitor i paid $299 for my M27Q

[obsidian wigeon]

meanwhile my laptop has a big ass square mark that's only visible on bright background

and an ant died inside of it

like bruh

[analog pulsar]

BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[obsidian wigeon]

but i cope with it anyway

it ain't too bad

[analog pulsar]

omg

what are ultra wide moniyore used for again

can you game on them

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

some games might not support em but if they do

it looks amazing

[analog pulsar]

oh

[obsidian wigeon]

it's so immersive to have a monitor that wraps around your field of vision

[analog pulsar]

hopefully i can get this monitor

[spring belfry]

When I plug in my psu, with switch off!!! The motherboard led comes on. What should I do. I’m mid build

[fossil cedar]

are you sure its not switch on

[spring belfry]

Yes

100%

[mossy venture]

is the psu plugged in...?

[spring belfry]

Yes

[mossy venture]

then unplug it?

[spring belfry]

I’m trying to ground myself

[cyan ravine]

Just unplugging the psu will tell you if it's got power or not

[fossil cedar]

what happens if you flip the switch the other way

[desert gulch]

And what psu is it

[fossil cedar]

also grounding yourself really not needed

as long as your not building on carpet

[desert gulch]

Doing it once before/during build is good

Since you can have a crap ton of static built up

But the highest risk of esd is either building on carpet or peeling those little plastic protective peelies

Those make esd like crazy

[analog pulsar]

i touch my pc without grounding myself

[desert gulch]

Lol

[potent portal]

Even then you're probably fine unless you're rubbing your socks on the carpet to generate static on purpose

[analog pulsar]

what are some good Security Cameras

[potent portal]

SimpliSafe are decent, and don't route your video through Chinese servers last I checked

You'd be surprised how many do

[analog pulsar]

lol

what chinese gunna see

ouch $99 for 1 camrea

[potent portal]

That's one of the cheaper options too lol

At least out of the ones that aren't total crap

[potent portal]

When I installed security systems we charged $600 per camera

[analog pulsar]

sheeeeesh

[potent portal]

It was financed usually

[analog pulsar]

i was gunna get a camrea for our garage something keeps eating water and cat food

[fossil cedar]

yeah indeed but I didnt mean like building on a table I meant like on the floor lol

[cyan ravine]

You could move the water and cat food

[potent portal]

I totally didn't build my 3k value computer on the carpet

[analog pulsar]

no

[fossil cedar]

removing techie rn

[desert gulch]

Could get a game cam