building-and-recc-chat

[flint sapphire]

If you scroll down on that it’ll show the thing I quoted…

[unborn mesa]

Right under

Think they’ll approve it?

[flint sapphire]

Yes it’s local and it’s in writing on their website

[unborn mesa]

Say less

Gon check if they got the 58x3d

Interestingly no

[strong raft]

tiger direct:

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-obi-wan-now-thats-a-name-ive-not-heard-in-along-time-gif-11814407

[restive halo]

Will I have to do anything if upgrading my 3700x to a 3900xt

[livid spire]

do you already have the CPUs?

my 3900X heats up a bit on the big wraith

if you're planning on slapping that

during summer time things might go a bit worse. it'll survive tho still

with a 360 AIO it shouldn't be a problem, but buy a different CPU if you want upgrade

[restive halo]

I have the 3700x in it now but the 3900xt was given to me for free. I have https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NfnxY9

@livid spire Is it worth the upgrade if it was free and by what I have

[livid spire]

yeah i'd slap that thing in personally

that cooler would do it justice (for a LF2 360 myself as well)

[restive halo]

@livid spire Heard. Thank you

[livid spire]

👍

[humble fossil]

se cooler master cases

[meager dew]

probably gaming, but im in no position to buy it lol

[unborn mesa]

Ayo whered you get the hat

[dense palm]

So I guess my cooler got stuck somewhere unknown

[unborn mesa]

Explain

[dense palm]

Was supposed to come Monday. Did not.

The only update from Amazon was: "shipment delayed"

which was on tuesday

no other update past that

Called customer service, said they will refund and I can keep the item

[desert gulch]

thats neat then

[dense palm]

said will come by yesterday or today

[hybrid ether]

Anybody have a recommendation for an L desk?

[unborn mesa]

Brooo no @dense palm

Same thing happened to me

It got canceled

Then i got it the next day then got charged twice had to call them to get one charge off my account

[dense palm]

Well we shall see

kinda annoyed since everything is supposed to come by today or tomorrow

[unborn mesa]

Itll be ight

[dense palm]

I ordered the 280mm version of AIO fan

maybe I will order the 240mm since it can come in 2 days

[still roost]

rychlost#6398 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dense palm]

Same *thing * can happen again

[bold prism]

What’s a good software to check on my pc parts?

[frank stirrup]

what pc part do u wanna check

or what aspect of pc parts

theres no single program really

[potent portal]

4k 60Hz isn't very good for gaming. Look at 1440p high refresh instead. You can use this to filter for features you want. https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/table

Next gen 4k high refresh should become more common but if you get a 60 Hz panel now you're stuck.

[desert gulch]

hwinfo64 is a great place to start

highly reccomended accurate hardware monitoring software

[restive halo]

How do I get rid of this?

[potent portal]

Run as administrator?

[restive halo]

I'll try

@potent portal Also I switched out my cpu and now nothing even turns on?

[potent portal]

Clear cmos

And reseat memory

[restive halo]

Ok

Trying now

[desert gulch]

who that?

quick mod xD

[restive halo]

Nothing still

[runic smelt]

Hey guys has anyone had problems with Ryzen 7 5800x overheating? I’m using a 360mm aio, switched to it from a 240 so I know it isn’t the cooler.

[mossy venture]

yes, but on a 360 you should be very fine

[restive halo]

I don't understand how just swapping the cpu made the entire system not get power at all?!

[mossy venture]

what 360 is it?

[runic smelt]

It’s an Msi core liquid, but as soon as i fired it up and looked at temps it was at 104°+

[mossy venture]

sounds like a bad mount or thermal paste

how much thermal paste did you use?

[runic smelt]

I’ve re thermal pasted it a few times now and i took it out and put it back in, could it be anything to do with mobo?

[mossy venture]

doubtful

how much thermal paste are you using

msi also doesnt have a good reputaton with aios

[runic smelt]

A pretty good amount

[mossy venture]

@earnest olive you know anything about the core liquid 360?

[runic smelt]

Before this 360 i used a Cooler master ml240 and it was still super hot

[earnest olive]

v1 or v2

[mossy venture]

how much paste compared to this

[earnest olive]

there was a recall for coreliquid v1

[runic smelt]

Probably more than that

[earnest olive]

I put a 240 coreliquid v1 on a customers build

was very good at first

but later on she told me she got shutdowns and 100c idle

RMA it and got a coreliquid v2

works great

[mossy venture]

this? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yyTzK8/msi-mag-core-liquid-360r-7873-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-mag-core-liquid-360r

[earnest olive]

but yes the coreliquid v1 has been recalled for pump failures

so you probably have a pump failure

[runic smelt]

I’ll go check which one it is

[mossy venture]

when did you buy it?

[earnest olive]

but

is it v1 or v2

it should say on the box if it's v2

in the product name

can't miss it

[runic smelt]

It’s from my girlfriends dad so i’m not sure when he got it or anything

[mossy venture]

ah

[runic smelt]

Just finding the box

[earnest olive]

it's possible a store sold you new old stock of v1

luckily msi customer service was completely painless

[runic smelt]

Pretty sure it’s v1

[earnest olive]

best rma experience I've ever had

if it doesn't say v2 it's v1

[runic smelt]

But the other cooler I had was the same temps

Could too much thermal paste cause this?

[earnest olive]

what was the other cooler

maybe you mounted both of them wrong

or maybe they both had bad pumps

if they're both coreliquid v1 that's very possible

[wary tundra]

I just switched out my 3600 for a 5600x and my pc won't post

[earnest olive]

did you bios update

[runic smelt]

Cooler master ML240, and it only started yesterday overheating. I had an os on it last week and was able to play games and everything fine

[mossy venture]

did you update bios

[wary tundra]

I have a asus b450 f motherboard

[restive halo]

Reseated ram. Took out close battery. Made sure psu is on. Still nothing

[earnest olive]

b450 needs bios update for zen 3

[wary tundra]

I have a static orange light

[mossy venture]

put the 3600 back in and update bios

or that mobo might have a bios flash button

some asus boards do, not sure which

[earnest olive]

yikes

before/after temps?

for me the coreliquid v1 was getting 18c idle when I installed it

when I got it back from the customer it was 100c idle

[runic smelt]

I hadn’t even checked the temps before while gaming, but around 40-50 when i did check

[earnest olive]

and it was hitting 100c idle with the ml240?

[runic smelt]

Yeah

[earnest olive]

and you swapped it out for coreliquid v1 and got 100c idle again?

[runic smelt]

And the before temps were with the 240, then they randomly got high that’s why i switched

[mossy venture]

have you overclocked it?

could be feeding it a ton of power

[runic smelt]

No haven’t touched over clicking settings

[earnest olive]

idle

[mossy venture]

though even that wouldnt make sense

[earnest olive]

100c on ryzen with 90c throttle limit

[mossy venture]

what are you viewing temp with?

[runic smelt]

BIOS

[earnest olive]

basically the only way to get 100c on ryzen is to effectively not have a cooler

if you're at 100c it means your cooling is so ineffective that even thermal throttling is failing

and it should slowly rise until 105c and shut down

[runic smelt]

I saw it hit 114 then shut it off

[earnest olive]

oh wow thermal shutdown is that high on ryzen?

thought it was 105

guess it's 115 then

[mossy venture]

how do you have the aio mounted?

[runic smelt]

Yeah i shut it off on my own though so i’m not sure what it is

[earnest olive]

well, we can assume that the first cooler was mounted correctly

since temps were fine for some time

just unlucky early failure

coreliquid v1 could be bad mount or could be failed out of the box

since that unit has extremely high failure rate

[mossy venture]

are the fans spinning in the aio as well?

[earnest olive]

I'd try remounting the coreliquid first

[runic smelt]

I’m pretty sure the core liquid was previously working in another build

Yeah fans are spinning

[earnest olive]

no fan spin wouldn't cause 114c in bios in short term

it would take a while to saturate heat as long as the pump is running

[runic smelt]

Yeah kt was 114 after running for about a minute not even

[earnest olive]

so either the pump is dead or it's a bad mount

try remounting it first

[runic smelt]

Okay

[earnest olive]

if temps are still high go RMA it and MSI will send you a coreliquid v2

v2 doesn't have the problem

[mossy venture]

what case is it as well?

[earnest olive]

they also pay for shipping both ways

[runic smelt]

It’s a corsair 4000x

[earnest olive]

case won't cause this either

lol

trust me

there's only two possible causes

[runic smelt]

Yeah it’s not the case

[mossy venture]

yeah, just curious to see where its mounted

[earnest olive]

nothing else it can possibly be besides bad mount or dead pump

even if it's a stupid bottom mount it wouldn't be this bad

[runic smelt]

Could it be anything in the bios

[earnest olive]

man

[mossy venture]

no

[earnest olive]

did I not just write this

[mossy venture]

i mean how bad would it be if an aio was mounted on something solid

and cooling itself with hot air

[earnest olive]

still not 114c in 1 minute

[mossy venture]

oh it was that fast?

[earnest olive]

unless you're literally putting it in 114c air

[runic smelt]

It’s mounted properly and the other aio got those temps, I just put this in and it was at 100 so i shut it off

[mossy venture]

didnt realize it was that fast

[earnest olive]

in which case

no you're not because you're dead

it would still take a while to saturate the whole radiator with heat even if you were purposefully blocking natural convection

[desert gulch]

How'd he mount it

Don't those pesky MSI core liquids have pumps in rads?

[earnest olive]

I mean his case does not support a bottom mount which is the only orientation that actually kills coolers

[desert gulch]

Not that one

[runic smelt]

I can’t send a pic for some reason

[earnest olive]

yes but the way it's placed makes it not possible for the pump to be the highest point in the loop

[desert gulch]

Ah ok

[earnest olive]

it's like in the middle of the radiator

[desert gulch]

Still wacky ngl

[earnest olive]

so no matter how you orient it it's just not possible

[earnest olive]

might be due to asetek patents

cause they're not partnering with asetek

I think the company is called apaltek

for coreliquid even if you mount rad on bottom of case the pump won't be highest point in the loop

and if you top mount it parts of the rad will still be higher than the pump

and if you front mount it either way it won't be the highest either

but front mounting is probably best for it anyways

[runic smelt]

It’s front mounted

It’s mounted correctly

[earnest olive]

just remount it to try

[runic smelt]

Okay

[earnest olive]

there's only 2 possible reasons

worth trying the one you can actually do by yourself

not that hard to remount it

don't even bother with new thermal paste

for just testing if the cooler even works

[runic smelt]

Okay remounting it

I really don’t think it’s the cooler though, if it is why did the other cooler randomly get such high temps

[mossy venture]

its very unlikely the cpu

[runic smelt]

Would be a pretty big coincidence for both to break at the same time though

[mossy venture]

i cannot think of anything the pc could do that would cause that

[runic smelt]

Remounted it now it’s at 72 in bios

Going up thoight it’s at 85

[mossy venture]

where do you have the aio sitting at in the case out of curiosity

is it on the mesh on the side panel?

[runic smelt]

It’s in the front

[mossy venture]

...on the glass part?

[runic smelt]

Lol no no it’s behind the fans

I can’t send a pic for some reason

[mossy venture]

okay so the mesh on the side panel

[runic smelt]

If you’re looking at the inside of the case it’s to the left of the fans

[mossy venture]

ok good

just wanted to make sure

thenn

it has the be the aio

[runic smelt]

But like, both? The first one worked fine until randomly last night, and this coreliquid was also working really recently

[mossy venture]

its possbile

[runic smelt]

Bout to put in a Vetroo lurker v360

[dense palm]

Guess I will just order the 240mm AIO fans

the 280mm still didn't come

smh

[restive halo]

@mossy venture On your 3060ti do you have separate Cords coming from the psu or a split

[mossy venture]

?

[restive halo]

@mossy venture you have the pcie Cords that split at the end for 2 connections or do you have 2 separate Cords coming from your psu to the gpu

[mossy venture]

my card is 1x8 pin, but you should use two different 8 pin cords if you have a 2x8pin model

[restive halo]

Ok so all I did was switch the CPU and now nothing gets power at all

[mossy venture]

try putting the old one back in and updating bios maybe?

since technichally 3900xt did release after 3700x

[restive halo]

Ugh lol

[mossy venture]

and if on very old bios would need a bios update

does it not boot at all?

or does it boot into bios

[restive halo]

Nothing

[mossy venture]

im not too sure

make sure cpu power cable is fully plugged in

might not be bios, could wait for someone elses answer

[restive halo]

@mossy venture do I have to re apply thermal paste if I'm just checking for bios?

Safe way to fix this??

[wary tundra]

sadge

could I put a crystal in my cp

trying to be a crystal mommy

[mossy venture]

that one looks like its blackened

somehow

could try bending them back into place

[rich void]

That looks like the lighting but idk

iFixit has some info on this: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/How+to+Fix+Bent+CPU+Pins/140367

Haven't done it before so can't vouch for their specific method

[winter marsh]

MC Hammer has arrived!!!!

I don’t have the AIO yet, so I think you know the song….

Maybe you don't so here's a hint....

[limber star]

Hi

Anyone able to help?

I took off gpu brackets on the back of case but when removing it feels like motherboard is coming with the gpu?

Is there a latch or something I’m supposed to press

[rich void]

Yes, there is a lock on the pci-e slot

I think it is in that pic. It's a little lever that you can depress. I think it is on the left of the slot in that pic

[potent portal]

He means this

[winter marsh]

Push down locks are modern, Pull Tabs are from the AGPx era

And it's time to build a budget gaming PC for a Co Worker

[leaden plume]

How do I install the motherboard through the io shield prongs

[dense palm]

https://www.amazon.com/quiet-BW007-280mm-Cooling-System/dp/B08K3NHL5Q

What are your thoughts about this

[mossy venture]

do you desire an aio

[desert gulch]

What CPU?

[dense palm]

Well I would like something cooler and quieter

12400F

[limber star]

It’s hard to clean that part

It’s hardened

Does it matter

[mossy venture]

yes

clean it off with isopropyl alcohol

[limber star]

Ok I will

What would’ve happened if I didn’t

[mossy venture]

wait

just so you know

use a piece of paper towel to do it

dont just dump it on

i would take it out first

and make sure it is dry before putting it back

[limber star]

Ok I will

What would happen?

If I didn’t tho

[mossy venture]

clean it?

cooling wouldnt be good

[limber star]

Ohh ok thank you

About to install it shortly

Wish me luck

😁

I take this ssd and put it on my new motherboard right

[dense palm]

Well I want an AIO for the RGB and cooling

But if others offer quieter sounds and similar performance I might just take it

since its taking forever to get it

[dense palm]

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Freezer-eSports-DUO-Configuration/dp/B07MJGNJB3/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=arctic%2Bcpu%2Bcooler&qid=1653009378&s=electronics&sprefix=arctic%2Bcpu%2Bc%2Celectronics%2C145&sr=1-3&th=1

how is this one

[potent portal]

Good for a 12400

[dense palm]

might just get it then

half the price

and can come in 2 days

[strong raft]

Non duo is only $40, but I'll say also glance at the $40ish peerless assassin. Perhaps slight overkill but will be nice n quiet

[desert gulch]

Just DO NOT BUY THE SE VERSION OF THE PEERLESS ASSASSIN 120

The non SE is good tho

[fierce lark]

Dang

[limber star]

I’m getting overcurrent after installing new motherboard?

[dense palm]

ordered the esports duo

[potent portal]

What do you mean? The power supply turns off? The bios is showing a warning?

[limber star]

@potent portal it’s on now

But I can’t leave bios

):

I think my ssd isn’t in all the way.. I guess

Is there a way to check my ssd

I’m bios

I’m

In**

[potent portal]

You've probably got a loose/misplaced something then

[limber star]

Nvme ssd selftest

Says no ssd

[potent portal]

You can see if the SSD shows on the main screen

[limber star]

So it’s that

Lol

[potent portal]

Seems right

[limber star]

Haha dang ok I’ll try again. It fit in tight etc

That’s so weird

@potent portal

Wait

Am I supposed to plug something into the ssd

All I did was put it into the ssd slot.. do I need sata or something

I re did it and it’s tight in there

[potent portal]

The one under the heatsink? No that's just direct board contact

[limber star]

Still not working

[potent portal]

Which drive did you get?

[limber star]

It worked on my other motherboard

[potent portal]

You might need to manually set the slot to PCIe 3.0 mode

[limber star]

Oh how is that

In the bios?

[limber star]

One of these ?

[spice prairie]

Any tips to improve my setup?

[potent portal]

Probably move out of Sri Lanka too

But that'll do in a pinch

[vague oracle]

And switch to CocaCola

[potent portal]

Going to have to block you now

[vague oracle]

You wouldn’t 😘

[potent portal]

(jk I don't care that much)

[little osprey]

what's some good sites to sell my pc on?

[vague oracle]

FB marketplace, JAWA, Craigslist, etc

[spice prairie]

I would sell locally due to pc’s being high value and i dont like the idea of shipping it out

[little osprey]

ah

ok

[potent portal]

Local is safer too, for both of you

[vague oracle]

^

[spice prairie]

^

[little osprey]

wth is a jawa

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/swtor-star-wars-the-old-republic-jawa-gif-22461334

[little osprey]

no

[vague oracle]

New EBay style website that’s basically meant for selling PC parts and PCs

https://www.jawa.gg

[little osprey]

ah

[south cliff]

f

[wary tundra]

hey I just installed my 5600x and im not getting that high of a performance boost as I thought I would

also temps are much higher

would I need to get new drivers?

[desert gulch]

No

Most games are GPU bound so most likely you wont see a ton of difference depending on the CPU you upgraded from

[wary tundra]

3600 to 5600x

[potent portal]

5600X is much hotter

But what paste did you use?

And cooler?

[wary tundra]

its not performing as well as I thought it would

like 4 plus fps

sadge

[potent portal]

Are you on Windows 11 by chance

[wary tundra]

I used artic silver paste and I have a h100i

[jagged ember]

240mm?

[potent portal]

Arctic silver 4? Eh, could be worse

[wary tundra]

240mm

also im on windows 10

[potent portal]

Ok so the 11 bug when you swap CPUs doesn't apply

[strong raft]

Gen 3 so I was gonna suggest just trying the other 2 slots

[potent portal]

I'd guess it's just a bad mount on the CPU, take off the block and put it on again. No need to repaste.

[wary tundra]

hmmm

its at 52c which is fine

[meager dew]

ah alright

[desert gulch]

Yeah no need to remount then

[wary tundra]

just the performance is wack

[desert gulch]

52c is chilly for a 5600x

What games and resolution and settings?

[wary tundra]

Im playing cyberpunk at 1440p medium to high settings and before the upgrade i got 45 fps in more populated areas and with the new one I get like 50

but higher temps

red dead at medium to high showed no difference

other games like rocket league and fortnite run fine

[frank delta]

1440p is more gpu intensive anyway

[wary tundra]

also one more thing every time I click on something else my cpu goes crazy and the temps go high

like if I click on another discord server it shoots up

[potent portal]

I hope that's 52 under load and not idle

[wary tundra]

52 idle omegalol

[potent portal]

Yeah bad mount

[wary tundra]

ops

my 3600 ran at 30 to 29c idle so I was confused

my load temps are 74

[potent portal]

Still, with a liquid cooler you want idle much lower

[wary tundra]

true true

[desert gulch]

@earnest olive whats your 5600x idle?

under the 360 rad

[frank stirrup]

5800x

[frank stirrup]

:)

this is fine

[desert gulch]

he had a 5600x at one point

[unborn mesa]

@earnest olive

[desert gulch]

under a 360 rad

[earnest olive]

like 35c

at 100% pump speed and full idle

[desert gulch]

yea

[earnest olive]

debloated OS

gaming on the 5800x rn at 38c

look at the cpu usage lmao

genshin takes less cpu than icue

[wary tundra]

my cpu utilization be shooting up for no reason

im trying to put off re mounting my cooler

I promie I will do it

updated drivers and its lowert but still wack

[earnest olive]

thats completely fine temps

[wary tundra]

idle

[earnest olive]

how many background tasks do you have

is your pump speed at 100%

[wary tundra]

yea

[still roost]

ye#2714 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[wary tundra]

do you know why my utilization shoots up when I click things *

forgot no bad words

[earnest olive]

because you're using the computer? lol

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[wary tundra]

hmm

im going to yell at it to make it stop

[obsidian wigeon]

it's normal behavior lol

[wary tundra]

so plus 20c when I click things is normal?

[earnest olive]

if you are gonna ignore questions then im not bothering to answer yours

[obsidian wigeon]

that's completely normal

[wary tundra]

Idkkkk how to answer ittt

[earnest olive]

then say so lmao

[wary tundra]

here

[obsidian wigeon]

that's just task manager

it includes everything

[earnest olive]

show your system tray

[obsidian wigeon]

even windows components

[earnest olive]

thats not your system tray

[wary tundra]

thats all

[earnest olive]

🤢

[obsidian wigeon]

tfw i hide my system tray icons

[wary tundra]

is this tray?

[earnest olive]

...

[obsidian wigeon]

not that

[frank stirrup]

u know u like it dont lie

[obsidian wigeon]

it's on the right side

[wary tundra]

currently malding

[earnest olive]

both of our screenshots included the system time lmao

it's the other side

[wary tundra]

ahhhhh

[earnest olive]

click the arrow

[obsidian wigeon]

win 11 gang

[frank stirrup]

is that

icue

[wary tundra]

yes

[obsidian wigeon]

that explains

[earnest olive]

lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

icue eats up cpu

[earnest olive]

if you have icue, your system has never been idle

[obsidian wigeon]

use openrgb

[earnest olive]

you have a ton of background processes and you're in a vc and have multiple softwares open

it's not idle

lol

[wary tundra]

I will close then

[obsidian wigeon]

the pc is being used

hence temps are higher

[wary tundra]

I understand I just have never had this issue

[obsidian wigeon]

you probably just never noticed it

[wary tundra]

maybe

[potent portal]

That and the 5600X is naturally hotter than the 3600

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

[frank stirrup]

ur naturally hotter than the 3600

:)

[earnest olive]

my 5600x ran 20c hotter than my 3600 with same cooler same case same power draw

[wary tundra]

closing some background stuff and Im running at 38c

nice

[earnest olive]

now get rid of icue for openrgb and set some stuff to not autostart

[wary tundra]

I got rid of icue

[earnest olive]

like, permanently

[autumn wolf]

so much cpu being eaten up

[frank stirrup]

someone take away statiks techie

he uses icue

@earnest olive do it rn

[autumn wolf]

i like my cpu being eaten up at 0%

[frank stirrup]

thats how much cpu its leaving free for u actually

[earnest olive]

all i remember is icue using more cpu than my games when i tried 3 keyboard effects

16% of a 5800x

[autumn wolf]

only person i know that has resources eaten up is mando since they have a lot of corsair stuff and a big profile for their setup

[restive halo]

@sullen spoke

[obsidian wigeon]

nice

lower than msrp

[unborn mesa]

Is changing a cpu basically plug and play or do i gotta update bios

[frank stirrup]

depends

[unborn mesa]

B550 f gaming mobo

Tryna goto a 5900x

[frank stirrup]

old cpu and bios version?

also either way staying on the latest non beta bios always a good idea

@unborn mesa

[fossil cedar]

Not always but generally

@unborn mesa you're okay because you're going from 5700g

Although check to see if there was security patches in the later ones good to do if so

[unborn mesa]

Ah ok thx

[unborn mesa]

Where i check this

[fossil cedar]

On the motherboards website under the support tab

Easiest way is googling the board

[unborn mesa]

Ah

This? @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Mhm

Stability patches are never something to look away from either

[unborn mesa]

Okay

For an nvme do i just put it in and and set up partitions on it ?

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[unborn mesa]

Ah ok

Gonna put in cpu and then nvme and pc build done

[frank stirrup]

id say always on non beta

[fossil cedar]

Fair

[ionic sentinel]

Hello everyone

I upgraded my motherboard from b450f to ASUS X570-E I get black screen with Qcode 02

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated

This motherboard requires bios update to run my ryzen7 3700X , I have already updated the bios and cleared cmos, tried different parts since I have 3 computers so I basically swiped all parts but the motherboard is not willing to work on this cpu you might now think that the cpu is dead but it works fine on the other 2 computers and I have also tried different display port, HDMI and many different things like different bios versions, the pc is working fine on ryzen 7 2700X but when I try my ryzen 7 3700x I get a black screen with q code 02

I really just wanna give up at this point but I still have some feeling its a stupid fix since i have seen many people who had the same issue with ryzen 7 3700x and X570-E... I tried everything they recommended but unfortunately none worked for me

PC parts
RX6700XT
RYZEN 7 3700X
X570-E
32 GB RAM CORSAIR RGP PRO 3200HZ
850W

[vague oracle]

You don’t have to update bios to run a 3700x

[ionic sentinel]

Warning: The Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard supports the AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor with BIOS version 0707. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, upgrading the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.

[vague oracle]

X570s released with 3000 series AMD

None require a bios update to run them

[ionic sentinel]

I tired before updating the bios same thing

[frank stirrup]

u sure the cpu is ok?

[ionic sentinel]

It works fine on my other computer no issue

B450f and B550

[vague oracle]

Did you try reseating the ram?

[ionic sentinel]

Yes I have tried that and also swiped all parts except the case

If I press F1 the q codes changes and pc seems to restarts or boot with no display

[frigid night]

Oh, I thought it was best to stay on whatever bios the mobo came with unless you had an issue.. so... should I update my bios to the latest? I'm currently on stock.

[unborn mesa]

Basically what they said to do

[dense palm]

I can finally start building this weekend

well if the cpu cooler comes I guess

[jagged ember]

if you have the stock cooler

you can just build it enough to test it

[frank delta]

@late fjord cheap fans for the dub😎

[late fjord]

That's the next thing on my list lol. They push enough air and my pc is cool enough. But would like some better quality and better looking fans lol

[frank delta]

Same here I just got some cheap up here fans to keep my system cool while I wait get quality fans

[late fjord]

Was thinking about aome lian lis to match the case. But I've heard mixed reviews so I'm not sure

[mossy venture]

Artic p12s

[frank delta]

See you recommend good stuff but aesthetically garbage

[mossy venture]

There's an rgb version my guy

And they look perfectly fine

[late fjord]

They would match my aio since it's artic

[mossy venture]

P14s also exist, same thing just 14cm instead of 12

[late fjord]

Yeah the fans I have now are one of the cheap ones with the remote control lol

[rich void]

Aesthetics is also quite subjective

P12s look fine to me

RGB is not my jam

[frank delta]

True opinions do exist

[rich void]

I guess if the fan literally looks like a pile or bag of garbage

[frank delta]

I’m trying to load pc with the thermal take ring quads but they are expensive af

[rich void]

Just say no to RGB and save some money

Embrace the T30

Make your PC function as a hovercraft on the side

[strong raft]

Sunon & Delta say hello. did you order a tornado

[livid cobalt]

Guys questions. rtx 4090 + 4k 120hz or 4090 + 2k 120hz/144hz

[unborn mesa]

4k ofc

Sn depends if you want performance or quality

Im guessing itll perform better with 2k for competitive gaming

4k for casual

[livid cobalt]

Can 4090 run 120hz in 4k? like red dead redemption 2

[unborn mesa]

Most likely since im pretty sure a 3090 can

[livid cobalt]

I mean 120 fps. I have seen people only getting 70fps

nvm

[rich void]

The 4090 hasn't even been announced yet, wait for reviews

With 30 series the sweet spot imo is 1440p

[strong raft]

We'll see, but 4090 is supposedly 2x speed of "3090" although I normally say 3080 ti since 3090 isn't really impressive in games. 4k in most stuff seems reasonable.

[rich void]

2x at what though

A rumor like that really isn't helpful

[strong raft]

Exactly

[rich void]

It's basically just the Nvidia hype train imo

[livid cobalt]

I was thinking about getting a 4k 120hz monitor or a 4k 60hz monitor

[rich void]

I wouldn't get a 60hz monitor at any res

[strong raft]

4k good, 60hz is scary. I grew up with nice CRTs, many young people nowadays didn't. I mean they didn't get used to almost no ghosting/input lag, etc.

[livid cobalt]

lol

[rich void]

Didn't get big and strong from lifting those behemoths either 😆

[strong raft]

Only 40 or 50 ish lbs also. Wasn't fortunate enough to get the bigbertha 21" models.

[rich void]

I can't remember how big my crt was back in the day, it was an armful though

[strong raft]

🤣 better gif than expected.

[rich void]

It was somewhere between 17 and 21in iirc

I also don't know if it was actually good, but I liked it at the time

[vague oracle]

I used to have one massive CRT TV in my basement before hurricane Sandy came along

[strong raft]

I had at least 2 that were a ViewSonic G90F. 90 meant 19" (18" viewable) & the F meant flatscreen actually. So awesome in FPS games. 1280x960 res was my usual.

[vague oracle]

It was like ~45” iirc and it was way too damn heavy

[rich void]

Yeah that's a team lift

[vague oracle]

I still remember my mom telling me “don’t sit too close or you’ll fall through the floor”

[strong raft]

Hah, reminds me my 27" Curtis mathis tv was a 1 person but the 32" front room tv was a 2 person lift*

[rich void]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-thats-a-good-tip-liz-lemon-30rock-thats-a-good-tip-good-tip-gif-19263931

[mossy venture]

What

4090 doesn't exist

Get a 1440p 165hz monitor, or a 4k 120-165 if you really want 4k

But 4k gaming kinda a meme

And 60hz sucks for gaming

[unborn mesa]

Ayo what

[rich void]

It's not on the market yet, so doesn't exist

[unborn mesa]

It doesnt exist for consumers yet basically?

[rich void]

It hasn't been officially announced, it hasn't been reviewed by third parties, it hasn't been released

[unborn mesa]

Oh

Its a concept basically

[rich void]

Well Nvidia has GPU dies that will presumably go to a 4090 product, or something like it, but yeah for consumers it's basically just the vague idea of the next gen of Nvidia GPUs

[unborn mesa]

Isnt a 3090 like somewhat newly released?

[rich void]

Not really

3090 released in 2020

[unborn mesa]

Hmm

Gon have look it up

September 24 2021

[rich void]

I think you mean 2020 there

[unborn mesa]

Says 2021

[rich void]

Well they're wrong 😆

[unborn mesa]

🤷‍♂️

[rich void]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/introducing-rtx-30-series-graphics-cards/

[unborn mesa]

Considering i didnt hear about a 3090 till around January 2022

[rich void]

Nvidia official announcement right there

[unborn mesa]

Okay?

Wheres the release date

[rich void]

Right near the top

Article is from September 2020, lists 3080 releasing 9/17/30 and 3090 on the 24th of the same month

If you look at any other source it'll back this up

[unborn mesa]

Thats when it was written

Basically when they were announced

[frigid night]

so the wiki says that the 3090 was released September 24th of 2020

[rich void]

"The new GeForce RTX 3080, launching first on September 17, 2020"

3090 released a week later

Seriously dude. If you read the announcement it is crystal clear

They don't announce a GPU a year early

[frigid night]

so looking at the wiki.. it shows that the Ti versions were released in 2021-2022... however the 3060 Ti says it released in 2020 while the regular 3060 released in 2021...

[rich void]

That's accurate

[frigid night]

yeah

[rich void]

The 3060 Ti released well before the 70 and 80 Ti

60 Ti came before the 3060

[frigid night]

yeah, but how comne the base 3060 released after the Ti verrsion?

[stoic island]

Why not

[rich void]

🤷‍♂️

The 3060 uses a whole different die

[frigid night]

I'm new to the pc scene so something like that seems weird when all the others follow a pattern?

[stoic island]

They went top to bottom for the product stack

[rich void]

So 3060 Ti is basically a slower 3070

(not much slower)

[rich void]

They typically release more powerful cards earlier

[stoic island]

Like 3090 3080 3070 about same time, 3060ti, then 3060

[unborn mesa]

Anyway i dont have nvidia gpu so havent looked into it like that

3090ti was released this year tho wasnt it

[rich void]

3070/80/90 Ti cards and the 3080 12gb are basically refreshes

[stoic island]

3090 ti was just an addition

[rich void]

Like the super series of cards from Turing

[frigid night]

ah ok

yeah 3090 ti came out in march

[rich void]

Basically Nvidia wanting more money

[unborn mesa]

Thats any company tbh

Amd with the 6950

[frigid night]

I remember when I first started building this pc.. there was only th e3090.. then all of a sudden people were tlaking about the Ti and I was like wtf.

[rich void]

Did I say it wasn't?

[unborn mesa]

No just adding on

[frigid night]

https://tenor.com/view/rawr-cat-hiss-gif-18356079

😄

[rich void]

😆

[little osprey]

😳

[flint sapphire]

cease

[wary tundra]

yayy

[rich void]

As long as that isn't your ambient 😆

[mossy venture]

34.5 idle is fine, idle Temps don't speak for load temps

[rich void]

I think you missed my joke

34.5 ambient sounds pretty uncomfortable to me
It's great for an idle temp on a CPU or gpu

[wary tundra]

it is 95 in my room

im dying

[mossy venture]

Sorry thought you were using ambient and idle interchangeably

[rich void]

No worries, it wasn't a great joke anyway 👍

[rich void]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-house-burning-okay-gif-5263684

[earnest olive]

have attempted to game with >35c ambient before

can confirm it is not fun

[lilac lava]

43c last summer when my AC died. Not fun.

[mossy venture]

holy crap where do you live

[rich void]

That is pain

[lilac lava]

Northern California. Gets to -40c in the winter too.

[mossy venture]

hottest ive seen in my state was 104

i went to az in third grade and it hit 117

[rich void]

I think we've had 110 here

[mossy venture]

farenheit, ofc

[rich void]

Ah maybe not quite 110 f (but mid 100s)

[lilac lava]

Yeah hottest ive ever been in is when I was working for the California Highway Patrol, and I was in the death valley resident post, and it was almost 130. Official temp was 129.8

[mossy venture]

i would literally die

[lilac lava]

Actually build related we had to put in a commercial AC system for his radio base station and PC, when they upgraded to 10th gen i7 it was overheating.

[still roost]

Buunbun#1769 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Buunbun#1769 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Buunbun#1769 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[mossy venture]

bruh

[flint sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/escalated-quickly-anchorman-drinking-gif-5112090

[unborn mesa]

@mossy venture what temp should i use to heat up my thermal paste so cooler comes off?

[rich void]

I'd just slam it with full load for a while

[unborn mesa]

Turned on unplugged fan

And yea my cooler had a bad mount

[earnest olive]

prime95

the more important thing is to twist instead of pulling

AM4 socket sucks

gives up as soon as it detects 0.00001 N of upward force

[potent portal]

That's exactly what happened to my 2700. I even tried twisting but that just ended up bending more pins when it twisted in the socket

[rich void]

Ooof

[potent portal]

It still works lol
Just have to disable OCP because I guess one of the sensor pins is still bad and it reads like 400A

I did everything I could to kill it because I didn't expect it to last, so I slammed 1.5v into it and did a ton of benches, got several 🏆 on hwbot.

[earnest olive]

jesus

yeah im glad AM5 is moving to better design

[unborn mesa]

Guys

It literally just fell off when i unscrew it

Really bad mount @earnest olive

[earnest olive]

lmao

indeed

[unborn mesa]

Its cool

5900x is in

Tryna see which thermal paste to use tho

I got deepcool’s unknown thermal paste

And arctic mx-4

@earnest olive help pls

[earnest olive]

🗿

[fossil cedar]

mx4 or whicher is open

[earnest olive]

i am trying to work

[fossil cedar]

literally not something to ping over

very little difff

[unborn mesa]

Oh i wouldnt know

[unborn mesa]

Both is closed

Or open since cap came off easy asf

[rich void]

https://tenor.com/view/thanks-awesome-gif-24717465

[potent portal]

MX4 is good, better than a tube of unknown substance or quality

[unborn mesa]

Used mx4

Now to update bios

[potent portal]

That looks like they knocked off thermal grizzly

[unborn mesa]

Could be

Have no clue

[potent portal]

It looks almost the same but the logo

[unborn mesa]

I read someone to just buy separate thermal paste than what they come with so i bought mx4 a while back

[rich void]

I've been using NT-H2 lately myself

[unborn mesa]

That ones better comes with its little spreader attached

[rich void]

It's like NT-H1 but...different?

[unborn mesa]

Leveled up

[potent portal]

H2 is newer model

[rich void]

Yeah, it's exactly 1 better

[rich void]

Yeah I realize

[unborn mesa]

Latest bios non beta right?

Or can i use beta

[rich void]

It's also just very similar to H1

[potent portal]

B550 or X570?

[unborn mesa]

550

[potent portal]

Up to you, it's old enough that beta should be stable too but there's always that small risk

Now on my X470... Beta is the only way to go because MSI decided only beta bios would support 5000, non beta only goes to 3000

[rich void]

The one integer increase is for the one degree better performance 😆

[unborn mesa]

Beta is from 4/29

[leaden plume]

Which one is usb2 or usb

[unborn mesa]

Do i just run biosrenamer?

[potent portal]

The renamer is for using the flashback

[unborn mesa]

Or somehow do that on the pc i wanna update?

Ah

[potent portal]

If you're updating inside bios you can just leave it

[unborn mesa]

Im on my laptop

[leaden plume]

They dont say which usb is which

[unborn mesa]

So just out files on usb and connect to pc?

[potent portal]

That one is 2.0

[potent portal]

Yep

[leaden plume]

Is it just me or the motherboard looks dusty

[potent portal]

The focus and glare make it hard to tell

[unborn mesa]

Saying file selected is not proper bios

[potent portal]

Did you extract the zip file?

[unborn mesa]

Yes

[potent portal]

It might be you picked the wrong model on the website, the wifi and non wifi for example use different bios

[unborn mesa]

Maybe lemme check

Lmao yea

So dont rename right?

[potent portal]

Nah not needed

[unborn mesa]

Ok

Lmao was wrong file

Thanks

[potent portal]

👍

That's the kind of thing you only do once... or twice if you're me lol

[unborn mesa]

What get the wrong file?

[potent portal]

Yep

[unborn mesa]

Hope its a good mount on cpu cooler this time

[potent portal]

There's actually 4 different versions of my motherboard, and 2 of them you can only tell the difference by looking at the model code in bios

[unborn mesa]

Now to do the hardest thing

Close my pc case 😅

And now we wait for ssd

[potent portal]

For now you can run Linux off a live usb, so you can at least test the pc and use it almost normally

[unborn mesa]

Pc has windows bro

Was just swapping cpu and adding better cooler

I just ordered another 2tb nvme of storage for more storage

[potent portal]

Oh I thought when you said "wait for ssd" you meant you didn't have storage lol

[unborn mesa]

Nahh i got a boot drive and a external hdd for my games

Bad mount 💔

69c on idle

Wait nvm its dropping maybe lower

[potent portal]

Give it a few minutes yeah

[leaden plume]

I cant find my audio cable

[unborn mesa]

56c

Bad mount or nah?

Currently 85c where i live

85f**

[potent portal]

lol I was about to say... how are you alive lol

[unborn mesa]

My bad been using c for temps for a minute so

What you think okay mount?

[potent portal]

Crank up your cpu fan and see what difference it makes

[unborn mesa]

How i do that

[potent portal]

It could be the default fan curve is really warm and quiet

[unborn mesa]

73c

[leaden plume]

I think I just broke my motherboard

[potent portal]

Armoury crate

[potent portal]

How so?

[leaden plume]

I missed one of the pins of the usbc port and smoke came out

Dont ask me how there was smoke there but smoke came out

[unborn mesa]

Its deleted

bro fried his mobo

[potent portal]

Try this then https://github.com/rem0o/fancontrol.releases

[unborn mesa]

thx didnt wanna download it again

[leaden plume]

I cant find the audio cable

[potent portal]

The one for the case?

[leaden plume]

Yeah

[potent portal]

What case is it?

[leaden plume]

4000x

[unborn mesa]

Which would be cpu fan 😐

[rich void]

Was it plugged in and/or powered on?

[leaden plume]

No

Thats why I wonder how there was smoke

[rich void]

Really odd

[leaden plume]

But I eventually put the usbc in right

[unborn mesa]

dont recommend plugging stuff in while powered on

@potent portal still at 68c

[potent portal]

The fans are already ramped up pretty high too, yeah probably bad mount

[unborn mesa]

dang it

ngl dude i have no clue how to use this

imma use msi afterburner to check since itll let me set it to 100%

yea bad mount

70c with fans at full speed

[potent portal]

Afterburner is for the gpu though

[unborn mesa]

yup just remembered that

im tired asf man tryna do this so i dont have to do it later

[potent portal]

You could do argus monitor instead. It's a paid software but has 30 day trial, and a little bit better interface.

[unborn mesa]

downloading

have no clue how to use the one u sent me

shouldve just got an aio tbh

[leaden plume]

Where would the jfp cables go

[potent portal]

19

[leaden plume]

Idk

[unborn mesa]

its a bad mount

[leaden plume]

Wait

Isnt it 15

[potent portal]

No, 15 is the serial header

[leaden plume]

Whats that for

[potent portal]

Monitoring hardware typically these days, nothing you'll ever use

[strong raft]

Nah* my bad, it's 19 as fal said. Jfp literally means front panel (pwr switch & such)

[leaden plume]

O

Also

14 and 10 are usb 2.0s right

[unborn mesa]

im gonna remount it

[potent portal]

If you follow the line on 14 it points at clrtc, but 10 is USB

10 circles the two headers

3 technically

[leaden plume]

O

[potent portal]

Just one is a single port header

[strong raft]

The mobo itself is usually more detailed, so will say F_usb or something near a header. Some manuals aren't great.

[potent portal]

Here's for the front panel buttons and such

[little osprey]

i just built my pc and i there is a weird robotic sound which i think is coming from the gpu? what should i do

[unborn mesa]

Not enough paste 🤦‍♂️

[little osprey]

should i rma it

[potent portal]

Is it coil whine? https://youtu.be/HP73edpQwgc?t=93

[leaden plume]

I dont have an hdd led cable

[little osprey]

sounds like it yeah, im completely new to this, is coil whine bad?

[potent portal]

Skip it then

[potent portal]

It's totally harmless but if it's annoying enough to you then you can RMA it

[leaden plume]

Whats this for

[little osprey]

is there anyway to safely get rid of it apart from rma?

[potent portal]

No. Occasionally getting a different PSU will help but it's not something a user can fix.

[potent portal]

Fan control hub

[leaden plume]

I assume the 3 already connected are the ones that were preinstalled with the case?

[potent portal]

Yep

[leaden plume]

So I dont need to mess with those wires?

[potent portal]

Nope. The ones coming from the bottom are going to be power and motherboard connection probably though.

[unborn mesa]

Fal how do i make sure its a proper mount?

Cpu and cooler are drying from alcohol rn

[potent portal]

Screw a little in on each side making sure they're even

If you have 4 screws on the mount, go in diagonals

[unborn mesa]

I have 2

[worn wave]

Corsair RGB hub

[unborn mesa]

But they annoying to screw in cuz when i get one to grab the other side lifts up

[potent portal]

You'll want it as tight as you can get it using just your fingers

Yeah coolers are just a pain in general like that, it doesn't get easier with experience lol

[unborn mesa]

Thing is i cant get to the screws with my hands

[dense palm]

Any version of win10 should be fine right?

[unborn mesa]

Yea

[dense palm]

Guess I will order an usb one then

[potent portal]

It's a lot cheaper to use your own usb and get a $20 key

And tbh you don't even need to activate Windows

[unborn mesa]

Fal what pattern should i use cuz i used 5 dots

I guess i didnt do them big enough or sum

[potent portal]

You can pre-spread it, that way you know it covers the whole thing

[dense palm]

idk it feels like the "grey" area when buying keys from 3rd party

[unborn mesa]

This okay?

[potent portal]

It is a little grey market but they're valid keys

[unborn mesa]

Fal?

[potent portal]

Probably more

[unborn mesa]

Supposed to cover all of it right?

Here goes nun

[strong raft]

If you care to take the time, could just spread it thin over the ihs w/ an old credit card or w/e. I know the main die isn't large, but it's nice at least seeing a nearly covered cpu w/ fresh paste.

[unborn mesa]

Used the spreader that came with paste

Got it decently tight on there

Power on

[leaden plume]

There are 4 cables in the front panel and theyre not in the manual

[unborn mesa]

@potent portal i dont think it worked

its on there decently tight still at 69c with just normal start up running

[potent portal]

"Decently tight" or as tight as you can get it?

[potent portal]

What case? I don't think you said when I asked earlier

[leaden plume]

4000x

These 3

[potent portal]

This one connects to the power supply sata connector

The other 2 look like fans but it's hard to tell at that angle

[leaden plume]

They come from the fans but im not sure where they go

[potent portal]

If I could see what that says I could tell you for sure

[leaden plume]

It says

1
Tkg
2510

[potent portal]

This one is definitely fan power based on the clip

[leaden plume]

Theyre both the same thing

[leaden plume]

So where do they go

[potent portal]

Fan headers on the motherboard

They control the fan speeds

And report tachometer speed

[leaden plume]

Does it matter which fan header

[potent portal]

Not really

[cyan ravine]

Ideally at least one of the cpu cooler fans go into the CPU_Fan header, but not really as long as at least one fan of any description is in the cpu fan plug then it should be fine

[potent portal]

Just not the cpu fan or pump ones

[cyan ravine]

Oh yeah not the water pump one lol

[leaden plume]

Yeah

I have two other cables that come with my aio

And one of them I connected to cpu_fan already

[cyan ravine]

Just into other fan headers

Unless they're like a USB or argb/12V RGB cable

[unborn mesa]

As tight as i can get it with the little tool they gave me

It hasnt gon past 70c so far im gonna test it underload on warzone see how it does

[leaden plume]

Is this for fan rgb or for fan power

[worn wave]

That would be a Corsair RGB hub

Lighting Node Core without the plastic case

[leaden plume]

Damn

My motherboard doesnt have enough fan headers

My motherboard only has 2 cpu_fan and 2 cha_fan

[worn wave]

PC fan header splitters or even hubs are quite cheap

[leaden plume]

How much fan headers come with a fan hub

[potent portal]

I've seen 12 fan hubs

[worn wave]

How many fan ports do you mean? Depends on which hub you buy, usually 6-8 on average.

[potent portal]

Simple splitters are cheaper and you should be able to run 4 fans on a single header with no extra power

[leaden plume]

Ok

I only need 6 tho

[potent portal]

You can get two 3 way splitters and use 2 headers

[winter marsh]

my favorite adapter is 4 pin to SATA

[strong raft]

Molex* to sata