building-and-recc-chat

[snow obsidian]

I would just get a 3090 with this price point and forget about RGB

[earnest olive]

blasphemy

banned

[dense palm]

So my arctics liquid cooler is delayed

Meanwhile my cpu expected 20-27th came yesterday

[mossy venture]

When's it coming?

[dense zephyr]

My friend was wondering what would be a good computer for around 1,000 dollars? He was wanting it to be a bright red color

[mossy venture]

Build themselves or pre built

[dense zephyr]

Build themselves bc it would be a better price per part kinda thing right?

[mossy venture]

Are they in the us?

[dense zephyr]

Yes

[mossy venture]

Kk, few min

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4hLwY9

Not much I could find in ways of a decent red case, but can set the rgb to red

[dense palm]

unknown

Says if it does not come by tomorrow they will give me full refund

So I found a ryzen 5 1600

Unopened and all

Which I remembered I tried to build a pc way back

and did not have money to continue after the cpu

How is the ryzen 5 1600 these days?

[earnest olive]

it's fine for something low end like a gtx 1060

don't pair it with a 3070 and expect great results

ryzen 1000 has not aged too well with that single core performance

[dense palm]

low end gpu

is almost as current ones lmao

price wise

[earnest olive]

what?

[dense palm]

the 1060 is p much same price as most gpu atm

[earnest olive]

define "most gpu"

i see 2 1060 6gbs for $145 shipped rn, unsold after 2 hours

not very hard to find them for around those prices

[dense palm]

which site

[earnest olive]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/search/?q=1060&include_over_18=on&restrict_sr=on&sort=new

[mossy venture]

Yeah, I'd use a 1600 for like a cousins or little siblings build who's not doing anything demanding

[earnest olive]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/urvyz2/usaca_h_gigabyte_gtx_1060_windforce_oc_6g_zotac/

[dense palm]

thinking of building a comp for my bro

[earnest olive]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/urr4p2/usafl_h_2080_super_2060_12gb_1060_6gb_w_paypal/

[dense palm]

He plays light games like league and maplestory

[earnest olive]

1600 + 1060 6gb would still make a pretty good entry level system

maplestory lmao

[dense palm]

Dont judge

he likes it

[earnest olive]

i can't

[dense palm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[earnest olive]

i played it as recently as 2019

[mossy venture]

1600 and a 16 series/1050ti or 1060 6gb would be good for that

[earnest olive]

worst game ever

[dense palm]

I dont disagree

[earnest olive]

spoken like someone who doesn't play league

or maplestory

gt 1030 good enough 👍

[dense palm]

lol

[mossy venture]

Fair

[earnest olive]

my intel igpu gets 200 fps in league

lmao

not even xe

just intel uhd

and maplestory is a 2D game

[mossy venture]

I was going by for my little brother part, idk what game maplestory is

[dense palm]

but its coded so bad

[earnest olive]

a 2D side scroller from 2001

[mossy venture]

Ah

[dense palm]

Well little brother but only like 1 year younger

lmao

[earnest olive]

that still drops to 30 fps on a 3090 because nexon is worse at coding than my 8 year old students

but hey

i sold my maplestory account for enough to build a 3090 pc

worth

[dense palm]

lmao

must have been one crazy account

[earnest olive]

idk who would spend $2400 on maplestory accounts on the f2p server

but i'm glad they did

please don't filter evade

[dense palm]

That dude needs help

like a serious help

[earnest olive]

he said he sold his pc to play maplestory on his laptop

[dense palm]

My eyes are going bad are they

someone sold pc to play maplestory on laptop?

[earnest olive]

yup

[dense palm]

Ok

dude needs to be arrested

[earnest olive]

idk i was like top 50 or something

[dense palm]

not get help

Its up to the fact it feels like you commited a crime

smh

what has this world become

[earnest olive]

anyways

you can prob just get him a gt 1030 gddr5

if those are the only two games he plays

[dense palm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pVK2xs

built something that should work for him?

how much watt should I gett

[earnest olive]

$120 for a gt 1030 💀

at that point sell the 1600 and pick up a 5600g and don't bother with graphics card

[potent portal]

5600g with some good 4000 memory and it'll be a lot better than a 1030

[mossy venture]

you teach?

[earnest olive]

yes

[mossy venture]

thats sick, didnt know that

[earnest olive]

programming specifically

@dense palm https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7RmFZw could do something like this

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc wouldnt this be a bit better?

or no, since its amd

[earnest olive]

what?

[mossy venture]

the ram

[earnest olive]

it's an APU

you can go up to 2500 FCLK on those

monolithic die

[mossy venture]

ye

thought the lower timings would make up for it

im prolly wrong

[earnest olive]

and igpus are strictly constrained by memory bandwidth

[potent portal]

Not when using the APU

Different rules apply

[earnest olive]

4000C32 would beat 3600C16 when you're doing igpu gaming lol

[mossy venture]

jesus

ok

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vVVD4D/patriot-viper-steel-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-4400-cl19-memory-pvs416g440c9k then what about this compared to the 4000c18?

[potent portal]

Patriot

[earnest olive]

4400 is getting to the point where i'm not sure if i want to recommend it to a casual user because manual tuning may be required

4000 no problem plug and play

it's like everyone recommending 3600 for casual ryzen when 3600 is pretty below the optimal point to run at

[potent portal]

Well, it's not like you can buy 3800 kits any more

[mossy venture]

3800c14 only option

[earnest olive]

do you really want to guide little timmy though getting 1900 fclk 0 whea stable on his 4000 mt/s kit

ew, imagine settling for c14

cope

[mossy venture]

i still havent oced my 3200c16 crucial kit

[earnest olive]

demanding game like maplestory needs 4200 1:1 11-11-11 with some LN2 for sure

i've actually seen some incredibly rare zen 3 samples run 4200 1:1 stable

super jealous

i'm stuck at 1900 😐

[potent portal]

I used to do 4000 1:1, I had WHEAs but no blue screens

[earnest olive]

💀

4200 13-8-12-12-21-29 1.86V

huffing some copium rn

[desert gulch]

Are you sure it's stable?

Looks like you're missing some vital tests

[earnest olive]

damn true they forgot cinebench and userbenchmark!

[desert gulch]

No

You're forgetting icue

Idiot

[earnest olive]

oh

😔

demoting myself from techie

[potent portal]

Ryzen Master too

[desert gulch]

Use icue and chrome for ram stability testing

[potent portal]

Doesn't mean they ran the stability test

[earnest olive]

ryan did you see the reddit moment i posted today

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TggQd9

[earnest olive]

why that case though 👀

[potent portal]

It's what they had on the previous list 🤷‍♂️

And case doesn't really matter for iGPU build

[earnest olive]

fair

i should really make a submission to the zen oc leaderboards

there's not enough rev. e gang representation on here

highest is 52nd place with someone running an insane 4266 1:1

but i think i can beat their latency

[potent portal]

I find it kinda crazy you can get 4000c18 memory for only $20 more than 3200c16

Let's get that DDR4 cheaper, les go

[earnest olive]

it's a pretty similar bin to 3600c16, but with less demand

makes sense to be not very expensive

[potent portal]

True, but there are also some ICs that just won't do 4000 no matter what but you can do 3600c16 just fine

Just ask Patriot which ones they use

[ivory tundra]

hey guys so my desktops power just went out suddenly and im not taking this as a bad sign as yesterday thunderstorms and power went with street lamps and everything in my town it had already powered down three times and powered back up with a surge once it was working fine today but i was making music and then suddenly just turned off do you guys think my psu is failing

it was on for awhike before it did

[potent portal]

Do you have it on a surge protector? (not just a power bar)

[ivory tundra]

no i dont have one abd just got this pc

😕

i bought one still waiting for it

[potent portal]

Oof, the PSU took the whole surge then

[ivory tundra]

is there anyway i can tell that my psu is damaged

[potent portal]

Download OCCT and run the power test

[ivory tundra]

can you send link

[potent portal]

Let it run for the 1 hour

https://www.ocbase.com/download

[ivory tundra]

thanks bro ton of help

[digital imp]

So I switched out my psu and my fans turn on

But no rgb

[ivory tundra]

if soemthing is wrong in still in the window to return it

[digital imp]

I had a non modular power supply and now have a modular one

[potent portal]

Do you have a RGB hub?

[ivory tundra]

also i had it plugged in the outlet thats even worse huh

[earnest olive]

interesting, 100% sure it's IC limit and not IMC/board here?

[earnest olive]

dude, get a surge protector

i haven't had a power outage in like 8 years and i still use a surge protector

[digital imp]

I’m not sure since this was a prebuilt

[earnest olive]

surge protector should be considered a mandatory pc component lol

[digital imp]

But I never touched the connections between the rgb stuff

Just disconnected from psu

[potent portal]

I've seen a patriot 3600c16 bin that turned out to be c-die, and wasn't working at xmp after a month

[earnest olive]

oof

what was the voltage?

3600c16 sounds unnatural for c-die lol

[potent portal]

1.35v

[earnest olive]

interesting

1.35v definitely isn't high enough to degrade it

[ivory tundra]

whyll this test is going waht should i do

what*

[earnest olive]

if i had to guess it was just never stable to begin with

and they lived with crashing or whatever until it just stopped booting eventually

damn, why is patriot cosplaying corsair?

dude i saw 7 people on reddit in a single day complain about corsair xmp crashing/not booting

it was hilarious

[potent portal]

You can just use the pc normally during the test. It might be a little slow but shouldn't crash.

[earnest olive]

well, not hilarious that they were having problems

but hilarious how bad corsair is

[ivory tundra]

what should i be looking for when this test is running

[earnest olive]

not crashing

that's about it

you're testing the power supply

[potent portal]

If the power supply is bad then it would just shut off

[earnest olive]

power supplies don't throw errors

they just shut off

i really wish OCCT would do a one-time buy instead of patreon subscription

[ivory tundra]

my cpupackage power is getting 199.76w

is that bad

or good

[earnest olive]

i would spend like $15 on a permanent OCCT license but i'm absolutely not paying monthly lol

[potent portal]

Good, that means it's stressing the 12v rail on the psu

[digital imp]

So the rgb fans were connected to a non modular psu originally and the wire from the rgb was in line with my Sata drives

[earnest olive]

i bet there's enough people like me that the revenue would increase if it was one-time

[earnest olive]

did you reconnect the sata for the rgb controller to the new psu?

[potent portal]

That's what I figured, you'll just need to plug in sata power and rgb should work

[still roost]

RETHINKWHOT.U.T#7846 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[digital imp]

Even if there’s a separate peripheral cable for power

?

Would I then need to connect that peripheral daisy chain to the mobo?

[potent portal]

Which connector exactly are you referring to?

Sometimes yes, sometimes no

[digital imp]

Ok so I just connected the sata to another sata port and the lights went on

And the peripheral is what keeps the fans on

[ivory tundra]

my cpu package is at around 75 degrees celcius

[potent portal]

That's fine

[earnest olive]

sata is a peripheral cable

sata, molex, floppy

gotta distinguish between them

most psus will no longer carry floppy connectors anymore but molex is still in use

[potent portal]

Modular ones might have that on the molex cable

[strong raft]

Well there are sata & perif ports on many psus. Perhaps that's part of confusion

[ivory tundra]

i shouldnt browse the web or anything whyll this test is running right

[digital imp]

Molex is on there

[earnest olive]

yeah quite a few psus will have a cable of like 2 sata + 2 molex and then some 4 sata cables

[digital imp]

Originally this was a prebuilt

[potent portal]

Go for it, shouldn't cause any issues

[ivory tundra]

so i have to let it run the full hour

[digital imp]

So the case had a sata connector into it. The rgb stuff was connected to the psu via molex/sata cables

[ivory tundra]

to make sure

[earnest olive]

10 minutes should be enough tbh if it hasn't shut off by now

go buy a surge protector though

like, now

[potent portal]

Yes, that way the power supply gets to full heat load

[ivory tundra]

okay

[earnest olive]

huh

those heatsinks can last an hour at full load before hitting saturation?

psu heatsinks don't look that impressive to me lol

[potent portal]

The problem is after hitting saturation they'll continue getting hotter

They just lose efficacy at moving heat, and the parts get hotter

[earnest olive]

how much of that is counteracted by fan ramp?

[earnest olive]

that's molex and floppy

molex is the larger one

[digital imp]

Would this connector bypass me having to utilize the sata for rgb

[earnest olive]

no

unless you bought an adapter for it

can you even

i'm not sure

oh, you can

but there's no valid reason to

i know if i had to choose between connecting a sata or a molex+floppy cable to my modular psu i'd pick sata LOL

[digital imp]

Ok I just have to use two sata connections on the psu instead of one but that’s fine

[earnest olive]

one sata cable can usually handle 3-4

[digital imp]

Yeah but it doesn’t reach is the issue

[earnest olive]

ah

then yeah just use 2 cables

[digital imp]

Cool thanks

[ivory tundra]

well 32 minutes no power outage so far so good

[potent portal]

Sata has 3.3v, 5v, and 12v power so that wouldn't be a good idea for a hard drive, but something like fan power is only going to use 12v anyway so molex to sata could work

[earnest olive]

yeah

argb hub might use 5v

so not a good idea

well

bad wording

argb hub would definitely use 5v

[potent portal]

Yeah, unless it's an active converter which I doubt from an included hub

[earnest olive]

the might is it might be an argb hub might be 12v rgb lol

[ivory tundra]

okay test is done

[potent portal]

Well it won't be crashing under load then at least.
You can try our Windows repair script and see if it finds problems. Sudden power loss can corrupt data. https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Windows-Troubleshooting-Utilities/releases/tag/v12

[ivory tundra]

so it wasnt the psu then

[potent portal]

Could still be but it's less likely now

[ivory tundra]

what do i download

the .bat

[potent portal]

The v13.bat

[lost cave]

Newbe here. I have an ASROCK B110+ Pro system that I just built. I am receiving the following message on my monitor. "Reboot and select proper boot device or, Insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key. Not sure of the next step. any help is greatly appreciated.

[mossy venture]

have you ever had a windows pc before

[lost cave]

yes. am using one to send this message

[potent portal]

Oh the mining board B110?

[mossy venture]

do you have a flash drive

or any usb drive

[potent portal]

You'll need a USB to install an OS

[lost cave]

that is correct,

yes

how big of a usb

[mossy venture]

put the usb into the machine youre currently on

8gb might be enough

[potent portal]

Depends what OS you want to install, 8gb is enough for Windows and most Linux

[mossy venture]

ive done it from an 8gb usb once, and then the other time i tried it it didnt work

[potent portal]

Some Linux can be as small as 128mb

[mossy venture]

some linus can be as big as 6'2"

or however tall he is

idfk

[potent portal]

Obviously not talking about LTT Linus

[mossy venture]

he gives 5'10 energy

5'6

google says

[lost cave]

looking for my memory stick

got it

[potent portal]

Linus Torvalds is 5'10"

[potent portal]

Linus Sebastian? Yeah they're always making fun of him for that lol

[lost cave]

next?

[mossy venture]

what os do you want

[lost cave]

windows

[potent portal]

10 or 11?

[lost cave]

11

[potent portal]

Do you have it downloaded already?

[mossy venture]

go to windows media installer (i think thats the name)?

on google

[rich juniper]

build the most powerful gaming setup, install chromeos on it

[mossy venture]

https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11

[mossy venture]

gt 710

[potent portal]

quad sli 710

[rich juniper]

you gotta get that maximum browser game experience

[mossy venture]

fal

how much of a meme are 185mm fans

[lost cave]

I have it downloaded to my pc

[mossy venture]

launch it

and then download it to the usb

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09N2MGTWC/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=A25D34XLVTWT9M&psc=1 because this exists and im kinda laughing at it

[potent portal]

They probably use the same mounting as standard 180mm so not much I guess

[mossy venture]

found these 3 cases

[lost cave]

it looks like it wants to make changes to my existing PC.

[mossy venture]

you downloaded the wrong one then

this one

[lost cave]

shoot.....

[mossy venture]

dw about it

doesnt matter, just close the one you downloaded

[lost cave]

I closed it

[mossy venture]

now install the other one

[analog pulsar]

WOW

demote mod

[potent portal]

Not me making fun of him, it's the LTT editors that like to point out when he can't reach things normal people can... or when he fits inside the server cabinet

[lost cave]

i'm downloading Win11_English_X64v1.iso

looks like it is going to take some time for the download.. Is this the correct one you mentioned?

[potent portal]

yes

[lost cave]

once this is downloaded, do I move it to the USB drive, take it to my rig and run it?

[potent portal]

The program should ask if you want to install it to the USB, otherwise you'll need something like rufus to install the files

[lost cave]

ok,,, I'll have to wait for it to download.

thank you for your assistance. I'll install it ot the usb

[mossy venture]

hah short

[analog pulsar]

😳

he just skinny

I mean some people can fit in school lockers

[restive halo]

This pc only the motherboard lights come on nothing else

[restive halo]

The motherboard also has 2 connection instead of the normal 1

[potent portal]

You'll need to be a bit more specific. Is this a prebuilt (from HP or Dell in particular), is this a PC that's been running and is now not working, is this one you're building?

[restive halo]

I figured it out. But now everything is coming on but monitor says no signal @potent portal

[stuck juniper]

Any full black no rgb o11 mini air builds?

[ivory tundra]

so im browsing the web and downloading somethings and my pc just kind of froze in browser tried hitting keys didnt do nothing then it just restarted on its own

what is the problen

problem

[potent portal]

Could be the motherboard since you had the power surge

[mossy venture]

could also be drive

if it shut off suddenty from the power cutting something couldve corrupted

[potent portal]

I had them run rawr's script

[ivory tundra]

damn so waht do you guys think should i just replace this pc still got 30 day window

cause i think somethings up a rig like this shouldnt be doing this i ran diagnostic and stess tested it is something on this pc failing could it be psu or motherboard

[potent portal]

One way or another you're probably going to need to replace something

[ivory tundra]

i mean it was on for hours just fine before it just froze for a moment in the browser and just restarted itself

dammit

[frank stirrup]

what does event viewer say?

[ivory tundra]

:/

[potent portal]

Hard crashes like that aren't usually software, and the timing of the power outage isn't coincidental

[mossy venture]

the last time i blue screened it was actually my ram

unrelated to this issue most likely though

[ivory tundra]

i didnt blue screen it just froze then restarted tho

but yesh shouldnt be doing that

[brittle tinsel]

so I have a HUGE problem, I have tried everything and my computer wont read the ethernet connection

[potent portal]

Define "everything"

[brittle tinsel]

everything here: https://appuals.com/fix-ethernet-unidentified-network-on-windows-10/
and here; https://networking.grok.lsu.edu/Article.aspx?articleid=19483
2 different ethernets, 2 different routers
factory resetting the pc.

[potent portal]

If you boot a linux OS from USB does it work?

[brittle tinsel]

I dont have linux os, wouldnt even know how to run that off a usb

[potent portal]

Download this https://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-fossa/fossapup64-9.5.iso
And use this or a similar program to install it to USB https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/releases/download/v3.18/rufus-3.18.exe
Then you'll reboot and tell the bios to boot from the USB

[brittle tinsel]

so if this works, what will that mean?

[potent portal]

If it works in Linux, it's a Windows problem
If it doesn't, it's hardware

[brittle tinsel]

hypothetical here, if lightning were to strike the lan cable but not kill the pc, is it possible its not the pcs hardware

[brittle tinsel]

it may be worth mentioning running hotspot to usb works

[potent portal]

If it's hardware there's only 3 things it can be, the router (which you ruled out), the cable, or the computer

[brittle tinsel]

.... I hope its not hardware, we just dished out extra $ for new hard drives for em, finally replace the failing drives and boom, lightning

[brittle tinsel]

so on my pc. I have 2 ethernet ports, neither one read connection from either modem

[potent portal]

Yeah that would suck. We had one guy in here earlier who got a new PC, didn't plug it into a surge protector... and had multiple power outages. Pretty sure his motherboard is bad now.

[brittle tinsel]

im still trying to figure out this usb linux thing

these have good psus, surge protectors and everything we could do to protect surge

except for if lightning hits ethernet

😦 why dont they have surge protection for things like this on ether ports?

[potent portal]

They do

https://www.amazon.com/Tupavco-Ethernet-Protector-Gigabit-1000Mbs/dp/B00805VUD8

[brittle tinsel]

would you be able to join a call and help me with this usb real quick? or maybe an article with those 2 you sent me

this is a new area for me

[potent portal]

I can't do voice right now

https://softwarekeep.com/help-center/how-to-create-a-bootable-usb-using-rufus

[brittle tinsel]

thank you sooo much for taking the time out of your day to help others, especially this time of morning ❤️

running linux wont interfere with windows or the games on the hdd will it?

[potent portal]

Not at all. When it's running on the USB it's not even accessing the HDD, it's running in memory.

[brittle tinsel]

so I put linux on the usb but windows is not showing the usb so I cant eject it...

[potent portal]

If it's done copying you can just reboot and open your boot menu on the bios splash screen, usually F10 or F11

[frank stirrup]

f12 on most pcs afaik

[potent portal]

Well I've also seen F8 and F9 so it really could be anything

[frank stirrup]

true

on non oem boards ive mostly seen f12

[potent portal]

Mine is F10

[frank stirrup]

wierd

my msi board is f12 (pretty sure)

as is my gigabyte and asus

[brittle tinsel]

it was del key, it doesnt show the usb name just smi usb or uefi usb, does it matter?

[potent portal]

Del will bring up bios, but that works too

UEFI USB

[brittle tinsel]

I’m gonna have like 150 boots on this new drive by day 2 of owning it lmfao

[potent portal]

My hard drive I've had for 4 years has over 1800 power ons

That's like rebooting it 1.2 times a day

[brittle tinsel]

My pc of 1.5 years only ended up having like 252 boots

[potent portal]

Hmm. Reboot again and try SMI

And try another USB port too

I also have a SSD with over 25k power on hours

[brittle tinsel]

Oh wait, the usb is into the case not direct to mobo I’m dumb

[potent portal]

Easy mistake, and sometimes doesn't even matter

[brittle tinsel]

Also said smi wasn’t bootable disk

Nope same thing

[potent portal]

This drive also has over 25TB Written (it's a cheap 256GB lol)

[brittle tinsel]

Maybe I didn’t install Linux right?

[potent portal]

Maybe, more likely you PC doesn't like that distro

Or should I say, that flavor

[brittle tinsel]

Yeah, windows detects the lan cable but says unidentified and won’t work. Windows troubleshoot says no valid ip for the wire

[potent portal]

If it's not getting a reply from the DHCP to retrieve an address it could cause that, and that would also indicate hardware issues if that were the case

Try this flavor, it's a little bigger though https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/22.04/release/lubuntu-22.04-desktop-amd64.iso

[brittle tinsel]

wow... I cant download that. not off of hotspot

I will be expecting a call from my provider if I do that

[potent portal]

Download to your phone and copy to computer?

Probably faster too

[brittle tinsel]

wait, that first one you sent, doesnt have an ISO file

[potent portal]

Looks like iso on my end

[brittle tinsel]

this is the only file rufus will let me click on

[potent portal]

iso is a disk image file, it contains the files and info needed to create a copy of a disk

[brittle tinsel]

so that is the right file?

[potent portal]

What you're looking at are the contents of the disk

Check your downloads folder, on the left

[brittle tinsel]

?

[potent portal]

yes

[brittle tinsel]

I must have went down the wrong path

whoops

Not good?

Wait,it has internet

This morning has been a rollercoaster of emotions

Emotions I didn’t even know existed

[potent portal]

That's got to be a relief

Now you just need to fix Windows

Instead of getting new hardware

[brittle tinsel]

Ok, wtf, booted into windows and it connects right up

And now I have the urge to cry my self to sleep

[potent portal]

Guess it just needed a kickstart

I'm happy for you though, this is the best outcome that could have happened

[brittle tinsel]

Well, I still need a new router

So that’s gonna be fun Windstream sucks

[potent portal]

Best outcome given the circumstances lol

[brittle tinsel]

But again, thank you sooo much man. God bless

[potent portal]

Happy to help

[restive halo]

@potent portal Sorry got frustrated and went to sleep. MB is x570 pro. Everything is turning on but no signal to the monitor

[frank stirrup]

is the monitor cable connected to the back of the motherboard?

also what cpu and gpu

[restive halo]

No the gpu

5950 and 3080 @frank stirrup

[frank stirrup]

ok good

[restive halo]

Any thoughts

[frank stirrup]

yes i think i need to pass my comp sci practical tomorrow

fr tho, tried cmos clear and reseating gpu?

another gpu port?

[restive halo]

Tried both

[ivory tundra]

guys so im stress testing my psu and motherboard with occt within the first 2 minutes of running the test my cpu package reached like 95 degrees celcius is this normal ???

[desert gulch]

95 is pretty toasty

thats throttling right there

what cpu and cooler do you have?

[earnest olive]

@desert gulch it's normal

he has a 12900K + corsair h115 lol

100c + throttling is normal

[frank stirrup]

💀

[desert gulch]

Lol

[humble fossil]

hi

what name of case please

[ivory tundra]

lol 😅whats funny sorry im new is this normal and im worrying for nothing

guys im just hella worried after that storm power went out whyll it was on then power surged into it then it turned off again then a third time no surge cause i got to it in time then it just turned off randomly after several hours the next day then yesterday night after several hours of being on it stalled in browser all of a sudden couldnt for a couple min couldnt do anything then it restarted automatically is this signs of psu failure i just got this thing

[maiden mortar]

I'm looking into building out a computer to do 3D work with Blender/Unreal. I'm looking at getting the threadripper 3970x with two rtx 3090ti but could the 5950x also work to handle those two graphics cards or do I need the additional PCIE lanes? Also, it's estimating 2090 W of power but I can't seem to find any solid power supplies.

[humble fossil]

@wide sparrow

[humble fossil]

If there is an outage in your area or there is a possibility, you should buy UPS

[humble fossil]

If you can buy 2 psu ,buy

[ivory tundra]

on the .bat file what should i run

[ivory tundra]

i invested in a powersurge protector as i didnt have one when it happened unexpectedly

[mossy venture]

:P

whats your budget

[sharp belfry]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GYZXRv

Is this a good build for under 1k

[mossy venture]

no, ill make you a list. one second

[sharp belfry]

sounds good, I just need this PC for minecraft, rocket league and some other games like that. I have an Xbox so it doesn’t need to be a huge fancy pc

[mossy venture]

do you happen to play fortnite

[sharp belfry]

my first time getting a pc so yeah

no

[mossy venture]

alright cool

amd gpus tend to not play well with it, which is why i ask

wait actually could go 6650xt, one sec

alright heres my final answer https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tytkfv

[potent portal]

I think it's option 1, then 1

[sharp belfry]

Cool thank you

[mossy venture]

if you want it you can add this too https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zr8bt6/id-cooling-se-214-xt-argb-682-cfm-cpu-cooler-se-214-xt-argb

[dense palm]

what brand is good for thermal paste

I'm trying to buy it from arctic since that is where I am buying my cooler

[autumn wolf]

arctic tends to be good and flavorful. normally mx4. thermal grizzly kryonaut tends to be on the sweeter side of the flavor pallet but it also tastes pretty good

could ask @frank stirrup for some recommendations as well

noctua nt-h1 isnt as good as it used to be but still pretty rich in flavor

[dense palm]

taste...? what?

[autumn wolf]

oh to use for like cooling?

[dense palm]

Yes

Ok

didn't know its called tasteing

[autumn wolf]

arctic mx-4 is good enough

[mossy venture]

rawrs recommendation is to not eat thermal paste

it doesnt taste very good

[autumn wolf]

wut. rawr only eats thermal paste

thats his entire diet

[dense palm]

so which one is better?

I have to wait for my cooler to ship anyways

its lost somewhere in shipping

[autumn wolf]

normally coolers already has paste pre-applied but if you want to be on the safe side in case if the paste on there is already dried or you just want something better, could just go for some arctic mx-4

cheap and good

[mossy venture]

did you get the refund?

[dense palm]

If it doesnt come by today

I can ask for refund tomorrow

[mossy venture]

ah

and then will you get the cooler and refund?

or just money

[dense palm]

depends

might order another one

and return the one that comes late

is thermal grizzly better though?

[potent portal]

Their coolers come with good paste already

[livid spire]

thermal grizzly rip off, same formula found on TF8, TFX and uh

alseye T9+ platinum

buy one of the three, they are all about equal

[dense palm]

how big of a diff is there between a 240 fan and a 280 fan

[livid spire]

i take it you mean AIO

[dense palm]

yes

Kinda annoying this is happening

But from what I see, the 240mm can come in a day or two while the 280 can take up to a week

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-RGB-Multi-Compatible/dp/B08WRJ5MQW/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=arctic%2Bliquid%2Bfreezer%2Bii%2B280%2Ba-rgb&qid=1652903916&s=industrial&sprefix=arctic%2Bliquid%2Bfreezer%2Bii%2B280%2Cindustrial%2C118&sr=1-3&th=1

[livid spire]

get the 280, it's the better choice with that cooler

[dense palm]

its the one that is taking super long atm

[livid spire]

you can slap the 280 up front on some cases to big fans, makes a good combo then

a week eh, you should be able to wait it out

[dense palm]

Well that is what the order said when i purchased it

and its taking longer

[mossy venture]

the clc 280 is $60

[dense palm]

pain

[mossy venture]

just loud, can change the fans out for p14s

[potent portal]

Are you using it with that 12400 in your name? 240 is more than enough for that

[livid spire]

CLC is kinda pain tho

asetek meh

wouldn't bother with it

[dense palm]

so 240 is enough?

[livid spire]

by the time you change fans, it'll have already cost as much as a freezer

[potent portal]

For a 12400 yes

[livid spire]

and still a worse cooler

[dense palm]

problem is that if I get both of them

I will have to sell one I guess

[livid spire]

12400 just the stock sucks

you can live with a good air there

[dense palm]

or idk

[livid spire]

TDP is about 120W max

[dense palm]

make another comp

[livid spire]

you can keep it for the rainy days

[dense palm]

[mossy venture]

no?

not even close

[dense palm]

I live in WA state

[livid spire]

AIOs can be a bit weird

[dense palm]

where it rains all day

[livid spire]

like pump noises

[mossy venture]

clc 280 at $60 plus $15 for the p14s

and itll be very similar to an lf2 280

[livid spire]

i thought 240

well it's still technically the worse cooler.

it's an older asetek unit

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/d2fmP6/evga-clc-280-1135-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-400-hy-cl28-v1

[livid spire]

i honestly wouldn't bother with it

cheap for a reason

[potent portal]

Only by a couple degrees, that the LF offset cold plate gets

[livid spire]

yeah but quality wise LF is much better

it won't freak fail on you

[mossy venture]

i have not heard of a single story of a clc randomly failing

not first hand anyways

[livid spire]

it's an asetek gen 2

[dense palm]

Well Im set on getting the arctic stuff

[livid spire]

i had a corsair based off of it.. it wasn't great

[dense palm]

not a concern to save $$

[mossy venture]

ofcourse aios will have bad units, as do all parts, but theyre few and far between

[livid spire]

old aseteks weren't great neither in performance nor in long term reliability tbh

[potent portal]

You're entitled to your opinions but don't push them on others if they're not receptive to them

[livid spire]

it's not an opinion.

[mossy venture]

then id spend the extra $8 on this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HZvdnQ/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-280-a-rgb-689-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00106a

[livid spire]

it's a fact.

H100 for example failed a lot

[potent portal]

Backed by what evidence

[dense palm]

its the one that is coming late

lmao

[mossy venture]

ahh

[livid spire]

literally consumer failures

do your research on pre-2016 asetek gear.

[dense palm]

I just talked to amazon

they said I can keep it if it comes

but giving me full refund

[potent portal]

That works

[dense palm]

I will see if it comes by today or tomorrow

and if it doesn't order the 240mm

Even the cpu that was supposed to come between 20-27th came like 2 days ago

And the case/gpu/mobo is coming tomorrow

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086BYYFG5?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

how is this one

also do I need the lga 1700 mount kit?

[wide sparrow]

ghost ping???

[fossil cedar]

Pretty meh and has leaked on a few ppl iirc

[dense palm]

do I need the mount kit to add the AIOs?

[fossil cedar]

Arctic definitely comes with lga 1700, so does ek and lian li

Evga does too afaik

[dense palm]

Think some are saying you need to buy it?

[strong raft]

Yes just because partly a chance of older stock, but by now 12gen has been out approx 6months or so

[dense palm]

I see

kk thanks

[dense palm]

Always appreciate help

[strong raft]

Liquid freezer ii is good btw & most likely lga 1700 kit incl. It's a popular choice

[dense palm]

maybe I will try ti from newegg

they have it from same price

[frigid night]

the one from amazon ships directly from arctic and it comes with the 1700 kit

[dense palm]

Well I did get it from there

So really confused what happened

with delayed shipping

[frigid night]

oh, it took arctic like 5 days to ship it off and another few days to get to me.

maybe a little longer

I waited close to a week and a half to 2 weeks for my aio

and tbh the packaging could have been done better. My box was a bit smashed and it was starting to open.

otherwise it arrived in I'd say almost great condition.. some of the fins were bent, but I couldn't be bothered for a replacement because I wanted my PC NOW

[dense palm]

Checking back my order

I ordered it last SAt

was supposed to come monday

so idk wtf happened

[frigid night]

let me check my tracking history

[dense palm]

Nvm ordered it Thursday

and was supposed to come monday

[frigid night]

so I ordered mine March 14 and got it March 27th

I remember that it was supposed to be here on 1 day, but ended up getting delayed by a few days

[brittle tinsel]

what is the cheaper route to router setups? modem router combo or seperate? DSL connection

[rotund zealot]

dont complain

i ordered my 5950x on the 24th

its gonna arrive on the 26th

[dense palm]

So I guess its norm for Arctic?

oh well

smh

[frigid night]

That's just my experience. Idk about anyone elses. Hopefully it gets to you and you get that refund.

[dense palm]

Well I chatted with an amazon rep

said they will refund it and I can keep it if it does ship

[frigid night]

good.

which one did you get? the 360?

[dense palm]

280

[frigid night]

ah

[high yew]

so um, my pc isn’t turning on

[dense palm]

which is funny cuz my cpu was to come between 20-27th of this month

but it came like 2 days ago

[still roost]

j.acob#7187 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[high yew]

hmmmm

[dense palm]

lol what

[high yew]

pc ain’t turning on at all

[dense palm]

is your power plugged in

[high yew]

like at all. tried unplugging psu cable from power bar, turning psu on and off

yes

[mossy venture]

did you just build it?

[high yew]

no couple months ago

[mossy venture]

when you turn it on, are there any signs of life?

[high yew]

nothing

[dense palm]

does other appliances work from the outlet?

[mossy venture]

could be the power button

[high yew]

yes my monitor is fine

has power

same w my speakers

was working fine last name. powered it off and everything

went to turn it on rn and nothing

just moved into a different outlet, still nothing

psu is on and it ain’t a dead outlet

[frigid night]

Have you checked to make sure all cables are fully plugged in on the mobo and the psu?

While it was working when you turned it off. It could be that they came loose from vibration if they weren't seated properly to begin with I would gather.

idk just a suggestion 😛

[high yew]

i took front panel of and tapped the motherboard cable a smidge and it turned on

LMAO

gonna turn it off and make sure the cables for sure in there

scared the bajesus outa me

[frigid night]

yeah just make sure you unplug the PSU

[high yew]

sweet thank you

[brittle tinsel]

anyone here know a thing or 2 about home internet?

[worn wave]

Yeah

[brittle tinsel]

what is B.Bond DSL?

although the internet guy was hard to understand so im thinkiing he mean G.Bond because I cant find anything on BBOND

[worn wave]

Well bonding DSL means sending DSL over multiple runs of cables

[brittle tinsel]

the problem is lightning took out my ISP router and they wont send one for a while, so trying to buy my own,.
what is best, separate or modem router combo?

and do I need a bonded modem even if only one wire is ran to the modem?

[jagged ember]

you will need a modem to adapt the internet from outside to the RJ45 port

[restive halo]

Ok I got the computer running with a older cpu. How do I update the bios to install the new cpu

[worn wave]

If you only have one line you should only need a single modem and I dont believe it has to be a "bonded" rated one

I would ask your ISP for recommendations on a modem though

[restive halo]

@worn wave any chance you could hemp me for a sec

[worn wave]

What manufacturer of motherboard do you have?

[restive halo]

Prime x570 pro

[worn wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em7SRaG3L_0

[restive halo]

@worn wave I got a old cpu in so I can do the update but I honestly have never done it

[worn wave]

Watch that video, it is a step by step guide on how to do it.

[native dew]

My 3070 is coming in tmrw

[vapid jolt]

Should I make any final changes to this list? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mTqdbK

[restive halo]

@worn wave Awesome thank you

[brittle tinsel]

They wouldn’t say, they just said any modem other than theirs they won’t provide tech support

[worn wave]

Lmfao, typical

[brittle tinsel]

Yeah their modem only has one dsl line to it

Look up Windstream T3280

[sharp belfry]

Do y’all have any good tutorials for building a PC? I ordered all the parts just need a how to put it together video for when I get the stuff

[desert gulch]

Did he drop anything?

[strong raft]

Combo unit is cheaper usually but I prefer separate. Ez to replace 1 part and I feel they often work better, or at least there's more choice. Oh yea make sure it's DSL router and/or modem because obviously there's ones for "cable", etc. 👍

[desert gulch]

https://youtu.be/v7MYOpFONCU

This is a really great one

It's first person view too

I prefer pov imo but do whatever one you like better

Still nice for PSU cables and all that imo

And spend 2x time

[strong raft]

And someone else understand things well*. Some other servers show peoples minds can be interesting, to say the least.

[restive halo]

@worn wave on this board select precision boost overdrive and performance enhancer 1?

On the x570 pro with a 5950x and a 3080 what bios settings are safest for a bump in performance

@desert gulch Thoughts?

[desert gulch]

I'm not crazy good with zen 3 stuff, so I'll let someone else answer that

[potent portal]

Memory is usually the most effective thing to overclock on ryzen. What kit do you have?

[restive halo]

He has trident rgb 3200

64g

[desert gulch]

Oh yeah I forgot about ram lol

[potent portal]

Oof. It'll be really hard to get that overclocked. Ryzen really likes 3600-3800 but having a lot of memory like that makes it harder to run at that speed, even if the memory is otherwise capable.

[desert gulch]

You could always tell him about pbo too

And how to use it with 5950x

[potent portal]

True. That one is just a simple enable toggle.

[native dew]

It hereeee

[desert gulch]

Niceeee

[restive halo]

His rgb fan at the top has a rgb issue

That's why is pink

[potent portal]

A lot of the time that means the hub or header isn't giving enough power for all the fans on it

Especially when it's set to white since that uses the most power

[native dew]

Quick question for those types of cases

Where’s the PSU located?

[restive halo]

There is a compartment in the back and it's sideways

[potent portal]

Behind the motherboard tray

[native dew]

Ic ic

[vapid jolt]

My case gas wires in it when I build do I remove them and later put them back?

[potent portal]

Uh, what wires?

There should be an instruction manual with your case at any rate

[vapid jolt]

Like HD audio and stuff

[potent portal]

Those aren't usually removeable but you can push them aside until you're ready to plug them in

[vapid jolt]

That's all of them

Well do I unplug the fans from the rgb cinnector

[potent portal]

If you're using another hub sure but if not I'd leave them

[vapid jolt]

Ok

[ivory tundra]

guys im returning my pc how do i wipe it clean in windows 11 to return back in shipping

all my personal data passwords etc

apps

[potent portal]

Settings>System>Recovery>Reset This PC

[restive halo]

Anyone have a better option then this

[frank stirrup]

I actually ate some and it is DISGUSTING

[restive halo]

It's going to be almost 200

[potent portal]

G242 if it's cheaper is the same thing

[restive halo]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0865GK92R/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_JMTKYH8SPR5P1M7VFC4D

How about this one?

[winter marsh]

24 inch?

What’s the budget?

[restive halo]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09QW2G35J/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_4F5AHVD03J3G4QRFSD50?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[winter marsh]

And desired specs

[restive halo]

Trying to be at $180

[potent portal]

Here's a comparison of the 27" models, it's not good

But not the worst I've seen

[restive halo]

He's going to game on it. 3700x and 1660 super

Fortnite and roblox

[winter marsh]

Pixio aren’t bad, I bought x4 PXC243 for the kids for $600.

https://www.amazon.com/Pixio-PX243-Supported-FreeSync-Esports/dp/B09QW2G35J/ref=asc_df_B09QW2G35J/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=583518774644&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1713493150067814747&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9011982&hvtargid=pla-1637144636809&psc=1

[restive halo]

His theme is red and black. Which is why I was looking at the ones with red accent

So I should just go with the Pixio?

[winter marsh]

ahh, that's almost as bad my my nephew's kid Orange build including seven orange led fans

[restive halo]

?

[restive halo]

Is the pixio better?

[winter marsh]

I'm not kidding

[restive halo]

About what?

[winter marsh]

This kids orange pc

[potent portal]

What in the 2006 is that

[winter marsh]

a MSI B450 with a GTX 1660 Super

inside a bright orange case and LEDs soon to be put out to pasture

[potent portal]

Better? No. The Pixio is a very entry level monitor, few features and needs a lot of calibration.

[restive halo]

That looks terrible

[winter marsh]

it's a then 8 year old's gaming pc lol

[restive halo]

So I should grab the MSI

[potent portal]

That's the best of the options so far yes

[restive halo]

3700x and 1660 super should be more than enough for roblox and fortnite

[restive halo]

Do you know of anything better? It's the last thing I have to buy

[winter marsh]

Pixio is more suited to game consoles than computers, feature wise

[potent portal]

At the price range, no. The G241 is the best I know of.

[ripe spear]

Roblox can play on a potato PC

[winter marsh]

I favor Acer monitors myself but have Asus, monitors here too all are 1ms 144mhz for 1080p

oh and 27 inch except for my own

[restive halo]

Is that G424c anygood

[potent portal]

Gigabyte has a few good midrange monitors too. They're pushing more features into a price point than competitors.

[potent portal]

The G24C4?

[restive halo]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0865GK92R/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_A32NVCV1HA7ADZDJWVNH

[potent portal]

Good enough for gaming on, but colors and such make text and videos kinda not great

[restive halo]

What do you recommend

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WVN6CWT/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_8AYYTQ7764Q4JB81VQT0 @potent portal

On sale

[potent portal]

Really bad contrast on that one. It makes black look grey

[winter marsh]

1x DisplayPort, 2x HDMI 1.4, 1x VGA inputs (1x HDMI & 1x DP cables included) looks good

[frank stirrup]

you can have a 100 display inpots and still have it be a bad monitor because the panel is trash tho

inputs arent the only thing that matters

[winter marsh]

weird but ok

Guess I bought a 3800X3D for nothing.

But I can understand, the ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 A-RGB Cooler looks like crap to me.

[indigo maple]

What would a $2000ish clean blacked out gaming/workspace pc look like? I dont mine some rgb but I want it mostly blacked out with the 4000d airflow case

[stoic island]

5800x3d or 3800xt?

[winter marsh]

But I've grown to be anti RGB is why

[stoic island]

Why not like a tinted meshify c if you want blacked out?

Might make list in a sec, but it'd be like a 12600k 3080 build

[potent portal]

2K could fit a dark tinted torrent too

[winter marsh]

I'm gutting a i5 powered Z97

[stoic island]

@indigo maple here's a start
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2pMyW4

1800$, can do a lot more with it

[frank stirrup]

do u look at the usb ports as the sole reason behind choosing a motherboard?

[stoic island]

could do torrent if you want

[winter marsh]

Naw I love Asus Sabertooth mobo's so started collecting them

Asus 990FX, Z97 Type Sabertooth, B450 Plus Tuf Gaming, and X570 Tug Gaming WiFi

[frank stirrup]

so then does choosing a monitor looking only at the io make sense?

arent there parts that are far more important?

@winter marsh

[winter marsh]

I agree and disagree

[rich void]

All the io in the world won't save a bad panel

[winter marsh]

compatibility is the primary goal over aesthetics

[rich void]

I would look first and foremost for the best panel for the money and then make sure it ticks any other boxes I have

[potent portal]

True, but actual function is more important than compatibility

[earnest olive]

heck yeah, 1024x768 VGA monitor with a 6 usb hub

[rich void]

https://tenor.com/view/buy-gif-21320565

[earnest olive]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

[winter marsh]

For example I've never used G Sync or Freesync

[potent portal]

I figured you hadn't used anything higher end, it's hard to know the difference if you've never experienced it

[winter marsh]

I play MMO's not FPS for I've never had a need for it

[potent portal]

I do too but I still have it on

[earnest olive]

a good high refresh panel still helps with MMOs

[potent portal]

It reduces tearing when the fps drops in raids

[earnest olive]

and that

[earnest olive]

this gave me flashbacks

i used to play blade and soul on my laptop at 30-40 fps lowest settings

then they introduced a 24-man raid and i could not participate because my fps was permanently 6

i got my whole party of 24 wiped cause i was lagging too hard to do the mechs

lmao

that was one of the games i downloaded when i built my first pc with no intention to play it, just to laugh at how well it ran

[potent portal]

rip
Yeah ESO is similar, you can get 100 fps in town but do a 12 man trial and you're at 20

[winter marsh]

most of my load is Cpu bound not Gpu as of yet, yeah raid lag is an old issue I haven't lagged since running a FX 8350 on AM3

[earnest olive]

my laptop had a much better cpu (i7-7700HQ)

but it had single channel ram

that was probably why lmao

[winter marsh]

my old 939 socket Asus SLI Deluxe is doa until I replace the mobo

[potent portal]

How long have you had it?

[rich void]

I would think g-sync would still be useful even if your pc is being cpu bound

[winter marsh]

the FX990 is about 8-11 years old and scrapped

[potent portal]

I meant the 939 board

[winter marsh]

it's in a box stacked with AM3 970A's

that was built around 2006 I think

[potent portal]

Then it's not DOA, it's just dead

[winter marsh]

No I fried it updating the OS past Vista

[frank stirrup]

doa is dead on arrival

[winter marsh]

I can reboot it by replacing the mobo

[restive halo]

I canceled it. What monitor is best for under $200

[winter marsh]

hmmm

[frank stirrup]

is there a point tho? u can get something a lot better for that money

[winter marsh]

that isn't the purpose, gaming wise the 939 socket is deader than disco

however it included a dvd authoring packet and library of dvd's I copied some time ago

[meager dew]

opinions on LCD screens?

found a monitor on B&H that’s stupidly cheap for the quality
i think

its the LG 32UD59-B

[winter marsh]

that is cheap for a 32 inch 4k monitor

but found it cheaper by a few bucks on ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325084905702?epid=15023155215&hash=item4bb09200e6:g:gEUAAOSwYTtiIp2H

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304093134912?hash=item46cd5d0040:g:lQAAAOSwhwVhCrOl&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAABAOslkMmdgVzneIOvj3k1XooDVr8BP%2B5C3yV%2BshP6bl23kz2w86MqWV6JRrFmxonastqGANX9hg3NPunhsPHHetMg%2F7xNmT0l1fOuAjcNM4FEr8oEc%2F3oUzVVLk5jdGP2GahT72aCHSEsLo9flxGffpEyHNaYQkpDsp1aUIza2y8XwvIYFd1CmMrjCvWpJ7tWUhxtLmhQZNcRaFn6U%2B1fA%2B8k0N73Uz2D4t60glm3T%2BkcF1YeJdF5ybTIEIDSMlSrzI4dVMjEWLg%2B%2FViH47LmGSSN7qmRrmR%2Fs9qTEDxof1UpDm6MZI7z58c%2FSo53wztEmOaaL%2Fk2WB%2F%2BKhcyFWZcnrU%3D|tkp%3ABFBMmOuupptg

[potent portal]

What will you be using it for?

[ruby sentinel]

@earnest olive
Be my friend? I have bribe money!

[earnest olive]

...?

[ruby sentinel]

I'll pay if I have to.

I just want a friend like Pino.

[maiden mortar]

That could actually make sense. Do you know of a case that would have room for two psus or just take out some hdd storage space to fit the other?

[native dew]

Got all my stuff, gonna build on Monday.
-MSI Pro Z-690 A DDR4
-i7 12700K
-Kraken z73 AIO Cooler
-Corsair Vengeance Pro 2x16
-Seagate 4TB HDD + Gold 1TB SSD
-RTX 3070
-Thermaltake 850W

[potent portal]

O11 Dynamic iirc does

[ruby sentinel]

Dang. . .

Mushroom doesn't want

[ruby sentinel]

Nice doodlebob hat

[unborn mesa]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-12gb-gddr6x-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card-titanium-and-black/6462956.p?skuId=6462956.

I thought bestbuy was staying at msrp

Ignore that it is msrp

[ruby sentinel]

lol

[unborn mesa]

Such a price difference from 3080 to 3080ti

I thought it was a 3080 non ti

[flint sapphire]

The 3080ti is a slightly worse 3090, basically within 5% in games and everyday stuff but that vram diff

[unborn mesa]

Yea figured

I got a 6900 xt toxic so im chillin

Just looking into a better cpu than a 5700g

[flint sapphire]

The 5800x3d is treating me real nice atm

[unborn mesa]

Hehe nahhh

Plus no stock

[flint sapphire]

True, the leap in performance in my everyday games from a 3800x was impressive though

Have a 2080ti for ref and a 1440p main monitor

[unborn mesa]

Ah i got two 1440p monitors on a 6900xt with a 5700g cpu

Built my pc before i got gpu so ignore cpu

[flint sapphire]

I practically doubled everything fps wise when I got tht cpu

[unborn mesa]

Im looking into a ryzen 9 5900x

At micro center it would be 397 after tax

Bestbuy it would be 428 after tax

Usd btw

[flint sapphire]

Yeah great sales on it atm, cheaper then mine lol

Nearest micro center to me is like ~250miles sadly

[unborn mesa]

Yea its msrp is about the same as the 5800x3d

[potent portal]

5700X isn't so bad, or 5800X if near in price

[snow obsidian]

Im lucky im close to micro

[strong raft]

Probably about what a good 13gen or AM5 setup would be (minus ddr5)

[unborn mesa]

Dont 5800x run hot

[unborn mesa]

Pc is built just looking for cpu

[potent portal]

Yes but if you don't overclock you can undervolt it to control temps

[flint sapphire]

Lol I got the hotter version

Can’t oc though so it’s fine

[unborn mesa]

Im putting a ak620 to put on cpu

[potent portal]

Should be fine with undervolted 5800X, or just go 5700X for the lower power limit

[unborn mesa]

I got an 850w so im fine

[flint sapphire]

Honestly my dark rock pro 4 is handling the 5800x3d admirably, I’m sure it’ll be fine on the ak620

[potent portal]

No I mean the lower power limit means it runs cooler

And 5700X is pretty close to 5800X in games

[unborn mesa]

Rn i have the fans from the ak620 pulling air into the stock cpu fan

Helped my cooling tbh

[flint sapphire]

[unborn mesa]

Shhh

Dont wanna waste my time putting it on this cpu so just waiting for me to get my cpu

[potent portal]

Funny enough I overclocked my 5800X with PBO to +150 boost and I can still undervolt

[unborn mesa]

Overclock undervolt 🤔

[potent portal]

I got a good sample, cores not so power hungry

[unborn mesa]

Ah

5950x is 549 at bestbyy

[potent portal]

An my core 0 is the best core so if I wanted to LN2 for frequency records I'm set

[potent portal]

Not worth it for gaming

[unborn mesa]

Thought so

[flint sapphire]

Yeah the 5900x often beats it

[potent portal]

X3D beats it handily

[flint sapphire]

And that

[unborn mesa]

Yea just seen most benchmarks of 6900xt toxic paired with the 5950x

[potent portal]

That's because benchmarks will want to standardize more, and the top cpu is what everyone uses

[unborn mesa]

Good answer

[potent portal]

Even if it's not practical for average gamers

[unborn mesa]

Atm pc is being used for just games but im wanting to get into other stuff so

[potent portal]

Other stuff like...

[flint sapphire]

Hopefully not AI

[unborn mesa]

Gon have to give you electric chair for suggesting that

[unborn mesa]

No general clue yet still finding sum that could fit into my busy schedule

@potent portal should i try to do a price match at best buy

[flint sapphire]

I don’t think Best Buy price matches micro center

[unborn mesa]

We gon find out

[flint sapphire]

“We match local retail competitors (including their online prices) and these qualifying online retailers: Amazon.com, Crutchfield.com, Dell.com, HP.com and TigerDirect.com.” - unless you live next to a micro center you’ll have some issues

[unborn mesa]

I do

Less than 10 miles away

[flint sapphire]

Alright well there ya go

[unborn mesa]

7.8 miles

[flint sapphire]

Y not just make a trip to micro center

[unborn mesa]

Microcenter dont take paypal and thats where i got the money for it

[unborn mesa]

Sounds like a big ole cap