building-and-recc-chat

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RKMC8r

do you have fun making them or is that just me

[fossil cedar]

2.5k budget?

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[mossy venture]

somewhere around that

said up to 3k but not much point

[fossil cedar]

Only 1tb ssd 💀

[mossy venture]

can always add more storage

970 evo is 195 rn ig

[fossil cedar]

Yes but 2tb ssds

[mossy venture]

970 evo?

or smthn else

[fossil cedar]

S50 lite has been my go to 2tb ssd

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tdfdbK

[gusty sun]

Changed the m.2?

[mossy venture]

how does 4400c19 compare to 3600c16?

[gusty sun]

Is there any point to doing the old operating system on one drive games on another?

[mossy venture]

yeah, as pato pointed out a 2tb ssd is nice to have for the budget

[mossy venture]

not unless youre getting a small ssd and an hdd, which for your budget is pointless

[stoic island]

Xs70 could also be fun

E18 drive

But that's just diminishing returns

[mossy venture]

mr how does 4400c19 compare to 3600c16?

theres a $140 32gb kit

[stoic island]

Sounds loose but prob depends on subtimings?

[mossy venture]

19 26 26 46

prolly worse

[stoic island]

If it's like 19-19-19, better

Yea that sounds looser

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MQkgXL/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-4000-cl16-memory-f4-4000c16d-16gvk oh wait

4000c16 at $130

nice deal

wait

thats 16gb

ignore me

[stoic island]

Lol

[fossil cedar]

Id do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kvYdbK

[stoic island]

P500a price went up to 170$? Sad

[mossy venture]

oh thats a great price on the psu

ima have to add that to my list

[fossil cedar]

Emmm depends on timings and 4400 working without messing with stuff is hit or miss imo

[stoic island]

Amp price is nice

[mossy venture]

not like, build list

[mossy venture]

@gusty sun here you go, pato smrt

[fossil cedar]

Yeah that's b die

[mossy venture]

yeah thought it was 32gb lmao

[fossil cedar]

Amp price is noice

Lol

[gusty sun]

Thanks.

[fossil cedar]

Although if you don't care about rgb ram https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yBWcxs

You could also go 12900k as an option

[mossy venture]

12900k is def an option, but theyre virtually identical for gaming

$200 or so extra for not much gained

[fossil cedar]

ehhh theyre close

but some games are cpu bottlenecked 😛

😳

[dense palm]

My parts are slowly trickling in

[restive halo]

Thoughts on this list? They need monitor, keyboard and mouse, love red, and are using it for fortnight and roblox. $1300 budget trying to stay closer to $1200.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W92FZw

Or do I go the money route and sell them the other build with the 3700x and 1660 super

[mossy venture]

i was wrong on the psu, id go with the cxf 550

but aside from that it looks good

mouse and keyboard might be a bit rough

the money route would also work however

could see which one theyd prefer

[restive halo]

@mossy venture So change the psu and go with that build

[mossy venture]

if they decide thats the build they want, yes

[restive halo]

Both should do everything they need correct

[mossy venture]

either one would be a good option on your end

easily

actually 1660s one might be better

since fortnite sometimes has issues with amd cards

[restive halo]

@mossy venture https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KRGJnt

[mossy venture]

can you get the ssd for that price?

[restive halo]

Just add the monitor and what keyboard and mouse do you recommend

[little osprey]

two different rommys

[restive halo]

Yes

[mossy venture]

looks good then

[restive halo]

@mossy venture add that monitor and what peripherals

[mossy venture]

peripherals i have not a clue about

thats a question for #peripherals-and-displays

[restive halo]

1 sec

[torn peak]

@austere condor sheesh that's a clean build

[earnest olive]

rommy sus

[fossil cedar]

I'd sacrifice the extra fans and cable extension and get a better gpu
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GNfdbK

[mossy venture]

the person using it is like 9 and is playing fortnite, amd gpus tend to not work well with fn

well, vice versa

[fossil cedar]

And gpus will be fine and better than a more expensive 3060 or a 3050

[mossy venture]

theyve also got a 1660s

[potent portal]

Banned for impersonating a mod and breaking ToS /jk

[gusty sun]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dD6Qd9

One of the guys in my EvE corp suggested those changes. Thoughts?

[stoic island]

#1: do you want to spend an extra 1000$ ?

I don't even see where it got an extra 1000$ from

[gusty sun]

The 3090

[stoic island]

that's 600$

[gusty sun]

Beats me. I added another m.2

But that's like 200

So yeah that adds up

[stoic island]

uh

970 evo 2tb is 350$ for some reason? weird

Anyways, 6950xt vs 3090 trades blows, in pure raster, I'd say they're about the same in general
https://youtu.be/WSTmeZXHWyk

3090 does get some more features but meh, depends on if you need them or not

@gusty sun How much storage do you think you need?

[gusty sun]

All of kt

It

[stoic island]

The thing with storage is that it's simple to just add on another ssd when you want more

[gusty sun]

I just wanna run star xitizen on high settings.

[analog pulsar]

Oh that game

[gusty sun]

I mean it's pretty hard on pcs so it's also just a good benchmark.

[analog pulsar]

@stoic island the people said in discord server that game need a lot of ram and modern specs 16GB isn't enough they said I can get the requirements for you

[mossy venture]

the ssds make no sense

and the 3090 games maybe 8% better than the 3080 12gb

[gusty sun]

Ayyy like I said earlier I'm computer dumb.

I just use em

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zPxfd9

[stoic island]

It looks like no one has a 6900xt and plays star citizen

[mossy venture]

wait

are you the person we made the 6950xt build for?

[stoic island]

or just no one really plays star citizen and does benches

ye

[gusty sun]

The latter

Probably

Yes

[stoic island]

I mean, there's like no benches

only crappy benches

[gusty sun]

I showed it to an EvE corp mate and he changed it

[mossy venture]

6950xt>3090 ti

[analog pulsar]

I can send what they said about star citizen but it's big wall of text

@stoic island can I dm it to you

[stoic island]

what

[stoic island]

wouldn't say that tbh

good amount of benches have 3090ti show up on top

[analog pulsar]

I'll just send it and yo7 can read bc you smart

[gusty sun]

So intel over amd for cpu

[stoic island]

eh, 5800x3d could be an option

but Intel is doing quite well atm

[ornate condor]

5800x3d is meh

overrated

[stoic island]

I've stared too hard at the corner of this vid trying to see good info
https://youtu.be/bTs86UXOgLw
why can't people just benchmark with afterburner osd

[gusty sun]

So amd gpu or 3090?

Which is gonna last longer

[ornate condor]

if yoou buy amd gpu, say goodbye to RT performance , DLSS , good drivers etc lol

[mossy venture]

3090 is more expensive for same performance

6950xt

[ornate condor]

hmm price is different story

3090 for 1400$ would be good buy

[mossy venture]

nvidia has issues with drivers lmao

wdym

[ornate condor]

I dont lol

I mean at least not getting AMD drivers has been stopped error lmao

[stoic island]

I like Nvidia's featureset

drivers not a major factor to consider this gen imo

I'm trying to find data but all these benches suck

no one really plays star citizen

[mossy venture]

amd also has fsr 2.0 coming out soon

[stoic island]

game too expensive

[stoic island]

Nvidia GPUs can use FSR, AMD can't use DLSS

:p

[ornate condor]

poor driver = bad support from company

[potent portal]

Already out*

[mossy venture]

wait it is?

sick

[ornate condor]

if you enable RT on AMD card , performance going down 10times lol

[analog pulsar]

Now we have to wait for it to be added to gamed

[stoic island]

man, @gusty sun my only conclusion so far is no one plays star citizen and the game is horribly optimized lol

[analog pulsar]

Me and tomie play game yesterday and it only had 1.0

[mossy venture]

i lost 100 fps in cold war with rtx on low

[potent portal]

So far just Deathloop but yes it's launched and games will add support in the near future

[stoic island]

50fps at 1080p with a 3090

[mossy venture]

with a 3060 ti

[gusty sun]

Facts, but I want to.

[stoic island]

like what

[analog pulsar]

I had a 3090 and with everything maxed out 70-100 in game

[ornate condor]

i tried to play some games on my backup card rx6600xt while I rmad my 3080 but its useless lol

Without RT you can play most games on max settings but With RT you getting 1fps lol

[desert gulch]

That's because it's not a 3090ti

Duh

[potent portal]

They made the project too ambitious for the studio size, and all the hype was gone by the time it's playable.

[stoic island]

I'm just sad I have 0 data to tell you which will do better

[stoic island]

yea we're gonna skip over how many promises were made, and how few have been fulfilled

and all the expensive microtransactions etc, just gonna skip over that for now, just looking at building something to run it

[desert gulch]

Mr1 I'm kinda mad EVGA made the g5 acrf. Like what idiot decided to do that

[ornate condor]

3090ti for 2k vs 6900xt for 1k
6900xt is winner /

but without price story 3090 is more future proof

[stoic island]

same people that stopped making g2

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[stoic island]

and offloaded their work to seasonic for g6

[gusty sun]

Lol

[analog pulsar]

I like 3090

[potent portal]

6900XT for $800*

[desert gulch]

Imagine the G3 being better than the g5

Oh wait...

[stoic island]

it is

Heck, later g3 should actually be pretty good

[desert gulch]

Leadex i/ii was good

[analog pulsar]

Depends if you can get deal

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[stoic island]

leadex iii is good

[desert gulch]

That too

[mossy venture]

leadex v

[ornate condor]

Im just sad I paid 2.4k to white strix 3090

it was last year but anyways

[analog pulsar]

Sheeeesh

[desert gulch]

But g3 was leadex i/ii right?

Or was it only ii?

[stoic island]

thought it was leadex iii

[desert gulch]

Iirc it was ii

But idk

[analog pulsar]

Asrock

[stoic island]

basically leadex iii

@gusty sun anyways, all I can tell you is that 350$ for 2tb 970 evo is a terrible idea, if you just want more storage, extra 2tb s50 lite for 200$ is pretty nice, if you want faster storage, xs70 2tb for 240$ is nice

really can't tell you if 3090 or 6900xt/6950xt will do better at star citizen

[gusty sun]

Kk other than the drives. Looks good though?

Longevity is also key. Like I said earlier been running on a gtx1060 since 2015

[stoic island]

I prefer 3600c16 for plug & play and theoretically slightly better performance, but it'll both work

[gusty sun]

Idk what that is or means.

[stoic island]

lemme edit rq

GPU can be changed, SSDs can be changed, and ram can be changed
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7YTmC6

I put p31 2tb and xs70 2tb for fast gen 4 and fast gen 3 drives, both are prob way overkill, but whatever

it still ends up cheaper than the evo & evo plus

6950xt/6900xt vs 3090 is a question for another time

[gusty sun]

Won't be building til October. That's when us Alaskans get paid for living here.

[stoic island]

Oh then you might have time to see maybe next gen stuff come out

The list will have to be revised when that time comes

This can only be used as guidelines

[fossil cedar]

3090 and 3090 ti are the worst gpus for gaming because they are stupid expensive

[gusty sun]

I'll come back again in a few months with that link saved.

[mossy venture]

prices will be diff by then

[fossil cedar]

Then the list will probably need to be completely redone

New products too, rtx 4000, Radeon 7000, 13th gen intel, ryzen 7000

[desert gulch]

🚨 🚨 we have a 6500xt and 6400 endorser

[wary tundra]

I just finished a pc and it won't turn on

And I mean everything

[mossy venture]

you turned the psu on?

[wary tundra]

Yes

[mossy venture]

what psu is it?

[wary tundra]

Rm3850x

[potent portal]

Nothing happens when you press the power button?

[wary tundra]

Yea

I switched back to the cx650m and it worked

So it's weird

[potent portal]

~~You're not using the same cables for both are you?~~nvm cxm is non-modular

Make sure eco mode is off if you do that

[dense palm]

Welp my cooler is running late

but my other stuff will come later than that so

[wary tundra]

I just switched back to the other psu

It's on

[vapid jolt]

What's good 50$ ram

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5

[vapid jolt]

Ik but that's backorder

[mossy venture]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NKYM62D?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

https://www.newegg.com/silicon-power-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820301466?

[mossy venture]

^

[wary tundra]

Where this go

[desert gulch]

It's semi

[wary tundra]

I meant this

[desert gulch]

I have one

[gusty silo]

He fellas, first time writing here, i got a ryzen 5 5600x, a 3060 ti and a b550 tomahawk mobo on the way, i was just wondering if getting the following would be good;
-corsair vs600 600W Psu
-corsair vengeance lpx 2x8gb
-samsung 980 1tb nvme

[mossy venture]

no

no they would not be

whats your budget

and wouldve been good to ask here before buying the 5600x, but whatever if you already bought it it could be worse

couldve spent $300 on a 3600

[gusty silo]

Would prefer not to go over 500$ cad, these are already about $450

Whats wrong with the 5600x?

[mossy venture]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Cf98TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-series-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-f4-3200c16d-16gvkb

[mossy venture]

12400 is cheaper and same perf

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/B9CD4D/antec-earthwatts-gold-pro-650w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-ea650g-pro

[mossy venture]

are there any other parts you need?

case?

@gusty silo

also whatd the 3060 ti cost you?

if you can return what you bought, and the 3060 ti was more expensive than the one in the parts list, id do this https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/YGDwY9

if you are keeping the parts you bought, then disregard the the cpu mobo and gpu

[earnest olive]

my feelings are hurt

[desert gulch]

Raisin 5 3600 = best gpu

[earnest olive]

facts

[strong raft]

I like Raisins

[mossy venture]

raisins are nasty

[little osprey]

Raisins are meh

[analog pulsar]

pato hurt me too

demote time

[earnest olive]

pato bad mod

demoted

[analog pulsar]

[mystic needle]

pc made this noise but i pressed down on the bottom of my pc and it went away what could that have been?

sounds like the backrooms

[restive halo]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZGG7GSY/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_A7JQ7YS3YTPQNQST3Y1C

$23 MM711

[vale veldt]

can someone find me a 400 or 500 $ acer laptop

that can run every day things fine

[obsidian wigeon]

Why stick to one brand?

That limits you from many options

[wet nymph]

Hi, I'm doing my first build and my monitor isn't detecting an HDMI signal. I've run through the common troubleshooting tips and am still having issues. Would anyone happen to point something out that might be causing this issue?

[mossy venture]

Do you have it plugged into the gpu and not the motherboard

[wet nymph]

I do

[mossy venture]

Are rhe gpu fans spinning?

[wet nymph]

Yes, as are my case fans and cooler fans

[mossy venture]

There should be a button on either the side or bottom of the monitor that looks like two arrows pointing inwards in a box, if that makes any sense

Hit that and make sure it's on detect or hdmi for the input

No

[desert gulch]

no

[mossy venture]

Bios has nothing to do with gpu

[desert gulch]

theres no way to get in to bios without a post

[mossy venture]

Not mobo bios, anyways

[wet nymph]

I tried both DP and HDMI

[desert gulch]

closest thing would be a pcie 3.o riser cable

[mossy venture]

Odd, what gpu is it?

Ryan what do you think of grabbing these https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q238Q6

[wet nymph]

Radeon 6600X

[mossy venture]

Hmm

One minute

Trying to think, I'm tired

Is the radeon logo lit up on the side of the card?

Wait

[wet nymph]

No worries, it's almost certainly something on my end so I'm good waiting

[mossy venture]

That's reference, is there any signs of life on the card aside from fans?

[desert gulch]

if they want aio, its aight. Just gotta keep in mind either gotta tune down fan curve or get some quieter fans unless they want MSFS in real life

[mossy venture]

For me

[desert gulch]

dont know much about the case

oh

[mossy venture]

Want to upgrade cpu to a 13400 or 13600k sometime

[wet nymph]

Fans are running, but there aren't any lights

[mossy venture]

And the aio is such a good price

[desert gulch]

does clc even come with lga1700 kit?

[mossy venture]

Does the gpu have anything that's supposed to light up?

[mossy venture]

Believe so

[desert gulch]

thats what id check for

[wet nymph]

Doesn't look like it

[mossy venture]

Yeah it does

[desert gulch]

neat

[mossy venture]

What cpu do you have?

Possible it's not gpu and it's something else preventing the system from booting period

[wet nymph]

10400F

[mossy venture]

What mobo?

[wet nymph]

B460 Pro4

[mossy venture]

And you have the pcie power connected to the gpu I assume?

[desert gulch]

ooh

[mossy venture]

Sorry, going through all the basics to cover the ground work

[desert gulch]

do you have the 8 pin cpu power connected up on top left?

thats a common mistake

[mossy venture]

Also what psu ^^

[wet nymph]

It's a split 6/2 on mine

But that's plugged in

[mossy venture]

That's not a cpu power

That's a pcie power cable

[desert gulch]

cpu power is a 4+4

[wet nymph]

Gimme one sec so I don't mess this up

[mossy venture]

Ryan you beautiful genius

[desert gulch]

you cant plug them into the wrong slot

theyre keyed differently

physically impossible

so youre fine

[desert gulch]

thanks

the cable from your PSU may be labeled CPU or EPS, and itll either be a 8 pin or a 4+4 pin

[mossy venture]

Debating just buying the clc and figuring out if I can remove the hdd bay from my pc

And front mounting it

[desert gulch]

hmm

whens RPL coming out tho?

[wet nymph]

It's 8 pin

[mossy venture]

Is that 13th gen?

[desert gulch]

whats it say on the end?

[desert gulch]

ye, Raptor lake

[mossy venture]

4+4?

[mossy venture]

Sometime around November

[desert gulch]

may be worth waiting tbh

im sure more deals will come up by then

[mossy venture]

I don't plan to oc though, so maybe I wait to see what Temps are like and just getting a good heatsink

[desert gulch]

ye

[mossy venture]

To avoid the annoyance of an aio

[desert gulch]

mhmm

[mossy venture]

Def replacing case though

I've got a cooler master n400 and god I hate the hdd bay in it

[desert gulch]

@wet nymph what power supply do you have?

[restive halo]

So I switched it up do to the cooler already being purchased

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tccMC6

[wet nymph]

CX550

[desert gulch]

aight

you see a cable labeled "CPU" at the end?

[mossy venture]

Looking good

Oh one sec

[restive halo]

I should still make a $300 profit and keep them under their price point

[mossy venture]

You think they'd like the look of this case? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/b9tKHx/deepcool-matrexx-55-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-dp-atx-matrexx55-mesh

Found it earlier and it looks great imo

Mesh front and room for two 120mm fans on top

[wet nymph]

Yup, got it, it's plugged in

[mossy venture]

Or maybe 2 140s

[restive halo]

@mossy venture comes with fans

[desert gulch]

was it plugged in earlier or did you just plug it in?

[mossy venture]

Waitttt

One sec

[restive halo]

@mossy venture do the 360 in the front and the 3 fans top and back

[mossy venture]

Is pcp being stupid again

[wet nymph]

Unplugged it to check whether it was 8 or 4+ 4 but it was originally plugged in

[mossy venture]

And not showing shipping costs

[desert gulch]

aight

hmm

[restive halo]

@mossy venture That could change alot then

[desert gulch]

bacca you wanna go thru some more easy troubleshooting stuff and maybe get a pic of system? imma grab smthin to eat

[mossy venture]

Nvm on the case lol

Pcp is being stupid

[restive halo]

Oh ok

[mossy venture]

I'll do my best

[desert gulch]

cool thx

[mossy venture]

$110 shipping not showing up in pcpartpicker changes things a bit lmfao

[mossy venture]

Can you take a picture of the full motherboard and full psu?

With all the cables?

[wet nymph]

Ya are awesome no worries if it takes a while

[mossy venture]

Can be a few separate ones

[mossy venture]

Sata ssd?

Make sure both cables are all the way in on it

Is there a place for a cable right over the heatsink?

[broken lake]

Ok so I got a question for somebody

[mossy venture]

Oh also, easiest thing to check is make sure the pcie power cable is pushed in all the way on both gpu and psu

[mossy venture]

I might be somebody

[broken lake]

Is it worth waiting for the 40 series to come out to build a new pc

[mossy venture]

Depends how patient you are

And if you believe the gpu market will be stable

Ram looks to be all the way in too, that's good

[broken lake]

Supposedly they are supposed to come out mid july (don’t quote me on this)

[broken lake]

Pc no worky?

[mossy venture]

It's possible, though a lot of earlier leaks pointed towards September. And launch doesn't mean they'll be available

[mossy venture]

No signal to monitor

[broken lake]

Ah

[wet nymph]

PC no worky

[restive halo]

@mossy venture https://www.amazon.com/dp/B099K4H2KB/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_8K4FRFYRD2TFS6EWX30V?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[mossy venture]

Mobo power cable looks all the way plugged in

[broken lake]

I’m gonna ask the obvious question here. Did you turn it off and turn it back on again?

[mossy venture]

If that's that's what it's called

[wet nymph]

More times than I would like to admit

[broken lake]

Ok that’s all I got

Throw it away

It’s no good

lol

[mossy venture]

Thick front, meh

4000d airflow worth the extra

Or p360a

[broken lake]

I think I’m gonna wait for 40 series ngl

[mossy venture]

Tho tbf it's not like the 1660s is a hot gpu

[mossy venture]

If I were to build right now, I would be doing the same

[broken lake]

I think once it drops I’m gonna be refreshing the page like a mad man trying to get one off drop

[mossy venture]

I'm gonna go for smthn off drop i think, for the memes

And if I get something my parents will kill me, but thats a problem for future me

[broken lake]

I wish I had enough money to buy a gpu for the memes

[mossy venture]

And before someone says it, because someone always does, yes it is my money I would be spending

[broken lake]

SAMMEEEEEEEEEE

[mossy venture]

The perks of having a job for the last 8 months

[broken lake]

My dad hates it when I spend my own money

I have a job

But gas prices go brrrrr

[mossy venture]

Mm

[broken lake]

And spending addiction go brrrrr

[mossy venture]

I'm getting my license in june

[broken lake]

I’ve had mine for about 2 years now

Let me tell ya

Gas prices were much better 2 years ago

[mossy venture]

Then I'm getting my mom's old Toyota camry with 270k miles on it. Gotta put like 1.5k into it to get it working well, but its a good car

[broken lake]

270k damn

[mossy venture]

Better than 10k for some random car with 150k on it from some rando

[broken lake]

Toyotas never die tho

[mossy venture]

Replacing ABS module and smthn to do with the speedometer

And need to paint two doors

[mossy venture]

Lmk when you checked the things I said

[broken lake]

I might buy a new car this summer

Haven’t decided yet

[mossy venture]

Prices suck

[broken lake]

I wanna buy an antique beetle

[mossy venture]

I was looking since last summer

[broken lake]

So not really new

[wet nymph]

Sorry, phone died. Should my SSD have an empty slot by the way?

[mossy venture]

If you have another monitor, could try another as well

[mossy venture]

:p

That's the power cable

Most likely

The Sata cable goes into the mobo

[obsidian wigeon]

Is it a sata drive?

[broken lake]

Has this pc ever worked?

[mossy venture]

Then one comes from the psu that goes into the ssd

[wet nymph]

Powers connected, sata to mobo is connected, but there's a third little one

[mossy venture]

New build

[broken lake]

Ah

[mossy venture]

Picture?

That doesn't sound right

[obsidian wigeon]

that's sata power, im guessing

[broken lake]

That don’t sound right

[mossy venture]

They said Sata power and Sata cable are connected

I keep typing saya

Instead of sata

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

[mossy venture]

I've never seen an ssd with three ports though...?

What're the odds they used the wrong cable

That'd be so difficult though

Would have to do it on purpose lmao

[broken lake]

Just get an m.2 lol

So much easier

[obsidian wigeon]

it's not hard at all tbh to install sata drive

[broken lake]

It’s really not

It’s actually pretty hard to mess up

[broken lake]

There are three plugs

Tf

[mossy venture]

Tf is that

You have a link to the ssd you bought?

Almost looks like an rgb cable?

Or port I should say

[obsidian wigeon]

Nah

It's not important

I kinda remember what it is

Gotta google lol

[broken lake]

I’ve never seen that before

[mossy venture]

Neither have i

Tho tbf I've only ever touched a single Sata ssd lmao

[wet nymph]

https://eshop.macsales.com/item/Seagate/ST2000DM008/?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_campaign=bingshopping&msclkid=7c1fa4a70b1a1cd5ffd7c62412b84eec&gclid=7c1fa4a70b1a1cd5ffd7c62412b84eec&gclsrc=3p.ds

It's this

[mossy venture]

Oh, an hdd

Do you have an ssd as well?

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[broken lake]

That makes a lot more sense

[obsidian wigeon]

it's only on an hdd

[broken lake]

I’ve never used an hdd

[mossy venture]

Makes more sense

[obsidian wigeon]

https://superuser.com/questions/441817/what-is-the-purpose-of-this-4-pin-interface-on-sata-hdds-and-why-doesnt-it-exis

this explains the use

[broken lake]

I’ve only ever used m.2 and ssd

[little osprey]

that third port is basically useless

[mossy venture]

Interesting

I've used two hdds, a sata ssd, and an m.2 ssd

[wet nymph]

Music to my ears right now

[mossy venture]

Tho I guess you could count the hdd from my old laptop and ssd in my new one

[mossy venture]

You check pcie power?

[little osprey]

😂😂😂

“I am going to punch you!”

[wet nymph]

lemme give it another check

[mossy venture]

It should click

Maybe not an audible click, but you'll feel it "lock" into place

[wet nymph]

It clicked yup

[broken lake]

I wonder how much 40 series is gonna cost

[wet nymph]

Clicked when I put it in

[broken lake]

I don’t wanna go bankrupt from one card lol

[wet nymph]

An arm and a leg, or a brief period of interned work on mars

[obsidian wigeon]

i doubt it'll be a lot more expensive

[mossy venture]

I assume 4060 will be around $380-400

[analog pulsar]

Money

[obsidian wigeon]

it still has to compete lol

[mossy venture]

Which will perform around 3080

supposed to

[obsidian wigeon]

if 7000 series from amd becomes good

[mossy venture]

I expect 3070 around $550

[obsidian wigeon]

nvidia will have to price it correctly

[mossy venture]

Amd gonna have two 7000 series for desktop at the same time

They gonna need to do something about naming

[broken lake]

I wanna buy a 4080 probably

[obsidian wigeon]

i bet they won't

lol

[mossy venture]

If we have a 7800x and a 7800xt again ima get upsetti spaghetti

[obsidian wigeon]

there's already 5600xt and 5600x

[mossy venture]

5700x and 5700xt

[obsidian wigeon]

lol ye

[mossy venture]

And there's the 5500 and 5500 lmao

[broken lake]

That sounds stupid confusing

[desert gulch]

yknow how there was the zen 2 xt refresh?

[mossy venture]

Though the 5500 is oem, and the other 5500 sucks

:)

[desert gulch]

imagine if they do that to zen 3

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

that'd be bad

lmao

[desert gulch]

we could actually have 5700xt/5600xt

[mossy venture]

No way

They wouldn't

[obsidian wigeon]

or 5600xt/5600xt

[mossy venture]

If anything they'd give us 5600x3d

And 5900x3d

[desert gulch]

itd help them overprice next gen further

thats the whole point of the XT

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

[desert gulch]

cause then they compare the new cpus to it

[obsidian wigeon]

xt = $50 bump

[desert gulch]

for like %1 at best perf

[mossy venture]

Wasn't the 3600xt the same price as the 3600x

[desert gulch]

its just a marketing thing tbh

[obsidian wigeon]

no

it's $50 more

[mossy venture]

And still only 4% better than the 3600

[desert gulch]

not at release

[mossy venture]

Weren't they both 250 msrp?

[desert gulch]

its just so zen 3 they compared 5600x to 3600xt

[wet nymph]

Hold the phone I found the mobo operating lights

[desert gulch]

and value wise, 5600x didnt look as bad

[obsidian wigeon]

noooope

3600 is 200

[mossy venture]

Yes

3600xt and 3600x

[obsidian wigeon]

oh wait 3600xt costs the same to 3600x

i think so

[mossy venture]

Yeeee

[desert gulch]

but

3600x was on sale cause it had been out for a bit

[obsidian wigeon]

tru

[desert gulch]

3600xt was brand new so it sold at msrp

[mossy venture]

What da vga lights doin

[obsidian wigeon]

5600x's price made me cry

[desert gulch]

3600x was like $210 ish mostly for a bit around that time

[obsidian wigeon]

and amd took long enough to come out with non x

a little too late eh?

[mossy venture]

My friend got a 5800x and 3080 for below msrp in the midst of both the 5000 series shortage and gpu shortage

[desert gulch]

ye

[mossy venture]

Somehow

[obsidian wigeon]

if 5600 came out earlier that'd put even more fire on intel's ass tbh

[mossy venture]

Built his full pc for $1550 or smthn like that

[desert gulch]

5800x wasnt horrible to find tbh

[wet nymph]

VGA Light on, boot light on, CPU light and DRAM light off

[obsidian wigeon]

i would have loved that

[desert gulch]

5900x was where it was difficult

[mossy venture]

Do you have an ssd?

[obsidian wigeon]

amd poking intel more to make em move

5600 merely came out to fight with 12400f

[mossy venture]

And failed

[obsidian wigeon]

but 12400f is still cheaper

[wet nymph]

hDD

[obsidian wigeon]

and is newer platform

so it's not dead end

[mossy venture]

Yo ima be honest, this issue aside please get an ssd

[wet nymph]

Wait my brain stopped yes I do

[obsidian wigeon]

i only see 5600 being worth for something already with 3600

[mossy venture]

Ok good

Sara or nvme?

[wet nymph]

NVME M.2

[mossy venture]

Yeah, or 2000 series users

Good upgrade from 2700x

[mossy venture]

Do you already have windows installed on it?

[obsidian wigeon]

huge upgrade for someone with 1600

if they happen to have b450

[mossy venture]

Or any 2000 series for the matter

[wet nymph]

I don't no, I have a drive

[mossy venture]

X370s support 5000 as well

Some do anyways

[mossy venture]

I'm at a complete loss at this point

Ryan or foxy, any ideas?

Vga and boot light on, seems all cables are in properly

[wet nymph]

It's like, not physically possible to put my CPU upside down or something in right?

[mossy venture]

Not really

Not unless you were really really really... interesting in the head

Which anyone who can put a pc together as well as you did isn't

[desert gulch]

id try gpu in the lower slot

since vga is display

[mossy venture]

Yeah can't hurt to try

[wet nymph]

let metry that

[mossy venture]

Waittt

Pcie lanes

[desert gulch]

nah b460 and 10400

itd be fine

[wet nymph]

my psu has 2 PCIE cords

[desert gulch]

yea youll only need one

[mossy venture]

You sure? Doesn't b460 have nvme disabled for anything below 10700?

[desert gulch]

you dont even need a working drive to get to bios iirc

[wet nymph]

B460M

[desert gulch]

never heard of that before

[mossy venture]

One sec

I'll check

[desert gulch]

probs thinking of top m.2 slot on b560 with a 10th gen

cause itd a direct 4.0 to the cpu and the 10th gen doesnt have it

[mossy venture]

Nvm

[mossy venture]

Ye

Could also be contacts on the gpu

Wait

[desert gulch]

gpu in bottom slot should help narrow down tho

[mossy venture]

I never had them check to make sure the gpu was fully in

With the pcie lock closed and all

[desert gulch]

hmm okay

ye

[mossy venture]

God I'm tired

@wet nymph try that if you haven't taken it out yet^^

[wet nymph]

Switching the port rn

[desert gulch]

make sure you open latch on bottom slot for it to go in

and make sure you push in till the click

[wet nymph]

I've been trying to take a poke at it

but I don't think my case allows it

[desert gulch]

oh the pcie slot cover things

[wet nymph]

I had to move the SATA Cable but there's not enough room in my case in the basement

[desert gulch]

ah ok

well can try reseating it in the original slot

and making sure it fully clicks in this time

[wet nymph]

Got a nice solid click and my VGA light is running but still nothing

[desert gulch]

hmm

[winter marsh]

dead vga bio's chip?

[wet nymph]

that's a lot of words I don't know

[little osprey]

Bruh

[wet nymph]

It wasn't a computer issue

The just-bought, fresh-out-of-the-case monitor I got apparently has broken ports because I swtiched to my TV and it works

[obsidian wigeon]

Time to rma it

[mossy venture]

F

[bold prism]

Is there any negative effects of undervolting cpu?

[desert gulch]

Possibly stability if you don't do it right/don't test and refine it

[bold prism]

Can I have 2 completely different gpus in one pc? Like what if I have a 3080 and a 3070

[potent portal]

You won't really gain anything from it but sure

[desert gulch]

Yeah but you wont gain much from it

[potent portal]

lol

[desert gulch]

Jinx

[mossy venture]

you can, but unless youre mining no point really

[bold prism]

I have 2 idk what to do with the other

Sell it?

[potent portal]

Even if you planned to take up streaming there'd be no point to having two

Might as well sell

[bold prism]

Alright thanks

[frank stirrup]

i will be running an nvidia gpu and amd gpu in the same system soon so I can use RTX voice

:)

[potent portal]

Scandalous

[frank stirrup]

i mean im gonna have a t600 just sitting around anyway

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/the-good-place-idk-i-dont-know-confused-sorry-gif-16565785

[fossil cedar]

How do you like destroyed grapes

[strong raft]

I like my drinks aged too. Get rekt

Not wine.

[bold prism]

Do I touch any of these? Or anything I should do in bios besides enable xmp?

[mossy venture]

i like my gpus aged

[bold prism]

Anyone know what might be a reason my pc is running slow. Like everything I press on the Home Screen is delayed

[fossil cedar]

Unstable ram could be an issue, if windows is on a hard drive

[bold prism]

How can I fix that?

[fossil cedar]

Also if you didn't have xmp enabled that could have been it

Well for unstable ram you're gonna wanna download and run test mem 5 and run the extreme1 anta77 profile

[bold prism]

I enabled the xmp

[fossil cedar]

If you get a single error it means your ram is unstable and will take a few hours

See if xmp fixes your problems

[bold prism]

It doesn’t sadly

[fossil cedar]

Also for Windows on hard drive, do you have a hard drive in your system?

[bold prism]

I have hard drive and m.2

[fossil cedar]

If so what size is it and what size is your ssd

[bold prism]

1 is 931 gb the other is 3.63 TB

Idk what just happen but it’s running smoothly now.

Msi made me download some stuff and idk if that had an effect

[fossil cedar]

If c drive is the 931gb(1tb) one then it's most likely on your ssd

Pretty rare to have a 1tb hard drive these days and a 4tb ssd too

[bold prism]

Does it matter which drive windows is on?

[mossy venture]

E drive has windows

for some reason

[bold prism]

That’s my usb

The windows is on c

[mossy venture]

thats...

odd

you have windows on your hdd

[bold prism]

Yea I messed up…

Any way I can move it to the other one

[frank stirrup]

Wine is delicious

especially fruity white wine

[fossil cedar]

That's the Windows installer, c drive always has Windows

[fossil cedar]

You most likely installed windows on your hard drive

[fossil cedar]

Macrium reflect

[bold prism]

What’s that?

[fossil cedar]

But just double check in task manager to see which one is hed and which one is ssd just incase you have 4tb ssd for some reason

It's a software

Or you can just reinstall windows on your ssd and wipe the hdd

[bold prism]

Task shows 1tb ssd and 4tb hhd

[fossil cedar]

Yep then i was right

[flint sapphire]

Red wine especially box wine was the go-to for a couple years in my life

[frank stirrup]

Depende

[frank stirrup]

Welllll

Not always

Just by default

[strong raft]

Anyways, yea seems they have the OS on hdd.

[frank stirrup]

Come on red wine is top tier in cooking

U know im right

Thas why i said depends

Nerd

[strong raft]

talking about diapers, boomer

[frank stirrup]

I have a 1tb hdd

[frank stirrup]

Im literally younger than u

Im not boomer

[mossy venture]

rawr boomer

[strong raft]

[frank stirrup]

Ok biostar acca

[mossy venture]

ok (co)r(sair)awr

[frank stirrup]

Now ur just grasping at straws that was bad attempt

[mossy venture]

r(ommy)awr

[frank stirrup]

Has to start with the letter

[frank stirrup]

@elfin flame hes onto us

Run

[mossy venture]

rest in pepperoni

[strong raft]

Reese's in pieces

[frank stirrup]

Ill rest im my bed idiot

[fossil cedar]

Do you also have a 4tb ssd tho

[frank stirrup]

Rekt

[frank stirrup]

No but i do have 3tb hdd

[strong raft]

Rip to kevdog trying to get help.

[fossil cedar]

Cursed

[frank stirrup]

c(orsair)hillin

[frank stirrup]

Its an external drive that has its own 3 pin to the wall

[cyan ravine]

WinRawr

i don't regret breaking the rules

[frank stirrup]

Lmfao

[frank stirrup]

I cant believe uve done me in like this

[fossil cedar]

Did i stutter

[frank stirrup]

D(enominator rgb)as_Felix

[cyan ravine]

pfft

[frank stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/yup-yeah-yes-thats-right-correct-gif-17243036

[fossil cedar]

Raw(indows 8)r

[frank stirrup]

Weak didnt even find things that start with r

cant just put stuff in midway

https://tenor.com/view/pathetic-pathetique-pathetox-cat-gif-17249104

[frank stirrup]

send on wegg wegg

P(GM)ato

[bold prism]

@fossil cedar I just clonned everything. Do you know what’s the hot key to access the rescue usb to boot that?

[frank stirrup]

idk about this one

pato do be a sussy boi

[fossil cedar]

Usually f2 but it depends

[bold prism]

Alright thanks

[frank stirrup]

f12

f2 and del are bios

[fossil cedar]

Ah ye

[bold prism]

Any other way to boot that? F12 isn’t working

[frank stirrup]

do u have fastboot on by any chance?

[bold prism]

Idk how to check but I figured it out

Apparently hold shift and press restart

[strong raft]

In bios if you see fast boot, just disable though

[fossil cedar]

Or just go into bios and set the usb as highest order

[frank stirrup]

bruh u were asking in windows?

we were talking about what to press when pc is booting

[frank delta]

No sleep gang anyone?

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/imagination-spongebob-squarepants-dreams-magic-gif-12725683

✨ time zones✨

[peak ginkgo]

I'm wake up early gang

[frank delta]

I didn’t sleep and I’m about to leave for work in like 15 minutes

[peak ginkgo]

Oof.

[unborn mesa]

Me at 3am

[obsidian wigeon]

oof

[snow obsidian]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/62BTMb OWO Budget isnt too big an issue but this should be ok right owo

[fossil cedar]

Use case? And you kinda want to set a budget because you can definitely spend more

And looks like you're going for a white theme?

Assuming white theme I'd do this instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PzGxgb

@snow obsidian ^

[little osprey]

cool emote

[snow obsidian]

I got the phanteks p500case owo

[fossil cedar]

P500a works too

Just 5000d airflow is cheaper

[snow obsidian]

i have most of that stuff already. My question just mainly lies in if that setup works owo

[fossil cedar]

Yes, is there anything you haven't bought yet?

Because that 3070 is an awful price especially

Also I'd change the power supply if possible

[snow obsidian]

owo okok so change psu

i jsut wanted a slightly flashly gpu but not sure of what to get

but mmmm

i need the cpu, gpu and the other storage

i have the mobo, aio, ram, case, hdd

and psu but ill return that

[fossil cedar]

Do you want to overclock?

Also if you can't return the psu it's not a huge deal but if you can i would

If you want to cpu overclock
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nwXnpH
If you don't
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NDNv4s

[bold prism]

Guys I have a problem. Hopefully someone can help

I have the recovery tool installed and usb plugged in but none of the option they giving me allows me to access it

[earnest olive]

only time ive seen that screen was from unstable ram overclock

[bold prism]

I was using macrium reflect to change windows to ssd

[earnest olive]

oof

[little osprey]

reinstall

i would not recommend moving windows to another drive by cloning it

really messes things up

(i have experienced this issue before and just ended up reinstalling)

[bold prism]

How do I get out of this recovery screen tho…

[little osprey]

basically i used the original drive with windows on it, backed up important files, then did a clean install on the ssd

you can probably just turn it off

[bold prism]

I pressed every option. It ultimately just shuts down my pc or goes back to that screen

Nvm got it to work

[earnest olive]

@unreal bison put a piece of polypropylene under your figurines

they're standing on the vram, that area gets really hot

potentially hot enough to damage them

[gusty sun]

My son was born!

[haughty void]

8 gigglebytes

didnt you read lol

[stuck juniper]

what in the pc building

[mossy venture]

its an android

[jagged ember]

i mean, technically someone built the baby

[stuck juniper]

💀

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/MQndbK thoughts

[mossy venture]

it was the government

babies arent real

[mossy venture]

ill make one in a minute

whats the budget?

[stuck juniper]

1500 1600 euros

can get gpu from usa

[mossy venture]

psu prices suck even worse in EU

ima need patos help for the psu

[stuck juniper]

is the MSI MPG A-GF 750 W 80+ gold bad?

[unreal bison]

Oh

[mossy venture]

its mediocre at best

b tier iirc

oh wait

mpg

its A tier but its overpriced for you

so i wouldnt buy it

[mossy venture]

im unfamiliar with pricing in europe, so @fossil cedar can probably make a better list than this, but this is what i was able to do https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/ync4pH

[little osprey]

It’s a baby

[mossy venture]

no it isnt

its an android

[snow obsidian]

Does tge radeon card have slight light up stuff

OwO

[earnest olive]

just get an aorus master/elite card and then you can make your graphics card say OwO

worth

[snow obsidian]

Lmaooo lemme check it out

[stuck juniper]

uwu

[earnest olive]

yeah you can make it say uwu too

versatile

[snow obsidian]

Thats so pog

[earnest olive]

you can even make it say pog

you can make your graphics card flame your teammates

[snow obsidian]

Can u link it@earnest olive i think im dumb haha

[earnest olive]

which card

3070? 3080? 3090? how rich are you

[sharp temple]

I'm so exited I got myself dual desk mount monitor stand and some sleeved cables, but I'm not bale to install them until 5pm.

[snow obsidian]

@earnest olive mmmm im not rich but 3070 or 80 is fine

[earnest olive]

not rich

3080 is fine

big flex

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6800-xt-gv-r68xtaorus-m-16gd/p/N82E16814932395

this one is the most reasonably priced retail aorus master card

might be able to find better deals on used market

[stuck juniper]

rgb OwO

[earnest olive]

yeah you can make it say OwO in RGB colors

[stuck juniper]

OwO

no OwO on this GIGABYTE AORUS Radeon RX 6750 XT

[earnest olive]

damn

just throw it away

if your graphics card can't even say OwO it's e-waste

[stuck juniper]

is 3070 ti tuf worth extra 80 euros over 3070 tuf?

[mossy venture]

not really

[earnest olive]

no imo

neither one of those cards can say OwO

3070ti barely outperforms the 3070 but uses like 40% more power

[strong raft]

"Like 30%", but yea. Probably 1 of the worst Ti models to get in recent years.

[earnest olive]

36% comparing FE to FE

should change a bit with AIBs

[strong raft]

Ah, I was just going by the 220 vs 290 TDP. Still indeed a large wattage increase

[earnest olive]

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/26075742/spy/22235022

my 3070 tuf vs my 3070ti gaming z trio

3070ti wins by a whopping 1.8%

both oced

[earnest olive]

ah no you're right I remembered 300w and not 290w

still it's not worth

[strong raft]

Wait what's up with the clockspeeds on what you linked though? That 3070 sure ran cool also. (I suppose 6X ram is reported differently than 6). Plus doesn't help that Ti when it was much warmer so had an avg core 80mhz under your 70.

[earnest olive]

it's not a completely fair comparison cause I have one of the strongest air cooled 3070s in the world

and the customer insisted on an nzxt h510 that barely even fit the 3070ti

but it's close enough to illustrate the point

80mhz clock difference isn't that crazy

[earnest olive]

yeah gddr6x effective is 8x real

gddr6 effective is 4x real

that 3070ti had insane vram actually, was doing +1500 stable

better than my 3090

if you do the math the effective speed of that 3070ti vram was way higher than the 3070

not even close

left it in the dust

but that couldn't translate to a significant performance gain

[stuck juniper]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/jqqBqm

[strong raft]

Yea. To me partly just shows how the normal 70 has plenty of GB/s for the most part. I kept almost getting the $700 TUF 70 Ti lol. The KO 70 for at most $630 has been looking decent, so far. Crazy an FE can go for $500ish though (non-Ti)

[stuck juniper]

this

one

[earnest olive]

yeah that 8 gt/s gddr6 is doing a fine job keeping the 3070 core fed

going up to gddr6x really doesn't help much

[stuck juniper]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Y484pH

[mossy venture]

i made you a parts list

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/ync4pH

12400f is same perf as 5600x

[earnest olive]

is it not better

pretty sure the 11400 was already on par with the 5600x

[mossy venture]

12400f wins by like 2%

[strong raft]

5600x beats 12400 in some stuff, but yea they're close afaik. Tomahawk mobo is good but anything higher would add to me saying go 12gen. AM4 in 2022 by itself isn't awesome. Pretty much dead end socket

[mossy venture]

11600k was the one on par with 5600x I believe

[earnest olive]

in multicore sure but pretty sure the 11400 was already on par in games

[mystic needle]

are these good cmos batteries?

[fossil cedar]

No but 6800xt aorus master should, like orange mushroom said

[fossil cedar]

Have you already bought the gpu, how much do you want to go with a small case like the o11 air mini?

[fossil cedar]

Don't import tax and shipping would cost an arm and a leg

[earnest olive]

but more importantly it can owo

[fossil cedar]

Yes

Owo

https://tenor.com/view/uw-u-kawai-pixel-art-gif-18479272

[fossil cedar]

Assuming you have that gpu already id do this
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/FJyqH2
If you don't
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/KspmC6

[fossil cedar]

Pretty decent list although board isn't really enough for 12600k + unfortunately 970 evo plus price was being picked up wrong by pcpp

[mossy venture]

F

[fossil cedar]

Euro = dollar prices in tech basically so that would have been too good to be true almost, only reason why i checked manually

[stuck juniper]

my brother is in usa and hes coming back soon

[fossil cedar]

Ehh how soon?

[stuck juniper]

like june 11th

[fossil cedar]

So like a month?

Up to you

[fossil cedar]

Then I'd do this, switched to 12600k so you get the integrated gpu so you can build it now use it until your brother gets back from the us with your gpu
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/k8H8Q6

[analog pulsar]

I was thinking about it but 3080 I think 12GB is $1299