building-and-recc-chat

[mossy venture]

It will only run at 3200 if it's a jedec 3200c22 kit

[desert gulch]

max supported memory speed is what itll work at

stuff can run at jedec either way

[mossy venture]

It will clock down to jedec of the ram kit

[desert gulch]

anything can run slower

[mossy venture]

Which is 2333c15 or 2666c15

Or is it 2133 or 2333

[fossil cedar]

id personally just make the cooler change https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZyTGLs assuming youre okay with waiting for case to restock

[mossy venture]

case is oos as well

[desert gulch]

Tbh 10400f doesnt even need a aftermarket cooler

stock is fine

[mossy venture]

no mx330s are in stock rn

[frigid night]

ok so why recomend the 12100 over the 10400?

[fossil cedar]

true but winey

[desert gulch]

its faster in every way

[mossy venture]

better single core perf, similar multi core

[desert gulch]

multi core is a hair quicker

its basically margin of error tho ig

[mossy venture]

only downside is 4 cores, so it might slow down with a lot of stuff running at once

[desert gulch]

but for games itll be quicker

[frigid night]

when you say a lot of stuff

can you give me an example/

?

[desert gulch]

games run faster

[mossy venture]

as in like 8 different things open at once, with one being a game

stuff will run on the core that is handlign the game, making it run slower

[frigid night]

so browser/discord/youtube/game all open at once will slow it down?

[desert gulch]

not really

[mossy venture]

not much

[desert gulch]

you need a crap ton of stuff

more than normal

[mossy venture]

itll still be faster than 10400

[fossil cedar]

Fps.. on a clean test bench yes but in actual day to day use with things in the background they're gonna be similar imo also 4 cores not gonna age as well imo

[mossy venture]

pato do you know any decent cheapish cases

bitfenix nova and mx330 are both oos

[fossil cedar]

Not in stock atm

[buoyant patrol]

imo if ur going new go 12100 if ur going used rn (atleast in my area) 7 10700ks are going for 120-150

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dgndnQ/thermaltake-versa-h18-microatx-mini-tower-case-ca-1j4-00s1wn-01 this doesnt look like the worst thing, just doesnt look the greatest

and needs more fans

only room for 1 fan on the top tho

[fossil cedar]

It's fine ye

[frigid night]

ok so I might go with thee 12100 then

but uhgm

[desert gulch]

mb311 is good

[frigid night]

she wants a cd drive.. is that becoming obesletre?

[desert gulch]

very

may as well just get an external one at that point lol

or get some dell or somthin

[fossil cedar]

Very

Yeah get a usb one

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vDhmP6/cooler-master-masterbox-mb311l-argb-microatx-mid-tower-case-mcb-b311l-kgnn-s02 this?

[desert gulch]

Mb311 looks to be best case option imo

[frigid night]

yeah that';s what I thought

[desert gulch]

ye

[mossy venture]

looks like the only diff from the h18 is it has more top mesh?

[fossil cedar]

So bleh for 75 tho

[desert gulch]

not much better option

[mossy venture]

p500a digital best budget case

[fossil cedar]

Well if they don't mind waiting for mx 330 or mx331 variants then

[desert gulch]

yeah

[mossy venture]

zalman s2 looks awful lol

whatever thaty brand even is

[frigid night]

I can't find the 12100 on pcpartpicker

[desert gulch]

Remove the mobo

youll need a newer one to work with it

[fossil cedar]

imo https://pcpartpicker.com/product/36gFf7/deepcool-matrexx-40-3fs-microatx-mid-tower-case-dp-matx-matrexx40-3fs atm

[frigid night]

which b660 should I look at?

[fossil cedar]

if going 12100 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cn4H2m

[desert gulch]

if b660, pro a is great

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3PWgbK

[fossil cedar]

prime is 15 cheaper tho

[desert gulch]

its $115?

[frigid night]

ok so I have at least 1k to spend on her build

[mossy venture]

:p thats 3060 territory

[frigid night]

but I'd like to drop it to 800ish so she can get a decent monitor

[fossil cedar]

nah 125 just saw your tech deal

[frigid night]

well we already have the gpu that'll run her diablo 3 just fine

[fossil cedar]

wont fit in a matx case tho

[desert gulch]

true but could always step up

[frigid night]

hm

so I'm thinking a 12400f?

[mossy venture]

such overkill to be paired with a 1650s

[desert gulch]

yeah its a hard thing

[frigid night]

I don't want her to start doing stuff and then experience slowdown and feel like she got a bad deal

I want her to be able to pretty much do everything on her pc all at once that she wants to do and never exp that slowdown

because 1. she doesn't know what she is doing and 2. I'd feel bad

[fossil cedar]

ryan put the amazon link into auto create part in pcpp, it brings you to this page with a newegg link??/https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q2LFf7/placeholder

[desert gulch]

havent tried

pcpp has been acting up a bit recently

im on ipad rn lol

[fossil cedar]

i mean if you have the budget 12400 will age a lot better

[desert gulch]

yeah

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tqMzfv or https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tzL8rD imo @frigid night

[desert gulch]

For the 12100f list ig if you really wanted to cut costs you could go prime m/ds3h m and a matx case

but its just such a hard deal when that good of a atx board is that cheap

[frigid night]

ah

well in this case I"m trying to up the costs 😄

alright thank you Pato for adding a monitor into the cost

[fossil cedar]

np

[frigid night]

I got about $65 so let's maybe add a hard drive for her pictures and videos?

[desert gulch]

meh

[mossy venture]

2tb seagate whatever it is works

[fossil cedar]

i mean if you want

[desert gulch]

i wouldnt buy a hard drive and load it with anything important

[frigid night]

or would another ssd be better?

[desert gulch]

stuff can fail, its a thing to keep in mind

[frigid night]

oh right yeah

[desert gulch]

anything can fail, its not just hdd vs ssd

[fossil cedar]

i mean yeah anything can fail

[desert gulch]

for non crucial things hdd would be fine ig

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cRtv3y

[desert gulch]

or as a secondary backup

[frigid night]

well which is more reliable.

[desert gulch]

Depends fully on model

[fossil cedar]

technically more reliable would be 5400rpm

[desert gulch]

Mhmm

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b6fXyK

[frigid night]

alright. I think I like the look of this one.

I'm running it by her atm and then I'll start keeping my eyes out for deals

[fossil cedar]

cool

[frigid night]

alright I got the go ahead.

Thank you thank you

[fossil cedar]

no probs

[jagged ember]

just back up all your data

if you have back ups, doesn't matter where you store them

[desert gulch]

^

[untold beacon]

@potent portal I figured it out

I had to switch it to a gen 3 slot for it to work for the ssd

[earnest olive]

again, that means your gen 4 slot is broken

[cyan plaza]

Also trying to figure out if I should buy a ssd or hdd for saving pictures and such to

[earnest olive]

for pictures hdd is fine

dont need fast load

[mossy venture]

16tb ssd, ofc

maybe 100tb ssd

[earnest olive]

only downside of hdd there is noise or ugly sata cables

[desert gulch]

And the fact you can't throw them across your room and still have them working

[cyan plaza]

For backup should I just use windows backup or clone 🤔

[earnest olive]

the only pc part ive ever wanted to throw across my room was 5700xt

[cyan plaza]

Honestly I wish if u use backup on hdd they would only turn on when there is a backup data or when you want to use it by windows

Ine day I'll have ssd external backup system with 1 tape backup. Backing all the ssd

https://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9siv1dsj1h1318
18tb for under 200 😅

[potent portal]

Nah tape drive is too unreliable, use M-Disk

It uses tape too but much more permanent, much less bit rot

[ornate condor]

gen5 ssd

[potent portal]

https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-develops-high-performance-pcie-5-0-ssd-for-enterprise-servers

5 months ago, that's when

[ornate condor]

still not for regular users

[potent portal]

Regular users don't have anything capable of supporting PCIe 5.0 yet anyway

[ornate condor]

I think Highend z690 mobos can use gen5 ssd

[stoic island]

lets see if phison can push more power into the same controller to fill pcie 5.0 bandwidth

[ornate condor]

I think some asus mobos have gen5 ssd slot

i mean not actual slot but with hyper m2 card

[stoic island]

There's no gen 5 NVMe drives so I doubt there's a standard in place rn

[ornate condor]

yeah but 12gbps sounds awesome lol

[stoic island]

oh wait no nvme 2.0 was a while back

although the chipset looks like 1 gen 4 multiple gen 3 nvme drives

[ornate condor]

isn't it delayed ?

[stoic island]

specification was released mid 2021
https://nvmexpress.org/developers/nvme-specification/

[obsidian wigeon]

it isn't delayed

[potent portal]

Now there's an idea.
Use the 5.0 x4 interface. Have a double sided drive. One controller using 5.0 x2 on each side, and effectively have hardware RAID 0 with low latency and max throughput.

[obsidian wigeon]

it's just not used yet

[stoic island]

dual e18's lmao

[potent portal]

There was already an S tier drive that did that but with 4.0

Well, 3.0 x8

[stoic island]

That was basically strapping 2 different drives into one

an1500 or whatever

[strong raft]

Raid 0 w/ one drive is pretty neat ngL, but after gen 3 stuff or even just an MX500 there's been pretty small improvements for most people

[stoic island]

But phison better make a new controller for gen 5 drives imo

[potent portal]

Yeah this, it's 2x SN730 drives in raid 0

But condensing it down to a standard NGFF slot, even a 22110 slot, would be epic

[ornate condor]

why making gen5 ssd is too hard lol

maybe we should wait for better chipset with better bandwith

like z790 or something lol

[stoic island]

Phison is supposed to be working on a gen 5 controller

should be singular controller

[potent portal]

Yeah it'll be next gen for sure we get consumer grade gen 5

RTX 40 series is supposed to be 4.0 still, which makes sense

[ornate condor]

hmm

4.0 x16 port giving like 32gbps or something

so we wont have 48gb vram on 40 series lol

[potent portal]

4.0 x4 is enough for a 3090, so 4.0 x8 should be plenty, making SLI still possible

[potent portal]

It's GDDR6+

Possible refresh later with GDDR7

6+ is 24 Gbps

7 is 32 Gbps

[ornate condor]

if theres no overheating issue its worth to wait for gddr7 lol

but yeah overheating and slow manifacturing making things harder

[potent portal]

It's a smaller process so less heat

6+ that is

[ornate condor]

right . gddr7 should have less heat but smaller process means slower production

[stoic island]

we will have to see

[ornate condor]

means high demand and gpu shortage again lol

[stoic island]

Gddr6x was never a bottleneck for ampere afaik, so I doubt gddr7 will have much issues

Assuming not much changes

[potent portal]

6+ will be 1z nm process

[stoic island]

?

[ornate condor]

sheesh

[potent portal]

That's direct info from Samsung

They've been in production since December

They're also working on HBM3

[ornate condor]

so only samsung making those again

[potent portal]

Yeah only Samsung has that process atm

[stoic island]

I assume you mean 12nm? But don't see much info on it

[ornate condor]

I have doubts they can supply demand lol

[strong raft]

Well 1TB/s* sure is plenty for bandwidth.

[potent portal]

The direct quote from Samsung is " 1z nm"

[stoic island]

what

where

[potent portal]

It was during their Tech Day 2021 event

https://www.thefpsreview.com/2021/11/19/samsung-teases-ddr6-17000-mt-s-gddr6-24000-mt-s-and-gddr7-32000-mt-s-memory/

Samsung describes its GDDR6, which is primarily intended for graphics applications, with 18,000 MT/s as “currently the fastest DRAM in the world.” Samsung plans to increase this to 24,000 MT/s in the 1z nm process this month and is calling this level GDDR6+.

[obsidian wigeon]

if 17000 is actually possible with ddr6 then wew

that's kinda speedy

no, basically double of current ddr5

at least in terms of speed

[potent portal]

It is, yes, in terms of raw throughput

[ornate condor]

ddr6 ram wen lol

[potent portal]

Next next gen

[obsidian wigeon]

that's gonna have to wait many years

[potent portal]

14th gen intel

[obsidian wigeon]

that soon?

ddr4 went on for so long

[potent portal]

All we can do is speculate but that's my assumption with how fast everything is moving.

[ornate condor]

yeah ddr5 is not game changer but maybe ddr6 will

[obsidian wigeon]

ddr5 is just meh rn

it's normal

[potent portal]

No DDR5 is a game changer, it's just not mature yet

[ornate condor]

I dont think ddr5 gonna last long

[mossy venture]

itll get better with time

[obsidian wigeon]

same could be said for ddr4 lol

it first wasn't good

cause it hasn't matured

[potent portal]

Compare early DDR4 to late DDR3 and it's the same deal yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

few years later it got much better

[stoic island]

not really seeing it for some reason

[potent portal]

DDR4-2133 vs DDR3-2400 🙃

[obsidian wigeon]

i guess jedec specs of ddr6 could come out at around 14th gen

just no production yet

[ornate condor]

I do using ddr5 6000mhz arleady and its just meh

[obsidian wigeon]

that's still early ddr5

[ornate condor]

• 15% performance between good ddr4

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

we're still too early to say anything about ddr5 rn

[potent portal]

It's the timings that will tighten over time. I saw over 10,000 speed on DDR5 already.

[obsidian wigeon]

there's 6400c32 kits that came out recently

or was it c34? not sure

[mossy venture]

10000c35 would be

isnt the imc on 12th gen a little meh for high speed ddr5 though?

[obsidian wigeon]

MSI managed to make ddr5 hit 10004

On alder lake

But yeah, that's to be expected honestly

12th gen is first ddr5

Skylake had meh imc for ddr4

Cause it was first ddr4 gen

[ornate condor]

I using 6000mhz cl40 right now lol

[obsidian wigeon]

cl40 is yeah, early spec

[potent portal]

https://hwbot.org/submission/4983860_ren_kei_yang_memory_frequency_ddr5_sdram_5001.8_mhz

[ornate condor]

got 32gb kit for 275$ lol

[potent portal]

Record was set today

5000 MHz = 10k MT/s

[obsidian wigeon]

wew

[potent portal]

Those timings tho

[ornate condor]

lol

[stoic island]

@potent portal I'm now getting really annoyed at not being able to find the og source...

[potent portal]

https://www.computerbase.de/2021-11/schneller-arbeitsspeicher-samsung-spricht-ueber-ddr6-ddr6-plus-und-gddr7/

It's in German, that's why

[stoic island]

no, from samsung

it's not in any of these

they talk about cxl and hbm

no gddr6

I really want to see what they say about 1nm or whatever the heck they were trying to say about their process

[ornate condor]

Samsung is working with other JEDEC members from DRAM and SoC manufacturers to finalize the DDR6 standard, which is currently planned for 2024

so 15th gen or something lol

maybe 16th

[stoic island]

man

Samsung PR just seems sad

everything is kinda disorganized and there's no actual attention paid to anything

stuff here is from 2019 most recently

[potent portal]

It seems it was an "in person" (zoom), no cameras event

[stoic island]

dunno

[potent portal]

And all the videos are just from their PR team like you said

[stoic island]

it's just everyone points to computerbase, like they're the only people that saw it lol

[potent portal]

None of those clips have any usable technical info smh

[stoic island]

look at this high quality graph

yes energy use go down performance go up

cool

[potent portal]

That's pretty standard for a PR event like this lol

[stoic island]

at least this is a bit more useful

but only a bit

anyways, sad, really wanted to see what samsung was saying about their process

[potent portal]

Well I found the page on the Samsung website it's supposed to be referencing but their specs are woefully inadequate

Apparently the 6+ is still in the sampling process though, so early production stages

They're also not calling it 6+ on the website and instead referring to it as GDDR6 24Gb

[stoic island]

It's just I feel like 12nm is more likely than 1nm for Samsung

[potent portal]

It's not 1nm, it's 1z nm

Which looks like 12-14nm yes

[stoic island]

it just doesn't make sense

1a-nm here

[potent portal]

For LPDDR5X

[stoic island]

1z-nm here

Yes, but what

nvm figured it out

[potent portal]

1a nm is 14nm I think

[stoic island]

1z nm is 3rd gen 10nm apparently
https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-develops-industrys-first-3rd-generation-10nm-class-dram-for-premium-memory-applications

[potent portal]

Ah ok makes sense

[stoic island]

and yea looks like 1a is 14nm

[strong raft]

So 10nm++ or +++ like Intel did 14nm++++++ ?

[potent portal]

It's all marketing terms anyway, doesn't really matter

[strong raft]

Gotta make the money and promote the next great thing.

[obsidian wigeon]

gddr10 when

[native dew]

Copped the I7 12th Gen and Motherboard

[formal girder]

nice

what models?

[strong raft]

probably 12700K huh, mobo is the only question.

[obsidian wigeon]

if it's 12700 it's still ok

[desert gulch]

Maybe it was the 12700k bundle

[glossy gull]

4000D TG or ICUE 220T airflow

[obsidian wigeon]

Those are meh

I recommend 4000D airflow instead

[high yew]

what are the best corsair 120mm fans? buddy's wondering and i thought i'd ask

• aio now that i mentioned it

[potent portal]

Why corsair specifically? Their business model is you either have all their parts or none, or else it's incredibly inconvenient and conflicted

[high yew]

i told him to go arctic, or even coolermaster, but he insists on corsair and i don't feel like arguing with him lol

[potent portal]

Well I hope he also knows he'll be spending 3x as much for the same quality fan

LL120 is about $100 for a 3 pack right now

[earnest olive]

a fool and his money are soon parted

[high yew]

i'm not too fond on corsair, even searching up which are the best i'm not sure that i'd wanna trust that. he's just curious to know what the best fans + aio are for semi budget wise lol

[earnest olive]

you tried, just let him get scammed

[high yew]

i did indeed, and oh im gonna'

[earnest olive]

lol, corsair and budget in the same thought?

[high yew]

sit here w my pretty p12's :D

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ydRzK8/corsair-ll120-rgb-white-63-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-co-9050092-ww

[high yew]

ill send these to him

what abt aio

240 i tihnk he wants

[potent portal]

Those are the high speed, high flow model, I'll grab AIO link

[high yew]

sweet, thanks

[potent portal]

White or black?

[high yew]

case is black, however he wants to have a mix of the both

so white maybe?

[potent portal]

Black https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VDWBD3/corsair-icue-h100i-elite-capellix-75-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9060046-ww
White https://pcpartpicker.com/product/99Tp99/corsair-icue-h100i-elite-capellix-75-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9060050-ww

[high yew]

thats like $350 vs. arctic where it could be like $200-250 lmfaoo

ill try and bargain him into arctic, hopefully it goes the right way

[potent portal]

Nah arctic would be $150 on a bad day

[high yew]

canada though remember

looked at that stuff on best buy, $360 i think it was

[potent portal]

Ah hang on I'll grab CA links then

[high yew]

no no i found em

he knows the name of em i have em copy and pasted from the urls you sent

i just looked on best buy website, and they're $360 ish, amazon won't be far off

[potent portal]

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/corsair-icue-h100i-elite-capellix-240mm-liquid-cpu-cooling-system/14969407

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/ydRzK8/corsair-ll120-rgb-white-63-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-co-9050092-ww

Saves 30$ lol

Or, the arctic option
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/FQ6p99/arctic-p12-pst-a-rgb-0db-488-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-acfan00232a
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/c7wypg/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-240-a-rgb-488-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00093a

[high yew]

$350 versus my $280 360mm and pwm's

such an idiot

he has to blow another $40+ on another fan as his case has 6 LMFAO, looking at his price for just these might give him an "oh f bomb" moment

where would one buy colored rgb psu cables from? always see pics and amazon suggestions and i might go for it

[potent portal]

As in the cables have rgb controllable lights on them?

Or just colored cables?

[high yew]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/lian_li-strimer-plus

these kinda cables i guess you could say

don't know the answer to your question, but hopefully that does lol

[potent portal]

Oh the strimers, yeah those are $$$$

You'll be paying more for the cables than you did for the power supply

[high yew]

oh ew nvm

[potent portal]

There's cheap off brands of course for half that, but they're really bad quality and cause issues like failing to power on or crashing

[high yew]

thats bad bad

no like

[potent portal]

Indeed

Good for spending money and showing off if that's your thing, but if it's just you and maybe your immediate family that will see it... what's the point

[earnest olive]

me like strimer

[high yew]

agreed

they're pretty

aesthetic

[earnest olive]

me see cool pc, me get dopamine

[high yew]

i like em too

just too much $

[earnest olive]

I kinda got my 24-pin strimer for free

so I only really paid for the 3x8

meh, whether it's worth it or not is subjective

I like them

and they're not holding back my 3090 from hitting 550 watts stable

[potent portal]

That still means you paid $90 for the 3x 8 pin though right?

[earnest olive]

definitely not 90

let me check

[potent portal]

Because they're $60 for 2x right now

[earnest olive]

$62.90 + tax = $68.40

brand new

[potent portal]

You got a sale then

[earnest olive]

nope

the current price is just someone scalping

(yes, strimers get scalped lol)

I paid $60 for the 24-pin

then a led died so I got a replacement

but by the time the replacement came the led started working again

so I was like alright guess I'll just sell this as a set with my old 2x8 pin that I used with my 3080

then more leds died so I got another replacement

and actually used it

[potent portal]

It's the same price at microcenter

[earnest olive]

$90?

I mean microcenter is no stranger to scalping

call me crazy but I remember seeing quite a few microcenter gpus priced above hws averages

[potent portal]

$60 for the 24 pin and apparently $45 per 8 pin?

https://www.microcenter.com/product/638083/lian-li-strimer-plus-8-rgb-8-pin-pci-e-cable

[earnest olive]

lol I didn't even know they sold single 8-pins

the 2x8 and 3x8 strimers aren't just 3 of those

the led strips are all combined in one piece

[high yew]

https://gyazo.com/5e939de08bf045e16c4843dace617dd7

cad for the same exact thing

hehe

[earnest olive]

ouch

[high yew]

yup

[earnest olive]

yeah I wouldn't pay that much

I was willing to pay $60

[high yew]

neither would i

[earnest olive]

that's what $90?

[high yew]

$100 yup

so bs

[potent portal]

Yeah so you'll still be paying more for the cables than the power supply probably, unless you got a super high end one

[earnest olive]

I feel like I've gotten more than $120 of enjoyment from them

[high yew]

phanteks amp

lol

[earnest olive]

I have a $15 power supply

[high yew]

$100 for a 750w gold

not bad imo

[potent portal]

Good PSU for the price

A tier

[high yew]

yup

[earnest olive]

$15 power supply hooked up to 3090

with xoc vbios

mining 24/7

[potent portal]

Well the difference is you're insane

And mining uses less power

[earnest olive]

it's an 850w a tier psu

kenzie gave it to me for the cost of shipping

lmao

[potent portal]

So it's not a $15 PSU, you just paid $15 for it

[earnest olive]

yeah

[potent portal]

Big difference

[earnest olive]

it's funny to say $15 psu hooked up to a 3090 though

gets some reactions

[high yew]

are there such things as just coloured psu cables?

[earnest olive]

yes

[high yew]

just to match the theme of my case i'd like to get white ones

everything else is black

[earnest olive]

you can find cheap white cables for $20 on amazon

however uhh

[high yew]

"cheap"

?

lol

is that the however uhh

[earnest olive]

just be careful

[high yew]

[earnest olive]

yes that is a melted 24-pin

your eyes do not deceive you

[high yew]

my typa 24-pin

[high yew]

LMAO

whats the best one to go for?

[earnest olive]

something was wrong with the cable extension so that the psu was outputting 12v but the mobo was reading 10.3v

[high yew]

just fried it

#pain

[earnest olive]

and eventually the higher than expected amperage burned the cable

mobo still works tho

there's a little bit of melted plastic inside the 24-pin connector

[high yew]

its fiiiiiiine

[earnest olive]

so new 24-pin can't go in 100% perfectly

but still works

[high yew]

pffff

its fine

works

thats what matters

https://www.amazon.ca/LINKUP-Extension-Sleeved-Custom-Braided/dp/B07T8C98ZQ/ref=sr_1_6?crid=TYEOUF372F2R&keywords=white%2Bpsu%2Bcables&qid=1651042394&sprefix=white%2Bpsu%2Bcable%2Caps%2C100&sr=8-6&th=1

these guys be the ones to get?

[earnest olive]

mobo reads 12v now

it works

[high yew]

he11 yeah

[earnest olive]

they're probably fine

[high yew]

im scared

i dont wanna type it

[potent portal]

You can say hell lol

[earnest olive]

I've actually bought a lot of the cheap cable extensions

[high yew]

okay thank god

[earnest olive]

and only had that one go bad

[high yew]

hmmm

the link i sent above, is that the one to go for?

[earnest olive]

looks ok

[high yew]

1700 ratings

reviews

whatever floats your boat

says they're good, but don't bend nicely

[earnest olive]

I prefer to call amazon user tech reviews "senseless ramblings from headless chickens"

[potent portal]

Eh, that's common

[earnest olive]

I remember seeing this one 3-pin argb fan on amazon

[high yew]

isn't that w every cable though?

gotta work in the bend a lil bit?

[earnest olive]

the item name said "3-PIN ONLY"

[potent portal]

Yeah that's common to be tricky bending

[earnest olive]

item description said "3-PIN ONLY NO 4-PIN SUPPORT"

[potent portal]

It's a solid copper core after all, shrouded in thick plastic shielding

[earnest olive]

item images showed a 3-pin header with a big circle

[high yew]

the one i sent?

[earnest olive]

and a 4-pin header with a big X

[high yew]

white ones

[earnest olive]

top review

1 star, didn't work with my mobo

picture of 4-pin header

5000+ people found this helpful

[high yew]

LMFAO

people blow my mind

[potent portal]

I love when people review one star, "bad"

[high yew]

THOSE ARE THE BEST

HAHAHAH

[earnest olive]

you know what boggles my mind even more

when someone is like

[high yew]

no explanation, just

"bad"

[earnest olive]

great product, does everything it advertised, just what I needed

4 stars

[high yew]

WHY 4?

JUST GIVE IT 5

sighs

[potent portal]

Oh yeah, then there's the ones that must have accidentally hit 5 stars instead of 1 because they do nothing but complain

[earnest olive]

smh, can't believe this $5 cable I ordered doesn't also do my taxes for me while outputting crisp 4K120 HDR

[potent portal]

And also the ones that say "I don't know if it was good, I gave it as a gift" 3 stars

[earnest olive]

4 stars... I mean I guess it works

lmao I saw one like that

"I gave it to my granddaughter, I don't know if it's good"

speaking of cables

I saw that tech deal for 15 cents for hdmi 2.0 cable

ordered 3 fully expecting to get scammed

figured if even one of them could output a basic 1080p60 signal it would be worth the money

all 3 of them are real HDMI 2.0 cables capable of 1440p144 or 4k60

6 ft long

[potent portal]

Not bad

[earnest olive]

there's no way they didn't lose money shipping me 3 separate packages for 45 cents total

for some reason it wasn't letting me add 3 to cart so I had to just click buy now 3 times

I also initially tested them with my cheapest computer

just in case they caught fire or something lol

10 year old igpu

[high yew]

if i were to buy the cables i sent above, is it as simple as plugging them into my psu and then mobo?

[earnest olive]

ye

wait no

[high yew]

because i heard it was bad to mix cables psu wise

[earnest olive]

extensions plug over your existing cables

so you keep your current psu cables

and just plug the extensions on top

[high yew]

thats a lot of wires

lmfao

oh boy

[earnest olive]

it does make cable management more difficult in some cases

[high yew]

extra cables i don't need

[earnest olive]

but the things we must do for aesthetics

[high yew]

true

[earnest olive]

you don't want to know how many cables I had to deal with

12 rgb fans with standard connectors so 2 cables each

rgb water block

rgb graphics card support bracket

hdmi monitor inside my pc

rgb cables

[high yew]

just a gong show

oh boy

i am not excited to put these cables on, but it's for aesthetics

so idc

:D

[earnest olive]

don't worry I use static white color I'm a civilized human being

idk how people can sit next to moving unicorn barf

it's so distracting

I tried it for like 3 minutes

[high yew]

its okay when its lowered brightness

i had mine on rgb for a while, usually during the day though when my blinds are open

but night time its static red or blue

easier on the eyees

[earnest olive]

nighttime it's gray or off

[potent portal]

This is part of why I got a corsair power supply. I got the Corsair 12 pin GPU cable for the FE cards.

Way less cables to deal with instead of 3x 8 pins

[earnest olive]

the 3090 FE adapter is 2x8 isn't it

wait you have a 3080ti

same thing

[potent portal]

It is but if I had gotten another model I would have gotten the 3x 8 pin

[earnest olive]

I like my 3x8

it looks nice

chonky rgb cable

and I get to push really inappropriate levels of power draw for an air cooler

thermal throttle at 550w

I wonder how 600w air coolers are going to look like

[potent portal]

I saw at least one AIB talking about 4 slot coolers

4.5 maybe

[earnest olive]

4 slot coolers already exist

[potent portal]

Yeah the noctua 3070 lol

[earnest olive]

and gigabyte aorus

aorus master and xtreme are 4 slot

I just had a really cursed idea

[potent portal]

I'm still bitter about gigaturd gpu

[earnest olive]

imagine a gpu cooler with a heatpipe designed to transfer heat directly into your case

lmao

thermal paste between heatpipe and case

[potent portal]

Active backplates will still be a thing, even though they'll be single sided, like the 3090 ti

[earnest olive]

like it's still got an air cooler underneath but it's got one extra heatpipe sticking out designed to literally touch the case metal

that would be hilarious

[potent portal]

And it only works in vertical orientation

[earnest olive]

you could probably make it work horizontally

[potent portal]

Just saying to make it extra cursed lol

[earnest olive]

but it would have to be one or the other

man... I dunno how well a strix 3090 air cooled would do in a hyte y60

such a nice looking case but I don't want to water cool my gpu

[potent portal]

It would be pretty tight up against that glass

[earnest olive]

yeah

[potent portal]

It's really meant to be a custom liquid case

[earnest olive]

I run my case with no side glass rn

o11 is too small

hard to close it

I have to push really hard against the gpu cable to be able to close the glass lmao

[potent portal]

Get 90 degree adapters

[earnest olive]

it also increases the gpu and vram temps by 6c

since it's so close to the side of the gpu that it's blocking the exhaust

I just realized how late it is

I need to sleep

good night

[potent portal]

g'night

[flint sapphire]

So long after this convo but…

just passively cool all of it

[fossil cedar]

Interesting designee cooler looks like a mac

[glossy gull]

https://www.wellcom.co.il/memory anyone finds any good ram here

[marsh adder]

I'm still looking for good Linux laptop models and found these two:
6700S for $1,650: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-zephyrus-14-wqxga-120hz-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-16gb-ddr5-memory-amd-radeon-rx-6700s-1tb-pcie-4-0-ssd/6494638.p?skuId=6494638
6800M for $1500: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-strix-g15-advantage-edition-15-6-fhd-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-5900hx-16gb-memory-radeonrx-6800m-512gb-ssd/6466550.p?skuId=6466550

What are the differences? Why is a more powerful GPU selling for less from the same brand? The the Strix G15 a good deal?

[mossy venture]

Out of curiosity, why do you want to specifically run linux?

[marsh adder]

It's easier to use than Windows, and performs much better in my experience.

I'm also used to being able to choose stuff like a wm and I don't think Windows supports that.

[mossy venture]

Aight, the differences in the laptops are the 6700s has the new 6900hx, and ddr5, both which add a good bit to the price while maybe not benefiting you much, assuming you're gaming

The cpu is overkill for any mobile gpu that exists

[marsh adder]

hah true

[mossy venture]

The second one has a good bit better of a gpu, ddr4 which is much less expensive, and a 5900hx which has been out for a while

It's still plenty for any mobile gpu that exists

[marsh adder]

It's for game development university. They said they recommend a 3060 or equivalent, but I'd like to try AMD if the prices are reasonable.

[mossy venture]

Might get a bit hot though, for either of them

[marsh adder]

ohh I didn't notice the different CPU

Are there any other models you'd recommend? I don't want to use a laptop that gets too hot to comfortably type on...

[mossy venture]

The laptops are designed to hopefully not have too hot of a keyboard

I'm not completely familiar with laptop models, just for your budget I'd avoid acer nitro 5 and unless they've gotten better recently alienware

[marsh adder]

ah that'd nice to hear

[mossy venture]

Also for around the $1300-1400 mark you can get a 3070 laptop, $1000 gets you a 3060 with a decent cpu

[marsh adder]

I used a friend's Nitro 5 and it was real hot.

I'm trying to avoid Nvidia as it's a bit iffy on Linux unfortunately, with their proprietary closed-source drivers.

[mossy venture]

Ah I see

[marsh adder]

Made the mistake of getting a 3060 for my desktop and I'm stuck on a 30-year-old display server because of it.

[mossy venture]

I've never bothered with Linux, windows is good enough for what I do

[marsh adder]

heh fair. It's a lot of effort to get up and running.

[frank stirrup]

i havent used windows in a few days

linux is cool

[mossy venture]

You could try to trade it for a 6600xt, on r/hardwareswap

[marsh adder]

I personally couldn't see going back to Windows, but making the initial switch is real hard.

Yeah Linux is such a breeze to use haha

I will definitely look into that!

[frank stirrup]

I switched to linux for android dev

and stayed because linux cool

[marsh adder]

congrats haha

I switched because Windows did the funny "start deleting random files" thing for the third time and I was a bit peeved.

There went my ETH wallet keys lol. Good thing I had a backup.

[marsh adder]

So is the second one my best option price-wise? Anything else I should look at before buying?

I actually live in France but I despise AZERTY with a passion so I'll probs be picking up a laptop while visiting the US in June.

[fossil cedar]

16gb 32gb?

[glossy gull]

What do you say

I have 6700 xt and 12400

Ram is just moving files faster right?

And a bit performance?

[mossy venture]

Unfortunately I have no clue about amd laptop pricing

[marsh adder]

It's the memory that games and apps are loaded into. Faster RAM means you can work with the loaded data faster, so more performance.

[marsh adder]

Me neither :/

[fossil cedar]

Both are pretty overpriced also official linux support will only gain you maybe the fingerprint sensor not being unusable

[mossy venture]

I'd just look around for other 6800m laptops, if that's the performance you want

[marsh adder]

They don't have official Linux support.

[glossy gull]

So 32?

[marsh adder]

I'm just going with an AMD GPU because I'm told it works way better with Linux.

[mossy venture]

Oh also

[marsh adder]

32GiB is more than enough to open whatever game or program you want. I hardly ever use half of my 32.

[fossil cedar]

Ram is needed, it's random access memory, basically short term storage, it's up to you, if you have the budget for 32gb i would

[glossy gull]

I have the budget

It’s like 200 right

[mossy venture]

Are you open to redoing the thermal paste in the laptop with liquid metal?

[marsh adder]

I asked about AMD vs Nvidia here, as I've had a terrible Nvidia experience on my desktop: https://www.reddit.com/r/swaywm/comments/ucmf14/running_sway_on_igpu_with_an_nvidia_dgpu/

[fossil cedar]

@glossy gull
https://www.wellcom.co.il/desktop-ram?product_id=18846

[glossy gull]

Is there one with rgb

Although r people told me rgb looks bad

[marsh adder]

peck yeah

[fossil cedar]

Rgb is personal if you like rgb go with rgb you know

[marsh adder]

Tasteful RGB can look really sleek imo.

[mossy venture]

Alright then the 5900hx won't be a problem, it tends to get quite hot if they didn't do well on the paste with the laptop model

[marsh adder]

ah good to know

[fossil cedar]

https://www.wellcom.co.il/desktop-ram?product_id=104879&sort=p.price&order=ASC

Suncat are you no longer in france?

[marsh adder]

Yeah I've taken apart pretty much every device I own. Never doing a CRT again, that was scary.

I am still living in baguette land, but am visiting friends in the US for like three weeks in June (h y p e)

[mossy venture]

Welcome to gun and cheeseburger land

Well, early welcome

[marsh adder]

I lived there for six years and I very much agree.

[mossy venture]

Ah

[marsh adder]

Gotta love monthly non-drill lockdowns at school yay

[mossy venture]

Well welcome back, maybe you'll get back your government mandated ar15

[glossy gull]

Tysm

[marsh adder]

yay! I can use it to take apart the laptop to repaste it.

[glossy gull]

Super exited

[fossil cedar]

Np

[mossy venture]

It'll def take the laptop apart

[marsh adder]

Good luck Boy!

Well, unless someone objects, this'll probs be my laptop for the foreseeable future :D
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-strix-g15-advantage-edition-15-6-fhd-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-5900hx-16gb-memory-radeonrx-6800m-512gb-ssd/6466550.p?skuId=6466550

[mossy venture]

There's a 5980hx and 6800m laptop for $1550 on best buy

[marsh adder]

oh?

[mossy venture]

I'm not sure what the perf difference is compared to the 5900hx

@fossil cedar do you know?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-strix-g15-advantage-edition-15-6-qhd-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-5980hx-16gb-memory-radeonrx-6800m-512gb-ssd/6486485.p?skuId=6486485

[marsh adder]

QHD

[mossy venture]

Looks like it's just margin of error performance

Like 5% diff perf it looks like

Nothing noticeable

[fossil cedar]

Probably bit of clock/tdp diff

[marsh adder]

And that laptop's screen is QHD. Though to me that doesn't matter much.

[fossil cedar]

I'd grab this one personally ye
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-strix-g15-advantage-edition-15-6-fhd-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-5900hx-16gb-memory-radeonrx-6800m-512gb-ssd/6466550.p?skuId=6466550

[marsh adder]

I currently use two 1080p screens and one 1440p one, and I barely notice it's higher resolution.

Yeah it looks quite good.

Plus it had USB-C charging I think.

No fingerprint but I'll just use a short sudo password.

[mossy venture]

resolution above 1080p is kinda useless on a laptop screen

1080p on my laptop looks super clean, can't see pixels even with my face as close as possible

pixel density with 1080p 15" or 17" is easily enough

p360a down to $80

not bad

ooh, 850 d.f on sale for $90

[rugged sparrow]

Can the p360a hold a 360mm AIO

[mossy venture]

front mount yes, but youd have to take out the stock fans

4000d airflow might be more front/top mount 360mm oriented

[rugged sparrow]

Ok

[mossy venture]

p400a digital would be good, but overpriced rn

[rugged sparrow]

What price is good for the p400a

[mossy venture]

under $100

its 120 rn

[rugged sparrow]

Ok I’ll look into it since I don’t plan to remodel my pc till mid June

School now sadge

[mossy venture]

F

[timid dragon]

Hey anyone know why my pic still uses some power while it’s turned off?

Pc*

[mossy venture]

are you putting it in sleep mode?

[timid dragon]

No

I shut it down

But things connected to the USB ports remain on

[fossil cedar]

No max is 280mm

[obsidian wigeon]

Your mobo supports usb charging while the pc's off but still plugged into the wall

It's an option in bios

[timid dragon]

Oh okay okay I was just asking if it’s normal

Turning it off in bios is okay?

[obsidian wigeon]

Ye

To both questions

[timid dragon]

Okay bet thank you 🙏🏼

[rugged sparrow]

I saw there is a good pc on sale for shellshockers plus $100 off

I would link it but my service is terrible

[mossy venture]

it isnt a great deal

theres a 10700f and 11400f 3070 builds for $1600

[rugged sparrow]

Ya I suppose

Does the Arctic AIO come with thermal paste or would I need to buy some

[fossil cedar]

It comes with paste

[ornate condor]

is 12600k better than 5700g ? 🤔

[fossil cedar]

By miles apart from the igpu

[ornate condor]

Friend want to get 5700g but I recommended 12600k over it couse it's same price but I think 12600k is better

He's not gonna use igpu btw but having it is good thing tho

[fossil cedar]

Then there's 0 question 12600k

[ornate condor]

12600k is very powerful cpu even it's in i5 line. Also it have nice price tag

[fossil cedar]

All the i3 i5 etc means is it's better than the one below it for that gen in some way and that it's in x price range basically

[strong raft]

Eh, shell shocker is like black friday sale or something, 90% of items seem like a better deal than they are

[little osprey]

what's the best looking gpu brand for the 3060 TI

[mossy venture]

any that works and doesnt cost a kidney

[little osprey]

yeah but like design wise

[mossy venture]

i refer to my previous statement.

just look at what 3060 tis you can find that arent overpriced

and buy the one you think fits your constraints.

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3663-KL&associatecode=T1STH5CGA65DO4F

this is in stock right now

[little osprey]

ah

[mossy venture]

or maybe not

might be sold out

was $440 in stock like 2 minutes ago

[little osprey]

yeah i got the drop noti

[little osprey]

does it light up?

[mossy venture]

i dont think there are many models that have a lot of rgb

the gigabyte gaming oc, ftw3, and i believe asus strix have some

other than that im not sure

[little osprey]

yeah the ftw3 for evga has it

not sure ab that one tho

also what's the difference between 2 and 3 fans

[mossy venture]

for a 3060 ti, not much

id try to avoid ventus 2x

it wont be that bad on a 3060 ti, but id try for smthn better

[little osprey]

ok

[earnest olive]

"best looking" is entirely subjective

how are we gonna tell you what to like

[little osprey]

lights

and design

What's the difference between asus rog, asus tuf, asus ko

[unborn mesa]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27JY9r is there anything i should fix on this list?

[mossy venture]

@unborn mesa basically everything

whats your budget for the whole build

1.1k?

[unborn mesa]

Why

Was 1000

Got my friend to go up ti atleast 1200

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tgjtnt

much better performance

[hexed stirrup]

Plus RGB power supply

• bonus points lmfao

[unborn mesa]

Dont need rgb

[mossy venture]

cxf is a B tier psu

the one in your list is B tier or C tier, but this ones a decent bit cheaper

and the wattage is more than enough for a 3060 ti

12400 is a bit better than a 5600, and buying a b450 new isn't exactly great anymore

3060 ti is like 15-20% better than 6600xt

2x16 ram is better than 4x8

Could switch either cpu to 12100f or gpu to 6600xt to save money

[fossil cedar]

Well that's personal , a lot of people like the asus strix, aorus master and gigabyte vision

[little osprey]

ye asus strix go hard

[mossy venture]

Strix tax tho

[earnest olive]

yeston sakura hitomi 3070 #1

[little osprey]

tax?

[mossy venture]

What people call the markup for strix models

Strix models tend to be one of the most if not the most expensive model of gpu

Tho it also applies to other strix products like mobos

Strix mobos will cost tons more than other mobos of similar quality

[little osprey]

god

[earnest olive]

my 3090 strix having a $2300 msrp while 3090 fe has a $1500 msrp

[mossy venture]

And the only difference is margin of error clock differences, and better cooling

Not exactly $800 worth in differences

Though part of that diff can be attributed to the shortage

[earnest olive]

nahh it's quite a bit more than margin of error

[mossy venture]

All aib pricing was high

[earnest olive]

but I wouldn't have bought it if I didn't get it for way below msrp for sure

[mossy venture]

Isn't it like +100 on mem or smthn?

Or 150?

[earnest olive]

idk if a 3090 fe can do 2130mhz core on air

probably not

[mossy venture]

Depends on the bin, no?

[earnest olive]

the power limit is too low

and the cooling is probably too weak

[mossy venture]

Ohh

[earnest olive]

2130mhz on a 3090 you're looking at 600 watts

[mossy venture]

Forgot power limit existed

[earnest olive]

you can actually see some pretty significant differences

I oced a 3070 fe and a 3070 tuf flashed to strix

the 3070 tuf scores like 15% higher

[mossy venture]

Wow

[earnest olive]

that's like the gap between a 3060ti and 3070 lol

the 3070 fe has a single 8 pin connector

nutty

[fossil cedar]

Tfw when strix msrp is higher than fricking kingpin

[earnest olive]

that's what we call strix tax

[mossy venture]

Just shunt mod it

Ez

I'm not sure if I used that term right

Slow internet go crazy

There we go

On the bus currently

[earnest olive]

but yeah it's definitely not a margin of error difference

but it's also definitely not worth $800 difference

my 3090 strix can beat some 3090tis though

[fossil cedar]

3090ti fe and what maybe ventus

[earnest olive]

I sit a few % above a stock 3090ti suprim x

2% higher graphics score

for one of the more premium models

[fossil cedar]

Oh you mean with oc?

[earnest olive]

but it'll pull ahead with an oc

guru3d was supposedly able to oc the 3090ti suprim x by 4.8%

which would beat my oc score by a whopping 3%

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[earnest olive]

I'm not really missing the 3%

the difference would be higher with a 3090 fe for sure

[little osprey]

bra the msi z690 is ugly

[potent portal]

Which one exactly? There's a few

[fossil cedar]

yes you are

[earnest olive]

true

[little osprey]

msi pro z690

[earnest olive]

you got me

ugh

I'm buying 10 3090tis right now

gotta bin them

[fossil cedar]

youre welcome sips

[earnest olive]

keep the best 2 and you can have the other 8

[fossil cedar]

sli them yessss

[earnest olive]

I'll put them in SLI to play league with

[unborn mesa]

@mossy venture https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JpPjZw

[fossil cedar]

[fossil cedar]

whats your budget?

[mossy venture]

whats up

[mossy venture]

1.2k hard limit, after tax im guessing

[unborn mesa]

Got it down to 1k

Not my budget

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QRwypg/msi-radeon-rx-6600-xt-8-gb-mech-2x-oc-video-card-rx6600xt-mech2x-8goc this a bit cheaper

[unborn mesa]

Dude dont wanna go up a bit more for more performance

I got a 6900xt red devil in my pc

[potent portal]

This one? It is kinda bland https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LWPQzy/msi-pro-z690-a-wifi-ddr4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z690-a-wifi-ddr4

[little osprey]

yes

it's super basic

[mossy venture]

basic doesnt mean ugly

doesnt have to have unicorn puke to look good

[unborn mesa]

Nice find

[little osprey]

meh

could have a better design imo

[mossy venture]

how so?

[potent portal]

It's certainly not as interesting as other competing boards, it's just preference

[unborn mesa]

@mossy venture thx for ur help

[mossy venture]

np

[little osprey]

just looks like plain plastic

[mossy venture]

functional is beautiful sometimes

[little osprey]

like the asus prime

it looks nice

[fossil cedar]

if you really wanna bring it down https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PmMRv3

[unborn mesa]

Eh its good enough

[mossy venture]

the extra ram is pretty decent for the price imo

[fossil cedar]

ehh some of them others like anorexic with how underpowered they are

[mossy venture]

and the perf from the 6600xt compared to 6600

[unborn mesa]

Can’t complain much if it performs decently

[mossy venture]

basically 2070s vs 2060

[unborn mesa]

Plus ps4 to pc is a good enough upgrade for him

[fossil cedar]

uhh?

what

[mossy venture]

6600xt vs 6600

[fossil cedar]

6600 is like maybe 10% worse than the 6600xt but it costs like 25% less

[little osprey]

💀

[mossy venture]

isnt the 6600 comparable to a 2060

[fossil cedar]

no

6600 5% worse than 3060, 6600xt 5% better than 3060 basically

[unborn mesa]

Arent all the 6000 series cards compared to 30 series cards?

[fossil cedar]

Apart from 6500xt and 6400, they're jokes

[mossy venture]

as in, the 6500xt and 6400 are jokes

not gpus apart from those 2 are jokes

[fossil cedar]

Yes i added a comma

[mossy venture]

i know you knew, just wanted to clarify for goahway

[fossil cedar]

Yes ye i getchu

[unborn mesa]

I aint that dumb

[little osprey]

what's the difference between z690-A and z690-P

[formal girder]

Just certain features

[fossil cedar]

vmrs mainly

[little osprey]

so it's the same stuff

[fossil cedar]

No

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QztjZw

how does my build look

[fossil cedar]

White theme?

[little osprey]

ye

[mossy venture]

at that price for the cxf id just get this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p9YLrH/corsair-rmx-2018-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020187-na

[little osprey]

ah

k

[formal girder]

I'd change that aio to the Lian li Galahad with the uni fans

[mossy venture]

id also still reccommend the lian li galahad over that aio

and theres a white p500a

[formal girder]

Little cheaper but great aesthetics

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GmhmP6/phanteks-eclipse-p500a-d-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec500atg_dwt01

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JWn8TW/corsair-5000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011211-ww or this

[little osprey]

Yeah ik

[mossy venture]

whats the point in a white build in a black case?

[little osprey]

but the 5000D dosent support 360 on the top

[little osprey]

misclixk

[mossy venture]

why do you not want a front?

[little osprey]

no

cables from the side look eh

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fB2H2m

[mossy venture]

12600k also doesnt really need a 360mm aio, especially if youre not ocing

if youre running it on stock you can use a heatsink

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but they're clearly going for looks

[mossy venture]

mmm

[little osprey]

ye

[fossil cedar]

Front mount

[little osprey]

but i'm looking to buy a h150i lcd kit in the future

unless the lian li has one as well?

[fossil cedar]

No but corsair is just so mehhhhh

[little osprey]

ik

[fossil cedar]

Just buy a small monitor for inside your case instead

[little osprey]

small monitor?

like the tablets

that they put instead of a fan

[fossil cedar]

Hold on I'll show a pic of how someone else here does it

[little osprey]

ok

[fossil cedar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/500102940078505984/968021595354447914/IMG20220421154126.jpg

[little osprey]

intreasting build

[earnest olive]

someone huh

I see you pato

I'm just someone else to you now

that's fine

I get it

[rugged sparrow]

Is that your build @earnest olive

[little osprey]

[earnest olive]

yes

[mossy venture]

nah, its mine

hes lying

i have a picture to prove it

[earnest olive]

sussy bacca

[mossy venture]

see?

[earnest olive]

sus

[little osprey]

just to be sure