building-and-recc-chat

[desert gulch]

...

[little osprey]

what

[desert gulch]

Unbelievable

[little osprey]

Ur

nvm

@little osprey 510elite isnt that big

not really

airflow isnt very good and its expensive

for being a normal sized atx case

k

Nah about mid range for size

$94

k

@desert gulch is the lancool 215 good

its mesh front so

[desert gulch]

It's aight

P decent

[little osprey]

for higher power parts would you suggest or nah

Yeah its good you can always add in rgb fans if you wanted

you're in us right

they're ok but there is only 2 i think

your budget has plenty of room for new fans

no its the same

and you can get it for like $20 or less on ebay or other key sites, dont get it for $100 or whatever

uhh im browsing parts ill let you know when i need input

yes your computer will have that

ok quick thing graphics cards dont usually come in white and the white ones are really frickin expensive so you're gonna have to go with a darker colored one

black/grey etc

@desert gulch sry to ping again but do you know good 6900xt models

was thinking of adding this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9QPQzy/sapphire-radeon-rx-6900-xt-16-gb-nitro-se-video-card-11308-03-20g but i have no idea if its good or not

its the graphics card

basically does the graphics processing for your games and stuff and outputs it to your monitor

idk im asking for confirmation from someone else because i am not familiar with that specific model

hence why we are talking here so others can see the decisions being made

[vague oracle]

Just send the list you have now

[little osprey]

not entirely done yet 1sec

[vague oracle]

Really hope I won’t be losing brain cells from it

[little osprey]

too late

[vague oracle]

Wait a minute

[grave void]

chocolate thermal paste

[vague oracle]

Patience is a really good virtue

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-weird-clapping-evil-laugh-gif-9962946

[little osprey]

yes pls be patient i understand you want it before your birthday but pc building isnt just 5 minutes of discussion

lotta thought should go into it

[vague oracle]

Don’t worry tho, you’re in good hands

[little osprey]

ye

[grave void]

what would this = to in NVidia GeForce

[little osprey]

3090

[vague oracle]

Beats out a 3090 slightly in raw performance

[little osprey]

Yes i am glad you stopped by here

how'd you find out about us

[vague oracle]

And you would’ve been an idiot if you had

[little osprey]

wow how lucky

[vague oracle]

First good thing to come out of Roblox

[little osprey]

^

yoo hold up 😂 we're still working on parts

graphics card (GPU)

or graphics processing unit if you want to call it that

oh hey you're level 3 now

you can send images

[vague oracle]

Do you have a microcenter by you?

[little osprey]

what big city is near you

tuOwk

sad

rip

so east coast

you live close to any of those cities?

ok nevermind then you're probably too far from a micro center for your parents to happily drive you there

[grave void]

I dont really like radeon

[little osprey]

neither do i but its 1k for near 3090 perf

its also personal preference

[grave void]

I see

[desert gulch]

It's a nice one

[grave void]

I got a 3060 ti

[little osprey]

w

thats a good gpu

not yet

hold on

[grave void]

used is more lol

https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-6900-xt-11308-03-20g/p/N82E16814202403?Item=N82E16814202403&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-QiLkH66mNIJnJq5InWEVsw

[little osprey]

im gonna go study real quick because i got exams so alec gonna take it from here (maybe)

shorten your links please you guys

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-6900-xt-11308-03-20g/p/N82E16814202403?

anything after that first question mark can delete

[desert gulch]

That's actually a nice deal

It's a xtxh too

[little osprey]

its vram, which is the memory for your graphics card. 16gb is FOUR TIMES what i have. you're good for roblox or whatever tf you're playing

thats separate from your system memory, which goes on the motherboard

you should definitely learn more about computers before you build

[grave void]

yes

[little osprey]

dont keep pinging him lol hes still working on it

[grave void]

do you know how to build a pc

[little osprey]

well you need to know how it works and where things go before you build

they have no clue

[grave void]

it will take you years if you dont know how

[little osprey]

ehhh idk

what games do you play or what do you plan on doing on this pc

[desert gulch]

Doubt

[little osprey]

no things will come with cables

[grave void]

yes

[little osprey]

you can get custom ones if you would like but otherwise everything should come with cables

sure that works

its hard to go wrong just dont watch anything with "the verge" in the title

[desert gulch]

I've been here 2 years and I knew how to build a PC after my first week here easily

[grave void]

even pro builders have problems

[little osprey]

techsource is fine

his content is for the younger audience but he at least knows what he's doing

[grave void]

people are different

[vague oracle]

I’d go for this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YtQBjZ

Opinions?

[grave void]

you fry your components

[desert gulch]

How

[little osprey]

thats hard to do these days

[vague oracle]

Close to damn impossible

[desert gulch]

How would you do that?

List a specific error you need to make

[grave void]

you would be surprised

[little osprey]

uhh., no

[vague oracle]

No we wouldn’t

[little osprey]

lmao

[grave void]

I would recommend having someone who knows even a bit about computers

[vague oracle]

We’ve seen EVERYTHING and I mean everything at this point and someone frying their components is not one of them

[desert gulch]

Basically only way to fry components is manually oc them to hell

[little osprey]

ground your pc, touch the case every now and then, keep the psu plugged in, and you're like 100% fine

we did find one

its in the list

[vague oracle]

Yeah I found one, click the link I sent

[desert gulch]

Or getting a crap PSU, that'll fry components

But the lists we have won't have crap psus

[grave void]

the psu

is what I mean

[desert gulch]

We won't let a bad PSU on their list

[vague oracle]

Yeah that’s the one

[desert gulch]

We'll fix it

[little osprey]

this is junk

[desert gulch]

I'd pass on that PSU for sure

[little osprey]

you dont need a 12900k for roblox bro

[desert gulch]

Cwt csb-a unit

[vague oracle]

It’s better but absolute overkill, not point in it

[desert gulch]

It's not greay

[little osprey]

12600k is going to be wayyyy more than enough for you lol

[vague oracle]

@little osprey Forget about your NZXT build, this is what you should be paying attention to https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YtQBjZ

[grave void]

if your playing roblox save your money

[cyan ravine]

Do it like this you get same or better for $75 less
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K66mrD

[desert gulch]

Toss a 12700(f)(k) on there tbh, for that price

[cyan ravine]

Also g.skill expensive

[little osprey]

red or brown switches... hmmm

would the average gamer like red brown or blue

[vague oracle]

I was thinking that too but then again, might as well save the money with a 12600k and put the money towards a nicer monitor or other peripherals

[little osprey]

hold on, the list we sent literally has links to every part.

[grave void]

fortnite is not hard to run

[vague oracle]

Especially since he wants to do YouTube

[little osprey]

you could get an $800 pc and you'd be fine lol

yes

[desert gulch]

It's not much saved tho

[vague oracle]

Good mic would be nice

[grave void]

overclocking it?

[little osprey]

dude

[vague oracle]

How much is the 12700kf?

[desert gulch]

If he wants to do yt, a couple extra cores is nice

[little osprey]

you think that guy is gonna overclock

[desert gulch]

Idk

[little osprey]

384 i think

[desert gulch]

The k sku may still be cheapest

Or kf

Or f

Or non k and non f

[vague oracle]

True you got a point there

[grave void]

3000 for roblox and fortnite

wow

[vague oracle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WtKGLs

[desert gulch]

Literally playing Roblox xD

[little osprey]

@little osprey do you have a desk yet

[vague oracle]

Wait actually if he’s planning to do YouTube wouldn’t NVENC help with that?

[little osprey]

dude.

a 6900xt is fine

lol

[grave void]

youtube you dont need a 3000 oc

pc

[desert gulch]

Prolly not worth imo

12700kf already pog

[little osprey]

if his parents are willing to pay idk if it really matters to us

preparing

LOL

[vague oracle]

True true

YES

[grave void]

I would recommend you dont pay 3k

2k I would say @little osprey

[little osprey]

ur not even gonna use 25% of your pc if you pay $3000 for it.

you're not

wym nervous

[desert gulch]

You won't mess it up

[little osprey]

ok i understand that

[grave void]

3k is not worth it for what your using it

other then bragging rights

[desert gulch]

Building a pc nowadays is not difficult tbh

[grave void]

like what

make games?

[desert gulch]

If looking for adobe and stuff nvenc and quicksync may be worth looking in to

[grave void]

get a bigger ssd

[desert gulch]

I gtg but another techie will probs help

[vague oracle]

We have all the parts…

LITERALLY CLICK THE LINK I SENT

IT HAS EVERY PART CHOSEN FOR YOU ALREADY

[little osprey]

Bro its got everything on there

im editing it rn and adding like anything you could possibly need

[grave void]

do you know anyone that knows computers btw?

[little osprey]

its a link

you like

click it

and it takes you to a website

[vague oracle]

Honestly if you’re going to do Adobe and stuff I’d probably change it to this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xLwjZw

[little osprey]

evga has 3080 for like 900 i think

10gb for 919

[vague oracle]

10gb for $900?

[little osprey]

yes

is 12gb worth the extra money lol

k

mmhm

[vague oracle]

12gb is practically the same or 1-2% off a 3080ti

Honestly I’d say the 1k 12gb is better value than the $910 10gb

The extra 2 gigs could be useful with Adobe and stuff

[little osprey]

dude doesnt even know how to edit

[vague oracle]

True that but there’s the possibility if he ever will

[little osprey]

the gpu isnt white tho

[vague oracle]

im going to kill you

@little osprey What do you think of a white 3080 10gb strix for $1330

[little osprey]

hard pass

[vague oracle]

That’s what I’m thinking

Only other white option is the 3080 ti gigabyte Vision for like $1500

Which imo is another hard pass

[earnest olive]

@vague oracle yes?

[little osprey]

wut

nice keyboard bro

[earnest olive]

he asked me to come here in general chat

thanks

[little osprey]

OH HELL WTF

[vague oracle]

Opinions on this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/67GH2m

Sippy to the rescue

[little osprey]

IS THAT THE OFFICE PC MAX

[earnest olive]

yeah

you like what i did to it?

[little osprey]

dude

i would buy that

[earnest olive]

😳

[little osprey]

that is fricking amazing

rgb too

more fps

ill give you opinions when you ask your parents nicely if they will pay $3000 for a pc and they say yes

right

i been here for like an hour what else do you need

we've already said multiple times that its like 10x overkill for roblox and fortnite

[earnest olive]

1. vrms a little weak especially with aio meaning no airflow over vrms from the cooler
2. $1104+tax is a revolting price for a 3080, i've seen cheaper 3080tis on hws

[little osprey]

the 3080 pick was for color

oh wait it wasnt the white one

nvm

bro hold on we aren't even talking to you

[cyan plaza]

[vague oracle]

Only thing is I really doubt he will go on hws

[earnest olive]

you know what that's fair

[little osprey]

dude is 13 i dont think they're going on any third party things

[vague oracle]

What mobo would you recommend

He wants a white build

[earnest olive]

i kinda doubt this guy is going to OC, so i guess this mobo is fine

[cyan plaza]

Make sure you don't give him the white case I got 😅

I was suggested a case but it doesn't fit a 3 fan aio

[vague oracle]

It’s a 4000D airflow, it’ll fit a 360 rad

This should be fine https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FNYwcb

[little osprey]

dude still need peripherals and stuff

[vague oracle]

Ahh shoot

[little osprey]

oh my lord

my list just got reset

[cyan plaza]

This one only has a 2 slot on top

[little osprey]

how unlucky

[vague oracle]

We have around $700 to work with for peripherals

[vague oracle]

You can put it up front

[cyan plaza]

It doesn't fit for some Reason

[little osprey]

you already have keyboard and mouse?

you dont need a gaming table

you just need a table

ok

you need to go to bed and i need to go continue studying

[vague oracle]

…he actually has a good mouse

[little osprey]

what keyboard

people tell you a lot of good things

royal kludge rk61 white

why dude

you're in middle school

get your sleep in

ok but thats not the point

[vague oracle]

He’s in like 8th grade, they have like no responsibilities

[little osprey]

That’s not really a big responsibility

Ok so you need to listen

[vague oracle]

Welp back to the PC

[little osprey]

stop sending messages

You have to get your parents to FULLY AGREE 100% with you on this pc idea

You need to talk to them about your decisions

I said idea

You can’t just ask them to spend 3k on the spot

she didn’t say yes

[earnest olive]

wish my parents spent 3k on a pc for me as a kid lmao

[vague oracle]

You have to butter them up a bit

[vague oracle]

Same

[earnest olive]

if i asked for a 3k pc i'd just get a beating instead

[little osprey]

Same

I’d get absolutely nothing

[vague oracle]

I got my dad’s old PC from like 2003 and a beating with a bundle of sticks

[little osprey]

Newspaper for me

or frozen food

lmao

[earnest olive]

la chancla moment

[vague oracle]

The Slavic bundle of sticks is worse

[potent portal]

The only computers I got when I was a kid was my grandma's old Windows 98 after she got XP and a refurbished laptop

[vague oracle]

Type

In

Full sentences

See how

Annoying

It is?

@little osprey That’s all you

[little osprey]

Mic: k669b

[vague oracle]

Bye bye

[little osprey]

table: whatever tf you like in ikea

[restive halo]

Mistake

[little osprey]

windows 11 or 10: buy it off some cdkey website for $20 or less

[tidal moth]

lol

[restive halo]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gwrW4s

[little osprey]

ping us when you buy it

and realize u spent like an hour asking for parts when we sent the same thing 30 minutes ago

[quasi stone]

Is it possible if anyone can go on a call with me and help me build my pc?

[vague oracle]

Moose he’s yours

[subtle sail]

Anyone know a good build to stream and play games?

Around 2k ? Maybe 2.5

[vague oracle]

Scroll up a bit, should be the first link you see

[subtle sail]

Okay

This one?

[vague oracle]

Yeah, do you want a white or black case?

[quasi stone]

Is there anyone that can go on a call with me and help me build my pc?

[subtle sail]

White

[little osprey]

if no button then it’s sold out

i can come back and help tomorrow but i’m done for tonight (sorry)

i have a life too believe it or not

[jaunty nacelle]

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=10G-P5-3897-KL

10gb not oos

[subtle sail]

Is the gigabyte auros still available?

Anyone know?

[vague oracle]

Just get this instead then https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=10G-P5-3897-KL

Yes?

[vague oracle]

It is but personally I’m not a fan of Aorus

YES

[subtle sail]

But I like the display

But honestly I don't think I'll look at it

[vague oracle]

I had an Aorus master but I never really looked at the display

[subtle sail]

What's the best cpu

[vague oracle]

It’s really just a gimmick

[vague oracle]

Currently the 12900KS but overkill for 99% of people

Especially if just gaming

[quasi stone]

Have you built a pc?

[subtle sail]

I'm trying to game and stream

As of right now I have a gaming laptop

[vague oracle]

Yeah a 12700KF is more than enough

[vague oracle]

Yes but I’m not getting into a voice call rn

[subtle sail]

Okay okay

And gpu?

[vague oracle]

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=10G-P5-3897-KL

Literally just use the link that I sent to the other guy but use this GPU instead

[quasi stone]

Is it ok if we can call in 1-2 weeks?

[subtle sail]

Yah I zee that I feel dumb now

[vague oracle]

Just send a message here if you have questions

[subtle sail]

My bad

[vague oracle]

All good

[subtle sail]

So intel is better then amd?

[vague oracle]

Currently for price/performance yes

[subtle sail]

Really?.. I thought amd was bc of price

[vague oracle]

There is the 5800X3D out right now but there is no upgrade path past it because the socket is ending

Gigabyte M27Q

[quasi stone]

I'm not confident enough to build it myself and since you have experience you would be the best person to go to.

[little osprey]

Just go on youtube and find build guides from linus tech tips or techsource

You can’t go wrong with them

[subtle sail]

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/27-odyssey-g30a-gaming-monitor-ls27ag302nnxza/?cid=pla-ecomm-pfs-mon-us-google-na-03112022-170121-&ds_e=GOOGLE-cr:0-pl:295207915-&ds_c=FF~Monitors+SSC_CN~Monitors+SSC_ID~B0000PZN_PH~on_MK~us_BS~multi_PR~mon_SB~msmul_FS~hqloe_CA~smp_KS~nag_MT~na-&ds_ag=AG~Monitors+SSC_ID~E0001FZA_MK~us_AT~sa_MD~h_PK~roah_PB~google_AI~n_AE~oth1_TG~3mr_SA~res-&ds_k=PRODUCT_GROUP&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3v6SBhCsARIsACyrRAmpUtc06lQ4ycOFRac_slIMwRxHzRNIX3EgA_gJD0KmzgI1fFeu_nkaAmFxEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

[little osprey]

Link 💀

[subtle sail]

Good monitor

[quasi stone]

ok

oh can also tell me if this is a good build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vkfrDq

[vague oracle]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigabyte-27-ips-led-qhd-freesync-monitor-with-kvm-hdmi-displayport-usb-black/6438287.p?skuId=6438287&ref=NS&loc=101

Better monittor^

[vague oracle]

Not at all, what’s your budget? @little osprey Will help you out

[quasi stone]

1k

[vague oracle]

Are you able to spend an extra $100?

[quasi stone]

nah

[vague oracle]

This is the absolute best you’ll get for sub 1k https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali564-master/p/N82E16883360194R

At under 1k, there isn’t much point in building yourself

[quasi stone]

Ok

[vague oracle]

You just sent me a worse monitor

[still roost]

TuOwk#4029 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[cursive wharf]

That's a pretty small desk, if you plan to keep your PC on your desk there wont be much room for other stuff

[strong raft]

Frugal/Modest isn't bad. Get this, biggest pc part cost I got as a kid was a 6800 GT for $300+. Half Life 2 was great.

@wheat coral strix 1080 gang , 32GB gang, & 4core8thread gang ---edit:

[wheat coral]

yessiiiiir

[strong raft]

Are you who had a 970 just like me? lol. Well we're both probably content until the 1st 40 series makes an appearance & can watch 30 series prices get much better eventually.

[wheat coral]

980 lol

[wheat coral]

570 -> 280x -> 980 -> 570 -> 1080

im content for a long while after 40 series

[strong raft]

Cool. Ya bounced around a bit. Skipping some of my older ones, had the lil 660 before the 970. Most of my games were older & mostly FPS, not very demanding. I realized how much the 3550 w/ only 4 threads was holding me back. No case yet, but I think tomorrow is "new" build & monitor time. 60hz needs to go bye bye.

[wheat coral]

mmm yeagh

i need new monitor

[little osprey]

moyai

[ornate rock]

my pc turns on fans running but there’s no display and no power to mouse n keyboard is my cpu dead? i unplugged the cmos battery for 5 mins then plugged it back in still no sign of connection

thoughts??

[potent portal]

Start with your specs, and did anything happen right before this? Is this a new build or one that's been running?

[ornate rock]

i just built it like last week and haven’t had any problems with it last time i used it was i shut it down and it’s been sitting for 3 days since the last time i used it has a i9 32gbs ram and a 1080 first thing i noticed that was weird that happened the other day my bluetooth just stopped working out of know we’re when i been using it for my controller so i made sure the drivers were up to date and they were so i didn’t really care to much that it wasn’t working bc i mostly use keyboard n mouse but then today i turn my pc on no display no connection to mouse n keyboard the keyboard will flash then won’t turn on

[potent portal]

Which i9 and what model motherboard exactly?

There's dozens of i9 processors

@ornate rock

[buoyant patrol]

I had a similar problem (with my adapter not working) and ngl I just put my Wifi/Bluetooth on a pcie card. I’ve heard that uninstalling and reinstalling Bluetooth drives help but you should probably give more info before doing smth irreversible or damaging. (Just realized there’s a bigger problem lol)

[little osprey]

3060 or a 6600 XT

[mossy venture]

depends what youre doing

and which is cheaper

[little osprey]

gaming

just gaming

[mossy venture]

1080p?

[little osprey]

ye

[mossy venture]

how much are they

[little osprey]

retail?

[mossy venture]

the price you can get them at

[little osprey]

both under 400$

[mossy venture]

and you can get them at that price this minute?

i dont mean the msrp

[little osprey]

i mean wait for drops

[mossy venture]

then either one

whichever youc an get for cheaper

[little osprey]

ok

[little osprey]

will a h100i fit in a p400a

[mossy venture]

id get a liquid freezer ii instead

[lapis portal]

I'm looking to upgrade my CPU, MOBO, and getting new RAM. Will I have to re-purchase an operating system as well as clear everything from my ssd?? Also does anyone know if the ML240R will fit on the on an i9 12000k?

[little osprey]

what

[mossy venture]

i would refer to my previous message

[potent portal]

If you're signed into your microsoft account you can transfer your license if you have 10/11

Reinstalling the OS is highly recommended

[little osprey]

i want a display tho

[mossy venture]

for why

[potent portal]

Also which 12000k

[mossy venture]

oh i read that as 12900k lol

[potent portal]

12600k? 12700k? 12900k?

[mossy venture]

12600k you can get away with that 240, or a heatsink suck as the ak620

[lapis portal]

Ooops sorry 12900k

[mossy venture]

yeah... youll want a 360mm for that

[potent portal]

Oh no a 240mm isn't going to be nearly enough

[mossy venture]

i would reccomend liquid freezer ii 360 or lian li galahad

[potent portal]

That's literally the hottest consumer CPU right now

[mossy venture]

well, 5800x3d might be hotter

[potent portal]

It's not

[lapis portal]

Dang did not know that

[potent portal]

That thing can use 250W+ on stock settings

[lapis portal]

So should i look at also upgrading my PSU too? Currently have a 860w 80+ plat fully modular

[mossy venture]

depends on your gpu

but generally, no

unless youre heavily ocing and unlocking a 3090 ti and the 12900k, no

even then prolly not

[lapis portal]

Asus strix 1070

[lapis portal]

Not planning on ocing but planning on getting a 3080 or 3090

[mossy venture]

youll be fine then

more than fine

[lapis portal]

Thank you!

[potent portal]

If you're not overclocking you should be ok even after upgrading

But if you want to increase power limits on the cpu/gpu 1000W may be needed

My RM850x handles a 5800X and a 3080 ti overclocked, which is about what the 12900k and 3080 would draw at stock

[marsh sluice]

so far I have no issues with 5950x and 3080ti. only pbo on cpu.

850 psu

[untold beacon]

Man can’t wait to get myself a 3070 ti as soon as that hits $700 I’m a buy it instantly

[potent portal]

The EVGA XC is $610 when it comes back in stock

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3783-KL

[untold beacon]

And it probably won’t come back in stock for a fat minute

[potent portal]

Well if it doesn't then the $700 model will. They restock pretty regularly.

[untold beacon]

And the price has only dropped by $200 in the past 2 months so it’s progress

I’m trying to go after the MSI 3070 gaming x trio in particular

Ya prices are dropping and things are coming back in stock so that’s a good thing for GPU’s

[potent portal]

High end stuff is staying in stock at or near msrp for extended times. Now we wait for the mid range.

[untold beacon]

Yep

Right on

I’m at least waiting till the 4000’s specs come out and then I’ll decide if I’ll go for a 4000’s series or a 3070 ti like I was planning on

[potent portal]

4000 is looking pretty hot

Literally. Over 500W on the 4090.

They're also going to launch the 4090 first by reports I've seen, the 4070 will come several months after.

If AMD can match their performance at a lower power draw and cost, it'll be hard to recommend any 4000 cards

[untold beacon]

True on that

[lime jay]

Hey guys, so I've got the final piece for my first pc build coming in monday, do you guys have any tips or pointers for a first timer?

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jy3BjZ

how's my build looking

[mossy venture]

whats your overall budget

[little osprey]

1500

[mossy venture]

the case is overpriced, id replace it with the 4000d airflow or p400a digital

and the psu is less than desirable

id go lian li galahad over that aio as well

[little osprey]

p400a dosent support 360mm aio

[mossy venture]

yes it does

[little osprey]

my ram sticks ?

[mossy venture]

p400a digital supports 360mm, you just have to remove some stock fans

[mossy venture]

what about them

[mossy venture]

maybe not actually

i think 360mm fits top mount

[little osprey]

i want to mount it on the top

it only fits front

[mossy venture]

even so, why do you not wont front mount?

[little osprey]

looks

about it

i might not buy a case now then and just save it for after upgrades

i already have a p400a

rn

[little osprey]

psu?

[mossy venture]

power supply

[little osprey]

i want to upgrade the lcd in the future that's why i went with the h150i

[little osprey]

what's wrong with it

you have any better options

[mossy venture]

its c tier iirc

well im assuming you want it to be white

[little osprey]

yep

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9KGbt6/corsair-rm-2021-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020232-na the only semi reasonably priced white unit

and its complete overkill for you

whats the point in doing a white build when the gpus black?

[little osprey]

😵‍💫 um

i need a white one

[mossy venture]

that... is white?

[little osprey]

yuh

no

[little osprey]

gpu

[mossy venture]

ah

[strong raft]

Gonna be a no from me, dawg

[desert gulch]

Cxf is a good b tier

[mossy venture]

i thought it was the low pri c tier?

[desert gulch]

Nah

Probs cxm you're thinking of

[mossy venture]

oh damn

my bad

[desert gulch]

Cxf is pog

[little osprey]

bet

[high yew]

anyone own 3 set of the argb p12’s from arctic?

[fossil cedar]

No but what's your question?

[high yew]

mobo only has two 3 pin led headers, just wanna know if the fans have daisy chains or something so they all can be linked up and connected. my aio is holding one of the headers already

[high yew]

^

[fossil cedar]

I'm not sure but if not you can get a rgb splitter or hub

[high yew]

or this one: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B089YT49LL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_B3CZCMM3N7AGEEAEY3X0

[fossil cedar]

That should do ye

[high yew]

sounds good, thank you. i get my fans tomorrow so we’ll see lol

[fossil cedar]

No problem

[ornate condor]

is 980 pro better than sn850 ?🤔

[desert gulch]

They're fairly close

Personally, I'd rather the 850 since it seems to slightly pull ahead in most tests

[analog pulsar]

There's a controller

💀

[ornate condor]

I do have SN850 as boot drive . so don't need to replace lol

[fossil cedar]

Even if you had 980 pro why would you swap lol

[strong raft]

Would be Swapping from a Lambo to a Ferrari.

[ornate condor]

lol idk

[plain pollen]

Hey just looking for advice on my pc problem ?

[little osprey]

Wassup we might be able to help

What’s going wrong with your pc

[plain pollen]

It has been shutting off on its own and then sometimes fires back up right away and sometimes takes an hour or so. It started doing it after trying to launch a game only. When it rebooted it worked fine doing web browsing and opening folders. When it did turn on and when I did try and launch a game, the game was pixelated and the just shut off. I tried switching power cords and they both do the same thing. I know my computer is still getting power because of led shinning when plugged in.

Right now it won’t turn on no matter what I do.

[potent portal]

What specs? Particularly the CPU, GPU, PSU, and motherboard

[plain pollen]

Everything is new.

CPU: Intel Core i9-11900KF Rocket Lake 3.5GHz (5.3GHz Turbo) 8-Core 16-Thread
GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra Gaming 10GB
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix Z590-E Gaming WiFi

PSU: CORSAIR RM850x 850W 80 Plus Gold

[potent portal]

Hmm so the PSU isn't under spec at least, that's a good one.

Have you installed all of your drivers from Asus

[little osprey]

My friend had a problem like that and it was the motherboard shorting causing the problem

[fossil cedar]

can you even get into the bios after it shuts down?

also is it overheating?

[frank stirrup]

daisy chained cable

calling it

[fossil cedar]

what case and cpu cooler do you have

[plain pollen]

I haven’t updated for a bit now. But now it won’t even turn on for me to do that.

[plain pollen]

I don’t believe it’s overheating cause I checked the temps when it was on for the brief time it was

CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i ELITE AIO 280mm

Case: CORSAIR Obsidian Series 500D RGB

[potent portal]

And you can't get into bios?

[frank stirrup]

are u using 3 separate power cables for ur gpu btw

[potent portal]

Or 2 if it only needs 2

[frank stirrup]

3080 ftw3 is 3

[earnest olive]

3 separate power cables isn't really required

[potent portal]

But the type 4 gen 4 cables that come with the RMx are super over spec anyway, I couldn't melt them if I tried

[earnest olive]

it's nice if you can do it, but it's not required

[plain pollen]

Sorry I’m not very knowledgeable in specifics. There is only one cord going from tower to wall if that’s what your asking.

[earnest olive]

nvidia officially says if you have 3x8pin you can daisy chain one without issues

my 3090 had no issues with one daisy chain running at 480w

[desert gulch]

My 5700xt is fully daisy chained and will pull like 300-325 completely fine

[earnest olive]

no shot you're pulling 325w at stock settings lol

[potent portal]

I'd say start stripping parts off until it works. Start with peripherals, only keyboard and mouse plugged in.

[desert gulch]

That was with a couple up here fans taped to it and pl pushed

Stock I'll level off around 210 ish usually

Maybe 225 in some things

[earnest olive]

I bios modded mine to go up to 440 watts but didn't check actual power draw

[desert gulch]

The cooler is great for a 2 fan but just can't handle that much heat sustained

I'll probs repaste it this summer and livestream it

[earnest olive]

strix air cooler handling 550 watts on air is pretty nuts

[potent portal]

Strip it down to the bare minimum required to get to bios after that. No ssd/hdd.
Do you have another GPU for troubleshooting?

[desert gulch]

Sheesh

[earnest olive]

it kinda just sounds like a bad GPU to me

[plain pollen]

No. I mean I have my older pc but I’m not very handy lol.

[earnest olive]

after scrolling up and reading

[potent portal]

Does that older PC have a GPU to swap for testing?

[mossy venture]

That's what i thought from the pixelization

[potent portal]

This is one of those times the F sku is a big F

[earnest olive]

pixelated sounds like it's booting in low res with microsoft basic display adapter

[still roost]

Walri#6540 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dyvC6r

friend wants give or take 1k for a pc

[plain pollen]

It was weird. I would open a high end game and it would just shut off. Then when it booted eventually I opened a different high end game and it went bordered, and then grainy and pixelated and then just shut off.

Now it won’t turn on. If I press the power I can hear the click but nothing. I can hear a click if I hold it longer as well n

[fossil cedar]

do they already have the 3060?

[little osprey]

no

do you suggest something else

they’re gonna stream and do editing

so i figured nvenc and whatever other stuff nvidia has would be useful

[mossy venture]

I'd go 12100f and stronger gpu

Also mx330-g air, silicon power ram, and mp33

[little osprey]

they prefer the look of the p360a

i’ll switch to mp33 and they want black ram too

so i chose the oloy

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9PrXyK

[little osprey]

they said they can afford to spend $100 more for specific things they’d rather have like color preferences

Which makes sense because not everyone wants blue ram

Oh i forgot that grey silicon power ram existed

lmao

Is there a segotep 700w?

[fossil cedar]

yep

its b tier

the 600w is only c tier

[little osprey]

this?

[fossil cedar]

yessir

[little osprey]

Thx

i didn’t even know it was a thing lol

[fossil cedar]

could do this if they wanted the p360a instead yeah https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RQJZwc

actually id do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GBVyKp

if spending a bit over budget

if the fan is too blue for them replace it with an arctic p12

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hg6d9r if gammaxx is too blue

[little osprey]

why not just se224xt then

$10 isn’t gonna be the end of the world

[fossil cedar]

no lga1700 bracket i dont think

[little osprey]

there’s the kit

Might as well because 1. it’s black and they’ll like the color theme and 2. cooling wow 😳

[fossil cedar]

amazon is doing that stupid thing where it blocks me from viewing some items because im not in the us ;-;

@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nBKRv3

i checked the amazon listing

it includes a bracket

[little osprey]

oh you don’t have to buy it separate anymore

W

thanks

[high yew]

got my fans in and connected them all via daisy chains, however the fan daisy chains are 3 pin but the ACTUAL connector the motherboard is for a 4 pin header. im gonna go into bios and change them but would it be voltage or pwm for the speed to set as?

[potent portal]

Voltage

PWM is 4 pin

[high yew]

right, but there's a 4 pin connecting to mobo, but the daisy chains are connected via 3 pin splitters. it's still voltage?

[potent portal]

Still voltage

Even if they were 4 pin fans voltage mode would work. It just might be louder and less precise.

[little osprey]

we're twins 😳

Yo is oem windows key bad?

I can’t show the website obviously but the website is pretty popular so you might recognize it

[fossil cedar]

Nah you're good

[little osprey]

Ok w

[little osprey]

for the average gamer (me) a 12400f is a good pick right

i dont need 10 cores for games

and i've lasted on hexa core no hyperthreading for a while now

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[mossy venture]

whats your budget for the whole build

[obsidian wigeon]

you might wanna consider 5600 tho if it's cheaper than 12400f

[little osprey]

give or take $1500, dont make a list tho because im not buying until july

a friend just keeps asking me what i want so im going to give him an answer

[mossy venture]

12400f 3060 ti very possible

[obsidian wigeon]

^

or 5600

[little osprey]

thats possible rn for $1400

[obsidian wigeon]

any works

as long as it's cheapest

[little osprey]

ye

[obsidian wigeon]

ignore the 5500 cause that's trash

[mossy venture]

how much worse than 12100f is it?

[obsidian wigeon]

half the cache be like

[mossy venture]

and how much isit again?

[obsidian wigeon]

well, it's not worse than 12100f

[little osprey]

5500 sounds trash

[obsidian wigeon]

5600g perf

[mossy venture]

its a 5600g without the igpu

[obsidian wigeon]

cause 19 megs of cache

5500 is around $150 i think

could be wrong

5600 has 199 msrp

[mossy venture]

189 iirc

[obsidian wigeon]

nah

it's actually 199

[mossy venture]

nvm

[obsidian wigeon]

same price as 3600

[mossy venture]

i googled it

alr going for 184 tho https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PgcG3C/amd-ryzen-5-5600-36-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000927box

[little osprey]

is the ventus 3060ti acceptable or nah

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

it's just a 3060ti

[mossy venture]

depends what you mean by acceptable

[little osprey]

im used to high temps, doesnt bother me

[mossy venture]

it works without throttling, sure

[obsidian wigeon]

but i'd recc repaste lol

[little osprey]

what DOes bother me is your nickname

[mossy venture]

but theres much better for similar prices

[little osprey]

why is it missing a parenthesis

[mossy venture]

hmm?

oh

a missclick

[obsidian wigeon]

evga usually has one for good price tbh

just wait for evga drops and stuff

[little osprey]

i havent seen a 3060ti on evga.com yet

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

[mossy venture]

ive seen them for as low as 430

[little osprey]

i check every day

[mossy venture]

lol

[little osprey]

fr?

how have i missed them

[mossy venture]

have i invited you to my gpu drop server?

well not mine

[little osprey]

yes

[mossy venture]

but the one i use?

alr

[little osprey]

i have it muted tho, maybe thats why

ill unmute when im buying tho fs

[obsidian wigeon]

i'd just get 12400f imo

[little osprey]

ye i dont need 12600k

[obsidian wigeon]

it's like 172 rn?

[mossy venture]

12400 cheaper currently

[little osprey]

im not gonna overclock anyways

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[mossy venture]

by like $5

but still cheaper

[little osprey]

i want igpu

for no reason

[obsidian wigeon]

well

then you're gonna have to pay 200

for 12400

[little osprey]

are there any drawbacks to igpu

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

only price

[little osprey]

ur bad

[obsidian wigeon]

otherwise they perform the same

[little osprey]

12400 is cheaper rn lmao 😂

[obsidian wigeon]

wait wut??

demand i guess

[little osprey]

usually igpu is way more expensive

[obsidian wigeon]

12400f is more popular

[mossy venture]

cam ill draft a build list in a minute

[obsidian wigeon]

so sometimes non f one is cheaper

[mossy venture]

just to get a guess for prices

[little osprey]

bet

pcpp is too fun to not make lists

istg

[obsidian wigeon]

pc pp 😳

okay now that's too sus

[mossy venture]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0832KN3RV?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1 currently this is a good price

but its not on pcp for some reason

[little osprey]

Ur a pc pp

Segotep 700w is what i added to mine

is that what the link is

[obsidian wigeon]

ah

[mossy venture]

yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

the classic segotep

[little osprey]

idk why 700w isn’t on pcpp

lol

[obsidian wigeon]

ketchup mustard cables

but good psu

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6x4v3y heres what i got pulled up rq

the heatsink is complete overkill

[little osprey]

I’m booting up my laptop rn

[mossy venture]

and could change the case for mx330-g air with a smaller heatsink

[little osprey]

Or trying to it’s not turning on 💀

[mossy venture]

kinda sounds like a skill issue tbh

[little osprey]

Fr

I think my wall outlets are fricked

which is another skill issue

and my light bulb burned out

ok im in

wtf

ak620

LOL

ill send mine in a sec

[mossy venture]

peerless assassin doesnt show up in pcp for me

[little osprey]

its not registered as 12th gen in pcpp

just save it for last and ignore compatibility filter then add

is 3060ti mining worth doing

because i might want to try making some money back but they're all LHR

[mossy venture]

ive made over 1k from mining on mine

tho it is fhr

[little osprey]

.

[mossy venture]

if you can get a 3060 ti FE youre good

[little osprey]

maybe who knows

i still got a long while

ada might even be out by the time i build 👴🏻

[mossy venture]

not till sep

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T3qyKp

what i was thinking but im getting too far ahead of myself here lmao

[mossy venture]

why that case though

also why 2tb ssd if you already have 6tb hdd

[little osprey]

bc i feel like it

might do 1tb

[mossy venture]

you could get a 3070 instead

[little osprey]

u right

prices drop too

would be ez

hence why i shouldnt be making lists rn

oh wait

most motherboards have two or more m.2 slots

too used to my poopy h370

[buoyant patrol]

What cpu is a good pair for a 3080?

[little osprey]

12600k

and b660 motherboard

unless you’re overclocking cpu, then you’d go for z690. otherwise b660 because you shouldn’t need z690 features on a 12600k

[buoyant patrol]

Ic ic how abt on the am4 platform.

Actually nvm I think I will go 12th gen

[strong raft]

5600(X) is $185ish and non-Ecore 12400 is only $175, although indeed 12600K is a bit faster. Was really nice when newegg had it for $230. Depending on the 600K price, my pick would be 12400 & save the extra $75ish for anything else. Plus, 12400 doesn't "need" Win11.

[buoyant patrol]

Thanks

[frank stirrup]

5800x3d only amd cpu worth it if new mobo as well

[mossy venture]

Anything low 12th gen other than 12100, 5600, 5700x

[mossy venture]

5700x tho

I'd still go 12th gen over 5000 series for upgradability

But 5700x is hot

[tribal crater]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08L4YQJG3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[mossy venture]

What about it

[tribal crater]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09Q8CBSCH?tag=techsitingfam-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

[mossy venture]

It looks like a regular overpriced aio that may or may not be leaky

You will quite literally neve see the rgb on that ssd. Get an mp33 or 970 Evo instead

[tribal crater]

I want to put this ssd where the X or open space is, can I use some sort of adhesive or strips to do that?

[mossy venture]

I wouldnt reccomend it

And I wouldn't reccomend buying that aio either

[tribal crater]

I have the AIO already, and it's amazing, dropped my cards temps from close to 90c down to 55c

[mossy venture]

Card? As in you're using it for your gpu?

[tribal crater]

just looking to fill in that big black space as it's not esthetically pleasing with the rest of my build

[mossy venture]

Also, if you want to fill a space with rgb

Look at rgb strips

[tribal crater]

Yes it's a aio gpu cooler, thought about getting the ssd as I could get a 1TB as my three eagle M2 are only 500GB

[mossy venture]

I eouldnt reccomend essentially taping an ssd to your aio

Get rgb strips for the aio and get an nvme ssd if you have the space

The mp33, p31, or 970 Evo are good choices

[tribal crater]

my space is down to the bottom of the PC and that spot on the aio lol

[mossy venture]

Every mobo has an nvme slot

Have you used one already

[tribal crater]

I have 3 nvme's but their all 500 gb was looking for a tb one to be able to download files over 500gb

[mossy venture]

What file is over 500gb...?

You could replace one of them with a 2tb drive

[tribal crater]

downloading complete show's some of the longer running ones in 1080 or 4k can get over 500,

[mossy venture]

If you're doing 4k video transfer a gen 4 nvme will be your friend

And if you need a lot of storage, either high capacitygen 4s, or hdds

[tribal crater]

thanks

[fossil cedar]

5700x only worth if you have a am4 board atm otherwise go 12600k

[frank stirrup]

i said if new mobo as well

[coral ginkgo]

@wheat coral seeing your build pic was eerie. I have the same case, heatsink, fans and ram. Your build looks just about identical to mine lol

[hollow sail]

Hi guys i need help i am new tp gaming on pc

[fossil cedar]

What's your question?

[hollow sail]

i need a pc

[fossil cedar]

What country and what's your budget?

[hollow sail]

budget is 1k country uk

[fossil cedar]

Prebuilt or wanna build your self? Is it for gaming?

[hollow sail]

build

[fossil cedar]

You wanna build yourself?

[hollow sail]

yes

[fossil cedar]

Do you need wifi?

[hollow sail]

yes

[fossil cedar]

1 sec

[hollow sail]

or prebuilt

[lime jay]

Hey guys, so I'm doing my first pc build tonight. All the build guides I've seen recommend doing a test boot before installing the mobo into the case

How would I do this with an AIO that I was using a fan controller with? Would plugging the pump and a single fan into the mobo be enough to cool it just for a bootup?

[hollow sail]

idk

[earnest olive]

should be fine

you're just seeing if it gets into bios, not trying to run prime95 on it

[lime jay]

Alright cool. Would it be fine to just leave the AIO attached to the mobo for the rest of the build? My case has a fan tray and I'd rather not redo the thermal paste

[hollow sail]

who

[earnest olive]

you don't need thermal paste for the boot test

[lime jay]

AIO has preapplied paste

[earnest olive]

ahhh

[lime jay]

yeaaaahh

[earnest olive]

well yeah you absolutely can it'll just be a little annoying to get it into the case at first lol

[lime jay]

Alright, cool. Thank yoy

This is my first build, I'm a bit nervous lol

[earnest olive]

np good luck bro

word of advice for you that i wish i had for my first build

when you screw in the cooler (aio block in this case)

[fossil cedar]

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-lian-li-lancool-ii-mesh-intel-i5-11400f-rtx-3060-ti-8gb-desktop-pc-for-gaming.html

[earnest olive]

instead of going clockwise/counterclockwise

start by screwing in one screw like 25%

then go diagonal and do 25%

then repeat for the other pair

then do another 50% in the same order

then the final 25%

[hollow sail]

thx

[lime jay]

Yeah, the guides I saw recommended that to make sure the paste is evenly applied

[earnest olive]

i couldn't get the cooler on properly because i was trying to screw on the cooler by doing each one completely

so i couldn't even get the second screw in

was scary cause i thought i was breaking it lol

[lime jay]

Lol

I think the part that's most intimidating to me is making sure everything is plugged in correctly

so many cables lol

[earnest olive]

scariest part of my first build for me was definitely the cooler

i lifted it off because i thought i was approaching it wrong

and some thermal paste dripped off and got into the ram slots

[lime jay]

Oh damn

[earnest olive]

i thought i killed my board right then lol

i got it out with an electric toothbrush soaked in isopropyl alcohol

had to clean that brush very well before actually brushing teeth with it again lol

[lime jay]

I know thermal paste is very thermally conductive, but it doesnt conduct electricity right?

[earnest olive]

some does, most doesn't

[fossil cedar]

Np

[earnest olive]

i was more worried that it would physically prevent the pins from contacting the slot

[lime jay]

Gotcha

[earnest olive]

like, i saw a video where someone externally powered a ram module by taping over the power input pins

it is possible to block some ram pins

[lime jay]

Yeah, I also kinda way overspent on this build lol. I gamed on garbage laptops for years so I wanted something powerful

[earnest olive]

i feel that

as a kid i didn't understand anything about computers just figured if it says i7 and 16gb it's a beast

played overwatch at 1080p 30 fps lowest settings with some lowered render scale

and had to take a break between every match because otherwise it would shut down from gpu hitting 110C

[lime jay]

I had the uh... Misfortune of owning an alienware

[earnest olive]

first thing i did when i built my first pc was install all the old games i played on craptops and just laugh at how well they ran

overwatch went from 1080p30 lowest to 1080p 300 ultra

minecraft went from 30 fps to 1850 fps

[lime jay]

1850 lol

[earnest olive]

blade and soul went from 1080p 45 fps low to 4k 144 fps ultra

it was life changing levels of catharsis

like wow i did not know games could look that good or run that well LOL

[lime jay]

Oh btw, I dont have an electrostatic armband, can I just periodically tap the PSU?

[earnest olive]

yeah i've done 40 builds and never used one of those

i just touch a doorknob every 10 mins if i'm feeling paranoid

[lime jay]

lol, sounds good

[earnest olive]

otherwise it's absolutely fine to just touch a doorknob once before you start building as long as you're not building on carpet

or if i gotta run over carpet to grab a tool just touch it again

[lime jay]

Sounds good

I also dont have any zip ties. Feel like I'm gonna regret that

[earnest olive]

never had any static related issues in 40 builds of barely caring about it

case didn't come with any?

i've only ever had one case that didn't include a single ziptie

[lime jay]

I.... I didnt check

[earnest olive]

they usually do

[lime jay]

It wasnt a cheap case so It probably did

[earnest olive]

check the accessory box/bag that has the screws and stuff

it'll usually have zipties in there

well, i've had $20 cases that included 3 zipties even though they were solid panel cases with no cable management holes to speak of

the only case that had no zip ties was $70

[lime jay]

Mobo also had some cable management stickers as well, probably gonna need those to sort the fans into the fan controller

[earnest olive]

like even this thing included zipties lol

[little osprey]

kenzie moment

[lime jay]

That's a relief lol

[earnest olive]

cameron don't pretend this ain't still look better than your HP pc smh

[obsidian wigeon]

my asus looks better than that

[earnest olive]

lol i'd hope so

that's a relatively midrange prebuilt isn't it

1660 super?

[obsidian wigeon]

3600x+1660s

ya

[earnest olive]

this was a $300 3200g build

[lime jay]

Oh yeah and of course as soon as I buy my card it drops by 100 bucks as soon as it ships

[obsidian wigeon]

fair

[lime jay]

Well thank you for the help. Hopefully everything goes well

[earnest olive]

good luck 🙂

[potent portal]

I feel like that'll be easier with DDR5 with the power being on the module

[earnest olive]

yeah it was ddr5

it was a stick that didn't allow voltage adjustment so they epowered it

[little osprey]

dies

[mossy venture]

god i think i just had a small heart attack

i was asleep and my dad rebooted the circuit or whatever

i tried turning my pc on, lights went on but red lights were on for dram and cpu, had to shut down turn it back on, and windows repaired itself

thought the cpu somehow fried and the gpu was still in tact

which wouldve been very odd

for some reason my boot ssd is running at 100% utilization

could it be related?

or is it just the pc turning on

looks like its coming down now

its probably just everything opening at once becuase of the boot

if it is screwed up, i atleast have an extra ssd in my system i can use for boot

[potent portal]

Getting paranoid? lol

[mossy venture]

doesnt normally sit at high usage when i boot though

[mossy venture]

very

i have put too much into this thing for it to break because of a power surge

i am constantly paranoid about it

[potent portal]

I would be too tbh

[desert gulch]

Surge protector or ups time?

[potent portal]

I'm only less so because I know I can fix it

[mossy venture]

What are ebay sellers fees again btw, if anyone knows?

[potent portal]

It depends but it's roughly 8%

[mossy venture]

Alright

I finally listed the 6800xt to ebay and it sold for 760

So I'll have my money back

[potent portal]

They often have promotions for reduced fees, I try to sell with those

I also pay less because I have a top rated profile

[mossy venture]

Thanks

[plain grove]

I’m installing a water cooler should I had thermal paste or will the pre applied thermal paste be enough?

[potent portal]

Pre applied paste is usually enough. It's only a few degrees difference with the top shelf stuff.

[untold beacon]

You this was a hot deal if it was for $350

[potent portal]

That would be a good deal if you had a Z590 motherboard already, but for a new build I would have gone 12600k for $100 less and better performance.