#building-and-recc-chat

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earnest olive
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goat chewed many hole it now become nzxt h510 flo-t

frank stirrup
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very good case

earnest olive
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yes thank u

frank stirrup
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can i borrow goat to make holes in my case?

earnest olive
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where pato to make list?

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yes but plz return in one day or I will miss goat very much

frank stirrup
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ok i will return

earnest olive
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yes

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pato bad why not come

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don't he know techie is slave

frank stirrup
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i help

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wait

earnest olive
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in fact I want 5 list to compare before decide to ignore all and buy corsairs

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plz and ty

fossil cedar
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i here to help

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sorry bad teckie momen

earnest olive
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good, plz give me some lists to ignore now slave

frank stirrup
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take

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very good

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@earnest olive

earnest olive
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hmm

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it good but not enough RGB, can fix plz?

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goat will be scare

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did you saw the corsair rgb gt 710? is it good? it have more rgb

earnest olive
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thank

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goat is approve

fossil cedar
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and lots of wam

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and 2060 super good

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corsair ram also good

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980 pro fast

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for small amount of just under 50k

earnest olive
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hmm my budget 0.26 azerbaijani manat it is enough?

gritty rover
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Shout out to my dude over there at geek squad,

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This thing has stopped being a little brat

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BUT I WAS ANGRY BECAUSE THE DUDE AT GEEK SQUAD UNPLUGGED THE CPU

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And for an hour I was wondering “why is the display port not working”

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Oh yea I know my cable management is bad but I’m just now starting my set up and I don’t know how to work it, if you guys have any advice on how I should put the cords that’d be nice

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Should I use zip ties?

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It’s like a jungle

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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thanks I did it and they send me free 12900KS

gritty rover
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Stonkkkssss

fossil cedar
gritty rover
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😭

fossil cedar
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you need 64 for fortnite stonks1

earnest olive
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I will review feeding it to goat

frank stirrup
gritty rover
earnest olive
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goat like it. want more. Intel plz send. the goat hungers.

fossil cedar
gritty rover
gritty rover
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That’s like… mega stonks

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How much do you need to make a minecraft server

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😨

fossil cedar
gritty rover
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💀

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Not even nasa’s is good enough

frank stirrup
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this enough rgb to light up entire cd

fossil cedar
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motherboard not good enough

gritty rover
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That’s enough light to make me seizure

rotund zealot
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You need the ql120s man

gritty rover
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Get a case with rgb

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And rgb harddrives

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Rgb power supply

rotund zealot
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5000T

gritty rover
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Rgb cpu

rotund zealot
gritty rover
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I rate it a 5/10 rgb

gritty rover
frank stirrup
rotund zealot
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No but

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Have you seen qls

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
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lol

rotund zealot
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WAIT

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Those thermal take ones

rotund zealot
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Quad right or whatevrr

earnest olive
gritty rover
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You need flare rgb

rotund zealot
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Also

gritty rover
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Strob light rgb

rotund zealot
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X570 crossair extreme

fossil cedar
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mine so much better

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16 monitors

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270hz nachostonk

gritty rover
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Need rgb on monitor too

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Are they 8k

fossil cedar
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no 1440p

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but 270hz

gritty rover
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Poggin

fossil cedar
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zooom

rotund zealot
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240p 3200hz monitor?

gritty rover
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Interesting

frank stirrup
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I added 16 rgb flood lights

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and more firework psu

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and many monitor for 8k gaming

rotund zealot
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Sir you forgot the rgb mousepad

frank stirrup
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i put video game for ur goats as well

fossil cedar
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putting goat sym in is cheating reeeeeeeeeee

frank stirrup
earnest olive
earnest olive
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bro I'm at a fancy italian winery and I don't drink

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🗿

frank stirrup
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have a few sips lad

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italian wine is

earnest olive
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I tried it and spit it out

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tastes absolutely vile

frank stirrup
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red or white?

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because red wine is gross

earnest olive
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white

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makes me think of isopropyl alcohol lol

frank stirrup
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bro what trash wine u drink

earnest olive
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I don't drink

frank stirrup
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nah like what trash wine was that

earnest olive
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idk everyone else says it's good LOL

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that was my first taste of any alcoholic drink ever

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I don't want a second taste

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they gave us some good pasta to go with it though so I'm just eating that lol

frank stirrup
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why did u never have alcohol before dis btw

earnest olive
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dm

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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fruity white wines are goated

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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whats wrong with beer

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not much alcohol

fossil cedar
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🤮

frank stirrup
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and very tasty

rotund zealot
fossil cedar
rotund zealot
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I've never had it lol

jagged ember
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beer is fine

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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oh no

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im devastated

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how am i gonna recover

fossil cedar
rotund zealot
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And liked non of it

jagged ember
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but you haven't had cocktails or ciders

still roostBOT
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Subject989#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

ripe halo
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Why

fossil cedar
ripe halo
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Talking about alcohol consumption and why its bad but can't curse

jagged ember
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yeah

fossil cedar
ripe halo
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I understand that

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Don't care

frank stirrup
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just like overdoing anything is bad

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in moderation its alright

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just like most things

mossy venture
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for example

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feeding a cpu 2volts but only once every few days is fine

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(this is a joke, please dont do this)

frank stirrup
mossy venture
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omw to eat ur cpu

frank stirrup
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degraded 3600x

mossy venture
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ill trade you my 3600

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thats a terrible bin

fossil cedar
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wow we are all twinsies

mossy venture
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indeed

fossil cedar
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bad 3600's highfive

mossy venture
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pato we have twin 3600 3060 ti builds atm

fossil cedar
mossy venture
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my 3600 loses to a 7700k in single core

frank stirrup
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pato did u hear racca was a genshin simp for a while

fossil cedar
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have you ram oc'd yet?

mossy venture
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ive never touched genshin

mossy venture
frank stirrup
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he had changed nickname to guacca

frank stirrup
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cinebench more like cinedumdum

mossy venture
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my 3600 also loses to a 9600k in multi core

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not sure if thats normal

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by a decent bit too

frank stirrup
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use ctr by 1usmus

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what could go wrong

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/s

mossy venture
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?

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whats ctr

frank stirrup
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dms

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so i can swear

mossy venture
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k

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rawr

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im now a you simp

fossil cedar
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are you sure

mossy venture
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ye

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by like 65 pts iirc

fossil cedar
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9600 has no ht 💀

mossy venture
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i could be remembering wrong

fossil cedar
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must be

mossy venture
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i got 1231 single core

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i dont rmember the mc

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smthn in the low 9000s

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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i simp rawr

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he seems cool

mossy venture
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fair

frank stirrup
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i know pato simps rawr too

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especially on tuesdays

mossy venture
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i think multi core was in the 9200s

frank stirrup
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rawr is just a very nice and hot guy

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many simps

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anyway

fossil cedar
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hmm

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seems legit

little osprey
brittle copper
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So uh

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What’s happening guys

iron dragon
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anything i should changes

little osprey
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nice aio weggChefKiss

grim wraith
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Why is it so difficult to sell a PC right now? lol

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You’d think more people would want one at a decent price

ornate condor
mossy venture
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also i wouldnt buy that aio

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or the ssd

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the p2 one anyways

ornate condor
mossy venture
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liquid freezer ii 280 is a good choice

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280 or 360 if it fits in your case

ornate condor
mossy venture
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i also wouldnt have gone with that mobo for a 12600k

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i woulda spent 20 more for an msi b660-a or asus b660 prime

ornate condor
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I'm not huge fan of Overclocking so I thought any mobo should be ok lol

mossy venture
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its not terrible

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but the features gained from 20 more is worth it

ornate condor
mossy venture
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eh

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if you care for rgb

ornate condor
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Not on that build lol

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I have highend build at gameplace that I care about aesthetic but this one is my gaming build so not caring much about aesthetic PepeBean FedoraTip

potent portal
south cliff
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I cant find any lga 1700 adapters for my kraken x73

junior crescent
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Is the 12600 worth it performance wise over a 12400f

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12400f is 270 AUD and 12600 is 340 AUD

mossy venture
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not unless its a 12600k

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or kf

junior crescent
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So i should stick with the 12400f

mossy venture
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yes

desert gulch
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12600 non k is a useless cpu

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There's literally no point ever to get it unless it's somehow cheaper than a 12400(f)

junior crescent
latent sandal
fossil cedar
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do you already have that stuff

latent sandal
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its in stock in a computer store near my place

fossil cedar
latent sandal
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yea

fossil cedar
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no point using us pc part picker

latent sandal
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im from singapore

fossil cedar
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ahhh

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i cant really help you too much then because idk what your alternatives are

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you should manually put in the prices even in local currency .... what are your other options for power supply.... cooler.... ram depending on price... gpus and SSD's - I would look for something like team mp33 1tb instead of a 500gb 970 evo plus

latent sandal
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oh ok

fossil cedar
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for cooler something like a gammax 400 or something is plenty

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no need for an aio

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also personally would go with a diff case but guessing you want that because its small

potent portal
# desert gulch 12600 non k is a useless cpu

False, the UHD 770 iGPU is better than the 12400 (UHD 730) which makes it better in the short term and long term.
Intel dGPUs will be able to synergize with the iGPU for increased performance.

The 12600f on the other hand... now that would be useless. If it existed.

fossil cedar
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yep it does

potent portal
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Sure but a $20 difference. Personally I'd take a 12600 over a bad bin 12600 aka 12500

fossil cedar
potent portal
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True

desert gulch
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If you really needed the igp you may as well save a ton of money and get a 5600g

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Yeah it has worse CPU perf but whatever

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Igp users won't really care for that

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Plus who be buying a Intel dgpu?

potent portal
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Define "a ton of money" because I see a $10 difference to the 12500

fossil cedar
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yeah price isnt really a factor

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i guess you could save a bit on the mobo

potent portal
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And it's more of a "use it until I get a dGPU" thing, then if you do get the Intel dGPU you can boost it. Their top model by most accounts falls around the 3070, so with the synergy thing maybe get it close to 3080

fossil cedar
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imo for igpu either 12400 non f or 12600k on intel no point going 12500/600 non k imo since price is so close and 5600g if theyre not going to be adding a gpu

ornate condor
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12600k is great cpu

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I pairing it with 3080 now PepeBean

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It's much better than my old 10700k

potent portal
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Sure the K is, but the non-K that's missing the E-cores is weggCringe

earnest olive
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at least you get higher ring clock

strong raft
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I'd take even 12400 over the 10700/11700, but selling z590 mobo wasn't quick/ez 😅. 11700F is still a huge upgrade for me.

earnest olive
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but yeah it bothers me that 12600 and 12600K have a different core config

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sets a weird precedent when K used to only mean overclockable

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inb4 we start seeing cursed F cpus with lower cores

glacial umbra
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what's msrp on non-fe 3070 ti?

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like

strong raft
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Yeah & then like the 12700F/k/kf where F on it specifically just means no igpu

glacial umbra
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is 699 usd decent?

potent portal
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Yeah that's not bad

glacial umbra
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alright

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I'm gonna try and sell my 3060 ti and upgrade

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since my original plan was for a 3070 ti

strong raft
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That's decent for FE also btw. I suggest 3070 or 3080. 3070 ti isn't that great

glacial umbra
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it's uhhh 3 fan Asus tuf

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this one

potent portal
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Not bad at all

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Is that on Newegg?

glacial umbra
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canadacomputers

potent portal
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Oh so it's in cad even? That's a great price

glacial umbra
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879 cad yeah

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canadacomputers has been restocking gpus quite a bit

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and they've lowered prices quite a bit for most gpus

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glad things are finally getting closer to normal

fossil cedar
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yeah thats alright…. If you find a 3070 cheaper tho grab it instead unless its msi ventus

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i hate this ipad keep tapping enter instead of delete ree

frank stirrup
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skill issue

strong raft
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Yea 3070 ti isn't all that great, and that warm gddr6x on it. Depending on price VS 70/80 of course.

potent portal
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It's not that hot really. GDDR6X is usually hot only if you have a 3080 or higher, especially the 3090 with it being double sided and needing a good backplate.

frank stirrup
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3090ti nice in regards to dat

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all vram on one side

potent portal
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Yeah that extra density letting it do dat

frank stirrup
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2gig chips instead of 1 gig ones

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me likey

strong raft
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Oh that's good then.

earnest olive
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if not mining it was never really an issue

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except for like, rev 1 gigabyte cards

potent portal
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They have a cheap flimsy aluminum heatsink that barely cools the gpu. The ventus 3x 3070 is really hot and the 2x actually throttles.

fossil cedar
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Just msi ventus - mech is what they call it on amd

earnest olive
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ventus is synonymous with hating yourself

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I had to undervolt a 2070 super ventus to like 60% power to make it stop thermal throttling

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it would thermal throttle so hard at stock

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they put a cooler barely suitable for a 1050ti on a 2070 super

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my laptop has a beefier cooler than ventus cards

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ventus should be renamed vomitus

little osprey
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🅱️entus

ornate condor
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my brother bought rog strix 3060ti and when I check cpu-z I see memory vendor is Hynix instead of samsung 🤔

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is that normal lol

stoic island
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Ye, memory vendor shouldn't really matter for gddr6

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Hynix is still good

ornate condor
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I thought all nvidia chips coming from samsung lol

fossil cedar
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Nope only g6x

ornate condor
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oh

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so gddr6 have several vendor but samsung is only gddr6x maker on market

fossil cedar
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yup

stoic island
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Samsung and micron both make gddr6x iirc

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Don't think hynix does g6x though

ornate condor
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is samsung mem better than hynix ? lol couse I see lots of bad reviews about hynix mems on internet right now lol

stoic island
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Hynix ram or vram

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Pretty different

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And well, depends

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As a side note, hynix is currently better than Samsung at ddr5,

mossy venture
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hello people 😁

ornate condor
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oh I think they talking about rams lol

stoic island
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Gddr6 wise, I think Samsung might be better? But doesn't matter for running at stock

fossil cedar
stoic island
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ornate condor
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weird stuff lol

fossil cedar
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oop

stoic island
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Hello

fossil cedar
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im tripping

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is it micron only?

stoic island
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Looks like it

ornate condor
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I guess some miners complaining about hynix mems lol

stoic island
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Rule #3

ornate condor
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couse they can't oc it as well as samsung

stoic island
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There's better places for selling anyways

velvet abyss
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i need a good place to advertise it

stoic island
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r/hws is good, Facebook marketplace is good

fossil cedar
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Also youre charging wayy to much for it

ornate condor
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also looking for decent 240mm aio for top mounting 🤔

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oh maybe 280mm tho . didn't check if my case supports 280mm on top but its thick so I guess it will

fossil cedar
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280 or 360 if it fits

ornate condor
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360 not gonna fit

fossil cedar
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arctic liquid freezer

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go 280 if you can

ornate condor
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I dont want to tear it down to front mounting lol just wanna mount it to top

mossy venture
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can anyone review?

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budget build

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🙃

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
mossy venture
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$1000

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ish

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aud

ornate condor
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I see tbh I would go for 12400F if price is not high there

mossy venture
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it is overpriced down under

fossil cedar
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Okey 1 sec

mossy venture
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I'm just doing some final peer check before i buy

ornate condor
stoic island
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Pato prob working on it already, but would swap to 12100 and would try to fit 3060

stoic island
ornate condor
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yeah 3060 is much better but price difference can be high in different countries

stoic island
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500aud for that 3050, 580 for a 3060 on pcpp, pcpp might be lying again but well

ornate condor
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i think 3060 worth for extra 80bucks

mossy venture
stoic island
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What exactly?

mossy venture
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lemme check

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hx750w pro series

ornate condor
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btw I already have 12900k but 12900KS is really tempting lol

stoic island
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Hx will do fine

fossil cedar
mossy venture
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ye

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no ethernet in my room

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will 3060 do well with the cpu i got?

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ah nvm

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out of stock

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stfu crypto miners

ornate condor
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lol

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shortage is about to end actually

mossy venture
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ooh

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how long ish?

ornate condor
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theres plenty much gpus in stock in US and prices falling as well

mossy venture
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yeah but not in aus

ornate condor
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maybe soon lol

mossy venture
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maybe fingers crossed

mossy venture
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but my bday is coming up so i kinda want the pc ordered asap

fossil cedar
mossy venture
fossil cedar
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np

ornate condor
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nice case tho

mossy venture
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don't need psu

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i have a pau

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psu

fossil cedar
mossy venture
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yeah

fossil cedar
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yeah you can use that then

ornate condor
mossy venture
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that ram is sketch ngl

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hmm

fossil cedar
ornate condor
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lol

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
# ornate condor lol

it does…. Evga queue is still only way to buy from them in eu and still closed

ornate condor
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I wonder is upgrading from 12900K to 12900KS worth it ? lol

fossil cedar
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lool nooo

ornate condor
fossil cedar
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ye

fossil cedar
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and no b stock drops either

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mhm

mossy venture
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i don't want to oc

ornate condor
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lol got 12900K but idk 12900KS is so tempting

mossy venture
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wdym by 3 more

fossil cedar
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dollars

mossy venture
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oh lmao

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ye I'll get basillistix

fossil cedar
ornate condor
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5.5ghz hmm worlds fastest gaming cpu lol

mossy venture
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so stick with gpu that i had before or not?

fossil cedar
mossy venture
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why

ornate condor
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I'm not sure about there but in us its wroth to hold for just a little more for gpu couse prices falling down

mossy venture
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it's a small price diff

fossil cedar
ornate condor
fossil cedar
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exactly

ornate condor
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but drawing over 300w F_key

mossy venture
ornate condor
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I dont think 3050 need 3fan lol

fossil cedar
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it doesn’t

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spending more than the cheapest 3050 makes no sense

mossy venture
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ok... :(

ornate condor
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good thing is it have E cores which is equalising general power usage lol

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it eats power as crazy under load lol

scenic turret
mossy venture
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oh and I wanna stick with the nzxt h510

ornate condor
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sad thing is theres no any new white strix cards hmm no 3080ti , 3080 12gb , and 3090tie tho

mossy venture
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flow

ornate condor
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no vision either hmm

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at least vision have 3080ti

mossy venture
ornate condor
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why is gigabyte eagle cards are so ugly lol

mossy venture
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ikr

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i want the old triple fan one

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anyway

ornate condor
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I see its 30bucks more

mossy venture
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will it perform the same as the triple fan one?

mossy venture
mossy venture
mossy venture
ornate condor
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tbh I dont like gigabyte cooling in general lol

mossy venture
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wait

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hold up

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war pig was right

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it is $60 more

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the eagle is $60 more

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i'm going with triple fan

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it's CHEAPER to go triple fan

ornate condor
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lol cheaper = better KEKW

mossy venture
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so pato, ty for ssd and motherboard

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and war pig ty for memes

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ok

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imma buy

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aww no embeds

ornate condor
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lol enjoy your buy

mossy venture
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ty buy man

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bye

fast dirge
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If my PC won't boot after installing a new CPU and I've checked the ram, the fan is working, the old CPU works and I'm 99% sure it's compatible, is it likely my bios that needs to be updated?

south cliff
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Ok so I am buying a new mobo and I was wondering if the gigabyte z690 aero is any different from the aurorus z690 elite other than looks?

obsidian wigeon
south cliff
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Is there any difference between the gigabyte z690 aero and the arous z699 elite?

obsidian wigeon
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Hm, there doesn't seem to be much difference between the two

earnest olive
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@mossy venture triple fan is not automatically better

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there are plenty of examples of poorly designed triple fan cards losing to well designed dual fan cards on the same GPU

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for example, sapphire pulse 5700xt (2 fan) > gigabyte gaming 5700xt (3 fan) > asus rog strix 5700xt rev 1 (3 fan)

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manufacturers know triple fan looks good, but the rest of the cooler design is honestly more important

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also, investigate the price of i3-12100, it's honestly a better buy than i5-10400 for gaming nowadays if you're on a budget

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it looks like you're planning to use the i5-10400 stock cooler; the i3-12100f also comes with a far superior stock cooler

fast dirge
obsidian wigeon
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Ah, I was suspecting that too

earnest olive
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nice, you got the xeon?

mossy venture
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ok

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ty orange

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but

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the other one i'm willing to pay fkr

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for

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looks way better

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and triple fan is better airflow 😁

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btw that b660 is stuck on red i kinda don't wanna use it

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so I'm using the older one

obsidian wigeon
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triple fan doesn't automatically mean better airflow either

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It all blends down to cooler design as a whole

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Not fan count

mossy venture
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ight

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I'll use the eagle

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and the cpu

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BUT

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i need a better wifi motherboard

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cos that one is UGLY

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max $200aud

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SNAGGED ONE

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winner winner chicken dinner

humble fossil
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hi

jagged trail
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oops

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wrong thi g

humble fossil
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Are Manufacturer
Gigabyte
Part #
B550M AORUS PRO-P
Socket / CPU
AM4
Form Factor
Micro ATX
Chipset
AMD B550. Good with Ryzen 5 5600x?

potent portal
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Yes

humble fossil
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for a friend

humble fossil
potent portal
#

Probably not but I think it has flashback anyway

humble fossil
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ok

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Thx

potent portal
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Yeah it does. You can update without a CPU.

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I'd get the 5600 instead of the 5600X btw, or whichever is cheaper

humble fossil
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I think they are about the same price now

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5600g

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and 5600x

potent portal
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No not the G, just 5600

jagged trail
humble fossil
#

oh

potent portal
humble fossil
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A difference of about $70

jagged trail
#

not worth

potent portal
#

Whichever is cheaper, they're basically the same and you can even overclock to close the gap completely

humble fossil
#

what do you have cpu - gpu?

potent portal
#

Mine? 5800X and 3080 ti

humble fossil
#

i have to go sorry

potent portal
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No worries

analog pulsar
strong raft
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5600g/x better

potent portal
#

At that price range I'd almost consider a Pentium Gold G7400. Better single core, newer platform.

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12100 is obviously better if possible

strong raft
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G7400 is the 2c/4T huh, surprisingly good in games tbh. Read a review a while back.

potent portal
#

Yeah, it would get the job done and allow for an upgrade later

analog pulsar
#

but they might get another build from a friend

potent portal
#

Yeah best bet at that budget is used. Or at least as many salvaged parts from other computers as possible.

jagged trail
fast dirge
#

Can I ask about is USB port issues here?

little osprey
#

No you can’t

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That’s not allowed

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!ask

still roostBOT
little osprey
fast dirge
#

(sorry for length) Generally I would describe it as them working and not working with no seeming pattern - I have to have things plugged into certain ports, and have to keep switching them around because they randomly stop working. One example was plugging a Bluetooth receiver in the back stops my keyboard/mouse receiver in the front. Even after taking the Bluetooth out I have to unplug the keyboard thing, then into a USB hub I have (plugged into the same BUS) then I can put it back where it was originally and it will work. My wifi works at different speeds in different ports. I have tried so many combinations and ways of setting it up but I don't know what else to do or where what to replace to fix it. Ultimately I just want audio out of my Bluetooth headset that doesn't skip...

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This is a Dell refurb, I had similar issues with another Dell refurb I had recently - I don't know enough about computers to know or troubleshoot if it's the actual USB bus (or whatever it's called), so I'm trying to find an answer here 😊

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(the Bluetooth audio I know could be because of my wifi and other things - I am replacing my wifi adapter anyway to hopefully rule that out)

potent portal
fast dirge
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CPU is xeon e5-1650

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Motherboard is Dell 08HPGT w/Sandy bridge-E r.07 chipset (?)

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Bios is ver. A18, which I installed today

teal hazel
#

Hello I recently swapped my gpu in my pc however after swapping it I found that my system changed its boot disk to an older drive that originally was the boot disk. I tried disconnecting this disk resetting the cmos and obviously made sure to change the boot drive in the bios. My system still refuses to boot on my other drive can anyone help me?

dim moon
#

This is my first build my budget is around $2,500 , can anyone help me with recommendations or even changes that you would make to make the pc build even better i really would appreciate the help im stressing over the parts lol im just ready to click ORDER already so if anyone can help please

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Feel free to tag me or pm me

autumn wolf
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@dim moon

case: corsair 4000d airflow or a phanteks case like a p400a or something.

fans: arctic p12 or p14 unless you want rgb then probably a different brand because corsair fans cost a lot for their rgb stuff

cooler: arctic liquid freezer ii unless you want rgb then me personally i dont know how well that cooler master one performs

im not sure how good that psu is, refer to the psu tier list or if someone else is online ask to see if that one is alright to use.

the storage is decent but you could probably save some money or find something better at the same price or cheaper

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also for a side note for future reference, for rgb components, when selecting them, make sure that they are compatible because having multiple different rgb products can cause some hassle such as with your list of having corsair fans and a cooler master aio and then msi case with rgb fans

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the corsair fans take their own rgb hub/headers and its own software while the cooler master and msi may be universal* and might work within each others softwares but thats a lot of cables to deal with also

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also remove the windows 10 from your list as windows 10 is free from their own website, you would just have to activate it with a product key

frank stirrup
#

a 3080/ti should be possible in 2.5k usd

autumn wolf
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if you need more help/suggestions from more people, try asking again somewhere between like 11am~5pm pst

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more people are on during the day

frank stirrup
desert gulch
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not much perf youll gain over a typical 12700f

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esp for price

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you can save by going cheaper cooler, mobo, and cpu

frank stirrup
#

igpu tho

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very nice

desert gulch
#

they already have a 3080ti

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so idk man

frank stirrup
#

its very helpful with troubleshooting tho lol

dim moon
#

I have the slightest idea when it comes to building a pc my guy

desert gulch
dim moon
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I just went to pc part picker picked some stuff

frank stirrup
#

also z690 boards do be compatible with 13th gen when it comes out

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so he can upgrade later

desert gulch
#

who would upgrade to 13th gen tho

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tbf

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
#

lol

desert gulch
frank stirrup
#

I wouldnt really do dat

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p5 is great

desert gulch
#

kc2500 better

dim moon
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If anyone had any builds around 25-2600 for streaming and gaming , id rather have someone with experience like you guys then myself piecing it together

desert gulch
#

why would you pay more for a worse drive

dim moon
#

$2500-$2600 for complete build list

desert gulch
#

there isnt testing on the 2tb but its the same idea

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by tomshardware

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other reviewers have it

frank stirrup
#

before coming at me

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lmfao

dim moon
#

Lol im just looking for help guys

frank stirrup
desert gulch
#

...

frank stirrup
#

most people arent comfortable with ebay tho lol

desert gulch
#

same could be said with newegg

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esp nowadays

frank stirrup
#

ehhhhhhhhhhhh

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not rteally

desert gulch
#

im not saying its justified

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but gn vid got so many views

frank stirrup
#

anyway if u wanna help make a list instead of arguing

desert gulch
#

you know tons of people are gonna think shallow

desert gulch
#

L

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list looks alright

frank stirrup
#

I know

desert gulch
#

do they want the nvidia features?

frank stirrup
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i made it

desert gulch
#

if not, they could go 6900xtxh

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if they wanted more raw gaming perf

frank stirrup
desert gulch
#

ah ok then

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yeah

dim moon
#

Streaming + Gaming

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Ill paste the build you gave me again later today see what everyone else opinions, after that ill begin my order

desert gulch
frank stirrup
#

spr-x?

desert gulch
#

sapphire rapids x

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12th gen

#

same thing

frank stirrup
#

no not same reeeeee

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bad

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jus say 12th gen

desert gulch
#

but i had SPR-X hotkeyed

frank stirrup
#

its top 3

desert gulch
#

so im lazy

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is the coldplate shaped well for thicc 12th gen tho?

frank stirrup
#

galahad ek and lf2

desert gulch
#

or does it need washer mod?

frank stirrup
#

nope

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its great stock

desert gulch
#

ah ok

frank stirrup
#

only old used /lapped coolers need washer no?

desert gulch
#

idk ive only done mid tier lga1700 builds so far

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12700f is highest ive gone

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havent even thrown an aio on any yet

potent portal
desert gulch
#

only 224xt, ak620, and a couple other air coolers

frank stirrup
desert gulch
#

there possibly may be a noctua there

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i dont shill noctua tho

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client just wanted one so i kinda complied lol

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i def didnt literally pay $70 for a u12s that probably performs like a 224xt

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@frank stirrup this is a little sus

frank stirrup
#

ur sus

desert gulch
#

it seems like the 280 beats the 360 on a 12900k

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lf2

frank stirrup
#

thats

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hard to believe

desert gulch
#

surface area ig

frank stirrup
#

360 still has a lil more

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surface area

desert gulch
#

hmm

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but then again, 140mm fan moves more air

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but is it enough when it has one less fan?

#

this is interesting

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im looking thru a bunch of independent reviewers and it seems to say the same thing

frank stirrup
#

360mm rad size
398 x 120 x 38 mm

280mm rad size
317 mm x 138 mm x 38 mm

desert gulch
#

yeah

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so gn has their 360 barely beating 280

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but other ppl have 280 beating 360

frank stirrup
#

they could be within margin

desert gulch
#

gn's def is

frank stirrup
#

but i find it very sus that 280 beating 360

desert gulch
#

but others arent as much

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illl link the vids

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theyre not super credible sources

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but the amount of them adds a little credibility

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its kinda sus cause on here, the 280 did quite a bit better

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like almost beyond margin of error

restive halo
#

Anyone have a few minutes for couple questions?

formal girder
#

Go ahead and ask your questions

restive halo
#
  1. Is this PSU good enough for this build?
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  1. How would I go about flashing the bios without another cpu?
restive halo
formal girder
#

Alright give me a moment and I'll try to change a few things on your list if you haven't paid for anything yet and try to do better

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Also what is your budget

fossil cedar
#

because i would swap out basically every part

formal girder
restive halo
#

So the guy bought all of the parts accept the PSU. He just wants me to build it. I'm just grabbing a PSU that I can get before Wednesday.

fossil cedar
#

ohh and whats your use case

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ahh same.....

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thats a pretty bad selection

restive halo
#

He is gaming

fossil cedar
#

youre in the US yeah?

restive halo
#

Yes

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I told him the same thing

earnest olive
#

I've seen worse

fossil cedar
#

yeah ik just VERY unoptimal

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i hope they didnt pay 180$ for 3200c16 ballistix 32gb

earnest olive
#

there's only one optimal list

fossil cedar
#

and what is that wise one

earnest olive
#

this one

fossil cedar
#

lol

earnest olive
#

ugh the embed update

fossil cedar
#

cant argue with that

earnest olive
#

it was funnier when the embed just said intel

restive halo
#

That psu is better then the corsair?

fossil cedar
#

just as good and cheaper

earnest olive
#

no, but the one you picked is overkill

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

throwing money in water

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

and also corsair tends to not be the best value

restive halo
#

Only reason I ask I'd the corsair will be here quicker

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Ok I'll grab the one you listed

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Also the motherboard being flashed

earnest olive
fossil cedar
#

well yeah but ehh

#

small diff

#

big money savings

earnest olive
#

it's not a meaningful difference, I am agreeing with you

fossil cedar
#

ye

earnest olive
#

just answering his question fully

restive halo
#

I appreciate it

earnest olive
#

650 rmx kind of doesn't have a reason to exist

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

paying that much for 650w just doesn't make any sense

fossil cedar
#

when its on sale its fine but normal price is icky

earnest olive
#

does it? my b550 steel legend surprisingly doesn't have bios flashback

restive halo
#

Oh ok

earnest olive
#

luckily it came 5000 ready out of the box, I had a spare 3600x on hand though

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

nope it doesn't

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well, there's a 99.999% chance that it's 5000 ready out of the box, considering how old zen 3 is by now

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but worst case you can pull your 3700x and use that to update

restive halo
#

I appreciate all the help. Usually I do the list and the have them buy the parts. But he heard through a mutual friend I could build so he just bought all the parts.

fossil cedar
#

uhh it doesnt

earnest olive
#

asrock doesn't seem to think bios flashback is a feature worth adding

fossil cedar
#

well it should be ready by now so just pray - if not return for a different board

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also ugggh wtf asrock

fossil cedar
restive halo
fossil cedar
#

thats pretty fast tbh

restive halo
#

I literally just finished a build and have 3 more to do.

formal girder
#

Me waiting for 13th gen to upgrade the CPU and use bios flashback for 5 more fps

restive halo
fossil cedar
formal girder
#

But I paid for button

#

On board

fossil cedar
#

Lol well if you do an oopsie you will be safe 😛

formal girder
#

Yeah lol

latent sandal
#

hi guys

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what air cooler should i get for i5 12400f

obsidian wigeon
#

gammaxx 400 should do

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if it has lga 1700 bracket

civic tusk
#

Can get one from deepcool for it if not

#

Kinda annoying tbh lga1700 has been out for a good while now and still coolers don't ship with mounting hardware

obsidian wigeon
#

ya

civic tusk
#

Had the same thing happen to me this week with a pure rock 2 for a build for someone

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Even after be quiet saying that all coolers will be shipping with the mounting hardware now

earnest olive
#

zen 3 is OLD

#

the amount of bad luck you'd need to get NOS from that long ago...

ornate condor
#

My asus LC360 aio had included lga1700 mounting kit even I bought it 2 months before 12th gen launched PepeBean FedoraTip

mellow oasis
little osprey
#

That’s a sick pc build bro

thin cloak
#

Hi

tardy knoll
#

Can anyone help me properly choose a good surge protector/back ups option for my PC build?

potent portal
#

Are you just looking for surge protection or UPS power supply?

tardy knoll
#

Both

desert gulch
#

Surge protection can be as simple as a good power strip

potent portal
#

Amazon Basics has a halfway decent UPS

tardy knoll
#

This is what I got, but it's already thrown an error code a week into owning it. So I was gonna return it and possibly get the next size up just to have it. As the PSU I got to replace the one that came in my prebuilt that went bad is quite a bit bigger than this build needs (thinking ahead to future upgrades/builds). So I'm still kinda undersized for the PSU's potential. Though per my build specs I should be around 430w under max load

visual notch
tardy knoll
#

Where I'm getting messed up is people telling me I want pure sine wave. Which that appears significantly more expensive to buy a back ups that has pure sine wave while on the back up.

tardy knoll
potent portal
#

The size of UPS you need depends on the expected load and how long you need it to run for. Most of the time you can get away with a lower rated one because your goal is to gracefully shut down the PC in case of power interruption.

tardy knoll
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Yea. This guy in robeytech blew me out because I have a 850w PSU and the UPS says 600w... But my build under full load should even break 450w... I'd think it's about actual consumption not ratings

Going any bigger will just get me more run time, or have me better prepared for a future build

potent portal
#

How long do you need it to run for, though?

desert gulch
#

Keep in mind power efficiency of PSU too

tardy knoll
#

It's mainly this pure sign wave stuff. I'd think it's not that important to have it on battery back up unless I expect to use the PC for more than a few minutes which I don't.

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Enough time to save my work, let QuickBooks backup to cloud etc and shut down really.

desert gulch
#

So even if your build after the power is in DC takes 400 watts, you'll still see a higher draw at the outlet

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Just a little thing to keep in mind

potent portal
#

You can totally use a lower rated unit then, as long as it gives you that nice clean sine wave

tardy knoll
#

Ohh that's true. It has to draw higher wattage to successfully get the desired amount to the PC consistently. Good point.

tardy knoll
potent portal
#

Yeah, you don't really need a UPS for this even. There's much cheaper things that will clean up the power.

tardy knoll
#

If I got that right then I'll just get the bigger option and not stress it. If my PC ever got ruined it would fall under their warranty of up to 150k coverage. I'd get full retail costs of the damaged parts

tardy knoll
#

The short video I watched said the power lines basically send in a pure sine wave. Then some battery back ups have to use a stepped sine wave to copy that during a power outage.

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I'm just trying not to have anything someone is gonna tell me isn't proper. It does say that stepped sign wave can make sensitive electronics glitchy... At the same time going off just the info apc gives with their products my device should be safe 🤷🤦😭

potent portal
#

The short version of the concept is that by taking the wall AC input, converting it to DC, and then back to AC, you get much more stable voltage

#

You don't need a big battery for this

tardy knoll
#

That's what the PSU does though

potent portal
#

No, the PSU takes AC and converts it to DC

#

BUT

#

If the input voltage is unstable so is the output (to a degree)

desert gulch
#

depends on the psu aswell

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some cant handle ripple well

potent portal
#

Well built power supplies will be able to better compensate yes

tardy knoll
#

The input and output has matched whenever I've checked it

#

I have this

potent portal
#

Where are you measuring this?

tardy knoll
#

Way more than my build needs.

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Also tells me the wattage being drawn from it by PC and monitors

potent portal
#

That input voltage is from the wall yes. But if the voltage were to suddenly drop to 110V, without the UPS or an inverter your PC could crash.

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That's the point of "cleaning up" the power

#

You get constant stable voltage

tardy knoll
#

Does the PSU have an inverter?

potent portal
#

It does

#

But it isn't meant to handle unstable power

tardy knoll
#

Ok, so basically an UPS is additional clean up

potent portal
#

Yes

#

That way the power supply doesn't risk having it's protections tripped or unstable output voltage causing instability

tardy knoll
#

So how about the pure sine wave versus stepped or simulated part for the UPS

potent portal
tardy knoll
#

Yea, but as far as telling what UPS have what I'm confused AF.

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Sounds like a normal UPS switches to stepped/modified anytime it switches to battery. Which people say can make sensitive electronics glitchy. But the only ones I see that advertise sine wave stuff for while on battery are significantly more expensive

potent portal
#

Pure sine is mostly for more sensitive equipment and is more expensive.
PC hardware isn't THAT sensitive, unless you're running a server or something that needs 99.99999% reliability

#

Examples of times you want pure sine would be using high end audio equipment

#

A little ripple in the voltage can cause static or other issues

tardy knoll
#

Ok so it must not be that big of a deal if APC is so lenient selling these UPS and offering such good coverage for your devices. It's a lifetime warranty for up to 150k for any connect devices.

tardy knoll
potent portal
#

It would be a concern on main or backup power in that scenario

#

But for PC hardware it's overkill unless you're having major issues with your power

tardy knoll
#

Reading that blog now too

#

Yea idk who the heck tripped me up even mentioning this crap lol...

potent portal
#

Also keep in mind that typical applications for pure sine wave UPS systems involve the protection of critical server, network, medical and telecommunications equipment or electronic equipment that is particularly sensitive to input power, such as lab test equipment. Modified sine wave UPS systems typically protect PCs, home entertainment systems, A/V components and media centers.

tardy knoll
#

So it's just decreased performance and efficiency while on stepped ... Not like gonna mess anything up..

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Ok thanks I'm good to go now

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Whoever was being harsh on what I currently have saying I need a pure sine wave is a butthead

potent portal
#

Gatekeepers are like that sometimes

tardy knoll
#

What's a gatekeeper lol

potent portal
#

The kind of person that says "no you need the best or else it's trash and you're trash"

tardy knoll
#

😆

#

So the 1500va one is 199$ currently at best buy. The cyber power one of same size is 169.99

#

The 1500va APC one was 180 last week. And when I read the boxes the cyber power looked to have quite lower run times on battery

#

The coverage on devices is way higher though than APC. And has the phone ports to charge your phone

#

LOL this one has customizable RGB may have to grab dat lmao

vague oracle
#

don’t be me and run a completely overkill rack setup for your PC

potent portal
#

What's that? I can't hear you over my 14k rpm delta fans!

serene spire
#

What’s a good price to pay for either 3060ti and/or 3070

potent portal
#

3060 ti $500-600
3070 $600-700

#

Both should be doable with a little patience, the shortage is letting up

little osprey
#

^ gpus popping up left and right these days

serene spire
#

Newegg and Best Buy are dropping gpus like absolute crazy

vague oracle
#

Amazon recently had some good deals on GPUs also imo

#

3080 12gb for $1050 and a bunch of 3070tis for ~$750

potent portal
#

3080 12gb is a scam perpetrated by nvidia. No way in hell that an extra 2gb of memory is worth $200.

vague oracle
#

Oh 100%

#

But considering every other one out there is $1300+, $1050 isn’t a bad deal

little osprey
#

When amazon got deals for gpus you know things getting better

potent portal
#

A bad deal after a sale is still a bad deal

tardy knoll
#

Can anyone tell me what this Microsoft visual redistributable mess is that is clogging up one of my hard drives?

#

On there 8 times at different dates/times

#

Also doom appears to be taking up 89 gb in two diff places

#

Doom is literally in the apps and features folder taking up 89gb and then in the other folder it has Xbox games and shows doom taking up 89gb??

foggy stag
#

I'm looking to buy a server rack off amazon. I need it to be able to fit several of these. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JBG0LW0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1 And the place I'm placing the server is 36 inches tall. Any suggestions?

tardy knoll
#

Says im using 476 gb total but really it seems it should be 89gb less

plain grove
#

Anyone know how to install drivers my wifi card isn’t working

potent portal
#

Is that the v1 or v2 T6E?

#

Never mind they use the same driver

plain grove
#

Is that what I’m supposed to download?

potent portal
#

Yes

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Then extract it somewhere

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Run the setup

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That should be it

south cliff
#

finally got my z690 boardsocialcredit

#

cant wait for my 12600k

plain grove
#

What do I click on now @potent portal

south cliff
#

setip

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setuup

plain grove
#

And I extract that?

potent portal
#

You need to extract it all

south cliff
#

yea

potent portal
#

Then run the setup

plain grove
#

So I extract the top two then run the setup

south cliff
#

extract alll of it

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then run the setup

plain grove
#

Looks like I just needed to extract the plugins then click on setup

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Once I set it up do I need to do anything else

south cliff
#

i dont think you do

potent portal
#

Restart

plain grove
#

Alright

outer cove
#

m1 cash or m1 pro 200 monthly

potent portal
#

Depends on what you need it for

restive halo
#

Best way to wipe pc before I sell

obsidian wigeon
#

Reinstall windows

#

That's all there is to it

earnest olive
#

since the actual drive doesn't get overwritten

#

you can try using the built in windows full reset that overwrites the data, easiest solution, sometimes doesn't work properly (like it gets stuck) but worth trying

plain grove
#

Anyone know why I’m getting this error code in steam?

earnest olive
#

@restive halo

plain grove
#

Is it a problem with my pc

#

I’m tryna play dying light but I’m getting that error code

earnest olive
#

google the error code

#

this isn't really a place to ask about steam errors

obsidian wigeon
#

I mean, how many people who knows that stuff exists?

plain grove
#

Cant find much stuff on it

earnest olive
#

but if he's more security minded then he's allowed to be

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I just answered his question

obsidian wigeon
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ye, true

restive halo
earnest olive
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np, hope it works for you

fossil cedar
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fossil cedar
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vague oracle
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Assrock

restive halo
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why would you pair 3600mhz ram with b460?

little osprey
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