#building-and-recc-chat

1 messages · Page 1285 of 1

obsidian wigeon
#

don't get that

mossy venture
#

ew

untold vessel
#

i only have an intel 670 512 GB

#

what should i do

#

also can i even have two ssds at the same time

#

is that a thing

obsidian wigeon
#

if you want the best for not so much, there's sk hynix p31 gold

#

depends on your mobo

untold vessel
obsidian wigeon
#

a lot of mobos has at least two slots

untold vessel
#

i have a b560

#

if that helps

obsidian wigeon
#

what cpu?

untold vessel
#

11400f

obsidian wigeon
#

okay

untold vessel
#

got that $999 deal back 3 days ago

obsidian wigeon
#

the second m.2 slot should work if the mobo has it

#

you can look for the ssd up, i don't have time to hunt deals rn

untold vessel
#

this good, people?

obsidian wigeon
#

yep

#

109 bucks for 1tb variant is pretty nice

solar rapids
#

Hello. I have an old Cyberpower tower that I want to convert into a server rack. Has anybody ever proceeded with such a task?

coral wasp
#

Anyone have a display issue with z690 xtreme

rose torrent
#

@earnest olive are you familiar with RealBench

potent portal
earnest olive
#

it's not at all useful in my experience

#

i tried it, passed it

#

proceeded to crash in a game

little osprey
#

L

proud lance
#

Would these be the appropriate steps to install windows on a Linux running machine? 1. Remove SSD with Ubuntu on it
2. Install new ssd with nothing on it
3. Plug in windows usb
4. Boot up computer
5. Set up windows
6. Turn off computer
7. Install Linux ssd again
8. Boot computer
9. Open BIOS
10. Select Linux drive (wd black) so that it opens up the boot menu every time I start the computer
11. Boot into Linux to check
12. Boot into windows to check
13. Done!

frank stirrup
#

you can leave linux ssd attached tbh

#

just make sure you select the correct ssd to install windows to

proud lance
#

Thanks btw

celest horizon
#

Image your disks with macrium reflect if you're worried

potent portal
#

That's the kind of thing grub is really good for

proud lance
potent portal
#

Yeah. And you can have both drives in and pick which to boot on startup.

coral wasp
#

I’m trying to q flash my z690xtreme because I’m not getting a display. Is the last file the one that i rename to gigabyte.bin

potent portal
#

Should be yeah

uneven gulch
#

Does anyone know if the nzxt h510 flow comes with rgb fans?

fossil cedar
#

If you want a similar style, phanteks p360a or p400a

#

Or corsair 4000d airflow

uneven gulch
#
fossil cedar
uneven gulch
#

Whichever one's better

#

It doesnt matter to me

fossil cedar
#

Well I'd go with msi g242

uneven gulch
#

It doesnt necessarily have to be one of those 2 monitors btw, it just has to be 165hz and around $200

uneven gulch
#

But is there any monitors you will rather go with around that price range or do you think the g242 is the best

fossil cedar
#

G242 is the best option at the moment

#

It's 180$ which is nice

uneven gulch
#

Ok ty

earnest olive
#

curved and non curved aren't objectively better than the other

#

just personal preference

#

I prefer curved because it makes it easier to see the edges of your screen quickly (great in games like league where you need to see your minimap)

fossil cedar
#

I prefer flat \o/

earnest olive
#

you do typically sacrifice some image quality/viewing angles/etc compared to flat IPS screens (since curved panels are practically always VA)

fossil cedar
#

Curved ips is dummy expensive

earnest olive
#

for me the tradeoff is worth it, but it's all preference

little osprey
#

It’s all budget

desert gulch
fossil cedar
desert gulch
#

$200 seems p fair for it imo

fossil cedar
#

Ehh but 180$

uneven gulch
#

If this is better then ill just get that instead it's only $10 more

digital oracle
#

let's say : kid in candy store has Ryzen 5950 CPU & ASUS X570 Board . . . . what graphic card would you recommend right now to not hold back the capabilities of the CPU & Board (assume using 64GB RAM) (for mass data processing / multiple rendering, hard multi-apps background simultaneous usage) ... ?

earnest olive
#

I'd trade the kid some candy for it

digital oracle
fossil cedar
#

Technically 3080 ti should be in there but it's stupidly priced unless you can snag a founders edition

digital oracle
#

6900 xt priced immaterially less vs. 3080 ti non founders . . . what's the move?

#

ray tracing nbd

#

and . . . may be out of left field, tell me if this is . . . but could i just go with a 'workstation' graphic card specific and cut out the fat of the all the flash and marketing for the gaming ones?

vague oracle
#

You’re paying extra for very tiny features on the quadro line

digital oracle
#

feel like ya'll are in a syndicate and i'm just proceeding to wanting more and more costly items

formal girder
#

You ask and we provide

#

The performance is what you seek the price is what needs to be paid for salvation

vague oracle
digital oracle
#

3090 blows the 3080 out of hte water no doubt no qualms

#

basically priced 40% higher pure play on the memory?

vague oracle
#

Basically yeah, and because it’s the highest performing Nvidia card rn

digital oracle
#

your experience, your reality, you say no question, it's like the formula 1 car and the other one is like formula 3?

vague oracle
#

The actual performance between the two cards is about 10-15%

#

Between difference is one has 10gb of vram, other one has 24gb of vram

#

Now the decision between the two comes down to how much vram you actually need

digital oracle
#

i don't think i'd be rapidly exceeding the offerings of the 3080 , but the idea of having extra artillery is a comfort, maybe it's misguided...

formal girder
#

I can confirm as well and 3090 isn't the gaming card unless this is a little of my biased opinion the vram does help a lot in vr games

mossy venture
#

6900xt oc formula is much cheaper too

vague oracle
#

If he is using this is a workstation the Cuda cores will help a lot

formal girder
#

6900Xt would be the go to card for gaming or a 3080ti

vague oracle
#

Which it clearly seems like he is

formal girder
#

3090 is going down in price so it will help like I found one for under $2k

vague oracle
#

That’s not a bad price at all

#

I got both of mine for MSRP from best buy

formal girder
#

I got mine for $1600 best buy

digital oracle
#

alright i appreciate all of your mind insights, very beneficial, wish you all well

untold vessel
#

Can anyone please explain the classification of Samsung SSDs and whether or not they are good for PC Building? I've always seen them as the premier SSDs in my head without actually doing my research.

formal girder
#

Model or brand is the way to see things depends on the price to performance per GB

south cliff
#

Should i go for a 30 series or wait for 4000 series?

little osprey
#

id wait tbh

#

ive been waiting 2 years weggCringe

formal girder
#

Shilling

strong raft
coral wasp
#

Anyone familiar with flash q on the z690 mobo

rose torrent
#

@earnest olive the washer mod reduces mounting pressure btw

desert gulch
#

better than a warped cpu

strong raft
#

Still helps temps, sometimes.

earnest olive
rose torrent
#

it supposed to reduced mounting pressure between the ILM and the IHS

earnest olive
#

yeah

#

cause of the bending

rose torrent
#

yup

earnest olive
#

too much pressure can be worse than not enough

rose torrent
earnest olive
#

i put a hilariously overkill cooler on a delidded quad core today

rose torrent
#

so I'll have get some more and repaste

earnest olive
#

44c in prime95 small ffts

rose torrent
earnest olive
#

with default fan curve

rose torrent
#

thats possible!?

#

HOW

earnest olive
#

it's a 240mm aio on a delidded quad core

#

xeon e3-1241v3

#

undervolted

#

draws like 60w in prime95 at 3.7ghz all core

#

such a ridiculously large die for a quad core as well

#

so heat density is quite low

rose torrent
#

ahhh

earnest olive
#

22nm chip

rose torrent
#

it wasnt soldered was it?

earnest olive
#

nope

rose torrent
#

damn i miss those days

earnest olive
#

they started using solder for 9th gen, and K only

#

you can still delid an i9-10900 the classic way lol

#

newer than that not sure

rose torrent
#

wait so

#

would a 12900 non K be doable?

earnest olive
#

not sure after 10th gen

rose torrent
#

hmmm

earnest olive
#

only know for a fact for 9th and 10th gen

rose torrent
#

eh i probably shouldnt mess with it anyways

#

I'm not sure what else to do to bring down my temps at this point

earnest olive
#

oh you think you're brave? delid your power supply capacitors

earnest olive
#

direct die and liquid metal

#

upgrade to custom loop

rose torrent
earnest olive
#

get a water chiller for daily

earnest olive
rose torrent
earnest olive
#

I remember getting my first hwbot trophy from putting an ice pack on my laptop

#

I had to wipe off condensation between every run

earnest olive
#

yup

#

maybe need to try with my current laptop lol

#

it's scarily close to liquid cooled 5800x performance on stock air

earnest olive
#

i7-11800h

rose torrent
earnest olive
#

I put liquid metal on it and oced it to 4.6 all core

#

can sustain 125w

rose torrent
earnest olive
#

I put liquid metal on both cpu and gpu

#

runs great

#

basically 5800x + 3060ti performance

#

in a $1265 laptop

#

including 240hz screen

rose torrent
earnest olive
#

msi

#

gp66 leopard

rose torrent
earnest olive
#

MSI is the only one I know of that allows you to fully oc ram in a laptop

rose torrent
#

thats bad

earnest olive
#

also the 3070 is 140W

#

so that's nice

#

it can outperform stock desktop 3060ti

#

I see it doing 1800mhz-1900mhz in games

#

I messed up the CPU power reporting to make it think it's never taking more than 10 watts

#

so that it tricks GPU dynamic boost to always be on

#

so I always get 140W instead of 125W

#

I did so much stuff to this laptop lol

#

almost made it explode once

rose torrent
rapid jewel
#

Ello I came to ask if my pc setup is good enough for 1080p gaming
i5-10400F
RTX-3050 8GB
16GB DDR4
500GB SSD NVMe

earnest olive
#

a big drop

#

I was worried that even if I clean it there will be some microscopic particles that will short it out

#

but it's still working like 5 months later

earnest olive
rapid jewel
earnest olive
#

in what games lol

#

cyberpunk with psycho rtx at 1080p is very different from league of legends at 1080p

#

the 3050 can only do one of those

rapid jewel
earnest olive
#

yes absolutely fine

rapid jewel
#

Ah very good to hear

#

Cuz planning to build one with that specs

#

I just ordered parts

earnest olive
#

should do like 100 fps in gta and 300 in csgo

rapid jewel
earnest olive
#

can always look up some benchmarks

gilded bone
#

I know this is more for preference but want your guys insight on it. I have a Gigabyte Aorus Master 3070Ti. It is 70mm wide and is a 4 card slot. It is a secondary card and honestly takes a lot of space in any case I try. I am trying to build a small form factor PC for my office area since it's pretty much just collecting a bit of dust right now. Someone came to me and offered me a 3070Ti FE and albeight much smaller and will pretty much fit anywhere, I wanted to know your guys opinion if it's a worthwhile trade?

fossil cedar
gilded bone
# fossil cedar Not unless they're also offering you cash

Yeah, I agree with you. The card price difference is pretty big for a 3070Ti. I guess I'll have to just give up on the small form factor case and go with a small case that actually fits a 4 slot GPU. Anyone have any recommendations for one with good cooling?

frigid night
#

My recommendation is... go with Pato's recommendation.

fossil cedar
gilded bone
#

Ok. Thank you. Didn't know about hardware swap TBH. That helps a lot.

fossil cedar
#

Np

fossil cedar
#

@outer blaze nice paint job

outer blaze
#

Pretty fair priced and work fully with corsair icue

#

@fossil cedar

fossil cedar
#

Nice

fleet pagoda
#

How do i fix red vga light

#

Its not clicking into place and i cant use the bottom slot bc there isnt enough room

potent portal
#

You might need to pull on the plastic tab to get it out of the way of the slot

fleet pagoda
#

I got it in now

#

But

#

It posts without the gpu

#

But with it no post

#

It lights up and fans spin

#

Still red vga light

potent portal
#

Did it click when you put it in the slot?

fleet pagoda
#

No it wont click

#

Idk why

#

I got it to click in but still nothing

obsidian wigeon
#

have you plugged gpu power connectors in?

#

it might not be getting enough power

fleet pagoda
#

Yeah ive re connected them a few times

#

Ill try from the psu end now

#

Nope still nothin

potent portal
#

You've got the correct end connected to the GPU right? It should be the 8 pin connector that splits into 6+2

fleet pagoda
#

Using these

#

Are those wrong

potent portal
#

That's correct yeah

#

Sometimes people get the wrong end plugged into the power supply

fleet pagoda
#

What should i try next

potent portal
#

Check if there's a cable near the slot, it could be blocking the GPU from inserting all the way

fleet pagoda
#

There isnt one

#

It looks like one of those golen pins that goes into the slot is broken off

potent portal
#

Depending on where that pin is and how much broke off it could be fine.
Pic?

fleet pagoda
#

Cant get a good pic but it looks like this

#

Mine is identical to that

potent portal
#

It's on that end of the GPU too?

fleet pagoda
#

Yeah

#

Just on the gpu i believe

sage crown
#

Mine also has that on the end but it seems fine

potent portal
#

That side of the GPU is just data and ground pins, nothing important

sage crown
#

I need help also

fleet pagoda
#

Well could there be a problem with the gpu it self idk what else to try

potent portal
#

If it was on the shorter side, those are power pins

fleet pagoda
#

Only other thing i can think of is to take it out of the case and try another slot

potent portal
sage crown
#

Would this be reusable

potent portal
#

That's for the m.2 right?

sage crown
#

I also got these but I don't know what these are

#

@potent portal yes

potent portal
#

Yeah you can reuse those

sage crown
#

Okay

#

But what are these little squares stuff tho for the m.2

potent portal
#

It's a spacer for if you only have chips on one side of the drive

sage crown
#

Oh

fleet pagoda
#

I fixed it @potent portal

potent portal
#

Awesome!

fleet pagoda
#

Does this mean my pump isnt working

earnest olive
#

did you plug the pump into that header?

#

if your pump isn't working you should see some very high CPU temps

#

so it should be pretty obvious

fleet pagoda
#

Its plugged into cpu opt

earnest olive
#

then it's working lol

brittle tinsel
#

a buddy of my buddy is wanting to come to the pc master race. He said his budget is preferred less than 3k.
He said he doesnt care about graphics he just wants it to last a long time without swapping parts.
He said "if the graphics run like a ps4, Im set!"

#

any ideas for a system? im not too sure on what older gen cards will still last a while, I have a 1060 3gb but its on its way out the door

fossil cedar
#

I'll put a list for ~3k for you

fleet pagoda
#

Well he definitely doesnt need to spent any where near 3k

fossil cedar
#

Yeah he doesn't

brittle tinsel
#

I also dont know if he will be doing any content creation, he does have a lightly moderate following on insta, so I didnt know amd vs intel.

#

his content is normally short clips and pictures of games he plays

fossil cedar
#

When you're getting to 3k you're really getting into paying extra for not as much perf usually

mossy venture
fossil cedar
#

But intel 12th gen is crushing it

mossy venture
#

If he wants to save money could get a 12600k and b660 prime

#

Oh wait

brittle tinsel
#

isnt b660 amd?

mossy venture
mossy venture
#

x50 is amd

#

As well as x70

stoic island
#

too many rules to remember, just know by a chipset to chipset basis

#

b660 is intel

#

b550 is amd

mossy venture
brittle tinsel
#

would either of those processors have power to play games and screen record with medal or OBS?
I doubt he screen records but rather just clips with medal.

stoic island
#

would get 5000d airflow

#

but yes

brittle tinsel
#

alright, appreciate it folks

#

❤️

mossy venture
#

I beat you to it pato, get rekt

earnest olive
#

if the graphics run like a ps4

#

that's like

#

hd 7870 tier lol

#

can do that with a $200 budget

little osprey
#

Lmao.

#

Fail

fossil cedar
jagged ember
#

Pato always makes good build lists

tacit hollow
#

Hey guys i have a question regarding powering a gpu
Should I power it with one cord that splits in the end or just 2 cords

#

The gpu is an rtx 3070ti

tacit hollow
#

Ok thanks

tacit hollow
fossil cedar
#

Just use 2 separate

tacit hollow
#

i am i was just curious

cursive wharf
#

Sketchy cables I wouldn't trust for that. I pushed 300w on my one 8P for my old 1080Ti, still doing it with my 3080.

#

Connector is usually the weak point. They ideally shouldn't be hollow connectors, not corroded/oxidized, fully plugged in, and are properly solder to the cable itself.

subtle anchor
#

Heyo! Any suggestions of a good b660 mobo?

#

To go with my i5 12400

#

Mid tower

little osprey
#

asus prime b660plus ddr4

#

if you want to spend $140

#

otherwise you go broke getting a better board

subtle anchor
#

I think I'm gonna go with MSI Pro b660M-A

mossy venture
#

That's mobo is super overkill for a 12400

subtle anchor
#

You think so?

#

Not much a price difference

#

They're actually both $140

little osprey
#

i think either is fine for $140

#

but the prime is atx

#

and the msi one is micro atx

#

just be aware of that

coral wasp
#

Anyone have any success with z690mofo

#

I’m doing my first build and having issues

mossy venture
wooden quartz
#

Hey so my audio jack wont work I tried to update drives and reset computer won’t work but will play out the hdmi

#

Audio cable is connected to motherboard also

formal girder
strange wadi
#

Anyone know a good $150 build ?

little osprey
#

Uhhh

#

Not really

#

Theres $150 computers but they are not good

strange wadi
#

I can increase to $1k mid range stuff shouldn't be that expensive still

#

After the gpu crisis

little osprey
#

$1k would get you loads more

#

lemme look real quick

strange wadi
#

Alrighty, and thank you!

little osprey
#

whats a realistic amount you think you're gonna spend

strange wadi
#

I would say $900 for the overall build, and $100 for extra storage(s) and stuff

#

I already have a pc, but wanted to make a second one

#

for casual stuff, not exactly a main pc

little osprey
#

You want a part list or like a prebuilt

strange wadi
#

Part list

#

If that's alright!

potent portal
#

What's the purpose of this pc?

strange wadi
#

Puprose for the second pc would be, inventory management, and data transfers, like a job pc but at home instead in a receptionist place.

I don't want my main pc, become a mess from having like all lot of files from work

#

Second pc, would make it easy to manage

little osprey
#

Do you need a graphics card? it sounds like you're only doing casual work

strange wadi
#

Oh my, I forgot to say I already bought myself a GT 710 1gb

#

That should be good

little osprey
#

Ah. Good to know

#

Might need someone else to take a second look at it

potent portal
#

Totally overkill for an office type pc

strange wadi
#

Which part is overkill or overall overkill ?

#

Is it the 12th gen intel ?

potent portal
#

Mostly the 12400 and B660, and the power supply

little osprey
#

yes. im making another list for a more toned down build

strong raft
#

10400F saves $50 right there.

strange wadi
#

10400F, I swear I've heard of it before

#

I don't remember

little osprey
#

Intel core i5 processor

strange wadi
#

Ah

strong raft
#

yeah it's 10gen, the F means no igpu of course. $130 and 11gen 11400 was barely an upgrade. 11gen mainly just allowed an extra m.2 ssd slot on some mobos.

potent portal
#

And you could do H510 chipset mobo also, no need for memory overclock

little osprey
#

eh is h510 that much cheaper?

#

i was gonna add

#

for $89

#

the cheapest h510 on pcpp at least is like $83

potent portal
#

If it's that close B560 it is

#

Or B460 for that matter

little osprey
#

Yeah, idk what ram to put in this tho. Im unsure of the $50-60 budget range and the quality of those ram sticks

potent portal
#

3000 c15 sticks are fine

little osprey
#

red crucial ballistix it is

strange wadi
#

And thank you everyone for helping me finding the right parts for this office build pc, I really appreciate y'alls help!

strong raft
#

G.Skill ripjaws or another well known brand wouldn't hurt. 3200c16 or 3000c15 too, doesn't matter they're close enough. 32GB kit of ballistix is currently well priced but idk about the 16GB kit(s). Would be a nice option while it's still around.

little osprey
#

Does the 10400f need an air cooler? for office work, stock should be fine... right

potent portal
#

Stock cooler is fine

little osprey
#

256gb or 512gb storage? i feel like 512gb is a little too much and 256gb is not enough

potent portal
#

256 is just bad price when 512 is $15 more

little osprey
#

noted, thanks

#

mp33 it is

strange wadi
#

mp33 ?

#

Haven't heard of that one before

little osprey
#

Nicely priced budget m.2 nvme drive

strong raft
#

WD SN550 would be another option, but afaik it's not currently a great price. I impulse bought one at $44. Pepe_KEK

little osprey
#

Yeah, it fluctuates it bit for sure

strange wadi
little osprey
strange wadi
#

Alrighty this build looks nice, I thought I would need to chuck another $1k for a work pc and thank you guys!

potent portal
little osprey
#

Also an awesome build for around the same price, especially if you want a glass side panel

potent portal
#

Mostly picked the case because it has fans

lean berry
#

I recently just bought a 3070ti and I currently have a EVGA SuperNova 650w G2 power supply. My current setup is: i7-10700k , 16gb DDR4, 1tb Hdd, 1.5tb SSD. I have around 4-6 usb plugged in and a VR headset. I’m concerned about the power supply being enough. I’ve read multiple sources that have said it would be fine and I’ve even used multiple psu calculators. I guess I’m just stressed about ruining something in my pc. Any help?

potent portal
#

650W should be fine

lean berry
#

Thanks 😊

potent portal
#

You'd only need to move up to 750W if you got a 3080/6800XT, they spike a little higher when gaming

little osprey
frank stirrup
#

Ill let myself out now

fossil cedar
vale mulch
#

hey just joined, anyone got best build 3k or under.. too lazy and too many options to choose from.. will be first build since 2016, spent hours googling last night and head spinning from everything out there now

little osprey
#

@strange wadi you could try x79 or x99 :)

fossil cedar
#

No wait the 3080 is gone

#

Lemme get different gpu

vale mulch
#

tbh i could use a 3060

#

im using it for work i dont need the best gpu

fossil cedar
#

I fixed the links

fossil cedar
vale mulch
#

tickets, so i need plenty of tabs open at once ram more important to me.. your first link looks just about as what i was about to go with

fossil cedar
#

All i did with the first link was change the power supply

#

But yeah that should do you nicely

#

32gb of nice fast ram 12700k weggChefKiss

vale mulch
#

can you do 64 gb on that set up?

fossil cedar
#

I mean you can but i highly doubt you'd use 64gb

vale mulch
#

thanks man just what i was looking for and yeah ill probv leave battery also cause i have a 1200 p2 at home

fossil cedar
#

Ohh yeah if you already have a good psu no need to get a new one

vale mulch
#

@fossil cedar appreciate the help! have a great day

fossil cedar
#

No prob you too 😊

wooden quartz
#

Hey so my audio jack wont work I tried to update drives and reset computer won’t work but will play out the hdmi Audio cable is connected to motherboard also

analog hearth
#

did you try the troubleshooter built in with Windows?

#

also check for Windows updates

fossil cedar
wooden quartz
#

Pc up to date And did do troubleshooting

#

@fossil cedar Both don’t work it shows it’s plugged in but no audio and speakers do work when I plug es it in to mu phone

jagged ember
#

tried a different cable?

wooden quartz
#

No it’s only one cable on speakers 🔊

#

It dose make slight buzzing noise when plugged it

#

In*

jagged ember
#

but did you try playing sound through a different cable

analog hearth
#

sounds like a software issue

jagged ember
#

mm

#

just to be sure, yk?

#

just takes a couple seconds

analog hearth
#

I would download the drivers directly from your motherboard's webpage

wooden quartz
#

It’s a omen board

#

So how do I do that

jagged ember
#

ohh

#

so it's a laptop?

jagged ember
wooden quartz
#

No it’s a pc

#

HP OMEN Obelisk 875 Series 875-0014 Edoras Motherboard L23867-001 L23867-601

#

875-0018 I mean

#

How do I Re-download drives

#

@analog hearth

jagged ember
#

you go to the motherboard website and download the latest audio driver

wooden quartz
#

I understand that but idk why websites I would go to

jagged ember
#

omen?

#

that's who made the motherboard, right?

wooden quartz
#

@potent portal told me a wile back when he looked it up it’s a omen board claiming to me a micro Sox

#

Apx*

#

I’m so lost on this computer sorry guys

#

@little osprey What about window 11 I only see windows 10

little osprey
#

Should work the same

wooden quartz
#

Ok sweet

#

So I uninstall old file and install new file?

little osprey
#

Ok wait, what’s the problem here

#

You plug in HDMI and an audio cable, but your audio is stuck going through HDMI.

#

Do you want to switch the output? Like switch from HDMI to your headphones

wooden quartz
#

I can play audio out my hdmi put when I tell it to play audio out my headphones it shows it playing but no audio I checked the speakers on another device and it will work but not on my computer

little osprey
#

I see

wooden quartz
#

Neither on the front or back jack will play audio

little osprey
#

It’s just static sound?

wooden quartz
#

Yes

fossil cedar
#

And uhm update your chipset and audio drivers

wooden quartz
#

It is concerned I checked

#

I checked for updated and it up to date

fossil cedar
wooden quartz
#

Not tried different speakers but have tried the speakers on a different device

fossil cedar
#

Yeah considering it's a hp I'd just contact them tbh

#

Sounds like a faulty board

little osprey
#

If you’re under warranty, that is

#

they won’t allow you to chat for tech support otherwise

fossil cedar
#

Bruh

wooden quartz
#

I’m not under warranty

unique haven
#

Do I need a sata ssd or a hdd?

#

Or can I just use a m.2

mossy venture
unique haven
#

Well I already got a Samsung ego plus 1 tb ssd

#

Evo*

mossy venture
#

hdd should be fine

unique haven
#

Oh so I need it

#

Frick

mossy venture
#

?

#

what?

#

an nvme ssd by itself is fine

#

you dont need a sata drive

unique haven
#

Do I have to get the hhd?

mossy venture
#

no

#

i thought you were asking what to do for more storage

unique haven
#

Oh

#

Just for now I was gonna go with just the m.2

mossy venture
#

nvme ssds are great

unique haven
#

Later imma get a hhd

mossy venture
#

also btw its hdd

unique haven
#

Oh oops

mossy venture
#

not an issue, jsyk

#

i used to make the same mistake lol

unique haven
#

Lol

#

Thanks!

mossy venture
#

np

tropic ginkgo
#

help me with the GPU choice for a sub 600$ build

mossy venture
fossil cedar
#

ohhhhhhhhhh

#

yikes

mossy venture
tropic ginkgo
#

no its alright they mostly say RX6500XT is dog water but man I don't care at this point

mossy venture
#

for your budget its probably the best youll get without waiting too long

tropic ginkgo
#

yeah and its the only one you can find at a reasonable price in morocco ;-;

fossil cedar
#

you realise that would cost a fortune in import tax most likely right

tropic ginkgo
#

no actualy I will try and find the products in morocco and match them as closely as possible to the list

fossil cedar
#

prices etc will be different

tropic ginkgo
#

just read HP.COM ain't buyin' it

tropic ginkgo
fossil cedar
#

would be better off sending us links to where you would buy from

fossil cedar
tropic ginkgo
tropic ginkgo
tropic ginkgo
fossil cedar
tropic ginkgo
#

fun fact did you know that the import fees in morocco are based on material and weight not on size and weight

fossil cedar
#

wierd

tropic ginkgo
#

yeah its more about europes importing stuff getting into here and they changed it

#

OH 130$ for an i3 10100F in a local website!

#

should I consider it?

fossil cedar
#

With your budget ye

tropic ginkgo
#

but then here comes the issue

#

motherboards

#

they are so gosh darn expensive

#

especialy for the LGA 1200 and let alone LGA 1700

subtle anchor
#

Hey, anyone recommend a decently priced antistatic mat?

#

Some claim antistatic but aren't effective

subtle anchor
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
unique haven
#

Why does gpu have to be so expensive

#

Is static really that big of a problem?

#

or do i not need those anti static mats and what not

autumn wolf
#

depends on where you live and where you're building. static really isnt much of an issue but if you do want to be safe then you can buy one

unique haven
#

then ill probably just not worry about it

#

im building on a marble table

fossil cedar
#

If you want just plug in psu and touch it every so often

unique haven
#

ok

jagged ember
#

that's what i did

desert gulch
#

The big area you'll get static is by peeling those protective plastic peelies on the side panel and stuff

desert gulch
fossil cedar
#

Indood

desert gulch
#

Also, standard laptop chargers are a great way to ground too

#

The outside of them is usually the neutral/ground

unique haven
#

should i get a rx 6600 xt amd radeon or a RX 3060 XC gaming?

desert gulch
unique haven
#

gaming and coding

desert gulch
#

For gaming I'd def go 6600xt, but idk if coders have a preference of Nvidia/ATI

#

I'll let someone with more knowledge on that answer the question

unique haven
#

its fine i think ill go with 6600 xt

desert gulch
#

Yeah it'll definitely have more power in games and all that

#

Just not sure if there's issues with support or whatever for coders

unique haven
#

it should be fine

little osprey
#

depends on pricing

potent portal
#

Coding is almost 100% CPU. Barely any use while writing code but test compiling slams single cores.

earnest olive
#

i've had a few builds just running on top of the motherboard box lol

#

your components are safe (from static at least) on there

subtle anchor
#

lol

#

So I shouldn't need to invest in a mat?

earnest olive
#

friendly reminder that a case is an optional component

earnest olive
subtle anchor
mossy venture
#

im debating grabbing this 1050 ti for $100 and canceling my order for that 1650

#

since that thing was so overpriced

subtle anchor
#

how much vram

earnest olive
#

yeah they're pretty unnecessary, if you have any static concerns just put your hand on a doorknob every 5 minutes

#

4gb

mossy venture
#

1050 ti is barely worse than 1650 right?

subtle anchor
#

i have a gtx 1050 2gb vram

earnest olive
#

the anti static wristband is slightly less useless than an anti static mat

subtle anchor
#

it's pretty outdated

earnest olive
#

but you absolutely don't need either

subtle anchor
#

phew

#

kk thanks for saving me $20

#

also, amazon couldn't expedite my mobo

earnest olive
#

it's also pretty hard to damage modern components with static nowadays, protections exist

subtle anchor
#

even though they said they could originally

#

so I cancelled and went with newegg lol

earnest olive
#

but still better to just touch a doorknob every once in a while and don't build on carpet

subtle anchor
#

they're sorta pissy about me cancelling the order

earnest olive
#

that's pretty much the extent of how anyone's static concerns should be

earnest olive
subtle anchor
#

could I put a cardboard box above the carpet?

earnest olive
#

yeah

little osprey
#

Yes

subtle anchor
#

to step on while i build?

mossy venture
little osprey
#

No

#

No

mossy venture
#

difference is 1650 is new

earnest olive
#

just stay in reach of a doorknob or some metal that you can ground yourself on

subtle anchor
#

cardboard doesn't produce static yea?

earnest olive
#

while you're on your cardboard island

little osprey
#

You might skip

subtle anchor
#

yeahh

little osprey
#

Slip

subtle anchor
#

that sounds like the vibe

earnest olive
#

i had my friend build on a cardboard island on his carpet

#

lol

subtle anchor
#

yeahh

#

I'm doing that 100%

mossy venture
#

and 220 on a 1650 is still hard to swallow

little osprey
#

Bruh

subtle anchor
#

cardboard island doorknob paradise

little osprey
#

With pc

earnest olive
subtle anchor
#

lol the pc will be on the ground

little osprey
subtle anchor
#

on the cardboard island

earnest olive
#

115 is a great deal for a 1050ti in the current market

#

ah

#

that's uhh

#

not great for your kneecaps

little osprey
#

I saw a 1060 3gb for $110

subtle anchor
#

yeah true

little osprey
#

Idk if it’s still up

subtle anchor
#

wood desk?

#

wood desk standing on cardboard island

mossy venture
#

otherwise ill just keep the 1650 and ill keep trying for a card for the next month till return window expires

subtle anchor
#

that sounds like the play

little osprey
subtle anchor
#

i recently got some money I think I could use to upg my graphics card

mossy venture
#

i have trouble trusting marketplace non local deals

mossy venture
#

also power supply

subtle anchor
mossy venture
#

oh yeah, def time for a gpu upgrade

subtle anchor
#

corsair CORSAIR CX-M Series CX650M 650W 80 PLUS BRONZE

mossy venture
#

theres supposedly going to be a bb drop tmrw, as well as evga

subtle anchor
#

well, I am rocking a i5 6400 until it arrives

#

bb drop?

mossy venture
#

best buy

subtle anchor
#

ohhhh shoot

#

drop in price?

mossy venture
#

im pretty sure that psu is low priority c tier

subtle anchor
#

or just new gfx

earnest olive
#

i mean my friend just had a desk in his carpeted room

little osprey
mossy venture
#

in stock graphics cards

subtle anchor
#

ooo

earnest olive
#

and stood in front of the desk on cardboard island

#

the desk doesn't need to be on cardboard it's not going to conduct static

subtle anchor
#

dang I might have to snag one

mossy venture
earnest olive
#

desk can be on carpet

little osprey
#

I live in a cardboard box

mossy venture
mossy venture
#

they sell out fast

subtle anchor
#

half the desk is on wood floor, half on rug

earnest olive
#

buy a corsair 7000d and live in the box

subtle anchor
earnest olive
#

free rent

subtle anchor
#

or sometime mid day?

mossy venture
#

most likely around 11:30, if there is one

subtle anchor
earnest olive
#

don't you need to buy the bs $200 membership for BB drops now?

mossy venture
#

evga drop if theres one any time throughout the day

mossy venture
#

we wont know if its needed for this one till it happens

subtle anchor
#

you said the psu was mid-tier?

#

I figured it'd do the job

little osprey
#

Mid tier is okay

mossy venture
#

not really

#

its low priority c tier iirc

subtle anchor
#

oof

mossy venture
#

i could be wrong

subtle anchor
#

better than my current psu

little osprey
#

Do you have a list of parts?

subtle anchor
#

I'd have to make one up real quick

little osprey
#

Did you buy basically everything already

subtle anchor
#

I have all the parts except mobo and cpu coming in tomorrow

earnest olive
#

which year is that psu from?

#

some of them are known to have horrible coil whine issues

subtle anchor
#

i'll check- my current psu is ancient

earnest olive
#

well, you can still buy new units of the 2017 model

subtle anchor
#

ouch

#

February 09, 2016

earnest olive
#

or the 2016 model

subtle anchor
#

first available

little osprey
#

Which specific year is yours

earnest olive
#

the 2016 model is the best of the CX line

subtle anchor
#

oh interesting

little osprey
subtle anchor
#

would it say on the box?

#

i can check

earnest olive
#

CX 2016: B+
CX 2017: C
CX 2021: C-

little osprey
#

Isn’t one like grey label and one white or smth

mossy venture
#

hmm

#

i found some 570 4gb for 150 before shipping

earnest olive
#

the B+ one has a gray label

little osprey
#

Meeeeh

#

radeon is mid

earnest olive
#

570 4gb destroys 1050ti

#

beats 1650 as well

mossy venture
#

i know

#

only issue is the tdp

little osprey
#

Yes but it’s like 1650S right

earnest olive
#

good sample 570 4gbs can beat 1060 6gb

mossy venture
#

might be too high, i still dont know my partners psu and they cant check without taking the whole pc apart

earnest olive
#

floppa's 570 beat my 1060 6gb iirc

mossy venture
#

because of how weird the case is

earnest olive
#

@wheat coral what was your 570 time spy again babe

little osprey
#

Isn’t his 570 special

subtle anchor
#

idk what year my psu is

#

specifically

earnest olive
#

well now it gets a score of 0

earnest olive
earnest olive
#

haswell ready

#

that's an old boy

subtle anchor
#

ouch

#

I mean, it'll do the job

earnest olive
#

haswell is 2013

subtle anchor
#

dang

little osprey
#

I mean it works

earnest olive
#

the psu tier list doesn't have any data about this psu

#

so i dunno

subtle anchor
#

I got a $20 rebate on it

little osprey
#

It’s probably fine until your pc blows up

subtle anchor
#

so I spent $43 instead of $63

#

my current psu is only 400w

#

or something

little osprey
#

Mines is 300w get rekt

subtle anchor
#

lol dang

#

yeah my current psu is meh

#

i figure 650 will do the job

little osprey
#

Yes should be fine

subtle anchor
#

i heard lots of people overpower their machine

earnest olive
#

hmm

little osprey
#

That’s not really a thing

subtle anchor
#

i mean like

#

they get higher wattage than what's necessary

little osprey
#

Future proofing

subtle anchor
#

meh yeah

little osprey
#

So you have room to grow

earnest olive
#

i'm not finding any mention of a 2013 cx650m existing, and it seems you bought the 2016 model

subtle anchor
#

Oh nice

earnest olive
#

i wonder why they advertised it as haswell ready in 2016

subtle anchor
#

yeah

earnest olive
#

6th gen was out by then...

subtle anchor
#

It looks like an up-to-date box

earnest olive
#

haswell is 4th gen

subtle anchor
#

at least to me

earnest olive
#

you're pairing it with 12th gen

subtle anchor
#

yeah

little osprey
#

whatever if the 2016 model is fine then hes good to go

earnest olive
#

anyways, this is a B+ tier psu

#

should be alright

subtle anchor
#

oh not bad

little osprey
#

"alright"

earnest olive
#

should be able to run up to a 3070ti without issues

subtle anchor
#

yeah I'll take it

earnest olive
#

3080+ no

little osprey
#

W

subtle anchor
#

so, with my setup

earnest olive
#

well, depends

subtle anchor
#

what gpu upg

#

what are we thinking?

#

anything better than a 1050

#

idk if I need a 3080

little osprey
#

3060 should be fine

earnest olive
#

3080-3090 possibly would run on this paired with the 12400, but i wouldn't trust 3090/3080ti

subtle anchor
#

budget is say, maybe $300

#

dang

little osprey
#

maybe go for a 3050

earnest olive
#

3080 should be fine with an undervolt

subtle anchor
#

what's the pricepoint on the 3050?

little osprey
#

$249 - $350 ish

earnest olive
#

3080 should be fine at stock settings too depending on the model

subtle anchor
#

Oh wow

#

scalpers aren't screwing me over today I guess

earnest olive
#

prob don't want to push it to 450w, but 320w should be fine

little osprey
#

It depends where you buy....

#

EVGA has had multiple restockings recently

earnest olive
#

rx 6600xt has been available for attractive prices recently

little osprey
#

that too

subtle anchor
#

oh wow

#

6600xt? never herad of that

earnest olive
#

seen a few around $400

little osprey
#

theres loads more options

subtle anchor
#

that's a new one then?

little osprey
#

fairly new

subtle anchor
#

dang, a 3050 will be a substantial upgrade from my 1050 yea?

#

1050 is oollld

little osprey
#

Yes

#

3050 has dlss and will allow you to hit higher framerates

#

search up "3050 game benchmarks" on youtube to find out how much fps you would get on your favorite games

earnest olive
#

3050 should be 2.5-5x more powerful than the 1050 depending on the situation

subtle anchor
#

wow, so retail they go for $250?

earnest olive
#

5x if you're running like dlss ultra performance or something

subtle anchor
#

but scalpers suck em up

earnest olive
#

2.5x baseline

little osprey
subtle anchor
earnest olive
#

may not translate to 2.5x fps because cpu and ram bottlenecks exist

#

and game engine bottlenecks

#

or just turning up the settings

subtle anchor
#

my current gpu is 2gb lol

little osprey
#

Meh ventus has a mediocre cooler

earnest olive
#

should be fine on a 3050

little osprey
#

its only a 3050 though i wouldnt be so worried

subtle anchor
#

yeah but either way, should be real nice for music production

earnest olive
#

looks like the same cooler that they put on the 3070 lmaooo

little osprey
#

yes it does

earnest olive
#

hmm ok no it's slimmer

little osprey
subtle anchor
#

yea it is

#

that's the main reason I was looking to upgrade to a hefty one

#

thanks to orange mushroom for the suggestion of an i5 12400 vs the i7 I was looking at

proud lance
#

Uh my gpu is plugged in and my entire comp is working but the gpu fans aren’t spinning and there is no display

subtle anchor
#

it's 10x better

little osprey
proud lance
#

Yep

earnest olive
#

are there any lights on the gpu

proud lance
#

No

little osprey
#

damn

earnest olive
#

are there supposed to be

proud lance
#

It’s an msi rx580

#

I don’t think so

little osprey
#

like rgb that type of thing

proud lance
#

No

earnest olive
#

logo might light up

#

which model

little osprey
#

these?

earnest olive
#

or this?

proud lance
earnest olive
#

alright no lights then

proud lance
#

It was working fine until I took it out to install a new ssd

earnest olive
#

turn it off and reseat the graphics card as well the power cables

#

yeah sounds like you didn't seat it perfectly i'd guess

little osprey
#

^ was about to say

proud lance
#

Twice

earnest olive
#

just the power cables to the graphics card should be enough

subtle anchor
#

so, optimal price for a 3050?

#

you'd say $300-350?

little osprey
#

$249

subtle anchor
#

$249 optimal

#

got it

little osprey
#

$300 is ok and $350 is a stretch

earnest olive
#

optimal? lol, if we were in a sane market it would be $179

bright notch
#

hey, if I wanted to use two monitors, do I need another gpu?

subtle anchor
#

anything over 350 is overkill

earnest olive
#

you can drive up to 7 monitors with one dgpu and one igpu depending

little osprey
proud lance
earnest olive
#

or 4 with just one dgpu

#

or 3 with no dgpu and 1 igpu

proud lance
#

And then a 6 pin power connecter

earnest olive
proud lance
#

Ye

little osprey
bright notch
little osprey
earnest olive
#

it's hard to tell whether or not the gpu is the problem if no lights

#

cause no fan spin can just be a sign of normal fan stop function

bright notch
little osprey
#

well by going back to the original config you can see if the gpu still works or not

earnest olive
#

when rgb is actually a useful feature KEKW

proud lance
#

I’ve had this problem before and it fixed itself after an hour

little osprey
#

maybe try leaving it out for an hour 🤨

proud lance
#

I did

earnest olive
#

if you insist you've seated everything perfectly

#

maybe try power cycling your system

little osprey
#

its probably your gpu riser ngl

earnest olive
#

what you just said makes me think of that

proud lance
earnest olive
#

switch off psu, hold power button on your case for like a minute

#

then switch on psu and try to turn it on again

proud lance
#

What will that do

earnest olive
#

drains all the capacitors and stuff

little osprey
#

power cycle your system

proud lance
#

Ic

earnest olive
#

for a cold boot

proud lance
#

Ok I’ll try that

earnest olive
#

oh

#

not quite 1060 level then

#

but close

proud lance
#

I haven’t touched it in hour

#

So ill see

#

Now

little osprey
#

me with 4013 😭

bright notch
#

@earnest olive btw, is your avatar icon from Maple Story?

earnest olive
#

yes

little osprey
#

LOL

bright notch
#

nice lol

little osprey
#

Maple story community

earnest olive
#

bad game

#

but orange mushroom good

wheat coral
#

4665

bright notch
#

indeed

wheat coral
#

thats the score

earnest olive
#

4665

#

nice

little osprey
#

i couldnt stand maple story

earnest olive
#

very close to my 1060

wheat coral
earnest olive
#

floppa did you see what i did to my xeon

wheat coral
#

delid

earnest olive
#

no

wheat coral
#

o

earnest olive
#

i put a 240 aio on it after delidding it

#

lmao

little osprey
#

bruh

earnest olive
wheat coral
#

but why

earnest olive
#

that's with stock fan curve

wheat coral
#

worse than i thought

earnest olive
#

ok but thats at 26c ambient

wheat coral
#

youd get similar results out of a d15

earnest olive
#

well yeah

#

d15 is on par with most 240 aios

#

79F room temp

#

toasty

wheat coral
#

doesnt a d15 lose to like any aio at 100% pump speed

earnest olive
#

no

#

definitely the prettiest PC I've ever built

little osprey
#

still prettier than mine

earnest olive
wheat coral
#

oh its a mag 240

earnest olive
#

i got this back from the msi recall

#

cause i gave a customer a coreliquid that failed

wheat coral
#

its definitely an aio

earnest olive
#

she doesn't have time to bring her pc over yet

#

so i just tested it first

little osprey
#

nice monitor

earnest olive
#

thanks

little osprey
#

i could use one of those and a raspberry pi

#

mini pc build

proud lance
#

@earnest olive THANK YOU SO MUCH

#

THE COLD REBOOT

little osprey
#

yay

earnest olive
#

power cycle worked?

proud lance
#

WORKED

#

YE

earnest olive
#

sweet

proud lance
#

THANKS SO MUCH

little osprey
#

Have fun gaming