building-and-recc-chat

[brittle copper]

Might try that out

[jagged ember]

hot

[frank stirrup]

no use for you tbh

but yeah if its at 90-95c on a 360mm arctic freezer, ur doing something wrong

there is some sort of issue

[brittle copper]

Oh it’s worse than that

This one is a 420mm one

[frank stirrup]

is ur pump running at 100%

all the time?

[brittle copper]

Nah it’s on MSI Smart Fan

[frank stirrup]

theres ur issue

pump should always be at 100%

and fans at variable speed

[brittle copper]

Don’t the liquid freezer pump and fans occupy the same header?

On the mobo

[strong raft]

heck no. pump on pump header, fans on separate header (cpu_fan, Sys_fan, w/e

[brittle copper]

Just to make sure we’re on the same page

We’re talking about the radiator fans right?

[strong raft]

yep.

[brittle copper]

Not the case fans?

Okay so

[frank stirrup]

rad fans are all on one header

[brittle copper]

The AIO comes with the radiator fans daisy chained together

[frank stirrup]

and the pump is on another

[brittle copper]

And one header for the pump

[frank stirrup]

the pump needs to run at 100% all the time

fans can be variable

if ur aio pump isnt at 100% ur doing it wrong

[strong raft]

I mean did you use the pump header. Kinda weird it says pump fan instead of simply pump/aio pump, but w/e,

[potent portal]

It's designed to do that, which is why pump headers default to 100%

[frank stirrup]

exactly

cant cool well if the fluid doesnt flow

[brittle copper]

So the the header coming out of the pump

[jagged ember]

no real point in reducing flow rate either as far as i know

[brittle copper]

Does that control only the pump

[potent portal]

I use vortex btw for skyrim mods

[frank stirrup]

yes

[brittle copper]

Or the pump@and the radiator fans?

[brittle copper]

I should try that

[jagged ember]

the pump header should control only the pump

[potent portal]

The fans can go on the cpu_fan header

[jagged ember]

the fans have a separate header after all

[brittle copper]

Not on my aio it doesn’t

[potent portal]

Then you're probably overloading the header and throttling the fans and pump

[brittle copper]

They came daisy chained to a header plug that goes inside the radiator I think

[jagged ember]

yeah isn't that the fan header?

just daisy chained

[brittle copper]

What I’m saying so that there’s no other empty headers

Other than the one attached to the pump

It came like that

[jagged ember]

it must be late because i do not understand lmao

[potent portal]

You changed the fans though, that's no longer an ideal configuration

[jagged ember]

don't explain, its fine

well not to me at least

[brittle copper]

Damn bro chill

[potent portal]

The 6 fans alone are probably fine on one header, but adding the pump too is asking for too much power at full load like that

[brittle copper]

I set the extra 3 pull fans on a separate header

[jagged ember]

i'm saying im too dumb to comprehend words

[brittle copper]

And set CPU_FAN1 and PUMP_FAN1 to Smart Fan

Should I just set them both to 100%?

It’ll probably make the fans go to 100% too

[frank stirrup]

pump fan which should have the wire from the pump should be set to 100%

[brittle copper]

Not just the pump(?)

[frank stirrup]

the pump is the part that sits on the cpu

[brittle copper]

Yeah I know

[frank stirrup]

No

just

[brittle copper]

That’s plugged into PUMP_FAN1

[frank stirrup]

the

pump

[frank stirrup]

then put that to 100%

[brittle copper]

Ohhh

[frank stirrup]

and keep it at 100%

keep all ur fans at NOT 100%

just the pump

should be on 100%

nothing else

ok?

[brittle copper]

So I went on Reddit to clear up some confusion

And apparently for the liquid freezer that one header really does control the pump, vrm fan, and radiator fans all together

[jagged ember]

i would not trust reddit with anything tbh

[strong raft]

btw header is the part on a mobo. Just say wire/cable

[brittle copper]

I promise you guys there’s only one header sticking out of this thing

[strong raft]

?...

[brittle copper]

Yeah that’s it

Sticking out of the pump

That header controls the pump, the vrm fan, AND the radiator fans

Oh should I say cable

You know what I mean

[strong raft]

ok idk, just in bios set that pump_fan 1 to 100%.

[earnest olive]

pump and fans being controlled by the same source sounds super sus

but i've never used an lf2 so idk

[brittle copper]

Yeah it’s weird but it came connected that way so maybe that how they designed it to be

[scenic turret]

Too bad vintage is no longer here

[earnest olive]

there's 8 cables coming off of my aio lol

[strong raft]

Seems wack. Should maybe re-do some wiring. pump wire should be by itself on the pump_fan1 header obviously, then rad fans (w/ splitters it seems) hooked to 1 like this : (that mobo must have enough settings to easily set pump to 100% but not the fans. Worst case, set all that crap to 100% and deal w/ the noise or get lower rpm fans.

[jagged ember]

if theyre all connected can you unplug the fan cables?

plug those into cpu_fan

[brittle copper]

Ohhh

Do AIOs typically come with splitters for the radiator fans?

[earnest olive]

yes

or just daisy chain into each other

but it's extremely abnormal for the pump to also be connected to the fans

since pump is usually just set to static 100%

[brittle copper]

Seems like other people have encountered this issue from arctic as wel

[earnest olive]

p12s should be able to daisy chain without splitter

[brittle copper]

They can but the ones that come with the aio are extremely short

There we go

[earnest olive]

oh the pump will run 100% at 40% pwm

that makes a lot more sense then

yeah just use a normal fan curve

p12s are quiet anyways so 40% minimum isn't going to be an issue

[desert gulch]

i can confirm he is right

ive used them before

[brittle copper]

I need to go home and make sure the Smart Fan curve is at 40%

[brittle copper]

Finally someone that doesn’t want to crucify me

[little osprey]

Lmao

[earnest olive]

i never crucified you

[little osprey]

has anyone

[desert gulch]

i used the 280 and just plugged it into the aio header

it wasnt that loud tbh, even tho the fans were running at full speed

[brittle copper]

Nah you were fine man

[little osprey]

were

[brittle copper]

Silence moose

[earnest olive]

that's actually a really smart design

i like it

[brittle copper]

I guess I’ll leave the lab early and go check on my fan curve

[desert gulch]

yeah, then people wont forgot to plug stuff in

i was very confused aswell when i first unboxed my lf2, its since been shipped off to a customer

[earnest olive]

also just uses less headers for the same result

[desert gulch]

yea

not being able to control fans is the downside

[frigid night]

Wait, so set idle speed to 40%?

[desert gulch]

maybe theres a way too, i just never figured it out

[frigid night]

Yeah I feel like I'd rather be able to control the fan speed.

[brittle copper]

@strong raft @frank stirrup

[earnest olive]

no?

you can control the fans

[desert gulch]

its all on one header

[brittle copper]

Yeah you can control them

[desert gulch]

so if you control the fans, you control the pump

[earnest olive]

the pump runs at 100% if pwm is above 40%

so just control the fans and pump runs at 100

[desert gulch]

oh true, i never figured that out at the time, LOL

[brittle copper]

But you guys

What about the elephant in the room?

[desert gulch]

the 1600 watt psu?

[brittle copper]

What happens if the PWM goes below 40%

[earnest olive]

make it not go below 40 lol

[brittle copper]

Lmfaoooo that caught me off guard

[desert gulch]

xD

[earnest olive]

if they designed it like that i'd imagine they also made 40 the minimum pwm

40 is a pretty common pwm floor

[frigid night]

Whats a good fan curve to start off with for a noob?

I'm the noob.

[earnest olive]

well, default fan curves are there to be used

[brittle copper]

So assuming my fan curve is 40%+

[earnest olive]

just plug it into cpu fan header and you're golden

[brittle copper]

That’s still 91C at 250W

[earnest olive]

sounds normal

[brittle copper]

On a 420mm AIO with 6 fans in push-pull

[earnest olive]

250w is a lot of cpu power, and cooling bottlenecks exist

[brittle copper]

Yeah I think I hit the diminishing returns

[earnest olive]

you could potentially benefit from washer mod or direct die/LM

[brittle copper]

Oh yeah I brought that up earlier

[earnest olive]

it's not exactly diminishing returns

[brittle copper]

Really?

For radiator size would it not be diminishing returns?

[earnest olive]

it's like if you upgraded from your 8800 GTX to a 3090

but kept your core 2 duo

you're not hitting gpu diminishing returns

it's just that something else in the equation is the new limiting factor

[brittle copper]

Oh

That’s what you meant by bottleneck

[earnest olive]

such as mounting pressure

LGA1700 socket seems to have some design problems

which is why washer mod works

but it depends on the socket

91C at 250W is not bad

[brittle copper]

Yeah I downloaded the thingiverse file from that thread

I’ll try and print the spacer

Or should I just get the washers….

[brittle copper]

Yeah but I mean

My cooling is taking up half of my case man

It’s gotta do something

[potent portal]

The washer mod doesn't always work, and sometimes it's worse. Mounting pressure is a big problem too, either too much or too little.

[earnest olive]

yeah, washer mod is coinflip

not every socket has that issue

[earnest olive]

yeah, 91C is something

you're keeping it significantly below temp limit at high load

that's something

[brittle copper]

Oh I didn’t think of it that way

But ya know

There was that one day it went to 288 W

[earnest olive]

safe operating temperature is 100C 24/7/365 for 20 years lol

[brittle copper]

And 98C

And thermal throttled

I never thought I’d see a cpu thermal throttle under a 420MM AIO

[earnest olive]

please don't filter evade thanks

[brittle copper]

Filter evade?

[earnest olive]

but i mean you're pushing 1.4V+

that's usually reserved for sub ambient cooling

usually aio cooling on a 12900K should stick to like 1.2-1.25

[brittle copper]

Oh y’all are talking about the bot

[potent portal]

Deleting one letter from a swear word doesn't make it not a swear word

[brittle copper]

Have you guys ever watched those Beluga videos on YouTube?

[potent portal]

I'm not young enough to care about that lol

[brittle copper]

You might like it

[brittle copper]

Dang I’m surprised you were able to see that that fast

[potent portal]

I doubt that. I know who that is at least and I'm not interested in what they play.

[brittle copper]

Oh they don’t play anything

They make discord videos

[earnest olive]

1.4V is an extremely high voltage for such a high density node

my 5800x hits throttling at 1.25V with 170W

under a galahad 360 and 12 case fans

your cooler is already doing an incredible job

[potent portal]

Yeah a little negative offset can go a long way, even 25mV can drop 4 degrees in some cases

[earnest olive]

absolute wattage isn't the entire equation, heat density matters a lot

[brittle copper]

Ahhh makes sense

[earnest olive]

for example, 5800x is harder to cool than 5950x despite taking significantly less wattage because the heat density is much higher

[brittle copper]

I overrode it to 1.3V

When my room is cold it goes to 84C at 240W

[earnest olive]

1.3V should bring your temps down a lot

yeah 84C is cold for a 12900K lol

[brittle copper]

I think that’s good

[potent portal]

Manual set isn't the way to go either, it'll idle at higher power draw

[earnest olive]

well depends on what load i guess

[brittle copper]

I don’t know if I can stable 5.2 GHz all core with any offset

I can try

[earnest olive]

don't c-states override manual vcore? as long as you're on balanced power plan?

[potent portal]

It can but that's not reliable

[potent portal]

It really shouldn't need 1.4v for that still, maybe 1.35v if you got a bad sample

[brittle copper]

Alright I’ll give it a shot

[earnest olive]

i acknowledge i have limited experience with ocing intel cpus, especially modern ones, but i recall my 4770k correctly idling to 800mhz 0.6v-ish with 1.4v manual

[brittle copper]

Yes

I run on high performance mode Al the time

[earnest olive]

you really shouldn't

[brittle copper]

But yes balance mode should override

Hmmm

[earnest olive]

you gain 0 perf from it

[brittle copper]

Silicon degradation?

[earnest olive]

all it does is disable idle mode and waste power

all of my oc records are on balanced mode

[brittle copper]

Oooooh

[brittle copper]

Good thing my utilities are included lmao

[strong raft]

You mean this specific spot? idk, I often see my cpu downclock and downvolt at idle.

[earnest olive]

still harming environment for no gain

[potent portal]

Which ironically is how you fix certain crashes on ryzen because zen 2 and under couldn't figure out how to downclock

[brittle copper]

Oh dang well when you put it that way

[earnest olive]

thats what the ryzen power plans are for no?

i had no issues with 20+ zen 2 chips personally

[potent portal]

Yeah but the ryzen balanced plan sets the minimum state to like 70%

[earnest olive]

ryzen balanced plan

i mean minimum state 90% and minimum state 5% are the same vcore on my 5800x

[strong raft]

? Can always edit min/max processor state on various power modes.

[potent portal]

That's zen 3 though

They fixed it

No more ryzen power plans

[earnest olive]

i haven't checked on zen 2 but i can't imagine 70% is less efficient than 100% lol

[potent portal]

Well when it was at 40% on zen 2 and older it was crashing with watchdog violations

But only at idle, when it's clocking down

[earnest olive]

he's not on zen 2 and the issue is easily fixable on zen 2 anyways so my recommendation does not change

[potent portal]

Fair enough, it's a moot point

[brittle copper]

So uhhh

Y’all lost me back there

Do I leave it on balanced and roll or what

[earnest olive]

just tangential discussion

[potent portal]

Got a little sidetracked

[earnest olive]

use balanced

it doesn't affect you at all

it was a minor issue with ryzen 3000

you aren't on ryzen 3000

[brittle copper]

I like this guy

Everything this man says sounds well thought out

[little osprey]

crucified moose

[earnest olive]

lol im literally in a game of league while typing

[little osprey]

LOOL

invalid opinion

[earnest olive]

lowkey carrying the game too

[little osprey]

ur just jesus

walk on the haters

[little osprey]

aram moment

damn 19/4

i could never

gets a 3090 to play a game from 2009

[potent portal]

cries in Todd Howard

[earnest olive]

lol i had a 16 hour workday today starting from 5am i don't have the mental energy to play out a real game

i just wanna press buttons

[little osprey]

understandable

[earnest olive]

aram is perfect for that

[little osprey]

ur still destroying the other team tho

ew

[earnest olive]

they're not very good

[little osprey]

maybe im on their team

insta lock veigar 💀

[earnest olive]

more like gets a 3090 to play a game from 2009 and still mine at 110 mh/s

worth

[little osprey]

ok thats facts

you could run like 50 instances of league and still make more $/day mining than my 1650

[potent portal]

I tried doing that but my psu kept tripping

[little osprey]

daisy chain 1800w

:)))))

🔥

[potent portal]

You'd think a RM850x would be enough for a 3080ti and 5800X while I play eso and mine but nooooo

[earnest olive]

really? something else is wrong lol

my 850w has no issue handling my 3090 at 550w

[brittle copper]

Yeah that’s not right

[potent portal]

That's what I thought too but I just won't mine while I game ig

[brittle copper]

Should be plenty

[little osprey]

me and my 300w psu

[earnest olive]

i also have a 5800x

12 case fans

[little osprey]

a ram cooler

[earnest olive]

and enough rgb to light up a neighborhood

[brittle copper]

What GPU do you use to mine?

[earnest olive]

an internal monitor

[potent portal]

Currently the 3080ti, but I had a 3090 gimp edition before that

I hated everything about that 3090

That's a lie, it looked cool... Until you turned it on

[earnest olive]

lol

[potent portal]

Could barely get over 19k in time spy overclocked and vbios modded

[earnest olive]

everything about my 3080 was great except the overclocking potential lol

[little osprey]

💩 sample

got the dirt sample

[earnest olive]

beautiful card, very quiet

[potent portal]

Not even, it was a dual 8 pin

[earnest olive]

not as bad as fal'cie's 3090 though

mine was a 3079, his was a 3085

[brittle copper]

My 2nd 3080 stable +225W on core

[earnest olive]

my bad sample 3080 was hitting 18.9k

[brittle copper]

Way better than my launch day one

[little osprey]

silicon lottery moment

[earnest olive]

my 3080 peaked at +90/+435

[little osprey]

wut

[earnest olive]

my 3090 has a mediocre core but great vram

+135/+1625

[potent portal]

The day I got my 3080ti FE was magical. I picked random numbers for an overclock and got 21k time spy.

[earnest olive]

the 3090 I broke hit 22132

this one only hits 21881

[brittle copper]

I had a ASUS strix 3090 for 2 weeks

[earnest olive]

my 3080 peaked at 18906

[brittle copper]

Probably should’ve benchmarked it

[little osprey]

vram is what is better for mining , right? (i forgot)

[earnest olive]

yeah

[brittle copper]

Memory bandwidth

For ethash

[earnest olive]

I might be able to push it higher if I use liquid metal

[little osprey]

more stuff being done at once

[earnest olive]

I'm thermal throttling at 550 watts

[brittle copper]

I wouldn’t recommend it

[potent portal]

Imagine a modern HBM card in mining

[earnest olive]

I mean I've got plenty of experience with liquid metal

my laptop is running liquid metal on cpu and gpu

mines 24/7 cool and quiet

[brittle copper]

Yeah me too

Conductonaut

Phobya LM

[earnest olive]

but also I'm not sure if I want to take apart this 3090 again

[brittle copper]

Even my own gallium mix

[earnest olive]

already broke one lol

[potent portal]

Well now you know how to not break it again lol

[earnest olive]

mistakes can always happen

I knew how to not make the mistake when I made it

in hindsight probably wasn't a good idea to take apart a 3090 when I was sick

brain wasn't in the best state

[potent portal]

So what are the odds you make the same mistake twice?

[earnest olive]

I dunno, but feels like more than enough to make me not care so much about the last 300 3dmark points

[little osprey]

i have faith in u 🙏🏻

just dont do it after a 16hr work day

[potent portal]

Well I guess if you're fine with the temps it doesn't really matter

[brittle copper]

I’m in trouble

[little osprey]

cali summer is coming

[earnest olive]

i game on a 1800mhz @ 825mV undervolt and it chills at 60C at 50% fans

[little osprey]

temps will soon be 📈

[potent portal]

Oh God don't remind me

[brittle copper]

Oh you’re here too?

[earnest olive]

not gonna lie, can't tell the 10% fps difference between 270W and 480W

[little osprey]

no, ive experienced it tho

[brittle copper]

NorCal or SoCal?

Ooooh

[little osprey]

im in seattle

rain like every day

[potent portal]

Norcal here

[earnest olive]

losing 10% fps to go from 480w to 270w seems super worth it to me

[brittle copper]

Same

[little osprey]

big brain meetup

[brittle copper]

I’m at the Nvidia campus in Santa Clara

[potent portal]

Oh nice

I'd love to visit there someday

[brittle copper]

Oh I work at the Cisco campus a couple miles north, I’m just here hanging out with some friends that work the swing shift at Nvidia

I might join their CUDA team when my Cisco contract ends

We’ll see

[potent portal]

When you're doing high fps sure, but if you're doing 4k at barely 60 average fps dropping the power limit will hurt

[brittle copper]

Uh

Oh wait nvm

[earnest olive]

good thing I don't game at 4k

unable to notice the difference between 135 and 150 fps at 1440p

[brittle copper]

Jesus Christ

It’s freezing outside

[little osprey]

How cold is that

-97° Salamheit

[rose torrent]

it was 48 degrees lol

[little osprey]

That’s warm af

[rose torrent]

not for a texan it aint

[little osprey]

Lol

[mossy venture]

It was 46 degrees this morning, and I was thankful for that lmao

Expected it to be below 30

[earnest olive]

wish it would be -60

I wouldn't be happy but my computers would

overclock go brr

[fossil cedar]

Wich inturn would make you happy cuz big number = dopamine. The circle of life

[earnest olive]

true

[untold vessel]

Would ~$300 be better spent on upgrading my 16GB of 3200Mhz CL16 RAM to 32GB of 3600Mhz CL14 RAM, or be better spent on (saving $100-$200 more and:) upgrading my i5-11400f + B560 Motherboard to a i5-12400f + New Generation motherboard

[fossil cedar]

no, 3600 cl14 is not worth 300$, if you want 32gb go 150$ 3600c16

Whats the rest of the system

[untold vessel]

I see

[untold vessel]

I’m upgrading that $999.99 deal from Newegg

[fossil cedar]

Dont

[untold vessel]

Don’t upgrade at all?

[fossil cedar]

Assuming 3060 + 11400 pc

[untold vessel]

Yes 3060 + 11400f

[fossil cedar]

best upgrade to it for 300 is getting the 1100 3060 ti open box or 3060ti 1300 non open box

Maybe a better case/cooler

[untold vessel]

I’ve already purchased it

[fossil cedar]

Return it or dont upgrade it lol

[untold vessel]

Welp

[untold vessel]

Why so

[fossil cedar]

maybe 32gb if you use more than 80% of ram

[fossil cedar]

Good the way it is

[untold vessel]

Is this system even worth upgrading

[untold vessel]

Oh thank god I thought for a second it was doodoo altogether

When should I be looking at upgrades; A year from now?

[fossil cedar]

Not until 40 series unless you can do 3060 + cash upgrade

[untold vessel]

Should I be getting the 4000 series when it comes out?

Oh oh I see

So selling my 3060 + some cash for someone else’s GPU?

[fossil cedar]

Maybe upgrade case if its not mesh

Ye

[untold vessel]

What precisely is mesh

[fossil cedar]

the stuff with holes im it

in

[untold vessel]

Wait lmao, I mean to say what should I look for in a quality mesh

[untold vessel]

P300A? Corsair 4/5000 Airflow?

[untold vessel]

When the 4000 series comes, would I have to probably get a new CPU, Mobo, PSU, and others? Might I just buy an entirely new PC?

[fossil cedar]

Id go cougar mx330 with current prices for budget, lian li 215 for more premium

[fossil cedar]

New psu possibly

Rest would be fine

[untold vessel]

I see

What PSU do you recommend

I guess we’re getting into more nice to haves now

[fossil cedar]

Depends

[untold vessel]

Any super quiet recommendations?

[fossil cedar]

All psus are innaudible over case and gpu fans

[untold vessel]

I see

How does one quiet down a case and GPU

Fabric muffling?

Or are there versions built to be silent

[fossil cedar]

Airflow and not having a fan curve not very audible but also not torturing your cpu/gpu

[jagged ember]

basically, experimentally

can also turn on 0db PSU fan mode

[fossil cedar]

tbf only on some psus and kinad dumb, fan will only spin if it needs to

andddd they left ;-;

[little osprey]

Lol

[restive halo]

@fossil cedar What do you think I could sell this for? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n6Ztgb

[fossil cedar]

sheeesh where did you find a 300$ 6600

id say you could sell that for emm 1.2k if youre lucky

[restive halo]

@fossil cedar https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09S1GCLYF/ref=sw_img_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

[fossil cedar]

sheeesh thats a steal

thats gonna sell quick

[mossy venture]

i love my gpus being steak

[fossil cedar]

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[mossy venture]

hmm

whats the power usage of a 6600?

my partners 3400g build is calling...

@fossil cedar

[mossy venture]

doesnt work

[restive halo]

sold out

[mossy venture]

did you actually buy it yet?

[restive halo]

I bought one

[mossy venture]

because whenever i atc it puts two protection plans into my cart

[restive halo]

yeah it was not doing that originally

back up tp 485 now

Sorry they went fast. It was allowing you to buy 4 max

[humble fossil]

hi

how do I make sure that the RAM is compatible with the laptop?

[fossil cedar]

whats the laptop?

[humble fossil]

Asus rog stirx g15 Ryzen 5 RTX 3050

[fossil cedar]

what ryzen 5?

[humble fossil]

Ryzen 5600H

[fossil cedar]

can you send me your model number?

[earnest olive]

any ddr4-3200 1.2v sodimm should be fine

your laptop has 2 slots

so you can do 2x8gb, 2x16gb, 2x32gb

lower speed is compatible but you'd be crippling your whole machine

so strongly recommend getting ddr4-3200

did your laptop come with 1x8gb?

@humble fossil

[stoic island]

From glance at manual, seems like 2 non-soldered slots for ram sticks

[earnest olive]

yes

I was gonna say if it came with 1x8 just add another 1x8 3200mhz

[stoic island]

Aight

[rustic mortar]

I am struggling to pick one among the 2 builds can anyone help me with some suggestions on which maybe the best or if i can change anything among that to make it more efficient.

1. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wjFzY9 build for 1440p gaming using 3060ti

2. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4fT8Y9 was wondering if anyone heard about this inno3d graphic card company, have decided to go for first option and then saw this 3070ti from this company for like 200$ cheaper than other companies at my place

[little osprey]

Lol, inno3d?

[fossil cedar]

are you in the US, whats your budget and yes inno3d make decent gpus

[fossil cedar]

they dont sell in us afaik

[little osprey]

yeah i havent seen any around

[rustic mortar]

from India prices are kinda way out of proportion but 🙂 some nice indian people from the community helped me pick some parts for cheap

[fossil cedar]

ahh that makes sense, guessing Rawr helped you the other day?

[rustic mortar]

aye ^^

gave lots of nice links for cheap parts

[fossil cedar]

id go with the 12600k no matter which build, and the 3060 ti or 3070 ti, personally i would go 3060 ti, as its only like ~12% less perf than a 3070 ti

[rustic mortar]

aah ok was just worried as i cant upgrade for next 4years till my college is done will 3060ti be decent enough till then for 1440p stuff i am not expecting for ultra settings i am fine with medium graphics too

[fossil cedar]

yeah that should be good

[rustic mortar]

😄 thanks sooo much for the info will just go for the frist option then 😄

[fossil cedar]

no problem

[compact jackal]

Check this out on @Newegg: ABS Master Gaming PC - Windows 10 Home - Intel i5 11400F - GeForce RTX 3060 Ti - 16GB DDR4 3000MHz - 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali583/p/N82E16883360218?Item=N82E16883360218&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-218-_-03162022

can this pc change rgb colors

[fossil cedar]

The cpu cooler yes, the case no

But that's a bad case and meh price

[fossil cedar]

I'd get this, way better case, you can save 100$ https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali565/p/N82E16883360195

Only difference is 500gb ssd instead of 1tb, but for 80$ you could buy an additional 1tb ssd

[raven saffron]

Hello all, my friend is looking for a good a full tower case with a 5.25 bay in it do you all have any suggestions. Thanks in advance.

[fossil cedar]

The phanteks enthoo lineup

[royal dagger]

So I got a msi b450 tomahawk max with a 5600x and a rtx 2060 for my first build. I tried first post and it said I had a cpu error as expected, tried a bios update did all the steps for that and pushed the flash, usb led flashed then the bios flash led flashed red three times then stopped. What do I do?

[compact jackal]

i bought a different one

[fossil cedar]

Enjoy

[vague oracle]

Yo @fossil cedar you like my friend’s pcpp list he put together? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g4G7W4

[restive halo]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079HGN5QS/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_GSA28XSK67FPGT7M68SC?psc=1

Fully modular 750W FOR $74

[frigid night]

He's just future proofing with that psu lol

[glossy gale]

I've built computers in the past but that was before even SATA HDD. Would someone be able to tell me if I can use 3 https://www.newegg.com/samsung-1tb-980/p/N82E16820147804?Item=N82E16820147804 with this motherboard? https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-z690-e-gaming-wifi/p/N82E16813119512?Item=N82E16813119512

[stoic island]

To start, why not a single 2tb drive plus something extra instead of having 3 individual 1tb drives?

A bit of a weird use case

Compatibility wise, it would work, but I would say there's better ways of going at it.

[glossy gale]

Just wanted to keep stored files separate from the main drive. I would even be willing to reduce the size of the main drive cause its clearly overkill

[stoic island]

I mean, it's just nicer to have everything on a single drive, extra space for upgrades later and all, and you can make multiple partitions on the same drive if you want to keep things separate

[glossy gale]

Just wanting to do vid editing and in past experience its always good to save stagnant files in another drive

okay

[stoic island]

It's just that you can get a 2tb mp33 for 170$, and if you want to stick to sammy drives, 2tb 970 evo plus is 200$

mp33 a bit worse drive, evo plus is a better drive.

[glossy gale]

Okay, thank you so much for the recommendation. I will check that out and move forward

[strong raft]

Personally like a small boot drive separate from other drives. If need/want, could easily deal w/ reinstalling & have much less data to worry about. Although, most 500GB ssds have a somewhat high GB/$

[turbid tusk]

Hi guys just upgraded to a z690 from a 390 now my NVMe isn't booting. It shows in boot but not in hard drives

[mossy venture]

I think I'm sick

[obsidian wigeon]

that list is a joke

[mossy venture]

I cant tell if you're calling it bad or it was made as a joke

[obsidian wigeon]

im calling it bad

it's terrible

[frank stirrup]

do the build i sent u instead tbh

or at least dont buy that ram, ssd or cpu cooler

i gave u better alternatives

[rustic mortar]

🙂 ok thanks

[strong raft]

32GB of ballistix 3200c16 is currently $113 on Amazon btw.

[frank stirrup]

if ur telling him its no use

he indian

but nice deal

[strong raft]

Ah.

[reef moss]

Any chance someone could build me a list for around 800 bucks. For gaming mainly, running modded Minecraft. I don't require RGB or anything like that preferably newer parts

I would appreciate it greatly

[humble fossil]

there is tow model 1 is 8gb total and another one is 16gb total

[humble fossil]

https://www.jarir.com/sa-en/shop-by/asus-rog-strix-g15-laptops-564093.html

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YJMq4s

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3d9sZw

[reef moss]

oh

woah

[plucky timber]

Top link is the 800$ one
bottom is the 600$ one

i'm kinda waiting for a second opinion on the 600$ one

[reef moss]

oh theres no gpu

[plucky timber]

none of them has a dgpu

they both run on igpu

[reef moss]

oh yeah thats the issue lol

[plucky timber]

wait oops i put a H board there

[reef moss]

lemme see what I have right now

[plucky timber]

imma edit the listing

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dPXgwc edited 600$ build

[reef moss]

I have a NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 right now Imao

[plucky timber]

hmm

could you possibly recycle the parts

and use in the new build

[reef moss]

Maybe

Probably

[tight sorrel]

try find 3600 cl16 memory. 3600 cl18 is not worh it

[reef moss]

oh its not?

Im tryna build a minecraft pc right now for 800 bucks lol

[tight sorrel]

yeah, its a bit garbo

[reef moss]

I dont know what parts to use

[plucky timber]

it is a tad bit more expensive but should be fine

[tight sorrel]

might as well get 3200cl 16, same perf

[reef moss]

Cheap is the goal as of now

[plucky timber]

actually the 3600 ram is for igpu

[reef moss]

Cheap but quality lol

[plucky timber]

BUT

if you have a 1030

and you can use that in the new build

we can bump down the price

[reef moss]

I think the 1030 is garbage isnt it

[plucky timber]

not really

[reef moss]

Oh I thought it was

[plucky timber]

if it's better than the igpu then you might as well use that

[reef moss]

whats an igpu lmao

I honestly know nothing

[plucky timber]

integrated gpu

it's basically a gpu inside your cpu

[reef moss]

oh

[plucky timber]

hm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9O5xjWnxqo

it seems the 1030 outperforms it by a lot

[reef moss]

Oh sick

[plucky timber]

depending on title ofc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H1B7ibjJZg

[reef moss]

just Modded minecraft

and some roblox

[plucky timber]

here's a GN review since he's a more reliable source

hmmm

[reef moss]

Mainly modded minecraft

[plucky timber]

that could really bump the price down

[reef moss]

Alright

So just use the Graphics card I have now

?

[plucky timber]

yep

[reef moss]

and dont buy the XFX

[plucky timber]

probably just wait for better gpus to come out

that's worth your money

[reef moss]

Alright so lets make a new parts list I guess haha

How much does that bring the price down?

Using the GPU I have now

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rHGWDq

604.92$

prices may vary depending on where you are buying from

but

you could go for a better cpu

but that would bump up the price by 200-250$ so

the psu is a bit overkill but if you want to put a better gpu in the pc in the future then you don't have to buy a new one

[reef moss]

Hm

[plucky timber]

well depending on the gpu ofc

higher end gpus like the 3070 would not be a great idea on this psu

they draw a lot of power

[reef moss]

im sticking with 1030 for now

So thats the final build then?

[plucky timber]

hm

let me get a second opinion

[reef moss]

Sure thing

[fast dirge]

Does anyone know what motherboard is in this: DELL Optiplex 9010 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078WGWZ1X/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_APJWMVC9N7NSNN5K5KF2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[earnest olive]

a dell motherboard lol

why?

you need a replacement?

[fast dirge]

I want to put a graphics card in it

[earnest olive]

that doesn't depend on the motherboard

what graphics card?

[fast dirge]

The cheapest possible card that will run Photoshop/Lightroom/capture One

[earnest olive]

power supply should be a bigger issue than motherboard

[fast dirge]

And output to 4k while doing so

You think power will be an issue for a gpu for pshop etc ..?

[earnest olive]

gt 710 can do 4k 30hz

[fast dirge]

Think power ok for that?

[earnest olive]

you'll want to step up to a 1030 for 4k60, should support multiple 4k60 displays as well

yes

power supply is mainly an issue if you wanted to put in a gaming card with external power connectors that the dell psu doesn't have

[humble fossil]

there is tow model 1 is 8gb total and another one is 16gb total

[earnest olive]

so which one do you have

[fast dirge]

I don't even really know what resources those apps are hungry for. Capture One runs on the base machine, just pretty slow

[earnest olive]

productivity apps tend to scale with as much power as you can afford to give them

[fast dirge]

That helps, ta 😊

[humble fossil]

I will buy

[earnest olive]

realistically you're limited to a slot powered 75w gpu in that optiplex

[reef moss]

mushroom I ask of you a huge favor when you are done helping him

wait nvm

my b

[fast dirge]

I wanna output to two displays ultimately I guess. I output to a 4k tv @ 1080 right now, but I'll be getting a 4k monitor for editing. Can I have them both plugged into a 710 if I have one turned off? I won't need to run them both at once

[earnest olive]

so the most powerful gpu you could put in that pc is an RTX A2000

[fast dirge]

That's fair, I appreciate you telling me that limitation 🙂

[earnest olive]

yes, as long as you have the appropriate display outputs (or an HDMI switcher)

I'd consider going a bit higher end than a gt 710, 30hz is pretty miserable

[fast dirge]

I'm actually using display port to HDMI atm

[earnest olive]

you can find used gt 1030s on your local marketplace for $40-50 sometimes

could be a good solution for you

[fast dirge]

And rtx a2000?

[earnest olive]

so you plan to buy 8gb and upgrade?

[fast dirge]

That's a good price aye!

[earnest olive]

well RTX A2000 is pretty expensive

[fast dirge]

Thanks for the help love 😊

[humble fossil]

what do you suggest ryzen 5 rtx 3050 8gb plus upgrade or ryzen 7 rtx 3050 ti 16gb

[humble fossil]

idk

[earnest olive]

more like $700

it's basically the professional version of the RTX 3060 but clocked down to stay within 75W

I stated that more as a "this is the theoretical maximum for your PC" than an actual recommendation

[earnest olive]

price difference?

[humble fossil]

there is a 50% discount on ryzen 5 rtx 3050

[fast dirge]

Fair cop lar, thank you 😊.

[earnest olive]

so yeah for your use case I'd look for some used gt 1030s

should allow you to drive 2 4k displays at the same time if you wish

and provide some slight graphics acceleration if your workloads benefit from that

do try to find the gddr5 version over the ddr4 version if possible, as the ddr4 version is much slower despite still being called gt 1030

[earnest olive]

...so what's the price difference

[humble fossil]

530$ difference

@earnest olive

[earnest olive]

for that much I'd just buy the 3050 and upgrade it with 1x8gb ddr4-3200 sodimm

[humble fossil]

are these ram compatible? Corsair Vengeance Performance SODIMM Memory 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL22 Unbuffered for 8th Generation or Newer Intel Core™ i7, and AMD Ryzen 4000 Series Notebooks

[humble fossil]

ok thanks, are these ram compatible? Corsair Vengeance Performance SODIMM Memory 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL22 Unbuffered for 8th Generation or Newer Intel Core™ i7, and AMD Ryzen 4000 Series Notebooks

[earnest olive]

just buy a 1x8gb

please don't ping me I need to sleep now

[humble fossil]

i think it is better to match the type and speed of the ram

ok sorry

[obsidian wigeon]

nah

laptops doesn't care too much about mismatched sticks

just make sure timings and speed matches and it's fine

which is usually just c20-c22 anyway

[limber oyster]

Question, will water cooling my CPU and GPU reduce the amount of heat that exits my case?

Cause rn it's like turning on a freaking furnace in 80° weather

[vague oracle]

If anything it will increase the heat

Coolers move the heat from the component to outside of the PC case

Better PC cooling= hotter room

[limber oyster]

Darn

[humble fossil]

how do I make sure that the RAM is compatible with the laptop?

[limber oyster]

Make sure if its ddr3 or ddr4

That's really it

And make sure it's SODIMM

DIMM is desktop, SODIMM is laptop

[humble fossil]

ok thx

[limber oyster]

👍

[fossil cedar]

That made me wheezy so i fixed it
It's like 100$ more but could drop to 12400f
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dXpq4s

[tight sorrel]

solid build.

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/lana-del-rey-obviously-duh-like-duh-gif-3562074

XD

[humble fossil]

Pato sorry for being late yesterday

[fossil cedar]

No worries, someone else was able to help, i was asleep anyway

[humble fossil]

np

[fossil cedar]

Orange mushroom already answered lol, he is also very knowledgeable

[humble fossil]

this server is the best support for pc hardwear and software Thank you all

[earnest olive]

by type do you mean brand?

brand doesn't matter

that laptop is going to be using a 1x8 ddr4-3200 sodimm guaranteed

so as long as you put in any 1x8 ddr4-3200 sodimm (make sure it's rated for 3200 @ 1.2V) it will be a perfect match

[earnest olive]

[humble fossil]

yes

[earnest olive]

yeah brand doesn't matter at all

trust

I just pulled out a mismatched ram kit from my mom's laptop as she's getting a new one

she's been using two different brand ram sticks for a year

same speed = no problem

[humble fossil]

ok

[earnest olive]

people who say mixing different ram is bad are correct when overclocking is involved, but this doesn't matter for the majority of laptop ram

basically only MSI lets you overclock laptop ram

[frank stirrup]

a note to this xmp is oc too so anything above jdec is an oc

which is why its an issue on desktops

[mossy venture]

Yeah, xmp on desktop with two mismatching kits corrupted my windows

[earnest olive]

also why I said make sure it's rated for 1.2v because that means no overclocking needed to reach the rated speed

[humble fossil]

Does the ram come at full speed in the laptop

[frank stirrup]

huh

[humble fossil]

like desktop sometimes you if you want full speed to ram you have to bios to xmp

[frank stirrup]

xmp is oc

and ram oc isnt a thing on laptops really

the whole discussion has been this

lol

[humble fossil]

..

[frank stirrup]

it runs at the speed it says it runs at

idk if thats what u mean?

[humble fossil]

that’s what I mean

[humble fossil]

i mean sometimes the reply is fast

[fossil cedar]

[bold prism]

Guys question about the power supply

I have 2 cpu cables for my motherboard but my power supply only has 1 8 pin slot for it

What should I do?

[frank stirrup]

plug in the one you have

and ignore on screen prompts for the second one

you dont need it

[bold prism]

Oh I wasn’t sure

I have a 12th core cpu I still only need one?

[frank stirrup]

yes

[bold prism]

Ok thanks

[frank stirrup]

unless u plan to overclock using ln2 (even then its not really necessary) 2nd cpu plug is unecessary

[bold prism]

Ok

[earnest olive]

if your mobo doesn't have a second 8pin, its vrms are not powerful enough to need it

the only time you ever need more than 1 8-pin is when when you're doing sub ambient overclocking

[bold prism]

Ok thanks for the heads up

Is this cable required?

[earnest olive]

do you have a molex powered device?

just plug in what needs to be plugged in and ignore what you don't need okay?

[tawny wren]

Hi, I have an old Mac internal 50 pin SCSI HD. Is there a SATA adapter cable I can use to access my old data. Newegg said to check here for possible help..... Thanks and happy St. Patty day.

[earnest olive]

https://www.macworld.com/article/223287/how-to-recover-data-from-an-old-scsi-drive.html

maybe this will help

[jagged ember]

ew molex

only use if you have stuff that requires a molex connector, like orange said before

[bold prism]

Alright thanks

[tawny wren]

Thank you very much!!! 😊

[earnest olive]

np hope it helps

[white flame]

has anyone dealt with and found a fix for the LCD screen on the Aorus 3080 master rev 3.0 graphics cards? i scoured reddit and tried everyones fix to no permanent fix with RGB fusion/aorus engine

i got it working for a day and then the next day when i booted up, it was gone

[fossil cedar]

Download app centre, you can uninstall after but it just installs the dependencies needed

[white flame]

ok thank you

[white flame]

you wouldnt happen to have a link?

[fossil cedar]

Google gigabyte app centre

[white flame]

fasho fasho

[white flame]

that didnt work. rgb fusion still not detecting my card. im on the most recent versions of aorus engine and rgb fusion and the most recent driver from nvidia

[formal girder]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RjTdXy so was given a task of doing a PC build but the budget is $1800 max and there is already an ssd that they have but any suggestions or is this a good list

[mossy venture]

worse cpu better gpu

actually most of it should be changed, ill do one after this game

[formal girder]

The list is for gaming and work

And streaming

[mossy venture]

you happen to be near a microcenter?

[formal girder]

Nope

Best buy yes

I'd have to travel two states to go to the nearest one

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KrZgwc imo

vram might get a bit hot in that case i will say

since its not the 5000d airflow

and if he wants more storage, get the x300 4tb

[formal girder]

Ight

Also the vram temps won't suffer I have the same case and a 3090

[restive halo]

Finished the 5700g build. Just waiting on the gpu now

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QY63bK

[formal girder]

A 360 fits in a 4000D?

[fossil cedar]

yes

in the front

[formal girder]

Hmm

If I would've known that I would've done the same for mine instead of the 5000d

Oh wait I did 5000D cause of the front io

[brittle copper]

He’s lying to you

[brittle copper]

It “fits in the most obsolete way possible” meaning that it WILL NOT fit in push/pull and if you run it stock with 3 fans, it entirely defeats the purpose of buying the 4000D airflow

But if you have the old 4000D then it is what it is

[formal girder]

I have a 5000d myself

[brittle copper]

That is a much better purchase

[formal girder]

Tho I do like the tinted tempered glass panel with the black version of the 5000d

[fossil cedar]

Lol mo I'm not

Push pull does maybe a 1c difference

And not expected lmao

Lol the point of buying the airflow is mesh

Not the 2 mediocre fans

[brittle copper]

You don’t honestly believe that do you?

[formal girder]

Is push pull like fans pulling air through rad and pushing into case? I always get lost with the config names

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[stoic island]

I mean, we have data from ek-aio elite testing from various reviewers as well as some GN testing iirc

[fossil cedar]

Push pull rad would be fans on both sides of the radiator

[formal girder]

Oh

I'll stick to my setup

[fossil cedar]

Which is not how your expected to run and it really makes minimal difference

[stoic island]

Elite to normal ek-aio being 2c difference sounds to me like not worth 3 extra fans

And the elite gets a better pump too iirc

Should also be testing just for push/pull vs only push or pull on the same aio too

And yea upgraded pump from normal ek-aio too

The pump inside the CPU block is based on the company's SPC series and has seen an upgrade for this release.

[brittle copper]

The EK Vardar fans on the EK 360 Al already the HIGHEST static pressure, airflow, and RPM fans on the market other than noctuas industrial fans. It hit the diminishing return ceiling way before they added the other 3

[stoic island]

So basically, we agree push pull doesn't matter there

And in reality, no one does good fan testing tbh

GN hasn't given us any good data yet

[formal girder]

I still have to install the 5 arctic p12 PWM in my case but too lazy to actually do it

[brittle copper]

I lost 11 C by putting my liquid freezer 420 in push pull

[stoic island]

How do we know that's not due to something else

[brittle copper]

The P14s on those have much lower static pressure rpm and airflow than the ek vardar fans

[brittle copper]

it was done at 260W/ 1.35V via HWINFO

5.2 all p core

4.0 all e core

[stoic island]

Fan speed and pump control?

Room temperature control?

Heat saturation?

Run to run variance?

[brittle copper]

100% fan speed and pump was 100% via arctics pump mechanism that we found about yesterday

[stoic island]

No offense, but I don't trust your own or my own methodology, so I prefer to see what third party reviewers get

[brittle copper]

There is a single PWM header that controls the Vrm fan,RADIATor fans, and pump speed

Arctic reported that the pump will always run at 100% speed if the PWM is set to 40% or more

[brittle copper]

That’s fine

[bold prism]

Any suggestion to why my led fans aren’t lighting up?

[brittle copper]

Disconnection from daisy chain was my problem

When that happened

[bold prism]

What’s a daisy chain

[brittle copper]

Oh no

[bold prism]

The fans are working just the lights aren’t

[stoic island]

The lights take a different cable.

[mossy venture]

did you plug the argb plugs in?

[bold prism]

I plugged it into the jrainbow thing I think

[brittle copper]

Are your A-RGB fan cables daisy chained?

[bold prism]

I’m not sure lol

Is that the cable?

[brittle copper]

Basically can you connect one fan to another?

[bold prism]

No I don’t believe so

[brittle copper]

Via a cable that looks like that one?

Oh ok

Is that cable directly connected to a fan or a hub?

[bold prism]

Wait idk what this is

[brittle copper]

Uhh

[bold prism]

Didn’t know that was there

But it’s connected to that thing

[brittle copper]

So it’s connected to that

[bold prism]

Yea

[brittle copper]

And it’s going straight into your motherboard?

[bold prism]

Yes

[brittle copper]

Okay so it’s case lighting

[bold prism]

Yep

[brittle copper]

Are the fans in the Front connected to that thing?

[bold prism]

No it is not

I have this thing it plugged in to anything

[stoic island]

Some random guy's testing, oh well
https://www.reddit.com/r/watercooling/comments/av6fbr/tested_pushpull_with_2_different_fans/

[bold prism]

It’s not plugged into anything

[stoic island]

Might want to plug the fan into that

Assuming something like p500a, it's fan -> fan -> fan -> case thing -> mobo

Might also take sata power too, check if there's another cable that needs to be plugged in

[unique haven]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/S1ppy108/saved/#view=Rc6rMp

Can anyone check out my build and see what they think?

[stoic island]

Permission denied, list is not public

[unique haven]

Oh

How do i make it public then?

[stoic island]

Edit details, unclick the private box

[brittle copper]

Sorry I’m driving to work right now, Lisa Su and Gregorio might be coming to the lab today

And I’m late

[unique haven]

There

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/S1ppy108/saved/#view=Rc6rMp

[stoic island]

Do you already have the 980?

[unique haven]

Nope not yet

[stoic island]

Where's the price from?

[unique haven]

FaceBook Market Place

Though i heard thats not a very good place to buy from

[stoic island]

As long as you can verify you're getting what you're asking for, it's fine

[unique haven]

Thanks

[stoic island]

Do you have any part of that already?

[unique haven]

No i just wanted to see if the build would be good since its my first

[stoic island]

To start, I'd go for 12100 with something like a pa120 and a b660 d4 board

[mossy venture]

mr111 you have any opinions on the monitor i posted in tech deals?

[stoic island]

Average 2x16gb 3200c16 ram is average, could leave as is if you feel like you need that ram

Lemme check

[mossy venture]

my wallet is crying and i cant buy it, but i think its a good deal

just dont know much about the monitor itself other than the general specs

[stoic island]

Looks like cheapo 1440p144 va panel, no good reviews

[mossy venture]

mm

do you think its a good deal at the sale price or should i take it down?

[stoic island]

I'd leave it until you get more info

Just a lack of info

[unique haven]

Would it be better to get 2x8 3600 ram?

[brittle copper]

What’s the price?

[brittle copper]

It would be best to get micron E die 3200 C16 ram

From a price /perf perspective

[unique haven]

I found 2x16 3600 for 130 so i think i might go for that

[brittle copper]

3600 C16?

[unique haven]

CL18

[brittle copper]

Oh 18

[unique haven]

Is that worse?

[brittle copper]

I mean yeah but it’s not bad

[unique haven]

I mean atleast its not a 3400

[formal girder]

Try to look for some 2x16 gb 3600mhz Cl16 from crucial ballistix

That's only if you want that higher mem frequency

[bold prism]

Do I need to plug this in?

[brittle copper]

It would probably save him a lot of money to get micron e die ballistix at 3200 cl16 and OC them to 3600 cl16

[fossil cedar]

the aio is a big waste of money, id go gammaxx 400/vetroo v5/id cooling se 224xt or peerless assassin for not much more - more future proof cpu wise and id get this power supply instead, just as good, 750w and cheaper https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tsbkcf/bitfenix-formula-gold-750w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-bp-fm750ulag-7r

[unique haven]

I mean this pc is mainly for just coding and light gaming

[formal girder]

True on that

[fossil cedar]

also id go for a team mp33 or something instead, the ssd is good but its not really balanced for your build if you get me

[unique haven]

Idk how to overclock though

Id probably mess it up

[fossil cedar]

thats alright, overclocking ram isnt for everyone

[unique haven]

Is it Fully modual?

[fossil cedar]

no but it doesnt matter

[mossy venture]

wait

no

i typoed

3600c18 is worse than 3200c16*

[unique haven]

I was just interested

[mossy venture]

sorry

[formal girder]

I wanna finna say bacca something didn't seem right lol

[unique haven]

its fine

[mossy venture]

lol

i find it funny that 3200c22 is worse than 2666c15

[formal girder]

Me bouta cry spending $600 on my ram to find out 3200 cl16 was better than my 3600 cl16

[fossil cedar]

• on intel maybe on amd no way

[unique haven]

But it only has one review?

[fossil cedar]

customer reviews mean little to nothing btw, actual review arcticles/videos are what matter

[unique haven]

Oh ok

also is this mother board ok?

Asus PRIME B560-PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

[fossil cedar]

yeah id personally tweak a few things but yeah, whats your budget?>

[stoic island]

I'd go 12100 and a b660 board

[unique haven]

I think my cap is 1,000

[unique haven]

Or do you mean for my motherboard?

[fossil cedar]

meant full pc

[unique haven]

oh so yeah 1k

[fossil cedar]

i would just do this tbh https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali569/p/N82E16883360199

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali625/p/N82E16883360290 or this if you dont want to stretch to 1k but its worth the extra 100

[vague oracle]

I ended up just putting together an 11400F build for him mostly because he only could do $1500 max and because I have a mobo I could give him for the 11400f

Everything else in the builds looks almost exactly the same except for a 3080

[unique haven]

I think ill stay with my build

Also i wanna see what its like to build it

[fossil cedar]

fair enough

[fossil cedar]

thing is at the 1k budget those prebuilt will whoop the DIY builds atm in perforance

[unique haven]

But im pretty sure mine could hold up pretty well

I have a friend with an older pc and it still works

[unique haven]

Thank you though!

[fossil cedar]

i mean yeah it will work but the other one is better

[vague oracle]

But like why spend money on something worse when you can spend the same and get better performance?

The building experience is fun and all but like it isn’t worth losing performance just to get that experience

[fossil cedar]

like you could do this if you really optimised it https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gfmV6r

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P4NJ8r actually you could get a 1tb ssd in instead

[unique haven]

Since i already got a case i think i could still get the aio

[fossil cedar]

that makes no sense but aight