building-and-recc-chat

[molten urchin]

Also... that processor is close to the spec for my gaming PC...

From passmark

[mossy venture]

look at 10400f vs 5600g

it isnt a hugely noticable difference

and if youre deadset on cpu perf, get a 12400f instead on the 12100f build

which is a good deal better than 5600g

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7DqNQ6 here

and if you dont feel like buying a used gpu, for the price this isnt the worst ive seen https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Mc7G3C/sapphire-radeon-rx-6500-xt-4-gb-pulse-video-card-11314-01-20g

[molten urchin]

I found an rx6500 on newegg for about that price already. I was going to go with NVidia, but this one has close to the spec I want, and its a little cheaper than the NVidia card

[mossy venture]

this is the cheapest 6500xt that is currently in stock

anywhere

[molten urchin]

So... basically these two...

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-12400f-core-i5-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118358?Description=i5-12400&cm_re=i5-12400-_-19-118-358-_-Product&quicklink=true

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119541?Description=Asus PRIME B660M-A D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard&cm_re=Asus_PRIME B660M-A D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard-_-13-119-541-_-Product&quicklink=true

Instead of...
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-5600g-ryzen-5-5000-g-series/p/N82E16819113683?Item=N82E16819113683

And whatever mobo is compatible with that?

[mossy venture]

i would get the whole parts list i linked, its a solid list thats well built, let me double check some prices tho

[molten urchin]

I think the one I found is new, and is only like $30 more... >_>

[mossy venture]

the one i linked is new...

[molten urchin]

Thought you said it was used

[mossy venture]

no?

i said if you dont feel like buying a used gpu

[molten urchin]

oh... I see... its out of stock

Ah... I misread

[mossy venture]

here https://pcpartpicker.com/list/djHpGL

im uncertain on the heatsink

admittedly the case is a bit ugly, but it has great airflow

[molten urchin]

the i5-12400 on newegg comes with a heatsink already

[mossy venture]

not a good one

[molten urchin]

hmm... micro ATX... I was going to go with full ATX, so it's easier to maneuver things around... I think I might actually have a couple of cases that are microAtx compatible... he also wants to do RGB stuff though... because he's 12, and likes shiny things... 😄

[mossy venture]

id suggest p360a digital if it wasnt a tight budget

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FP3mP6/phanteks-eclipse-p400a-digital-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec400atg_dwt if you want to spend the money on it

[molten urchin]

we already picked out this guy: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353213?Item=N82E16811353213

[mossy venture]

that case is a bit of a heater

as long as you get a decent heatsink for the cpu itll be fine though

but if you try to upgrade in the same case it might bite you in the ass later on

[obsidian wigeon]

i guess it's ok

[molten urchin]

only reason we wouldn't use the ones we already have is they are tiny, and don't have any glass (so RGB would be useless)

[obsidian wigeon]

rgb is purely optional tbh

[molten urchin]

Its true

[mossy venture]

its a 12yo kid

so

[obsidian wigeon]

but fair

[molten urchin]

to be clear... I'm not 12... my kid is 12... =p

[mossy venture]

if they have their mind set on something its set

[molten urchin]

LED's make everything better when you are 12... =p

Its like racing stripes... each one adds 5hp

[celest horizon]

I know a guy selling one, dm me

[molten urchin]

Looks like this is the ATX version of that board?

https://www.newegg.com/p/13-119-543

Its a little bit more, but I think it'll make it easier to assemble to get an ATX rather than a microATX

[obsidian wigeon]

it doesn't matter

it's just bigger really

[celest horizon]

i would avoid buying some cheapo board from a 3rd party seller when you can get a z690 for $180

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119508?quicklink=true

Oh I guess that's oos from newegg - but here https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=50001315 100007627 601394305&Manufactory=1315&Order=1&SrchInDesc=z690

[molten urchin]

I think I found most of the things on that list using the PCBuilder on newegg... except for the CPU cooler...

https://newegg.io/e931603

Still over $900 for the whole build... -_-

[tiny scaffold]

Does a cooler have to match your motherboard, I was having a hard time fitting my cooler to the back of my motherboard

[autumn wolf]

depending on the compatibility. the cooler should say what platforms its compatible with. if youre on a newer z690 board, you might have to buy an adapter depending on the cooler you bought

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[tiny scaffold]

Oh ok, I'll make sure to check

[molten urchin]

The only one that actually shows up for me with all the selections I made on newegg is this one: https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-c14s/p/N82E16835608073?Item=9SIA2F8H3B0432

[obsidian wigeon]

wuh?

that's weird

that cooler is for low profile stuff, and it's pretty expensive

[molten urchin]

Yup... thinking I might just stick with the one that comes in the box if those are the only two choices... >_>

[obsidian wigeon]

well

you don't have to get pc builder lol

just browse newegg and add stuff to cart

it's gonna end up being manually assembled anyway

newegg pc builder is very limited in choices

[tiny scaffold]

So this cooler should be compatible wit this cpu then?
Check this out on @Newegg: NZXT Kraken Z Series Z73 360mm - RL-KRZ73-01 - AIO RGB CPU Liquid Cooler - Customizable LCD Display - Improved Pump - Powered by CAM V4 - RGB Connector - Aer P 120mm Radiator Fans LGA 1700 Compatible https://www.newegg.com/nzxt-liquid-cooling-system-kraken-z/p/N82E16835146070?Item=N82E16835146070&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-35-146-070-_-03082022

Check this out on @Newegg: AMD Ryzen 7 3rd Gen - RYZEN 7 3700X Matisse (Zen 2) 8-Core 3.6 GHz (4.4 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 65W 100-100000071BOX Desktop Processor https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-3700x/p/N82E16819113567?Item=9SIAWKTDTA6023&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAWKTDTA6023-_-03082022

I was confused cause the other coolers say am4, but this one says a whole bunch of stuff and then am4, it confused me

[mossy venture]

3700x is worse than 5600x

and 12400f

[autumn wolf]

its compatible, there should be a bracket inside the box somewhere for you to put onto the cooler for amd

[tiny scaffold]

OK, I'll order it then. Appreciate you telling me this info, still figuring this building stuff out

[mossy venture]

did you alreadt buy the cpu?

[tiny scaffold]

I'll try a different cpu another time, I've had this one for a while

[mossy venture]

ahh

[molten urchin]

Yah, the pcbuilder tool just makes it easier to find compatible parts... seems like its not always that accurate though, which makes things... difficult... -_-

looks like its maybe this one I want then?

https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-rr-212s-20pc-r2/p/N82E16835103329

[spare socket]

yo is this good ? someone sent me this. its less expensive https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dzXMZw

[potent portal]

I'd get a b660 instead of h610 but otherwise looks fine

The msi pro b660-a is a good model for decent price

[spare socket]

"It's a 6900xt
A top-of-the-line GPU
with a budget cpu" "Your CPU will bottleneck im willing to bet"

someone said this to the build i sent

is it true

[potent portal]

12400 can keep up with a 6900XT just fine

Its performance is more comparable to a mid-tier older cpu like the 11600 or 5600X

[viral ore]

from a single core perspective it blows the 11600k out of the water tho

[lucid minnow]

I'm having trouble installing windows on a new pc

i keep getting this message reboot and select proper boot device

[torpid peak]

I got that on mine too

[spare socket]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/gpJBbK thoughts ?

[viral ore]

seems fine

6800xt for 835?

nb

[potent portal]

Even if that was usd that would be a good price for a 6800XT

[viral ore]

oh sheee

yeah its cad

i looked at all the other prices through the cad lens

[potent portal]

Probably want a better power supply and memory

[viral ore]

650 would be enough

3200 16 also seems fine, but yeah, could go for something faster

oh wait thats the 2018 rmx

the 2019 was a really good one i think

[potent portal]

The 2018 was still A tier but not GOLD

[vague oracle]

Really? 650w for a 6800xt and 12600k?

I thought 750w was the minimum recommended?

[potent portal]

Yeah that's feeling like a 750W for safety

[viral ore]

6800xt at like 320w peak, 12600k was like what, 180w peak?

yeesh 223w

still under 650 tho, plus considering its a decent psu to begin with

[vague oracle]

So that’s like 543w total so yeah I guess 650w would work

[viral ore]

nothin wrong with more tho

[potent portal]

6800XT isn't as spiky as 3080 but still spikes

[vague oracle]

I’m just annoyed with my 6800xt because one of 8 pin LEDs is burned out somehow

I wonder if I could get it replaced through microcenter

[potent portal]

Probably not unless you're within return window. They'll tell you to RMA it otherwise.

[vague oracle]

I do have a warranty on it with them but I’m not sure if that’s considered damaged enough to warrant a replacement

[spare socket]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dzXMZw thougths

[potent portal]

I'd ask them then

[potent portal]

Just a few edits https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/bwfV6r

You could probably get away with 750W if you really need to cut some more budget

If you go that route I'd do this https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/79tQzy/corsair-rmx-2018-750w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020179-na

[spare socket]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/c9ZWDq

this good ? also why need more Wattage ?

[potent portal]

Asrock and Intel don't get along

It WILL throttle your cpu at stock

[spare socket]

really ?

[potent portal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlXnkr8Ed9Y

https://youtu.be/r3o1Ebk_jCA?t=1330

[spare socket]

do i need to put a b660 instead of what i had originally

[potent portal]

H610 will cut your CPU and memory performance

[viral ore]

not for 12100-12400f

but of course even 12400f could potentially struggle, but if youre on a budget ur using stock cooler so

[spare socket]

i have a stock cooler ?

[potent portal]

The 12400 comes with one

[spare socket]

oh ok

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jd7MZw this good now ?

also someone said intel 660p instead NVME ? is that a good idea

[potent portal]

If it's cheaper sure

That looks ok to me

The A2000 is solidly in the "Gaming" tier of SSD

[spare socket]

So from everything u see on that llist everything is good to go ?

its 1k under budget so if u think theres something a little better...

[potent portal]

Yes it would be a pretty decent computer

You could save a few dollars on the power supply by doing one of the ones I recommended

[spare socket]

will i be able to run games at high FPS / graphics on 1440p ?

[potent portal]

Absolutely

[spare socket]

cool beans lets go

[potent portal]

If anything I'd spend some more on the case but I'm guessing you picked it for looks

[spare socket]

someone picked it out for me

idc about looks

[potent portal]

In that case I'd go for https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/pvdrxr/cooler-master-masterbox-td500-mesh-w-controller-atx-mid-tower-case-mcb-d500d-kgnn-s01
Or https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/bCYQzy/corsair-4000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011200-ww

[spare socket]

theyre better in what way ?

[potent portal]

Better airflow, which will keep that hot gpu running cooler and performing its best

[frank stirrup]

Ur a hot gpu

Gotteeem

[spare socket]

ok do u think u can change it to one of the ones you proposed ? this my build https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/cPBFtn

[potent portal]

Oh you added a monitor, one sec

[spare socket]

yeah

[potent portal]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/YXwD2m

[spare socket]

perfect

[potent portal]

I'd get a M27Q over that monitor personally, it's cheaper too

[spare socket]

is it ips ?

[potent portal]

Higher refresh rate and better colors out of the box

yes

[spare socket]

can u link ?

[potent portal]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/f2sMZw

[spare socket]

do u calibrate your monitors ?

[potent portal]

I don't have a professional tool for it but I do adjust the colors and such to my liking

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m27q

[spare socket]

thanks for everything bro

[potent portal]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/lg-27gl850-b-vs-gigabyte-m27q/912/19668?usage=3623&threshold=0.10

Happy to help

[spare socket]

final thing which motherboard do u think is best the one u proposed or this one @potent portal https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Z6ddnQ/gigabyte-b660m-ds3h-ddr4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b660m-ds3h-ddr4

[potent portal]

Technically the one I suggested, the MSI pro B660-a micro, is better and will support a cpu upgrade later. With the 12400, that DS3H is perfectly acceptable, and probably fine with a 12600 if you wanted to upgrade to that later.

[spare socket]

could u change it KEKW

[potent portal]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jcXMZw

I've seen testing of the msi board with a 12900k, and it stood up to the power requirement nicely

Anyway I'm off for the night, good luck

[spare socket]

thanks bro

[spare socket]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/yVjvnt what do u guys think ?

[frank stirrup]

no prices for anything

[spare socket]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jz2jyK this good ?

[frank stirrup]

No prices for anything

so cant really say

[spare socket]

its supposed to be there. its cad

the peope i send it too see it

[spare socket]

thats so weird

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jz2jyK

[frank stirrup]

i can see it now

wierd

[spare socket]

finally lol

[frank stirrup]

whats ur budget?

[spare socket]

3k CAD

[frank stirrup]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/gqxTBj

[spare socket]

did u just change CPU and CPU cooler ?

[cursive wharf]

Why KF on B660?

[frank stirrup]

e cores

wait

i forgor

12700 has e cores

12600 doesnt

💀

[frank stirrup]

go that cpu cooler and stick with the 12700

[spare socket]

can u redo it ? @frank stirrup

[frank stirrup]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jr2jyK

[spare socket]

tyyyy

[strong raft]

12700 doesn't have a non-K/KF model.

[frank stirrup]

does

[cursive wharf]

Incase of wanting z690
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZYy8Y9

Might be able to also get Ninja5 and replace fans with a P12 pack

[strong raft]

I stand corrected. could save almost $40 not doing the KF. Actually I partly was of thinking of the plain non-K/KF 12600 not having Ecores. Obviously a bit pointless when the full 12600K would be $230 right now. (disregard for 12700 shoppers)

[cursive wharf]

12700F expensive in CAN

$100 CAD more then KF

[fossil cedar]

I legit already did them a list

And they keep asking

[fossil cedar]

This board more spensiv than z690 ;-;

@spare socket
Something you can actually buy rn
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/hhY29r

[frank stirrup]

Tbh i thought u chose that board which is why it was in that list

[fossil cedar]

[bright dome]

finished the buikd, decided to wait for the better video card

posted pic in pic channel

this system is super quiet

thanks everyone pato rawr etc... for the help and advice

[fossil cedar]

You're welcome

[frank stirrup]

Glad we could help

[untold vessel]

Guys, what is better for gaming, specifically GTA V in 4K. 32GB (8GBx4) DDR4/3200MHz or, 16 GB (16GBx1) DDR5/4800MHz?(with plans to buy a second 16x1 DDR5 stick)

[fossil cedar]

Never only buy 1 stick, and ddr5 isn't worth it just get a 2x16gb kit of 3200mh cl16 or 3600mhz cl16 for a nicer kit

[untold vessel]

Why isn’t DDR5 with it yet, oh glorious Pato?

[fossil cedar]

Overpriced and not as good as good ddr4, like 3600mhz cl16

[untold vessel]

I see! Are you basically saying that most other computer components are not efficient enough to handle the raw power of ddr5?

[fossil cedar]

Nope, ddr5 isn't good enough yet and it's overpriced

[untold vessel]

I see, I see

[untold vessel]

Is there any other ddr4 more powerful than ddr4 3600mhz CL16?

[fossil cedar]

Uh yeah usually more expensive and/or meant for overclocking

[untold vessel]

What would you recommend?

I’m doing my first RAM upgrade today

The pc I made a while ago is boomin’

[fossil cedar]

What's the rest of your pc?

[restive halo]

So I had a build fall through and I am left with some parts. Any build recomendations so I can use these and make a little money?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t6tNQ6

[fossil cedar]

Can't just return them?

Especially the cooler

[stoic island]

Time to go hunting for a GPU

[restive halo]

no unfortunately

So my issue with GPU hunting is I have no idea what im doing or looking for as I almost never buy anything used

I found a 1070 turbo on Jawa for 265?

the cooler honestly if its not used its not used

[fossil cedar]

Jawa?

[restive halo]

https://www.jawa.gg/search?name=1070&category.id=6&page=1&price=0&price=30000&hideSold=true

[fossil cedar]

I mean can you return anything? Might be worth just returning

Uhh what country is that for?

I've never heard of it

[restive halo]

https://www.jawa.gg/

US

[restive halo]

the NVME was a deal and the PSU

[restive halo]

check it out

[fossil cedar]

[restive halo]

@fossil cedarhttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/nhzHhk

[fossil cedar]

Right well what's your budget for doing it up then?

[restive halo]

I can through $500 at it

If its possible to do it from the same site great if not I get it lol

[fossil cedar]

I'd probs do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8kNBbK

[restive halo]

Decent profit margin?

[fossil cedar]

Uhhhhh maybe

[restive halo]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QJdJ8r

[fossil cedar]

Case is bad, 5700g is bad value

[restive halo]

oh ok

[restive halo]

How much better is the 5700g?

[mossy venture]

It isn't

Its the same cpu, just two more cores (essentially, the other differences are just so minute it's really hard to tell)

The igpu is very similar, the single core is very similar

[spare socket]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jr2jyK any thoughts ?

[mossy venture]

We've given you about 15 lists at this point and every time have told you the same thing. I'm sorry but what we've said isn't going to change

And each time they're near identical

[restive halo]

adding a gpu down the line, would the differences be more substantial?

[cobalt prism]

Is there any way I could get help with my build

I think I’m doing everything right but nothing happens when I try to power it on. All I hear is a click from the psi and then nothing

[mossy venture]

Not really, not for gaming

The single core performance is very similar

[earnest olive]

5600x or 12400 is going to slap a 5700g

get a 12600K if you want to keep up performance after upgrading to a dgpu

AMD sacrifices half their cache on the APUs

intel does no such thing

5700g might have slightly better igpu but you'll be surprised how capable the UHD 770 is with tuned ddr4 and overclocking

[restive halo]

What's that build look like for $500 lol

[earnest olive]

i mean $500 is not great for a 5700g build either

i'm seeing $290 retail rn

[restive halo]

i was going to go down to a 5600

[earnest olive]

12600K has a lower retail than 5700g, although the mobo will be more expensive

[fossil cedar]

Seems like they have a 75$ b550 pro vdh wifi

[obsidian wigeon]

you can run b660 tbh

just no cpu oc

[earnest olive]

if your max budget is $500 then sure go for a 5600g in the mobo you already have

just be aware that it has the cpu perf of a 3600 for when you upgrade

[fossil cedar]

I would double check your front panel headers are connected correctly, if not what motherboard and cpu do you have? Also if the power supply is modular make sure the cables are in the correct end

[fossil cedar]

@spare socket already made about 2 or 3 for you mate

[earnest olive]

if i were you i'd just slap an older APU into that b550 then sell it and do a new build when you're ready for a dgpu

i'm not a fan of the 5600g/5700g

[fossil cedar]

They wanna sell for money

[earnest olive]

actually

[fossil cedar]

Cuz have some parts

[earnest olive]

i guess you'd have to check if your b550 has the unofficial support for 3200g/3400g

click from psu sounds like it's trying to power on and then immediately hitting some sort of protection

so i doubt it has anything to do with front panel headers

[cobalt prism]

The front panel headers are in correctly. I have a x570 motherboard and the ryzen 7 5800x . My psu is fully modular but I’m quite sure each side is in the right place

[earnest olive]

maybe something is shorted, or maybe something is just defective

pick up the pc and shake it gently, any loose screws? lol

[fossil cedar]

Ahh you may need to update tour bios then

[earnest olive]

i don't think bios update will make psu click and shut off

[cobalt prism]

I’m not getting any qled on the motherboard

[earnest olive]

just fail to post and sit there in limbo with fan spin

are fans spinning?

[fossil cedar]

Oh true forgot about click

[cobalt prism]

Not fam spin. I think the psu fan is on tho

[earnest olive]

think?

check

[cobalt prism]

Row

[earnest olive]

put your ear near it

if you can't hear anything tip the pc on its side and look

lol

[cobalt prism]

nothing

i only get the click if i hold the power btw

[earnest olive]

yeah, i am pretty sure it is triggering some kind of psu protection and shutting off

[earnest olive]

did you do this?

[cobalt prism]

no lol

[earnest olive]

well why not?

it's legitimate advice

[cobalt prism]

ah

[earnest olive]

if you dropped a loose screw somewhere it can absolutely prevent boot or worst case kill some components

[restive halo]

Is the switch on on the back of your case for the psu

[earnest olive]

clearly it is if the psu is making a clicking sound

[cobalt prism]

no loose screws, the only noise is the fans shaking around

[earnest olive]

alright

double check you didn't plug cpu power into your gpu or pcie power into your cpu?

[cobalt prism]

alr

[earnest olive]

also

if your psu is old enough to have a floppy connector, make sure you didn't get confused and plug that into a fan header or something

i have seen someone do that before

and yes, it will stop the system from booting

[cobalt prism]

these are all new parts

[earnest olive]

i mean.. i bought a brand new psu that had a floppy connector

just a bit older model for a very budget build

[cobalt prism]

i'll make sure

[restive halo]

Not necessarily. I have had a build where the psu clicked and would not turn on because of a issue with the psu. The switch had to be turned on and off a couple times before it would fully power on. Very rare case but who knows.

[earnest olive]

i don't remember what it was, some evga br i think

[earnest olive]

sounds like an RMA

anyways, seems like a stupid design flaw that floppy connector fits on a fan header. might make newbies think that it's for PSU fan control or something, lol

floppy connector is designed to supply power, fan header is NOT expecting to receive power

first time i saw it i actually had to google if it was for PSU fan control

never worked with a floppy drive before so never seen its connector

[fossil cedar]

[earnest olive]

dawid actually had a video where someone did that

iirc it fried the fan header but the rest of the system survived

[cobalt prism]

gpu is connected to pcie, cpu is connected to cpu, but it has an additional 4 pin attached from pcie

[earnest olive]

uhhh what

4 pin pcie?

[earnest olive]

O_O

4 pin pcie doesn't exist

[restive halo]

@earnest olive any way these are the parts I have that I was trying to use and make a flip to make a little money. The build I got them for he picked them out. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t6tNQ6

[cobalt prism]

it's 8 pin, i split it off

assuming that it would be fine

[obsidian wigeon]

what the

[earnest olive]

that's another cpu power cable lol

[cobalt prism]

oh ok

[earnest olive]

unless you... physically cut an 8 pin pcie in half?

did you?

[cobalt prism]

no

[earnest olive]

tell me you did not

please

okay

pcie connectors only come as 6, 6+2, or 8

[fossil cedar]

2 times the power

[cobalt prism]

ahhh

[earnest olive]

there is no such thing as 4-pin or 4+4 pcie

cpu comes as 4, 4+4, or 8

[fossil cedar]

Cursed

4 pin pcie when 😤

[cobalt prism]

so it was just another cpu then

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[earnest olive]

usually cpu power is labeled as cpu power and also keyed to prevent plugging it into the wrong place

but some people have managed to both ignore the label and force something where it shouldn't be

so you never know

[cobalt prism]

i see, well i plugged the additional cpu cable into pcie

[earnest olive]

wait..

[cobalt prism]

no

wait

[earnest olive]

man you are confusing me

[cobalt prism]

nvm

ignore my words

[earnest olive]

i was about to say seems your cables are correct but

where did you buy psu

[cobalt prism]

amazon, it's seasonic

[fossil cedar]

Please only put CPU into CPU

[stoic island]

4+4 is eps12v, 6+2 is pcie

[cobalt prism]

i did!

[earnest olive]

i'd start by buying a new psu and testing it

return old one if new one works

or

if you have a friend to borrow pc parts from, that's better

or any old spares lying around

[cobalt prism]

hmm

[earnest olive]

i'm suspecting psu first if your cables are all correct

[cobalt prism]

ahhhhh

[still roost]

Hax™#5840 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[earnest olive]

esp since psu is the one making the clicking sound and there's no loose metal causing a short

[cobalt prism]

waiit

big gooof, the cable to gpu is wrong way around

[fossil cedar]

What

[earnest olive]

well

better hope you did not fry your gpu

[fossil cedar]

Oh well there we go

[earnest olive]

must be not a very good psu design if it actually let you do that

[fossil cedar]

I feared cables wrong way round

[stoic island]

Shouldn't be possible

With the keying

[fossil cedar]

The 8 pin end should be in psu with 6+2 pin going into gpu

[restive halo]

Must have really jammed it

[earnest olive]

HULK SMASH

[cobalt prism]

?

they went in fine

[stoic island]

Like I mean it's literally trying to stick a square in a round hole

So if it went in fine it's in the right orientation

[cobalt prism]

it goes in fine both ways

...

[fossil cedar]

Uhh

[earnest olive]

yeah that's called bad design

[fossil cedar]

^^

[stoic island]

Uh

[earnest olive]

well designed psu will only let you plug it in the correct way

[restive halo]

💩

[fossil cedar]

Probs a seasonic fireboi i mean s12

[earnest olive]

inb4 "but seasonic is a good brand"

[cobalt prism]

yeah just checked, both sides went in with little force

rip me then

[stoic island]

What do you mean by both sides

[earnest olive]

so does it boot with the cable the right way

[stoic island]

Are you rotating it?

[cobalt prism]

checking rn

i'm not rotating the cable 180, i'm flipping ends

[earnest olive]

hopefully that click is the psu noticing something wrong and shutting off due to protection

12V going where 12V doesn't belong 🙂

[restive halo]

[earnest olive]

pray to whatever you believe in that your gpu didn't just fry

shortage is loosening up but definitely still here lol

[cobalt prism]

yeah i wayyy overpayed for my gpu

IT BOOTED

LETS GOOOO

thanks guys

[earnest olive]

nice

now go leave a 2 star review on that psu for letting you do that

and tell us the model so we know to avoid it

[cobalt prism]

I believe it's the Seasonic FOCUS PX-750

i spent quite a bit of time agonizing over this, thanks again

[stoic island]

Damn

[earnest olive]

oof, that's quite a good model, surprised it carries such a glaring design flaw

[stoic island]

I did not know seasonic was that bad with that kind of thing

I just assumed it would not have been keyed the same

[obsidian wigeon]

wow

seasonic with a glaring flaw on a platinum rated psu

lmao

[earnest olive]

well, at least the protections worked and his system didn't fry

[little osprey]

did he put eps 12v into pcie

[fossil cedar]

Nah wrong end of pcie into pcie

[little osprey]

[fossil cedar]

@flat cliff lets talk here

What's your budget in your local currency?

[flat cliff]

from 100 to 20

200*

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[flat cliff]

mainly i will use Microsoft and teams and some browsing for research
but they told me to take 8gh ram and nice storage size

[mossy venture]

Refurbished 1005g1 laptop maybe?

[flat cliff]

?

[fossil cedar]

@flat cliff I'd probably go with this
https://www.newegg.com/global/bh-en/natural-silver-natural-silver-with-a-vertical-brushing-pattern-hp-17-cp0007ca-home-personal/p/N82E16834273462

Assuming you're okay with refurbished?

[mossy venture]

Isn't the budget 200?

[fossil cedar]

200 Bahrain

[mossy venture]

Ah

[fossil cedar]

Yep

[mossy venture]

Silver apparently

Wait

Ag is silver right?

No

Gold

[flat cliff]

ok thank you

[fossil cedar]

Np

[flat cliff]

where i can see the warranty

[fossil cedar]

But you'll have uhh idk probs a year or 2 from hp directly if you ask one of their reps

[obsidian wigeon]

refurbs usually has 1-2 year of warrant ya

[flat cliff]

ok

thank u

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/products/ci/18818/N/4110474292?filters=fct_price%3A0..500%2Cfct_processor_7612%3Aintel-core-i3-dual-core-11th-gen%2Cfct_ram_965%3A8gb

is this ok ?

or this

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08W4PJC8J?ref=hdl_cht_gtpdp_all&th=1

i am comparing

between those 3

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

This is just a list don't see a specific one

[fossil cedar]

The newegg one is better

[flat cliff]

ok

thank u

[fossil cedar]

Np

[inland shell]

anyone ever considering Antec Striker case build, only do it if you hate yourself 😛

[outer blaze]

The deepcool macube 310 case is pretty solid. The window and back panel are magnetic and the rest are snaps. Super easy to open up and work on, a little tight on cable management though in the rear

[little osprey]

What’s a good chunky air cooler for 12600k?

Rn schythe fuma 2 is like $100 for some reason

[fossil cedar]

Thermalright Peerless assassin 120, the rgb one comes with the lga 1700 bracket i believe

[little osprey]

O thanks

[fossil cedar]

Np

[little osprey]

Wow only $50 for this chonker

[fossil cedar]

Yes it's

[fossil cedar]

Check it says lga 1700 tho, if it doesn't theres a 9$ bracket on Amazon

[desert gulch]

There's a %25 off coupon too

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Peerless-SE-Aluminium-Technology/dp/B09P4M4C7K/?th=1

Use this one

[strong raft]

Nice, making those nearly same price as the normal grey 1.

[desert gulch]

Ye

[warm pulsar]

Hey guys! I'm about to build my very first PC and i was wondering if there was anyone on that could maybe take a look at my PC build list to make sure that I'm not ordering any exploding PSUs or cases and whatnot lol

[stoic island]

Sure, paste the pcpp link if you have it

[warm pulsar]

While i do want it to perform well, i also focused a bit on aesthetics which is why I have the four sticks of ram and Karen aio

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jWPbjZ

[warm pulsar]

Thank you!

Kraken*

[stoic island]

Damn, z73 is 300$ now...

[stoic island]

How do you feel about the aesthetics of Galahad 360mm?

[little osprey]

im tempted.... this is for an m27q

[stoic island]

Performs better, and I personally think it looks better

[warm pulsar]

I actually found the kraken for a lot cheaper than that. I definitely considered getting the Galahad since I'm getting lian li fans to go with it

[stoic island]

Are you in the US?

[warm pulsar]

Yes

[stoic island]

Galahad is like 150$

[warm pulsar]

Interesting...

I might change that up

I think i ended up paying like 240ish for the kraken

[stoic island]

Looks like price still went up a bit so like 180$ for Galahad but still better than z73

What have you already bought?

[warm pulsar]

Not a whole lot. Gpu, mobo, kraken

I got the GPU and mobo from a shuffle a when back. Found the kraken for cheap

[stoic island]

If you're buying now, I would rather go Intel 12th gen atm if possible

[warm pulsar]

A while*

[stoic island]

NZXT is never cheap tbh :(
Performance wise, their 300$ cooler can be beaten by a 100$ cooler

[warm pulsar]

I thought about going Intel but the mobo that came with the GPU is amd and i couldn't find anyone that wants it

[stoic island]

But anyways, if you have to stick with the board, might be worth waiting a little for 5800x3d to release

[warm pulsar]

But i see what you mean

5800x3d?

[stoic island]

For the rest of the build, ram wise, Corsair is just kinda bad, preferably go with ballistix rgb maybe

[warm pulsar]

Is the 3d just the next gen?

[stoic island]

AMD making a new chip with 3d v cache, supposedly called 5800x3d, only really leaks so far though

[warm pulsar]

Gotcha on the ram

[stoic island]

Bunch of leaks, but they're just that, leaks, nothing solid.

[warm pulsar]

I'm looking into the ballistix ram right now

What about PSU? Im assuming that the 1000w should be enough to handle that

[uneven gulch]

Is it an apu?

[potent portal]

No

The next APUs will be the 6000 series, with RDNA graphics

[obsidian wigeon]

And AMD APUs these days has G on their name

X or Non-G automatically means non APU

[stoic island]

Yes, G6 is good, but the price is a little high

[scenic turret]

That would be amazing

[outer blaze]

Newegg came in clutch on that restock of 3060 oc visions. Can’t wait to drop it in my build. Just now of a debate if i get a gpu cover and new support or just use my old support. Thoughts?

[flint sapphire]

It’s probably coming out on the 20th it’s already shown up in bios updates

*of April

[frank stirrup]

5800x 3d was announced and shown in the amd event at ces

[tight sorrel]

thyere really dragging their heels

[flint sapphire]

But it’s being released and shipped like in a month and a half

[tight sorrel]

Zen 3 was released in November 2020. AMD has done nothing in the meantime. They knew alderlake was comeing , and in the 4 months since its release AMD again, did nothing

12th gen wipes the floor with Zen 3, and AMD didnt even adjust pricing

[flint sapphire]

They haven’t released anything in the meantime. They’ve been setting up the next gen cpus, this is way more of a tech demo then anything imo

[limber oyster]

How much faster is a 7200rpm 3.5" HDD vs a 5400rpm 3.5" HDD in terms of loading files?

[tight sorrel]

not fast enought to notice

if you want to notice speed, SSD is the only way to go

[limber oyster]

I'm looking to get a 8tb file dump drive so....

[strong raft]

Not that I'm saying get a 7200rpm one, but a good one is Toshiba X300. 4TB $100ish, I forget other size prices. Of course other drives (5400 or not) might have better pricing.

[tight sorrel]

then any HDD will do I think

[limber oyster]

I found a 8tb Seagate 5400 for $130 and another 8tb 7200 for $160

[tight sorrel]

I can guarantee that you wont be able to tell the difference

[limber oyster]

Ok

So I'll get the 5400

Save the $30

I'm also thinking of just getting 2 2tb 870 QV0s

[strong raft]

Not qvo. Also get m.2 nvme drive(s) unless you ran out of those slots. Most sata ssds aren't really cheaper laterly. (But MX500 or 870 Evo would be a couple good sata ssds). Obviously hdds have much lower price per GB, so remember that when trying to store 2 or 4+ TB of stuff not needing ssd speeds.

[limber oyster]

I'm not spending $300 on a 2tb nvme EACH

I already have two 1tb NVMes

And what's wrong with QVO?

...I hate the easy Anti-Cheat Engine on steam

[strong raft]

Uses QLC instead of TLC. Lower endurance w/ qlc I think at least. Wikipedia or google could explain more/better. Edit: agree, easy AC is junk.

[limber oyster]

I need it to run war thunder and such according to steam

BUT my RGB software triggers the Anti-Cheat Engine

[stoic island]

just don't use rgb software smh

[stoic island]

2tb mp33 is 180$, not much more expensive than qvo
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CDM2HSS

[fossil cedar]

And good bit better ^

[limber oyster]

But then I'd have to replace one of my 1TBs

If I get a 2tb QVO/8tb hdd I can have 3 drives and keep the files seperate

I'm still nut sure if I want a faster but smaller storage drives or one bigger but slower

[fossil cedar]

Ahh already have both m.2 slots taken up ?

Honestly then the 870 qvo for 150$ is pretty good

[limber oyster]

Yep

Two 1tb gen 4s

[sacred talon]

So I am having issues with my PC there are a bunch of green lines running across my screen!

[fossil cedar]

I'd recommend trying DDU, here's a how to guide
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[sacred talon]

That didn't work.

[frank stirrup]

did you boot to safe mode?

[mossy venture]

Hey @frank stirrup suggestions on a laptop 100k inr? Gaming

[frank stirrup]

how come u wan inr?

[mossy venture]

Friend asking

Theyre in india

Current the best he's found is a 3060 11400h laptop

[frank stirrup]

https://www.amazon.in/ASUS-15-6-inch-GeForce-RTX-3060-SSDWindows-FX566HM-HN104T/dp/B096VHX239

[mossy venture]

Thank you

[frank stirrup]

Thats pretty much best gaming in that price tbh

[fossil cedar]

Respect for searching laptops on Amazon

[austere condor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nVmBbK

looking for some case recommendations

it "technically" fits in a 4000D airflow
but there's no room to route cables

[little osprey]

is that a x79 rampage 4 black edition?

[austere condor]

yep

doing a budget gaming PC build with it

[little osprey]

😍

[austere condor]

trying to find a cheap case to put it in

[little osprey]

would you be up for trading boards

👀

ah who am i kidding

i wont interrupt your workflow lol

[austere condor]

im pretty familiar with how much the board is worth

but

if you have an X79 and want to upgrade

possibly 🤷

[fossil cedar]

Width of the motherboard?

[austere condor]

304.8mm

12 inches

[little osprey]

what cpu? is that a 4820k?

[austere condor]

yeah

4820k, 32Gb ram

[little osprey]

how much'd you get it for?

the board cpu and ram

[austere condor]

i bought a whole PC with it in it for $100

[little osprey]

how do you get these deals

dang

[austere condor]

ive been doing it for years and im really good at it

[little osprey]

makes sense

I havent reached out to local businesses as much as I probably could

been sticking to ebay and marketplace and whatnot since its easier

[little osprey]

man thats gonna be a sick build

[little osprey]

how much you selling it for?

[fossil cedar]

Probably the cheapest case that would fit it properly
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RTxbt6/cooler-master-masterbox-pro-5-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-mcy-b5p2-kwgn-03

[little osprey]

@austere condor how much you selling it for?

[austere condor]

i expect to get $850 for the PC

[little osprey]

what gpu?

[fossil cedar]

Sheesh

[austere condor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nVmBbK

bought an alienware 1070 blower for $200

[little osprey]

good part list

[austere condor]

https://www.newegg.com/black-metallic-gear-neo-g-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854090

id love to use this but its not big enough

=/

[little osprey]

nice looking case yea

with gamer lights

[fossil cedar]

Looks like a nice case

[austere condor]

i guess im on a tossup between the lancool 215 or the matrexx 55V3 RGB

[fossil cedar]

Lancool 215 it will cover the cable management holes btw, anything over 280mm does

[austere condor]

[little osprey]

the bottom one looks GN disapproved

[austere condor]

ive built in it several times

[little osprey]

dang didnt know you were GN

[fossil cedar]

Shame the 215 doesn't fit, nice case and price atm

[austere condor]

no it will

i think thats the option to go with

[fossil cedar]

I mean it will it will just cut off cable management holes

Mattrexx 55v3 rgb ^

I'd go lancool 215 then

[austere condor]

overlaid the 4000D airflow on the 215

lined up all the mounting holes

the board comes right ot the edge of the corsair cable management bump out

[fossil cedar]

Lancools is tiny bit longer?

[austere condor]

215 comes out to $104.01

yeesh

[fossil cedar]

25$ tax?

[fossil cedar]

Swore it was 90$

[austere condor]

yeah it had the discount

but shipping too

[fossil cedar]

Ahh surprised that wasn't added to pcpp price

[fossil cedar]

Nice profits

[austere condor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sNF3bK

debating if i want to do this build in the 510 flow or my 4000d airflow

[fossil cedar]

EXCUSE ME SIR HOW TF DID YOU GET THAT AIO

And the 850w rmx

[austere condor]

leftover PSU from a build i bought

scrapping the case

focus G is gross

AIO was from a busted ABS prebuilt i bought for parts/not working

after selling the LL120 fans, and getting a partial refund cause there was a SSD missing

the board and AIO were stupid cheap

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Damm that's insane

[little osprey]

nice aio

[austere condor]

ok, big question, price has a small influence on this system, as i think im going to use the cheaper 3060ti in a build i got worse deals in to balance it out, but what GPU should I use in my upcoming Tower 100 PC build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VFjhyK

EVGA 3060ti FTW3 - $550

Gigabyte 3060ti Gaming OC pro - $650

MSI 3060ti Gaming X trio - ??? i think i paid like $750ish for it it might be FHR, so not 100% sure on using it yet, need to test

EVGA 3070 FTW3 - $750

a friend of mine @brisk brook built one with a Gaming OC pro

[fossil cedar]

You already have all cards?

[austere condor]

yeah

i just took a photo of them XD

[fossil cedar]

Right, I'd go ftw3, smaller than gaming x and needs better cooling than gaming oc cuz sandwiched in glass

[brisk brook]

i dont remember off the top of my head the thermals but they werent anything crazy

half of the panel is mesh and half is glass

[jagged ember]

h1 but cool

[sacred talon]

So I tried just about everything that I can think of to clear the Green lines from my monitor but nothing

[mossy venture]

try underclocking gpu

also make sure cable is fully plugged in

or a diff cable

[raven saffron]

Hello all I was wondering if you would be kind enough to help me out. I'm planning my first build and wanted some feed back on my parts choice. I'm trying to keep the budget around the $1,000 Usd amount thanks in advance.
cpu: intel core I5-12600k
motherboard: msi pro z690-a wifi
ram: corsair vengeance rgb pro 16 gbs
gpu: asus rog strix geforce RTX 3050
case: thermal take core x31 temperd glass already have on hand
psu: corsair rm850 cp-9020235-NA
plan on keeping storage and cpu cooler out of current pc.

[frigid night]

You might look at the Corsair 4000D airflow or Phanteks P400A cases. They offer very good airflow and are cheaper by like $50-60.

The P400A however doesn't offer top radiator mounting.

[raven saffron]

thanks for the suggestion. but I was planning on using the Thermaltake case since I got it for free.

[frigid night]

Ah gotcha. Nice

[potent portal]

If you get a 12400 and B660 you can get a better GPU

[frigid night]

Is the psu the rmx or just rm? I think I've seen it recommended to go with rmx over the rm.

[potent portal]

RMx is cheaper rn too

[frigid night]

Also, i always see the bitfenix whisper 850w recommended.

[raven saffron]

Thank you ill look into those.

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tMGNQ6
This way you have more budget for the GPU, and the RM750x can handle up to a 3070ti

[raven saffron]

thank you

[untold vessel]

Guys, I am about to purchase a custom gaming PC.
--The cost of this system and all of the bonus peripherals and extras I am getting will be $2564.30.
--Do you think the following system is a good deal?
--Do you think I should buy it / change out anything?
--Any feedback is welcome. This is one of my biggest purchases yet.

---

The Build:

CASE: CyberPowerPC AURON ARGB Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Tempered Glass Window
CASE FANS: (x6) 120mm ARGB Fans
MOTHERBOARD: GIGABYTE Z690 UD AX DDR4 WiFi 6, ATX ARGB
CPU: i5-12600K
GPU: GeForce RTX 3080 10GB GDDR6X
CPU COOLER: CyberpowerPC MasterLiquid Lite 360mm ARGB CPU
HDD: 1TB GIGABYTE AORUS (PCIe Gen4) NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 5000/4400 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 750/700k (Single Drive)
RAM: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/3600MHz Dual Channel Memory GSKILL Trident Z RGB
PSU: 1,000 Watts - Corsair RMx RM1000X 80 PLUS Gold certified Fully Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply
OS: Windows 11 Home

---

Bonuses, accessories, peripherals, and extras:

SET-UP:
OVERCLOCKING: Pro OC (Guaranteed Performance Overclock 10% or more) [+19]
PRO_WIRING: Professional Wiring + [Black] Phanteks Premium Extension Cables sleeved set [+$39]

Peripherals:
Keyboard: CYBERPOWERPC Skorpion K2 RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard [+$5]
Headset: CyberpowerPC SHADOW I Wired Gaming Headset w/Detachable Mic [+$5]
Mouse: Cooler Master MM720 RGB Honeycomb Ultralight 16000 DPI Optical Sensor Gaming Mouse with Ultraweave Cable [+$9]
Mouse Pad: CyberPowerPC FPS Gaming Mouse Pad [+0] (Large 14x12 Inches) [+$0]
HDMI Wire: 6-FT HDMI Flat Cable, V1.4, Supports 3D & 4K Resolution, Gold Plated Connector Cable [+$5]

PC CARE:
CARE1: Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution - Protect Your Dream System During Transit [+$19]
CARE2: CPU Thermal Compound [+$10]

Service & Warranty:
SERVICE: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT) [+$0]
WARRANTY: PREMIUM WARRANTY: Standard 1 Year Parts WARRANTY + ONE (1) YEAR SHIPPING [+$19]

[obsidian wigeon]

meh

The case sucks tbh

[gritty rover]

Could always swap out the case

[desert gulch]

Pay extra for the guarantee that your PC will arrive intact? That's kinda scummy of cyber lol

That should be the companies responsibility regardless

[plain grove]

I just upgraded my gpu and everything is huge

[potent portal]

Update your drivers and change the resolution

[plain grove]

I fixed it already

Thanks

[tiny scaffold]

Hey I appreciate all the help wit my first build, but I've heard I need to clean it often. How often do u guys clean your PC's?

[frigid night]

I personally would take a can of dust off to it once a month. It also depends what kind of area you live in. Is it particularly dusty there?

Considering how often I have to clean the filter on my AC, I'd say once a month is good for me.

[little osprey]

when it starts to look dusty

my pc doesn’t get too dusty so usually once every couple months

just a quick brush over the fans on my porch

[fossil cedar]

Bad case, power supply, ram is definitely going to be cl18, they're ripping you off paying for cable management, bet their "pro oc" is +50 core in msi afterburner +400 memory, you're paying extra for cable management? Peripherals are definitely gonna be ewaste level, they're ripping you off getting you to pay extra for thermal paste lol, that's a necessity, paying for your pc to get their in 1 piece shouldn't be a thing they just trying get your money, I'd really build a better one yourself for cheaper

[fossil cedar]

I usually hoover the mesh filters every 1-2 weeks but I've a dog that sheds non stop so dusty room + pc on floor, i don't dust out the inside more than every uhh 2-3 months

[tiny scaffold]

Oh ok, so I'm mostly looking out for dust, I can do that, been doing that wit my playstations ally life. And I dnt think it's really dusty out here

[royal nest]

Hello, are there any rtx 3070 laptop deals? My range is 1.4k

[fossil cedar]

You in the us?

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834725184

[unborn shell]

3.9GHZ AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
nvidia gtx 2060
MSI MPG B550 WIFI AM4 AMD B550( wifi bluethooth )
Fractal Design Celsius S36 Blackout 360mm Silent High Performance
ספק כח Seasonic FOCUS GX-550

Corsair Force LE SSD 120GB
HyperX FURY Black 1x8GB
keyboard Razer Tournament V2
speakers Logitech Z533

how much should i buy this for? like how much is all this worth

[obsidian wigeon]

1.1k tops

[mossy venture]

Even that's pushing it imo

[frank stirrup]

wait u in the us?

[fossil cedar]

Not worth more than 900$

[frank stirrup]

hes typed out the part bfore psu name in what looks to be hebrew

might not be in the us

[fossil cedar]

Ohh yeah i see that

1x8gb ram that's a tikes

How did they build that with 8gb ram

Cry

[unborn shell]

ok so

i am from israel '_'

yeah

and tbh i could just swap the ram from my current build to this one

[fossil cedar]

Ahhh, I'd say it's not worth more than about 3,800 shekal

With the keyboard and speakers, which i just noticed, maybe add a little bit more, add maybe ~300-400 shekal on

[unborn shell]

he's selling for 3400

[fossil cedar]

That's good

Especially if you need the keyboard/speaker

Nice motherboard and cooler as well

[obsidian wigeon]

oop

i didn't see the ram

[rocky dirge]

Thoughts on the sama im01? Looking for a small portable micro ATX case (ATX PSU very much preferred)

[fossil cedar]

Never heard of it, sounds like there's better options no matter what, all micro atx cases take atx power supplies, there is no such thing as micro atx power supply

[rocky dirge]

Most sff micro ATX cases (jonsbo u3) take sfx psu

I also saw the thermal take core v21 but it seems a bit old

[fossil cedar]

Sff is itx not micro atx

[frank stirrup]

there you go
BTW parts pricing from country to country is VERY different so best to not just blindly convert currency

[fossil cedar]

Micro atx is atx but chop off 10-20cm off of height

[rocky dirge]

Let me rephrase

Most similar cases take micro ATX motherboards, and SFX power supplies

I want micro ATX mobo, AND ATX psu

[fossil cedar]

Think you're confusing micro atx with itx

[rocky dirge]

No I'm not

[rocky dirge]

I don't want itx because itx mobo expensive

Yes, micro ATX motherboard and ATX power supply

[fossil cedar]

Yeah I've never seen a micro atx case that doesn't take atx power supply

Unless there is, feel free to link

[rocky dirge]

There's a website that has all the sff cases, but I forgot what it is

[frank stirrup]

get literally almost any matx supported case then

[rocky dirge]

It needs to be portable

[frank stirrup]

then buy a laptop

or an intel nuc

[rocky dirge]

Like a micro ATX version of nr200 would be perfect

[rocky dirge]

Already did, but I need the power of my desktop

[fossil cedar]

I mean itx boards aren't that bad if you know what you're looking for btw

[potent portal]

Remote into a pc that's remoted into the one you're using

[stoic island]

Remote into a remote.

[fossil cedar]

https://youtube.com/shorts/-Ngh2S4ljsU?feature=share

[gritty rover]

That reminds me to put in the adapter cable for my fan lights

[gritty rover]

😭 holy, 1) that’s a big monitor 2) what the hell

Seems like a nightmare

[humble fossil]

hi

What the difference?

[unborn shell]

one is for both amd and intel and one is for only amd

the CPU

i think-

[marsh sluice]

only one that comes to mind is 011 d mini

[humble fossil]

does it affect if I choose AMD and intel for amd

[humble fossil]

hello

i want to use the ssd m.2 only. I think I need 2TB. Should I buy one or two?

[celest horizon]

Link the kit, probably none.

No such thing as amd or intel optimized ram

[fossil cedar]

just marketing ^

[fossil cedar]

if your budget can afford 2, go with 2

also would not advise buying corsair ram

[celest horizon]

This is still $189 with the education discount. https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/ssd-970-evo-plus-nvme-m-2-2-tb-mz-v7s2t0b-am/

[humble fossil]

ok thx all

[fossil cedar]

Np

[fossil cedar]

@unborn shell so you're looking for a gaming pc for 4k shekal?

[unborn shell]

yes-

i just saw the computer you made for me in newegg and thanks

but...

the prices are incorrect

for example the cpu is listed for 477 but the cheapest you could get it in israel is 529

and ordering something from out of state would make it just that much more expensive so...

and no way in hell i could find that gpu for only 1700
used people are selling it for more

thanks but the prices are too far apart...

[humble fossil]

what is the difference

[potent portal]

Amazon listings often have pictures of the wrong products
But it seems like the top one just has a collectible box from what I can see

[little osprey]

the top one says LHR but that doesn’t guarantee the the other one is fhr

[unborn shell]

AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600 32MB Cache
up to 4.20 GHz , With Wraith Stealth Cooler

MSI B450-A PRO MAX

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 EAGLE OC-12GB, חדש מהאריזה.

Crucial Ballistix 16GB Kit
(2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Desktop Gaming (Black)

Western Digital SN730 512GB PCIe NVMe up to 3,400 MB/s (Read)

ANTEC PSU 550W Neo Eco Modular 80+

Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-DELTA RGB

for 4500 shekels
what da yall think :)

[vague oracle]

None, all marketing

[little osprey]

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Graphics-Cards/KO/filter?Series=KO

some specify LHR and some don’t

Not sure if there are FHR versions

[potent portal]

There's no new GPUs with FHR at this point, nvidia stopped making those except for the FE cards a long time ago

[gritty rover]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/tbp0ez/my_brothers_pc_from_couple_of_years_ago_he_kept/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[potent portal]

I've seen worse

[gritty rover]

😟

Yikes

[humble fossil]

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

but its in stock there?

[fossil cedar]

factory oc is just a small bit higher clocks from the factory

[fossil cedar]

But also they said free shipping on anything over 600 so if you buy all at once that should do it

[humble fossil]

which is better

[fossil cedar]

the cheaper one

[humble fossil]

ok thx

[unborn shell]

yep it is for about 2400 cheapest i think

hmm

when i rethink about the all ordeal i could maybe just upgrade my current build

this is my current build:

ryzen 5 2400g
a320m-s2h-cf
gtx 1050 ti 4gb
1tb hdd
500gb hdd
120gb ssd
16gb ddr4 2400mhz (2x8)
my monitor is s22b300 in case you wonder

so... what should i do? upgrade this build or buy a new one
and if i should upgrade how should i?

[fossil cedar]

ohhhhh yeah if you already have a pc that helps a bit, i would probably try sell that one, maybe carry forward your 500gb hdd

[fleet pagoda]

Anyone know if ill have to buy a lga 1700 bracket with my nzxt x63 aio

[cursive wharf]

Depends on whether retailer has old stock. Also, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280mm is cheaper and better then the x63.

Both NZXT and Arctic provides free upgrade kits

[foggy sand]

Hey I have a build without a wifi adapter and I'm waiting for a hub should I just turn it on rn or wait

[little osprey]

you can turn it on just use ethernet

assuming your motherboard has ethernet

If not you can’t really do much on your computer without internet easily unless you download your drivers on a different computer and move them over with a usb but that takes a lot of effort

[frigid night]

I'm curious. Is it possible to build a pc for around $1-1.5k that'll run almost all games at max settings with enough fps to get a 144hz 1440p monitor?

[frank stirrup]

1440p 144fps on ultra presets nah

[earnest olive]

define "enough fps"

because 12900K + 3090 is still far too weak to hit 1440p 144 fps in all games at max settings

but if you're willing to settle for less fps in some titles or not quite max settings then you can maybe get away with a 3070 in a 1.5k build

[untold vessel]

Guys

Is there really that much if a difference between 3600mhz ram and 3200mhz ram

I’m getting 32 GBs of either

Difference would be a $150 difference

[fossil cedar]

Then you're looking at some wack ram it's like a 50$ diff for 32gb

[mossy venture]

Depends on what cpu you're getting

And +1 to pato

[humble fossil]

Hi

I have a laptop that is about 3 years old. The charger port is defective and does not charge well. If I remove it from the charger, it closes immediately - is it useful for me to repair the charger port and change the battery?

[mossy venture]

do you mean it dies immediately?

[humble fossil]

yes

[mossy venture]

not the charging port, batterys dead

replacing the battery should fix it

[humble fossil]

and now I open discord in laptop and he doesn’t turn on again

[mossy venture]

wdym

[humble fossil]

someone pulled the wire while it was in the charger port and it didn't fit well

i opened the discord app and closed and couldn't get it to work again

[mossy venture]

it probably was running in the background

if you go into task manager and close discord from there you could prolly launch it again

[humble fossil]

i hope the files are not lost

he is word now after trying

[mossy venture]

ive no clue

[humble fossil]

always open this when this is damaged

[humble fossil]

about what?

[mossy venture]

about the issue

[humble fossil]

i think the port should be repaired and the battery replaced, right?

I hope to have a PC soon :)

[bold prism]

Guys I can’t find a place on my motherboard for it anyone know where to plug it?

[frigid night]

What motherboard do you have?

[bold prism]

Msi z690 edge

[frigid night]

Look for a jrainbow header on the board.

[bold prism]

I found it but the header is like the cable

There’s pins coming out

[earnest olive]

that's not meant to plug into a motherboard

that's a male connector

motherboard has a male connector expecting a female connector

that's probably coming off of your case's built in RGB controller (looks like phanteks)

you can plug your fans into that cable, it will power the rgb, but you won't be able to control rgb using software (you will have to use the case control button)

[bold prism]

So techinically I can leave that unplugged

And plug the case can cable to the mother board instead

[earnest olive]

yes absolutely

if you leave it unplugged it just means the case controller will be ignored

[bold prism]

Ok thank you very much I was stuck

[earnest olive]

would recommend putting the pin protecting sleeve back on it, it should have come with one

[bold prism]

Yea I have it

[earnest olive]

yeah, just in case you ever want to use it in the future, better not break it for nothing

i've used that with some boards that were too old to support ARGB

8700K based build with all of the rgb being powered by the phanteks case

[outer blaze]

I wish my case had the hole in the psu shroud so i could run my gpu power cords through it. Sucks having to go through the little grommets and back track to the psu

[earnest olive]

lol, you should see where my gpu power cables are routed through

wrong image one sec

[outer blaze]

I wish i had more cable management options

[earnest olive]

routed through the top lol

[outer blaze]

Nice

I can’t post pics for some reason

[mossy venture]

Have to talk more to level up

[outer blaze]

Ohhh i see that makes more sense

I like to just check out builds lol

[formal girder]

Your not the only one that loves to see new builds everyday all the time

[outer blaze]

Right, gives me ideas for mine

Just wish i could share to get others thoughts lol

[formal girder]

Just chat a bit more till you have the rank to post pics

[outer blaze]

Yup eventually

[formal girder]

So do you already have a PC or looking to build or upgrade?

[outer blaze]

I have a pc and am upgrading still. I am waiting on gpu cover, support, and pau shroud

[formal girder]

Nice what specs you running currently?

[outer blaze]

I have an i5, geforce rtx 3060 vision oc, got 32gb ddr4 ram uhm those are main specs

[formal girder]

Not bad at all that's actually pretty good but what model i5?

[outer blaze]

11400f2.6ghz

[formal girder]

Not bad

[outer blaze]

Came in the prebuilt so can’t complain

[formal girder]

Oh understandable

[outer blaze]

Yeah just didnt swap that or psu out

[formal girder]

If ya want ya can dm a pic of your build and I can give some pointers or ideas for you

[outer blaze]

It’s trying lol

Can’t conpress it lol

[formal girder]

Oof

[outer blaze]

Yeah

[mossy venture]

Just take a ss of your pc

Ez

[formal girder]

Actually that would work

How to save storage just ss and delete original

[outer blaze]

Nice got it

[formal girder]

Ngl their build is pretty clean as it is and looks nice

[little osprey]

my headset is at 100% volume and sounds quiet what do i do to fix this

[outer blaze]

Check your actual pc volume

[little osprey]

dude

its at 100%

[obsidian wigeon]

Try checking your headphone's volume

Like if there's a physical volume wheel

[little osprey]

the wheels also turrned up all the way too

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

Could be audio drivers missing, maybe

[little osprey]

my pc just started doing this like one week after i bulit it

where do i find audio drivers

[outer blaze]

Device manager

Type it in search, then audio inputs and outputs check that your stuff shows up there

First

Right click on your audio device if it shows up there and theb say update driver

[bold prism]

Does anyone know if you are able to just buy a pc case glass? Mine shattered a bit. I have a phanteks one

[little osprey]

it says best drivers already installed

[outer blaze]

Yeah kevdog just search it online and find your case

It will sound strange, did you try unplugging it and plugging it back in?😂

[stoic island]

Contact support for replacement panel, what case to be specific?

[stoic island]

Do you hear nothing or do you hear it but it sounds quiet

[little osprey]

it sounds quiet

[stoic island]

What headphones to be specific?

might want a dedicated amp/dac

[little osprey]

steelseries arctis 3

[outer blaze]

Or go to settings. Then sound and check your output volume or go to device properties and check those

[stoic island]

eh, shouldn't be hard to run

[bold prism]

@stoic island I have the phanteks 500

[little osprey]

wdym

[stoic island]

https://www.phanteksusa.com/products/p500a-tempered-glass-panel

Low impedance

shouldn't need anything beyond mobo sound card

[little osprey]

what is a mobo sound card