building-and-recc-chat

[strong raft]

15+ years. P35/p45 chipset allowed OC, others didn't.

[stoic island]

Just Intel things

[little osprey]

but new z series do support it

[desert gulch]

If their cheaper chipset supported CPU oc, how could they make the consumer feel forced to buy a more expensive chipset?

[desert gulch]

Correct

[strong raft]

Imagine if certain non-Z mobos also lowered* the boosting or removed it.

[little osprey]

ok ok makes sense now

[desert gulch]

Also nowadays, overclocking cpu doesn't really give that much extra performance

Intel has gotten good at making their cpus boost really high from factory and squeezing most of the perf out

You can still get a little extra by removing power limits, but it isn't as much as it used to be

[strong raft]

It's not OCing a 2.4ghz Pentium to 4GHz anymore

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[little osprey]

true\

[strong raft]

Or a q6600 from 2.66ish to 4ish also. That takes a beast of a cooler though & luck. --- 12400 & lower models will be the stuff to look at for "budget" rigs. The wattage alone seems really good.

[little osprey]

im still on previous gen stuff i do plan on upgrading later on tho

amd btw

[strong raft]

@honest anchor built a hover craft. Very nice!

[little osprey]

who knew the amd driver sayings were true lmao

amd drivers suck.

[desert gulch]

Hey hey hey

[strong raft]

Haven't had an amd rig in my house since my dad used an FX 64 (3800+) or something.

[little osprey]

tbh i went all amd cause at the time amd was at the top with low prices and performance

Lmao

[honest anchor]

hahaha my case looks like a wannabe snow white

[desert gulch]

My all amd system is still working great

[little osprey]

Hardware cool but drivers sadge

well that time was right as 30 series cards were announced

[desert gulch]

I have undoubtedly the worst driver and card

[little osprey]

Which?

[desert gulch]

One blue screen since June 2020

[little osprey]

5600xt

[desert gulch]

5700xt

[little osprey]

Ah. i was close

Wtf how did it autocorrect to cmos

i have a 5700xt oc from msi

[desert gulch]

One blue screen in almost 2 years is fine

[little osprey]

I’ve bluescreened many times

[desert gulch]

Nvidia moment

[little osprey]

More like hp prebuilt moment

and vanguard moment

[desert gulch]

Still Nvidia

[little osprey]

i bluescreened only when i built my cpu

[desert gulch]

?

[little osprey]

my pc

[desert gulch]

Oh lol

[strong raft]

Btw, white leds are 1000000x better than unicorn vomit.

[little osprey]

i was thinking of cpu and typed that instead lol

[desert gulch]

Man's didn't want a prebuilt cpu smh

[little osprey]

He handmade the pins

yeup

Soldered every single one

then bashed it in the socket with a sledgehammer

hands of a surgeon

https://tenor.com/view/computer-thermal-paste-cpu-socket-gamersnexus-gif-13535307

[desert gulch]

Gamers Nexus rn

[little osprey]

idk how but my cpu was the cause of my bluescreen and restart loop

[desert gulch]

Before they return Mobo to newegg

[strong raft]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-gif-22081002

[desert gulch]

Or at least that's what Newegg accused him of lol

[strong raft]

They magically sealed the box up

[little osprey]

oh yeah i installed an exhaust fan and it wont spin 😐

[desert gulch]

Facts

[little osprey]

nvm i just noticed the damn cable came off the pins 🤦‍♂️

[strong raft]

Trying to do bluetooth fans are we

[little osprey]

yes

its an rgb fan so it was lit up

didnt think the cable wasnt connected

[long rock]

@minor garnet nice cable management lol. Mine is piss

[little osprey]

F

[long rock]

Yup

[little osprey]

hey dude

[long rock]

Idk how to manage it better it’s annoying

[strong raft]

Power strip attached to under table

Also wtf. Great cables though

[long rock]

I have a few outlets on the table itself I may use

Like 2

Yeah I wonder if like velcroing all that under the table would help

[strong raft]

Yes

[long rock]

Never crossed my mind 😂😂

Like ever

That is so genius

get strapped or get clapped ig

😂

[strong raft]

Cables be strapped or you get clapped, bingo. Feeling the wires on my feet would be. a trigger

[long rock]

I need a wireless headset my earbuds are so annoying

Like I love the feel but they are in the way

And wireless mousy and new keyboard that isn’t smashed

And new chair

Case is coming in febuary thankfully

[desert gulch]

😳

[strong raft]

Almost wish I didn't get the Kraken Ultimate as a gift. Would've gone wireless.

[long rock]

Unrelated note it is so cold I’m sleeping with my sweatshirt under 2 blankets 1 weighted and also under the comforter. It’s cold bois

That’s like 5 layers

😂😂

And sweatpants

Imma prolly order an SSD tommorow. I have a chair I really really like picked out but it’s 430 dollars, no idea on a keyboard mouse or headset

Gonna get rid of this eventually 🙄

comfort 💯

[strong raft]

Looking at that, I feel like Hank Hill when he needed the butt implants

[long rock]

Yeah I’ve had it for 2 years and enough Is enough

[strong raft]

Once agai. that floor is like when Homer sees a doughnut

[long rock]

I just really wanna fork over the 430 for the Secretlab Titan

Like tommorow 😂

I need my checks to get like put in my account so I can

I honestly may rip off the baindaid and do that first, only like 2 weeks of work tbh

I can make it up fast

[scenic heath]

Does the Asus Rog z690-e only support ddr5?

[long rock]

@strong raft gotta hand it to my dad man, our whole 2nd floor and half our first floor is wood

[strong raft]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-gif-19126844

[strong raft]

It either takes ddr5 or ddr4, not both.

[long rock]

LOGITECH. yeah them. Don’t they make the best perfs period?

[strong raft]

They'rea huge company., I had Logitech when everything was white and before "gaming" stuff was a thing. Soon as I tried Razer's copperhead & diamondback mice I was hooked. Brand almost doesn't matter now, but some keyboards have better keys than others, that's for sure.

[long rock]

Interesting

I hate the green theme tho 🥺

[long rock]

Oh nice

[strong raft]

My mouse is only green though... all the modern stuff often has rgb options so you pick w/e color you want

[long rock]

Yay

Love RGB. My P500A is gonna be a bloody blast when it arrives

[strong raft]

My old o.g. deathadder was blue like my keyboard, but started double clicking on button 1. Fully backlight KB would be nice for typing in the dark. Only my side macro keys are lit.

[long rock]

I like the G910 keyboard

[potent portal]

I play MMOs a lot so I managed to wear out my logitech mouse in 7 months, double click. They replaced it under warranty.

G502 mouse wheel goes brrrrrr

[still roost]

GM 2 Ton Specialist | DaveBeee#7165 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[long rock]

Ugh

Sold out

[scenic heath]

Okay appreciate it!

Should of read that before I bought a 12th Gen with ddr4 lol

[potent portal]

Honestly ddr4 is often better than ddr5 and a lot cheaper

[strong raft]

Ddr5 is very hard to find and expensive.

Better off just getting a mobo that uses ddr4

I hate the modern Logi logo, but they have good stuff.

[potent portal]

It's going to take time before ddr5 catches up in performance to the best ddr4 kits. Until then, 3600c16 is still the sweet spot for price/performance, and c14 if you have 12900k.

(or any other b-die kit)

[strong raft]

Seems popular and a decent choice. I only research peripherals once in a while. The Tarantula keeps "trucking" along

[potent portal]

The good stuff tends to be really good, but they're bipolar AF so the bad stuff is literal e-waste.

[strong raft]

I'd say checking a few reviews & customer feedback is smart

[potent portal]

Non-sponsored reviews of course. There's plenty of "we'll give it to you for free if you say good things about it like x and y"

[long rock]

Ye

I think imma order that G810 mousepad tonight tbh

840

[strong raft]

Is it thiccc?

[long rock]

It’s a big boi

Like 15 inches by idk

[little osprey]

i shoulda gotten that instead of the g640

[long rock]

15 by 33 Jesus Christ

[little osprey]

but either way still a good mousepad

[strong raft]

Yeah, desk pad > than mouse pad. Find a better excuse than mouse went off the pad.

[potent portal]

And here I am with the mousepad that came with my windows 7 laptop. Microsoft logo and all.

[scenic heath]

Worded that wrong the Asus came with ddr5 and my ddr4 don’t fit

[long rock]

Ight bois we are buying that mousepad

Deskpad rather

[strong raft]

Ooof

[little osprey]

the g640 is more than enough space for me

[scenic heath]

Yea lol so I gotta spend like $500 for ddr5 that I don’t want lol

I ain’t takin apart my pc again

[potent portal]

I do have one of those medium size GN mod mats for my work bench. Total game changer.

[potent portal]

If you can even find any for that price

[scenic heath]

Yea for real lol

[strong raft]

I know swapping ram is easy, too bad it's not that simple. Similar to when ddr4 1st came out though, but worse.

[potent portal]

All you can really do is buy a random kit when you can (they've been in newegg shuffle lol) and hope it overclocks well

[scenic heath]

100p and I had the trident royal z ram lol

[strong raft]

That's (ususlly) good stuff*

[potent portal]

Not every kit of royals are good. I've seen some really bad ones.

[scenic heath]

Lol yea myn worked well so didn’t complain more got it for the looks

[strong raft]

Do you have another pc to use or what?

[long rock]

Alright the damage is done

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NGyV3C/gskill-trident-z-royal-32-gb-4-x-8-gb-ddr4-3000-memory-f4-3000c16q-32gtrs

The funny part is those are more expensive than 3600c16

[long rock]

I may actually cancel that and find something with RGB

[scenic heath]

Nahh lol

[potent portal]

Rgb mousepad? Eh, why not. Especially if you play in a semi dark room.

[long rock]

True

Idk if I can even cancel it

I’ll live I guess

[strong raft]

You can try

[long rock]

Idk why I constantly do this

[potent portal]

It's the gift and curse of having everything we need and want at our fingertips

One cool thing I saw recently was a wireless mouse that charges on a wireless charger, paired with a desk pad that acts as a wireless charger

[long rock]

Yeah Logitech has that I think

[potent portal]

Sounds like them but idr

I like innovation like that, though. Keep finding new ways to use the new tech.

[strong raft]

Desk pad as the charger is pretty op.

[potent portal]

Charge your phone, keeb, and mouse at the same time

[strong raft]

Btw thnx for linking that silver trident ram. Shows me I "saved" a decent chunk going w/ basic stuff.

[frank stirrup]

falcie they changed me to a dyn ip

from static

out of nowhere

i sad

[potent portal]

Looks like the off brands have it already
Gaming Mouse Pad with Wireless Charger for iPhone 13, iPhone 12, iPhone 11, iPhone X and iPhone 8, Large Desktop Mat Pad with Wireless Charging, with Adjustable LED Light (31.49" x 11.81" x 0.47") https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08VNDGGCY/

[little osprey]

i think thats just a phone charger

[long rock]

Yeah imma return that deskpad

[little osprey]

isnt there one where the whole thing is the charger?

[long rock]

Yeah

There was a razer pad I really liked too

But I may end up getting one of those charging pads

Idk

[strong raft]

Takes up mouse room, huge L

[little osprey]

im wired so i dont need it hyperx pulsefire haste

[long rock]

Eh, I guess what I got is fine for now

Whatever

[little osprey]

what mouse did you get? wireless?

[long rock]

Idk why it’s 50 freaking bucks but I guess I’ll find out because it’s prolly so big

[strong raft]

Could start with a generic bigass pad for $15ish

[long rock]

No

I got the G840 mousepad

I could have

Not very impulsive tho

😂

[little osprey]

its a good pad tho really smooth

[long rock]

I think I’ll like it, deskpads are nice anyways

[little osprey]

if its the same as the g640, youll like it

[potent portal]

I think it was GN that mentioned in a video why it took so long to get mousepads on their store. A surprising amount of engineering goes into them.

[long rock]

I need to think these things through because I’ve been impulse buying a lot of stuff for the PC, hell the PC itself was an impulse buy

[strong raft]

You and me both. Been a steep slope since I got the mobo on Ebay.

[long rock]

Yup

[strong raft]

Soon enough I should get out of 2008 and get a display that's not 60Hz

[long rock]

So I’m wondering when that keyboard will be back in stock I like lol

[strong raft]

Wdym, they only want to sell ones that are really good or do they build some?

[long rock]

God I’m seeing them for like 30 bucks on eBay

[still roost]

GM 2 Ton Specialist | DaveBeee#7165 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[strong raft]

Keyboard prices vary dramatically

[potent portal]

GN tries to stand by their product quality. A lot of it is designed in house. It's better to them to delay a product until it meets their standards.

[little osprey]

60%, tenkeyless or full size?

[potent portal]

Here's the one https://youtu.be/XL2cY1w6ktk

[strong raft]

If you had a full w/ macro keys on both sides like my og Tarantula, people would understand my mouse room issue sometimes haha

[long rock]

Full-size

[little osprey]

yeah i dont see people with full size kbs anymore

[long rock]

The G910 is a monster lol

See rn I have a full size and use the media keys all the time so it’s quite nice

[little osprey]

i use media keys with FN lol

[potent portal]

I should probably get a tenkeyless with my limited space... But that's money I don't need to spend. My circa 2006 keyboard from hp works fine.

[little osprey]

redragon k552 is the tenkeyless i have

[obsidian wigeon]

i just want a fullsize-ish keeb

like 96%

still has all the keys but more compact

just like a laptop's keyboard

[potent portal]

So a thin bezel basically?

[strong raft]

I'd happily not have the macros on both sides at least. That's 2" almost

[strong raft]

Pretty neat for $44incl shipping

[little osprey]

https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwiX8tS1_J71AhWFCJEKHd1fDqEYABAKGgJjZQ&ae=2&ei=M9jXYea6CbXK1sQP65WU4Aw&sig=AOD64_1jQOeF6NWqIaIt0pGkrwuSwxtnsw&ctype=5&q=&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwimoMq1_J71AhU1pZUCHesKBcwQww96BAgCED0&adurl=

kb i have

[strong raft]

Remember ign? Apparently my kb appeared in 06

[little osprey]

oh yeah that kb is a big boi

[strong raft]

Deffo one of the o.g. gaming keebs. Only 2 or 3 keys are soft. Membrane is nice & quiet though. What's the quietest mech keys?

[long rock]

The 910? Yeah

[little osprey]

tbh idk

[strong raft]

Your tkl one sure is popular. I guess maybe cherry mx red or similar is 1 of the quieter key types perhaps

[little osprey]

its pretty good for a cheap kb

i think they use their version of red switches

ive seen theres also a blue switch version of my kb but i havent seen it anywhere lately

[upper rock]

Hi there, i am planning for a dual monitor setup. I have a macbook

how do i connect my 2 monitors to the macbook?

do i need to get some usb type c hub or something?

i will be having 2 hdmi cables from my monitor right

i am little confused

[tight sorrel]

https://www.google.com/search?q=macbook+dual+hdmi+adapter&oq=macbook+dual+&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i512l9.14151j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[upper rock]

@tight sorrel two hdmi ports has to be connected to the hub?

i thought we had to use a small junction box for hdmi ports and then connect that to the hub

[tight sorrel]

you connect the hub to your mac via thunderbolt, then you connect 2 monitors to the hub through HDMI

[upper rock]

sure

@tight sorrel if i ll have to go for a 3 monitor setup

again the same method?

[tight sorrel]

yes

the amount of monitors depends on the hub you get

[ocean garnet]

Hello, I was wondering if anyone here could help me out with a building issue I am having right now

[stoic island]

What issue are you having?

[pale dust]

i think ive adapted pretty well to a 60%

once you commit the extra functions to memory

its great

looks really nice and saves a ton of space too

[stoic island]

After using 65%, I feel like 65% is the smallest you can do without weirdness

I'm still pretty annoyed of having to use fn layer for stuff like ` but I've adapted somewhat

[pale dust]

what issues do you normally have?

actually i can see that

the weirdest thing for me is having to hold down fn while using arrow keys

i dont use them a lot other then bios because my dpi is too low but its definitely annoying

oh the

`

coders use that quite a bit dont they

[stoic island]

I use prntscrn a lot and this doesn't have a prtscrn button too

[tight sorrel]

when coding I tend to highlight blocks/lines of text a lot, so using shift+end/home/pgup/pgdown. 60% is not viable for me

[stoic island]

65% does tend to have dedicated end/home/pgup/pgdn so that could work for you

[tight sorrel]

yeh. 65 and TKL is what I am looking at

or would be

[little osprey]

Hi

[tight sorrel]

hello

[little osprey]

good morning

[sharp temple]

How's this for a cheap mini itx build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BWt7rr

GPU RAM and HDD are parts I already have

@fossil cedar we were talking about this a few days ago

[fossil cedar]

Ssd for the build?

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2Nz6nL I would do this

[sharp temple]

I'd be down with that

Is the psu fully modular

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[languid nimbus]

I do realize how much I miss the keypad on the right side of the keeb after switching to 60%, but that’s a given lol. I’ve already figured out the extra functions and stuff. Plus the only time I really use the #keypad anyways is when I typed in my pin or was making a word doc or something

Otherwise it’s not that huge a deal, I’m happy with it

[little osprey]

You can still buy an external one

and set it to the side when you’re not using it

[naive slate]

i need someones help, so my pcs leds are stuck on green and id like to change them but idk how. do i change the case or install different fans in my pc? im so lost right now send helppp
i wanna do my setup purple/pink and i have mine as green currently
(fans are the only leds that are in my pc)

[worn idol]

You probably need the software for controlling the rgb

[naive slate]

its stuck on green, i cant change it at all. i did hours of research on my pc and its stuck on green

[worn idol]

What fans do you have

[naive slate]

no idea

i didnt build it, its a prebuilt

i can send you the amazon link if youd like

[worn idol]

Sure

[naive slate]

let me find it

[errant fiber]

amazon prebuilt

[naive slate]

yes

[errant fiber]

D:

[naive slate]

my dad insisted i wanted to build my own but he thinks im dumb

sooooo he bought one for me

[errant fiber]

i got a prebuilt and rebuilt it

[naive slate]

https://www.amazon.com/Mantis-GeForce-Windows-Desktop-Computer/dp/B09BX311TD/ref=sr_1_2?crid=O6UYQRYWTMMC&keywords=cuk+mantis+3070&qid=1641577416&sprefix=cuk+mantis+%2Caps%2C111&sr=8-2

exact pc i have

[worn idol]

I ordered all my parts without telling my parents and they yelled at me

[naive slate]

well i plan on upgrading my pc once the rtx 4000 series comes out

[errant fiber]

good luck

[worn idol]

Those fans only have green

[naive slate]

yeah

no other colors

[errant fiber]

rip

new fans

[naive slate]

alright is that the problem
?

[worn idol]

You can buy different fans and sell the green ones if you want

[naive slate]

how much could i sell em for

[ocean garnet]

So getting parts from a friend 3 years ago by doing a trade with which was a motherboard, CPU and graphics card and recently it has been hard to find them on PC builders to see if my parts would work together.

I don't know what to do since it feels I'm back to square one again, I already have a case it's the newest thing I got, but everything else is old. What should I do?

[errant fiber]

you'd probably get nothing

not worth

[naive slate]

i might sell them for future builds

[naive slate]

go to the pc builder online and put in ur specs that u have

itll tell u if its compatible

[ocean garnet]

I did

[naive slate]

https://pcpartpicker.com

[ocean garnet]

But it says can't find the item

[naive slate]

uh

take it to a proffessional

[ocean garnet]

Oh I can tell it's gonna be one hell of a ride

[fossil cedar]

What parts do you have?

[mossy venture]

Is it your money?

[worn idol]

Yes

[mossy venture]

Ah

[strong raft]

[mossy venture]

Shouldn't matter then, my parents are the same way though

[worn idol]

They also got mad when I owned 3 cars

[strong raft]

You have weird parents. Mine would've been happy I had the money

[mossy venture]

Maybe not then

[fossil cedar]

Wait your parents are judging you when you clearly have a job and live out of their house lol?

[worn idol]

No I live in their house

[potent portal]

No they're mad you spent money on a pc and didn't give it to them

[worn idol]

I don't pay rent so that's why

[strong raft]

I'm not surprised now then. Learn about a mortgage & you'll start to understand how they might feel

[potent portal]

Classic parent move. "You should save and be responsible with your money so you can move out faster", but these days that doesn't apply nearly as much with so little housing available at prices affordable by low wage workers.

[worn idol]

I pay for their internet and streaming services and kitchen appliances

[fossil cedar]

Well then that makes more sense honestly why have 3 cars and stuff when still living with your parents

[ocean garnet]

One sec I'll send the parts

[worn idol]

I like cars

[fossil cedar]

But 3

[potent portal]

And computers apparently lol

Nothing wrong with that

[worn idol]

I also have 3 computers

2 were free though

[strong raft]

You'd win major points if you started paying rent even if it just $200/mo & slowly increase each month or 2. Just a future idea

[fossil cedar]

Or just saving the money on cars and pcs for a bit til you can move out at least imo

Cars especially, expensive yokes

[worn idol]

I sold one of the cars

For $500

Also it was my parents idea for me to by the last 2 cars

[strong raft]

If it was my town, moving out would be into an RV. Housing is a long wait and/or really expensive. Why I have roommates.

[fossil cedar]

Ironic

[fossil cedar]

Oof that's fair but who said you gotta stay in your town?

[upper rock]

any notable difference between these 2 monitors?
Dell P2721Q vs Dell U2720Q

[strong raft]

Many nearby towns are no different, and that would remove the 2mile commute or require new job . Housing is like the gpu market

[fossil cedar]

Not to be that guy but a 2 mile commute is miniscule lol

[strong raft]

Exactly. I meant keeping this job in another town wouldn't be the same 2mi commute lol

[topaz kestrel]

I travel 2 hours a day to get to college lol

@strong raft how dare u poop me

[fossil cedar]

Exactly, 2hrs a day is yikes but something like a 1hr commute is fine

[topaz kestrel]

I wouldn’t mind living in an RV

[strong raft]

Say that w/o good internet

[gloomy pivot]

question: planning on helping my nephew build a pc (would like to be at $1,000 or under, i know, kind of tough) whats your opinions on CPU selection? i'm considering Ryzen 5 3600 or the 5600x. or should i look at intel? he wants to get into basic gameplay/video editing. but i'm sure he'd want to game a bit too and possibly stream. any suggestions?

[topaz kestrel]

My wifi is bad lol

[topaz kestrel]

1k isn’t tough lol

[strong raft]

If gaming was higher priority I'd say 11400 or 12400. Pato will pitch in soon enough

[topaz kestrel]

1k is pretty decent tbh

[gloomy pivot]

i get that, but when you're trying to keep costs down (especially with some current pricing) for a 16 year old....1k is expensive

[strong raft]

I think my 11600k build was $950ish. I should add it up.

[topaz kestrel]

I’m 16 lol

[gloomy pivot]

lol fair enough

[topaz kestrel]

Wait until b660 are fully released and then think about it imo

[gloomy pivot]

when are those boards expected?

[strong raft]

11400 + ram + mobo = $300ish. That's just an example to start. Gpu is the "golden" part.

[topaz kestrel]

No idea homie, they’re not out to public yet apart from prebuilt

To my knowledge*

Though I don’t have a lot of that

[fossil cedar]

Ryzen 5 3600 is a terrible choice in 2022, very overpriced, best bet for 1k budget is actually buying a prebuilt with the state of the graphics card market, you're in the us yeah?

[fossil cedar]

Intel is actually the budget option atm

[topaz kestrel]

Isn’t that 1660 hp prebuilt not meant to be that bad? Prolly gotta change a few parts like ram and cooler tho

[gloomy pivot]

yeah, US. hoping to get him either a 3050 or 3060

[topaz kestrel]

I doubt they need a 3060 just sayin

If they’re doing basic editing and gaming/streaming you can do that on lower end cards

Prolly best until pato sends a prebuilt link

[fossil cedar]

3050 is looking to be worse than a 1660 super/2060 so I'd aim for one of those instead, the only way you'd be able to fit a 3060 in that budget would be you get extremely lucky and get one for less than 450$

@gloomy pivot
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali587/p/N82E16883360222 your best option

Case is meh but yeah apart from that pretty good

[gloomy pivot]

cool. appreciate all the help. i built my first pc in october of 2020. 16gb ram, x570 mobo, ryzen 5 3600 (quickly upgraded to 5600x) and an aorus RTX 3070. so idk how much the market has changed since then.

[fossil cedar]

Yeah market is always changing

[gloomy pivot]

i know i'd like to get him at least 16gb of ram though. and try to future proof his graphics card as best as possible

[fossil cedar]

This is what you're looking for ^

[mossy venture]

whats the price on them

[gloomy pivot]

that build comes out to be more than my original pcpartpicker build i did for him. (granted i'd have to finagle his windows)

[topaz kestrel]

16gb of ram is like £50 nowadays lol

[gloomy pivot]

oh i know.

[fossil cedar]

I mean feel free to send the pc part picker but the problem is finding a graphics card that good for good enough price, could be waiting months or longer

[gloomy pivot]

yeah i feel ya on that.

[mossy venture]

also quality of some parts could be worse

[gloomy pivot]

i know its tough to snag them, but i had really good luck during the initial months of the 3070 and 3080

managed to pick up (5) 3070s and (1) 3080 for mine and some friends builds somehow by using inventory trackers.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HWymdD current pcpartpicker list (obviously missing a gpu)

[fossil cedar]

If you want to try that route it's up to you

[mossy venture]

3600 isnt smart to buy anymore

go for a 10400 or 11400

with a b560

[gloomy pivot]

i've got time to figure out his part list yet. he's gotta save up money first

but i'll definitely look into the intel build.

[ocean garnet]

@fossil cedar

Motherboard is MSI 990FXA gaming, graphics card MSI Radeon Rx gaming X BG and CPU still trying to find out what it is still

[fossil cedar]

I'd change basically every thing hold on

[mossy venture]

3600 loses to 10400

and is more expensive

[gloomy pivot]

good to know

[topaz kestrel]

My 11400 thrashes anything I throw at it

[mossy venture]

11400 im pretty sure beats 3700x

dont quote me on that

not in multi core

[gloomy pivot]

i was probably looking more so at the 3600 because thats what i've built so far. and if i recall it handles multi-processing better. but i'm sure i'm just overlooking/overanalyzing things

[topaz kestrel]

It’s also quite a bit cheaper lol

[ocean garnet]

@fossil cedar CPU is AMD FX-9590 Octa-core (8 Core)

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/92VmP6/intel-core-i5-11400-26-ghz-6-core-processor-bx8070811400

[gloomy pivot]

do you know if that comes with a stock cooler?

[mossy venture]

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600-vs-Intel-Core-i5-11400/3481vs4233

[topaz kestrel]

Yes but I’d get a cheap tower cooler

That’s what I did

[mossy venture]

i think the stock cooler on it is less than par, but you could go for an 11400f or 10400/f and still have better performance/value, and get a heatsink and still be cheaper than a 3600 msrp

[jagged ember]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LYdHTSQxdCM

[mossy venture]

not to mention its impossible to find a 3600 at msrp anymore new

because its a non current cpu

youd have to buy used, which would be find

[jagged ember]

11400 is your best bet right now price wise

[mossy venture]

you can find one for 150 used

[topaz kestrel]

@gloomy pivot the stock cooler works but it’s best to get a cheap tower cooler

[gloomy pivot]

cool. this is all great info. thank you all

[fossil cedar]

@gloomy pivot
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/skYNLP

[fossil cedar]

Ohh well if they don't have the money you can only try guestimate what parts to use as prices etc will change

[topaz kestrel]

@gloomy pivot even something crappy like the one I’m using keeps it under 60c all core in prime 95

[gloomy pivot]

right, but its easier for him to get his parents approval if he has an approximate price breakdown. plus i can save him a little money by selling him my parts and upgrading some of my stuff lol

[fossil cedar]

Should be fine

[topaz kestrel]

Like how you sent me a list and then 2 weeks later I got a sudden burst of money lol

[gloomy pivot]

for the video card, i'd probably try to find something less expensive. (i know the market is trash right now though)

[fossil cedar]

Right well i mean total is gonna be the same 🤷‍♂️

[fossil cedar]

I thought they had a 1k budget?

[topaz kestrel]

@gloomy pivot my 1070 can play all games that I play at 60+FPS on max like rust etc

[gloomy pivot]

more like $1k max.

[topaz kestrel]

1k around but doesn’t want to spend all if possible

[gloomy pivot]

this exactly

[topaz kestrel]

@gloomy pivot go for something like I have, in my bio, if you can find all us parts for under 1k

[ocean garnet]

@fossil cedar okay cool

[topaz kestrel]

Change case etc if you don’t wanna cheap out

[gloomy pivot]

i'll check it out, thank you

[topaz kestrel]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/boiledgoose/saved/#view=hXc899

Idk if it’s private but that should work

[gloomy pivot]

it works

[topaz kestrel]

Ignore the extensions etc

I just wanted them cus they’re pretty

Lol

[gloomy pivot]

i had some on my build and got fed up with them lol

[fossil cedar]

Well then the cheapest gpu i would include would be the rx 6600( new that is) gtx 1070/2060 super/1080 would also be decent options but obviously for less money

[gloomy pivot]

i have the same memory in my build. probably gonna sell him mine for $40 and bump myself up to 32gb

[fossil cedar]

Fair that would save like 10$ yeah

[topaz kestrel]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-6600-rx-6600-armor-8g-v1/p/N82E16814137696

Idk if it’s in stock or if it’s good price

But it was in tech deals a few days ago

Yesterday*

[gloomy pivot]

looks like it is in stock

2060 was my original plan for him

[mossy venture]

its overpriced

[fossil cedar]

That price is garbage

[mossy venture]

i would barely pay that for a 6600xt

[topaz kestrel]

I’m not from the us so it says out of stock or it’s overpriced as heck cus tax and shipping

[mossy venture]

6600 is i think 2060 performance

[gloomy pivot]

well, i appreciate all the help guys. i gotta run to the store before i get my kid from school

[topaz kestrel]

Adios compadre

[still bay]

heyo

[long rock]

I need my P500A dang it

Cmon febuary

[supple sundial]

I need help building a 1000 US dollor computer

[stoic island]

What do you need?

[sick tree]

anyone know when there bringing back the abs master gaming pc

[supple sundial]

I need a computer that can do basic gaming

Just the computer with no other peripherals

[ancient helm]

what would the absolute best pc build be?

[ancient helm]

1000$ isn’t a lot for a pc :/

[sick tree]

you can find tho

really good prices

but they are out of stock rn

[ancient helm]

1000$ pc with all parts on msrp that’d be a good pc lol

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/skYNLP
If you want to tryyy get a GPU I'd do this
Or you could get this
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali600/p/N82E16883360235
I'd do this if you don't mind open box though
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala218-master/p/N82E16883102989R

[fossil cedar]

@sick tree this applies to you too

[ancient helm]

just ordered a sick ass pc

[sick tree]

ok

[ancient helm]

6000 mhz ram kinda nice

[sick tree]

jesus that discount

thats insane

[ancient helm]

ngl prebuilts kinda cheaper than building from scratch

lol

[fossil cedar]

Ddr5 overpriced

[sick tree]

@fossil cedar i want intel tho

[ancient helm]

ikr

[fossil cedar]

Doesn't matter

[sick tree]

intel is better

[ancient helm]

yee

[sick tree]

yk i want good stuff

[fossil cedar]

No,

[sick tree]

very yes

[fossil cedar]

Lol no

Amd beats intel sometimes. intel beats amd sometimes

[ancient helm]

i5 11600k is a prime example

[fossil cedar]

Compared to what amd cpu tho lol?

[sick tree]

i found the one

CPU: Intel Core i5-11400F 2.6GHz (4.4GHz Turbo) 6-Core 12-Thread
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (Brand May Vary)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B560
RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3000Mhz
SSD: 512GB Intel 670P M.2 NVMe SSD
CPU Cooler: RGB CPU Cooler
PSU: 550W Gold
Case: DEEPCOOL MATREXX 50
Operating System: Windows 10 Home
Free Upgrade to Windows 11* (when available, see below)
Dimension: 18.90" x 8.27" x 17.32"
WiFi: Yes
Bluetooth: Yes
VR Ready: Yes

ez

[fossil cedar]

Lol but it's more money alright enjoy wasting your money

[sick tree]

guess what is 1,050

[little osprey]

Meh. decent enough of a price

Lots of low end parts/specs

[stoic island]

That's one of the ones pato linked but anyways

[fossil cedar]

Yeah okay if you don't wanna buy open box sure but the 3600 will perform within like 5% of the 11400

[fossil cedar]

Yeah that too lmao

[little osprey]

3000mhz meh

works i guess

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but 3600 2060 for under 900

[fossil cedar]

3000 vs 3200 is pretty minimal tbf

[little osprey]

Oh. that would be a better buy

[stoic island]

open box tho tbf

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but i literally said if you don't mind open box in the message, also i think open box is worth like 200$ savings

[stoic island]

I'm responding to cameron saying better buy than the 11400 build, but yea

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

Imo it's better even tho open box

[stoic island]

its 2 different options imo

one if you're fine with open box, one if you're not

[fossil cedar]

Yeah usually give 1 not open box if it's possible in budget

[stoic island]

yeye, 2 options for the buyer

[fossil cedar]

But buying the non open box just cuz intel is dumb if you don't mind open box

[mossy venture]

11600k performs the same as 5600x

[fossil cedar]

And required more spensive mobo lol

[vocal sierra]

Did I waste money going threadripper?

[mossy venture]

what do you do with your pc

and what threadripper did you buy?

[fossil cedar]

Depends what you do yeah

If you only game 1000000000000000000000%

[mossy venture]

if you game, then pretty much every threadripper loses to like a 3600 in gaming

[vocal sierra]

1950x with intentions on half gaming half structural engineering and blender

[mossy venture]

how much did that cost you?

and i dont think 50x cpus are threadrippers, unless 1000 series was different

i wasnt into tech when it was mainstream

[fossil cedar]

Depends when you bought it and if you needed the pcie lanes and how much it costed

[fossil cedar]

1950x was

[mossy venture]

ah

[vocal sierra]

200 for the cpu from a friend

Barely spent 1k on everything except graphics card

[mossy venture]

what 200$ can get you now vs your cpu

new

more like 180$

but thats single core

[fossil cedar]

When did you buy it tho?

And if it was recently yeah.....

[vocal sierra]

4 months ago? I've been getting parts here and there

[fossil cedar]

That's horrible

If you can return the parts

Also yeah your friend did you a bit dirty

[vocal sierra]

Aw man

[ancient helm]

yes

[supple sundial]

is this a decent build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gdQd8J

[desert gulch]

What gpu would you be planning to put in this system in the future?

I'd def change Mobo, cooler, ram tho

And ssd

[supple sundial]

I'm building for a friend.

his budget is 1000 dollors

[desert gulch]

Right but does he plan on adding a gpu down the line?

[supple sundial]

I do not know

[desert gulch]

Because unless he's planning a 3090ti or something, there isn't much need for a 850w

Bitfenix 750 is like 60 bucks and just as good quality

You just won't get modularity or white sleeved cables

[supple sundial]

I put a 850w power supply just in case if he dose in the future

[desert gulch]

I'd ask your friend tho what he plans on doing to the system in the future

Because if he doesn't plan on throwing a dgpu in, may as well get a prebuilt with a dgpu

[fringe iris]

Where do i go to see the monitor recommendations? I dont see any under peripherals for a while

[desert gulch]

Uhhh ask us

G24f if 1080

[fringe iris]

Are there any 4k monitors with high refresh rate under $800?

[desert gulch]

Oh dang, @stoic island you can answer this

I'm not well versed with that high end of monitors

[fringe iris]

But honestly anything you recommend too ill check out too

I prefer that but im okay with other things.. mostly looking for hdr and higher than 120 hz refresh

Also is 1440 a big difference than 1080?

[stoic island]

m27q g241 standard reccomendations

What gpu do you have

[fringe iris]

Rx5600xt.. i plan on upgrading to a 3000 series nvidia

[stoic island]

Do 1080p unless you're buying a better gpu rn

[desert gulch]

G24f is also a great 1080p option

[stoic island]

g24f when on sale good

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[fringe iris]

Ahh what brand is that?

[desert gulch]

Gigabyte

[fringe iris]

Gotcha

Any curved monitors come to mind by any chance?

GTEK F2740C 27-Inch Curved Frameless Gaming Monitor Full HD 1920 x 1080P, 1800R, VA 1ms, 240Hz, FreeSync, Speakers, DisplayPort/HDMI/Type-C, VESA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B095W1ZRYZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_XSGJRCS5WX18XBGY7BM2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Hows this one?

[strong raft]

M27u m32u. 4k tanks fps so, eh. M27Q is the go-to around here. Not like 1080p is bad either, cheaper and gives higher fps. I'd take 2x1080 over a single 1440p setup

[wicked frigate]

Guys what’s the recommended psu wattage for 3060

[potent portal]

It doesn't use that much. A 550W psu could handle it with a little room for overclocking, 650W if you want to be super safe

That's assuming a 100W+ processor. If less like 65W, 550W is plenty

[wicked frigate]

I need a build for streaming and gaming

For like 1200

[potent portal]

Do you have the gpu already? If not prebuilt might be the way to go

[wicked frigate]

Yah

My fired has a 1050

Or he might get the 3050

[stiff hatch]

Quick question, what's the smallest mATX case I can get that will fit a 240 rad?

[potent portal]

Smallest in what dimension? Height, length, width, or overall?

[wicked frigate]

@potent portal if your free is there a way u can build a pc list for liek 1500

[stiff hatch]

Like overall, I could take a higher height to compensate for a smaller width

[potent portal]

Yeah let me get to my pc, I'm mobile rn

[wicked frigate]

Ok thx

[worn wave]

The actual smallest mATX case that will fit a 240mm rad is very expensive

https://www.sliger.com/products/cases/cerberus/

[potent portal]

See if the nr200p fits your needs

[stiff hatch]

Great, thank you both for your help.

[fringe iris]

Why would someone want green switches on a keyboard, like are switches only for sound/clickiness?

[worn wave]

Not at all

Switches are for comfort, feel, personal preference

Many people do buy certain ones for the sound but feel and comfort is super important also

[fringe iris]

I had gotten a keyboard before i knew anything about pc building, i still know NOTHING about switches.. i like the feel but the clicking is more annoying than I originally thought

What switch do you think would be best

[worn wave]

No switch is the best

[fringe iris]

I want clicky but not REALLY loud clicky

I like the feel of green but hate the loud clicks.. is there a switch similar to green but less loud

[potent portal]

For a budget build that can still perform well, you can do this plus whatever gpu you can find. This will work for up to a 3070/6700XT.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Xjnmk

If there's any specific needs like more storage lmk

[desert gulch]

Cxm known to coil whine btw

For that same price you can get a bitfenix 750

[wooden spoke]

Recently bought this pc. I am trying to get the deep cool cf120 fans to show up in the rgb fusion 2.0 app currently the only way to control the rgb of the intake and exhaust fans is to use the button on the top of the case. Any suggestions on what to do? I have a connector that came with the pc that has controls on it for the fans but not sure if that has anything to do with it. https://www.newegg.ca/abs-ali597/p/N82E16883360232?Item=N82E16883360232

[south cliff]

hey my friend that had the alienware pc got it fixed and when he went into a game random pixels on his monitor started showing and i told him to update his gpu driver since they were outdated and i told him to restart it and now his screen is black and his keyboared and mouse are not turning on.What is the problem

[potent portal]

Did it come with a gigabyte motherboard? RGB fusion only works with that brand

[wooden spoke]

yup, gigabyte b560 ds3h ac Y1

I was able to get my new corsair ram, the cpu cooler fan, and the gpu light working with rgb fusion just not the external fans

[jagged ember]

fans might not be addressable

[potent portal]

Ok, check the manual for where the rgb connectors are and see if anything is plugged into them

[wooden spoke]

Ok give me a sec

heres the fans I have

[south cliff]

hey my friend that had the alienware pc got it fixed and when he went into a game random pixels on his monitor started showing and i told him to update his gpu driver since they were outdated and i told him to restart it and now his screen is black and his keyboared and mouse are not turning on.What could be the problem?

[potent portal]

CF120, I see the link

[wooden spoke]

ok

trying to find where the rgb connectors are on the motherboard, sorry new to computers and appreciate your help

[potent portal]

They're addressable for sure but still make sure them or the hub are connected to the board

Ok I'll look too

[wooden spoke]

I found the sys fan connectors on the mb

[potent portal]

You've got one addressable and one standard rgb connector at the top right

If your cpu fan took the argb (3 pin) then the fans are not connected to the board

See if the controller they're on has a connector for the board. If there's an open slot you can plug the cpu fan into the controller and the controller into the board to control all of them.

If there's no open slot or no motherboard connector, you might need to get another hub

[wooden spoke]

You referring to the D_LED1 and LED C1 ports?

[potent portal]

Those are the ones yes

C1 is a 4 pin rgb, which is not compatible with 3 pin

[wooden spoke]

The D_LED1 port is a 3 prong port and has nothing connected to it, the LED_C1 port does have something connected to it

[potent portal]

Is it your cpu fan that's on C1?

[wooden spoke]

I would imagine so, it goes beyond the case at the back

Might need to take off the back cover of the case to take a better look

[little osprey]

I missing that weird cable but idk how to find it lol it's argb cable but other side is just 2pin connector

[wooden spoke]

Got a bunch of cables that came in the box

[wooden spoke]

Can confirm it is my cpu fan that is connected to the C1 port

[potent portal]

Ok, the case fans are not connected to the board then. Is there a way to connect the controller to the board? Maybe one of those spare cables

[wooden spoke]

Ok, what do you mean by controller

[potent portal]

Here's that link you tried to put
https://youtu.be/IPh-NLys_xU

[wooden spoke]

Yup

Also, if I get it connected, could I use the asus or icue software instead of the Rgb fusion?

[potent portal]

The controller (aka hub) is what the rgb on the fans are connected to right now

[wooden spoke]

Ohh ok, it’s the thing on the back at the top that has a rectangle shape with 3 cords coming out of it

[potent portal]

Icue maybe but idr if it requires a corsair product to work

[wooden spoke]

Ok, I can figure that out after too

[potent portal]

You could use something open source like signalrgb or openrgb

[wooden spoke]

Gotcha

The cf120c fans I have say 12v on them, however the connector has a 5v slot on it

A 5V D0V

[potent portal]

Probably 12v dc for the fan itself, and 5v for the rgb

[wooden spoke]

Ok

So the next step is to find a way to connect the controller (hub) to the D_LED1 port on the motherboard?

[potent portal]

Yes

[wooden spoke]

This has helped me narrow down the issue

There’s also a sticker at the bottom of the case that’s wrapped around a cord that says “unplug the connector if you use the motherboard to control the lighting

The cord is a SATA 5V cord that the stickers connected to

[potent portal]

Yeah that'll be for extra power, which isn't necessary unless you have more than 4 rgb fans to connect to one header

[wooden spoke]

Ok

[frozen oyster]

I just got my ABS Gladiator prebuilt, and the case fans are either on or off, not controlled by temperature. Is there a way to change this?

it’s somewhat triggering my tinnitus

[potent portal]

Switch the fans to dc mode in bios instead of pwm

While you're in there enable xmp (docp on asus)

[frozen oyster]

XMP 1 or 2

[potent portal]

Whichever is higher, often 2

[frozen oyster]

Ok. I’ll do that here in a second when I finish downloading a game

[fringe iris]

When you enter a newegg shuffle for like 3000 series.. do you have the option of making payments or you have to buy outright? Im a little confused

[potent portal]

You have whatever options you normally have in newegg checkout. When you win it's just added to your cart.

[fringe iris]

Ooohhhhh thanks i am new to this so I appreciate that.. i didnt know id youd have to hurry up and buy it

[obsidian wigeon]

gotta buy in 24 hours tho

over that you're losing that chance

[strong raft]

Newegg usually allows paypal, so you can likely do the pay in 4 deal or some normal monthly plan.

[fringe iris]

Ohh nice

Gotcha.. didnt know that..

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[jagged ember]

gotta be fast

[potent portal]

Is it 24 hours now? I thought it was 4

Been a bit since I entered

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah, i think so

[little osprey]

It's 2 hours actually...

After 2 hours unclaimed items reshuffling

[wooden spoke]

I found a cord that has the argb end to it in the box of cords that came with the pc

The two ends of it are connected to a vdg

[frozen oyster]

Did so, and I can’t get the fans to do a gradual ramp up, it’s either off or 60%+

[potent portal]

What fans are they and what motherboard?

[frozen oyster]

ROG STRIX Z590-E and idk what fans

[frozen oyster]

the fans that come in the Rosewill SPECTRA D100 Case

[potent portal]

It's hard to tell but does that come with a fan hub?

[frozen oyster]

not sure. never opened the back

[potent portal]

The manual says nothing about one but I see what looks like one in pics

[frozen oyster]

i can open the back and check

[potent portal]

If there's a hub make sure only the motherboard connector is plugged in and not additional molex/sata power

[potent portal]

Yup that's a hub alright

[frozen oyster]

No sata or molex

[potent portal]

The one that says power, trace that cable and see where it goes

[frozen oyster]

It goes into molex

[potent portal]

Ok, try without that molex connected. The motherboard should be able to handle 4-6 fans per header on its own.

More if they're the new 2A headers

[frozen oyster]

So, turn off the computer and have it rely on the tiny 2 pin power thing?

[potent portal]

It's only 2 pins on the mb connector? Hmm. And that's plugged into the board chassis fan connector right?

[frozen oyster]

I think so

[potent portal]

If it's only the 2 pins I'm thinking that's just pwm and tachometer and the power is needed in that case.

Also switching that header to pwm is probably smart

[frozen oyster]

No

It’s connected to something in the front panel

[potent portal]

Ah, maybe there's a knob or button used for fan speed?

[frozen oyster]

Only reset and LED

[potent portal]

That really should be connected to the board. Reset is often wired as the rgb pattern change button.

What's the connector plugged into the hub mb port say on it? Might need to pull it off to read it

[frozen oyster]

Should I just invest in some fans then?

[potent portal]

No by this point I'm 90% convinced there's a wiring error. Worst case the hub is bad.

[frozen oyster]

I have no clue how to take the front panel off to view it

[potent portal]

You don't need to. Just the plug that's in the fan hub mb port. The writing on it will tell us what they plugged it into.

[frozen oyster]

Below the gpu there’s nothing plugged into the case fan headers

[potent portal]

I've seen a few cases on my Google search where they plugged the status led in instead of the reset switch so other errors are possible

I'm looking at this

It looks like the reset sw plug which is incorrect. Pull it out a little and see

[earnest olive]

i had a case where reset and power got switched

[frozen oyster]

Do I need to turn off the computer first?

[potent portal]

This would be a case of the pwm/tach being switched with the reset lol

[earnest olive]

thought the case was just bad cause i could short the power pins to turn on the pc manually but power button didnt work

[potent portal]

Yes have it off

[earnest olive]

just tried pressing reset button randomly and was very surprised when it turned on lol

no problems after switching the jumpers, power button worked fine

sometimes it's just the smallest things that you don't expect

[frozen oyster]

@potent portal you free to vc and guide me thru?

[strong raft]

1 cool thing about most Gigabyte mobos is the power button right on the mobo 🤘

[strong raft]

This deffo doesn't seem correct, agreed

[potent portal]

I don't do vc and my wife is sleeping next to me

[frozen oyster]

Ah ok

So what exactly do you want me to do

[potent portal]

That little cable with the +- on it, just pull it out a little to see what it says.

My hunch is it says reset sw

[frozen oyster]

“LED SW”

[potent portal]

Even better lmao

There's your problem

[frozen oyster]

?

[strong raft]

so the front power led is powered by the hub, lol.

[earnest olive]

maybe for higher end boards

[frozen oyster]

What do I do?

[potent portal]

Even better, the fan speed is being controlled by the led

[earnest olive]

that's a common feature on high end boards but you won't see that on midrange/low end boards from any brand

power buttons aren't even a standard feature on a lot of $200+ boards

[strong raft]

I guess my near decade old z77x-ud3H is semi-high-end? haha

[earnest olive]

i have an asus z87-k that doesn't have one and an asus z87 strix maximus hero that has one

[frozen oyster]

How do I make it so I can adjust the speeds?

[potent portal]

There's usually a bunch of cables that come with the pc right? Look for one that has a fan header on one end that can plug in where that led sw cable is now.

[frozen oyster]

Lemme check the stuff in my boxes

[earnest olive]

looks like a pretty high end board for its time

pretty sure it would make light work of a 3770K

[strong raft]

I think the only 1 higher was like the ud5h or something with a slightly better vrm heatsink setup. Funny thing is it was probably only $150 max

[earnest olive]

prices do be going up

[frozen oyster]

There’s no 2-pin things in the cables given

[potent portal]

Nothing that looks like a 3/4 pin fan header on one end?

[earnest olive]

found a $450 mobo with no power button

[strong raft]

this is the ud5H . both could* do ddr 3 at 2800ish.

[strong raft]

this one I think

[frozen oyster]

Top or bottom

[strong raft]

middle pic

[frozen oyster]

I’m going to need a step by step walkthrough of how to do this

[earnest olive]

ddr3-2800 on ivy bridge seems unlikely

[potent portal]

Nah that's rgb

[earnest olive]

i can't boot above 2400 on my haswell

[strong raft]

oops

[strong raft]

yep, that's why it says "oc".

[frozen oyster]

I have the molex one

[earnest olive]

fair

what do you run?

[potent portal]

Or

[frozen oyster]

I don’t have those.

[potent portal]

Ok. I'd contact newegg and get them to send you either a replacement cable for the missing one or a new hub.

[frozen oyster]

It may be in the mobo

[strong raft]

Just kHX1866 at cl10, wimpy I know. got the 1st 16GB a long time ago then a year or so ago found another 16GB kit for $40 so I figured why not

[potent portal]

Possible, worth looking

[frozen oyster]

If it is it would be under the radiator

[strong raft]

which mobo?

[frozen oyster]

Z590-E

[earnest olive]

tried tightening timings? 👀

[frozen oyster]

Found it

It’s under the cpu but it’s a 3 pin

[strong raft]

not really . I was gonna try to get a "cheap" 3770K to mess with also.

After new rig I can go crazy w/ this one, or I could try some suggested stuff.

[frozen oyster]

What do you want me to do?

None of the fans are plugged into any cassis port and are instead plugged into a front panel IO

Chassis fan 2 and 3 are empty, and 1 has the radiator fan

[strong raft]

3 pin under cpu, a cable or a header like these? My mind got a bit boggled

[frozen oyster]

That’s the CPU pins. And I can’t get to them since they’re under a radiator

[strong raft]

idk, but i'd think that hub to mobo connection can go to almost any normal fan header. I'm not too familiar w/ using a fan hub though.

[frozen oyster]

The rosewill fans use a 5 pin connector

[strong raft]

lol darn, I feel like the specific needed cable is missing.

[frozen oyster]

At the top I see one thing plugged in

A 4 pin

Next to the cpu fan socket

That’s the one that’s plugged into the hub

[strong raft]

I'm perplexed.

[frozen oyster]

I changed it back to PWM on the bios and I have the option to set the speed to 0

But they’re a bit louder now

[frozen oyster]

the fans also may be min speed capped

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[frank stirrup]

[strong raft]

I wish there was an M24F if you get me. Dual monitors w/ 1 as a spankin new 144/165Hz hoopty will be a good start.

[fossil cedar]

There's g24f

[strong raft]

adds to wishlist - Pretty recent production, good option. Most of NE reviews are fine. The backlight bleed seems average anyways for 1 person

[mossy venture]

Are there monitors that look the same bit would have different refresh rate, for people that like a matching set up?

Idc about how mine looks because it's kinda just whatever I have, but it'd be cool to be able to have three matching monitors without having to spend the price of a gaming monitor on all three

Asking out of curiosity, not planning on buying

[fossil cedar]

If you want real monitor reviews look at rtings

[fossil cedar]

I mean you could probably find similar bezel sizes and stuff?

[mossy venture]

thought so

[strong raft]

Two 75Hz options from NE. Don't seem to save all that much unless I'm missing a bunch. My lcd was $130ish, but a few years ago.

[mossy venture]

my 1440p 75hz was 120 used

[strong raft]

From my quick search, that ASUS is the lowest priced lcd NE has that's at least 1080p/24". We could always (possibly) remove the stock stands and get a $35ish dual arm stand of some sort. Of course r/hardwareswap or something opens up many more options. idk.

[sour dust]

Weird question. My friends have told me it’s not possible to tear a laptop apart and turn it into a tower PC. Is that true? Would I have to replace certain parts like the motherboard and the core to make that a reality? Or can I take the necessary parts needed and switch up the wiring to make what I want?

I’m just starting to get into PC building, and haven’t selected where I want to go with it

[mossy venture]

you would have to build a new pc

[fossil cedar]

You'd have to replace every part

[mossy venture]

the ram, motherboard, gpu are different, the cpu is soldered into the motherboard (in pretty much all recent laptops)

every part is different to work at a different level

[sour dust]

😧 oh well, back to the drawing board lol

[mossy venture]

whats your budget?

also whats your laptop?

[sour dust]

1500 starting. That’s the basic stuff w/o The graphics card is a whole different ballpark for that.

[sour dust]

2019 Dell G7 7590

[fossil cedar]

You in the us?

[mossy venture]

1500 is enough for a pc with a good gpu

if thats usd that is

[sour dust]

#usa

[fossil cedar]

Okay then you can get a 3060 ti/3070 prebuilt

[mossy venture]

if you go pre built you can get one of those ^^ for 1500

[sour dust]

That’s what I was looking at. That’s my goal rn, up to 2k on a flex moment depending on a couple personal things

LyteGaming is where I’m looking as of right now

[mossy venture]

ABS on newegg

[sour dust]

I’ll be honest, I hadn’t heard of NE until today. 30 minutes ago lol

But I’ll look when I wake up later today

[fossil cedar]

2k for monitor pc keeb and mouse?

[mossy venture]

pato will prolly find one for you

[sour dust]

I have a monitor, mouse, and other basic stuff like a headset already. Dual monitors with a 1660S

The built-in then a separate by HDMI

[sour dust]

1500-2k

[fossil cedar]

Ahh okay

[sour dust]

I love the Corsair stuff, it’s been super dependable and reliable for me

[mossy venture]

corsair ram

is a no

[fossil cedar]

If you don't mind open box
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali581-gladiator/p/N82E16883360216R?item=N82E16883360216R
If you don't want open box
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali554/p/N82E16883360184

[fossil cedar]

[mossy venture]

ABS on newegg is the only pre built company i trust that has reasonable prices

-someone who bought a non ABS build a while ago

and regretted it

[fossil cedar]

And as a brand corsair only really make some good stuff including some power supplies and some cases

[sour dust]

Open box is a huge plus imo, I work at Best Buy and I’ve had no issues at all with OB items

[fossil cedar]

Perfect, I'd get the open box model then

[sour dust]

RN, I have a mouse and headset. Great product for that

[fossil cedar]

I'd replace the cooler with a thermalright peerless assasin 120 but it's not 100% neeccesary

[sour dust]

I’d hardly know enough about that 😅
I only recently found interest in building and light streaming

[sour dust]

Also. Ty for this, this gives me a great starting point to start a search

[fossil cedar]

No problem

[fossil cedar]

It's just the cooler is a tad underpowered for the cpu shouldn't be major worry tho

[sour dust]

aaah okay. I deal with overheating daily with my laptop. The CPU fan is failing and my cooling stand isn’t keeping up. I’m going to have the system dusted and cleaned soon though. I’m hoping that helps. It’s an underpowered laptop, but it works for what I need it too.

I will say, the NE site is a… little busy 😅

Also. Ryzen v Intel. What’s better? I’ve been Intel as long as I can remember.

[mossy venture]

neither is better

[sour dust]

I’ve trusted my laptops to Intel power for as long as I can remember

[sour dust]

It’s literally just preference?

[mossy venture]

amd is just as good, and amd is probably going to lead the charge on laptops till next gen

because they just dropped 6000 series mobile processors

theyll definitely lead laptops that use integrated graphics

intels mobile chips are coming out soon for their current gen i believe

as for desktop

intel is currently better, because intel has much newer chips

[fossil cedar]

[mossy venture]

the last ryzen series was 2020 i believe

compared to current gen intel

[sour dust]

And Intel just dropped the 11 for tower, right?

[mossy venture]

12400 beats 5600x in both price and performance i believe

[mossy venture]

12th

[sour dust]

Damn

[mossy venture]

11th was early 2021

12th was november

[strong raft]

Intel's laptop 12th gen stuff is gonna be pretty good probably, so decent competition through 2022.

[sour dust]

And then there’s the X-Rated vers of the 12 series

[mossy venture]

not the igpus though

those are going to be the same as always

[fossil cedar]

11th gen was just ohh crap we need to release a gen, get 10th gen and make the i9 have 2 less cores

[mossy venture]

tho ig with nvidia bringing out 2050 and mx550/570 well see

[obsidian wigeon]

2050 looks good imo

[sour dust]

Damn, wish I could pull my laptop apart and build from that but oh well

[potent portal]

They've been teasing a way to accelerate their new dgpu line by having the igpu work too. Should be interesting.

[mossy venture]

Sounds like it yeah, I haven't seen anything on that

I wonder how that'll work

[mossy venture]

I'm going apu since I need a good battery life, otherwise I'd probably have just bought a 1650 laptop already

But I'll check out battery life on the 2050/mx laptops too, and compare performance

[obsidian wigeon]

i probably don't have a need for batt life myself

i just want max perf myself lel

[mossy venture]

I'm partially getting the laptop for school

[obsidian wigeon]

but the 680M is promising

especially since it could easily end up in laptops with usb pd

[mossy venture]

Pd?

[obsidian wigeon]

power delivery

[mossy venture]

And yeah I've been stalking the apu leaks, I've got 700$ to spend on one

Ahh

[obsidian wigeon]

you just charge and power the laptop with a smol usb pd brick

[mossy venture]

600$ is mining profits

[obsidian wigeon]

connects through usb c

[mossy venture]

Cool

Could easily store one in a backpack I'm assuming then

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

they're like not bigger than a phone's charger

ones that has like 65w or something charging

[mossy venture]

Do you think that dgpu laptops might have that too?

[obsidian wigeon]

but pretty compact compared to bricks

[mossy venture]

Like the 2050 laptops

[obsidian wigeon]

well yes, in the future

but not yet

[mossy venture]

Ah

Not enough charge?

[obsidian wigeon]

there's already 240w pd in spec

gotta wait for oems to use it

[mossy venture]

Got it

[potent portal]

Ah yes the not confusing at all new usb spec, usb 3.2 gen 2x2 type c revision 2.1

[frank stirrup]

still easier to understand than monitor names

[mossy venture]

And amd naming

5700xt 5700g 3600xt 5600xt 5600x

[frank stirrup]

amd naming is very easy tbh

[mossy venture]

When you know pcs it is

[fossil cedar]

No, monitor names don't change usb does appeantly

[frank stirrup]

look at intel naming

[mossy venture]

For someone who doesn't or is just getting into it it's confusing

[fossil cedar]

Also hdmi 2.1 means nothing now

[mossy venture]

Fair enough

11167g7 or whatever it is

[topaz kestrel]

Hdmi 2.1a 😳

[frank stirrup]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/processors/core/i7.html

[fossil cedar]

Worse, 6 core laptop i5 but 4c laptop i7

[frank stirrup]

12th gen i7s

[mossy venture]

The only mobile i7s I can remember are the 750s and 800s

And the jumble of random numbers g whatever

[frank stirrup]

i seem to have missed this

[mossy venture]

Isn't hdmi 2.1 worse than hdmi 2.0 or smthn?

I don't pay much attention to ports

[stoic island]

Nah, HDMI 2.1 should've been a good bit better, but they screwed up the branding

[gaunt cedar]

Hi guys so I got 2 LG 144hz monitor both are QHD, 27''(IPS) and a 32'', the 27'' got g sync but the 32'' doesnt support g-sync and I dont know which monitor i should use as a main one.

[mossy venture]

Whichever you prefer

[stoic island]

Both should be g sync compatible

[mossy venture]

Test both as your main

[gaunt cedar]

thats true i the only thing is it took abit of work to swap between the two because i hook them up wtih a monitor stance

[mossy venture]

Ah

[gaunt cedar]

sr is this a reply to my comment or someone above me?

[mossy venture]

To you

[gaunt cedar]

oh lovely